Distractible - Faster or Slower?

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Like that pile of laundry. You didn't forget to fold it. No, it's a new trend. Wrinkled chic. Feel the Aero bubbles melt. It's mind-bubbling. My parents have had a lot of time on their hands lately. At first, it was nice. Hey, Mom, can you drive me to soccer practice? Sure can. We're having slow-cooked ribs for dinner. It was awesome. And then it became a lot. Some friends are coming over to watch a movie. Oh, what are we watching? I'll make some popcorn. Thanks to Voila, they can order all our fresh favorites from Sobeez, Farmboy, and Longos online, which is super reliable. And now my parents are reliable. A little too reliable.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Voila. Your groceries delivered. Just like that. mammon's machinations then asks the fellas to factor fleetness. Woven Wade has a stroke for splashing cash, focuses on faeces, Armageddon, the Fiscus and follicles. Moderator Mark manifests industrialism and emissions, explains being sprayed and bogus biopsies. From actively ascending to orifice exploration. Yes! It's time for Faster or Slower. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to another agreeable episode
Starting point is 00:02:01 of the Distractable Podcast, where we all nod in agreement, no matter what is being said. I am your host, my name is Bob, I am hosting because I won the last one. I won the last one by competing in it which is what Mark and Wade, the other two guys here, will be doing and then one of them will win and they'll host and then we'll all just keep nodding. The nodding is an important part of the show. We do this in every episode.
Starting point is 00:02:28 90% of everything we've ever put on the internet involves a lot of nodding. The listeners never actually knew that this was occurring all the time. It was our first time acknowledging it. We actually hold up signs that say viewers, don't tell the stupid listeners about the nodding I feel like a pigeon pecking at seeds
Starting point is 00:02:48 is anyone else going slowly blind? it's doing something to my vision yeah it is oddly uncomfortable yeah it's making my eyes water is that good? yeah I don't know why that would be happening but it sure is happening it's... eugh can you get concussed from nodding? probably yeah you can
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'll bet disagreeing feels better You know, they say if you smile, you know, you'll start to feel happy. I thought I would feel agreeable. I'm oh god If the audience if the listener had to guess which one of the two of them are doing something horrifying Yep, it was Wade. Smiling man, what do you mean? Oh, I was glad it wasn't me because I was just confused and doing what I normally do. Someone please post that screenshot to the subreddit with no context. Just no- everyone actually. Everyone's spam that picture so suddenly.
Starting point is 00:03:39 There's like a hundred of that. Oh, the mods are gonna love that. Ah, it's okay. I'm a mod, I approve. Also, did I miss the green memo? It's St. Patrick's Day. It's after St. Patrick's Day. By a reasonable margin.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Not only is it already not St. Patrick's Day, but this is definitely not St. Patrick's Day. Look, my shirt application on a daily basis is in complete pitch darkness. So I never know what shirt I'm grabbing. I open my drawer, I fumble around to like grab something that, and I'll pick up, be like, no, I don't like this one. And I'll put it back and then I'll get one that's agreeable. You don't hang your shirts?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Some of them, but I don't have to hang your t-shirts? Yeah. Why? What are they fancy? No, it's more convenient to grab. He is right. Less folding. I mean you don't have to fold as much, you just put a hanger on it. Vertical storage is superior for clothing. But you have to hang it. That's faster than folding to me. Look, this is maybe, maybe not a problem that you normal-sized humans have, but is maybe, maybe not a problem that you normal size humans have, but my shirts, literally, if I don't have the right kind of hangers, my t-shirts don't hang, they fall off.
Starting point is 00:04:52 If I have like a slippery hanger, like just a smooth plastic hanger, my neck holes are so big that they barely even stay on. I'm enormous. Oh, mine just sit on a hanger. I'm like an elephant. I need special storage for my things. I apologize for all the things you've smelled when we've hung out.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Elephants do, elephants have a good sense of smell, right? We've talked about that. Didn't you teach us they had the best? Uh, that sounds like a thing I would say, yeah. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. I'm not nodding anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm not nodding anymore. That really does mess with me. Also, I do feel bad. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm She keeps to be healing up okay. We might need to do chemo or something else as a follow-up, but like she's got a lot of energy. She's eating, she's happy, aside from her leg I think being kind of sore, but she's okay. I'm sorry I left everyone in the unawares. It's okay, and thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I saw people talking about that on the separate, I appreciate it. In getting older news, I have a question for you guys. No, my balls don't touch the water in the toilet yet We don't worry about that. That's gonna happen. It's coming why in Europe They have like less water in the toilet because they're all older than us That's why they call men over the age of 65 soggy sex never heard that term. It's common. It's common Different getting older question in your in your in your late
Starting point is 00:06:24 Different getting older question in your in your in your late stage of life As we enter the the final trimester of our existence Any of you get this overwhelming urge for industry industry like like personal industry or like no in a factory an assembly line Factorio style I did play Satisfactor right is that right? So that's what I think because I I was looking at CNC the computer numeric control Now we all know what you mean, and I was like oh not for me That's too complicated, and then I went ah 3d printing there's a thing I know and ever since I've been looking at 3d printing and since you know
Starting point is 00:07:09 Prusa so kindly sent me an unbelievable amount of printers an unbelievable amount of printers yeah yeah didn't you say you had some extras for your old buddy Bob no No! Okay. They're all mine! My industry. No, I've had this overwhelming desire just to see like an entire factory floor churning out product after product after product and me overseeing it on a big catwalk up above, you know, clang, boom, clang, sipping my really fancy decaf coffee because I don't drink caffeine right now. Mmm, mmm. And then looking upon my works, my industry. sipping my really fancy decaf coffee, because I don't drink caffeine right now. And then looking upon my works, my industry.
