Dissect DJs - Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

We break down the masterpiece single off the critically acclaimed 'Miseducation of Lauryn Hill' album that crosses the soul of the 60's with the street sound of the 90's with Lauryn Hi...ll's "Doo Wop (That Thing)". Is Lauryn teaching valuable lessons, or just venting out of scorn and spite? The Dissect DJs debate! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Let's go DJ Let's go Let's go You were looking for your friend The one you let hit it And never called you again Remember when he told you he was about to bencham
Starting point is 00:00:35 You act like you and him They give him a little trim to begin Now you think you really gonna pretend Like you wasn't down and you called him again Plus when you give it up so easy you ain't even fooling him If you did it then and you probably again Talking out your next and you're a Christian I must slam sleeping with this
Starting point is 00:00:52 Now that was the sin that did Jezebel in. Who you're going to tell when the repercussions spent? Showing off your ass because you're thinking it's a train girlfriend. Let me break it down for you again. You know I only said because I'm truly genuine. Don't be a hard rock when you really are a gym, baby girl. Respect is just a minimum. When you're still defending them now?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Lauren is only human. Who the same predicament that is sitting side your head like a million women in Philippine. And silly one girl sell their souls because of sin. Look at where you be in here. We are back. It is the DJs. Like a spin it, mix it, throw up back, and dissect it. With the absolute worst transition possible. What's going on? It's your boy, D. I wasn't going to call you on that. Oh, you know, I got to call myself on something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I blew it. But Dysk. DJ's DJ MC. Chigoo-ch-ch-chig-jag. What else, Steve? DJ Castle, and we are here to dissect one of the. landmark tracks from 1998 is Lauren Hill's duop parentheses that thing off the unforgettable album the missed education of Lauren Hill which if you were around 1998 there was no getting around this album everybody knew this album pretty much everybody had this album and it takes me back to the day when we actually appreciated albums and had them and everybody would actually listen to the story
Starting point is 00:02:21 that the artist had to tell I remember this album she had like it introed with like a classroom and stuff and like she was being called on by the teacher and everything and like we just don't get that like there's no what was the release date for this what was the uh the actual song yeah did we do we not get that do we do we fuck up and not research you know what i just realized i broke my own rule and i didn't go to genius lyrics which always gives me that i just was gonna use the google uh fucking up guys i got it though i got it here it goes the release date i did not bring my glasses this will be harder for me to read uh july 7th 1998. So this one was kind of a mid-summer jam, and we're heading into the summer. So I was actually
Starting point is 00:03:02 thinking we need to come back with another summer jam, and I wasn't thinking this as I picked it, but yeah, it's a good summer sound, especially with the music video, which we are going to follow as we dissect this. We also dissect the video. It's also a very legendary video, but it's got a very summer feel to it. And did we figure out the release date? What year was that? I just said it. July 7th, 1998. It was that late? Yeah. That's for some reason I would have guessed it was like 94. No, because when you think about Lauren Hill, you think of this song and specifically this album, and you think of the Fugees, and you also think a Sister Act 2.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It's the way that we come is the moment of me. That one? But you also think a Sister Act 2. But that was like Young Lauren Hill, and that was more around 94-95. Remember? Back in the habit. Sister Act 2. Great movie.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I actually find that much more rewatchable than Sister Act 1. He told me. Oh, he told me. have to watch. That last performance. If I ever turn on Sister Act 2 and I just, first of all, if I see it on the guide, I'm probably going to
Starting point is 00:04:06 at least check in. Leave the last 15 minutes. It'll get you hype. Get back in. If it's anywhere near that last part when they're doing that final performance, I'm going to stay and watch it. I actually saw, I know you as a karaoke DJ will appreciate this. My favorite, I think, karaoke performance I ever saw. It was like for a contest where they would have like groups
Starting point is 00:04:22 perform together and they would really put their all into it. I saw this group of like maybe six people like reenact this entire performance beginning with like Lauren Hill singing at the beginning and everything and then they you know then the dancers come out and stuff way too dope guy does the back flip and shit it was the best choreographed karaoke number i've ever seen so if you have a group of like five or six friends and you're looking to just wow everybody on the karaoke stage pull up the last number of sister act two back in the habit which i learned after the fact like literally 20 years later a habit is what uh nun wears so that's why it's back in the
Starting point is 00:04:56 habit. Otherwise, it doesn't actually make sense. But what we'll be go over? What? What? We'll be go over was back in the habit. She threw that thing back. Honestly, if you were to ask me what the hat of a nunn was, I don't know what I would have going to cut. Like, honestly, you would have stumped me. I'd have been like, because who thinks that? Who honestly thinks of the name of whatever the nuns wear? It's none gear. It makes sense. It should have a name now that I think about it. But it's a habit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:25 They wear it, but they. This is all based on something that somebody told me. Have you ever eaten that the habit? Yeah, that's what I think of when I think of the habit. Yeah, there was a good one. I've actually never eaten there. Oh, you can get a burger the size of your head. Do they have pastrami sandwiches? Of course they do.
