Dissect DJs - Notorious B.I.G - Mo Money Mo Problems (Feat. Mase and Puff Daddy)

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

We break down Castle's once all-time favorite jam circa '97 as we tap into P-Diddy's Bad Boy masterpiece w/ Biggie and Mase - "Mo Money Mo Problems". Prompting the question- does m...ore money really equal more problems? And is sampling old school jams on a track genius producing or lazy hip hop? It's time to dissect these lyrics and finally figure it out once and for all. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:05 You know what time it is, it's time for the die. I said DJ. Hey! If I said DJ, DJs, DJs, just go on! Now, who's hot, who not? Tell me who rock. Who sell out in the stores? You tell me who flop.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Who copped the blue drop, who juice drop, who joos drop, box? Who's mostly dope? The same old pimped. Mace, you know ain't nothing changed but my limp. Can't stop, so I see my name on a blimp. Guarantee me, itself, for the love of luck. We don't play around It's a bad lay it down
Starting point is 00:00:41 Niggins didn't know me 91 Bet they know me now I'm the young hollam Nickas hold me down Cooter school me to the game Now I know my duty Stay humble, stay low blow like woody True pim niggas
Starting point is 00:00:54 Been no dough on a booty We're doing it It's time to talk about it Doing Castle's favorite song Circa pretty much all through the late 90s But what are we with the diocese They like to We are the DJ
Starting point is 00:01:27 impact like to spit it mix it throw it back and dissect it because we are the dissect Dasek
Starting point is 00:01:37 Dijee J, DJ Jag DJ Castesi about to break down Castle's apparently favorite song if not top three songs but he's gonna go ahead and say
Starting point is 00:01:45 it might be his favorite All right so you know how Give us a back to You know how you come up with a song That's like Well like your favorite
Starting point is 00:01:51 Anything All right When people ask you Here's your favorite What's your favorite movie What's your favorite song Goonies? The mask.
Starting point is 00:02:00 He's just named two, so I already need... Willow. Willow, I believe, because you always talk up Willow. But the fact is, like, okay, so you come up with these answers, as you're approving, you come up with something from, like, your young age, like, that just becomes ingrained in your answer as, like, that's your favorite thing. I'll give you a great example right now. My three, I just gave.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I really get those friends. As I'm looking at this picture of Denise Richards on the wall that's been there for fucking ever. Why is it the only picture of any of random? I don't know who decorated us. garage with that one little like piece of a magazine picture it's just got put there somebody thought it would go good there and it's supposed to this day whenever anybody says like who do you think it's like the hottest girl ever i still literally just resort to like the answer that i gave when i was like 13 12 which is Carmen Elektra I always thought Carmen lecture is now luckily
Starting point is 00:02:51 she actually aged well to the point she looks did you see the last dance did you see it in last dance she looks better than ever oh my god car If you're listening to this, you should... Hit us up at 555-4621. You hit up the Dysic DJs on a low DM, you know? Instagram. It's probably the better way because that number is fake. I don't know if you guys ever knows that or called it.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I hope you know why I say 5-55. Anyways. Point is, you don't change your answers much on like your favorite. Because like, it's just the thing that you don't like prioritize as much like as you get older. But like when you're like 1213, like you are in top of like what your favorite movie is. What's your favorite song is. who the hottest girl in the world is.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So, like, for the longest time, when you asked me what my favorite song was, like, this was my answer, because I was so into it when it came out. And it just kind of, like, never got top. Like, I never came up with it. I think Rosa Parks had a good run there with Outcast. I think eventually knocked it off because I was super an Outcast, like, around that time. I met a Gypsy, and she hit me to some live game. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So, yeah, this was just always, like, for the longest time, like, for a good stretch was my favorite song. And it just stands. Like, I just love everything going on with this jam. So, I'm elated to finally actually get to bring this up to the Dysect DJ audience. I'm like, let's figure out what the fuck is going on in this one. Now, we, in the previous episode, we did discuss that this is a sample of multiple different songs. We come to find, really, it's just a sample of one heavy hitter. Diana Ross.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I'm coming out. I'm coming out. Right when she hits the beat. I'm coming out. I'm coming out. I mean, okay, we should give that some proper play right now. Here is the sample that makes this song possible. Run it.