Dissect DJs - A League of Their Own

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

We do a deep dive from the archives from The 3 Things About podcast and pull out our thorough breakdown on the 1992 cinema classic A League of Their Own! We crown our MVPs of the movie, the 6th Man Off the Bench Award, The "Practice Squad Player" who we could've done without, and hit all the longstanding eternal questions - Did Dottie drop the ball on purpose? Why don't women play baseball anymore? And did you know this features a cameo of the greatest 80s feature actor of all time? Batter Alllll! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What's up everybody? It's Castle of the Dicex DJs. Happy summertime. Hope everybody's having a fun July and you really should because let's be honest this This is arguably the best time of year now I'm a big October man myself, but you can make a strong case for the heart of the summer You know we have good weather. There's just a general summer energy that just lives around the corner of wherever you're at and there's not much reason to be mad about it. Now, if you were to make a case about what is not that great about this time of year, it would probably be that it's the worst time of year for the sports schedule. And yeah, you could make that case. But I will make a case for February. You know, right after the Super Bowl ends, still got like another month until March madness heats up. There is absolutely nothing going on on the sports calendar at that time. And likewise, around this time of

We just lost basketball, hockey. Still got about another month until NFL starts up, and there is not a whole lot to keep you entertained. But on the plus side, at least it's not February. You go outside? Fuck yeah. Feels like July. But the other plus side?

Baseball. That's right. A lot of people would like to say, kind of sucks right now because all we got going on is baseball. But I'm going to make the case for baseball right now. In our last episode, I mentioned that, One of the top five things America brings to the table is its baseball stadiums, and that was not hyperbole. I meant every word of that.

Go to a baseball park. Any, the nearest by you, next time you're traveling somewhere, they all have great character. Individualistic styles, and it really gives a good read of what that city is. They all have their own skyline. They generally build them in the middle of the city, and you get to experience outdoor nature at its finest at a professional baseball game. So that's one thing. The other thing, as of the release of this episode right now, we got the All-Sar game. And I would make an argument that it is the best All-Star game in sports.

Because sometime in the last 20 years, most of the other professional sports, they all just decided, you know, we're good on the All-Star game. We're going to mock you for watching us and going to give less of an effort than we do for the pre-game warm-ups. Not baseball. Think about it. You got guys out there who are going to pitch one inning at most, maybe get two at bats if they're loving. They want to show out. They want to show why they're on this roster. And if you win MVP of that game, you get like a fucking Rangerover or something and a trophy. And probably just like a gangload of money that they don't need. I don't know. It's a cool game to win MVP yet. So why would you not take your

best hack once you're at the plate? Best All-Star Game in Sport. And the other thing, baseball, great movies, especially in the 90s. And that brings me to this week's episode as I am digging back into the archives of the three things about podcast, which in case you're not familiar was my original podcast, which then spun off into the dissect DJs. And then this podcast ended up getting much more listenership. And I really just decided to focus on this one. You know, why split my time into two when there's really one that everybody's going towards? But what we did with the three things about podcast is we ended up turning it into a bit of a movie review pot. I believe it's still out there. You can still look up the archives. But I will help you out in bringing back one of the

episodes we did, I believe it was two years ago. It was me, DJ Jag and Jayway. We all jumped in the booth and broke down the legendary 1992 classic, A League of Their Own. And I was always really proud of this one. I felt like it came together as one of the best episodes we ever did, even though at one point we were about 15 minutes in and Justin realized he wasn't recording. So we had to go back and restart the whole thing, but you couldn't even tell. We were still on our A game and we had a thorough discussion about one of the best movies of the 90s, which really was the best time for baseball movies. I'm just going to say it. Angels the Outfield, the Major League movies, even though I think the first one came out of late 80s. How about Rookie of the Year?

Bull Durham, I think that was an 80s, but I never actually even saw that one. I probably should. I've always heard good things. Little Big League. That one has slept on a lot. Has Randy Johnson and Ken Griffey Jr. coming out of the pen? You know what I mean? Like, go watch that movie, but only after you listen. to us break down a league of their own, unless you want to watch it first and then listen to it, which in which case, I grant you the ability to do that. You're your own person.

You do whatever the hell you want. But at this point, I would encourage you to listen to our full-on discussion about the movie that made us all fall in love with women's baseball, which most of us didn't even know it was a thing. And as brought up on that podcast, it's kind of crazy that it was only a thing

for like a few years back in the 40s. It's wild. They never brought it back. But anyways, that's one of many talking points that get brought up. So without further do, I'm going to end this pre-ramble. And go ahead and get in to our full episode on one of the greatest films of the 90s, a league of their own. Take it away, boys. Better up hear that come.

The town has come for one and all. play ball I'm Ryan Castle and it is showtime Dream Squad is back Breakdown the movie that we've been talking about for years League of their own 1992 classic about the All-American League It is the three things we got to talk about podcast

I am Ryan Castle joined as ever On my Jam Wagon Squad. It is Jason Malibuya Greetings. and salutations. But I'm Jayway. And Justino Garcia. What's going on? It's DJJJJJJKJKJ.

What's going on, everybody? And we've been waiting to talk of this one for a minute. I feel like we've made passing notes on it left and right over our dissect DJ's history. But yeah, it's time to finally get into it. Rip out the seams. Tear that baseball open. Talk about a league of their own. 1992 film starring Tom Hanks, Gina.

Davis, among others, which we will get into. Madonna. John Lovett. Rosie O'Donald. All them hit is. The dude from Peewee's Big Adventure. Was he in there, too? Oh yeah, he still will as an adult.

So much stuff to get into. So let's not waste any time. And let's get into the question that has been teaming at the seats for years with me and Justino and Jay Way 2. You know what? It kind of, you know, it grinds my gears a little bit too. Yep. And that is a question that we're going to debate and thing.

Number one. Number one. Did Doddy Henson drop the ball on purpose? Of course. Of course. She's the best player in the game. By a lot. She came back for game seven to purposely play in that game,

of which she wasn't even needed for one through six. They were fine without her. It's game for game seven purposely to give her sister the win because her sister's a cry baby and decided to cry for all the different things throughout the movie and throughout the different season. and yes, drop the ball on purpose to help her sister, of which destroyed their relationship and they didn't even keep it throughout their life,

and they didn't talk again until they were like 60, but... 60. They were like in their 80s. Whatever, whatever age. If I look like that when I'm 60, but just put me in a coffee room. By the way, old kid, spot on. She looked exactly like Kit looked. I don't know if you noticed that. Did old Daddy were...

Was that actually Gina Davis? Yes. Because that looked pretty... I don't think it was. Both of them, honestly, great actress. Oh, shit. Like, the visuals alone, they both actually look like. 100% that was both those actresses in the old.

I don't think it was. I will. Jason. Doddy. Did she drop the ball on purpose? On purpose, absolutely not. She got fucking trucked. She got absolutely trucked.

Kit wanted it more. Younger sibling. Prove myself time and time and time again that I deserve to be here, that they made the right decision. There's no way she wanted to let her little sister win. I have an older brother. He didn't want me to win anything. He wanted me to earn it. Yeah, dude, Kit all day.

And I, you know what? Always root for the younger sibling because I am one. Ruted for her when I was, you know, a kid and I watched the movie for the first time. But I swear, gosh, she trucked the shit out of Dottie. Yeah. That's not even in question for me. Yeah. I kind of had the same take.

When I always grew up watching this, I actually always had kids back. Because, as you said, I was the younger. sibling i had a older brother and i always kind of wanted to be on her side because i was like oh when you're just that young you don't have the same physical abilities you're just not capable of actually catching up with your older brother when you're a young age right so i kind of felt kids pain when i was just like your older sister's just better at you at everything everybody likes how she looks better everybody just wants to fawn over her and you just get passed over you're just dottie sister right so i kind of had her back

But when I watch it back as an adult, I'm like, did Kit ever even respect Daddy? Did she ever even have an appreciation for her abilities? Like, she is the best player in the professional baseball league that has never existed. And all she can do is whine about it. At no point, there's not a single, there's not even like a scene where Doddy makes an awesome play. Kit's like, hey, nice snag, sis. Like, there's none of that. It's just one and to the other of Doddy getting attention,

Doddy making awesome plays, and then they just show Kit just looking at her like, ah, this fucking bitch, she's taken, stealing all my shine. So then it comes down to this final play. First of all, Kit should have been out by a mile. She blows through the stop sign at third base. Literally, the third baseman already has the ball in the glove, which I guess would be Doris, right?

