Distractible - Doing It Wrong

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

Whatever these guys are doing, they're definitely doing it wrong. Watch as Bob, Mark, and Wade discuss the various things they do wrong on a daily basis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcas...tchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:56 From trickle-down exposure and water sports to flossing with garments. Yes, it's time for Doing It Wrong. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome back, once again, to another episode hosted by me. Hi, my name's Bob and I'm the host because I can't stop winning. Always winning. Never stop winning. I can't stop, and I won't stop. It's physically impossible for me to avoid winning any time
Starting point is 00:02:31 I compete on this podcast, and it feels great, tell you what. And I'm joined by my two losers, Mark and Wade, who will be competing today. Say hi, losers. Uh, well, I'm not gonna say hi. No, you said hi no you said that was a well you know as i was going to refute what you said i wasn't saying hi points to wade for not falling into the
Starting point is 00:02:54 loser trap i didn't fall in also i didn't lose because i hosted and i made you win so yeah well you didn't win did you so you must have. Sometimes it just comes down to a coin flip, you know? Not what I'm hosting. Okay, well, anyway, what I was going to say is, does thou speak like an asshole too much? Because I think that the subreddit has swooped in and finally come to terms with the idea that I am being treated unfairly on this podcast. And those who were previously known as and friends, you know, are getting a little too high on their own fumes.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So I think that I'm sorry. Do I have baby food on my face? Wow, I totally did. I thought you were like jokingly wiping a tear as if you were like, oh, you know, I i have a little caked on baby food uh that's fine it's fine well maybe don't eat it so messily anyway uh so in in that i went to the subreddit to be like i can't wait to see how they're uh really on my side and then i saw which is funny because you were talking about this loser talk and you got roasted alive on the subreddit bob you got destroyed you got annihilated that doesn't sounddit, Bob, you got destroyed.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You got annihilated. That doesn't sound right. I just see a bunch of pictures of him in a fridge. I'm not in a fridge. I'm in a white void. Yeah. But the one where you had the shelf behind you, the fridge shelves,
Starting point is 00:04:15 it does. It does look like it looks. It's so to be fair and to correct the loser idiots on the subreddit, it looks like a freezer, not a fridge. Dumb, dumb. That white metal shelving that looks like that. It looks like a freezer. Well, I think they were just assuming that you are so tall that you had to cut the path from the fridge to the freezer. And that's just your upper half in the top section. My brain is actually so powerful that
Starting point is 00:04:43 it runs so hot that my body can withstand refrigeration, but my brain needs freezer level cooling to operate at optimal levels. Right. Okay. So anyway, not to derail this episode immediately, but the reason I wanted to bring that up is because I swear to God, your shirt that you wore that day is made of the same material that that dress that broke the Internet was because it looks blue and black in some angles and then it looks white and gold in others. And I really think you nailed that that aesthetic, if that's what you're going for. No, I actually have owned that shirt since before that thing on the Internet happened. It's just a blue and gray shirt so you're saying they stole your shirt to make the dress i actually am that meme
Starting point is 00:05:32 but before is there a word for that i'm that people actually see other colors other than blue and gray there yeah people in the dress you didn't see no the dress i've seen i meant bob shirt oh okay well i was just saying me i'm not saying everyone's talking about i'm trying to i'm just trying to say it looks like that uh everyone's talking about it wade everyone's talking about it wade i didn't even pay attention to the shirt i was too busy looking at the bag of groceries on his left and the milk on his right yeah no so that's funny the person who did the adding stuff adding things to the picture until it's whatever was like i'm not doing any more and then the fridge thing came up and everyone was like well one more we could do one more he's in a fridge
Starting point is 00:06:12 i just i'm like you know i i swear i could find a transparent milk jug on the internet with a very quick search i swear i could they're doing the lord's work there anyway so yeah don't be so uppity about your wins there bob because the the hurricane of justice is flowing into your state area the tri-state area is under a severe hurricane warning of justice oh you're overlooking the fact that despite the fact that i was in an easily mockable setting and everyone went in on me super far super fast i still won so what does that make you well unfair there's been a if i'm in a refrigerator where are you mark there's been a a low pressure zone of unfairness in the the greater los ang area, and I haven't...
Starting point is 00:07:05 It's been a dearth. A dearth. It's been a dearth of justice in my vicinity. Question. Is dearth the opposite of girth? Or are those just unrelatedly sound-alike words? Because I just... That just struck me, and I couldn't not say it out loud. If girth is thickness,
Starting point is 00:07:22 is dearth a measure of... Dearth is how much it goes in on itself it's like you know the venn diagram circles that overlap it's that inner part of the overlapping no that's that's d-i-r-t-h i'm talking d-e-a-r-t-h the? Are you trying to say Da Earth, Mark? No, Da Arth. Da Arth Vader. Da Arth Vader. You know, Da Arth is a scarcity or lack of something, and Darth Vader has a lack of ability to save his wife. No, you know, Da Arth is really a thing that doesn't get enough funding in public schools,
Starting point is 00:08:01 Mark, and it's really not something to joke about. Da Arth is very enriching. Right, right. What about dearth, though? Dearth is basically just mud with no water in it, so I don't know why we're talking about that. So if I'm lacking in dearth, am I girth? I'm girthy as hell? You're girthed out. I'm girthed out. You know, I played a dwarf named Derb once. Does that sound like dearth? No no that's a proper noun that could mean anything i don't know what language that's from we're speaking english here in america i'd like to think people come to distractible to learn new words and insightful commentary on the world
Starting point is 00:08:34 no that's one of the top things we provide is expanded vocabulary for all of our watch listeners Watch listeners. Wait till they hear about Shwait. Expound. Expound. I won't. You must. I declare. I have to wait till they hear about it. Then I'll expound.
Starting point is 00:08:53 They're going to have to Shwait. They have to Shwait. They have to Sh and wait. Shwait. It's short for shut the fuck up and wait. Shwait. Well, I guess we're expounding now. So I didn't say it out loud, so I might as well uh this is a show i'm the host they're competing i give out points the winner hosts the next episode we're
Starting point is 00:09:12 like 10 minutes in uh five minutes into the episode and i didn't explain that but who cares i'm actually that's a bad question because you know who cares the subreddit desperately one person at least i'd goddamn better keep fair points and give a fair winner to the fairest fair. Our friendship hinges on it. You said they're going to get me because I'm a winner. No, they're going to get me on the fairness mark. That's what the subreddit comes out for. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Well, I'm just saying that kind of was the crux of my entire argument there was that it was unfair. No, but you were trying to tear down my winning. You can't destroy the wins. I got got wins fair and square squarely and fairly i think the hosts eat more shit on the subreddit than the competitors do that's definitely true usually the host is the target of the ire but that's okay all i want is to remember the handshake deals that are made behind closed doors because i just have this vague recollection that i'm i'm like on the line for 30 wins if i do something and i can't remember what it was you know what i remember the 30 wins part and i think it was a handshake between you and me potentially and i for the life of me can't remember what you are not supposed to do either or something i can
Starting point is 00:10:24 probably go watch the footage that's probably out there somewhere there's a sub clause that if you two can't remember i get the wins hey subreddit if you want to keep track of something someone has diligently kept track of all of our wins and has a graph and and has it broken out in several different ways if someone wants to keep track of all the handshake deals that'd be really helpful because i can't fucking remember and i'll say your username probably on the episode if i if i use your thing they like that they like that a lot they like that i'll pay you an exposure oh exposure the dollar goes up and down in value as opposed to other currencies but exposure is always worth the same amount. Such as mad underscore wordsmith asking if this is a cannoli. Keep it up.
