Dissect DJs - Top Gun (1986)

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

It's time to get dangerous and fly back to 1986 for a thorough dissection of one of the most iconic films of its era, as we break down the Tom Cruise classic - Top Gun.There are 3 Things we gotta ...talk about with this movie, and hit all the crucial notes, plot points and reactions that fly by along the way. Is Maverick actually a good pilot? Are these guys actually cool? And who is the true MVP of the movie?Our target is set on Top Gun - NEXT!Listeners of this podcast might also enjoy: 80s movies, Top Gun Maverick, Ice Man, Val Kilmer, podcast, reaction, movie reviews, movie reactions, classic films, Meg Ryan, Dissect DJs, Ryan Castle, DJ JAG, Jason Malabuyoc, throwback movies, podcast comedy, 3 Things About, Quentin Tarantino, Goose, Slider, Sundown, The Rewatchables, film review.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:07 Has there ever been a more epic opening track to a movie than this that immediately lets you know the vibe, the feel, and the era of which this film commence? Not to mention connecting your mind and memory to one movie title. And think about this is not even the most iconic song from that movie. Might not even be top three. Might not even be top four. I'll let you go ahead and guess what other songs I might be thinking about there. But go ahead and throw your guesses in the comments and subscribe while you're at it. Because it is the Diceet DJs.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I'm Ryan Castle. If this is your first time joining the show, welcome. You're checking back in. Welcome back. And today we have a classic re-upload episode for you from my original show, The Three Things About Podcasts, of which we recorded several years ago. Top Gun. But you knew that because you heard the song.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And also, it's in the title of the episode. It usually gives you a good hint of where we're about to go with it. Which means now all of y'all who have never heard are thorough dissecting. section of the 1986 classic in three things format. Can now hop in the jet and gun it together because we are the DJs. I like to spin it, mix it, throw it back, and dissect it. Sometimes you like to break down classic music, sometimes classic movies. And there is no movie that is more iconic from the era of the 80s than this,
Starting point is 00:01:26 which is a bold statement because that is a very iconic decade. But I'd say it has a case. Now before we get into the full episode, I just want to throw a couple quick programming notes out there. First, we got two brand new video podcast episodes uploaded to the YouTube feed, our Curtis Blow basketball episode, as well as our full candy jams mix episode in which we ran through all the classic songs in history that focus on the subject of candy. And that episode in specific was a very heavy left for me to finish editing because we actually didn't know that Justin's camera was off for the majority episode until after we finished recording. So I had to stitch together stills of Justin's reactions to match his wild commentary throughout the whole episode. And I actually think it ended up coming together pretty hilarious. You should go check it out.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It's like watching an episode of Tom Goes to See the Mayor or Space Ghosts, coast to coast. Shout out to my adult swim heads. But yeah, I ended up liking it. I think it came together nice. Go check it out. The video links are in the description of each episode, as all episodes are since we began the video aspect of the podcast. Or you can just find them on my YouTube page at Rycastle. Give them a watch, give them a listen.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Give them a like, give them a subscribe. You know, the whole deal. If you like the music that we're playing, sometimes you want to hear it in a music video form, We got that for you. Now the other note I want to throw out real quick is give a quick shout out to our jam wagon brethren Jason Malibuyak, who was actually featured on this Top Gun episode right here, who just became a brand new Papa. He and his wife Tammy just gave birth to a brand new baby girl just last week.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So we just want to throw out some DJ-love and cheers out to the Malibuyak fan. And that is also why Jayway has not been featured in any of our recent episodes. He's been pretty locked in on game planning this whole becoming a dad situation, which I think takes. slight precedence over this silly pot over here. But we can actually get them on right now by way of classic throwback episode re-upload and hear all his takes on the 1986 classic Top Gun. Enough for the preamble.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Throwback Castle! Run back that epic track! I'm Ryan Castle and it's showtime. And we're back. Call us The Undertaker because we have sat up from the dead and the three things we've got to talk about podcast lives. Ryan Castle and I've been joined by my all-star cast, the old jam wagon crew.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We got Jason Malibuyak. What is up? And of course, my Dysect DJ's co-host, DJ Jagg, aka Justino Garcia. DJ diga-digg-digg-d-digg-d-d-What-up, y'all, jagging the building. And guess what? We got some movies we got to talk about. It is Three Things About this film's edition of the Three Things Podcast, and we're going to go ahead and tackle some classics.
Starting point is 00:04:18 1986 iconic film Top Gun, which grossed over $357 million and only cost $15 million to make. So a win right there. Another win in that 36 years later, we've got a sequel, a real deep sequel that just came out. And that has got everybody buzzing all over again about the whole Top Gun series. So we figured let's dig into this thing. And what's crazy is Tom Cruise actually reversed an age. And he's younger now. I haven't actually seen it.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I figured that would be helpful to the podcast if there was somebody that didn't. That's not why I didn't see it. I just never, I want to. It's got 100% review of everybody around me. Everybody keeps telling me it's great. What about you guys? Do you check that out? I don't want to do any spoilers, but it's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I have not seen it yet, but I will. So do you think they use like some kind of prosthetics or computer digitalization to make them look younger? Is that just Tom Cruise? He's a vampire. I'm convinced. I will say, if you guys have ever done a movie theater in D-Box, you know what D-box is? I do not.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I do not. At a cinema, they basically have the seats that move like you would at Universal Studios and stuff like that. You could get those for movies. So it's called D-Box. And so for Maverick, I was in like a seat that was like, felt like you were in the plane the entire movie and stuff. It was epic.
Starting point is 00:05:31 So you were Maverick. It takes off and it slows down and when it explodes, it seats shakes. He was. He was Merlin? So was there like popcorn everywhere on the floor and shit? Oh, yeah. But it's awesome. If you're going to do it, the best way,
Starting point is 00:05:45 to do this movie if you're going to do it is D-Box where your seat is the plane it's fantastic these stickiest floors in all the land but totally worth it absolutely worth it yeah this is the first i've ever heard of that but that is absolutely the way to watch it i've done that movie and i've done a mary poppins and mary poppins are you in that you're just floating around in the seat it was really awkward feel like that one hit it as well it was different it was fun i definitely do D-box shout out to send a mark for that get your ass in there but um i got a google location D-box now i don't know what that is box we're looking for a sponsor So, yeah, obviously this movie is starring Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Started at a legendary bromance slash rivalry that has been debated over the years between Mav and Iceman, which one you are, between the two of them. But that is not what we're going to talk about because it's honestly, it's too obvious. But we do have three things to talk about. So guys, we got something to talk about. You ready for this? Let's get it. Let's get right into thing number one. Number one.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Is Maverick. actually a good pilot Jason I think it's all subjective man what kind of pilot do you do you want to be because that's what you're going to relate to do you want to be the
Starting point is 00:06:56 the rebel that can do loop de loops whenever he wants to or do you want to be by the book earn your stripes get your little swag pins and your little wings put those on
Starting point is 00:07:08 be like your in these yeah be the captain or I don't even know army ranks pardon me I think he's lieutenant what's higher than lieutenant sergeant General? General?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Commander. Corporal? President? Yeah, probably. So it's up to you. I mean, he can do it all, but he's also, he's kind of a stuck up little fucker. What was the question? Repeat the question?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Is Maverick actually a good pilot? And I'm going to go ahead and say, yes, the man knows how to fly in F-16 at, you know, and now is he a bit reckless with it? Possibly. But is he a good pilot? He knows how to fly at F-16 above, go above the person, look down and take a picture, He knows how to go all over the board. He knows how to use his plane in the craziest things.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Now will he get his co-pilot killed? Possibly. That's not the point. That's not what you're asking here. Is he a good pilot? Yes, he knows how to fly a plane quite well. So I'm going to go with a yes. Yes, he's a fantastic.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Can I just ask one question that you just brought up there? What was Mav doing with just a polar-eyed camera with him in this fighter pilot? Is that just chilling the whole time? Like, he's literally doing like spinnies in there. Like, that thing's not bouncing around. It's not going to hit him in the head every now and then. Like, where was that thing? Did he literally bring out a Polaride camera just to pull that stunt?