Rosio down. Sitting at third, ready to throw it, and throws it out. And Doddy's sitting there with three seconds waiting for kids. Hit hasn't even hit third base yet. She's like checking her watch. Before you go into that, you've got it all the way to her. She's about to hit Doddy. But let's go reverse back all the way back to game fucking where.

Game one of this thing. By the way, there's a quick 15, 20 seconds synopsis in the movie of like newspaper clippings of how the game happens. Game one, they are down. They lose the game 10 to 1. The pieces lose 10 to 1. They're down 1 there. Then game 2, I'm not sure what the score was, but they tie the series.

Then they go down 3 to 1 in the series. At that point, without Doddy Hinton in the lineup. And by the way, let's go back to the 10-1 game. That's probably Kit pitching that game, right? 100%. First game. She only threw a one-run game at the bat. One-and-run, yeah.

Amazing. That's a good pitching game from Kits. She's killing that. And in the final, pitch to no-hitter, no-score game. You're not very good at baseball. No, I know. You get that. But you get what I'm saying.

She pitched a no hitter, no runs. She was pitching a scoreless frame. Yeah, she was pitching eight scoreless innings. And then, yeah, it came to the ninth inning and it was one of nothing. Amazing. Amazing games. She only had two earned runs in 18 innings. Like, one earn run average is one.

You know what I bet, though? I bet Alice hit that home run right there. No, we saw it. Let's not sleep on Ellen Sue, the Miss July. or whatever pitcher. Oh, the Rock for Peaches pitchers. Yes. Who was pitching a shutout herself.

And throughout the movie pitches fantastically. She does. He even hits the disrespectful guy who was like, I'm a ball player. I'm a ball player. Hits him right in the dome. Like, yeah. I have a question about that guy real quick. Did that dude just show up to the game?

Did he buy a ticket just to talk shit? In spite. Like he showed up before they're even started the game. They're warming up. And he gets up there and he's like, I'm a girl. I can't play. ball look at me and just

yeah I feel like I feel like he got blasted I feel like he got blasted he got there it was like forward beers because they were 10 cents each

and like you know whatever you know it's gonna be funny but stand up and show these checks what's up yeah watch this he told all the guys

at the mill guess what I'm gonna do this is gonna be funny watch this get this batting fourth and playing second base number 32

Marla Hooch girls can't play ball batting fifth and playing left field number 11th I'm a ball play I'm a ball player I'm a ball for.

Look out. I might break it in. She pitched a shot. Number one, Ellen Sue. Gunned through the end. Yeah, get some there. Anyway, go back to the pitcher. She pitches a fantastic game going into,

where she pitch a no runs, right? So the only run that, are we talking about Ellen Sue? Ellen Sue. Yeah, the only run she gives up in that game is because, uh, what's her name? Eleanor, I believe. Overthrows.

A little son. Who can't remember to hit the cutoff man overthrows it, which rightfully sets Jimmy off and who does his best? First of all, I just got to say Tom Hanks, amazing in this role. I believe he is Jimmy Dugan the entire stretch. Whether he's being drunk and he's passed out in the dugout or he's being kind of sincere with Dottie, whatever it is. I believe everything he's saying, especially in this spot right here where he is. He is so. so incensed that Eleanor still can't hit the cutoff man. And they had a whole scene earlier in the season where she starts crying and he's like, there's no crying? There's no crying in baseball? And that's because she can't hit the cutoff man, which he's made a point to drive home. She still can't do it and it costs them the only run that has come across the plate in the World Series game seven going into the ninth inning.

So back to my point, Ellen Sue, not only did she look at her. She pitches great. She threw a peach of a game. A peach of a game. Also, old Ellen Sue, the first thing that old Daddy says to her, she's like, wow, you haven't changed a bit. Well, she says, I married a plastic set. I married a plastic setter.

You don't say. Which explains it, but honestly, whatever. She kind of looks just like her. I don't know if it's the same actress with prosthetics. She could get it. Yeah. So where are we with the play? Okay.

Wait, real quick, she says Placist's surgeon and her face isn't move. Stay still, yeah. Plast and Sergio, do that. It's crazy. So, yes, Kit is running at the plate. Doddy Hansen is sitting there for three seconds at least with the ball in hand, waiting to get hit. Kit smacks her at the home plate, and you're saying at that point,

Doddy gets hit so hard, she drops the ball. So what we've seen from Dottie is a multitude of feeling about the game of baseball. Real quick. She doesn't care. We missed this part. But at a 3-1 deficit, did the Pitches even have a chance at this point? Like, does your inner, like, Stephen A, your inner, like, you know, Skip Bates come out and really, like, the 3-1 series with Doddy Hinson not there. And, you know, Kit probably, the kid's not busy.

Because that shit is over. A game's over. Am I? my, my, okay, if we had the talking heads that we have

today, with this series that's happening in what, 1943? Yeah. Okay? Down three more.

Doddy Henson leads and they're down, first of all, they lose 10 to 1 in game 1, as you mentioned. Now they're down three to one.

Allow me to channel my inner Stephen A. Ask me that question again. With the series of the Rockford Peaches and the Racine, what was their name? Rossin Bells.

Racine Bells. Racine is up 3-1 with the first game and the Peach is losing 10-1 How do you see this series going? First of all, I don't even think that's a question. The series was over before it began. When your star, Doddy Henson, leaves the team high and dry

and decides she doesn't want any part of the team. She doesn't want to be a part of a Rockford Peach. She doesn't want to be anything near Jimmy Dugan or any of the members of the team that have brought them to this point. That series is done. This team has collapsed, absolutely obliterated, dilapidated everything that you... Marla Hooch?

Who wears Malahooch? Skip, you tell me where Malahooch is. Did she get married in mid-season? Did she decide that she needed this? No, nobody on the Rockford Peaches decided they needed baseball in their life. And I point the glaring finger at Jimmy Dugge. Because he decided that none of these girls need to play baseball? This was all the money grab for him.

You wanted to come out there. You wanted to wave his little red hat. And as soon as Daddy Hanson left him... This series, this series was over. I don't even know why we're asking this question. They lost Doddy Henson, Marloughooch, and Betty Spaghetti? And Betty Spaghetti's been gone. God rest of his soul, but this team has taken far too many blows.

For them to make any kind of a series of this, it is reprehensible that Doddy Henson would leave her team high and dry. When they were in this state, Marlahooch decided that she didn't need this anymore because now she has a husband, and this series is over. I don't even know why you asked me this question. I'm embarrassed for you that you're sitting across the desk for me and then you're asking if the Rockford Peaches still have an opportunity to make a comeback at the Racine Bells,

not to mention Kit Dottie Hans' little sister is on the mound for Game 7. The series is over. I agree. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Stephen. Is it Steve or Stephen? Stephen. Stephen A, thank you for your synopsis of the situation.

We are now at Game 7 with Kit, hitting the game hitter, which, by the way, went flying to right field about 4, 300 feet. She hit that thing. Talking about Kit. Kit. Let's hit the ball 300. Let's hit the rewind a little. First, we got to go to the top of the ninth, right? This is important to discuss, right?

So, first of all, I got to say I absolutely love the score of this entire game seven. The way they're able to tune it up as soon as, like, there's action. And it's got that sort of old-timey field. Oh, you mean the musical score. It sounds like score or score, but, okay. Oh, sorry, I should have made that clear. The musical score is incredible in the entire game seven. It's kind of got an old school feel from sort of the era that it's representing.

And then as soon as there's action and somebody gets a hit and there's just like, it's energy and you feel it. And then when it comes to a big plate appearance. A climax? Right. The music slows down and you had the horns. And it goes, And the Rockfoot Peaches are down to the final hour.

Now striding to the plate Doddy Henson And you immediately feel Just the magnitude of this moment You got Kit on the mound Facing her big sister Who's just always beat her at everything And she knows she's better than her

But she only needs one more out And then she's the one who's finally the champion But guess who's better Dottie? She knocks it over her head Brings in two runs Can we just say that prior to that? Yeah. Doris is at...

Rewind again? Doris, they have Doris, the third baseman, probably the slowest... Rosie O'Donnell. Probably the slowest runner on their team at either first or second, and the batter decides to lay down a bunt. With their slowest player at the lead runner, crazy bunt to throw. They throw out the first baseman, and Doris ends up at third to bring it around. But still, what a crazy run to throw down with your slowest runner running in their lead base? Yeah.

Just got to say that about that... It's a risky thing by the... Risky play, but Jimmy Dugan plays loose. Jimmy Dugan, you got a risket. Fast and loose. Yeah. And then, like you said, Dottie hits him in the smacks in the run. And then she doesn't make eye contact.