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, that's a great song. Is that song about coming out of the closet, you think? I mean, that's what it has implications to. I think that's what's meant to be. However, it's one of those songs we should probably break down in the future and, you know, find out exactly what. I mean, if there's ever a time we're going to break it down, it's probably here. It should be our next song? Should we do that song, too?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Are we doing like a double? If it's always, we just keep playing that one and then go back to our... I don't want to step on the toes of more many more problems right now, though. Like, that song deserves its own. I'm saying, like, right now, I think we could just do a little quick, like, a little blanket. Well, I don't know the lyrics of... I mean, she's saying I'm coming out. I'm with the world to know.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Maybe she's just coming out of the door and ready for life today. Like, she's going to... I don't think she meant for it to be... I'm coming... Because Dan & Ross wasn't gay, so, like, I don't think that's what it's meant for. But I think that a lot of gay people have probably used that as, like, great anthem. I mean, it is that, but I don't know, like you said,
Starting point is 00:06:24 I don't know if that's necessarily what she was referring to. So I'm saying. I don't think it was meant to be, but it became that. There's a new me coming out, and I just want to live, and I just have to give. I'm completely positive. And we just give props to Diddy on finding that. Like, I think if there's one thing that he was amazing at as a producer,
Starting point is 00:06:43 is finding some, not even that obscure, but somewhat obscure, like, just jams from the past and, like, figuring out how he, he can turn that into a modern hip-hop beat. He just used basically an old song and then fucking put it a hip-hop artist. But he knew how to, no, but he, like, reworked his whole fucking beat. Come on. He didn't take that. He took that fucking guitar and he turned it in a hip-hop beat,
Starting point is 00:07:04 and he knows exactly when it hit that, like, right there when it's just like, bum-bamp-de-bamp-bamp coming. Wow. Like, he hits that right. I don't know. You're instinct is to not give people credit for anything. I just wish he was a natural artist. Like, and I have to do that, oh, hear that song?
Starting point is 00:07:19 I'm going to turn that into this. Why don't you just make your own shit? That's an element of producing this good. Anything he did make was... He... Stop doing that in the background, please. He had... I saw this documentary once where he had this crew that was called the Hitman.
Starting point is 00:07:34 He literally brought them to, I want to say Jamaica. And he literally was just like, we're going to be in this hut and we're going to work on looking through old music and we're going to come up with beats. And we're going to like just stay here nowhere to go until we make jams. And that set up all the stuff that he came out with on his album, Biggie, Mace, all of the people that like popped off in like 97 all happened from that one trip. And like one of the ones that I love that they figured out was like the Benjamin's was a Barry White song.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And somebody heard the kind of backbeat of it. You know, it's all about the Benjamins. And he realized, oh, if you take this beat, slow it down and turn it backwards. And it made this amazing sound that it. is that kind of like, you know how the Benjamins has that sort of like... I don't know that song. Let's listen to it real quick. Benjamins, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 What's it called? All about the Benjamins. Uh-huh, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah. It's all about the Benjamins, babe. Uh-huh, yeah. It's all about the Borders. Want to beat ballers.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Shot callers, brawlers. We'll be dipping in the Benz. Okay, so that was all about the Benjim's, and Diddy got that from this song from Barry White's group, Love Unlimited, called it was it called i did it for love let's hear it pretty genius sampling right that's pretty good and if you listen to it slow it down and reverse it without the singers coming in you can actually hear that doom do do which would then incorporate the which is why you hear that sound and all about the
Starting point is 00:09:52 benjamin's which is dope and it's like which just somehow makes it even doper beats so that's what i mean like did he was right up there at the top as far as like finding classic beats and like figuring out a way to finagle them and like repurpose them. And I think that's what we did right here with this Diana Ross beat. That song was great. As we just went over the last episode, redoing old songs can be a sketchy situation and try to like, do. Like, especially if a song is already a classic,
Starting point is 00:10:20 and I just think that Diddy could do that as good as anybody. You know, I know you're going to want to hate him, but like this, take this. I just wish you did his own shit. Made his own shit, too. But, I don't know. Shit never made it. His personal shit never made it that he did himself. I'm not going to go down and did discography, but like I want to focus on my own money more problems because that shit is a bangor.
