Dissect DJs - Teena Marie - Square Biz

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

We throw it back to the most bonding track in Castle & JAG history - Teena Marie's 1981 classic "Square Biz". Hear the back story of why lil' 5'1, 100 pounds of fun Teena Marie A.K.A Casper/Shorty/Lil' Bit/Vanilla Child created the ultimate dance party mix for all social situations. We're talkin' Square Biz, we're gonna hip you to the Tee! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

D-Sect D. Oh, what's going on? We've been talking about it for a very long time. It's the D-Sex DJ. It's your boy DJ MCJ, Jack, and your boy Castizi. What I'm man? Because we are. The DJs, I like to mix it.

Throw it back and dissect it. And I wanted to stop this song before we get it let it going because, like I said, we've been talking about it for a while. And this is me and Castles, one of our top songs, if not possibly top song. And we like to let it play. This song's going to play a lot. You're going to dance wherever you are at home, wherever you are in the world. You should.

You'd be dancing with this. And we're going to dissect it. We're going to go through the words. But we're also going to let the song play out as much as possible because we're going to be dancing. First, we should actually explain what the song is. And it is Miss Tina Marie Square Biz from 1981. That's why it's a beautiful blend of sort of disco. 80s pop and gorgeous singing.

You're going to hear it all together here shortly. But like I said, we were going to make this episode 100. Yes, that was our plan for the longest time. In my head, I was like, this is going to be what we're going to do for episode 100. Because this is a one for me and one for you, Jagging Castazy. We love to actually jam the song the entire time we lived together in 2018. That's right. Every time Castle would come home, everyone I'd hear him coming up the stairs.

I'd be like, hold up. And I set up a speaker system throughout the house. house? I'm like, okay. And it was a good way for Castle to enter the house. That he would literally have it queued up and the second I walked through the door hit that and the speakers

we could play throughout the whole house. And I immediately felt better about whatever happened that entire day. And if it was a long work day, it was even more appreciated enough and it was. So yeah, and then that was just a go-to. And then this genre in general was

often played throughout the house. How do we come up with the song as one of our favorites? How did that come about? I don't even know. I mean, I can tell you my background with it. I loved a song when I was in high school by Nas called FirmBiz. Okay. Okay.

And I got it off the source 1997 mixtape, I believe, which was a CD I used to listen into the ground. And it had a song called FirmBiz. And it's one of those ones where like you get really into hip-hop song that is like awesome. And then you realize years later, oh, they full. sampled this song from 1981 by Tina Marie. So I had already kind of loved the beat with it. It was just kind of like this song would like rap to it. And when I discovered this, I was like, oh shit.

I think I like the original version even better. The six e-z-out, CD-Lase, digital read-out, no doubt, cop-pox from the dread, fuck the weedhouse or elegance. Hate females with no intelligence embezzlement. Got big boys behind a metal fence. Merville Lynch, In short life. Chris Moore-Wite, Viss or Ice, Sex, Chicks or Types. General status Smoothness

Mixed with malice Trips to Dallas Build a pool in my palace Who want what For more monies I want to cut extorting Tooth from the corners That brung us up

60 inch screens Lazy discs with the beam It's my life I'm holding the dice Don't intervene I send a team To smash out your whole plans No cold hands

Live with a hunger To hold grand song from state biz To large cats And lay scripts It's firm bitch You know what time it is I'm talking I honestly never heard that song

In my life Yeah Not one time It was one of those songs that went out of the radar because, remember around that time you'd started, like, you'd burn CDs of, like, the songs that were, like, your favorite songs in life.

And it was a beautiful time because then you put that CD in your car and it's just full of songs that you want to listen to. Why to go away, though? Well, the thing is, I would, I had it on one of the CDs that I always played. I think it was, like, CD3 of all, the third CD I ever made. You know, I just put names on them. I don't remember what I put on it.