Again, Kit kind of does the thing where she looks over. She's like, why did you have to do that to me? And Dottie won't make eye contact with it. We're like, bitch, this is a game. All right? We're in a professional league or in the opposite side, and you're trying to look at me like, how could you do that to me? And then Kit falls upon.

part in the dugout, right? She is just a mess. She's bawling. Low-key MVP of the Racine Bell's, the catcher who's just like... Save that. Kit! What? Save the MVP for the end. No, I'm saying Racine's MVP. Oh, well, that's... I was going to get that. Okay. We'll save that then. Okay.

So then she's falling apart. It's like, yo, this is a one-run game. Get your shit together. Okay? You know you're up like third or fourth in the next inning. So pull it together. And guess what? Guess who comes up? One out left to go. She's not even on the yet, deck circle. They have to, like, tell her, kid, grab a bat, and she still got tears running all down her face.

She's in no place to hit. You would think the coach would take her out. Like, you know what? No, you get a pinch hit her at that point. Yeah, she's the pitcher been pitching for eight endings. It's okay. She's worn out. Mixed total sense.

No, I'm going to go ahead and send this train wreck up there. Swing away. Are you crying? Get out there. I think you got potential. I see a fire in you right now. I only got my season on the line. I don't say, got a good hensh about this one.

The head coach is like, ah, we're not going to get renewed next. Yeah, fuck it. Get out there. Get out there and give it you all. This is it. So, she comes up to the plate like a total mess. And this right here is why I actually believe that Dottie did not mean to drop the ball.

I think Dottie would like you to believe that she dropped the ball on purpose. But at this moment, she walks up to Ellen Sue, who's been pitching a gem of a game. She marches the, the. mount and tells her give her the high fast up she can't hit it can't lay off it which tells me doddy is there to win i fast balls she can't hit him can't lay off i think ultimately she wants kit to succeed and she wants to see her sister do well but when she's in the competitive fire she's there to win and she wants kit to learn she wants her to know i've been telling you to lay off the high stuff the whole time because you can't hit it you never listen to me

Boom, guess what? I'm going to give it to you right now. And she smacks a high one. She misses the first two. She smacks the third one to right foot, which means she was behind the hit, actually. Yeah. Like she was actually behind that ball.

Opposite power. Opposite power. That got lucky. She barely hit that fucking ball. She was about to strike the fuck out on the swinging thing. It was about to happen. She hits it to right field. Deep right field.

For some reason, the right fielder is not playing safe at this point. She's playing super shallow. Well, those fields... Because she can't hit the high ones. Those fields back then the day, They had crazy measurements. Like, if you look at a graphic of, like, the polo grounds, which is one of the original Major League Baseball Stadiums in New York,

it was like 200 to the foul pole, and then it was like 500 to center fields. Like, yeah, it was insane. Like, go look at a map of what the Polo Grounds look like right now. So it's possible that maybe that's just what this field looked like, because this was back in those days when they didn't know how to build a baseball field properly. But she comes around.

I think she utilizes the fact that she knows Doddy has a soft spot for her because there's no reason for her to keep going. The ball is already in the third basins mid before she even touches third. She goes right through the stop sign and absolutely trucks Doddy because she thinks she will give it to her.

And to this point, before I watched it last night, I always thought that she did drop it on purpose. I thought there was like a half second where she kind of held on to it. But when I watched it back last night, that hand hits the ground. as the ball gets released. I don't think she actually had a choice in the matter.

I think the impact of the entire situation, she got trucked by Kit, and she ended up kind of happy with it. She's the best player in the game. She knew that she kept the ball in her glove, got hit by three seconds to wait for Kit, the small, half her size little girl of a sister to come and hit her, hold the ball on thing, touch it, boom, game over.

No, she decided to release the hand, she got trucked, you say, by something, somebody so small, lets her hand go and then releases the ball. No, she was trying to let her sister win finally because she was so dominant and wanted everything. And let her sister win. And you know what her sister did? Said, all right, thanks for the win. And now I'm never talking to you a fucking again.

I don't know, man. I still think the competitive spirit goes back to when they're on the farm. And they're walking to the house. And Dottie didn't even want to lose walking to the house. That's right. There's no way she dropped that on purpose. She got trucked. That's it.

On the surface, she wants to be there for Kit, but ultimately, like, the competitive fire lives within her. And this actually brings me to a question about Doddy that stood out to me in this past watching more than anything. Why is Doddy so refusing to embrace the fire she has and the passion for baseball? It's really a continual thing throughout the entire movie. Yes, she wants to have a baby with her husband. But even at the beginning when she's an old woman, she's like, oh, I don't want to go. And her daughter has to literally force her to go to the Hall of Fame ceremony because she's like, this meant a lot to you.

And she's like, no, they don't really need me. I was only there for a little bit. And then throughout the whole season, she just like continues to act like she doesn't need it. What? I got, I figured it out. What? She did it on purpose. Yeah

Go back to the very beginning The two boys are playing basketball She tells one of the boys The older boy Which she was the older one Take it easy on your brother Tells the younger brother Kill him

She gives the edge She's the older She don't want the older She likes the little younger one To get them more of the power Right there it shows No She fucking dropped the ball on purpose

And then But she's 80 I ain't listen to Also And she apparently never teaches her grandchildren how to play basketball because that motherfucker is just double jubble.

They suck. Nobody has ever taught that kid how to play basketball, apparently. Even the shot he takes, it's just fucking wild behind the back. Honestly, right there shows and proves that she did that shit on purpose. She likes the younger

person to win. She gives you sympathetic and gave it up. She purposely dropped the ball. She's the best player in the game. By a lot. No chance she drops that ball. And she did. So we got one person. Jason says definitely dropped it. Definitely dropped the ball. Castle says, although she wanted to possibly hold it, she did drop it.

Yeah, it wasn't an option. And I'm saying bullshit, she let that ball go. All right, well, before we get the thing, too, we need to talk about the coaching decision. I feel like we need to actually seriously discuss the way Dottie carried herself going in to the World Series. Because she's a fiery competitor. This goes back to my whole thing about why she won't embrace her passion for baseball. When you see her on the field, she clearly has it. She wants to win.

She tells Jimmy when he's asking her her opinion about Kit on the mound. He's like, oh, come on, let me just get one more inning. And she's like, she's battling. He's like, I said, what did you think? And she's like, she's done. She's throwing grapefruits. And Kit throws a glove at her and she pisses off the way she always does. But she's like, I want to win this game.

So ultimately that overrides it, which goes back to my reason of why I don't think she actually dropped the ball on purpose. But given that, her husband shows up. She's like, oh, I don't need this anymore. That's her attitude generally the entire film. She's like, I don't need this even though she clearly wants it. And she's the best at it. By the way, can we figure out where this is taking place? Rockford is in Illinois.

Oh, I thought it was in Georgia. No, I actually looked it up last night. Okay, so there's a little bit. And Racine is in South Dakota. It's one of those other states. One of those Dakotas? It's like Indiana or something. Okay, cool.

So just wanted to get that fact. So they are in Illinois or South Dakota in the middle states. And then Doddy decides to leave with her husband. Wisconsin. Okay, Wisconsin. Okay. Still, way over there. Cool.

So they decided to leave with her husband because he shows up for more. And she's like, I'm done with this. Leaves from game one through game six. Let's her team get into a 3-1 deficit. Tie the series at 3-3-3. Then decides, you know what? I'm decided to play. Got all the way from Wisconsin to Yosem.

Yellowstone? Yellowstone? All the way to Yellowstone and decide, you know what? I want to go back and play game seven. Reverse is coming back and is ready to play game seven. I mean, what's really at Yellowstone, right? I mean.

I don't know mountains. Stones that are yellow? You know, I don't know. I got more to jump in on this one, but I'm going to wait because I got something for later. Oh, shit. It's a greenie. It's kind of riled up right now.

She says she's not a quitter. Go off on that. She's a quitter. This is the, this is the thing. thing that absolutely drove me crazy last night. The way Doddy returns in game seven. So first of all, the way she quits is absolutely reprehensible to borrow a Stephen A. Here he comes again.

All right. She decides, not even to tell her manager, Jamie just happens to look off to the side as they're getting out the bus and sees her off in her car with her husband being like, good luck in the World Series. He has to approach her. While he's giving an autograph to a couple kids and says, avoid the clap Jimmy Duggan

Which how much Number one, how much you think that ball is worth At this point Number two, how many different things Was he riding on balls? Hey, that's good advice Oh, let's not go to the

World Series without Stillwell's toys Is he? Yeah You said him on baseball? Sure There Wow, avoid to clap Jimmy Dugan

Wow That's good advice How many different things was he riding out of balls I love the idea That Jimmy was just giving young kids great advice. She be dogan. Wow.

