DISGRACELAND - Lana Del Rey: Three Dark Stories Inspired by an American Risk Taker (Rewind)

Episode Date: July 5, 2026

Illicit romance. An abduction. An international manhunt. Starlets, sex appeal, and psychopaths. Sexual liberation and a scandalous story that’s almost too scandalous to talk about. These are som...e of the dark stories inspired by Lana Del Rey, an artist who doesn’t fit into a box, and whose music and image are as evocative and compelling as the myth she’s built around herself. This episode contains themes that may be disturbing to some listeners, including child sexual abuse and domestic violence. To see the full list of contributors, see the show notes at www.disgracelandpod.com. This episode was originally published on August 27, 2024. To listen to Disgraceland ad free and get access to a monthly exclusive episode, weekly bonus content and more, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram YouTube X (formerly Twitter)  Facebook Fan Group  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is exactly right. Elvis. Betrayal Weekly is back with brand new stories. From threatening text messages disturbing a small Midwestern town. It was from an unknown number. Who else is getting these messages? Why did it start with us? To long cons and stolen identities.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Who lies about being this sick? This was the last time I ever believed a word she said. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro,
Starting point is 00:00:52 and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:01:10 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you live in L.A., you already spend about 89% of your life in a car. So we turned it into a podcast. On Do You Need a Ride, we pick up our comedian friends, drive around Los Angeles, and discuss what's happening in the world around us. Cars are very rude to bicyclists, but in this case, it's a bicyclist going out of his way to get in the way of traffic. All you did was roll your window down. He almost hit that.
Starting point is 00:01:36 It's like a talk show, but going 30 miles an hour. New episodes every Monday on the Exactly Right Network. Listen to Do You Need a Ride on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Disco's, welcome back to the archive. I wanted to tell a story about Lana Del Rey just because I'm kind of fascinated by Lana Del Rey. This episode came out back in August of 2024, about a month before Lana Del Rey got married. So that was some news that happened after this episode was released. So she's so polarizing, right?
Starting point is 00:02:10 People love her. Her fandom is super strong. People obviously have an emotional connection with Lana Del Rey, but people also cannot stand Lana Del Rey. And these are my favorite types of artists. I love Kim Gordon, but I love that Kim Gordon
Starting point is 00:02:27 can't stand Lana Del Rey. But at the same time, I can appreciate Lana Del Rey. And I was really interested in true crime stories from the past that are connected to the whole world, the imagery, the visual world, not just the musical world, that Lana Del Rey has built. And I thought that was a really interesting way to get into her story and to tell her story
Starting point is 00:02:51 in a way that would satisfy myself, fans of Lana Del Rey, and detractors. So with all that said, I hope you dig this episode. It's one of my favorites. Matt Bowden did a great job mixing this episode, scoring this episode as well. just really, really fantastic. So without further ado, here is Lana Del Rey. This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners. Please check the show notes for more information.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Disgrace Land is a production of Double Elvis. This is a story about one of the most compelling musical artists in modern times. It's also a story about an illicit underage romance, an abduction, and an international manhunt about sexual liberation in a scandalous story that is almost too scandalous to talk about. It's a story about a starlet, sex appeal, and psychopaths. And it's also about an artist who doesn't fit into a box, Lana Del Rey, a musician who makes great music. Unlike that music I played for you at the top of the show, that wasn't great music.