Starting point is 00:08:20 You don't have a just-in-case Polaroid camera laying around your car, bro? I mean, come on. I haven't. No, not since, like, 1997. Maverick, where's my shoot? I don't know, but we got a Polaroid camera, though, so... I got a sick picture to the enemy. He was like, what?
Starting point is 00:08:34 What's going on? We were giving him the bird. It looks like this, you know? Here's my take. A little spicy. But I think... He is a good flyer. He's an excellent at flying these fighter jets.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But kind of a terrible pilot. His whole thing of being like, yeah, that's right. I am dangerous. Not really what I want to hear from a pilot. Not really a position where I want to get danger from, you know? Like, can you imagine if you're on an airplane at some point, your pilot gets on the intercom and he's just like, This is your captain speaking?
Starting point is 00:09:09 We're flying over the gorge. I've south of Mexico. We have about 345 million feet up there. We shall arrive in about destination two hours unless we don't because I'm fucking dangerous, y'all. It immediately goes into a boom, tailspin. Yeah, like there are certain regulations and rules that are very crucial for a pilot to follow. I actually watched this YouTube video on this lawyer who watches court scenes from movies, and he kind of takes it on it.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's called Legal Eagle. It's a great channel. I suggest you check it out of here into legal stuff. He goes through these movie scenes and he critiques them from a real lawyer's point of view. Pretty much everything in this movie, he was like, that would get you dispatched and probably put in jail. Like going against your commander's authority while you're in the sky is a hell no. Like that is super against the law.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Okay? And he does it like, what, 12 times in this movie? He does out the gate at least three. Right away. He decides to not get the- dozen over and over again. The no gas out the beginning. It's like his thing.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He decides to do a couple flybys right by just because he wants to be an asshole. Oh, right off the bed. This guy has boiling hot coffee. Let's drive by him and make him spill out of the top. He literally says I'm a buzz the tower for no reason other than just because he woke up with the case of the fuck around. No, no man, this is not a good idea. Sorry, goose, but it's time to buzz the tower. He's causing havoc in the air where.
Starting point is 00:10:43 you do not want anything to go wrong. And there's a reason that these things are put in place. But here's the thing about Maverick. In this movie, he continues to break code. He continues to go against his, you know, captain's orders. And it just always works out for him. Like, the very beginning, he's like, I'm going to go head on with him. And the first thing I thought what I heard that, I was like, is that a good idea? Is that necessary? Like, I don't feel like when you're in the sky, you're like, you know what? We're going to play a game of chicken. Well, I'm feeling it. Let's go. Who's blinking first?
Starting point is 00:11:15 You know, like, that's not something we should just fuck around with up there. So he disobeys orders. Hooked up with the instructor. No, that happens later. I'm just saying, he just goes after it, man. No, but it breaks all kinds of rules. So what you're telling me, he's a good pilot. No, the first flight that we're talking about, he's up there.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He ditches Cougar who gets, you know, enemies focused on him. Cougar freezes like an ice pop, straight up like James Harden in the 2018, West Finals, like completely forgets who he is, what's his name, doesn't know how to function, and he just quits his entire career because he just lost it up there. He lost the edge, as he says.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So all of Mav's disruptive activity and irresponsibility causes this legend in the Navy is discharge, or he quits because of ultimately Maverick's irresponsibility. And the captain is like, the next
Starting point is 00:12:11 scene, he's like, damn it i don't like how you work but damn it you're the best you're gonna top gun he just like promotes him and that happens over and over in the movie he ends up having the face off with charlotte when they she first realized that she's like a commanding officer and he's just giving her shit because he's like oh i'm gonna just stand on my balls right now and like you know represent because like i'm swaggy and i know it and then she literally just looked at He looks at him and just like, you're the one. So you're the one.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You're spam. Like, literally in every scene, he plays by his own rules, which is completely dangerous at that point. And that's another thing. Why is it okay to be dangerous? Like, he's proud of it. He's like... Because he wears aviators. I think you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:13:03 They all worry. Not only that, he leaves the volleyball game before the fucking volleyball game. It's even over. Yeah, fuck you guys. He had plans with... I don't care. You don't leave a fucking volleyball guy. I would be like, well, fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Fuck this. You never put any, don't get on the fucking court again. You fucking come out here, you've got finished the game. I'm down two points. I'm not going on yet. Fuck you. Mav.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Can I interject really quick on this? Would you guys rather be called your pilot name all the time or your actual name? Because they're at the bar just like, what's up, Mav? I'm like, huh? Oh, yeah, no, I want my, I want my nickname at all times. Okay, right? I think you're with those guys, yeah. This is like a Sky Fraternity.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Can you think about it? It basically is, yes. by our names and fraternity. Everyone had their nickname. Of course, yeah. Okay. And it never was the nickname that was during the, you know, Big Bro Little Bro.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It was always like, those were always the worst names that nobody ever actually used. Yeah, of course. Nobody ever used those ones. On that note, though, I love that when he first meets Charlotte, right? He does that whole performance that is, you know, we'll get into that, I'm sure, later. But he finally sits down to meet her.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And he's like, yeah, what's up? Maverick. And she's like, Maverick, would your mom hate you? And he's like, ah, no, that's my call sign. And she's like, you're a pilot? You're... I'm Charlotte Blackwood.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm Maverick. Maverick? Is your mother not like you or something? No, it's my call sign. I'm a pilot. That's right, a naval aviator. It's like he's literally wearing the pilot gear. Everybody else around is also wearing the pilot gear.