Starting point is 00:11:07 You can't just give it out like that. Now the value of the exposure has gone down. No, that's a taste. It's a sprinkle. It's to show them that we mean business. There is no such thing as trickle-down exposure. There is. We have all of it at the top, and we'll slowly introduce it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, right. No, we have the power. So, yeah, yeah no trickle down exposure totally works that's right we're yeah that's great for everyone especially including you guys and us though don't worry about it or think about it and we would give you guys more exposure but we need it to boost the exposure economy don't you understand yeah how are we going to hire more uh workers to work for exposure if we don't have the exposure to pay our exposure taxes what in god's name is that
Starting point is 00:11:47 cup it's so brightly colored a naked lady with a grill on it do you wanna what's the words mark it says do women have to be naked to get into the met museum what a fitting cup for you no it's it's you know less than four percent of the
Starting point is 00:12:09 artists in the modern art sections are women but 76 of the nudes are female oh interesting i don't know what a met museum was i thought it was for the new york mets baseball team i'm guessing it's not what it is oh my it's short's short for Metropolitan, Wade. Holy crap. Have you heard of the Met Gala? Yeah, I don't know what it is, but I've heard those words. That's where people dress up. Well, actually, I don't know if the Met Gala is that the museum or is that the Metropolitan Opera that has the gala?
Starting point is 00:12:35 I forget. I don't actually. I've never been invited, so I have no idea. I'm not that civilized, but Met is short for Metropolitan, the Metropolitan Museum. So the New York Mets are the New York Metropolitans? No, yeah, it's it's the Met Gala is short for the the New York City Metropolitan Museum of Art. There you go. Do you know do you know what the Cincinnati baseball team is, Wade? The Reds, formerly the Red Stockings or something. They're they're not formally. Reds is currently their shorthand name for the official. Well, I'm not going to say that. I think they're still
Starting point is 00:13:04 technically the Red Legs, the Cincinnati Red Legati red legs baseball team anyway this is our official declaration that we're throwing down against go my favorite sports teams those guys are hacks and don't actually tell you the real hard-hitting things about sports they suck and we need to tell them tyler's obsessed with balls and holes, but let me tell you, there's so much more about sport than just balls and holes. There's also nets and too many men on the field. Nets and goals and posts and kicks and... Illegal touching.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Naughty touching. No, no, no. Centers. Wade's short for Wade-a-fur. I've always thought if it's going to be called a tight end shouldn't the next spot out which is usually like a tight receiver or a slot receiver shouldn't that be called a loose end yeah but they tie those up well that's fine but once you tie it up then it's a tight end if it's untied it's a loose end those are under the field yeah whatever i don't know if
Starting point is 00:14:01 this counts as small talk do we want to count that as our small talk do you guys want to do the actual small talk well apparently we only talk about the same things every week in the same small talk tell us about ai and also mac versus pc what i don't get is how in that post and this is that one guy this is that one guy doing i know that because it's like me i only ever talk about ai bob you only ever talk about your baby and somehow wade gets a pass because he doesn't talk about anything i've got nothing and that's how he everyone's like that's beautiful that's great at least he's not saying these two other subjects it's like i've talked about so many diverse topics in my small talk and they want to boil it down to just ai i've talked about
Starting point is 00:14:47 moral quandaries you know you're talking about ai again mark you want me to talk about it again i'll talk about it here's my small talk foam wet not on walls hey guys my computer is dying oh fucking shit i need to go get the charger for my laptop or apparently it's at 10% battery. Run! Run! My chair closes, locks my office door from opening. Hang on. Alright. Head empty. Foam wet.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Not on walls. It's not my fault. My laptop is dying. It just dies. Will, this might need to be an edit out depending on what's said here. I had it plugged in over here for a while. Oh no. I think maybe it got put in the cabinet at some point.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I really wish you'd start talking shit about us. I'm not saying that you touched it. I know. The painting people moved all the shit around. Painting person. I feel like we shouldn't listen to that. I know. So, uh, what's up small
Starting point is 00:15:45 talk you got anything interesting in mind oh laptop charger where did i leave you oh it's in my backpack which is upstairs next to my computer okay fuck i can't un-listen oh i'm a microphone. I wonder if they can still hear me. Did you guys hear me that whole time? We kept going like, oh no, we shouldn't listen to this. I found my charger, guys. It was right here five feet away from me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Can you believe it? Oh man, that's crazy. We were trying not to listen, but we couldn't help it. Why would you try not to listen? We were trying to talk over you. I'm the one who went to the bathroom wearing my love. That's the rule. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Because the other thing I always talk about, apparently, is, been editing right but i was editing and i got to this take where it's mysteriously a 40 minute take um and i'm like well that's weird uh and i'm like okay the video stops at two minutes and then it's 38 minutes of my love live just as we're going to lunch is it is it good or is it really just boring because i'm sure most of that boring it's just boring conversation it's not like i i it's not like cut and then i just start swearing like racism comes spewing out they yell cut and you're like are we done rolling and we're like yeah you're like you walked right across my fucking eyeline i'm up here do you know that's how that's how uh actors get in trouble
Starting point is 00:17:25 marcus gritchin bale what the hell we were hoping bob when you stepped away i was like please start shit talking us or something be like did i i don't even know what i said no you were just talking about your cord that's absolutely something i would do i was hoping but we didn't get any of it on camera to hold against you anyway i want to talk about the cost effectiveness of apple that is it for the small talk portion bob uh you told me to watch the time i did so back to you oh i back to you oh no that bit's dead we're done with that don't do that anymore that's bad deduct points deduct points to punish him if you do that again it better be on your dick we'll get the blur ready.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Stand by. I'll paint the little face and make it look like Mickey Mouse's nose. Well, I don't know, Mark. Do you have anything interesting to talk about then? Yeah, I got interesting things. AI, here we come. Well, what if I don't want to talk about them? You have to. I don't have to. I don't have to do anything. I said so, so
Starting point is 00:18:23 suck it. I might not have to. I don't have to do anything. I said so, so suck it. I might not go today. What's that mean? That's so specific. Go where? Where are you going? Well, it don't matter. I might not be going. But I might. Oh, that's very confusing.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I might not, though. Well, that sounds disappointing, if I'm honest. Well, he doesn't wanna. No, I wanna. I wanna. Never mind. he's changed his tune since we were talking earlier no i mean i want to in a conceptual way but also like i'd be cool if not but not that it doesn't happen at all it's just as if it wasn't today that'd be great so it's gonna be today though then you guys want nim and nim are they stuck together or are you just offering dude okay good i would like are those peanut m&ms oh yeah dude i got the whole big bag god that would kill ethan so fast that
Starting point is 00:19:11 would kill ethan so fast i know i there is nothing i wanted more than when we were around him than peanuts because i couldn't have them just like every time i went to a convenience store while on the bus i was like dude i would kill for imminent peanuts right now i want a baby ruth bar so bad oh my god oh but only if he wouldn't die my life is so hard yeah it's annoying okay it's really annoying you're the person on an airplane when they're asked to not open peanut products that are like oh no only in my head i don't make a fuss i just think like damn that fucking person i'll sneak it anyway i'm sneaking it they won't know it don't matter what happened to survival of the fittest why am i the one paying for their shitty genetics well there's evidence that it's not entirely genetic. Oh, so he just needs to get over it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I mean, severe allergies that could result in death. I don't know if you can get over them through exposure therapy, but Ethan did that, right? I think he talked about that a lot, that when he was a kid, he exposed to one 32nd of a peanut once a month or something and tried to reduce his allergy. It didn't work. month or something and tried to like reduce his allergy and it didn't work it didn't fix him long term but like if you have a slight allergy probably maybe that would be more effective and and you wouldn't die if you messed up i played uh school sports so i was surrounded by nuts in the locker room all the time i also had lots of exposure i want to circle back to that because that actually is a really good transition to today's topic. I knew it. Points? Yeah, points. Sure, points for that.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Man, I feel like I've said a lot. Mark, this is my turn. That actually was like, wow. Oh, man. It's usually not true when you do stuff like that, but it was so poignantly true that there's no rebutting it. It is your turn. You're right. I just feel bad for Mark, but... It's okay. there's no reputting it oh it is your turn you're right i just feel bad for mark but it's okay it's okay i deserve it's to mark for garnering my pity what about points
Starting point is 00:21:12 to me for being so hilariously cruel uh you get a lot of points let's let's say something good okay thank you thank you no the only update i have is i've been trying to get this foam on the wall like i told you guys like two episodes ago but our dryer broke and I've got soaking wet foam that I can't dry. Oh, I was going to say, you mentioned that earlier. You definitely want to get that cleaned out. That's, you know how those, those, those commercials that are like dryers start some large percentage of home fires.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yup. That's how they start. Cause your vent thing is probably clogged. Hence the reason why I'm not using the dryer and I've got wet foam. We had that in our, you can buy, so I know you're, I don't know where your laundry room is, but you can buy the brush where you just like attach it to a drill and it comes with a bunch of sections so you can make it really long and you can like do that yourself. Is the pipe thing easy to come off the back of the dryer?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, you scoot the dryer out. There's a hose clamp you just take like a flathead screwdriver unscrew the hose clamp it slides right off and then you have access to the metal pipe and then they just sell like a brush and you can buy as many lengths of extension as you want for it and you just put the drush on a drill how bad is it just to shove a vacuum hose up there it doesn't do it so it's not just like it's filled with dust it's humid right when the dryer is pushing that air mixed with the lint out there it's like kind of moist it like glues itself to the sides of the pipe how deep up there do i need to go because our dryer the way it's
Starting point is 00:22:38 situated i'll give you a diagram here yeah yeah let's let's really dig into this. So dryer is, let's call it yay height, right? Height goes from floor to fucking ceiling! I really thought he was going to expand that and be like, alright, Will, put up a diagram here. I have an original thought.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Will. Oh, wow. I see what you're getting at. That's so clever that you did it like that i know but it's like it's one giant metal pipe that goes like all the way up it's like an eight or because it's not a finished ceiling and it goes all the way to the ceiling so it's like a nine foot just straight fucking so there's code right there's a maximum length that those are generally supposed to be. So I think they're supposed to be like 12 feet or less or 15 feet or less or something like that in most... Where does it go after that?
