Dissect DJs - The Mighty Ducks (1992 Movie)

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

We're back with another classic full movie review as Castle is joined by "J-Wey" Jason Malabuyoc to break down one of the most iconic sports movies of the 90s, that immediately went from f...ictional Disney hockey team to real life hockey team in the NHL- The Mighty Ducks!Full video podcast can be found on YouTube @RyCastle, link here: https://youtu.be/qiI7KYFdclA.A full dissection of the entire movie from beginning to end, taking on the most memorable scenes, characters, conspiracy theories, and we give our MVP and 6th Man off the Bench Awards of the movie, discussing what makes this movie so legendary. Quack Quack Quack Quack Mr. Ducksworth! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:03 All right, Gordon, it's up to you. I don't want to see any goats around here after the game. You got it? Now, you miss this shot. You're not just letting me down, you're letting your whole team down too. A chance to win the game. What a heartbreaker, little Gordon bomb bang. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It is your DJs that like to spin it, mix it, throw up back, and dissect it. And we got another special movie review dissect for you. Joining me today is another special guest host. Mr. J-Way, Jason Malibuyak. What is up, man? Always good to be back. Made it out here to a beautiful Hermosa Beach and just ready to break it down.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yes, and Jason had to come in today because I told him if you missed this podcast, you're not only letting me down, you're letting the whole team down. And that's the last thing I wanted to do. No, those are powerful words. There's no way that anybody can hear those words and not just like shoot straight for the puck, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:26 Or the net. Shoot straight for the net. I want to know where does that rank on the all-time Mount Rushmore of inspirational speeches, would you think? It's up there. I mean, you know, the first time I watched, by the way, do they know what we're even talking about right now? That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:41 We should actually... You know what? I'm going to play a little sound by beforehand. And there will be a title at the name of the episode. But let's go ahead and let's bring it up. The episode today is about the legendary very 1992 film The Mighty Ducks
Starting point is 00:01:57 quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack quack go ducks I'm hyped now I don't know about y'all that was very good
Starting point is 00:02:09 considering that was our first time doing that chant together we haven't done it all day actually we've resisted I held it off for the pod and after dealing with technical issues for the last hour and a half
Starting point is 00:02:20 I am very excited to finally get to the point where we can talk about a fictional hockey team that turned into a real hockey team from a 1993 Disney film because that's really what life is all about Jason. That's like reverse. Normally you are a team and then they make a movie about you. This was, let's make a movie and then make a team out of it. That brings me to this.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I have a question for all the duck fans out there. And I mean the Anaheim duck fans. Are you guys aware that the origination of your team's name comes from a fictional law firm tycoon from a Disney movie in 1992. Because that's really where it all started, Jason. Mr. Ducksworth. Gerald Duxworth. His name was Gerald?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Gerald Duxworth, yeah. And his legend still lives on today via the Anaheim Ducks, which still swim the the pond proudly, which is actually not called the pond anymore. It's called the Honda Center, but it's still the pond to me. And they also took out the mighty out of the Ducks. It took the mighty away at some point. I feel like that was coinciding with, at a certain point. They were not being owned by Disney anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And similar to, like, I think it was, like, around the same time the Anaheim Angels took away their big, like, A-wing logo and kind of had less of a cartoony look. I think that was also around the time the ducks lost the mighty because they decided, you know, this mighty shit is kind of gay. It kind of loses its luster, though, you know. I expect ducks to be mighty if I want to fear them. If you're just an Anaheim duck, I'm like, are you, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Should I feed you some slices of bread? Yeah. I can sit on this bench and, like, Watch you muddle around just a bit in the bushes, but they needed to come out of the gate mighty, though, for them to be taking seriously. I was going to hate on Anaheim real quick, and I kind of caught myself, but I'm like, if you're an Anaheim duck, are you a criminal? Still. Are you a cruck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Are you a crook? Oh, my goodness. Write that down. How could you be a crook if you came from a law firm? Hello? You can definitely be. This is what, I mean, this movie teaches us something. If you're from a law firm, you could be up to all kind of, like, sketchy business.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But you can also run a youth peewee hockey team. And that is something that we learned from Mr. Gordon Bombay. I have a timeline here for you, because I was curious about how this movie in coinciding with the team came to be. So, October 1992, movie gets released in theaters. December 1992, just two months later, the NHL awards a hockey team to the city of Anaheim, which is then owned by the Disney Corporation. October 1993, the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim take the end. ice. So this all happened within like a year span. This movie comes out before they're even like sure
Starting point is 00:04:57 how successful it is in theaters. They're already naming a team to ducks just two months later. So I mean like think about that like in our times like a movie that came out two months ago already would be having an entire sports team named after it. Like that would that would send shockwaves. It's putting a lot of hope on the movie that you just released being a successful like long running franchise. Unfortunately for Anaheim and all of their fan base, they hit a home run with this one because this is a hockey movie that I don't think me and you are even like really big hockey fans, right? I used to be. I played a lot of roller hockey like a lot of kids did in our age. We played roller hockey, crushed a can, used that as a puck. Fuck yeah, dude. Hockey's took the shit out of it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I kind of took a break, you know? Yeah. I grew up. I don't know. Yeah. I've never, hockey has always been sort of a hard fourth or fifth on the list of my favorite sports. I get into it when the Kings make a run to the Cup. And out here in Hermosa, the South Bay loves the Kings more than any other team. So it gets exciting. But other than that, you know what, I can't really be asked to watch regular season hockey. Playoff hockey gets a little bit more exciting. I kind of like it when the games go into like mad extra overtime.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That's always fun. In person, going to a hockey game totally different from watching on TV. TV, but I can't name any players right now. I don't know about you. I used to be able to. Anjig Hopatar, my favorite Los Angeles King. I think he's still playing. That's what so.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And I think Mike Madonna was still playing. What about Basil McCray? Basil McCray. Basil McCray coming off the bench. Coming off the bench in the middle of the movie. Dropping in a check on Gordon Bombay, you know, meet the whole squad. I think Basil McCray calls him a farmer. He's like, he says, I heard you were a farmer with his, like, Canadian accent.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He's so Canadian. And so Canadian right there. Hey, Gordo. Like, yeah. Hey, Gordon Bonte, right? You remember me? Sure, from peewees. This guy used to rule in peewees.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh, yeah? I heard you're a farmer. Actually, I became a lawyer. I'm coaching pee now, and this is my team, the Ducks. Ducks, this is Basil McCray and Mike Medano. To be fair, Gordon, like, he handles it gracefully. He's like, I actually, I'm a lawyer. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Is that, like, some shit talk? Were you throwing at my? I don't know. I didn't get what you were going for right there. But no, I'm actually a lawyer, and this is my team. They'd love to meet the Minnesota North Stars, as they were known at the time. Then turned into the Dallas Stars, a lot of moving parts. So, as our movie coverage, because I would like to just kind of do sort of a little bit of a rundown.