Distractible - Front Page News

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

Breaking News: Wade challenges Bob and Mark to go out in the field to find the most juicy, mind-blowing, and controversial news stories that are sure to make headlines... probably. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Only got small amounts of time but want big amounts of flavor? Knorr has got you. Our new Knorr rice cups deliver all the taste without the prep or wait time. We're talking yummy, creamy, hearty goodness. Choose from loads of delicious, more-ish flavors ready in only two and a half minutes. It's not cup food, it's good food in a cup. Visit Knorr.com to learn more. This episode is brought to you by Secret. Good food in a cup. Visit Knorr.com to learn more. minerals and crafted with skin conditioning oils. So whether you're going for a run or just running late,

do what life throws your way and smell like you didn't. Find Secret at your nearest Walmart or Shoppers Drug Mart today. Whoa, what are you listening to this for? Wait, who's talking? You know you're driving a 2024 Ford Escape with available Alexa built in, so you can change the music. Oh yeah, Alexa, change station to 99.2. See? Purchase a 2024 Escape ST-Line all-wheel drive with Tech Pack at 3.49% APR for 72 months with down payment. That's just $267 bi-weekly. Cash value of $40,294.

Plus, eligible Ford owners get a $1,000 bonus. For details, visit your local Ford store or Ford.ca. Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractible. This week, it's another unscripted extravaganza. Wanton Wade, Shadow Wedgens, whisks up a wonderfully wistful one. As Barmy Bob brazenly blitzes Blizzard Buddy's Unity, the Ultra Unscrupulous. for Brazenly Blitz's Blizzard Buddies, Unity, the Ultra Unscrupulous.

Mainframe Master Mark prepares to purge, get zany, for Zeus's Daisy Chain Darts, and out Origin as awful. From massive nits and insider trading to hardcore holograms. Yes. It's time for Front Page News. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hey everybody, welcome back to Distractible.

I'm today's host, Wade, and I'm joined by my co-hosts, Mark and Bob. Hello, boys. Hi! I waved for the watchers. I shouted oddly for the listeners. I thought you were going to say for the watchers. Hi! And I shouted for the watchers. Mm-mm, no. Someone's got to pull for the listeners. I thought you were going to say for the watchers. Hi! And I shouted for the watchers.

Mm-mm, no. Someone's got to pull for the listeners, since you guys don't care. Nope. Those dirty non-watchers. Their stupid ears. Yeah. We know watchers cut off their ears to maintain the purity of the viewing experience. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. If you guys have never been here before, one of us hosts, the other two compete. Whoever wins gets to host the next episode. That's pretty much the gist. Everything else that happens in between is at the host's discretion. But firstly, how are you guys doing? I'm good.

I'm good. Good. I'm good, too. I'm really good, also. Okay, you guys are good. That's good. Any elaboration on your good or is that all i get no it's not hot in my office anymore so that's good it used to be hot but now

it's cooler i could talk about hard drives some more how many of those you got sitting next to you just the one now just the one oh okay yeah this is actually the last sealed hard drive ad thank you so much for asking anyway i just recently just recently reallocated my ones that were in this Sabrent 10-bay into the OWC Thunder Bay 8, which I actually came back to. That was one of the first things that I bought because I realized that the potential of Thunder Bay 8. Yeah, that was the one where you struggled to understand the Thunderbolt ports, right? Yeah, yeah.

Where you had the issues with the... We talked about that. I can hear the typing on the subreddit of that one guy. No, no, no, no. I won't allow it. I have to come clean. I am that one guy. I thought you didn't have a Reddit account, Wade.