Starting point is 00:05:37 That's right. I think I remember that. Apparently, that's like their thing. I think I did have a pastrami. I'm not a big pastrami guy, so I never actually tasted it. Pistrami. I mean, I would probably work. I'm not picky.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think you need to indulge. Expand my wings. Your pastrami. Intake. Anyway, back to, I was talking about things. I was thinking about things. and that's one thing I thought when thinking about this song
Starting point is 00:06:00 is what is that thing especially coming at 98 right 98 I was 14 and honestly I thought that in my mind I was like I didn't think that thing was that thing but now that I think about it that thing is exactly what I thought that thing was
Starting point is 00:06:17 at that age so what's that thing you know laying that pipe hubba hubb Yeah, I think that's what she's getting after. But, you know, we have a song that I've sacked, and we'll figure that out.
Starting point is 00:06:39 We'll see. Yeah, man. So it's been three weeks since she'd been looking for her friend. So I always questioned that from the get-go. I was like, dude, three weeks that she's been looking? Like, she should have realized after a week, right? Like, if you don't get hit up. Missing personal.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Within seven days of like a hookup or anything. If you don't get hit up or like, you're texting them and like, hey, want to go to yogurt land or something? And they're not responding. After a week, you should be like, you know what? I think that's done. I think I need to move on. It is what it was. Got to go back to the habit and pick up on something else.
Starting point is 00:07:12 But she not only gave it additional week on top of that. She gave it a fucking third week. So what's interesting is when you say third week, three weeks you've been looking for your friend, when you just hear that alone, it's like, I'm thinking it's just like your friend. Out the gate, yes. And it's like, your friend's been on the file a missing person's report. If like there's nobody has heard from your friend. Anthony. Hey, has anybody
Starting point is 00:07:35 checked in with Anthony? I haven't heard from him in like three weeks. No, me neither. Should we look into this? Should we contact his mother? See, I don't think of Dominic. Contact law enforcement. Why, is there a person named Dominic? I don't know. I just tell a lot. Like, a person that gets lost. It could be Dominic in your story.
Starting point is 00:07:50 With a K, not as, like... Definitely. Yeah, Dominic's with K's always cooler. I haven't actually known any. Wait, what's a Dominic without a K? Like, what would that be a C? But would just be C at the end? Like a like a Yotich or something like that? Like it just ends with a C. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Derek with a C. I've never seen that. Eric. Wait, so when you said Dominic with a K, were you intending it to attack out after the C or only a K? Because I think only a K with actually, that's kind of cool. I was thinking about that thing. Put that in the back pocket. You know, when you think about that thing, your brain starts to go fucking haywire and think about other things.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And when you're, you know. That's education. That's the public school system of America. That's what that is. And you know what? That's why we need the mis-education. of Lauren Hill. So what else is to say
Starting point is 00:08:35 after the three weeks? Because I always got caught up with that. So in that instance, you would think, okay, your friend's missing. We should do something about this, not just sing a doo-wop in the middle of New York City, but then... Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It's been three weeks since you were looking for your friend. The one you let hit and never called you again. So yeah, that's what you were referring to earlier. There's definitely a... Okay, this was like a hookup, and now three weeks of silence was gone by.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Pretty sure that means there's a ghost in the room. and we all just need to get over it and move on and probably not lament too much on the fact that you're you have this is no longer a missing friend this is just a person that doesn't want to see you or talk to you anymore and why she call him a friend like that's what's confusing about that maybe they were friends they hit and then he disappeared which is even worse about the situation because now you guys developed a relationship went to fucking chucky cheese
Starting point is 00:09:25 played you know in the balls a little bit together or whatever you guys I guess I went, usually adults don't go to Chuck Echise but anyway, I was just imagining, I was imagining a date going to Chuckie Cheese, like, let's act like kids again, you know, and just, but. You think that would actually be fun or, like, is it sound like,
Starting point is 00:09:42 no, I think it thought, in theory, it's a lot more fun than you actually start doing it. And you get there and there's a bunch of annoying guys kids. All over the place, yeah. It's actually way more grimeier than you remember. And it's really harder to get to that thing.
