DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode – What You Guys Have To Say This Christmas

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

Your wild tales of rock ‘n’ roll animalism, UFOs, Christmas songs, SNL characters, Jay Z and Diddy, and so much more; we get way into your comments, your thoughts, and what makes your rock ‘n’... roll souls tick on this Christmas-week episode.Coming up, we're bringing you an episode on Hank Williams, who died on New Years Day in 1953, and Jake wants to know: Who are the songwriters and singers who can make you tear up, who cut you to the bone? Who gives you all the feels? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as:Episode 68 - Gram ParsonsEpisode 19 - GG AllinEpisode 127 and 128 - Willie NelsonVisit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch!Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTERFollow Jake and DISGRACELAND:InstagramYouTubeX (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Double Elvis. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When like young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
Starting point is 00:01:04 David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:01:27 or wherever you get your podcasts. Movies can make you feel, make you dream. Sometimes they even make you appreciate architecture. Is there anybody who's been hotter in a doorway than Elizabeth Taylor? That's the kind of analysis you'll find every week on Dear Movies I Love You, the new podcast from the Exactly Right Network. Every Tuesday, we break down the films we're crushing on, from blockbusters to deep cuts. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show of the party, after the party of the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking. Well, mainly you are talking. We get into a ton of your texts, voicemails, DMs, and more. On everything under the sun, your stories of rock and roll animalism, more on your favorite Christmas songs.
Starting point is 00:02:56 What's in the skies of New Jersey? your favorite S&L characters and more. And as always, a whole lot of rosy. All right, discos, let's get into it. Merry Christmas, happy holidays, happy Hanukkah. Wherever you are in the world, whatever you're doing, I hope you're enjoying some peace of mind
Starting point is 00:03:26 and I hope that there's some peace in your heart. I asked you guys last week for your stories of rock and roll animalism of stories that you've heard, stories you've been a part of that left an impression on you, stories that are so dramatic, that you can't put them down,
Starting point is 00:03:40 that you and your friends keep going back to you. I ask because this is our newfound mission here in disgrace, sand, to preserve the true spirit of rock and roll to try to keep this dying dodo bird of a genre alive in some way, whether it's Chuck Barry picking up hitchhikers after a gig or Gigi Allen's brother punching out a fan on stage. We want to know, we want to retell, and we want to document these stories.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Hey, Jake, this is Joe from the 503. Hey, big fan of your show. Keep up the good work. I wanted to tell you what my favorite rock legend is and that would be the one where Bill Kaufman, Grand Parsons manager, stole his dead body from LAX in a hearse and took it to Joshua Tree and cremated it.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's a pretty sweet story. Can't blame him for wanting to be cremated there and God bless Phil Kaufman. Looking forward to hearing more. and hope to hear a disgrace land just about Graham one of these days. Cheers. Joe, thanks for Colin. I played your voicemail because this is the perfect story to demonstrate the rock and roll animalism that I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And even though most of us, I think, are familiar with this story, it bears repeating because we're getting new listeners all the time. There's people who aren't as familiar with rock and roll lore as some of us might be. They're younger, whatever the case may be. They're interested. They're new to this space. And this story is one of the OG disgrace land stories. When I think about stories, it made me want to start disgrace land. This is one of them.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I first heard this story working on a loading dock in my high school years. Summers working for my old man, trying to make some extra cash, hating every minute of the work part, loving every minute of the bullshitting that went along with hanging out with the older guys on the crew who worked on the trucks. Occasionally, I too got to go on the trucks. and the stories that I heard were incredible. This was one of them told to me by a guy named Joe Allenby. People from the Boston music scene will know Joe.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Except in Joe's telling, Keith Richards was involved somehow. I'm not exactly sure. That's accurate. I don't know. Maybe people know something that I don't. Possibly behind the stolen body heist, though, I don't think so. Anyways, I'm fairly certain that Keith Richards part is not true. But, however, the story of Grand Parsons' body being stolen is absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I spoke with the man who did it, Phil Kaufman. He did indeed steal Grand Parsons' body. I can't remember how I got Phil's number, but I did, and I called him up when I was writing my book, and Phil was helpful, if not super crotchety. In this story, the Grand Parsons, Grand Theft Parsons, as the movie title goes, the Johnny Knoxville movie, this is a big part of my book. it's obviously a huge part of the disgrace land episode on grand parsons which if you haven't heard it you must it embodies what this show is about if you've never heard of grand parsons he basically
Starting point is 00:06:42 invented all country without giving it a name well he did give it a name but that's not what he called it he called it cosmic american music and he influenced the rolling stones in real time compelled them to make what i think is their greatest album possibly the greatest rock and roll album of all time exile on Main Street. So the story of Graham's body being stolen and brought out to Joshua Tree for a desert pirate funeral is 100% disgrace land. I thank you for the voicemail 503. And for anyone else who has not heard the Grand Parsons episode, go check that out. Even if you have heard it, go check it out. Listen to it again. It's, uh, I guarantee it's going to be better on second listening. Okay, Niall from the 505 called in and left the voicemail. Hey, Jake. This is Niall from the 505, Santa Fe into Mexico.
