Distractible - Faster or Slower?
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Moderator Mark manifests industrialism and emissions,
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It's time for Faster or Slower. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted
and enjoy the show.
Hello and welcome to another agreeable episode
of the Distractable Podcast,
where we all nod in agreement,
no matter
what is being said. I am your host, my name is Bob, I am hosting because I won
the last one. I won the last one by competing in it which is what Mark and
Wade, the other two guys here, will be doing and then one of them will win and
they'll host and then we'll all just keep nodding. The nodding is an important part of the show.
We do this in every episode.
90% of everything we've ever put on the internet
involves a lot of nodding.
The listeners never actually knew
that this was occurring all the time.
It was our first time acknowledging it.
We actually hold up signs that say viewers,
don't tell the stupid listeners about the nodding
I feel like a pigeon pecking at seeds
is anyone else going slowly blind?
it's doing something to my vision yeah
it is oddly uncomfortable yeah
it's making my eyes water is that good?
yeah I don't know why that would be happening but it sure is happening
it's... eugh
can you get concussed from nodding?
probably yeah you can
I'll bet disagreeing feels better
You know, they say if you smile, you know, you'll start to feel happy. I thought I would feel agreeable. I'm oh god
If the audience if the listener had to guess which one of the two of them are doing something horrifying
Yep, it was Wade.
Smiling man, what do you mean?
Oh, I was glad it wasn't me because I was just confused and doing what I normally do.
Someone please post that screenshot to the subreddit with no context.
Just no- everyone actually. Everyone's spam that picture so suddenly.
There's like a hundred of that.
Oh, the mods are gonna love that.
Ah, it's okay.
I'm a mod, I approve.
Also, did I miss the green memo?
It's St. Patrick's Day.
It's after St. Patrick's Day.
By a reasonable margin.
Not only is it already not St. Patrick's Day,
but this is definitely not St. Patrick's Day.
Look, my shirt application on a daily basis is in complete pitch darkness.
So I never know what shirt I'm grabbing.
I open my drawer, I fumble around to like grab something that, and I'll pick
up, be like, no, I don't like this one.
And I'll put it back and then I'll get one that's agreeable.
You don't hang your shirts?
Some of them, but I don't have to hang your t-shirts? Yeah. Why? What are they fancy? No, it's more convenient to
grab. He is right. Less folding. I mean you don't have to fold as much, you just put a
hanger on it. Vertical storage is superior for clothing. But you have to
hang it. That's faster than folding to me. Look, this is maybe, maybe not a problem
that you normal-sized humans have, but is maybe, maybe not a problem that you normal size humans have,
but my shirts, literally,
if I don't have the right kind of hangers,
my t-shirts don't hang, they fall off.
If I have like a slippery hanger,
like just a smooth plastic hanger,
my neck holes are so big that they barely even stay on.
I'm enormous.
Oh, mine just sit on a hanger.
I'm like an elephant.
I need special storage for my things.
I apologize for all the things you've smelled when we've hung out.
Elephants do, elephants have a good sense of smell, right?
We've talked about that.
Didn't you teach us they had the best?
Uh, that sounds like a thing I would say, yeah.
Mmm.
Mmm.
Mmm.
I'm not nodding anymore.
I'm not nodding anymore.
That really does mess with me. Also, I do feel bad. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm She keeps to be healing up okay. We might need to do chemo or something else as a follow-up,
but like she's got a lot of energy.
She's eating, she's happy,
aside from her leg I think being kind of sore,
but she's okay.
I'm sorry I left everyone in the unawares.
It's okay, and thank you.
I saw people talking about that on the separate,
I appreciate it.
In getting older news, I have a question for you guys.
No, my balls don't touch the water in the toilet yet
We don't worry about that. That's gonna happen. It's coming why in Europe
They have like less water in the toilet because they're all older than us
That's why they call men over the age of 65 soggy sex never heard that term. It's common. It's common
Different getting older question in your in your in your late
Different getting older question in your in your in your late stage of life
As we enter the the final trimester of our existence
Any of you get this overwhelming urge for industry
industry like like personal industry or like no in a factory an assembly line
Factorio style I did play Satisfactor right is that right?
So that's what I think because I I was looking at CNC the computer numeric control
Now we all know what you mean, and I was like oh not for me
That's too complicated, and then I went ah 3d printing there's a thing I know and ever since I've been looking at 3d printing and since you know
Prusa so kindly sent me an unbelievable amount of printers an unbelievable amount of printers yeah
yeah didn't you say you had some extras for your old buddy Bob no No! Okay. They're all mine! My industry.
No, I've had this overwhelming desire just to see like an entire factory floor
churning out product after product after product
and me overseeing it on a big catwalk up above, you know, clang, boom, clang,
sipping my really fancy decaf coffee because I don't drink caffeine right now.
Mmm, mmm. And then looking upon my works, my industry. sipping my really fancy decaf coffee, because I don't drink caffeine right now.
And then looking upon my works, my industry.
The end of you get that overwhelming urge.
Dude, you're like five years away
from just becoming an oil baron, I don't know.
That's what I mean.
If I was in another era, I might, well, probably not,
but I might be industrious.
We're gonna see you in a suit with like a fancy cane
and a monocle before this podcast is done.
You ever have an urge to see the lower class working very hard to produce materials for me
Yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. No, I I don't know is maybe it's like, you know
Since I ordered pants for the first time in a few years, like I've been wearing pants every day with a belt
Never mind, I don't have a belt on today. Oh, let me suck that back in
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They have one. It's a little older than what new ones are.
And I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, but I've never done any resin printing ever.
And I've heard a lot of things about resin printing that are, it's basically toxic.
The fumes are hard to mitigate.
It just gets messy because it's liquid
So you have to you have to deal with the liquid that's in the vat after the print
You do not want to ingest resin, but however the snack resinettes are fine. I love resonance. I'll print you some resinettes
I'll send them to your house. Show me a video of you. I want the little wrinkly ones
I'll get them real wrinkly for you. But the thing about resin printing is a high barrier to entry, but the quality of print
is incredibly higher than what FDM printing, which is just the plastic melted extrusion.
It can do pretty much invisible layer lines.
It can print like actual miniatures for like D&D figures with incredible quality.
It would look like you bought it from the store, you know,
and you can make them all yourself.
And who knows, that's probably how they make them nowadays,
but you could do that at home if you can tackle that.
So not only do I wanna make an industrial military complex,
I want to have fumes pumping out the ceiling.
I want like a SimCity ass,
like big smokestack pumping out resin fumes into the ceiling. I want like a Sim City ass, like big smoke stack pumping out resin fumes into the sky.
Like every few minutes a skull and crossbones forms
in the fumes that are coming out of the stack
on the Mark factory.
I want to make a product that you put over like a campfire
and it just pumps out a skull and crossbones.
Now I will say with fireworks they could probably do that.
Maybe they could do it with smoke.
I've even been to the WEBN fireworks.
Cincinnati has a radio station called WEBN
and they do, well you two know,
but I'm talking for everyone else.
They do the big fireworks show every September,
but like they spell out WEBN.
So I'm sure there's a way to do that with smoke.
I know that's a real thing,
but something about the way you said WEBN
made me think you were having some kind of stroke
or something. W-E-B-N. W-E-B-N made me think you were having some kind of stroke or something.
W-E-B-N? W-E-B-N. It's just like a human normal. You know what? Anywho, if anyone knows resin
printing out there, again, I've never done it before. If you have some printer that can
point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. One of the few times I'll take suggestions
because this is... Canon inkjet? No. Canon PIXMA 925. Oh God, no. Inkjet printer copier scanner.
