DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Why Does Hollywood Ignore The Most Impactful Music?

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

This week in the After Party, Jake wonders why horror film soundtracks, despite their importance to the mood of their films, are so often ignored by Hollywood when it comes to award season. Plus, we h...ear from you on the movies that scare you. Next week we're bringing you a brand new part 2 episode on AC/DC. AC/DC's Back in Black is the biggest selling rock album of all time. Jake wants to know: What do you think is the greatest rock album ever? Share your thoughts at 617-906 6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To hear an extended version of the After Party where Jake and Dr. Zeth Lundy discuss scary performances in films that are not horror movies, become an All Access member at ⁠disgracelandpod.com⁠. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hey, Discos. Need a little more disgrace land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after party.
Starting point is 00:02:35 This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about why Hollywood ignores
Starting point is 00:02:50 some of the most impactful music ever made. We're rewinding back to our ACDC Part 1 episode, previewing next week. week's new episode on ACDC, part two of that story. And we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of rosy. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. When the Exorcist was released in
Starting point is 00:03:35 1974, the movie sent some theatergoers screaming through the aisles in terror. They've vomited, fainted, more than one had a heart attack, and another had a miscarriage. The movie's shocking images of a possessed 12-year-old girl are credited with causing the extreme audience reaction. But the incredible music from The Exorcist also contributed to the intense fear that audiences felt. Horror movie music, unlike music and other film genres, is essential to the success of a film. Horror movie music is also the most memorable music in cinema. Think of films like Psycho, The Shining, and yes, The Exorcist, and try to imagine these movies without the music.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You really can't. So why then have these and other original horror scores received little recognition from Hollywood? The cultural impact the Exorcist had was massive. In addition to the physical repulsion from some audiences, the film sparked a nationwide debate over faith. Protestants condemned it. The Vatican basically said, see, we told you so. SNL spoofed it.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And aspiring filmmakers everywhere, John Carpenter, West Craven, and others grabbed cameras with newfound inspiration that led to an eventual explosion in horror a decade later. In 1973 and 74, the Exorcist grossed $233 million domestically, the equivalent to over a billion dollars today. It's no wonder the film was the first horror movie nominated for Best Picture at the 46th annual Academy Awards. In total, the Exorcist received 10 Academy Award nominations for Best Actress, Actor, Supporting Actress, Director, Cinematography,
Starting point is 00:05:26 editing, writing, production, and sound mixing. But not for Best Original Score, Original Score Adaptation, or Best Song, which I always found to be a glaring omission given the power and originality of the Exorcist theme, Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield. As a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s, I knew that music before I ever even saw the film. It's iconic, like the music of so many other horror films. But tubular bells almost didn't happen, at least not in The Exorcist. Director William Freakin rejected scores by legendary composers Bernard Herman,
Starting point is 00:06:03 you know the dude who scored Psycho and Lalo Schifrin who came up with the Mission Impossible theme. In fact, Freedkin was so unimpressed and frustrated with the process of finding suitable music for his film that he literally threw Lalo Schifrin's score out of the window. You can hear more about this incident in the wild drama around choosing the music for The Exorcist in this week's disgrace and mini episode, which as you probably know by now is available only to all access members. but the main reason I mentioned Friedkin's frustration here is because it speaks to how important music is to a film production, especially a film that's supposed to elicit fear. Freakin hunted through the archives at Warner Brothers and eventually Atlantic Records
Starting point is 00:06:47 until he stumbled upon a Prague rock composition by an unknown 19-year-old English musician named Mike Oldfield. And Freakin knew immediately that the scinty tension of Oldfield's tune, tubular bells, would create a unique sense of modern dread and compel audiences. And boy howdy, was he right. But the Academy didn't see it that way. And thus, no nomination. To be fair, the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts, and Sciences,
Starting point is 00:07:15 has always had a hands-off relationship with the horror genre. Horror movies, along with other so-called genre films, seldom get nominated in non-technical categories. But The Exorcist changed that, for a minute anyway. In 1976, Jaws won the Oscar for Best Original Score by John Williams, and deservedly so. And in 1977, the horror film The Omen took home the Best Original Score Oscar composed by Jerry Goldsmith. However, in the many years since, despite the continued excellence and impact of horror film music, only three horror movies have been nominated for Best Original Score since 1977.
