DISGRACELAND - Phil Spector: Silent Night, Loaded Gun
Episode Date: December 9, 2025A gun-waving showdown with the Ramones. A death threat from the Genovese crime family. A terrorized Ronnie Spector locked inside a gilded cage. And a Christmas record crushed by one of the darkest day...s in American history. Listen to find out how producer Phil Spector created a joyful holiday masterpiece before fear and violence turned his quest for immortality into something far darker. Now that we're in the holiday season, we want your recommendations for Christmas music. We're looking for the obscure and off the beaten path – whaddaya got, Disgos? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod. To listen to Disgraceland ad free and get access to weekly bonus content and more, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram YouTube X (formerly Twitter) Facebook Fan Group TikTok To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.
This is a story about Christmas.
It's a story about guns and about pain in control.
about how a kid from the Bronx made a wall of sound
and then made the holidays sound bigger than they ever had before.
It's about how fame turns to fear and fear turns to violence.
And it's about the fine line between immortality and infamy.
This is a story about Phil Spector.
So naturally it's a story about great music.
Some of the most groundbreaking and infamy,
influential music of the last 60 years.
Unlike that clip I played for you at the top of the show,
that wasn't great music.
That was a preset loop from my Melotron called
Electric Hairpiece MK2.
I played you that loop because I can't afford the rights to
Deep Purple by Nino Tempo and April Stevens.
And why would I play you that specific slice of
Richie Blackmore-inspiring cheese
could I afford it?
Because that was the number one song in America on November 22nd, 1963.
And that was the day that Phil Spector released the album A Christmas Gift for You.
His attempt to cement his young legacy on the charts and in the minds of millions,
only to have his music overshadowed by one of the darkest days in American history,
an omen of the even darker days to come.
On this episode, a wall of sound, guns, fear, violence, great Christmas music, and Phil Specter.
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February 3rd, 2003, Alhambra, California.
50,000 volts of electricity ripped through Phil Spector's 63-year-old body.
Within seconds, his knees gave up.
He dropped to the floor.
His vision was blurry, but he could now feel the cop who just tasered him, cuffing his hands behind his back.
This was his house, his castle, actually the famed Pyrenees Castle.
A castle fit for a king, or more accurately, in Spector's case, fit for a legendary record producer.
Phil Spector lived up on high, on a hill overlooking the San Gabriel Valley.
10 bedrooms, 10 bathrooms, turrets, spires, mirrored walls, crystal chandeliers.
It was part gothic, part romantic, part relic of the past, but it was his.
And the police just walked right in like they owned the place.
They saw the woman's body slumped in an ivory brocade chair.
And they saw all the blood, the teeth scattered all over the floor of the foyer.
And then they saw Phil Spector standing there.
His white jacket splattered with blood.
They told him to put his hands up.
He did not comply.
He hated cops.
He hated cops ever since they made life hell for his good friend Lenny Bruce.
Rest in peace.
So fuck you, uh-homber-PD.
That's the moment the cop fired the taser.
And that's when the pain really set in.
Life was pain.
Phil Specter knew pain as early as nine years old
when his father parked his car on the side of the road in Brooklyn,
pumped in the exhaust through a rubber tube in the driver's side window
and suffocated on the fumes.
And then years later, when his own son, Philip Jr. died of leukemia.
Phil Spector knew that pain never really went away.
And now, face down on the cold floor of his castle,
Phil had to push past the pain of the taser
to realize that he was being placed under arrest on suspicion of murder.
At this point, the cops had found the bloody 38-cali-caliber cobra revolver
in the nine other guns Phil kept in the house.
Phil Spector loved guns.
Just ask John Lennon, Debbie Harry,
D.D. Ramon, Leonard Cohen, Cher,
or any other musician who'd once had a gun pulled on them
by one of the 20th century's most consequential figures
in popular music.
It was true.
Phil Spector loved guns.
But there was one thing he loved even more than guns.
Christmas.