Canon ligma 69. I know that Formlabs is like the top tier, but that's so ungodly expensive
that I don't want to.
So if there's another one,
I've heard good things about Heygears.
So if anyone knows, let me know.
All right, well, Mark's interests
stay the exact same again.
This is crazy.
I, on the other hand, have something new
to bring to the table.
Hey, what the hell,
what are you doing?
I'm not supposed to be here.
I've never done this before.
What are you talking about? What's going on? It finally happened what happened three of the people that watch
this that care about sports the Bengals opened their wallets and spent money
finally for the first time in their history and we got our two receivers
resigned and it didn't chase this contract like the biggest for a non QB in the
history of sports? By 0.25 of a million, otherwise known as 250,000 a year. How
much? Because I actually was talking to Tyler about one of the biggest non Q
quarterback. Four years, 161 million dollars for Chase. And T was four years, 115 or
something? 113, 115, something like that. His comes to like 28 million a year.
Chase is just over 40 million a year.
And like Chase's is like guaranteed for a lot of it
and T Higgins is guaranteed for two years, I think.
But I think there's other provisions in T's contract
where he can earn a little bit more than 28
if he hits certain incentives.
Whereas I think Chase is just, he's getting 40.25.
This is crazy because I actually did talk to Tyler about this and that does go
past the really recently former highest paid non quarterback,
which was Cleveland,
Miles Garrett with his $160 million expenses. So yeah,
it's like 0.5 million above that one. That's crazy.
Ohio's spending.
Miles Garrett did not do himself many favors reputation wise,
but he will be living great financially.
He spent the first half of the year like I am not playing in Cleveland.
They could offer me every dime on the planet.
I want out. I want to play for a contender.
What about 40 million? I love Cleveland.
I've always said I love Cleveland. I can't wait for the next football season to start and we can watch both of these great Ohio football clubs just win and win all of these hundreds of millions of dollars.
They're expending onto these four people. If you include the quarterback in Cleveland, which I have no idea what's going to happen with the Deshaun Watson
situation, but he gets his money either way pretty much. So all of these
literally half a billion dollars almost totally going to bring us some super
bowls, like five or six super bowls in the next decade. Well, we know Miles
Garrett's going to want to sack Joe burrow. The way to keep him away is Joe keeps a couple extra dollars on his pocket and he just throws a dollar on the field
and Miles will tackle that instead. Because it's about winning championships, not the doll.
Ooh money? Hey do you think if we spent nearly 300 million on two receivers we're gonna have
enough money to buy anyone who plays defense or is that just gonna be kind of empty field for the
other team? They're apparently talking to Trey Hendrickson
who's our best defensive player they're apparently talking about resigning him
and then we do have all the draft picks. I wish I had the kind of money to pay
people to play sports Jesus Christ. We need a couple people in the secondary
maybe another D end and we need a guard those are kind of our knees right now I
think so. Why don't we just take Ohio, cannoli that shit,
and have both teams meet in Columbus,
who has no football team right now,
and just sandwich them in.
The Clea-Fle-Nate Brown Tigers?
I do not want to merge with Cleveland.
They can stay, can we go with literally anyone else?
No, no, no, just the football team.
Just the football team.
We're not merging the city.
Here's how I feel about Cleveland.
I would rather us merge with Pittsburgh than Cleveland.
How about for 140 million a year?
I love Cleveland.
I'm sure that it was all a ruse to get the big contract,
or maybe there was truth to it that changed.
Maybe he realized how annoying it would be
to hold out and stuff, I don't know.
But just the dedication in his voice to wanting to be on a contender
to like immediately being like, richest non quarterback ever, you say?
Well, I'll play here.
I've never, not that I've ever had aspirations to win a Super Bowl
that I've meaningfully pursued, but I find it hard to imagine a thing
that you could want in life enough to where if someone was like
Hey, if you work for us and don't win very many football games for the next four years
But you get paid enough money that you don't ever need to worry about money
No matter what you do almost ever again?
Maybe you wanna?
I feel like I can't imagine a person who would be like, no, I need a Super Bowl.
I couldn't possibly take $140 million.
Like what the, I mean, maybe it's different.
I'm not an athlete.
I don't understand.
I've never had, like it was never realistic that I was gonna win Super Bowl or go to the Olympics or whatever
But who could possibly I can do that. I can't imagine look
Yeah, there's there's many things that you know money can't buy
But at the same time if if what you had to do was play the game that you've trained all your life for
For a more money than you've ever seen in your life
You don't even have to compromise your morals or nothing
Maybe your loyalty morals, but you know, it's not even that big a deal because treatment team trades people all the time. So
He took the money too. So I'm not saying he's crazy
But I I don't people people who are like, like he said, you want to be a contender.
Yeah, like you, if someone offered you a hundred million
dollars, you wouldn't just give up on whatever your goal
was at that moment in time.
Be like, okay.
Well, okay.
If one team offers you 80 million and the other offers you
a hundred, but one, you have a chance of winning.
Like, I don't know about how you guys feel,
but the way I feel sitting here, I'm like,
$80 million is a lot of money
Yeah, but I'm assuming he didn't have that
If he's been talking for half a season about wanting to get out of cleveland and it hadn't materialized yet
I'm assuming that nobody else was like, oh we'll give you
All the money we have well people people reached out cleveland was like we're not trading you
They were gonna be they were gonna play hardball about it it So you might have had to sit out for a year. They owned his soul or something, huh?
Yeah, he was still under contract. Yeah, but eventually this has to like pop right?
Like you can't wait every year players get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger salary
It keeps going up in a crazy way like what other job other than sports does someone make more money?
Like what other job other than sports does someone make more money every single year? Like our salaries don't go up like that.
Have you ever been the CEO of something?
Because I've heard good things about that.
Yeah, but they're not even the CEOs.
I'm not saying players shouldn't get paid.
Owners make it up a seen amount of money, but like eventually there's going to be not any more money in the world
other than what athletes are getting paid because it's just insane. I got a funny story about how money works. Turns out it's just made up.
If you can imagine a bigger number, there's some money. There's that much money now.
But people aren't gonna generate enough revenue for this. That's not the point. Shareholders, shareholders.
I don't know. I've been thinking about the economy a lot lately.
We don't think it into economy stuff, but I'm like, man, this does not feel stable.
It feels like we're approaching an unstable place in economy. No,
it's like a bunch of dominoes, right?
So one person doesn't have money.
So they lean on the next person for their money. And then that person they lean on the next person for their money.
And then that person leans on the next person for their money.
There's actually unlimited money because if you just keep leaning on the next one,
it'll circle back around and lean on to the leaning person.
Then they lean a little more. You see? You see? You get-
Does it get through your thick skull now? Hmm?
I forgot how dominoes fell very slowly and leany.
And then when they get hit, they fall more.
Yeah, obviously.
And then the best part about a domino
is you put it at the top of this like pyramid shape, right?
And then this domino leans on two more dominoes.
And then-
It's like a scheme.
Yeah.
It's a great scheme.
Yeah, I love this scheme.
My favorite scheme.
I'm not investing in your domino scheme
That's my favorite metaphor. It's it's a house of cards cards stack forever
The only requirement is you need enough suckers at the bottom to build it on
As long as you keep piling up suckers
The cards will go up and up and you're definitely not trapped at whatever level you happen to be at
You'll be a top card the more weight you put on the bottom the less they can get away go up and up and you're definitely not trapped at whatever level you happen to be at, you'll
be a top card.
The more weight you put on the bottom, the less they can get away.
Yeah, they're really stuck down there.
Like even if they wanted to give up those bottom cards are holding the system up, whether
they like it or not.
