Dissect DJs - Madonna - Papa Don't Preach

Episode Date: August 11, 2022

80's month rolls on with one of the decade's all-time icons - Madonna, as we break down the deep and some would say controversial backstory of her 1986 classic "Papa Don't Preach". Also, Danny Aiello, a whole lot of Danny Aiello. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Papa don't preach. And that song gets pretty deep, pretty quick, even though the beat's amazing. What's going on, Steeze? Featuring the epic Danny Iello in the music video who's playing her dad who doesn't seem to age her entire life. I don't know you notice that. Yeah, yeah, he was.

He's literally, I feel like he's even wearing the same shirt in like all of the clips. They have, so Madonna, you know, this song's obviously about a woman's relationship with her father and, like, him approves. of who she dates and everything. But they're jumping around from her as a, you know, modern day young woman to then they show her as like a young girl and he's like telling her to eat her food and then he's like playing with her to yard when she's young. He's the same man in every single one. Danny I yellow from Do the Right Thing, Fame and also Peter Griffin's penis in an episode of Family Guy. I don't know if you ever saw that, but it's what they do

cutaway. Like, this is going to be weird than the time you refer to your penis as Danny I And then he just keeps calling his penis Danny I yellow. I know, it was amazing. Much better than that night you pretended your penis was Danny Ayello. Oh, that is so interesting, Danny Ayello. You've got the best Spike Lee stories. What's yet? You want to meet my wife.

Peter, stop it. I always just say hello. You're embarrassing me in front of Danny Ayello. That's this guy. But I do want to talk about the fact that apparently Danny Ayello, after his daughter approaches him with some pretty deep information as far as the fact that she

all assumptions aside is pregnant from this guy with fantastic looking eyes in any case he decides to give her cold shoulder and almost treat her like she means nothing to him even though he seemed like a single father

and grew her up all the way until this point and she had the strength and trust to approach him and tell him, and he just walked away like it meant shit to him. That's dad's for you, Justin. Oh, there you go. I guess fucking lame dads that don't know how to, you know, listen to their children when they approach them with a certain situation

and trying to help them rather than... I know what it is. You know what it is? That's 80s month for you, Justin. Because it is 80s month. Track 2. Soundbite. And we are the DJs that like to spin it, mix it, throw it back, and dissect it.

DJ Castle. DJ Jag? Yep. Ready to mix up another one. And as we mentioned earlier, we were doing, Papa Don't Preach by Madonna, released in 1986. And can I just say this is like, this is prime Madonna right here. This is like when she's really, like, she's a superstar by this point. And she's just working it on all cylinders.

When she's doing that little dance moves in, like, the studio where she's kind of wearing, like, tight-liot-thart thing with her little blonde hair. Oh, the Sandy dress? Not the Sandy dress, the one? Oh, you mean like the end of the movie Sandy from Greece? Yeah, yeah. It's inspired, I would say, yeah. It's actually the Sandy look modified to meet the 80s standards because of, like, her hair.

Sandy's got much more of sort of throwback. I guess that was like 60s look. But you see the resemblance of what I was talking about. It's definitely inspired. Yeah, yeah. That looks right there. Red lipstick. You know, all she needs is a cigarette and then throw it on the ground and then stomp on it.

And boom. Yeah, and Madonna was just a fantastic dancer at this point, too, man. Like, she could really work it. And then she ends up apparently cornered the video, hooking up with a mechanic, a local mechanic. Again, fantastic eyes. And this guy is smart. This is a great-looking guy. The guy she ends up getting with, that she ends up obviously getting impregnated by.