Starting point is 00:07:28 good job on everything as always. But I've always had a question about the gross out contest between Alice Cooper and Frank Zappa. But I'm not going to play Nile's voicemail because it's disgusting. All I have to say is that Nile, even though your rock and roll story is too gross to play, you might have convinced me to do an Alice Cooper episode. So a bit of a tease here. We brought up Alice Cooper. Someone brought up Alice Cooper last week.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I think I did actually. Yeah, I did. But I've gotten other voicemails, sorry, other DMs and text. This is the only voicemail. That's why I wanted to play it. But I did not want to go into the details. So guys, I guess Niles L's Cooper story is developing more on this as we go. All right, Gabe Setra on Instagram writes in, okay, I wanted to share my favorite rock and roll story back sometime around maybe 2007. I saw the murder junkies at a legendary Pittsburgh venue called 31st Street Pub. They were being fronted by Gigi's brother, Merle Allen. And in between songs, a 20-something kid kept yelling for Merle to punch him in the face. And Merle said, quote, your dad is probably a lawyer and you'll sue me for everything I have. But fuck it. I don't have shit. And then Merle proceeded to punch this kid full strength square. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Just under the eye with his hand and a fist wrapped around the microphone. Oh my gosh. The kid took it like a champ. His knees buckled a little, but his friends kept him on his feet. and he enjoyed the rest of the show from right in front of the stage with blood dripping down his face. It was punk a. F. Punk A.F.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And just dumb. Gabbar. Gabor. Sorry, I don't know if I'm pronouncing your Instagram handle correctly. I think it's Gabor because your name's Gabe. I never understood that aspect of punk rock. The self-imposed violence and destruction and, you know, spitting on each other and that whole, the whole G.
Starting point is 00:09:25 G.G. Allen's side of it. Oh, boy. Just, yeah, I mean, you want to talk about rock and roll animalism. Gigi Allen is on another level for sure. It's like he needs his own category completely. All right, five four one writes in, hey, Jay, Corre Valenzuela, and the 541 here. Been listening since 2020, right in the middle of the COVID lockdowns.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I found your podcast and have been hooked since. I backtracked and have now listened to the entire disgrace land series on Spotify and eagerly away each new episode and bonus episode like a fiend. Anyway, my rock star story. is that I opened for Kid Rock at the Roseland Theater in Portland, Oregon in October 2007. The local band that was supposed to open for Kid Rock dropped out in the last second, so they went down the line outside the building asking for volunteers. Me trying to impress my future wife, raised my hand,
Starting point is 00:10:18 and they asked without knowing that they would be asking me to sing a karaoke song to open for Kid Rock. I chose Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine, and completely fucking crushed it. I even had a mosh pit going during the fuck you, I won't do it. You tell me part. Talk about core memory. It also sealed the deal with my wife. She got a good glimpse at what I'm all about.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I could see her in the front row staring up at me with a look in her eyes and said, what am I getting myself into? Needless to say, one of the best nights in my life. Keep up the great work. And as always, rockerola and merry Christmas, which is confidentially also my 44th birthday. Jorge, happy birthday, buddy. I love this story. I hope your wife is still your wife.
