DISGRACELAND - Bonus: Mysterious Crosby Cowboy, Robin Thicke Bank Robbery, and More

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

Surprise! David Crosby isn’t who we thought he was. Same goes for Robin Thicke apparently as well. Lil’ Wayne though? What about Wayne Coyne? All of this and more plus your voicemails, tex...ts, DMs, emails, and more in this week’s bonus After Party episode of Disgraceland.For more great stories at the intersection of music and true crime, check out these stories from our archive:John Denver Chris CornellSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the After Party. Some random thoughts on music, murder, and movies for the week of September 17, 2006. David Crosby, the subject of this week's full episode of disgraceland, is one of my least favorite characters from music history, but that doesn't make him any less interesting. My disdain for Crosby isn't because of the music he made, though even as I can recognize the brilliance of the birds or Crosby's Nash and Young, it's not like I'm a massive fan of either group. But again, my dislike of Crosby as a character
Starting point is 00:02:36 doesn't have much to do with his music. It's because whenever he's popped up in my research, he just always seems to come off as an asshole. The first taste I got of this was when I was researching my John Denver episode, and Denver was part of the California folk scene in the mid-60s when the birds really started to happen. And Crosby, from my research, not only demonstrated this kind of staggering arrogance,
Starting point is 00:03:01 but he also didn't seem to have a sense of humor about much. And when you're an arrogant asshole, like I say, I don't know, like someone like Liam Gallagher or someone having a sense of humor goes a long way and not only making your behavior somewhat acceptable, but also entertaining. And David Crosby didn't seem to understand that or care, at least not from the research that I came up with.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Then there's this side of Crosby that stands in constant, contrast to his image. The gun-toting, free-basing lunatic doesn't exactly jive with all that late 60s, early 70s, peace and love and all those vibes that Crosby and his group seem to serve as avatars for. Now, this, this contrast, interested me. That picture of David Crosby by Henry Diltz, the one with the gun, the sort of makeshift gun that he's holding to his head, he's got the long hair, he's got the mustache, looks like a biker extra from easy, rider or someone you'd run into, a villain you'd run into perhaps in a Sam Peck and Paw movie, maybe one from an old Western, something like that, a saloon bad guy, not a hippie. He looks like a character from a murder ballad or something. This is what I was thinking about this morning when I was thinking about David Crosby, because as you all know, I'm obsessed with murder ballads, so I started digging around a little, and no real juice there regarding David Crosby and murder ballads, but there is some interesting Crosby true crime information that wasn't part of our
Starting point is 00:04:34 story this week. You might remember from our cast Elliott episodes where we explored the Manson Helter Skelter story. There was a character from those episodes that I refer to as cowboy. Now, cowboy was a fictional name that I gave to a real life character who's still alive and who was at some point very dangerous. And I'm not going to reveal Cowboy. his real name here, but in Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos, Cowboy is one of the shadowy ex-CIA government military-turned mercenary types who wormed his way into the hippie Hollywood Hills and the canyon scene and who potentially had something to do with the events that inspired the Manson murders. Now, I'm not going to go into all that right now because it's too big of a