Starting point is 00:23:33 It goes to the outside. So wherever it goes up and terminates, there's a little thing on the outside of your house. It could be on the roof. I don't know if it's upstairs or in the basement or what, but it's on the outside of your house. There'll be like a little box with some flaps. And when the dryer blows, the flaps are blown open. And that's where that air goes.
Starting point is 00:23:52 If it's clogged, the flaps probably don't blow open. But I would say if you can find that vent on the outside of your house, what you want to do is take the dryer off and go from both ends. Cause you just remove the screws and that little cover comes off and you want to go in from both ends. The trick is, we have two dryers in the house. You have two dryers?
Starting point is 00:24:09 What the hell kind of mansion? How many ovens do you have? They've got the main laundry area, which we've been using. So I've not had access to it for the foam. Which is why I tried using this dryer for the foam. They had their old washer and dryer they just installed in their basement. It's not like we brought them or anything. But they've got the basement washer and dryer. Which like installed in their basement it's not like we brought them or anything but they've got this like the basement washer and dryer which have weird stains on them and they
Starting point is 00:24:30 maybe look like they were used in a murder but those are the ones i was allowed to use for the foam cool cool i was told uh that we didn't want foam on our laundry dryer so they were my molly and company were using the other dryer for their stuff. So I was given murder dryer. I can't believe it doesn't work. Well, it gets things warm. That's good. That sounds safe. It's like really warm wet foam. Full of highly flammable dust and it gets real hot.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It sounds to me like your problem can be solved by just bowling over everyone else and going to the other dryer. Well, that's the plan today. By just bowling over everyone else and going to the other dryer. Well, that's the plan today. After we're done here, I told them I was like, I claim dryer today because murder dryer is not working. You know what you could do, too, if you want to make it someone else's problem. Just go to a laundromat and you can use as many dryers as you want and dry them all at once. And if there's any damage to the dryer system or whatever, it's not yours.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I forgot those existed. I haven't used those since college, so I forgot they existed. I mean, I haven't really used a laundromat in quite a while, but why did you forget them? I just don't ever pass them either. I just don't see them very often. Your town doesn't allow that kind of riffraff. Oh, yes. No, of course. In Richmansville, we only allow the rich,
Starting point is 00:25:40 and the rich don't have laundromats. They have laundroservants. You know, in fact, I do have a laundromat. I misspoke. His name is Jeff. Oh, you must be referring to the laundromat. The laundromat metropolitan. Ah, the metropolitan laundry.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Only the most fashionable. The metropolitan gallery of laundering. I have a team of servants that use... Blow. Blow the foam. There, they're going to get it for me. The Metropolitan Gallery of Laundering. I have a team of servants that use the... Blow! Blow the foam! There, they're going to get it for me. And if they get any spit on it, they get fired. They better have dry blows only.
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Starting point is 00:26:53 Hey, you asked about my small talk and... I just feel like somehow the subreddit is gonna be like, Thank God I was having a dryer crisis. Like, thank God I was having a dryer crisis. And Wade, St. Wade brought up this topic and provided the insight. His diagram, ungodly. Godly and ungodly. It's against any deity because of how good it was.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Only man. We were hours, mere minutes away from our house going up in a blaze of glory of dryer lint ignition. And Wade saved my entire family flipping around there's the inside of the pipe you just shove swoop pull well you don't have to do that thanks will appreciate you i can't wait to see what i have behind me because it won't be a dryer you know what i find hilarious bob this guy wade that no one's gonna call him out for no one not a soul is gonna call him out for it but i'm calling him out right now i hear a line he's got auto white balance enabled on his camera i know can you believe that i'm recording on the built-in webcam on my laptop and i don't even have that turned on guys i don't know how to use a camera that seems like an important thing you could have learned in the
Starting point is 00:28:03 last decade while you were doing this job with you that's what i've always had friends for i'm like hey guys this is happening and you guys like try this setting and then it's fixed i never worry about it again you use the camera on a daily basis there's no way that issues haven't come up where you had an opportunity to learn at least a little bit about how that works after this episode i'm totally gonna ask you how you mess with auto white balance and it's going to be great. It is one of the most basic settings to change on any camera that exists. I got your back, buddy.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And it's one of the most fundamental things you do when you have a green screen is because you don't want your green changing colors as you're there. That would explain all of the streaming issues I've been having with my green screen where I start to disappear.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Oh, man. I keep blaming OBS obs but it might be a weight issue no it's definitely probably white balance changing the hue of your green man that explains i've been getting so pissed every stream i go live and i'm wearing like different color shirts i'm like dude why do i have to adjust the green screen parameters again oh my my God. Oh my God. Here's a pro tip to all you potential content creators out there. Don't be me. Oh God. I just can't believe you've never in all that time of being mad been like,
Starting point is 00:29:18 what is it? Changing colors or something? Have you said that? Have you said those words? colors or something? Have you said that? Have you said those words? I was also confused why there wasn't a contrast option on the OBS
Starting point is 00:29:31 green screen filter, so I messed with everything else instead. Oh, man. Enough about me. Let's talk about you, Bob. Points to Wade. I don't want these points. Because you don't deserve them, but you get them anyway you're like the subreddit you reward me for bad behavior and i appreciate that oh wait don't be too embarrassed
Starting point is 00:29:51 you're gonna get really red it's gonna change your cameras i was literally saying that you're shifting the colors on your camera you're gonna ruin everything it's gonna make it so hard for will to do that green screen bit that you totally came up with on your own yeah he's spending hours rotoing you out manually he's like it's gotta be perfect it's gotta be perfect make it as grainy and awful as you can this is a metropolitan um editing podcast will when it goes up put the eyedropper on his skin and not the green i don't even know what those words mean well it'll be really hard to track his skin. He's real pink. Keeps getting redder for some reason.