But I would play that, and, like, I remember people in my car, might not understand what it was. Like, I always felt like nobody knows what the song is. And I remember one time even guy, remember last episode, talking about how, like, the homies from back of the day would be like, Oh, yeah, Ruben and Omar. And I remember, like, one of them kind of get,

because they know, that one's kind of got a dancey disco flare to it and stuff. I remember when we were like, dude, what is this shit? And I was just like, this is Nas, homie. And he's like, oh, shit, that's Nas? Oh, okay. And he immediately respected it more, you know what I mean? Because Nas has names in the streets, you know, he got respect. But this song sucks.

Oh, it's, okay, it's dope. Okay, all right, let me listen to it a little bit more than. But that was always just my jam, and I kind of felt like it was one of those ones where, like, I never connected with anybody on. So when I actually understood that this was a Tina Marie's song and it had an original and then you loved it and you had a history with it, it just became more of a bonding tool to where I was like, yo, the fact that Justin loves this song as much as I do, throw it on, motherfucker.

Yeah, I was introduced to the song by my sister. because my sister was introduced by a guy that she used the bone. There's probably a better way to say that. Oh, no, that's... You already said it just keep moving. That's what it was. Yeah, all right. And then he was like, this is a good song.

That's the holster. And then she was driving when she was like banging him or whatever she was doing and it dropped up. And he was like, this is the thing. And he played Tina Maria's a song. She was like, oh, it's a good. She's a jam. And then she introduced it to me.

Todd was his name. He played chess. He used to whoop my ass at chest too. That's... That's... That's... That's... ...the fact that he used to

embarrassing in chess and that's supposed to be a game. He was so good. He used to kill me. And he'd be talking shit. Oh, the guy was... He was what it was. But gotta give him credit.

He knew how to play chess and he knew SquareBiz. We've got our dance song for the last two minutes because I've told you, this is our song. It actually does feel like we just played like two minutes of that song. What do we do?

Is it? Is it? Yeah. Exactly two minutes. All right, yeah. Because once we get up and start dancing, it's hard to just sit down and be like, all right, we got a job to do.

Do we need to go through the lyrics there? Get lost in the moment. Do we want to go through the lyrics? Did you already have them up? I absolutely do. I have them up right here. Hit them. I love the fact that the lyrics on Genius,

the first thing it says is, he, dot, dot, dot, dot. Very misleading. And I was thinking about it. Like, if you were doing karaoke in the song, and this was the lyrics that it brought up here, it literally says, E dot dot dot and if this was like coming up and you didn't know the song and that that showed up

you'd be like he meanwhile she you're supposed to toss out the most epic everybody get up which is a great way to start a song come on tell everybody you get up the fact that anybody would be sitting down after that is offensive to me it's offensive to Tina and all human civilization all right so from there you go everybody get up which every time she's says that by the way i've gotten up and you should too from wherever you're at you should have got up while you're listening to this episode she said it we played it twice she told you played it twice she told you did no he said all right now she gets into it flashback who's that dancing to the latest me so i've debone the greatest oh he sure is moving me that's what i said though you didn't know yet

all of it was kismet soon to be made history so some guys in the in the in the in the club dancing. He's hot and she's into it. She's calling it out. I just see is Kismet a word. It is. Oh, fate. All of it was fate.

A one word definition. Fate. I love it. All right. Kismet is fate. Tina, I respect even more. This is the kind of thing.

Can we be honest? All she had to say was all of it was fate. Soon to speed history. Let me explain why I love it. I used to be much more of a writer was a journalism major. Oh, you didn't know yet? All of it was kids.

I had a column in the school newspaper, Castle's Corner. I used to have to come out with stuff all the time in the newspaper, and I love Thesaurus.com, or the Thesaurus in general, because that was my kind of shit. It's like, I have a word, I have a general idea I want to say, but I feel like there's a cooler way to say it, and I would always do that. I always thought Theosaurus sound like a random dinosaur.

