Dissect DJs - Any Given Sunday (1999) - Dissected!

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Episode 132 dissects the groundbreaking football film that broke all the rules with the 1999 Oliver Stone classic Any Given Sunday!  Starring Al Pacino, Jamie Foxx and Cameron Diaz, we go full blitz on the movie that did everything it could to peel back the curtain to show what it takes charge from the locker room to the gridiron to the Super Bowl... or Pantheon Cup.Is it the best football movie of all time? Is Tony D'Amato actually a good coach? Where does his pregame speech rank in the history of speeches? What's the most 1999 thing about the movie? Was Christina Pagniacci a shrewd or savvy team owner? Did Willie Beamen change the game for QBs? And who was the movie's MVP, 6th Man, and who was the "practice squad player" that we could we have done without?We tackle it all - GAME TIME!See the Video Podcast: https://youtu.be/fV0yjQDTJN0 Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Either we heal now as a team. Or we will die as individuals. That's football guys. That's all it is. Now, what are you going to do? It is Super Bowl season. What better way to celebrate our favorite time of year of our favorite sport? And go ahead and combine two of the greatest mediums.

football and movies and dissect any given Sunday from 1999. And to properly do this, I had to bring in the Dream Team Squad, the Jam Wagon Crew, joining us once again, Jason Waitang Malibuyak. Hey, I had to make the drive-out for this. We'll do the shark celebration a couple of times probably. Yeah, that's right. And then, of course, with me as always, who has come game day ready. Justin, DJ Jagger, Garcia.

DJ, what's going on, everybody? I can't ready. And you need to check the YouTube feed out to see this. He has come full on, geared up, steal his helmet and all. I had the solar flat in the car. I didn't want to do all that, so I should have. But he brought his helmet. Safety first.

Headphones around it because those are effective at this point. I think I'm going to take this off, though, because it's a little... You need to. I can't hear it. I don't want you to keep it on. It was a good... The joke was there. The joke was there.

This is going to be great. The joke landed. The joke kind of wears off pretty quickly, especially when it's a podcast that most people are just listening to. So go watch the YouTube. That's a dark helmet from Space Balls. there. Exactly. So let's start here. Is any given Sunday the greatest football movie of all time? I would want to say, yeah, because of recency bias and I had a great time watching that two and a half hour epic. But there's just way too many. I mean, you're talking NFL or we go college, we go high school.

So, I mean, this isn't an NFL movie per se, but that's also one of the things that's always confused me about it. It's this other league that's undefined. It's not clear what. They mentioned that the cross-town dolphins are like doing this and that, which always confused me, because it's like, okay, is this a spring league? The early version of like the XFL that was actually like a successful version? Like, what is this league? It's never really explained what the Pantheon Cup is. But I think the reason for it is just because they don't want to pay the copyright rights.

And I don't think the NFL, I don't think the NFL would have signed off on this at all. There's a lot of stuff going on in this movie that I don't think the NFL would have been like, yeah, let's put our name on that. So they had to go with this whole fake league. It had to be the Miami Sharks. Plus, let's be honest. Dolphins versus Sharks. Like, I don't know, man.

Sharks has a little more bite to it. Does, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. But, you know, a school of porpoises, you never know. Is it the same as a dolphin? I'm not 100% sure. It gets a little hairy and trying to figure out which one of those are fish and mammals. But you might be able to dive this in sooner.

I think you got nailed it. They think there was some copyright issues. I think because they addressed concussions for a little bit that the NFL was like. That was early because they were like, now we ain't talking about that yet. And the NFL was like, shh. We got 15 years before we need to even bring that up. That's what's crazy is this is in 1990. It's a huge part of this movie,

and the NFL doesn't actually even start addressing it as a thing. It's almost like the one that actually blew the cover off it, that they were like, okay, we got to start doing something about this. Was that concussion movie with Will Smith. I think maybe it's because at that point social media existed, and now there's like a whole lot more noise, you know, in the inner space about it, that they actually have to actually respond to it.

But yeah, this movie, it becomes a huge cornerstone of the movie, and we'll get into that. But that's definitely why I think the NFL didn't want anything. And so we were left with the Miami Sharks and, you know, a whole host of other teams. The Saints. And their logo. Saints with like, yeah, their logos were terrible, man. Okay.

Worst logos in the world. They had the shark, which was, I guess it was cool. It kind of wore on me after I started watching it. But then you got the saints that have a full-on, like, there were the three musketeer. All right. It was the Knights. All right. The Knights.

There's a shot where Coach Tony Tomato is looking at the schedule, and it has the teams in the league listed. So I paused it. and I wrote down the team. So here are the teams in this. You know what? They never even said what the league was. Like I don't even have, they never gave like three letters.

Like this is what this is. Like, whatever that league is, this is the teams that I saw in it. So we got the Seattle Prospects. I don't really know what to do with that one. Not a big fan of that name. The LA Breakers, kind of down with that.

That's not terrible. I like that one. I think it could work. I'll rock a jersey. Mm-hmm. Texas Rattlers. I can see what you have. See that where they came up with that?

Not bad. Kind of feels like a lacrosse team to me for some reason. It definitely feels like a junior league of some kind of, like a sport that's trying to make it work. We got the Minnesota Americans. That's the worst one. That has to be fucking. I don't know what that one's doing. Is that because of the Mall of America is in Minnesota?

Yeah, that's probably where they got that from. Imagine being named after a mall. After our country. You know what, this is actually before the Houston Texans were a thing, which I still stand by was a stupid name. But Americans is actually somehow worse. You know what? We just represent our whole country. We're everybody's team.

This includes South America, Central America. Yeah, you guys come on in, join the party. Guatemala, what's up? Canada. You can support. Houston Cattleman. It's better than Texans. I guess so.

I don't know. At least we know what they're doing. The Washington Lumberman. That's a stretch. Yeah. I understand where they landed on that name. These names are. A lot of men.

They made sure none of these names have any, like, connection to any team that's ever been created. None of these have any. I've never heard of any of these teams, so they did that at a purpose. No one's ever going to use its name. Don't worry. We're good. We had the Oregon Pioneers. Okay, Oregon Trail.

A lot of Pacific Northwest representation in this league. The New York emperors. I kind of like that one. I like the, it's a little bit of a nod. to the Empire State Building, the Empire State Building. So Chicago Rhinos. No. Not feeling that one.

I feel like if you got a city like Chicago, there's a lot to work with. And the rhinos now, in hindsight, just makes me think that of Key and Peel because every time, like the sketch with like the three pumps, Jersey said the rhinos. Like that was always the team they used anytime that football scy. Yes, exactly. Colorado Blizzard. I like that one.

I think it would have sounded cooler if it was the Denver Blizzard, though. I don't know. It just rolls a little bit easier for me. The Dallas Knights. So this is actually a little confusing because on the schedule it says San Francisco Knights. But then at the end of the movie, in the big game, they play the Dallas Knights. So I don't know if it was just like they forgot what they put on the schedule or what.

Point is there's some knights in the team. And they have the ugliest uniforms. Those are atrocious. Three musketeer uniforms. So bad. They basically could have went to medieval times and then a show prior to that and then jumped on a football field and then from their uniforms. The Golden Knight wins. They're

Don't touch down I just feel like they're trying way too much with that They have like the weird thing in the middle That's like a night cry They literally like just looked at medieval times And they're like, let's turn it in a football uniform And then on top of that Instead of having side-to-side helmet logos

They have front to back Don't try to reinvent the wheel on the football uniform guys They have like the eyeball that represents Like the Illuminati Illuminati Yeah yeah I don't know I don't know what that has to do with knights at all but yeah, I hated those uniforms.

Okay, and then we had the Orlando Crushers. I liked that one. Wisconsin Iceman, pretty good. Kansas Twisters, not bad. I don't know why Kansas has a big thing. Yeah, the whole roster. Yeah, a tornado, tornado alley. And the Maine Androids.

Maine androids. What fuck did Maine get a team? First team they've ever had in anything. That's true. The worst uniforms are definitely the nights, but then also that Crusaders team they play in the middle, blue and green and they got i don't know that one was also hideous so anyways this movie famously directed by oliver stone and immediately we just get hit with all the oliver stoneness right away the movie

starts with a vince lombardi quote okay and then it is a lightning strength followed by a close-up of like a man grabbing a football and then an eyeball and then we're just off and running we go right to the first play when uh cap runy played by Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid. The Quaid. Not to be confused with his brother, Randy Quaid, of Independence Day fame and Cousinetti.

Important distinction there. He looks like an NFL quarterback. Really? You thought that? Yeah, he totally... I thought it was a bad. I didn't know. Maybe it's because I've seen Dennis Quaid in so many movies that it's like...

He's not... I remember back at the time when I first saw this, I was like getting Brett Farr vibes from him. Like, he kind of has a Brett Favre look to him. But he seems like kind of... He looks the part. He looks like a quarterback who's kind of like... on his last couple years and he's trying to hold together,

but he's been successful. I think he totally nailed it. And he does a great job sort of selling the concussion thing when he's kind of like seeing. And one of that, again, credit to Oliver Stone, he does a really good job of sort of getting you in the field of vision of what it would be like if you're one of those players. Dealing with the pressure of like all the intensity of the game,

there's all these like crazy shaky zooms of like the crowd all of a sudden and closest him grabbing the dirt. Definitely starts off high energy. High energy. It lets you know exactly what this is, like, right away. It's you in the face. It's going to be a crazy football movie. We're going to get real as shit.

Fucking Cap Rooney. Cap Rooney. Cap Rooney is the cap. I'm going to say right off the top, excellent casting in this movie. Like, just on and on all throughout the roster. Everybody, like, there's so many good stars that they caught at, like, a great time in their career.

From the fact that Al Pacino is their head coach, who's just a legendary actor, and it just will not fail that role. Like he, I don't know if this guy knows anything about football, but I want to listen to him. I'm going to follow him in a battle. I almost completely believe that he doesn't. I do love at the very end, so at the end of the half, right after a cap gets hurt, and he's doing his locker room speech. He gets out of him. He's like, we just lost two quarterbacks out of the offensive line.

And then he's like, all right, the defense, uh, I don't know. We got to do something. We got to make a tackle. It's like you, you're not the defensive guy. huh? Like, that's not your specialty. I gather that right away. Okay. Defense. This is what we got to do here. I don't know. You got to do something. You got to do something out there. You got to make it happen. I don't know what you're doing. You got to stop flying around the

fucking ball. Do something. Tackle somebody. Don't let these guys chew up the goddamn clock on us. You got to jam those receivers. I don't care. You make mistakes. Make them big. I don't give a fuck. I'm not going to eat your lunch for that. A lot of watching Oliver Stone style. It hits all the points. It's got amazing visuals where you're like right inside the action. It's basically like, I heard that he wanted to kind of make like saving Private Ryan about football. And you could see that when you're like kind of like in the field of battle and everything looks like crazy. Transitions and edits and like other like visuals coming in, which could be a little bit much at times. But in some of the football games, I think it kind of works. Also like amazing dialogue scenes. Like we get

all of that. We get the whole gambit of the Oliver Stone experience like right off the bat. I would say just my personal opinion about the movie is that fact that. that has so much action, like, blah, blah, blah. And then the times it does have dialogue, sometimes it just goes for so long with the dialogue. I'm so used to the action in the movie. I'm like, no, you need to get back to the, my brain's in action mode.

It doesn't want to go in these long, five-minute conversations between him and Cameron Diaz. But that's just my own personal, like, you know what I mean? That was the one thing about this movie that was like, so much action, so much, so much, now slow it down for the next six minutes and they're going to talk. I think you need that, though. I think there needs to be a balance.