Starting point is 00:07:55 one for Amityville Horror in 1980, one for interview with a vampire in 1995, and one for the village in 2005. That's just three nominations in nearly 50 years. 50 years of incredible horror movies with impactful and memorable music. Movies like Susperia, The Shining, Let the Right One In, The Witch, Get Out, and Hereditary. All films that were Oscar-worthy themselves, or contain performances that were Oscar-worthy and contained Oscar-worthy original music. Given that the Academy typically dumps the horror genre into its technical award categories,
Starting point is 00:08:36 the fact that none of these great films were nominated for Best Original Score is perplexing, to say the least. It's almost like the Academy purposefully overlooks horror and horror music. The mission of the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts, and Sciences is to recognize excellence and inspire the next, generation of filmmakers. Without belaboring the point, every horror movie I've mentioned in this piece achieves cinematic excellence and has inspired future generations of filmmakers. Furthermore, the mission of filmmaking is partly to explore deeply human themes. What's more human than fear?
Starting point is 00:09:14 And fear, as expressed in film, is done so most effectively with great music. Music you can can't forget, but somehow music Hollywood disgracefully ignores. I'll be back after this with your calls, texts, voicemails, and more. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. In this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
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Starting point is 00:13:10 All right, we are back. And speaking of Oscars, Zeth and I are hosting our own Academy Awards in the exclusive. section to this after party. And we're going to be nominating the movies from Hollywood history that aren't horror but are so scary that could be considered horror. Does that make sense? Great films that scare the hell out of you, but aren't horror movies, great performances in films that are scary that aren't horror movies. You know what we're talking about. And to access this content, you know the drill. Five bucks to become an all-access member and unlock exclusive content like this, as well as the mini episodes and also get ad-free listening.
Starting point is 00:13:55 All right, this horror movie and music talk is because we dropped our Exorcist episode in the feed this week, a movie that directly inspired the music we created for the ACDC Part 1 episode that we're rewinding for you directly after this. And before we get into ACDC Part 2, the continuation of that story, that's going to be our brand new episode coming to you on Tuesday. The ACDC story deals with the murder for hire incident involving drummer Phil Rudd and the album Back in Black is a huge part of this story. as is, of course, dirty deeds done dirt cheap. But Back in Black is the second biggest selling album of all time. That's just incredible. You wouldn't think it'd be ACDC.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I don't know. It sounds strange to say that. The number one selling album of all time is Thriller by Michael Jackson. Number two, back in black. So it's the highest selling rock record of all time. But is it the greatest rock record of all time? I don't think so. I don't even think it's the greatest ACDC record, not by a long shot.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Difficult question to answer. You can only listen to one rock record. the rest of your life, start to finish. Which is it? Which rock album has no skips? Which rock record is dynamic enough, is textured enough, deep enough to keep you captivated? Which rock record best represents this massively popular genre? What is the greatest rock and roll record of all time? And why? That's what I want you guys to be thinking about next week when you're listening to ACDC Part 2. And that's what I want you guys to answer. Call me at 617-90666-36-3-8 or send me a voicemail. Let me know. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com on the email machine
Starting point is 00:15:32 at Disgraceland pod on the socials. I know this is a basic question, but it's a big one. That's what kind of makes it hard. So I'm looking forward to your answers here. Last week's question of the week was, what's the scariest movie of all time? Another basic question, but a hard one, a hard one to answer because God damn, there are a lot of scary movies. Incredible ones, even beyond the beyond the world of horror. And again, we're going to get into that later in the exclusive section. Obviously, this question about scary movies was prompted by our Exorcist episode. Let's hear what you guys have to say on this subject. Matt, let's hear from the 414. Hey, Jake. I'm just responding to the question about what is the scariest movie that I've seen.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I think that it would be a movie from Turkey called Baskin. It's possible that I've done. only saw it once and so it maybe overly affected me, but I was really freaked out by that movie. Other people might have different things. I thought that one was pretty bad. Martyrs was intense, but it wasn't the most horrible. It wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't that bad. Anyways, enjoy spooky season and take care. Baskin, I've never heard of this movie. I am intrigued. something about turkey scares the hell out of me i had a sketchy flight from turkey once a layover that might be part of it i've heard of martyrs and never never seen it i'm excited to watch so i love these recommendations here all right baskin and martyrs thank you four one for
Starting point is 00:17:12 matt let's check in with tony from the 206 hey jay tony from the 206 happy Halloween to you to answer your question about what movies scare me, video drone, that's the one I had to cut off right in the middle of the movie because I was like, okay, this is becoming too much. But the one that I recently went back and rewatched with my wife, actually about two nights ago, was the movie Strangers with Liv Tyler. That movie is still scary to this day the way it was when I saw it in the theater back in 2008. and what's scary about it is it's just old school, no backstory to who these three killers are,
Starting point is 00:17:56 they just show up and just terrorize the hell out of this couple at this vacation home. That's a good one. And I think a movie that doesn't get talked about enough that is still pretty scary, and let me know your opinion on this, has to be the movie 1408 with John Cusack and Samuel L. Jackson, the one where John Cusack goes to the hotel
Starting point is 00:18:16 that Samuel L. Jackson is telling them, don't stay here. There's been over 26 deaths in this room. I think that's a movie that doesn't get talked about enough in the conversation of good horror films. Let me know what your take on that is. Much love from the 206 and happy Halloween, lock and rolla.