As an orchestrated rendition of Silent Night played in his headphones,
Phil Spector leaned into the microphone.
Phil's right-hand studio engineer, Larry Levine, hit record.
The tape rolled.
Phil Spector spoke in his nasal, high-pitched voice.
Hello, this is Phil Specter.
It's Christmas, so why don't you go fuck yourselves?
In reality, it wasn't Christmas.
Not quite yet.
It was August 1963.
Outside the walls of Gold Star Studios in Hollywood,
the mercury topped 103 degrees.
Inside, though, it was freezing.
Phil had cranked the AC in hopes that it would help the many musicians and singers involved
in creating his new Christmas album get into the holiday spirit.
But Phil Spector, for one, may have gotten a little too much into the spirit.
I made this for you, he said into the microphone, as the tape kept rolling.
You cock suckers.
Phil began to laugh hysterically.
Larry Levine hit stop on the tape machine.
Come on, Phil, he said.
You can't say that.
And also, this monologue of yours is already like five minutes long.
You've got to cut it down.
The monologue that Larry was referring to was Phil's spoken word contribution to the final
track of the record. It was Phil's way of making sure that listeners knew who was really the brains
behind the operation. Not the Ronnets and not the crystals, but the so-called tycoon of teen, the self-made
millionaire who made his bones producing hit records for the teenage set. He called them
little symphonies for the kids. At just 23 years old himself, Phil Spector was serious about his
groundbreaking, overwhelming wall of sound style, which, for the first time in pop music history,
really exploited all the amenities of the recording studio for maximum emotional effect.
A Phil Spector record was known for its layers of instruments, strings, and echo,
and a collection of Christmas songs would be no different.
Because this record wasn't just a cynical holiday cash grab.
It wasn't some phoned-in Andy Williams bullshit.
It was a proof of vision.
Phil Spector was going to make the greatest, most musically sophisticated Christmas record ever released.
He hoped it would be as big as Irving Berlin's White Christmas,
not only the biggest selling Christmas song of all time, but the biggest selling song of all time, period.
White Christmas was immortal.
Thus, Irving Berlin was immortal, too.
That was the kind of immortality that Phil Spector aspired to.
So we booked Gold Star Studios for six weeks.
He worked 15-16-hour days, seamlessly weaving together a joyous tapestry of horns, strings, sleigh-bells,
LA's greatest session musicians, the wrecking crew, and the voices of Beehive-Hare Dude beauties like
Darlene Love and that one girl he had a crush on, Ronnie Bennett, even though Phil himself was a newlywed.
But although the music was joyous, the ways in which he achieved that sound were often less so.
He demanded take after take to get it just right.
He punched the talkback button.
Take it again from the top.
Stop.
Take it again from the top.
Take it again from the top.
He pushed every player to their limits.
And when it all got to his head, which it often did,
when his ego and his ambition made him feel godlike,
so powerful that even he thought for a moment that he could actually say,
go fuck yourselves on his monologue for the album's final track, he had guys like Larry Levine
who brought him back down to Earth. It was Larry Levine who said, quote, the Christmas album
is a period I don't remember with pleasure, unquote. But Phil Spector didn't really care
about all that. This record was his statement of purpose. And when it was released in November of
1963, it would blow the Irving Berlins and Andy Williams is right out of the water and
cement Phil Spector as the musical force to be wrecked with.
And then...
Here is a bulletin from CBS News.
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Dallas.
The first report say that President Kennedy has been seriously wounded by this shooting.
The assassination of President John F. Kennedy just so happened to coincide with the release
of Phil Spector's holiday album, A Christmas Gift for you.
Retail sales came to a halt.
Radio stations broke format for days,
replacing pop music with round-the-clock news.
And as a result, the record did not sell as expected,
but even more crushing for its creator,
it did not make Phil Specter immortal.
Phil Spector was instead reminded of his own mortality
because he had failed and he was now, once again, in pain.
So much pain, in fact,
that the accepted narrative claims that
Phil pulled all copies of a Christmas gift for you from record store shelves across the country.