Starting point is 00:10:43 However, we already hit the first rap of this thing. Dude, I got to be honest. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. It's just a lot of, I've never been a big rap. No. Who's not? Where I pay attention to what they're trying to say. You tell them who's out.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I know. I know. I hear you saying all that, but I'm just saying like. I know you're right. It's one of those ones. Okay, so this is one of those songs. I think I talked about in a previous. episode too. I wanted to learn the lyrics of this song and I just played it over and over again
Starting point is 00:11:09 and I just went through with the notepad because again, pre-internet, that's a dinosaur myself, but pre-internet, that was how we had to figure out lyrics. We had to literally just listen to it and write it down and then rewind it and go back. And so there's a bunch of lyrics that I'm sure that I wrote wrong in my 10-year-old self. So let's hear what he actually said. Are we going through all of it, dude? Because it's a lot to go. I think we're At least, start for the beginning at least because, like, those are the lyrics that are from my house. Now, who's hot? Who's not?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Tell me who rock. Who sell out in stores? Tell me who's hot. Who got the... You tell me who flopped. Tell me who flopped. Who copped the blue drop? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about still.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Who's Joe's got rocks? I still remember at my notepad at home when I was a kid, I wrote, who got the Jew blot? Which doesn't make sense, but that's how I heard it. You went straight races with it. That's funny. I mean, you can call it that. That's what I heard. Dole say down to the tube sock.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Same old pimp. Mace, you know, and ain't nothing changed but my limp. Because stop. Now he's limping. No, he's lipping. I told you all. Anyway, it's just a fool talking about himself and that he's the shit.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It's all he's doing. Generally, I'm the shit verse and shit, you know, talking about how he's topping the charts and shit. And he's beating PhDs and those folks can't hold him down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, say that line? I mean, because I heard the... I never actually knew what he said there. This is actually very educated.
Starting point is 00:12:32 for me. Go all the way down to I'm the Young Harlem. Because he's from Harlem. He's called his out. No, Harlem World. From that part, go into the rap. Like, you know it. Let me hear you.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Go. Which part? Okay, so, don't play around. It's a bit. Lay it down. They don't know me, 91. Bet they know me now. I'm the Young Harlem with a golden sound.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Can't know T&D hold me down. Could it. Can't know Ph.D. Holy. Okay. Skil me to the game. Man on my duty. Stay humble, stay low.