Starting point is 00:05:17 diversion, but you just check out those episodes if you want to learn more. That's not the point. The point is that in chaos, Tom O'Neill says that the cowboy character, again, I'm using a fake name here because the dude is still alive. O'Neill uses his real name, though, and apparently because he's less afraid of dying than I am or whatever. But O'Neill says in his book that this dude, among other things, taught David Crosby how to shoot. Which, when I read that, I just stopped right in my tracks. David Crosby, hippie icon. taught was taught by some dude some ex-CIA murderous military operative how to shoot this is what i love rock and roll is fucking so weird it is so twisted the history of music the history of rock and
Starting point is 00:06:06 roll the history of pop music somehow this crosbie this true crime string that i was pulling on it led me to these incredible lil wane lyrics don't ask me how the lyrics for a song called shooter from the album The Carter, too. The song features Kirk Cameron's TV dad's son, Robin Thick, uh, on this Lil' Wayne track. Now, why does this Lil' Wayne song feature Robin Thick? Well, this is where it gets interesting and true crimey. Shooter by Lil Wayne is a remake of Robin Thick song, Oh, Shooter,
Starting point is 00:06:45 which is a song Thick wrote to detail the bank robbery that he was caught up in. Robin Thick was caught up in a bank robbery when he was 18 years old. Now, talk about the counterpoint that we were discussing with David Crosby earlier. This is extreme counterpoint. You don't think of Mr. Blurred Lines himself, Mr. Growing Pain's offspring as being caught up in a real-life bank robbery. This story is very interesting to me. It's very fascinating. Zeth and I are going to be revealing what went down exactly how Robin Thick was involved in a bank robbery at 18. in the exclusive section to this bonus episode coming up later in the show. You've got to be an All-access member, though to hear that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up for exclusive and ad-free content just like this. All right. David Crosby in the feed this week, our latest full episode of Disgraceland on David Crosby. Check that out if you have not already. Now, David Crosby was a musician who you did not fuck with, all right? not only did he carry a gun everywhere he went, but he was not afraid to use it either, okay? After the Manson murders, everyone in the California cannons was on high alert. And so one night, when Crosby was asleep with one of his many guns on his nightstand,
Starting point is 00:08:05 he woke up to the sound of breaking glass. And when he saw the man in a ski mask knocking out his window with the butt of a revolver, David Crosby sprung into action and grabbed the cold 45 that was next to him. fired at the masked man, and he missed. And he then saw that there were more of these dudes in his house. Without hesitation, Crosby sprinted across broken glass on the floor. His bare feet got all bloodyed. He chased these dudes out.
Starting point is 00:08:32 His pregnant girlfriend at the time, Debbie, grabbed a shotgun. And the masked gunman freaked out and headed for the hills. Okay, you did not fuck with David Crosby. You would not think this from the birds. You would not think this from Crosby Still's Nash and Young. This is the David Crosby that we're giving to you in the new episode this week. If you haven't heard it, we highly recommend you check it out, especially if you're like me. You grew up in the punk scene.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You grew up in hardcore. You hear Crosby stills Nash and whoever the fuck, and you're like, whatever, man. This ain't for me. Crosby was a different cat, and very interesting, despite what I might think of them. Now, coming up next in your feed, right after this episode, in our Rewind episode, this Sunday, we're going to have our archive episode on Travis Scott in Astro World. Now, no one wants to admit they played a part in creating a monster, especially one that takes the lives of 10 innocent people. But in 2023, Travis Scott sat in a room in Houston where he was grilled for eight hours by authorities. A Texas grand jury had declined to indict him on criminal charges, but 387 lawsuits were brought against Travis Scott and against Live Nation Entertainment and various subcontractors. Travis Scott was being accused of negligence and inciting dangerous behavior related to the 10 deaths at Astroland. Travis Scott maintained his innocence.