Three minutes. You can't just have, like, I think that it's cool that they give you a little bit peek behind the current of what it's like to run a team. The kind of stuff that owners and GMs talk about behind, like, making decisions for football and stuff like that. I didn't like it. One thing I do hate that they do is the shots to the owner's box. I just hate the way there's just all these are random people in there.

I know what they're going for, but, like, it just takes away from the action for me. There's, like, always just classical music playing, and they're just, like, all these, like, stuffy people. Could not be more opposite from, like, all the people on the other side of the glass. They really overdo it by the end of the movie. The dead owner's wife is just there. and she's like just getting loaded. Blasted.

She's blasted, dude. Throughout the entire movie. She's like in outer space, the whole movie. She doesn't know where she's at. She's such she has dogs. Dead owner's wife where she's just like living on a fortune now. And like she doesn't need to worry about it. She just like, live.

You worry too much, honey. Have a drink. It's just a game. And also the cause, reason, and future of her fortune. But, you know, just relax. Yeah. There's so many amazing casting choices. Al Pacino at the tail end.

He's obviously a legend. Jamie Fox. point was just really kind of getting started. I think this is the first movie I remember him being kind of like unimportant. I think before this it was booty call. Booty call was great. That was it. But that's a movie.

He played buns. Is that really his name? I just want to throw out his name because the name of that movie was Buns. It needed to be thrown out. I had that ass bouncing like a low ride in a Dr. Dre video. But that's the kind of movie you would have expected him to be in at that point. This is the first time I think Theo he was in like a role with sort of like showing, letting him like stretch out a little bit, show a little bit of what he can do.

And then you got Cameron Diaz who's coming off like, I think the hottest point of her career. This is right after something about Mary when then suddenly everybody knew about Cameron Diaz. She was just like the hottest actress in Hollywood. So for her to like be this kind of conniving, maybe business savvy owner that like took over for her dad. I would say if we had somebody like that in life, like she would be a very notable personality, not just sports media but media in general. Isn't that Jeannie Bus? She's way hotter than Jeannie Bus. Do you look like Cameron Diaz?

Saw Jeannie bus in person. I don't know. Don't take it a slender, Jeannie. I'm just saying you're dealing with Pete Cameron Diaz coming right off with something about Mary. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to battle that, but don't hate on Jeannie. You can't, I'm not. I'm saying nobody can battle Pete Cameron.

Causing fights for no reason. I'm right at the top. Yes. That's what I do. Well, yes. Who else did they have? Bill Bellamy and El Colje. I think you called them out earlier.

who had a fantastic scene about 10 minutes in that you had no idea or reason why. It just showed, hey, these two parties. Bill and me at this point, I remember he was a big thing in the 90s. Remember? Like MTV back in the day. He was like this. So was this the end of his career, basically? He was a VJ.

Yeah, so he had only been like a VJ, but he was like the guy in MTV. Back when MTV was like cool, like the early mid-90s and it was like cutting edge. He made a How to Be a Play. Yeah, I was going to say, how to be a player. We can check on that. But he was great at that too. Yeah, yeah. But that was like another one where it's like,

that's what you would expect him to make. And so him kind of come in and suddenly being the wide receiver who games himself up before the game being like, I'm the greatest receiver of all time. I'll catch anything. The best bar of receiver that's ever lived. I can catch anything that's ever lived. You know who needs to do that now?

Who's that? Mark Andrews. We're coming off watching Mark Andrews drop an entire football game. Come on, Mark. I've got to see him the championship game. So that's the time of recording at this moment. But anyways, I also noted that the product placement is incredible right off the bat. We get literally just a close-up of a metrics pack being opened.

Like right after cap goes down. We cut right to a close-up of metrics, which took me back. I haven't seen metrics in years. What is metrics? I don't even know. It was like some nutrition. Protein. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, really? It was like blasted. Like they were purposely like paid for that spot on it? Oh, for sure. They're all over this movie. It also shows up in like Willie Beamon's whole. music video. He has like the strawberry shake and he's like, taste good.

Mm-hmm. Or something like that. Mm. And then they cut out from the commercial and show it's on the big screen where the scoreboard has advertisement for Pepsi, Budweiser, Qualcomm, and IBM. Oh, this movie got paid. Yeah. And it just continues off throughout. They got sponsorships. That's football, baby. That's all it is. One more to note. You catch this Under Armour. Oh, yeah, Under Armour's all over.

That's, I think, where they launched after this movie. shit. That's a good point. They weren't really a thing at that point and they're still going on. And everyone was like what's this Under Armour all about? What's this like jockstrap that Jamie Fox is wearing that they zoom in and they got a fucking logo on it. So that's it, what's that logo say?

Just so you know. Get some of it. Under Armour. It didn't make it proper. That was the early 2000s. That's the early thing. This was the jump-off point. Yeah. Sure. That's crazy that this movie was it though. So is it the greatest football movie of all the time? I don't know. Well, me, I have the Waterboy is my top

really anything Adam Sandler. What was the other football movie that he, the replacements? The longest yard. Longest Yard. Again, a better movie in my opinion. And this one? Hell no. I would put longest yard above Waterboy, but I'm not putting either of him above this one. I'm putting

anything Adam Sandler. Okay. But like, remember the Titans up there? Rudy. Sorry, I do love Rudy. Varsity Blues. I'll say this. I presented three different options as an idea for, I I wanted to do a football movie for a Super Bowl week. I threw it over to the gang over here, and I was like, what do you guys think?

Jason's response was basically like, oh, option A, a lot of people love that. Option B is an awesome movie. Option C is pretty good too. So one vote for everything. Nice. And I said, you know what, I guess I didn't help much.

Yeah. But positivity going into the new year is all we need. I landed on this because of the movies. This one felt the most like NFL adjacent. So I felt like as a run up to the Super Bowl, this was the call. Plus one of them was Little Giants, and that doesn't really connect with NFL too much. A classic football movie. Yeah, but we could say that one because we've been talking about how we want to do Little Giants at some point.

And maybe early next season, that's when we'll get into that one. But the NFL Giants and Little Giants, very similar early in the season for the Little Giants to the pros. How so? Little Giants are very much like the NFL Giants. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. in the beginning, they're absolutely terrible. Yeah. They might have a better.

Maybe the Giants can turn it out. Maybe they should throw Rick Moranis out there and see what happens. Annexation of Puerto Rico. Little Giants coming, 2025 later this year. So they cart cap off, right? Then in comes back of Tyler Cherabini, who I foot down. Did Tyler Cherabini have the worst game of football on record in football history? Because Cherubini comes in.

he gets one play the rush gets to him in about a second and a half and takes him out the cart with cap on it has not even got to the locker room yet and they're like cherubini's down you got to roll it back out and he's like dr harvey he's like dr harvey man trick his backup quarterback tyler cherubini has not seen a lot of action recently that's worse than that cab uh tariff charabini is not thrown for first down all season 23 to 21. Man, oh man, did they nail him? And it doesn't look like Cherapini's getting up.

Any given Sunday, Cab, anything can happen. Terrapini's down. Charapini, what, he fell off the bench? He's like, Cap, can you walk the rest of the way to the locker room? I got to turn this thing back around because... And that's how we end up with Willie Beaman, who was sitting on the bench, reading a fucking newspaper, heating seeds, like, not even paying attention. The fact that he had a newspaper open...

Dude, hats me. cricket offering his teammates like some sunflower season you guys want some all of a sudden he's in the game and i do feel like as i mentioned earlier with that stone direction they do a really good job showing like what kind of chaotic energy it would be like to suddenly be in an NFL game or like a professional game where he's looking around and all these like linebackers are like coming out of the line and looking at you you're looking at the crowd and everything just they're like yelling plays in your ear you know if you're not ready for that it would be like it would be insane with that said there's one part that hits me early in the movie where willie

Bima comes in. He just said he had the sunflower seeds and he was not paying attention whatsoever. So he clearly wasn't involved in that game or any previous games to that. So when they lose the game at the end of this first game and the first thing he tells his coach is, I'm just tired of losing coach. Well, fuck you haven't been in the game or paying attention whatsoever. Like what are you talking about? You're tired of losing.

You barely got it and you weren't. They suddenly dropped it that he's a four-year veteran. They said that when he first comes in. Yeah. He's kind of been like a journeyman quarterback. He's bounced around out of Dallas. All right. Like a Jacobi preset.

Yeah. Coach should have almost just been like, it's all right. You've had nothing to do with any of that guy. You're good. This movie weighs no time showing you the intensity of football for better or for worse. Obviously the intensity of the stuff on the field. And they go to the locker room. And dude's like, get me out of this.

I got to go. Huge. Huge dump. They're holding the IVs for him. They're on the field. Jamie Fox is thrown up. Anything dealing with the locker room, the whole movie is just like in your face intensity. And they're like, this is the way it is.

I'm actually curious to know, like, the people that actually made this movie, like how much research over it was a lot of guessing. A lot of this movie feels like it's very on point and smart. But then there's also like a point when Cameron Diaz, aka Christina Pagnachi, she's like, fantastic name. Yeah, great name. And she's like, at this point, we could get a second and a third round draft choice for cap.

I've never heard it referred to as a draft choice before. What are they usually referred to? Draftick. What was her name again? Pitzowski. Christina Pagniachi. Pagniacci. Throughout the movie they have her acting like she's a villain.

Was she really like throughout the movie a villain? Like I feel like she was just looking out for her team. She was trying to get some more money moving to a better place. The stadium sucked. And she wanted to win games. She was like he's not the best option. He's the best. I feel like she was just a good owner trying to.

state being a little more involved than she should be. But other than that, we're just looking at it. Like, she wanted the best thing for the team. Let's get some results. Am I wrong on that? Like, as I was listening, they portray her as an asshole, but she really just looking out for the team. I don't think this movie really tries, and it's an interesting thing they do.

I don't think they try to portray people as, like, heroes or villains. Like, this is supposed to be who you like. This is who you don't like. It's more just kind of like, this is how it is. And they're showing you kind of like the ruthlessness of being an NFL owner. I'm just kind of refer to as NFL. NFL from now on just so I don't have to keep making this color. This is supposed to be the NFL, even though we got the Miami Sharks on the fucking

and the Pantheon Cup. And the Pantheon Cup. We're talking about Super Bowls. All right. That makes more sense. That's being an NFL owner. I can't see that too. These are the kind of tough decisions they got to make.

She's like, I know everybody loves Cap. I'm looking at this third stringer that's like making some waves. I think we could build a future off him. And we still have enough value with Cap that we could get a second and third round draft choice for him. And she says some more. cold blood shit when she's talking about sharks he's like honestly we'll cut him in the off season nobody's going to want to sign a concussion case he'll come back for 30% of what he was

making before like to have some ruthless shit that's talking about that shit for sure happens but that's i guarantee you these are the kind of conversations that happen in meetings for sure i think there's a lot of things that this movie does that i definitely don't think was touched on before up until this point i think a lot of football movies had been either like very high school base or kind of with like a little hint of cheese, a little hokeyness, a little comedy with it. I definitely don't think, especially with the visuals of the plays and everything, that anything had been this raw and real before. I remember when it came out, I still remember seeing previews of it, like, oh, this movie's

going for it. Like, they're trying to be in your face about it. And it still holds up. A lot of the stuff, I just think still holds up, you know? Players dealing with injuries, you know, the reality of, like, trying to fight for your next contract. All we're stone, just trying to ruffle some feathers. Players getting pissed off and throwing alligators at their...