Starting point is 00:10:58 wife. I hope you're not, you're not, you're not laying down a little, fuck you, I won't do it. You tell me at the holiday Christmas karaoke and alienating the old misses. Great story. Exactly what we're looking forward. Thank you, Jorge. Appreciate you. Jorge, just real, real quick, Jorge wanted to shout out his twin brothers, Nick and Derek. So Nick and Derek, if you're listening, your brother's thinking of you. Merry Christmas. Carrie Kennedy writes in, disgrace, manpot, at e-mail.com. She emailed this. Hey, Jake, really, entertained by the podcast and appreciate your storytelling came to disgrace land from the dead and gone podcast my mom was a massive willy nelson fan i've literally been going to willy concert since before i was born
Starting point is 00:11:39 uh in utero through the day i graduated from college i am convinced that part of what kept her fascinated was the rock and roll stories around willy nelson her favorite and now mine because i haven't heard it anywhere else, including disgrace land, is that Willie came home drunk and having been with a girlfriend and his wife sewed him into the sheets at the bed while he was passed out, packed up, and his wife left. Because of how much it fascinated my mom, I think it still has a hold on me this story. And I kind of don't care if it's true. It's a great story. Either way, rock a rolla rola, Carrie in Annapolis, Maryland, Carrie. What a fantastic story. This is incredible. And yes, you've never heard this story in Disgraceland. I, we have, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, two Willie Nelson episodes. And this story did not come across our desk. It's amazing. And yeah, even if it's not true, it's still amazing. I love it. Thanks, Carrie. Travis Carcher writes in, this is via email as well. Hey, Jake, first off, thoroughly enjoy the podcast. I love history. I love rock and roll and your show's perfect marriage of these two things, along with great storytime. I have quite a few rock and roll stories from my younger days back in the mid to late 80s. And one of my favorites was the time that I saw Motorhead open for Slayer at the Ocean Center in Daytona Beach, Florida. After the show, we customarily would go out to the tour buses to try to meet the bands. And I was around 16 at the time, and Lemmy from Motorhead happened to be standing outside the bus signing autographs.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And when we got our turn to meet him, we asked for a photo to which he exclaimed, of course, mates, and proceeded to grab both me and my friend in headlocks for the photo. It's one of the coolest interactions I've ever had with any rock star. that I've met to this day. I don't know what happened to this photo because it wasn't my camera, but I wish I had a copy of it. Travis, this is amazing. Appreciate this. And I'm reading this in part, not just because it's a great story, but also I saw the same tour, but up in Boston.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I was real young. My old man took me, and it was mind-blowing. I remember it was truly scary, all of it. And Overkill was the opening band. I don't know if it was on the leg of the tour that you saw. But Motorhead came out. They were opening for Slayer. and it was truly frightening.
Starting point is 00:13:53 They were truly frightening. I was in the sixth grade, I believe. And that was scary enough. And I was a motorhead fan, but I'd never seen anything like this. I'd been to concerts before, I'd been to huge stadium shows, never anything like this.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think I'd see Jimmy Page in the firm by this point. I might have seen ACDC by this point. This was another level. It was dangerous. It was scary. The crowd was dangerous. The crowd was scary. scary. The volume, the sound of this concert was the loudest, loudest thing I'd ever heard to that
Starting point is 00:14:25 point in my life. And then Slayer came on and everything was that much extra. I love Motorhead. I love Slayer, but it was horrifying in the best possible rock and roll way. What a freaking show. Travis, thanks for reminding me of it. I appreciate you. All right, guys, next week, we've got an episode on Hank Williams. Why? Well, aside from the fact that Hank is the greatest country songwriter of all time. Also one of the greatest songwriters period. Hank died right around New Year's Day, or on New Year's Day, excuse me, on New Year's. And next week, you know, we usher in the new year. So you're going to get some Hank Williams in your feed. And when you're listening to Hank and nursing your champagne hangover, be thinking about those sad songs, those songwriters whose words
Starting point is 00:15:11 in music make you tear up, who cut you to the bone, who get you all emotional. Who are the singers that bring you to tears like Hank Williams does to me. That's what I want to know. Which singers, which songwriters make you all emotional, give you all the feels, tear you up emotionally. Let me know. 617-906-66-6638. You can leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. You can hit me up to disgracelandpot at g-mail.com or at Disgracelam pod on Facebook, on X, on Instagram. All right. Of course, as always, keep the stories of rock and roll animalism coming. We've got a bunch more in here. I'll probably read more of them next week, but I want more from you guys. And tell me your story via text, voicemail. We'll get into it here in the after party and eventually