Starting point is 00:07:49 The end of you get that overwhelming urge. Dude, you're like five years away from just becoming an oil baron, I don't know. That's what I mean. If I was in another era, I might, well, probably not, but I might be industrious. We're gonna see you in a suit with like a fancy cane and a monocle before this podcast is done.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You ever have an urge to see the lower class working very hard to produce materials for me Yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. No, I I don't know is maybe it's like, you know Since I ordered pants for the first time in a few years, like I've been wearing pants every day with a belt Never mind, I don't have a belt on today. Oh, let me suck that back in OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH I'm basically beholden to Prusa and I love them dearly and everything about it. Don't they have resin printers? They have one. It's a little older than what new ones are. And I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch of the imagination, but I've never done any resin printing ever. And I've heard a lot of things about resin printing that are, it's basically toxic.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The fumes are hard to mitigate. It just gets messy because it's liquid So you have to you have to deal with the liquid that's in the vat after the print You do not want to ingest resin, but however the snack resinettes are fine. I love resonance. I'll print you some resinettes I'll send them to your house. Show me a video of you. I want the little wrinkly ones I'll get them real wrinkly for you. But the thing about resin printing is a high barrier to entry, but the quality of print is incredibly higher than what FDM printing, which is just the plastic melted extrusion. It can do pretty much invisible layer lines.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It can print like actual miniatures for like D&D figures with incredible quality. It would look like you bought it from the store, you know, and you can make them all yourself. And who knows, that's probably how they make them nowadays, but you could do that at home if you can tackle that. So not only do I wanna make an industrial military complex, I want to have fumes pumping out the ceiling. I want like a SimCity ass,
Starting point is 00:10:04 like big smokestack pumping out resin fumes into the ceiling. I want like a Sim City ass, like big smoke stack pumping out resin fumes into the sky. Like every few minutes a skull and crossbones forms in the fumes that are coming out of the stack on the Mark factory. I want to make a product that you put over like a campfire and it just pumps out a skull and crossbones. Now I will say with fireworks they could probably do that. Maybe they could do it with smoke.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I've even been to the WEBN fireworks. Cincinnati has a radio station called WEBN and they do, well you two know, but I'm talking for everyone else. They do the big fireworks show every September, but like they spell out WEBN. So I'm sure there's a way to do that with smoke. I know that's a real thing,
Starting point is 00:10:39 but something about the way you said WEBN made me think you were having some kind of stroke or something. W-E-B-N. W-E-B-N made me think you were having some kind of stroke or something. W-E-B-N? W-E-B-N. It's just like a human normal. You know what? Anywho, if anyone knows resin printing out there, again, I've never done it before. If you have some printer that can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. One of the few times I'll take suggestions because this is... Canon inkjet? No. Canon PIXMA 925. Oh God, no. Inkjet printer copier scanner. Canon ligma 69. I know that Formlabs is like the top tier, but that's so ungodly expensive
Starting point is 00:11:23 that I don't want to. So if there's another one, I've heard good things about Heygears. So if anyone knows, let me know. All right, well, Mark's interests stay the exact same again. This is crazy. I, on the other hand, have something new
Starting point is 00:11:39 to bring to the table. Hey, what the hell, what are you doing? I'm not supposed to be here. I've never done this before. What are you talking about? What's going on? It finally happened what happened three of the people that watch this that care about sports the Bengals opened their wallets and spent money finally for the first time in their history and we got our two receivers
Starting point is 00:12:00 resigned and it didn't chase this contract like the biggest for a non QB in the history of sports? By 0.25 of a million, otherwise known as 250,000 a year. How much? Because I actually was talking to Tyler about one of the biggest non Q quarterback. Four years, 161 million dollars for Chase. And T was four years, 115 or something? 113, 115, something like that. His comes to like 28 million a year. Chase is just over 40 million a year. And like Chase's is like guaranteed for a lot of it and T Higgins is guaranteed for two years, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But I think there's other provisions in T's contract where he can earn a little bit more than 28 if he hits certain incentives. Whereas I think Chase is just, he's getting 40.25. This is crazy because I actually did talk to Tyler about this and that does go past the really recently former highest paid non quarterback, which was Cleveland, Miles Garrett with his $160 million expenses. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:59 it's like 0.5 million above that one. That's crazy. Ohio's spending. Miles Garrett did not do himself many favors reputation wise, but he will be living great financially. He spent the first half of the year like I am not playing in Cleveland. They could offer me every dime on the planet. I want out. I want to play for a contender. What about 40 million? I love Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I've always said I love Cleveland. I can't wait for the next football season to start and we can watch both of these great Ohio football clubs just win and win all of these hundreds of millions of dollars. They're expending onto these four people. If you include the quarterback in Cleveland, which I have no idea what's going to happen with the Deshaun Watson situation, but he gets his money either way pretty much. So all of these literally half a billion dollars almost totally going to bring us some super bowls, like five or six super bowls in the next decade. Well, we know Miles Garrett's going to want to sack Joe burrow. The way to keep him away is Joe keeps a couple extra dollars on his pocket and he just throws a dollar on the field and Miles will tackle that instead. Because it's about winning championships, not the doll. Ooh money? Hey do you think if we spent nearly 300 million on two receivers we're gonna have
Starting point is 00:14:19 enough money to buy anyone who plays defense or is that just gonna be kind of empty field for the other team? They're apparently talking to Trey Hendrickson who's our best defensive player they're apparently talking about resigning him and then we do have all the draft picks. I wish I had the kind of money to pay people to play sports Jesus Christ. We need a couple people in the secondary maybe another D end and we need a guard those are kind of our knees right now I think so. Why don't we just take Ohio, cannoli that shit, and have both teams meet in Columbus,
Starting point is 00:14:50 who has no football team right now, and just sandwich them in. The Clea-Fle-Nate Brown Tigers? I do not want to merge with Cleveland. They can stay, can we go with literally anyone else? No, no, no, just the football team. Just the football team. We're not merging the city.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Here's how I feel about Cleveland. I would rather us merge with Pittsburgh than Cleveland. How about for 140 million a year? I love Cleveland. I'm sure that it was all a ruse to get the big contract, or maybe there was truth to it that changed. Maybe he realized how annoying it would be to hold out and stuff, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But just the dedication in his voice to wanting to be on a contender to like immediately being like, richest non quarterback ever, you say? Well, I'll play here. I've never, not that I've ever had aspirations to win a Super Bowl that I've meaningfully pursued, but I find it hard to imagine a thing that you could want in life enough to where if someone was like Hey, if you work for us and don't win very many football games for the next four years But you get paid enough money that you don't ever need to worry about money
Starting point is 00:16:01 No matter what you do almost ever again? Maybe you wanna? I feel like I can't imagine a person who would be like, no, I need a Super Bowl. I couldn't possibly take $140 million. Like what the, I mean, maybe it's different. I'm not an athlete. I don't understand. I've never had, like it was never realistic that I was gonna win Super Bowl or go to the Olympics or whatever
Starting point is 00:16:27 But who could possibly I can do that. I can't imagine look Yeah, there's there's many things that you know money can't buy But at the same time if if what you had to do was play the game that you've trained all your life for For a more money than you've ever seen in your life You don't even have to compromise your morals or nothing Maybe your loyalty morals, but you know, it's not even that big a deal because treatment team trades people all the time. So He took the money too. So I'm not saying he's crazy But I I don't people people who are like, like he said, you want to be a contender.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, like you, if someone offered you a hundred million dollars, you wouldn't just give up on whatever your goal was at that moment in time. Be like, okay. Well, okay. If one team offers you 80 million and the other offers you a hundred, but one, you have a chance of winning. Like, I don't know about how you guys feel,
Starting point is 00:17:22 but the way I feel sitting here, I'm like, $80 million is a lot of money Yeah, but I'm assuming he didn't have that If he's been talking for half a season about wanting to get out of cleveland and it hadn't materialized yet I'm assuming that nobody else was like, oh we'll give you All the money we have well people people reached out cleveland was like we're not trading you They were gonna be they were gonna play hardball about it it So you might have had to sit out for a year. They owned his soul or something, huh? Yeah, he was still under contract. Yeah, but eventually this has to like pop right?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Like you can't wait every year players get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger salary It keeps going up in a crazy way like what other job other than sports does someone make more money? Like what other job other than sports does someone make more money every single year? Like our salaries don't go up like that. Have you ever been the CEO of something? Because I've heard good things about that. Yeah, but they're not even the CEOs. I'm not saying players shouldn't get paid. Owners make it up a seen amount of money, but like eventually there's going to be not any more money in the world
Starting point is 00:18:22 other than what athletes are getting paid because it's just insane. I got a funny story about how money works. Turns out it's just made up. If you can imagine a bigger number, there's some money. There's that much money now. But people aren't gonna generate enough revenue for this. That's not the point. Shareholders, shareholders. I don't know. I've been thinking about the economy a lot lately. We don't think it into economy stuff, but I'm like, man, this does not feel stable. It feels like we're approaching an unstable place in economy. No, it's like a bunch of dominoes, right? So one person doesn't have money.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So they lean on the next person for their money. And then that person they lean on the next person for their money. And then that person leans on the next person for their money. There's actually unlimited money because if you just keep leaning on the next one, it'll circle back around and lean on to the leaning person. Then they lean a little more. You see? You see? You get- Does it get through your thick skull now? Hmm? I forgot how dominoes fell very slowly and leany. And then when they get hit, they fall more.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, obviously. And then the best part about a domino is you put it at the top of this like pyramid shape, right? And then this domino leans on two more dominoes. And then- It's like a scheme. Yeah. It's a great scheme.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, I love this scheme. My favorite scheme. I'm not investing in your domino scheme That's my favorite metaphor. It's it's a house of cards cards stack forever The only requirement is you need enough suckers at the bottom to build it on As long as you keep piling up suckers The cards will go up and up and you're definitely not trapped at whatever level you happen to be at You'll be a top card the more weight you put on the bottom the less they can get away go up and up and you're definitely not trapped at whatever level you happen to be at, you'll
Starting point is 00:20:05 be a top card. The more weight you put on the bottom, the less they can get away. Yeah, they're really stuck down there. Like even if they wanted to give up those bottom cards are holding the system up, whether they like it or not. Yeah, they're essential. They're essential, but expendable. So shut up and be essential.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And that's my small talk. Uplifting win. Thank you. It started there. Bengals, yay, money, boo. It's amazing how much pro, man, I should have been a pro athlete. They don't tell you that when you're in high school
Starting point is 00:20:37 and you're like, oh, I wanna be a scientist or whatever. No, we should all aspire to be quarterbacks in the NFL. That's where the money is. You know, those guys retire at like the age of like 37, 40 years old. If you ignore the traumatic brain injuries, it's amazing. I'd have like two years left in my career then I'd have the rest of my life to sit on my money.
