Dissect DJs - Karate Kid (1984)

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

We're back with another epic throwback movie review as we dissect the 1984 cult classic - Karate Kid. We got 3 Things we gotta talk about in this dojo, as Ryan Castle, DJ JAG and Cam Murray break ...everything that goes down between Daniel San, Johnny Lawrence, Ali with an 'i', Mr. Miyagi, Cobra Kai, and of course the legendary Golf n' Stuff.Who was the real bully? Who was the MVP? Who was the 6th Man off the bench? What aged the best? What aged the worst? Was Mr. Miyagi really a guardian angel? Karate Kid is in the Dissect Zone NEXT!Listeners of this episode might also enjoy: 80s movies, Cobra Kai, Netflix, movie podcasts, Ralph Macchio, Billy Zabka, Elizabeth Shue, Pat Morita, John Kreese, Martin Kove, action movies, comedy, reaction podcast, 3 Things We Gotta Talk About, Dissect DJs, Spotify podcasts, throwback movies, video podcasts, classic movies, Joe Esposito - You're the Best.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:01:38 And doesn't that song just make you want to spar in a karate tournament? I feel like I could go like three rounds at Tung Sudo right now. Just makes me want to crane kick a fool. But today, I got a special throw. Showback movie review for y'all, which actually dates back to my previous podcast, the three things about podcast days, when we dissected this very movie. And the reason that I actually want to throw this back into the mix is very simple. Just saw a post today that said that it was on this day that the Karate Kid was first released into theaters 42 years ago. Way back in 1984.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Yeah, 42 years ago. of karate kid. And this actually is probably the longest throwbacks you all over here on the dissect DJs because we dissected this back in like, I don't know, 2021, 22, something like that. So when you listen to it, the audio is going to be of less quality
Starting point is 00:02:34 because this was back when we used to record on my old school mic in my garage. But, you know, once you get into it, it plays and take it like this. Imagine that you're just chilling in a back garage with a couple homies and y'all just watch Karate Kid. And now you just want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So you break it down three things we got to talk about style. Because that's exactly what it is. Just three guys in a garage talking Karate Kid. Except we had microphones there. And then, to cap it off, you give out some thingy awards. That's right. MVP, six men off the bench. Things that aged well, things that didn't age well, you know, stuff like that. And I do feel like Karate Kid since the time I actually recorded this episode.
Starting point is 00:03:19 has become such a more prominent piece of pop culture relevance because of the show of Cobra Kai, which I am a huge fan of. And there is a Cobra Kai piece of this that I wanted to discuss ahead of this episode because my fandom of Cobra Kai actually begins directly with the recording of this podcast. Cobra Guy had been out for a couple seasons, and I was aware of it, but I actually knew nothing about the show really at all. And we actually bring it up at the end of this episode when the conversation comes up of would karate kid work in today's modern day? And I'm like, well, it's been redone. They have like a series about it right now. And literally the day after I recorded, it popped up in front of me on like Netflix. Karate Kid was fresh in my head. I had just seen it. I had just talked all
Starting point is 00:04:03 about it in a garage with my homies. And I was like, there's no better time than now to dive back into the whole Karate Kid universe. So I literally started up this series the day after I recorded this podcast and immediately fell in love with the series. Have since seen all seven seasons, or however many they ended up doing. And I loved it. It was self-aware. It constantly referenced the original movie. It immediately dives right into the topic that we discuss in this very episode of which
Starting point is 00:04:29 one is the bully. It actually takes a walk through Johnny's life perspective, which is exactly what we discuss as we get into this, except for I will say the best thing about the series is Johnny Lawrence. He's so much more of a fun hang as an adult who's kind of been through some shit. Far more so than the Smarmie Rich kid who just does karate to like fuck with kids at school and bash his ex-girlfriend's boombox on the beach. But yeah, recording this podcast was a direct pipeline to get me into watching Cobra Kai. And it's been my favorite series, I'd say, over the
Starting point is 00:04:57 last few years. Because yeah, I don't watch a whole lot of streaming series. So if you're a fan of Kobe Kai and you're a fan of karate kid, I think you're going to dig this conversation right here. Alongside DJ Jag and Cameron Murray, who joined us on this episode, who actually used to live with both of us. So without further ado, let's get in to our throwback episode of Karate Kid. And then next week, we got a fresh new episode coming your way where we dissect a classic throwback dance jam from the 90s. You're going to love it and is going to make you move. But for now, let's go back to the 80s where we got a classic three things style review of the 1984 classic karate kid.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Oh, there's a lot of headnought going on in the room. I mean, it's just a great song. It's arguably the best montage song in the history of television, movie, and theater. Makes me want to kick something. It makes me want a sweep song. Like, maybe a leg, like, giant. Definitely that. Definitely an air drum song.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's got Cam hidden the air drums, like a maniac right now. And we're back. It's the three things we got to talk about. podcast and we got a squad today right now that's ready to be you know what we're ready to be the best around oh yeah i'm excited it's the karate kid ladies and gentlemen my trusty companion justino back in the building the newest member of the castle establishment over here down here with a castle dungeon making his first appearance is it cameron i'm worried to get up in this dude thank you guys i'm very excited to be here so we're going to kick it off with the 1984 classic karate kid
Starting point is 00:06:49 And real quick, I like to explain why. Obviously, it's a classic 80s time piece. But it was suggested by Justin, and I just want to throw out real quick, that one of the things I love about this guy is when he comes in super confident on a selection about something random. It's one of the things that makes him a great DJ, actually, because he'll just be reading the dance floor and be like, super freak. That's what time it is. Oh, when doves cry. Square biz. He throws on square biz real quick.
Starting point is 00:07:16 He gets it up there like, he throws it out of there real quick. Like, he knows exactly which one. in confident with it and he hit me up and he's like hey I think we should watch karate kid and then do a pot about it and he just came in hot with karate kid and I was just like absolutely and I haven't seen karate kids since I was a child so yeah so I didn't let I catch you up to do on this movie so the reason the reason castle I brought this up was because I had a conversation with Cameron actually yeah of which the argument he brought up it was something I never thought of because when you watch this movie it gears you towards thinking a very specific
Starting point is 00:07:48 thing. So with that said, I think it leads into thing number one. I think it does. Because the fact is, it does. We just all watched Karate Kid right now. We did. And you know what? We got some things we got to talk about.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Lots of things are going to talk about, guys. And it's all going to start once we toss it up to the rundown. And that, of course, it's going to bring us to thing number one. Number one. Number one. Who was the real bully in Karate Kid?
Starting point is 00:08:25 Listen, I'm passionate about this guys. Go ahead. Hit a camera. I mean, I grew up just like the rest of us. I mean, I feel like Karate Kid was one of the biggest movies of our childhood. I mean, we all, you know, wanted to be Daniel's son on the karate mat. And, I mean, I did Taekwondo for five years. So, you know, it was just deep in me to, you know, I love the movie. But I watched a three-minute clip on YouTube kind of describing him as the villain.
Starting point is 00:08:49 and I re-watched the movie and I mean you see it just from the very start So who's the real, who's the bully? Danielson. Danielson's the bully. Danielson. Why? I mean, for a list of reasons. Let's start at the very beginning of the movie.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's a great place to start. Usually. Why was he there? Why did they move city? He and his mom, I don't think it's explained but the movie begins with them leaving New York, him and his mom, they drive all the way across the country. And 17 kids running after the car.
Starting point is 00:09:18 It's like, why are you lazy? like with that said there's a very depressing leave to wherever you're leaving they don't see New York or New Jersey I'm guessing it's somewhere in the East Coast but he literally has his friends running after their Volkswagen
Starting point is 00:09:33 with his bike on the top of it with which they're going to drive across the country 17 kids going Dale no come back and they didn't just drive off like what a depressing scene to I mean I got to say that would make me feel beloved that doesn't actually happen like
Starting point is 00:09:49 Kids don't actually run after you the whole car. But I think it's because I think he was getting in trouble. I think he was, all those kids loved him because he was a badass little kid in New York wherever he was from. All right, so that goes in. He's a disgruntled youth. They have to move across the country because he's messing up in school, probably getting in fights, just like he did at the regular school. I mean, from the jump. You're right.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Let's look at Johnny. Let's just talk about Johnny for just a second. All right, I will. Johnny starts, he is an accomplished martial artist. He's been doing his entire life. He's clearly skilled. He's been a degenerate, you know. Everyone loves a comeback story, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Johnny was a troubled youth. You know, he was a bully growing up, but it was a senior year. He was ready to turn things around. Yeah. He even said, he was like, whoa, an ex-degenerate. I'm not a degenerate anymore. Whoa, I don't get in fights anymore. I'll pick out.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Hey, I'm cool. You guys are all, all his friends were hot heads, but he was cool about everything. while everyone was starting to fight for that juiced out weird blonde dude was trying to fight people? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What was Johnny doing? Meet head mac in the group over there.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Johnny's hanging out back. He was a little bit crazy. Yo, I'm saying. So his friends were conversational. And we all know who that guy ends up being in life. We've seen the guy who intentionally bumps somebody at the bar and they're like, yo, what's up?
