Dissect DJs - Uncut Gems (2019)

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Episode 166 is another classic movie review for you as Ryan Castle is joined by Austin Jones to break down the 2019 Adam Sandler anxiety-inducing thrill ride Uncut Gems!Is this Sandler's best acti...ng performance in a movie? Is Kevin Garnett the best athlete role in any film? Is Julia Foz a red flag sidepiece or a ride or die real one? Does this movie make you want to throw e wild parlay down with everything on the line or never bet again? We break it all down and then some as we slice the opal open and cut up this gem NEXT!Video Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sTTiSsdzzTMListeners of this episode also might enjoy: Adam Sandler, movie reviews, reaction, podcast, A24 Film, Lakeith Stanfield, Julia Fox, The Oscars, film review podcast, Idina Manzel, video podcast, YouTube, Dissect DJs, NBA, playoffs, sports betting, Kalshi, Draft Kings, Prize Picks, FanDuel, Bet MGM, gambling, The Weeknd, Ben Wallace, Tony Allen, basketball, Kobe Bryant, Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers, NY Knicks, Jeremy Lin, New York City, NYC, diamond district, Safdie Brothers, sports movies.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:12 All right, the Dysect DJs are back with another classic movie review. And today, we have a new Challenger. Introducing to the show for the very first time, my Hermosa Edmano, Austin Jones. Thanks for having me, and I'm very honored to be here tonight with you guys. It's been a long time coming. Yeah, we've discussed this for a while. We hang out on the regular and we always talk about getting ourselves in here for a movie review. So we discussed a couple different options.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We kicked around a few ideas, and we landed on uncut gems. Why was Uncut Gems at the top of your mind? Well, you know, I've known you for the last 15 years now, and I'm the wild card, the guy who's always declined every opportunity to be on the show. Is that right? I think this is a treat for Ryan as much as it is for me. This is news to me. And anyway, so Uncut Gems, you know, I know it's a sports-centric and movie-centric kind of podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:09 and, you know, a good mix of both. Adam Sandler, Kevin Garnett. You've got a degenerate gambler and a jeweler. And I think we can all kind of relate to those parlays and those bad beats and those chaste bets that we always look for on the weekends, especially during NFL season. But so yeah, it was between that. And I think it was what, how to lose a guy in 10 days. We might get back to that next time.
Starting point is 00:01:34 All right, all right. So Uncut Gems. It's an A-24 movie. It's an Adam's... Great production company. by the way. Absolutely. Great movies out there.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's an Adam Sandler movie. It's a New York City movie. It's technically a sports movie. But I think above all, it's a gambling movie. And there's a thing about this movie that absolutely hits on both like the excitement that sports gambling brings you, but also the anxiety, the stress and the potential deep dark downfalls of which like that rabbit hole can lead to. And I actually think Adam Sandler knocks it out of the park with this one.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I think it might be my favorite Adam Seller acting performance, but I'm absolutely. I think it's only one he's been nominated for any kind of Academy Award for it. No, he wasn't nominated. He thought he should have been, but yeah, but he ended up not getting nominated. Has he ever been nominated anything? No, he thought this was the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Well, that he'll never be. Yeah, no, this was the one. This was the shot. He's definitely not happy Gilmore, too. That's for damn time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because every other movie, Adam Seller's playing like just Adam Seller being like, I guess, I just kind of here to, uh, yeah. But this whole time, this whole movie had.
Starting point is 00:02:40 his teeth like this. He had a very specific character, you know? He's sort of like that sleazy, New Yorker. New Yorker jewelry salesman, which is, you know, like a racket that I imagine as this movie. How much cologne did he put on for the movie, you think? You could smell the cologne coming through the screen, right? You got to imagine that there's a very specific type that I imagine he probably, either him or the Saftees who directed this movie, did a lot of research on of like the type of person.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Because as you could see in this movie, being like a jewelry, or in New York City, it's a stressful racket, but you also need to constantly hustle to make it in that industry and be able to like actually thrive. The giant district is a street that probably produces hundreds of millions of dollars a year from store to store. So yeah, we sent it on this movie. I hope all you have seen it.
Starting point is 00:03:29 It's a great movie. A little backstory on how him and I first saw it, August of 2020, I think. Yeah, it was right around. So I saw it in the theaters first when I don't actually came out. And that's rare for me. It was actually the last time I saw a movie in a theater for like three years. I felt like the next movie I saw in the theater was actually that Avatar movie that we saw that one time. And that was like 2022. Always a less in theater. Yeah, yeah. So I, because then the
Starting point is 00:03:56 whole pandemic thing, shut the theaters down and everything. So this was like a big one that I actually wanted to see and I was excited to see. It was memorable one for me. But the more memorable watch I had was the time that me and you watched it in Vegas together. Vegas had just opened up and or had been open for a little bit now. And we were just antsy and thought we'd get out there. Him and I didn't, you know, go out to the clubs or anything. We were just out gambling, having a good time. And came back late to the hotel.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And this movie was available for rent. I know it was, like, prime, like, sports season. It was, like, the reopening of sports. Yeah, sports. I remember it was. I think the Kentucky Derby was that weekend. And then there was also, like, NBA playoffs going on. So it was a great sports weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So, like, I was trying to come up with, like, creative parlays, like, all weekend and everything. missing on everything. Tell me about my Houston Lakers bet. Yeah, so I'm 0 for 7 on my sports bets. I just remember I was like batting zero. So I'm down. And the Kentucky Derby, like, of course you're not going to win that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So we're basically just losing our bets all weekend. And so the last game on Sunday night is like, Lakers play the Rockets. And we're like, fuck it. We're just throwing all of this. Everything we have left is going on this game. We're betting on the Lakers, Howie style. and if we don't hit this one, we're just like going home now.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Like that was the thing. I think we've all had these moments. So anyways, we get the courage to go down. And of course, you pull out all the cash you can before you go to Vegas. And I hate those $8 ATM fees. So we get on and pull out more cash even. I go, you know what, if this is it, we're going to make up all the money back and then a little bit of some. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And at least make the trip paid for. You got to make a positive out of this. Vegas, as long as it's paid for, you're happy. Oh, if you can come up on the up, which has happened out of like my 30, 40, 50 trips of Vegas probably like twice but like yeah if you could end up on the positive with what you started with yeah yeah that's a good trip that's a good trip i'll take even stevens yeah even stephen's great so you know we go downstairs and you know the numbers were great we put in a good bed it was lakers the cover minus seven and a half over the houston rockets james hard and lead we make our separate
Starting point is 00:05:59 bets and we go our merry we go back to the room and watch the game so fast forward to the end of the game lebron james goes up up by six lake's up by six and he makes two free throws we're up by eight now And there is a strong 40 seconds left in the game. Was it that much? I thought it was like 20. No, it made me nervous enough because LeBron makes the free throw to go up eight. We got Lakers minus seven and a half. So now we're covering.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And Harding gets the ball. And Hardin is one of those guys where you go, is this guy going to do it to me? Is he going to really go drive to the hoop, make a layup? Lakers got the ball. They're up six, and the game's over. I lose my bet. Hardin, with all due respect to you, man. I love the fact that you walked it up at the slowest pace I've ever seen you ever.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I think it was a nine count. Eight count. It should have been, you know. He was thinking about the strip club. He was done with the game. He was ready to go. I think it was in Houston too. And we are watching that game like a fucking third base coach.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Cradle in front of that thing like it's about to tell us our fortune. So anyways, he dribbles it out. Lakers get the ball back. They dribble it out. We make our best. We go downstairs and these same-aging guys. You just glossed over the fact that once he dribble over half court and we realized he was dribbling it out. He's like, he's drilling it out!