Starting point is 00:18:32 All right, Tony, videodrome is awesome. Yes, it's a lot. But I want to go to the next part of your comment here. I could not agree more about strangers. One of the absolute scariest films I've ever seen, if not the scariest film I've ever seen. I love it. I love the simplicity of it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I think that that has a lot to do with why it's so frightening. Something about the subject matter, the home invasion piece that just, man, what's scarier than a home invasion? I don't know. I mean, come on. I've talked about the strangers before with you guys. I haven't watched it, though, in about two years. Maybe I'll break it out this week before Halloween's over. Thank you so much. And as, by the way, Tony, as far as 14-08 goes, not only have I never seen it, I've never even heard of it. I'm going to take your word for it.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Love John Cusack. And I'll check that out. Great recommendations, Tony. Thank you, my brother. All right, let's do some texts. Let's check out this text from the 907 who says, I know this is controversial, but the movie that creep me out the most was the Blair Witch Project,
Starting point is 00:19:42 up until the very end of the movie. I was unimpressed. And, okay, guys, spoiler alert, If you've never seen Blair Witch Project, just telling you, turn the volume down for a minute and then come back. 907 goes on to say, I was unimpressed and thought it was the hoax that it is. However, the guy standing in the corner right before the video ended abruptly got me. I was freaked out for the rest of the night. Lisa from the 907, Lisa, we forget, man.
Starting point is 00:20:07 We forget how huge Blair Witch Project was culturally, for those of us who were there at the time. it was a massive movie and it was just one of those things you know it couldn't exist now because of the internet you know it would be it would have been spoiled and it wouldn't have had the run that it had in theaters but it was just one of those things it was like wildfire and you had to see it word was this movie oh my god get get to the theater now go watch it and thankfully when i saw it i i didn't know what was up i was i went in fairly ignorant, which is the best way to go into seeing this movie. And the experience was incredible.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm obviously talking about it in kind of a veiled way right now. In case anybody's turned the volume back up after that spoiler alert, I don't want to give it away. It's a great experience. Check out Blair Witch Project if you haven't. If you happen to be one of the few people in the world out there who has no idea what this movie is or doesn't know anything about it, you're lucky. Consider yourself privileged and just go watch it. Don't go to the internet. Don't ask questions.
