Distractible - Criminally Subliminal
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Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractible,
a Wood Elf production with your hosts, Bewildered Bob, Wakeful Wade, and Mesmerizing Mark.
This week, the elite of engagement enunciate over the exacting inflates of ads and enchantment
surreptitiously scattered about our media.
Yes, it's time for Criminally Subliminal.
Please prepare thy pause button and enjoy the show.
Hey everybody, welcome back to Distractible.
I'm your host today, Wade Barnes, your winner, your champion.
What a legitimate win it was. That's
real good. A win to remember. You earned it, man. A win to never forget. From one of the
best episodes we've ever done. Thank you, Bob. The golden episode that that was. Fine,
I'm going to redeem myself today. It's fine. This is fine. Okay. We'll find out. How are you guys doing?
Pretty good.
Busy morning.
Very productive, efficient.
Pretty happy with how today went.
I'm good too.
I sat on the couch until this and I scrolled on TikTok and also productive, very productive
morning.
And now I'm ready for this, you know, prepared.
Excellent.
All right. I talked about this a few weeks ago,
but I'm going to mention it again now.
After...
Oh, never mind, cut this out,
because I'm completely wrong about what the hell I'm talking about.
That might be a distractible record for fastest turnaround.
Listen, I've had a lot of water today.
I'm swinging off the chandeliers.
I'm a little in watercaded. Yeah, no, things are good. Oh, I've had a lot of water today. I'm swinging off the chandeliers. I'm a little in watercaded.
Yeah, no, things are good.
Oh, I do have news to interrupt your goodness.
Oh, go ahead.
I have news.
More distractible animators are on the way.
If you are listening to this and you enjoy animations of our podcast here, they will be coming out shortly.
our podcast here they will be coming out shortly if you did not know there's one already that's on my channel and we have a distractible youtube channel where you will find these lovely animations
in the future youtube.com distractible podcast yes i think i'm yeah that's it i know that i know
that one okay okay we have merch too and uh we've got new merch hopefully rolling in it's been rolled
in so on and so forth so you guys should check the merch store daily man we are plugging a lot right off the bat people are tuning out oh well never mind don't check the
merch don't do any of that i lied don't check it forget about it listen to us just listen to this
episode just do the episode yeah do all right all right uh let me check my notes today's episode
definitely a real banger for our average listener uh uh advertising oh yeah you guys you know it you love it you want more of it
today's episode is sponsored by us we are advertising ourselves uh what a fitting plug
i do not get enough ads in my everyday life give me more well that's the point right like we
advertise ourselves our own stuff we have our own set of sponsors we do our
own brand deals and collaborations and things and uh we also have to consume a lot of other
advertising and advertising is kind of like the silent killer why is it the silent killer what's
what's it doing to me what's it doing yeah that's right come on an 11 o'clock news anchor tell me
how advertising's killing my family well you gotta tune in at 11 o'clock to find out.
This was just a tease.
I thought I was watching the news.
This is just a commercial?
Oh, wow.
Oh, this has just been an ad the whole time.
This is just advertising.
God damn it.
Man, we're getting got in so many ways, we don't even understand it.
What a nefarious adversary.
I know.
Three points to both of you for getting got so hey that's not so
bad yeah that feels good it's like a reward system for ads you know you you listen to an ad you get
points i guess the topic of advertising by itself is kind of like just open and you know you can
kind of talk about whatever part of it you want but the fact of the matter is we live with a lot
of advertising all over the place all the time some of it's effective some
of it just annoys us some of it we just tune out but like it or not ads are here to stay and i
guess we're gonna talk about our opinions on it or memorable ads or ads we wish we didn't remember
so on and so forth so um i don't know what part of advertising do you guys want to approach i have
a story i'd like to talk about all right by all means um this is not my own story this is a thing
from the world
i guess so i don't really have a fancy title for it or anything but did you guys see this i don't
know how much you're on tiktok i scroll tiktok a fair amount most of it's garbage but i scroll
until i see a dog or something i'm interested in but i found this thing on tiktok uh a guy who
has an account his name is kyle sheely or sheel something like that i posted a thing which was just like
he's like kind of a comedy variety type content creator and he posted a video where he was like
i've got this idea i think if i make a cardboard cutout of myself you know like a stand-up cutout
of me with like a slogan on it that's just like the kyle sheely meal or whatever like get that
made and put it in this gas station sure um
no one will notice i'll walk in and i'll talk to the person and be like hey i just sent up this
thing from corporate or whatever and no one will question it let me see how long i can put it in
there and it was posted with uh as just like his idea for a joke right so he he does this he goes
into it's a come and go gas station best gas station name by the way come and
go k-u-m and go uh amazing name and then he puts it in there and he gets like it's the whole thing
he gets back in the car and he's like it's in there nobody said and it's it's it blows up people
are like that's really funny dude which sure that's a funny idea i watched it and i was like
that is funny i wonder how long it'll stay there and he did a bunch of follow-ups and eventually the account of the gas station the come and go account was like hey we
saw what you did uh we're gonna have to take that out of the store but what if we did like a
promotion or something what if we made the kyle sheely meal right and he was like this is crazy
this goes so cool we're gonna do a collab with come and go gas
stations and in like three days it went from this dude's doing a prank to come and go rolling out
the official kyle sheely meal i don't know the exact timeline but it's super fast and i remember
when i saw the announcement i was like how do they move that fast like nothing corporate ever
happens that fast it would be like a month between them being like hey maybe we should work
with this guy who made a viral video to like get things approved printed get stuff out to all of
your franchises because it's a you know it's like a nationwide thing anyway this all happens they
roll out the kyle sheely meal and at some point like a couple weeks after this has all gone down
nothing is tagged as an ad or as a collab until they start announcing this stuff finally someone
is like hey wait a minute.
This whole thing was conceived from the beginning.
They were working together the whole time.
Apparently, this was a plant.