I don't. I'm lying. If I thought you actually cared enough to follow up on the subreddit afterwards, I would believe you, but I don't all right fair enough i tried i think i'm finally ready to purge adobe from my existence oh i use that well you don't use that my company uses that on the daily let's not lie about things here on this podcast only you can see the script you can share it when the with guests when the teleprompter is on bob what did you do i didn't do anything we have a script there's a teleprompter there is a script wait what's this

what's it say what are we supposed to uh hang on do we know the ending who wins uh it's all scripted now look if i do that then what happens i'm gonna make it bigger i don't know i've never had the script when it was the teleprompter how do i turn the teleprompter on I don't know I don't know guys I typed a script and it's up there but I don't know how to turn the teleprompter on I gotta be honest we don't see it so you know what I guess two points to you Bob for your great script way to go buddy thanks guys everyone at home both listeners and viewers are extremely confused i we're we're literally looking at features of the environment that we're recording this in right now that you might think we would have known about beforehand we didn't you heard it

here first we're gonna figure that out you know it's funny you mentioned that mark i'm gonna give you two points fuck yeah finally it's my comeuppance for saying that you heard it here first because since you boys are good and that's about it i guess we'll get right into the episode where you all watchers and listeners will hear it here first because this episode's all about a breaking news i'm assuming there's a jingle going right now i was gonna i was to let the song play for a second. Will, I'm sure Wade didn't give you anything. Please, please play a song.

During the breaking news, not just sadly after. Yeah, yeah, definitely not sadly after the long break. Breaking news! Yeah, I nailed it. I'm so proud of you. This is an episode that I'm lazily going to sit here and allow you two to find breaking news and present it to me. And whichever news I find more compelling will make the front page and you'll get the points. I mean, are you sure?

No, but if it gets you to compete, then yes. Oh, okay. We don't have a front page. Front page of what? We don't even have a front page. Do we? We don't have pages. What are you seeing? What are you seeing? I see all kinds of things. The possibilities. I see the numbers around

me. I see dancing, singing. It's all there. That was me buying you all time for the first story. Oh, I don't need time. Oh, Mark's ready. Oh, yeah. I'm so ready. Mark, tell us what you have for Breaking News! Coming to you live from

Markiplier's Tech Corner, the premier establishment of tech reviews on the internet. MKBHD, I'm coming for you. I'm gonna dethrone you. I wasn't invited to the Apple event, but that doesn't matter because I'm not even talking about that. There is a groundbreaking new development in

the world of technology that is going to fundamentally change the way that we connect our computers to the rest of our lives. And you guys are not ready for it. The world is not ready for it. Is it Stadia? No. Okay, good. Go ahead. I gotta build it back up again.

I had a lot of momentum. I'm sure that Will was like escalating some music right there. Okay. The world is not ready for it. You're not ready for it. My mom. I gotta build it back up again. I had a lot of momentum. I'm sure that Will was like escalating some music right there. Okay. The world is not ready for it. You're not ready for it. My mom's not ready for it, but my mom doesn't care that she's not ready for it because she's gonna benefit from it anyway. Get ready for Thunderbolt 5!

It's on 5? Yeah, 5. I didn't know Thunderbolt had numbers, if I'm honest. I thought it just was Thunderbolt. Whoa. No, guys. I mean, whoa. That is news.

It is. It is news. What differentiates it from four? A lot. I mean, I'll tell you. It's so much. It's big. It's huge.

It's big. You know, just a few months ago, I was a Thunderbolt hater. Now I'm a Thunderbolt lover. And Thunderbolt 5 is going to fundamentally change how computers connect. That sounds amazing, Mark. Please tell us more. I will. I just feel like there should be more applause.

Woo! Yeah, Mark! Yeah, woo! Cool, cool, cool. Good, good, good. Okay. Yeah, baby! This actually is going to be very exciting for you guys.

And I've never, there's very few times when i look at like tech specs of something new coming out or like i look forward to the next generation of something uh more than i do this for give you a baseline thunderbolt 4 is a very very good piece of technology and it's intel's uh desire to set a standard for what usbc connection actually is and to standardize it because there's so many different we've talked about that before yada yada we've been into that thunderbolt 4 has a few base rules 40 gigabits per second transfer 32 of which is allocated for uh storage transfer or it's a theoretical like 32 maximum gigabits maximum uh data transfer speed or something similar to that i forget what it