Starting point is 00:15:58 out in the real world as well and some fun and exciting ways that I'm still putting together. All right, I'll be back in a flash with more of your stories and some responses on your favorite Christmas tunes and your favorite SNL characters plus a teeny tiny little ditty JZ update. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:17:31 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Like he's about to attack me. Like making karate noises. And his entire, the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going. And the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. And I immediately know that. I've been a sleepwalk. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction
Starting point is 00:18:13 or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kimman broke up with Keith Durbin. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tanya Monjeu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Remember when you'd walk into your local video rental place and there were always those two employees behind the counter arguing about movies? Well, that's us. I'm Millie to Cherokee. And I'm Casey O'Brien. And now we're arguing about movies on our podcast, Dear Movies I Love You, from the Exactly Right Network.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Can I say something about the Criterion Clause? Go ahead, dude. They're letting too many people in there. Okay, that's another film, grape I got two. Sadly, that rental place doesn't exist anymore. It's probably a store that sells running shoes. Or an ice cream shop with an extra P and an E at the end. So consider us your slacker movie clerks in podcast form.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I would like to establish a timeline of the moment you figured out who Channing Tatum was. Every Tuesday, we dig into the movies. Can't stop obsessing over from hidden gems to big screen favorites. New episodes drop every week on the exactly right network. Listen to Dear Movies I Love You on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back, and I was hoping that I wouldn't have to talk about the grossness that is the allegations against Sean Diddy Combs and Jay-Z this week, Christmas week.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I might regret saying this, but as of the recording of this episode, there is no newsworthy enough of getting into here in this space. Of course, there is some, there is some rumblings out there that they did make some media, Jay Z's lawyers and Tony Busby are going back and forth in the press. Jay's lawyers are trying to get the case thrown out. There's yet another woman accusing Sean Combs of abuse, but like I said, no news worthy of getting into here. We'll surely have more, though, when we return for the new year, get a special fully scripted episode on Diddy coming the second week of January that details the indictments against him in all of the alleged behavior that compelled those indictments relative to Sean Diddy Combs' background in history.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So this is a straight up disgrace land episode. We did a Diddy episode last year. Okay. We're going to put that back in the feed because it's a part one. It's a natural part one. We didn't intend for it to be a part one. We thought at the time we were just doing an episode on Sean Combs and then all Holy hell broke loose with the Cassie Ventura story. We had already had that episode written and recorded and ready to go when the Cassie Ventura story broke. We released that episode about two weeks after Combs settled with Cassie. And it's mainly a story about his upcoming, his upbringing, the stampede, the nightclub shooting, J-Lo, that era of Sean Combs. but naturally it all serves as a perfect backdrop,
Starting point is 00:21:39 a perfect origin story, a perfect part one for the story, the recent story of Sean Combs on Cassie Ventura and the federal indictment that he is facing right now. That is going to be the new episode on Sean Dedy Combs that is coming your way in a couple weeks. And I can't wait for you guys to hear it. 617-9066638. That's how you get in touch with me.
Starting point is 00:22:03 one of the ways you can leave me a voicemail there you can send me a text you can also hit me up on the socials at disgracelam pod you guys know this and you can email me disgracelam pod at gmail.com all right we just released an episode on chris farley and normally i would have spent a considerable amount of time in the first part of this episode uh the bonus episode talking about our previous full episode as i usually do but i wanted to give you guys more time this week it's the end of the year It's Christmas. I wanted this to be a little bit more communal. You know, we didn't do a big Christmas party or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:22:37 We had some folks jump on a Zoom. We had an impromptu disco Christmas party with our book club members. But yeah, no big bash. So I wanted to include more of you guys in this bonus episode. So Chris Farley, unfortunately, got a little bit of the axe. However, 610 chimes in on Fave SNL characters. Question of the week. Favorite SNL player?
Starting point is 00:23:00 got to be Phil Hartman, hands down, so hard to play straight and hilarity and maintain a straight face. So great. And if there's any doubt, see Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer and cooking with the anal retentive chef. Gone too soon. Happy everything, Mary, everything. Rock a roll up from Jonathan in the 610. I agree on Phil Hartman. And that era to me, that sort of era of Phil Hartman and Dennis Miller and Dana Carvey, Mike Myers transitioning into the Adam Sandler. Chris Farley, David Spade era, just peak, peak, peak, Pek, S&L in my mind. 911 text saying, hey, Jake, I live in New York,