Come and go.
And this dude schemed this whole thing up and, you know, did the whole thing to get
it to go viral, then to act like they were just coming to this, you know, grassroots
dude.
Aside from the issue of, I can't believe he posted all of this stuff, which they were
clearly paying him or compensating him in some way for setting up this quote unquote
prank and stuff.
Aside from that, I was like, you know what?
Fucking smart ad.
Like you drew a bunch of people in.
I feel a little slighted.
Like I don't have a gas station near me anyway.
I might've gone and got the meal just for fun. it was kind of a meme yeah for a minute but you
know like funny ad like at least you're doing something interesting everyone else on the
internet other than me got fucking pissed they were like this is fraud this is what's bad and
wrong with advertising in this modern day and age how do you guys react to that are you guys mad
about that should i guys mad about that?
Should I be mad about that? Am I a capitalist like bootlicker for just being like,
funny ad, it's okay. I mean, it's a question of like disclosure. That's what it comes down to.
People don't like to feel like they've been tricked, right? That's why there are disclosure requirements. So people don't unknowingly be sold something that they aren't really aware of.
I don't know the legalities of it, but I can kind of understand how people would be like,
yeah, go.
They're cheering for the underdog.
And yet he was a corporate shill the entire time.
And he pulled one over on everybody.
What's the phrase?
Pull one over.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Pull one over.
Pull one over on someone
to pull one over on pulled one over on me pulled pull he pulled me over pulled
i don't want a definition i want the origin yeah origin pull pull over put put one over on put one over on someone put someone over
a barrel pull where did it come from what the hell is it pull one over originally or the pull
a fast one or is it even something different than that yeah what is that it's those seem related but
i don't know if they're the same or different pull one over pull one over pull because i can
totally understand pull a fast one right it's
like implying things about like sleight of hand it's tricky because you're slick uh tricky slicky
but what the hell is pulling over on that i mean i don't know pull the wool over your eyes which is
also weird what the hell pull the wool that's gotta be like a literal thing okay medieval fairs
were places of wonder and dastardly deeds where
robbers were always on the lookout for victims their favorite technique was to pull the victim's
hood over their eyes while cutting the purse strings hence the expressions hoodwinked oh
and to pull the wool over one's eyes that makes me like hoodwinked so much more then they would have pulled one over on
them and pulled a fast one it all makes sense oh i thought it had to do with sheep pull the wool
over one's eyes but i guess that doesn't make any sense you're pulling the sheep's own wool
over its eyes so it doesn't know you're about to kill it or shave it or something
this was a great non-planned tangent today's sponsor is wool hoodies
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arms around it and it's like hey what and you're like it's okay it's okay pull the wool down over
the eyes like this there's only a little bit it It's going to be fine. You start cheering the sheep.
Whoa.
Why are you robbing slash mugging the sheep for their wool?
What's happening?
Hey, listen.
I don't like this.
I don't like this.
I'm stepping out of it.
We all learned something today.
But it's back to advertising.
I do understand how people, because they do like cheering for the underdog.
And yes, it's both like an act of rebellion that turns out as a win for the person you were cheering for.
And then to discover that they were not true from the beginning.
I can see being mad about that.
Yeah, I see nothing wrong with like what they did as far as like working together, doing
the whole thing.
But the fact that they didn't properly disclose it and it was played off as being a legitimate prank that does feel wrong that part rubs me the wrong
way the what they did doesn't bother me like if that was something they presented like on a tv
commercial and they showed like the different steps of it or whatever i'd be like actually
that's pretty funny all right well done well done yeah but if i uploaded videos where i was like
guys i've been stealing milkshakes from this company for months and then come to find out like you know i go in there i sneak a milkshake i run out the door
whatever like oh i can't believe you did it again and come to find out i was working with them and
it was a paid thing anyway like that would feel totally wrong yeah it all boils down to like
entertainment value right that's what a lot of advertisements try to strive for they try to be
entertaining because that's memorable and people want to be entertained and so having that outcome from the initial entertainment of like oh yeah you're
really sticking it to them where'd that phrase come from oh god what are we doing no no no no
no but like and then it to them sticking it to them i'm thinking of the scary movie scene you
know the sex scene from scary movie one. He really stuck her to the ceiling
Do you remember is that the words I do? Yeah, that was I can't think of a jizz pun
I watched that movie way too young. I should not
Watch that movie. I think I wanted like when it first came out. When did that come out a scary movie?
I actually looked up while you're looking that up
I looked up clips from that the other day because I wanted to see the scene where he throws the piano down the stairs and it hits the grandma
on the face he's like hi baby the the scene from scary movie three where the sheriff's hat keeps
getting bigger that i think of that daily like i legitimately love that joke anyway sorry what
were you talking about um the the common go ever oh stick it to them stick it to them no before
that okay advertising the come and go it sours it sours the entertainment value that they had so whatever joy they had suddenly becomes like what what the
oh man they feel bad about themselves they feel bad that they were fooled you know so they have
to have like this outlet and i understand that i guess for me maybe this is just my overly cynical
side coming out in a weird way but like i guess i don't watch anything without somewhere in the back of my
mind considering that like well this is some kind of ad i'm not gonna say that nobody has artistic
intention and nobody makes things purely because they have a vision or they they want to elicit
something in other people or whatever motivation for art but like when i'm consuming media if i'm
on tiktok i'm very skeptical anything i watch i'm like this is
basically an ad even if it's someone just doing something for their own purposes their own account
they're advertising their own stuff yeah like they're doing tiktok because it's their job or
they're doing tiktok because they're a musician or they're in a band or they have an etsy shop
or whatever like and like i don't hold that against anyone but i guess even watching that i
was like well this is blown up like before it happened i had the thought like this is blown up they're definitely
gonna meme on this like come and go is at the very least gonna make tiktoks or tweets or something
about this they might work together uh who knows he'll be in a commercial i don't know but like
i guess i just i just see that everywhere so it doesn't bother me but that is a problem yeah
they're they're actually it's interesting because this reminds me of a subreddit that is dedicated to quote-unquote calling out i believe it's specifically asian videos that are
set up as if it was like cctv footage or like incognito filmed as if it was just like a normal
situation but it's like it's a comedy sketch and like something funny happens but people get
irrationally upset because they're like no no no this is staged it's
staged they they set all this up and they the joke is you know pre-planned it was pre-planned and i'm
like yeah have you ever heard of a sketch i mean have you ever heard of like writers have you ever
heard of like any kind of comedy based show where they pre-plan their jokes does that make it less funny and i get
like there are some videos that are intentionally shot to look like it was supposed to be just a
random occurrence in real life and you know like whatever they're trying to get out of it i don't
know but at the same time it's like what you said bob like i look at everything on the internet with
this idea that like this could be fake but is it entertaining is it worth me watching that should be like the core experience behind it yeah even videos of some completely real video
like a completely real someone security guard found a cctv video of a hilarious thing where
someone falls on an ice in a funny way yeah even if that's pure just life happening and someone
captured it the thing that i experienced from that is not based on whether or not it's real.