Teammates, which, by the way, that scene came out of nowhere, and he literally grabbed an alligator within a minute because recording the way the scene went, where was that alligator, man? Where did he get an alligator from? He had it ready. No way it was in his car, and if it was. No, he was just like, it was good thing I brought my alligator today.

It's in my locker. I knew these guys were going to talk shit on my dancing in the shower. Hang on, I got something for you. Watch this. And you know what? I call him Allen. And I wasn't going to be. bring out and I wasn't going to bring him but I had a hunch.

I was leaving the house. Today was the day. And I was like, you know what? You're coming with me. That guy's house was also chaos too. Later when they show, I didn't even get his name. I just was writing him down as face paint guy.

But there's a point later in the movie where they like show his house and he's got like kids. He's got like nine kids running around. There's like Rottweilers and cages inside just like barking incessantly. There's like music blasting. I'm like, who you're going to love this. But his name was Patrick Madman Kelly. That was his name? Of course it was.

I had zero doubt his nickname was Madman. I saw... He tattooed his eyes. Alligator man. Those were tattooed. That wasn't just like black thing that you put in. It was tattoo. He had tattoos.

That's why he always had it. Really? I didn't even catch that. I didn't know what catch his name, but I was noticing in the credits that had one of the players' name was Beastman. I just assumed they were referring to him because he seems like a guy

whose name would be Beastman, you know? Chad Beastman. He has a great football movie resume, by the way. If you didn't notice, that same guy was Latimer in the program. Great movie. Okay. And he also played a psycho, roided out. He's very tight-casted at this point.

And then he was in another unknown college movie called Necessary Roughness. Oh, I love Necessary Roughness. It's a great movie. And he's more centered in that one, a little more calm. It was early in his career still. But his agent was like, we're on to something here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know exactly what to cast you in.

lean a little bit more into the roided out psychopath with the face tattoos you still got those roids okay you got an alligator in the back of your truck pop him you should have one of those so shout out to him and his name by the way was Andrew Briniarski if you're listening

and I know you are give us a shout up give us a shout tip of the cap to you sir yeah you're a wild man motherfucker you and your house looks insane I wonder how realistic it is that that's a situation because I bet you there is a lot of NFL players that have like 9 kids running around their house, but they're not even around.

They kind of like have like a maid kind of like trying to like figure stuff out. So when they go back, it's just kind of chaos at all times. I don't know about the Rottweilers in like a cave. It looked like a kennel in his house. Does he say something like, well, this is, you shouldn't have gotten married or something? It's like, yeah. Honey, did you see the dog get? How can't we afford a maid?

Why don't how I get married? Did the football teams back then just have like a priest on retaining? Like, I believe so. On staff as like part of the team, just ready to like call in a prayer. Yes, they do have that on staff. Man, I got to say, man, Christ was having a great run in the 90s, dude. Everybody was so in. You could just have like a priest, like, as part of the team, just be like welcome to.

He's like giving, he's the one that gives the end game pep talk speech. He doesn't even like just give a prayer. He's just like, gentlemen, he'd been here before. You and I have been in some tough places together, haven't we? I went to my playbook. And the book says the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike. Now, we just lost four in the world. He gives a better speech than Tony does at halftime when he's telling the defense.

Oh, we got to do something. We got to something. Make a tackle. And then meanwhile, we have a defensive coordinator, Jim Brown. Jim Brown. Who's like in practice. That is who that was, right? I was like, I was Joe Brown, man.

But his attempt is just being like, you guys are fucking stupid. I make the plays for you all to learn him and then you don't execute like he's just like pointing it. Let's give Jim Brown some credit in his like acting on this one. He really did kill it on this. I think the fact that they have Jim Brown and Lawrence Taylor in this movie like two of the greatest like football

but it could be argued that they're both the greatest at their position in the NFL. And when I'm talking about defense goddam and you're dumb enough we made it simple enough. We made this shit real fucking simple. What I always love from a good sports movie of casting is like I want to see some star power they got that I want to see uh some sort of up-and-coming roles which was like what jamie fox was like give somebody a shot that you know

we haven't really seen him play this they got that and I like seeing a little crossover from other entertainment values bring in some real football players bring in some music artists we got l.l cool jay playing the hot-headed running back julian washington jay man I agree a good eclectic crew is what I like on a football team. I thought that Adam Seller one kind of nailed that pretty good too. Longest Yard. I like the casting he did in this one. Yeah, this one is, our power. This one hits I think the dramatics of it better.

So can we give credit to the Willie Beeman and his fantastic song? Like as a kid I'd be like he's bragging. You don't want to get it. Because I don't know my dad had this thing on me where he's like, you don't want to brag. You don't want to be a hot dog. You got to me. I was like, okay, and then I got a hit on everybody. But now then I'm done it. I'm like,

the motherfucker's killing it for two songs. They put him on on blast. He's making it. I'm Willie. Willie beaming And then it's just a good beat to it It's just smooth I keep him screaming I don't know man I listen to it

And I was like This is a good song I might put this on my Spotify playlist You know I guarantee this full track of it Jamie was already into making music at this point

So I'm sure he actually turned that into a full track I'm gonna claim And all my fan I'm streaming I actually had that in the category Which we could go ahead

And do now I'm just bobping with some categories real quick. If you guys want to like jump in with any ideas. Rapid Fire. Let's get it. What is the most 1999 thing about this movie? This is a category a bit from the rewatch bowls

from my favorite podcast. Shout to Bill Simmons. Football player making a rap video mid-season. Like once he started to catch fire. I feel like that was something that happened a lot of the 90s. I especially think of like Dion Sanders. Like Dion Sanders' heydays, I definitely felt like that was the kind of thing he would do. I've seen some Dion Sanders videos from,

And it's very similar to what you were seeing in that Willie Beam in one. Yeah, they had like the crazy Gumby Gold and the sunglasses. Yeah. And wearing a suit. Yeah. But like the bright colored suit, but no shirt underneath. Yeah, the Deon look. Most 99th thing for me that I noticed was the lack of any phones, right?

Because this is pre-phones, pre-cells and everything. So everybody's at that party where he breaks the car in half and shit like that. Nobody's on their phones. And it's just something I realize a lot now because I pay attention to it for some reason. It's awkward. I'm like, everybody's on their phone. So whenever they're not, I'm like, nobody's on their phone. And complete lack of social media presence.

Zero. So everybody was able to, yeah, that's why parties went a little harder. Living in the moment. A lot of this movie, like I said earlier, holds up if they did this now. I think a lot of it would be the same. But there would be much more a social media presence in the movie. That would be a big part of it. Julian.

L.O. Cool J would be a big about his TikTok and his Instagram. He's all worried about getting his stats. He'd be like talking about like, oh, I got to give my followers, like a shout out post. game he would like have his phone up you know they would have Cameron Diaz talking to the coach and via text and they would like there'd be some text conversations happening yeah okay so that's a good call I don't know I took that completely wrong the most 90s thing about it was what'd you say I was was thinking the most 90s thing about this movie was Elizabeth Berkeley uh okay jesse Spano getting and Jesse Spano getting naked again coming off the bench that's like twice in like four years

Jesse Spano coming off the bench as your neighborhood hooker just about being typecast like the madman. I know. And a lot of people always talked about how Elizabeth Berkeley took a chance by like being in showgirls. And they were like,

not a daily work. But yeah, then she shows up in this one. And this one, she's not so much like a stripper. She's just sort of like the friendly call girl trying to get like

close to coach Demado and everything. Yeah, bold choice by her. But you know what? I wasn't seeing, I keep on color Jesse Spanow. Jesse Spano. That's why I was like the most 90s thing is Jesse Spanow getting naked again.

This would be it. Twice in four years. So she was a trailblazer for Sidney's Sweeney. Let's just put it out there. There you go. Here's my call for most 1990 to think about it. Trick Daddy CDs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Coach D's all trying to get close to Jamie. You listen to. Willie? He's like, what do you listen to? And he's like, the cool young guy, he's like, Trick Daddy. Got his shades on and shit. He's like, oh, yeah, I got some of that.

I know. Nobody had his headphones like that. And he's like, I'll make you a mixtape. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'll make you a tape. And he's like, no, it's CDs, man. We listen to CDs now. Like, it's only this.

What you're listening to? Rap. Anyone I know? Trick Daddy. You ever listen to jazz? You know, Coltrane monk. Miles Davis, really hollily. I don't get into the old stuff much.

maybe I'll put together a tape for you. My favorites. CDs. Ah, yeah. Well, we forget about it then. I think that's going to be the winner for me. Also, then, and I'm more serious note, the team doctor not wanting to test for concussions.

Kind of a 1999 aspect of this movie, I think. Willie Beeman's yellow shirt when he goes to have dinner with Coach Tomato. That was a rash guard. Yeah, it was like made by body opera. It could not have been any tight. As bright yellow as the man in the yellow hats. And it was tucked in. Yes.

Felt like a very specific time frame in like 1999 when like that might have been a thing. Could be worn. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Willie getting busted for taking a $300 suit to go to somebody's wedding, being the reason that everybody looked at him as like a troublemaker and broke the rules, you know, as like some boosts are helping them out. Like the rules used to be like so where we've gotten today where like you got some guys in college with NIL.

10 million. More money than the guy, like some of the lower end paid guys in the NFL. I definitely feel like we're inching closer to like us like tipping it too far the other way where now they're going to have to like bring it down, bring a hammer on that. But yeah, how many times do we see who was that player in Ohio State who got busted for getting like tattoos for free? And like he got like suspended for that. And it's like, I don't know, that's kind of up to the tattoo artist's choice.

If he wants to like hook you up with tattoos. I don't know. The rules used to be so insane. So the fact that that kind of set a spiral. for his whole career, like, going down, I thought was very interesting and very 99. And then finally, Tony, this is all, this list got darker as we went through it.

But then when he's talking to Capruini later, and he's like asking him if he's okay. He's like, I don't know, it's my body, it's feeling. He's like, you'll be all right. You just need the needle. Classic 99th conversation right there. Doc got it wrong about your back? I don't know, Tony.

I hurts a whole lot more than I thought. I think I pushed it too hard. I'll play hard cap you know you just need the needle yeah I'm sure that's it okay so just get back to where we were in the movie first of all I want to give a shout out to Jack rose who had it first Jack Rose played by John C McGinley is that his name Dr. Cox from Scrubs the journalist yeah great casting he says right when he first gets in he's like he's the future of the team Willie Beaman hasn't even done shit yet he was at the front of it Jack Rose had it first.

And then I wrote this about Jack Rose. Jack Rose walked so Skip Bayliss could run. I do feel like he's somewhat invented the hot take business. Now we had Jim Rome out there so he was kind of doing that. Maybe this was a little bit of a Jim Rome rip-off. But in 1999, most of the of like sports on TV was like Sports Center highlights there was very little like talking head hot take game i don't think until like pta i started a few years later and i remember when that show started it was kind of like a new thing throughout this entire movie jack rose just keeps popping up in the tv shitting on tony shitting on the sharks shitting on the way the organizations run and about

as cool as skip bayless was when he's like talking to will and he's like he was so skin one he's like Give me some gap, bro. Yeah. He's like, nah, nah. I'm cooling the love, bro. Your smack is so fresh. I mean, it's so on time and truthful. Give me a pound, dog.