Starting point is 00:04:12 That was a preset loop. from my Melotron, called Yacht Funk MK2. I played you that loop because I can't afford the rights to We Found Love by Rihanna featuring Calvin Harris. And why would I play you that specific slice of hopeless cheese could I afford it? Because that was the number one song in America on January 31st, 2012, and that was the day that Lana Del Rey released her debut studio album. An album that announced a new artist who wasn't afraid to risk it,
Starting point is 00:04:48 to create her own playbook and do it her own way. Not how anyone else expected or told her to. On this episode, Elicit Romance, an international manhunt, Starlets, Psychopaths, Three Dark Stories, and Lana Del Rey. I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland. The title of this episode is Three Dark Stories inspired by Lana Del Rey. Because Lana's music and image are as evocative and compelling as the myth that she's built around her. While researching Lana Del Rey the artist or Elizabeth Grant, that's Lana's birth name, the person,
Starting point is 00:06:05 I naturally learned more about what inspired her, 20th century Americana, classic noir, melancholia, romanticism, and the enduring legacy of the American risk-taker. Throughout this discovery, I found myself continually prompted to explore the stories of other fascinating women whose histories I may not have otherwise been interested in were it not for Lana Del Rey's powerful songs and visual imagery. These things inspired me, drove my curiosity, in unearthed three incredibly scandalous and true stories
Starting point is 00:06:43 about three incredibly scandalous and truly fascinating women. Lana Turner, Catherine the Great, and Megan Stammers. Each of their stories seemed to me to be ripped straight from the lyrics of a Lana Del Rey song. Now, this episode might have been titled Three Dark Stories That Inspired Lana Del Rey because given how well-read and history-minded Lana Del Rey is, it's easy to see how the songwriter could have heard these stories I'm about to tell, tell you, and been inspired herself to weave them into her songs. But I can't say that with any certainty because Lana Del Rey, like all great artists,
Starting point is 00:07:22 isn't particularly forthcoming regarding her lyrics. She keeps it mysterious, which I appreciate, because it allows us to sit back and consider the artist her music and her image more deeply. The mystery compels us to dream. And let's be honest, Lana Del Rey's music has a certain dream-like quality. to it. On January 31st, 2012, Lana Del Rey released her debut major label album, Born to Die. As part of the recording of this album, there is an unreleased track entitled Lolita, which is, of course, a reference to the famous Vladimir Novakov novel from 1955 of the same name. In the inspiration behind the Stanley Kubrick film adaptation, the one with the iconic imagery of actress Sue Lyon and those cherry red heart shaped sunglasses on the movie poster. The same heart-shaped sunglasses
Starting point is 00:08:20 Lana Del Rey sang about on another unreleased song, the demo, Every Man Gets His Wish, which contains the lyrics, He loves my heart-shaped sunglasses. He loves the shape my heart-shaped ass is. The Lolita theme is one that Lana
Starting point is 00:08:39 has played with numerous times in numerous songs and videos throughout her career. It's also the subject of many think-piece and message board threads throughout Reddit in the Lanaverse. Novakov's Lolita character is very much the victim. She's a 12-year-old girl who has taken advantage of by an obsessed, out-of-work male teacher. But the Lolita characters Lana Del Rey depicts
Starting point is 00:09:04 are knowing, willing participants in the illicit romances they're entangled in. And at least in Lana's depictions, these young women are not without agency. In yet another unreleased Lana Del Rey song, Prom Song, Gone Wrong, the lyrics go, I knew you loved me by the way you looked in second period. I'd see you in the halls like, hello, hello, up against the wall, like, let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And then in another song entitled Boarding School, Lana sings, Let's Do Drugs, Make Love with our Teachers. Boarding School was Kent School in Connecticut. Where, if we're to believe the myth, Lana Del Rey was sent to attend as a 14-year-old, in part to overcome her alcoholism and bad girl behavioral issues. Lana graduated in 2003. Of her time there, she has spoken about an older man, a teacher who had an outsized influence on her.