It's how I relate to it.
The entire point of scripted shows, scripted comedy,
is that it elicits some sort of connection or reaction in you.
So this makes me feel like I'm just a desensitized sociopath or something.
But I really don't care if stuff is fake.
I assume things are fake.
If it's online, it's probably fake. Yeah know you know how hard it is to get footage from
like a security camera system in the place where you work where the security cameras guard you know
the important valuable assets of the company and you if you went to your boss and you were like
greg i got this clip on the security system of the garbage man slipping on
the ice and falling headfirst into the trash can. It's so funny. Can I please like clip that and
download it or like record it with my phone? He'll be like, no, that's not what you're supposed to.
You're supposed to be patrolling. What are you doing? That's not a thing that happens in real
life. No bosses could be like, oh my God. Yeah. Put that on Reddit. Shit. Yeah. That's going to
be such good publicity for our back alley sidewalk with no like no one that doesn't happen i assume it's fake yeah but anyway
i i still all of this conversation like this is pretty real how i feel but it does make me
question like oh no am i part of the system
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the nationwide life comes at you fast commercials i loved those things when those first started
coming out which ones though yeah they would play like the tune the and like they would always like
show something like there was one where like someone was like driving their car through the woods or something like a tree falls
on them like out of nowhere or i think during like the super bowl they had like fabio uh on a boat
like paddling through a river they're like the new fabio shampoo and he passes under a bridge and he
comes out and he's like really old and no longer like the sexy man stud they're like life comes at
you fast by switching to nationwide do you remember those commercials at all because those live rent free in my head all
the time i vaguely remember those i didn't attach to those but i do really like the uh the mayhem
commercials yeah same idea the yeah mayhem like me i love that dude yeah it's the same idea it's
just like chaos and a commercial it's actually kind of funny that guy get in a car accident recently i don't know he's in the he's in like one or a couple of the john wick
movies i think yeah dean winters it was really off-putting to see him could have sworn yeah
whoa okay this is actually serious dean winters living in pain after multiple amputations oh my
god that's not that's not light-hearted at all
that sucks two toes and half a thumb amputated due to a bacterial infection oh shit that sucks
almost died that was back in 2009 oh it's toes and a thumb oh that's wasn't that even before
these started coming out yeah that's what this says this is back it hasn't taken a step since
i'm not being in pain oh this this isn't recent oh okay all right because i was really struggling not to say
life comes at you fast when i read that title jeez mark and i was like ah that wouldn't be
that wouldn't be cool to make a joke about this but ah he's fine now so we can make jokes right
he's he's good yeah he's good that's uh crazy yeah but also happened in 2009 weird yeah i had never heard
that story really weird no you know what ad uh sticks in my mind is the nutrigrain commercial
the what from it's you probably wouldn't like remember it if i just say nutrigrain or no it
wasn't nutrigrain it was see the commercial didn't work because i don't remember the name of the the thing uh what's that like the green little oat bar what is that called nature
made nature made was that it feels good our nature no yeah wait what is that no no no was it nutrigrain
it might have been uh i feel yeah it was nutrigrain it was nutrigrain i feel great it's it's the one
where this guy i'll post it in the Discord,
but he basically takes a bite of a Nutri-Grain bar and he constantly goes,
Oh, I feel great.
Come on, hit me.
I want to make some babies.
You know, like that.
Oh my God, it looks like it was shot on a camcorder.
It's old. Like it's an old commercial.
I see it on YouTube back in 06.
So it's at least 15 or so years old, at least.
Yeah, it came out in 03.
I remember that.
Okay.
And I have gone back to watch that commercial.
Just ran.
You're a great guy with great instincts.
You're going to do great.
What the hell?
It's like, it's so fast paced.
It's so insane.
And clearly Nutri-Grain would never have this effect on a human being at all it's just
basically jam wrapped in really weird grain stuff it's like a fake Newton exactly yeah and I've
eaten Nutri-Grain bars they are food and you know what wait though can I say I remember a lot of
occasions being over at your place
and we're like, oh, we're going to like, let's have a lunch or whatever.
Let's have some food.
You always have Nutri-Grain bars.
I do.
In your pantry.
Am I going crazy?
I feel like I have specific memories of you always having Nutri-Grain bars around for
like a lot of instances.
You might be right.