Starting point is 00:30:29 You're going to have an aneurysm right on show. If you have an aneurysm, you win. This episode doesn't end until Wade has an aneurysm. No, one of us. We can both have an... Either of us could have an aneurysm. What if we both do? Is whoever has the better one?
Starting point is 00:30:46 I feel like that should be a general rule. If you have an aneurysm live during an episode recording, you win, so then we can proceed to the saving your life part of that. So don't, though. Yeah, don't. I think I want to instate whenever I'm host, if anyone just pees their pants at any moment in time, you automatically win that episode, no matter what has happening or you've mentioned that before what was in your it was in the episode you
Starting point is 00:31:10 did a bad episode ideas right i want to i want to toss that out there if you're like desperately losing no shot everything's gone wrong but you before i announced the winner piss yourself and can demonstrate proof of it you could steal a win right there but ask me before you announce the winner if i announce a winner and the episode is concluded you can't like reverse the decision with it but you can end an episode and steal the episode just by peeing your pants at any point in time okay okay another question what if one of us pisses our pants like 20 minutes in yeah and then the other one pisses 30 minutes in. Do they overwrite the initial pisser?
Starting point is 00:31:48 No, the second person's just wasting that piss. They're wasting the piss. Okay. Once you do that, the episode is concluded. You are the winner. And that makes me no longer the host. So the rule isn't in effect anymore. Yeah, you got to be FTP, the first piss.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And do you think we'll make it cool like in that Adam Sandler movie, Billy Madison, when he pisses himself and all the kids are like, that's so cool. Like the subreddit will be like, dude, I piss my pants now. Or do you think we'll be made fun of? I do not think that would be a good subreddit trend. I do not want to see a bunch of pictures of people pissing themselves on the subreddit. The rule stands. The rule is in play, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Does that mean an audience member could win? They'd have to be like on the call. We have to show proof that they did it while we're doing the episode. So if someone was like, they're going to try and there's like a guest in the call with us, they could be one of the only viewers in the entire history of the world to have a distractible victory outside of our trio. I look like I'm dead. You don't look super great. What are you doing? I didn't even, I was looking at something else. I was off topic while this was playing itself out. victory outside of our trio it looks like i'm dead you don't look super what are you doing i didn't even i was looking at something else i was off topic while this was playing itself out what
Starting point is 00:32:49 were you doing well i got the dark circle i'm kind of corpsey don't piss yourself and show us pictures it is it is the sterile white background you know i can fix it you know it's not even just that bob has the same type of background, but he looks just better. Thanks, man. Wow. That felt personal. That did. It felt more like it was less about the wall or the camera and more about the person.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I was ready to happily accept that, but I kind of- He's on a computer's webcam. That's true. I'm on a MacBook webcam. With like a two millimeter. Okay. Well, it's a MacBook. Well, it's high quality. I'm on a MacBook webcam. With like a two millimeter. Okay. Well, it's a MacBook. Well, it's high quality.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I will show you the camera. I can't because it is the camera. I will tell you about the camera I'm using one day. Yeah, I know. It's the one I recommended you seven years ago. And? Thank God they haven't invented any new cameras since then. Can't you tell I listened?
Starting point is 00:33:44 That's why it listens once never again he listened that's what people want that's what you gotta do you gotta listen and he did i see you and i hear you thank you do i win anyway it's 35 minutes into the episode or something approximately um should we talk about the topic yeah no mark makes a compelling argument we're at an impasse what should we talk about mark we should talk about um uh ai we could do that mac yeah uh um editing what about proper foam washing and drying techniques points to mark for trying to come up with something new and not just showing the same foam washing thing. Okay, what if I show you the backside of it?
Starting point is 00:34:30 You did that last time. All right, so today's topic. Wade had said something that I said was a good transition like 20 minutes ago now. Yeah! You were in a locker room and you saw lots of nuts. So today's topic is I saw an article and it made me think because the article was about, it's like a totally like trashy nonsense internet article, but it was about how apparently some people in the world brush their teeth with warm water or
Starting point is 00:34:57 hot water even. And the person writing the article was kind of like, what? That's weird. And I was like, that is weird. I was like that is weird i don't believe that any human would choose to brush their teeth with warm water that sounds that sounds weird and unpleasant but maybe i'm wrong and i want to talk about things that are like that that we might do wrong and wade's thing is a transition because i never i i was played sports my entire middle school high school career never had nuts in the locker room I'm not taking questions yet but you had nuts all around you is that normal or is it normal everyone in my in my locker rooms always like kept their boxers on and was very like modest and awkward about it I never went free-braining in the locker room and
Starting point is 00:35:42 like no one did well you guys were just naked doing naked locker room stuff i was the shy one who did not but we had dudes that were very comfortable just being completely naked we also had a member of our team who always took both pre-game and halftime dumps and during halftime we have a limited amount of time before you have to be back on it's not like you can just stay in there as long as you need to so there were many occasions where we had to have our team huddle around this person while they were on the toilet because the way that the toilets were set up in the locker room there was like the locker room with the lockers and then there was like the separate bathroom shower area and there was like i don't know if there were multiple stalls or not there was one stall that didn't have a door on like the right wall when you walked in from the locker section
Starting point is 00:36:28 and we would gather around him while he sat on the toilet and the coach would go over the plan for the second half while he was sitting there taking a shit you say he as if this is a specific dumper like the dumper of the day i believe i'm thinking of the same locker room and i do not remember this isolated stall i remember a bathroom with a broken stall door maybe that's what it was but you remember the door on the right but i but it was not it was in the bathroom like how would you huddle around it well you have less players on a basketball team than you do like other sports teams but oh you're talking inside i thought you were talking like the exterior locker room. No, no. Inside by the... I'm specifically thinking of, I believe it was Milford Junior High School's men's locker room.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Listeners, if you go to Milford Junior High School and you have access, if you're a guy and you can go in the men's locker room, check it out. I also still think he's bullshitting because I remember that one very vividly. And it's like, it's a square room with benches in an inner square. And it's like, hallway, door. Here's the lockers, lockers, lockers. Hallway, lockers, lockers, bench, doorway, shower room. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what it was.