It does. It's got Soros in it. Why wouldn't you think that? Especially, you know, classic Justin. All of it was Kismet. That's a great better way of saying it. Especially because right before she says, you didn't know yet, all of it was Kismet.

It rhymes, exactly. I didn't realize that. I was just saying fate. Soon to be made history. So don't you have no doubt? I'm going to spell it out. I'll help you. Toot the T.

That is I got the best, the most baby from coast to coast. And I don't want to boast. but I love you. Squarebiz. What is squarebiz? I'm talking square biz to you. I still don't know. I mean, all right, let's break this stuff.

Maybe we should just look up what a square biz mean. Let's look up that is. What does? I am going to let you do that, and I'm going to try to figure it up, okay? As I do. All right, square biz. When someone is being very real, serious, straight talk. I was about to get into it.

Man, I cut you off until we didn't have to. There it is. So I don't want to both, but I love you. Real talk. Can we at least discuss this? How does Square Biz mean real talk? That's true. Like, what?

It's, it's, it's because square has equal angles. I got it. Wait, let me finish. It has equal angles. A square has equal language. And then the business of a square is to incorporate, the correct angles to stay appropriate. A square is four corners.

It is surrounded. It is locked off and sharp. There is no opening that square. It is a cube. It is locked off at all times. There's no misinterpreting a square when you see it. There's other shapes. It could be like, it's kind of rectangular.

I don't know. It's a little bit of an oval. It's got an octagon. It's got a bunch of sides. I don't know. Is it a hectorcon? a sectagon, I don't, I gotta count to figure it out. You know a square when you see it.

That shit is coming at your forehead like a block that a fucking child through in daycare center. It is a hard object that you cannot misinterpret. You know a square when you see it. When something is square biz, that shit is real. That's right. I think that's what she was trying to say. I'm talking square biz to you, baby.

Yeah. Could it possibly be a business where they create squares? Yeah, maybe. Square, square, squarebiz. I'm talking love that is. Square, square bis. I'm talking square biz to you, baby. We danced through all this already.

Yeah, we danced all that out. And then she went through a whole second verse, I think. Yeah, and we had to hear that. So shy, whoa my, had to change that real quick. had to use a few tricks You know Like my Femmy Femfetal

Femfetile Fais to you Dancing on a cloud I'm gonna sing it loud Because my love is on the while So that you have no doubt I'm gonna spell the doubt I'll heap you

Toot the Tith that is I got the best of most of the coast I want to boast What I love to say What is she talking about there So shy Well my chains and rules

real quick. Had to use a few tricks. You know, okay, so there's the guy of the club and she's really into him. She was a little shy. She had to use some ideas.

I think her shyness is of a... But then she got them to dance with her. Now let me explain to so shy. They were dancing and... She says, so shy. Oh, my. I imagine her doing that with a covering her hands and looking away like,

I'm so shy. Oh my God. Are you making me dance right now? Okay, watch it. And then next thing you know, she starts getting it. She starts busting it down. Best dancer in the club. And you're like, oh, my God, I'm so shy.

Touch Rosie Perez. But you brought me out to the dance floor and I'm going to Holly Abdulian. Show you what it's all about you. Get straight up, Paul Abdul, all up and down the floor. And now she's going to sing it loud because my love is on the wow. Man, all right. Let's get into phase three because we're going to let it play out.

Phase three. Ooh, we on Love Oasis. Joy upon our faces sent from up above. Bombs, burst, fireworks, big production thing. I'm taking horns and string. Orchestrating is my love. Okay, so do they get together? That's phase three.

Phase three, they get together and it works out. It's fireworks are happening and it's epic. So basically, from what I got from this song, she's a hot guy, she's into him. She's actually a shy route, finally gets with them, they finally start dancing, and the dancing turned out to be exactly what she hoped it to be epic.

Big production thing. That's it. I'm talking horns and strings. Orchestration is my love. Look at the way Tina is describing beautiful lovemaking and awesome fireworks being set off with amazing visual description.

