Dissect DJs - Fleetwood Mac - Dreams

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

We take a ride back to 1977 while simultaneously dissecting 2020 with the re-birth of this absolute classic by Fleetwood Mac - "Dreams", as we break down the real story that lies beneath. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This is a DASSEC. D-B-G-G-Js. Hey, you feel that? You feel the vibes? Yes. You know what that is? Tell me. Dreams.

You know who we are? With a da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-ssea-d-jays. What's going on, Steve? It's our time again. It's back. It is back. And we got to throw it way back. while also keeping it current, which doesn't make sense.

But if you're living right now in 2020, it makes the most sense. It's time to visit a group that is probably anybody in our age range, your parents vibe back when they were coming up. Fleetwood Mac. Could be grandparents if your family gets down and has babies right around that 17 mark. Grandparents. Well, Fleetwood Mac is one of those groups that just existed like forever. Even when they just had to like basically replace the entire group just to hang on,

Next you know it was like one original member, three replacements on like a contest winner. It kept it going. I think they're probably still going to this day, but like props to them. Which is crazy because in 1977 is the release date of dreams. Yeah. And that is a solid 43 years ago. So again, my argument is, couldn't possibly be talking to some grandchildren. That's true.

Yeah. That's where we're at this point. Yeah. But let's just go ahead and go right for the jugular on why we're digging up. up dreams right now because this entire track has had an entire new life given to it just in the past month thanks to tic-tok right i fucking hate tic-tac but it's one of those things you have to accept we never we put out a poll a couple episodes ago like hey should the dissect djs get a ticot and four people answered and what do they say we'll take that back four thousand people answered

how many of them actually answer the question two all right what they say No. No. Okay. Well, that's cool, because I've never looked at TikTok and I'm good on not looking. Because you know what happens is like any video that apparently becomes worth looking at TikTok, it finds its way in Instagram anyways. It's fine.

Or whatever. It gets around, which is the exact example that this video is because we got this video of that dude vibe in with a skateboard and his cranberry juice bottle. I've only seen clips of this guy doing this. It's all it is. It's just a clip of him just doing that. And drinking cranberry juice. That's the whole thing.

Ocean spray, though. Yeah, ocean spray. My favorite cranberry juice. Yeah, you like cranberry. I don't. Well, ocean spray specifically. Yeah. Very good.

Every time I go to Justin's house, I'm like, you got anything to drink? He's like, I got cranberry juice. I'm like, love cranberry juice. You got water? Because I don't really much. High in vitamin C, high in potassium, and high in zinc. I bet you guys didn't know that. I'm actually really stoked to see this song get the recognition that it deserves because I have a playlist

that is a go-to of mine called Sunset Jams. And it is like, it's like top three. sunset and you know me I live at the beach I skate every day I love doing my sunset skates everybody knows this about me and one of my go-to low-key if you ever see me skating around in Manhattan Hermosa beach Redondo wherever and you see me skating to sunset there's a very good chance that I'm listening to Fleetwood Mac dreams okay so this has always been one of my go-to jams when it comes to like skating the sunset because it just has that beautiful vibe with it so on the one hand I'm like I'm kind of stoked to see like oh it's getting

the love it's served but then there's a certain point when it starts getting played everywhere you're like but wait look i've been jamming on this for a minute y'all trying to like jamming this tuna you get offensive of it you get defensive on it you know yeah and i'm me coming from the uh inland empire you know if you're rolling the streets of san bredino in my chelo bike that i got in my garage like what's up dog we're rolling it's good with that too yeah it's good he rolls with that too that's what thing with this guy as he's rolling you realize this song crossed all ages all All genres, all ethnicities, all nationalities. This song is one of those classics, so let's get into it.

Let's let the lyrics flow. Talk to us, Fleet. Can I just tell you before we get started that I have come to appreciate the dissect DJs because I listen to songs in just a completely different way. I'm glad that you appreciate what we do. Thank you, Dicek DJs. You're welcome. If without you, I wouldn't be alive.