As that's happening, he finds Doddy leaving. She didn't tell the team. She was just going to, if she had her way, she was just going to not show up on the bus, and he was going to be like, hey, where's Doddy? And then she's just gone. Oh, no, she left home with the husband.

She didn't even bother to say by to you because you didn't matter enough to. Yeah, she wouldn't say a word. So then he approaches her about it, and he's like slinking off like this, without even say anything. You're going to regret this rest of your life. And she's just like, well, we're different. It's chicken shit, Dottie.

You want to go back home to Oregon and make 100 babies great. I'm in no position to tell anyone how to live. But sneaking out like this, quitting. You regretted for the rest of your life. Baseball is what gets inside you. It's what lights you up. You can't deny that. It just got too hard.

It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it. She just, like, is super confident that, like, she doesn't care about baseball, which, of course, you would see the error of ways and come back, but it takes to Game 7. Once the team actually makes a Game 7 series happen, then she actually just shows up. Is that the greatest three words? What? Game 7, or the greatest two words in sports is game seven.

There is. Yeah, there you go. Three words. That's syllables. Yeah. It is. It's also two words. So, not only does she show back up, but she has the, oh, fuck, audacity to not even tell him she's coming back. And then as he's just yelling, he thinks he's yelling at Alice, who's been catching, he's like, are you listening to me?

She's like, yeah, I'm listening to him. You've been yelling the whole time. And then he's just shocked to see her. And she's not even, she just thinks that he should just understand. And then when he's asking her about it, he's like, well, I don't know if you could start. We've had Alice starting last six games. Doing pretty good. We're wearing her sweaty, dirty-ass. Dirty socks. Yeah.

I can't change these. I'm playing game seven. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Game seven socks, bro? Get the fuck out of here. That's probably like game like 14 because she's even, you know, just wearing them, you know. Get better superstitions, Alice.

Do you think she wore them to? Wow. Yeah. She said. He says, Alice, you're killing me. Get her away. Yeah. They're killing.

Yeah. So then he decides to start her, but then fast forward to that whole play at the plate. If she did indeed decide to drop the ball on purpose, that was a bad managerial decision. He should have stuck with Alice. And what are you getting out of Doddy being in the lineup? You get her bat. What was the score going into the ninth inning? One nothing raised scene.

So you weren't even getting any hits out of Doddy. So in that sense, you're basically getting the same plate work. and the only difference was that your catcher decided to drop the ball at the plate, which means that Jimmy's decision to go ahead and starter ended up costing on a World Series championship. However, he loses and doesn't play Doddy who's sitting in the dugout. He's fucking out. He talks shit on there. Oh, Steve Ney was going on.

You don't play your best player? In the game seven? I don't care if she doesn't show up the entire playoffs. She comes back, you play her. Like some shit like that, you know, he's playing it. He's going to play her. He's playing her. He doesn't, and they lose.

He can't not play your best player. And she did get the two RBIs to put them ahead. But that could have come on a pinch hit. No, you can't say butt on that. He put her in for the bat, and she gave him the bat. But when you have her on the bench, you could put her in a pinch hit her whenever you want. That's what I'm saying. All right.

That's a nice 30-minute set on fucking talking about. That's the main one. It's the biggest question I've had since I watched the movie when I was. That was the main event that we wanted to tackle. I sat in the theaters. I remember watching that in the theaters. I do too, actually. Yeah, I was a little kid.

I was like, dude, what? This is the greatest movie ever, even though it's girls. I loved baseball at the time, and it was great. All right. All right. With that, yeah, let's finally go ahead and get to thing number two. Number two. Why don't girls play baseball?

I honestly say this about, in general, in most sports, it's like, why aren't they playing exactly what the men do? however make it so that we fit their physical attributes. For example, in basketball, why do we have them playing on a 10-foot court? We lower that thing to 9, 8-and-a-half. I got a point guard coming down the lane dunking the ball. Now I'm watching some girls basketball. We've got a dunk contest every year.

Dunn contest with girls doing some stuff. Jason, can you actually imagine playing on a 10-foot court? No. A 10-foot court? Or a lower court? You said 10-foot court. I think you didn't rip. Well, 10, you know what I mean?

I know, I mean. I feel like it's the same thing. Ten foot court and playing zone defense all the time. Yeah, 10 foot. You're lower to nine. There's a lot of old man biting up, yeah. A lot of, like, fouling and get away. And on baseball, why do they feel like they need to go with a big ball underhand

throws to the plate? Why can't they throw an overhand baseball? Why? And in that case, lower the offenses, so it's a little bit shorter of a hit for them to hit home runs. It's a interesting take because, you know, they throw that softball hard as fuck. It's almost as fast. It's almost as fast. But like you said, like, why did we stop at the All-American Girls Baseball League?

Exactly. Overhand throws. I want to see them because I know they have the ability to do it already. I don't see any moves. Let's see them throw some overhand. And I'm telling you, lower it. The one that women and men are equal in everything except for physical attributes. Men are bigger, bigger.

So with that, men play bigger sports. They have a 10-foot court, bigger fields. Baseball, just shore the fields a little bit. So that they're able to hit the home ones too. You could make it a softball field. It's technically solid ball. And still throw up overhand. Let's keep the thing going.

Yeah, I don't get it. I don't understand why they're not. It's in it. Soccer, maybe, soccer's the same thing. Women's soccer. Same size field? Maybe shrink the field a little bit. I don't know.

This is where you go over this. Female soccer players are ballers. They're ballers too, but I'm just saying make the game quicker. You shrink it. It makes a little more impactful. But you keep the game going on. So I'm just saying, yeah. In my opinion, females should be playing the same exact sports.

Just shrink. the fields a little bit, shrink the court size, shrink the everything so that it fits what they're capable of doing so it looks equal to what the men are doing at their size. That's what I think. It's just crazy because you watch this movie and you're like, this is actually, it got intense,

it got exciting. And where did they go from? We're playing in this baseball league that we're driving revenue, selling out stadiums, whatever, let's play softball now. I'm like, not hating on softball, because softball, like I'm telling you, watch softball players. Dude, I can't do any of it.

isn't in baseball. I think they could play baseball. But they could definitely play baseball. Absolutely. Like easily, could play baseball. The All-American Girls Professional Baseball League, which hot take, a bit of a long acronym. Little wordy. Little wordy. They could have just said America. It's, yeah, it's A-A-G-B-L.

We could have just called it the Girls Professional Baseball League. It's the same combination of my luggage. Yeah. Girls Professional Baseball League. It's fine. G-P-B-L, that's fine. It actually existed from 1943 to 1954. And after... 11 years, huh? Yeah.

Thanks to Mr. Harvey and your Harvey bars. And at the end of the movie, after the World Series, where they have a sold-out crowd in this crazy game, he's like, you know what? We'll stick with it. And you see that. And it's like a triumph moment for women and sports and everything where it's like, yeah, why can't women play baseball?

It's a great empowering moment until you realize now we're in 2020. It's like, what happened in women's baseball? I don't even see a professional softball league. It might exist. But I see college. It ends at college and I think that's it. It's like we could have been watching women's baseball all along ever since then. And it would just become a normal.

It should have just been part of our normal culture, of what we've seen. And they showed that they could play it. And I feel like the softball women, the talent that we see, in the college softball world series shows that they could do it. They could throw overhand. It's just that's not their sport that they're told they have to play. How invested we are in the characters and the players in the league. Absolutely.

Who would have been the next chat? They would have gotten better and better and better and better. Mr. Harvey, like your candy bars, you are completely nuts. I love how you actually brought up the characters because I got to point this out. I absolutely love the scene where they introduced the team. I think that's one of the best scenes just because it does it in such a great way. It channels the time. It channels the way the mindset was in the fact that we meet most of the players on the team,

but they keep telling us something feminine about them. Alice doesn't mind laying out a triple and is okay with powder in her nose to make sure she keeps her beauty uptight. Ellen is a former all-star baseball and multiple-time world champion, but she also makes great coffee. You know, like, everybody has a little... Marla Hootch. What a hitter. What a league.

What a league. And how about Marla Hootch? What a hitter. What a league. But girls playing baseball? What a league. She just sitting there. Like fucking 50 feet away.

Because... What a hair. That part was funny when I was. It's eight. It's funny when I'm older, because they're doing a good job. Explain to everybody that she's just 20 feet away. Yeah. What a hitter.

She's not even hitting in the... All right now, lefty. Oh, she's a switch hitter, which, by the way, hitting batting practice in a gym? Indoorse. Bad idea. Windows. It shows to be a bad idea multiple times. She almost hits, like, three different guys.