She's talking about bombs burst, big production thing, horns and strings. orchestration Justino Did you know Do you know who the guy is? It doesn't matter

No but do you know Do you know who the guy is? I know Franks Natch I'm a good guess But as I'm looking deeper into the thing We're going to find this out Apparently It's Slick Rick

Get the fuck out Slick Rick When So let's listen to I doubt that it was in 1981 Slick Rick would have been I'm telling you man It says Slick Rick right there.

Let's listen. Don't be too Slick now. Did you hear it? Yeah, obviously I know this part of the song. No. Did you hear it? He said, ladies call me Slick Rick. You didn't hear that?

Yes, of course. I've listened to the song about 1.3 million times. Oh, so it was Slick Rick. You didn't know that? It's obviously not the voice of the Slick Rick that we would come to know. I love it, Slip Rick, in the 90s hip-hop scene. It's a rhyming name that goes with the word slick. It's not really like Slick Rick came up with.

something real super creative when he came up with that name. And she says his name's Rick. Whoa Don't be too slick now. But they ain't got nothing on me. I'm left in five foot I like sophisticated funk. I live on don't per yon, caviar filling in yon

and you can best believe that's bulk. Here's what I'm talking about me to. Where? Oh man, wait. She gets in there right there. She likes Don't Perillon, Cavaléon. She's 5'1 and 100 pounds of fun. Like that she kills him. Tina Marie with a rap out of nowhere. And you always got to remember in 1981, rap like was barely existent.

So this is like, remember when we did the episode on Blondie in the RAP shirt? Yeah, absolutely. And I talked about, I think that was the same year. And I talked about how this was one of the early days of rap. And back then, rap was not defined. It was like, a white girl wanted to bust out a little rap in a song.

Like, you were impressed by that shit. Yeah, exactly. So this is right after that. And Tina Marie is just like, yeah, I'm going to get that. There's no reason that a little white girl couldn't get after a rap back then, you know? She said, I'm less than 5 foot 1. She doesn't even say she's 5 foot 1.

100 pounds of fun. You know she says I'm less than 5 foot 1? That's funny. I always thought she said that. I'm 5 foot 1, 100 pounds of fun. I'm 5 foot 1. So apparently she's smaller than 5 foot 1. 100 pounds of fun?

Like a sophisticated? I always loved. Like sophisticated what? You thought it was fun, huh? It was funk. I always loved how she described yourself as 100 pounds of fun. fun. That's such a cool line. Yeah, that's a good line.

I like sophisticated funk. I live on Nampillon, Carri-on-fil-le-minion. There, this girl. And you can best believe that's bunk. It's quail me. All right, let's hear this last part of rap. She's about to get into it one more time.

Get it. It's Tina! I've been called Cass to show me a little bit and some they call me vanilla chaw. But you know that don't mean my world to me because baby names can't cramp myself. I love you kicking

And bust collared greens A little hot water Come brink Wait a minute Wait all these people she named off I don't know But I'm tempted to elect Tina Marie to the Third Verace Hall of Fame

I know, he's a good people Okay so Maya Angelou She named off Shakespeare Sean Von Johann Sebastian Bach That's like a You know classical

Shakespeare And Nikki Giovanni She just named off a bunch of people All right Well these are legends I think these are all legends Of the written circuit What the hell is Casper

Shorty B in a little bit That's what they call her These are names that she goes by Oh no shit Yeah Some they love you too Cat Daddy Vanilla Child

Vanilla Child Well think about it There's a little white girl around the clubs who is spouting rhymes in the early 80s. She was probably hanging around Planet Funk and stuff. They would bring her around and they'd be like, oh, you're a little vanilla child. You're a vanilla child, I got you.