Good-looking guy. I don't know his name. I'm going to call him Roger. I want to guess that Roger is also Italian because when he first meets her. they're like walking out of a park and then she's just standing there and they lock eyes and they smile at each other and uh madonna is notably wearing a shirt that says italians do it better so it's very possible isn't she italian is she i don't get italian vibes from her but you know what actually not i'm thinking about it when i think of like madonna and a league of their own she does give off

some italian vibes there all the way may she looks italian maybe if she has like dark hair i guess i could see it, which I think is her natural color. So it's definitely not this peroxide blonde thing that she was doing here. But yeah, it works. You know? So. But Donna absolutely killed in the age. She's not only at this track. And the only reason we wanted to focus on this track is it has a backstory of this, you know,

absolutely unhelpful father with his girlfriend's. Anyway, his daughter that's coming to him. Very important information. He's just given it the cold sword like an asshole. She also had many a tracks. Let's go down. She had, like a virgin. Just like a prayer. Lucky Star

Get into the groove Get into the groove Holiday Holiday Just to name a few And all those I'm burning up Burning up for your love

Yeah and these are all like 80s tracks right there 80s track And just really kept the hits Going back to back To back to back Early 80s And so

Just Like a virgin There's a reason Why she was the 80s One of at least One of the 80s Main 80s Female stars

That took it to a whole other level And kept going through the 90s until she got a little bit weird and then, you know, started making out with Drake on stage and... I don't even know what you're talking about her. She made all the couple different people on stage and she, like, ran away. She got, she definitely really embraced her sexuality in the 90s and, like, made that a whole part of her thing.

Like, yeah. It's like, almost too late. I remember her doing it early 2000. She got to go on. It was like, you know what, Madonna, it's okay to relax, you know? Gracefully. Go to the side or just leave. Don't even gracefully.

Just fucking. I kind of feel like she has now because I haven't seen her since she, like saying the Super Bowl halftime show like 10 years ago. I think I saw her recently like dating 50 cents or some show. I don't know. I don't know what it is. That's very possible. I can totally see that happening on both fronts.

I got to say though, when I'm looking up the genius lyrics as we're about to have to tackle the lyrics here to see exactly what's going on on Papa Don't Preach, even though I think we have an idea just based on the name and the music video we just described. This is the quick description of the song, which I think is interesting. Madonna's controversial hit, hated by. many, including feminist and loved by others, was inspired by gossiping teenagers, overheard by songwriter Brian Elliott. So that's just the first sentence of the description. So it's kind of interesting that it's literally referred to as hated by many, especially feminists. So it's kind of

weird because I feel like this song sort of stands up for women's rights and to kind of like choose to what you want to do. Yeah, I agree. You know, I don't know. Maybe I guess because at that time it was controversial for a woman to speak on this kind of stuff and put it out in artistic form or something. And make up their mind that they're going to keep their own baby and have the right to do so. Yeah, I don't, very... Yeah, I get, you know, Madonna, we've got to say, has never shied away from controversy. And I think, you know, doing a song like this is one of...

At the time, it was probably one of the more controversial things. But as I just said, in the 90s, and then she's, like, literally putting out an entire picture book called sex, where it's just a bunch of, like, different photos of her having seen. sex and stuff like that. So she definitely wore the controversy hat proudly all through her career, but I guess it starts here. So let's go ahead and jump through the lyrics and see if there's anything in the hidden messaging that we haven't already covered. But once again, as we just mentioned, Madonna, huge superstar in the 80s, was really probably like a hottest property at this time when it comes to the music biz. So of course we had to cover her when it comes to the dissect DJ's 80s.

month. All right, Papa, I know you're going to be upset because I was always your little girl, but you should know by now, I'm not a baby. You always taught me right from wrong. I need your help, Daddy, please be strong. I may be young at heart, but I know what I'm saying. Even more so that this girls are literally coming to her dad and like really coming deep, like dad, I fucked up, help me. And literally in the video, the dad just walks away and stops talking to her like don't do this dad's okay yeah your daughter my messed up and yeah you're gonna be like dealing with a grandchild here shortly and have to deal with that world but hey you signed up for that today 17 years ago when you decided to have her you don't know what's gonna happen