Starting point is 00:13:01 blow-black foodie true pimp spend no dough on the foodie there you go mace spend no dough on the booty oh okay they got your your sound about it was so nice i know no my 10 year old brain is so innocent and then something about there you go you go you're cutie right there you go yo there you go mace there you go your cutie yeah yeah we should just do this this way like i rap from like the original way that i like yeah that sounds dope so next verse we'll do that I wanted you to rap what you know we can let him sing it then I want you to rap it like you know and then I'll correct what you're wrong right right that sounds do it and we'll we'll figure out how actually just do you first
Starting point is 00:13:37 then we'll hear the actual version yeah yeah so next thing kind of want to hear it first I know you do but I wanted you do it I don't know what they want from me is not the more problems with the comfortable most energy and then I'm the D O D O D to the A to the D D D Y know you'd rather see me fly than I see me die I call all the shots call rather see me die than to see me fly that's what I said he went opposite but it's okay I yeah keep we going Probably. I don't hear him do it. Exactly. And then it'll be fresh in my mind.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I haven't listened to song on a minute. Rip all the spots, rock all the rocks. 10 years from now, we'll still be on top. Yo, I thought I told you that we won't stop. Now, what you're going through much longer than yours? And a team much stronger than yours. Valet me, this a B-O-Day. We don't play.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Mess around. Be D-O-A-B on your way. Because it ain't enough time. There ain't enough lime here for you to shine here. Deal with many women, but treats down's fit. and I'm bigger than the city life down in Times Square. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, we got to cut out before that
Starting point is 00:15:15 because we are about to be graced with the ultimate Third Verse Hall of Fame entry. Now, if you're a long-time Dicec DJ listener, you've heard me go on several times about the Third Verse Hall of Fame. And this right here is what began the entire Third Verse industry, I feel like. Notorious BIG is about. to crush this entire verse. Like, goddamn Barry Bonds crushing a baseball into the bay. He's about to crush this shit.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Like me stepping on a can that needs to get tossed in the recycling bin. He's about to crush this shit. Like that girl in second grade that you always had a crush on. You never quite had the inkling to talk to you wanted to, but you never really did. But your crush grew that much more because you never had the balls to say anything about it. That's how much he's about to crush this first. I agree with you. However, can I just, let's go back to what the name of the song real quick?
Starting point is 00:16:15 My Money, More Problems. In no way has there been any problem at any point in this song. These fools just keep talking about how they rock all the rocks. They're on the yacht if you can't get a hold of them. If you mess in me, you're going to be DOA. There's no problems being discussed in this entire song. I just wanted to say that the Dysect DJs, at least one of them, and I'm hoping to kind of sell this on my other Diasect DG,
Starting point is 00:16:38 just found out that this song isn't even talking about what the fuck the title's talking about. You got more money, you're better off. Never does you talk about problems in this entire fucking song. You want to know why that is,
Starting point is 00:16:51 just, you know. Yeah, hit me. Because right now it says more money more problems and there's not a single fucking problem. What?
Starting point is 00:16:55 What? Because there's no extra problems, right? Honestly. Once you get money, you don't get any more problems. Get more money. People want to always do that shit.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You get more money and you find random rash reasons to be calling problems. Yeah, yeah. Get the fuck out of here. You're probably. Problemist becomes, oh, my garbage disposal is not working now. Oh, my maid can't show up this week because she has an issue.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, like, it's just like, like, random, not problems like, oh, shit, I don't know how I'm supposed to pay rent this month. How am I going to eat? You know, like, oh, my God, we're not eating filets. We're eating New York cut tonight. They're new problems. Get the fuck out of here. Mo money brings new problems. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And you try to act like you had more fucking. problems because of the money, it's only you putting yourself into those problems. Period. Fuck you if you think you get more money. More people ask me for money. Don't give them money. Shut the fuck up. Like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Money, more money. All these people with their hands out. Even in the song, they don't even refer to problems at any point. So go fuck yourself. Fuck you if you got more money and you act like you have more problems because of it. Because you're bullshitting yourself. Cut your bills. Slow the fuck down.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You'll be fine. Okay? You can eat. You're actually right. I never thought about it, but like this song is not about problems in any way. It's very much a celebration of life and just having money and partying with it. More money. And just partying with it.
