Dissect DJs - The Doobie Brothers - What a Fool Believes

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

See the video episode here: https://youtu.be/6OWDB3fHHe0  We throw it back to '79 to break down the iconic disco rock anthem cooked up by the legendary Doobie Brothers, with "What a Fool Believes". We dissect the deeper meaning behind the happy-sounding jam, and how it's actually much darker and sadder than it initially comes across on the surface. Castle's former college radio co-host Greg Mestas steps in to join the team for the episode, as we recap the memorable day that made this song a bond that stands forever more. Let's Doobie up! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

set set DJ DJ DJ Yes sir We are back And we are chilling with the Doobie brothers Because we are the DJs That like to spit it

Mix it Throw it back And Dissect it And we have a little Special guest appearance for you today Making his first ever appearance On the Dicect DJs

Because DJ JAG decided He was too cool show up today. That's a lie. He actually had no idea we're doing this. But one of my old favorite broadcast mates has joined us in the flesh. Give it up for Greg DJ G. Mastizo. Mestus. What up, sir. Hey, how's it going, man? Welcome to the Dysack DJ's studio. Thank you. What are your first impressions? Well, firstly, I'm honored to hold a seat in such a, you know, notorious, uh, production. And I will say I'm a little bit intimidated by the sheer wattage of light that's

hitting on. But I'm excited, man. I'm excited to see what you got going on here. Hey, that showbiz, Greg. And you're aware of this. We have, Greg is actually the only person I could say that I've actually gone on auditions with in the past. There was a stretch of time where I was like, you know, let me just check out this acting thing a little bit. Let me go on some auditions. And we, we went on a couple auditions. We did one. One where we were pretending to be zombies, where they needed us to do zombies. Greg was way better at that than I was. Yeah, I don't know.

I guess I'm just good at being a zombie for some reason. He did it for Universal Studios. Yeah. Give the men his flowers. I don't know, but I didn't land the role for some reason. I know. They're insane that they didn't call you back for that. That was stupid.

That's their loss, dude. There's no way they got a better zombie than Greg. We also one-time auditioned together for like some reality show. I think it was called Fuck Boy Island I'm just kidding, I don't know. I don't think they gave us a name, but it was weird because we actually had to stand in front of a room of a bunch of other dudes

and like answer questions. Fun experience, a growing experience, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I thought we were pretty good. Oh, we were like, we were. Went another direction. Again, never got the call. We were definitely, I'd say,

in the top four entertaining people of like a room of like 20. It was a, it's probably for the better. It's probably, yeah, it's probably for the better. Well, you know what I remember realizing after the fact? They would ask you questions like, what do you look for in a girl that, like, you'd be interested in? And one of the, I think the first thing I said is, you know, like, oh, she's got to be smart. And I realized later, I was like, that's not what they wanted to hear.

They didn't not. Like, oh, you know, once a smart girl. Yeah. Not going to work. She was a holiday partner. Yeah, we were looking for gritty. She's got to be gritty. And that's, we're going to start there.

Looking for one of them hood rats. Yeah. No, that would have been, I would have been booked right then and there. I had to keep it real, man. I had to keep it. That's the only way I know how to be. I want a girl that constantly checks her phone. I want a girl that one word replies in the text.

And that's my life partner right there. When she typed something. auto correct takesover and is like did you mean to say kay but yeah me and great go way back all the way back to our days at cal state fullerton where he was my co-host on titan radio which uh was the radio station of our alma mater of cal state fullerton and we hosted a show called the newcastle experience drink it in smooth and they would basically give us the keys to a full on radio station. It was kind of intimidating, but we just had fun with it. And I, of course, was trying to make, like, a bunch of sound effects happen. So I was using, like, every outlet they

had for, like, I had been laptop connected. I had a CD of instrumental beats in the background. And I would always prep extensively for what we were going to talk about for the show. And Greg would show up five minutes before the show started and was like, what are we talking about today? Actually, you know what, don't tell me. I'll just, I'll wing it. Yeah. There's no, there's no, there's no preparing for me. me. I just got to just give it to me straight and I'm going to give you something back, you know? Greg, legendarily one of just the best wingmen ever, just in that sense alone. Like you could throw them as your side host on a radio show and he'll just be able to be like,

yeah, and I'll figure it out. And he always did. It also helped that just knowing that there was exactly zero listeners to our show. So the pressure was not. I remember looking at the analytics of the show and they would have like, it would like be a bar graph and we would have a number kind of like you know and we're like it says it's 13. Does that mean 13 people do you think are listening to this? We had like a a time slot of like 11 am. on Tuesday so I don't know how many people are listening at Titan radio. I wasn't even really aware that we had a radio station at the college until we were actually on the show but you know that's probably why they didn't really question us at all. They're like oh you want to you want to be on

the radio? Sure. Here's a booth. It was great experience, though. No questioning at all what our programming was. Like, we really could have been. We could have done whatever we wanted. There was nobody overseeing the operation. And I can say in my resume now that I've ran my own radio show in a legit station.