Come on, share the love. I'll pass on the love, dog. I feel like somewhere Skip Bayless was watching that, just taking notes. Skipping his fucking shoes always giving it. That's how you do it. All right. Jordans, he's like, I'm cool.

Get out of here. With his big-ass chains. Speaking of Christina Pognacchi earlier, do you think that the whole, whole owners like kind of trying to be underhanded and move the team to LA thing is a slight pull out of the playbook from Major League with the owner the owner's wife the mom in the movie yeah what the one that was major leagues owner the blonde lady that was his wife the showgirl yeah that was the drunk in this movie no way

am I tripping on that is not the same people no no they're not Her name is Anne Margaret. I know that. I doubt it. Yeah, I see where you're going for. They're cut from the same cloth. That's her a couple years later. Absolutely.

Ten years later? A lot of similarities, but no, different. Well, that would have been a cool connection to you. Yeah, that one would make right there. Again, just people getting typefuss. Margaret Witten. I thought I found something there. Christina Pagniachi is a notch above Rachel Phelps, in my opinion,

because she still has the team's interest. She wants the team to win. She just wants it to be, like, maybe, located in where it's going to make her more money. Both are very okay going into the locker rooms, though. Oh, very much, yeah. That's part of their goal is the... Which, by the way, in this movie, a lot of male ass all over the...

A lot of unnecessary male ass, man. All the whole team, before they play a flag football game, decides to moon the ladies before they say hike and it's like, what is going on? Yeah, like that's like a false start, right? Like, you can't pull that play off after that. Can't pull that. That's cheating. That's a definite before social media time.

Like, if you saw it, imagine, like, there was a, like, there was a clip of like the entire Miami Dolphins like just mooting show their ass before they yeah you get away with it in 99 a little different now then Oliver Stone is like you know what I didn't like that take let's take another take in that they did multiple takes I promise they're like we did this four times already but then there's also just like needless gratuitous new at one point when they're just kind of doing like a montage of like stuff through the season they just have a shot of four guys like taking a piss of the urinal they all have the sharks towels and then suddenly they all just are like standing there naked for no reason?

Yeah, yeah. What? Did they all, like, choreograph? Like, all right, we're going to lose the towels in three, two, a one. Oh, my God, we're doing it, guys. We're doing it. They're like, what's the snap count? And then they all took their towels off.

Snap. Now, the level of random ass in this movie is. And then, of course, the alligator in the shower scene. Christina coming in the locker room and they just randomly just have, it's just a massive dog just standing. Some guy just chilling. Just casually standing there. No hurry to go anywhere.

He's just like, oh, I think he's that one. way. Yeah, yeah, he's right over there. To all his friends, all the girls, like, hey, I was in this movie. You guys should check it out. I don't want to put any kind of Google search to try to figure out who that guy was,

but I do wonder if that was the peak of his career right here. And also what the casting call was to find him like that. That guy wasn't another part of the movie. I didn't notice. So then we get to a point finally when Willie starts turning it on, right? Finding his invisible juice. which by the way was my fantasy team name this year as you guys are in my league

Willie Beam an invisible juice When you're out there is the raw fear in the belly Is the law terror? No, I don't feel none of that It's like they ain't even going to touch me They're not going to feel me They're not even going to smell me I don't care if it's the T-Rex or the Terminator out there chasing me

I got this invisible juice And once I turn it on I'm gone Is that where you got that phone? I knew you wouldn't understand No man You don't understand most things I was thinking of Michael's secret stuff from Space Jam.

Well, that's kind of, it's sort of pretty close. Yeah, it's in the same vein, I'd say. The game where he starts taking off, though, very Lamar Jackson-esque, the way he kind of like evades tackles. And I think in 99, that was very cutting edge. You didn't see a lot of that. You think about, like, Michael Vic was like, I think a couple years later than this.

I mean, Randall Cunningham was kind of close. Randall Cunningham was like the only one that we had that was kind of like this. Wasn't Steve Young like that? He was pretty elusive. Elway, Elway, run when he, ran when he had to. I don't think anybody thought of him. Playground ball quarterbacks.

Also like not white, right? That too. Yeah, that's his point. Well, speaking of L.A., we get that play where Willie does that flip into the end zone.

It's very L.A. esque, you know, that what Super Bowl game against, was it the Packers? And he kind of makes a run and he gets hit and helicopters into the air. They basically bit that exact play, which was really cool. They did it really well,

and I appreciate it. Except for the fact that they bring it back in the last. game of the movie when Cap Rooney does it. It's basically done twice. They did a double. They done it twice, yeah. Both times it's executed really well.

And it looks like they got him, Cap. Cap had one of the, his spun. Yeah. Jamie had a forward flip one. He looked more like Elway with it because Cap has more of an Elway thing going on. And he was left-handed. Yeah.

But then right after that, the details. He gives Tony a stare-down right after that play. So he changed the play in the huddle. Then immediately gives him a sense. stare down and I was trying to figure out like considering he was a third string quarterback who obviously is like a journeyman and almost should be like appreciative of the opportunities getting like I was like why is Willie coming at Tony with like such attitude like right away like immediately the second he starts playing good at all he won't even give him the time of day on the plane when he's

talking to him and he's like sitting next to him he's trying to like talk to him about like hey I lost my father too if you ever want to talk about and he's just sitting there he's just like yeah man I got tricked to you listen to you you good we're good he good Trick Daddy, baby. Trick Daddy, baby. Trick Daddy, actually, is a song in this movie. Uh-huh. Okay.

What's up? Shut up. Shut up. The soundtrack in this movie is fucking lights out, by the way. The one song that comes in perfectly when it's like there's a throne pass, and it's like, you're going to keep on losing me. Bill Withers. They're using me.

It's like, I don't know why. I asked you guys to name your best track. I'm certain Justin didn't do it. Oh, is it? I just said it. Okay, good. And kiss my ass. I just came over a try.

How are you going to call me out? Wait, how are you going to call me out for a second? Everybody, he didn't do it. And I literally, four seconds prior had just come up with the fucking track. That was fantastic. The craziest thing is I had the exact same song. Dude. The only thing, though, it made no sense in that scene for me.

It was like almost like, why? It's like an R&B, like a smooth. And then they're like in the playoffs. I'm like, nah, man. I want something to like pump me up right now. Well, they did do a 90s track later. It was like, one of those. I did one of those, like, I forget which one.

It wasn't that one, but it was one of those. It's a great song. That's how I was saying. So they play it. I'm saying it's later in the movie they did it. Like the higher energy. Right. But it was just like, all right, it's a good song.

I don't know. I mean, they're trying to win this game right now. Fucking. You can pick up the energy here. Let's pick it up, guys. What are we doing over here? You guys want to know something crazy? That was my favorite.

Shout out to Bill Withers. If you're watching, shout out to Bill Withers. I did not think I would have that across the board on you guys. But they snuck that one in. That's why. I thought it was cool because another, like, Oliver Stone technique is putting music in a place where you don't, it doesn't seem like it belongs, but it kind of works. That's the first drive when Cap finally comes back in the big game. It kind of works because they're showing the engine's running good.

The machine is moving. We're making plays. We're getting first downs. And the fact that they take out the sound effects as the game's happening. So you're kind of just watching it. They're cutting to Willie on the sideline. He's like, he's like, he's reacting. Now he's all into it.

For some reason, it just works on that play. If you wrote down on paper, in the big game, we're going to play Bill Withers. I wish I knew that sounds like. It's called Use Me. Use me? Yeah. You'd be like, no, that doesn't work. Because Tony was using the cap.

Okay. Is that what we're going for? Maybe, yeah. There you go. Or was Cap using the game of football to feel something in life? And then Cap's wife was using him to stay in the limelight. Just everyone using each other. A lot of using going on in this.

Christina Pagnachi is using all of them to try to, get herself the opportunity to move the team to L.A., yeah. Madman using alligators in the showers. Hence why that was the song of the thing. Even though, again, as Castle stated, fantastic soundtrack throughout the entire thing. There's just non-stop jams. But that one just stood out and it really kind of connected with that part,

even though it shouldn't have. So, yeah. Do you ever hear of Jamie Fox and El O'O. Kuzha, they got in the fight during that race scene? I have heard that, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure L.O. Hucucca, he probably beat his ass.

So I actually sent this to Castle because I was just doing a deep dive on YouTube And Bill Bellamy has a video You can maybe you guys can search it up And he gets all the details on the fight And he had the trailer between them too Yeah, he did say Al-Col beat his ass Oh yeah for sure and you say Jamie probably admitted like yeah I mean what am I gonna do against him?

Yeah, L L you've seen those He beat my ass But then I guess Jim Brown came in and was like Nah, you guys got to do this for the movie You guys got to squash it and Bill Bel-Bel me the whole time just in the middle, like, the fuck's going on right? Jim Brown.

Team leader for all time, man. L.L. went through a crazy body transformation right around this time, because, like, you look at early L.L. Like, the 80s. He was like a skinny little kid, you know? And then all of a sudden, he shows up at this movie. He's yoked. And then from then on, to this day, like, still L.L.

Just jacked all the time. He looks like he could be an NFL player. Both of them talking about the recollection of the fight, and they both were, like, kind of saying the other guy kind of started it. You know what I mean? Like it was, and then they just kind of reacted to it.

But it does seem that the story is that L.L. caught him with a good one. Which one of them hit him first? So it was something along the lines of like they were acting and they got into it. And he, L.L. gives him like a shove or something to the helmet. And Jamie's like,

looks around like this motherfucker. Actually just hit me right now. So he kind of tells him like, hey, you know, don't put your hands on me. I think L.L. probably thought it was all part of the act. Yeah, yeah.

They reshoot, he does it again. At that point, I think Jamie swung first, but then LL was like, I got you, bro. I mean, if you're going to hit me first, I'll hit you back. I'm about to get you headstrong. Oh, nice.

So the way Jamie tells it, you know, they're having a scripted argument for the movie, and that LL, because there was already tension, was almost like reacting to it in person. Like he was actually talking that shit to him, you know? Like, so he was getting mad for what Jamie was saying to him, reading the script that they were given. So, yeah.

One thing I want to touch on with Willie Beeman, though, this whole pop culture storm that then he goes on, suddenly everybody's like, yo, this new kid's got some juice. Look at him go. All of a sudden, he's on the cover of ESPN Sports Illustrated. He's making a damn music video. He's getting interviewed by Jack Rose,

where he's wearing his, like, shiny, like, button-up shirt, and he's just talking all the, like, most cocky as mess you've ever heard. Because I'm Willie. Will it be? This all happens within like a two weeks span. So here's my question. What this happened in real life, if a quarterback just suddenly, like,

dominated for like two weeks, you think that suddenly there'd be that much wave of momentum for wins two games? I mean, maybe, but he'd have to take that fire that second, going into that third week. He'd have to really go hard. And then he, because you would get a lot of attention. Everybody would get into it.

I mean, possibly. He could turn into like a viral sensation and possibly at that point. But then it would burn off pretty quickly, right? Because he lost the next game. Just as quick, yeah. That rainy game. It was a crazy dark rainy game.

Why were there no lights during that? The monsoon bowl? And they were black. It's like, I don't see where's the ball? I can barely see that scene in general. You know what? But like you're to that, to this day it would happen.

Think like Tommy DeVito for the Giants. And then he had his agent that looked like, inspector gadget. And then like everyone was doing the Italian hand because he was like, yeah. It's like a linsanity moment. where it just takes, especially now with social media and everything.

Yes, it would happen for sure. So absolutely, and then it would die out because they realized Tommy DeVito fucking sucks. I think. I had it by my fantasy team for a week. What a stupid church. You gotta roll the dice sometimes, right? I was like, hey. You gotta be like, hey.