Starting point is 00:09:56 He said he didn't know how bad it got out there in the crowd, but he did admit that someone spoke to him during his performance shortly before 10 p.m. Right around the time that Drake had joined him on stage. A voice came through his ear monitor and said, yo, Trav, you get to wrap it up, it's getting kind of hectic out there. The voice did not say people are getting crushed, stopped, the show. It didn't say people can't breathe. They're passing out. They didn't say they're dying. It just said it's getting kind of hectic out there. And so Travis Scott wrapped it up. But he didn't
Starting point is 00:10:27 wrap it up for about another 14 minutes after that, roughly. This amount of time, 14 minutes, give or take is important because there was a stipulation in Travis's contract that said he had to complete his set as planned in order to earn a $4.5 million performance fee for the live stream of that night's concert. In other words, if Travis Scott stopped his Astor World performance, a performance where 10 people were killed, if he stopped playing, he stood to lose millions of dollars. Now, if you want to know how close Travis Scott came to being held criminally responsible for Astorworld and the deaths of 10 people and how a festival built by a hometown hero fell apart and became one of the deadliest nights in recent concert history, then you got to check out this
Starting point is 00:11:08 rewind episode of Disgraceland. Bobby Fuller was about to be the next Phil Specter. But then his mother found him dead in the front seat of her Oldsmobile. Now, the LAPD will tell you that Bobby Fuller's death is unsolvable, but they never dusted for fingerprints. They never fully investigated the many angles that showed that there was much more at play here with this crime. Like, why was Bobby Fuller covered in gasoline? Why was he missing an eyelid? Why was his finger bent back and broken? He was clearly beaten. So why? Why was he? was this death ruled unsolvable? And what was the connection between Bobby Fuller and the Genovese's crime family and the Genevieve's crime family and Bobby Fuller's record label Delphi Records,
Starting point is 00:11:57 the same record label that had a million dollar insurance policy on Bobby Fuller? So, who killed Bobby Fuller? We know exactly who, and we know why. And you're going to find out in the next episode of Disgraced Land. That's coming next week. Our next new episode of Disgrace Land on Fuller right after the Astor World episode. When you're listening to our Bobby Fuller story, be thinking about who benefited most from Bobby Fuller's death. Let us know who you think killed Bobby Fuller. Let us know if you think I got it nailed down. I'm pretty confident in our angle on this story. But I want to know what you think after you hear it. Give us a call 617-90666-6-36-3-8 with your answers. And you might hear yourself in next week's after-party bonus episode.
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Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, we are back, 617-90666338. We're talking David Crosby. We're talking supergroups. We're talking all kinds of stuff. Let's go to John in the 805. Hey, Jake.
Starting point is 00:14:50 This is John from the 805 here in Pismore Beach, California. David Crosby actually lived right down the freeway in San Anas last probably 20 years of July because it makes sense over the hill at Santa Barbara Marina where it's full of sailboats. So anyways, David Crosby once said that the greatest harmonies in a band were the band Venice, from Venice, California. Look them up again, Venice from Venice, California. You would know their voices separately in all kinds of recordings, but to you can't dinner, their band, Venice is kind of unknown to people outside of California.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Have a great one. Keep it up. Love the stuff. Thank you so much. John, thanks for the call, man. I've never heard of Venice, the group, ever. Harmony Singers, nope, got nothing. This is awesome. It's rare that this happens, so I appreciate it. I'm going to check them out. I'll get back to you, let you know what I think. Appreciate the call, John. We had our Blink 182 episode at the top of the feed early this week. Sunday in our rewind slot, excuse me. This message comes from the 530. Hey, Jake. Just calling in about the whole alien thing. This is why I need a disclosure to happen because when I was like 13, so maybe like 2003, yeah, me and my friends saw an alien standing at the edge of the woods when he was walking