But do a little digging and it seems that this is nothing but a myth.
One that's been perpetuated over the years by biographers, perhaps out there by Phil himself,
in order to control the narrative about why the record didn't sell well upon its initial release.
Because if you look at the data from the trade charts during December of 1963,
the album was number 13 on Billboard's seasonal list and in the record,
the top five on Cashbox's seasonal survey.
What died that weekend wasn't the record so much as the moment.
Hit radio went silent.
Commerce screeched to a halt.
And by the time America went back to normal, the window had nearly closed.
And so had Phil Spector's odds at achieving immortality.
But Phil was nothing, if not tenacious.
He knew he would create another opportunity in which he could take another shot.
And this one would be huge, bigger than Christmas.
Big enough that the whole world would take notice.
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Big Jim slammed his big fists down on the desk.
Papers went flying.
A rotary phone fell onto the floor.
And Phil Spector, who had just been seated behind the desk, leapt to his feet in shock.
Big Jim was not fucking around.
He was a thug and pleaded khakis.
He rolled up his sleeves and started to come around to the other side of the desk,
obviously eager to ring Phil Spector's neck.
Phil panicked and began to distance himself defensively.
What the hell do you want?
Big Jim laughed.
It's not what I want.
It's what Joe Scandori wants.
And I'm the guy who makes sure that Joe Scandori gets what he wants.
Joe Scandori, as in the well-connected business associate of the Genevese crime family,
who also just so happened to be the manager of the vocal group, the Crystals,
who were assigned to Phil Spector's independent record label.
Big Jim grabbed both ends of the desk with his big palms.
It looked like he was either about to vault over it or talk.
toss it to the side.
And do you know what Joe Scandori wants?
And Phil thought about making a run for it.
But he knew the big gym would squash him like a size 15 steel-toed boot on a scattering
cockroach.
So he just stayed where he was.
Opposite, his momentary tormentor, trying not to look like he was about to piss his pants.
Joe Scandori wants you to deliver this fucking single by the crystals that you owe him.
And he wants you to do it right now.
And you'd better do it because if you don't,
I'm going to kill your fucking mother, and then I'm coming back here to break your legs.
A few weeks later, in August of 1962, Phil Spector's record label released the Crystal's latest single,
He's a Rebel.
But here's the thing.
The girls who actually sang on that single, they weren't the crystals.
They were the blossoms, featuring the great Darlene Love on lead.
For years, this remained a secret, and the reason that it happened in the first place was because Phil Specter,
was terrified that Joe Scandori's muscle, Big Jim,
was going to make good on his promise to maim and kill
if Phil didn't release something by the crystals.
And since he had a recording of the blossoms already in the can,
putting that out under the Crystal's name
seemed the easiest and swiftest way
to avoid Big Jim's bloody retribution.
And despite the discrepancy between the name on the label
and the voices in the record's grooves,
he's a rebel, the song, became the second single
produced by Phil Specter to hit number one.
The Crystal's next single, which actually was performed by the Crystals this time,
the Do Run Run hit number three.
And then the Ronnettes, excellent, Be My Baby made it to number two.
Both of those songs in 1963.
Be My Baby in particular was the Helen of Troy of early 60s pop.
The song that launched a thousand ships, as it were, or more accurately,
the song that inspired upstarts like the Beach Boys Brian Wilson and the Beatles, John Lennon,
to reach new creative heights.
The next time Phil Specter would see one of his productions
hit the top of the pop chart, however,
was with the Righteous Brothers' 1964 single,
You've Lost That Loving Feeling.
A number one smash in both the United States and the UK.
You've lost that loving feeling.
Be my baby.
Do Run Run.
And he's a rebel.
All shared the same thing.
Phil Spector's unmistakable Wall of Sound.
which was achieved by doubling or sometimes tripling instruments like an acoustic piano,
an electric piano, and harpsichord, all playing the same part simultaneously.