You just wanted to do this. Sevens, yeah. Castle immediately told me he was like, that's a stupid check. It was a bad pickup. Stupid pickup. He was like, no, he's good. He's good. No.

No, it was dumb pick up. You shit. I read the same. I'm like, I think they overdo it a little bit, which I almost kind of have to with a movie to like really like drive home the point. But I don't think it's that far off. I think that like in football, especially where it's like all the action happens the week and then we have a week to talk about it.

Every year. Two back to back weeks. Over and over again, we see whatever team like how to dominate win on like Monday night football all week. People are like, I think they had a shot to take it all this year. Like they're the new favorites. Like we just changes week to week. Whoever's the hot story.

I think the thing that maybe overdid it for me was like him being on the cover of every magazine because like it takes a while to get those printed back of the day i don't know that they would have had him on the cover of sports illustrated immediately with like two wins in a row but listen my steelers were like that this season okay 10 and three tomlin was coach of the year steers were going and they were like this is the most complete team and then that's what like five in a row straight did we look like absolute shit after 10 three i was like what we just went down and that's steelers as the last decade for you that's the steeler's as My steers?

Yeah, week to week, though. It just changes so much. And who takes the headlines and who's hot, who's not? Yeah. Just taking the album for sure. And he played three games because he lost the first one, but he got helicoptered in. So everybody was like, who's this guy?

And then he won the next two. Without question, man, he's going to be a star. Everybody's going to be like, oh, they got something going over here. Willie Beeman seems to be seaman. Steaming Willie Beeman. Big market, too, Miami. Yeah. Yeah.

But then that also takes me to the scene where he goes over to Coach Tony Dommato's house and I feel like this is one of the better scenes in the movie but where Oliver Stone's direction just gets turned up a notch like there's a few times when Oliver Stone is just like clear out the lane I'm gonna do some crazy shit with this they got like the Ben Hur clips just like singed in and out and this last time watching it more than ever it was really like distracting because I was like really trying to follow the dialogue I'm like this is actually a really good conversation between like the veteran coach who's like been through it and like knows what he's talking about but is maybe a little bit too tied to the history of the game

versus the new up-and-coming kid who just thinks that his style wins. And everybody that's like pictures on the wall, like those people don't matter. And like it was a very interesting contrast where you're hearing both them come at each other. Probably at that point, I'd say Jamie Fox's best acting scene ever. And the whole time we're just being like, but here's Ben-Hur.

Oh, there's a guy getting trampled by a stampede. There's a lion. Lightning. He's trying so hard. to be like like if you wanted to yeah just try a little bit just being a little artistic over the top with it but um that is a really good scene looks like cap is going to make it back in time for the playoffs what i'm gonna start him i knew that's that's the only reason you got me here i knew he was gonna sell me out cap's a leader he's a team player that's bullshit that is such bullshit he ain't half the

athlete i am you look me in the eye and tell me that cap is a better player cap's a better player i guess i was somebody else out there winning them last two games I put the points on the board. He lost four in a row. I leave by doing it. You kicked assed. Yeah, I did. But I'll tell you something. Cap Rooney's been doing it for years. And this time is over. And yours is too, unless you start taking some risk and start playing this game the way it's played today. It is not about the pitchers and trophies are all the more. I live this game for three decades, kid. I know football. Now those men on the wall, they wanted to win. Just like you do. You can feed the press and the fans that whole sacrifice and glory at the game crap. You do it with what. But I've been there.

I've seen a long line of coaches just like you all from college with that same old bullshit half time speech. Is that what you're? Yes, it's bullshit. You know what you know? It's bullshit because it's about the money. Ranking in the TV contracts, Fat Cat Boots is sitting in the skyboxes.

The coach is trying to update salaries. And the whole time, what you're looking for? You're looking for the next black stud to take it to the top ten. Get you in a bowl game. It's the same way in the pros. Except in the pros, the field hands get paid. Come on, I don't play that race. caught on me kid

25 years I work with men of your color maybe it's not racism maybe his place isn't brother has to know his place right folks I understand what you're talking what are you talking about by the way Oliver Stone makes a cameo in this movie did you notice that yeah I missed that that's his name his name is fucking Tug Kowalski

fucking Tug Kowalski he's the play by play guy play by play guy I was like this guy's famous right and he's the fucking director and I was like yeah yeah and his name is Tug like Tug yeah yeah yeah You definitely saw it in the movie. Former NFL pro or football pro?

So that brings me to this question. Best name of the movie. Several options here. Hit it. Tug Kowalski. It's a strong start. Montezuma Monroe, played by Jim Brown. Luther Shark LeVay, played by Lawrence Taylor.

And the winner, for me, Dr. Harvey Mandrake, played by James Woods. Jimmy Woods for the win? Dr. Harvey Mandrake. He sounds so corrupt A real important character in this movie Because a lot of this is about Just how teams would go about Switching results

Doing whatever cutting quarters they would To like try to protect their own ass And win on the field But like ultimately these people They don't really care about Pagniachi talks about cutting shark in the off season Because he's not gonna be worth anything To him at that point

So like force him to play right now Who cares? His health is on the line Like I said earlier A lot of this is like You get some good asses You give him an opportunity to cook. Dr. Harvey Manchrake has his whole spiel when he gets called out in practice, you know,

and he's suddenly, now he's playing ISO ball and he's like, these men are warriors. They made that choice long ago. Who am I to tell them what they should do with their bodies? Oh, and now you're going to play innocent, huh? You know what? Fuck your innocence. Then what about Bayer?

What about Nielstrom and Manziki? Logan and Kraus. I will not have you. I will not have this discussion with you. You don't want to hear the answer, Tony? Don't ask the question. And you, you fucking snitch. Did you ever think about shark putting food on the table or his kids going to college?

You lied to him. She didn't give him a choice. You've got to give him a choice. It's a doctor's ethics. Since when? The Hippocratic oath. You mean the one that starts, do no harm? With all due respect, Doctor, I didn't have to ask him because I knew the answer.

Who am I to tell these men they cannot live their dream? They will not live with shame like you. They are gladiators. They are warriors. And long ago, they made that choice. Not you. Not you. Not me.

Just Jimmy Woodsing all over the field. Love that scene. This movie really does put a spotlight on that concussion. It does. Yeah. You don't realize. Over and over again. Because again, it wasn't talked about NFL, but this thing was like,

hey, you guys, these bills are fucked up. Oh, fucked up. They're slamming their head against each other. They're throwing no flags. Especially back then. I don't even think they threw one flag. I didn't see a flag in the movie, except for on that last game-winning catch. That's true.

called it back. Greatest receiver of all time. I can catch you. Okay. Speaking of that, though, it was almost a sobering reality at the one scene when Jim Brown, of all people,

was he, Sharky was talking to? He's like, hey, man, if you ever seen one of those old punched drunk boxers, can barely remember anything and stamming around? You don't want that to be you. It's like, oh, man. On recent memories, I'm like, Jim Brown,

like literally the first person I think about when he's describing this. Jim Brown, the last few years of his life, Was exactly. Did he get there? Yeah, Oh, yeah. So he went from like this movie was 99.

You would say from that point almost. He passed away, I think two years ago. And then from like you said the last 10 years he was like starting to. Yeah, the last few years. I mean, he can't hit your head. I worry about that with me with what I did in college, man. Justin spent a lot of college slamming his head into my doors. I spent a solid two years weekly slamming my head into a metal door.

And I worry. Like I sincerely like, did I do damage again? I used to do it until I got dizzy. At this point, you might be asking. I used to purposely concuss myself. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you, dude. That's a concussion. Why, Justin?

Why did you slam your head at doors? I would never be able to put dents in a door. No, I said, because I was like, dude, I'll never be able to put a dent in a door the rest of my life. This is it. This is my time to put dents in doors with my head. This is my time to put dents in doors. I don't understand.

I don't understand it back then either. I was like, I'd have to do it, dude. That should have been, if we could have had like senior quotes in college, like that should have been Justin's right there. This is my chance with Denson Doors, man. I'm going to take it. Nobody else is there. You think you're going to stand it away.

Dan a door with your head. You take it. Do you not stand away in front of a man in his dream. Harvey Mandrake quote. Dr. Harvey Man Drake. Why is that the greatest doctor name in the history? It sounds like what like Joey Tribiani's character would have been on the young and the breastless or whatever.

Dr. Drake Ramore? Yeah, exactly. Neurosurgeon. It's right in that same realm. The Drake throws it in there for you. Man Drake. Drake. Who do you think?

Drake's. Drake's. Drakes. A lot of. Man Drake. Anytime it starts with man, it makes me think of like Dorothy Mantooth, West Mantooth, West Mantooth from Anchorman. Dorothy Manthew is a state.

You understand me? Dorothy Mantooth is a city. Hey, what do you think has better parties scenes? This movie or Ballers? The Show with The Rock. I mean, I love the Ballers show. Those 90s, the 90s party's got to be, they hit different. You know why?

Your wife is downstairs. No phones. That's why. Your wife is downstairs. No social media. You're ripping blow off of random girls sitting on a toilet getting, I believe that's called a blumpkin. A blumpkin. We had a blumpkin cameo in any given Sunday.

Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Out of fucking left field. L.L. Cool J. Bill Belmey. One of the wildest scenes in the late 90s.

I watched that scene three times just to figure out what the fuck just happened. And I couldn't follow. Anything, man. We got L.L. Cool J. Doing lines off of like, sneezing on. Bellamy's sitting there, like, just getting a blumpkin. And he's like, yeah, this girl was talking about, yo, sausage is wet. And then suddenly some other lady busts in.

She's like yelling at L.L or something. I didn't quite get the deal of who she was. There was no established anything with that beforehand. It's complete chaos. This is when Oliver Stone's directing gets like too much because like all of a sudden LL's like spitting a drink in somebody's face. Him and Bellamy are like kissing each other. And suddenly the ladies, like one of the one that was giving the Blumkin is like,

fuck you! And she's soaking. What happened to her? I didn't even know. I literally swear to God, I watch it back three times to be like, I'm trying to take notes. And then that scene goes away and it never gets talked about. The fact that they party their asses. It's just the life of the players.

It wasn't like they got in trouble or anything. It was just they party. I got to imagine that a lot of actual NFL players probably watch us. Like, man. What are you doing to us right? I don't need to be seeing this. I don't know how grained in reality these parties are, but like, it's Definitely didn't do the NFL players anything.

I'm pretty sure there's a pretty accurate. Minus to fucking cutting the car in half with a table. Do you know how fucking dedicated to revenge you have to be to cut a damn SUV in half with a fucking chainsaw? Table saw, a table saw on top of that. Honestly, you don't talk shit about somebody in their house. I agree. Willie had it coming, man. He shows up to Sharks party.

Shark grew some warmly. He's like, Gives him the bed. Don't come in. He's like, I got BJs upstairs, man. Just don't get anything on my wife's sheets. He comes back on Wednesday. Like, he is laying out the red carpet for you.

First thing you do is get in there and just start talking all that evidence. He just be like, man, the defense needs to play better. And L.L. He lets him, he gives him like, all right, hey, you don't want to talk about him like that in your house. And he's like, man, what about you? All you care about is your stats. And he's like, all right, man, it's on. You don't know what this man's shark is capable of, but you're about to find out.

We just step up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, lay off the D man. Shaw, I hear you saying that shit that'll kick your ass. Like I give a fine. I'm trying to win some games. I ain't trying to kiss no overrated loses ass.