Yeah, they're essential.
They're essential, but expendable.
So shut up and be essential.
And that's my small talk.
Uplifting win.
Thank you.
It started there.
Bengals, yay, money, boo.
It's amazing how much pro,
man, I should have been a pro athlete.
They don't tell you that when you're in high school
and you're like, oh, I wanna be a scientist or whatever.
No, we should all aspire to be quarterbacks in the NFL.
That's where the money is.
You know, those guys retire at like the age of like 37,
40 years old.
If you ignore the traumatic brain injuries, it's amazing.
I'd have like two years left in my career
then I'd have the rest of my life to sit on my money.
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Anyway, I have a topic for this episode.
Let's go do that.
The last episode, Mark did a sequel
to one of his all-time greats.
So I'm gonna do the exact same thing.
Love it.
To one of my all-time greats.
The original episode that this is a sequel for
was called Bigger or Smaller.
And it was a real good,
I think we might've done two of those.
I don't even remember.
It was a good one.
I think we have.
Yeah, that sounds right.
I've got a new one, guys.
Are you ready? I'm ready
Faster or slower, right? Uh-huh faster, baby
Yeah, it's already good. I can tell yes more. How do I take away claps?
Suck those back in
Faster or slower last time we did I'm just gonna say a thing and we're just gonna debate
whether it'd be better if it was extremely fast
or extremely slow as compared to the way it actually works
in the real world.
And we can talk about the nitty gritty.
Some of these don't make sense
and we're gonna have to sort of establish a framework
for what it even means for something to be faster or slow,
but we'll get there, we'll get there.
I'll start with one that we've kind of covered before
and I feel like the answer is obvious too,
just to dip our toes in.
Going to the bathroom.
Would it be better if that was hyperbolically fast
or glacially slow?
Going to the bathroom, all both of those kinds of things too
everyone has two right the hard kind or the liquid kind both how much faster we talk in here like a
rocket ship there's a lot of splash damage like a like a reinforced titanium toilet faster ceramics
are not going to cut it and the slower is like, I'm gonna need all day for this?
Yeah, well, so it's on both parts, right?
So I'm imagining that the faster is like,
you have to go, your meter builds up a lot faster.
So you have to go a lot, but then you only need to go
for like two seconds or something, right?
So it happens in short, but it's,
but so the slow one is like, you only need to go to the bathroom like once a week,
but then you're in the bathroom for like, I don't know,
like 10 straight hours or something.
Like it's-
An hour.
I know, so it's, there's a, I don't know what the scale is,
right?
But it's something like that where it's,
it's faster in the doing it,
but it's also faster or slower in terms of like,
how frequently that you have to come back around to it.
Either way is going to be terrible on an airplane. All I gotta say is...
Yeah.
You got people that lined up and they're like, oh no! And then you just got...
Punching holes through the fuselage.
You can plan your flight day on your poop day though. You would know. You're like, ah,
it's not Wednesday. I could fly any day but Wednesday no that's slow
that's slow though right if it's fast you gotta you know you can't take long
flights slow is like you shit your pants and it's the guy from Austin Powers
getting steamrolled you could still keep doing stuff while you were shitting your
pants as long as you were gonna wrap it up and get home soon enough.
Assuming you don't move in slow motion, you'd have plenty of time to get to a bathroom.
You're like, it's starting.
Everything while you're going to the bathroom, you also either move in super fast or super
slow motion.
That might change it a little bit.
That's like a superpower. If your pee-pee poo-poo lasts more than four hours consult a
doctor this is a tough one this is really tough no I told you I picked an
easy one to start with the answer should be obvious faster no slower he's added
like a disappointed Barrett like no no I don't listen man having to go
much more frequently like that I would rather dedicate a day to pooping at
least I could plan for it playing around it imagine like you go to the bathroom
you're like done and then you wash your hands you go back out like 10 minutes
later like time to go again or how frequent if you're pooping for 10 hours
I mean it's it's it's up for debate, right?
We have to establish I'm allowing you to imagine however it would pan out and make your argument
So it's not like every five seconds you have to go to the bathroom or something
It has to be able to live a life. Is it just me or everyone? It's just it's just you
Society could change how bathrooms are designed, but, no, no, no, no.
This is an aberration. It's just you. You have to live with it. You're only a two
hour car ride. There's several shit and runs that you're doing with your ass
out the window. If you got to go every few seconds. I mean, maybe you just need
to build a toilet in your car. If that's your life. Really big diaper, really thick
diaper diapers. I'm more worried about the
much more frequent urination part of it
oh if it's coming out harder to give a
fucking power watch yeah that's a thing
yeah yeah that's a thing that will not
contain it you special special Kevlar
diapers special ripstop diapers that's
very expensive well you just need like a
an outer diaper right you put on your normal depends and then you put your Kevlar outer layer on so
that you can kind of you're still gonna eat through the depends though if your
urine's like yeah but this it still has like the absorbative quality it'll it'll
be a mess I'm not saying it won't be a mess but like it'll be it'll be inside
the Kevlar you know so you won't just be blasting everyone around you with pee
I hate it
also
if you do use a toilet if you're like two seconds shit the amount of time you're gonna spend cleaning up after you would have to
Completely redesign because you are there is something horrible left behind
You got like food poisoning or something you you get like really bad, like diarrhea.
By the time you're done wiping and cleaning up, you have to go again.
Like, no! Ah, no!
This is more like you walk into the room and it looks like someone drew a body in chalk outline,
but that's just the part of the wall where your body shielded it from the shit that just exploded out.
Alright, well, is everyone sticking with their answer?
Slow. Explode it out. All right. Well is everyone sticking with their answer?
I think fast because I would develop a
System to handle it and also it's a good defensive mechanism
Hmm. Look at mark whenever the predator approaches he bends over and shits it away. You keep focusing on the shit I'm focused on the urination part of it. I'm focused on like
water cutting just pressures.
Think about a line at like a theme park.
Like everyone just like, well, I guess just you, right?
It's just you.
Uh huh, just you.
You could never, you'd have to get fast pass
or something every single time.
Cause you're like, I can't wait in a line.
You think you'd be allowed into the theme park.
Eventually the public would understand
what's going on with you and you would not be permitted in art museums anywhere. There's
large crowds of people. It would become a situation. Breaking news, the potent pisser
is struck again. Hey, if this is my villain arc and I have to go between this and slow,
I choose fast. Live life in the fastening
It's a really good villain power. Didn't we have a superhero that was pissed base?
We had a battle between piss man and shit man. Yeah piss man and shit man. It was like a superhero fight. Yeah
The two wolves inside of me one's shit man one's piss man. Give me slow man. I'll take my time
I'll have my like dedicated day to use in the restroom
and I'll have the rest of the week free.
I can plan around it very easily
and I can do other things while using the restroom.
You just make that chair your toilet.
Yeah, easy.
I like both of your answers.
A point for fast piss and slow poop.
Thank you.
This is exactly how I hope this would go. Alright, I have another one.
This is more of a, I will push the boundaries of this one with, we're going to have to decide
what exactly this means, but I experiencing spicy food. I struggle, like I like a, I like
a Buffalo wing, right? But there's like a, I have a low threshold for what's too spicy
for me. And this is a thing where it's like, if you ate just like, it was apocalyptically,
if you ate a spoonful of pure capsaicin or whatever,
and would you experience it as a slow,
a super slow thing or a super fast thing?
And how, what does that look like?
So I have something to say about the previous answer.