Starting point is 00:11:08 And he's like, do! And he immediately turns up from like 10 to 100. Head bust somebody? Yeah, just like, whoa, yo, you want to fuck with this right now? You know how crazy you? You don't get me? Like, that guy, that's where that guy's going. He's definitely that guy the group.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It's very true. So let's just go straight to it. The first altercation. Yeah. So after Danielson's been weirdly like stalking his girlfriend and staring at her for a while, it's really awkward. It's like flirting, I guess, as a kid that were staring at each other. Yeah. He was like, staring at this dude's girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:11:39 The first altercation, you know, Johnny was kind of being a dick about the radio thing, whatever. But he comes up and Danielson immediately gets mad and he starts to fight. And what does Johnny do? What does Johnny do? What does he do? I'm sorry. All he does is trip him. Danielson attacks, he trips him.
Starting point is 00:11:54 He's like, I'm a Marshaugh's master. He's like, I don't mess with this. He comes back, does it again. Realizes Danielson didn't get a stop when he finally gives him a front cake. Bam, dude, back up. And then when he goes over to check on him, he's like, yo, I'm sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:12:08 That was mean. He went down to reach and help him up, and Danielson's sucker punches it. I'll give you that. Are you kidding me? Yo, are you kidding me? You're missing a lot, but go ahead. Okay, wait, real quick, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I'm just saying. Okay. All right, let's, let's go. First of all, Annie with an eye and Johnny were broken up. Allie. Allie with an eye. Which, by the way, I got to say, when he asked her a name and she said, Allie with an eye, that's my kind of shit right there.
Starting point is 00:12:36 That kind of thing gets me right there. That's flirting. That's one of those, like, intelligent little flirt notes. And then he said Daniel with an L. what do you think about that comeback? That's a great comeback, actually. Is it? It's clever.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Did she laugh at it? Did she laugh at it? You know what? It worked. That's my kind of style right there. That's my kind of line. I'm with Daniel. First of all, they had never seen each other. They're at the beach with a random group of people that they never see each other. And then he sees her like, oh, hold up.
Starting point is 00:12:59 She's looking good. Sees her at the beach. kicking a ball, play soccer. He sees her. They go all the way to the night of which there's fires now happening. Yeah. Now they're looking at each other. Like his first day in town.
Starting point is 00:13:11 By the way, can we go back to the days where we hang out, play football all day, then have bonfires at the beach and like that sounds like a great experience we should do it we do we said bombfires of the bar yeah that's at the bar there's a beach right here there's a beach right there's a beach
Starting point is 00:13:27 upstairs all right so they have a bobfire he finally introduces they meet each other after he stares out for like eight hours yeah but there's a back and forth there was a long stare for a while that was just a little don't spend some game why you
Starting point is 00:13:41 he took a while what you're scared this is what this is exactly what just one was saying as they're watching he's like they haven't talked yet It's not like there was a bunch of people It was like a group of like five dudes and like three girls The whole day into the night They were just both kind of like
Starting point is 00:13:57 Oh like look at her Look at him And then he throws a soccer What about it throws a soccer ball He's home dude kicks a soccer ball at him Which the hottest girl in the group goes Oh And then they start talking
Starting point is 00:14:09 And now dad Not only that She comes in with And this is something I've noted from 80s movies The hot girl in the group never in real life just approaches with all the pieces you need she's just literally like oh i think this is your soccer ball how do you juggle can you show me can you teach me she just like gives him all the tools to like start working on game the popular girls is immediately and yeah and
Starting point is 00:14:31 it just happens to be like the hottest girl there and everything like that and it just like falls and he's just like yeah well i just do this and i yeah so okay of which now johnny and his boys roll up in motorcycles on the beach all the johnny and his boys Making them awesome Yeah, gangster as hell Sounds really cool I'm trying to hang out with these kids Which by the way, they're all white
Starting point is 00:14:54 Except for one guy I think we'll get there We'll get to that point Yeah yeah Which is right as a more as like us too That'll be his 80s Yeah yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah Well, Alex Which doesn't age well in this movie So So they roll up in motorcycles Johnny decides to turn off Allie Allie with an eye
Starting point is 00:15:14 She turned off her radio Of which she turns it on And says, leave me alone He turns it back on She turns it back off He turns it back on She turns it back off He then picks up the radio
Starting point is 00:15:25 And destroys Grunk spikes that shit He doesn't destroy it Not he grunks spiked it He tried to And slams it down to the ground Cameron It's sand
Starting point is 00:15:36 And you know how bulletproof Those boom boxes used to be In the 80s We all used to have those boom boxes They were Disrupted And that shit would get They were stainless still.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I can kind of back him up because, and this is a true story, I was on a date one time. And, you know, Johnny was just trying to flirt. I was on a date. I was trying to flirt. We are Dave and Busters. We were picking out prizes and there was like a whole entire bin full of footballs. And I just started like tossing about her to get her to catch one. And she just wouldn't catch it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And I just kept throwing balls. And I thought it was really cute. I was flirting. But it just was not flirting. But I just think Johnny was flirting. I don't know. He was an aggressive. I think he gotta got a little carry away.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'll give it to this. They are the high school kids, so there's a good chance that the line between being a dumb meathead and flirting is thin at that age. It is. He's 16, 17. Yeah. The radio actually does survive this first slam. It does. Daniel's son comes and picks it up.
Starting point is 00:16:32 He's like, you shouldn't be slammy at least radio or whatever. Yeah. Of which Johnny decides to at this point, he gets him on the ground. Of which your sucker punch does happen. Because he goes to help him, and he goes, and he hits him to the face. At that point, they were fully on, like, fight mode. Like, he was, like, standing in front of him. He was, like, Danielson snapped, and he tried to attack him,
Starting point is 00:16:55 and he was like, what? And he was stab out of the way and trip him. No, man, the radio. That's exactly what happened. On the radio. I'm going to just say this. I had heard this theory. This has been, like, a popular theory I've seen around there.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think I've actually seen the exact same video of referring to. That was, like, Danielson is actually the bully here. So I came into the movie, ready to make that our, too. So I watched very closely the whole scene and everything. That scene really kind of encompasses the whole like argument as to who's the bully. And I gotta be honest dude, Johnny's the dick in that scene.
Starting point is 00:17:24 He's not. A redeemable asshole, dude. After this all happens, Cameron, they get all their motorcycles and decide to ride their motorcycles over the radio. Johnny hits the radio again just to make sure that he fucks the radio up.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You can't get no, Johnny. Put dirt on Daniel, who's now his face into the dirt, put dirt on it with his war. And then, and then he has to go to school with these kids, and they are just a nonstop fuck troupe for the next, like, two months. Like, in all the foreseeable future, every time they see him. Because his friends that he originally had, stopped hanging out with him the moment he got his ass kicked. The moment he got his ass kicked. There's this amazing scene. It's very, like, almost.
Starting point is 00:18:13 missable, but it just had me cracking up. When Daniel wants to, like, join a karate club, he walks in the Cobur Kai, and then he sees Johnny, and he's like, oh, this fucking guy again, and he leaves, and then he goes and has lunch with his mom. And there's just this random scene, nothing particular about it, but him and his
Starting point is 00:18:29 mom are just having lunch in the diner, and then the Cobur Kai are, like, getting out of the class, and just in the background. It's very small, but they just kind of like start looking, and they're pointing, and they run over, and they get Johnny back, and then they're like, oh, there are he. is and then they all walk away
Starting point is 00:18:45 and that's it like it doesn't blame to anything dude it's just like them like local like cobra kai ends up being everywhere in this movie everywhere they go and I pointed that out to Justin as we're watching he's like oh it's a small town and I'm like it's a Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:19:00 dude it's like the biggest town in the country and everywhere Daniel goes Cobur Kai is just kind of there like Johnny's just there they go to Halloween party well hold on golf and stuff there everywhere they go they're just encountered anywhere he's hanging out in school
Starting point is 00:19:18 they're just in the same vicinity like yeah you can't avoid these guys but you brought up a good point so after the fight the first thing Danielson does is go to the same dojo as him he's like no I'm gonna fight now I want to learn how to fight you are you kidding he didn't know it was so he just got to a fight and went and bought a gun like are you kidding he didn't know he wanted to learn karate
Starting point is 00:19:38 that's ridiculous he didn't know protect yourself he's what to protect himself so go to one of the many thousands of dojoes in the greater hell of years. No, he doesn't know it's so he walks in there. It's Coburkeye! He doesn't know that he's part of Cobbri-Ri. He's still like brand new. And then he sees jackets, they have headbands.