Starting point is 00:10:07 A man by the name of Jean Campbell, whom Lana says was her only friend in school, a time when she was excessively lonely. He was 22. She was 15. He'd drive her around in his car and turned her on to music and literature she'd never heard or heard of.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Tupac, Biggie, Whitman, and Novakoff. Lana has said about this teacher, quote, We read Lolita, and it changed my world, unquote. Neither Lana nor her teacher has confirmed or denied any inappropriate relationship. but Lana's quotes don't exactly depict a helpless Lolita. They describe a curious, literary-minded young girl, perhaps dangerously infatuated,
Starting point is 00:10:56 much like another young girl, a 14-year-old student from East Sussex, England, named Megan Stammers. There's no way for me to know whether Lana Del Rey is aware of the incredible story of Megan Stammers, or if Megan's story inspired Lana in any of. way or whether Megan was inspired by Lana's Lolita fascination, but you can be the judge. In 2012, 14-year-old Megan Stammers was a normal sophomore at the Bishop Bell School in Coastal England. She listened to music, kept up with her studies, and exchanged crushes
Starting point is 00:11:35 with boys her own age. Then she got caught up in an obsessive and illicit romance with her 30-year-old math professor, Jeremy Forrest. Jeremy was, by 14-year-old girl standards, the cool professor. He had a tattoo. He was into Nirvana. He fumbled through the chords of heart-shaped box on acoustic guitar. He even got up on stage locally for the occasional gig, where he mumbled what we can only assume he believed to be witty lyrics for songs titled,
Starting point is 00:12:06 All My Friends Are Astronauts and Arrows and Hearts. Megan was smitten. Jeremy showed her extra attention on a school trip. Megan couldn't believe that this older, mature, seemingly worldly man would be interested in her. She was obsessed. She needed to know everything about him. She followed him on Twitter, and he followed her back. And soon, through direct messages, they had a separate line of communication outside of the classroom.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And it was through that separate and direct line of communication that Megan received an invitation from Jeremy to go on a drive. And that drive led to deep conversations. Well, as deep as a 14-year-old and a 30-year-old can get, I guess. But Megan felt seen. And up to this point, Megan had developed an eating disorder and hadn't told anyone but Jeremy. And Jeremy apparently knew just what to say to Megan
Starting point is 00:13:06 to make her feel better about her situation. The drive turned into subsequent drives, which turned into long walks by the ocean in the seaside town where Megan went to school. And those walks eventually led to a first kiss, just after Megan's 15th birthday, to her teacher, a man twice her age. Jeremy somehow convinced his wife that it was okay for Megan, his student, to hang around the house to watch TV, do her homework, and listen to music. Jeremy convinced Megan that he was on the outs with his wife and that his marriage would soon be over. It was in Jeremy and his wife's spare bedroom where the teacher first had sex with the 15-year-old student. That act, and the subsequent times they had sex, only increased Megan's obsession with her teacher. As she recounted the story, that time in her life was a romantic blur of, quote,
Starting point is 00:14:05 car rides, kisses, and out-of-town cinema trips, unquote. Car rides, kisses, and cinema. Sounds like images from Alana del Rey Vidia. Megan described this point in her relationship with Jeremy as the point at which their escape fantasy took hold. They dreamed lovingly of a life outside of the town where they lived and worked and where everyone knew them to a place where they could live in love anonymously
Starting point is 00:14:33 despite their age difference, and they settled on France. Back in school, of course, the rumors started to fly. And then the police took an interest. Then they questioned Megan and her mother, and then they questioned Jeremy and his wife. The writing was on the wall. The pieces started to click into place for Megan's friends and family, and the same went for Jeremy's colleagues.