And this may be a case where the commercial works better than I thought it did the most effective advertisement in the history of mankind you
watched this when you were a kid in the 90s and the entire rest of your life you've been like oh
gotta grab the nutrigrain god i fucking hate those yeah why do i buy those yeah why do i buy those i
don't really like i don't know i have to buy them though i have to buy them i've got i've got an
example of a good commercial that like sticks in my head that like oh man i have
nostalgia for that toy and that stuff and they've got like do you guys remember the i think they
still run it the i had to look up which car company it was because again it didn't really
work on me it was the gmc commercial that came out in like uh christmas time like i think 2018
ish where this uh couple that is way wealthier than like 90 or 99 of humanity have this like modernistic mansion
and it starts off with like the the lady being like oh hey i got us something and uh one for you
one for me and it's like watches are red and a black watch and then he's like oh i also got us
something and they step outside and there's two brand new like gmc suvs a red one and a black one
and she's like i love it and she runs to the black one he's like
oh no wait that one's for i love it uh i love it and he's like i like red and it did not make me
want to buy a gmc nor feel like i ever could buy a gmc because if you have to own that kind of
mansion to afford it but i always think of that commercial it's it stuck with me despite the fact
it i have no interest in the product the commercial has stuck with me though Despite the fact I have no interest in the product, the commercial has stuck with me.
I like red.
That's because that's the point of commercials and advertising.
It's not necessarily to sell you something
or to like get money back for like if we convert enough sales.
It's just to get the name of the company into your head.
So that wouldn't even work because I had to look it up.
I had to look at what car it was.
They never say it at all. You know what's interesting about that what you're saying mark is like ostensibly
the point of commercials i just realized you know who really stands to benefit from a commercial
being incredibly memorable and like burning into your memory what it's if it's the fucking companies
that make the commercials they don't give a shit about if they want to have enough info where they
can be like look you paid us 20 million dollars look at all this hype look we will be made a viral commercial
people are protesting you know whatever people are all over this but no one remembers that it's
a gmt commercial but then when that company is like to the next big company they're like look
at this look at this viral ad we made it was amazing that only benefits them that doesn't
benefit the company you couldn't even
remember if it was nutrigrain or not yeah a commercial from two decades three decades two
decades two and a half decades you remember the commercial vividly had nothing to do with the
product yeah i wonder i mean i don't wonder i assert commercial companies advertising firms
they're all out for themselves i mean it's a conspiracy you might be absolutely right but but i would corporations are getting scammed i would counter that because you just
said that i have a lot of nutrigrain bars in my history okay well maybe it's subconscious then i
don't know about that i think it's like a subconscious thing food commercials hit differently
though because if i see food that i want i'm like all right fucking i'm ordering pizza tonight but
if i see like another product i'm like man i really need clorox bleach today like no no that it's a thing because when
you're in a store you see so many brands but you will recognize one even if you don't realize it
you'll gravitate towards that one because you're like oh i've heard of this or like i recognize
this one i've heard of this brand name whereas other ones like it's all the same product
that the illusion of choice spread throughout the american economy and all of it is just a
bunch of bullshit and all of the conglomerates own every company anyway and there's really no
differentiating between the product you get a two but two space one says whitening one says uh
less sensitivity on your gums they're both the same thing if you look at the ingredients it's
exactly the same but i did buy mr bucket as a kid and not mr yellow can i wasn't done but you gravitate towards the one that you recognize
because you have heard something about it and so having those different choices there just makes
it so that one of them can stand out to you i'm done now so i have a question about this i guess
you brought up an interesting point for me mark okay when you are shopping and when i am shopping in general and there's like the brand name or
brand names multiple and then there's like the store brand i don't care about the brand name
i will buy store brand anything pretty much i will recognize brands and if i'm looking for
something specific that like a certain brand makes a certain flavor or something sure i will recognize brands and if i'm looking for something specific that like a
certain brand makes a certain flavor or something sure i will do that i will pick that one but in
general if i'm trying to buy like ibuprofen i don't really care unless i'm like i'm really sick
and i need the medicine or i have a crazy headache and i'm buying ibuprofen because i have a crazy
ass headache then something in my brain is like get get the name brand uh get the good one it will work better yeah i guess that's
true that does work like that how do you how do you guys differentiate that do you not care about
store brand do you get the name brand because you because it's something in your head yes i would
agree with that toilet paper and paper towels i want like the best one of toilet paper i cannot stand crappy toilet paper
no pun intended i need soft thick sheets that comfort my rectum yeah um sorry i went a little
too far there but you know i i can't handle like the little thin papery stuff at the moment they
touch your butt it disintegrates and it's just your hand on your asshole i think you might need more layers of toilet i have a tip on that uh you could stop at any i have acidic ass you could
literally stop anytime oh no you recognize you were at the edge of the cliff and then you kept
going but you know what i'm talking about you know that really awful toilet paper
wait that's the spiciest ass you have ever seen i feel like this is a good time to bring up this advertising topic.
It's Molly.
Credit to Molly for this.
So the reason this ass stuff is in your brain is Molly's fault.
You're welcome.
Why would you bring Molly into this?
To point in a different direction than myself.
It's not working.
I'm the judge and I say if it works or not.
Okay, so that's interesting though.
So I'm the same way about toilet paper
which you know you wouldn't want to cover something cheap and poop and flush it down
the toilet you want to cover the more expensive thing obviously here's an example of of this
that's kind of because most of the time i'm okay with generic brand where i'm not okay
is like amazon basics stuff oh you know you know, you know what I mean? Like Amazon basics.
No, no, no.
Amazon basics is terrible
because not only are they like,
OK, they're offering like staple items
at like low prices.
That was the whole idea behind it.
But then they went a step further
and there's an example with,
I think it's Peak Design Backpacks, right?
So Peak Design is a high quality
backpack manufacturer. I own a few. I'm not sponsored by them. They just make good shit, right? So Peak Design is a high quality backpack manufacturer. I own a few,
I'm not sponsored by them. They just make good shit, right? Sure. So they have what's called
like an I think it's called like their everyday sling. It's just a pack that goes over your
shoulder, it wraps around very convenient for holding cameras and quickly accessing them.
