Dissect DJs - Uncle Sam - I Don't Ever Want to See You Again

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

DJ JAG brings us this throwback from the 90s that may just contain the most F'd up story in 90's R&B history, as Castle learns of it for the first time. From the product of Boyz II Men, we got Uncle Sam (yes that's really the name he went with) and his soulful jam "I Don't Ever Want to See You Again". Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

I said D. What's going on everybody? It's your boy DJ MC Jag. And we back, baby. What up, Steve? What's up, Jag? So we got a song for you here. This one took me back.

This one I heard while I was listening to my 90s R&B deep cuts and hidden gems, Spotify playlist that I found. Thank you Spotify for this whole new way of finding music. But then I heard it and I remember, oh, I remember hearing the song as a kid. I remember my sister singing this song. I remember being on the radio and I tried it on karaoke. And I must say I did it. I did it below average job on karaoke. But Castle, I've come to find, doesn't know this song.

Yeah, sometimes we do a song for you, the audience. Sometimes we do a song for Castle. And sometimes we do a jam for Jag. And that is definitely what this is. What is the song called? This is called I Don't Ever Want to See You Again by Uncle Sam. Oh, I thought the name of this. All he said to me was I want to do a song called Uncle Sam.

And this being like Fourth of July season, I just assumed it would be some kind of patriotic number. I could see that too. I wonder if he has any patriotic songs. And now I'm wondering what the hell we're doing. So it's the artist's name Uncle Sam. So you said to me we were doing an Uncle Sam song and just assumed I would know the artist

and then I would know which song of that artist you were talking about. Well, because you would know quickly that Uncle Sam only really has a one hit wonder. I doubt he has a lot of hits, yeah. This was it. I can believe that. Okay, well, I already forgot the name of the song, and I actually almost forgot, maybe listen to like a 16 count right there, and it felt like two minutes. It felt like, I was like, this song, it's one of those songs that I've made,

is like, this song's not getting into it anytime quick. So I hope Justin cuts out of the intro real quick. And you did, I guess. But I have a feeling we're going to get to like another 16 counts before it starts. No, no, it starts off right here. And the great thing about this song is he speaks exactly what's happening. And we're going to be able to stop throughout the song and talk about exactly what's happening to the story throughout the song.

And that's it. I'm hoping it makes sense. It will. Because as we go through this, I will remind everybody that we are the DJs that like to spin it, mix it, throw it back, and dissect it. You know how we do this. All right, let's get into it.

All right, what's happening so far? I don't have the lyrics in front of me. so I'm not even sure. I already forgot the name of the song again. I'm going to type it in this time. All I remember is Uncle Sam. All right. I'll tell you what's happening while you're looking at it.

I don't ever want to see you again, Uncle Sam. The beginning of lyrics start with early one morning when you were asleep. So you got this woman asleep early in the morning. He received the letter, but there was no addressee. So he received a blank letter. It paid it no mind. In fact, he wanted to send it back,

but he couldn't send it back because there was no addressee on it. it's going to make it hard but something that he was feeling said open it and that's where we are it's that simple it's pretty simple yeah woman sleeping got a letter doesn't know who it's for wanted to send it back but he was like no let me open this thing that's how bombs show up at your house by the way just opening an unmarked letter that has no forwarding address or like post it no what would you do already at this point like you got a letter would you are you opening it like what the hell's this thing you got to be uh the curiosity would get to me if it had my name written on it

There's nothing on it. It's just a blank. Oh, then, yeah, I'd probably toss it in. Right? Like, I'm not answered. I'm not really, he received the letter, but there was no addressee. Does that mean there was no addressee, like, who it's from? Hang on a second.

Do you keep saying addressy as, like, the word address? No, it says addressy. Look at the lyrics. In fact. Addressy, so it wasn't actually written. What is a dressie? Let me look up addressee. I guess that would be who it's written for.