Starting point is 00:16:16 me home. This is Lake Tahoe in the wintertime, like five feet of snow on the ground. There's probably like 50 feet away, but we froze, it froze, and we stared each other down for like what felt like forever. And then it eventually just turned and walked away back into the darkness of the woods. There's like 18 miles of forest behind my house. And we hauled the ass back to my house. My friend's mom came and picked them up. We never really talked about it much again. I think we both were just so baffled, but also like, who the fuck do you tell? You know? I mean, it's so convenient the way that it looked because, I mean, just classic alien shape, probably close to seven feet tall. Like, I was looking for seams to see if it was a costume, couldn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I had, like, 2018 vision at the time, so really good vision. I was blown away. I'm not really a person who is, like, super into that stuff, so it also was really frustrating to me that I saw something It's like, man, did I have to see that? Now I know. But, you know, people can think what they want. I don't know what to say. That's all.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But take care and just, yeah, know that they're out there. Stay out of the woods, maybe. 5-30, stay out of the woods. Appreciate your call. Yeah, it's wild. It's wild that you say, it's not so much wild that you say that you saw this. To me, it's more interesting when you talk about how you and your friend didn't really discuss this much.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I've seen things in my life that I'm hesitant to talk about, and I saw this thing with my mom when I was younger, and it was so scary that the two of us, up until probably the last couple of years, up until honestly I got into researching the Tom DeLong thing, we never talked about it. It was just a thing that was there, and the more time passed on,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and the more time there was between the present in that event, when I was probably five years old, the more incredible and unreal it seemed. So it became even less likely to be spoken about. But when I got into, again, this whole research around Tom DeLong, I read a book, a great book that I highly recommend called American Cosmos by Diane Pasulka. And she talks about how she's an academic and she's a scholar and she's not one of these people who have made their lives sort of in the, you know, the disclosure slash UFO, UAP industry. It's a scholarly book, and she talks about how media has been designed, perhaps, this is a
Starting point is 00:19:09 theory of hers, over the last 50 or so years or since Roswell, really, to discredit anyone who thinks they may have seen something. And I know that sounds like, yeah, no, duh, but the way she on impacts it when you really get into it. You start to really kind of question the validity around the doubters, not so much questioning the validity around people who have experienced things like yourself. Fascinating call 530. I appreciate it. I got a bunch on supergroup stuff. I'm going to get into more of that. This one comes from where are we going here? Oh, 7-8-1, back in Massachusetts. Let's go to the 7-8-1. Jake, it's Frank from the 7-8-1. Love the podcast. I think I've listened to every
Starting point is 00:19:52 episode, especially when I'm walking my dog. But the question about the greatest supergroups of all time, I just had to mention the Black Crows with Jimmy Page at the Greek, one of the greatest shows of all time, and one that
Starting point is 00:20:07 the only band that could pull off a Led Zeppelin-style tribute concert would be Chris Robinson and the Black Crowes. So that's my boat, man. Talk to you soon. Take care. Well, that ended up
Starting point is 00:20:22 being a supergroup call. And Frank, I am absolutely here for it. I love this album. I have a copy of it on vinyl. I've been into it since it came out. I know people, though, who hate this record, who hate this collaboration, friends of mine with great, great music tastes. These cannot get into it, but I am absolutely here for it. It's fucking unbelievably great. It rocks. I'm actually going to listen to it today, Frank. Thank you for reminding me. And you know, you might think, yeah, Black Crows, Chris Robinson's kind of like a Rod Stewart, Mick Jagger, kind of take on things. What's he doing fucking around with Led Zeppelin? But I'm just telling you, like, Jimmy Page is on stage with them by choice.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And this thing cooks. It cooks all the way through. Fantastic album. Frank, thanks for reminding me of it. More supergroup talk a la David Crosby. This one comes from the 909. Jake, my favorite supergroup is a band that never recorded and they only played together
Starting point is 00:21:24 one time. The Dirty Mac. You should look them up. Thanks for the great show, Rockerola. All right, 909. Very familiar with the Dirty Mac from Rock and Roll Circus, the Rolling Stones movie. This is John Lennon,
Starting point is 00:21:43 Eric Clapton, Keith Richards on bass, Keith Moon on drums, correct? Is that right? Keith Moon on drums? No, Mitch Mitchell. I was wrong about that. Okay, so yeah, it's fantastic. And what do they play? Your Blues?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Is that the song they go through? I believe it is. Beatles song, John Lennon's song. So I guess they kind, they didn't record on album, but they do that live thing there from Rock and Roll Circus. There's a friend of mine recorded Elliot Smith there toward the end of his life doing a version of this song with John Spencer Blues Explosion, backing him up.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Which, I don't know that that's ever seen. in the light of day, but it was sort of his tribute to the Dirty Mac. Appreciate you, 909. Thank you so much. Great Supergroup, great Supergroup suggestion. 714, got another Dirty Mac. Rec from the 714-619. Texts in, hey, I have to go with Cream for a Supergroup.