Starting point is 00:07:05 He's dribbling it out! And we start jumping all over each other. One of my favorite bet hits I've ever had. And I realized at that moment, if they had given the ball to Westbrook instead of Hardin, Westbrook for sure is driving in the lane. He's trying to get something out of that. Yeah, yeah. So they gave it to Hardin, and he was like, I'm fucking thinking about the strip club.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I don't get a fuck. Like, he's already on in the next one. Yeah, and he might have Lakers minus seven to have. Who knows? And I was ready to be like, this whole weekend is going to be a terrible bus or like, I can maybe like come up even. That's really what I was fighting for. We might be asking for gas money.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So then after that night, we were like, we don't even want to go out or do anything. Like, let's literally stay in the room and we saw, oh, let's watch Uncut Gems. So we ordered in the room, and then that's when we watched it. And you wouldn't watch that movie after you had a bad gambling nights. But, I mean, who knew, right? I always like a uplifting, positive ending to a story in every movie I watch. And that is not this movie. Unfortunately, this ain't the one.
Starting point is 00:08:01 What's crazy is that this movie starts in, like, Africa. We're like in Ethiopia. It throws you for a loop, like, right out of the gate. It's weird how they do a very. strong focus on like the gems of I mean the movie's called uncut gems and like where these rocks come from in this case and opal they show a guy like all bled at the beginning digging these rocks up and like this is what these people are fighting for in Ethiopia just to get to somebody like Howard to go out there and sell it in the diamond district but they don't ever really educate you that
Starting point is 00:08:28 much other than when Adam's showing KG the like the video on his phone he's like educating him a little bit but it's interesting that they take that take because they want to show you like what the process of like these guys go through to like get these into the dealers hands and it you know separates you a continentally like you said in africa and stuff but so it just it kind of gives you a little prelude into you know what that industry is really like it's dirty it's a filthy industry it really is i mean blood diamonds is another term used and i think was it conier had a song about that blood diamond oh yeah yeah diamonds by sierra leone yeah yeah yeah i don't know how much he called out the industry i'm sure Kanye is very
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's happy to... He'll wrap the diamonds all day, and he's got to hit a message for everything he does. Yeah, so, you know, kind of a prelude to how in deep this industry is into the back end, which we don't see at all. We just get the pretty diamond you buy for your wife for her wedding. Oh, nice. Look at the diamond you got. But imagine all the people that had to dig that up and had to... The slave over it.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So they hit you over there with that. And then there's a constant, like, flow of new age cosmic music happening throughout it, which is interesting, that they keep going. That's kind of like the theme It's like a kaleidoscope You ever looking at colladoscope? Yeah, there's a lot of that And then there's this music going on Yeah, it's like what kaleidoscope would be
Starting point is 00:09:48 If it was transferred to music Yeah And it keeps going throughout the movie And I think I like that vibe I think it's a makes ads an interesting element There aren't those friends here Yeah, I'm uh Yes he told me you're waiting on me
Starting point is 00:10:00 So I'm sorry about that I'm Howard You didn't bring him any water? I don't really need water Thank you all right This is our own spring water. We're the first on the block to have that. Your parents happy for you? All right, so I'm going to tell you I'm in a bit of a rush.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I'm not much time because I got a... What I tell you? I said no water. Can I tell you no water? And then right away, we immediately realize Howard, Adam Sandler's character. He's in some shit. One of the first characters we see in the movie is the guy who ends up fucking capping him. Like, that's one of the first guys you see in his jewelry shop. They end up in like a shakedown right away.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And you realize like, okay, this guy's life is chaos. Adam Sandler's clearly Jewish as his, you know, character shows in the movie. Yeah, they're big on that. But I think that guy who's celebrated Passover and everything. They caps him at the end. I mean, he's a very Italian New Yorker. You know, he's the guy you don't want to owe money to, you know. Otherwise, you're going to count to nine for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Well, he's the goon. Like, the guy he owes money to who we end up finding out is like, in his family, and that was a trippy realization. So there's a guy Arno that he has to like, oh, yeah, it was money to. And the whole time that we're seeing, like, him and those guys, like, shaking him down, then, like, three quarters through the movie, he has Passover with his family, and that guy's, like, there with him, and he's, like, eyeball on him at the table all the time. By the way, Passover has some of these weird traditions where they take a glass of wine and a glass of water,
Starting point is 00:11:30 and they say these words, and they throw this water and wine down on their plate. I want to learn more about that, actually. after this, I've seen this movie. So yeah, you know, something nuanced in the movie. I just kind of want to understand and realize, you know, what that is they were doing with their plates. There's that line that I love that, Adam says, when the guy De Mani asked him, he's like,
Starting point is 00:11:48 what's up with you Jews in basketball? Like, why do you all love basketball so much? And Adam Saylor, he goes, I'll have you know, the very first two points scored in the NBA were scored by a Jew. What was his name again? I wrote his name down. It was like Ozzy something.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Ozzy Sheckman. As he looks at the first. up I'm a quarter Filipino v. my mom's side. Filipinos love basketball. Yeah. Karaoke as well. So his name was Ozzie Shekman. As soon as I heard him say that, I was like, let me look this up, see if he's bullshitting. I look it up. It's fucking true. And his picture is the most like, I look at the picture they had a company is the most like Jewish white guy like photo from like the 50s you've ever seen. Nice. So I love that Adam knew that. Shorts, I imagine. Oh yeah, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And what the fuck is it what you Jewish names in basketball? basketball anyway. I'll have you know the first two points scored in the NBA was at you. Yeah, yeah. Fred Flint's day? No. Ozzy Shackman, 1946 played for the Knicks. I love that Adam Seller knew that and he threw that in there.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Really what this movie so like encompasses like so well and it makes you uneasy the whole time. It makes you feel constant anxiety. There's so many scenes with his chaos happening where like there's a fight happening over here and then he's getting a phone call and then somebody's trying to enter his jewelry. store and he's like this fucking guy like there's so many things happening the same time that demote chaos of like what it would be like to be like working in the diamond district and what it would be like to be living that lifestyle especially when you constantly are owing people all over town and paying of people back that you have to keep track of that then you also like maybe at some point are not willing to and that's why Howard is constantly trying to use gambling to win i'm way and over my
Starting point is 00:13:36 my head and a lot of things. I got these goons that are following me around everywhere to my kids recital for God's sake, like wherever he goes. And he's like, everything can be solved if I just hit this one big bet. And that's something that I think that gambling presents that. I think this movie does a good job shining a spotlight on because a lot of people like will turn to gambling will be like, I can like win it all back. I could have a shitty year.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I could have a year that just, you know. One time. Yeah. Just strip me of everything. But if I can just hit this one giant bet, it's all good. Like, I can solve everything. I'll tell you guys right now, though, if you haven't seen this movie, do not put it on if you're trying to have a nice mellow sleep.