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Got a couple main notes. Let's pick it right back up with this. You miss the shot. You're not just letting me down. you're letting the whole team down. Start of this movie is like honestly really awesome. The way it's shot, this cinematic view of it, the way it's kind of got that like sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:59 filter over it that you can tell you're looking at something from back in the day. The music. I have come to a point now when I just love when movies like get me right in. Like give me a scene right away that I can get invested in. We know we're watching a past moment that it. is young Emilio Estevez. And, you know, we see this traumatic moment that just ends up not only defining his entire adult life, but apparently the entire town in this random city in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah, they came in pretty hot. I just want to say during the credits, you're still reading who's producing the movie, who's the key grip or whatever. I'm not familiar with those terms. And then, like you said, all of a sudden, a little dusky, little misty. Little dusky, yeah. Little Gordon looks like a four-year-old, not-confident boy about to take the biggest shot of his life. And then the goalie is about in his mid-20s with the skeleton mask to make it even more intimidating.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Fuck, yeah, 70s hockey. You know what? If I grew up in the 70s, I almost feel like I would have been more of a hockey fan just because it looks so much more gritty. Everybody's had those, like, hardcore masks the goalies did. Nobody wore helmets. There's something about like 70s hockey that just, it's just even more, all the more badass. But yeah, what a classic throwback scene that is. Great way to start the movie.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You get Coach Riley with the most inspirational words of all time. You're not just letting me down. You're letting the whole team down. So here's my Mount Rushmore of inspirational. I think it's Al Pacino in any given Sunday. Great speech. Right. Denzel.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Remember the Titans? Billy Bob in Friday Night Lights. And Coach Riley, letting you know. He's not sugar-coding it, you know? Yeah, no pressure, but if you miss this shot, everyone's going to fucking hate you, including myself. You're going to let your parents down, all the kids at the pond that you play with, you know, the milk guy, everyone's going to fucking hate you. Milkman will hate you. How far we've come as a society to where that was the inspiration that you would get in 1973.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know what? And it hardened young Amelio, aka Gordon Bombay to become the hardcore winningest lawyer in the state of Minnesota that he became. win you know can we not thank maybe coach riley for turning him into the winner that he is you know he had that hardcore taste of defeat and riley let him know he looks at him and he shakes his head he's like do you let me down kid you're never going to be friends with me in 20 years when we maybe meet back up at this hockey rink and then he's like you know what i never want to lose again becomes a badass lawyer we immediately jump back into the future into now and Gordon is just crushing it the way is playing that courtroom like a damn viola i actually love the move where he goes over to his client
Starting point is 00:10:49 and he's like hey i'm not saying anything but just pretend like i'm talking to you and just head nod your head the judge hates it when i like uh you know i make him wait and he's like calling him over i love that strategy great strat from gordon right there and then i don't even remember what exactly he says but he literally brings up one thing from the past and the judge folds like a launcher because like wasn't that you judge that that was your ruling and he's like overruled to your objection to the other guy. He doesn't just say overruled. He literally gets immediate panic in his eyes.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And he does that like Disney stepover guy thing, the character that gets stomped on, he's like, uh, uh, overruled. Your honor, the applicability of societal intent vis-a-vis individual action is well established. I'm citing Minneapolis v. Higgins in which the appellate court overruled a judge who disallowed similar testimony. Now, if I'm not mistaken, that was you. Wasn't it, Judge Weathers? I stand corrected, counselor.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Objection overruled. Gordon walks out with another victory. Hops in his hot red. A little vet. A little corvette. A little vet. And my question then becomes, so now next thing you know, he is just cruising. Just bottle rumping.
Starting point is 00:12:04 It just takes a quick turn for like a kids movie. Yeah. And we're like, we want to root for the guy. We're like, bro. I think arguably we're not even sure if we want to root for Gordon because he kind of comes off. As this hot shot lawyer that like, you know, is all about winning. He'll do anything. He literally says right at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He's like, oh, you have no idea how low I'll be willing to sink or whatever. Something like that. Oh, you're really stooped to an all-time low on this one, Bombay. I'm insulted by that, Frank. You have no idea how low I can stoop. So we're not sure if we actually want to root for him. Like usually movies don't want you to like root for lawyers, I've noticed. You know, they're kind of like the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:12:45 So he's totally playing that hot child lawyer thing. Next thing you know, he's just cruising in his missile. Just swigging Heineken's glass bottles. Bottles. Not even like, let me get some cans. Not even like, I just like pour a little room in this can of Coca-Cola. No, he's just swiging it. Swerving in the snow?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Dude. But my question is, did the officer pull him over? because he was swerving and bottle romping it in the driver's seat, or was it just because he saw his driver's license said, Just win. A combination of the two. You got to get that guy. If you're an officer and you see a Just Win,
Starting point is 00:13:21 kind of even go an ounce over the speed limit, you're pulling that guy over for sure. You're like, hey, guess what? It's time to lose. And then he rolls down the window and what's playing, and I look this up for us. That's right, yeah. We're going to get a little sound clip of this one,
Starting point is 00:13:35 a little sound clip for you, but it's a song called Hey Man by the Poor Boys, which of course no one's ever heard of, but go ahead and look it up because it's like the most 90s song ever, and he had just gotten in an argument with his boss. Yeah. And the lyrics are like, hey, Mr. Questford. Get off my back and I'm going to just win and drink and I don't know. Just see the lyrics. It's fucking fantastic.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Okay, we're going to play it right now. Hey man, you're a badass. Get your drive on. Go drink. That's actually very. close and now we know where smash mouth got the lyrics for their song inspiration comes from all forms there you go who's sampled who especially in the 1992 film mighty ducks so then my question becomes Gordon gets in trouble obviously with the law he gets kind of a lenient sentence because he's
Starting point is 00:14:43 homies with mr. duck's worth the law firm kind of hooks him up so my question then becomes is forcing a known felon who has been known to drive with open containers of alcohol through the snowy streets of Minnesota is forcing him to be the coach of a pee-wee hockey team really a just sentence is that a serviceable sentence on paid leave by the way uh he's getting paid for it like while he's yeah he's what a boss it's a boss move on his end and he's like acting pissed off about it but can we spare a thought for like the parents of these hockey teams are like oh you just you're getting a new coach? What's his deal?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, he's being forced to coach us because he was swerving on the snowy street, ripping out shots of tequila and just, you know, just winning it all down the road at 80 miles an hour. So, yeah, that's your coach now. Have fun with him, kids. We're going to leave you alone with him for multiple hours a day. That's him on the ice in his limo. What a great coach.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And here he is. He's driving right up on the ice in a limo and stacking kids in his, in a vehicle just like he had speeding around the snowy streets, you know? So then we meet the team. And I got to say, the cast of the team of the Mighty Ducks, kind of a legendary squad, actually. Let's do a quick little cast roll call of like some of the notable members of the team. First of all, we have a young Joshua Jackson who I was watching this and I'm like, why do I feel like I know this kid?