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I know it's the obvious choice. I'm aware that you don't have much love for Eric Clapton, but the band's brief run is undeniable, and Ginger Baker is, slash, was an absolute maniac, and a true master at playing the dress. Trump's guy had the respective jazz legends like Art Blakey, Max Roach, and Elvin Jones. Not bad. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm not going to deny Cream. Cream's awesomeness. Sean from Cleveland writes in, hey, for the question of the week, all-star lineups, I have to go with Traveling Wilburys. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Sean. This has got to be, I don't even think of them as a supergroup because they're just, they're just, I don't know. They're their own thing.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They're singular almost in a way. The traveling Wilburys, Sean goes on to say. say you have a Beatle, a rock pioneer, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, Velvet Revolver, even though it was a disaster. He wanted the top vocalist in rock and one of the best guitar and drummers of all time. Finally, Derek and the Dominoes are Clapton already famous for being two famous rock bands, the yard birds in Cream, Dwayne Allman, and Jim Gordon as well. You're absolutely right. Clapton just always seemed like a guy who wanted to join a band, man. He just wanted to be in a band. He didn't want the burden of being, you know, Clapton has got.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's kind of always on the hunt. Wanted to be in the band, like the actual band. that whole thing. Susan and Ron in the 615 write in supergroups. Hubby and I
Starting point is 00:23:56 had to debate this one, my first choice, the firm, hubby's choice, damn Yankees. But after much debate, we went with cream
Starting point is 00:24:03 or the traveling Wilburys. Susan, let your hubby know that the firm was the first real concert I saw.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I'd seen the Ramones in a club prior to this, but the firm I saw at the Worcester Centrum in the fifth grade. My dad took me.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Jimmy Pays. Up there on stage. Not bad. I was blown away. The light show was fucking mind-blowing. GW. and the 250-O. Hey, Jay, considering famous supergroups, mine has to be them crooked vultures. Only one album run.
Starting point is 00:24:32 But damn, Josh Homey, Dave Grohl, and John Paul Jones made some good music. They absolutely did. You're absolutely right. Bex checking in from the 410. Her recommendation on a supergroup, The Highway Women with Brandy Carlyle, Natalie Hemby, Marin Morris, and Amanda Shires.
Starting point is 00:24:50 for all the different takes on biolpics. Always learning something new here. You got it, you got it, Bex. C.C. and the 585 writes in, hey, rep in the 303 from the 585. So, well-known supergroup, not so well-known supergroup, excuse me, that C-C's writing us about,
Starting point is 00:25:07 is Oysterhead, Trey Anastasio, Fish on guitar, Les Claypool from Primus on bass, and Stuart Copeland, from the police on drums. They only toured in 2001, but they made a few of those shows, and they were worth it, especially at the Roseland Ballroom.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Love the new season. Can't believe I get to say, go Bills. Rockerola, C.C. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go Bills. We'll see you. We'll see you in January there, C.C. I like our chances, despite our awful first game out in Seattle. So listen, guys, be like the rest of your discos here.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Get at me next week. Voicemail and text. I want to know who you think killed. Bobby Fuller. Am I circling the drain, as they say? Okay? Is that what they say? I feel like I'm fucking up my analogy there. Do I have it nailed down? I think I do. It's one of rock and roll's greatest music mysteries. And I, you know, with all humility, I think I got it figured out. I think a lot of people had to figure it out. They're just afraid to say it. But it's there. You're going to hear it. Soon you're going to even see it. There's a little hint for you. All right. What else? You know,
Starting point is 00:26:18 you might want to just talk about murder mysteries and music, music mysteries in general. I'm here for those questions as well. You want to broaden the mystery of music history beyond the Bobby Fuller of it all. Give me a call. I'm here for it 617-9066668 voicemail and text. Now, since about the 1990s, home recording has been an acceptable form of music making in the music industry. And nowadays, most artists take advantage of modern technology to record from the comfort of their home studios, even from their bedrooms. But one of the first musicians to do this did so way back in 1961 with a song you've heard a million times. I fought the law by Bobby Fuller. And back in the early 60s, Bobby Fuller didn't have the benefit of modern technology that makes home recordings so easy.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Bobby Fuller from El Paso, Texas, wanted to be the next buddy Holly. So he started out recording music the only way he could in his bedroom. And he then turned his parents' modest suburban home into his own recording studio, complete with his own custom echo chamber. Bobby also cut a hole in his parents' living room wall so that he could see through from the makeshift studio control room into the makeshift studio live room. Bobby Fuller cut the original version of I Fought the Law and a home studio that he built in his parents' house