Amazon came out with a literal copy of it. I think they even called it like the everyday sling. They
have since changed it because Peak Design called them out in a video and of it. I think they even called it like the everyday sling. They have since
changed it because Peak Design called them out in a video and it just opened up this window to me
anyway. They were probably already doing this. Where Amazon Basics, what they do is they find
a popular product on their store on amazon.com and they will copy it because that one's popular and
they will offer it as a cheaper alternative. They will place it higher in the rankings so that you see,
oh, that one's, ooh, it's more money.
Ooh, this one's cheaper, but it's lower quality.
I will pay for quality any day.
And it's the same extension as the toilet paper thing,
because I know when I buy it from, say, this company, Peak Design,
or any other company that makes high quality goods, and I know that,
I know it's going to last longer.
I know it's going to be more effective for what I need it to do. It's going to be more intelligently designed,
it's going to have higher quality materials, like really, there's a whole thing about like
boots, you know, like that has been echoing since the early 1800s, whenever boots started being
made, probably before that, but you know, I'm just guessing just guessing it's like you can buy a shitty pair
of boots that'll wear out in six months of constant use or you can buy a really nice pair of boots
that cost maybe double maybe even triple the price but they'll last you your life like it'll last
forever and that's like the philosophy i go in terms of buying a store brand thing versus a name
brand thing that's fair and amazon is a that's bad it's it's bad at
that kind of thing but but listen so that's like a practice of amazon around the basics whatever
brand sure yeah that's really shitty obviously they're using their substantial resources they
have where they could literally see any product and be like yeah we can source that shit and
slap something together that looks kind of like that and sell it for a third of the price yep and like i think i don't know i don't want
to be on the side of amazon here but i think it's good that that option exists yeah because if it's
expensive high quality stuff or can't afford then yeah you need something in between can't afford
anything and uh you know a 200 backpacker i don't know how much those peak design ones are but like yeah they're pretty pricey right yeah they're nice but they're pricey
yeah for a nice bag that's that's sort of what you pay but like yeah the amazon stuff is not as good
but like in my office right now i have within reach several seven eight things that are amazon
basics because it's things like a phone charging cord that I don't want to pay 50 bucks
for a five foot long braided carbon fiber.
Sure.
You know, there are certain things
that Amazon Basics is great for,
aside from the fact that it's from Amazon,
but whatever, you know,
the capitalism issues aside, that's cool.
But yeah, the stealing of the ideas
and knocking shit off,
and I would never buy that either.
I feel like that's totally fair.
Yeah. But I'm also such a cheapskate i would never buy a peak design bag i would look at peak and then be like all right who's copying peak who's not amazon what about like a 60 version
of that bag i would go on you know i would get an instagram ad three days later and i'd be like
that's that's what i wanted and it'd probably be the same bag that amazon's selling but just
yeah with a higher price because it has a different brand on it absolutely there are things
like that who's the sucker i guess but i would never buy like an apple is a good example of it
apple's charging cords why would you go for that they're so not even good they're not even good
or they're just good enough you know they work and you know they'll work but also you can find any other there's hundreds of companies that have cables you just look at
reviews like hey this one works and it's cheap bam that one mine thank you they have medicine
on amazon basics you get medicine it's like you'll have half the diarrhea you had instead of no
diarrhea it's interesting i gotta look at that amazon basics medicine no i'm gonna i'm gonna look
amazon basics uh medicine what do we got it's one third the dose you need for the price you want to
pay oh yeah amazon basics cold and flu is there amazon basics acid reducer with amazon printed
right on the box oh my god amazon basics acetaminophen uh amazon basics tussin is it as
good as regular medicine i mean so like legally it has to be right it has to say what ingredients
are in it it has to have the correct ingredients in it yeah to some extent then again the people running
our country whenever they get interviewed about stuff like this they don't seem to know what the
fuck they're talking about so they probably don't even know it exists yeah i don't know i mean
that's the thing too with all the levels of regulation and different types of things are
regulated differently the companies will put a badge on there you know they make like a
supplement and they'll put a badge that's like organic and certified like the fda
does not certify something who certified this what do you mean certified i can see the congressional
hearing now like mr bezos i had an ear infection i went to amazon and the doctor there told me to
buy this basic uh acetaminophen now can you help me get better internet thank you congressman
please go back to bed now all right thank you nurse help me to my
bed oh my god this is amazon basics basketball which is just a brown basketball with amazon
basics embossed on one panel and that's it the brand is basketball oh wow all right so amazon
basics is a mixed bag yeah but yeah i mean that's interesting because
i do trust their medicine bob i buy store-brand medicine in general and it works that's the thing
too about stuff like this people are like oh it's from amazon well no it's not from it's if it's a
generic medicine it's probably from the same place that all of the other store-brand medicines are
from yeah it seems like everything is differentiated with the packaging and stuff stuff in america comes from like three sources i know yeah there's like there's not that
many companies so it's probably the exact same shit you want me to go on my rant about homogenized
corporations do you want me to do it oh baby please go there come on i was doing it before
but i'll do it again we have bob's fridge and
mark's homogenized sources you know how many toothpaste there are all of it's procter and
gamble every single one of them cincinnati-based procter and gamble owns the entire toothpaste
industry it's all the same it comes down to one building kroger it ralphs it's the same
ralphs is owned by kroger you think ralphs is different just because it's on the west coast no It comes down to one building. Kroger. It Ralphs. It's the same.
Ralphs is owned by Kroger.
You think Ralphs is different just because it's on the West Coast?
No.
Kroger.
Down south, there's another one.
I don't even remember what it is.
It's Kroger.
Harris Teeter.
Uh-huh.
Harris Teeter.
That's the one.
Harris Teeter.
I've never heard of that.
But Harry Titties.
Yeah.
Dude, the South has some crazy ass grocery stores.
Yeah.
Harris Teeter.