So for nothing else, it gave us that. And we were then supposed to parlay that into a podcast. We discussed making a podcast happen at that. time and this was like what like 12 years ago at least and yeah and i never really made it happen because i wanted us to be able to have a call-in feature the way our radio show did and i couldn't figure out how to make that work so we just kind of never did it and i kick myself at least every twelfth day because we could have been podcasting this whole time gregg it was right there for us yeah you know man we could be joe rogan and and bill burr right now and

Bill Simmons, the best podcasters who started back in the early days of the advent of podcasting. But it's all right. We finally got there. We made it full circle. Instead, we worked at Chase Bank. I think you did, yeah. I just had a passion for retail banking.

Yeah. Yeah, that was a good having you. So we should actually address the song that we're doing today on today's episode, The Dysectees. We're back to dissecting some jams. Justin will be back eventually whenever he actually wants to make the visit out to the fortress. But for now, Greg, who's visiting in California, had to get him on the show. So we decided to cover one of the iconic jams in our life that is a very special bond that we share.

And it is the Doobie Brothers. What a fool believes. I thought you're about to hit play on it. No. We already played a good amount of it. We went through the whole first verse. They get it. Yeah, you heard it.

We get it. We did it. We'll break down some lyrics in just a second. But what is the first thing that this song conjures up in your brain whenever you hear it? Oh, my God. Well, there was one day that we, this song followed us. We went to like four different places, four different restaurants, bar, whatever it was, and heard this song at every single spot.

And it was the greatest day of my entire life. We had a legendary day. this song. I'll try to recap it as best I can't. So first we were at my house and we were just playing some like old school jam, some like some funk noise just to like just get us hyped on the day as we are known to do. And one of the songs that we played was this song because it just gets us moving. It gets us in that retro spirit that we love to be in. And then we went driving to go somewhere and while we're in the car we're listening to the radio sure enough the doby brothers pop on the radio we're like dude this song is our fate right now this is we are meant to be what a fool

believes and then i think we went to like a grocery store to like pick up something yeah i think it was like ralphs or something like that yeah definitely a ralphs um and important to know this is yeah this is an important note to the story because ralphs you know plays only the hottest jams Shout out to Ralph, dude. From back in the day to today. I'm not at it. What you're doing right now. I'm using.

Never. You should write a note to Ralph himself and let him know his grocery chain. It's doing good business. It's doing good things, including playing the Doobie Brothers. Then we ended up going to a bar later that night. And guess what? Juby Brothers, what a fool believes, starts jamming all throughout the entire arena. And then I feel like there was even another one later on.

It was. Yeah, I just think that. I mean, we both love that song. Yeah. And that day. That day, yeah, how could you not love this song? It's so, well, come on. We'll break it down, but you'll, if you're not in love with this song yet,

hopefully you will by the end of this. That is our mission. And then, of course, it became like a go-to, like then from then on, anytime we hear it in life, we just send it to each other. We're known to send random songs that we have that are, we bond over. Mostly how we communicate. It's that. Yeah.

We'll write our own words, but usually it's just a link to a song. It's this and like Easy Lover by Phil Collins and Philip Bailey. Dang, that's another one I was thinking of. Yeah. That's one of the ones. But it's all right. Yeah. There's a lot of songs in the world.

Maybe we do that next. Yeah. You haven't done that yet, right? No, we haven't. Okay. No, I've been saving it for you. God, you damn, easy lover, dude. Yeah.

Easy lover. If I can get Greg to hang around for another episode, we will break that one down next. Oh, boy. You know he just made dinner plans on me. we were recording. I think Ryan's going to slash my tire so I can't leave. Yeah. Okay.

All right. So the fun thing about this song, I think, in doing it on a dissect level, is I've been jamming it my whole life, but I actually have no idea, like, what he's saying at all. So we're about to find out what this song is about together. I do a little bit about it. Do we? Yeah, but I don't know all the lyrics. I will tell you that all I really know is,

Who come from plum? And then, of course, I don't even know the words. All right. You got there. You struggled, but you got there on the high note. Good job. I cannot reach Michael McDonald's high note.