Wade, imagine you had diarrhea and you had 10 hours of
excruciating pain on the toilet from your slow slow poop that's why I keep
my morphine bag by the toilet. Yeah no you would need like IV fluids and stuff that would be a whole situation
would you also vomit slow? It's all bodily fluids
Oh, if it's all bodily fluids that changes some things we didn't really address that that's not fair hold on Yeah, if you bleed slower, that means like your arm gets cut off. You're like, I've only got ten hours to find a doctor
It's like a hydraulic hose
Anything could leak out of you is dangerous my blood pressure is in the millions
Dude, you blow your nose and you might take out your hand
It's your superpower is you you keep you keep blood sugar lancets like diabetic lancet and you just like
Laser beam everyone clear the room. I feel a sneeze coming on.
Run!
Watching a sad movie, you're like, Amy, Amy, you gotta go.
I'm gonna cry.
Anyway, back to this one.
Yeah, what were we talking about?
Oh, spicy food.
So this one is, yeah, come up with a conclusion and explain it to me.
Clarifying question here. Slow buildup, does that mean it's also like
slower to go away?
So like if you drink milk or something afterward,
it wouldn't have an effect for longer?
Yeah, it's a long, I'm imagining, I guess,
it's like a long arc, right?
So it's sort of slow and it builds to the same peak
of like spiciness.
But I guess this is for me a thing where
the thing that gets me with spicy food,
usually for me is the panic,
where I'll eat something and I'm like,
ooh, it's spicy.
Ooh, ah, oh, wait, it's too spicy.
It's like, what do I think is gonna happen?
It's not like I'm going to pass away because this is spicy.
It just is spicy.
But I have that feeling in me of like,
oh, oh, it's oh god.
If it was slower, you have you could have a lot more time to be like, this is yeah, it's spicy.
But you're like settled, right? You're adjusting. You maintain you maintain an equilibrium as you're
experiencing the spiciness. Is it kind of stretching the entire experience out along so it maybe it
doesn't peak as high, but because it's taking all of the burn
that you would feel stretching it out,
or is it still just as much?
Because I would think the fast would be all the pain
that you would experience just right here.
So it's like the peak is way higher,
but it's for like a second,
but it's also like getting a nuke in your mouth.
So yeah, so it's like a total volume thing, let's say.
So like the volume under the curve for the fast one,
it's a very narrow, very tall curve,
but it has the same amount of like space.
So for the slow one, it's like you're saying,
it like flattens out and stretches out.
It's the same general amount of volume of whatever.
I'm feeling fast.
There's something almost exciting to me
about the thought of like a half second, like,
whoa, whoa, that was crazy, let's do it again.
I don't know, but if it goes away fully, very quickly,
like the annoying thing about the heat is that you're just
like, like the fact that you're like just gasping for milk or something, like it's burning for a while.
A quick burn? Feels like it would be less terrible to me.
Here's where I say slow.
And I under- trust me.
I understand where Wade's coming from.
I understand. I get it, Wade.
Oh, I get it.
Thank you. I'll take the point.
But, one of the side effects of spicy foods and capsaicin and stuff like that is the endorphin release
So I'm thinking if it's a much longer up than the down where you start to feel all the endorphins go is
Also gonna be like basically a high so you get to not go as
Sustained heat which I can I can handle some hot stuff
I've eaten a lot of hot things,
probably my tolerance is less,
but even if it goes really still very high
and is there longer, that arc,
and like what Bob was saying,
like he could do get used to it.
And then that arc, it's like the endorphins
are just gonna be cruising for ages.
Yeah, well, cause that's even with the way spicy food is
normally that's kind of the thing, right? Like I haven't done it really but I've seen you do hot sauce and there's like a cycle where you do it and you start it and you're like
But you reach a point where it's still basically that level of spicy, but you're just like ah
It's gonna be okay
And you start to get the like the endorphins or something and it kid it changes, right?
Does that mean Wade's gonna get a spike of endorphins just as-
Dude it's gonna be so hot.
You're gonna get so hooked on it.
Every 30 seconds you're gonna be like
Can't eat some more!
Not only that yeah if it's like every second I'm like
Ah!
Next bite. Ah!
I can have as many endorphins as I want very quickly.
I don't know. The slow build up would suck. I think I'm okay with that. You're want very quick. I don't know the slow build-up would suck
I think I'm okay with that. You're a masochist though. Like we know that well
You wanted the high intensity because it'd be so fun. You said that your words about it goes away quick though
I can be quickly over when I got pepper sprayed when me and Ethan got pepper spray
Oh, yeah, you did that. It was about the same as eating a pepper going up and then the arc of it 15 minutes
You know, that's about what eating something really spicy will last It was about the same as eating a pepper going up and then the arc of it 15 minutes, you know
That's about what eating something really spicy will last
This was very painful and I wouldn't recommend doing it again
But the downturn that lasted all day and it was annoying
But it wasn't that bad like it was just one of those things where mmm
My face feels warm and every once and all is like, yeah, huh? That's odd
But if I think about that in terms of like,
if that was also the go up on the other side
and I didn't have the intensity of like,
getting pepper sprayed, that wouldn't be as bad.
Yeah, but if you have to deal with the pain for like,
hours instead of, or I don't know how long it lasted,
but like the increasing intensity for that long.
There is something about spicy food
that is not just painful, it is kind of pleasant
for those who like to eat a lot of spicy things like
Told you Bob Masochist
No, but see that's the thing is I don't I don't do spicy food a lot
But I feel that too when I'm in the right mood and I and I there are certain like
Sauces I know like wing sauces or like flavored things where it's like this is a spice level
I know I can handle it's like right up right under my tolerance
the experience you have when I eat those things when I'm in the
mood the experience of like building that up and getting the prolonged nature of it like
Michael your whole face is like watering or whatever and you're like in it. It is it's fun
That's part of the fun of it is you're like, I'm
I'm surviving this it's fun. It's doing something doing something. I feel alive. I got stuff to do
I don't have all day to be building up heat like
You got two days a week to poop
Okay, hold on we that keeps increasing
I don't like this the spice man
I don't know that the slow buildup would be the anticipation of how bad it could get
Would stress me out or is at least just the quick I'm like over and done, but it is also way higher
I get where weight is going from but I think I'm gonna go with mark on this one. I like the slow
I will say I will say this this debate in other context is not going away
So the this sort of experiential faster slower thing there's, there's other opportunities to litigate this again.
Good, you better agree with me on the next one,
because I was been right twice in a row.
You're never wrong, Wade,
even when I disagree with you vehemently.
This one I think is interesting,
charging and discharging batteries.
So my thinking on this one is like your cell phone, right?
Right now, when I plug my iPhone into a fast charger,
which I have, most of my charges I use
are pretty high wattage chargers.
I can go from like 20% to 80% in like,
I think it's like 20 minutes or 30 minutes or something.
It's fairly quick, right?
And that buys me a full maybe day, day and a half of use,
depending on what I'm doing.
This is like the speed at which you use up the battery
goes up, but also you only have to plug it in
for 15 seconds.
So literally like, you know, your phone battery
only lasts six hours, but you can just be like,
boop, boop, full charge or something like that.
And the opposite is true.
Similar to what we were talking about
with the bathroom stuff, right?
Your phone battery is like seven days,
but then it needs 18 hours on a charger.
And so you can charge it incrementally,
but it just gains and loses charge percentage
at that kind of speed.
So if you charge your phone for a couple hours,
you only gain 10% battery or something.
And it can be other electronics.
The phone was the example that I was thinking of
for this one, but batteries in general.
Could be EVs, could be all other electronics you use,
well, whatever, batteries, faster or slower.
Okay, so I actually experienced something like this
with my truck, my beautiful electric truck,
my incredible electric truck.