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Starting point is 00:21:25 on the Escape plug-in hybrid and all 2025 Escape models. For details, visit your Toronto area Ford store or ford.ca. Anyway, I have a topic for this episode. Let's go do that. The last episode, Mark did a sequel to one of his all-time greats. So I'm gonna do the exact same thing. Love it.
Starting point is 00:21:48 To one of my all-time greats. The original episode that this is a sequel for was called Bigger or Smaller. And it was a real good, I think we might've done two of those. I don't even remember. It was a good one. I think we have.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, that sounds right. I've got a new one, guys. Are you ready? I'm ready Faster or slower, right? Uh-huh faster, baby Yeah, it's already good. I can tell yes more. How do I take away claps? Suck those back in Faster or slower last time we did I'm just gonna say a thing and we're just gonna debate whether it'd be better if it was extremely fast
Starting point is 00:22:30 or extremely slow as compared to the way it actually works in the real world. And we can talk about the nitty gritty. Some of these don't make sense and we're gonna have to sort of establish a framework for what it even means for something to be faster or slow, but we'll get there, we'll get there. I'll start with one that we've kind of covered before
Starting point is 00:22:51 and I feel like the answer is obvious too, just to dip our toes in. Going to the bathroom. Would it be better if that was hyperbolically fast or glacially slow? Going to the bathroom, all both of those kinds of things too everyone has two right the hard kind or the liquid kind both how much faster we talk in here like a rocket ship there's a lot of splash damage like a like a reinforced titanium toilet faster ceramics
Starting point is 00:23:23 are not going to cut it and the slower is like, I'm gonna need all day for this? Yeah, well, so it's on both parts, right? So I'm imagining that the faster is like, you have to go, your meter builds up a lot faster. So you have to go a lot, but then you only need to go for like two seconds or something, right? So it happens in short, but it's, but so the slow one is like, you only need to go to the bathroom like once a week,
Starting point is 00:23:47 but then you're in the bathroom for like, I don't know, like 10 straight hours or something. Like it's- An hour. I know, so it's, there's a, I don't know what the scale is, right? But it's something like that where it's, it's faster in the doing it,
Starting point is 00:23:58 but it's also faster or slower in terms of like, how frequently that you have to come back around to it. Either way is going to be terrible on an airplane. All I gotta say is... Yeah. You got people that lined up and they're like, oh no! And then you just got... Punching holes through the fuselage. You can plan your flight day on your poop day though. You would know. You're like, ah, it's not Wednesday. I could fly any day but Wednesday no that's slow
Starting point is 00:24:27 that's slow though right if it's fast you gotta you know you can't take long flights slow is like you shit your pants and it's the guy from Austin Powers getting steamrolled you could still keep doing stuff while you were shitting your pants as long as you were gonna wrap it up and get home soon enough. Assuming you don't move in slow motion, you'd have plenty of time to get to a bathroom. You're like, it's starting. Everything while you're going to the bathroom, you also either move in super fast or super slow motion.
Starting point is 00:25:01 That might change it a little bit. That's like a superpower. If your pee-pee poo-poo lasts more than four hours consult a doctor this is a tough one this is really tough no I told you I picked an easy one to start with the answer should be obvious faster no slower he's added like a disappointed Barrett like no no I don't listen man having to go much more frequently like that I would rather dedicate a day to pooping at least I could plan for it playing around it imagine like you go to the bathroom you're like done and then you wash your hands you go back out like 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:25:39 later like time to go again or how frequent if you're pooping for 10 hours I mean it's it's it's up for debate, right? We have to establish I'm allowing you to imagine however it would pan out and make your argument So it's not like every five seconds you have to go to the bathroom or something It has to be able to live a life. Is it just me or everyone? It's just it's just you Society could change how bathrooms are designed, but, no, no, no, no. This is an aberration. It's just you. You have to live with it. You're only a two hour car ride. There's several shit and runs that you're doing with your ass
Starting point is 00:26:14 out the window. If you got to go every few seconds. I mean, maybe you just need to build a toilet in your car. If that's your life. Really big diaper, really thick diaper diapers. I'm more worried about the much more frequent urination part of it oh if it's coming out harder to give a fucking power watch yeah that's a thing yeah yeah that's a thing that will not contain it you special special Kevlar
Starting point is 00:26:38 diapers special ripstop diapers that's very expensive well you just need like a an outer diaper right you put on your normal depends and then you put your Kevlar outer layer on so that you can kind of you're still gonna eat through the depends though if your urine's like yeah but this it still has like the absorbative quality it'll it'll be a mess I'm not saying it won't be a mess but like it'll be it'll be inside the Kevlar you know so you won't just be blasting everyone around you with pee I hate it
Starting point is 00:27:07 also if you do use a toilet if you're like two seconds shit the amount of time you're gonna spend cleaning up after you would have to Completely redesign because you are there is something horrible left behind You got like food poisoning or something you you get like really bad, like diarrhea. By the time you're done wiping and cleaning up, you have to go again. Like, no! Ah, no! This is more like you walk into the room and it looks like someone drew a body in chalk outline, but that's just the part of the wall where your body shielded it from the shit that just exploded out.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Alright, well, is everyone sticking with their answer? Slow. Explode it out. All right. Well is everyone sticking with their answer? I think fast because I would develop a System to handle it and also it's a good defensive mechanism Hmm. Look at mark whenever the predator approaches he bends over and shits it away. You keep focusing on the shit I'm focused on the urination part of it. I'm focused on like water cutting just pressures. Think about a line at like a theme park. Like everyone just like, well, I guess just you, right?
Starting point is 00:28:14 It's just you. Uh huh, just you. You could never, you'd have to get fast pass or something every single time. Cause you're like, I can't wait in a line. You think you'd be allowed into the theme park. Eventually the public would understand what's going on with you and you would not be permitted in art museums anywhere. There's
Starting point is 00:28:32 large crowds of people. It would become a situation. Breaking news, the potent pisser is struck again. Hey, if this is my villain arc and I have to go between this and slow, I choose fast. Live life in the fastening It's a really good villain power. Didn't we have a superhero that was pissed base? We had a battle between piss man and shit man. Yeah piss man and shit man. It was like a superhero fight. Yeah The two wolves inside of me one's shit man one's piss man. Give me slow man. I'll take my time I'll have my like dedicated day to use in the restroom and I'll have the rest of the week free.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I can plan around it very easily and I can do other things while using the restroom. You just make that chair your toilet. Yeah, easy. I like both of your answers. A point for fast piss and slow poop. Thank you. This is exactly how I hope this would go. Alright, I have another one.
Starting point is 00:29:26 This is more of a, I will push the boundaries of this one with, we're going to have to decide what exactly this means, but I experiencing spicy food. I struggle, like I like a, I like a Buffalo wing, right? But there's like a, I have a low threshold for what's too spicy for me. And this is a thing where it's like, if you ate just like, it was apocalyptically, if you ate a spoonful of pure capsaicin or whatever, and would you experience it as a slow, a super slow thing or a super fast thing? And how, what does that look like?