Starting point is 00:37:41 This is what it was, okay? All right, this is it, right? Okay, this is a doorway in, into the, into, okay, no. This is what it was. This is what it was. Okay? Alright. This is it, right? Okay. This is the doorway in, into the, into, okay, the gymnasium. Okay, this was the gymnasium, right? The gymnasium. No, no. This is the gymnasium, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:55 This is the gymnasium. The bathroom, it was like, here was the men's locker room, right? But this is flatter. Don't think it... Take the battery off. Yeah yeah that'll fix it yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm already more confused by your diagram right so you go in and then the lockers were in like this square shape and then there was interior like benches here and then the showers were back here right so the same layout i said but sideways okay yeah
Starting point is 00:38:22 but my better i have a camera here oh in fact i have the camera you use yeah i was gonna say that looks like the camera that i'm pretty sure wade is currently filming on what's it called it's the uh sony ax 700 yes yeah it's a good one isn't it uh for only night vision now i used mine for that when i went ghost hunting do you even know how to turn the night vision on i did because i used it when we went ghost hunting you looked at the camera and i was like oh he's gonna flick it on well i could but you have to go to display like scroll down it's not that that's a bad camera but it's a camcorder versus like a dslr which is nowadays the superior imaging not because the camcorder is bad, like form factor wise,
Starting point is 00:39:06 it's the sensor size thing, right? So the sensor size in this one is only one inch, which is like not small compared to a phone camera. It's very large. But with the fixed lens and the style of lens, especially being an emphasis on zoom, it doesn't have a lot of like depth to the image because it's focus field is larger because it's a camera where it wants that. I get deep enough without needing my camera to compensate, Mark. Also, it's meant for user friendliness.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So the auto features are predominant and that's why yours has auto. What do you mean? I look great. Also, locker room, you're sideways. Where's the toilet in your diagram? I don't even remember where the toilets were. I don't think they had toilets. all of that to not even disagree i think no i don't see how people could huddle around a stall in that place points to mark for refusing to believe something
Starting point is 00:39:56 for almost no actual reason whatsoever look this is this is actually the perfect debate for you bob because we both went to the same place, but you didn't. So you have to be the arbitrary of what is true. And I'm telling you that you go into that locker room, you make a sharp turn, there's something on the left, there's lockers back there. I don't think there's a single bathroom. I don't think there's a single toilet. I think those heathens were shitting on the floor and pissing their pants okay they were but not because there weren't if you have any proof that way you think your team
Starting point is 00:40:32 could win the episode right now if i have any proof sorry i did not take photos of the junior high men's locker room while i was in there i mean that's probably smart yeah but yeah there's other content creators that do that kind of dumb shit. Not me. And hell, back then, who had a camera? That's also true. Actually, I don't think I had a cell phone when I was in junior high. I didn't. I didn't have a cell phone until high school, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:40:54 No, not in junior high. You made me forget entirely what the topic is. Oh, things we do wrong. I have one for me that's like super minor, but apparently you're supposed to shave in a certain way. And I never fucking learned that. I shave in every direction like i shave up my neck but then also down my neck or else i have a bunch of like stubble yeah or you're prickly this way you gotta shave like you should you have to
Starting point is 00:41:15 shave with the grain and against the grain you apparently you're only supposed to shave well apparently there's two camps you either shave with the grain or against it that's like the like the two options i just shave in every direction or else i have stubble everywhere look there's two camps. You either shave with the grain or against it. That's like the two options. I just shave in every direction or else I have stubble everywhere. Look, there's the extreme shaves and the extreme shave wrongs. We're the shave middles. We're the compromise. We shave both. Shave all. Exactly. Well, you guys clearly both don't spend a lot of time shaving anymore, but when you do shave... Oh, you use like an electric thing do you use a safety razor on your head i try to be safe you use an electric thing on your head you don't shave it like with a
Starting point is 00:41:52 razor like a normal prior to bearded wade i don't remember someone could look at my youtube channel tell me when i started doing the bearded thing but i used a shaving cream and a razor for many years on my face yeah well how'd you do that oh that looks against the grain that looked against the grain i did look kind of against the grain how does your hair lay i that's how i start whenever it's still like bushy i would go against the grain i think but once i got it like down to where it was almost smooth that's when i would go the other way to get rid of like the rough this way smooth that way i wanted to smooth both ways yeah so once i would clear it up one way that's when i'd go over the other way to get rid of like the rough this way smooth that way i wanted to smooth both ways yeah so once i would clear it up one way that's when i'd go over the other way to smooth it out both the thing
Starting point is 00:42:28 is i don't i don't even know because mine is such a scrabble face i don't think i have a grain i think it's all just in random directions it's just curly cubes everywhere i'm pretty sure if you get one of those little magnets like the dude that you can like move the iron to give him a beard if we just put one of those on you we could move your hair around your face look look look i have a question points to wade for making me giggle mark yes thank you i think the assumption that uh brushing with warm water as the weird thing was an incorrect take to begin with that's fair because i only brush with warm water is that real why wouldn't you you brush your teeth with warm water. Is that real? Why wouldn't you? You brush your teeth with warm water?
Starting point is 00:43:07 I don't like cold on my teeth. Cold on teeth hurts. Well, you know, when you brush your teeth, it's not like you have a mouth full of water, but like, I want my teeth brushing to be refreshing. Warm water mixed with mint for me is like, it tastes like tea. Like, it tastes like a minty tea, and that's not
Starting point is 00:43:23 refreshing. That makes my mouth feel gross. A mint tea is good. I don't know what you're talking about, but it's like, okay. So this is like a different desired goal for toothbrushing is my objective is to get it clean. And I know that the warmer the solution is, the more vigorous the reaction. Because what you're trying to do is essentially a chemical reaction as you're cleaning the fluoride and some people are very iffy about fluoride but fluoride chemically with your teeth enamel does rebuild it can't or it doesn't rebuild doesn't
Starting point is 00:43:58 replace the enamel but it it fortifies it right it's somehow exactly or something yeah imagine if it was like the surface it can help smooth out the surface gaps but it like as it, right? It somehow bonds to it or something. Yeah, imagine if it was like the surface, it can help smooth out the surface gaps, but as it degrades over time, it can't rebuild it back up. But there are advancing techniques. But I recently learned that the way teeth are made is a very fascinating science in and of itself. Like ceramic replaced?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Oh, you mean like how teeth grow in your body? How they actually grow, yeah. It's such an interesting thing. If you look into the microscopic detailing of teeth, there's like this lattice formation of lines that progressively, it looks like little welds going through your teeth and what it is, basically there are these cells that they, they have the material to make the enamel out of. And in another animals whose teeth regrow all the time, this happens all the time, but in, in humans, it grows once and then it's done. These little cells will just like run in a straight line, just a pure straight line until they run out of material and
Starting point is 00:44:53 then they'll die. And then a new cell will come in and it's just like, it's this constant overlapping of these just single cells. That's how your teeth are built. I mean, that's how your whole body's built. Single cells just building, building. But it's like just an army of these things just overlapping, constantly building on each other. It's like a 3D printer. It's fascinating how they're built. But it's like that's why it's so hard to repair because the entire process is basically deposition. Your body deposits the material on top of it and so that's that is what the fluoride is kind of repairing the structures that were built the microstructures
Starting point is 00:45:31 that were built by those things it's fascinating points to mark for tooth knowledge yeah i've got some ingenuity knowledge for you wait in well ingenuity wait what that's oh yes just like engineering or oh just wait give, give me a moment. I will preface this with I have brushed with cold and warm water and I don't really care either way. I don't mind either way. If the water's warm, brush and rinse. If the water's cold, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I won't sit around and wait for it to get hot. Flossing is also important. However, sometimes even despite flossing, if you go and have, let's say, a chicken teriyaki sandwich with some pepper and stuff in it and you're out for the day and you happen to look into a mirror and see that a big old chunk of pepper stuck in your teeth and you're like, man trying on new clothes to buy taking your pair of jeans you wore in and taking the tag of said jeans and using the tag as floss to get to the pepper and get the pepper out of your teeth that's not the same width as floss at all well it got in there and it got the pepper but i would not ever recommend it to anyone ever. It worked. No, I thought you were going to say you scraped your teeth with something made of metal. And I was going to be
Starting point is 00:46:49 like, oh yeah, you shouldn't do that. What you did is so much worse. Hey, that tag, it's like you split it in half. And that one little side of the fabric was basically dental floss thickness. It was so close. Did it hurt shoving it in there? Nope. I got a good-sized gap between a couple of my teeth. It's just, unfortunately, I doubt it was clean, you know, having been on my sweaty lower back all day. I'm not even worried about that. That just seems like a terrible thing to do to your teeth, physically speaking. Probably that, too.