Chevy, call me. They've already called me. Truck my incredible electric truck Chevy
They've already called me call me back
Charges overnight right if you charge it at home it takes about 12 hours to get that battery full. It's huge
But you know, it's a relatively powerful charger at home
Not quite like fast charging out in the wild
But it takes 12 hours to charge and that thing lasts like a week or more depending on how much I'm driving so it kind of experiences that slow charge
slow discharge kind of thing but also if that thing could charge up in a minute even if it only
lasts like one day or half a day no that's the thing right that's what EVs is an interesting
example of this because people who are not in favor of EVs
or think that they're not
because they've never actually lived with one are like,
yeah, well, you can't just go to the gas station
for five minutes, right?
You gotta stop at a char, I drive an EV,
I've never fucking stopped at a supercharger
in my entire life.
Literally, I think three or four times ever,
two of those times were because I was like,
huh, I've never used a super charger before.
I wonder how fast it charges.
And then I did it and I was like 10 minutes later,
I was like, okay, and we left.
You charge it at home.
If you could have a charger at home,
if it could get you through a whole day
and you could just plug it in in your garage at home
and it would be charged in half an hour or something,
that would be crazy.
It would also make road trips really cool.
Even if it was only like 100 to 150 miles of actual range or something that would be crazy it would also make road trips really cool if even if it was only like a hundred to 150 miles of actual range or something
right like half or less half or less than what the longest range EVs currently
get so maybe even say like hundred or less miles of range but you only need to
stop for like five minutes ten minutes to charge it up every however often.
Like there's some balance there.
Changes the way I feel like people would see that
and the usability of it.
Great thinking, great thinking,
but slow is the correct answer.
Really?
Yes.
Okay, you guys are thinking about like normal,
best case scenarios, like, oh, I got a charge less,
I still get a day's worth when it takes 30 minutes.
But what if you don't have your charger?
What if an end of the world apocalyptic event lasts
or you're just out somewhere, you're lost in the desert?
You need that phone to last as long as possible.
Longer lasting is much more important than charging.
Chargers come a dime a dozen.
You can have a portable charger, charging is getting easier,
more portable, more convenient, but longer lasting, something that lasts just days or weeks.
Imagine not having to charge your phone
and you don't have access to a charger,
and it's like, that's okay,
it's got three weeks on the battery.
That is nuts.
I will take that.
Cause charging, easy.
I have to sleep, charge while I sleep.
A portable charger, plug it in while I'm walking around.
Like, we got these little thingies now just sit on our desk.
They just set your phone on it.
Still even use it.
Easy peasy.
I was gonna make fun of you,
but my phone is actually literally sitting on a stand
on that exact charger that came with my phone, I think.
I feel like this prompt needs some clarification
because it's like, it's not an either or this situation
because it's kind of like, this is what it is. If you have a bigger battery, then yeah, it takes longer to charge, but it's like, it's not an either or this situation because it's kind of like, this is what it is.
If you have a bigger battery, then yeah,
it takes longer to charge, but it's like,
it must be like the device doesn't function
once it's out of batteries until it's charged to full, right?
Cause that way in the fast, it doesn't work till it's full.
And then the slow, it doesn't work till it's full.
And only when it hits full is when it starts.
Well, that would change if that's the way things work,
but they don't at the moment.
No, this is a hypothetical scenario.
I think it's a hypothetical that you think benefits you.
It affects both ways.
How dare you.
Yeah, because if my fast charging,
if I just keep it plugged in all the time,
it would never run out either.
And if you keep your slow charging plugged in all the time,
it would never run out either.
So they're both functionally the same. I came into this with a preconceived
notion and I hate Wade's argument so much. Okay. It almost changed my mind away from
what was originally my answer, which was to agree with Wade on this one, which was slow.
It didn't. I'm going to go with slow batteries. Why is BuzzBurger so bad? I just, I thought
about this one. This was part of the reasonurger so bad? I just, I thought about this one.
This was part of the reason I wanted to do this episode.
I thought about this for a long time myself.
And the thing I came to would be, Mark is right.
The world would fundamentally be different in a world
where either of these different qualities
of batteries existed.
And I want a world where batteries are slow
in the way that we're talking about,
but everything is designed with an understanding
that that's the case,
and batteries are designed to be swappable.
Batteries in electric vehicles,
you don't have to plug your car in to charge it,
you just literally go to a station
and pull out the dead battery
and put in a fully charged battery.
And it doesn't matter if it takes forever
to charge those batteries as long as,
and same with your phone, right?
My phone's battery is part of the reason it's shitty
is that modern phones, you can't change the batteries.
This wasn't always the case.
I remember the last smartphone I had
where you could take the back panel off
and pop the battery.
I had another battery.
It was fucking awesome.
That was in the era where batteries on smartphones
only lasted like eight hours. So you kind of had to do that if you were like, like, you know That was in the era where batteries on smartphones only lasted like eight hours.
So you kind of had to do that if you were like,
I got out in the world and couldn't plug it in all the time.
But in that world where batteries are slow,
but you get a lot of life out of them,
you just swap the batteries.
And that solves the conundrum of,
oh, well my phone needs to be plugged into charge
so I can't, I'm tethered to the wall
or my car needs to be plugged into charge so I can't drive it once the battery is dead, like all that shit.
That, it'd be a whole other world. But I think that would be awesome.
This is a forgotten thing about phones, but now that you say that it's so universal in
literally any other technology.
Why is all electronics integrated batteries? You can't fucking remove? It's so stupid
I don't know cuz cameras cameras are all
interchangeable batteries because if you had if you had to plug your
Camera in every time you wanted to do something and shall wait for it to charge nothing would happen. It ruins its usability
Yeah, why don't we have?
Battery stations where you drive your EV in there? Ka-chunk.
Here you go.
Ka-chunk and you drive up.
You rent propane tanks the same way.
I will say, I believe there is, I don't know if it's a specific brand of cars or like a
specific car line or something.
In China, I think, or somewhere in Asia, that's a thing.
It's in testing, possibly.
It's not like it's everywhere, but they're working on a thing where it's like there are essentially battery gas stations and you pull your car in and
It's like they yoke out the battery pack give you a fresh one
You drive away and they go and do that
That's a thing that like someone in the world has thought of and is trying to do or is doing but and same with phones
I'm sure there are someone out there who's like, oh, you just need to get the right phone.
Like, yeah, but I also don't want to be a green bubble.
Like I understand I get what I get.
And being an Apple user comes with all of the ups
and downs that come with that.
But wouldn't an iPhone be better
if you could just pop the battery out real quick?
Like, would it really destroy the fundamental design ethos
of an iPhone
if the back panel could pop off or had some thumbscrew,
some kind of cool design to where you could pop a new battery
in that some bitch and it would be not a problem.
Would it really destroy?
No, it wouldn't, but then Apple wouldn't sell
as many new iPhones because when your iPhone
that's two years old only holds a charge for 10 hours,
it's fucking annoying.
And so you go buy a new phone because that's the world that we live in
I think I made a great argument and it was put down way too quickly and easily
No, I think your argument was so awful
It almost lost you a point that you basically had guaranteed going in
Your argument for slow batteries is what if the apocalypse happened? Okay, you go camping you go boating
You're out somewhere where you don't have easy access
to a charger.
Well, you should probably plan for that
and bring something that gives you electricity.
No, it's fine.
I'm on your side, I don't know, I'm being mad at you,
but just.
I don't know about you,
but I feel like products 50 years ago
lasted longer than products now.
And everyone's like, man,
I wish I didn't have to buy a new vacuum every year.