Starting point is 00:16:15 And I'm like looking at him closer. and I was like, is that Joshua Jackson? Little Charlie, Joshua Jackson, goes on later to be known for his Dawson's Creek fame, and nothing else of note that I recall after that, but he was probably in a bunch of rom-coms and shit. I don't know. It seems like something he was doing in the late 90s.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Was he in the Skulls? That was a good movie. Yes, the Skulls. Let's go. Pop-Bop. I never watched it. Heard good things. I didn't actually.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Good movie. Yeah. So we had Joshua Jackson. Little Pete from Pete and Pete and Pete. Pete? I don't know if you ever watched that on Nickelodeon. Was that Pete, Mark? I don't know if he had a... Is that the one that wore the leather jacket so you can see how
Starting point is 00:16:54 much of a trouble making? No, who was that kid? That kid looks familiar too. I don't know, but I didn't know they made leather jackets that small so you could look like a young Bruce Springsteen. But it's important that he was wearing it at every scene just so you know he was the badass one. He's the one with the edge to him. A little edgy. He always had the attitude.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Did you ever have any kids in like elementary school who like showed up to school with the leather jacket? Leather jacket, absolutely not. No, me neither. But if you saw someone wearing a leather jacket, what would you think? Oh, that kid's badass. I'm going to fucking, let's hang out by the swing set and just, you know, shoot the shit of why you're wearing a leather jacket. And I don't want to piss him off while I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Because he will make me eat the sand below the swing set real quick, clearly. He actually looks like one of those kids that showed up in like 90s movies that I grew up on watching. But nothing like stood out to me. I'm sure if I actually searched his IDB, I would find something. Then we, I wrote, then we had the, the fat kid from heavyweights. Goldberg. And then I wrote, and then there was the other fat kid from heavyweights. Carp.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And I think another one on that team was even in there too. So the cast of heavyweights just, uh, I feel like they probably shot them back to back to. It feels like around the time. And they're just like, hey, we've got the whole squad. We're going to sign you to a two movie deal. And you know what else? They pulled in Keenan Thompson too and then just swoop. swooped him on D2.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So he got added to the squad, you know, he was just part of it. Great, good callback. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were a true team, you know, just quacking all the way. Averman? Averman, okay. Fucking Averman. I got to say, about Averman, as I was watching this last night, I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:32 I honestly kind of hate myself for ever thinking that kid was funny at all. I feel like his whole the copy guy stick, like Rob Schneider's played out role that he used to do with the same character every week on Saturday Night Live back in the day. Just like, oh, it's the Steve Meister, Stephen around, Steve, Steve, Steve, O'Rino, and he's just doing that. And I hate the idea that maybe when I first saw this when I was probably like six or seven years old, like I probably thought that was funny. but that kid's a one-note stick that gets no laughs from me he honestly
Starting point is 00:19:11 he's actually the fuck over to get him he honestly he honestly probably the most annoying kid on the team I know he's kind of supposed to be
Starting point is 00:19:24 but he was also supposed to be like the comic relief it actually dates this movie arguably more than anything else into 1992 so there's a good chance that modern day kids
Starting point is 00:19:35 watching it have no idea what act he's doing maybe they find it fresh and new and funny i don't know i don't want to jump too far ahead because we're talking about the first one yeah but it always bothers me that averman made team usa somehow because what the fuck you couldn't find one other person better than he was an ape meister fucking hit it with the hockey stick meister they had to keep the comic relief as part of the squad and he had like that awkward voice i don't know yeah that kid sucked which is why connie now connie the one of the girls on the team called calls him a jerk at one time in the movie and I'm like, hell yeah. This is why we like Connie.
Starting point is 00:20:09 He's such a jerk. It was perfect. Wait, wait, Connie was, I thought the girl's name was, the girl's name was Duncan, I thought, right? Connie Moreau. Oh, is this, are you talking about D2? No, D1, still. Were there multiple girls on two? Connie Moreau and, and Guy Germain.
Starting point is 00:20:24 They're like the couple where Guy's trying to hook up, I guess, between two movies that never kissed her because fast forward again in the second one, he's about to kiss her. And he's like, I was this close. Wait, wait, wait, are we talking about, the character names or the actor names? No, these are the characters. Because you're going to lose me if you're talking actor names. These are character names.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Okay. Connie Moreau, Gie Jermaine. You're thinking of Tammy Duncan, who was the figure skater. Yeah. So there's, are you telling me there's multiple girls on this team? I didn't even realize that. Connie Moreau is the one that kind of looks like a young guy. Don't I feel like a sex as fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:58 I just thought there was one girl. I just thought there was one girl on the team. I don't know. Maybe they looked the same to me. Yeah, I thought the girl on the team was the figure skater. She calls him a jerk, and it's fantastic because Averman is a fucking jerk, right? No, he just sucks. He sucks.
Starting point is 00:21:13 He's not funny. He's clearly not a talented skater or hockey player. He just stands off to the side, does his little Rob Schneider commentary, and nobody was laughing at any point. And Gordon was right to punch him in the back of the head. Did that happen? Did I make that up? I think you just kind of put yourself in his shoes and be like, if I were the coach. It was glorious.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm going to literally punch him in the back of the head. I mean. It's okay, though, because I'm the coach. We all kind of wanted to see a little bit, though. But, yeah, I mean, it was 1992 also, and everybody would have been, I mean, they fucking tied up Goldberg to a net and just firing, squatted hockey pucks at them for like 10 minutes straight. And I was thinking about as I was watching that,
Starting point is 00:21:56 like speaking of the difference between how it was back then and now, like, if there was footage of a hockey coach. doing a fire, like tying up their goalie and then just fire squatting like hundreds of pucks like directly at him and he can't even like use his body parts to block it. Arguably ends up in jail. At least if nothing else becomes a notable like court case that everybody's talking about and everybody's voicing their opinion on that he should be put to jail or if not death, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:29 The coach? Yes. And made all the worst by the fact that then they also just leave him. tied up. And they just all go grab for ice cream Sundays. So I can just leave him here. Massive oversight on Gordon's part. You guys hungry?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah. Talk out of yourself. I like it. No joke. Come on guys. Different time, different age. And speaking of that, one of the other things I took note of is like there's no way that kids nowadays could ever understand the joy that kids growing up in the 90s felt for getting
Starting point is 00:23:19 strangers to touch poop. Like there was something about getting somebody you didn't know to accidentally unwillingly touch feces that really ralled up the kids of the main shit. They actually, they went dumpster diving just so
Starting point is 00:23:35 they can prank someone to touch poop. Did I? That's commitment right there. Did I recall this? Was there a point when like they're watching like a dog like take a shit and they're like, and he did it? Like did I remember? They literally said he shoots, he scores or something when a dog to shit.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And then what they don't show is how did you get that shit in the purse? Where did you get the purse from either? Then why are you? No, they dumpsters dive for it. They just found a purse in the dumpster? He's like, got one. And I'm like, one, you're in a dumpster. That makes me believe that this is not their first dumpster either.