Starting point is 00:14:16 In a city that never sleeps the first time I saw this movie. You know, you put something on. Maybe you have it on for a little while and knock out and catch it again later. No, no. You're not going to bed once you print this one on. Your anxieties will keep you up all night. It's an amazing combination of, like, constant anxiety, but, like, you're constantly, like, curious, like, where this is going.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Because, like, if you're watching it from the first time, like, you're not even sure what this movie is about for, like, the first, like, 30, 40 minutes. Like, if there's not, like, a clear storyline, we know we're following this jeweler, is that how you say? Jewelower. Yeah. That guy, Adam, and the chaotic life that that ensues. Kevin Garnett gets introduced early, and you're not exactly sure what the actual storyline that's happening is, but you're immediately invested and you're focused. you're locked in on like just by the unis and there's a way that they actually use the music that I really like where they have that easy going kind of cosmic music throughout but then in the scenes
Starting point is 00:15:16 where all of a sudden he's getting like chased down and everything it starts hitting you with like dramatic stings and everything and it just really keeps you locked in for the beginning and like I don't think you need to even be into gambling or being in a sports to like be infatuated with like what the story of this movie is and like watching this guy have his life basically fall apart in like every different area. It matter of one basketball series, by the way. It mattered. It took him seven of the games.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah, yeah. Imagine it feels a clean sweep. From game one to game seven, like we just watch his life fall apart. But to be fair, it feels like his life was falling apart, like, way before any of that even started. Because I was just, this just feels like this is how his life goes. And it makes you wonder, like, the people that either, A, rely on selling jewelry as a living or be like gambling as like their livelihood. It kind of almost feels like it's part for the course.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Like this is what, this is the game you play. This is a game you live. As an avid gambler myself, I was very disappointed here in California where the vote to pass legal sports betting was voted down like 90 to 10% wise. It was very disappointing. And all these other states have already done it. Yeah, so I can go to Arizona.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Every time I drive to Utah, which where I have some family live, I get a little piece of Arizona for about 30 minutes, and I make sure I fire up my draft king's account or something, and put a little sports bet in for the weekend. But looking at it as a broader spectrum, I'm actually glad that, at least for us, we don't have, I mean, we all have our means to bed, of course, all the time. But we're going to start seeing some demise of people
Starting point is 00:16:49 of losing families, losing their jobs, losing... I mean, that's been happening. I was wondering, as I was watching this, how many times the way these guys are trying to shake him, down. How often do you think this happens in like regular life when like these, especially in the day of bookies, which is one thing I was thinking as I was watching this. I was like, thank God for draft kings. Have you ever lost a bed with a friend? You know, maybe it was made in jest. Maybe it was made jokingly. Or maybe the other party who
Starting point is 00:17:17 won took it seriously. And they're like, dude, I want my money. Like, dude, I got you, man. Don't worry about it. I'll get back to you on that, you know. And that guy really never pursues. It's like that movie, um, a Bronx tale, right? Colodoro is owed 20 bucks from a kid on his block for whatever reason. I forget. I hadn't seen the movie for a long time. But his, you know, superior, his like kind of mentor in that movie goes, hey, Colodgero, he owes you $20.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But every time he's seen him, you're mad, you get pissed off. You think it's worth $20 to you to never talk to that guy again. Clodro goes, you know what? You're right. I don't care anymore. It's just $20, right? So. He says, that's $20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I never have to deal with that guy again. Exactly. Yeah. But when you're dealing with $200 a dollar. It's a little different. Yeah, these guys are not going to leave you alone. So for the fact that Adam's got to look over his shoulder the entirety of this movie. Again, how many, so NBA gets to the playoffs in the finals, they play every other day.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So that's 14 days worth of just demise, where this man for half a month has to protect his family. Look over his shoulder. It feels like two weeks of like, yeah, just constantly. And to me, that would feel like a lifetime. One 24-hour day where I got to have somebody, you know, after me for something. that I owe them. I couldn't even do it. And this is where gambling comes in because people will look at gambling
Starting point is 00:18:35 as like if I could hit that one bet it'll fix all this bullshit that I've been like trying to fight up. That's why betting in Vegas is better than betting with bookies. Bookies will give you Oh my God, the bookie. They'll give you like a $10,000 allotment right? And then to start with
Starting point is 00:18:51 you don't have to put the money down, which is a dangerous thing. But in Vegas, I bet $100, I have to give them the cash and I get $200 back. straightforward activity. It is. There's, there's no residuals from there. I lose it, I lose it. So there's that scene. But I'm already paid up. There's that scene where he goes to his bookie, which is like Mike Francesa randomly from Mike and the Mad Dog, who's randomly playing his bookie. And he's like working at a restaurant. It takes me back to like the earliest days of putting bets where
Starting point is 00:19:19 like I knew a guy that was like a bartender I worked with. And I would go to him and like he had a guy. And like, that's what you used that to do. And he goes in there and like gives him the bet. And then And what happens? His bet doesn't even get put in because the guys that are trying to chase him down end up stopping the bed even though he hits it. Art, fucking talk to me. I'll listen to him on. Stop saying my fucking name. I have every intention of paying your back. I'm broke right now.
Starting point is 00:19:45 You broke? Which is that. Look at that. Do you remember that? Look at it. That is money that's not mine that I sent to you because I wanted to calm you down. We know for a fact that you placed a bet with that money. Never placed a bet with that money.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yes, you did. No, I did. No, no, no, let me ask you something. I heard that Benny and Eddie are going to Timberlake. You know what else I heard? I heard you resurface your fucking swimming pool. You know how that makes me feel. Never resurface anything.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't know who said that. Give me a key. Give me a key. Give me the keys. You're fucking keys. Get me. The fucking keys. Fine.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Alright, listen. I do. I did. I admit it. I made a bet. And guess what? Guess what? Here's the thing I hit. I hit the bed big. Okay?
Starting point is 00:20:33 You think I'm stupid. You think I'm stupid, Howard. You and your whole fucking family. I'll call the book right now. You get on the phone with him. He'll tell you. I saw the bookie. You're talking about Gary? You spoke to Gary. About what? About what? About you? About how you're taking my money all over town, placing bets. You know what that does to me? Do you know how offensive that is to me? What? You stop the bet?
Starting point is 00:20:57 What do you think, asshole? You stopped the bad? Shut the fuck off. Congratulations, Otto. You fucked ourselves on your motherfucker. You fucked out of the fuck and shit. Take his clothes on. And I remember watching that scene.
Starting point is 00:21:11 First let down of the movie. And I just thought, this is why I actually think we all need to actually appreciate Draft Kings and Kalshi. And you pay first my bookie. To get paid later. Could you imagine if Kalshi was after your ass? Yeah. They take, oh, man. They throw drones in the air to be like, because that's him.
Starting point is 00:21:30 No, Cali would just cut you off. These apps make it so much more easy to like, it's actually more cut and dry. It's like having Vegas in your pocket. So that I appreciate because before it's like kind of how weed changed. Like getting weed used to be like you'd have to go find a dealer and it was a sketchy operation. And now there's like a shop on every other corner in downtown LA. I kind of miss the chase. I'll say it was a lot better back then.
Starting point is 00:21:55 The chase was better with that than it was with. gambling thing because like you don't want to have a bookie chips i'm more afraid to have the bookie chasing me down than anything that would come without oh yeah chase the wheat what would be your grand excuse say you owe 10 grand not a one fraction of what adam sandler owed in the movie imagine you owe 10 grand to somebody and they're chasing down for a couple of years never let that happen what would be your excuse i'm just fish you know like i'm so i'm trying to run away from it and stuff like you know because you got to confront the guy you just got to go face-to-face and say figure out how you're going to get it back to him you can't just keep running from him
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, I don't know See, your mind goes to being like There's something having on my mom That I gotta take care of But I've always had a thing with lying Where it's like, don't lie about something Is happening with a family Because you're putting bad karma on them
Starting point is 00:22:39 You can't put bad booju on that I'll just say, I've seen that go badly Where somebody I knew did that And then some bad shit ended up happening The person that they That they said had like a heart attack And I was just like enough to scare me I was just like, yeah
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, don't bring them into this Don't put their It probably doesn't correlate frequently, but you still don't want to have it come around where it actually didn't. You're like, dude, was that my fault? Don't ever, like, put yourself in over, like, a situation that's, like, you can't unbear yourself from. You know what I mean? And that includes. A few times only because he's had some moments in his life.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But he's always going to have that draw back to him. So if it does happen, it's not because of me. I love the scene when he actually meets K.G. And one of the first questions he asked him, who would win in a fight, Ben Wallace or Tony Allen? He's like, T.A. all day. I remember that. Tony Allen, Memphis, Tony Allen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So they're both like big dudes. Tony Allen's about, all but like six, five, right? He's probably 220. Yeah, but he was a tough motherfucker. He was. He played defense. He was great. But so did Ben Wallace.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Ben Wallace, wristband, afroed out, headband Ben Wallace. I mean, he was good on the boards, but, you know, I don't know if he'd be good in the fight. He went toe to toe with the shack in those early 2000 years, and he took him down twice. So on that alone, I'm going to go with Ben Wallace all day. I think KG would know, though. I think KG would know. And he just looks more intimidating then. But who knows, right?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I'd like to see it. I don't like how he throws DeMani under the bus when he starts doing his watch hustle. KG's in the shop, right? And he's like, yeah, let me show you watches. And he starts, like, giving the watches. Adam immediately, like, sort of is like, yeah, no, I don't have papers for those. Let me show you something else. Yo, yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Kevin was just telling me looking for some watches. Are you looking for watches? Let's go to the wall of watches right there. What are we talking? I was thinking about the Presi, though. Right. You know, but you got that crazy-ass deal? That one for 16.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That crazy one, though. No? Yeah, the, uh, the, uh, the... The present, yeah, yeah. Hey, look at this, right here. Boom. What? That's a small watch for a big man, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You got the details in there? Yeah. You got papers for this? No, listen, I don't have lots of papers, man. The papers, I don't have either one. What are you talking? You sold me the shit, don't me? I remember that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It's a more point, DeMotta, because I don't have these, all right? So how about we move on to the diamonds here? He brought KG there. Does the money have watches on consignment? Yeah, he's like, I told you I would let you keep your watches here, but not sell them in the shop. And it's like, he brought KG there. By the way, DeMani is a fucking hustler, dude. This dude is good at his job.