Starting point is 00:09:50 A lot of those games actually aren't as fun as you remember. I actually remember going to Dave and Bustage not too long ago and thought, I'm going to play all these games. It's going to be awesome. And, like, of them actually kind of suck. Even like the really futuristic ones where it's like,
Starting point is 00:10:04 you step into like a whole VR thing. Usually the controllers are all fucked up so you can't even play the game to actually Yeah, you get it, dude. So what were we talking about? What were we at? Chucky cheese. And that has been three weeks since he lost her friend. A friend.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And I keep getting stuck on the friend part. I think it just said it rhymes with again. Let's be real. Oh, okay. So this is really just the guy she met. Well, I'm wondering if it's her that's like let somebody hit or if it's like she's referring to a guy because if it's her then this whole song to me is coming out a place of scorn so let's just put down the back pocket and move on and we'll figure out what the story is
Starting point is 00:10:40 all right you act like you ain't hear him then give him a little trim what like she cut his hair or like she yeah keep going keep it going keep it going keep it i'm going to get all these to begin how you think you're really going to pretend like he wasn't down and you called him again All right, so she's definitely talking to a girl at now at this point, I feel like. And hating on the girl, like, hating on the fact that the girl was into it. Yes. Slammed it out with a dude, was still into the dude, and was trying to hit the guy up. Like, what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:11:11 I guess in most ages, your girl's supposed to be like, I know, I'm going to let him hit. But him call me, and that's how I know. But it's like, come out of here. She wanted to hit him up. He gave good pipe, and they wanted to, you know, she wanted to. Classic example of when girls' accrued. like they have each other's back, but in fact are the quickest to then turn on them. And then they will shame them for as soon as something goes down and act like,
Starting point is 00:11:38 how foolish of you to go and mess around with this dude? And then she turns around and makes a whole damn song about it. And as I'm looking at the rest of the verse, this is where this. Go ahead. Just go off. Let's hear what she says. I want to hear the gist of the next. Plus when you give it up so easy, you ain't even fooling him.
Starting point is 00:11:57 If you did it then, then you'd. probably fuck again talking out your neck saying you're christian a muslim sleeping with the gin i don't even know what the gin means i gotta feel like the genius lyrics got that word wrong because a yeah they might have i don't know that doesn't mean sense to me but now that was a sin that did a jesabel in see i initially throwing her words around like jesabel now is this okay now i'm gonna step outside the box i feel like this is loren shaming a friend of hers that maybe got with a guy that she was interested in. I'm starting to like get that. Yeah. I'm getting that vibe. And then Lawrence just
Starting point is 00:12:30 hating on her. Just like, hating on her. Oh, he didn't call you. Yeah, you let him hit like in two seconds. Like what are you thinking? It doesn't happen. Like you know, fuck you. You know, they had a great time of Chucky Cheese. And she was like, yo, I like those balls at Chuck E cheese and I don't want those balls
Starting point is 00:12:46 now. You know what I mean? She was into it. Yeah. I thought you was Christian, Muslim. She literally just throws out multiple religions. Yeah, all different religions. Really trying to just cover the raids of like who she could be. She is, and she's not a good friend if she doesn't know specifically if they, you know, whatever religion. I'm not going to go on for the religion. No, she keeps going then.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Showing off your ass because you're thinking it's a trend girlfriend. Let me break it down for you again. You know, I only say it because I'm truly genuine. Oh, fuck you with your, I'm genuine. I'm only saying this because I'm genuine. Dude, I can be genuine. That line sounds so worse than it ever did before. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I always thought like at that point when I used to listen to like, yes, she's being genuine. She's being respectable Let's change the cadence, okay? Look, I'm only telling you this Because I'm truly genuine Fuck you And I'm a good friend Fuck you, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:35 I would have already hit you Like while genuine was coming out of your mouth What would your pastor think about this? And then sniff Yeah, I agree Serena What would your mother? Lauren, you're starting to piss me off
Starting point is 00:13:49 You're about to get the big old Not yet Not yet, not yet But it's coming Miss Hill It works because she's just sings these words to a teaculate rhyming you a half of fuck and then we'll see where the rest is don't be a hard rock when you really are a jam baby girl respect is just a minimum oh man respect respect is a minimum yeah i mean that's a good that's a good line no everything she's saying is
Starting point is 00:14:17 this is honestly poetry it's just annoying that it's like coming from a place it sounds like a coming from a friend that's being really like wanting to look down on her friend from her Perch. For boning some guy that she was into a little too quickly, maybe in the relationship. That's definitely where this poetry is leaked from. And there's a next line, right, where it goes off on the guys. All right. Well, let's...