Starting point is 00:24:06 No, not at all. They have spent their afternoon literally diving into heaps of trash. They got a map of hot dumpsters that they can just jump into at any given point. Simply for the two-second thrill of getting some guy they don't know. to maybe touch his index finger on just a little bit of shit, just a tiny bit. And that was the highlight of their day. And that was it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And you know what? It was all worth it. They earned that joy. Joy comes to the Gen Z kids way too easily these days, man. Like they had to work for that. It was such a minor piece of their day, but they're all going to remember that for the rest of their life. Can I just say one thing about the team, though? We talked about how he meets the team.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And the thing that one of the things that bothered me the most about that is the whole team is a bunch of fucking shitheads, right? They're all fucking being smart asses. And the second he shows any kind of attitude, they're like, well, you can't tell you. We're like, we're kids. And I'm like, bro, he's going to match your energy. Like, fuck you little shits. He's busy. He's going to have some coffee in the limo.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And he's got to win cases. And you guys don't mean anything to him. Yeah. And then they play victim. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't know what that says if what kind of coach I would be. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I mean, not as restrained as Gordon Bombay was. I like that he is, he's unwillingly going back to be a hockey coach, even though he has this, like, deep back story that apparently still gets talked about to the town this day. And I wonder, like, what does it say about this town in Minnesota that they're still all, like, continuing to discuss this Peewee Hockey League final from 1973, 20 years later? Like, why is this still such a talking point in this town that gets brought up? Why does Hans have a newspaper clipping framed of Gordon missing the shot? That's like the first thing you see when you walk in the shot. And the fact that Hans is fucking just like laying back in the cut at the game, like being all mysterious. It's like, bro, just go talk to him, Hans.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That shot, that first shot when he's just like Hans and he gives one of these, he's just like. Yeah. And he disappears so. fast and like that guy's not moving that fast. You're like immediately like, whoa, what's Hans deal? Yeah. And what's his deal with Gordon? I need to know the backstory of this guy. Turns out he's like, I don't even know, like he runs like a shop that like sharpen
Starting point is 00:26:33 skates or something. Like the, the shop. And has all this sports paraphernalia on the wall. Center stage is the 1973 pee-wee hockey finals when Gordon missed the shot. It's framed. The first day is. Why would you frame? frame that and like the pictures like Gordon's like missing it and he looks all sad and the
Starting point is 00:26:54 headline says something like Bombay messes up chance for like hawks ninth straight district championship and it's and he's just like you know it reminds me of like the Simpsons when Homer says something like he's like you know my dream has always been to be a monorail conductor and she's like your dream was to run on the field at a baseball game And you did that. And then she, like, points to, like, a newspaper clipping. And it's, like, dumb idiot, ruins game. And he just goes, I still don't understand why you got that framed.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Because it was like to find. Like, why would you have that framed in the first place? And then let alone keep it there for 20 years. Just so, like, Gordon gets it, like, further driven in his head that he fucked up. And he's supposed to be the father figure, right? Like, I'm... Yeah. But here, I just want to remind you how bad you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Yeah. But now get your shit together. Stop crying. And it... Seems like everybody else in the town is ready to do that as well. And also, Hans, for some reason, has, like, the entire standings of pee-week hockey, like, etched on the wall. He's, like, devoted an entire wall to his shop to keep up with the standings. And I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like, is the whole town, thus following Hans' word as to, like, where everybody sits? Because he's literally got, like, every team. And I don't even notice, but he says one team. He's like, as you know, the Panthers, they're out for the whole season because they got struck with the measles. I saw a theory. Are we sure that Gordon didn't come in with the winning mentality he has? Literally puts fucking just win on his license plate. Did he enter this league and it was just immediately figured out a way to infect the Panthers with measles?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Because as he says it, if you look at Gordon, he just kind of gives like a little like, I heard something about that. Oh, yeah. They did? What? What? Measles. That's terrible. I thought they extracted.
Starting point is 00:28:50 That is numb. So we just need one win, right? Don't we need one more win? We beat the Cardin? Yeah, we can do that. The docks have a shot at the playoffs. Sure. Everyone with the last two teams are in.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Remember, the Panthers got the measles, and they forfeited the season. So you beat the Huskies, and you make the playoffs. I don't know. It feels like Hans might be keeping track. I would say more intense than anybody else, but they do also have a headline clipping at one point that's safe of the town newspaper that just states ducks and cardinals tie which is like so can I just say real quick
Starting point is 00:29:26 and I appreciate you having on this podcast it's always a good time to be here and we we take notes and we laugh because we use the word fucking a lot I just want to say one quick note that I had on here it just says fucking Hans wait I have just so much you just say that and if you know the movie you're like
Starting point is 00:29:44 yeah he's the fucking guy that's just you know behind the scenes fucking Hans man I had a note that was exactly just that it was just fucking, well, I took my notes with my notepad. So I wrote it in that one. So I might have reworded it differently once I transferred it to the computer. But one of my notes was just fucking Mike Madonna or something like that. The fucking is always a good thing.
Starting point is 00:30:11 The fucking. That's me into it J-Ways thing. So great. We've been doing it for years. Fucking. Fuck. I got fucking. I got fucking Coach Riley's color pop.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Fucking, I enjoyed it thoroughly. I literally have a line that says fucking Coach Riley. I skate. I enjoyed it thoroughly. These are the details of because if I see this note and it says fucking Hans, I'm like, I'm going to talk. We know how to go from there. Fucking Coach Riley, I'm thinking, I taught you how to go for the W. It's just shit like that, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You already know. Big time Shooter McGavin vibes with a collar pop Beautiful collar pop And he does it like when they're playing in the championship game too He looks over at them as they're like up 3-0 And he's like You know what my favorite line drink is though Like they play the ducks for their first game
Starting point is 00:31:00 And they're just fucking romping on them right Right And he's getting mad at his kids for celebrating He's like anybody can beat these pansies I'm like my man right there dude You don't give a shit This is how he's gonna coach that's it One note I took on that game
Starting point is 00:31:15 I said there are way too many fans cheering on the hawk's 16th goal if you look they score their 16th goal and the whole stands behind them erupt in applause like they're amped for every single one of these goals and it just got to feel like you know if you're in the cheering section of the hawks you know maybe act like you've been there a little bit before when they score goal number 16 because you have so hockey is the religion in minnesota clearly and they still talk about peewee hockey games that happened 20 years ago, which by the way, I love the row of banners, 20 years straight of like Hawks championships.
Starting point is 00:31:55 All black. And then there's the one yellow second place banner. I wish they would take that one down. Why do they put it up? Why was that even bannered? Clearly this team is above second place. It almost feels like everybody in this town is doing things just to needle at Charlie, not Charlie, to needle at Gordon.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Oh, 100%. Just to like make sure he knows how much he fun. fucked up that one penalty shot. It all makes sense as to why Gordon decided he hates hockey and needed to just win as much as he can where he can. And that's in the courtroom where clearly he's a boss. Which, by the way, that then brings me back to one of the main points of this movie that I think is the key turning moment of the entire movie, that where everything turns on an axis. The Gordon Bombay heel turn.
Starting point is 00:32:44 So we meet Gordon. He's got a little edge to him. He's kind of got out of that win at all costs. He's a hot shot lawyer. He wants to teach Charlie to take a dive, you know, and teach his kids to, like, you know, do whatever it takes to win. If you can cheat a little bit and that helps get points on the scoreboard, you do that.