The resulting sound was massive, as big and expressive as the dramatic melancholy of 1960's
teenage life, and it exploded from jukeboxes and car radio speakers.
In 1966, the Wall of Sound grew bigger than ever at the Gold Star session for Phil's production
of Ike and Tina Turner's version of River Deep Mountain High.
Four guitars, three bass players, three pianos, two drummers, multiple percussionists,
close to two dozen musicians in total played in that room together at top volume.
And after Tina Turner matched the musician's energy level with a performance so feverish
and sweaty that she stripped down to her bra and after the final product had been
drenched in that patented wall of sound echo, River Deep Mountain High was unresolved.
Undeniably, a masterpiece, a Phil Specter masterpiece.
But the decade was changing fast.
The teenagers Phil made his music for were moving on.
Beetlemania had completely rearranged the musical landscape,
and the British invasion was all the rage.
In 1966, during a summer which stripped down songs by the rascals,
the Mamas and the Pappas and the Rolling Stones dominated the pop chart,
The overstuffed river-deep mountain high stalled at number 88.
It was the worst charting single of Phil Spector's now eight-year career.
The failure was a gut punch.
This was the Christmas album Fiasco all over again.
Maybe it was complicated by the fact that he tried to sign the Rolling Stones to his record label,
Phil Les, Records, but was stonewalled by the chairman of their UK label.
Either way, this time, Phil Specter took it personally.
In an interview with the New York Times that very year, he said he'd lost interest in the record business.
That's like a fish saying that he's lost interest in water.
With that sudden disinterest came an equal and opposite strong interest in one Ronnie Bennett,
the Spanish Harlem girl with the hair and the face and the dark eyes and the red lips and the whole thing.
Phil didn't tell her he already had a wife when they began dating.
and Ronnie didn't suspect anything because Phil wasn't acting like a married man would act.
One time, Ronnie left Gold Star Studios with Phil's gopher, a pre-famed Sunny Bono, to go grab some burgers.
And Phil's jealousy ran so hot that he turned the studio upside down while she was gone, even ripping tape off the reels.
Another time, Ronnie went out dancing with Sunny's girl, Cher, the Purple Onion,
only to have Phil show up in a rage and drag Ronnie from the danceful.
floor. Ronnie saw Phil freak out many a time, but never more than when his friend, the comedian
Lenny Bruce, was found dead of an overdose. Phil couldn't get over the injustice of it all.
Lenny had been arrested, humiliated, vilified, all for a couple of dirty words.
Phil saw on Lenny a kindred spirit, someone who was just as much a rebel as he was, especially
when it came to the kinds of rules that their respective industries wanted to impose them.
upon them. With Phil, it was the expectation that he would make hit records like they'd always
been made. With Lenny, it was the expectation that he'd play it clean. And when they both broke
the mold like true rebels, this is what they got for it, rejected by the general public. With poor
Lenny here naked on his bathroom floor, a syringe of junk his only companion during his last breath.
Phil was so upset about Lenny
that he forbade Ronnie from leaving him
She couldn't even go on tour with the Beatles
Who had invited the Ronnettes to open their American dates for them
So her cousin Elaine went in Ronnie's place
And by Christmas of 1966
When the Ronettes like many other girl groups of their ilk
Called it quits for good
It was Ronnie's turn to grieve
Because she had been denied those last few months
With the group that bore her name
Phil said he'd make it up to her name
said he'd make it up to her. He was going to return to the record business that had forsaken him
in order to make her a bona fide pop star. Ronnie hoped that Phil was telling the truth,
turning a corner even, and for that, she was elated. But Ronnie couldn't see what was going on
inside of Phil, who she would eventually marry in 1968. Phil Spector was not turning any
corners. Phil Spector was now a man defined by his pain, a man frustrated. A man frustrated.
by what he perceived to be a disdainful public reaction to his genius,
a man increasingly out of time.
He was a man living in a world that had moved on without him.