Food Lion. Whatever the Texas one. Heb. Heb. titties yeah dude the south has some crazy ass grocery stores yeah harris teeter food lion whatever the texas one heb proger at least in cincinnati will give you plastic bags i don't
know what y'all are doing in california but we still get bags over here we still get there's
plastic bags what do you mean what happened to you what did you think happened i had to carry
my groceries out by my bare hands wasn't allowed to wear gloves when I carried them.
Maybe that was you.
You just walked out.
They were like, hey, we got paper bags.
Is that okay?
Oh, nay, I say.
To hell with thee, paper.
Yeah, plastic is clearly superior.
It recycles better.
It burns better.
Paper?
What's paper used for?
You can get plastic. Every grocery store i've been to
in california has had plastic bags yeah but they charge you for the bags okay yeah they charge you
10 cents a bag wade it's real steep oh but what if i need 10 bags that's a full dollar no the thing
is the new plastic bags that they charge you for you can bring them back oh they're very reusable you
notice how they're thicker they're meant to be used multiple times i actually kind of wish we
had a system of more reusable stuff here in all seriousness we have that thing what do you mean
go buy a bag all right mark i'm not i don't really can you please keep this to english i don't know
what you're saying right now go buy any bet you have a backpack right you even put groceries in any container
that you can carry yeah see we have a whole like pantry the whole bottom of the pantry is just like
those cheap bags and we use them for like garbage bags some of our bathrooms and stuff but we still
get more than we end up using we have so many bags back oh man i know for a fact croakers in
ohio have things right by the exits and entrances, which is the big thing that's like, recycle your plastic bags, stuff them in here.
Free, right there, right at the grocery store.
I've never noticed.
I don't know if ours do.
Wade tunnel visions food and toilet paper.
He's got serious scanning for high quality toilet paper.
Well, yeah, what else do you get at the grocery store other than food and bags?
Wade comes storming into the Kroger, butt absolutely c absolutely caked in poo like i can't believe we ran out again
this has got to stop happening my car smells so you don't have a car sorry oh and there's a hole
in my pants where my acidic ass is ripped through everything i can't wipe it with the good paper
there's so many boxers with this acidic butthole i learned about the there reminds
me of the there's actually a thing called piss hands uh in the in the uh the i learned about
that as well art world were you watching corridor crew yes like adam savage talking about his piss
hands i'm googling piss hands against my better judgment oh that's dangerous i don't know about
that i don't it's a very like you, small circle that knows what piss hands is specifically.
I got it.
Urban Dictionary says the act of putting your hand in front of the penis or under the vagina to intercept piss as it flows out.
Yep.
Right?
That's the one.
Uh-huh.
That's what Adam Savage did a lot.
A warm to mildly hot sensation may follow.
Warm to hot.
Wait.
Mildly hot.
Mildly hot.
Formed a hot.
Wait.
Mildly hot.
Mildly hot.
And then the following article says, can peeing on your hands make them, oh, that says see-through.
It says tough.
Never mind.
I thought.
Wait, you saw, see-through was tough.
Yeah, I thought tough was see-through. It absolutely will toughen up that hand pad.
But will they become see-through?
Well, that's tougher to debate oh my god another article urine is
sterile so why do men wash their hands i mean fair question fair question because your dick's not
wait yours isn't uh but urine comes out down there so it's gotta be grabbing the urine what
are you doing how do you like a water bender with like the stream coming out your dick and you just aim it
Wash your dick with your urine
Sarah Sarah Sarah tiles it sterile sterilize it. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. It's not a sterilizer It is sterile, but the moment it comes out of your penis. It becomes not sterile
People think sterile means something that it doesn't mean
Means it's like
Purell, right?
Hey, I'm out of Purell.
Anybody ever offers me hand
sanitizer again, I'm saying no.
Purell manufacturing plant
is just a bunch of weird toilets that collect
it all.
You gotta get the yellow out of it so nobody knows the secret.
Yeah, that's why the knockoff brands are all yellowed.
You know, they don't have the extra step.
Why does some hand sanitizer have the little like chunky bits in them?
Like, you know, the little like...
They're like little silicon beads or something.
Yeah, I don't like that kind. I got to be honest. Is that chunky pee. I don't like that kind.
I gotta be honest.
Is that chunky pee?
I don't think that's a thing.
Look, this is about advertising.
Wait, I have something else we can talk about.
Great, you get two points, Bob, for a segue.
Have you guys ever seen Pink Marjoram?
I didn't know her last name, but her music's pretty good.
Yeah, sure.
So, Butter, right? Thank you thank you i will everybody loves butter uh but during the early
part like during the industrial revolution the other late 19th early 20th century buttery was
kind of hard to come by was not shelf stable because i had to be refrigerated all this stuff
margarine it's basically like whipped oil right it's shelf stable it's kind of like butter
it tastes pretty good but apparently there was this big thing when margarine was invented it's
kind of like a grayish color because it's basically oil it's not a particularly good color it's kind
of gross and there was a huge fight the dairy farmer like lobbyists or whoever got local
governments as well as like state and larger area provincial governments in Canada to make a law that margarine could not be butter colored.
And so for a long time, and still today in some specific brands,
margarine is sold in either a disgusting, like grayish, gross, non-edible looking color
or bright pink because it has to be distinguished from butter
because they did not want margarine pretending
to be butter.
It's really gross.
Like imagine you're having a piece of toast and you're like, oh honey, will you hand me
the margarine?
And it's just like a tub of pink.
Like it looks like cotton candy gum and it's horrific.
I'm okay with that.
Wait, was I can't believe it's not butter, actually margarine?
What?
Yeah, that's what that is, I think, right?
Of course it is.
Wasn't that the same color as butter?
It is now.
What I'm saying, this was like, you know, 7,800 years ago.
Okay, gotcha.
There are still brands that in modern times sell pink margarine, but I think it's like a,
oh, this is the old-timey margarine or whatever.
I have no idea why they would choose to do that.
It sounds terrible, but it looks gross.
I mean, I don't think it looks so gross.