Starting point is 00:27:39 long before home recording was accepted in the music industry. Now, this song led to Bobby getting a breakout in Hollywood, Hollywood. And that, of course, led to one of the most mysterious deaths in music history, the unsolved death of Bobby Fuller. And it all started back with that home recording. And you're going to hear about all of this in the next full episode of disgrace land coming your way next week, right after our rewind on what are we talking about? AstroWorld. All right. Take a quick break. Back in flash. All right, guys, Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Let's get into your email straight away. This one comes from D in the 613.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Hey, apparently not everyone considers them a supergroup, but non-soundgarden guys were in Mother Lovebone before Pearl Jam was even a thing. So I'm going with Temple of the Dog. I'm a huge Chris Cornell fan, and this album has some of his best vocal work. The songs are raw, powerful, and haunting hunger strike is my favorite song of all time.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And it still gives me chills whenever I listen to it. Love the Pod. Dee from the 613. Dee, appreciate you. I love Chris Cornell. I miss him. I miss him. I've been listening a lot lately.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I've been listening to the first Soundgarden album, the SST record, Big Dumb Sex. That song is just incredible. Incredible. Came up in the Reggie Watts research that I'm doing. And just awesome. You guys love talking super groups. This one comes from Matt and the 204.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Hey, and reply to your question on best supergroups, I would suggest me first in the gimmie gimmies with members from Lagwagon, Rocket from the Crip, bad religion, foo fighters, Ramones, and no effects, just to name a few. Really legendary punk rock supergroup, although all of their music are cover songs and different genres. To me, they are undeniably original and unique. Thanks for all the great work.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Keep fit and have fun. You got it, Matt. This was Shifflett's band, right? From Food Fighters? I think it was. And Rocket from the Crip, man. Thanks for mentioning them. One of the best live shows I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Just unbelievable. Middle East, downstairs. Mind blowing. Matt, are you a drive like Jayhu fan? get me up. What's better? Yank crime or what was the other one? One and two. I could never remember. I could never decide which album I like better the first or the second. And I always was a drive like Jayhu over a rocket from the Crip guy, but then I switched. Now I'm a rocket from the Crip guy. I don't know. That's just me. Time. Time changes us. That's what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:30:19 Matt. You know who's not changed by time? John Cusack. No, I kid. He is. But John Cusack is unbelievable. And we unpacked a lot about ourselves in the recording of our current, this film should be played loud that's on Gross Point Blank. I realized that my young adulthood, my early 20s, I was really just mirroring John Cusack roles. Zeth and I get into that and this film should be played loud. I can't wait for you guys to see this new one. We cut it last night. We filmed it last night. Gross point blank is amazing. And the soundtrack, it might be one of the best soundtracks we've covered in all of these episodes. This film should be played loud episodes. This film should be played loud is our video podcast on the best music from the best movies,
Starting point is 00:31:10 best movie soundtracks. It's a video podcast. You can watch it on Patreon. Go to disgraceandpod.com to become an all-access member and to sign up. You'll cop that as well as other exclusive content, like the conversation that Zeth and I are going to be having. Later here, coming up very soon, it's very music, it's very true crime. We're talking Robin Thick bank robbery, right? You're fucking kidding me? I'm not apparently. I don't know anything about this.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Zeth is going to turn me on, Dead Man, as he says. Speaking of Zep, the Hollywoodland feed is cooking. Lots of new followers, subscribers. Appreciate you guys. We had our Sharon Stone episode Rewound this week for you over there. Zeth has the new rap party episode. with my recommendations, my music recommendations, his film recommendations. Screening Room coming at you tomorrow, Zeth is covering Martin Scorsese's casino, which is perfect
Starting point is 00:32:05 because I'm going to Vegas this weekend. And that'll be a little travel accompaniment for me listening to Zeth's Hollywood Screening Room episode. Make sure you guys are subscribe to Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, IHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. So without further ad-de, me and Zethexie, giving a little discuss on on Alan Thick, Robin Thick, excuse me, Robin Thick and the bank robbery.