Starting point is 00:18:16 It's all about that. Yeah. We dissected that. Why they say more problems? Who knows? They just fucking do that's a title. Because Biggie's about to talk about all the shit that he gets into. So yeah, I want to, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Should we not even waste time on Did he's first? I'm trying to refer is that Mace talked about being blowing up and killing shit. Yeah. He didn't go Diddy. He talks about doing that shit too where he gets rocks and fucking call the drops and Rips all the shots You're killing shit And then now we're about to hear Biggie
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like you said Do the ultimate third verse Of you're killing shit Two Of which none of these three Have problems whatsoever They don't talk They don't discuss any problems
Starting point is 00:18:50 Alright so should we Try to break down this one though Because the first I actually don't know It's one of those verses I've been rapping for years Alright let's do it first B-I-G
Starting point is 00:18:57 B-O PPA Spouse out Big Papa right there No info What's up D-EA He ain't telling the drug people No shit
Starting point is 00:19:05 Federal agents Mad because I'm flagrant tap myself and my phone in the basement. Tap myself and the phone in the basement. And tap myself. Okay. My team supreme. Double D. Stay clean.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Triple beam. Lyrical dream. I be that. Cat you see on all the events bent. Gats and holsters. Girls on shoulders. Playboy, I told you.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Me and Mike's demean. Crews too much. I move too much. Brews too much. That makes sense. Step on stage. Bruce. Like he bruised too much.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He beats people up. Oh. And then he says, Step on stage. the girls boo too much? What does he say right there? I'm actually curious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Step on stage. The girls boo too much. Wow, that's weird. I see, you know, that's one of those ones where he's, like,
Starting point is 00:19:48 how he's, like, an ugly dude. He was big on that. He was that kind of dude. He was just like, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:52 He used to talk about when he was, like, younger, and now he doesn't deal with that shit anymore. Which is, again, going against the title with a fucking problem.
Starting point is 00:20:00 The thing, you got more money and you don't deal with this shit anymore. You don't deal with drugs, booing. Now nobody's calling you More problems my ass
Starting point is 00:20:07 I guess it's because you run it with the lame dudes too much Me lose my touch never that If I did ain't a problem to get the gap where the true player's at Throw your rollies in the sky Wave them side to side and keep your hands high While I give a girl die Player please liver glees Ceregley B IGB Flossin
Starting point is 00:20:26 Big on the cover of Fortune 5-OO That's my phone number of your man I got to know I got the flow I got the fade down Trisack Platinum Plus like Isaac dangerous like Isak
Starting point is 00:20:36 Keep your ass Trisack Dica tica tae So I know I said a bunch of shit wrong there But that's just how I wrote down You were really fucking close to it So I'm just gonna go all the way down Because you had it pretty good All the way down to
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's what you really crush it That's when Biggie hits his stride right there No but I got the flow Pizzat Pizzat That's literally what says it on my lyrics Pizzat Platinum plus
Starting point is 00:20:58 Like Fizzat Which That's what I've been saying for you Dangerous on the Trisax Leave your on the fizzat. Keep your ass, Chizak.
Starting point is 00:21:08 All right, so he wasn't actually saying anything. I was saying it right. You were saying, you wrote it correctly. So good job. It's rare. Usually it's, usually I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:21:17 I was like writing down like, another word for like a racial term or some kind of booze or like another term for a ho. Yeah, I didn't. And my innocent 10 year old brain just wrote down what I heard and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:29 it worked. Yeah. Yeah. So basically he's talking about, you know, he doesn't talk. to the DEA. He has guns if he needs to
Starting point is 00:21:36 fucking fuck somebody up. He throws everybody throw your rallies in the sky, wave him side to side. Wait, but I always wondered like when is he talking about when he says,