Starting point is 00:14:41 and I just love the idea that he intros himself as Maverick, and then he, like, is surprised that there's follow-up questions. Oh, yeah, sorry, that's just, that's my call sign. Yeah, and they're like home whites, you know, they're not even a way jersey. They're like the home white jersey. It's like so obvious, right? Are those wings on your shoulder?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Mm-hmm. You're a pilot? Oh, you notice that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Triss my arm. Yeah, I'm a pilot. Don't make, let's not make a big deal of it.
Starting point is 00:15:11 guys, okay? Let's keep it on the deal. All right. Why is Mavs so proud of being dangerous? Like, that's really, that's the crux of my point. There are certain jobs for maybe being dangerous. You're like, yeah, that's cool. He's a little bit of a rebel. Maybe he's an
Starting point is 00:15:26 undercover cop. Does things his own way. It doesn't matter. He gets the job done. Maybe he's a line cook, you know? And he's like, hey, the flames are a little big, but you know what? That crispy shrimp is going to be crisper than ever. I want to take a bite. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Is that the most delicious shrimp you've ever had? That's what I'm talking about. Or a teppon chef, you know, maybe one of those guys. He's like, da-da-da-da. Somebody like that. A fucking onion volcano. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:15:52 A little dangerous, but you know what? He gets the job done. Pilots, not in the top 100 of careers that I want somebody to just be proudly dangerous in. You're flying an aircraft carrier. You know what I mean? And there was another guy in the back seat the whole time. The whole time I was like watching it. I was actually thinking this too when Cougar was losing his shit.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I was like, imagine being the guy in the back seat of that one and just being like, hey, bro, you, uh, you good? They said you were good at this. So your whole freezing up and sweating and pulling off your face mask and just looking around and just lost it. Kind of, started to piss myself a little bit. Just want to make sure you got it together. You know, like, and he's, and he literally is coming down to land and he literally is just like off in the haze. And they're like, pull up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d. He comes in with the hardest landing you've ever seen. Yeah, the passenger must have been shit. It would be hard to be in a... What, like, what... Are you proud of that? I don't fly the plane, but I ride the fuck out of it. Yeah, but I can...
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, I don't know how you... I take good notes. Like, what do you do back there the whole time? Play Tetris? Is that the starting spot before you become the pilot? Or is that just the position that you're, you know, you become like a dental assistant. You never actually become a dentist.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You're just the dental assistant is what you are. You're taking appointments and shit. Yeah, yeah. You fill in the calendar. shitty position. And then you had a dentist who's like, that's right. I am dangerous. And it's all, well, like the patients just out on some novocaine. And then you're like, ha ha ha. It's no job, baby. You're like, yeah, there's just some jobs that I don't think it's good to be proud of being dangerous. And being a Navy jet flare, that's one of them. So I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And again, swinging back to my point, there are some jobs that you should have more swag with. You should have a little more game. The position, gives you just in and of itself the ability to have game. You almost don't need to say anything. You have a fantastic white. Just walking on the wings. Walk in it. So let's bring that up.
Starting point is 00:17:51 All right. Let's do it. That right there will bring us to thing number two. Number two. Are we sure these guys are cool? I will make a program note. I do realize that one of our most recent, episodes.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Two years ago. Yeah, it's been a while. That's pretty recent. It is. It is. Because the Three Things podcast has been on a bit of a hiatus, but we're back and we're ready to run the trail. But in our Greece episode, I asked a similar question about the T-birds and the pink
Starting point is 00:18:25 lady, so I want to make a note that I'm not going to do this every single time, but I think it's warranted here. Are the top gun fighter jet fighters, captains, pilots, what do we call them? What are they referred to as? The pilot. X-wing pilots? I don't know. Pilots. Are they cool guys? Justin, tell me.
Starting point is 00:18:45 On paper, everything gives them the sign of, yes, I'm a pilot. I fly F-16s. The aviators. Motorcycle. I play fantastic volleyball. I'm in shape. I have a cool name. All these different things give you, like, you know, plus they probably have a good pension. You know, they got, you know, good vet. They better.
Starting point is 00:19:07 From this point on, they're going to have, you know, They're dangerous. What is it called? You get like vet benefits from this point on. You get like you can get up. Your first house is going to get a discount because you were in the military and all those extra things that come. Your spouse is going to be taken care of. Yeah, all that.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You're set for life. So you have all this potential. But then again, you know, what tends to happen is you get too lost in your job, your career. You lose the ability to be social and how to, you know, socially interact to actually be cool. And there's many different circumstances, one in particular in this movie, that it's a lot. like, come on, man. We could have a little more game than that, huh, guys? As a group?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. You guys know what I'm talking about right there. So wait, I'm saying... I think the whole world, even my dog knows what you're talking about. Yeah. All right, well, that makes me feel kind of stupid because I was about to follow up with, are you telling me they are cool? I just feel like you're saying that the position that they hold and the uniforms they
Starting point is 00:20:01 wear and everything, that makes them cool. What I'm saying is they had, yes, that gives them the ability to not have to do much to be cool. They're already cool. Like you're right there. You got to do is push it over and say hi. You can just keep it simple. But instead, these guys go over the top and be like,
Starting point is 00:20:17 you know what I got to do with this vision? I got to sing a ridiculous song. At this point, was already 30 years old. And now it's so, because it's 60 years old. And they're like, hey, guys, you ready for what we do here?
Starting point is 00:20:26 You guys ready? Everybody ready? Here we go. And he grabs some random mic, which, by the way, the mic has a chord to it. Why is there a live mic just ready to be picked up? With a cord.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So he had to get this chord through the entire audience, know about putting chords through parties. I was going to say, I was, I couldn't wait to bring this up to you because I was like, as a DJ, you should know, when is there ever just a live mic ready for just any scowager to just pick up and be like, oh, she's lost that loving feeling, I think. DJ, let me grab this. Hey, is that cool? And take it across the bar into the middle of the stand with a wire to it. Like, yeah, it's crazy. I saw that. I was like, that's crazy. There's no chance. It's just on. What if it wasn't even a DJ? Is a live band like mid-song? Like, no, no,
Starting point is 00:21:08 No, no, no, she's lost that loving feeling. Like, this... We do this. Just, just winks at this singer. This takes precedence, okay? Slips him a $2 bill. Yeah, and then as a group decided to sing this song, because apparently it's worked before.