Starting point is 00:25:21 His job is to, like, go around the streets and, like, bring. like high class people in there. In the few scenes we see DeMani. I want to give props to DeMani, who absolutely cuts it up in his role of like hustling the streets. We see him bring in KG, he brings in Cash Out,
Starting point is 00:25:39 who was also a popular rapper at the time, and he brings in Trinidad James, who had that gold all in my rank. Gold all in my chain. Gold all in my rank. Gold all in my watch. Don't believe me, Jail. So I think I'd be good in that role.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I think I could be a good DeMani in the streets of New York. I think I could, you know, meet the inner work. Cut it as well as DeMani did. Well, I'm saying as good, but, you know, of course, I couldn't walk it with sandals, board shorts and a t-shirt I got on like this way I do. But I'd turn New York, you know, So-Cout New York guy. And I would get in good with all the guys that DeMani has introduced Kevin Garnett and all the guys you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And I think I could be good in that role. But you're right, though. Demani is the ham- He's crushing it And he keeps getting like backhanded by Adam Like I keep calling him Adam I don't know if I want to call him Howard or Adam I was about to ask my first time on the podcast
Starting point is 00:26:33 Is it Sandler or is it Sandler? Howie, howie? Howie, we'll call him Howie. I'll stick to Howie from now on But you know I'm talking about Sandler One of the things that he does That's like interesting And I think these kind of people are real
Starting point is 00:26:46 Is like people like DeMani around him Julia, the girl that's obsessed with them That's super hot We'll go back to her about it. Yeah. like all of them and that guy you see even have been kind of dicked over by him and like he's fucked him over in some way but they all threatened to leave him and even tells them to go ahead and kick rocks but they all stay with them you notice that yeah there's that point where
Starting point is 00:27:10 damani's like so over shit and he's not paying attention to him so he pours shit into the like the fish tank and like fucks up the fish there's something about a character or a maybe a real person like Adam Sandler in this movie where a guy like DeMondi goes, I got a loose entity where I can take advantage of somebody like that, right? Yeah, I guess so. Adam's very taking advantage of worthy. You know, you throw him a couple numbers, make it sound like it's good for him,
Starting point is 00:27:33 and you can swindle Adam. Here's the thing with a guy like that. Because he's constantly trying to make sales all over town and everything, you know, he's ready to, like, throw his Rolexes out there as, like, collateral and everything, and he's ready to, like, make these deals with people. So he's constantly on the hook for stuff that people that he's just trying to bring in his customers That when he has the people in his life that like he trusts you know the ones that like love him He knows that he has them almost as collateral as well
Starting point is 00:28:02 He doesn't care if he throws them under the bus and even his wife and his family like they're constantly Trying to be like what the fuck is going on now like what kind of bullshit? Why am I finding you in the trunk of a car naked during our fucking daughter's recital? his wife goes through the ringer in this movie and he just she just constantly has to be like I'll say this his wife Dina played by Adina Manzel she does such a good like
Starting point is 00:28:29 I'm fucking pissed off at you face but he gives her every reason to have that face throughout the whole movie like can you imagine being married to this guy typically you having kids with this guy typically you get a woman like that her her facial expressions her poignant like ugh I'm so disgusted just disdain look you would actually not be on her side typically right but in this case is like yeah dude i've not seen any reason not to be on your
Starting point is 00:28:52 side like that you're just trying to actually raise a family of three kids and those kids actually had dope rooms did you see when he when he goes home to like watch like the game and he goes in a both his kids room one of them has like this sick with the sports car bed that's the younger one and it's like got like lightups going around it and he goes the other one he's got the chain hoop and he's like yeah duck that one for me you know what that was sick dude why don't we what You know what the industry is missing? What? Bring back those little hoops.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You used to clip on the edge of something. They still have those. Not like it used to be. I've worked in a lot of sports offices. You'll see those around there. I don't know how many of them still have those nowadays, the kids these days. But that kid had a full on real hoop and chain. My least favorite thing about those things, though, were unless you had high settings in your house, which, you know, I think we had a couple of rooms back in the day that could provide for this.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But where in your house could you put one of those hoops where, you'd, you know, you'd, you'd, you'd, you'd you'd put one of those hoops where, you'd, you know, you know, you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd. You had enough room to get good arc in your shot. I mean, you almost had a line driving. My brother had a dope one in our house. The drop down from the bedroom door. He built an extended one. He built an extended one and we used to like launch threes across the room. So that means you had some high ceilings then.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah, we had a good high ceiling in that room. You had to drop it down from the door to give yourself some arch. See, that was the problem. That was the only problem. His rim was like right at like eye level. It would have been cooler if he had to like actually go up. Oh, yeah. If you could throw it up like to like seven feet.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah, yeah. That would have been cool. But, you know, you can only get so much in a three-bedroom apartment while you also have a sick apartment across town with your dope sidepiece. You know what I mean? Which is the thing about this movie. He's just like, this guy appears to be on the surface like set up. Like obviously he's going through like a broken marriage. But like if you were to see a situation on the surface, you're like, okay, you own your own jewelry business.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You have a nice family with three kids, a wife who clearly hates you now. But now you have your new sidepiece that is all about you. He's the master juggler. He's the master juggling thing. And we're constantly watching everything crumble as he's like trying to keep it together. Always has that fucking Sandler's smile on his face and like just trying to like sell everybody around him. But like it's all like falling apart in nothing. And the reason is because he keeps trying to put everything back to gambling.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Any money he actually gathers from everything, he's like, let me all throw it on this bet. And that'll like solve everything. They say the worst thing for a degenerate. constant gambler is is a win. A win is always going to pull a gambler back. He can go three losses to one decent, big, small win, and it always brings him back. But it's always three to one.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You're always taking two steps back, one step forward. You're never winning. That's why Vegas is in business. That's why bookies are in business. So a win for a gambler is the worst thing. Now, it depends on how many losses he has in a row to where he falls off the face of the planet. But that one win always brings him back. And it could bring them back for years, too.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Like, it could be that one big win results in him going ahead and losing the next 20 because, like, he keeps thinking, like, it's going to happen. I mean, we're talking about chasing earlier. I mean, we always call it. Chase Edmonds. Chase Edmonds on a session. Chase whatever you can name. That Sunday night football game.
Starting point is 00:32:04 We're always like, are we Chase Edmondsing it? Chase Utley. Bet the same amount. Yeah, exactly. So they got this technique. They got this technique in, I think it's roulette. So you bet 10 bucks, you lose it. the next bet's got to be 20.
Starting point is 00:32:18 If you lose that, the next bet's going to be 40. So you're always going to come out even eventually, right? I don't fuck with roulette, man. But what if you go 20 in a row? You know? Nobody goes 20 in a row on the roulette, dude. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:32:29 That one's way too much chance for me, you know. That's why I like sports gambling of anything when I go to Vegas. It's because, like, I can at least use my intelligence and knowledge of the sports. Whereas if you go to roulette, it's just straight 50-50, which are not bad odds. It's 48%. Yeah, it's not even 50-50. You get that. You forget about the green ones.