actually is but it's not the full for data um and it can support two 4K displays and you can daisy chain off a Thunderbolt. There's a lot of things in Thunderbolt that people don't realize that you can do. And it has a minimum power delivery requirement, both from the computer and to the computer. It's 100 watts to the computer, 15 watts out of the computer. And so all of these allow it to support certain peripherals, right? Thunderbolt 5 isn't just a small leap. So it's 40 gigabits per second, which actually from Thunderbolt 3 is the same data transfer rate. It just had more accessory features like power delivery and display support. Thunderbolt 5 goes from 40 to 120 gigabits per second. That is substantial. It is substantial. And what that does is it puts

it at a threshold where suddenly the connections that you can have with it are about the same as the PCI Express connections inside. Because Thunderbolt is actually a PCI 3. It was. Thunderbolt 4 was a PCI 3 connection, which has a certain gigabit per lane. It's four lanes of PCI 3. This is four lanes of PCI 4. And it goes 80 gigabits bidirectional. So it goes 80 down, 80 up.

It goes 80 gigabits bidirectional. So it goes 80 down, 80 up. So it's actually a total bandwidth of 160 gigabits, but it can burst up to 120 gigabits down in one direction. I think that's mostly for display support, but it effectively doubles the amount of data that can go into it. My drives right now, they can run at like maximum about two and a half gigabytes per second data transfer speed, which is very good. It's just

not the top end of what SSDs are. So it's not the same as having an internal device, but it allows you to not only double that and match what SSDs are, it gets you to a level of performance that is going to future proof like the next generation of video sizes. It also allows for two 6K displays, daisy chaining, power delivering raised up to 140 watts with availability up to 240 watts of power that is the entire power supply of a laptop any laptop apple's dream of having a one cable laptop that they tried to do when they got rid of all the other ports and just were like the back book only has usbc that can actually happen now and it can happen with all of the features your laptop can be powered it can have a data connection to all of your daisy change ports out both of your displays

can be on one cable and you can have networking through thunderbolt faster than most 10 gigabit connections which is like the highest consumer level stuff that most people can access all from one single cable that's pretty cool that is pretty amazing so i was not lying when i was saying this is going to fundamentally change how people connect now the problem that people had with adopting thunderbolt before is that it was very expensive and it wasn't an all-encompassing solution but now it is still expensive to implement so laptops that have it are more expensive but they finally can justify the increase in price because of the features that it can outline and why is this important is because we're going to compare it to probably the update from

apple today of like wow they have usbc that's not thunderbolt on the iphone even though they do it's not even good usbc on the iphones i have thoughts about that oh yeah we'll get into that uh but it's it's like now any laptop could have one key you have one cable in your bag one cable all of your peripherals are we talking apple exclusively or for pcs and such too no this is intel intel develops thunderbolt technology so intel licenses is out you don't need an intel processor to have thunderbolt um but most intel stuff does support it automatically the thunderbolt 5 is coming out next year um but this allows me to have even faster like uh rate arrays there there might be a world where your home ethernet um actually has like in the server rack itself is not interconnected with ethernet it's interconnected with thunderbolt because it would make more sense to have

interconnects between your home server stuff and then the networking throughout the house because thunderbolt has a maximum limit of like the range it can go and the cable length. I think it's like two meter passively and then actively up to 10 meters. But if you have a home computer, suddenly like the idea of connecting computers for Kubernetes clusters at home or stuff like that is so much more relevant because you can interconnect between computers at a high bandwidth that is exactly the same as getting a pci express connection to another computer it's fascinating and thunderbolt has lower latency than ethernet which is funny because ethernet's latency is like imperceptible anyway but if if it's if it's um uh optical connections like if it's uh spf connections

and stuff like that oh okay so as long as as long as it has a copper-like backbone, which even Thunderbolt has, there is a theoretical limit to what electrons can move through a copper medium until we get room temperature superconductors. So optical is the way to go, you know? Okay. Well, you know, to be fair, I normally don't stay tuned in for all the technology stuff. I normally zone out and start thinking about Shakira. But in this case, I was with you the whole way. That's fascinating. I think you're right. That