Starting point is 00:47:18 That's why I'm sharing it. In my ingenuity, it works, but you shouldn't try this at home or out in public. You know, if you have a big enough piece of pepper that you can physically see it couldn't you just like take your fingernail and like it was just deep enough to where even my thumbnail couldn't get in there if the moral of the story is take it from us old guys uh take care of your teeth don't have team huddles around toilets it did happen and it shouldn't have if you remember in your past toilets that don't exist,
Starting point is 00:47:46 you might have teleported to another universe. So do you guys do anything else wrong? Or is this a totally, is the topic just moot today? Contact lenses. I do contacts wrong. So contact lenses, when they teach you to put contact lenses in, I believe they teach you to like one finger to put it in. Yeah, you go like this.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I don't know, like this. And you have it on your finger and you go. So I brace it like one finger to put it in yeah you go like this i don't know like this and you have it on your finger and you go so i brace it between two fingers to put it in so that way it doesn't like fold or collapse on me because sometimes it's collapsing so i just kind of brace it between these two what do you hold your eyelids with my ring finger i mean that's not like dangerous or anything that's just a weird is this why you do the microphone thing i dude i do this all the time did you just do this to get me to do this wayne does everything with two fingers. He gets on the elevator and he's like, boom. Despite working in an eye place and knowing that I shouldn't do this as well,
Starting point is 00:48:32 I also do the pinch maneuver to get my contacts out. Oh, you're super not supposed to do that. That's awful. You're supposed to get it and pull it off of your iris so that it becomes unstuck and then grab it. I go in and i squeeze and plop you could you could scrape your your cornea and damage the surface of your eye if you pinch and you get the the edges of the contact to scrape on your eyeball that's horrible you sure can you ask if i do things wrong i'm telling you i do listen this guy i'm saying that's totally fine
Starting point is 00:49:02 no it's not wrong i say it's not wrong because I did that all the time I have perfect eyes now And you know what they said You have to have laser surgery to fix your busted ass eyes Yeah but under it The top was pristine The top was pristine Because every day every night I would pinch
Starting point is 00:49:20 In a different orbital rotation All 360 degrees So your scratches are all even so your vision is evenly distorted all around exactly exactly i god i have to think about it because i know i probably do so many things wrong my entire life and this is kind of just like everything you say i'm like i think that's normal no it's not a bit though i'm you do actually brush with warm water yeah i thought that i thought we were going to be like, warm water. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:47 No, I've done that, too. I don't mind it. I've done it. It's gross. I find it really gross. It's a logical thing. Cold reactions are slower. They're physically slower.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I mean, but the core of the toothbrushing process is the mechanical interaction. There's not that much fluoride in toothpaste. It's not like a fluoride in toothpaste. It's not like a fluoride treatment at the dentist where you want it. The fluoride is like a bonus, but the mechanical brushing and the mechanical abrasion that you get from it is the main thing that you benefit from toothbrushes.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But actually science is starting to say the amount of mechanical abrasion, especially in electronic toothbrushes nowadays, are causing erosion of gum because that's what i encounter you need to not brush your gums too much yeah well yeah and that's the thing is like people with electronic toothbrushes like the the thing is and this is a hard habit to kick is because you want to like you know like a toothbrush when you're a kid learning just brushing manually you should not do that with an electronic toothbrush because that will cause much more abrasion because electronic toothbrushes just need to be applied with the lightest pressure just one tooth two tooth is three two fizzes you gotta do it you gotta do
Starting point is 00:50:54 it like the dentists do right they have it's not the same but they have those little like the little thing yeah and when they brush your teeth with that thing they're all and that's it they brush your tooth they brush the one tooth and then they go to the next one and that's like the whole thing which is such a more logical way to do it and when i started doing that i'm like oh there's so much more efficient then i know i got everything i go one two three four five one two three four five one two three i do it and then inside and outside or i just do a slow pass yeah i do like a slow like catch him as i drive by type of motion but yeah like the car wash but for your teeth exactly hey we actually agree on something wade i came into this thinking
Starting point is 00:51:33 that the hot water toothbrush was going to be a weird thing that we you changed my mind mark points to mark for expanding my world view on teeth but what else would be weird and wrong you freaking weirdo i so many things i i imagine i'm just trying to like remember what they are i don't know how gross this is it involves feet from playing basketball having my feet stepped on all the time uh playing sports and whatnot i started getting like ingrown toenails on my like big toe on my left foot so whenever you go to trim your toenail they tell you to trim it like a flat straight surface but it would grow back and immediately start having pain from ingrown toenail again so i i did the curved thing where it's like i clip it flat and i clip extra here to have more time of not ingrown toenail and i've kept up that trend because fucking hurts when you have an ingrown
Starting point is 00:52:19 toenail so i clip my toenails incorrect in order to prevent pain longer. I don't know why being doing sports causes that, but football caused me to have the ingrown toenail thing. And I, yeah, it sucks. It hurts. It hurts a lot. And I could probably have something done to have it permanently fixed,
Starting point is 00:52:35 but I found that just trimming them wrong helps. I had a manager. I worked at a pizza place in college and I had a manager who worked there who, he was like pretty athletic dude. I think he played basketball he was like a college-aged guy and um one time he came in and had like a big you know like a soft boot for like when you break your foot type of thing on his foot and he was like limping around and everyone was kind of like oh shit oh what happened and I talked to him and I
Starting point is 00:52:59 was like dude are you all right you like you know you have an accident or something? He's like, I have an ingrown toenail that's so bad that I have to have surgery on it. Jesus. So I don't know what exactly happened to him, but apparently they can be quite bad. Well, I imagine all the infection that can happen from just having a toenail causing your foot to hurt and bleed all the time. Yeah. Anywho. Mark,
Starting point is 00:53:20 did you think of anything we can mock you about? I'm trying to look up like a list of... Don't worry, Mark? I'm trying to look up like a list of- Don't worry, Mark. I've got one more to fill the time. Points to Wade for keeping the action. No, hey, hold on. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So whenever I was younger and thought I was going to go to law school, whenever you meet a lot of law people, it's very official with like official sturdy handshakes and stuff. I had this little wart between my ring finger and my pinky finger. It's like sitting right there. For some reason, young teenage me was like, if I ever meet a lawyer or a judge who's left-handed and they go to shake my hand and they possibly feel that wart, they're going to be grossed out, weirded out. I got to get rid of this thing. How do you get rid of a wart? I don't know. I know i know toenail clippers and tweezers so i use toenail clippers and tweezers to cut it rip out the little seed thing keep it flat and
Starting point is 00:54:13 uh yeah flush and i did that to myself mutilating my own hand to get rid of it but look how silky smooth and nice it is now you can't even tell i feel like i can kind of see it i don't like that you did that but i have to say bigger bigger thing that i think you're doing wrong there which hand do you shake when you meet someone right unless they're left-handed and they reach out first and i have to meet them no it doesn't change maybe this is me being traditional and maybe this is not true you always shake right hands i am left--handed, so this applies to me. Nobody shakes left hands when you meet them.