Starting point is 00:33:05 But then he gets softened up mostly, I think, because of the arrival of Charlie's mom. And she's able to soften. the hard exterior because he's like, you know what? Actually, I think, um, I think there could be some pluses here by getting on Charlie's good side. So, and Charlie's just nudging it along the whole way, you know, playing wingman, pimping out his mom. Just, just, you know, what a stay for dinner? Like, what? How many times has she, has he had to ask? I say Charlie's mom does the invite, at least once, you know? Back to the heel turn. So he finds some legal loophole in the system that
Starting point is 00:33:43 pulls the best player off the hawks based on like some gerrymandering of the districts that states this kid that's played the whole season with his friends and his coach the hawks i'm actually going to swipe that kid over here because i figured out some legal jargon that's going to allow me to do it right and so he's forced over to the ducks the coach and adam banks the kid that he gets his dad they show up to Duxworth's office and they have a very reasonable plan to be like, hey, these are his kids, his brothers have always been Hawks, this is in our family, so we've kind of like taken the action to be like, we need to have them actually on the Hawks. I'm sure you can understand. And fucking Gordon is so addicted to winning that not only would he give another team measles, he's going to make sure
Starting point is 00:34:41 he gets this kid he's like what have you seen how sharp he is on the wing i need that kid on my team he goes and brings the whole team to his argument is like i'm not going to give up on these kids by the way in the last scene we learned all the kids fucking hate they fucking hate adam they don't want any of the team they literally storm out one by one and walk past them they're not interested in having them literally you're the only one on the team that wants them so can we cycle what happens next. Gordon ends up quacking at his boss. Several times. He's done all these legal loopholes to try to pull this kid away from his team and is where his family likes to be. They've simply asked, can you actually let him go back? And he puts his job on the line for it. And he's willing to
Starting point is 00:35:31 lose his job at a high shot lawyer firm just to get this kid on a team so he can win some pee-wee hockey league. And when it's denied, when his boss tells him, I'm literally going to fire you keep pushing this. What's his response? Quack, crack, crack, crack, crack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, Mr. Duckler. Gordon, stop quacking. He's like, no, I'm going to double down.
Starting point is 00:35:55 No, I'm going to continue to quack harder. Guess what, knock, knock, who's there? Quack, quack, quack, quack. And it fucking does the arms and everything. And I'm not going to let those kids down. Gordon, I'm going to make this simple. Are you prepared to lose your job over some kids, Some may ask you, sir.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Collect your personal belongings, Gordon. Yes, sir, Mr. Duxworth. Thank you very much, Mr. Duxworth. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. Gordon, stop quack, quack, quack, quack. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. This is a meltdown of nuclear proportions. I want you to imagine.
Starting point is 00:36:50 It's like one of those moments. Imagine we start the movie. with just Gordon in Ducksworth's office, and he's just quacking at him on his desk. And he's like, quack, quack, quack. And then it pauses, and it's like, yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up here. Let me explain what led to this meltdown.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Freeze frame. Record scratch. Arguably, one of the greatest meltdowns in Semina history that isn't talked about enough, but he gets bailed out from not being fired after getting a DUI with an open container while cruising the streets to, What was the song?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Hey man by the poor boys. Hey man, you're a poor boy. Hey man, you're a poor boy. Get your drink on. Go drive. So he's able to get a paid leave for doing that. But then his attempts to steal a kid from the rival hockey team
Starting point is 00:37:43 to pull him with some district loophole, that's not going to fly with Ducksworth. And that man discontinuing his allegiance with the Ducks and yet that team still carries his name to this day. Gerald Duxworth. Should be an Anahean legend. They should put a statue of him out there. Not this Walt Disney shit.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Anaheim, you are glorifying the wrong legend. So anyways, yeah, that was just my favorite moment in the movie. You know the thing about Adam Banks too, though? Like, obviously he introduces him to the team, brings him in. One, he walks in with his hawks bag, I'm like, bold move. And everyone's, like, walking by him like... That's the bag. He has.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Like, by the way, I never knew. So because I like to eat cake every now and then that you're going to hold that against me. Who came up with that line? Who is a cake eater? What if that was just like a nickname he received at like a birthday party when he was seven? And he's just never outran it. Like they're like, Adam, are you really going in for a fifth slice of cake? And he's like, I'm hungry.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And I was like, hey, look at this cake eater. Yeah, look at this cake eater. You know who? I feel like could have adorned that nickname on him and probably would have stuck is Goldberg. That feels like a Goldberg move. He was like, oh, look this cakey get over here. Cake eater.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Cake eater. While Goldberg's eating cake too. He's definitely got a cake. He has a cake for her. But he's like, acknowledgmentably fat. He's just like, yeah, I'm the fat kid. I don't care, you know. He was proud of being the heaviest kid and the heavyweights camp.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And he worked at like a sandwich shop. Yeah, you know. But anyway, what I was going to say to real quick about Adam Banks is they give him shit. They don't like him. He's a hawk. He's not a duck. And then you fast forward to the game.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And Gordon's like, pass it to Banks. And what does he do right away? He scores a goal. And what do they do? They fucking run up and hug him. Yeah. Where to go bangs? And it's like, wait, do you just hate him?
Starting point is 00:39:40 And now he scored a goal? Like, these kids, I don't know, man. More evidence that all you need to do is win. Just win. Gordon had it read all the time. Just win, baby. Put it on a license plate. If you win all it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 is forgiven, you know? What is the difference between how we remember Michael Vic and O.J. Simpson? Well, what their crimes did were massively different things. I'm saying that. But the point is, Michael Vick did winning after his crime. So he people, it gave time to be like, you know what? I'm actually okay with him. O.J. Simpson, he was already done with his football playing career. There's no winning left in that tank, so nobody's going to forgive him for that. There was probably another. example I could have used that was less harsh but it was escaping me at the moment but it'll come to you it'll come can I actually also throw out that you know and we're going to take some heat for this because I know you're going to agree with me but the one we laughed at the name of the ducks but I saw what
Starting point is 00:40:39 Gordon was doing that's how he was going to get money for the team but once you get that $15,000 and everyone's buying all the gear that logo the original Ducks logo is one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the ugliest logos you could ever come up with. The original jersey. So I might get heat for that because Ducks fans are going to be like, no, man, you don't even know. No. No. Look at the logo and tell me that thing is fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I don't even remember that being the logo. Because the logo I remember was the, like, I remember having some Dux gear when I said like, like, let it be known. Like, when I was a kid growing up with this movie, like, Dux gear was hot for a minute. You know what I mean? The Duk hockey mask one. The hockey mask one is the one I remember. That one was sick. That's D2.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah. Okay. But the original one. And like the green and he's like a duck playing hockey. It literally, it looked like plucky from Tiny Tunes. Yeah, it's pretty bad. You know? Those kids were right to jeer at the name.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, I mean, I'm going to wear this jersey and the duck looks like that. I mean, I don't know. Also did. They got hooked up in D2 though. I will say that. Yeah, the gear got fresh for sure. And that was the logo that I remember, like having a shirt of and seeing around. Yeah, the hockey mask duck logo way cooler.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I want to know if Gordon just freestyled the mighty part of it just as he was like kind of getting the kids going he was getting him in on it which kid is the first one that goes in is it Fulton Fulton Yeah we gotta talk we gotta talk about Fulton I don't know to skate did you notice and this this connects to Fulton
Starting point is 00:42:20 How much little giants DNAs in this movie There is so many similarities I kept noticing it as I was watching this Like, first of all, the first game they're playing, they don't like have uniforms. They're just kind of like wearing random gear they pulled out of the garage. One kid has like a plastic football helmet. I remember, I feel like in the first game of the little giants, it was like the same thing. There was like a kid wearing like a chess protector, like a catcher's chest protector.