Starting point is 00:23:41 but I work in Little Falls, New Jersey, and my coworkers have been talking about these drones for weeks. I finally saw some driving home this week. Not sure I can help figure this out, but I can tell you what I saw. They're not small backyard drones. They flew right above the tree line, too low to be a plane.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And maybe I saw the drones that hunt other drones. I've been scouring the internet trying to find out myself. What I saw had what looked like two white lights, a blue light and a blinking red light that reminded me of a recording light or maybe the light on a remote. Finally seeing them gives me more questions, but hope this is at least interesting to you.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Of course it's interesting 9-17. It's fascinating. I can't stop thinking of this. It's insanity. And I'm not going to lie, down here in our neck of the woods, we saw something very anomalous the other night. and, you know, the absurdity of UAPs and UFOs, I believe, is intentional.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I have a whole, whole deep, deep take on this that I'm not going to bore you with. But my wife, my kids, and I, my wife is extremely skeptical of this type of stuff. We saw something last week. It was not a plane and it was not a backyard drone. And the flight pattern was not a flight pattern. It flew in basically a square over our house, our neighborhood, actually. It was wider than just our house. And unfortunately, it was cloudy that night, and we couldn't really get eyes on it.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And it freaked me out. Freaked me out pretty hardcore. Freaked both of us up. But it was low. It was too low for a plane. It sounded, at first I thought it sounded like a plane. That was my take. I was like, that's a plane, but it wasn't a propeller plane.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And then the next night I saw a low propeller plane and I heard it and it was nothing like what we saw the night before. Now, I'm not telling you that I saw one of these drones. I'm just telling you that I saw some weird shit. And the lighting pattern that you've described here, 917, was the exact lighting pattern that we saw. What we saw looked, it looked exactly like what we're seeing on the news on TikTok. But again, I'm not saying it was a drone.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I'm not saying it was a UFO. I'm not saying it was a UAP. all I'm saying is that it was anomalous and I cannot explain what it was and neither can my wife. It was weird. There's weird shit happening up there. 302 writes in, I'm not hearing anything until I hear from Tom DeLong. Tom has spoken on this and it's pretty fascinating. This is a post from his Instagram from last week from December 14th.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So a little over a week ago, it says the drones that are being discussed can hover for six hours. and then disappear once they're spotted. This is why it's been hard to get facts from any U.S. agency. Some of them can even move into the ocean and then back up into the air, which is called Transmedium Travel, a very hard thing to do. If you look at this document above, and it's Instagram, so there's an image of this document. It's not redacted.
Starting point is 00:26:42 In fact, it has graphics indicating where to look. If you look at this document above, it seems like it's a repeat of exactly what happened in the 60s, it being what we're seeing now in New Jersey. There's a good chance that these things could potentially be mimicking other aircraft. And this even happened more recently in situations at Skinwalker Ranch years ago. And it was being studied by the U.S. government under BAAAS and AATIP. And again, also decades ago in the 60s, it's all something to consider.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And although we don't have all the facts yet, we do know that UFOs play with mimicry. And that has been known for quite some time. Why? To get us to notice them without a major freakout. Who knows? But, well, we are noticing them nonetheless. And he's right. I didn't mean that. But Tom was right. He's right here. We are noticing them. We are noticing something. I don't know if it's them, but we're noticing something. And something that I read the other day about this was very, very interesting. And you can verify this on the internet if you feel like it. The truth is out there, as they say. So these drones in New Jersey, I'm not going to go deep on this, I promise. but I'm just going to indulge my inner obsession here for a second. These drones in New Jersey, turns out not last year, but the year before, was the first time they appeared in a way that they are appearing now,
Starting point is 00:28:05 very similar, drone-like, unidentified flying objects in the air. Three years ago, not last year, the year before, right? Over Langley, CIA, okay? And they didn't know what they were. Then again, last year, same thing, over Langley, CIA. And I'm blowing the point here. The main point, it was this exact same time of year that they appeared in both instances. So this year, Langley was ready for them.