So, yeah, if there was an envelope with no name on it. I think addressee might be, like, who it's two. The person to whom something typically a letter is addressed. Yeah, exactly. So he has a letter that doesn't have a name on it at this point. Yeah, I think I would look at that as trash, a little sketch. That trash, like what this is. If it had said like my name, like written handwriting,

it just said like Ryan and it was like written in like a Sharpie. So it wasn't like. Oh, you got to open that. I'm going to open that. But blank, blank letter, no addressy. Yeah, I don't think I'm looking at that. I don't think I'm looking at that, right? What am I doing with that?

Maybe I don't know what I'm doing with that. But he. He decides to open it. All right, got to ask you. I'm going to ask you pretty much every time. What do you think is happening is that's happening is Uncle Sam listen to a lot of boys to men in the early mid-90s. And he was inspired.

This has the exact flow and sound of a boys to men song. Sounds like a track up there, to be honest. So I looked it up and it was 1997, which is right in line with somebody that just got influenced by Boys to Men. like, I'm going to make, I can do that. I can make some sad, slow R&B songs with kind of that whining soul voice, you know, that like will make you actually want to sing. True.

I agree with all that, but what do you think is happening in the story? Okay, so he, I don't know why he got a letter that had some fucked up shit in it, right? Yeah, so what is it? It said, uh, your love is ending. That's the line that stood out to me. Mm-hmm. What, like, what an unnecessary dig to take in letter form? You start oh I hope this letter finds you in time

Well the part that gets me actually is out the gate Let's go from the beginning It said dear reader wants close friend of mine I hope that this letter finds you in time So a close friend like old friend of his Wrote him a letter hope he finds it Because your love is ending And my life is just beginning

With a woman that I know you hold dear to you What an eloquently written flex On I'm taking your woman Talk Yeah Is that one? it is. I just felt like...

That's what I said. That's basically, rebe it. Because your love is ending. Your love with your woman. My life's just beginning with a woman. I know you hold dear to you. Okay, so I didn't connect the dot. I kind of like checked out after because my life is just beginning. And I was like,

the fact that he decided to put pen to paper, slip an unmarked note just to be like, hey, your love is ending. But by the way, my life is awesome. It's just beginning. I am taking all right now. That's exactly what's happening. And it's his old friend. Okay, but I didn't get to the part where he apparently is trying to flex on the fact that like,

okay, I got your girl, man, what up? But you know what I noticed? And I just noticed this while I was like thinking about it earlier. His woman is sleeping in the room right now. That's how this started. It's not even that broken up. Like, they're his girls in the room. And now he's reading this.

And the guy's like, oh, your love's in and I'm taking your woman while she's sleeping. There's almost like a 1997 innocence to the fuckery that this is. And that he had to write a letter. And this had to be done in a letter because now this shit would be done in a text. You'd be like, hey, yo, your girl's sleeping next to you right now? Because she was sleeping next to this last night. Yo, what up? Oh, trick your girl, Max.

Uncle Sam. I got your girl, Sam. Come peep this. I don't even know why I'm telling you this in a letter form, but I feel like you need to know because I need to feel best about myself. That's what I'm getting at this point. Like, I don't know. We'll see what the purpose of letter is.

but like it feels like he really just sent it so like I don't know rub some shit in deep and like make himself feel better by himself yeah no no what's your dick I know you're the one I know it's exactly what I've been kind of leading to

is like basically he's getting a letter from an old friend of his old best friend of his close friend maybe not best friend close friend of his that the guy's telling him through the letter that you're about to lose your woman I'm taking her and then the rest of the song is not Uncle Sam getting mad

Not Uncle Sam Doing anything about it It's just him saying I don't know What I'll sleep So it was his best friend It was his best friend He was his best friend

So yes That's exactly what's happening This woman that's sleeping in the bedroom Is sleeping with his best friend And his friend is telling him About him sleeping with his woman That's in the room Through a letter