Come on. I wish. I wish. So this song was actually written by Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins, who was another legendary artist from this general sort of disco pop area of the late 70s, early 80s. Actually, what year was this song put out? It would be like 80. Guess.

85. Let's say 85. Where the hell is it? Usually it tells me right at the top of genius lyrics, which is like letting me down right now. 1979. 79. What was your guess? 85.

No, yeah. 79. 79 felt like a better guess to me. Yeah, yeah. Because it's still got elements of disco in it, you know? It's like kind of, you feel the 1979 as you hear it. It's like, it's coming out of the speakers. Yeah, it's starting to get on that like, like, haul and oats type a dancing funk where it's not disco, but it's like, but you can dance to this.

It's it, it's it's going to move. It will get you moving. Okay, so let's break down the lyrics a little bit. He came from somewhere back in her long ago. Okay, that's interesting. Oh, that makes sense. Back in her long ago. What a great way of saying that, like, he was a person that, like, exists in her past.

You know, like, this is a person that was a person that was a. important. It doesn't quite make sense. But I like that. If we're going to be a grammar Nazi. It's not a grammatically correct sentence, but I get what he's saying. And that is the beauty of a good sentence. I'll take it.

The sentimental fool don't see. I'm not going to try to say in a singing way because I don't even know what these lyrics how they operate them. The sentimental fool don't see, trying hard to recreate what had yet

to be created once in her life. So it feels like... Let's rub this. You can't have to do with that one more time. The sentimental fool don't see, trying hard to recreate what had yet to be created once in her life. So it feels like... Okay. So he exists in her past, right?

And he... He's referencing him as a sentimental fool. So he has these, like, loving memories of this girl, right? and he's trying to recreate what had yet to be created once in her life. So that part actually confuses me a little bit. Because was it created or was it something that had never been created? Well, he's a sentimental fool. I've got to pull these lyrics too so I can see.

Yeah, you follow him along with me. Bring them up on the old iPhone or Galaxy Wireless, whatever you have. Yeah, I have access to the internet. He actually has cricket. She musters. Wait, wait. I think that's part of really the netherly. next phrase.

So what had yet to be created once in her life, she musters a smile for his nostalgic tale, never coming near what he wanted to say, only to realize it never really was. What poetry, man. Wow, man. What a wordsmith. Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald. I mean, McDonald's, yeah. Doobies.

The doobies as a whole. Just fucking spitting fire in poetry. Right out of the gate, there's a lot right there. There's a lot right there and I really want to nail exactly what they're trying to say with that. Okay, he came from somewhere back in her long ago. Somewhere from the past. Somewhere from her past. Yeah.

And she's trying to create something that's never been, she's going to create some situation that's ever been created in her life. She musters a smile for his nostalgic tale. That feels to me like she is kind of like, she senses that he is like here for the nostalgia act. He's trying to recreate a magic that it sounds like maybe she never really felt exactly what he did. So she musters just smiles. She's smiling like, this is like you meeting up with a girl in your past so you create a meeting. And then maybe in your mind, if you're like the man in a situation, you're like, oh my God.

Like this is let's like create that magic that I always felt long ago. And like maybe this is a whole new magic that we can create. And maybe she's not on the same page with that. Maybe she's just kind of musters a smile. Like she's there to be nice. She's there to like just check in with you. Maybe have a little catch up. Maybe she's not exactly on the same page.

But she musters just smile about it. And then it says never coming near what he wanted to say. See? So he was hoping that she was going to be like, oh my God, we have been soulmates for years. And like we just needed the opportunity to find each other and see it. And only to realize. it never really was. Is that what you're reading from it?

Yeah, I feel like it makes sense mostly. There's definitely some nostalgia. We might need to keep rolling with the next one to put the whole story together, you know? Because I feel like we have pieces of the puzzle, but I can't really tell it. All right. Let's keep it rolling.

Everybody else would surely know. Stopped it later. We went further than that earlier Because it went to She Out of place We can still discuss those lyrics I just want to hear you attempt to hit that

She Had a place in his life He never made her think twice I don't know I actually don't remember how he says it I'll go back I'll play that part again That was good

That was a good attempt I'm no doobie brother Gregory All right let's see There it is This one's a little I remember now I feel it. I'm like, this is a little bit of a sad song.