Starting point is 00:42:50 There's probably a kid with a hockey helmet. It's like a makeshift. It was just makeshift. It was just makeshift. Mishmash team of just like whatever you can pull out. Then you had the ringer that they just found. you know, and in Little Giants, that was Spike in the Ducks, it's Fulton. And then there's the, you know, deep-seated kind of rivalry that lives in the shadow of our main protagonist.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's sort of a shadow of his past that's always kind of over him that he has to overcome, you know. And in Little Giants, that's Rick Moranis trying to overcome Ed O'Neill. And here we have Gordon, Bombay, trying to finally beat Coach Riley with a much more established team where he got all the good kids, you know, they're clearly more skilled. And he just has to coach this rag-tag crew of mish-mash-nobodies and turn them into a winning group. And he does it by motivational speeches by simply saying one word repeatedly. Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. To the point that he literally has them quacking at his principal, at their principal.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Principal. Why did the quacking thing never take off with like Anaheim Ducks fans? I've never like been to a game. I think at some point it did. But I think after a while people that were actually at the games like, when they lost the mighty and the Disney aspect, they probably lost the quack chant. But I like to think that that was probably a thing.
Starting point is 00:44:12 It's not a bad chant for like a stadium to get like people hyped on. Also about Fulton. Why does Gordon have him? So we meet Fulton when they're, just driving and his driver his car gets like just his window shattered and he's like holy shit what was that kid was just firing
Starting point is 00:44:32 hockey pucks just into the street rogily just slap shot him into oncoming traffic so then Gordon goes and runs him down and he's like I don't give shit about the car let me see your slap shot hit another practice shot for me so
Starting point is 00:44:48 why does he have him then face directly at his same car break another one It's it again. Dude, you're like surrounded by alley walls. Hit literally any other direction. Hold that.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It was an accident, right? Never mind the window. Where'd you learn to shoot like that? Didn't learn, I just do it. Do it again. Well, you're great at breaking windows. Gordon's like, fuck it. That's not my car, man.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I don't even like that driver. You know how much that... When he first got in the driver's car, it actually kind of reminded me of like a precursor of what was to come. in the future with chatty Uber drivers. He's like, he's like telling him. He's like, oh yeah, back in the 70s, I used to drive the stones, man. It was a party.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And he's like, I didn't ask for any information on your backstory. Man, that was the life. Chicks, parties, amps cranked up to about 8 trillion decibels. Doctor said all that loud music damage my hearing, but I got no regrets except for the 80s. How many times have you been in an Uber where the Uber driver decides telling you about how this isn't even his real job. It's just kind of his second thing to make money. Because what he really does,
Starting point is 00:46:16 and he starts telling you about some new business idea that he's in on. I got worms. That's where we're going to call it. Let's get back into where we were. So they grabbed Fulton. He becomes a slap shot king, and then the ducks only make the playoffs because of his mad slap shot, and because five kids on the other team don't have the stones
Starting point is 00:46:38 to just get in front of the puck that is coming directly. Even one of those kids willing to take that bullet, duck season is over. There's no Hollywood ending for the team, but they all have the misguided decision to hop out of the way, including the goalie. It's like you have the pet. Did you see the firing squad hurling all their pucks at Goldberg?
Starting point is 00:47:08 Step in front of that one, yeah. You got one job. What are you doing? I know he's like a fierce slap shot, but like, come on. It's not a big point too, but he gives him skates. And he's like size nine, he's like nine and a half. wear big socks like don't be a bitch just fucking take these with skates he's like I made these for you just fucking take him there you are sharp and laced ready to call what's this
Starting point is 00:47:31 your new skates and a half was your size actually I'm a nine wear thick socks Gordon even though I've taken close enough interest in your life to keep the framed newspaper clipping of your biggest failure I didn't bother to remember what shoe size are even though I make skates for you. But it's okay because I'm fucking Hans. Fucking Hans. Fucking Coach Riley's collar. Dude, we need to get...
Starting point is 00:48:03 All right, all right, all right. Okay, at the end of this, we're going to give our six-man award because I actually haven't even thought about it, but I have a feeling. Yeah, yeah, we'll do a little awards real quick. But first, let's go ahead and get to the big game. Every great sports movie needs a good championship game. This one is built up perfectly. highlighted by that awesome
Starting point is 00:48:23 championship graphic where it's like Gordon and Riley's face like in the newspaper The split like half the shadow split fade Man that literally looked like a main event boxing fight Can you do that of one of us for like the covered? Yes we should We should get actually like
Starting point is 00:48:39 Look at the lighting just so Yeah yeah I want like a split screen of me in your face And Gordon and Riley's By the way question about Riley So you're telling me this guy's just been this king Peewee hockey coach for like 20 plus years, just winning championships left and right. Never leveled up from there.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Never decided to take on like maybe a high school or a coaching gig. Maybe even shoot your shot at the big leagues. Fuck it. Even Gordon's taking a shot of the big leagues. And he's been away for 20 years of the game. But Raleigh's just like, no, man. I thoroughly enjoyed that. He's got to go at least high school level like Bud Kilmer.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. Yeah. Go through your Bud Kilner era, you know? I'm sure the town would glorify you. It's just like that Varsity Blues Town did for Bud. I'll build a statue for you. You could talk about your two national titles. Count them out right there.
Starting point is 00:49:34 In my time, I have brought this town. 20 district titles. And two, I'm sure you know the speech better than I do. Let me hear. You actually got it. Did I? Yeah, that's pretty good. I haven't seen it a long time.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And count them two national titles. That's right. Woo. And it's like, You're captain, Lance Harbor. Mr. Lance Harbor. Okay, so we're in the championship game now, right? I swear they changed the Coach Riley quote
Starting point is 00:50:01 that we heard all throughout the movie at the end. They like flipped it and was like, you're not only letting me down, you're letting the team down. I feel like going into the last game, they said you're not only letting the team down, you're letting me down. Now you miss this shot. You're not just letting me down,
Starting point is 00:50:17 you're letting your whole team down too. All right, so you're going to you, Gordon. Now you missed this shot You're not just letting your team down You're letting me down too They added a little more A little more sauce to it Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:29 Something all along lines of I believe in you I'm like whoa whoa whoa Yeah Since when do you believe in him Coach Riley never had any belief in Gordon Only when he thought it could maybe help him win And then the second
Starting point is 00:50:40 That dagger pass He was like I'm off that train Fuck you Gordon He ruined My 21st District titles actually a lot of DNA of Coach Kildner in Coach Riley. Yep. So as soon as the game starts, I'm just like, okay, there's no way the ducks are beating the Hawks, though.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Like they're flying around the ice. They're a uniform, cohesive unit of just far superior athletes, quicker, stronger, taller, faster. They go up 3-0, like immediately. And you know the ducks are going to win. So you're like, I'm already just not, like, let's be real. I know where this is going. And the three to nothing scores the most realistic part of the game.