And doing it in a way Like you said that's like Nice but rude Like extremely rude like extremely rude at the same time Who's more in the wrong here? The girl who are sleeping with his best friend or the best friend for doing it

and then choosing to stick it to him via unmarked letter under his door. I would say they were both like almost like maybe even I don't know they're both like wrong in like a terrible capacity if it weren't for the letter but now this dude is just going full blown dick wide

just over the, top like he's pushing it yeah dude what an unnecessary letter to write you know not even trying to like get away with it on the low and be like oh we can't tell them about this is it like no i'm gonna tell them about this in a fucking written letter nice i'm gonna nicely though like nicely eloquently but not nicely there's nothing nice about this letter eloquently your love is dying and mine is taking off my life is just beginning right man so we've gotten through the first verse there's three verses to this so we're just at the beginning of the story

what how much longer does a shit go just keep it going this is basically the same story continued and deeper that's basically what just happened yeah buddy's still being a dick like he's just going in on like

details details now like man I never knew what you were talking about like I know you're like yeah my girl gives it to me she's so good I felt like I was like shut up dude she's not that tight dude your girl sucks and then she touched me. She showed me that stroke.

And then I was like, you know? Yeah. Wow. You know, just getting crazy with it. This guy. Oh, my goodness.

All right. So what do you think's happening now? This guy just continue to be a dick wad and dig it in that he's taking his woman? Yeah, this is scandalous shit. Classic 90s R&B scandalous bullshit where we always hear it from the victim. It always comes from the victim, right? Right, they're the ones who write the songs. Name me a song off the top of your head where it was like,

I feel like it exists somewhere, maybe. Like my brain just kind of like got triggered when I started saying it. But is there ever a song when it's just like, yo, I was fucking around on you. And you fucking deserved it because you sucked as a mate. Man, I got to get mine. Like it never happens. It's always like, me, my best friend and my girl,

they were getting it. And they wrote me a letter. I'm pretty sure there's some rap songs that detail with your first thing you said was. I can't think of it, but it sounds like a rap song. I thought of that a Vant song real quick. Pretty much any rap song. But that one is also about like a girl cheating on me. You know, that was one where it was like, fuck what you said.

It don't mean shit now. Fuck all the presents might as well throw. Oh yeah. But that's also, that's like, that's like the response to this song, where like he would be saying that to the girl if she tries to get back. So yeah, that also falls in line of the category of like 90s, 2000s R&B, where it always comes from the voice of that person that's been wronged. And maybe, just maybe, it's those situations that happen in life that give us our best R&B. We can't sleep on that. We can't sleep on the fact that might be right.

That heartbreak, but almost dumb. Gives you the passion. Excessive heartbreak that shouldn't even be given to you in this manner, but it's going to bring you to those depths because your friend's an asshole. This is one of the coldest stories I've heard from this kind of category of song. This friend that wrote up a letter is just digging in, man. I'm like thinking if there was a more fucked up way to deliver this message in a letter. I think maybe on stage.

Maybe it was like, it's your birthday, right? Is he doing a comedy skit or something? No, yeah. And, like, it's your birthday and everybody's like, you're on stage at, like, a club, and everybody's singing you happy birthday. And then he's like, yo. Stop the music. Stop the music.

Sam. Hey, Sam, my man, Uncle Sam, I got something to tell you, bro. Everybody listens. Get on a mic. Turned off the thing. Spotlight on him. Yo, you got a good girl right there, man. And she got an amazing touch.

Oh, I know you said that she had an amazing touch, and I didn't believe you until I felt that touch myself. Oh. God I'm saying Dick, dig, dig Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds We've been fucking Sam Like, yeah, middle of the crowd

Nightly She sleeps out where you asleep You sleep like a rock, bro, thanks for that. Appreciate it. Yeah, exactly, man. And I live in the room next to him, y'all. Yeah, so I think that's the only version of this being announced.

Be more fucked up, man. I feel like if that were to happen, Uncle Sam's response would barely simply be that... All right, I know how you were just using that as a transition to get back into the song. But can you actually imagine if that shit happened? Okay, the whole story I just played out. That's how it goes down. He finds out because the dude makes a fucked up an announcement of his birthday.