This guy's blind to the fact that obviously she's leaving or she doesn't want to be with him. She had a place in his life. He never made her think twice as he rises to her apology. Anybody else would surely know he's watching her go. Everybody sees it except for him. Oh, man, the everybody sees it. That's why it's what a fool believes. Yes.

No wise man has a power to reason away. What seems to be is always better than nothing, nothing at all. He'd rather believe there's something there with her than to see the truth of the fact that you messed up, buddy. How many people do you think this rings true with? And, like, maybe doesn't even, like, I mean, I never knew exactly what the song was talking about. And so many guys, I think, and probably girls, too.

I don't think it's, like, you know, just, like, adjacent to one gender or the other. But it definitely feels like something that, like, rings true. I think in many, maybe even most people's past, A lot of people. I guarantee you, I don't know, it's just a good song. Regardless of honestly what he's saying in the song, the melody is freaking fire. That's what makes you not, it coats the fact that there's actually a little bit of a sadness to the song.

Yeah. But if you listen to it with that in mind, it also comes out in it. Like, you can hear how it's sort of a longing for something song. And because it's like such a fire dance song that, like, gets people, like, moving, there is an element of nostalgia with it where you can have fun for that moment while it's in your mind in that nostalgic verse that makes you just enjoy the memory that you have.

And really what you want the memory to be. You know, sometimes people like hear a memory. They think of a moment of the past and they kind of have rose-tinting goggles with it. You know, they're like how they view it, how they remember it, how they think of this time with this person. Maybe they think that there was like a thing

that a connection that was there and they're fond of that they enjoy the experience of being like you know what that was such a good like we had a real special thing that maybe was very much of a one-sided tunnel but when you hear the doobie brothers and the way that keyboard is just jam and it makes everybody move for that moment it's like let me just jam to this memory as i like it to be as i like to have it be created and i choose to remember it and sometimes it takes that meeting with a person as this sounds like it is, where they have to muster the smile to meet your nostalgic enjoyment of it

to throw some cool water on it, to be like, you know what, it's not actually, oh shit, was that all up in my head? You're like, I always jammed to it the way the Doobie Brothers jam on a keyboard, you know? Yeah, I feel like this dissect actually just makes you sad about the song, but it's so good. It's so good. Hey, welcome to being a dissect DJ, Greg.

It's not all sun and flowers and happiness. Sometimes we cut to the real. We get real with it. It's going to need to bring a box of tissues for this one. The next verse is pretty... We're going to use the tissues. I don't know. On my Johnson.

Sorry, that was... I just wanted to say the word Johnson. Yeah. I love good slang terms for Dick. Man, that's one of my favorite things about the English language. Yeah. What's your favorite slang term for penis? Let's just get off the...

that exit from what a fool believes and let's just go down Dick Avenue real fast. I don't know I keep going down the highway. Just give me one. It's dark on that exit. There's no light. What's your favorite slaying term for Dick? You want to be a dice and DJ here. Just like a real dark turn.

I don't feel comfortable. I don't know, man. Johnson's good though. Johnson's a good one. Schwan's. I like Schwanz. Yeah. It makes me think of Ryan Gosling.

Oh, yeah. And he did. Yeah, Schwance is good. I mean, it's like, my schvance is in your face. If you don't have an issue with that, we got a problem. We got a bigger problem. That's one. That's one of our favorite movies, too.

That's a good one. What's it called? Crazy's Duba Love. Yeah, that's a great movie. Excellent Ryan Gosling performance. Okay, so you were talking about the next verse having like a whole... Where were we? Yeah, it's a little...

Do you want to go over it? Yeah, the next one. Well, it's the chorus again. Okay, so we picked up... Where we left off going over the lyrics was, She had a place in his life He never made her think twice As he rises to her apology

Yep, then anybody else would surely know Then he's watching her go And then it's the chorus again But what a fool believes he sees No wise man has the power to reason away What seems to be Is always better than nothing And nothing at all

So yeah, like you were saying, he's more in his belief than like what's real, you know. You know what? Real quick on that, I feel like that is something that exists a lot of times when say there's somebody that you know, maybe you were even just friends or maybe you have a real relationship at some point with. And then maybe they live far away. They live like across the globe and in a different state, something like that. and you kind of romanticize the idea of maybe having a meeting with them again. And almost you feel like the sparks that maybe were at your peak you felt would immediately be there. But then it's like maybe you meet up with them and that's not the spark that's there at all.