Starting point is 00:21:20 This isn't the first time these gentlemen have done this. This is one like, oh, we doing... I'm singing this guys? This is a go-to move. That is a routine. They all came into it, and then, you know, and then he finally got to sit with her afterwards and all the guys, they keep singing and move along.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And, yeah. How lame is it, though, when he, like, sits down, and they all cheer him. and he literally like holds his arms up and they're like yay she let me sit next to her hey it worked everybody hey could you imagine they're trying to do that present time like if we had like a mob of like i don't know 10 15 guys oh my god and we'd go to you know a beautiful woman at the bar i just think it had to be a different song i think we could do it though oh it's been done no no we're doing this to death i don't think i don't think i guarantee you that's been
Starting point is 00:22:02 done because if i came in if i came with the very first time that i saw you're brown eyes and you'll listen hello yeah yeah see that that would get and I said now see that song
Starting point is 00:22:14 and everybody like there you were the one that's the thing is like the concept of it the idea the idea of kind of creating a whole
Starting point is 00:22:27 team effort on the mic to like woo a girl not that bad of idea but these guys just executed so douchey
Starting point is 00:22:36 mostly because of just how it begins when he's like, excuse me, miss, and he does that amazingly douchy just duck out of the way and the other guy jumps in there and he's just like, oh, don't worry, I'll take care of this. Excuse me, miss.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't worry, I'll take care of this. You never close your eyes anymore when I kiss your lips. And then they start playing. You never close your eyes. Not even like that, though. you can actually sing. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:08 they were bad. And they were all tempo. And Tom Cruise can't sing. Butchering it. The tempo is way too fast. Yeah, I was like, you guys slow it down. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:18 you guys are killing me. You guys are killing me. All right, so let's peel it back again. But don't let this distract you. I want to say this too, because you're thinking the name Iceman, you got to be cool, right?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Right. Why the fuck is he always chewing gum? Is that part of his image? Are you cool? Do I look cool, chewing like this? Spence of you are. At one point of my life, I felt I did.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Pat Riley pulled it off. Okay, Pat Riley. Mr. Perfect. There's a few guys from the WWF. There's a few guys who like it was kind of part of their look and, yeah, it worked. You know, he's always chewing gum. That one guy that died, that Latin guy that just died. And he was always chewing gum.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Oh, Rayza Ramon? Yeah. Rest in peace. No, his was a toothpick. He was a toothpick. It was in the same vein. Yes. He's all from like fucking Florida.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Whatever. Yeah. Reza Ramon. Yeah. Rest in peace, though, to Reza Ramon. Let's pour one out for Ray's. The bad guy. The bad guy.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Okay, so let's wind it back a little bit when we're discussing if these guys are cool. So before that entire scene with getting the entire crew in on singing to Charlotte, right? What are they doing before that? They're literally making the same bet that they apparently always do. Or he's like, same bet, 20 bucks, I could pull a girl at this bar? Okay, let's just keep a tally on how many things are cool and not cool, as I write. run through this. All right?
Starting point is 00:24:37 You want to do that? What do you guys think? Is that cool? Let's go for it. I just say cool or douchey? That one's kind of dushy to me. Yeah, watch me pull this girl is not a cool move. How much you want to bet?
Starting point is 00:24:47 20 bucks I pull any girl I want. Sees Charlotte, locks eyes on her, and he's like, oh, she's lost that feeling. He's like, damn, I hate when she's done that. So boom, now he's got to get the entire crew involved on a stupid bet that he made because his manhood's on the line now. Let's not forget he robs the microphone. phone from the band. Then Rob's just picks up a live mic that is clearly
Starting point is 00:25:11 not meant for his use, but now he's got the whole team involved. Just imagine being anybody else in the bar. I feel like I remember seeing this happen at some point. I had to think that there was definitely a stretch of time where this was a very common thing. Every fraternity throughout
Starting point is 00:25:59 the early to mid-90s attempted this at least once. if not every other weekend. And the late 80s, too. Fuck it. Let's go all the way back to when this movie first came out. I think we did that in about like 2002. I feel like I've seen it. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I feel like we did it for our preference. I'm not mistaken, dude. I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure we did that. Can I say one thing? I think we nailed it. Oh, my God. I'm almost positive because we all had to wear white.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Remember? But we didn't bet. We ought to wear white in our preference. I'm almost positive. At least we did it. I think we had to sing in bars. We didn't bet any money though. So it was cool.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Oh, yeah. Right. just having 20 in the line to like a bitch you can pull this girl kind of douchey then he sits down he's like hey hey guys I did it I sat next to a girl
Starting point is 00:26:38 whew and then he starts talking to her right and she's like oh you do that a lot and you're like yeah you know I just only tried it twice how to go the first time
Starting point is 00:26:49 crashed and burned what about the second time I'll let you know tomorrow but right now it's looking pretty good actually you've only done this twice Oh, how'd you do? Crashed and burned on the first one.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It wasn't pretty. The second? I don't know. I'll tell you tomorrow, but it's looking good so far. Pretty cool. I like the line. I like the line. I like the pun.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I like the pun. I guess because it doesn't insinuate that he'd be like waking up next to her, I kind of heard it that way. Like, I'll let you know in the morning. Like, that's kind of why I heard it. But I guess it could be insinuate otherwise. I don't know. That one around the fence.
Starting point is 00:27:29 out either way her old guy friend shows up boom oh see gotta go i'm here with a guy and then she goes to the bathroom home dude straight stocks her in the bathroom walks in the bathroom at which point in my notes i wrote how many laws can mav break in a single day let's go through it he already buzzed the tower right he straight up should be in jail he got stole a microphone stole a microphone from the DJ. Speeding on the motorcycle. Speeding on a motorcycle. And now he's walking into a woman's bathroom. Like it's just a cool move.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Hey, hey. He's dangerous. You better watch out. Exactly. This is the problem with a guy who just thinks being dangerous is just like a cool aspect. Like, no. Can I say something that is cool when they're playing the volleyball scene which in and of itself is a scene that could be talked about. But the
Starting point is 00:28:20 hand clap of the high five up top, a double double. Bring it back down. It's a cool clap. A lot of people did that after that. Yeah, it was a cool clap. I feel like especially in 1986, that was probably still relatively fresh. We should probably do that like whenever we're done with this. I'm down.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It feels good. It's a good. Just play some shirtless volleyball. A double clap clap. Yeah. A double clap. I want to admit that. So going to the pro side of are they cool, I'm going to put down in the, yeah, that was
Starting point is 00:28:45 kind of cool. I like that hand clap. All right. Let's jump to when he goes on his first date with Charlotte then. And she says 530, Sharp puts it on the paper. He's entangled in the. this volleyball game that was locked up at 2-2. He had to finish that shit, right?
Starting point is 00:29:00 He didn't finish it, though. He didn't finish the game. That's even worse about that. He played a game, went too long, and still didn't finish the game, and still was late to her. That's crazy. Un-cool. He lost on all fronts there. That's an uncool tally right there.
Starting point is 00:29:12 He's not cool with the team. You're like, you left us? We're in a 2-2 dead heat, and then he showed up to her late. Doesn't answer the door. And you know what's funny? It's just taking inventory of all the ways that Maverick conducts himself throughout this movie. I hadn't seen this movie before I watched it last night since I was like a kid.