Starting point is 00:14:37 Well, now, this is interesting because then she goes, now Lauren is only human. Don't think I haven't been through the same predicament. Okay, there you go. Right. All right. Let's see if you can bring this back around. Yeah, she sounds like she's you turning the bus. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:52 She's bringing it back. What else? Let it sit inside your head like a million. women in Philly, Penn. It's silly when girls sell their soul because it's in? Yeah, like it's in. Like it's a thing to do? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So they're saying, because it's in. Look at where you're getting to. Which I've never actually know what she says, though. Look at where you be in. Hair weaves like Europeans. Fake nails done by Koreans. Come again. Come again
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah, yeah Yeah Come again Indicated to the men Or concern with its rims And his tims and his women Hey men this man Come in the club like who the fans
Starting point is 00:16:03 Don't care who they spend Poppy Yang Like you got yin Let's stop a 10 The one to pack pissed out by their waistmen Cressile by the casement Still the name of his basement The pretty face man
Starting point is 00:16:12 Claiming that they did a bed man Need to take care of their three and four kids Been the face and court case When the child supports late Money taking heart breaking out you wonder All women hate men And a sneaky sound of man The punk men's the violence man
Starting point is 00:16:23 The grief is super seamen acting like boys and be men 24 kids When you ain't right with that How you're going to win when you ain't right with then How you're going to win when you ain't right with that? Come to get 24 kids
Starting point is 00:16:39 You know Lauren is hating in this track He has 24 kids Three to four kids Oh is that what it says? Dude my whole life I thought he said 24 kids And I was about to go off And this full has 24 kids I'll give you 30 seconds of rant time
Starting point is 00:16:51 On the 24 kids thing Oh I need to I mean, self-explanatory. 24 fucking kids. What does this guy do? How old is this man? How many women? How many per year?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Honestly, you don't need to be that old. You just need to go on a rampage every single day, just find somebody and just everyone, just load up and let out and just go off and just hope it the women are on their six day of their monthly cycle that they can actually get pregnant because it really, there's only six days apparently that a woman can actually specifically get pregnant in her cycle and there's no there's ways of knowing that and um i just googled uh what the guinness world record for most kids ever had by one person is it's uh 24 44 no 58 you over estimated 88 you were close in that one 84 69 and uh 16 pairs of twins only shit that would actually bump the number of
Starting point is 00:17:50 69 that's all fucking 69 i wonder if he stopped the 69 like yeah How do you even house all that? I would take an apartment complex and a half, but it happened way back, okay, between 1725 and 1765. So this is just back in ancient days when just people were doing wild. Oh, he was shit in everybody. He was just, his whole slave plantation
Starting point is 00:18:12 and disrespectful and some sort of. I guarantee not all the women were like, you know, that's bad. Like one of those cult followings where everybody starts following a leader and then at a certain point he just drops in. and all the women in the town must be birthed by my seed. And then everybody's like, wait. Hey.