We watch her take batting practice for, like, less than two minutes. What are all those guys coming from? They're sitting there. Why are they not at war, right? Why is it raining so hard outside? I mean, that's understandable. Why do they have a first basement? Yeah. Why do they got positions going on?

Nobody's, like, ready for her to hit the ball the whole time. They're like, whoa, what is that? And then she knocks out two windows within like 40 seconds. Papa Hooch is like, you know, I raised her as a little boy, I'd an owner, but I'm like, no, bro. You raise a kid that's hitting baseballs inside. You are a complete fuck. You're crazy, dude. Crazy.

You're off your rocker. I remember hearing that in certain parts of the country because it gets so rainy. And I think it almost looks like it's hailing in that scene. That's just how they did it. But either way, bad idea to try to hit a ball inside because she knocks out two windows. And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. It's like, what do the fuck do you expect? Yeah, you're literally facing 100 yards away from a window, like a wall full of windows.

Dude, indoor baseball might be dope. Like foot sole? Without windows, though. No, I'm saying. You know how you have soccer where you're able to hit off the wall? Yeah, you just hit it. It bounces, but you still got to field it wherever it goes. No home runs.

It just hits the wall, bounces. You're like, oh, get a bow. You got to run it. Dude, indoor baseball might be. It could be fun. A thing. They need to set it up in a real, like, this was made to be indoor baseball. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and you got to play out the wall and everything. They play off the wall, like a racquetball. Like, make the ball bounceier or two, so it's like, you know. Yeah. No, I look at the idea. People are getting balls to face. Yeah. That's part of the game, bro.

A racquetball? I know. I know. Part of the game. Anyway, but yes. Why aren't girls playing baseball? Well, first of all, because, you know, the way the world works and they force them down, which sucks. And I would love to see it.

I would love to see it. However, like I said, I just need a little bit smaller courts on basketball, smaller fields and baseball. I mean, they're already doing UFC. I love watching that. What are the sports? Tennis, they already killed that. That's the thing is, like, most sports at this point, I'd say other than football, which I understand why. They have football.

Have you ever seen this? They have like football leagues. Well, they have the laundry football. No, but I'm saying like smaller leagues. Like I have a girl on my flag football team. They literally like plays an attack of football league. They just won a champion. They had to go to Vegas to play it and it's crazy.

That's a good point. So like literally baseball is the only sport I just have not seen women play. They just fell off the face of the year. It just did. They just decided it's softball. That's what women do. And I feel like that had to be the same way these women dealt with, you know, sexism. And men just being assuming that they can't do things.

because they're women and you're supposed to be, oh, Betty Spaghetti can play great ball, but look at how great she makes pasta and look at her sewing ability and Ellen can hit the ball. She's a multi-time champion, but look at her coffee. Like, I understand they, there was a,

I feel like the reason that we ended up in an era where women play softball, not baseball, literally just goes back to a very sexist mindset. And I, for one, would love to see a women's baseball league come back. The fact that we end this movie with this happy, moment we're like, we'll stick with it, and it's 22, and we still don't have a women's baseball league. They just stay with stick with it, and then they stuck with it for like a couple years.

They stuck with it for 12 years. Yeah, it was a real thing. All right. Point is, I think women should be able to play baseball, and I'd love to see it again, you know? I agree. So, let's go ahead and dive in, finally, the thing number three. Number three. And that, of course, means it's time for the thingies. It's time for the awards.

Thing is. Thingies, thingies, thingies, thing, Tink, Yankee. Okay. Started out for the MVP, who's the MVP of a league of their own.

Jason, let me do again. Oh, man. I know, because we're all going to agree here. Are we all going to agree on this? Justin, do you have a different one? No, he has a different one. He has a different one. He has a blankster.

All right. He's just a brilliant. I agree. I agree with you. He scales it. You get every emotion. You get all the one-liners. You get all the jokes.

Yeah. The most iconic line from that movie. is there's no crying in baseball. I don't even play baseball. I like to be a hater. But that is the number one line for that whole movie. He is. He's really good.

He pisses for fucking... That's some long peeing. I really enjoy that move where you scratch your balls for an hour. Anything worth doing is worth doing it right. I agree. Well, I can certainly use the money. I agree.

I got Jimmy Dugan too because Tom Hanks, I honestly think this is my favorite Tom Hanks performance. He just becomes Jimmy Dugan. You know this character. You know who this person is, what he's been through, and you're watching him go through this whole process,

and you're believing it. You know this is a guy who was once a great player, who wants no part of this league. And there's that important scene when he was told basically, yeah, just go out there and wave your little red hat, and there's an awesome scene where he's like, kiss my ass. And then he doesn't give a fuck about the rest of it.

but because he loves baseball, he starts to watch a little bit, see somebody leg out a triple, and he's like, oh, it's a good hit. And then they tell Marla, Doddy, who's managing, taken over because he's not doing shit. He's like giving her the bunt signal. And then he steps up. You're like a bunt with your best hitter. Yeah.

And I love that scene, because that scene is such a good, like, pivotal moment. Because not only does that when Jimmy decides he's actually going to care about this team because he wants him to win, but then you also get Doddy showing her. her leadership and you also get classic marla kind of like in and out of the batters box like not sure what she's supposed to do what are you stupid somebody's got to run the team jimmy you know someone who actually watches the games you guys squeeze butt with our best hitter what's the sign of swing away hey blind girl what's the sign to swing away it's the letters the infield's deep the squeeze of work stop thinking when your titch won a big inning you're

better time my damn manager I am. You act like you big lush. You felled daddy. I love that. So that's just a great turning point of the movie. And then he obviously ends up developing a strong relationship with these players. Let me just say this, though.

Hot take. I know why they did include this in the movie. But if we're being realistic, and Jimmy Dugan is the man that they told us that he is and everything, right? The way we've seen. I don't know where you going with this. He's definitely trying to hook up with some of the. these players, right?

Come on. He's definitely tried. You don't think him in all the way May end up doing something together if this is really happening? May was probably down. May would have been down. You know he would have been down. Just the fact that when he's passed out on the bus and they're broken down and what's the chaperone's name? Does anybody remember her name? The older woman. By the way, I love you to the wizard.

Yeah. And she goes to wake him up and his instinct is just grab her and start making out with her. Like, his instinct is that. Like, he, even says when he first talks to what's the guy's name ever in cuthbert cuthbert cuthbert yeah i think that's it and then uh he talks to the guy mr lowenstein and he's like ira lowenstein he's like i don't go get on the bus was that was that english yeah he's like i don't got ballplayers i got girls sure you'd like to hook up with them but to watch a play he says something like that now jim you have some pretty good ball players here you're only giving a little bit of your He's not ball players.

I've got girls. Girls are what to sleep with after the game. And I'm not with your coach during the game. He says something to the effect of that. So that obviously shows that this is on the forefront of this guy's mind. So I understand why they wouldn't put that in the movie. But if I'm putting myself in the mind that Jimmy Dugan has, I'm thinking him and all the way it may go all the way throughout the whole season.

I'm just thinking that's got to happen. But just one more reason why he's MVP is the arc. character. He's all of us in the beginning. Like girls baseball? I don't know. I don't really want to watch this movie. Yeah. He grows and then at the very end, like he's giving advice. Yeah. He's making the lineup decision. He's doing scratching his balls for an hour.

I agree. He's doing it all, though. But his arc is like, it's all of us. It's like, he at the end, he's like, these girls can actually fucking play. I was going to save this for later, but I wonder where this actually ranks on a patheon of great sports movies. And to me, it's right at the top. which is kind of amazing because if you just told me that there was a movie about girls playing baseball, my instinct is not to be like, oh, I got to go see that. But you watch it, and it just brings out emotion in you. Straight up, I can't get through this movie without cheering up at least once, dude.

It gets me when the guy comes through the door and delivers the telegram, and that guy. Can we go off on here real quick? Justin wants to go off for that guy. Yeah, this guy. guy, dude. Guy walks in prior to game seven, first of all. It's about to be game.

No, it's not in the playoffs. Just as regular season. That's right. It's a regular season game. They're about to get ready for a game, though. The game's about the start. It comes in, and he's like, I got a telegram from one of your ladies. Gonna let you one of your husbands died?

God, I hate these. I got to hate these. Anyway, all right, I can't figure out who it is. I got to go back to the office and sort this out. Like, what? You're going to leave the whole team just sitting there, like one of our husbands died? We'll go play the game. No big deal.

And then I got to be honest, give me that. Give me that fucking thing. And then I got to be honest, to this day, even when I talk about it, the scene of hurry him going up to Dottie and Betty Spaghetti, them looking at each other and him going. Brutal. I'm sorry, Betty. It got it right here.