Starting point is 00:15:00 All that time that the teacher was spending with that young girl, Of course, how would they not see it? Judgment would be swift. From Megan's point of view, the fact that she loved Jeremy would have nothing to do with how authorities treated the situation. Jeremy would go to jail, and Jeremy couldn't have that, so Jeremy and Megan went on the run. Like some modern-day Bonnie and Clyde,
Starting point is 00:15:28 inspired not by bank vault riches but by the illicit romance of Navacost, Lolita. Megan and Jeremy racing through the night, away from that dreary English town and off to France. The trajectory of Megan's young love life begins with her on an East Sussex beach, like Lana Del Rey in the music video for her song, West Coast, twirling on that beach with an age-appropriate crush, and then off into the dark, fleeing in the passenger seat of a vampiric older man's car,
Starting point is 00:16:01 like Lana Del Rey in her shades of cool video. Megan being driven off toward an uncertain future, the romance of it all compelling her. The missing schoolgirl and the 30-year-old teacher who abducted her triggered an international manhunt in September of 2012. It took only seven days for authorities to find Megan and Jeremy in the French city of Bordeaux. Their short-lived life on the run ended with Jeremy's arrest and Megan's return to her parents. Jeremy got five and a half years in prison. But the sentencing didn't quell Megan's romance. She wrote Jeremy multiple love letters that were intercepted by prison authorities.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And Megan even attempted to visit Jeremy in jail, but she was denied. Megan blamed herself for Jeremy's incarceration, saying that she initiated the relationship and suggested they'd run away together. It's funny what inspiration will do. As young adults, we see ourselves in the songs and in the books that we listen to and read. It's fantasy. It's escapism. Megan Stammer's obsession was inspired and was definitely misplaced, regardless of where it came from.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Be it Nirvana's heart-shaped box or Lana Del Rey and Lolita's heart-shaped sunglasses. And gold tickets to Il-Sonek. Dom Dalla, Chris Lakin, Friends, Woolie, Deadmouse, above and beyond, subfocus, and more. With flights from Porter Airlines, three nights at Residence in downtown Montreal, and $1,000 cash. Enter for your chance to win at iHeartRadio.ca. Ilsonique in Montreal, every day you enter is another chance to win.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stun. stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive, because
Starting point is 00:19:05 I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Betrayal Weekly is back with brand new stories from threatening text messages disturbing a small Midwestern town. It was from an unknown number. Who else is getting these messages?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Why did it start with us? To long cons and stolen identities. Who lies about being this sick? This was the last time I ever believed a word she said. New voices, each with the courage to tell their own story. He said, I have been kidnapped. Okay, just trying out normal. He was essentially on the run.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Every family has secrets. The rug had been pulled from underneath me. Oh my God. It was right in front of my face and I didn't even see it. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lana Del Rey enters the pool in slow motion in a retro one-piece bathing suit. It's a sexually charged moment in a music video filled with sexually charged moments. Lama's video for her 2012 single, Blue Jeans.
Starting point is 00:20:48 There's her lover, tall, thin, cut, fully illustrated in the flesh with tattoos everywhere over his hands and face. He strips down to his underwear before taking to the pool himself. His tattooed hand reaches for Lana's neck, but then she takes his fingers into her mouth. The couple acts as though they're all alone in that pool, but they aren't. There's an alligator swimming below them. Lana is unfazed. Great sex, like great art, is sometimes a risk. As the video continues, Lana breaks from her lover
Starting point is 00:21:32 and swims with the alligator beneath the surface. She rise in her bathing suit, pressing her flesh against the animal's long, jagged tail. The interpretation is that the violent-looking illustrated man is enough. Only the savage man-eating beast can satiate. Lana Del Rey is myth-building. The symbolism of the hinted bestiality, that power dynamic, inspired me to wonder what
Starting point is 00:22:04 Lana Del Rey's thoughts, if any, might have been during the making of this video, about one of the most powerful women of all time, Catherine the Great, and the mythology surrounding that particular royal sexual appetite and one of the most scandalous rumored. of all time. It was July, and it was hot, a rare early summer heat wave in St. Petersburg, the seat of the Russian Empire in 1796. The young man waited in the apartment located inside the palace.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He was unsure what to do with himself in his new home. He was even unsure about how long this would be his new home. All he knew was that he could live here indefinitely, and he could do whatever he wanted so long as he made himself available at all times sexually to the empress who lived in the adjacent apartment. The young man had not yet met the empress known as Catherine the Great. He'd only met her countess. An encounter he enjoyed very much despite the countess's age.