Starting point is 00:21:45 weigh your rallies. Like what, what is he talking about? Rolexes. Oh shit. There you go. Yeah, really,
Starting point is 00:21:52 Rolex is in the sky, yeah. I always thought he was like, like, is that always calling fingers? Or it could be like Bluntz. Like he rolled up blunts. Is that like roly fingers,
Starting point is 00:22:00 you know? No, I mean, it's not. It most likely it's Rolex fucking thing, but it could be Rollies Blunts. I think it might be Blunts, actually. That's actually, either way, it's fucking dope. It could be both.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's fucking dope. Like, you have to be Roli with the blunt. God damn. Biggie knows how to write a fucking verse. But yeah, again, going back to my title's fucking bullshit. All right, but let's just, we got to listen to Biggie Kill it, because this is the inventor of the 3rd Verse Hall of Fame. Soundbite, go. B.I.G. Hit us.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Cause I'm flagrant, tap myself and a phone in the basement My team, Supreme, stay clean, Triple B, miracle dream I beat at, catch a seat at all events bent Gats and holsters, girls on shoulders, play what, I told ya, me and mics to me, grew too much, I lose too much, step on stage, the girls booed too much, I guess it's fucking wrong with lame, dudes too much.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Me lose my touch, never that, if I did, ain't no problem and get the gap where the true players at. Throw your roadies in the sky, waving side to side, You gotta keep your hands high All I You a girl a I Player please Lyrically
Starting point is 00:23:07 Nig EG B-IG B-Flarsing Jig on the cover A fortune Five double A hit my phone number Your man I got to know
Starting point is 00:23:14 I got the dough That the flow Down Pizzat Platinum Plus Like Vizzat Dangerous On Trisack Do your ass
Starting point is 00:23:21 Pissac You have money And you have no problems This should be My money No problems Oh that Actually works
Starting point is 00:24:08 But like People don't want to hear that Should we That's why Was more money, no problems. Should we turn the music down and discuss this? Yes. The title of this song should be
Starting point is 00:24:20 Mo money, no problems. I guarantee that's what it was initially. And they were like, yo, people don't like that, though. They don't like that. Mo money, no problems, yeah. They're just like, oh, what, you think you better than me? Yeah, so more money, more problems. They were like.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Puff Daddy? Call yourself Puff Teddy. Why the fuck is that? Yeah, but more money, more problems. I'm with you. We all got problems. You've actually thinking about the fact that, like, Sean Combs went with Puff Daddy is like,
Starting point is 00:24:43 his artist name or whatever. He actually landed on that. Like, I could see that being like a name that your boys call you. Because you're like, oh, that dude is the craziest strain, man. He gets the biggest. He got to be puffed at it because he smoked a lot of weed. I got to think so. Why else would he?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Because he didn't, how would he get shit done? I don't really think of him. If I get Sativas, I'm good. I never thought of Diddy as like, it's not like Snoop Dog. Like, I don't think of him as like a weed smoker. Yeah, I don't. So like, it's in the good name for a weed. He called himself puff daddy, which just makes me think it is.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You got the ultimate curse going on. Yeah, but like, yeah, yeah, it's just weird. The dank Rifa. It's a strange name. Which, by the way, we don't smoke. I hope you guys have understood that. Never. Ever.
Starting point is 00:25:26 At any, any DJ party, I've ever done. This has literally gone on three, four months now since 420 episode. Like, we've literally been keeping us joking. It's probably going to be forever. Yeah, you're going to keep right. What is that? What is that? You've done tried lines up?
Starting point is 00:25:42 I don't do lines. I definitely don't do lines. That's a true fact. But I don't smoke either. You snort as you say. I know. It's more about the cocky smoke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You know. Cocky snort. All right. So the point is, though, I don't even know what the fuck big he's trying to say in that, that verse honestly. Like something about the DEA. Don't fuck with him who bring his gad out.