You probably would, but we wouldn't be as much dissecting music with your life as All I'm saying is if the dissect DJs were not alive, both of them, then I wouldn't be alive. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's true. So, what are you trying to get at? I was just, I was just thanking the dissect DJs for dissecting songs because this song I had no idea was about a breakup, which most songs tend to be about either getting together, breaking up, or making a lot of money. Is it really? Those are the four, like, it's called dreams.

So, but you know what, now that I'm already hearing it, and I, like, first of all, I never knew it was about a breakup. But as I was just, like, putting it together, I'm like, why would I be? breakup song be about dreams. Oh, yeah. And I think about like girls' Instagram posts that I've seen when they're basically trying to announce their breakup, but not in so many words. And basically like the general vibe is like dreams. Yeah. Okay. It's all coming to me now. Yeah. You know, in a relationship you immediately, especially during that honeymoon phase, everything starts going like, oh, we, we can do this and that and we can then do this again. You know, just all these different stupid dreams that you come up with and you come to find typically, as in the case with me, after about that six-month mark,

those dreams are bullshit. He's got a mark on it. It really does, though. It's a six-month mark, y'all. Everybody check your relationship. Do not do anything until after six months. I would fully say a year, go through all the holidays, go through an entire year of everything about a person, and they're really looking to it.

And then at that point, there is some credence to that because I feel like six months is right around that mark where, like, is that there's a real thing within like two people that it's just kind of like not working and it's just like there's not like the vibe that you really kind of need it's a good time to call it that's the point when you're like I can't really get into this like fuck these dreams yeah I know dreams are bullshit this was all the dream yeah and and I don't need to keep chasing this dream so let's talk about lyrics and we're going to probably go through all of them because they're pretty simple now here we go again you say you want your freedom well who am I to keep you down Immediately, you're right.

If you don't sing that, you start to actually understand, like, oh, okay, I see what's happening. Immediately, somehow that always went over my head. Because her voice, now that I'm talking to. Her voice just takes me on such like a nice little ride that I don't even really listen. Now, you don't try to do... But we normally try to do a little bit of, like, kind of like the song when we do it. You can't do Stevie Nix like Stevie Nix does. Can't do Fleet, you know?

You can't do the Mac. Whatever. It's not really the Mac. Let's say with Fleet. We just did return on the Mac. Go with the, you know. I know what you're doing. So second verse, it's only right that you should play the way you feel it.

But listen carefully to the sound of your loneliness. Okay. Like a heartbeat drives you mad in the stillness of remembering what you had. That's actually really bomb poetry. Not even like. And what you lost. Oh. And what you had.

And what you had. And what you lost. And what you lost. So, yeah. I mean, straight to the point, actually. Once I say it without putting the amazing Stevie Nix vibe to it. You know, I start to understand pretty quickly. This is about the dreams that this girl had.

He wants to get his own freedom. He wants to move along. And she's like, yo, you better realize what you have. Mm-hmm. And what you love. I like the poetry of, go ahead. What you? Yeah, he had to get that.

What you know. Yeah, you have to finish. You know. You gotta get out. I was like, I wasn't listening to you until I did too. I was letting you have it. No, I actually really like the poetry of talking about how. You know, I'll let you sit in your loneliness where all you're going to hear is that heartbeat.

And that's going to remind you of what you had, what you lost. And what you had. What you love. It's just shape vibes. That's all I get from the song, man. Just nonstop. I got to be honest, that's second verses, you know, I mean, I tend to be the disagreeer of things. things.

And as I'm reading this second verse or wherever we are at this point, I'm disagreeing with a lot of these things. Let's get into it. Number one. Oh, thunder only happens when it's raining. Not true. No, it's not accurate. It's a bullshit statement. It usually actually happens before the rain really shows up.

It kind of like during the, it kind of lets you know rain is potentially afoot. Very highly chance. You might start getting the truth. They may not get anything. I just kind of want to be loud. I've seen thunder countless times without any rain. Yeah, right. Exactly.

So I don't know what she was getting. She was kind of rude there. Players only love you. It's kind of rude. I don't even say rude. Well, a different definition word. It sounds good when she says. A different definition word that works better for what I was trying to describe, which I don't even know.