Starting point is 00:19:55 What are you talking? Let's go to the point where, you know, they've been fighting. There's the confrontation between Coburkeye's leader that weird steroid guy that keeps telling them. Yeah, me head, Mac. Oh wait, you're talking about the instructor. The instructor. The instructor. Crease.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yes, I looked up his name. So there's the... Which is weird, because his name's never actually said in the movie. It's just one of those things where, like, the director knew his name, and he wrote it into the part. So it's, like, in the script, Creece says this, but I don't ever think they... They actually like to himself. Yeah, I don't think so. It's a great name.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I don't know. It is a cool thing. Yeah, it's possible I just missed it. I don't know. But, yeah, I was paying pretty close attention just now. But let's kind of skip to the point where he tells all the Copacca, say, hey, don't mess with Daniel. You know, it's hands off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:42 What does Daniel do? he antagonizes them from the jump the next day he goes hey watch this oh after he caused that big car accident and all those kids
Starting point is 00:20:52 everyone's all busted up he caused he caused that after he sprayed water out of it yo he caused a multi-car pile of thousands of dollars of the damage goes I noticed and then he runs away and gets away with this shit
Starting point is 00:21:04 and then and then the next day he's like antagonizing these kids oh don't run in front of the bus next time I just I'm a psychopath he does he does that is a good good point because like up until that point he starts taking the approach of like oh my way of dealing with is I'm gonna run away and even at a certain point Ali's like hey don't you don't either run away
Starting point is 00:21:24 he's like hey I got my way in dealing things you got yours get off my back about it like he turns into like the Italian stereotype day he literally says like get off my back about it and then then that happens there's like the little meeting between Miyagi and crease the cobra kai master He's like, hey, don't mess with him in school. And you're right. Then Daniel gets this bravado about him. It's just like, hey, watch this. I could just walk in front of him right now.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, he does do that. But again, I got to point to the fact that we're talking about like 16, 17-year-olds who don't necessarily know how to deal with these kind of things that are just like, oh, now I got some comfort. Watch me just take advantage of it. Nobody's perfect at this movie. Like, there's definitely like faults from every character, I could definitely say. That's definitely something I would say.
Starting point is 00:22:09 But that's life. That's life. Let's take to the end real quick. and how... Wait, wait, hold on, I got one more point. Oh, yeah. What about the point at the Halloween party? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:18 When Johnny is in the stall rolling a J, he is rolling a dooby, and Danielson comes and pours water on it? Are you doing? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before he pours water on him, can we just say that Danielson had one of the most epic Halloween costumes you could ever put her in. That's Halloween costumes.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I mean, let's be honest, it's simple. To this day. And it's... And it's just... The ice... The isolation technique alone. Just walking around as a shower. Walk around as a closed shower.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Oh, you want to come with a shower? Super cumbersome. Like, that would not be an easy way to make... But everybody's noticing you, though. I would definitely try to see how many girls I'd get in that shower. That's the thing. The ability to, like, just close the curtain off, like, oh, no, no, it's a shower party.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Oh, like, yeah, it's actually a genius costume. The only thing is Daniel, he needs to go all out. He's got like a football jersey underneath it. Yeah. Like it doesn't make sense. You gotta go like rubber duckie. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Like a shower thing. Put a towel around you. Put a towel around you wear like a shower cat. Go on robe. Just go robe. Or be naked in there like, you know, with like a shower. Exactly. So back to what camera was saying.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So first of all, who pours water on somebody this one's joint? The guy I- At that point. He looked over and saw exactly what he was doing. Okay. And I'll tell you. Yo, Jay. Again, I was watching this movie from the respective looking for who's bullying who.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And at that point, think about this, he starts the new school. When does school start? Like late August, September. Halloween, October 31st, that's when Halloween is. At that point in the movie, every scene was just him encountering Cobra Kai. From the beginning of the time when Johnny saw him talking to Allie with an eye. Hittianist's girlfriend. That was his ex.
Starting point is 00:24:04 She claims his ex, right from the get-go. And she came up to Daniel. And she initiated it. At that point, all Daniel knows is, I just, came to this new area. I've been hanging out of the beach all day. The hot girl in the group is totally viving with me. And then his whole team shows up in a motorcycle. Breaks the radio and music for the night. Breaks the radio. Clearly establishes himself as the asshole. I'm gonna suck a punch the fuck
Starting point is 00:24:23 out of that bitch. Yeah. And then and then every time he went to school or anywhere around there, they were jumping his ass. He... For eight weeks. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. And then he sees, holy shit, I got this full in a stall. And there's a hose right here. Like, yeah, I'm gonna take my shot real quick. Okay. So, instead of just, you know, not talking to the one girl
Starting point is 00:24:43 is getting his ass kicked every day. He continues to do it. He's a sociopath. He's a sociopath. The highest girl's skills come up to me. You want me to stop because you... Because her ex is a psycho. Go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:57 If the hottest girl in school is hitting on you, then any other girl in high school will probably like you too because high school's a little chamber of weirdness. If the hottest girl likes you, then everyone's going to. Number one wants me. Yeah, why do I got to back up just because the X is being an asshole.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Because you're getting your ass kicked and he is literally. Okay, well, fight it back and be like, he finds a hose over his fucking thing. He finds a way around it, dude, he finds it. Hose on a J. Hose on a J. I'm doing it's all I'm doing. And the ultimate thing that he finds that ends up working to his favor is that he discovers that his landlord. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The soup.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Oh, yeah, that's the way. Mr. Miyagi. All right, there's one more before. There's got to be, because I know what to the segue is going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel a segment coming, right? There's got to be one thing that I say. The biggest thing, the biggest farce of the whole movie in Y. Danielson is absolutely the antagonist.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Is, did anyone see how the scoring was at the last match? Are you kidding me? All right. He got his assholes. All right, we're going to get to that later. Is that something else? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. I will address that later.
Starting point is 00:26:02 That's ridiculous. That's a good, that's a good, that's a good. Ridicrous. It's good set up. We'll get to the scoring later because that's definitely a nitpick that needs to be. very much discussed. But the thing that actually saves Daniel as he's getting his ass
Starting point is 00:26:15 kicked by Cobra Kai for the first several months is he finally learns that the guy who owns his complex who's like the soup and like fixes everything. The guy that apparently fixes everything but the pool is not fixed and when they first moved in the first thing they realized was
Starting point is 00:26:31 the sink doesn't work. So that alone, before we even get to thing number two, I would like to just point out Mr. Miyagi, very shitty landlord. Like he's a shitty attended. He's not a good head man for your place. Yeah. The pool doesn't work. The pool doesn't have water
Starting point is 00:26:46 in. Before you move in, your sink doesn't work. Yeah. Missy Miyagi, do your fucking work. Then he goes to ask him. Stop cutting trees. The first scene you see. Trying to get flies. Yeah, the first scene that we meet Miyagi, Daniel's trying to ask on behalf of his mom like, hey, the sink doesn't work. You're going to fix it. And he's just sitting there with his chopsticks trying to catch a fly. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:27:06 yeah, I get to it. And he's like, okay, cool, when are you going to get to? He's like, uh, after I'm done. And he's like, after you've done what? He's like, yeah. And he just keeps trying to catch a fly. Like, at that point right there, if I'm moving in a new place, I'm like, I think my landlord sucks. Which leads us into thing number two.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Thing number two. Number two. Mr. Miyagi, who are you? Mr. No, no. Think number two, we got to be, did Mr. Miyagi's training, would that actually work? Would that actually make you a karate master? Thing number two. I mean, I just said thing number two.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I know. I just want to have it. I like you said. Oh. Out there to do. Would Mr. Miyagi's training actually work to make you a karate master? Like all of it. So you're talking about his laziness.