Starting point is 00:21:14 All right, let's check out 703 who says, hey, I am still terrorized by two horror movies. My four older brothers took me to see at the tender age of seven and eight. All unbeknownst to our parents, the Exorcist and Fantasim. They still creep me out to this day so much that I still can't watch or listen to anything about them. God damn, man. I can't imagine seeing The Exorcist as a seven. year old. Never mind as a seven-year-old in 1973 when it was released after everything I gave you earlier in the B-block about what it was like for theater goers. I was reading this morning something I didn't
Starting point is 00:21:56 mention. I wonder, unfortunately, the 703 didn't give me her name. I wonder if you had this experience, 703. I was reading William Peter Blattie, the guy who wrote The Exorcist, I was reading an interview with him this morning and he was talking about how, you know, most people now, or whenever he said this, I don't know when he said it. It was some years after the exorcist, but he was like most people assumed that the reaction, the physical, the visceral reaction that people had in the theaters was because of the obvious stuff like Linda Blair,
Starting point is 00:22:25 vomiting, you know, and like day glow green and her head turning around backward and, again, the crucifix thing, and all that. But he said the thing, the thing that really got to people and that made them nauseous in the, in the, in the theaters made them freak out was the needle and the blood splurt. And he said that was it every time. It was that simple. And I can't disagree with him. I wonder, seven or three, if you had that experience, you were there at the time. I suspect that it wasn't just the needle. It was probably the
Starting point is 00:23:04 vibe that had been set and the tension and where people were and how the movie was, how they were sitting within the movie and they were just primed for something so real to, but simple, to have such a huge impact on them. That and of course, the music, as I said. All right, let's check out the 309 who writes, hey, I want to give you flowers. I heard about your podcast. And since I heard about it, I gave it a listen. And I'm completely hooked. My wife and I own a dance and performing arts studio, so when I'm not working my full-time job, I'm up there at the studio putting some work in. Thankfully, my work is simply behind the scenes. But being that it is a dance and performing art studio, music is definitely a big thing. I want to bring this message to a close because I feel like
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm beginning to ramble on and I don't want to come off like some crash test dummies. Chees, side note, that's one of my favorite parts of the show. Thank you, 309. Guys, I don't know why, but I love the texts and the emails that let me in on. a little bit of the personal stuff from you guys, where you work, especially. Not too personal. I just like, you know, thinking about people out there, getting through their day, listening to the stuff that we put together over here at Double Lov is to help them pass the time. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It means a lot. Maybe because I spent a lot of my young adulthood doing jobs, I, you know, that I needed something to help me pass the time with. And I know how valuable that is. And to think that we're kind of contributing to that. I don't know. It just makes me feel good. So yeah, feel free to hit me up.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Let me know what you guys are doing for work, and especially if you're listening to Disgraceland while you're doing it. And remember, question of the week for next week, guys, greatest rock album of all time, 617-906-66-6-6-3-8. Think about this one. Don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Don't roll your eyes. Don't do that. Stop. Stop. Just stop. It's a serious question. I know it's basic, but it's a serious question, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:03 It's a hard question when you think about it. The simple questions are the hardest. Like when someone asks you how you doing, you know, it's a simple question. It's sometimes hard to answer. The one hand, I'm doing great. Doing what I want to be doing right now. On the other hand, there's about 10 other things I could be doing. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how to answer this question. It's so hard. I mean, Springsteen, Born to Run, Led Zeppelin 4, ACDC Poweridge, bad brains, eye against eye. There are so many records, rock records. Yeah, I know. Bad Brains is a hardcore band, but my eyes are a rock and roll band. So many different ways to go. You got one, like really picture. You just can't listen to another one. You can listen to other music. You just can't listen anymore. Rock. What's it going to be? 617-90666-6-36-3-8. I want to know. You can email me as well. Disgraceland Pod at gmail.com like Peter C. who writes in, Hey, a mate just emailed me a short Elvis slash Ramones clip. I'm a huge Ramones fan.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And I want to buy a disgrace land t-shirt. Where can I? I buy one please? And hey, when are you coming to Adelaide? Cheers, Peter. Peter, you got to be more specific, dude. A short Elvis slash Ramones clip. I am very intrigued. Is this Elvis and the Ramones meeting up someplace? What are you talking about? Elvis and the Ramones performing together? How would that be possible? The Ramones were barely around before Elvis died. But I got to know. If this is real, you got to hit me up. Where's Adelaide? Australia?
Starting point is 00:26:40 I got to know. I don't want to be insulting. Hold on. I got to look this up. Yeah, Australia. I was right, Peter. You weren't insulted. But I'm intrigued.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So hit me back and let me know. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. And I'll just jump in here, Jake, to say, you know, for Peter, if you're looking for merch, the place for that is disgracelandpod.com slash merch. Or over on patreon.com. Disgraceland. Daniel K writes in, Hey, Jake, Disgraceland team. I'm a big fan of your podcast, paid subscriber,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and have been listening for over a year now. I love the deeply researched stories behind our favorite bands and especially discovering new artists that have somehow slipped by me. I'm also always racking my brain for my own recommendations for artists that you haven't covered, which is hard. But I don't think you've done one on the fantastic and criminally underrated Dr. John.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Well, Daniel, you will be happy to know all the way over there in Berlin, Germany, that I am recording the Dr. John episode next week, and it'll be coming your way, well, I don't know, maybe early in the new year, I think, perhaps, or no, actually before the end of this year. Yeah. So there you go, Daniel. Talk about that. Talk about instant satisfaction.