The Beatles, the Stones, the Mamas and the Pappas, the Rascals,
they were running laps around him,
while he found himself paying increasing attention to the devil on his shoulder,
and also to the devil on his other shoulder,
and inside Phil Spector,
those devils waged a war through all that pain.
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1979.
The Hollywood Hills.
D.D. Ramon was tired of waiting around.
This wasn't New York City.
This wasn't 53rd and 3rd.
This was the cold and sterile homes.
home of Phil Spector, the first of his soon-to-be notorious mansions.
This one nestled in the sunburnt brush high above the sunset strip.
It's not like the basis for the Ramones couldn't wait if he had good reason to.
Didi could wait on his man for some of that Chinese rock, no problem.
He just didn't like waiting on this man, or the man, if this dinosaur of a record producer
was to be believed, who, according to Dede's bandmate, Johnny Ramon, was doing
everything ass backwards. Johnny was the one usually calling the shots. And when Johnny spoke,
you listened. He thought like he played. He talked like he played. He strategized like he played,
which was fast, loud, and very brief. Johnny didn't waste notes. And he didn't waste your time.
When you made a record, according to the wisdom of Johnny Ramon, you got in, you got out,
you got it over and done with.
Making records was an occupational hazard,
an inconvenience at best.
But the Ramones were making a record with Phil Spector,
who was as laborious and methodical
as the leather and denim-clad punks were quick and dirty.
Phil made Johnny play the same fucking chord over and over again.
It felt like some sick joke.
And so now, Didi found himself just wanting something to do,
something besides all this sitting and waiting with his dick in his hands.
And where was Joey?
The Ramoan's lead singer had been whisked away by Phil hours ago
to work on a cover of an old Ronnette song.
Dedi stood up and began to wander through the rooms
in the hallways of Phil's mansion shouting,
Joey, Joey the fuck are you?
Let's get the hell out of here, man.
Suddenly, Phil Spector appeared from out of the shadows
wearing all black, long black hair, black ghost.
O.T., black shades.
A big, gaudy crucifix hung from his neck, and in his hand he held a revolver.
What's the matter, Didi?
Didi nearly laughed.
Phil looked ridiculous.
Instead, Didi just shook his head, dismissed this crazy motherfucker standing before him
with a wave of his hand and told Phil that he was leaving.
Phil stepped forward until he was in arm's length from Didi.
He raised the revolver and pushed it squarely into the base player's chest.
and then he spoke.
D-D-E.
You ain't going nowhere.
He and the rest of the remotes were quickly discovering
what others before them already knew.
But the producer Phil Spector was fucking nuts.
Their friends and Blondie knew it.
And just a few years earlier,
Phil invited them back here to his mansion
after a show at the whiskey,
and then held him at gunpoint,
even at one point sticking the butt of his 45
down Debbie Harry's boot.
Leonard Cohen knew it
when Phil pulled a piece on him
while they were making the album
Death of a Ladies Man
Actually, Phil grabbed Leonard's neck
and then stuck the butt of a gun
against the singer's head and said
Leonard, I love you.
Share knew it.
When she confronted Phil
over some of her recordings he had legally released
and he responded by twirling a revolver
on his finger.
George Harrison never saw it
while he and Phil made all things must pass
one of the greatest solo records by a beetle, but George's friend John Lennon sure did.
Phil showed up at a session for John's solo album Rock and Roll dressed like a surgeon
and wildly fired his pistol at the studio ceiling.
And all of this, of course, after he caused the typically stoned and docile Paul McCartney,
to fly off the handle and compose the angriest letter of his career
when Phil molested the master tapes of the Beatles' final album, Let It Beating.
But perhaps no one knew about Phil Spector better than his own.
wife, Ronnie.
Phil rarely let Ronnie leave the house.
He locked her in the closet when he had company over.
On the rare occasion, when he did allow her to leave, he placed an inflatable man doll in the
front passenger seat of her car, so it appeared that he was driving around with her.