Starting point is 00:28:31 But they didn't appear over Langley. They appeared in New Jersey and with more intensity and more of them, more volume, apparently. So like I said, you can look that up and you can find that information there. And I would tell you to look into this guy named Ryan Graves, who's a former naval pilot. and he has some incredible things to say about the subject. Okay, let's get off the UFO here for a second. Go to the 412. Who says, just listened to the bonus episode last week,
Starting point is 00:29:00 wondering how the guy backpacking in Cambodia can mention run DMC and not Dead Kennedys holiday in Cambodia. Keep up the good work, love your stuff. Well, he was talking about a Christmas song, man. And maybe he's not a Dead Kennedy fan. Are the Dead Kennedys, is that hiking music? I don't know, but I take your point, Cambodia being the main thing here. And we're going to close out this subject on Christmas songs right here.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We're going to put it to bed. Hey, Jake, happy holidays. This is from the 503. I just learned a new to me Christmas song yesterday, and it's definitely jumped up as a favorite since it's new to me. I can definitely say it's my current favorite Christmas song. So I got real excited when you extended the request so that I could text in and say,
Starting point is 00:29:41 Spinal Taps Christmas with the Devil Wales. Before I heard the song, I would have said the band's Christmas must be tonight. So a couple things here. know anything about either of these songs. So thank you. This is amazing. I appreciate this. I'm adding them to my Christmas mix, which, I know it's late, but if you want to check it out, go to my Instagram. You'll see, you'll find a link somewhere for my Christmas mix. Hey, Jake, it's Jack. This is Jack from the 707, saying the best Christmas music, as with most music,
Starting point is 00:30:11 comes from an emotional connection of heartbreak and pain. And then the catharsis that follows. it's why River by Joni Mitchell or Last Christmas by Wham can still be a gut punch after all these years. And you keep going back to it. But the man with the bag makes you want to gouge your earballs. The best example of this is Christmas card from a hooker in Minneapolis by Tom Waits. Cheers, man. Happy holidays. Tom Waits one is great. The Wham one is great.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And I don't know the Joni Mitchell one, but I'm going to check it out. And 707, this is perfect because next week we're talking. about sad songs. In 707, I want to hear, I want to hear from you on the artist that guts you emotionally. Okay, I want to hear from all you guys, but 707, I specifically want to hear from you on this. Is it Tom Waits? Is it Hank Williams? Who is it? Speaking of Last Christmas by Wham, this is kind of messed up. And I have like this, I don't know if you guys who are relatively, you know, Gen X, my age, You know, the 90s were a weird, a weird year for us for media because on the one hand, everything we had loved before Nirvana, the whole culture of alternative culture became popular
Starting point is 00:31:28 and it became huge and it became mainstream. And there was a reaction to that where you instantly just don't want to have anything to do with it anymore because it's no longer your secret. Somebody else has co-opted it. And I find that I have huge, huge black holes of culture in the 90s because I must have just checked out completely. Now, I know Last Christmas by Wham is an 80s song. However, it was getting played in the 90s and it was a hit in the 80s. And I realized this week that the first version I heard of that song was the Jimmy Eat World version, which is kind of a different arrangement.
Starting point is 00:32:08 They leave out like an entire verse, I think, which is just crazy. that I completely missed that George Michael thing. I just completely missed it, the Wham song when it was happening. Totally missed it until like 2006-ish in that era, I guess. Wild. Anyways, love that song. My oldest son is learning bass, and we were rocking on it last night as a family. He was playing bass.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I was playing guitar. My youngest was singing. And my wife even had the tambourino. We were getting into the Christmas spirit guy. Come on. 775 text it. My dog, you hear that? The poor, poor Amazon workers.
Starting point is 00:32:53 They come to the door, they're working their asses off, they're overtired, and they get greeted with attitude by Dusty. Dusty, dusty, dusty, I can hear her growl and I hope you can't. Okay, the 775 text in. I knew the story of Johnny Yase, but never connected the dots till hearing the disgrace land episode 775. appreciate you glad you dug that episode if you guys haven't heard the Elvis Presley Johnny Ace disgrace that episode from a couple weeks ago it's my new
Starting point is 00:33:22 favorite Christmas episode I don't know what you're waiting for go check that out and while we're waiting for you to listen to it we're going going throughout the holiday season you can call me you can text me 6790666 638 leave me a voicemail you can hit me up at disgrace land pod on Instagram Facebook or X or you can email me disgrace land pod at gmail.com Nicholas Ryan Emmanuel on Facebook writes, hey, I absolutely love your podcast. If you get time, you should do one on Depeche Mode
Starting point is 00:33:51 and include devotional tour, the most debauched tour in rock history. You're the best. Nicholas, get in touch. Where are you getting your Depeche Mode information from? What's the book? There's a bunch of books, I'm sure, but what is the Depeche Mode book I should read
Starting point is 00:34:06 to really kind of, you know, get the vibes? Let me know, particularly on the debauchery. Michael LaBella on Facebook. but great shows, keep it the good work, love listening to the stories, and now the extra stuff. Michael LaBella on Facebook, you're in for it, man, because we're going to be bringing some extra stuff to Facebook in 2025. Teresa Burden writes in Elvis, six question marks. I thought Elvis was a topic you were not going to touch until the end.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Please tell me this isn't a death knell for disgrace land. Teresa, no, it is not. Yes, I did say that, but this is not an Elvis episode completely. It's an Elvis and Johnny Ace episode. It is more of a Johnny Yase episode, if we're being honest. It covers one particular moment in Elvis's life. Actually, too. But yeah, I did say that when you hear the Elvis Presley episode in your disgrace land feed,
Starting point is 00:34:54 it will mean that I have left the building, that that is the last episode of disgraceland. However, that's not the case here. Like I said, it's an Elvis and Johnny Yase episode. So what I said, still holds true. Still holds true. I know. I know I'm flubbing it here. But I really wanted to get Elvis in that.