in your future so don't do this dads be understandable listen to your daughters and uh help them do this because this is a crazy time don't be this fucking ass what was his name again hey that's just danny i yellow being danny i yellow fucking that's how he that's that's his gruff nature man that's how he carries himself you know know he's not here for your i'm gonna keep my baby shit so let's get to that course the one you warned me all about okay so there you go so he warned her about her he's like hey that guy's trouble he's a mechanic he's got the guard size he had a job going i see the way he eyeballs everybody and whistles at him as they go past i don't know about that character look this guy yeah makes

sense madonna the one you said i could do without we're in an awful mess and i don't mean maybe Please. And her friends ain't helping her. Her dad ain't listening to her. She's just asking everybody for help. I ain't nobody having her back. What is up with this group of friends around Madonna at this point? This is terrible.

I looked it up and Madonna is Italian. And that explains why in a legal of her own, she plays a character name, Mae Morabito. Super Italian. That makes sense. Straight Italian, yeah. Yeah, you know, even as a kid,

I used to think of this movie and like, Papa, don't breach. trouble deep, but she's made up her mind, she's having her baby. It always seemed like a very deep song of a daughter talking to her father and her father basically saying, like trying to to basically preach to her, like a lot of dads

do, me like, no, you shouldn't be done, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you know what? Don't preach to me right now. Don't fucking think, just help me. Just fucking guide me on this. Don't preach to me and tell me I already fucked up. I already fucked up. Fuck out of here. Fuck you. Dad.

Her dad. This feels like it's getting in person. It did. I need a second I need a second I need a second All right Let me pick up the scraps

I know I'm crying about shit about my dad thing It's already been done once On the Dasik DJ's podcast I don't need to keep doing Go to the corner Sit in the corner With Embrocious

All right I gotta say though This guy Based on her description It sounds like he's a good dude you know he says he's going to marry her they can raise a little family he's a mechanic has a job sacrifice and every time they show him in this video he's got a big smile on his face like he's so happy to see her you know maybe they're younger than the you know what they were they're looking to

you know create this situation but that happens this is a very realistic situation that has happened to a lot of young women's lives and i think you know you make a great point in that you know this isn't a great time to shun me and to like make me feel bad about where I'm at in life and what's going on and give me your whole preaching vibe I'm past that I'm past that I'm looking for like shit I already feel like shit I'm looking for help dad I need some assistance I need I'm yeah guess what I'm also going to need you to do some babysitting I know you're going to be pissed off about that but you're going to like you're going to end up with like this beautiful little grandchild and you're going to end up loving him or her too like you know it's going to be part of the family and you're going to have to embrace that and it's going to be a beautiful thing all things that. considered. A lot of work. A lot of work. But you know what? Papa.

I don't need you to preach him here right now. You know what I'm saying? Fuck you, Dad. You're right, Castle. In no way does she ever say that he's abusing or being rude or disrespectful. As a matter of fact, he says he's making her happy.

He's always there for her. Daddy, if you saw, you would be okay with her thing. Like, don't preach to me. Like, what is wrong with this dad? Everything about this guy seems fine, actually. He has a job. He's there for her.

He makes his daughter happy. What else are you asking for? Dad. I know. Mr. I, what, Mr. Ayello. Mr. Ayello.

Danny I yellow. What else do you want, Mr. Ayaleo? Like, what else do you want from your... Whatever, man. Yeah, you're being too much. And don't you ever diss your daughter if she brings you some heavy information of which she's not even telling you that the guy has left and she's a single mother now.

She's just telling you, oh, I got pregnant a little early, but I got to tell you, he's treating me well. We're happy together, and he has a job. What? Yeah. And it sounds like... It's a very confusing song, Katzik. I never realized that the guy was...

And she describes him being legit. And the video shows, he's legit. There's no problem with this guy. Yeah, it seems like he's ready to, like, take on this whole father thing. Yeah, he's ready to go. Headstrong. He's ready to run right into it like a wave in the Pacific. And he's just going to dive right through it.