Starting point is 00:32:47 A single and a double. And that's just assuming that you're going for red and black. If you want to actually throw a number on it, like, fucking. I've hit one single number before. It's black 24 is. Kobe Bryant. Dude, he says that when he says when he's putting in the bets at the beginning of the movie, and like when he's first putting those bets in with Mike Frances or whatever has his bookie,
Starting point is 00:33:07 he says, I'll take the under on Kobe Bryant. And I'm like, never take the under on Kobe. 2012. Oh, okay. So I was thinking, you were talking numerically. I think Kobe Bryant won the scoring title that year, by the way. Everging, like, 33 points a game.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Well, I was getting back to you, if you ever hear the numbers eight or 24. I used to love, or I think he's still there, but I used to love when an announcer at Laker Games at Staples Center, still Stapers Center to me. Kobe Bryant. Lawrence Tanner, he's a legend. Oh, that's what his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's been doing it my whole life.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Nice. So I want to... The Baker Girls. I got to talk about KG, because, KG is actually, I think, excellent in this movie. And he's really just being KG. And a lot of times when people say they're being themselves in a movie, they'll be like,
Starting point is 00:33:54 do we know why they picked KG for this role? I don't know the backstory. Does him and Adam have a personal relationship? Yeah. Because Adam's been known to pull in and kind of like give opportunities to his friends and family. I'm sure he knows a lot of NBA players because he loves basketball. And like he probably like just they had a... I bet you Adam's got the pull even back in 2019 where he could have,
Starting point is 00:34:15 He plays basketball all the time, right? He's a sportsman himself where he's like, hey, he probably has NBA guys at the radio. Yeah, he's got this idea for a movie. I'm working at 824, and I want you to play this role. I bet you he sent a text out to 10 guys. I bet you KG was the first to come back. No? You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:34:33 He's only leaving a chance like that. Who else does Adam know? He probably started with 10 guys, but then he decided himself who's the one he wanted to talk. All right, well, then how about... And then he started by, like, talking to one guy about it. And maybe KG wasn't on the top of his list. Who was on the 2012 New York Knicks that may or may not have. Jeremy Lynn, they talk about it.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He has that online. Well, Jeremy Lynn could not have been in this movie. Well, that was the thing. It was like, what, him and Carmelo Anthony? So I guess Carmelo could have worked. Carmelo could have worked. He probably wanted Carmelo, but maybe it didn't work because it. No, you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Actually, that 2012 team, no, KG is way better than you do those guys. Well, because we're talking about playoffs. So the Knicks were not in the playoffs. That's true. But I do love how he has that line as they're watching the games when they're like, Oh, what about Jeremy Lynn? He's like, you know why Jeremy Lynn's not going to be here next year? Because James Dolan saw it was making all of us happy.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We just kind of have a wed. Love this roster? I love it. Baron Davis is done. Star Fresh. Mello, Amari. What about Lynn? That's it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 We got to bring back Lynn. You know why fucking Lynn's not coming back next year? Because Dolan saw everybody was so fucking happy. He was like, how can I ruin all right now? Everybody talks about the Lynn Sanity run. I think that was in like, what, 2011 or something like that. So then, yeah, that's a great,
Starting point is 00:35:47 which gave New Yorkers the first thing to be excited about with the Knicks in years. You cannot be happy. Yeah, yeah. And James Dolan is arguably the worst owner in all the sports. So now that Donald Serling's out, yeah, he's up there. Oh, man. So. If I ever come back on this podcast, we'll leave that for another discussion.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You want to have a whole Donald Sterling conversation? I don't know if I'll give an episode for that. No. No. But no, KG. Is he still alive? I don't know Who cares?
Starting point is 00:36:17 KG, he's actually even being dialed back KG Because I don't have you ever seen any clips of his podcast But like every time I see, I get clips like pop up In my feet sometime of him on his podcast Dude is always yelling, dude is always cursing I actually got one of his clips in my feet the other day And I asked my friend Alex, I was like Hey, do you think KG barks his breakfast orders
Starting point is 00:36:39 Because he feels like the dude that's just always yelling Alright, I'm gonna get a pancake Let me get them scrambled eggs though I want one of them poached I mean he's got big mouth big Hats! Shut of cheese! Like I feel like he's constantly yelling Everything he does
Starting point is 00:36:55 In this movie he's actually a relative reserved Except for when It's because he's enamored by the op- Because by the rock Why is he so taken by this fucking rock He's like this rock is speaking to me Is it just me or was that rock not even that impressive? No you should have shit
Starting point is 00:37:10 The opal is covered in this sediment Like you only get like maybe 10% of it where you actually see what color it is. I actually had to look up was that an opal. They had kind of the coloring that I recognize. It just had like sparks of the opal. I'm not into burst stones, but I know mine, you know. I'm sure everybody knows their own birthstone. But an opal, they should have at least uncovered it more so.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Maybe they wanted to be more obsolete or more like secretive. I'll say this. If the whole rock was of that opal thing, I would be more, yeah, but I'd be more impressed by it. But with the little dots around it, the most. majority of that rock is just like basic as rock. Well, give me like at least 50 more, 50% more of. What are you even going to do that? You can't turn that into a chain.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You can't turn into earrings. You can't do anything with it. Like, what are you going to do? Well, I mean, for KG, you know, eventually he, almost right away, he discovers that that's got some sort of powers that allows him to. This rock is speaking a leash. You know what? You understand that?
Starting point is 00:38:03 You understand that? I'm talking about how all this shit speaking to him, you know? I'm going to destroy Philly tonight with this. But, you know what? The funny thing about that is, is, is. we made this a point that we want to talk about the old pool given KG powers and so he thought you know back in the early or mid 2000s again watching the game that he won in game seven is 8575 right and his over under and points and rebounds was 26 now if I got a 26 point rebound
Starting point is 00:38:30 point combination over under for anybody in today's NBA hitting the over I'm selling my car real quick especially I'm going to put it down on that bet and then buying my car back with some residuals easy bet to make except for the opening tip kg back then thought that his mediocre 18 and 12 game which was the cover on the bet but that's 30 points total that's 30 total right it was 26 he had to cover yeah or whatever it was at the end of it all he's not balling out by any means yeah i mean the opal didn't make him you know michael jordan or kareem ad du jubar or madgey johnson or coby brian or dare we say lebron James.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But then he has the off game when he doesn't have it. And it's just like these athletes do get in their head. I think they get very superstitious with shit. And they can have a thing where they think like this opals. It's the center of my powers right now. If this opal, the first time he touches it in his possession, made him go for 45, 10, and 10. A triple double. Hit a new career high.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah. Where, you know, he outscored the Sixers by the salt. Get a lob off the side of the backboard and shit. Then you have something, KG. But I think they forced this connection with KG where it's not sellable. I don't really believe it, but it creates this like opportunity for Adam to have this last out in this movie, you know? And this last out, I mean, if KG just says, hey, Howie, was the name again? Howie, it's Adam to me.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Howie, I'll give you $5 million for this Opel. You know, only in the end of this movie does Adam have an opportunity to win over a million bucks. It's ridiculous part of the other than he makes. Yeah, but he, okay, as much as KG makes, he's not going to, like, pay $5 million for this. We're discussing this early. We haven't looked up, actually. Let's check this out. What was KG's contract in 2012 with Boston Celtics?