Shorty, yeah, yeah. She just fit right in. Let me tell you why. This is why I want to induct Tina into the Third Verse Hall of Fame, which is an esteemed member of the Academy in the Dicec DJs podcast because I've only inducted, I want to say four, maybe five people to say. that but she just keeps going and getting higher and hotter and going bigger and she gets more

energy and just keeps going up she does not like sometimes people start to flail at the end of a rapper she just keeps getting more excited right i got to keep my irons in the fire you'll see i got the point the scam the low the deal what you feel saying what like she just keeps going up here well i'm wild and peaceful lady t Yeah, no, get it, Tina. Tina! I don't know you, but I know you're 100 pounds of fun. It's been a 5-foot-1, and she's going to hit you to the T.

Just under 5-foot-1. I was just thinking about it. Hip you to the T, that sounds like such a dated reference at this point. But maybe, at this point in time, I can't speak for it, because I wasn't around in 81, but maybe that was some fresh-ass thing. You know how shit's got to start, like, somewhere, right? Well, Hippy to the T is just her name, Tina. Hipp you to the T.

But also the T. Like the T, I'm Tina. That's a cool way of saying that. And I am not going to sleep on that little bridge that she had right in there at the end where she just could go on. Flashback. Who's that? Flashback. Like, what does that shit mean even?

Let's discuss. Let's dissect. Flashback. Who's that? Like, I don't know. I love a good flashback myself. But at the time she made this, it wasn't a flashback. But it is to us now, so I love it even more.

It's almost like she set it up for us. Like she knew it was going to be a flashback later. It was going to be a great flashback. And we're like, 40 years later. Yeah, and we're like, who's that? And she says, I'm going to hit you to the T. Meaning, if you don't know about Tina. I got you.

Let's get to step in. I understand right now. Right. So I'm talking about. And let the horns blow. Yeah. Oh, man. We're talking square biz, man.

So excited about it. Only took 104 episodes. To play one of our favorites. And we basically found out that she's at the club. She's the guy she's into. He's looking good. Which comes to be slick Rick, we couldn't find. She acts shy, ends up finding it, gets to start dancing with them.

When they dance, the dance turns into fucking effigus. She was never shy. She went there ready to party. She was playing shy. Yeah. And then they got to dancing. It ended up being bombs, and fireworks, big production.

And then from that point on... Big production things. From that point on, she's just showing... And then from there, she explains how tall she is and what she likes to eat and drink. Under 5'1, 100 pounds of fun. And then caviar and filet mignon. And then all the people she knows.

Casper Shorty. That's what she's called. We find out other names of hers. Casper Shorty, a little bit. Vanilla Child. And then we find out the people she enjoys, which is Sarah Vaughn, John Sebastian Bach, Shakespeare, Maya Angelou,

all these high people. She's going to hip you to the tea. She's going to hip you to the tea. And from that point, it's just six minutes of glory. It just keeps going, which is one of the things I think I actually liked about when we used to jammed this song all the time is... Because you think it's going, no. No, it just keeps going, and it keeps party life.

Like, you could play this for a solid six minutes, and the dancer shouldn't get tired of it. The party shouldn't get tired of it. I know I won't. If other people do, then it's like, you're not in the right room. We're not friends, and I don't know you, and we're not going to be friends. Fuck you. Oh, man, this might be one of the easier slaps and snaps.

Let's do it together. You ready? You ready? All right. Out of five slaps, we give Tina Marie Square biz. You guys knew when we played it forever. This is a song for us. And now that, it's me a castle song.

So even if it's like not your favorite song, it's our favorite song. We're going to play it. It's going to be played at any of our parties if you ever come to it for the rest of our lives. I was greeted when I got home for work with this song for six solid months. And he still loves it. That's how much is it. Yeah, no, that's why I love it. Greg Messis will enjoy this one, even though he never listens to us.

Our boy, Greg, this is another one. I know he loves this song as well. Jayway, another one loves it. All our boys love this. My family love, my sister loves it. Her ex-boyfriend that she used to bang. It used to love it Everybody. Everybody loves this.

Okay, yeah. Just let's reach our arms out And bring everybody in the circle. Everybody. How about not a circle? No. How about a square? You know why?

Because it's square Is Next!