Say what you care about anyway. You play for yourself. You're talking about everything else on. And you gotta earn the right to diss somebody on this team. The team? Call us a team. All I see is a whole bunch of super fly brothers

running around here, living in a white man's world. Tells him what's up in the hot tub. Five seconds later, dude is chain sawing his SUV in a half. And he was ready to go with it. He had the goggles on and everything. He was like, this is not his first car chainsaw and halting. He was efficient.

He was done it quick. He did that in like five minutes. You have to. It was like a man putting on an ice sculpture. Everybody was just like, woo. You would think they were taking pictures with their phones, but they weren't. They were just enjoying the moment of this man destroying a car in half. They're like, he's doing it again.

He's doing it again. There's another one. Oh, shit, Sharks at it again. Hey. Oh, he's coming. I love these points. Sharks down the chainsaw. Everybody come and watch.

I got some popcorn. Hey, somebody go tell Willie what he's doing. So he'll come out here and take a look too. He'll see. He'll find out. He'll hear it. He'll hear the uproarious crowd that's cheering on a chainsaw. He'll make his way out.

Talk about a great way to actually get revenge. Like, guys talking shit and you're out like, okay, what? You can beat his ass, make a whole scene for it. Or you can make a fun for everybody. Let him get the message deeper. Don't hurt your team quarterback. You know what I mean? He's still held.

He's still ready to go. Gets the message. I don't think there's a better way you can call it. You know what I mean? Like you know he's going to feel this one. That's leadership. That's leadership, man. Shark, true team leader.

Defensive captain. Luther Shark LeVay, a true legend. I've heard it many times, but I mean, we haven't brought it up because it's known, but absolutely one of the most legendary scenes from a inspirational point of view with Al Pacino at the end with his four minute spiel. The speech, man. The speech. We've heard it many because Castle put it in one.

of our college videos that we I didn't put that in there somebody else made that oh was that kid was that I think Sean O'Donnell made that one okay okay well it was either way somebody in our fraternity sorry to put that on but yeah it was a big one we're all get all hype on it stuff but yeah that that scene it's inspirational I made a video a couple years ago about the top five speeches and movies and it was a number one with a bullet for me absolutely the best speech it's just you know why because it's not too ham fists it it's not trying to be in your face about inspiration it just gets there it's got one of the greatest actors of our generation just cooking just doing his thing laying it out at

his own pace the music in the background just kind of works it's got that mellow guitar in the background carrying it enough to where you're like okay this is something i'm supposed to listen to he starts off by talking about super personal shit it's almost like all right i'm gonna call myself out I pushed away. Everybody that's ever loved me. I don't have any money anymore. So I'm down low. You guys are all I have.

And let me tell you about what I've learned as I've gotten older. Because I'm speaking from experience. And I'm not trying to be better than you because I just threw myself in the dirt. It's a good way to start an inspirational speech. Throw yourself an end in the hell first and then be like, this is how I got out of it. You want to get through to somebody. Come at them from like, I'm not being holier than thou. Okay.

Look, I'm not a perfect person. I've done a lot of things wrong in my life. But you know what I have done on all that time? I've learned a lot. And what I can pass on to you is how to be a true leader. A lot of this movie is a lot about being a man. On any given Sunday, you win some, you lose some. But can you win like a man?

That's the main quote they always go back to you. That came from the original owner. Art, what was his name? Pagniacchi? Yeah, Pagniacci. So then he starts, like, building him up. And after four weeks of Willie being the ultimate self-righteous diva, he turns a corner an instant one coach Tony DiMoto speech.

And then watching one half of football with Cap taking the rames back over. Realistic or effective? I mean, both. Yeah, I mean, if you're locked in and you have a coach that's talking to you like that that you've been with for some of those guys prior their whole career and you respect the guy and just speaking from truth, speaking from the heart, being vulnerable, Yeah, dude. You find out life's this game of inches.

So is football. Because in either game, life or football, the margin for error is so small. I mean, one half a step too late or too early, and you don't quite make it. One half second, too slow, too fast, you don't quite catch it. The inches we need are everywhere around us.

Hell you. They're in every break of the game, every minute, every second. On this team, we fight for that inch. On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches, that's going to make the fucking difference. between winning and losing.

Between living and dying. I'll tell you this, in any fight, it's the guy who's willing to die who's gonna win that itch. And I know if I'm gonna have any life anymore, it's because I'm still willing to fight and die for that itch. Because that's what living is.

The six inches in front of your face! Now, I can't make you do it! You've got to look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes. Now, I think you're going to see a guy who will go that inch with you. You're going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you're going to do the same for him. That's the team, gentlemen.

That speech gets me hype to this day. It makes me just want to take a feel. I'm like, fuck, I wish I had a rec league to dominate right now. I wish I had a game today. It's a very unique thing to be able to do that too. To be able to inspire through words and not go over the top and be almost excessive, like, oh, he's going too much or go under and not give enough energy. It's a very fine line of specific vocabulary.

You got to hit and have certain cadence to really kind of hone it in. And I don't think I've been a part of a good somebody doing that for me, like ever. None of my coaches. Maybe in fraternity when we used to get hype for poor. But other than that, my coaches sucked. I think attorney wise, we hyped up. We hyped you. I had a lot of coaches, too, and none of them hyped me up like that.

Yeah, right? I was always like, shut up, you know? I know more than you. It is a good point. I don't recall too many, you know, my wrestling coach. We all had shit coaches. My wrestling coach in high school delivered some effective stuff sometimes. I do remember that.

You know why? Because they're not the greatest actor of their generation like Al Pacino. That's the difference. By the way, so did we discuss that already? Is he a good coach? What is coaching in that, like, era, though? You got a defensive person. You got an offensive coordinator.

So you're basically just kind of like keeping everybody in line. Well, I'll tell you what it wasn't, but that he brings at the table is the swag of wearing a sports coat coat shirt. I don't feel like there was a lot of NFL coaches doing that at that time. They do that now? No. No. Everyone's wearing this. I think it works, though.

I think he makes it work. It pulls it off. He feels like an actual NFL hutch coach. And that's kind of what I like about his coaching stuff. I can't tell if he's an X-Zero's guys. It feels like he's short on that. Like he doesn't seem to make, at one point he, like calls two plays in a row, and then Willie Biamen's always just like, same play, same play.

And I'm like, maybe you shouldn't be shouting that to the sidelines. I don't know. I know this coach, Nick, he's a prick. This is a setup. I've seen this before. I were running again. Tony. Let's do it.

Come on. Okay, let's do you left 22. Yeah, 22. Three down. Five to go. Less than two minutes left in the game. All the starts have to do is hold on to. And the other coach was just literally like, you're running the same play.

Like he told us. That's why they brought in the offensive coordinator, too, to change it up. But no, he's sucking in the players. I thought I was going to say. I think the brains of the team is actually the offensive coordinator, Nick Crozier, played by Aaron Eckhart. So I think Tony's just like the leader of men. When Christina's going off on him about like how he's not getting through to the players.

And you see it play out with Willie. And this goes back to what I was saying earlier about. how Willie's just cold to him right away, which I was like, why is he immediately just being a dick the first time he's actually getting a play? And you know what it kind of reminded me of? Do you remember when Baker Mayfield got drafted to the Browns? Who was their coach of the time? The one that coached him for the winless season.

Hugh Jackson? Yep, that's him. Hugh Jackson. You got to put that picture up on it so they can see what we're looking at. Yeah, there you're smiling Hugh Jackson. He came about coaching Baker in his own way to where he was like, I want to work him in slowly. I think they had Tyrod Taylor, and they're like,

Tyrod's the starter. There's not a quarterback competition because, you know, nowadays a lot of times when a quarterback gets drafted number one overall, like a lot of people might expect him to start right away. Got to. Throw him in. But he was like, no, we're going to work him in. I'm going to bring him up on here.

We have this other guy that could start pretty good, not realizing that that ruined his relationship with Baker right from the start. He just was openly disrespectful to him and he was letting a know like he didn't like that guy He didn't care for him and I feel like it all started from just not embracing him as like you're the star of my team Even though he all knew that was gonna be the star but the fact that he was trying to bring him in slowly and Baker was like I'm ready to go now So maybe Willie's coming at it from like this guy saw me as a third stringer You hear a little bit of that come out when they're arguing he's like man you didn't say number two words where you're like oh You're gonna go run out to the knee side he's get left and your mom's gonna be ringing the door

You're back in the hood. Yeah, yeah. You're back in the hood. I'm like, hey. Coach, what are you doing? That's kind of what it comes out a little bit. But also at the time when he says that, Willie's rattled, man. Like, he needs to, like, have it simplified to him.

And that first game, Willie doesn't, he's, like, all over the place. Shit, you ain't said two words of me until Cherabini went down. Then it was, go out there and play like you're in the hood. And you're throwing the ball and your mama's ringing the dinner bell. All you do is talk at me, man. So I'm gonna stay who I am, steaming Willie Beam. Something that a lot of coaches don't recognize is like having that initial belief in a player sticks with them, whether or not they're starting or not. So then once they get the gig, they remember if you believed in them when they're a third stringer.

So I think that's what that taps into. But Tony pulls them back in with this awesome speech, lets them know that you've got to fight for your teammates. It's not just about you. I once had a coach that I didn't play all season. It was the last game. We were up by 20 with like four minutes left. And I was like, it's my chance. He's going to throw me in.

He didn't put me in. This would explain you trying to dent doors. You guys wonder why I'm this crazy Puerto Rican sometimes where I have this outburst? Yeah, this is because he fucking coaches, man. Billy, Billy, fuck you. A lot of the coaches that we had, though, it was not even like their primary job. Coach Billy did. He was a travel coach.

Fuck you. I'm upset for you. That's shitty coaches. That's shitty coaches. I did too. I recall having a lot of, I don't want to say run-ins. But just like coaches were by the end of the season. And I was just like, man, I'm over this guy.

And then they could sense that I'm over him. That's something that happens on every level. You see it in the NFL all the time. How many times these receivers are just like, man, I don't care of fuck to sit on the sidelines. Reading books and shit. Reading books, fucking. Yeah, so I was just bringing it around to a shitty coach that didn't give him the chance. Like Willie Beeman.

I feel his pain with that shit. But he gets inspired. And you know what? They do some good direction on the scene where you kind of kind of have a long shot on Willie. kind of he's getting through to him finally. Sometimes like a player like that, all it takes is like to have like kind of one good conversation, one good speech. And then on top of that, he accepts Cap for what he is and what he can teach him with his experience.

He talks about that at the end of game. So let's talk about that final game real quick. High scoring game. Can I just jump in real quick? Because that speech, obviously we're talking about is, you know, iconic and use a lot of sound clips, a lot of players referenced that speech all the time. I think the only problem I have after that is they fucking give up a 100 yard kickoff return to open the game. And I'm like that whole speech just fucking went out the window because he's trying to fucking inspire you guys to fight for that inch.

And special teams like, nah, fuck it. Fuck it. And fucking 1003 yard return. And then he's like, no, wait. No, it's right. We got it. We got it. Like, no.

A whole speech, bro? Yeah. After the most inspirational speech on record, the team literally gives off an opening kickoff or a touchdown. I'm watching that. I was like, wait a second. I was like transformed, like engulfed in that speech, and then I'm like, nah. People forget that. It gets often slept on that that speech actually did not work in the short term whatsoever.