You weren't alive 50 years ago. No, but we had a fucking vacuum from back
then growing up and it still worked. We had a stove from back then and it worked for a
hell of a long time. Shit breaks so fast. Look, I'm not at all going to argue against
the notion that plain obsolescence is definitely a part of the world we live in now
and that lots of stuff is designed to become shitty
so you have to buy a new one.
That's definitely a thing.
But also in every generation of technology,
some of them are built better than others
and there are definitely things in our lifetimes
from the 90s, 2000s, 2010s,
where if you had bought the correct one, it would be a
thing you could own for the rest of your life. It is harder to do that. It is less
common for a product to be made that way, but as I would argue without
specifically picking an example, you could still do that, but it's expensive.
That, when you buy a vacuum and there's one vacuum that's $100 and there's one vacuum that's $500 or $700,
it's hard to justify spending seven, 500, 600,
whatever on a vacuum when you could get it for a fifth of the price,
unless the $500 one is going to last you for 40 years.
But it's hard to know that it's like, I'm not arguing against your point at all,
but I do think it's still possible.
I own things that I think I'm gonna own
for the rest of my life.
Electronic things?
No.
That's kind of what we're going with here.
The problem is with increasing technological complexity,
there comes a lot more points of failure.
This is not so much a planned obsolescence as a statistical
guarantee that if you increase the number of points of failure,
there are going to be more failures. And therefore things
do fail more often and its lifetime does decrease. Not that
they can't make a system that has a lot of, you know, complex
systems and will last forever, but it's also an extremely
expensive thing. And generally speaking, products trend down in price and I don't know how things
balance for inflation.
Do you think they intentionally make things now to try to last as long as possible?
Well, I think they try to make things as cheap as possible. What I'm saying is like the lasting
is not part of their decision for most of the industries. It's just cheap and therefore it does.
Cheap and complex, that's where the two axes come down
and it gets to where it doesn't last as long.
I'm cynical enough to believe that it's intentionally made
cheap and complex so that they can sell more to make more.
Yes, yeah, that is absolutely it.
So I think there is a system where you could have
a modern vacuum that has suck power that
also lasts more than like two years.
It's called the Dyson and it costs like a thousand dollars.
I will say we owned a Dyson least reliable vacuum we ever had.
That's what I thought.
Right.
When we bark, I hated your argument so much.
I agree with me.
No, but I was with you.
But I, that's the thing the thing right is it's hard
It's hard to tell now that we're in the future from 50 years ago
It's easy for us to look at stuff and be like look at this thing
This thing was built in the 50s or 60s or whenever look at it stood the test of time
Yeah, well, we fucking know that now don't we there were products that were built back then that didn't stand the test of time
that we have never heard of and so you have to like you have to have some knowledge or
Faith in a company and what they're trying to do and if they're do if their goal is to build something that lasts you the
Rest of your life you have to kind of get lucky and or have enough knowledge and do enough research that you find a thing
Where it's like yeah
This is a this, this is a,
this I think is a product that will last me forever
without having any test samples
because this is a product that didn't exist
before three years ago or whatever.
But yeah, we had, we spent the money.
We were like, let's get a nice vacuum.
We've only ever owned like, you know,
like cheapo whatever vacuums,
cause we were college kids, let's get a Dyson.
It's on sale, It's still expensive.
Let's do it. We'll own this thing. It broke after five years. It just, it just stopped
working. It, it had some sort of issue with an electronic and it stopped charging and
we got a different battery and that just fucking broke.
You know, in my, in my head, when you said five years, I was like, Oh, that's a long
time. And then I realized what we're talking about. Exactly. I will say, um, Oh, that's a long time. And then I realized what we're talking about. Exactly.
I will say, yeah, that is that is the decision that consumers need to make of like, what is
worth their money? Because the only time that I can remember where the cost went up because of
consumer decisions is with cars, like in that era, where they were extremely unsafe. And they
basically were deathtraps. If you got in an accident at 30 miles an hour, your chance of survival is very slim. But
because consumers were like we want safer cars and safer cars are more
expensive to make, car manufacturers started to make safer cars that were
harder to manufacture with crumple zones and safety features and all these kind
of things because that's what consumers they wouldn't buy the death trap ones.
You know, I don't know why I'm doing quotes. They were death traps.
That's how you say it. Death traps, you know,
but that's one of the few times where they go towards that.
There's plenty of things that are available for purchase today that are usually
reliable, but more expensive and people do tend to go for the cheaper stuff.
But that's up to everybody's decision.
No, I still generally agree with a way to point point I think planned obsolescence is definitely a thing and
it sucks isn't it like it's not realistic to buy a thing that costs
multiple times more than what it should cost to buy the one that is just on the
shelf at the regular store just because you think it might last your
whole life because then if it doesn't you spent a thousand fucking dollars on
a Dyson vacuum that you threw into the dump
when you moved.
I'm not mad about it.
I'm not mad about it at all.
We have a Dyson vacuum and it's fine.
I just don't expect it or any of them
to last a long time, nothing lasts.
You know who makes products built to last?
Prusa.
If you want a 3D printer that's gonna last you.
That's right, you've had yours for at least two weeks now.
That plastic is gonna be on earth
after humanity's long extinct.
Plastic's not going anywhere, man.
The earth is gonna be coated in a shell of plastic,
eventually.
So if we just print plastic covers for all of the electronics,
electronics can't go bad.
Then they'll never break, yeah.
All right, well, we're gonna move on from that
to something that I'm sure won't be contentious.
Faster or slower taxes.
And this is one where if you live outside America,
it might be hard to connect.
The tax systems are very different in other places.
But in America, the way it works is,
once a year,
on April 15th, you have to pay your taxes
and you have to guess exactly what that number might be.
And if you're wrong, the government gets real upset
about it.
They don't tell you how much they owe,
you owe to the government,
or even though the government knows,
because all the documents you get from your employer
or from other sources of income,
if you sell stuff online or like we do,
we get stuff from like YouTube
and from doing the podcast stuff.
All those documents that you get
that tell you about your income,
those are all filed with the government.
Those documents exist because the company
that made them to give them to you,
made them, sent them to the government,
and then also sent them to you.
And it's your job to figure out
what fucking magical math you need to job to figure out what fucking magical math
you need to do to figure out exactly what amount
you might owe or not owe the government in taxes.
So once a year, that's the bullshit
and we're in it right now.
I don't know if you guys are stressed about it,
but I have been for the last couple of weeks
bothering myself with taxes.
So obviously this was on my mind
because it's a tax season.
Yay.
I hate tax season, but I deal with taxes year round
because I'm my accountant. I have an accountant.
And that's the thing too, if you have like where,
where we have businesses because of the nature
of what we do with YouTube and that's how it works.
I also pay taxes year round,
but tax day is still a once a year thing.
So I'm kind of looking at this
through a simplified perspective on it,
but would it be better if your taxes were faster or slower than that system?
Faster means from the sky descends a giant
Vacuum tube that goes to your house or chases you down and starts sucking your money out reverse Santa
You put your money in the chimney every night
You know the thing the grids shove down the chimney that sucked up all the money in the chimney every night. The other thing, the grid shoved
down the chimney that sucked up all the presents in the cat too. It's that, but it's sucking
your money out and you're like, you gotta hold on the one way ATM. So does that mean
you pay taxes like every day, every hour? I don't, I hadn't specifically thought that
this one very much, but yeah, something like, I mean, kind of like what Mark's saying or
like something where it's like
Every single transaction you do which is mostly true depending on what state you live in anyway
But every single transaction you do the tax is wrapped up into it instead of paying an income tax
What if it was just like sales tax on everything and don't want to discuss the philosophy
And ethics of tax systems.
Don't come at me about, oh, well that unduly burned.