I'm actually okay with that.
It looks like strawberry-flavored something.
It actually looks kind of good.
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
It looks like Pepto-Bismol spread on a piece of toast.
I get that, but also my mind doesn't go to Pepto-Bismol.
My mind does go to bubblegum, and I don't want a bubblegum butter,
but knowing that it's margarine,
I think I would be able to fight through that and get straight to the deliciousness. does go to bubble gum and i don't want a bubble gum butter but knowing that it's margarine i think
i would be able to fight through that and get straight to the deliciousness bob you get a point
for having pepto bismol work on you you thought of their brand upset stomach diarrhea are there
like i guess uh we're coming toward the end here a little bit but are there like commercials you
know worked on you that i know chevrolet lower prices lower rates have you ever been to a mccluskey's oh god no i would never buy
a chevrolet in my entire life no so it's specifically advertisements that we have gone
out and bought something yeah like you like you've seen the advertisement you're like okay i'm gonna
buy that oh yeah actually i do have an occasion i saw an ad online i forget
what website it was on but it was for a wallet a wallet company and it was specifically not that
techie wallet that everyone sees rich wallet yeah it's not that one and literally because i had been
inundated with ads for that wallet when i saw this other one that was like a very nice higher quality
leather wallet like i went in to the website i looked at all the this other one that was like a very nice higher quality leather wallet
like i went in to the website i looked at all the research about it it was like very well reviewed
i bought it specifically because you know i'm the kind of guy like i i got my wallet from hot topic
20 years ago you know i don't really care i found a wallet off the street i threw all the money away
and then i took it as my own you know i like but i went out and i i've no further comment on my
story there i went out and i bought this wallet and i to this day it's my favorite wallet i look
at the thing and i get happy like you know the the the lady on the netflix show yeah like if it
doesn't bring you joy throw it away when i when i look at it sometimes it brings me joy and i know
i'm a capitalist shill for looking at a product and thinking that but i really like it, sometimes it brings me joy. And I know I'm a capitalist shill for looking at
a product and thinking that, but I really like it. It's, it's got a great science, good color,
and it's high quality. And I've ran it through the wash a few times accidentally. And it's been
exactly the same. The color is the same. The design is the same. Like it's just a very well
made wallet. I'm very happy that there was an ad that showed me because I never would have known
about it otherwise. Did you see the ad and it was like,
it has these features and you were like, wow, shit.
Or was it literally you saw the ad and you were like,
I like that way better than that other one.
I'm just going to buy this one.
It literally was that I was curious about it.
It didn't say anything splashy.
It was not something that was like,
oh, this wallet is amazing, a million features.
It was literally, I think it just was a picture of the wallet
and it said wallet underneath.
And I was like, sold.
Give me two. Which I i did i bought two real quick before we wrap this up i i want to ask the opposite is
there a commercial that you remember that just hit you in a way where you're like i'm never buying
that product because the commercial was either just so cringe so bad or just so like it just
made it had the opposite effect where you recognize the brand you're like i'm not touching that with a 25 foot pole oh man um can i this might be controversial
because i feel like people liked these commercials yeah it's your opinion it's not a fact can i just
say the terry crews old spice commercials really that's interesting i hate i hate those okay i
think they're funny like i watch them and and I'm like, oh, ha.
Oh, and it zoomed in.
Wow, it is nipples dancing or whatever.
It's funny.
But they're so cringy.
Like every time I see one, my visceral reaction is like, oh, oh, I don't want Old Spice.
Oh God.
Like, I don't know why.
Cause I think they're funny.
They're funny.
Terry Crews is funny.
I like that guy.
I thought that way about Puppy Monkey Baby.
Like it did not make me want mountain dew the commercial i like laughed at it but i was like watching this
like dude's junk in his underwear jiggle around it's not maybe one to buy this i know exactly
what you're talking about puppy monkey you love that i did that one for a long time after that
super bowl i would interject puppy monkey baby for no reason i hated that yeah i did not
make me want mountain dew i was like i'm not buying mountain dew the commercial is funny but
like i do not want to drink this and think of a yeah fucking it is so it is such a fine line of
intentionally cringy stuff that like is an advertisement that just like there's a way that
sometimes it works and gets stuck in people's head. For me, it's the Starburst commercial.
And I know I'm probably in the minority of this one.
It's the berries and cream, berries and cream.
I always hated that one.
Oh, like for some reason, but for some people,
and it had a resurgence recently on, I think, TikTok of like that coming back.
And then they brought the original actor back.
And I was like, why did you bring this back?
No, I also hate that one. I hate that one i hate yeah i hate that one i couldn't stand it and i saw it all the time
because i watched a lot of like cartoon network and nickelodeon and it would always play
nothing against the guy who plays that that's fine i just i cannot stand that i i refuse to
get starburst afterwards i'm just going down a horrible line of memories right now.
I just rewatched the commercial
and I have the same reaction.
God, I hate that.
A lot of the insurance commercials too.
I don't know.
I generally don't like watching commercials,
but don't have strong negative reactions to them.
I've got another one.
And this is a recent one.
It's a recent commercial.
Have you guys seen the one with Matt Damon? And I'm not even going to talk about like the specific site that he's
promoting. Oh, no. Yeah. Fortune favors the brave. That one. Yes. It's a crypto NFT commercial. I got
nothing as Matt Damon specifically, but this commercial has the audacity to compare like the
incredible achievements of humanity of like you know whatever explorer like
progress and stuff like that going to space and it ends on going like mars and the dream of like
humanity on mars like cryptocurrency the next step in human history it's like oh come on
i i adamantly like i see uh before we get a million people coming to hate i see the potential
of specifically the blockchain the idea and the technology behind it that one thing i see the
potential in that the current ecosystem of that entire universe do not compare it don't you dare
no i this is not a this is not a testimony as far as
the product goes this is simply did the commercial hit you in a way that you're like oh yeah or oh
no like no i get you that commercial hit me all wrong too oh i hate hate hate hate hate hate
that's a good barometer you should bust that out if you're like at a party with a group of new people yeah just play that and if anyone is like ah yeah it's made like 4k on dip coin bro then you know you don't want to be friends
with that person you can rule them out exactly yeah no i fucking hate that commercial we might
have to crack out a part two for this eventually because i feel like we have a lot to say about
advertising no no no no i'll save that for a rainy day it'll come back it's
gonna be a marketing podcast in the next month yeah all of our sponsors are gonna pull out like
we didn't like what you had to say yeah we didn't even talk about like our methodology for advertising
our ads are dynamic and engaging they really inform you about the product and we end every
ad recording with the sentence,
do you think they'll let us do that?