And perhaps there was no better example of the extent of his fucked-upness than when he
bought a solid gold coffin for his wife, Ronnie, and then showed it to her, making sure to
point out that it was equipped with a glass top so that he could keep an eye on her even after
she was dead. And by the time Phil was working with the Ramones, Ronnie had long since done what
she had been afraid to do for a long time. Afraid because she knew about Phil's insane jealousy,
about his anger, volatility, and about how that mixture along with some alcohol and a house
full of loaded firearms could prove deadly. But she was able to leave unscathed.
And as the 1970s flew by and punk rock broke,
Ronnie came to expect those monthly alimony checks from Phil.
The ones that were always stamped with the words,
Fuck you on the back.
Juvenile, yes, but she'd take it over the way he used to pay her.
$1,200 delivered entirely in nickels by a couple of heavies carrying shotguns,
but I digress.
In 1979, five years after his split with Ronnie was made official,
Phil Spector needed a new target.
Unfortunately for them, it became the Ramones.
And like I said, punk may have broken,
but Phil was doing his best part to break punk
by remaking the band and his image.
Obviously, the Ramones were aligned
with the lineage of girl groups like the Ronnettes,
but it was as though Phil was stuck in the past
and hell-bent on dragging the boys back there with him.
That said, the resulting album,
End of the Century, is pretty fucking awesome.
even if it's not a true Ramones' album
in the sense that Phil brought in other drummers
and guitar players for some songs as well as a keyboardist
and a saxophonist.
It took them three weeks to make the album.
Joey said it was interminable.
With the exception of his minor involvement
on Yoko Ono's album's season of glass in the 1980s,
not to mention a failed attempt at working with Celine Dion in the 90s
and two tracks for a Star Siler album in the 2000s,
the Ramones' record was the last,
full album of new material Phil Spector ever produced. For decades, he was largely absent from the
musical landscape. He was a relic in an industry that was constantly moving forward. He became a fetish
of so-called audio purists, synonymous with that back-to-mono slogan which campaigned for a heyday
that had been lost just as quickly as it had been defined. But to show him that he mattered,
at least as an important notch on the timeline of 20th century popular music,
that same industry inducted Phil Spector into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1989.
It was recognition.
It was a plaque on a wall somewhere in Ohio.
But it wasn't eternal.
It wasn't white Christmas.
And that's what Phil Spector had always wanted,
to be remembered for eternity.
And so he went and he got what he wanted.
but he had to do something else in order to get it.
Because to truly grasp at eternity, to hold it in his hands,
he had to also take infamy along with it,
which is what he did.
And when at long last he seized eternity and infamy,
he did it with a gun.
Hey guys, earlier in this episode,
I mentioned an incident in which Phil Spector shot his gun into the ceiling
while making a record with John Lennon.
The whole story around Phil and John's relationship is much crazy.
than that little nugget there, believe it or not.
And we simply didn't have time to get into it in this episode.
No problem.
That's why we have mini episodes.
And you can hear that story about the wild shenanigans of Phil Specter and John Lennon,
which is full of debauchery and brazen theft and near death.
You can hear all about it in a brand new mini episode, like I said,
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Now back to this story about Phil Specter.
In the wee hours of February 3, 2003, at the age of 63 years old,
Phil Spector still thought of himself as a rebel,
just like the one in that Blossom, Crystal's song.
Only this time, his rebellion wasn't taking place inside a recording studio,
as it had four decades earlier.
This time, he was rocking that rebel attitude
by going in the wrong door at the House of Blues
on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles.
This was the door you went through if you were somebody.
You had to be worthy to go through that door.
Phil Spector wasn't on the House of Blues VIP list that night,
but that didn't matter to him.
He was a VIP in the larger cultural sense,
at least in his own mind.
At first, the club staff told him he wasn't allowed in the room.
But then one of the waitresses did recognize him
and suddenly everyone's tune changed.
Suddenly, Phil was being led to a seat and poured a stiff glass of Bacardi 151.