Starting point is 00:27:58 So basically... Lasiness as a handyman. Yeah. His ability to make Daniel's son do all the chores of his house and then make that seem like it's part of his workout of his training. Do you remember when he beat up all the Kobri-Kai kids?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yes, I do. Okay, and honestly, let's just say this. The scene where Miyagi beats up all the cobra Kai to save Danielson is honestly the only redeeming scene of the entire movie that allows Miyaki
Starting point is 00:28:28 to kind of do all his shit-back behavior. Like, we start by seeing kind of a shitty landlord doesn't really take care of his place very well. he has people move into us place that doesn't have a working sink the pool the pool doesn't have water in a whole complex like how hard is that heavy man like yeah it's summer it was hot it is summer it was clearly how hard would it be just
Starting point is 00:28:54 just take a hose to it for like a whole day whatever that's all you had to do that's all you had to do and he's just very lazy well it's a little bit more complicated than that so then so then he basically up until that point, he seems kind of worthless, you know, and like he has a few interactions to Daniel, including him seeing Daniel as he walks in to fix the sink. He's like working his karate and he's like, oh, you're learning karate out of a book? And he's like, yeah, yeah. And he's like, really working his ass off. And he says it doesn't do anything about it. Then he ends up saving him. So that's the redeeming scene that he has, that one scene, right? When he beats up children, what are we talking about? They were about to five, Daniel. Five, five. Five on one.
Starting point is 00:29:33 who have been training and are like really legitimate training like in their scene that they like that he has him going those boys are all like he's a yeah yeah yeah yeah those guys are disciplined I will I'll give it to him that he's an old guy but first of all you can't beat up kids like I don't care how many kids are all I'm gonna beat the shit everyone masked on how is he supposed to know what age they were well here's a thing attacking the man that he because they're kids they were fucking with Danielson what are they a bunch of adults messing with a kid and it's Well, it's established earlier that Miyagi hears all. Like, there's a bunch of scenes earlier where, like, they have conversation,
Starting point is 00:30:10 and then Miyagi just kind of walks out and just, like, looks like, he walks out, like, okay. Daniel's son is being harassed at school. Okay. So, outside of that scene where he fucks them all up, then, Daniel's like, I didn't know you knew karate. And he's like, well, you never asked. It's like, well, that's not a question you ask people, though. The book of him trying to learn karate for him. from a book, why would you be like,
Starting point is 00:30:35 yo, I can hook you up. Yo, by the way, I'm a karate master, actually. No, he didn't bring it up then. Then he offers to train Daniel, cut to then him doing a month worth, which is, by the way, the longest part of the movie. There's like an hour straight of just him training Daniel via him fixing shit in his house.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Let's start with the beginning. He washes cars with wax on, wax off. Wax on, wax off. Then he goes to the floors of... Hasn't like shaved down the floors or whatever. that is like wagging on the floor and then he goes paint the fence open down open down paint the fence and the last one paint the house left to right yeah and at this point if I'm Daniel rightfully so he's just
Starting point is 00:31:16 getting pissed because I'm like okay I think I'm the time he's done he's just using me now as like a like a free way to get his house and shit in order like that's all this is like he's freaking out so then of course it turns out that very legendary probably possibly the most legendary thing about the movie that's like stood the dust of time is that he was training him to do karate without actually teaching him how to do karate but here's my question
Starting point is 00:31:41 wouldn't it have just been easier to teach him that shit in karate like he wouldn't have got his house painted maybe but like you could have just hey just keep doing up down like you could have just trained him and that he was hungry it's not like you need to trick him to learn karate he wanted to learn this shit
Starting point is 00:31:56 would he have gotten this house painted no no no that's what he had his house he saw it as a way to look he was got in his wood to read done. We have got cars washed. I don't think so. No, he found a way to loophole all the shit he needs to get done around the house. Do you think Mr. Miyagi's old ass was going to do
Starting point is 00:32:11 all that stuff? No chance. Absolutely. No, no. You figured out. I mean. Especially his drunk ass who was he was drunk throughout the entire movie. And then it was like, drunk about his wife and was like, uh-huh. And just doing crazy shit. There was a scene of that movie.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yeah. Where Missy Miyagi is an absolute alcoholic drunk. And you're just like, and Daniel son is 16 and a half like, what is Mr. Miyagi doing over here? Why am I hanging out with this old ass man? That's my only friend. That brings me to this question. Why is Mr. Miyagi Daniel's only friend?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, he is a very sociable guy. We didn't actually answer the last question. What was the last one? Oh, if it would work. And I do think all of those things would be effective. I'm a pop-winter football coach. And, I mean, we spend, like, maybe, there's a two-hour practice. We spend 20 to 30 minutes running play.
Starting point is 00:33:03 the rest of it is just working on technique getting their knees high you know getting them to run through stuff you know getting getting their bodies more athletic and essentially when he was doing all that wax on wax awesome I mean we even if you painted a house shit's that shit sucks like it's gonna make you stronger you know when you block somebody you know and then when he did start teaching him the actual karate's hide of it you're telling me it seemed like it was like four minutes of it like so Cameron said like two minutes of actual karate training Cameron is saying that Smiaghi's techniques work.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Of course. I mean, it's how anyone trains children. You don't train kids by going to run this play. You train him by getting their knees up, getting their agility good. So when you tell them to do something, they're better at it. Let me ask you this. As a Pop Warner coach, one of your kids is on the field. He's running.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Out of nowhere. He hurts his leg. Okay. Will you then run onto the field and go and put your hands on whatever he just injured? And that it will be completely healed. According to Mr. Miyagi, this is a completely perfect. And you just said that Mr. Miyagi's techniques work. First of all, it depends on what kid it is.
Starting point is 00:34:17 If it's like my starting running back or my quarterback and be like, you're healed, young man, get in the game, you know? Like just like a placebo, just like get in their head. Well, that's what I think Mr. Miyagi was doing. Like, oh, you're good now. This brings me to my theory. Children are very easy to be manipulated, by the way. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But here's a little thing. I have. Was Mr. Miyagi just like his magic guardian angel the whole time? When you think about the way that he's able to just do like multiple times in the movie he does this thing, the end of the movie when he's like got a serious knee injury
Starting point is 00:34:51 and they're like, oh no, he's out of the competition. He like broke his leg. And then all they show is Miyagi do one of these and they don't even show him to touch him and then like the next scene he's like, no, no, no, Daniel's good, he's good to go. So apparently Miyagi has this magic touch and he also happens to be there. Every time Daniel has a conversation that needs to be overheard, he just pops out.
Starting point is 00:35:10 True. And he just always, he's there when he saves him, when he's getting chased down by five kids in skeleton costumes, who's there to rescue him? But that's the only part that kind of messes it up because Mr. Miyagi actually beats his shit out. No, no, no, he exists. He's not like invincible.