Starting point is 00:29:30 But as I was watching that scene, I was like, you know what? Why do I know he's about to just walk in the backyard and just walk through her window or something like that? He's just going to invade just because he assumes he's allowed to walk in. Not only does he do that,
Starting point is 00:29:45 but he shows up to the date, and the first thing he says to her is it's cool if I use your shower. So you don't mind, I'm going to Just take a quick shower while you're finishing up here. Yeah, I do mine. Look, he's here for a date, right? That was made clear.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I will cook you dinner, be there at 5.30 p.m. sharp, and we'll have our first date. So cool, no, considerate, yes. Because I smell like shit. I smell like man, sweat, and sand. Looking out for that. Looking out for that, same. And she's like, yeah, I do very much mind if you do that,
Starting point is 00:30:25 because that's who just enters a woman's house. So the first thing he asked on a date is, can I use your shower? So then they end up chatting it up, you know, talking it out. He starts telling her about his dad. They get a little closer. Seems like stuff's about to go down. And he's like, nay, I'm not going to make a move right now. You know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm really going to see about that shower. I really actually want to use your shower. That's mostly what I'm here to do. And he doesn't even ask at that point. He's like, I'm going to take a shower. he just calls it out and he goes and does and take a shower so I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:02 I don't know if we were keeping Talia of what was cool and what was dushy and that but I got besides that that's that's not okay you tell me what that is to you and I've done that before on a first date this was their first date did you feel cool
Starting point is 00:31:17 no I felt dirty and I needed a shower so that's one for the uncool but consider it you're a gentleman yes all right so yeah so we'll go ahead and say So that is cool to be a joke. That's what's really cool.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Just be yourself. You know, something cool about this movie or uncool is that I can't keep up with the action of this movie. That's a great point. The flight scenes are just, it's just somebody talking in a cockpit and then an F-16 making a maneuver and then back to the cockpit. And then an F-16 going another maneuver shooting and then another. And just constant, it's like, whoa, what is going on? And that's half the movie. his cockpit, somebody talking in the cockpit,
Starting point is 00:31:58 and then F-16 flying by doing a fantastic, which in 1986 was probably cool because nobody ever ever seen F-16s. And honestly, it's cool now. Like, you don't see F-16s very often, but when you're sitting back watching the movie, it's like, holy shit, I don't know what's going on. This shit is way too actiony.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Jason, did you have that problem when you watch it by any chance? Like, following the actual scenes that were taking place in here. I may have, like, pulled my phone up a couple times and just, like, F-16s really do this? Can this F-16 slam on the brakes? Are there brakes? Do they have brakes in the sky? It's actually a great point.
Starting point is 00:32:34 ABS? He's like, why are you getting so close to him? He's like, I'm going to hit the brakes, and he's going to fly right past me like they're on the freeway or something. I'm going to slow down. I totally get that. I can see that. I'm going to hit the brakes.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Like, I don't know how you. And he does. He stops, and the guy just goes, this is why I'm not a pilot, though, because someone says hit the brakes and be like, oh, fucking brakes. What are we turn it off then? Wait, the sky has brakes?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I didn't realize that. When we reverse it? What you want to do you? Put in neutral? No, I'm glad you brought that up because that's exactly what I had. The entire, all the fight scenes, I was trying to focus on what was happening. I felt myself kept tuning out. Like, I don't, they all kind of look the same.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And by the way, cool scenes totally makes you want to be a fighter pilot. Like, it looks awesome the way they're like, fighter on the sky. I wonder how many people became fire pilots because of those, like, they were like, dude, I got to do that. It went through the sky. How many people like buzzed the tower and got fired their first day? A lot. I'm sure there's been somebody then. What if somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:26 actually ran into like a tower like wanton row big because they're just like was up i'm going to buzz the tower they call me scorpion i play by my own rules throws the aviators on like in the fighter jet and then he just crashes in a wall that sounds like i hope that that sounds like a pretty cool guy that's he went out like a champ scorpion do whatever fucking wants mavigan it's probably how he would have wanted to go out yeah so one last point on the cool versus douche thing right mav he plays dangerously We know that. Charlotte's obviously sort of like an above figure who's got to make her assessments because it's her job. And she calls out, while he did not conduct himself as he was supposed to, the result was good. But I wouldn't recommend doing it the way he did it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Mav just acts like an absolute dipshit immediately. He storms out. She chases after him for some reason to try to explain herself. As she tried to explain herself, he's just like revving his bike engine. like, oh, what's that? Oh, okay, here you. You guys speak a little louder. And then he just revs off.
Starting point is 00:34:33 She chases him down in his car. I don't even know why she's trying this hard to explain her point. Like, honestly, you're doing your fucking job. And we all know Mav is dangerous. Cutting people off and shit too. Yeah. She became Maverick herself. A little bit to try to tame the Maverick.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And either way, like, he deserved to get called out because he does this shit all the time. And as I said at the beginning, it always just kind of falls in his feet. lap and everybody's just like but you know what damn it you're the best and it does again she stops them at the side and then she's just like i don't want anybody know that i'm falling for you starts making out with them in public by the way not doing a good job of that i don't know it knows that you're in love yeah the 405 is just like the fuck this bitch is in love anybody who followed
Starting point is 00:35:17 you out of work they're catching the whole show right now so everybody watching this movie just so my answer is uh i don't know I kind of think these guys are a little dushy. I think that what saves them is that they're fighter pilots, but because they have a cool job and they wear their cool aviators, they feel they can conduct themselves however they want to. And Mav honestly, he mostly crashes and burns for me when it comes to him interacting in general social instances.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And the other guys around them just kind of... So you're saying they look cool? They have the potential of being cool, but their coolness is completely washed away by the deuce beggary. A lot of deuce be of what they're doing. Well, let me ask you this. Who was cooler to you, Justin? Ice or Mav? Which one do you side with?
Starting point is 00:36:12 And their little best man beef? I'd have to say, you know, as much as the movie makes you want to like Mav, Maverick, and that's the guy you're supposed to be going for, Iceman had his shit together. He was a better pilot. He was more conservative, the best on the squad. And let's be honest, great looking. I love that, man. He was easy on the eyes.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He was easy on the eyes. Great smile. I'm going to go up right on that boat right there. Or that F-16 and say that Iceman is... That's exactly cool. And it's Val Kilmer. What a smile. Those dimples?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah, if I walked into a group and they're like, oh, this is Iceman. I'm like, this guy's fucking cool. Like, I don't even... You got to say a word, bro. Mavericks over here, you'd be like, no. What's your name? Like Dallas Mavericks? Fuck this guy.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Exactly the note that I took. I remember as a kid, you know, whenever I watched this in my childhood, as most movies do, they take you along the journey from one guy's perspective as they do Maverick in this one. And you tend to just want to side with him. And when you're a kid, you really do. So they kind of make Iceman look like he's the asshole to his foil, just to be like, I don't like you. You're dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:23 You're like, that's how he rides, though. That's, you got to get used to that. Yeah. And now I was watching it back as an adult, and I was just like, every single point Iceman makes is completely valid. Every one of them, he's on top of his game. They all talk about he's the best. He ends up winning, like, flyer of the year or whatever that award is.