Starting point is 00:23:09 She put the young man through his sexual paces. It was thrilling being with an older woman who knew exactly what she wanted and how to get it. The Countess wasn't as old as the Empress, though. The Empress was 67. The Countess's job was to give the young man a trial run to see if he was up to satisfying the Empress. And that meant two things, size and stamina. The young man passed his royal audition on both counts.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So here sat this virile young man in his new apartment pondering the rumors he'd heard about his new lover, the Empress of Russia, whom he'd never met. The rumors that she was insatiable, that she demanded sex up to seven times a day, that the empress, if it pleased her, would make a cast of his elephant-time penis and use that to satisfy her on occasion as well, on those days when he, her young lover, wasn't able to keep up with her. What was true about the empress and what was myth wasn't all that hard for the young man to sort out.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Much of what Catherine the Great had accomplished in her 67 years was already part of the modern historical record. She married into the royal family and outsmarted and some say overthrew her dim-witted sexually inadequate and sadistic animal-torturing husband Peter III. Peter couldn't perform sexually. Every time he got hard, he experienced excruciating pain. He took that pain out on helpless animals, dogs, and cats, dismembering them for fun, relishing the pain he inflicted. Catherine mercilessly deposed him and set about to remake the Russian Empire in her own image. She conquered new lands. In the south, she annexed Crimea and colonized large swaths of land
Starting point is 00:25:00 for strategic outposts to fend off the Ottomans. She partitioned Poland and moved as far east as Alaska. She modernized much of Russia in lockstep with Western European progress. She was an early advocate of the smallpox vaccine, which saved countless lives. She was a patron of the arts, a correspondent and a confidon of Voltaire, one of the great writers and thinkers of the day. And Catherine the Great acquired and wielded this great power while tearing through an extensive line of lovers, beautiful and sometimes powerful men, whom she betted not only for sexual conquest but sometimes for strategic purposes as well.
Starting point is 00:25:39 generals and nobles who helped quell palace coups and put down regional uprisings. The older Catherine got, the younger her lovers got, as a young man waiting dutifully in his new apartment well knew. She was insatiable. Youthful vigor was necessary to satisfy the aging empress and her satisfaction didn't go unrewarded. Many, upon being discarded after fulfilling their duties, were rewarded handsomely for their efforts, but always materially, never with any real power, cash, servants, homes, but never with anything that would diminish Catherine's reign in any way. From where the young man sat, it was tough to judge the sexual rumors surrounding Catherine. They called her a deviant, but really, was any of her behavior worse than what was whispered
Starting point is 00:26:33 about the men who'd reigned previously here in Russia or elsewhere? The Ottoman Emperor, Ibrahim the Mad, was said to have had a harem of 280 women. On a whim one day, he decided he was bored, so he had them all executed. Then he took their skin and sewed them into sacks. Rome's emperor Caligula was said to have been infatuated with all three of his sisters, each of whom he slept with. And King Herod, that story was possibly the most disturbing. As it goes, he was supposedly done.
Starting point is 00:27:07 driven so mad with jealousy by his wife Miriam that he had her killed, then preserved her dead body in honey and proceeded to have sex with it for seven more years after his wife died. So what if Catherine the Great made her armed guards erect and paraded them past her for an expensive thrill? So what if she had replications of her favorite past lover's cocks carved into her wood furniture? So what if the empress found herself dissatisfied with all of her lovers after a lifetime of sex on demand, numerous times per day, every day. And so what if Catherine the Great eventually turned away from men for satisfaction in favor of a horse?