Starting point is 00:35:24 He exists, but he exists as his guardian angel because literally when you think about it, this kid's basically getting like the worst other than meeting the hot new girl named Allie with an eye. Everything is going bad for him that he's getting attacked by these Cobra Kai everywhere he goes. And then the one thing that's rescuing him is he has this guardian angel random guy who sucks as the soup of the building.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Terrible maintenance man, gosh. But he just happens to be a karate master who's everywhere that has saves him. He has all the oil. He has all the oil. Can we just give him credit for giving Daniel son a fantastic, yellow whatever the hell car he gave you literally says pick one he says what is mr. miagi's do that he has like six cars by the way danielsen picks the first car there was a black car about three or four cars down there i looked at i was like shiny oh that the fourth one is
Starting point is 00:36:19 where i wouldn't pick the yellow one either the yellow was that where you want to go no he was trying to be like that's i don't know he's daniel son i don't know what he's daniel son but and then with mr biagi it all it is also disappointing to state that the actor what What is his name? Pat Marito. Pat Marito. Also used to play Arnold. Unhappy Days.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Oh, yeah. Has no idea anything about martial arts or karate. Based on our half-ass internet research. We did about five minutes of research. And from that research, this man does not know karate. He just looks like a dude who can fucking hang out. He's an actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, well, whatever, man. I thought this man was number one karate other than Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee. It was in fucking Mr. Biassie. That's what it is. And then after that, it was. Jackie Chair No, no, no, it was the turtles. What is Charlie Stirls?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Ninja Turtles? The Troolers was the rat. Splinter. Splinter. There were four Splinter. Honestly, I think Splinter, I never actually thought about it, but he was basically like a rehash of Mr. Miyagi. Like, he was just like, Mr. Miyagi and rat form.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And he was like, that was like who he was built after, you know, like this wise old man. And the thing is, we looked at. With, by the way, Donatello. Don't, I just kidding. I'm trying to go. You don't have a Donatello point? That was actually in this. But Amosvenner.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's going to David Turtles. But no. It's real out of nowhere. What we realize in watching this is the amount of actual wisdom that Miyagi shares compared to like the chaos that just comes out of his mouth that means nothing is not the ratio you want. They keep bringing in that like kind of Japanese flute that's just like, loo-woo. Like you think you're just hearing wisdom.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It makes a good point. Yeah. The flute comes in. But like he says a lot of things. things that don't really make sense. And then when he gets hammered and he's, by the way, encouraging, he keeps telling Daniel like, oh, you're checking some more. So he's trying to get a 16-year-old hammered with him in his little, like, dojo thing.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Well... Which brings me to a point. Where is Danielson's mom while he's hanging out with this old man? She disappears, like, halfway through the movie, actually. She's like... She's making it work. She's out of the pin for the bicycle. She's actually, like, the coolest mom ever.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Like, she's actually awesome. We'll get to her as well. Between his crazy advice that doesn't work and like when he gets hammered and he just starts walking around. Okay, also, when he does, every time he tells him I do wax on and wax off, he walks away back to the house with Daniel's back to him and he just continues going, wax on, wax on, wax off, wax on. But like nobody's looking at that point. That's just his mind.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And at this point, Daniel doesn't know he's teaching him karate with it. Like, you got to be thinking, I think the guy that I'm kind of working for right now is insane. He's like hypnotizing. Yeah. And then when he gets hammered, he starts, like, shouting random shit about Germany. Like, oh, Germans, blah, blah, blah. And he sees, like, I think newspaper clippings or something that shows that he was, like, part of the war or something. So, like, World War II reference.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, so at that point, you start thinking, like, yo. Well, Mr. Miyagi's wife died in an interment cap. Which he learned. She was pregnant and she died in it. Like in American internment camp? American internment camp. Which, oh, my God. He learned.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And she was pregnant, and he learned that through a letter that was given to him by the United States. No, because he was holding it as he passed out drunk. Was he in the war? Yeah, that's what the word is. Was he fighting for America? Yeah. Yeah, because it's funny. This is one of the questions I have to have yet.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Is that did Miyagi as the angel, as this guardian angel, set up everything around him so Daniel could learn about him without asking? Because in one moment, he passes out drunk. he's holding after he was just looking at a picture of his wife and he's like oh who's that oh is that your wife oh okay then he passes out holds a note pulls it out of his hand then he reads that that's what that note says which is why is he even like holding a note that says when his wife and his child died that's weird
Starting point is 00:40:17 then he looks right next to the bed and there's like a purple heart of like his time in the war so like did miaki just set everything up around him to be like this is how you learn about like that's very guardian angel shit is all I'm saying And with that, why couldn't he fix the pool during the summer in California? Why the fuck was the pool? The pool was completely dirty in California. It didn't even have any water.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It was like a dirty pot. It was very disappointing. I feel like he could have consolidated some of those oil cans. BetMGM is an official sports betting partner of the National Hockey League and has everything for the action on and off the ice. Hockey fans in Canada can place live bets, create same game parlays, take player props, their favorite skaters and get an early jump on the 2026-27 season with futures on the 2027 Stanley Cup champion.
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Starting point is 00:41:59 Right next to a railroad track And it's like gotta be like where he's getting his money from Because it sure is not as being a... Maybe that Maybe he's collecting Oil out of one of those little things With all those cans That's what he was doing
Starting point is 00:42:12 Instead of getting a 55 gallon drum Yeah Like a human being He's using these little gallon drum thing Yeah Like 150 It looked like Ryus level And street fighters
Starting point is 00:42:25 One of those pumps Pumping a little wherever he was and the house was right next to it was number three all right uh i mean i think i don't know we can't want to definite answer dude okay let's just do just do one word summary do you think mr miagi's training of painting and waxing was effective yes yes but not the the hand thing that was my thing is just uh could he not have just trained him first with the moves and then said now do this to work on it? No. And if Daniel
Starting point is 00:42:59 knew, because, like, look, we don't know this. That's not how it's going to help you block. Yeah. So do this. Now, this is all the way around the thing. He wanted to get good. He wanted to get good at it. You wrestled. You wrestled. You wrestled. Yes, I wrestled. So, is the first thing when you got to wrestling practice, did you guys just start
Starting point is 00:43:15 sparring and start working on moves, or did you start conditioning and start working on your technique? Yeah, but if I need, the conditioning was for my wrestling and not for helping the coach's house to get painted. I would be like more I would make sure my technique is more right. If I'm like, okay, this is a good practice
Starting point is 00:43:33 for it. By the way, you could also paint. At that point, he's got to know that Daniel's thinking, I'm just getting you to fuck with my house. You told me this is going to help me do this better. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm going to make sure that I'm practicing. I would have been way mad. You didn't have to keep it a secret. I would have
Starting point is 00:43:49 a half-ass, but painting of the wall and everything. I would have done a half-ass. For sure. Be like, this guy is making me do his house. Fuck this guy. However, I- But if he tells me, this is going to strengthen you to be able to block all moves this way. I'm paying the shit out of the house. But there is that moment where he snaps and he's like, why the hell am I doing on your chores?
Starting point is 00:44:07 And then he goes, like, wax on, wax off. And I will say this. And he's- And he's- And he's-heases him. Look, shut the hell up. I know what I'm doing. So this is one of those moments where you got to decipher reality from the movie.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Because the fact is, for the movie's sake, there's that realization that, like, no, I've been training you without actually letting you know I've been training you. That's what's made Mr. Miyagi a legend. But even when we start, so we start a few months before we even get pads and stuff like that, so we're doing conditioning and stuff. That's right now. Those kids are pissed. They're like, oh, I don't want to do this. I don't want to play football.
Starting point is 00:44:40 We're not even, everyone's running plays and we're not even in pads. I'm like, shut up. It's fundamentals. Like, I'm an adult. I'm a coach. You guys are children. You don't know what you're talking about. So I think you've got to start with the fundamentals.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah. You got to start with the fundamentals. I think that brings us to number three. So when it comes to thing number three of three things about this movie, I would like to introduce a little awards concept where we're going to give out some awards for some of the more memorable characters and moments of these films. And we shall call these awards the thingies. Ooh, the thingies. Let's give out some thingies. Let's give out a thingy or two.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yes. Let's do it. Okay, so I got a couple of go-to awards that we're going to go. And the first one is going to be called the LeBron Award. And that one simply is the real MVP. The Ruby of the Karate Kid. Of Karate Kid. Because, like, let's think about it.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Like, LeBron, he could win MVP every year. But sometimes they give it to the flashy newcomer, the guy who's the new story. But when it comes down to the grit and the grind of the story, who was the MVP of Karate Kid? Mr. Miyagi. Okay, I like it. Mr. Miyagi? I like it. I mean, he's soft-spoken.
Starting point is 00:45:59 When he did a step up, he beat the shit out of the bunch of kids. He's not afraid to beat up a kid. He is sad commitment. He's distributing his knowledge. He's giving out cars. He's making motherfuckers do his house chores. And my whole thing is, he was super stoic when he needed to be, like, during the fights and stuff. He never said anything.
Starting point is 00:46:18 He was just like, looks straight. He just looks straight. And then the camera look at him, and then dangerous stuff. He'd be like, well, Mr. Biagi seems like he's chill about this. That's where it is, because it really kind of put karate in the map, and it was partly because Miyagi made look, karate looks so cool. He never panicked at any point, even when there was a group of kids around and he was fucking him up and everything. Like, yeah, he was fucking up kids. Like, you just got the idea like, okay, this is what karate could be right here.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Even though the actual actor had no idea what karate was. What a great actor? Let me explain why that was good, because when you watched Miyagi, he made me. karate looks so cool. It worked better than having a guy who was a karate master. Like that guy didn't need to know it. They taught him a couple moves to like fuck up the cobra kite. That's all he did the whole rest of the movie, he looked chill as fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And he was just like spoke softly. And he always just looked like he knew what the fuck he was doing. He always on top of it. He cut bonsai trees and shit, except for when he just actually got fucked up and was ranting about Germany. That was a bad luck. Although he did try to catch flies for all his life, and then Danielson came in for about 10 seconds and snagged one.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And he didn't even give him props about it. He didn't even give him props and walked away. He was like, big in his luck. Yeah, yeah, that was bad luck. He was like, he probably pissed. Like, you fuck-ass bitch. He was dead. He was naked.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Exactly. That's another reason why Danielson is the villain. Little fuckboy comes in and gets the house. What is he supposed to do? He was supposed to go. He was trying to get a fly, bro. He got a fourth try. It was a fourth try.
Starting point is 00:47:49 All right. I got a one. Four tries. All right. I got an underrated. So we all agree. MVP goes to him. Mr. Miyagi?