Starting point is 00:35:11 of this story because it really framed it up nicely for me and it made it a lot more interesting. But Teresa, have no fear. Disgraceland is going nowhere. Over on Instagram at Leo X. Fury writes in, just finish your last after party. And my all-time favorite rock and roll story is the one where Rick James saves Jim Morrison's life. What a wild story that is, thinking that if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have my beloved doors making so much awesome music. You know, you're probably right. at Unlearned underscore Hand. Baz Heel writes on Instagram. One of my favorite Christmas movies.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Just unsolicited Christmas movie talk. I love this. I love it. We didn't talk at all about Christmas movies this year. And we should have. And I know Christmas just ended, but I don't care. I still have a bunch I need to watch.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And I love what Baz Heel here is getting at. One of my favorite Christmas movies trading places. Also better than late than ever, but best concert film, Blues Brothers. Trading Place's top three Christmas movie for me, maybe top two. Yeah, I'm trying to think of one that I like better. I want to say Goodfellas, but I don't want all the heat I'm going to take for that. Goodfellas is a Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I don't care. It's as much of a Christmas movie as Die Hard is. Die Hard's definitely a Christmas movie. I never got that argument. It didn't make any sense. All right, if you guys are following me on Instagram, you saw last week I posted this incredible clip that I either forgot about or it was not part of the original film Easy Rider. I had no recollection of this. It's a scene where Jack
Starting point is 00:36:45 Nicholson is sitting around the fire with Dennis Hopper and they're talking about aliens. And if you just suspend your disbelief and you imagine this happening like in the last 10 days, it is fascinating to hear. Fascinating. In my Jersey drone hysteria last week, I really fell back in touch with John Coltrane's Love Supreme album. There's something about that. record, the way it starts in particular. To me, it completely just connects the insanity of the 2024 moment that we are ending right now, the UAPs, the drones, the madness of the last year, and the Christmas spirit. A Love Supreme is John Coltrane's most spiritual album, at least that I know of.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And I don't know, listening to it last week, it just kind of tied the whole year together and the moment for me. All right, I'll be back in a flash with your reviews and your emails. All right, guys, we are back. You know the drill, reviews, help with discovery. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Get on Apple podcast, get on Spotify, leave a review for the show. If I read it here on the after party, you guys get in touch with me, we hook you up with some free merch. Not all of you, a couple of you. The ones we read the reviews from. We pick a couple every week.
Starting point is 00:38:16 This one comes from the big gabber. I listen while I work and I often find myself audibly gasping. The latest hag episode gave me legit chills. And this person, this reviewer, this listener is obviously talking about the Merle Haggard episode of Disgraceland. That's in your feed right now. Top of your feed, you can check that out. Merle's early life of crime, his conversion to the not-so fight inside of life via a Johnny Cash show at San Quentin. Check that out.
Starting point is 00:38:46 was an Apple podcast review. This one comes from Spotify. Delican says another excellent afterparty. Thanks, man. Really dig and appreciate all the research you put into your podcast. Feels like a lot of them are just someone reading Wikipedia, some Yahoo with a podcast. Keep up the good work and know we love you out here. Thank you so much, Delican. Appreciate you. Love you back. Hope you're having a good holiday. Hope you had a good Christmas. Hope you're set for a good new year. Hope we're all set for a good new year. Hope we can all grab some peace of mind and has some peace in our hearts. Get ready to take on 2025, kick its ass as thoroughly as we kicked to 2024s.
Starting point is 00:39:23 This episode is nearing its end, unfortunately, but the after-party does not have to end. Okay, it continues for our all-access members. You can sign up, disgracelandpod.com slash membership. Get the bonus section of the after-party bonus episode. That's coming up right here, the exclusive section, I should say. You also get an exclusive episode per month, and you get in on the chat at Patreon plus add free listening with your
Starting point is 00:39:48 Patreon or Apple subscriptions. All right, go to disgraceandpod.com slash membership. I get a split. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:57 This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. And my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance, like he's about to attack me, like, making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going, and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead. Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Camilla Marone, Carrie Kenny Silver. And more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened.
Starting point is 00:42:48 His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them, changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you do. You know, you look back at it
Starting point is 00:43:08 and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we are back. Christmas. Man, I hope you had a good one. I really do. And I hope you have a great new year. I want to thank you guys for an incredible year, 2004. I want to tell you something. I'm very much looking forward to 2025 and all that we are going to do together here in disgrace land.