Starting point is 00:29:58 So I have something to say about the previous answer. Wade, imagine you had diarrhea and you had 10 hours of excruciating pain on the toilet from your slow slow poop that's why I keep my morphine bag by the toilet. Yeah no you would need like IV fluids and stuff that would be a whole situation would you also vomit slow? It's all bodily fluids Oh, if it's all bodily fluids that changes some things we didn't really address that that's not fair hold on Yeah, if you bleed slower, that means like your arm gets cut off. You're like, I've only got ten hours to find a doctor It's like a hydraulic hose Anything could leak out of you is dangerous my blood pressure is in the millions
Starting point is 00:30:51 Dude, you blow your nose and you might take out your hand It's your superpower is you you keep you keep blood sugar lancets like diabetic lancet and you just like Laser beam everyone clear the room. I feel a sneeze coming on. Run! Watching a sad movie, you're like, Amy, Amy, you gotta go. I'm gonna cry. Anyway, back to this one. Yeah, what were we talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Oh, spicy food. So this one is, yeah, come up with a conclusion and explain it to me. Clarifying question here. Slow buildup, does that mean it's also like slower to go away? So like if you drink milk or something afterward, it wouldn't have an effect for longer? Yeah, it's a long, I'm imagining, I guess, it's like a long arc, right?
Starting point is 00:31:37 So it's sort of slow and it builds to the same peak of like spiciness. But I guess this is for me a thing where the thing that gets me with spicy food, usually for me is the panic, where I'll eat something and I'm like, ooh, it's spicy. Ooh, ah, oh, wait, it's too spicy.
Starting point is 00:31:56 It's like, what do I think is gonna happen? It's not like I'm going to pass away because this is spicy. It just is spicy. But I have that feeling in me of like, oh, oh, it's oh god. If it was slower, you have you could have a lot more time to be like, this is yeah, it's spicy. But you're like settled, right? You're adjusting. You maintain you maintain an equilibrium as you're experiencing the spiciness. Is it kind of stretching the entire experience out along so it maybe it
Starting point is 00:32:23 doesn't peak as high, but because it's taking all of the burn that you would feel stretching it out, or is it still just as much? Because I would think the fast would be all the pain that you would experience just right here. So it's like the peak is way higher, but it's for like a second, but it's also like getting a nuke in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:42 So yeah, so it's like a total volume thing, let's say. So like the volume under the curve for the fast one, it's a very narrow, very tall curve, but it has the same amount of like space. So for the slow one, it's like you're saying, it like flattens out and stretches out. It's the same general amount of volume of whatever. I'm feeling fast.
Starting point is 00:33:07 There's something almost exciting to me about the thought of like a half second, like, whoa, whoa, that was crazy, let's do it again. I don't know, but if it goes away fully, very quickly, like the annoying thing about the heat is that you're just like, like the fact that you're like just gasping for milk or something, like it's burning for a while. A quick burn? Feels like it would be less terrible to me. Here's where I say slow.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And I under- trust me. I understand where Wade's coming from. I understand. I get it, Wade. Oh, I get it. Thank you. I'll take the point. But, one of the side effects of spicy foods and capsaicin and stuff like that is the endorphin release So I'm thinking if it's a much longer up than the down where you start to feel all the endorphins go is Also gonna be like basically a high so you get to not go as
Starting point is 00:34:01 Sustained heat which I can I can handle some hot stuff I've eaten a lot of hot things, probably my tolerance is less, but even if it goes really still very high and is there longer, that arc, and like what Bob was saying, like he could do get used to it. And then that arc, it's like the endorphins
Starting point is 00:34:16 are just gonna be cruising for ages. Yeah, well, cause that's even with the way spicy food is normally that's kind of the thing, right? Like I haven't done it really but I've seen you do hot sauce and there's like a cycle where you do it and you start it and you're like But you reach a point where it's still basically that level of spicy, but you're just like ah It's gonna be okay And you start to get the like the endorphins or something and it kid it changes, right? Does that mean Wade's gonna get a spike of endorphins just as- Dude it's gonna be so hot.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You're gonna get so hooked on it. Every 30 seconds you're gonna be like Can't eat some more! Not only that yeah if it's like every second I'm like Ah! Next bite. Ah! I can have as many endorphins as I want very quickly. I don't know. The slow build up would suck. I think I'm okay with that. You're want very quick. I don't know the slow build-up would suck
Starting point is 00:35:05 I think I'm okay with that. You're a masochist though. Like we know that well You wanted the high intensity because it'd be so fun. You said that your words about it goes away quick though I can be quickly over when I got pepper sprayed when me and Ethan got pepper spray Oh, yeah, you did that. It was about the same as eating a pepper going up and then the arc of it 15 minutes You know, that's about what eating something really spicy will last It was about the same as eating a pepper going up and then the arc of it 15 minutes, you know That's about what eating something really spicy will last This was very painful and I wouldn't recommend doing it again But the downturn that lasted all day and it was annoying
Starting point is 00:35:35 But it wasn't that bad like it was just one of those things where mmm My face feels warm and every once and all is like, yeah, huh? That's odd But if I think about that in terms of like, if that was also the go up on the other side and I didn't have the intensity of like, getting pepper sprayed, that wouldn't be as bad. Yeah, but if you have to deal with the pain for like, hours instead of, or I don't know how long it lasted,
Starting point is 00:35:57 but like the increasing intensity for that long. There is something about spicy food that is not just painful, it is kind of pleasant for those who like to eat a lot of spicy things like Told you Bob Masochist No, but see that's the thing is I don't I don't do spicy food a lot But I feel that too when I'm in the right mood and I and I there are certain like Sauces I know like wing sauces or like flavored things where it's like this is a spice level
Starting point is 00:36:20 I know I can handle it's like right up right under my tolerance the experience you have when I eat those things when I'm in the mood the experience of like building that up and getting the prolonged nature of it like Michael your whole face is like watering or whatever and you're like in it. It is it's fun That's part of the fun of it is you're like, I'm I'm surviving this it's fun. It's doing something doing something. I feel alive. I got stuff to do I don't have all day to be building up heat like You got two days a week to poop
Starting point is 00:36:53 Okay, hold on we that keeps increasing I don't like this the spice man I don't know that the slow buildup would be the anticipation of how bad it could get Would stress me out or is at least just the quick I'm like over and done, but it is also way higher I get where weight is going from but I think I'm gonna go with mark on this one. I like the slow I will say I will say this this debate in other context is not going away So the this sort of experiential faster slower thing there's, there's other opportunities to litigate this again. Good, you better agree with me on the next one,
Starting point is 00:37:29 because I was been right twice in a row. You're never wrong, Wade, even when I disagree with you vehemently. This one I think is interesting, charging and discharging batteries. So my thinking on this one is like your cell phone, right? Right now, when I plug my iPhone into a fast charger, which I have, most of my charges I use
Starting point is 00:37:49 are pretty high wattage chargers. I can go from like 20% to 80% in like, I think it's like 20 minutes or 30 minutes or something. It's fairly quick, right? And that buys me a full maybe day, day and a half of use, depending on what I'm doing. This is like the speed at which you use up the battery goes up, but also you only have to plug it in
Starting point is 00:38:10 for 15 seconds. So literally like, you know, your phone battery only lasts six hours, but you can just be like, boop, boop, full charge or something like that. And the opposite is true. Similar to what we were talking about with the bathroom stuff, right? Your phone battery is like seven days,
Starting point is 00:38:28 but then it needs 18 hours on a charger. And so you can charge it incrementally, but it just gains and loses charge percentage at that kind of speed. So if you charge your phone for a couple hours, you only gain 10% battery or something. And it can be other electronics. The phone was the example that I was thinking of
Starting point is 00:38:46 for this one, but batteries in general. Could be EVs, could be all other electronics you use, well, whatever, batteries, faster or slower. Okay, so I actually experienced something like this with my truck, my beautiful electric truck, my incredible electric truck. Chevy, call me. They've already called me. Truck my incredible electric truck Chevy They've already called me call me back
Starting point is 00:39:11 Charges overnight right if you charge it at home it takes about 12 hours to get that battery full. It's huge But you know, it's a relatively powerful charger at home Not quite like fast charging out in the wild But it takes 12 hours to charge and that thing lasts like a week or more depending on how much I'm driving so it kind of experiences that slow charge slow discharge kind of thing but also if that thing could charge up in a minute even if it only lasts like one day or half a day no that's the thing right that's what EVs is an interesting example of this because people who are not in favor of EVs or think that they're not