Yeah, I know, I know.
But we're just talking about like, is it better or worse?
Okay, slower would be what?
You pay once a decade?
Yeah, slower would be like,
you pay taxes for each quarter of your life.
Your life is assumed to be a certain length.
Say you live, they're like, okay,
we're all gonna live to be 80 years old
because that Bob doesn't do math
and that's a nice easy one.
So every 20 years, it's tax time
and you pay taxes on a quarter of your life.
And it's awful.
It's like a year of taxes or more.
It's forever.
But then you don't have to think about that shit
for a couple of decades.
Is that better or worse faster or slower?
Faster I feel like there'd be a system to develop that make it very easy
Plus if you already knew like okay, I went and bought this today or I went and I earned this today
Someone gave me 20 bucks to cut their lawn. I just immediately am like, alright. Well, I made 50 bucks today
I owe this there you go
Alright, well I made 50 bucks today. I owe this. There you go
It'd be annoying but like it's a minor inconvenience that doesn't add a lot and the numbers stay small
It's already annoying as fuck like so talking to my having an accountant even if you didn't have an accountant and you're looking through and you're Like what the hell was this expense on my account in February of last year?
I don't remember that if you had to do that for like fucking 25 years, you're like,
Oh, yes, what did I buy six relationships ago on a Tuesday at 6 p.m. from a company called
DVR 96 750 216. Is that taxable or that would suck so much?
If I just had to do it today, get it over with, I know what I did today, even with his memory as bad as mine.
Okay, fine. I owe 20 bucks. I owe 5 bucks. Whatever today, get it over with, I know what I did today. Even with his memory as bad as mine, okay, fine, I owe 20 bucks, I owe five bucks,
whatever, just get it over with.
That would be so much simpler than having to go back.
Even though I only do it four times in my life,
like, dude, I would just wish for death that whole year.
I think I agree with Wade.
As much as my body physically rejects the idea,
I think he's right.
Because this is how it happens
anyway you go to a cash register it says tax right on there you pay that amount
shouldn't that be it? I taxed right there then in there it happened I don't have
that anymore so all right we're done right if I get my paycheck and I look at
it as taxes withheld all right, we're good, right? You took it.
Yeah, that's a lovely thing about American system.
Why do they withhold taxes, but not do it correctly?
Like I understand it's more complicated than that
and their math, but that just makes it more complicated.
Like it's painful in our line of work
is doing YouTube and stuff.
No one withholds our shit.
No one withholds taxes generally, right?
We get money for the advertisements
just for YouTube, for example.
They send that to us.
And then we have to pay the taxes on it.
That sucks because early on in our careers,
I don't know if it ever hit you guys,
but there were definitely a couple of years
where it got around to tax season and and I sat down and was like
alright alright that's I didn't realize that I had that much YouTube ad rev or
whatever and oh my god I owe how much money yeah and what the fuck hey hang on
the first two years that I started like doing it and like you know like had an
accountant and they were like oh yeah it looks like you owe this. And I was like, I know what you're doing.
Yeah, well, and then they're like, no, you actually made this like,
but if you know ahead of time, like now that I know how that works,
it's not that bad that I have to do it myself. It's really, it's really not.
I just know out of every like income that I get, I'm like, ah, about 30,
40% of that, whatever I need to save that for tax season and like you the withholdings and
the getting a return the government just has some of your money for some of the
year because your employers too stupid to calculate your debt why is it anyway
well I play I already pay I'm sure we all do quarterly estimates and then you
have to pay the actual one and state whatever. All right, differentiate so I can pick who gets points.
How fast?
Wade said daily.
Are you sticking with,
do you wanna stick with like daily tax settling?
If we could do it,
every purchase just automatically done
or I could just like.
Do we still have to file?
Yes.
Is that what we're saying?
So there's have to,
there would be some level of efficiency with it.
So like, if it was like weekly, say,
yeah, you have to file,
but maybe it's like a thing you do on an app, right?
Like maybe weekly, every week on Friday or something,
you pull up your phone and for like a minute,
you're like beep boop, yep, approve, done, filed.
It's not like you have to like do what we do now,
where it's like you fill out paperwork,
you have to mail it, you have to like do what we do now where it's like you fill out paperwork You have to mail it you have to mail hard copies all this shit. It's
Simplified to reflect this the faster part
I guess to be realistic it has to be when you get paid if you get paid once a month or once every two weeks
Like that's whenever you'd be filing it wouldn't be for your things
You're buying because that taxes are taken out that's me income based
So I guess the most frequent you could do it is however frequently you get paid
I mean that could be modified because the way payments currently work is not set in stone or anything that you could do that
However, we want but yeah, like it would make sense for it to reflect around that. I'll stick with just daily
Tap-tap. These were my expenses tap-tap like I feel like that's easier to keep track of rather than having to think back at all
It's like what I do today. I had to buy a new monitor.
Boop boop done.
What did I do today?
I needed a new cord for...
That monitor is not going to last you the rest of your life.
I got bad news.
Literally just got a text from my accountant, which is kind of weird.
Stop! Stop talking!
What are you doing?
Don't give me more work.
Mark, do you have a different opinion?
Honestly, yeah, I also have an accountant.
So I'm going to... Well, honestly, I also have an accountant, so I'm gonna...
Well, honestly, it's kind of necessary in what we do because shit gets really complicated really quickly when you have to...
It's like it's a scam to prop up a whole industry.
We want to keep the score even so that you have to do a one-man show, Bob. That's our goal.
Well, it's already not even, but I guess you both get a point for that.
Oh, one of us needs to unfair it then oh I said it anyway
Either we both get two points or we both get none. Yeah, you heard the man
Tails oh well mine doesn't even matter.
All right, I've got a couple more.
The growth speed of your fingernails and toenails,
fast or slow?
Fast.
Slow.
How would you want to clip more often?
It's already slow, let's experience some speed.
Okay, but remember the consequence.
Fast nails, clipping your nails takes five seconds.
They grow fast, you clip fast. Slow nails, clipping your nails takes five seconds. They grow fast you clip fast slow nails clipping your toenails
Your fingernails takes an hour and a half even better because slow means I've got more natural weapons if they're harder to clip and break
Yeah, I don't even need a pocket knife I'm just like
I don't like that. That doesn't sound good. That sounds, I already accidentally scratched myself
and have a child who, if I'm not careful
and my nails are too long, I can scratch.
You gotta, like, I don't need weapons
permanently attached to my fingers.
Everything is plenty dangerous enough.
All right, working out fast or slow?
Fast.
And I'll explain it.
Never, God damn it.
No, you can stick with that.
It's the it takes less time to work out.
But also you get even more like you the exhaustion is the same
and the result is fast, but the decay is also fast.
All of the parts of it are fast, right?
So it's not like you can just work out fast and then do it
less and then be you you get fit fast and you get unfit fast.
And so you have to keep working out
just in quicker, shorter segments and same with slow.
So before a photo shoot, you really do just like,
oof, boop, boop, boop.
I'll take fast.
Mark still takes fast.
Wade, fast or slow?
Oh, give me slow.
If I could still be in shape for my high school days
of working out every day.
Oh my God.
It's like workout for a couple years of your life
and then ride that forever.
Like everyone, we're doing a year of basketball content.
Why?
So I can be lazy the rest of my life.
Yeah, I gotta go with slow.
I like that one.
We've covered this on different episodes in the past before
and it's gonna feel like a personal attack,
but I promise it's not, Wade.
Hair, fast or slow?
Slow.
I like being bald and the less I gotta shave, the better.
He's right.
You're both right and this is a weird one,
but I like getting haircuts
and the idea of like a nice, long, relaxing haircut
sounds kinda nice.