You know, maybe you were different people at that different stage in life. That could have been like five, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, whatever it is. You know what I mean? Wait, I changed my answer. What's that? Wang. I actually prefer Wang. Yes. Thank you. Yeah.

I knew you were here to play the Dyset game. I love the kind of cultural... Cultural significance of it. Wang is good. Wang is a good one. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah, yeah.

Because Wang is like, no one's taking a wing seriously. Nobody's ready for Wang when it comes out. Like if somebody... I think that's the actual sound. If somebody... If somebody... Like, let's say somebody just kind of like brush their arm down. and you know, I just caught the end of it.

And you were like, oh, my wing! Like, nobody's ready for you to say that. Bro, you just elbowed me in the wing. Dude, you got me in the dub. The dub is a new one. The dub ang. All right, we should probably keep this going, because I want to get back on the freeway

and off of Dick. No, let's stay on Schlong Street. Slong Street. Schlong Ave. Shlong Ave. In the corner of Schlongad and Pierce and Drept. Peterson, Dr. I don't like it when they put a name on it.

Other than Johnson and Dick, I guess Dick is a name. How come nobody ever calls it my Richard? Why, that should be a thing, right? It's too many Richards out there. It makes it feel like you have a sophisticated Johnson who, like, you know, studies at night for its doctorate and is writing a thesis statement on how subculture is actually arguably making a difference in humanity for the worst.

I don't know. It's just a bunch of buzz terms. Those are just looking around at the room and naming things you see. Mm-hmm. Nice. Remote. Lamp. Lamp.

Glasses. Subculture. Painting of a man breakdancing, which is, by the way, an art in the corner that nobody ever sees. But I put it. Yeah. I saw that.

I was wondering what the significant thing was. I actually think eventually I'm going to replace that one with this, because this one's starting to be in the background of most. The, the rappers. collage but that one's in the corner that i think eventually i'll make the switch i'm big on the aesthetic of my entire room looking good so i decorated that corner but it's off camera all the time when you see the breakdancing guy in the background of the left chair then um you will know that

that was just right and redecorating all right we got way off avenue on schlong boulevard so uh yeah and wang street so where were we i was talking about how it could reference like the like longing you might have for a person in your past and then how actually meeting them might be a different story so then it went to verse two we haven't played verse two right you're right or did you have another bit to throw on that no no we haven't done verse two yet okay put your vipers on for this next portion i just see that they're there so i kind of want you to put my vibes yeah put the vibes on as i play the next verse we're gonna jam well Greg's gonna throw his vibes on it's game time dude game time

Dang, there's a lot of, there's a lot going on there, man. You were actually following along with the lyrics. I was singing it. That's awesome. She had a place in his life. He never made her thing twice. All right, all right. Actually, like, poetize it a little bit.

Don't just, like, run through it because we don't all know the... Like I said, one of the fun things about the song is, like, I don't know what he's talking about the whole time. So we're trying to, like, figure that out for the first time ever, probably a little bit. Poetize it? Okay, let me get my poetry voice on. That's your poetry voice. She had a place in his life. He never made her thing twice.

As he rises to her apology, anybody else would surely know he's watching her go. He's watching her go. You know what I mean? Everybody else would surely know except for him. He doesn't want to watch her go, right? So that's why this is such a painful experience for him. Because who wants that?

Who wants to be left by someone? That sucks. But were they never together, I don't think. That's why he's what... He gives you that impression. Because that's what a fool believes. He believes there is something there. He just doesn't want to see here, God.

I think this whole thing is about him. Which... You know, we've all... Look, we've all been in situations where we're, like, kind of willingly ignoring what we see right in front of us, you know? Because we don't want to believe it. It's... I'll give you an example of that real quick.

It's kind of like, if a person always doesn't have time for you, and they're always giving you an excuse as to why they can't hang out, why they're busy. If you are really interested in that person and you're like invested, like you will take all of their excuses at face value. You'll be like, they just have that going on and there's that going on. And you're going to want to believe all the reasons that they're giving you to not see them.

And it's so much easier. Like if I was telling you about somebody and I kept explaining to you about how, oh, she doesn't want to see me because she's got this going on. And then she had this one. Like it'd be so much easier from your standpoint to be like, bro, I don't think that she's trying to see me. I think she's trying to make excuses. And it's so much easier to step when you step outside.