And they looks around. Everybody's looking at him. I'm like, oh, man, dude, what are you going to do, Uncle Sam? And then the music just hits. right then and it just goes right into I don't ever want to see you again for some reason there's randomly like four backup singers doing a dance behind

him I feel like that's how it would go in the music video and music video universes that just makes sense that's how shit goes yeah there's always background singers the dancers ready to go just on a hold remember you said that voice to men thing I didn't realize until you said that

how much the song actually does that could listen to this breakdown we're going to get a deep voice breakdown oh my god Love must have been blind That's got to be the same dude, right? Shut up. My best friend now, they say keep the ones you love closer And your enemies keep it closer

But I can't win for losing Because the one I thought It was a friend to me Ended up being my truth I don't want to stop it But I have to but I love it is pretty right man This is a night he's breakdown of boys

Two men killing it at the end They're doing their thing man So I knew I recognized that. Did you? Was it the same deep voice? Right away. So I just did some research. Is Uncle Sam part of Boys to Men?

Uncle Sam was signed to Boys to Men's Stone Creek Records. This song is produced by Nathan Morris, who is the member of Boys to Men who did the deep voice breakdowns. Wow. So that absolutely was still hit. So you called Boys to Men without even like. Yeah, well, I heard the sound right away. But then as I heard that guy's voice, I was just like, that's definitely. That's definitely the same guy.

Either that or it's like the greatest voice of an impression ever. What's up with that guy and him always coming in with like the most deep voice fucked up shit that's happened to him? That's what that voice is for. There's no better use for it than being like, Hey, listen, baby. I mean, Barry White used to use it for like, you know, like lovemaking. This guy always has some shit happen to him. Barry White's got a different like cadence.

He's got like more of a, I'm singing to you about love making. This guy's. All right, stop it. You're going to go too far. Somebody knows that song. Here, do I... Just please stop. Oh, baby.

Stop trying to do Barry. Nathan Morris's voice is more like... The voice of the you did me wrong, and I'm going to tell you about how I'm going to do myself right. Like, that's what his voice is like. It brings back to, like, the confidence, like, into the male kind of somehow. Somehow. Getting over heartbreak via slow R&B bridge.

Let me tell you why Boys to Men... First of all, I was thinking if this exact song was done by Boys to Man, I would have heard it by now, and I would have fucking... It may have, like, done much better. And I'll tell you why, because it would have had Boys to Men slotted in the artist spot and not fucking Uncle Sam. Who the fuck makes their artist name Uncle Sam? Yeah, why wouldn't a producer guy change his name?

The dude's name isn't even Sam. Look that up too I don't know his real name is What a dub name That is a dub name Because it just all it does is automatically attribute to To taxes and like the American dream And like you know

That's not even what you're representing Like if that was what he was represented Like you said country And he was like you know doing He dressed like Apollo Creed and Rocky 4 Yeah like at all times Got it good name But yeah

I will make a correction His name is Sam Turner But find a cooler way Sam's not really a sexy name Can we just say that? Can I say that? Can I say that on the record, especially if you want to toss an uncle in there. Everybody knows the image of Uncle Sam.

Isn't that fucking patriotic dude pointing on you with the beard, you know? The propaganda that used at the Army back in like the World War II days. Yeah, like that, once that got repped as Uncle Sam, like you find another name. Can't use that anymore. Find a stage name, dude. You could be Sam on the low. That's a good name. Sam on the low.

Turn. Yeah, sure. Fuck it. Sam on the low, dude. That's, and like DA. Your name is Sam Turner. How about Sammy Turner? Turner.

Yeah, you kind of like, I like, Sammy turn. Yeah, semi turns. Sammy turn. Anyway, dude,

we're going, oh, yeah, everything. All of them are better. Anything, anything about Uncle Sam. Like,

what you said, you wanted to do his song called Uncle Sam. I was like, it sounds stupid. I don't want to do it. Because, you had no idea.

This is the breakdown was going to happen, no, boys to men involved? I literally agreed to it because I thought it was going to be some patriotic thing we'd do for like 4th July,

but now that I'm hearing it, I'm like, uh, I was a fuck would you go by Uncle Sam. That's a reason your one-hit Wonder Boy. You had The Sound of Boys to Man with Boys to Men backing you. But you're not going to even give him credit for his breakdown. Give you everything.

My love in my wings. And you who violated me. I already forgot about that. I don't never want to see you. I do remember as it was playing. Justin is putting his arms up in the air. You know, like, dude. You got a praise, man.