Think big picture. Might have worked against him. But you know what he says, though, that I always appreciate because it's something that I've said to myself. It always sticks with me. He's like, nobody ever said we're going to win on a shoutout. Let's go. Because there's been so many times where I've been watching a Niners game and then like the other team just throws a bomb like right off the gate. And I'm just like, nobody ever said we're going to win a shut out.

Let's do. Hey, we've got to throw one right back, you know? Like, we got a game to play. He didn't seem like it bothered him out. He's like, it's okay. That happens. It's like, we'll move on there. It's kind of the thing I actually like about him as a coach in this movie is just his reaction to shit.

He always just has like a cool kind of response when he's like, they're warming up. And he's willing, I don't want you pad the ball like that. He's like, oh, come on, man. You know, I'm the man. I repeat. I don't want you pat the ball. You want a cool tight spiral. And don't pat the ball.

It's tight as fog. That's six, coach. You know, man. You're the man, I repeat. Don't pat the ball. They can see it. And then, all right, Rock, why don't you go ahead and take a seat? And he's like, oh, man, I keep going. He's like, we all know.

You got the balls, Rock. Take a seat. Okay, Captain. Sit there. I'm fine. Fine. You got the balls. We all know that.

You all know, just get some rest. Let's go. He just always has, like, a quick response. That's like, cool. But, like, he gets his message across, you know, like, keeping it together. He's being a good. He's being a good. I don't know if he's good with the X's and O stuff.

That's Nick Crozier's part. The people part. People part. He's the man of the people. He's a good, like, yeah, a leader of men. That's clearly what he's best at. But obviously not good enough with the X and O's because I gave up a fucking touchdown right after the best speech of his fucking life.

But I think that that game is in the running for me of best football movie game ever. It's up there. I would at least put it in the top three. There's a lot of like back and forth. But at the same time, they never lose you on it. There's a lot of cool scenes. All of a sudden, fucking. T.O's in the house, catching a long touchdown.

Hello. Where did he come from? Was that the only scene that Terrell Owens was in the whole movie? Did you guys see that? Wait, I totally missed that. You missed that? Terrell Owens is on the Sharks. He catches like the first touchdown they get of the game.

It's like a long touchdown bob. And his name is Owens. No shit. Yeah. This is like young Terrell Owens. This is probably like second year in the league on the Niners. I think I still caught up on that kick return TD. I was so quite upset about it.

It's cool. They like pick him up and he does like one of these. It's very quick. But his name is actually Owen. You can see it's back. Yeah. Very good back and forth game. A little bit of a chess match with, was that Johnny Unitas, the other coach?

Oh, that wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Cap Rooney for that first half. He laid it out on the line right there. Fucking has his John Elway moment to try to get it in. And I think that they, considering that this movie wrote itself in a corner with the two quarterbacks, like, who do you go with? Again, they're not making one out to be like, this is the one you should root for,

you should root for this one. They both make their case. This is what they're going through. and they handle it beautifully the way it gets handed off at halftime and he does it without even saying to him and he's like, never forget what you do for this team. And he's like, do what you gotta do, coach. Look at me, rock.

A little warrior out there. Go do your job, coach. And then he sits down with Willie. And he's like, this isn't about me and you anymore. I need you to lead this team. He never tells Cap, I'm sitting you. He never tells Willie I'm starting you. He just gets man to man with both of them.

and they both get what's at play here. And then fucking Christina Pagniacci comes in like a fucking storming bitch. Storming bitch. Storming bitch. Well, well, look who's here. Half-time locker room visits. Just making her way down from a luxury box. I'm going down there.

Sorry, is the classical music getting too loud for you up there? And here we go. Willie's off and running. I like that. He tells him just, you know, let it fly. He gives him a little good pump-up speech, and now we're off and going. Willie immediately throws a pick six.

That's the other thing I was just kidding. I was just going to say that, dude. He's like, I don't care. I don't want you to think. I want you to let it fly. And then I'm like, yeah. And then fucking pick six. I'm like, you guys are just not listening to.

Again, maybe his coaching isn't effective for on-field play. Or initially. Initial. It takes time to develop. Big picture here. We're thinking big picture. Let it rip. Then, of course, this game also features one of the most chaotic scenes in football.

That just fears that Oliver Stone can throw so match at you. at once when he wants it to. I already know what you're going to say right now. So all of a sudden, a guy in the field gets his fucking eyeball poked out. While that's happening, they're like showing close up to crowds, player action,

coach reactions, look at what's happened. There's suddenly a fight in the stands they go to. They're like showing cheerleaders. They got them like scooping up an eyeball. Then they're cutting a Barry Switzer and Tug Kowalski. And they're just like, random.

You get an eye injury. It looks like hit damage was high. And then we're back to playing. Like, they're literally like just throwing shit, light speed every second to be like, oh, there's a lot going on right now.

I don't know. The eyeball is just laying on the field for like a good like minute and a half. It's just chilling there. Yeah. And I looked it up. Has that ever happened in a professional football game?

No. Okay. There's been eye injuries, but I'm like, no one's really like lost in eye. It's just completely fell out. Your finger has to go in the eye and pull it like yank out.

Yeah, it would be a lot. Stone was just in his bag in that one. He's like, what's the craziest shit I could make happen? Yeah, you've heard this too, probably, like, when they're like all together and there's eye poking and grabbing and. Sure. But to like, yeah, a little ice cream scooper. It's like a lot to get it. That ball was up and clean too.

And like the, you know, the attachments or the ligaments. It was all. It was like, yeah, exactly you're saying. I'm like, what the fuck just happened right now? How did that happen? It's almost like Oliver was just in his bag in that one. He was just like, hey, I know, I know. I got a good eye guy in effects.

Let's use this. I got a guy you can make a dope-looking eyeball. You think we can make a scene where there's an eyeball on the field? I owe him. I couldn't use it in my last film. You guys, mind? It'll work. It'll work.

Oh, it'll play. It'll play. It's cool. We'll cut to like three different fights at the same time. There's like four different fight scenes in that last game. Here's the one where the guy with a construction helmet just like bashes the guy in the head. It's almost like they filmed a few. Like, are we going to.

And then they just in the last game, they're like, fuck, we forgot to use these the whole movie. Just throw them all. Get them all in there. There's like so many different fight scenes. We get to a point then. The sharks need to stop, right? It was a one score game. It was, yeah, it was a crucial down. Sharks got his deal where he asked for two shots before he's like,

they got to get one more of those shots, Doc. Please. Come on. Please. I'll be your best friend. Come on, please. Have another shot, Doc. You don't need it.

It doesn't make any sense. Medically. Give a shit about medical, Doc. some of that quarters on shit please at the moment before you know what it actually reminded me of as much as i hate to say it when the niners and the ravens played in the super bowl the niners are right there they were on first and goal on about the nine so i'm a huge niners fan this is this is me ripping my christian mcalfrey going through his willie beeman phase shirt right here super bowl's online right there and i remember seeing films footage where ray louis and it's harrell sugs and they're all like

just standing there and they're just like This is it right here. This is where we hold him. And I'm like, that's got to be one of the most kind of badass moments for like a defense blindman. And that's kind of what they built up in that moment. Like we can turn him around right here. We stop them on this play.

Shark makes the hit. Maybe dies for a second. For sure. It's not clear. Definitely died. Yeah, he was dead. It's not even clear that he could walk afterwards. He has to get stretched out.

They said he's not breathing at one point. But he's cool because he's worth a million dollars. He's got a million. It doesn't not drop me. Worth a million dollars. Better not drop me. Don't you guys drive me? I'm worth a million dollars.

I know you're like trying to distract me with your helmet. I recognize. What's that? He's locked in right now. He's that listening. He's doing the thing where he's just like, hey, look at me. This is where we stop. He's Luther.

This is where I go full on Shark LeVay on it and stop you on fourth and one. He's a method actor. And I just keep pushing through. J. Way you understand me. I totally understand. I didn't question it one minute. You know what at the end of the game?

This is a critical time to his time back? They end up calling Comanche. Nick Crozier is like, what are you kidding me? And again, I just love the way Coach Dee responds. He's like, well, this is what coaching's all about. We're going to run Camacho. I got a hunch. Comanche.

Tony, we got nine seconds. If he stopped in bounds, the game's over. There's no timeout. This is what coaching's all about, Nick. Julian Washington fires it all the way down the sideline steps out of bounds He's like unselfish unselfish the guy who's been worried about his contract is that's all here Decided to step out with four seconds and also the effect they do where it's that close up of the clock It's like a quick flash and then the time changes awesome effect love that like zoom in on the light bulbs

Yes, the zoom is like that's pretty cool five seconds I like I said sometimes is Oliverstone editing Pretty fucking cool then on the final playing Willie jumps like nine feet in the air Super sick Jump over the pile Get you some of those metrics Protein bar Strawberry ones

Delish And they say he like fumbles in There's like a thing And I wrote down Did anybody love a single line In this movie More than the ref who gets the ball He goes

Touchdown This is one line in the movie And he milks it He makes it count I'll throw it in right now I want to see that audition tape. Give us the best touchdown. Oliver Stone, yeah.

Oliver Stone gave him a speech too, like Tony and Emato. We need more. Try one more time. Yeah. I also wonder, though, on the flag play, did the replacements bite that? Because the replacements do the same thing a few years later. Like, it seems like they had the dramatic game-winning play,

and then they're like, flag. I guess it's a common thing, yeah. Definitely if you're the chiefs. Although your team used to be that before. Easy. Easy. We're fucking. terrible right now so just spoke it in

he's like let me have hey these colors don't run right here he's like let me have I like I so appreciate that he supports his team even when they they should have the first pick but even don't even have that so yeah they just don't want to see me happy I just totally fine we've been there

they gave me some great years coming there oh yeah the guy rips off a gorilla mask in the final four seconds we in the final four seconds we got so rant dude the whole like actually so much going on The most annoying one of it was the owner's box. I was annoyed with the owner's box so much during the movie. I didn't feel like it really mattered.

But in the final drive, they keep cutting back to like Cameron Diaz and her mom, just having like conversation that's like, who cares? Who cares? I don't care. What is it? This conversation, like, you can't even hear what they're saying, but like, I don't care. I'm invested in this game. Why aren't you guys?

They had the two dogs. Christina, aren't you like the fucking owner of the team? Why aren't you paying attention? She's like, I don't know. things are changing. And it's like they're literally on the final drive with like 30 seconds to go. And they're like just sitting in their luxury box with the classical music playing with their fucking little dog.

I don't give a fuck. They're not even watching the game. I couldn't believe it. Not even watching the game on the final drive with the whole season on the line. I get that Mrs. owner's wife is like checked out because she gave said that football ruined her life. She doesn't care. She's just there to drink and party and like hang out with upperclassmen.

That's her whole game. Christina Pagniachi. You're not going to pay attention. while you're a quarterback that you're trying to like make franchise player is like leading the team down the field. I guess as an owner really doesn't matter. You get the result at the end and then you make decisions on that. She's a hands-on owner though. She shouldn't be paying attention what's happening.

Anyways, that whole cutaway to those. It's just, it's driving. Irritated Castle, clearly. Yeah. So that ends the movie. And then my only question at the end is, where the hell does Tony go at the end? They have that final, like, little conversation. And he just disappears.

And then Jamie throws a pass. And then he's just like, it's my shoulders. And then he's just gone. He's like, he was a ghost the whole time. Tony DiMato was in your mind. He went to go see Jesse Spano. Maybe he's like, like, I call a girl. Mandy.