So I remember teaching myself that long ago being like, look, always remember if somebody wants to see you and they want to hang out with you, they will. They will find a way to make it do it, even though they might be a really busy person in life. So if I had to like reteach myself that over time and different avenues, news but yeah that's like that's i think the example of this is just like that is what a fool believes because you keep wanting to believe what is ultimately impossible is possible and that's what a fool believes the doobie brothers knew the doby brothers knew what the deal was they did they tried to teach us all back in 1979 we all should have listened we should have taken notes well here take this notepad write it down michael mcdonald is trying to teach

all he's trying to teach everybody every single one of you all learn from this man he doesn't just he's just the dude with golden pipes he's teaching us poetry he's teaching us life lessons you see that right there right in there right where the sunset goes over the river you know what I mean how's a good that was a good little passionate rant there my friend I have those sometimes and you know what you know who brings them out most Michael the doobies the doobies and the doobies and the dobies The dubs, as I call them. Actual dupies or the Dubebby brothers?

Both. Both, the same time. Let's finish this out. All right. Dubies, take us home. Dude. We should all be thinking Michael and Kenny. All the Michaels that have you, I mean.

Everybody that's ever been named Michael. Or anybody that ever has been named the dubies. Michael Jordan, Michael Johnson, St. Michael. Michael. Michael Longfell. Hey, Michael Lachmanfellow. New cast member of Senate life. I actually have a cousin named Michael.

Cousin Michael. Throw him in there too. Yeah. Michael is what Brian refers to his peepee as. Michael. Pee-P. Okay, if we're going down Johnson Street again, that's my least favorite one. Phoebe?

Yeah, I hate that. That just, like... Oh, you're too mature for peepee? Yes. Gosh, dude. Grow up. Yeah. Any guy that refers to their own weighing as a pee,

probably has a small Johnson, and that's the shlong and short of it, you know? Wow. How did this Doobie Brothers episode just turn into a long conversation about dicks? That was your doing, sir. You're right. I was a passenger in your car. Yeah, and I just drove us right down Pinas Avenue with no remorse. Took the keys out and turned the headlights off and said this is where we're going to stay.

We're going to get a hotel over here. This is where we're moving. and Peterson in is Peterson a dick term I just no I feel like it's just a respectable you know it it is now I made it happen yeah I feel like I always like ones that like the when there's a slang term for dick that's just like a name like Dave David dude dude my David right now I don't know about dude I'll workshop that we can all workshop David and Peterson okay so when we finish up I don't know how familiar are with how the DJs that dissect go,

but what we need to do is slap this out. Out of five slaps, what are we giving the, so five. Five being the best? That's a no-brainer for me, too. All right, slap it out. Give me the slaps. Oh, we do at the same time? No, you do, you do yours.

That was six. That's a first ever on the dissect DJs. That's a keeper. Giving six slaps, why? Give me just a quick rundown of, like, what the song. what does a fool believe about what are full beliefs I mean dude what does a Greg believe

you hit play and then you tell me you come back to me I feel like this this song is I mean we didn't even get into this but the way it builds the way the melody builds

builds it just takes you on that ride up and nearly never lets you down until the end honestly when it stops and you're sad I think it's a fantastic tune and it's one that really I never want to turn off when it comes on, honestly.

No, yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's like, when it starts to play, you're going to be like, you know what, I got time for this right now. Michael, I got time for you in my life. And as evidenced by that one day, when I kept following us, like, we never hit skip on it.

There's other times where that might happen in life where a song keeps playing and you're like, bro, I'm so sick of this song. Like, we were ready for it every single time. True story. All right, with that in mind, I'm going to give it. Doobie brothers, what a fool believes.

I'm going to go. I can't think. I got it. I got to. I got to give a five, you know. I got to say if Greg wasn't here, if this was a DJ Jag and Castle Affair, I might have dropped it down a notch,

but our history with it, your enthusiasm to give it a six slaps, I can't, who am I to stunt the dubies and Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins on the five slapper they deserve. So, bro, yeah. Come on. Well, thank you guys for tuning in.

This is Wang and Shafon, signing off. And we'll see you next Saturday. night. Yeah. I'm going to get Greg back on here now that he's familiar with the dissect DJ's setting. I'm still getting used to it, but yeah, I like it. Yeah, and we will dissect accordingly. Until then, Greg, let me teach you how we get out of here, all right? I'm assuming the front door. It's actually the back. On three, me and you hit him with it next, okay? You ready? Put on the vipers for it. Get right in the camera's face about it, all right? All right.

All right. For the dissected DJs, I'm Castle. That's Greg. Ready? Yes. What are you doing? Next! A little word got it.

He's new.