I do think it's funny.
I don't know if we've talked about it before.
So the ads are 60 seconds, right?
Yeah.
I have no idea what ours end up being.
Last time we recorded, well, they do.
They end up being 60 seconds.
The last time we recorded ads, recorded four ads uh in an hour and it's not like we're sitting there just quietly like uh what if we
talk no we're doing shit yeah we just start one of us is like i'll do it this episode is spot
and then we just talk for like 20 minutes and then will is like oh my god ah just read god damn it i hate you guys we have to i i
have to ask will it was obviously listening to this right now do you have a cutting room floor
of all the failed ad bits that we've done because bob was not exaggerating we legitimately to do 10
ads the just last week it took us an hour and 45 minutes from start to finish use a robot voice
will insert it just be like yes i hate you guys no that's not what we're asking i'm asking is
there a cutting room floor so that we can release that yeah answer it but yeah yes because that
content right there that exists because yes we we have taken an approach to try to make our ads funny
and engaging sometimes we're more successful than other times but what gets cut out is fucking
hilarious but we all are like that can never we first started recording ads we did three or four
takes per ad and we're like oh let's try this one will pick your favorite one now we just give one
take and we're like ah you'll you'll fix it in post and will is like i can pick out some sentences from this
oh yeah man i i really want people to listen to that stuff someday it's got to exist if it doesn't
will you might be doing that will you might have a job
we're gonna have an episode that's just the failed
advertising if you guys cut out the sponsors so it'll just be the random bits around which
sponsor you would never be able to guess the sponsor from some of the bits
if you guys want to hear that put it on the subreddit like get a little poll going or
whatever or show your interest in it on the youtube comments or whatever have you i look
forward to the email from will where it's like i deleted that as fast as i got it guys it doesn't
exist can't can't find any of those files sorry guys don't know what happened not doing that
though yeah yeah just got the ever increasingly more offensive BetterHelp ads that we...
Wasn't there literally...
I'm not going to say what the idea was.
Wasn't there one where I was like,
okay, we got BetterHelp.
I got an idea, guys.
And I was like, it is sponsored by BetterHelp.
And I said one sentence and everyone was like,
nope, nope, nope.
No, no, no.
I think we've had a few different sponsors
where we come up with ideas where we immediately shut ourselves or each other down.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
This happened more than once, but definitely I remember that.
And let's not talk about it.
No, I don't know.
I mean, that's a joke.
That's a joke.
I made that up.
Will, edit this in post.
It's sitting free, Will.
So I guess to wrap things up, we have a lot to say about advertising because
for the last decade advertising has been a big part of our lives both in and out of our own jobs
but i have to uh give the win to somebody here and looking at our points um i don't remember
ever audibly getting a point this entire oh he was tracking him he was trying i i literally was
keeping track i didn't say things out loud i didn't want to interrupt you guys but i gave you
points for various bits i gave you guys both like two points at the start.
It was three, but all right.
Oh, maybe it was three.
I didn't keep track of when I gave them to you.
You guys were mostly tied,
but the edge goes to Mark.
And the reason the edge goes to Mark
is he had an outburst
that was not quite Bob's fridge level,
but it was still very funny.
Listen to him go off on a tangent.
And that was really the difference in this episode.
So our winner is Mark.
Thank you.
I'm very gracious.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
In this advertising episode, I'd like to take my winner's speech.
Do I get a winner's speech?
Yeah, sure.
Go ahead.
Advertise.
I was going to advertise.
I have a new podcast.
Whoa.
Go for it.
With Tyler called Go My Favorite Sports.
It's the Distractible Sister Podcast. i think that's what you call it oh do we get royalties from this now how much do we have you get nothing
no not at all it's go my favorite sports team mark didn't finish the last word
and uh you know big props tyler being a big sports guy big props to me for not um and uh yeah
a bail on this podcast immediately go listen to that one never come back great um
this episode sponsored by abandonment
if you ever feel abandoned it better help us here for people to talk to you about that
i guess that's true i'm gonna be very
careful how i proceed now but we're gonna wrap up bob do you want to segue into a loser's speech
just to have something else said uh i didn't realize how valuable angry rants uh could be
i'm gonna try and work more of those into more episodes in the future and hopefully uh steal
away some wins that rightfully should have probably gone to the other person especially when i'm the host because you won
bob's fridge with your angry rant if i remember that was the only one who said anything if market
won now it would have been the biggest at the end of the end we had more points than you that
episode you won because of golf rules no no that that that episode yeah it was weirdly close for me not saying anything at all that episode. That was my favorite Mark episode.
All right.
Well, we're going to move on immediately.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in to Distractible.
Go listen to Go My Favorite Sports Team, but also do come back.
We've got another banger coming out next week that Mark's hosting.
Assume he doesn't leave us forever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thanks to our sponsors and all of our future advertising campaigns. I hope you all buy all those
products and give us all your money. Well, we
don't get that money. We don't make money if they buy it.
They get the money. That goes to the company.
Well, at least we're here together
having fun, the three of us.
Stay tuned for next week's episode where
Mark will host and who knows what the hell we'll talk about.
Until then, goodbye my friends podcast out