Starting point is 00:39:47 because they've never actually lived with one are like, yeah, well, you can't just go to the gas station for five minutes, right? You gotta stop at a char, I drive an EV, I've never fucking stopped at a supercharger in my entire life. Literally, I think three or four times ever, two of those times were because I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:04 huh, I've never used a super charger before. I wonder how fast it charges. And then I did it and I was like 10 minutes later, I was like, okay, and we left. You charge it at home. If you could have a charger at home, if it could get you through a whole day and you could just plug it in in your garage at home
Starting point is 00:40:18 and it would be charged in half an hour or something, that would be crazy. It would also make road trips really cool. Even if it was only like 100 to 150 miles of actual range or something that would be crazy it would also make road trips really cool if even if it was only like a hundred to 150 miles of actual range or something right like half or less half or less than what the longest range EVs currently get so maybe even say like hundred or less miles of range but you only need to stop for like five minutes ten minutes to charge it up every however often. Like there's some balance there.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Changes the way I feel like people would see that and the usability of it. Great thinking, great thinking, but slow is the correct answer. Really? Yes. Okay, you guys are thinking about like normal, best case scenarios, like, oh, I got a charge less,
Starting point is 00:41:03 I still get a day's worth when it takes 30 minutes. But what if you don't have your charger? What if an end of the world apocalyptic event lasts or you're just out somewhere, you're lost in the desert? You need that phone to last as long as possible. Longer lasting is much more important than charging. Chargers come a dime a dozen. You can have a portable charger, charging is getting easier,
Starting point is 00:41:22 more portable, more convenient, but longer lasting, something that lasts just days or weeks. Imagine not having to charge your phone and you don't have access to a charger, and it's like, that's okay, it's got three weeks on the battery. That is nuts. I will take that. Cause charging, easy.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I have to sleep, charge while I sleep. A portable charger, plug it in while I'm walking around. Like, we got these little thingies now just sit on our desk. They just set your phone on it. Still even use it. Easy peasy. I was gonna make fun of you, but my phone is actually literally sitting on a stand
Starting point is 00:41:54 on that exact charger that came with my phone, I think. I feel like this prompt needs some clarification because it's like, it's not an either or this situation because it's kind of like, this is what it is. If you have a bigger battery, then yeah, it takes longer to charge, but it's like, it's not an either or this situation because it's kind of like, this is what it is. If you have a bigger battery, then yeah, it takes longer to charge, but it's like, it must be like the device doesn't function once it's out of batteries until it's charged to full, right?
Starting point is 00:42:16 Cause that way in the fast, it doesn't work till it's full. And then the slow, it doesn't work till it's full. And only when it hits full is when it starts. Well, that would change if that's the way things work, but they don't at the moment. No, this is a hypothetical scenario. I think it's a hypothetical that you think benefits you. It affects both ways.
Starting point is 00:42:33 How dare you. Yeah, because if my fast charging, if I just keep it plugged in all the time, it would never run out either. And if you keep your slow charging plugged in all the time, it would never run out either. So they're both functionally the same. I came into this with a preconceived notion and I hate Wade's argument so much. Okay. It almost changed my mind away from
Starting point is 00:42:54 what was originally my answer, which was to agree with Wade on this one, which was slow. It didn't. I'm going to go with slow batteries. Why is BuzzBurger so bad? I just, I thought about this one. This was part of the reasonurger so bad? I just, I thought about this one. This was part of the reason I wanted to do this episode. I thought about this for a long time myself. And the thing I came to would be, Mark is right. The world would fundamentally be different in a world where either of these different qualities
Starting point is 00:43:18 of batteries existed. And I want a world where batteries are slow in the way that we're talking about, but everything is designed with an understanding that that's the case, and batteries are designed to be swappable. Batteries in electric vehicles, you don't have to plug your car in to charge it,
Starting point is 00:43:37 you just literally go to a station and pull out the dead battery and put in a fully charged battery. And it doesn't matter if it takes forever to charge those batteries as long as, and same with your phone, right? My phone's battery is part of the reason it's shitty is that modern phones, you can't change the batteries.
Starting point is 00:43:54 This wasn't always the case. I remember the last smartphone I had where you could take the back panel off and pop the battery. I had another battery. It was fucking awesome. That was in the era where batteries on smartphones only lasted like eight hours. So you kind of had to do that if you were like, like, you know That was in the era where batteries on smartphones only lasted like eight hours.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So you kind of had to do that if you were like, I got out in the world and couldn't plug it in all the time. But in that world where batteries are slow, but you get a lot of life out of them, you just swap the batteries. And that solves the conundrum of, oh, well my phone needs to be plugged into charge so I can't, I'm tethered to the wall
Starting point is 00:44:23 or my car needs to be plugged into charge so I can't drive it once the battery is dead, like all that shit. That, it'd be a whole other world. But I think that would be awesome. This is a forgotten thing about phones, but now that you say that it's so universal in literally any other technology. Why is all electronics integrated batteries? You can't fucking remove? It's so stupid I don't know cuz cameras cameras are all interchangeable batteries because if you had if you had to plug your Camera in every time you wanted to do something and shall wait for it to charge nothing would happen. It ruins its usability
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, why don't we have? Battery stations where you drive your EV in there? Ka-chunk. Here you go. Ka-chunk and you drive up. You rent propane tanks the same way. I will say, I believe there is, I don't know if it's a specific brand of cars or like a specific car line or something. In China, I think, or somewhere in Asia, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's in testing, possibly. It's not like it's everywhere, but they're working on a thing where it's like there are essentially battery gas stations and you pull your car in and It's like they yoke out the battery pack give you a fresh one You drive away and they go and do that That's a thing that like someone in the world has thought of and is trying to do or is doing but and same with phones I'm sure there are someone out there who's like, oh, you just need to get the right phone. Like, yeah, but I also don't want to be a green bubble. Like I understand I get what I get.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And being an Apple user comes with all of the ups and downs that come with that. But wouldn't an iPhone be better if you could just pop the battery out real quick? Like, would it really destroy the fundamental design ethos of an iPhone if the back panel could pop off or had some thumbscrew, some kind of cool design to where you could pop a new battery
Starting point is 00:46:12 in that some bitch and it would be not a problem. Would it really destroy? No, it wouldn't, but then Apple wouldn't sell as many new iPhones because when your iPhone that's two years old only holds a charge for 10 hours, it's fucking annoying. And so you go buy a new phone because that's the world that we live in I think I made a great argument and it was put down way too quickly and easily
Starting point is 00:46:32 No, I think your argument was so awful It almost lost you a point that you basically had guaranteed going in Your argument for slow batteries is what if the apocalypse happened? Okay, you go camping you go boating You're out somewhere where you don't have easy access to a charger. Well, you should probably plan for that and bring something that gives you electricity. No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I'm on your side, I don't know, I'm being mad at you, but just. I don't know about you, but I feel like products 50 years ago lasted longer than products now. And everyone's like, man, I wish I didn't have to buy a new vacuum every year. You weren't alive 50 years ago. No, but we had a fucking vacuum from back
Starting point is 00:47:08 then growing up and it still worked. We had a stove from back then and it worked for a hell of a long time. Shit breaks so fast. Look, I'm not at all going to argue against the notion that plain obsolescence is definitely a part of the world we live in now and that lots of stuff is designed to become shitty so you have to buy a new one. That's definitely a thing. But also in every generation of technology, some of them are built better than others
Starting point is 00:47:36 and there are definitely things in our lifetimes from the 90s, 2000s, 2010s, where if you had bought the correct one, it would be a thing you could own for the rest of your life. It is harder to do that. It is less common for a product to be made that way, but as I would argue without specifically picking an example, you could still do that, but it's expensive. That, when you buy a vacuum and there's one vacuum that's $100 and there's one vacuum that's $500 or $700, it's hard to justify spending seven, 500, 600,
Starting point is 00:48:11 whatever on a vacuum when you could get it for a fifth of the price, unless the $500 one is going to last you for 40 years. But it's hard to know that it's like, I'm not arguing against your point at all, but I do think it's still possible. I own things that I think I'm gonna own for the rest of my life. Electronic things? No.