Starting point is 00:37:42 That's a good award. MVP of the season, he's in first place. And it's because he follows instructions and he's good at what the fuck he does. And one thing that I totally had missed ever previously, Cougar, the guy at the beginning, who ends up quitting because he folds like a lawn chair, as soon as Iceman hears about the whole reckless behavior he did, he's like, hey, who was covering Cougar while he was losing his shit? And he was like, oh, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You were supposed to be on his case because of your recklessness. Cougar quit the whole force, right? And then what else happens because of Mazz recklessness? You lose good. You killed goose. Right? We should probably start looking into these pilots that are dangerous and stop rewarding them with the whole,
Starting point is 00:38:29 Damn, you're the best. By the way, what a sad death. That's probably pretty brutal. Yeah. You're not expecting it. You think everybody's going to live in this movie. Oh, man. It's going to get the competition.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Right after you're getting the whole family, like him singing at the piano with a family, everything looks so happy. Great balls of fire. Meg Ryan just looks like the best wife you could possibly want, you know, 80s-wise. And then, boom, Maverick fucks up, kills his barn. Where do we rank Goose's death in terms of sad 80s? Oh, is that number three? No, number three is the thingies.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's right. You call this a subhead number three. Well, I don't know how to rank it because there's so many, but I'm going to, there's someone that stick out in my head, right, of deaths that happen in movies. Yeah. I'm going to go with... I feel like you're going to name one that I'm going to say, so go for it. Well, I'm going first. Bambi's mom.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's a given. You have to add Bambi's mom. You know? Yeah. And then... Let's go around the room. Let's play, you know, everybody get a chance. Okay, well, that's my number one for me.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah. Jayway. I thought you were going to say Mufasa because... Oh, good one. That one got me, for sure. Yeah. That was pretty brutal. He died, you know, I think he's a Disney movie out.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Dad wake up. Come on. It's like the sad death draft right now. Oh, my goodness. I'm going to go Apollo Creed. Did not see that coming. He was in his youth, his physical practice. It was supposed to be an exhibition, Jason.
Starting point is 00:39:53 All right? What the hell? Somebody corralled this Drago guy. He hit him like nine times after the bell in an exhibition when he was clearly not well. He probably should have been arrested at that point right there, right? You know, like, if it happened today, they would actually go to the tape and be like, oh, look at all these punches he did after the bell. That was completely uncalled for. It was ringing the ruffs getting away.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Apollo Creed. That's my sad of step. Jess, back to you Kept thinking of one And it kept It's not a good one Jason I don't got anything
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm going to take I need a top three I need a second I got one more for you I got a little sad about it I got sad Yeah yeah Let's pick it up
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm gonna step away I got one more for you though McColley Culkin and my girl That's a count one Oh man he can't see without his glasses The bees and shit Bees take you out I actually say that
Starting point is 00:40:44 Every time I don't have my glasses on Which is stupid Because the kid died But whatever You quote my eyes girl. Every time I don't have my glasses. I can't see without my glasses.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Ah, man. But it's serious because I really can't see anything. All right. Let's shake off the sadness. Bami's mom. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Right. All right. Let's get into... And then Bambi's dad, such a fucking asshole comes in. Doesn't even say, like, cuddle. Anyway. I don't know. I've seen Bambi, like, ever.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I've watched it. I just know that Bambi's mom dies and it's like sad. And then his dad comes and gets him later. And his dad's an asshole doesn't even like cuddle him. He's like, let's go. Fucking, let's roll. It doesn't even like... Do dads usually cuddle?
Starting point is 00:41:20 I mean, he didn't do little. His mom died. I mean, he could have probably done. He was in the meadow. He was in the meadow and there was, you know, anyway. Yeah. Move on. Different movie.
Starting point is 00:41:28 All right. Let's stick to the Top Gun while we're on. What do they call? Tarmac? Let's stick to the tarmac while we're on Top Gun. We'll stay in the hangar. Yeah, yeah. Let's get ready to depart on our next thing.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Our next thing. Our next thing, which brings us the thing number three. Number three. And thing number three is always when we get into the thingy awards. Thingies, thingies, thingies, thing. It's when we give out our awards for our favorite performances of the film, in which always begins with our MVP award, previously known as LeBron Award. I think we'll just call it the MVP award now.
Starting point is 00:42:10 No shade on LeBron, but I just feel like my thing before was always. LeBron should have been MVP all the years he wasn't, so it was almost like an undeserving. It's like who deserve the MVP, despite the obvious one. Just tell it MVP award. Jason, who's your MVP of Top Gun? This is going to be a curveball right here, but I'm just going to say it. I'm trained.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I think the MVP of this movie are the planes. Because without the planes, you ain't got shit. What would this movie be without the fantastic action? I know we couldn't really like follow because it was just a little much. But it was still like, whoa. And I can't see without my glasses. but those planes just fucking crushed it the whole movie. I think Justin called it out earlier when you said that this must have made so many people want to be fighter pilots after this.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So I would say, yeah, the Naval Air Force, they, or is that what they're called? The Naval? Sure. I think just the Air Force. Whatever they're doing, whatever they're doing. It says in the first paragraph, I'm not, I read the paragraph of the very, opening scene. I hate when movies want me to start by like reading a whole paragraph.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I've griped many a times about Star Wars having the gall to start off their first movie by having a seven paragraph going up and I'm reading about characters I don't know yet. And I'm like, just get me invested by showing me a crazy scene. Teach me who these characters are by action. Let me see some visuals. So yeah, I don't know. Read that paragraph back. Whatever those guys are that they do at Top Gun.
Starting point is 00:43:45 that number had to go up substantially after this movie. So, yeah, it's a good call. That's my MVP. Justin, who's your MVP? Ice man. Just the obvious. Clear cut. Who was the best fighter?
Starting point is 00:44:00 It was the best. Ice man. Simple as that. We talked about it already. No need to explain anymore. Yeah. It's not the same movie without him for sure. A lot of close stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Plus I love Val Kilmer. I'm a fan of Val Kilmer. And many of his movies that he's done, Willow. Specifically. Tombstone. Tombstone also. You know what? There's a great Valcomer movie
Starting point is 00:44:21 that gets slept on is the Dors. He does such... What's that saying? His marriage went under because he went so into that movie and becoming that character. Yeah. Why am I blanking on his name right now?