He could hear Judas Priest Rob Halford wrapping up his set in the performance room there at the venue.
But all that hell-bent for leather shit, that wasn't for Phil.
Besides, Phil was too busy making eyes at one waitress in particular.
The six-foot-tall blonde was piercing eyes and legs for days.
Lana Clarkson was a 40-year-old struggling actress who had never quite
reached the Hollywood dream she'd spent her adult life chasing.
B-movies, Roger Corman Productions, films with titles like Barbarian Queen.
This was what she'd come to expect as her lot in life.
Side hustles like this House of Blues gig were necessary to keep the lights on.
And the work wasn't as risky as the work she'd allegedly done a decade earlier as a call
girl who commanded upwards of $1,000 an hour.
Now, maybe Lana Clarkson had heard of Phil Spectre,
for. It's hard to know. But after Phil made repeated advances during his brief stay there at the
House of Blues that night, Lana eventually accepted his invitation to go home with him to his
castle on a hill, some 14 miles away in nearby Alhambra. The pair climbed into the backseat of
Phil's black Mercedes limousine, and his driver, Adriano DeSouza, put it in drive. There was 2.30 in the
morning. The bright lights of Los Angeles receded in the distance.
And now was all strip malls, single stories, bungalows.
Malhambra was fast asleep.
A little over an hour passed, and soon Lana Clarkson could see the huge iron gates
that created a physical and metaphorical barrier around Phil's otherworldly castle.
Adriano pulled the limo up to the house.
Phil and Lana got out, and then they walked up the 88 stone steps to the castle's front door.
Lana didn't even think to wonder if that number 88 was in.
intentional, done on purpose to match the number of keys on a piano.
Was it mere coincidence?
Just like her presence here, right now.
Had this all been planned in advance?
Was it in the cards, cosmically speaking, or was it as completely random as it seemed?
Like I said, she wasn't thinking these things, because her mind was racing to simply take in what she was seeing as they walked through the enormous front door and into the ornate foyer.
the marble flooring, the crystal chandeliers, the white piano in the decorative suit of armor,
and an ivory brocade chair.
Outside, Adriano had pulled the limo around back, where he was now waiting, because technically he was still on the clock.
The soft, meditative purr of the engine was suddenly rattled by a loud crack coming from inside the castle.
Adriano was startled.
He threw open the driver's door and jumped from the limo just as his boss, Phil's
Spector was coming out of the back door. Phil was holding a revolver in his hand. Phil stood there in the
early morning darkness and the sun just beginning to push up against the cold horizon. And with a
blank stare on his face, Phil Spector looked at Adriano and said, I think I killed somebody.
Minutes later, Alhambra PD discovered Lana Clarkson's dead body slumped in that ivory brocade chair
with a single gunshot wound to her mouth. Phil Spector would go on to claim that Lana
Clarkson had drunkenly played around with the 38 Colt Cobra revolver that killed her,
even kissing it in the moment before she accidentally shot herself.
But the evidence said otherwise,
and after two trials, and after a jury deliberated for 30 hours,
Phil Spector was found guilty of second-degree murder on April 13, 2009.
He got 19 years to life.
Eight months later, on December 23rd of that same year,
Darlene Love, formerly of the Blossoms, one of the groups shepherded by a young Phil Specter,
appeared as the musical guest on The Late Show with David Letterman.
As was Letterman's tradition since 1986, every December right before the holiday,
Darlene would come on the show to perform her song, Christmas Baby Please Come Home,
one of the highlights from Phil Spector's A Christmas Gift for You album.
This year, however, Phil Spector's name was not mentioned on the time.
televised broadcast. This was Darlene Love's song. This was Darlene Love's moment.
And for all the studio audience knew, hell, for all the world knew as they watched from home,
Phil Spector had nothing to do with this. This Christmas album was once the thing that Phil Spector hoped
would make him remembered for eternity. But now, all Phil Spector was known for was being a disgrace.
I'm Jake Brennan
And this is Disgraceland
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