Starting point is 00:48:32 That's kind of what we're going with here. The problem is with increasing technological complexity, there comes a lot more points of failure. This is not so much a planned obsolescence as a statistical guarantee that if you increase the number of points of failure, there are going to be more failures. And therefore things do fail more often and its lifetime does decrease. Not that they can't make a system that has a lot of, you know, complex
Starting point is 00:49:02 systems and will last forever, but it's also an extremely expensive thing. And generally speaking, products trend down in price and I don't know how things balance for inflation. Do you think they intentionally make things now to try to last as long as possible? Well, I think they try to make things as cheap as possible. What I'm saying is like the lasting is not part of their decision for most of the industries. It's just cheap and therefore it does. Cheap and complex, that's where the two axes come down and it gets to where it doesn't last as long.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm cynical enough to believe that it's intentionally made cheap and complex so that they can sell more to make more. Yes, yeah, that is absolutely it. So I think there is a system where you could have a modern vacuum that has suck power that also lasts more than like two years. It's called the Dyson and it costs like a thousand dollars. I will say we owned a Dyson least reliable vacuum we ever had.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That's what I thought. Right. When we bark, I hated your argument so much. I agree with me. No, but I was with you. But I, that's the thing the thing right is it's hard It's hard to tell now that we're in the future from 50 years ago It's easy for us to look at stuff and be like look at this thing
Starting point is 00:50:14 This thing was built in the 50s or 60s or whenever look at it stood the test of time Yeah, well, we fucking know that now don't we there were products that were built back then that didn't stand the test of time that we have never heard of and so you have to like you have to have some knowledge or Faith in a company and what they're trying to do and if they're do if their goal is to build something that lasts you the Rest of your life you have to kind of get lucky and or have enough knowledge and do enough research that you find a thing Where it's like yeah This is a this, this is a, this I think is a product that will last me forever
Starting point is 00:50:47 without having any test samples because this is a product that didn't exist before three years ago or whatever. But yeah, we had, we spent the money. We were like, let's get a nice vacuum. We've only ever owned like, you know, like cheapo whatever vacuums, cause we were college kids, let's get a Dyson.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It's on sale, It's still expensive. Let's do it. We'll own this thing. It broke after five years. It just, it just stopped working. It, it had some sort of issue with an electronic and it stopped charging and we got a different battery and that just fucking broke. You know, in my, in my head, when you said five years, I was like, Oh, that's a long time. And then I realized what we're talking about. Exactly. I will say, um, Oh, that's a long time. And then I realized what we're talking about. Exactly. I will say, yeah, that is that is the decision that consumers need to make of like, what is worth their money? Because the only time that I can remember where the cost went up because of
Starting point is 00:51:37 consumer decisions is with cars, like in that era, where they were extremely unsafe. And they basically were deathtraps. If you got in an accident at 30 miles an hour, your chance of survival is very slim. But because consumers were like we want safer cars and safer cars are more expensive to make, car manufacturers started to make safer cars that were harder to manufacture with crumple zones and safety features and all these kind of things because that's what consumers they wouldn't buy the death trap ones. You know, I don't know why I'm doing quotes. They were death traps. That's how you say it. Death traps, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:09 but that's one of the few times where they go towards that. There's plenty of things that are available for purchase today that are usually reliable, but more expensive and people do tend to go for the cheaper stuff. But that's up to everybody's decision. No, I still generally agree with a way to point point I think planned obsolescence is definitely a thing and it sucks isn't it like it's not realistic to buy a thing that costs multiple times more than what it should cost to buy the one that is just on the shelf at the regular store just because you think it might last your
Starting point is 00:52:41 whole life because then if it doesn't you spent a thousand fucking dollars on a Dyson vacuum that you threw into the dump when you moved. I'm not mad about it. I'm not mad about it at all. We have a Dyson vacuum and it's fine. I just don't expect it or any of them to last a long time, nothing lasts.
Starting point is 00:52:56 You know who makes products built to last? Prusa. If you want a 3D printer that's gonna last you. That's right, you've had yours for at least two weeks now. That plastic is gonna be on earth after humanity's long extinct. Plastic's not going anywhere, man. The earth is gonna be coated in a shell of plastic,
Starting point is 00:53:13 eventually. So if we just print plastic covers for all of the electronics, electronics can't go bad. Then they'll never break, yeah. All right, well, we're gonna move on from that to something that I'm sure won't be contentious. Faster or slower taxes. And this is one where if you live outside America,
Starting point is 00:53:37 it might be hard to connect. The tax systems are very different in other places. But in America, the way it works is, once a year, on April 15th, you have to pay your taxes and you have to guess exactly what that number might be. And if you're wrong, the government gets real upset about it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 They don't tell you how much they owe, you owe to the government, or even though the government knows, because all the documents you get from your employer or from other sources of income, if you sell stuff online or like we do, we get stuff from like YouTube and from doing the podcast stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:09 All those documents that you get that tell you about your income, those are all filed with the government. Those documents exist because the company that made them to give them to you, made them, sent them to the government, and then also sent them to you. And it's your job to figure out
Starting point is 00:54:24 what fucking magical math you need to job to figure out what fucking magical math you need to do to figure out exactly what amount you might owe or not owe the government in taxes. So once a year, that's the bullshit and we're in it right now. I don't know if you guys are stressed about it, but I have been for the last couple of weeks bothering myself with taxes.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So obviously this was on my mind because it's a tax season. Yay. I hate tax season, but I deal with taxes year round because I'm my accountant. I have an accountant. And that's the thing too, if you have like where, where we have businesses because of the nature of what we do with YouTube and that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I also pay taxes year round, but tax day is still a once a year thing. So I'm kind of looking at this through a simplified perspective on it, but would it be better if your taxes were faster or slower than that system? Faster means from the sky descends a giant Vacuum tube that goes to your house or chases you down and starts sucking your money out reverse Santa You put your money in the chimney every night
Starting point is 00:55:23 You know the thing the grids shove down the chimney that sucked up all the money in the chimney every night. The other thing, the grid shoved down the chimney that sucked up all the presents in the cat too. It's that, but it's sucking your money out and you're like, you gotta hold on the one way ATM. So does that mean you pay taxes like every day, every hour? I don't, I hadn't specifically thought that this one very much, but yeah, something like, I mean, kind of like what Mark's saying or like something where it's like Every single transaction you do which is mostly true depending on what state you live in anyway But every single transaction you do the tax is wrapped up into it instead of paying an income tax
Starting point is 00:55:56 What if it was just like sales tax on everything and don't want to discuss the philosophy And ethics of tax systems. Don't come at me about, oh, well that unduly burned. Yeah, I know, I know. But we're just talking about like, is it better or worse? Okay, slower would be what? You pay once a decade? Yeah, slower would be like,
Starting point is 00:56:16 you pay taxes for each quarter of your life. Your life is assumed to be a certain length. Say you live, they're like, okay, we're all gonna live to be 80 years old because that Bob doesn't do math and that's a nice easy one. So every 20 years, it's tax time and you pay taxes on a quarter of your life.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And it's awful. It's like a year of taxes or more. It's forever. But then you don't have to think about that shit for a couple of decades. Is that better or worse faster or slower? Faster I feel like there'd be a system to develop that make it very easy Plus if you already knew like okay, I went and bought this today or I went and I earned this today
Starting point is 00:56:56 Someone gave me 20 bucks to cut their lawn. I just immediately am like, alright. Well, I made 50 bucks today I owe this there you go Alright, well I made 50 bucks today. I owe this. There you go It'd be annoying but like it's a minor inconvenience that doesn't add a lot and the numbers stay small It's already annoying as fuck like so talking to my having an accountant even if you didn't have an accountant and you're looking through and you're Like what the hell was this expense on my account in February of last year? I don't remember that if you had to do that for like fucking 25 years, you're like, Oh, yes, what did I buy six relationships ago on a Tuesday at 6 p.m. from a company called DVR 96 750 216. Is that taxable or that would suck so much?