Starting point is 00:28:04 All right. I got an update for y'all. Some of you may have heard that we've been planning something big on Patreon that was supposed to drop this week, but due to an unforeseen issue, a good issue, by the way. We're holding that launch back along with the increased pricing for Patreon membership that we've been talking about. The price is going up, as they say, but it's not going up just yet like we thought. New content coming to Patreon very soon. And and, and if you're still on the fence about becoming a disgrace land, all at all at. access member, you still get time to join for just $5 a month before prices go up.
Starting point is 00:28:41 More news on this soon, and I'll be back in a flash. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:29:35 He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark. When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an act or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:02 My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? You'd rather be disappointed in. Do that. Dennis Leary. I wake up and I'm hitting him in the head with a water bomb. And Bruce Jenner is on the aisle in a karate stance like he's about to attack. me like making karate noises. And his entire the Kardashian family over there, everybody's going,
Starting point is 00:30:27 and the air marshal is trying to grab my arms and screaming. I immediately know that I've been asleep walking. David O'Yellowo. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Guy Branham. So anyway, Nicole Kidman broke up with Keith Thurban. Being half of a country couple was always a hat she was going to wear, not like a life she was going to lead.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Oh, interesting. I like that. Did you practice that on your way over? Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things. Tena Monsu. Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, host of the Wicked Words Podcast. Each week I sit down with the true crime writers behind some of the most compelling true crime stories and discuss their years spent investigating and why it still matters. He sees his father coming out of the woods with his hands over his face, and he knows something happened.
Starting point is 00:31:40 His father just grabs him and says she's gone. She's gone. These are the cases that leave survivors, families, and the journalists who cover them changed forever. Working in national television, it'll push you to your limits, and you'll end up doing things you never thought you do. You know, you look back at it and you're like, I can't believe that really happened. Join me and step inside the investigation. New episodes drop every Monday on the exactly right network. Listen to Wicked Words on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, this is not an episode of 60 Minutes.
Starting point is 00:32:28 This is, of course, the part of the show. where I rant about my third favorite subject behind music and movies, of course. And that would be sports. Matt, stop the buzzer beater. This is the 60-second sports rant and under 30 seconds. And it is once again sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Pumpkin Spice flavor, your favorite fall drink and an energy shot. You can pick up a Pumpkin Spice, Five Hour Energy shot,
Starting point is 00:32:49 available online at Five Hour Energy.com. All right, bring that ticker back in. Listen, this year's World Series has been incredible thus far. The Los Angeles Dodgers versus the Toronto Blue Jays. I'm watching these games with my sons and we're riveted. The series is now nodded at two games apiece. There was an historic 18 inning game this week. Shoea Atani is playing at a level that the baseball gods never could have imagined.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But it's not just Atani, who didn't win last night, by the way. Blue Jays won with Otani on the mound. It's not just Otani's brilliance. And despite his loss last night, he has been brilliant. it's the teams okay you can just see it the dodgers and the blue jays are legit powerhouses in all phases of the game at the plate on the mound in the bullpen on defense on the base pass each team has legit bowl face stars the dodgers they're they're stacked otani freeman bets why can't we get players like bets by the way uh anyways blue jays vlad junior bichette the little bowling ball behind the plate kirk these teams watching them It's painfully obvious to me how far the Red Sox are from contending at a championship level. And I know that there's a lot of you guys out there, Pirates fans. It's so hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You know, we see it. We see what it takes to win championships and to know that you're not there. It sucks. Okay. My team, socks, they've got pieces in place, but they need so much more. And this is, of course, the Red Sox ownership and management group that we're talking about. So I have little faith that the guys. going to sign the right pieces to compete. They'll sign some of them, and then they'll talk about
Starting point is 00:34:32 how they signed all of them, but they didn't. And next year, we're going to be right back. Same position we're in now, looking at two legit powerhouses in the World Series. We're not going to be one of them. But hopefully next year, one of them's not the Dodgers, and they're not, you know, and there's no, it's just, I can't watch Moogie Betts in the World Series, man. Kills me. I love the guy, but it kills me. You know what. All right, Matt, I know I went long there, but it all had to be said. And, uh, listen, that's the sports rant. Sponsored by the good people at Five Hour Energy and their new Pumpkin Spice flavor. These new Pumpkin Spice Five Hour Energy shots are fall in a bottle and bring that classic pumpkin spice flavor that we all know and love.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Our favorite fall drink and an energy shot, you can pick up a Pumpkin Spice Five Hour Energy shot available online at Five Hour Energy.com or Amazon. Hollywoodland, the rap party. What's Dr. Zeth Lundy cooking up in that feed you ask? Well, let's check in with Zeth and find out. Here's a clip. I watched a couple of seasonally appropriate movies this weekend, but even more importantly than the season, these are some of the huge blind spots in my viewing history that I'm finally correcting after all these years. Why are they blind spots? Why have I not seen them?