It'd be like a spa day, I'm imagining almost kind of on board with that I just don't like
getting haircuts because for some well it's my own fault because I don't go to
the same person so every time it's a real gamble no I do that too and it is a
real gamble but I like the reward of when you go and you you get a good
person and you're like ah man this is this is the best. Cause a bad haircut, it's fine, but it's not,
it's whatever, not that bad.
But a good hair, that's surprisingly good haircut.
How long would a haircut take in slow?
I guess it wouldn't matter if you only do it
once every hour long.
Yeah, I mean, I'm imagining it'd be like a whole day
or something, you have to be kind of,
cause hair, I don't know, what's a hair,
how long do you think a haircut is?
Okay, to be bald, man, I gotta shave a little bit more frequently than most people so it's like it takes
We'll say an hour every week or two if unless you're keeping with a daily because daily you can kind of get one of those
Things just go over it a little bit
Maintaining bald is harder than maintaining hair as far as like the shaving you got you do a lot more frequently
Anyway, we all agreed. I only have one more so let's just do it and get over with faster slow mark. You're up first
I only have one more, so let's just do it and get over with. Fast or slow, mark your up first.
Doctors, my vision for this one
is kinda like the spicy food.
You go to the doctor and if it's fast,
you go in and the doctor's like,
all right, we're gonna have to do a procedure.
And they take a huge machine and just,
and for like a second, you're just like, ah!
But then you're healed, surgery over, done, fast doctor.
There's no question that fast is better because we already live in the slow world
This is what we have and I don't
I've never gone to the hospital in it not taking six hours just to see someone and and I'm
Usually dying when that's happening not as dying as much as many people they're dying
But if I don't get help eventually,
my gut would explode in the past times I've been there.
And that's pretty deathly.
So fast, yes, please, I like fast.
Just to give it a fighting chance,
the slow is a lot, the spicy too, right?
The maximum threshold for like the amount of pain
you have to deal with, the amount of discomfort,
the amount of being like naked and like, or the amount of discomfort, the amount of being like
naked and like or awkwardly doing like it's lower right? It's not as bad. It takes longer
but there's no oh you're gonna feel a pinch and then it feels like they're stabbing you with a
hot poker for 10 minutes while they're trying to do some shit to you or get a biopsy or something.
I've been stabbed with a hot poker for 10 minutes for a biopsy.
And let me tell you, they also have medicine at this hospital.
And if it acts fast too, even if it doesn't last as long, I'll take it.
I have to agree with fast, even though I will say the thought of a very fast,
like prostate exam or something, the kind of terrifying.
It's like one of those Tesla plugs that was supposed to plug itself in
it's just like boys and they're like stand up
squat down
a little lower
bend over
YAAA
no cancer
got your prostate
and a lot of women are avoiding the gynecologist with fast
like anything like that sounds terrible
but i cannot fathom blood draws for some reason make me like a bit queasy
But it wouldn't hurt it'd be like a little suction cup on your arm. It'd be so gentle. They don't hurt me
I just get nauseous like watching blood leave my body and having to sit there for like an hour if that's what it took on
Slower I couldn't do it
So like it's like get me in get me out
But my god if you have to go into an orifice or like, you know
Sometimes though with like earwax to like clean out ears and stuff like that
Like the thought of anyone going into an orifice quick in and out is kind of fucking scary. Yeah, that's you pretty precise
I'm assuming it would be it's not just like oh I missed again. All right stitch him up
Ears are so hard to get into, you know? Sorry.
Popped the prostate.
My touched it too quick.
All right.
I have to say I went into that leaning towards slow, but you
both kind of convinced me, but either way you agreed.
So I guess you both get a point.
Thank you.
I don't like some of the fast, but I was still taking over the
other slow.
I think no, the fast is terrifying, but all of it is kind
of terrifying to me.
So I get that
I wouldn't I don't what there are some things where the doctor is just like all right we're
gonna do this and the whole time I'm just like. Some things are kind of fast I remember the first
time I had like a freckle or mole or whatever and the doctor was like we need to we need to test
this and I was like okay sure and then like two seconds later someone walks in with like a
fucking zappy and then the the scrape thing
They're like, all right, we're just gonna cut you open. I was like, you don't have to schedule me for this
Knock me out for this. You're just gonna cut me right now. They're like, oh, yeah
And just go in removes
Band-aid done and it was like it's that easy just to chunk people. They don't care. They don't care. That's the end
I'm gonna add an an input to the wheel
and then we're gonna move on to the bonus portion.
Oh, I was gonna add something about faster and slower,
but I hadn't actually settled on it.
Fastest response.
I'll say what you got points for
and then we'll do the totals once there's actually points.
Wade, you got points for W.E.B.N. Ligma 69
Economist Wade, slow shits, slow batteries, fast taxes, slow workouts, slow hair and
slow doctor. Wade's a slow man. Fast doctor. Let me correct that. Mark you earn points for industry with a belt,
fast piss, slow spicy, fast tacks,
fast nails, slow hair, and fast doctor.
And we are going to do two bonus rolls.
Spin number one.
Okay, why does it always, wait, okay, all right, hold on.
It always Lands here. Maybe this wheel is not very
Unbiased maybe this website is crappy if you if you click it multiple times in the middle
Will it like super spin it like da da da da?
I clicked it a bunch. Oh come on!
Oh come on!
Alright that's a point for the listeners
and then a point for the viewers
Damn it!
This stupid wheel
I have bad news about that boys
Before the bonus spins
Mark you had
8 points
and Wade
you had 8 points and Wade you had eight points.
Yeah, Mark and Wade tied for first listeners tied for tied for third.
Technically listeners viewers tied for third with one point each.
That means I have to roll the stupid other fucking wheel.
It's at 10%.
Wade is at 45%. Mark is at 45% one man
Show is at 10%
I've only ever thought about punishing mark for this so I have no idea what we would do for you Bob
I'm excited to find out I
Sure, it'll be fine. No, there's no 10% is nothing
That's all me baby, okay is nothing and nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo double the percentage that a one-man show comes up with something. I don't know, I know we talked in a recent episode about we need to clarify or change that rule or something.
I love that it's just fucking bullshit on the spot that we're like, whatever is doubly fair, doubly unfair.
Who knows? Whatever happens, happens.
We've had a lot of ties recently, I will say. We've had a lot of ties.
Yeah, well now that we have bonus points at the end it's really hard while the episodes going on to be like
I'm gonna make sure they don't tie at the end so that I don't have to spin the
fucking wheel I don't want to spin not that I would ever have done that but
congratulations mark winner speech thank you this was a great one for me fast
winner fast speech fast victory fast done a very fast fast indeed wade
sad slow pitiful loser speech
hey i gave it my all and my all just wasn't quite good enough today
My all just wasn't quite good enough today.
The fates had it in store for me to come up last, and so I did.
Hey, you didn't come last, Varadis.
You beat the viewers and the listeners.
Hahahaha!
And that one was just for the viewers
All right. Congratulations mark. Thank you for your speeches both of you
Slow Wade didn't have it in him today the the hair one lesson not learned
Parable destroyed by reality the hair beat the tortoise and the tortoise is a stinky stinky loser
Make sure you follow mark and Wade on their socials and stuff. Mark Plyer, LordManiac777, or Maniac777, follow me.
Make sure you follow the show, because then you'll get notifications when the episode's
posted and it'll pop up on your devices and you can watch, listen.
Mark will be hosting the next one, because he is a winner.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Thanks so much for watching. See you in the next episode. he is a winner and that's all I have to say about that thanks so much for watching see you in the next episode bye podcast out