Starting point is 00:51:29 It's like, yeah, that would happen. They are just literally skating circles around him. So the ducks got to get crafty. They got to start pulling out some of their trickbooks. Which reminds you of what Disney movie that came out around that same time? The annexation of Puerto Rico. Little fucking Giants. Boom.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Had to get the fucking fumble rusky. Fumbarouski play Fumbar Ruski. So when it comes to Mighty Ducks Trick plays, which one did you favor? The Duncan does the
Starting point is 00:52:01 triple axle or the good old flying V where are you standing? I mean I think I'm going to be with everyone and just say the iconic flying V we had never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That had to have been invented. We'll never see it again. I feel like it had to have been invented. It's no way that like the writers of that movie pulled it out there there's definitely some i'd say hockey historians that could pull out where the flying v was invented but my thinking of it was like okay if this is that effective just fucking do that every time right why are you guys fucking around with all this passing around in the in the back
Starting point is 00:52:36 court over here you know just flying me the shit of it similar to my stance on hey if fulton can just like slice through the whole team with like his mean slap shot why you guys just set them up it seems like every time they decided to do that strategy, I'd be like, get it to Fulton. He just happens to have the whole ice clear right in front of him so that he can just have the time to slow motion and rip it literally through the back of the net. So, but that's how they end up tying it up. That's Gordon though. Gordon was like, you know, make sure he gets plenty of room.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah. And the Oreo line, by the way, I don't know if you all remember that. But the Oreo line is Jesse and his brother and Guy, I believe, are. Adam Banks. And I was like, this is aggressive for a kid's movie. What was the line? The Oreo line. I don't remember it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 What do they say? They say, one, it's when they're playing the Hawks and the Hawks in the first game are like, what is this? The Oreo line, because it's two black kids and one white kid in the middle. And then Jesse gets upset. No, right. You got to get upset of that. And then in the big game, the championship, Jesse's scorer.
Starting point is 00:53:47 he's like, yeah, the Oreo line. I'm like, wait a second. We'll flip it. Okay, we'll celebrate the Oreo line now. They actually say it one more time. They say it three times total. Each time I was like, this is really happening right now? What would Hans think?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I want every discussion to end with what would Hans think. Because clearly his opinion does, is the most valued in this town. more so than the brother's dad who like storms in and like he doesn't seem to be that strongly concerned about you know no what did he say when he came in he pulled him out i mean he's teaching him how to cheat and he's like this is what i gave him my overtime for to see my kids taking falls and i'm like you know what i felt that though i was like fuck you gordon this guy's a hard-working blue collar man needs his overtime and he goes to the rink yeah and all of a sudden his kids are just diving all over the place The Oreo line is all over on the floor. My thinking of that was, I didn't ask you to fucking give up your overtime. What was the you decision?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Did you need to do that? Get your money, bro. Gordon's straight of like, yeah, man, that's on you. Look, I'm all about two things. Get money and get the W. Okay? Your overtime pays way more important than like fucking watching some hockey games. Go get your fucking Benjuries, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I can pull you away from that. And yes, we fucking cheated in a pee-wee hockey game because here's the thing, I got an addiction to the dub. I need my wins, okay? And these kids are the only way I'm getting that right now because I'm not allowed to ace it in the courtroom. And I have a severe complex that I've been overcoming from my failure as a seven-year-old because this entire fucking town in Minnesota will let me forget that shit. Fuck you guys. Fucking Riley. Fucking with your collar pop.
Starting point is 00:55:44 racist ass squad give me banks i'm taking banks banks banks is on my team right now i found a legal loophole okay i'm taking that kid and guess what banks ended up getting him one goal and then he got taken out he did he did fuck off and help him after all that trouble that they did to get banks on the squad he literally scored one goal then he got taken out taken out and then had the dramatic takeout like did they stretch her amount totally stretched him out and then his dad runs under the ice where a hawk's jacket and by the way a little hawks pin yeah i'm like damn bro my son would rather not play hawks for life bro i'm like dad chill yo i want to i want to play the minneapolis peewee hockey program does not fuck around when you bleed hawks you bleed hawks for life you get hawks merch ducks
Starting point is 00:56:34 merch they had merch yeah people had merch okay that brings us to the climax of the movie dude, you guys are supposed to be more disciplined than this. They fouled Charlie with literally, like, a fraction of a second on the clock. I'm surprised that we didn't see a Kilner style chewout from Coach Riley over there, because, like, that really just fucked your team up. Now, the Ducks are in position to have a game-winning penalty shot to win the whole shebang. And I thought it was charming that Gordon pretended like he, He cared about the team's opinion.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Who should take the final shot? He goes over to the bench. And he's like, all right, we got the opportunity to win it right here. Who's taking it? And they're all like, oh, they all point to like Fulton or somebody. They point to somebody. Maybe Ghee. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, and he's just like, well, no, what about Charlie? And they're all like, fucking Charlie? Charlie, what they call? Charlie Spazway. Spazway? Very creative name. Dude. I don't know if you caught this coach, but he kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And he's like, yeah, he's a goofball. He's fucking clumsy. He doesn't take a dive when the coach tells him to, you know? True player is here to win, man. There was some influence why he picked Charlie, though. I think we all know. He's like, guys, here's the thing. Last three weeks, I've been seven deep in Charlie's mom.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Okay, so I'm going to keep focusing on what's really important and make sure I'm in good with that. And if we could pull the W out, that's good too. So maybe Gordon has grown, because winning's not the only thing that matters to him anymore. Meatloaf and quality time with Charlie's mom. Hell yeah. Those dinner invites are, you know, scoring points. They're not inviting themselves, you know, except they are because they're coming into the form of Charlie. So all of Charlie's invites all of Charlie's dinner invites all year ended up paying off because then he gets to be the hero of the movie.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And I was thinking as he was going to take the game winning shot, I was thinking, anybody watching this that doesn't think Charlie's about to score right now? I honestly, I admire your innocence because there was no chance. First of all, if it was either he scores and the Ducks win or we go to overtime. And you think after this traumatic moment, the whole buildup to the penalty shot, they're going to be like, ah, all right, five more in the clock. Let's start it all up again. We're having to come down from that climactic moment, but that's hockey, baby.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Let's go. Three on three. Let's hook it. So, yeah, obviously Charlie wins. Triple Deek. Does the Triple Deak, just like Gordon, but this time doesn't hit the post because he's not a colossal failure. Like Gordon has proven a. Actually, he kisses the post, but it goes in.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Nice. So he still almost fucking blew it. But he didn't. Spasworth actually pulled it off this time. Wait, wait, it wasn't Spasworth, was it? What do they call him? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Spazway? Spazway. Yeah, Conway. Okay. So then the team celebrates and immediately we get this out of nowhere like make out amongst 10 year olds with I assume it was Duncan, the girl. And I'm just like what was I was just like, where did that come from right now? Was there a backstory that was like cut from the movie? Because there was no buildup to that. Did I miss something or was there like flirting amongst the teens? I didn't need to see some 10 year old. like make out at the end of this movie to be like victory i don't i i didn't see any reason that that needed to be you literally shoehorned that in there as like a payoff to like some story that's been built up throughout it and uh i didn't i miss that i don't know i actually did not see that so you might have to to play that as the team celebrates there's immediately i didn't even catch who it was but one of the when they're all storming they're all storming and then one of the duck boys like grabs the duck girl, which I think her name was Duncan, right? The brunette?