It got it again. Joy! Joy! Oh, dude, I get chills every fucking time. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? No more spaghetti for everyone. No more spaghetti, for sure.

Yeah, there goes. She takes some time off in the pasta. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Oh, I got to hate these. They gotta hate it. Right. Well, I gotta go sort this out.

That guy works with the military. There's no way they don't have a definite procedure. Like, you have to approach, you do a salute, you have like American flag. He's all got to let you know what of your husband's died. That guy sits in the backseat of an F-16 for sure. Yeah. But why didn't he know the name? I've never understood that because Jimmy's able to figure it out.

So he had the name right there. Like, why is he? noodling around with it like I got out actually because he's an idiot that guy sucks at his job should have sent somebody else to do that but yeah no this movie

it gets you like that it gets you in scenes like that it gets you surprisingly with stillwell old stillwell angel you know you know adult a K.A

okay no when he's an adult I know he does that when he's an adult too he says that mom pass aka yeah and he talks about how his mom died but she said this was the most the best moments of her life. She also was the one that came up with the song that we sang at the beginning. She did.

I actually picked up on that for the first time this time, because she says she wants to put together a song. Oh, we're the members of the All-American League. We come from cities, near and far. We've got Canadians. Oh, Irish men's and sweets. We're all for one. We're one for all.

We're all Americans. Real quick note, a little adult still well angel. classic 80s run on that guy. Okay, let's go through it real quick. So he was Teen Wolf. He was Chubs. Chubs. Right?

He was the dude from Peewee's Big Adventure, who was like his main foil, who, like, stole his bike, you know? And then, little-known role that is actually probably the best baseball comedy scene maybe ever in Naked Gun. Have you guys ever seen Naked Gun? Yeah. Great baseball scene. And then he, uh, Leslie Nielsen, knocks out the guy who does the national anthem. And he pretends like he's him and he's just butchering it. Enrico Polaro.

And then at the end of the movie, they're like, that's no umpire, because he pretend he's the umpire. He takes off his gear and he shows himself to the crowd. And then there it is, still Will Angel. Stance up and he goes, hey, it's Erico Palazzo! Then the whole crowd starts chanting it. That's not the umpire, your honor. Hey! It's Enrico Palazzo!

That guy had a run in the 80s, just for being sort of like the fat kid who looks like an adult, like child, you know? He maximizes his potential. Big baby. Shout out, adult still will angel. Your mom was a great woman. So we all agree. No, you did. MVP.

You didn't give your MVP. I said, I agreed. Oh, you seemed like you wanted to Zad. I did. I wanted to hate. Well, who were you going to go with? No, as I thought about it, I mean, Dottie was my MVP because she's the Dottie. Oh, we just ripped her a new one.

Yeah. I mean, I still said it. Well, Dottie was the MVP of the team, so I would have got it. Team, movie, film. But, no, I agree. Clearly everything you guys said, Tom Hanks, clear MVP of the movie. Okay. Next.

Six men off the bench award. We've just been talking about him. Still will. Come on. The kids? Still well. Still well. It still will.

It comes down. Causes a ruckus. Has chocolate all over his face. runs outside, they stop the truck. He just continues to stay in the movie as this little annoying kid that you're just like, God, I hate that kid, but it's still a little angel. You know, it's like, I hate him, but I got to give him his chocolate. You know, I got to give him his chocolate.

She gives him chocolate after he straight causes the bus driver to quit because he puts his hands over his eyes. Have another chocolate. And her response is have more chocolate. So he's being rewarded for. causing the bus driver to quit. And with that, the bus driver is walking to absolutely nowhere. There is nowhere within fucking 20 miles. He just walks out of walking. He just gives out of walking. Never regret a decision in your life? That one right there. You know what I actually notice this time that I never noticed before is as he's walking away and misses, what's her name?

Cuthbert? Cuthbert. He just throws a handful of dirt in her face. No, no. Dude, he is really over this job. Dude, he's just like, no, I'm not, I'm not even putting on an actor and I'll fuck away from me right now. I'm going to murder a kid. It's more like sit. And then right after that, she's as sick as she's ever been. Well, no, that's because they poison them so they can go out. To a roadhouse called the Suds Bucket. Yeah.

So anyways. Do I just want to talk about the Suts Bucket for a second? Dude, I would have got down. I got commentary on the Suts bucket. I would have got down. I probably look like the party place. Like, first of all, May's getting down. Marla's getting down.

Everybody was just getting... I'm singing in Nelson. I'm saying, Hey, baby. Quick question there. Who gave Marla a live mic? This goes back to our Topka an episode. Oh, no, she was drinking, man.

She took control of that, man. She just took control. The band is playing. This is not a live karaoke spot. She just somehow gets on stage with her absolute inability to sing. Well, understand that there was no other live music. So people probably do this often, really. Like, I got a song.

Let me get up there. She was drinking, and she was a free spirit of that night. And yeah. And then, yeah. So you say, You've seen this kind of thing. You've seen this kind of thing go about it. No, I'm just saying I can imagine.

Would there no other being a jukebox or anything like that? And all they have is live music. They're like, oh, you want to sing? Come on up here. It had to be. She was playing for an audience of one, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's our.

Say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm singing in Nelson. And he's like, A-D-I-Babee. All right. I'm going to go ahead and bring this question. Ain't I, baby.

I'm going to bring this question up now. them prior to Marla, had Nelson ever kissed a girl? No, that's his first. Never. That's his first. He fell in love and married her. The first girl that goes to a roadhouse. What was it called?

The Sun's Bucket. He's finally got a girl that's into him. It's the one that they've decided is the ugliest girl on the team. And they go to lengths to make sure you realize. And the first time I feel like this guy's ever got a girl that's interested in him, they're getting married like two weeks later. Yeah, it's a quick turn. Automatic.

And he takes her out of the league, which to me is almost possibly more unforgivable than Dottie just. Best hitter. You took the second bas-binners out between the two of them. And the only reason that I think Dotties is worse is because she wasn't even going to tell Jimmy. She just tried to slink off. At least Marla made an announcement. She was like, bye, I'll see you next season. Which, by the way, they've all known.

this league is in trouble. She did leave, huh? They didn't have Marla. She never came back. No game 7 Marla. Dude, you can't have not out of her. That's the number three, number four right there. They win the World Series if she's there.

I don't know, they're down 3-1. Maybe that's why they're down 3-1. They only were down 1. They're not winning their first game down 10. They were only down 1 in the game 7. Marlowe makes that difference for sure. He was their best hitter. Ain't I, baby.

Ain't I baby? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The baby. Yeah. Could I just say a second, a seventh man is all the way, May.

Madonna. Oh, Madonna. We just talked about Madonna for a second. I'm doing six-seven. I'm doing six and seventh place because you got still well, but Madonna just, I remember being a kid and we like, dude, Madonna is amazing.

Well, this was peak Madonna, too. Peak Madonna. Like, 1992, that was when she had already become a huge star throughout the 80s. That was La Risa, Bonita. Oh. Lottisla. Vourniz.

That did I get it. Yeah. And then she brings it home with this, used to be my playground. This used to be. It used to be a childhood dream. All right. No.

Yeah. So, who's your sixth man, Steve? Mine is easy. John Lovitz. Oh, dude, that's a little bit of mine, too. Oh, man.

It has to be. John Lovitz just cooks every second he's on scene in this movie. Every scene he had. He is. constantly hilarious. I just wish they would have brought him back at something. Yeah, he came back in the Hall of Fame thing. Yeah, for a quick cigar, for a quick cigar.

But I just would, like, maybe later in the scene, he just came back for another two-minute assholes. He should have been at Game 7, right? He should have shut up. You're right. You're right. Good point. It's actually funny because he almost has a line about it when they're first going to the tryout. And they're like, oh, what do you're going?

He's like, oh, I have to get my pickle tickled. Give the wife a little pickle tickle. Oh, is that what he said? Yeah. And then he's like, and then they're, and they're, and. Oh, dry your ass. And he's like, go, tryouts, play. It's been a thin slice of heaven.

Goodbye. Wait, you're going? Ah, dry your eyes. Yeah, I'm just going home, grab a shower and a shave, give the wife a little pickle tickle, and I'm on my way. I'll see you. Yeah, but do. But what?

Field, tryouts, play. That's it. Get lost. Come on, boss. I hate when they get attached to me like that. So they're literally like channeling our inner selves. to be like, but we want more John Lovitz. Are you really saying you're leaving the movie right now?