Starting point is 00:57:39 If I just had to do it today, get it over with, I know what I did today, even with his memory as bad as mine. Okay, fine. I owe 20 bucks. I owe 5 bucks. Whatever today, get it over with, I know what I did today. Even with his memory as bad as mine, okay, fine, I owe 20 bucks, I owe five bucks, whatever, just get it over with. That would be so much simpler than having to go back. Even though I only do it four times in my life, like, dude, I would just wish for death that whole year. I think I agree with Wade. As much as my body physically rejects the idea,
Starting point is 00:58:02 I think he's right. Because this is how it happens anyway you go to a cash register it says tax right on there you pay that amount shouldn't that be it? I taxed right there then in there it happened I don't have that anymore so all right we're done right if I get my paycheck and I look at it as taxes withheld all right, we're good, right? You took it. Yeah, that's a lovely thing about American system. Why do they withhold taxes, but not do it correctly?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Like I understand it's more complicated than that and their math, but that just makes it more complicated. Like it's painful in our line of work is doing YouTube and stuff. No one withholds our shit. No one withholds taxes generally, right? We get money for the advertisements just for YouTube, for example.
Starting point is 00:58:53 They send that to us. And then we have to pay the taxes on it. That sucks because early on in our careers, I don't know if it ever hit you guys, but there were definitely a couple of years where it got around to tax season and and I sat down and was like alright alright that's I didn't realize that I had that much YouTube ad rev or whatever and oh my god I owe how much money yeah and what the fuck hey hang on
Starting point is 00:59:16 the first two years that I started like doing it and like you know like had an accountant and they were like oh yeah it looks like you owe this. And I was like, I know what you're doing. Yeah, well, and then they're like, no, you actually made this like, but if you know ahead of time, like now that I know how that works, it's not that bad that I have to do it myself. It's really, it's really not. I just know out of every like income that I get, I'm like, ah, about 30, 40% of that, whatever I need to save that for tax season and like you the withholdings and the getting a return the government just has some of your money for some of the
Starting point is 00:59:53 year because your employers too stupid to calculate your debt why is it anyway well I play I already pay I'm sure we all do quarterly estimates and then you have to pay the actual one and state whatever. All right, differentiate so I can pick who gets points. How fast? Wade said daily. Are you sticking with, do you wanna stick with like daily tax settling? If we could do it,
Starting point is 01:00:14 every purchase just automatically done or I could just like. Do we still have to file? Yes. Is that what we're saying? So there's have to, there would be some level of efficiency with it. So like, if it was like weekly, say,
Starting point is 01:00:27 yeah, you have to file, but maybe it's like a thing you do on an app, right? Like maybe weekly, every week on Friday or something, you pull up your phone and for like a minute, you're like beep boop, yep, approve, done, filed. It's not like you have to like do what we do now, where it's like you fill out paperwork, you have to mail it, you have to like do what we do now where it's like you fill out paperwork You have to mail it you have to mail hard copies all this shit. It's
Starting point is 01:00:47 Simplified to reflect this the faster part I guess to be realistic it has to be when you get paid if you get paid once a month or once every two weeks Like that's whenever you'd be filing it wouldn't be for your things You're buying because that taxes are taken out that's me income based So I guess the most frequent you could do it is however frequently you get paid I mean that could be modified because the way payments currently work is not set in stone or anything that you could do that However, we want but yeah, like it would make sense for it to reflect around that. I'll stick with just daily Tap-tap. These were my expenses tap-tap like I feel like that's easier to keep track of rather than having to think back at all
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's like what I do today. I had to buy a new monitor. Boop boop done. What did I do today? I needed a new cord for... That monitor is not going to last you the rest of your life. I got bad news. Literally just got a text from my accountant, which is kind of weird. Stop! Stop talking!
Starting point is 01:01:38 What are you doing? Don't give me more work. Mark, do you have a different opinion? Honestly, yeah, I also have an accountant. So I'm going to... Well, honestly, I also have an accountant, so I'm gonna... Well, honestly, it's kind of necessary in what we do because shit gets really complicated really quickly when you have to... It's like it's a scam to prop up a whole industry. We want to keep the score even so that you have to do a one-man show, Bob. That's our goal.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Well, it's already not even, but I guess you both get a point for that. Oh, one of us needs to unfair it then oh I said it anyway Either we both get two points or we both get none. Yeah, you heard the man Tails oh well mine doesn't even matter. All right, I've got a couple more. The growth speed of your fingernails and toenails, fast or slow? Fast.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Slow. How would you want to clip more often? It's already slow, let's experience some speed. Okay, but remember the consequence. Fast nails, clipping your nails takes five seconds. They grow fast, you clip fast. Slow nails, clipping your nails takes five seconds. They grow fast you clip fast slow nails clipping your toenails Your fingernails takes an hour and a half even better because slow means I've got more natural weapons if they're harder to clip and break Yeah, I don't even need a pocket knife I'm just like
Starting point is 01:03:00 I don't like that. That doesn't sound good. That sounds, I already accidentally scratched myself and have a child who, if I'm not careful and my nails are too long, I can scratch. You gotta, like, I don't need weapons permanently attached to my fingers. Everything is plenty dangerous enough. All right, working out fast or slow? Fast.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And I'll explain it. Never, God damn it. No, you can stick with that. It's the it takes less time to work out. But also you get even more like you the exhaustion is the same and the result is fast, but the decay is also fast. All of the parts of it are fast, right? So it's not like you can just work out fast and then do it
Starting point is 01:03:43 less and then be you you get fit fast and you get unfit fast. And so you have to keep working out just in quicker, shorter segments and same with slow. So before a photo shoot, you really do just like, oof, boop, boop, boop. I'll take fast. Mark still takes fast. Wade, fast or slow?
Starting point is 01:04:03 Oh, give me slow. If I could still be in shape for my high school days of working out every day. Oh my God. It's like workout for a couple years of your life and then ride that forever. Like everyone, we're doing a year of basketball content. Why?