That was her name, right? Mandi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then how the hell did Tony sign Willie Beeman just from out another nose at the end? New Mexico. The New Mexico, that's another team, the Albuquerque Aztex. Yeah, was there tampering? Yeah.

It's a different time. Literally, it seems like he's given their farewell speech, and he's like, oh, by the way, I'm going to coach that new expansion. team and I just signed Willie Beeman. And when he first says it, Christina doesn't have enough of a reaction. It kind of like comes later. I'm like,

your man's kind of hosing you down over here. Then she has to act like she cares. I'm like, no, we saw you in the Super Bowl or the Pantheon Cup. You were talking to your mom about like dog biscuits and coffee. Like, we didn't give a fuck at this point.

Yeah, I thought you would just point this out that they did lose the San Francisco in the next round. San Francisco. Which I, did I mention this earlier? There was the San Francisco nights on the schedule. Yeah.

But then there were the Dallas Nats of the end. Was it spelled? Was it spelled the same way or was it like nights like the evenings? Like night time? That would be dope if there was a nights in the league and a nights of San Francisco evenings. I like that. All games are at night for sure. It has to be.

You can't do any like to any endings. All right. So real quick, let's cover our final awards for now that we've kind of run through the whole movie. That's taken just as long as the entire movie. Almost. Almost. Do we still call these the thingies? It doesn't matter.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Who is your MVP of any given Sunday? It has to be. Willie Beeman. He's the game changer. He brought the swag back to Miami. Not only that, he burned them at the end too. He was a loyal guy stuck with Tony. He made that movie for me. You kind of got mad at him sometimes because, you know, his head got too big, but at the same time,

it's like, you know what, if I was a pro for four years and I got my shot and I'm actually cooking, don't fucking put me back on the fucking bench with Jesse Spano. Jesse Spano's waiting there for you in her Mandy face. Not so bad. Yeah, give me Willie Beehman. That's my MVP. I mean, for me, it's a fight between Willie and Tony. But, I mean, considering that my fantasy team name has been, his team in Willie Beeman and Willie Beeman Invisible Juice, I can't go against Willie.

He was innovative of what was to come from the quarterback position because it wasn't, you weren't seeing that much. We had Randall Cunningham in the 90s that was a player like that, and that's it. And now half the league is all about, if you want to draft a fantasy quarterback, you want the athletic guy that's going to pick up yards with his feet. It's like what the game is now.

And you know who saw that? Willie Beeman. and Christina Pagnachi. They were ahead of the game. Tony had to learn that, and eventually he did. He was willing to learn from Willie, too. He says that in the final press camera. So you're saying Willie and Tony, pick one?

I picked Willie. I said it's between them. I got to pick Willie. Whose life was ruined from this team? Sharp LeVay, because he died like 15 minutes later? I see your point, but she actually spoke it and said this. Also, who, through sexual intercourse, created the next head of the organization

so that this organization could continue to grow and even have this kind of team. You're talking about Mrs. Pagniachi. MVP. How is she MVP? Without her, she doesn't, having sex to have a Miss, what was her, the daughter? Christina. Then you don't get her being able to control the team. If not, it goes to some other owner and we have a whole different storyline.

So for the story to be what it was and see all the way down, I got to go with the mom. Except for the fact that she was kind of annoying in all of her scenes. She had a pretty good back and forth. Yeah, that was annoying. She's like, she was always on one. She was always like, yeah. She has a pretty good back and forth with Tony close at the end. But you know what annoyed me about that scene is there's a big wide open window and there's an awesome sunset outside.

And then the maid comes and closes his curtains on it. I'm like, what are you doing? You're going to close the curtains on a dope sunset? As a sunset lover, I was offended. I was like, open that shit back up, dude. We're viving right now. So the maid is not your MVP. Neither is.

Mrs. Pagniacci. So we got Willie Beeman and Miss Pagniacci as the two MVP's in the movie. In fact, we could go ahead and jump right to the practice squad player, which is the person you don't need, because mine isn't necessarily Mrs. Pagniacchi, but the whole sequence of scenes in the owner's box, as I just explained. I hated that the-O-O-Rowx scenes. I hated the way they dragged down the scenes. It was like they're trying to do too much. You could show one shot of it. Oh, it's kind of stuffy and like there.

But then the fact that they kept going back there with like no clear reason for it. it other than maybe a little conversation with fucking Charlton Heston NFL commissioner which by the way I forgot to ask that what is uh let's let's do that one real quick what's the best cameo in this movie I was gonna say Charles Charles because he's the commissioner and he was on they are playing Ben Hurr earlier like you said you're right he's in there twice you know he's just in there and I was thinking ah Gordon Street I just kept thinking about Gordon Street Gordon Street one fine day on Gordon Street Gordon Street oh yes Gordon Street.

I once knew a girl who lived on Gordon Street long time ago. I kind of liked Dick Butkus as the coach of, I forget which team. That was a good one too. He just shows up. What a name. That's like all-time names. All-time name. Dick Butchus.

Even better than Montezuma Monroe, arguably. But at one point, that was like when Willie's just first starting, like his first game. And he's like, hey, where'd you find this F word? It's not the F word you want to say, but it's like his main line. movie so dick butkus making his impression felt your 12th man was dick buckus no no no that was my cameo i kind of switched to starting to talk about which who had the best cameo yeah you went out of nowhere you didn't even get us to answer him so what is so what is i'll answer both of him he answered uh his came my cameo charles charles and hesson as the NFL as the commission as as as a pre uh roger godell

a precursor roger god man the practice squad yeah practice squad player i actually was going to say mrs pagniacchi too just because the story you could say it i didn't really care about her story. I like the dogs though. They're cute. Cute dogs. You know, she was just kind of just there. The story was about, you know, the daughter. My pick is who was unnecessary who didn't need to be there whatsoever other than

to annoy us? Capruini. Miss Paganacci. She was out of me. Oh, wait, wait, wait, you know what? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah. I was going to insult. What about Cindy Rooney? Okay, that's what I was, I just got upset because I was like, I was thinking about Caparuni's wife. I can slapping him in the face for daring

to retire from the game that's made millions for you. I got so mad at that part. I got so frustrated at her. Don't hit him. He has made a life for you. Playing this game, he's breaking down physically. We know who you are, Mary Swanson.

Mary Swanson, Lauren Holly. She noticed that? That was the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So her name was Cindy Rooney? Mary Swanson, all grown up. Yeah. That was actually my...

I was going to say... That's going to get me in trouble. So my first question was like, who's the worst character? And then I realized we kind of have that to practice squad player. But my least favorite character, was Cindy Rooney. Fucking bitch. I guess I mean she did a good job at that because I was very upset with her.

That's why I didn't want to make her the 12th. Because I actually think that that story is important to be in there. I think it's like a effective part of the movie to be like told. Yeah, like what it's like with these players wives and everything. And they have that whole scene where like Vanessa meets them and they're all just a bunch of stuffy bitches. Or like, oh, it doesn't get her if you don't got the ring girl, you know. Nessa hates that party. Hates that party.

I would too, man. Fuck those. Jim Brown was my cameo. I feel like he played a great role. Did you notice that every coach of the other teams throughout the movies like classic football players? So they have, like we said, Johnny Unitas. Dick Buckus, Y.A. Tiddle, Bob St. Clair, Pat Toomey, and Warren Moon.

Oh, make appearances. So there you go. All right. And then let's finally do the six men off the bench, which I feel like in this movie. For some reason, I feel like that's the true award, the like main award, because there's a lot of good options. Guy who comes off the bench. It wasn't one of the main characters, so you can't say. Al Pacino or Cameron Diaz or Jamie Fox.

I'm going to go Bill Belamy's character, Sanderson. What was his first name? I don't even know what his name was. Sanderson, no drama and just believed in Willie from the start. And that was his number one. I catch everything. I catch everything. I guess everything.

I'm the best receiver. And then he's also obviously J-Man's man because they're getting blumpkins next to each other by a couple of prostitutes in the BJ room. Fucking blumpkins. Yeah, give me Sanderson. The shark. I feel like he played a great role. That's a mascot?

The mascot shot. No, I'm talking about Lawrence, Lawrence Taylor's. The Mascot. It would have been great. If it was the mascot, I really liked the way he ate the government and said. Yeah, Luther. Not only did he bring forward the concussions protocol and all that being a big part of it, but he also, like, he was badass, man.

You ain't fucking with him on the field. Like, you were truly scared of him, and he was retired for like 10 years. Yeah. By the time this thing, you were still like, I do not want to get hit by that man. Then destroy me. So, yeah, I'm giving it to him. The shark. What does it say right there?

Can anybody read it? Definite six men. LT, definite six man. The shark. Same thing. Same character. I just wanted to point out that I had that written in bold.

Lawrence Taylor is incredible in this movie, really. Is he playing any other movies? I haven't seen him in anything, but he's so good, and you believe him because you know about his defense of his abilities and his accolades. He's legit. So when he's talking,

you're like, this man is actually speaking from experience. This guy has seen it all. He knows exactly what goes down on the field and locker rooms. And that scene he has in the sauna. with Jamie Fox, where he's just like chilling there, isolated. And he's like, you lead it. But did they follow it? And he has like this whole monologue.

And he delivers it without overacting it. He's literally just like speaking with that. It's like, you would think he's like a legit trained actor. And he fucking crushes that part. Does. Sure. The game's taught you how to strut. How to talk shit.

How to hit. What else? Suddenly there's no more money. More applause? And then he gets it done on the field. You gets it done in the party scenes. He fucking chainsaws a damn SUV in a half with a skill saw. Come on.

Yeah. True LT. Did this movie result in the X-Feld, do you think? I wonder if this is what started it. It started talks about it for sure. Because this was probably made 98. I think the X-Fel started in 2000. Like I feel like Vince McMahon saw this and got his wheels spinning.

It was just like, kind of like what I see there. So, yeah, there it is. On any given Sunday. Oh, yeah. wait, I forgot to ask you guys if you had a best quote, just because I had one I wanted to say. Nope. I do have one. I had to write it, though.

I mean, obviously, I could have gone on the easy route and go coach Tony Diomato. Yeah, what did you go? I went with a Willie Beeman quote what he's like, I'm trying to win coach. I ain't trying to disrespect nobody, but winning is the only thing I respect. And I was like, let him cook. Willie makes it clear to anybody that will listen that, like, winning is like his own thing. Which is easy to say when you're on like a three-game win streak. I'm trying to win.

Like, talk about milk in there. So I got a couple quotes. So obviously, anything that you want to pick from Tony's speech at the end, great speech. I liked what I said when he's like, well, Nick, this is what coaching is all about. I like when Shark is before the game, the doctor's like, how are the headaches? And he's like, Fonzie, he started doing that shit. That was funny. How the headaches?

It's fine until he started doing that shit. Obviously, the O of G, the original quote, I didn't give it Sunday, you're going to win or lose? The point is, can you win or lose like a man? And then my favorite quote, at one point, Jamie Fox, he just says, I'm a righteous motherfucker. Right deuce dog, 90 smoke on three. Jimmy, you're one, ice, you're two. Champagne, you clear out. Jayman, check the flat.

On three. Yeah, really, don't force it in there if you don't got it, baby. What about that, baby? I'm a righteous motherfucker on three, ready? That's the note I want to end on. Hey, we fight for that inch. We fight for every inch. That's six inches in front of your face.

Put your helmet on. Wait, did you say six inches? Six inches on a good day. Enjoy your Super Bowl Sunday, everybody. Just remember, wanted to give it Sunday. You the win or lose, but can you be a righteous motherfucker?