Agreed, but it does sound good when she says that. I'll always say that. All right. I mean, carry on. That's Stevie. That's Steve. That's Steve. either yeah if he's playing he's that's the opposite really doesn't love you at all i mean he might

like you a lot and care about you but uh love is a whole different spectrum of you know i don't know what that means but i will take over and say something that's words if you got embroiled with somebody that is a player maybe they were playing when they first met you but if they reached a point when they're actually now loving you, there's a good chance that that is when the playing stops, you know? They're ready to commit. Basically. That's what your relationship entails.

Yeah. To suggest that a player actually only loves you when they are playing is absurdly off. That just doesn't make sense in any math. It's almost the exact opposite. It's pretty much the exact opposite. That's all I could say. All right, next line. They say women.

They will come and they will know. True statement. I'll agree with her on that one. Yeah. I understand where she would say that. from her perspective, though. That's what they will say. I need you to kind of get,

tell me what you think of this next one. When the rain washes you clean, you'll know. That's another poetic one. You'll know. Which I got to, okay, I'll run right through this because I want to get to that little solo right there.

That's really the part where this song finds me. But the rain washes you clean, you'll know. Yeah, that's just great poetry. Now, there's a deeper meeting, I think, if we really look into this. Thunder only happens when it's raining. So if we're talking metaphorically, what does that mean to?

I don't know what metaphorically means. All right. So I'm just going to go ahead and keep trying to run with it myself then. Thunder. You can tell me what metaphorically means to you. What is metaphorically? It's like what is the words she's saying trying to represent? Oh.

You know? So she's obviously talking about our relationship. So what is the thunder there? Let's work backwards here. Thunder is like a disruptive force. So something that's like, messing with a relationship. And it only happens when it's raining.

So assuming from a relationship standpoint, a relationship is starting to rain, like something's going bad. So now the thunder's really rumbling in and like everything's cool as you're coasting. But when like it starts raining a little bit, that's when a thunder hits you. And it's that rain then that will wash you clean because you're going to come out of whatever that fight is with a more better understanding of where this relationship is right now. And like what that person is to you, how you feel about them. who they really are.

How do you spell metaphorically? Is that like... M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R-I-C-L metaphorically. Oh, wait, wait, there's another L and a Y there at the end. It doesn't matter. I usually avoid your whole spelling B questions, but I could crush metaphorically. Well, I heard you, but I didn't really, like,

understand a thing you said. All I'm looking at with this when I'm saying is, Thunder does not only happen when it's rains. Players don't love you when they're playing. And women, they will come and go, true. And the rain washes you clean, you'll know, you'll know, yeah, unless you're sleeping or like in like, you know. It doesn't really watch you clean, though. The grain actually kind of legal.

Well, you're probably clearer than you were initially before the rain got to you. So if it washes you clean, you'll know. You'll know. You'll know. And then get into this next part because this is actually the song, right? Everybody hears the music. She sings it great, but we all know to go. Can we just play that again?

Because that's like my favorite part. I'm going to do a rare thing. I want to request that we replay something we just did. He'll do a perfect at this point. Dude, I honestly feel like I just took two soft puffs of a spicy J right now. I just feel like, and you're like five minutes into it, and you're just like, this is exactly where I want to be. Five minutes it's key Because the first 30 seconds

You're like, it's still in your throat Yeah, no, it's like the little When you finally got past that part Now you're just like Oh yeah I'm chilling right now By the way I've never smoked weed In neither has gas

We're just kind of assuming This is how I imagined it would go If you were to take a spicy two hitter But yeah do that right there That's honestly my favorite part of the song If you follow me on Instagram You will see me Throw some stories of my sunset adventures

as I'm like skating around. But you know what? I never plan it. It's just sometimes like, this is how it happens. I have my sunset jams that I listen to. The sunset looks amazing. No two sunsets are the same.

And I'm like, I got to capture this right now. And if I am going to do a sunset video to this song, that's the part I'm going to use right there. Because that's a top five all time instrumental breakdowns for me. For me. Like you can almost imagine just being at like Woodstock or something and like just everybody's waving back and forth.

just in it. That's what that takes me to. So at this point, we are at the middle of the song. And really, it only has one more verse. And then the remainder of the song is going to go back to talk about Thunder. Which we've addressed, but we'll listen to it again. But I want to go to this next verse, detail that then we're going to let the song play out, finish this amazing jam and let it probably lay out for about two minutes there at the end. Let the whole thing play out.