Starting point is 00:27:51 The 67-year-old empress lay there on the bed, fully exhilarated. The bed had been brought down from one of the royal apartments into the barn adjacent to the stables. Then the horse suspended above her on straps. was being carefully lowered by a group of muscular royal guards. The horse's member was larger. I can't do it. I won't do it as much as I want to do it. I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'm not going to dramatize the death of Catherine the Great, crushed by the horse she was attempting to copulate with. But that is the story, or rather the myth, that this 67-year-old woman, one of the most powerful women the world has ever known, died in one of the most scandalous ways possible. I don't believe it. It's too lurid and honestly too out of character. Catherine the Great may have been insatiable,
Starting point is 00:28:47 but unlike King Herod, Caligula and Emperor Ibrahim the Mad, Catherine wasn't deranged. Her actions indicate quite the opposite. She may have been ruthless at times, but she was measured, thoughtful, and strategic. All qualities that contravene, arrangement. Catherine the Great was not just a powerful woman in an age when powerful women were few and far between. She was a beacon of independence, standing tall and strong in a world designed
Starting point is 00:29:17 to suppress women. Beyond her power, she was truly independent and sexually liberated, a testament to her strength and resilience. Catherine the Great died of a stroke, likely on her toilet, but that story wasn't scandalous enough. The rumors of her shocking demise with the horrors and of her so-called sexual deviancy are, in my opinion, nothing more than a historical smear campaign by jealous and petty men from that era, aimed at discrediting one of the most accomplished women of all time.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Catherine the Great's reign should not be fodder for discrediting myths. The Empress's illustrious reign should instead inspire free-thinking women everywhere, as I believe it did Lana Del Rey, a woman who has been hell-bent on making her own myth since bursting on the scene with a borrowed name from another powerful woman.
Starting point is 00:30:12 A woman with ties to another incredible story. This one also very scandalous, but this time, very true. We'll be right back after this world, word, word. You end up hell with weekend gold tickets to Lassau Montreal. Thomas Rett. Mumford and Sons Well here's my pride
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Starting point is 00:31:15 It was from an unknown number. Who else is getting these messages? Why did it start with us? To long cons and stolen identities. Who lies about being this sick? This was the last time I ever believed the word she said. New voices, each with the courage to tell their own story. He said, I have been kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Okay, just trying out normal. He was essentially on the run. Every family has secrets. The rug had been pulled from underneath me. Oh my God. It was right in front of my face and I didn't even see it. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be a third. exploring the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our
Starting point is 00:32:35 identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lana Turner was so hot that men literally walked into walls when they saw her walking down Hollywood Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:33:16 They drove off of the boulevard and crashed their cars into walls, and they flocked to movie theaters in droves to gawk at the curvy, blonde starlet, and imagined themselves alone with her for only a few seconds. This was due to Lana Turner's natural beauty and how director Mervyn Leroy chose to capture her with his camera in her first appearance on screen in his 1937 film, They Won't Forget. The director filmed the actress very deliberately in a way that accentuated her body, which seems so obvious these days that it's not even worth mentioning,
Starting point is 00:33:54 but in 1937, it was revolutionary. Sydney Sweeney, Margot Robbie, Scarlett Johansson, Kim Kardashian, hell, even Lana Delray, pick your modern-day A-list sex symbol. And believe me, when it comes to their impact, none of them have their grip on the collective male libido like Lana Turner did back in the 40s and 50s. And this is the woman Lana Del Rey chose to take her stage name from. When choosing a stage name, Lana Del Rey had a vision. She said she, quote, wanted a name she could shape the music towards.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Del Rey is taken from the name of a car, two cars actually, but that's not important. The point is that Del Rey sounds American and Lana sounds, well, hot. Lana Turner's hotness was a magnet for a long line of suitors. Tarzan's Lex Barker, one of the most famous men of the era, who ended up being Lana's second husband. Howard Hughes, Frank Sinatra, allegedly a married Clark Gable, and most infamously, the gangster, Johnny Stomponado. Johnny Stomponado was a killer, a killer who worked for L.A. crime boss, Mickey Cohen.