Starting point is 00:35:39 I don't know, man. Shit happens. Sometimes it takes a minute or a year or a decade for me to come around, but like Johnny Cash says, the man comes around. And first, I watched Evil Dead 2, the Sam Ramey horror film from 1987. And of course, I know about the legend of Evil Dead in terms of its importance in American Independent Cinema in the 1980s. Sam Ramey, of course, was an early collaborator with the Cohen brothers.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And you can see they stole his shaky cam move in their first two films, Blood Simple and Raising Arizona. But I also, I feel like Evil Dead 2 borrows that Looney Tunes sensibility liberally from Raising Arizona. I mean, it's kind of like the horror film equivalent of Raising Arizona, don't you think? like in terms of energy, the comedic sensibilities, and the whole turning weakness into strength or necessity being the mother of invention thing
Starting point is 00:36:32 that makes movies like these so great, so rewatchable. I mean, Evil Dead 2 is probably one of the most inventive films I have ever seen. This movie is like simultaneously a satire of a genre as well as a great representation of that genre. And then Bruce Campbell, who I mentioned before, National Treasure, he's like a wily coyoteing the whole thing. You can say this about a lot of things, and I do often, but I think it's demonstrably true here
Starting point is 00:36:59 that they don't make them like this anymore. Is it even possible to make a movie like this anymore? And so obsessed with questions like, what would you do if your own hand was possessed by an evil spirit and was trying to kill you? All right, you guys are the best. So you're already following Hollywoodland on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere podcasts are available. And if you're not, you should be. And well, that's that. So listen, I ask you, who wants to scary AF movies and movie performances that are not horror movies or horror movie performances. Zeth and I are nominating our non-horror movie scary movie Oscars right now in the exclusive section of this after party and the results, well, they might scare you. You got to be a member to
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Starting point is 00:38:36 and we'll get you the right info, the right link, whatever you need to listen. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on The Exorcist. It's available for you right now. Get in there, get creeped out. Number two, new mini episode for all access members on the nightmare that Exorcist director William Free
Starting point is 00:38:54 can put himself through trying to find the right music for the film. Fascinating story. You're not going to want to miss that. Number three, rewind episode on ACDC Part 1, coming up right after this. Number four, next week, our new episode it's ACDC Part 2, all right, the continuation of the ACDC story. Number five, Zethe gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodlands and make sure you're
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Starting point is 00:39:35 you do and well that's a disgrace all right this is the second week in a row we've had a punctuating date on the same day it's never happened before last week it was december 23rd back in 1985 when two judas priest fans shot themselves this week it's december 23rd 1973 the day the exorcist was released and here's what america was listening to on that day according to the billboard charts Number one, the most beautiful girl, Charlie Rich. Last week, one. Weeks on chart, 13. Peak position, one.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Number two, goodbye yellow brick road, Elton John. Last week, two. Weeks on chart, nine. Peak position, two. Number three, time in a bottle, Jim Crocey. Last week, five. Weeks on chart, six. Peak position, one.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Number four. Leave me alone. Ruby Reddress. Helen Reddress. Last five. Seven. Weeks on charge. Eight.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Peak position. Three. Number five. Hello. It's me. Talking and start mixing. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. They take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea, with me, Chelsea Handler, we have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.
Starting point is 00:41:41 When, like, young people come up to me and they want to be an actor or whatever. My first thing is always, can you think of anything else that you can do? rather be disappointed in. Do that. David O'Yello. I love this podcast, whether it's therapy or relationships or religion or sex or addiction or you just go straight for the guts. Dennis Leary, Gaten Moderato from Stranger Things,
Starting point is 00:42:06 Tena Monsu, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring
Starting point is 00:42:32 on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets, starting May 7th, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. your podcasts.

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