Starting point is 01:00:44 I didn't know there were two different girls on the team until 20 minutes ago. Wait a second. So I thought it was Duncan. Yeah, and he grabs her and they like start like making out. And I'm like, whoa, these kids are literally the children, okay? Well, different time. Quack quack quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. And then we usually do the MVP in the old three things day.
Starting point is 01:01:05 We'd say who was the MVP of the movie. I think the obvious choice is Gordon, obviously. Emilio Estevez, but I'm going to curveball you for who I think the MVP of the movie. It's fucking Mike Medano because he sets our boy up with a tryout, even though he has admittedly not played hockey for like 20 years. But Mike Madano, his word means something in the landscape of the hockey business. And if he says this guy deserves a tryout, damn it, you're getting a minor league tryout with whatever club. They don't even say. But, and maybe that leads to,
Starting point is 01:01:40 fucking NHL Pro Emilio Estevez, you know? That's a good point. Running amok. Have you seen D2? I haven't seen even this movie since I was a kid. I think I remember seeing D2 also when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure you have, for sure you have.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Well, I remember I've seen the like final scenes a lot of D2 because my old friend here from Manhattan Beach, Scott White, was the star of their team, Gunner Stahl. Oh, wait, I think you told me that. Yeah. Thanks, Gunner. Yeah. And he's like, come on, let's go shake their hands.
Starting point is 01:02:15 You lost it for yourself. Yes, you lost it for yourself. Yeah, we used to always say that to him. It was commonly quoted. So he was the lead singer of the house band at the bar. I worked at however here in Manhattan Beach for many years. Was the name of that band Crucial Tom? It was actually the Scott White Band.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So I spent a lot of time around him. And he actually had band. shirt's made up that had the stall on the back. So he played into it. That's pretty dope. Yeah. So I saw those parts of it, but I haven't actually, I don't recall watching the whole movie in a long time. So yeah, go ahead. But you'll say, I was just saying because you thought Mike Madonna was an MVP and he definitely was. He got him that second, second shot. Dude, Mike Madonna was around like my entire life. It's like him and Yama Yager have like both been like active NHL players for like pretty much the entirety of my existence.
Starting point is 01:03:09 As long as I've ever heard of or known anything about what's going on in the NHH. Is Yarramir still playing? I feel like what I heard recently is like he is like retired but not like officially. Like he's, yeah, of course. The Yomir Yager Mollet will always be running strong. Yeah. I think you know who my MVP is.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Who's that? It's got to be fucking Hans. Hans is the one that brought Gordon down from his cloud. I know you're this hot shot lawyer that can drink and drive and get away with it, but you fucked up when you were four. I framed it for you. And now you need to get your shit together, if not for you, for these kids. Just to, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And also, the Panthers got the measles. So I know everything. I'm the MVP. I put this shit together. And here's some skates that aren't your size. Okay. Pack some extra layers of socks, bitch. And nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:04:09 more about hockey in this town than Hans and I kind of feel like he's the one making the whole operation just smashed so cares a lot more than Gordon ever he did Gordon bailed the second he tasted failure Hans who stuck with it for 20 years 20 years that we know of he's probably still hanging around those rinks stashing away newspaper clippings on the wall of other child's failures only to let them humble them a little bit when they come back 20 years like Just let them know where they came from. Hans's Wall of Shame. Hans' Wall of Shame.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Everything else in that wall was, like, accolades and, like, proud, like, players that came through there. And then that was the one, like, rogue, this team failed, and it was mostly this kid's fault. Just to really let Gordon know any time he ever actually came back. Hey, don't get too big for your bitches, kid. I know where you came from. Stay humble. Okay, so then two more questions. Sixth Man Off the Bench.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I got to say Hans is mine. I'm going to say the Sixth Man award goes to Hans for me for all the things we just said. Well, who's yours? Man, I'm going to go Fulton. I think he was a game changer that they needed, not Adam Banks, even though Adam Banks is a very talented player, but. They taught him how to shoot pucks at moving cars. Bolton is the one player that other teams feared.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah, he was the game changer. They acted like Adam Banks was supposed to be. enforcer he was the enforcer yeah through the kid over the side after he took a cheap shot and then got thrown out yeah and the kid that threw the cheap shot did not get thrown out i know that's hockey bro got two minutes that's hockey i also like that okay so he doesn't know how to skate so first gordon teaches him how to shoot slap he wants to see him practice slap shots by aiming directly at his driver's car and then they want to teach him how to skate by speeding around a busy mall in like a saturday Just fucking rollerblading in a crowded mall
Starting point is 01:06:13 And pushing old ladies in a fountain Well, she's just trying to enjoy her shopping day That lady got dused into that fountain And nobody's, it was just like played for laughs Someone think about Harriet's day over here She's getting presents all wet She has to get home from the mall Which is supposed to be her nice Saturday out
Starting point is 01:06:31 Sopping wet in her best weekend get up I put that on full Actually I put that on Gordon Gordon's fault Also a little bit of Fulton's fault We're not knowing how to fucking skate Very true Okay
Starting point is 01:06:44 Last question This is a little something I stole From the Bill Simmons Rewatch Bulls pod Which is very influential To this right here pod What paraphernalia Would you like
Starting point is 01:06:54 If you take anything from this movie What would you bring home? I'm gonna have to go with Coach Riley's jacket Oh I got Gordon's jacket I got Emilio I could have sworn
Starting point is 01:07:07 You would have said Coach Riley's jacket The jacket pops, come on, man. Yeah, but, okay, if it's something that I'm going to wear, I'm more likely to wear the all-black. And I am collar-popping every time I do something that just kicks a little bit of ass that day. You know, parallel park into a spot in one go.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Oh, bitch. Just look into your rear-view mirror and do it to yourself? Yeah. That's a rear-view mirror pop for sure. A little wink? Yeah. You know? Wake up one minute before my alarm goes off.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Uh, there's one pop right there. That's how you know your day's starting off on the Riley foot. Okay? That earns you a pop right there. But you're talking about something to wear for nostalgia. You're going to Bombay jacket. Bombay jacket all the way. That's what I'm putting in the frame.
Starting point is 01:07:54 You know, that's framable. I'd have it right here. I would get it to replace the Outcast right here. With the coach Bombay and perfect cursive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rurudo. Reruto. Right there.
Starting point is 01:08:04 That thing's legendary. It's so, like, 90s with the Letterman jacket style. You think it's like a suede? It's like a leather, I think. The first thing I think of what I think of this movie. I think of the Gordon Bombay jacket. Four, I even think of the shitty Ducks uniform. If there's two words that I think summarize this entire movie,
Starting point is 01:08:23 it's Bombay Jacket. And then obviously Hans. Three words. But for now, that actually takes us to the end of our long and winding road down Duck Street. So for that, we only have one word for you. Quack! Quack, quack, quack, quack, quark. Gordon, stop quacking.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Clack, quack, quack, quack, mizzy dot, pardon.

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