Starting point is 00:47:55 I do, but I got an underrated MVP. I like it. Golf and stuff. Oh. Dude, golf and stuff wins this movie. It's just the go-to spot. It's the best date. Daniel takes Allie with Nye and the best date ever.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Great date. They're like playing minigov. They be on the go-cards. They're doing like air hockey. They were on the boat. That little boat things. They're in like they're two-seat and one. You know, like, they were driving the race car.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. You look on everything. They're going to talk dance. And it just becomes like the go-to spot to hang out. And we've all had experience at golf and stuff out here. And the real MVP part about it is it seems exact same. It's in the movie still. There's a picture's up.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But you can do all the same thing. It's got the same sign and everything. When I found it, we took our Pop Warner kids there, and I lost my mind. I was like, oh my God, this is where a Karate Kid did it. And I went and reenacted it with one of the kids. He's like, get on me. Go there. Did you guys remember Ali is actually over Daniel?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yes, she gets, she shows him out of fucking man. But she's actually showing him. Well, because she's taller in him. Well, whatever it is. The girl is over the guy. I'm okay with a girl wanting to do that, though. I'm afraid of it. Hey, why don't you teach me how to putt, actually?
Starting point is 00:49:13 You say you got to get struck, right? Hey, get in here and cooking her quick. I can go with that. It's all in there. All right, so, Miss Miyagi. Mr. Miyagi and golf and stuff. And low-key golf and stuff. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Stuff for sure. I like that. All right. Next is the off-the-bench award. We're still debating on the name. I want to call the Alex Caruso Award as a Ligger fan. Justin's telling me... Classic.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Justin's telling me Alex Cruz is not big enough. He knows him. Tony Coo-Cooch. And he wants to call the Tony Cooch Award, which I can respect because that's like... With a little symbol off the sea. The point is, a guy that comes off the bench in the movie, and every scene counts. Everything he does, I'm saying he
Starting point is 00:49:56 Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce was a star, he was a stud, dude. Going back to Karate Kid, the Tony Kookew coach, Alex Caruso, who's the tipper, who's the clippers guy? Lou Williams. Lou Williams guy. He should call it the Lou Williams award.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's what they should be. That guy. I'm determining right now, it's Lou Williams. The Lou Williams Award goes to the Luke Skywalker, Cobre Kui actor, who comes in, and like is protective of Daniel son but then breaks his knee
Starting point is 00:50:27 and then apologizes and then he still broke his knee though he broke his knee though I just guy is like he's not gonna be a walking in nowhere I mean he was because you know Miyagi did his angel shit well I think it was a that was a little placebo thing you can trick little kids
Starting point is 00:50:43 you know what I'm saying you're like oh you pour some water on it you're like it's fine look it feels better right get in the game come on yeah okay so you know that's just and by the way Luke Skywacker is just what we were calling him as we were watching it because he looks kind of like Lou X guy. He was basically like the the Cooper Cry kid with Mercy.
Starting point is 00:50:59 He was the one with the conscience. Yeah, yeah. When they were beating him up at the skeleton costume she was the one that was like, no man he's had enough and then Johnny's like no fuck that he needs more and he was the one. He needs to stop messing with us. He's gonna keep coming back. Let's fuck his ass up. But let's not look too. It's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Let's not look too finally at him because he did still fuck up Daniel's knee. So like he didn't He was instructing. He apologized right afterwards. He didn't do it on purpose. He was told, and he looked at him, and the coach was like, you got a problem with that? Yeah, yeah, the coach was. And he's like, I mean, I guess. Which brings me.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I mean, he's been doing it for years. Which is why my. Lou Williams Award goes to crease. The Cobra Chi coach, he makes that whole movie happen. Like, he is the deriving force of evil that makes sure that you know this is the bad guy. Like, he is nonstop. First of all, he has those kids in check. Like, when we.
Starting point is 00:51:53 watch their like, like practice, they are just all like, hi, yeah, ha, hey, ha, hey, like, and you know what? That's how champions get made. If what you want to do is be a champion in karate, you go to this guy's dojo, because look at what he's got to everybody doing. You know what I love, I just notice, think about how both like the coach figures in this thing, they were both just like very, meant a few words. And I feel like he, like, Creasy had even fewer words than Mr. Miyagi. And they had that.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And he was just defining their both just. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like those two, the movie ultimately comes down to them too. It's like, you have two ways of being. Okay, so you're a karate master in life. There's two ways you can go about it. You be the docile calm.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I don't even really bring this shit up, but if you want to fuck with it, I'll teach you how to be a karate master approach. And then there's the, you will fucking show no mercy. You will win. You will work your ass off. You will do 60 push-ups right now because I decided to fuck you. On your knuckles!
Starting point is 00:52:48 Sweep the leg. Sweep the leg. Which, by the way, I have a Cobra Kai costume. I've worn it out for Halloween several times. The number one thing that gets told to me over and over again is everybody comes up to me and says, Scoop the leg, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:53:01 For years, I just thought that was a line from this movie, and I watched it, and it's never said. He just says, Swift the Leg. He just tells Johnny to sweep the leg. He doesn't ever say sweep the leg, Johnny. It was ad-lived in there after he says, sweep the leg. I think somebody just shouted it out in there. Sweep the leg, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Wait, does Cameron have a, yeah? I was going to agree with you. and say it was Luke Skywalker. Luke Skywalker. I mean, you know, he had a conscience. He was like, I'm sorry. He's a good character.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Almost shout out to, uh... But still kind of a punk, bitch. I'm sorry, Jackie. Just don't get him that hard. Yeah, yeah, you didn't have to do it. But, uh, also honorable mention shoutout goes to Daniel's mom, who was just the coolest mom, the whole movie. Like, she was just chill.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Absent? What? She wasn't in the movie. But she was? She kind of discused. appears, but every time she's in, and they had to sit in the front scene. Yeah, every scene she's in, she's very likable
Starting point is 00:53:58 and just like a cool mom and like just very positive. Which, by the way, can we jump to that scene real quick where his mom drives him to pick her up at her rich alley with an eye, rich parents' house, of which Allie gets in the car, the car doesn't start, and then Daniel's son and her mom have to then push the car of which then Allie needs to put it in the gear.
Starting point is 00:54:19 As they're leaving the rich parents' house to leave to go on the date. What an amazing, like, broke ass. Go for her. She's so, but she's so cool about it. And they had the greatest date on golf and stuff. Dude, right after that.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah, she had to love the whole family at that point because, like, she's just cool. Like, she could have made that awkward for her, but the way she asks, like, hey, do you know how to work a stick shift? All right, when it gets in a year two, then you pop it. Like, she just makes it fun. And she, like, gets her, like, oh, yeah, I'm helping. Like she's cool mom.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Can you drive a stick? Yeah. Good. Put it a second. Let it roll. When I say pop it, pop it. Pop it. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Don't worry. It's all under control. She's cute. Happens all the time. Rob, hi. She's just as cool as mom as I think you'll find him yet. Except for what she was letting him hang out with an old guy that beats a little kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Who's getting him drunk, by the way. Yeah. That's hammered. There's plenty of ways you can. The 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking to. It was fucking weird, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:37 All right. So that brings me to the Kirstie Alley Award, which is the things that have not aged the best. By the way, I'm open to coming up with new names for this, but that was the first one. I came over my mind. I would say all the haircuts in this movie, both male and female. But both male and female, all the haircuts in this movie. 80s haircuts are old. 80s, they're not making it like comeback.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Do not make it like a 20-20 comeback. like, oh, we're going back to the age and Twent. Please don't. Daniel's mom definitely could use a better girl. Daniel's mom and crease at the exact same haircut. They have the same haircut.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Who's that? Dries. Daniel's mom and crease have the same haircut. Johnny's haircut? Yeah, just flap of Harrison on top of his head. Castle pointed out halfway
Starting point is 00:56:25 during the fighting scene at the end. He goes, I think Johnny get a haircut halfway in his fighting scene. Yeah, yeah. I swear his hair's longer earlier in the movie. here's another scene that was just kind of looking at it just me and just said just kind of notice when he's when he's teaching miagi's teaching him how to like do the wax on wax off
Starting point is 00:56:43 for some reason Daniel keeps just going down right in front of miagi and then he's just like he holds it there for a second and he just like no get done that bring it up here he literally does it like three times in a row he just drops down in front of him and then like and all you just see daniel's head go down right in front of miagi and he just like no No, not yet. You do it up here. And he does, like, teaches him the wax on and wax on.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, no. It's so funny. Like, it was supposed to be, like, an end-do-endo? Like, no, because you do it on the floor. So he goes down and do it. Yikes. Yeah. Welcome to the 80s.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It says a funny thing. Okay, so, yeah, to me, though, cities of care of the alley. And then another one that hasn't, that hasn't aged well is the fact that the entire Copa Kai is all basically the Aryan race. They're all just white kids with blonde hair. Oh, it did not age well. One kid on there that's very low key. That's just a black kid.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And the only things that, I swear the only, because he's never, he was never there when they were like hanging out in the school or anywhere else. He's in two seats. He's in two seats. Okay. So when they're all in the dojo and they're like line up and they're like, you and you get in there. And they get him and one of the white blonde kids.