Starting point is 00:35:11 If you've seen the Academy Award-winning film LA Confidential, you'll see Johnny Stompinado depicted on screen getting his ball squeezed literally by Russell Crow's Bud White character. Johnny is seated across from a woman playing none other than Lana Turner. Johnny was a bad guy and not just on the street. At home, behind closed doors, he beat on his beautiful girlfriend. Lana had a hard time finding her way out of the relationship. So in 1957, she took an acting gig all the way over in London, starring opposite a handsome young actor named Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It's long been rumored that the two quickly became involved romantically on the set of that film, Another Time, Another Place. Those rumors started way back in 1957, and Johnny Stompinado heard them all the way across the pond back in Hollywood. Incensed, he grabbed his gun and boarded a flight for London. He arrived on set, pulled out his gun, and went straight for Sean Connery. Stompinato was a hard man, but Connery was a different type of tough. He'd grown up fighting off violent street gangs in Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:36:22 He was a truck driver, a lifeguard, a boxing instructor, a bodybuilder, a gym instructor in the British Army, and a tattooed fighter in the Royal Navy. Skinny Hollywood hoods with greasy pompadors and tiny pistols did not intimidate Sean Connery. Sean Connery was in the middle of filming a scene with Lana Turner, and they were embracing on a couch. Johnny Stomponado walked right into the shoot with his gun drawn, straight at Connery, telling him to get his hands off his girl. Connery quickly grabbed Stomponado's wrist and twisted it hard until he dropped his gun. He walled him with a right hook and escorted him off the set and into the custody of Scotland Yard, which wasted no time in deporting Johnny Stompinato back to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:37:08 When Lana returned home, the real fighting began. As her relationship with the gangster progressed, so too did the volatility and violence. It was too much to handle for Lana's 14-year-old daughter, Cheryl, who lived with her. The fighting was endless, and Cheryl heard it all. When the beating ceased to have the effect he was looking for, Johnny would resort to threats. He told Lana he would cut her face to ribbons with a knife if she didn't do what she was told. The point being, he'd disfigure her so badly she'd never work in Hollywood again. Lana fought back, and Johnny took a razor blade to her cheek and held it there.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Still, Lana was obstinate. Cheryl heard everything. She was living in constant fear. When Lana left her second husband, Tarzan's Lex Barker, Cheryl had been relieved by her mother's choice of the gangster Johnny Sompinato. Anything would be better than Lex, who repeatedly raped Cheryl as a young girl. But Stompano's presence proved to be its own type of hell.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Fear, ever-present violence, the constant threat of an anvil hanging over her head. Johnny Stompinado was a 24-7 problem. When he wasn't beating on Cheryl's mother, he was threatening to slice her to pieces. And when Stomponado wasn't threatening Lana Turner, he was threatening Cheryl. Lana wouldn't listen, Lana wouldn't respond to the beatings, Lana wouldn't respond to the threats,
Starting point is 00:38:44 then Stompinada would threaten to cut up Lana's daughter as well. Cheryl couldn't believe what she was hearing behind closed doors. I'll cut you so bad that no one will be able to tell it to you anymore. You'll never work again. Your daughter's next. It was unhinged, depraved, horrifying to the young. young girl, who crept up to the door that separated her from the war going on on the other side between her mother, the movie star, and her mother's boyfriend, the gangster. Cheryl gripped
Starting point is 00:39:19 tighter the knife she'd grabbed as she passed through the kitchen. It was just for protection, she thought, a last resort. As the screaming raged on the other side of the door, Cheryl stood there helpless, squeezing the knife. She couldn't open the door. She couldn't help her mother. She was paralyzed. But then, the door burst open, and Cheryl's mom, Lana, burst through it and passed by her. Her psychopathic boyfriend Johnny Stompanado lunged after Lana and into the outstretched knife-wielding hand of 14-year-old Cheryl Turner.