Video podcast coming soon, real soon. Once my studio is completely done. It's almost there. We're almost ready. But yes, the breakdown was epic, and then, you know, that was it. And he was still going to keep going for another couple seconds. So let's go ahead and finish this song out. There's more Sam Uncle to dole out?

It's more of Uncle Sam breaking it down. What's Sam Uncle? That would be better than Uncle Sam. Sam Uncle is good, yeah. It doesn't sound good, but it sounds better than Uncle Sam. That's true. Well, let's let Sam uncle finish out on his breakdown. I must say that that breakdown at the end really upgrades the song for me.

Like my slaps and snaps increased because of that last minute. Got at least another snap out of it. Yeah, that's the end is it. But there's a story, man. So basically, real quick summary, he gets a letter while his woman sleeping in the room. It's basically from his ex-best friend or actually possibly current best friend that gives him the letter to say, hey. It's something that went awry there. There's got to be.

Something happened. There's no way they were just like at the ball game yesterday. Like throw him back. Might have been. He might have touched him at the game. He looked at her. That's what he felt to touch. And then he just overturned.

So it could have been that quick or it could have been extended. Scandalous, dude. What if this whole time the friend just touched her like you're saying, but she didn't even, like, no word does it say they made love or anything like that. They just said he touched her. So she may not even know that the guy's into her like that. She's sitting in the bedroom like, I didn't even know. I didn't even do anything to him.

This is that guy from Love Actually, who everybody thinks is like super romantic with the fucking cards. That's what this guy's trying to pull. The cute cards. That is exactly what the, that I know you hate that part of Love Actually. I do. It is one of the worst. Because all girls love to talk about that.

Like, that's so romantic. I love that part. I'm like, do you know what's happening in that scene? It's this. It's this guy right here, trying to go after his best friend's girl who he's never even spoken to before. He just, like, stares at her awkwardly like,

oh, my best friend has a hot wife. She somehow touches him. No, no, no, how to deal with it. Then she actually, if she actually, if he had his way, this is the way she would have gone. She actually felt that touch on his upper thigh, and he was like, that's it. I'm going to fuck my best friend's girl,

and I'm going to write him a letter anonymously. Even though I'm signing it, your friend, and you should probably do it. But I will not put his name on the letter. That helps somehow. That keeps it in conspicuous. Yeah. That way, there's a little, there's just enough vagueness that for some reason makes me feel better, even though I did all the boasting in the world in the letter, talk about how my life is taken off.

And yours kind of sucks right now, Sam. Maybe it's because you attacked an uncle onto the front half of your fucking. stage name. It was a stupid move. I told you that 10 years ago, Sam. I will say that he does have that boys to men break down. They definitely had to jump in the studio and help him out a little bit with that. At least Nathan Morris did for sure.

But, like, yeah, that breakdown was dope. It sounded good. You got to love that boys to men sounding breakdown. We don't get breakdowns like that anymore. I just want to thank you for letting me give this song because I had heard it. I was like me and cast, I got to go through this. And I was even more excited when you hadn't heard before you really didn't heard the song before? No, I mean, you might have heard it like,

Somehow, but it wouldn't have... Never paid attention. Clicked, yeah. I mean, it sounds kind of sort of like generic 90s R&B. Gotcha. I'm sure I hit it. When I was like shopping at Macy's or something. And this is one of those songs I once paid attention to when I was younger and

but like, yo, what happened? And now we broke it down as to his friend, his literally best friend was wanting to again, we're getting the female in trouble here and nowhere does it say that she actually like did anything. He could have been insinuating and thinking some of the touches and looks that she was giving him, then now he wants to take his woman. And then he's like, he's already saying like, I'm going to take your woman. He could be a super aggressive, awkward friend.

And then Uncle Sam's now going to be like, you know, it could be a whole, that second story to this. Like the guy from love actually. Yeah, exactly. Come holiday season, we're going to do a whole episode of that. Just so I can do that. Just so I could go all in on how fucked up that guy is. Let's bring another third person to that.