Starting point is 00:54:50 When you meet someone, you offer your right hand to shake it. When you get your diploma, when you graduate from high school or college, you offer your right hand to shake and you take your diploma with your left hand. You always shake right hands. Is that a thing? I didn't know that at 16 years old, if that's true. Have you ever shaken a person's left hand. You always shake right hands. Is that a thing? I didn't know that at 16 years
Starting point is 00:55:05 old, if that's true. Have you ever shaken a person's left hand? Did that ever come up? I don't know, but I can tell you I worried about it and I cleaned it up. So if I ever meet someone and shake your left hand, you won't feel a weird creepy bump. You're welcome. I had this thing also where it was like, I, for some reason, like someone apologized to me for something, but my right hand was dirty. And I, I literally had this thought and I think I said out loud, like, oh, sorry, my right hand's dirty, but all right. Apology accepted.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And I extended my left hand and I think he intrinsically understood what I meant by my right hand's dirty. So I'm apologizing for accepting this apology with my left hand. But why did I do that? I don't know what basis I had for the knowledge of like, because you're supposed to shake with your right hand. Yeah, it was like something where I was like, a left-handed shake is disingenuous or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's what my thought was. I think it was probably just a gut reaction of you're used to shaking with your right hand. And then like the thought came, oh, I can use this hand. So you started to apologize for not doing it. But then halfway through, you found a solution. And it wasn't an apology for using your right hand and then like the thought came oh i can use this hand so you started to apologize for not doing it but then halfway through you found a solution and it wasn't an apology for using your left hand but for the fact that your right was dirty i think that this is just a good opportunity to say that people who use their left hand as their predominant hand left-handed people are just wrong in their day-to-day life so i want to say that as a bro whoa what what what points to mark of standing up to the man yeah see i amy is left-handed and i i have to deal with this oh i can't use my right
Starting point is 00:56:34 that's nonsense every day i wake up i'm so sorry you have to deal with this go on mark expound what other grievances do you have about amy this seems like a great place to talk about them all right okay i don't know i don't have any grievances about amy but i i i did want to like talk about like something that probably is divisive but to such a small subset of people that when me saying this and especially coming from like where i am and saying it will make some people unfeasibly mad like well you could be saying that about any statement you're about to make in the in the english lexicon is that's not impressive i don't believe in doing foley for audio i can't believe you'd say that what What does that mean? Don't let him have a pass on this one. I have mixed feelings already.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I think Foley is an outdated and archaic method of doing sound design, and it actively holds back productions because Foley artists, who are extremely talented, and that skill itself is useful, but doing Foley for movies as a standard of quality for it's not good until you do Foley is nonsense in the era where there is a plethora of incredibly well-recorded by Foley artists sound packs that are to an extent like vastly more useful and transformative and usable than having your own in-studio Foley artist. You phrase it in a way that sounds more incendiary than it is. What you're saying is bespoke Foley for every production is a waste of time. Yes. When you're still essentially saying use Foley. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Just use pre-recorded stuff because the quality of that is so good. It is good enough. Vote for Mark. He'll eliminate jobs. He is here for us. Listen, the union would never let you eliminate a job in the film and TV industry. So they don't have to worry about that. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:58:38 We had, you know, did I talk about the job of like the playback recorder? Yeah, you did. Okay. You're not allowed to touch the thing. have to touch the thing yeah i am not besmirching audio recorders and foley artists i do believe that that is an extremely valuable skill but it is like waiting to be like oh yeah well this has got to go through foley before anything and i'm like no it doesn't they did that work already and you have a million sound packs of unbelievable audio recording from Foley artists everywhere possible in every sound
Starting point is 00:59:10 environment. You do not all with like you, you buy it and you can use it. You're the kind of, that's how the licensing is set up. And it's like, you don't need to like, because here's what it is. The reason I think it's archaic is because when you have these studios that have like a specific Foley artist with their own little bay in there in the mixing area, whatever it is or whatever. It doesn't matter how robust their setup is. They cannot replicate the plethora of sound environments that you you could need for your movie. They only have what they have, which is a lot, and it's a lot of very useful stuff, but they do not have the going out to external locations fully. They do not have those sounds recorded. They do not have design sounds, which are sometimes, and I, this is a big thing
Starting point is 00:59:59 about me, just because something's real doesn't mean it's better for that moment. Just because a sound is authentically what a firecracker going off is or a gunshot going off is does not mean it's the right sound for that moment. Well, and that's not really what Foley is either. They use a lot of real stuff to make real sounds, but it's not a one-to-one analog. Like they use sand instead when they're doing snow or they use... Of course. use sand instead when they're doing snow or they use like there's a lot of substitutes because you're right. The sound of someone walking on wet snow is really not a sound at all as compared to like that crunchy snow sound, you know, from a movie. Absolutely. Yeah. And I completely agree
Starting point is 01:00:35 with that. There are some different sources. What I'm talking about is like in a deeper level of audio design where there is this belief that if you record one sound, even if you do multiple sounds, so long as it's recorded live in that moment, it's perfect for it. Whereas in today's digital editing age, you can layer so many complex sounds and like really narrow down into the frequencies of the exact things you want.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You can even specify the resonance that you want between your different sounds if you so choose. And it's like that allows for such a vastly more complex tapestry of sound that could be done quicker than waiting for Foley. What a brave take. You're a brave boy. How could you say something so bold? You're probably right. I don't know. I don't make many movies. I don't completely disagree with you, but I will say without understanding the nuanced physics of
Starting point is 01:01:24 sound and sound recording, there are things where I would think you're not able to capture, and this is something that you might not even be able to hear as a person watching a movie, even in a high quality theater with the highest quality speaker setup you could have. Maybe you can't hear the difference, but there is a difference physically is if you have like you have a specific sound right maybe you have a chain falling onto a snow-covered ground with a very specific type of setup right and if you're making that digitally using real sounds you need the crunch of the snow you would need the clang of the chain maybe a couple versions of that you would need some other auxiliary sounds
Starting point is 01:02:02 to like flesh it out something i don't know you would need layers of auxiliary sound to like flesh it out, something. I don't know. You would need layers of things. It wouldn't capture the same type of sound as the actual chain dropping onto an actual surface. You could get close enough that no one would be able to ever tell the difference. But there might, if you're like an auteur making cinema and you're doing something and you're making this piece of art, and you're doing something and you're making this piece of art, I totally get why you would prefer maybe a Foley artist to perform that in a specific way to capture all the nuance of all the different things you want in that sound. But that really doesn't apply to a lot of productions.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Cinema and movies, if we're going to split it apart like that, don't need that same level of stuff. And that's really more of like an artist's preference versus I think you're right. For most movies and TV productions, you get everything you need using packs and blending and making your own things. Because Foley is a whole other past. Like in one of the things about editing, and you know this better than I do, is it's like layers, right's like a first pass and then there's a there's a you know there's another editing pass and then there's like effects passes and then there's color stuff like there's so many people where you go over the same footage over and over and over foley just adds more steps
Starting point is 01:03:18 to that where it's like we've done 13 passes on this scene now we gotta wait for another person to do another pass where they're recording the Foley sounds or whatever. I, we didn't talk about this for anyone who doesn't know Foley refers to a person in a studio who has like a bucket of water and they watch a playback of a footage and they splash the water and record the sound to capture audio to go with a sound that's happening in a movie.
Starting point is 01:03:43 If you don't know what it is, that's basically what Foley is. Yeah. I'm sure a lot of people will think your take is uh spicy though i do think that there will be um but also just like understand that i know me saying this sounds very youtubery but i do a lot of sound design i do an exceptional amount of sound design and i love audio that's why i'm saying these inefficiencies need to get gone. There's so there's such a wide tapestry of sound that I people I feel like people are held back by because they are holding on to like these archaic forms of doing things. You know, it's equally archaic when you are at like a dinner place and you get a glass
Starting point is 01:04:21 of wine and they pour just like a splash. And they're like, is this good for you? And it's like, do I drink it? Do I spoil and spit it? Do I just smell it? Do I just look at it? And it's like, I just want to drink the wine, man. Just pour it.
Starting point is 01:04:33 But these like Foley wine pourers are there. Foley ass wine. For these archaic people who think they can taste a difference from a 1968 Moscato versus a 1971, and it's like, just give me the Moscato, man. So, can I say, I don't know, I'm sure you're right for the motivations for doing that in most contexts.
Starting point is 01:04:56 It is important to do that to make sure the bottle of wine's not skunked, though. I have, we have had a bottle of wine at a restaurant come out that was just like a bad bottle. And when you do the test initially and you smell it and you're like, it gives you a chance to say like, hey, I think this wine is spoiled or something. I don't even know what you're supposed to do. You drink it.