Starting point is 00:32:33 We get into some more stuff as well. More music, more true crime. Coming up, you want to be part of this conversation. Go to disgracehandpod.com to sign up. All right, I'll be back after this. All right, we are back. I'm ready to split, but before I get out of here,
Starting point is 00:32:56 just want to thank all of you, okay? I want to thank all the old listeners who have been here since day one. I want to thank the ones who came in, I don't know, maybe four or five years ago and they've been hanging with me, come in and out. And then we got some new listeners.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I want to thank you guys as well. Okay, I mentioned John Denver in this episode. I mentioned Mama Cass in this episode. We have episodes on both. We mentioned Chris Cornell. We got episodes on Chris Cornell. Jimmy Page, we got a Led Zeppelin episode. A couple of them, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Listen, Matt is going to put the episode information for a handful of those shows I just mentioned in the show notes of this bonus episode to help you navigate our massive archive of stories. If you're into an artist, the chances are we've done an episode on them. Okay, so check that out. Let's recap, and I've got to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Number one, this week, our new episode on David Crosby is available for you to check out right now. And the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode on Travis Scott. Next week, coming up, our next new episode. That's going to be on Bobby Fuller, and boy, howdy, am I excited about that? Zeth is giving you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland. Make sure you're subscribed. Let's watch Casino this weekend together. We'll talk about it next week, all right?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Over in Hollywoodland. Number five, this film should be played. loud our video podcast. We got an episode right now available for you on liquorish pizza. We get another one coming up end of this month on gross point blank. That'll be hit in September 23rd. Go to disgrace landpod.com to sign up coming all access. Remember, you get to join the community chat as well with the rest of the discos. Talk music, talk movies, talk crime. Number 6-1-7-9-06666-3-8. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling. Keep texting with your answers to this week's question the week or with whatever else you want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community. A community is obsessed and no one cares about music, books, records in the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, back on November 28, 1985, David Crosby hired a plane to fly him across the country to escape the law. He fought the law. He did not win. And this is what America was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard charts. Number one, Miami Vice theme, Jan Hammer. Last week, two, peak position. One, weeks on chart, 10. Number two, part time.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Lover, Stevie Wonder. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, 10. Number three, head over heels, tears for fears. Last week, four. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart, nine.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Number four, you belong to the city, Glenn Fry. Last week, six. Peak position, four. Weak's on chart. Last night. Number five. We built this. We've built this.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Stop. We quit talking and start mixing. Cut it! Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. The Dream of the 90s is alive in podcast form. We're launching Podlandia, A.O. rewatch, our brand new podcast where we revisit every episode of Portlandia together.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Breaking down sketches, going deep on our iconic characters, and pulling back the curtain on how it all got made. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysall, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song about it. Well, I thought you were all going to write a song.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia, AEO, rewatch on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 3 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous situation that destroyed two families. It's a scorched earth war that shows just how far someone will go to get what they want. Cindy said I had to choose between the truth and my family, and I had to choose the truth. Listen to Season 3 of Burden of Guilt on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Thank you.

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