Starting point is 00:26:01 He's got, yeah. He's got the shit on the line. Put your rollers in the sky. Again, all right, the only example of, like, problems that are presented in the song at all based on... Are people trying to fuck with them? Yeah, like, okay, so, and honestly, he was, he wasn't, he wasn't wrong. Like, shit.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Like, that shit went down with him. Honestly, if Biggie didn't have money, he might still be here today, actually. Kind of takes back everything we just said. Biggie found himself some problems because if he had more money. Yeah, but not Mason Puff. Mace got out of me. He became like a church guy. He became like a pastor or something, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And then he came back. Puff definitely didn't. Puff is, I mean, Puff is huge. Puff skated off. Puff damn near a billionaire at this point. Yeah. Well, he kind of like started, he started this whole, I'm telling you, like, Puff's story is actually, like, a very interesting, like, both of them.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm always super fascinated by anything Biggie or Pock related and, like, kind of hearing about, like, how they became where they did. Biggie was literally ready to give up the whole rap thing and go back to slang, and he got, he was driving to, like, North Carolina. like go to because he knew that was a spot where he could like slang and Puffy like called him turned him around. How did he call him? I said cell phones back then. Yeah, like Zach Morris phones and shit. Especially if you're a drug dealer, you gotta have that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You definitely got him to turn around and be like, no, dude, we could make hits. Call them back, got it back on the chain around him. So when I saw that, I saw that. I don't know. I mean, that's a documentary I saw that I talked about. There's a dope documentary on Netflix. where it actually like has a bunch of like home video footage. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That's a good one. That was the one I saw that on. Like he was literally going to, Unsolved is the one that like has actors in it, that wasn't it? Yeah, they mixed a good footage too. No, no, no. Actually, they had like, there's a documentary that had like, somebody had a bunch of like home camera footage of big one of his boys.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Like he was like following him around with it. I don't, I should have names for shit of this shit. But like it's literally a documentary. Go watch it, guys. You can find it. You can find it. Google it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But no, it's got some very like, I think it's relatively new too, but it had a great story about how big he got to where he was. And they were like combining wrapping up on the corner with straight jocking fools on the corner at the same time. Like that was what they're doing. It was a combination of the two. It was like, yeah, we make a rap's on the corner, but also we robbing fools for this shit, like, straight up every day. So he lived that life. He was, like, ready to death.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Why wouldn't that, like, that's crazy. Yeah, no, it was a crazy life that he was, like, living. He was. Like, I don't know how... It's hard to think that he had, once he got more money, he got more problems. because like if that was his life on a daily you straight slang and... There's definitely problems went down.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, but I mean, he had the ultimate problem and that's how many end up not going to capitol. I bet it was one of those fools he robbed early. Possibly. I mean, he was winning back to L.A. shortly after Pock died, so like people were out to get him, you know? Because of Pock?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. Crazy. Like he was a marked man at that point. Man, that's nuts. I'm telling you, man, I'm super fascinated by like the whole story of those two. The fact that that shit went down in... Everybody's sight, and the fact that, like, nobody has answers on, like, who killed either one of them is fucking insane to me. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It is insane. Exactly. So, like, even... It was the 90s, though, man. Nineties was a... Nineties was a crazy time, man. But it produced bangor after bangor after banger, especially while this guy was going on. It's actually insane is, like, how fucking young he actually was when he died.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Both of them were like... Topok died at 25, I think it was. I think he was, like, 24. Yeah. So, like... I definitely saw them as way old. It's insane. Yeah, because he...
Starting point is 00:29:40 just came off as such like an old soul and for some reason as I got older I kind of aged them with me so like when I was 20s big he was like 40 to me Do you realize how young 24 year olds are now Like when you see someone at 24 year olds are now like You're a fucking child baby Baby stop no you can't take that many shots
Starting point is 00:29:58 I know you think you can yeah I know you think you can mix them all Like I if I can take it no you can't Okay I'll give you a fucking hour And you'll be throwing up or being drama Or some bullshit Okay I don't trust 24 year olds with any let alone a record label fucking like beat a fucking spearhead
Starting point is 00:30:15 of my whole label on the shit 24 year old girl give some ditty give ditty more credit for the fact that he like saw this guy that was a young ass kid slangin rocks in the corner in Brooklyn and he was just like giving the keys of the shop he's ready and he was and he fucking made it happen in that short window of time of his life that we actually got to
Starting point is 00:30:34 experience it fucking crushed it pulled shit off and did he set him up for success with jams like this He made this one happen. They were parted their ass off. Like, there's probably no weekend they were not. You know what I mean? That's like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But at the same time, fucking handling business. They were fucking making shit like this. That's crazy shit. There we go. All right, man. I think I already know the amount of cops you're giving it. You know what I'm going with. How are we going to slap this out?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Also, we can add that to the list of times that Justin clapped. I always hit the microphone. I don't know. Every single time. Every single time. I don't know what it is. But yeah, I got to give it. This is the top.