potentially could revolutionize things or at least lead to a big, it could very well. That sounds like one of the big, one of the bigger breakthroughs we've heard as far as tripling and all that. So this connects to, this connects to something that I've always thought was silly. And this has been around for a while. So part what you mentioned mark the single cable laptop dream also included in that era of like laptop development was the idea of an external graphics card as part of like you could use a laptop but it could also be your gaming pc you just plug in an external graphics card this sort of makes me feel like that makes more sense in this world too because the external graphics cards never had the same they they were graphics cards but they never had the same bandwidth as a pci

e-slot it was always like i don't know if that throttled it or if that chain shot worked or what but this would basically mean you could plug a pci card into a laptop over a thunderbolt cable and get like theoretically the maximum performance out of it? Absolutely. Yeah. There were enclosures. I think Razer made an enclosure that allowed you to put like a full size graphics card in it. I had it. It was limited because the amount of bandwidth that you could pump to it back and forth from the CPU was limited. Whereas like usually graphic cards needs a full 16 lane connection to a PCI Express to be able to do graphic intensive stuff like sending data for frames back and forth. It needs that full bandwidth. So because Thunderbolt is limited to four, it wasn't able to fully do it. For certain applications like cryptocurrency

or whatever, sure, it could work. And certain rendering processes, because it's sending a little bit of data in and it needs to crunch it lot you know there's there's things like that where it was effective but this this is effectively putting as many pci express slots as you have thunderbolt connectors to your computer it is exciting it applies to both apple pc linux i'm sure if i don't know linux very much those those those drooling neanderthals who do linux in day in and day out actually i have no idea i think he's the character in snoopy that carries the blanket that's correct yeah yeah everyone who does linux is exactly that character also why is it called thunderbolt instead of lightning bolt because isn't thunder just a sound wouldn't a bolt thunder just be sound look talk to talk to Intel. I don't know.

All right. Fair enough. My only frame of reference, Wade, is that in the Disney movie Hercules, in the song that the muses sing about Hercules, there's a line where they say, Zeus, he hurled those thunderbolts and zap, locked those suckers. So I'm assuming because the muses from ancient Greece called them Thunderbolts, that must be where that comes from. Okay, so Intel's basing it off of the movie Hercules. The Disney movie Hercules that came out in like 1998.

As they should. Bless my soul, Herc was on a roll, so I get why they might follow that. Undefeated. So let's be clear. When it comes to shipping internationally, can I provide trade documents electronically? Mm-hmm. The answer is FedEx.

Okay. But what about estimating duties and taxes on my shipments? How do I find all the... Also FedEx. Impressive. Is there a regulatory specialist I can ask about? FedEx. Oh.

But let's say that... FedEx. What a... FedEx. Thanks. No more questions say that... FedEx. What? FedEx. Thanks. No more questions. Always your answer for international shipping. FedEx.

Where now meets next. A fresh voice can speak to you and open your ears and your mind to new views and new perspectives. The call of the wild, a crescendo of culture. Listen as a chorus of fresh voices moves you, taking you to greater heights. Add your voice to the mix and let fresh answer back with perfect harmony in pure Michigan. Keep it fresh at michigan.org.

This episode is brought to you by Tresemme. Want silky smooth hair that's still full of natural movement? The Tresemme Keratin Smooth Weightless Collection is your simple solution. This new collection features a wide range of products from nourishing shampoo and conditioner to lightweight heat protectants and a silky smooth serum for a sleek finish. Wave goodbye to frizz and say hello to three days of smooth hair with the Tresemme Keratin Smooth Weightless Collection.

Visit Tresemme.com to learn more. All right, speaking of Bob, Mark, unless you have any more things to add? No, that's my Thunderbolt. I figure it's one at a time, so. Thank you for the Thunderbolt update. That's really good stuff. Bob, over to you.