Like, oh, you know what? It's time to sack it up, get my tool belt. put his mechanic skills to use and a different foundation and be like now the way I put these cars together I got to put a young life together and build that and make it strong

some cliche dad way of looking at things I like it exactly I agree I got to say also I'm looking at Danny I yellow in this video he does feel like a guy who looked like 45 when he was like 15 probably like I can't imagine that guy ever being young

he seems like somebody who's just been like 48 for like 30 years. I can see that. And I don't even know what he looks like. I bet you he looks the same now. So I do believe that when... That might be the reason why. The girl was young and he just kind of always looked that same.

You know, some people, they just look like... Yeah. They look like they're... Yeah, but fuck Danny Ayala. He did not look out for his daughter, Madonna. Don't you dare curse Danny Ayiello when he's just playing the role of the dad. And you know what? It was a good casting gig.

I think they cast the right guy for this video. And according to you, they also cast the... the right role for the dad to be. Oh, man, he was fantastic looking. Everybody watched the video from this guy. I don't know what ethnicity, but he has long hair, fantastic eyes, and his smile is to die for. We need to look up that actor.

Is that what you're trying to sneak up here? Fantastic. Other than that, I just want to kind of say, Madonna, heavy hitter of the 80s, had to make sure we gave her a spotlight as well as let you know that this isn't our only track. It was just the best one for us to kind of go over what was happening in the track.

at least 10 to 12 tracks of just heavy 80 strong dance tracks that if you put on right now Castle and I'll be like oh what I get our dance on I literally just typed into Google who's the actor in Papa Don't Preach and you know how Google just gives you an answer at the top and usually it would just say the name but it gave me more than that this is the Google's general description of the actor in Papa Don't Preach Alex MacArthur had to no idea that playing Madonna's grease monkey boyfriend in Papa Don't Preach video would change his career.

Damn, Google. Yeah, I just dug in on his ass. You're labeling them grease monkey on like the top line of Google. Grease monkey. He didn't even, like, betray a grease monkey. He was just an Italian guy that happened to me a mechanic. And it was a little dirty because he just could all work. He's cleaning out.

He's checking oil. Is that what a grease monkey is, a mechanic? I mean, I've heard that term before, yeah. Is that disrespectful? Sounds like it to me. It sounds like it's disrespectful. I'm not a mechanic, so I don't know how that term is taken in the mechanic field. But I almost feel like since we're covering Madonna on 80s month,

we almost just got to like throw one more 80s Madonna track in there just to like give her some of the proper love that 80s Madonna deserves. Right, well, I'll throw on my favorite start to it. We're just going to hear the beginning. Let's just hear the beginning. Because I got my favorite too. I actually want to give that some play. Ready for it?

Yep. I'm going to give you mine. And you let me know a few yours. If not, I will listen to yours. It will just, you know, just give a sample. My favorite Madonna song. Matter of fact, my mom used to wake me up to this because she used to start playing music

before I got up in the mornings, and then I have to listen to her, get ready for 30 minutes. And this was the first track of her 18-track cassette tape that she had or whatever how many songs. I think she might have had seven or whatever was. But this was number one, and I'd have to hear it every morning.

and it woke me up for at least four years of my light. Here we go. Now, wait a minute, before we start that, isn't that a great sound I wake up to? It is. I honestly didn't mind waking up to it. It was just annoying to hear the same song over and over. But let's listen to it again.

This is me waking up. It soothes your brain. Yeah, that's good. Anyway, back to the beat. Here we go. I'm going to try to go. Main lyrics, here we go. I missed it.

Here we go. My favorite. Lucky Star by Madonna. It was an excellent choice. It's funny that you said that that was a good song to wake up too. I had a CD alarm clock when I was in, like, in high school. So I used to like burn CDs that I could then put in there. And I remember like my favorite CD to wake up to was track one was Bone Thugs.