And you will listen to it. You're going to enjoy it. You can cut it off. Then we'll come back, give our slaps, give our snaps, and give our everything else. You know, we'll do what we do. And just more evidence that she's heartbroken. This song was definitely birthed out of heartbreak, which as we've explored on this Diasic podcast,

has been actually the birth of a lot of excellent music. And not always the same kind of sound. We had a lot of good 90s R&B, probably like crazy rock that comes out of it, some like fuck yo ex hip-hop. And this is a different... I probably fuck a couple of motoms and then I'm through with it. That's to the homie.

And I knew it. There's those those that breakups. Yeah, there's a lot. Which again, that's a fuck that breakup. Like, why'd you have to go that for it? Yeah, yeah. Episode 7 ain't no fun if you want to reference that. We got a good catalog. Yeah, that's a breakup.

We got to throw more references. It's actually, half of it's a breakup song, actually. But this is a unique take on a breakup song type because this is just this very smooth, very happy song. It's a very happy, easygoing song that I think anybody that really just listens to, you throw on a pair of headphones, whatever you're doing, whether you're taking a hike, you're laying in your bed, staring at the sea. If you're walking along the beach, whatever it is, he's going to put you in a happy place,

which is, I think, a good, healthy way to go about a breakup song. So props Stevie, props fleet, props Mac. Now pull this one together. What kind of lyrics is she saying that, though? Now here I go again. I see the crystal vision. I keep my visions to myself. It's only me who wants to.

Wrap around your dreams and have you any dreams you'd like to sell. dreams of loneliness I don't think he's having dreams of loneliness though that's kind of where she puts her little she's hoping he has yeah she's hoping he feels lonely

there's definitely an element of this song I keep going back to that kind of like that Instagram post that girls like to do like when you see a girl post an Instagram post and it's like just a long like paragraph that like they found somewhere or something or even something they rode and there's like a lot of I'm in a great

place and I see things through Crystal Vision now and I wish you the best and all this but there's that little dig in there that you can just pull out of there when you kind of read between the lines and that's it right there for me. Oh yeah. Have your dreams you'd like to sell dreams of loneliness and it's like where are you getting the idea that his dreams are of loneliness? Is that something that you're just trying to put on the aura here that you're hoping like no no best of luck with your dreams. I hope you have everything you ever wanted all that loneliness that you're striving for I'm sure you'll I hope you have great dreams.

I hope you have great dreams. Great dreams of loneliness where you're lonely and cold. Look, I get you. The harsh reality is that's what comes out of breakup. Breakup suck. You have to kind of put on a facade like, no, this is all better for me and I'm like happy. But it hurts. I'm happier than I've ever been.

Like that you never hear somebody say they're happier than they've ever been than somebody that just broke up with somebody. Because they really feel like they need to like get that out there. They want to emphasize. Put out that energy. Yeah. But the fact is, yeah, that's the real right there. That last little dig.

You're actually kind of like really devastating. You want to put out a good energy that you're really happy. And, you know, and it's healthy to think that way. But then also there's that little bit of like, oh, no, but I hope you're happy with your loneliness. Yeah, absolutely. Enjoy that. Enjoy listening to your heartbeat at night. I'm sure you're going to enjoy it.

Yeah. And then metaphorically, um, oh, so I just want to say metaphorically. It's a good word. It's a good word. It would have been so easy for you to like put any back end of that sentence together. I still don't know what that word means. I got to be honest. You described it perfectly earlier and I wasn't paying attention.

You should probably start paying attention and stop texting when you're doing the Diasect DJ. In no way, did I text at all? Not this episode. Not this episode. Well, yeah. No, I know you know what again? I'm going to give props to Stevie on that. I don't think he could ignore Stevie for a text message right now.

I love Ms. Nix. I love the wood. I love Mac. You know, too often the wood has forgotten Fleetwood Mac. Let's give the wood some prop. Shout out to the wood. They're the connecting device.