Starting point is 00:18:30 No questions here. Let's do it. Yeah. Hi, Bill. I live in the clock tower. Did you say that... No questions. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:40 No, you're right. Yeah, your word is all. You're the leader. You're the guy. You're the guy. Here's my wife. Yeah, no, I could see how that... Well, that was actually...
Starting point is 00:18:50 This appears to be the one who birthed the most, because that was a woman. I don't even know what the record is for the guy who's fathered most children. I'm telling you, a guy can go away more. Wait, that's one woman that had 60. Yeah. Dude, that changes the whole perspective. One woman had 69 kids back in the 1700s.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And they didn't have any kind of like medication or nothing. I know, you would think she would die at a certain point, right? I mean, she must have been popping out a kid and immediately getting pregnant. Look it up. Within a week. With a quick Google search, her name was Valentina Vas. Sayla, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:19:24 I probably mispronounce that. I don't even like, how was that? That's, sounds painful. I don't think about it. But she didn't say that. She said three to four,
Starting point is 00:19:31 so let's get back on track. Lauren now turns her attention to the men folk. Yeah. And she continues to like, it's a real generalization that she's doing. Go straight general.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, all guys are this. Like, go ahead. What does she go off on? I got to hear it because she does talk about popping tape and Christa about a case.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah. And that they're all more focused on the rim. First of all, Lauren. I drink Titos. Okay. So it'd be Titos by the case. Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So, she said the second verse is dedicated to the man. More concerned with his rims and his Tims than his women. Oh, this is straight in like late 90s. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Tims. You're going to hear a lot of big ribs were like. A lot of 90s.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Nineties buzzwords. I wanted Tims and big ribs back in late 90s. That was my style. And I wanted dubs spinning with some unique timbs. Not like the normal brown ones, but I wanted like the grays. with the legs. Yeah, I wanted to do. I feel like they were heavy as
Starting point is 00:20:23 fuck though, right? Oh, heavy as shit. The stupidest outfit I could have ever fucking in California. Like Southern California at that. You wear Tims and boots in New York and stuff because it's cool. You wear boots because it's rainy. Stupidest thing you possibly wear. I bet you've hooped into, you've probably hooped in Taylorlitz in high school.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Dude that halftime. Get your ankles cracked. Yeah, you don't, yeah, whatever. It was good times. Definitely. Anyways. So yeah, you're going to hear a lot of. A lot of 90s buzzwords about to pop off.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Him and his man. come in the club like hooligans. Don't care who they offend. Popping Yang like you got Vent. You got game. Oh, yeah. Okay. So Yang, is that, what is that like a,
Starting point is 00:21:01 is that a liquor that was Piper in the 90s? I look it up. Keep going. Let's stop pretend the ones that pack pistols by the waist man. Chris style by the case man, still in the mother's basement. The pretty face man claiming they did a bid. Wait, do that whole phrase one more time? All right, let me break down what she was just talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:18 She's talking about the dudes that packing. something on their ways. Wait, so these fools, these guys are, yeah, I guess, I mean, I guess I'm not part of the world that packs a gun.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah. Like, all right, time to go out, got my timbrelins, got my hair looking good, I'm smelling good, and I got my, uh,
Starting point is 00:21:35 22 by my side. Like, interestingly, I used to go to a club. I can understand driving around. Like, no, I could be wrong here,
Starting point is 00:21:42 but I feel like back in the 90s, that was more prevalent because it was more glorified in like rap videos and shit. Tupac and Biggie had just got... Yeah. And a lot of people did think they needed to pack. Or if nothing else, like, as she's calling out here,
Starting point is 00:21:57 like, they were just trying to, like, front-in. Because then the next line is, then they order a case of Chris style. And, like, they're all about their image. I'm just more referring to the fact that going out, like, all right, I'm ready to go out. And got to make sure I'm protected. Gotta get my gut. I know. Anybody fucks me.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I got to kill them, you know? Yeah. They're done. It's a rough way to live. It's just, I can understand, like, driving through the forest or, or I can just, you just, some around like again in your car because it's baby I get that I get it all just because you never know what's going to happen but like when you're going out to the club
Starting point is 00:22:27 you hope that you know things are getting peaceful especially in the club they're checking everybody for these things but he just was like fuck it yeah they would definitely get checked to the door more quickly nowadays than they did back down that's for sure anyway keep we going so is Christile by the case yeah so the main point she's talking about she's talking about