Starting point is 00:39:54 The knife pierced the gangster's stomach. Blood spilled out, drenching his silk shirt. His eyes went wide. Cheryl's mouth fell open with a near silent gasp. And behind her, Lana Turner screamed as her lover, Johnny Stompinado, fell dead to the floor. Immature, shallow, messy,
Starting point is 00:40:40 the worst concert experience of my life, a bad mashup of John Mellencamp and Kesha. All these criticisms and more have been hurled at Lana Delray. Pitchfork called her debut major label album, Born to Die, quote, the album equivalent of a fake orgasm. Actress and musician Juliette Lewis, after watching Lana Del Rey's infamous debut Saturday Night Live performance, tweeted out, Wow, watching this quote singer on SNL is like watching a 12-year-old in their bedroom
Starting point is 00:41:15 when they are pretending to sing and perform. Hashtag sign of our times. Ouch. Some of this criticism was warranted, namely the bad reviews of Lana's SNL performance, but most of it is ridiculous. All art is subjective, but not all art needs to fit neatly into a box, which is what our critics want for our pop stars. But when Lana Del Rey first burst into the mainstream with Born to Die,
Starting point is 00:41:46 there was no obvious box. In fact, to the extent that there was a figurative box, It wasn't one that many critics wanted to touch. Lana Del Rey was a dream you never knew you wanted to have. A Tumblr account come to life in the form of a pop star. A boardwalk bad girl, a Catholic school slut. A Lolita with AP English smarts who swam with alligators and walked over beats in Nancy Sinatra's boots. Lana Del Rey is the best kind of an artist.
Starting point is 00:42:18 The kind who takes chances. the kind who isn't afraid to risk it. More importantly, she's unafraid to risk it in public, in front of us, for us. Failure. Falling down creatively. It's an unfortunate but inevitable outcome for this type of artist. Yes, it is, as NPR said of Lana.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Messy. But an artist shouldn't be criticized for being messy. Quite the opposite. The best examples of that include Bob Dylan, Kirk Cobain and Prince, I could go on and on. I believe that for all their pro-feminism, the future is female, trendy claims of girl power, the mainstream press, at least when it comes to Lana Del Rey,
Starting point is 00:43:02 an artist playing with a nostalgic vision of America that the coastal elite media these days sees as reductive. The media's criticism of this female artist is, well, hypocritical and kind of misogynistic. It strikes me as weird that a 21st century, female artist with such a strong point of view and such obvious mass appeal would be so viciously criticized by a media that typically champions strong women. But Lana Del Rey doesn't fit into anyone's box. Lana Del Rey doesn't fit anyone else's vision of what a female pop singer should be.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Lana Del Rey has always had her own vision of who Lana Del Rey is. She creates from her own playbook. And that type of creator, that type of artist has always been hard for simple-minded critics to understand. Navikov's Lolita was panned. Shipments of the book were seized upon entering the United Kingdom in France. Critics called the book sheer unrestrained pornography. Yet the novel has lived on as one of the most enduring and consequential works of fiction ever written. We are still talking about it and referencing it and arguing about it to this day. Catherine the Great was such an effective female leader that her legacy was subjected to a centuries-long smear campaign.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And Lana Turner, her star power, her sexuality, the men in her life simply could not handle it, to the point where she was almost murdered, to the point where her 14-year-old daughter had to kill a man for the two women to survive. Whether these stories that I just told you were inspired by Lana Delray or whether they inspired Lana Del Rey or self, the powerful female subjects at the center of them all
Starting point is 00:44:49 share a common element with Lana Del Rey. They broke the mold. Criticizing an artist for doing so would be a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan. It's disgrace land. Thanks for listening to this week's episode on Lana Del Rey, a one-of-a-kind artist who, as you can hear from this episode, was unfairly in my estimation.
Starting point is 00:45:26 treated by the press. This week's question of the week to you guys is, which entertainers, artists, rock stars, actors, athletes do you think have been unfairly treated by the media, by the critics, and why does the media seem to judge some entertainers differently than others, particularly female entertainers? 617-906-66-3638, leave me a voicemail, send me a text, and let me know. You can also reach me at Discraceland Pod as well on Instagram, X, and Facebook. Leave a review for the show on Apple Podcasts for Spotify and win some free merch. All right, here comes some credit. Disgraceland was created by yours truly and is produced in partnership with Double Elvis.
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Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joy is essential, and it's also elusive, but now there's a new and exciting way to start your journey to. toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy,
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