Starting point is 00:43:55 From the preservation of the real rock and roll spirit to the continuation of these bat shit crazy stories about rock stars in the dark side of entertainment. We have so much on tap for you in 2000. New Sean Combs, as I mentioned, Beastie Boys, another Martin's Corsese episode, which you are not going to want to miss. Louis Armstrong, Blink 182, Thin Lizzie, George Michael, Billy Idol. I kind of want to sneak a Slayer episode in here in the early part of the year somehow. I don't know how we're going to do it. Go-Go's. We're going to do another Prince episode for you guys. Finally going to do an episode on Big L.
Starting point is 00:44:34 We have a lot going on in 2025. I cannot wait to get into these stories with all of you. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your support, all the texts, all the voicemails, all the DMs, all the emails, all the reviews, the back and forth we have here in the after party, everything we have going on on the socials. Looking forward to bringing you guys new video content in 2025 as well. Thanks for hanging in there with me.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Appreciate you. All right. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Whatever you get up to, I hope you're safe. and I hope you got peace of mind and peace in your heart. All right, listen, we mentioned a lot of previously covered disgrace land subjects in this episode. You guys mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:45:15 You guys brought them up. I brought some of them up, but mainly you guys. So I'm going to give you a list of just a few here because there's a ton of them. But just a few here for you to check out back in the archive. All right, we talked about Graham Parsons. Talked a lot about Graham, especially in the bonus section here. Graham Parsons is episode number 68, released on January 12, 2000. That's from season seven, Grand Parsons, Rolling Stones in exile.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Obviously, we talked about that because of Grand Parsons. That is from season three. Episode 36, released on July 23rd, 2019. G.G. Allen, going all the way back to season two, episode 19, released on September 11th, 2018. Willie Nelson, we talked about. Got two episodes on the Wilster. Season 11 released back.
Starting point is 00:46:06 in April 25th, 2020. That's part one, part two on May 2, 2002, Willie Nelson from season 11 of disgrace land. And Chuck Barry, that's going to be back in season six. Chuck is episode number 67,
Starting point is 00:46:22 release date November 24th, 2020. Get in the archive, guys. We're adding to the archive every week. Thinking about maybe an Alice Cooper episode, too. I mentioned Slayer. Alice Cooper. Feels like you guys want an Alice Cooper episode. I mean Alice would talk to me too.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I don't think that would be that hard to hook up. And I, you know, as we get into the bonus section of this after party, I got thinking that there's an Elvis Costello episode here somewhere. I think I can do something around the whole SNL thing and BB Buell, something, something interesting. Perhaps we shall see. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, I want your story. This is the new thing. I want your story. Call me, text me, hit me up out of the socials.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Your favorite story of rock and roll animalism is wildest story about a rock star as you are aware of or that you maybe were part of. You want to tell me about it. It could be something that I've already told in a podcast, but we can go deeper into here. All right? Let me know. Number two, right now in your feed, our episode on Hank Williams. Number three, coming tomorrow, a special New Year's Rewind episode, two of them, actually,
Starting point is 00:47:29 from our archive on Dennis Wilson to the Beach Boys, who passed away right around this time back in 181, 83, early 80s. Number four, merch winners, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor this week's subject, Hank Williams, this is me reading to you, the billboard chart from the day he died on New Year's 1953.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Number one, don't let the stars get in your eyes, Perry Como. Last week, two, weeks on chart, seven. Number two, glowworm, Mills Brothers. Last week, four, weeks on chart, 16. Number three, why don't you believe me? James, last week, three, weeks on chart, 13. Number four, it's in the book, parts one and two, Jay Stanley.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Last week, three, weeks on chart, 15. Number five, till I waltz again with you. T and Brewer. Last week is eight. Weeks on church. Five. When a group of women discover
Starting point is 00:48:53 they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen.
Starting point is 00:49:11 to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests
Starting point is 00:49:28 like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever, and my first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? Rather be disappointed in. Do that.
Starting point is 00:49:42 David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gait and Moderato from Stranger Things, Tana Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sometimes a suspect is found guilty before a verdict is ever read in court. on the Wicked Words podcast, I talk with the writers who dig deep into the cases that changed history, including Marsha Clark, who went from prosecuting one of the most famous murder cases to writing crime fiction. It doesn't matter that you didn't take part in the murder. If you were at the scene at all, you're guilty of murder.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Every week, the real story is revealed. Join us every Monday for new episodes of Wicked Words. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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