Wake up, wake up, wake up. It's a chance to wake up. What is your, what is your, I know why you always say it's your chance to wake up. It's the first of the month, same of the song. Oh, whatever. It's close enough. All right.

mine is there's two right at the top I'm going to pick one I'm going to have to go yeah let's go with this one yeah did we even get to the part where she says getting in the groove I feel like

right at the beginning of the song it says getting to you know damn that one always works for me that one fires me right? No clearly because you wanted to keep listening to it even though we said let's listen to the beginnings you were like no no keep it playing and you actually wanted to hear like another

45 seconds. No, I just wanted to get back to get in the groove because I am in the groove. She didn't even get me in the groove. I'm already in the groove. Every time I hear that song. I also love music video because it has all these clips from a movie. It seems like something of a movie that she was in. So I finally looked it up one time and just watched it. It's called Desperately Seeking Susan. And I was super stoked to finally watch it because I was so familiar with a video. And I was like, I got to see what all these clips are from. And you don't really need to watch it. Oh, yeah, it's that bad at a movie? It's fine.

I guess Madonna's okay in it. Like, she's good at playing her character, you know? She's sort of like a little bit of a con artist, and she's kind of doing it. But like, the thing is Madonna, I think this is, this for me is peak Madonna. I love her look in this era right here, where she sort of has the longer hair, sort of blonde hair with the darker roots and everything. That's when she was absolutely killing it for me. But the whole, the movie is much like the,

video is just a series of different clips like thrown together. That's how the movie felt. Like it just was a sequence of scenes that you're just kind of like, I feel like they shot this out of order and they ended up just throwing it together like the way they could. It's, it's a, you know, classic 80s movie that wasn't really, I don't think workshop that well. They had a general idea and they're like, I just start shooting scenes. And they're like, I think we can make a film out of this and it's kind of a whole mess. But anyways, that is my- movie for sure. That's my number one. It's definitely not a shitty music video. Yeah, Donna'd looking great. And it.

gets you dancing every time. There's no way I'm not on the dance floor if Madonna tells me to get in the groove. That's where I'm at right now. So, let's, we're not slapping out that or shine like a star. What was yours called? Shining Star.

Lucky Star, yeah. Lucky Star, sir. We are giving. Get it right. But yes. I guess just slap and snap. We're doing Papa don't preach. Papa don't preach.

I don't want Papa to preach at us. All right. You know what? I'll give it. Yeah. Not her best song. And the story actually pissed me off because of how disrespectful and un-giving, unsupportive.

Unfather-like? And father-like. This fucking ass. Not very fatherly, yeah. So fuck this dad. And then, you know, and then shout out to Madonna for stepping up for herself and saying, you know what, this guy treats me right? I like him.

He likes me. And we got pregnant early. I'm keeping it. And we're doing this. to you. She picked, it was her choice and she decided to fuck you, dad, for not for being rude about it. So yeah, in all honesty, I've always kind of had a little thing with this story of like,

wait a minute, what is happening? And I'm finally glad I got to figure out that the guy that she's preaching, that she doesn't want dad to preach about is actually a good guy. So fuck you, dad. Three slaps. So, Jag gives it a three slaps and a fuck you dad. Yes. All right. and I'm going to give it a

three slaps and a new it's an easy call it's an easy three slapper it's not quite up into that four slap territory that getting into the groove is for me or even Holiday that was the other one I was debating between another epic Madonna jam

got to give Madonna jam shouts out in 80s month excellent song I love the backbeat I actually think that song it's actually probably totally been remixed plenty of times it's ripe for a remix though The backbeat carries it. It has a great 80s sound.

And Madonna sounds fantastic. Also, Madonna dances fantastically. Nobody does this move, you know, like this over the heads where they kind of shake their lower half back and forth better. That move that's like her signature move. A lot of dancers have borrowed that move from Madonna over the years. And I think she may have invented it. So, hey, Madonna, she's a pioneer. She started the 80s pop sound.

She started the movement of standing up for yourself when you want to keep your base. and you know telling your dad you know what maybe you don't always know what's best for me because I'm gonna start a family and she revolutionized the whole peroxide blonde hair and the uh bravely owning your own sexuality that is why madonna is our early runner for 80s superstar of the month next