And he's like, God, I hate it when they get so attached to me. The fucking cow moves. Will you shit up? I could listen to John Lovitz yell at farm animals all day. You, shut up! The way he starts, like, kicking the chickens, and he's like, get out. Get these wild animals.

Doesn't that hurt them? Haven't you ever heard of a leash? No. You know, if I had your job, I'd kill myself. Yeah. Sit here, I'll dig up a pistol. Yeah, yeah. When he's...

A hundred and ten percent. Sir, your knee. Like it? That's what the Sixth Man Award is all about to me. Absolutely one of a sense. Somebody who just maximizes every second that they're on the screen. And John Lovitz literally, from the moment he shows up to every scene he's a part of, literally just carries it. They'll pay you $75 a week.

We only make $30 at the dairy. Well, then. would be more, wouldn't it? You interested? Come on. $75 a week. Pull her leg for a while. Mine long enough already. Look, your country needs you and you can not only play ball, but you're kind of a dolly. That's what we're looking for. Oh, now I did it. Listen, Mr. I'm a married woman. My husband's overseas. Oh, relax. I'm talking, looking no touchy. Just that we want girls who are easy on the eye. Well, I'll go. I'm ready. I'm ready right now. I got to sign something. I don't want you.

I want her. The one who hit the ball. You can climb back under the cow. I don't want you. I want her. The one who actually hit the ball. Don't you climb back up on that horse? Under the cow.

You see, the way it works is the train moves, not the station. John Lovitz is one of the easiest six-man awards I've ever had because... I want to feel like he wrote all those jokes or just let him improv or something. I feel like, yeah, he had to be in on the writing because it's very John Lovie. Very John Lovitz. Yeah. I know, so that's an easy one for me. That's my six, man.

All right. Still Will. Madonna and John Lovich, I like it. By the way. Used to be. Yeah, yeah. May Mordabito, by the way. Great name.

Moradabito. Yeah. Eminem. All right. And what's our third and final? Who is the practice squad player that we maybe could lose from this film? I'm going to jump in real quick. Hit it.

It's Doddy's husband. Get the fuck out of here, bro. Oh, man. You ruined everything. Yeah. Because if anyone knows how talented, if anyone knows how talented Dottie is is her husband, right?

It's like, wait, I've been away at war and you're fucking smacking the ball and making a name for yourself and making his money. And you're in the finals? And you made the game seven. But you don't know, no, no, let's go to Yellowstone because I'm a selfish fuck. Well, he is, he needs to not be in that movie.

I put, I put that on Dottie though for, and in K-Fa-wise, right? Because even Jimmy asked her, at one point. Like, does he know how good you are? And she's like, no, my God. She just never talk about it, right? Even, which it's like, okay, he's a way of warrior writing letters.

How do you not bring up your whole baseball league, you know, what you're doing? So the fact is to him, he's just coming to get her from doing this hobby that she's been wanting to do. And so she's just deciding to not tell him about it. And then when he shows up, she's like, yeah, I don't need this. Let's go. So what, does he got to twist her arm? He should be like, no, you got to stay.

Look at like, you should have. Look what you're leaving. Bill Pullman. Fucking Bill Pullman. Anyway, that's mine. Well, I, I. Stay at the war, dude. I hear you, but I also think that he is needed to give, uh, Dottie, her whole confusion about whether or not she wants to stay with the league.

And it goes back to my main question back at the star where it's like, why is Dottie so not willing to embrace her passion for baseball? She puts Bill Pullman over all of it. So, I'm going to, I'm going to go. with Dottie and Kitt's parents, specifically their dad. Because this is what the fuck. Let them talk in the kitchen. They're talking.

Your father's listening to the radio. Keep your voice down. Your father's listen to the radio. Like, fuck you. Get the fuck out of the movie. What are you doing here? Nobody cares about you. We're talking over here. We never even saw him.

Yeah, you just over there listen to the radio. Like, they're getting to shut up. I'm listening. I'm listening. And I get the fuck out of your dad. Like, we all have a vision for what you're like. They're over here milking your cows. And,

fucking working your thing. You didn't even go have the audacity to go see their game that they just got done playing. And they were like slicing you bread and shit? Yeah. Kid just asked you to grab your glove so you can play baseball. There was no chance he was ever going to grab his fucking glove to go play baseball. He's listening to the fucking radio.

That's my, they can leave. Both the parents, your father is listening to the radio. Get the fuck out of here, mom, dad. That's my season. That's a good one too. They even have multiple scenes where he's referenced but not seen when she's like, Daddy, get your glove. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, exactly. And there's no way. saw him, there's no chance he was grabbing a glove. He was not. Yeah. If you listen really closely, he's probably like, uh, radio. Exactly. So that's my, uh, was it?

Steve, who you got? John Lovitz was it creepier and intriguing when he was like grabbing Kitt's arm? And I was like, huh. You're a pitcher, huh? Like, how are, how strong could her arm have been? It looks pretty strong. Yeah, but not that's not. No. Hot take.

Uh-oh. Let's get still out of there. I don't need them. What? It's annoying, dude. You're taking out my six men? Yeah. The only reason I enjoy Stillwell's presence is because he comes back and gives an emotional moment in the Hall of Fame.

My Joltz-Billy, you could have lost that, too. I don't know. I don't have any of the annoying kid. So we have the comical early 90 shots of the kid covering his eyes while the girls are changing and everything. Like, I don't know. His best scene was getting hit by the glove because he nailed it. It was a good full-circle validation that he finally. got hit by that.

The scene is funny when her mom's asking, you know, Mr. Dugan to bring him. Okay. I do. I literally do. All right. Ball players. I will admit this. In which case, I don't, if that's the case, he's a sweet little boy.

I actually have it written. One of my favorite scenes. Tom Hanks' non-conversation with Eleanor. Because the whole time, this is still when he's just not. sold on the idea. And he hasn't, yeah, hasn't talked.

All he's done is just shown up, take like a three-minute long piss, been drunk all game, doesn't even pay attention what's happening. And she tries to have

a whole conversation with him. And the whole time, he's just staring at her. Like, why are you standing in front of me? And he doesn't even give her a response to the whole thing. Like she gives him the story.

He doesn't. Yeah, that's all he does. And he gets like a spit. Yeah. That was one of my favorite literally conversations of the whole thing.

movie because he doesn't even say anything but that's why i love him so much in this movie because he doesn't even need to so i just want you to know your one of your favorite scenes in the movie would not have happened had you got rid of steel well no i know it's a hard one i'm just giving you the full circle here all right all right i got contradicting yourself all right all right fine i got another one you know how rosy o'd donnell uh doris had like two random like nerdy guys that were around everywhere getting our flowers. Just make that one. Yeah, he'd lose one of the other guys.

The twins? Just make it the one guy. Yeah, were the twins? All right, there we go. I only need one of those. Yeah, they did love her. That's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which...

They never showed us. They made it up, though. They brought her dad around. He's like, I'm taking out for a steak dinner. Just telling everybody, yeah, I just got a stick dinner. It was like, how many people are you going to tell you going to fucking steak dinner?

That scene is literally just that scene. I'm just that. And it changes. They didn't even need to add that. It's funny. On that note, no better opportunity to bring this up. Did you guys ever notice the picture of Rosie O'Donnell's

boyfriend that chains up thrown up? Ripping up and throwing up. So long Charlie. It's so long Charlie. That guy's picture is it a big. He looks like a fucking schmuck. He's like got a white feeder with like suspenders and a straight unibrow and he's like looking at the camera like

he's pissed. Yeah. Like he's holding his backpack straps. I never noticed before I watch it last night. That is such a funny like this is your boyfriend? Yeah, he smells and he treats me Yeah, no, and they're like, is the camera blurry? And you're like, nope, that's just how he looks. Dars, is this your boyfriend?

Yep. Is it out of focus? No, that's how he looks. Well, you know, looks aren't the most important thing. That's right. The important thing is he's stupid, he's out of work, and he treats me bad. Final notes and hot takes, let's start it off with the girl that can't read. Why was Ben giving her a porno to read?

Like, there's so much other material. Wait, can I just, this might be, you know, a dumb question. But how do you not know how to read your own name? Exactly what I was about to ask. This girl doesn't know how to read her name. Right, maybe besides cat or dog. If there's one thing that you should know how to read in life, it's your name. Like, how do you, how old is she?