Starting point is 00:58:02 and he gets fucked up immediately. Yeah. And then the only other scene he's in is when they're doing the tournament at the end. And I'm pretty sure he goes against Daniels. And Daniel fucks him up immediately. It's the match that Daniel son wins really fast. Which brings me to this.
Starting point is 00:58:20 He finally gets his shit together and the little black kid. Yeah, no, this is one of those movies that definitely makes me understand why people who grew up in the 80s hated white people. Yeah. It's not the best white people movie, like, even, like, Ali's
Starting point is 00:58:34 parents, that little, like, dance they go to, and ever, whatever. Like, everybody in Cobra Kai is that same, like, asshole 80s character with a blonde hair, with, like, the hair that they got to, like, shake off, like, Justin Bieber style, you know? Or headbands all the time. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm into headbands, but, like, they had that, like, they were
Starting point is 00:58:52 given headbands a bad look, which is... Yeah, so you're also white. Don't bring that up. I think it's, like a California white guy, they're like... They give... A lot of... A lot of credence to why white people were hateable in the 80s. The only cool people in the movie are all non-white. You got, I want to say Ralph Machio.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You know, he's obviously like Italian. His mom's not white. I mean, they're like Italian. According to the camera, Johnny's a great guy. According to his bully. Well, you definitely don't actually like Johnny. Johnny's very unlikable this movie. Well, he tried to turn it all around.
Starting point is 00:59:24 He's trying to better himself. I don't recall him saying that. He says that he goes, your, his buddy, or Luke Scott Wars, was like you're a degenerate. He goes, whoa. He's like, I'm my next degenerate, bro. It's my senior year.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Like, as of tomorrow, like, I'm done being a day. He doesn't do a good job. He was very standoffice. Watch the movie. He's very standoffice. All his rage, like,
Starting point is 00:59:45 Royd-raged friends are all freaking out. He has all his boys together and they're bullying one kid. He said gang mentality. It's high school. I don't know. There was groups that they pick on people.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I was the game man. I was the one getting that shit. So you, never mind. What's your own damn fault. The president was. sad about cries. I don't know. I don't feel like my school had bullies, so it was a little different.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Not to that degree. That's definitely something that like the 80s presented that was a thing. Like, they were like chasing him around every single day. General 80s decade was not the best exact display of white people. For any reason, there was like, oh my gosh, the hair and the clothes.
Starting point is 01:00:21 That hair and the clothes, everybody just being smart-y-ish. High-wasted acid-washed cheese. Yeah, there's something about 80s movies in that genre right there. That love I love to portray white people just the smarmiest people ever that just were always like entitled asshole. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Like it's very easy to hate all those people. Like that alone, that, that's the difference between honestly Daniel and Johnny is just like Daniel's more likable because he's kind of this cool guy from New York. Yeah. No, it's just like he's got like he's got a quicker. He relatable. He has that great line that had us cracking up. He's brown people.
Starting point is 01:00:55 When, when his alley with an eye first says like, oh yeah, that's my ex-boyfriend. And then he just looks up and he's just like, oh, yeah, okay. Well, he just starts talking to nothing. And then he just goes, hey, that was the voice in my head telling me that maybe I shouldn't talk to you. We're like, that's fucking genius, dude. Like, Johnny didn't have been that cool, say that kind of shit. Like, he didn't have that kind of cleverness. Yeah, genius, except for the fact that he didn't stop talking to her and he continued to get his ass with.
Starting point is 01:01:21 No, he kept it going because he addressed it right there in a clever way. That's my kind of thought. Was she in Grotny Kid, too? No, she wasn't. She got kicked out immediately and they went to Japan. And they broke up. You know what that probably was? They probably wanted her.
Starting point is 01:01:32 And then she wanted too much money or something. For sure. Here's real quick. Are you talking about Smarmi and, like, white people and stuff? Castle, I got quick question for you. Where do you live? I live in Marmosa Beach. How close to the beach do you live?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. What are you trying to say? Smarmy motherfuckusiness. Are you trying to compare me? Do I care myself? Hold on. Do I care of myself? Do I carry myself like Cobur Kai?
Starting point is 01:02:03 Do I go, they're like, oh, well, like, well, that's right? You do wear sweatbands, though. No, man, they don't headband. Exactly what I'm saying, man. Cobra Kai is trying to give headbands. They set headbands back like two decades. By the way, I haven't been out of Cobra Cuy headband because I got the costume. I know you do.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I love some of the headband. I could have bet that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm bringing them motherfuckers back. They're due for a comeback Which by the way Also Daniel He also had a headband
Starting point is 01:02:33 And it looked dope on him I can't wear one of those Because everyone don't think They can kick my ass immediately And they're like Oh it's a black kid He was trash All right
Starting point is 01:02:41 So we did the Kirstiali What Has an Age Well The opposite of that Is the Gen Aniston Award Which is What Has Age of the Best So what would you say It's age of best from this movie
Starting point is 01:02:50 Mr. Miyagi is still alive Oh shit He is 94 years old No. He looked in 94 in that movie. But hold on. Ralph Maggio also looks like he's still like 50 years. He still looks like the karate kid.
Starting point is 01:03:06 It's very much. And then my cousin Vinny and I think he went to jail for him? Oh, that's right. That was him in that movie. He looked in jail? Didn't he? No. No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:13 The kids from the Bronx. No, I think they just went to jail in the movie. Colosero. No, he just didn't get in the acting roles ever again. I think that's what it was. Yeah. Nobody wanted like a grown-up Ralph Macho. They just wanted like young, like, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:03:28 cool-looking teenagers. Because he looked the same. Yeah, yeah. When he's 22, 23, he still looked like a fucking karate kid. You know what's funny is I didn't even connect the dots that he's the same guy in my cousin Vinny, but yeah, he's great in both these movies. I think that, yeah, Mr. Miyagi, if he's still alive, that's got to be the call for the Jan-Annexin Award.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And he probably looks the same, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure Ralph Maggio does, like, accounting or, like, is a secretary or something. I don't think he's an actor. Like, I legitimately don't think he's an actor. But also, I have to, once again, go ahead and bring up golf and stuff shit age is exactly the same it looks exactly you know it you all those little boats they still work and everything I did it like last
Starting point is 01:04:06 last over all right so now we're gonna come to final C notes I wrote down notes as I was watching the movie I just want to do a quick rapid fire just drummed through them number one happy Gilmore's grandma she was old back then this movie was made 1984 at the beginning of the movie they walk by this old woman they're like oh no She's crazy. I looked at her, that's Happy Gilmore's grandma. She's old in that movie.
Starting point is 01:04:32 No way, yeah, yeah. She's already old there. She's already an old lady. Happy Gilmore was 12 years later, and she's like the same way that golden. Cruel Summer, jam. I thought it was just an A's-a-Bay song. Who does Curl Summer?
Starting point is 01:04:44 I don't know. We're going to have that playing in the background right now. Blondie. Blondie does it? Yeah, that's a jam. Actually, I just looked it up. It was Banana Rama. Classic 80s band name right there.
Starting point is 01:04:56 As much as Dan. Daniel's shower costume is the greatest costume of all time. The asshole at the party with a chicken costume that's just cracking eggs on people's head. No way that guy gets like into a party more than five minutes without people just... He was getting actual eggs on everybody's head. And everybody's just laughing. Everybody's just... Everybody's just agreeably laughing like, no, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:05:17 He's cracking eggs and it's like, oh, I got egg too. Like, no. He does that to even one, maybe two people. I'm like, get the fuck out of my house, dude. I didn't even care as my house. Like, everybody needs to pick that dude up and throw him out the building. For real, if someone's cracking eggs in my house, I suggest both of you to quickly bounce that person out of the home. Yeah, it's going to be trouble quick.
Starting point is 01:05:39 You know, like, Jesus. I think I already addressed it, but I think it's worth bringing up again. Why are the cobra kai everywhere? Everywhere they go, everywhere they look, the kobra kai are just, like, I don't know. It's a small town, but apparently they're everywhere we look. But Doyle rules. Has anyone else ever caught a fly with chop? Do you think anybody has ever done it?