Starting point is 00:40:25 It couldn't have been. Like, $5 million had to be a big chunk of it. $5 million is way too much for KG to, like, throw down on a rock that he just feels something for. As all I'm saying. I mean, I remember the contracts back then. I mean, hugely like, Fran over here. We had Timothy Moscau. Yeah, Timothy Mosca's contract.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It was a goddamn disaster. That was a weird year. Like, why were these numbers thrown up guys like this for? So KG to afford $5 million off his, let's see. You don't need to look it up. It's fine. One thing I do need to look up, though. Here's something I was thinking about during this whole movie.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So Kevin Garnett plays with Boston Celtics in 2012. Yeah. This whole thing takes place in New York. Right, yeah, yeah. Why is he in New York? So every game day in a jewelry shop? I actually did look this up before we started this. whole thing. It is a three and a half hour train ride, which is the quickest way from New York
Starting point is 00:41:16 to Boston. Yeah. Because it's three hours and 45 minutes by car. So we have a game seven. And KG is now dropping off $155,000 in cash to Adam's seven. In the afternoon. So what was the distance between the two? Okay. It was by train, three hours and 30 minutes. And that's my train. He's got a driver probably. The car is three hours and 45 minutes. So that's like a Vegas trip for us. They're just going to Vegas the morning of and then a game a game seven by the way. We forgot to mention that Adam Sandler sends Julia his mistress. Yeah, yeah. Over to what was that casino called? The Mohican. The Mohican son. The Mexican son. So he gets her a blade. I didn't know what a blade was. That's what he calls a helicopter. A co-worked helicopter. Rest and peace, Kobe.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And so we forget that KG. probably could travel, you know, in air. Maybe, but it seems like he's getting dropped off. I don't know. It's just like, this is a lot to be fucking around with, like, at the very first time he sees him. Yeah, first game seven. The very first time he sees him, Adam asking him. Does Doc know you're here?
Starting point is 00:42:25 And he's like, no, keep it that way. And it's like, yeah, well, good idea. Because like, why the fuck are you fucking around with the Diamond District in New York? The day of a game, you have to play against the fucking Sixers in the Eastern Conference finals. Did the social issues loose to the Lakers that year? 2012? No, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I feel like that was when. the heat that was when the heat and spurs were doing their thing i think they were oh no no that that was when the heat played the uh thunder so this was not eastern conference finals the series so i guess not yeah yeah it must or yeah i guess it was around before that if they're trying to be accurate because the Celtics definitely didn't make the finals sometimes aren't accurate i i'm baffled by how they love to be inaccurate the smallest details of a sports which things that actually happened they are off a little bit or overlooking stuff such as wisy in new york every morning of his games in Boston or Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:43:14 My favorite, and actually probably first sports blunder that I've ever seen as a pertain to a movie was the Scout. It had Brendan Frazier, right? He was a pitcher for the New York Yankees. So he gets up and he's playing into game for the first time at Yankee Stadium. And Bob on the night, two outs. He supposedly is pitching this gem, right? The announcer goes 27 up and 27 down.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, and he apparently struck out every one of them, right? Well, guess what? Nine times three is 20s. So the game should be over by then, right? Yeah. How do you, how do you... Wait, he was batting after that? Yeah, there was more batter after that.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So is it, you know... It could be zero, zero, I guess. It's a perfect game going, right? It could be zero, zero, I guess it's the end. Well, zero, but if it's a perfect game, as they proclaimed in the movie, 27 up, 27 down means the game's over. No, but that also means that maybe they haven't scored. The Yankees haven't scored.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So they would show up, but the Yankees not scored if he's actually up there pitching against whoever... I mean, he shouldn't be pitching and hitting it the same thing. The whole movie's ridiculous. The concept is absurd. The idea of striking out 27 people is itself absurd. Well, got them out at least. So sports have their blunders.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Sure, yeah. I want to get to the main event of the movie. The scene when he's watching the game that, like, he puts it all on, it reminds me of that moment that we had with the Houston Laker game in Vegas. The way he watches that game, like, I always think of that. I can't sit down. Locked in, two inches away from the screen, yelling at every single thing. Like, this is me when I have a big bet on the line.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And at no point, and am I more like locked in a sports, unless it's like, you know, the Dodgers in Game 7 of the World Series, then it comes close or something like that. But we got to talk about it's parlay bit. And Julia, a little bit. Because my question is, like, why is this girl so locked in to this guy whose life is falling apart, is currently married with a family, and this girl's clearly hot as fuck?
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's like, why are you to the point where you literally get his name tattooed on your ass? And I think there's girls out there like this, that kind of enjoy, like, the turmoil, enjoy the toxicity. That's a good word for it. At one point, he, like, literally throws a drink in her face, and it's just like, I think there are certain girls out there that are like that, that almost, like, get, like, a sick, weird pleasure out of that, you know what I mean? She's definitely one of them.
Starting point is 00:45:26 For all the wrong doings he's done her, every time he really fucks up is when she's the most passionate about it. Yeah, yeah. And she, like, is always, like, right there for, which goes back to the whole thing I was saying, like, UC tells him he's quitting. That's when he first gets the Yopold. That was the guy that was like, man, these guys rough me up and ripped my shirt. You're not even listening to me.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You're looking at this rock. And then, like, guess what? UC Stays are the whole rest of the movie. Dimani has all these reasons that he should be, like, pissed at him. He sticks with him the whole time. He even gets in a fight with him at the club that the weekend's performing at, which, by the way, this is 2012. The weekend, his first hit, like, I can't feel my face when I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That was in 2015. So this movie's trying to be like, oh, they were on the art. early weekend. This is the early weekend. This is the Friday noon special weekend that they were in on that shit early. He had some recognizable ability. It's probably the cheapest guy they can get it. He was around somewhere, I'm sure. And I like to think that whatever song he performs there was probably a song he had in 2012. Of course he was around at that point. But like there were three years earlier on the weekend train according to the movie, which is an easy thing to do when you make a movie in 2019. The weekend means it's Wednesday. But he puts in this bet. He
Starting point is 00:46:33 gets the money. And again, those goons, they're there to shake him down for like the eighth time in the movie. He again takes their money and slips it out over the window to be like, put this money in with this bet, wild parlay that, like we said, not even that crazy of a parlay because KG points and rebounds to get up to 26, not a bad bet. I'm going to stop Ryan real quick. It was the most ridiculous parley I've ever seen. You know why? Because he had the tip ball. Who? Okay, when you're in your most dire straits and up against the wall, you're going to put in the winter. The The opening tip. The opening tip. You may as well bet the coin flip of the Super Bowl in there.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Listen, listen, say it. Say the whole ticket out loud. I want you to say it really loud. Give me a second. I want some people to hear it, right? Hang on. Hang on. Say the whole ticket, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah. Yeah. Right. Just read the whole ticket. Read the whole ticket. You're having a good time? Yes. One million two hundred and twenty-nine.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Did you fucking hear that number? That's enough. You don't have to say anymore. The bet's in. The bet's in, okay? There is no chance in hell I am betting on an opening tip in a bet like that. For one thing, the bet's over as soon as it starts. The funds over immediately as soon as you lose that tip.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And that guy ends up killing you an hour earlier. Because that guy's for sure going to kill you at that point. Here's this. I mean, there's only one scenario where you should just play just the tip. And we all know what that is. Okay, if you singularly put it one bet, that's fine. But do not include this in this life-changing parlay. No way, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:23 It's such a chance. All right, so let's, let's, okay, we have actual real footage that we're going off of in this movie where it's game seven, Philly, Boston. We forget what series it is. We'll say the second round. We'll say second round now, right? Imagine in real life Philly actually wins this tip. They're about to make this movie. Do you think Adam Sandler has the goal?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Everything else is Boston heavy. It's 26. KG heavy. 26, you know, points of rebounds combined. It's Boston winning money line. Do you think that Adam in this movie can convince us that he actually thought Philly was going to win the tip first and then he's going to parley the rest of that? I think not.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You got to go heavy. You got to triple down on the team that you think is going to do everything that you think is going to do. Yeah. So he's lucky that Boston won the tip in the real life. Well, it's easy to write it when you had the benefit in hindsight when you know that KG won that tip. Like, there's no way I would make that part of my life-changing parlay.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Like, there's an absolutely, that's the stupidest thing of our- I would never throw in the tip. Yeah. But again, this scene is so incredible because it's, especially for those of us that have, like, you know, had money on, like, games and, like, ones that, like, really mattered. Was it clean? Oh, yeah, yeah, he knocked it out, like, right, yeah. KG was pumped up?
Starting point is 00:49:37 He had the stone. Was it KG versus who? He says a line earlier in the movie of, doesn't it make you want to step on Elton Brand's neck when Elton Brand's neck? Because that's another scene. That's KG all day. That's another scene I like when he's getting him pumped up when he finally gets the rock from him. That tip is like that tip is 8020.