Starting point is 01:05:16 You're supposed to drink it and make sure that it tastes OK. Some people like swirl it and like smell it and then they like spit it and stuff. I'm just like, thanks. it and like smell it and then they like spit it and stuff i'm just like thanks wait if you want to pretend to be civilized the way that you taste wine a basic approach is you take the glass as it as it's poured you smell you get that smell you swirl it because when you aerate it the smell is going to change and it also will affect the flavor so you aerate it a little bit you look at it because the color you don't if you don't it doesn't matter. But then you smell it again and then you drink it. And that's it. You don't
Starting point is 01:05:48 spit it out. Okay. Smell, look, swirl, look, smell, taste. Yeah. I imagine you're looking for like floating bits. What an unnecessary couple of passes. In red wine there's a color, a blue color at the edge of the wine on the glass that can happen
Starting point is 01:06:04 that tells you something about how old the wine is and if it's ready or not. The way the line runs down the glass, which is called the legs of the wine, tells you something about how thick it is because wine can be thicker or thinner, which gives it a different like taste and feel because it'll coat your tongue more or it won't coat your tongue. It doesn't matter. You're tasting the wine and smelling the wine to see if it's spoiled. 90% of of that and that's why it's the same thing as what mark was saying foley wine bad god points to mark for making wade's point for him thank you something else i do wrong you know is uh everything oh babe come on i do so many things just in such a roundabout way to come
Starting point is 01:06:46 to conclusions that other people have come to already because i did this with hard drives you know i i probably talked about my hard drive escapades what no you never talk about technology right okay well this is specifically like i don't know enough about storage right so i don't know about you know nasa's too much and i don't know like how like server infrastructure works so i started learning and then you know i i go through like whatever the equivalent of the five stages of grief are in terms of like five stages of thinking i'm better than everybody else that's what i go through do you go through that learning process really like cocky new person who thinks they know
Starting point is 01:07:24 everything to slowly realizing that you don't know anything and it's all hard and more complicated than you thought? Yeah, but then I do an upturn again where I come back to like, no, wait, I was a genius all along. This is all dumb and I'm smart. Because I did that with Ardor's where I was like, I get the solution that doesn't work. I get another solution that doesn't work. I start to learn. I'm angry. I think everything's dumb. I get the solution that does work, but it doesn't work well enough. Therefore,
Starting point is 01:07:48 I think the entire industry is dumb and it needs to change. And then I get another solution that I think from my deduction will work better. It doesn't work better. And then I think I'm dumb because I'm like, oh, I had a solution that worked. It just didn't work as well as I wanted it to. And then I come full circle and I go, no, it can be better if I build my own. This is like a 12 step parabola of you. It is. And I literally am at this stage now where I'm looking up contract manufacturing to build. Not I'm not joking. I'm looking up in my spare time contract manufacturing
Starting point is 01:08:25 to build both pc boards with thunderbolt controllers and u.2 nvme uh interfaces to be able to create an inbuilt raid array because i'm like there is no four bay u.2 drive in a compact form factor and this is ridiculous and why does anyone stand for this i think we should start lobbying our politicians that's where i'm at right now i'm like this is ungodly how can people sleep when this gap in the market exists dear viewers if you are in america call your senator call your representative today see if we can get this problem taken care of. I know. I'm just saying because that's what happens is like every single small thing that I ever encounter in my life goes through the same process where I'm like, I don't know it. I think I know it. I think I know
Starting point is 01:09:16 it better. I don't know it at all. I do know it better and I can prove it. And then I don't do anything about it. You just go back to that middle step where it worked okay and you use that yeah that's what i do well it works okay mark so that's all right it works really well in comparison to what the previous state of being was but when i can see the potential of what it is and how everyone is dumb around me i don't know how i can live i would like to request points for Mark's parabola. Points to both of you on that one. Yeah, have the points go flow through Wade and then come back to me. But then they've got to flow back to me in the end because it's a parabola. Points to Wade for being smarter than Mark, but then points to Mark for realizing he's actually smarter, but then
Starting point is 01:09:58 points to Wade for actually being smarter than Mark, but then points to Mark for realizing that no, he was right all along and he knows the best way to do it. But then points to Wade for Mark actually going back and just using Wade's ultimate solution that he came up with originally, but then points to Mark for being so bold as to call out Foley artists. What about wine? I call out all the wine industry, all those wine snobs out there. I think they're better than you because they can smell some grapes. Like what a skill. Look, I happen to live in wine country for a few years there and i don't like wine like i'm not that guy but they do smell and taste different and i i've never drank a wine that i thought was worth a lot of money because it was really good but it's not
Starting point is 01:10:40 bullshit snobbery for someone who has a really good palate to be able to tell the difference welcome back to ohio where you buy one of the three bottles they have at the store and you drink it wait you live in a city with with a store with one of the most interesting wine collections that has weekly wine tastings added in the area oh jungle gyms yeah literally they have a better wine collection than a lot of the places out where we lived in California probably did. Because we lived in a little valley, not in like Napa or something. Yeah, I usually don't get the wine. I usually bypass it to find a good cider or I don't buy it at all and I leave.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Because I like the candy section more because I'm 12 years old. So you're a connoisseur. I see. Oh, yeah, dude. How do you think I chipped a tooth eating airheads? I'm a candy connoisseur. Top of the line. What I'm getting is all of us do everything wrong.
Starting point is 01:11:27 But we think we're right, and then we're wrong, but we still think we're right. And because of that, the true hero of this episode, and I think the deserved winner, also based on the points that I gave out pretty arbitrarily, would be Mark. I was about to say I was pissing myself. Did you? Did you do it? No, no, I didn't. But winner's been declared, right?
Starting point is 01:11:48 So I didn't need to? No, yeah, winner's been declared. Except for the fact that I have a handshake deal with Bob where I can steal a win. Is that true? I don't remember. And I choose to use it now. Do we have an outstanding one where you get to... I thought you used that one.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I can just take a win whenever I want to. That is the deal. I have won. Is that true? And if Mark's just going to go back to me anyway, then I think I should have this win. I think he's right. I will say, if you're making this up
Starting point is 01:12:17 and you don't actually have an outstanding handshake deal, the punishment will be quite severe. No, fingers crossed. I'm owed one. I think he has a win steal in play mark i've been sitting on it he has it's been a long time feels good to finally exercise the subreddit's been eagerly anticipating this moment and i had to wait for the right one the last time i wanted wanted to use it, Mark, you were all like, oh, my eyes are red.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Grandma's dead. Life sucks. And I was like, man, that'd be mean to use it now. So I waited. And now, now is my time to shine. Wade wins! I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna pee my pants.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I'm gonna do it right here on camera. I'm doing it. No, I'm not doing it right here on camera. I'm doing it. No, I'm not doing it. Please, because the winner was already announced and it wouldn't have counted. Save that, Mark. Keep that in the chamber. You could steal a win back from him.
Starting point is 01:13:16 You're right. Mark, do you want to give your surprise loser speech? The best losses in life are surprises, just like my grandma what a shock so thank you so much for being here the best losses in life
Starting point is 01:13:34 you can't say that you made this happen Wade you made this happen I appreciate I didn't kill your grandma oh how do I know i don't know the facts so that'd be a hell of a butterfly how did i know you didn't have a handshake deal with the grim reaper you know i just think that anything could happen at this point you never leave the room mark you never know what kind of deals might get struck while you're gone
Starting point is 01:14:00 better stick around buddy god we should have just made a handshake deal while Bob was away. I just never think to betray in that way. You guys making a handshake deal while I'm talking like an idiot about my, where's my cable running around my house would have been. Will retroactively make a devastating handshake deal occur in the shadows of Bob's departure. Don't make Will do more editing. You guys have already made him do enough this episode. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Wade, you want to give your totally deserved winner speech? I do. I'd like to start by showing here's where Mark thought he won. Here's where he realized he didn't. Here's where he saw that I won. Here's where he tried to piss to get it back. And here's where I ultimately came out on top.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Just almost out of frame. Well, congratulations, Wayne. You really showed Mark. You really put him in his place. You really gave him what he needed and deserved today. There were people out there, that one guy on the subreddit who thought I would never exercise my right to steal a win. There's two things I remember.
Starting point is 01:15:05 To hold up one finger when I say two things and Shakira and one win I could steal. Okay, well that's plenty of episode for this recording session. Mark, no loser speech. You just lose. He gave a loser speech. Oh, I didn't listen. I was too busy winning. You did listen. It was the
Starting point is 01:15:21 grandma thing. Oh, it was so horrible I blocked it out. Thank you so much for watching or listening to this episode make sure you check out our merch it's door. destructible podcast.com mark is markiplier wait is lord minion 777 or minion 777 i am my skirm and god help us all this one is over thank you for being here make sure you come back next time podcast out

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