Everybody always wants to make that guy out to be some like sweet romantic. All right, man. So, fucked up story. I'm glad you gave it to me. But great R. 90s R&B. right up their alley with perfect stuff snaps and slaps all right out of five slaps how are you rating uncle samms i don't ever want to see you again i just i always feel like i need to be the the justin body

language communicator he literally thought about every single snap and slap he gave and then still held on to it for like another as he was like looking down and looking at his screen and And then he finally gave a head nod like, that's efficient. Three slaps and a snap. It is. That's where I leave that. It's good. I like it.

I can sing karaoke to it. Brad has a breakdown. It's one of those sing-along songs I enjoy singing. It has that great 90s feel. But the story behind it, it kind of gives you a weird feeling. Kind of like, oh, man, this is a fucked up story. So it kind of makes it make me break down. It's, again, one of those 90s songs that seems like it's a love song.

And you're like, dude, I'm going to sing this to my woman. Then you sing to your woman. You're like, you shouldn't be singing that to your woman. I shouldn't have done that. There's literally thousands of other songs I could have chosen instead. You know what song is like that real quick? It's shy if I ever fall in love. It sounds like a love song, but he's like literally saying,

if I ever fall in love, she'll be somebody, she'll be another friend. Anyway, that's another song. We ever do that song on? You've never done that one. I think me and Juan did it back in the Three Things days. But it could be redone. You can put that in. Yeah, yeah.

Not next because we just did 90s, IronE, 1. I feel like we got to switch up the culture a little bit. But, yeah, we'll get back to that someday. What are you giving this slaps and snaps of Uncle Sam? Go. Did that first one count, or is it just two? No, you preempted that one. Got you.

Two slaps, a snap. It's fine, I don't think I'm going to listen to it again. It's got a weird story that makes you not, like, feel great. I do like to break down. If I could, like, work that, it's, now this is the kind of song that maybe you've listened to it a few more times. Like, you could, like, really get into the last part because I do love some good 90s R&B.

break down. You actually start to sing as you, especially because of the 90s feel, I don't never, it's such an easy to see you again. This song should have done better. It should have been played more because it definitely falls in that wheelhouse of like songs that got played like this all the time. It played quite a play quite a play. I'm telling you this because his name was fucking Uncle Sam. He lost at least a snap for that to me. And another snap for just the fucked upness of the story. We've gone over a few different times. We've gone over a few different about these songs that have

fucked up back stories and how these 90s R&B songs like to be a guy kind of whining about how he's done wrong. If this story is actually coming from anywhere factual nature and there's any truth to this, this dude had a right to make

this song, he had a right to make it a banger, and I'm glad that if nothing else, out of this guy's torturous experience, he was able to turn it into I was going to say gold or platinum record status, but it probably was like silver. Do they do silver?

It was probably like a silver. I don't know, but it was on the charts. Look, it was on the chart run. It was number 37, number 34, 34, 31, 29, 28, 28, 32, 36, 38. So it stayed on the chunks. Right around the mid-20s, mid-30s spectrum. It was 20 for 12 weeks, like for three months.

Sounds about radio, you know. It was like a song that kind of plays, but doesn't play too much. Yeah. You hear it in the background when you're shopping at Macy's. And you're like, I think I've heard that. that's like that's about as high as it goes he needed another this i'll say if he if he wasn't him uncle sam if he had been like one of the boys to men that broke off on his own and this was like his second single i think it would have done much better by the way by the time this is done this is

going to be after fourth of july so should we wish everybody a happy fourth hope you had a good fourth recently no they already had it it's fine all right yeah you don't say it's probably past a week yeah it's going to be a week after the fourth and this gets released we're just a few days away from the fourth now. So we already got another episode released next week. So our Fourth of July song was Uncle Sam. I hope that y'all crush it on the fourth.

I mean, maybe you could have a good 14th. That's still a day, right? July's a dope month. Soak up that summer, guys. And just don't do anything to someone where they'll want to tell you that they don't ever want to see you again. Don't do

anything where you would feel the need to write a very personal letter with an unmarked addressee to your best friend anybody it's just a very unibomber strategy taking out of your business don't do that yeah next