Starting point is 00:49:54 If it's against out to bread, it's 8020, but you got to make sure you get it clean to your player. You never know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, they don't really care about the tip. It's like a box out after that. I love that scene when he's getting KG pumped up before the game, when he finally pays him for the rock and he's sitting there. And he's like, let's look at your odds. Are you telling me?
Starting point is 00:50:12 They got the Sixers' favor. They don't think you can get 18. They don't know you? They don't know us. You want to win by one point of fucking 30 points KG Right? I see out there when the fucking stadium's all booing you. You're 30 up. You're still going full tilt Let's see what Vegas. What is Vegas got you guys at tonight? Take a look. Let's see Are you serious? You gonna pull this up right here? Look at this shit. The six is supposed to win the game tonight, they think? Don't keep tracking on that shit. They think on game seven you're not gonna get fucking 18 points. They don't I don't think you're gonna get eight rebounds.
Starting point is 00:50:47 These guys don't know shit about that. What the fuck are they do? Doesn't I make you want to fucking kill them? Doesn't that make you want to say fuck you for doubting me? Doesn't I make you want to step on fucking Elton Brand's fucking neck? Come on, KG, this is no different than that. This is me. All right, I'm not a fucking athlete.
Starting point is 00:51:05 This is my fucking way. This is how I win. All right? All the fucking hard work I do, all the fucking ass kicking and the dues I pay, you're not going to score. on the big one on game seven, fuck these people, right? That's how you feel, I know you do. So look, let's fucking bet on this. Let's bet on this shit.
Starting point is 00:51:29 That's one of my favorite scenes, but then followed by my favorite scene of the movie when he's watching that whole game play out while he's got the guys locked in, his little entrance place, the high stakes that feel of that. There are so many scenes in this movie. You got to do an amazing job of just giving you that anxiety of being like, there's so much writing on this right here. Like there's that auction scene. They go to his kids play and then they end up like chasing him down.
Starting point is 00:51:56 There's so many different scenes where you're like suddenly like feeling this anxiety and you're like, oh my God, dude, how he's going to get himself out of this one? And he never writes the ship. I mean, every turn. But he's able to avoid the crash just enough. And what's crazy is he actually does finally write it by hitting the most ridiculous bet. And then that dude is such a hot head. who's been on his ass the entire movie
Starting point is 00:52:19 is just like, I don't care, I'm fucking shooting you anyways. Okay, so if Adam Sandler does not lock them in this little corridor between the, you know, bulletproof screen or glass door and actually exiting the pawn shop or jewelry shop he's got, it actually just watches the game with the fellas. I don't think you could trust that guy. That guy was a maniac. That guy already elbowed him in the throat like nine times.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Back to hindsight, right? I mean, it's like what the other option, is just, hey, can I order us some pizza? Let's just watch this game. I got $1.2 million possibly brand this game. If I win, you guys are taken care of. I'm taking care of, and let's just move on from there. We'll never do with each other again.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I understand his thinking with it because, first of all, he knows that they now know where Julia is going, so he's trying to protect Julia and his bet. All he needs is, like, 15 minutes from that. She's got a chopper. Yeah, that's got a blade. She's got to blade. She's getting there a lot quicker than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:53:13 But they still, that one goon still gets there. He's going to take those guys an hour and a half to get to that casino. And that's actually what makes her, like, take cover in that cartoon character fucking helicopter guys. Okay, so do we actually... Which is such a guy that you will find in Vegas. Oh, yeah. The guy is like, oh, I can't get you out of my mind. Why don't you come up in my room?
Starting point is 00:53:33 I got a chef coming. But that man... The irrational confidence of those types. A game of numbers for a guy like that. Yeah. I want you from the helicopter to hear. How you doing, baby? I can't get that in my mind.
Starting point is 00:53:45 You're funny. You're hot, baby. You're definitely hot. Listen, what are you? You're everybody on a Celtics? Is he going to shoot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, that one's going to help.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Oh, come on, man. Oh, my God, he should have fucking cook in that, right? Who cares? So, I have a great idea after half the half time, okay? What's up? I'd like you to come up to my room. I hired the chef. I'm in Pettaisee, and I got you.
Starting point is 00:54:06 It's gorgeous. Best views. Man, we'll get asked for more than that. Thank you. I love it, baby. I'll see you there. Okay. Pettauze, the penny room.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Got it. The Irrational. confidence of thinking that he could like just land julia just be like by just being like yeah you want you come on up here i love i love with guys like that uh given their age yeah of course they're you know rich is all heck but as long as they got tan and some white teeth then they think they're they're good at and everything yeah i always feel really bad for girls that actually liked watching sports like i think like it's highlighted that moment when like she's locked into the game all day long and this guy like comes in he's like oh what are you watching the celtics oh yeah
Starting point is 00:54:46 They're winning. That's good. Yeah. So why don't me and you get a drink? Like, just constantly like, can't let them focus on the game. Like, it's hard out there for hot girls sports fans sometimes. You know what I mean? I think this fucking movie. Just let me take notes to figure this game out. She's like, my whole life is on the line. Plus this guy's. I mean, the thing that's wild about that bet for him, especially once he locks them in is he's got to know, like, my life is on the line with this. If I lose this bet, these guys are shooting me for sure. So he knows that. So this is literally a life or death. bet right here. See, my personality would have had them watching with me in the most comfortable setting I can make them have. No, you can't trust that guy though. And they wanted to get out so they could chase her down and then who knows what, like probably steal the money from her and killer.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I'm about to win 1.2, but I owe you 300 grand. I'll give you five. Plus 200,000 bucks, right? And what's wild is he hits the bet and it doesn't matter anyways because this fucking hot head ends up killing him the second he gets out there. And the shot
Starting point is 00:55:46 of that moment, it's one of those rare movie moments where they don't amplify it with the effects, the sound, they just start playing that gentle music, the same like cosmic music they've been playing out. And it just happens. It doesn't, they don't slow it down. He just hits him one shot and he starts, like, robbing everything in the store and everything. And he just starts going forward with it. And you're taking back by it being like, what are you doing? Now you can't cash that bet in. Your hot-headed asshole mentality just ruin this opportunity to cash out. Because you just kill the guy who has the winning ticket. How are you going to get that money now? And they don't slow it down. They don't have any extra added stings or nothing or like different
Starting point is 00:56:27 change in music. There's two other scenes I can think of that do a dramatic death scene like that. There was the departed when Leo gets shot out of the elevator. I can't remember that one. Yeah, yeah. Just he gets like shot out of the elevator and it's just like, what the fuck? And then there was that movie about Osama bin Laden where uh what was a zero dark 30 oh yeah where they do that scene and that one i think was like done real well too because it was like that is what it would feel like it wouldn't be this dramatic like oh my god there he is just like suddenly he pops over like that it just happened so quick and it's just like they don't change the sounds or nothing so there's an effectiveness doing it that way it has but i do think maybe this one they could have added a little something to it because it happens
Starting point is 00:57:10 so shockingly and you're just like, what did you do? What'd you do? Like, you fucked up everything. Now everybody loses. Alternate endings, I don't care for those much. I don't put those on. I watch my movie and that's it. However it ends, it ends for me.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But I think the alternate ending for me would have been Adam Seller, having these guys sit there with them in the confines of his jewelry shop. Well, yeah, that's less fun though. That's less exciting. If they were all, all of a sudden, I'd be like, are they all friends now? Like, what's the deal? Like, you know what I mean? And guess what?
Starting point is 00:57:42 Here's the question. Did those guys make out more in what they stole from Adam from what he owed them? I think now they're definitely going to get arrested because they definitely got cameras and shit on that place. Like, there's no way. That's true. And they all know who those guys are. Those guys have been hassed in that place for a while. So those guys got to run to fucking Mexico.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They got to have a fucking whole plan after this. I bet you they destroy those cameras, though. I would. Whatever. I absolutely would. Anybody that's been associated with that. Julia's got to know who those guys are. Which, by the way, who's the one person.