Cyprus. Oak, cherry, maple. Okay, now you're just naming Woods, I don't know. Just let the beat ride again. That's a good track. It's a relaxing,

yet uptempo, yet sad, yet happy. I don't know. It's a soothing track. It's a... Just put you in the Zen-like vibe. I'm necessarily ready to party, but ready to move forward.

I mean, honestly, I know I already said it, but the best way I could think of to enjoy this track is just a peaceful skate along a nice sunlit sky with some orange Auburn flare overhead, maybe on a nice October.

evening, which is why I also wanted to push to make sure that we did dreams because I was hearing it come up again. And it's like my favorite month to listen to this track. So I made an emergency run to Studio Jag. Is that what we're calling it? Should point that out. The inland empire, everyone. Yeah. We stepped away from the castle. Fantastic house. Yeah, we stepped away from the Castle dungeon and I visited Studio Jag, which is the first episode actually to make its way from the dissect DJs. Because Castle does not come out here and I understand I always get it. Four hours away from society. It's not four but

you know, you get it. It's in the middle nowhere but give me some credits. Give me some, look at this studio. Our studio is dope. We got a basketball battle. You got a basketball arcade system that he won from the presses right and we're surrounded by like monitors and like screens and DJ booth. You got your

DJ turntables over there. No, the setup is dope. Yeah, this is why I wish we could just, I wish we could actually uproot this and bring it to the actual DJ. We feel like DJs in this motherfucker. This is the way we're supposed to feel, yeah. It's just like nine hours away from everything.

That's all. But this song, again, it's just one of those tracks that. Yeah, it just puts you in a great mode. But you know what, the more I was like listening to those lyrics, this definitely is that of a scorn woman. And shat and done the game. Props to Stevie, once again, she did it in such a peaceful Zen way. I can't think of any other way to put out your scorn.

So I'm definitely not saying this in a negative way. I'm just saying like it's there. Like, you definitely read. that like this song comes from a place of scorn but it's got to be the best way anybody's ever put scorn out there like yeah and geez does that do I feel at ease when I listen to this music yeah and metaphorically like scorn is

stop trying to make metaphorically happen it's clear that you for some reason don't understand basic English and it's okay like we can work past it if you want to keep shining a spotlight on it it would be good if you could at least finish a sentence with the word in Okay, could I just say this, that before we dissected this, the amazing, Dissecting DJs. Watch this. Dissected this song.

I thought it was actually about somebody asleep and dreaming. Could I never actually listen to the words whatsoever and were just dreams. Oh, must be about a person sleeping, have multiple dreams. That's how simplistic I think about things. If you're to judge a song by its title and nothing more, that's a reasonable thought. I always kind of thought it was more about, I haven't really thought about it, to be honest, but like I thought it was kind of more just about like weather in a desert, you know? You heard the thunder part just kind of ran with it?

That's the only line that deals with weather whatsoever. I made a trip back from the, I met a trip out to like Joshua Tree a couple years ago. And I like the whole drive back, I just like as I was like coming back with that desert sky. Yeah, no, I just like literally this song, I just kept playing like every like third song. I was like, dude, do you play it that many times? Dude, I didn't listen to like the injection. I probably listened to about five times on the drive back. But like, literally I just kept being like,

that's just the best song to listen to when you're driving back from the desert, man. I just play it again. He talks about thunder and rain. It just, yeah, it just got that perfect like driving back from the desert vibe. But can I bring up one more time that TikTok video that everybody,

let's dig into that one more time. So you know the video. This guy, you know, I guess his name is Dogface. He's like a popular tech talk or Instagram or something like that. I'm sure this video like took him next level. Because literally like one of those random videos where like,

it's not even like that super amazing video, but for whatever. reason it really taps into like the culture and like everybody sees it and shares it and like throws it around and everything like that my first reaction it's kind of similar to like my reaction to this song suddenly having a whole rebirth you know where i'm like yeah that's fucking dope man that's my initial reaction because the first time i saw the video i was like dude that's me right there that's me that's how i live live i just skate around have a good vibe drinking juice i don't necessarily i won't drink ocean spray from the bottle but if you switch that with a bottle of mango

juice that's just 100% me right there that's just how i live and i so i saw it and i was like yeah that's my vibe i love it and then it started getting shared everywhere and i was like should i have just taken a general video of how i live live here and then you know what i think about it it's like no but like if i had done it nobody would have a tattoo in the back of you got to have that like feather tattoo on the side of your head and and then also like it took me a while i realized like as he's skating he's straight crossing on to a fucking freeway And that was when I was like, okay, well, that is pretty badass. I like that, actually.