She's got to be like, what, mid-20s at least? Oh, yeah. She's never seen her name written out? Possibly not. Now, I'm going to go with you. If we look into that, maybe there's a thing where girls weren't learning how to read Yeah, and she was

People in general were learning how to read But she did make the team So that means she was Playing baseball So she was Anyway All right Milky

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It gets better Yeah It's classic I love how Jimmy Dugan Sips his flask To clean his mouth out That's her Kissing Mrs. Keper

That's a great point I just love the idea that like that's what cleanses him. He's like, he grabs the plastic, and just throws it back, tosses one back real quick. You guys enjoyed the look

of the front rolls with a hat back look, 40s, hair stuff? You know how the girls had the, all the girls have the, like, front rolls? And then their hats behind that, yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Enjoy it. Especially, um, Betty spaghetti. Oh, yeah. Betty's spaghetti, that's my girl.

Oh, see, I love the whole team. Yeah. What a hitter. Even the girl that she says, it's separate and spread. There should be two. I was like, she looks fine. And separate. Oh, we forgot about that whole scene, too.

Oh, and they teach them how to do class. Gracefully and grandly. I feel like that scene was literally like. Doris is just going ham on the fries. Crackers and cookies and biscuits. And it was almost just shown to show how much Marla doesn't have grace because she's just doing this thing. Like, yeah, basically.

And then all the way, May, looking at Ira, just like, we're going on the way. Oh, yeah. She banged them in the... Oh, for sure, bang. No, they did. And then she gets out of the communion. All right, so let's talk about that real quick. What happened in that communion thing?

Because I always thought when I was younger, did she just, like, go do something with a priest in there? And then this past time, I was like, maybe he was just like, oh, my God, she told me so many sins. It was her professional that he just got all sweaty and hot and mother. Okay. When I was literally younger, I was like... That was the definition of hot and bothered, sweaty.

Yeah, yeah. Like, why are you getting sweaty, that? And she gave a little wink and shit. Yeah, no, Madonna was so... Speaking of Madonna. And then he opened the door so... Sweety. So he's sweaty and just...

Father. That's the second time he's dropped the Bible in there. Okay, so speaking of all the way, May, and remember, we go back to the Suds Bucket Roadhouse, that whole dance scene, and they just basically let Madonna cook there for a while. She's cooking. She's basically going back and forth between two guys.

Remember that? And they're battling each other, and they keep getting mad that she's dancing with the other guy, and then basically one of the guys is just kind of does this super like generic stuff. And then the other guy is like an established swing dancer, right? He starts like throwing her around his legs and she's doing all the stuff with him. She looks like a razor Ramon actually when I think about it.

So then basically that guy wins the dance battle. But then when they come back to later in the scene, she's making out with the other guy that basically, it's a classic example of the guy who just sticks it out. He just stands around and lingers. Oh, God. And just hangs around and just won't like, oh, no, no, she's really dancing really well with this guy.

I'm just going to hang around. He's gonna stand here And the next you know He's one he's like making out with his stuff See it too many times Yeah The Nick Cobbs of the world I mean

The only reason is because I know they won't this Catching the rebounds Catching the rebounds By the way college Not now Nick Nobody now Stop saying names Stop saying Nick

I'm only saying it's because they This is just college Just hanging around the rim Grabbing rebounds Let me get some putbacks in here What else you got? What are the hot takes? I absolutely love

As Jimmy is going to war with Eleanor about missing the sign and he has the whole year there's no cry in him baseball because he says Rogers Hornsby was my manager and he called me all talking vile of pig shit and that was when my parents came 60 miles just to see me play the game and did I cry?

No, because all that here's why I love that because Rogers Hornsby is one of the early great players in Major League Baseball and he is a legendary asshole apparently he had like KKK affiliations I've heard that

What's the word? With that name, I believe it. What's the word? Allegedly. Allegedly. I don't know exactly if that's like. But I literally looked up Rogers Hornsby asshole. Like one of the first things I saw a website.

It said, Rogers Hornsby, he was a magnificent asshole. Which I thought, what a great way to scrabbing an asshole. Are you crying? No. Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no crying. There's no crying.

Crying in baseball? Why don't you leave her alone, Jimmy? Oh, you zip it, Doris. Rogers Hornsby was my manager, and he called me a talking pile of a pig ship. And that was when my parents drove all the way down from Michigan to see me play the game. And did I cry? No, no. No.

And you know why? No. Because there's no crying in baseball. There's no crying in baseball. No crying. Catch a ball, get a kiss. Great promo. Right?

I actually think that doing that promo is what really turned the league on. You know, catch a foul ball, get a kiss. Or Doddy doing the splits. That helps. Life Magazine putting that out there, which brings me to this. What happens when Doddy hits a foul ball and like some sailor catches the ball? Doddy's not going for it, right? She sends Alice.

She goes, I'm a married woman. Yeah, she says May. May. Oh, yeah, May is a team player. There's an ever-so slight nod to the racial bigotry that was happening at the time. You know about the one spot where the girl throws the black girl throws the balls? Yeah.

A mile. Cannon. And by the way, there's no way she throws it that far and it hits the glove of the person and the person goes, ow. Way too far of a throw. I don't know. How much speed did it have come out? It doesn't matter.

There's no chance to have that no velocity to hit smacker glove and go, oh. I feel like if they want it to, maybe if this movie was done now, they would probably hit that a little bit harder. but I do at least appreciate that it was like tip of the cap to that's all they did to it and it was a quick tip like it was a little like subtle little nod she just gives a little head nod

and moved on man they got in and out of that subject like within five ten seconds crazy director's like fine we shot it you happy back to Madonna now let's go go all the way let's go all the way what's harder the behind the back catch that daddy does or the hat catch that may does Yeah, in the back.

You think? Have you ever tried to catch a full-on outfield fly ball with the hat? It's not easy. It'd be easier than catch it behind your back. That is more tricky. Doris would fuck up, Kit, and just have that written down.

Oh, with that fight? They had a fight. Doris would definitely... She's got like 100 pounds on her easily, I think. And beyond that, she's just more... She's just rough. She's an athlete. She's just the rougher one of the groups.

Demolish her, and then her father would take her out for a steak den. Quote that I've always loved Literally since my childhood Is Ellen coming in with Has anybody seen my little red hat? Oh, piss on your hat Right after Doddy and Kit have their blowout

I always just, I remember thinking that was layers Why that one part sticking my head in that movie? Has anyone seen my hose? Has anyone seen my holes? You guys remember that part? No. Why did that part stick out? I don't know.

I'm thinking about the cone bras. Also, Ellen, she's just such Like literally the only reason she's there the whole time is she's just like the nice saintly one where like Jimmy decides, all right, before game seven, I'd like to lead us in a prayer. And they're just like, what? And he's like, I've got to lead us in a prayer. And Ellen's just like, oh, how lovely. Yeah, how lovely. She's just there to be the nice one.

Doris, a bit much in the final at bat. Why, it comes down to Kit down to the final out. she literally throws one strike and Doris is over there at third base gone thank you god oh my god but she also keeps it going on strike two and he goes one more she does one more can you imagine watching a world a world series game that comes out of game seven and it's strike one and the third baseman's out there like thank you god like she honestly deserved everything that happened to her including i mean she played it perfectly she got the ball through it She did what she needed to do

And then she ends up Walking through the halls being like, we had it Until the last battle You know, whatever she's saying Either way, honestly, Rosie O'Donnell, great character This movie. She seems like a legit ball player And apparently she was actually the best player on the team.

Final questions, Did Kit just think that Dottie hated her? Because she's shocked at the end that Dottie actually like says she loves her and misses her and she's going to miss her. She like, camped.

believe that she's like, really? Me? You're going to miss me? It's your fucking sister. Well, the kid's an emotional wreck. Yeah. I guess so.

All right. Last question. Can you imagine just walking by a park and seeing just like a team of grandmas playing a full on competitive game of baseball? Aggressive game too. Like yelling at the umbire kicking dirt on his shoes and shit? Yeah. Can I imagine it?

In jeans and sweaters? Can I imagine it? I definitely drive by, but like, oh, look at that. And then keep driving. Like, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be astounding. Yeah. I could care less. You like, let them play.

Yeah, whoa. My grandma couldn't do that. You know what I mean? No, mine cannot. I would get home and be like, hey, I drove by the park and there's a bunch of old ladies playing ball. It was getting pretty aggressive. Did I see you barrel a catcher over? Anyway, what's, yeah.

And move on. It's it. That's how far that would go. You also never brought up the catcher that wanted to. encouraged Kit that they only had one. You said that was going to be your MVP. Yeah, I switched it up. I switched it up.

All right. You got a change of heart. Yeah. But I just wanted to... You got a hit. She's, yeah. Kid, one more run and we are in this game. Like, she's actually the MVP of Racine.

Fuck, Kit. They carry her off. Catch her girl. She put up with Mays bullshit, kicking her mask and shit. Yeah. That girl hangs in there. Anyways, I think we've circled the drain enough on this. That is a league of their own.

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