Starting point is 00:58:09 person that fucking wins and all this. Julia. Julia ends up with all the money. Julia Gulia. Julie ends up with all the money. Remember that wedding singers? Yes, I do. Julia wins in the end.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I don't like the non-finality of these movies sometimes. We're just, just finish me off. I want to see what finalize everything for me. I'm actually okay with it because this movie had dark undertones and a movie about these kind of subjects almost needs to have like a dark ending. and even then you feel like it's not going to. It's hard to take in the moment, like when you first see it, like, no, he finally did it and they fucking shot him.
Starting point is 00:58:46 They didn't give us enough of that. Oh, he finally did it. It was bang, bang. Yeah. That was it. I know. That's what I mean. Like, it happened so quickly and, like, so sudden.
Starting point is 00:58:54 The dark tenure of the movie and, like, the tone of, like, what the movie's about, like, this is how these movies end. The same thing about movies, like, a drug dealer who has, like, a whole, like, huge large spin at it like scarface or something like all those movies always end with them in the dirt and it's just kind of like the way that how he lived you knew this is how it was going to go down like he has too many guys trying to chase him down he has too many people that he owes money to he's got his hands in too many pots he's trying to do too many things with his charm but not actually with his money and this was bound to happen so it actually i think is a fitting end as
Starting point is 00:59:36 dark, sudden, and heart-wrenching as it is to see it play out that way. The only thing I hate is that Julia ends up with the big, big in the end. And it almost is like you need a girl that's like as just stupidly devoted like that to like make the bet in the first place. A lot of girls like with like a smart sense would just be like, wait, you want me to run to the casino and put 165 grand on this three-way parlay? She went for somebody who I thought was, you know, a red flag and somebody you'd want to You know, having a stuck with a weekend. But the way she made that bet happen,
Starting point is 01:00:10 you know, even though it didn't turn out for Adam's favor, you know what? I got, I got to give her. I got to give it up to her on that way. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 01:00:17 she really turned me around my opinion about her and she made it happen. So I wanted to know what she did with the money. Start a whole new life wherever the fuck she wants, man. I sure hope she did.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, she's a millionaire now. Run away from this city. So here's a thing, though, when she puts the bet in, obviously she's got to sign for it and all. So she got taxed on that, not Adam. Imagine if she put it under Adam's name.
Starting point is 01:00:37 What if it was under Adam's name? I think it was. Oh, no, no, wait. But you get taxed for putting a bet down like that? I mean, yeah. You don't just get it to run away with the money. Of course, you can never just get the money. There's always somebody up in the corporation of the government that has to get a little cut.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Because they had something to do with their KG bet, right? Let me go ahead and do a segment that I like to call. Let's clean off the note sheet. This is where I like to look at the notes that I have and just see what final notes. I have that I might have missed throughout. That's true. So the moment when he's watching the first big game that he put a bed on, and then he goes to, like, put his son to sleep and it comes back,
Starting point is 01:01:15 and his wife's got some stupid fucking housewife show on. Yeah, I love that scene. While his son's sleeping, he's like, fuck you. Then when he gets back there, and then his wife's changed a channel to some fucking bullshit reality housewives shit. I was like, first of all, this is relatable. You got a game on and then like you leave the room and then your girl takes over the remote or something And they always want to put on this stupid fucking reality housewife shit and if you had money on the game that he did
Starting point is 01:01:46 Just gotta be like get it just can we get it back on another And Deena Manzel she has such a good like I'm frustrated face But within this case it's just like yeah this guy your face is absolutely right to be as frustrated as possible with the way this guy's deal with you And then she throws the remote at him like fucking watch your stupid game. When in reality, he was very successful in his life. Just be his business. He could just be watching the shows with her and led a good life.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Maybe. I mean, if he didn't bring the betting into it, it's hard to say. He did a great house, a couple cars, handsome kids. Two places. Two places. Yeah. And then I just wanted to call out the appraisal game is bullshit. The whole appraisal game where they're like this thing is where,
Starting point is 01:02:32 because there's that scene when then he goes to like the auction. and he thinks his rock might be worth close to a million and then they appraised it as like what like 150 to like 250 and he's just like are you fucking kidding me and it's like this is why I don't trust any of this jewelry art any of this it's like something is worth as much as some random guy who had like a fucking thing who was like looking at it like oh yeah you know what that's worth that
Starting point is 01:02:57 like that's the guy who decides how much something is worth you know BV's in the eye of the beholder which is also the appraiser. So what makes these people, the professionalist, to say, hey, my hard-fought opal... I spent 100 grand to get people from my Ethiopian. I'll get that to me. These random people like that, we just decide
Starting point is 01:03:18 are the deciders of, like, the worth and be like... I mean, Mona Lisa is not that good-looking. She's not that pretty. I think that one's more about the story of how they got the one. I don't know. It doesn't matter. What makes...
Starting point is 01:03:29 To me, I would never put that painting up in my house. Even if it was the original, if it was a virgin, maybe I would. I don't think you would. You know, like Banksy. Banksy's another guy. Like, his story, you know, adds to his value of his artwork.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And what are diamonds? I mean, diamonds is just like gold and silver. You know, it's just, it's a commodity. And somebody put a price point on it, you know? Who the fuck are you to say that? Oh, what? Because you studied gem school?
Starting point is 01:03:57 I'm just saying, it feels like a racket where, like, you could just call yourself a professional and determine, You can tell me this, like, fake gem is worth, like, one million, and because you said it, now it is. Like, I don't know. I don't buy into the whole racket.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I think you're all full of shit. And guys like Adam over here, howie. He's sounded like Adam Sandler. He's got to pay the price because this is his business that he's been put all this into. He got these Ethiopian warriors shipping that shit over. And now he's got to get $150K when he thought he had a million. Fuck you, Doc! I love the part when he calls out Doc Rivers.
Starting point is 01:04:31 He's like, fuck you, Doc, that was your fault. And another, and another. And shoot, shoot, shoot. Fucking shit, fucking Doc. Fucking threw his rhythm off. He took them out of the game. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Which, okay, this is my last note. Hey, Doc Rivers is the only guy to lose a 3-0 series twice. Fuck. Sorry, Doc, I'm calling you out. Here's my last note. During that last game, he points at some fat guy that's sitting next to the bench because he's, like, talking shit to the guy. I feel the fucking meat.
Starting point is 01:05:02 guy that like ends up shooting him. He's like, is this one of your guys over here? You fed motherfucker? And I just saw that and I was just like, yo, this is a real game. That was an actual fan who is sitting courtside who had to have watched this movie because he was clearly like a Celtics fan. I want to watch this movie. It's about KG. I love the Celtics. And then he ends up watching that and he's just like, what are my catching strays, dude? That's your fault. You see that other guy? No, Phil. One of your boys from Boston? You got some boys in Boston?
Starting point is 01:05:36 You'll see a long dog, hang on. This fucker, is that one of your boys? That fat fuck? Looks like you. Looks like one of your boys. That was the best seats I ever had in my life. I ended up in a movie and Adam Sandler's calling you fat? What the fuck? That was an advent.
Starting point is 01:05:52 You thought the toughest shot was at Adam Sandler's head. No, it was this random fat guy that took a stray. Sitting courtside. All right. I think we've circled this open. enough. That's the uncut gem from dissect DJ's perspective. We dissected it. Austin, thank you so much for joining for the very first time. That's a Jonesy. Hey, thanks for having me. I know this guy has been put on work for many years. I've always
Starting point is 01:06:16 respected his podcast with Justin, with, you know, Juan, with Greg, you know, anybody else has been on the show. Thanks for supporting this guy. And fucking A man, check us out next time we put a video out there. Let us know which movie you want Austin to jump on next. Because that's the hardest part picking a fucking movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of good movies are cut up. If you've got any suggestions, man, I'm down.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Sometimes you've got to cut them up. Sometimes you've got to leave them uncut. But for now... Uncut gems. That's right. For this gem of this episode... Nick, Nick!

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