Starting point is 00:31:17 mid-90s jam great sample great rappers and they're all each of their wraps every verse just crushes in a different way although I must say
Starting point is 00:31:28 that I'm very proud that we were able to dissect the fact that they're not talking about a fucking single problem there's no problems there's no problems no it's literally all about like yeah we got money and we're crushing it
Starting point is 00:31:36 going there fuck with us we got gas and the video is the same thing the video is just them like and big fluffy outfits yeah dude I'm telling you like okay there's something about
Starting point is 00:31:46 the mid-90s hip-hop scene that I don't know what it is, but very specifically like a mid-90s, like 95 to like 97. That like just hits me in the feels. I don't know what it was about. I think that's maybe when I was like
Starting point is 00:32:01 as a kid like really like discovering like how much I enjoyed music. Definitely what it was. I was there too man because Missy had that shit. I can't stand and she had to be clubby. And there's a sound. Yeah, there's a certain sound and look that like goes right with the whole mid-90s thing. And that's and this
Starting point is 00:32:17 And this is it. Like, this song encompasses it. The video. Like, the clothes they're wearing, the bright colors, the big, like, they're kind of, I think it's in, like, they shot it in Vegas. There's, like, you know, shiny outfits. They're kind of floating at one point. They're, like, anti-gravity.
Starting point is 00:32:32 They keep in their face in the camera. Yeah, yeah. I love that. Like, and that's what mid-90s had. Those rap videos always had those cool-ass sets where it just looked like they were in a spaceship. This had that bright colors. The sound of it is there. Everything about this says, this is the mid-90s we hear.
Starting point is 00:32:46 and we'd taken over and had loved it. And it was also a good turn for hip hop where it turned into like positive we having fun music. Where I think before that I'd like rap and like you know that old gangster rap culture that had been that was like a lot more like kind of like
Starting point is 00:33:00 glamorizing thug culture. And I think this was a nice turn for it where I was just like no, we all have fun with this. We're making this music. We got money and we partying. We partying. Yeah. So again, goes against the whole name of the song
Starting point is 00:33:11 but I'm like, I got that against him. Did he was partying. He was getting it. He was getting it. He's still getting it, you know? And Mace, we miss you. Fucking love the way Mace rapped. I love Mace's kind of slurry, lazy style of rapping like that.
Starting point is 00:33:23 He was one of my early favorite rappers. And I miss you. I'm glad you found whatever you found. Coming back. I don't think he's going to. Now it'll be all weird. He'll be all like. He's like, he became a pastor.
Starting point is 00:33:33 He came back. He did that like Welcome Back song. Remember that song? Welcome back. Welcome back. Mace is back. Yeah, that's all. No, I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:33:42 You just sing it with me. And you just literally don't remember. That's like the only part Brain works out That's all you need to really know But yeah So it was fine It was good to hear him back
Starting point is 00:33:53 But like yeah There's nothing like mid-90s Mays and I said All right Well like you once again Mo money No fucking problems Mo money no problems
Starting point is 00:34:00 That's what the title Should have been That's what it is And shout out to Biggie Rest in peace And shout out to this Fantastic 90s jam Way to bring Diana Ross back
Starting point is 00:34:08 You know Give her her little 90s love Give her a little 90s rub Right there All right so this This goes out to all of you Make some more money. And also if you make money... You're gonna have no problems. You're gonna have no problems
Starting point is 00:34:20 you make more money, alright? And if you have money, stop talking about your fucking problem. Yeah, don't don't act like your fucking problems are real problems, okay? You got rich people problems. That's all right. You're doing all right. You're doing fine. Gonna do it. You're gonna be all right. Fuck you. Okay. Next!

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