Wait, you got onto a freeway? He's straight casually entering a freeway ramp, and as he's doing it on a skateboard, he's straight singing Fleetwood Mac. So, like, when I realized that, I was like, all right, yeah, that dude's dope. That's my vibe next level. I trust me. Wait, he should go to jail then? No, not anymore.

He's two TikTok fames to do that now. Everybody would frilly again. If they arrested him for that video, that would be the biggest. like upheaval of all of this man wrote his skateboard onto an open freeway while drinking some ocean spray cranberry and singing a song and not

caring in the world that others are going 65 miles an hour around him well there was not too many other cars coming it's not like it was a prize disrespectful to my kids that I don't have like who does this guy I think he is

dude I had no idea that this man did this this guy's a piece of shit fuck this guy dude getting on the freeway don't you dare And now you make money because you did something illegal. Now everybody's going to do illegal bullshit. You're stupid. Should we just leave this whole discussion of the song on You're Stupid?

I mean, he is. Whoever, like, first of all, stupid to get a tattoo. He's like famous and rich now. I won't say it. Well, back of the head tattoo. I mean, that's not the smartest. Don't say it. It's not the smartest idea.

It's working out for him. If I had a back-ed tattoo and I had done the same thing that I always, always doing videotape myself i don't know maybe uh maybe i'd be dog face right now you know i guess there's probably some i guess there's a lot of richer people but it is with back fit head tattoos yeah bam bam bigelow and by the way i'll never fight a person with a back head tattoo i'm like wait do you have a back hit tattoo? shout out to anybody that knew the bam bam biglow reference all right shout out to anybody with a back hit tattoo yeah go ahead give yourself love one time let's go head and slap this one out though right while i'm feeling so at ease let's do some easy going slaps and

snaps what you got i did i just count five there's like four and like a bunch of snaps yeah it was rain dropping at the end it was snaps but in the form of rain drops it's pretty good and they cleaned to me so great song cleanse to you it's like i said it's an uptempo yet calm soothing song um just doesn't get the five because I don't know, I'm an asshole and don't want to give it to them. And because the TikTok thing brought it down a notch for you, right?

Actually. A little bit. You know what? You want to say it? You want to say it? It's time. I've done it in a while. That's not true, but let it out.

Get the fuck off the freeway. That's what I'm changing it to. I thought you're going to say something else. I know, but I didn't want to say it. I'm going to do it. All right. See you did. Fuck!

this guy get off the freeway disrespectful you're stupid all right give me your snaps and claps so I sound alone that probably sounded like the same rating that just you know my initial rating it sounded like four slaps and a bunch of snaps

but in the four range describe what you witnessed to the audience I can't see he had his hands both in the air as high as they could possibly extend and he was snapping all the way down to the snaps ran across his body.

Like I was raining snaps. It was a little awkward, to be honest with you to be around you for that. That was just the mood, right? There's something that Stevie does, that Fleetwood does. Really in this song, more so than any other Fleetwood Mac song. I'm not even going to try to pretend like, oh, Fleetwood Matt always does this to me. But like, that general vibe of the skating with a whole bottle of juice as you're fucking singing Fleetwood Mac been been being my vibe for a long time.

And now of a sudden it's kind of been put on blasts as like this thing that everybody else is doing. So there's a little touch of me that's like Everybody's kind of stealing my vibe And they're not even stealing it for me They're stealing it from this other guy But like you know what As long as the energy's out there I'm gonna be super stevie with it

And just be like I hope you enjoy your dreams Of loneliness And what you head And what's your hey Before we get out of here That's gonna say Shout out to Stevie next

You killed it Shout out to Stevie And fuck you dog face What the fuck I'm off the freeway, homie. Next!