Starting point is 00:22:42 the guys who care about the rims and like they put their focus and sitting there they're right up but he's in his mom's basement with their Tim's and then they stay in their mom's basement. So, like, she's like, they're all up front and they don't get a shit. Now, is he paying towards the mortgage of the house for this, his mother's house? Like, is it paid off or does she have a large loan that he's paying off? And therefore, he's actually the prime payer of this house.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Because if that's the case, fuck you for making fun of the fact that he's in the basement. He's actually helping out. He's actually helping his mom out by having the actual house. And he's in the basement taking a backseat to what's actually happening. Why would he stay in the basement then? You would think, but he's helping his. mom he's like mom i'm giving you the respect and the dignity you deserve to stay in the house that you build for us but i'll be paying continue to pay for it through the basement it's an easy
Starting point is 00:23:27 generalization to make i'm just saying to just assume that it's okay to pay your mortgage off on your mother's house because there's definitely this happens today and just different guys aren't okay yes okay it's okay really always got to limit that every time you can't though there's always a thing when um it's easy to call out people who want a front and put out a image that they don't actually have, and that is still very prevalent today. Believe me, anybody around Los Angeles can tell you that. But I always think it's easy to then just assume that these guys then live in their basement because, I don't know, that's just a bold generalization that Lauren's making.
Starting point is 00:24:02 A lot of this song is bold generalizations. That feels again like she's just, I definitely think that she wrote this song after she was pissed off that a friend of her is hooked up with a guy she liked. And now she's like calling out the guy even though she was actually feeling. She even refers to them as pretty face in this, you know? The pretty face... It's definitely what happened, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:25 She said, like, the pretty face men claiming that they did a bid meant, okay, and that also goes back to a kind of 90s vibe that it was really big to, like, wrap this thug culture, and it was street credit if you did time in the pen, you know? So that's who she's calling out in this one. Need to take care of the three or four kids, and they face a court case when the child support late, Money taking and heartbreaking. Now you wonder why women hate men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:52 There's a lot of scoring coming out of the song. The sneaky silent man, the punk domestic violence men. Quick to shoot the seamen. Stop acting like boys and be men. How you gonna win when you ain't right within? How you go win when you wait right within? How are you gonna win when you wait right within? Come again.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Quick to shoot the semen? Yeah. That's a good word. It's a good word. I love this part. Break it down Real quick It's a lot more prevalent
Starting point is 00:26:21 For guys to be all about just that thing than girls Any girl that is just about that thing Has guy mentality and those girls Gotta watch out for them Because They will break your heart And wrong with it They're all about that thing
Starting point is 00:26:36 You'll be like Oh she loves me No she don't she just wanted that thing so she comes from a perspective of one side of it which there's one way to look at it but yeah this definitely happens on both aspects but yeah happens on both sides and people need be called out but i don't think that they need to be generalized and i know it's a two thing you know i mean it's just it's yeah it's just a uh there's more men that do this than girls i just am i wrong I'm saying that?
Starting point is 00:27:08 Do what? Like more guys would be like just about that thing and then we'll move on versus women have a little more of emotional. This is, this is more of a general. It's a case by case basis to be sure, but, um,
Starting point is 00:27:19 percentage wise. Depends where we're at. That's true. You know? Shit. Man, you take that shit to a strip club. It's like, go to Miami, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. Shit. Some of the gold diggers out there. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, it's a complicated dance to, to weave in and out of it. And Lauren's, got her take
Starting point is 00:27:37 and she's do whopping it sometimes you get put in your place immediately and you did that to me right now and all you can do is just play that thing oh dissect DJs that thing
Starting point is 00:28:01 legendary music video that we just you know gladstead now there's no real story happened in the video so we don't need to really get into the specifics of what is being told but the main aspect of it that needs to be discussed I think it's about time I bring it down.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So it's a split screen. It's all in downtown New York. And she's got, on the left side, it's Lauren Hill and everybody behind her. They're all dressed like they're in the 60s. And on the right side, it's the same kind of setting, but it's in the 90s. And it's really shown the different styles and natures. And I think this is done because the song being called Duwop, it has a sound from the, it's got a throwback sound from the 60s.