Starting point is 00:44:36 The Dors. Yeah. Jim Morrison. Jim Morrison. Jim Morrison and the weird naked Indian. He does such... He does such a good Jim Morrison and that. He literally,
Starting point is 00:44:45 becomes that character. And yeah, no, I would agree with you. Actually, I had Iceman, too. As the reasons I said previously, he's clearly the better pilot. The only reason that you kind of see him as a heel throughout it, at least in my young eyes when I first watched it, and I think a lot of people as it first came out, because they want you to root for Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It's sort of as he carries himself, the way they first show him, and he's got his aviators on at the bar, and he, like, sips his cocktail, he looks around. and he does that, you know. You guys really are, cowboys. What's your problem, Kazansky? You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go up in the air, you're unsafe.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I don't like you because you're dangerous. That's right. Nice. Man, I am dangerous. Like, stick to your point, bro. He told Maver, I don't like you because you're dangerous. That's a real problem amongst pilots. You're literally out there when we're practicing,
Starting point is 00:45:48 I'm going to go head off. with him and you play a game of chicken in the sky like we need to address this and he just said to you that's right i am dangerous and instead of coming back with a that's not good he literally just goes chumps bites his teeth at him and that's just like yep let's put an exclamation pouring on that sentence there we go no more need be said so yeah i got ice man as my MVP too he's the best he wins the MVP of the actual training season for a reason the best. You can be my wingman anytime.
Starting point is 00:46:21 His voice changes all. Bullshit. You should be mine. All right. I'm just going to go ahead and do this now. On that whole celebration on the final landing, on the tarmac. What happened to Hollywood? Remember the beginning of that scene?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Hollywood gets shot. And he's like, I'm hit. And then he has to deploy. And then they don't even show him land or if he ends up safe. break left I'm hit I'm hit we're coming apart
Starting point is 00:46:53 I can't control it 090 we're going down what's been hit what's been hit shit what's been hit what's been hit
Starting point is 00:47:02 we've lost Hollywood repeat we've lost Hollywood I looked at it closely and I was like I never saw what happened to Hollywood after that so Hollywood's just out there
Starting point is 00:47:11 floating in the Indian Ocean and they're all on the tarmac being like yeah we did it they're celebrating and they're like let's go get a here you can be my wingman anytime ah and hog on the guys guys i know i wasn't one of the top
Starting point is 00:47:27 guns but help still out here help it's all you guys got a coastal guard coming that's a cruise ship i guess is that a squid something's touching my foot guys this is why we shouldn't fly with a guy who's so dangerous so anyways so we agree on that that's the mvp the next award is the six man off the bench award who you got for that jesson All right. Okay. The scene would have been really awkward after they got done singing. You never close.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You're right. And then Tom ends and then he does the cheers. But then the song keeps going. Yes. There's a guy, a black guy grabs the mic and continues the song. He does. And keeps the party rolling while Tom could continue to spit his game and do what he's going to do there. I love that song.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I've never seen that approach. Had he not done that, the party gets really awkward. Right. It kind of comes to a stop of like... I love it. I love that. So I'm going to go ahead and go with that guy. I don't know his name.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Never comes in the movie. I think again or after, but he saves the party. His name is sundown? I think so because there's... That's racist. He's the only black guy at the team. It might be. And if that's it, and if that is the name, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But I'm going to give it to him for keeping that party going so that Tom or Maverick can continue to... do his game because if not again really awkward scene right then so right after he's like hey guys i did it yeah yeah right after keep the movie keep the music going because otherwise everybody else would have been like all right i'm gonna take a phone call yeah which yeah they don't have phones but yeah exactly so that's my six man whoever that guy was excellent choice sundown or whatever it's called sundown i'm pretty sure he was the only black guy in the whole fraternity he was he actually took mine i had to go to that too that guy just for that same reason stole that scene out of that
Starting point is 00:49:26 I definitely miss you know Mavericks over here hollering at HomeGrow, but then you just, my eyes were drawn to this guy in the reflector aviator, just like belting it out with the fucking perm or soul glow. Or it's not even that. He didn't have like Jerry Curl, but he had like only juices and berries, you know. It was like a nice little clean cut and he just took off.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And I was like, I want to know where he's going. Took that mic with the wire and just kept going through the crowd. And the lead singer of the band's like, bro, come on. Give me the mic. Give me the fucking mic. Because Mav is crashing in burning. We know that. We don't actually want to stand around and watch that happen.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But that guy steals that scene for me. The sundown. All right, my sixth man, I'm going to go with Slider. Slider is Iceman's wingman, right? He's like his boy the whole time. He's also kind of right. And as I just said, Iceman, kind of in the right the whole time that he's given Mav the business, you know? But he's like the tough guy about it, right?
Starting point is 00:50:19 But mostly because in the volleyball scene, aforementioned, he is hard flexing the entire time. Every time they show Slider, he's like, as he's like serving the ball, he's like holding it like this, it looks uncomfortable. The way he's holding the ball. He's like, look, I only hold it this way. I'm trying to serve it, but like my flex is going to go down. The only time that Slider falls apart for me is in that seed when Mav tries a hit on Charlotte again,
Starting point is 00:50:53 and she just puts the note in his book. and it says the note that he ends up seeing like BMI play is 530 sharp you know but Slyder didn't hear that all he heard is crashing and burning right so he's like oh looks like he crashed and burned again everybody's like laughing at Mav and Mav just gets right in his face and he's just like hey it's all intense and he just goes you stink and for some reason that just completely devastates Slyder he's he has no comeback he He looks down and he's like, oh, man, I do. I do smell.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And you see the guys in the background. They're looking at him and they're laughing like, oh, Mav just roasted his ass. Did you see that? All he said was you stink. And, like, he had the upper hand. He always was kind of like that. I'm a cool guy. Kind of talked down on the rook.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And then suddenly he hits him with a you stink and game over. Messed up. Talked about his BL and that was the trigger. I was done. Crazy. It's amazing what little things can do to certain people. Yeah, apparently that just hit him in the weak spot. It's like, fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I've had to get dermatological deodorant for years since I was like six. It's a real thing. What's our final thing? I might have said it wrong. We're doing the thingies. That is the final thing. I don't know, the final thingy. So then we had the practice squad player, which represents the player that maybe you can bump them off.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Do we really need them in this film? Got it. I'm going to go with the goose. You don't need goose? Wow. Bump them. It's like they did. There's a reason why he got rid of it.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They got rid of him in the movie. It's like, it humanizes MAV though. It shows that he has, he says, you're the only family I have. I actually, now that I'm thinking about it. But he did get bumped, right? Goose, by the movie, it did get bumped. So it's defining exactly what you're saying. This is supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So I'm going with the exact person that got bumped like that. So I'm going Goose. Okay. Goose was actually my co- MVP. I felt like he brought a whole humanization to MAV that made you a be able to, to overlook all the duchery they did because he had this more level-headed guy who was kind of trying to keep him grounded
Starting point is 00:53:00 but was also his boy, kind of knew that. Okay, then who's your guy there? Goose's son? I mean, no, it makes it sadder, but... I don't know. Just fucking sitting on the piano. He's easy to scrub out.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, he didn't have any lines. When Mav goes to hug Goose's wife, Meg Ryan at the end, and they're like crying after his death, his son is just literally, sitting in the background reading a magazine just like not even paying attention anything he's just unfazed i can't get a tear from goose's son i can't get a i'm sad my daddy's gone like i can't that's a real strong emotional moment that you missed because goose's son was just kind of irrelevant
Starting point is 00:53:43 he didn't really play any aspect to it oh well you're sitting on the piano and like he was just kind of there to be there to show that goose had a family which i guess okay that did something but i don't know otherwise I'd take Pilot X that was in the background that you didn't need, but that's not a real character. I could do without Charlotte, I guess. I don't think you really need that in the action movie. I don't think you need the love story, huh? Not really.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Not if it's your instructor. I don't know. It's just like. It was weird. Over the top, like, oh, I shouldn't. It's because I'm dangerous, but I am dangerous. So knock, knock, who's here? It's me.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Plus the size difference is always funny to me. Tom is clearly smaller than her. Oh, for sure. By a lot. Which I don't know. That doesn't matter, I guess. But, you know, usually it's not a normal thing to see. to be honest.