Starting point is 01:04:16 So I can be lazy the rest of my life. Yeah, I gotta go with slow. I like that one. We've covered this on different episodes in the past before and it's gonna feel like a personal attack, but I promise it's not, Wade. Hair, fast or slow? Slow.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I like being bald and the less I gotta shave, the better. He's right. You're both right and this is a weird one, but I like getting haircuts and the idea of like a nice, long, relaxing haircut sounds kinda nice. It'd be like a spa day, I'm imagining almost kind of on board with that I just don't like getting haircuts because for some well it's my own fault because I don't go to
Starting point is 01:04:51 the same person so every time it's a real gamble no I do that too and it is a real gamble but I like the reward of when you go and you you get a good person and you're like ah man this is this is the best. Cause a bad haircut, it's fine, but it's not, it's whatever, not that bad. But a good hair, that's surprisingly good haircut. How long would a haircut take in slow? I guess it wouldn't matter if you only do it once every hour long.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah, I mean, I'm imagining it'd be like a whole day or something, you have to be kind of, cause hair, I don't know, what's a hair, how long do you think a haircut is? Okay, to be bald, man, I gotta shave a little bit more frequently than most people so it's like it takes We'll say an hour every week or two if unless you're keeping with a daily because daily you can kind of get one of those Things just go over it a little bit Maintaining bald is harder than maintaining hair as far as like the shaving you got you do a lot more frequently
Starting point is 01:05:38 Anyway, we all agreed. I only have one more so let's just do it and get over with faster slow mark. You're up first I only have one more, so let's just do it and get over with. Fast or slow, mark your up first. Doctors, my vision for this one is kinda like the spicy food. You go to the doctor and if it's fast, you go in and the doctor's like, all right, we're gonna have to do a procedure. And they take a huge machine and just,
Starting point is 01:05:57 and for like a second, you're just like, ah! But then you're healed, surgery over, done, fast doctor. There's no question that fast is better because we already live in the slow world This is what we have and I don't I've never gone to the hospital in it not taking six hours just to see someone and and I'm Usually dying when that's happening not as dying as much as many people they're dying But if I don't get help eventually, my gut would explode in the past times I've been there.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And that's pretty deathly. So fast, yes, please, I like fast. Just to give it a fighting chance, the slow is a lot, the spicy too, right? The maximum threshold for like the amount of pain you have to deal with, the amount of discomfort, the amount of being like naked and like, or the amount of discomfort, the amount of being like naked and like or awkwardly doing like it's lower right? It's not as bad. It takes longer
Starting point is 01:06:52 but there's no oh you're gonna feel a pinch and then it feels like they're stabbing you with a hot poker for 10 minutes while they're trying to do some shit to you or get a biopsy or something. I've been stabbed with a hot poker for 10 minutes for a biopsy. And let me tell you, they also have medicine at this hospital. And if it acts fast too, even if it doesn't last as long, I'll take it. I have to agree with fast, even though I will say the thought of a very fast, like prostate exam or something, the kind of terrifying. It's like one of those Tesla plugs that was supposed to plug itself in
Starting point is 01:07:27 it's just like boys and they're like stand up squat down a little lower bend over YAAA no cancer got your prostate and a lot of women are avoiding the gynecologist with fast
Starting point is 01:07:41 like anything like that sounds terrible but i cannot fathom blood draws for some reason make me like a bit queasy But it wouldn't hurt it'd be like a little suction cup on your arm. It'd be so gentle. They don't hurt me I just get nauseous like watching blood leave my body and having to sit there for like an hour if that's what it took on Slower I couldn't do it So like it's like get me in get me out But my god if you have to go into an orifice or like, you know Sometimes though with like earwax to like clean out ears and stuff like that
Starting point is 01:08:09 Like the thought of anyone going into an orifice quick in and out is kind of fucking scary. Yeah, that's you pretty precise I'm assuming it would be it's not just like oh I missed again. All right stitch him up Ears are so hard to get into, you know? Sorry. Popped the prostate. My touched it too quick. All right. I have to say I went into that leaning towards slow, but you both kind of convinced me, but either way you agreed.
Starting point is 01:08:34 So I guess you both get a point. Thank you. I don't like some of the fast, but I was still taking over the other slow. I think no, the fast is terrifying, but all of it is kind of terrifying to me. So I get that I wouldn't I don't what there are some things where the doctor is just like all right we're
Starting point is 01:08:49 gonna do this and the whole time I'm just like. Some things are kind of fast I remember the first time I had like a freckle or mole or whatever and the doctor was like we need to we need to test this and I was like okay sure and then like two seconds later someone walks in with like a fucking zappy and then the the scrape thing They're like, all right, we're just gonna cut you open. I was like, you don't have to schedule me for this Knock me out for this. You're just gonna cut me right now. They're like, oh, yeah And just go in removes Band-aid done and it was like it's that easy just to chunk people. They don't care. They don't care. That's the end
Starting point is 01:09:25 I'm gonna add an an input to the wheel and then we're gonna move on to the bonus portion. Oh, I was gonna add something about faster and slower, but I hadn't actually settled on it. Fastest response. I'll say what you got points for and then we'll do the totals once there's actually points. Wade, you got points for W.E.B.N. Ligma 69
Starting point is 01:09:46 Economist Wade, slow shits, slow batteries, fast taxes, slow workouts, slow hair and slow doctor. Wade's a slow man. Fast doctor. Let me correct that. Mark you earn points for industry with a belt, fast piss, slow spicy, fast tacks, fast nails, slow hair, and fast doctor. And we are going to do two bonus rolls. Spin number one. Okay, why does it always, wait, okay, all right, hold on. It always Lands here. Maybe this wheel is not very
Starting point is 01:10:31 Unbiased maybe this website is crappy if you if you click it multiple times in the middle Will it like super spin it like da da da da? I clicked it a bunch. Oh come on! Oh come on! Alright that's a point for the listeners and then a point for the viewers Damn it! This stupid wheel
Starting point is 01:10:54 I have bad news about that boys Before the bonus spins Mark you had 8 points and Wade you had 8 points and Wade you had eight points. Yeah, Mark and Wade tied for first listeners tied for tied for third. Technically listeners viewers tied for third with one point each.
Starting point is 01:11:19 That means I have to roll the stupid other fucking wheel. It's at 10%. Wade is at 45%. Mark is at 45% one man Show is at 10% I've only ever thought about punishing mark for this so I have no idea what we would do for you Bob I'm excited to find out I Sure, it'll be fine. No, there's no 10% is nothing That's all me baby, okay is nothing and nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo double the percentage that a one-man show comes up with something. I don't know, I know we talked in a recent episode about we need to clarify or change that rule or something.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I love that it's just fucking bullshit on the spot that we're like, whatever is doubly fair, doubly unfair. Who knows? Whatever happens, happens. We've had a lot of ties recently, I will say. We've had a lot of ties. Yeah, well now that we have bonus points at the end it's really hard while the episodes going on to be like I'm gonna make sure they don't tie at the end so that I don't have to spin the fucking wheel I don't want to spin not that I would ever have done that but congratulations mark winner speech thank you this was a great one for me fast winner fast speech fast victory fast done a very fast fast indeed wade
Starting point is 01:12:48 sad slow pitiful loser speech hey i gave it my all and my all just wasn't quite good enough today My all just wasn't quite good enough today. The fates had it in store for me to come up last, and so I did. Hey, you didn't come last, Varadis. You beat the viewers and the listeners. Hahahaha! And that one was just for the viewers
Starting point is 01:13:29 All right. Congratulations mark. Thank you for your speeches both of you Slow Wade didn't have it in him today the the hair one lesson not learned Parable destroyed by reality the hair beat the tortoise and the tortoise is a stinky stinky loser Make sure you follow mark and Wade on their socials and stuff. Mark Plyer, LordManiac777, or Maniac777, follow me. Make sure you follow the show, because then you'll get notifications when the episode's posted and it'll pop up on your devices and you can watch, listen. Mark will be hosting the next one, because he is a winner. And that's all I have to say about that.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Thanks so much for watching. See you in the next episode. he is a winner and that's all I have to say about that thanks so much for watching see you in the next episode bye podcast out

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