Starting point is 00:28:43 In fact, it uses a sample from, Edwin Starr's Stopperon's site, which is a song from the late 60s. So, yeah, it's a very interesting take on how to do a video in how New York, while the scene, as far as physically, is very much the same, how the entire appearance was. So based on looking at these two scenes, which one would you want to be part of more in, like, party? The 60s. The 60s, right? I agree. And maybe it's just because that is a world that I haven't actually lived in where I was in the next. 90s.
Starting point is 00:29:16 That's more of what it is, because 90s was dope. But I will, I will say, I think Lauren looks much better in her 60s get up than she does in the 90s get up. Is that Lauren? In both of them? She's in both of them, yeah. Triven, I thought I was like, now. I thought that when I first saw it as a kid, yeah, but no, that's her in the, see, right
Starting point is 00:29:31 at the beginning of the video, it says New York City, 1967 in 1998. And, uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, Lauren's like little zebra get up in the 60s attire with her, like, 60s, like, Bob, you know, like her hair. I think, uh, I think she looks a bit. She looks good either way.
Starting point is 00:29:47 We all love Lauren Hill. It's felt like it was more potential in the, although 90s had some high potential with stocks that. But in the 60s, like, there was just more of a chance that you can, you know, be a trash man and still take care of a family of five. And, you know, your mom be it. Trashman get me, your wife, your wife, you know. They still make good scraps now, but it's on getting to a point where not anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Like, I wasn't even trying to down talk thing. I'm just moving to say, any profession. Like, where you were able to take care of your entire family with any profession, Whether it be custodial duties or fucking, you know, anything. Assistant management at the video shop. Assistant coordinator of the director of associate diverse. At Lowe's. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Citi, at Lowe's. Yes, exactly. Stuff like that. Anything. The fact that you were able to have a job, take care of a family of five, and you still have an outhold wife that's able to control the family and make sure. And both could work back then, but it was nice that one could take care of the entire thing. No longer is that the case.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And that's why. I kind of would like the 70s. However, to this day, I don't know how they dealt with, you know, phones and contact people, like answering machines and shit. Like, I grew up in answering machines, so if you didn't catch somebody, you call them, leave a message. This is, 67 was prior to that. Like, if nobody's home, they're just not home. No, you just had to keep it going.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And that's how somebody would, you wouldn't hear from a friend for three weeks at that point. That makes more sense. So back in the 60s, it didn't necessarily mean you were being ghosted. It was just a very good reasonable chance. Hard to find the person. They just had no idea how to get a hold of you, you know. That's crazy to me, yeah. So three weeks wasn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You just had to hope to run into them on the street again. So the emphasis we made on three weeks at the beginning of this recording was a lot more based on now's version of three weeks. Versus 67, like three weeks was probably like yesterday. Well, even in 98, I feel like not everybody necessarily had cell phones. It was definitely more prevalent. They had answer machines. There was answer machines. People had pagers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:43 But it's not like now. Like if now with how easy it is to text and everything, I don't think texting was used that often in the 90s. Are you calling her? Yeah, it's just. There are plenty of fish in the sea. We can't keep referencing swingers in every episode. You guys need to watch.
Starting point is 00:32:00 But in 98, yeah, I don't think that, like, it was more still even more possible that maybe you didn't hear from this over three weeks and it was reasonable. Now it's just like, yeah, that person is just straight up ghosting you. That's what that is. Yeah. So the 60s party to me, I thought, looked like more fun. But the sad reality is, like, that one is much more likely to get broken up real quick in hostile fashion. So that's an unfortunate reality of the 60s.
Starting point is 00:32:26 They looked great. The 60s were, I think. What? The 90s one, they had gas on their sides and shit. It was true. It was a lot. What? You're a way more.
Starting point is 00:32:37 There's doo-wobics. Right in the middle. 67. Right in the middle of the civil rights. movement. It depends where we're at. It depends, I guess, what's it. Again, context. Well, it's New York City. Where you're at is very important to this.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Crazy times out, all times. You know, times are crazy back then. Times are crazy in the 90s. And it's crazy because we almost would like to see a new version of this done. But like, everybody would be on their phones. Yeah, I know. It would be way less of a phone. It would literally be like her just singing and everybody else in the background. And she's looking down texting the whole time.