Starting point is 00:54:26 It's more just to me that nothing he does should actually work on her. That's my main thing. He comes in with this dushy opener. He's a good-looking guy, though. That's really all that she's trying to overlook all the duchery for. He approaches her with his whack-ass move, like, oh, let me take care of this. Boom. Duck under move.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Does his whole dushy bar song, walks in the bathroom on her, finds out he's his instructor. her, then kind of emasculates her in front of everybody. And then she just lets him off the hook repeatedly. She's like, wow, you're the one, aren't you? Then when she calls him on his bullshit, he's like, fuck you, I'm out, I'm riding my bike into the city. And then she has to chase him down. That works too.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Then he runs in the back door, continually asks her to use his shower. As soon as he decides he can't take a shot, he just bolts on her. There's no like two-way street here. just her ridiculously chasing after one of her students, who is just kind of proved himself to be a douche over and over again. So she's clearly just... Maybe that's what it was. So you're agreeing.
Starting point is 00:55:35 It just kind of left me with like a... He created a weird story. They obviously had to. She like had this wall, you know, this big wall up. And then all of a sudden like just came crumbling down. And I'm going to race in my Carmen gear or whatever fuck car that was. And she was all about him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 All about him. The very fact that was as soon as he decided. I'm out. She just disappeared. And there was no follow-up on that. And it was until he came back and, like, rescued a mission. And then she just shows up, plays that loving feeling again in the jukebox. And you almost, like, forgot about that whole thing up until that point. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Like, it doesn't feel like that love story was necessary to be shoehorned in there. What if Sundown came in? Sang a song, serenaded. Dude, game-changer, right? There he is. So many different ways to write the story. There he is. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Let's move to the. final notes and lasting hot takes that we want to go. Let's get spicy with it. Just before we close out. Okay. Does anybody have any final notes that they want to throw on this episode? Yeah, I just want to go back real quick. Are they good pilots?
Starting point is 00:56:40 Is he a good pilot? And I just want to reiterate that, I don't know, man. Because would you trust him driving a car and shit? No, exactly. Willy-nilly, like, speed bump. I'm just going to fucking floor it right now. now because I'm a loose cannon and I don't care. If you jumped into your Uber and where it would say his name, it said Maverick,
Starting point is 00:57:01 I'm dangerous. One star. I'm getting out. And I do not need this ride that bad. All right. So here's some final notes. You know, it's controversial, but I don't even think it can be ignored. Heavy gay vibes.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Like, I feel like a lot of people have seen the scene. I don't even know what movie that's from. Tarantino. But the Tarantino is having a whole. description of it. Not even that withstanding. That scene when they first have their first meeting those two guys,
Starting point is 00:57:32 I just took it as those two guys are gay together. They have their arms around each other and he's talking about some pilot stuff and he's like, makes me hard just thinking about it. The other guy looks at him and goes, don't tease me. And then at the end of that scene, they're literally holding their arms around each other and they're just locked
Starting point is 00:57:48 eyes. And then in the next scene, Mavon Ice, when they meet at the bar, their faces are no more than two inches apart the entire time. Like nose themed each other. It's like Mick Jagger and David Bowie in that music video. Like they're face to face. So I feel like if they were going to go, maybe it was a different time, it was his 80s,
Starting point is 00:58:10 but you're going to actually like go ahead and like make that part of the story. Just go all in on it, you know. But you tell me if they added that to the new Maverick story. But heavy gay vibes in the TG meeting. I will say the difference. They do the volleyball scene in this movie, and in the new movie, it's a flag football scene. Oh, you must have been all over that. I was loving.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I was like, oh, he switched to the flag football. You started critiquing the quarterback play. Terrible quarterback skills. I can tell that he wasn't doing the full release. Okay. Another note. Why does Mab just hard stare at Charlotte the whole time he's in the elevator with her? Right after they kind of first took up.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And they're like, let's keep this quiet around the office. And he gets in the elevator and they see each other. And he just stares at her the whole time. Even when some other guy gets in it, he just continues to stare at her. He's just honoring her wishes, you know. I know, but he's not playing coy at all. He's literally just being like, I'm in love, I'm in love, and I don't care who knows it. Veronica Cornington and I had sex and we are in love.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Why is nobody else in a restaurant even look up when they're all singing great balls of fire? I don't know if you else said that. The whole family is like singing, they all get together. Everybody else in the restaurant is just having conversation, like sipping tea. Waiting for the check. Yeah. Check, please.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I mean, like, somebody would at least look up or, like, turn a shoulder. Mav's overreaction of sundown is a bit much. And he's like, hey, man, you had the shot. He's like, I will turn the shot when I'm good and ready. He was like, bro, I was just telling you. It's like, it's like a teammate being like, yo, lay off a man sundown. Hey, I was wide open under the rim in the last play.
Starting point is 00:59:48 You should hit me. Lay off my man sundown. Oh, we'll pass when I'm running. Yeah. Sundown is our six-man. Sun-down six-man. And a final question. How quickly did Mav regret throwing the dog tags into the ocean as soon as he did it?
Starting point is 01:00:03 Super quick. Why would he do that? Because he's dangerous. He's dangerous. Trying to prove a point here. That was his dad's and Goose's dog tags, right? I think. Don't you think, like, I don't know, Goose's wife might want that?
Starting point is 01:00:19 He's moving on, you know. He's so weird. I don't know. He just follows along the story that Mav, he's dangerous, kind of selfish, and doesn't really give a shit about Goose's wife. I don't give a shit. Yeah. Or anybody else.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So anyways, that is three things about this movie, Top Gun version. We will be back with another classic film because three things is back in the mix. So get ready for y'all. Jag, Jayway, you can be my wingman anytime. bullshit. You could be mine. Yay! Where's Hollywood? Guys.
Starting point is 01:00:59 We are out of here.

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