Starting point is 01:05:59 Not a fucking chance. No. I'm sure that someone manipulated it and probably got it, so yeah. Flies, like, if they were, I don't think it would be better. Flies far down when it was. If it was sitting, like, on a wall, I think that's doable. If it was just buzzing around, that's next thing. Or it could be dead, hang on the wall, probably someone snatched it and think they're all bad ass.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I feel like the scene where, now that I'm thinking about it, where Daniel comes up and just snags it real quick, it's un-nays. Necessary because it turns Miyagi into a bit of an asshole like he can't even be proud of him and if Miyagi had snagged it right there It would have just kind of shown him to be this badass martial arts all the more like I don't know why why didn't they just do that You begin a lock that means I could accomplish anything. I'm mr. Miyagi I No sweat But first you accomplish in defense He should have been the one that just snagged it real quick maybe it was a realization like oh
Starting point is 01:07:04 This kid's actually got some game. It feels like something that probably didn't I was the trick to point where he was like started to teach him at that point. Yeah, maybe that was what made him. He's like, okay, this kid could probably fuck up all these other, like, Cobra Cuy Pusses. But I felt like it was more off him. He's like, I fucked him up, so I should, this kid. Well, no, he helps him out after that.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Like, that's like what, but, like, I thought that was more based off him just listening to how he's getting bullied and being like, oh, I could help this boy. I don't know. We have to talk about the fighting scene, the points. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, that's what we got to get to. Okay, we'll start with the points. So I did karate actually when I was growing up. You did Taekfondo. Which is why my memories of this movie are very fun.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Because I remember watching it as a kid, I was big in a karate and I went to tournaments where I was doing these kind of sparring fights for points. So it really resonated me when I was a kid. But I wish I understood how a karate style points tournament worked better because I'm almost certain Johnny is fucking him up in the last one. In the last sequence, he knocks Daniels and down. like four times. Yeah. Like with like double shots, he's like catching blocking stuff and then like sweeping
Starting point is 01:08:12 the leg and like hitting him in the face. He's fucking him up. He punched him in the face when he was on the ground and shit. Also he catches the game winning shot is a crane kick and he hits him in the face with it which feels illegal. Is kicking you in the face? No, you're not allowed to kick someone directly.
Starting point is 01:08:29 You can't kick him in the face, right? No. And not only is he win with it, but the movie gets thrown. thrown into fast forward close-out mode as soon as he does. Yo. 30 seconds. The man's face gets kicked in his face.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The trophy gets headed to him by Johnny. Johnny runs up, gives it to him. All of a sudden, all their hatred, the entire movie is just like, He also gets lifted in the air. He couldn't even get off the ground that quickly enough to grab the trophy. Does a pose. Looks off into the distance. And then it's a Mr. Miyagi freeze out and credits.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like literally, like the last 30s. The last, like, it feels like one, a movie that was like, suddenly they realized as they were putting it together. Oh, shit, we can't go over two hours or whatever it is. And we only have 30 seconds left. Instead of, like, re-editing, cutting out one of the training scenes or anything, they were like, all right. Let's cut that last scene off. Let's just cram the last 30 seconds and make it all happen right there. Well, I bet.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I bet it was like there was another scene. And they were going on. That scene was going to transition into them, like, you know, walk into the sunset pretty much. but they were just like, it's over time. I don't want to fuck with this anymore. Let's just saw this last scene on. We'll just cut the credits right after the kick. I would like to time it.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I bet it's less than 30 seconds. I bet from that kick to the credit. So the first name on the credit, it's 18, 19 seconds. I legit didn't even realize that the person who handed him the trophy was Johnny and Justin had to be like, no, that was Johnny for sure. Why would Johnny after a whole movie, a whole year of being like, this kid is my enemy and now he beat me at my game which by the way
Starting point is 01:10:08 Johnny is clearly better than him and Danielson goes into the tournament not having a rank or a belt and he didn't even know the rules he goes what are the rules what am I yeah he doesn't know how this works he went into endangered people yeah and Johnny this is seriously his game Johnny was not an actor
Starting point is 01:10:26 and they were like let's teach you karate like I could just see the way he moved like this guy was Bruce Lee level good and he was in he's probably in like Burbank or something, just studying his ass off and all of a sudden there's a movie karate kid. He's like, oh, I can act too. I can be an asshole and they're like, yeah, you do have that
Starting point is 01:10:42 80s asshole look that we're looking for and he was like the perfect role. And then you watch him and Daniel in the same ring and Daniel's hobbling around and I'm just like there's no way Johnny even comes close to losing this. And he doesn't as we just talked about like he scores
Starting point is 01:10:58 more points than him. He fucked his ass up. He fucks him up and then after all that, somehow he gets gipped out, he gets kicked in a face. And there's not even, there's not even a point where he wants to, like, argue it. His first reaction is to jump right to the trophy and head it to him and suddenly bury everything by being like, you're the true champion. And then it's just a Mr. Miyagi, I sew, and we're out.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And think about this. It was his senior year. He had been busting his ass his whole life. He was the reigning champion. He had won the year before. And then he gets beat by this. nobody loser that lies about what belt he is to get into the tournament? He goes, what, what belt do I need? What do you mean? He's like a brown or a black. Which, honestly,
Starting point is 01:11:43 there's got to be a good chance that like legit karate masters hate this movie for that entire last sequence. Because first of all, though scoring is off, as even we can tell, they let the guy who's clearly worse win. And then they kind of expose this thing where like, apparently you don't even need to earn a black belt to wear a black belt at a karate tournament. You don't have to be qualified to enter a state championship. You just go like, oh yeah, yeah, go, no. Can I get a black belt real quick? Oh, yeah, cool, thanks.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And then you walk around the black belt all day, like, you just earn that shit. And these guys take years to fucking pull that shit off. Yeah, and there was a point where they literally, one of the officials was like, yeah, well, who do you fight? What are your credentials? And then they look at Mr. Miyagi and he goes, he's with me. And this dude's like, oh, he's an old Asian guy. He was no one he's doing. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:12:33 He's got a head dead and he's an old Asian guy. Just immediately. And need I point out the Fumanchu gouti going on? Like, yeah, this guy, you got to trust this guy. But he has some oil. He carries that much cloud. Yeah. Overall, if you were raided now on a system,
Starting point is 01:12:50 we haven't created a system of how you would score these. I don't know. Yeah, not a chance kids today would watch it. They'd be like, this kid's whack. Well, they have remade it. I don't actually have... I haven't seen it. I don't want to watch it.
Starting point is 01:13:01 It's like Jalen Smith or something. No. I feel like he looks like he's about to burst in a tears old time. No, it did not stand the fist of time. No. No, it specifically works for the time that it was in that kind of like gave ninjas and karate the forefront that led to like Ninja Turtles and like a lot of things that we ended up loving as in like my childhood happened. I did talk taekwondo because of it.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah, I was doing karate. I loved Ninja Turtles. Like I was super into that stuff and I think it was just a right place, right time. And they're like they made us serious. about it, right? How many were that? How many movies were there? Was there only...
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah, I was gonna say it. Jesus. Mine is, it was definitely a time, at the time thing that worked, and it still stands at the time enough for us to talk about three things with it. So, all in all, I appreciate it. Gaines and Zay bully the whole time. We already proved you wrong.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Johnny, Johnny's definitely the ass. Actually, no, the true asshole obviously comes from Creece, the dude up top. He's the guy that He's the guy that... Swip the Lavee. Swip the leg. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:04 And I don't think that, first of all, the girl moved away, that sucks. What? The main girl, she moves away in the second movie.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Okay. So the whole... But the whole thing... Stop talking about the second movie. We're done. See? Okay, are you going?
Starting point is 01:14:19 We're going to get it. There's a good point to be made. Yeah, we're going to second movie already. They fought over that girl for absolutely no reason. So the whole movie was absolutely pointless.
Starting point is 01:14:26 That's all... All right. Well, then that's a fair point that. That's all we need to figure out in the second movie, yeah. If you go on to number two, this whole first movie. She didn't get any of our awards, by the way. All right, so I think that concludes. I think we've talked about three things about and then some about karate kid.
Starting point is 01:14:44 And I hope that if you haven't seen it in a long time as I haven't since I was a kid, this will make you actually go into it with some perspective and see some things that you want to watch about it. You agree with me. Yeah. You tell us. You write in. I don't actually have.
Starting point is 01:14:59 have like an account to actually yeah you find me you can find me right at cali castle at cali castle get me up before i have like an email it's the camdome low month yeah so in that being said on behalf of justito and cam i'm castle and sweep the leg johnny sweep the leg we are out of here

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