Starting point is 00:33:10 She's not even saying it. I've sent it a tweet. It's somebody else. Like, you know how you put those things in and somebody else says it for you. Yeah. And you're just like, guys, you know you better walk out. That stupid TikTok voice and everything. Guys, you know you better watch out.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Some guys, some guys are only about. Yeah, that shit. Hey, stop using the TikTok voice. Please. I hate that shit. I was just complaining to my girl from the other day. I hate those. A moment I hear that voice, I'm not listening here anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It could be a great video. As soon as I hear that, I'm like, I don't want to hear that. Fuck that fucking thing, man. I went to a warrior's game and tried to break into the first level. Like, I immediately don't give a fuck. Bad the TikTok voice. At least make the voice cooler. I fucking hate it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Just give some different versions. Yeah. Yeah. Like, let me have an option to use, like, Shaq's voice. It's like, you should be like ways. Can I get Pierce Brasman explaining some shit? Our level on this episode to go on different tangents was exceptional. We were all over the map here.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I just have to give us credit on that because I don't even know where we went. I'm going to have to listen to this episode. Like, dude, we talked about what? Because I know we went. You know what we talked about? That thing. That thing.
Starting point is 00:34:24 That thing could be a lot of things. That thing could be a lot of things. Slap it out, snap it out. And this time, it's going to be slaps. It's going to be. Nice. Four slaps. And two really groovy.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, it was like some duwop snaps, you know. Duop 60s, but 90s. snaps to him. I feel like my 90s snaps would be kind of like more of it. I don't remember. I don't, did they snap in the 90s? Was it more kind of like a,
Starting point is 00:34:59 Michael, he snapped in the 80s. They got more on their knees. I don't know what I'm going to do. 90s got away from snapping. We didn't, that was a decade that I think slapping was out, or snapping was out,
Starting point is 00:35:09 you know. Yeah. So, yeah, I kind of went with dewop. I don't know, yeah, this track is classic.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I've always enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed when it had the ability to play a lot throughout my whole life but never really felt played out to this day i'll be stoked when i hear it there's a lot of songs when they and because this song was like the top jam of the year it leaves up there i remember it like swept the grammies she won like best artists everything one best album grameys always like just decide they pick their one artist in a certain year where they're like we're just going to
Starting point is 00:35:41 give them all the grammies this year it was Lauren hill this year and i was actually okay with it because i felt like the album was fire this song was the dope as one on there it was really like the the lead falcon to really like soar over the entire music scene and like just kill it so i was always happy with it i don't know why i landed on falcon sometimes you don't know what we're gonna go with i wish you were a lead hawk and then i would have been a lot more on board with i'm gonna stick by falcon because i just i like to stick with my guns now anyways i was always happy with it still works to this day i love the way the music video contrasted to the two areas really brilliant idea uh i would have maybe come close to five slabs but i don't like the way
Starting point is 00:36:19 Lauren was really kind of just being a little bitter. And I think that came out a little bit more in her later career. So maybe a little bit too much bitterness, Lauren, you know? Just like positive in the ship, you know what I mean? Go back to the teachings of sister whoopey Goldberg, whatever her name was, whatever she taught you, bring that and teach that to the millions that listen to you. Anyways, that's me. How many slaps and snaps you give, do whoop?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Real quick, before I do in that, you could have even went with Eagle, pigeon no you had a good with hawk albatross pigeons are like the weakest bird
Starting point is 00:36:53 any of any of the just the hawkins what did you falcons falcons falcons are dope look out
Starting point is 00:37:08 look out watch out watch out look out there it is I thought that was all leading to a five slap
Starting point is 00:37:17 I was gonna be like no I agreed with your hate on she's just she's a friend a little negative that has a friend
Starting point is 00:37:25 that hit a five a guy that she was into and she's gonna talk shit on both of them now. Yeah. That's what I came to. That's the conclusion of the song. I never realized until we dissect the fuck out of it. But now, yeah, I'm good. Lauren, mind
Starting point is 00:37:39 your business. And unless you, a friend asks you for advice. Dude, won't. What device? Next!

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