Breaking news! In the world of video game development, the ground quaked. What once was unified behind Unity is now shattered into splinters of what could have been. Many game developers took to the internet and complained loudly about a new pricing scheme that was announced by Unity, one of the several main game engines on which many, many, many, many games are built. Basically, Unity is like the tool that you use to make a video game. In the same way that you might use Adobe Photoshop to edit a photo, you use Unity and or Unreal Engine, or there are several other options. And they announced a fee structure change they said would be essential for funding

the development of Unity tech, but left many game developers wondering if Unity was really viable anymore. And basically the heart of this issue is that there's a free tier of Unity that you can use for free. And then there's a pro tier where you can like subscribe to unity um but unity was going to add fees basically if a game hits the threshold of 200 000 downloads and makes 200 000 in revenue then that developer is going to be charged 20 cents per installation, which sounds like a nominal fee. Like that doesn't sound like a lot. But it was pointed out by the studio AgroCrab that they have a game in development. They have several successful games and they have a game that's set in development that's planned to come out on Game Pass for free and would be free to download and install

for the 25 million Game Pass subscribers out there in the world. Even if only a fraction of that total user base installed the game, even if like, you know, a 10th of them installed the game, 2.5 million downloads definitely meets that threshold. It would just cause them a lot of problems. That would be an outrageous amount of fees to pay to use this platform. And they were not the only only one many developers came out and basically were like you got to change this back or we're just gonna pause our projects and switch to unreal engine or some other platform because it's gonna kill us because we can't afford this i we cannot overstate how ridiculous this thing actually is there were so many times when there was information being clarified about this, where they're like, they can't mean that every download, right?

And they posted an FAQ. They did this multiple times, actually, that was like trying to clarify. It was like, don't worry, don't worry. Yes, it's every download. We have proprietary data collection that's going to know exactly how many downloads you do. And then they're like, but what if it's, you know, what if someone pirates it and they download it and they go, oh, don't worry about that. Yes, that will count towards your download total. Yeah, you'll be charged for that. And then it's like, what if we have free demos? What if the game is free?

Oh, we completely understand that situation. Yes, that'll count towards your download and we will bill you accordingly don't worry like that was literally the entire conversation another one that i thought was funny is they specifically um this is from axios they specifically told this news outlet people were concerned like what if there's a malicious user who downloads and installs elites downloads installs deletes that's 20 cents a pop for basically free and uh initially unity was like yeah no that counts each one of those would count and then it looks like within like a day or two unity came back to the same news outlet and was like well look listen we talked it

over we'll just charge for the first one i guess they're like backpedaling so hard and trying to figure out i mean this is unity is like as far as i know top two possibly the top possibly the top i do believe they were number one i like um unity market share um well on on that point i don't know if you guys saw ross rubber ninja tweeted at them he's like it looks like your CEO sold 2,000 shares right before this announcement. And then he corrected himself. He's like, oh, make that 50,000 shares of stock in this company in the last year. In the last year, CEO Riccatello, what's his name?

John Riccatello, Riccatello, Riccatello. Yeah, he sold 2,000 shares on September 6th, a week prior to this announcement, and over 50,000 shares so far thisth, a week prior to this announcement, and over 50,000 shares so far this year. Weird. That is weird. And that's reported by Kotaku is what I'm reading here.

But I've seen that in multiple sources as well. Well, it's okay. You know, it really is okay because you know where John Ricciatello worked at before this? Somewhere really, really cool and good? Oh, yeah. EA. Oh, yeah. No, that's a reputable um place he really did good things there there is a theory from i'm just going to call him vinny that says

unity actually did this he thinks that they're working with aliens they did this to keep us from talking about little mummified alien fellas that apparently the mexican government displayed so it could be that Unity has an agreement. Did you not see that, Mark? I did not see this. I actually don't know the news story either that he's referencing. You should look it up. It could be that this is all

big smoke and mirrors to help the aliens. Oh my god. I mean, I believe it. I mean, what are the odds that it's financially motivated? That seems slim. I'm not gonna say that i know enough about game development or any of this to be like an expert to be like well look these numbers this isn't tenable this they'll never make i don't know that i'm reading sources what i will say is a game that i respect the hell out of that is an excellent game from a, a good publisher,

a good developer, the game cult of the lamb. Yeah. A great game, literally tweeted out by cult of the lamb now, cause we're deleting it on January 1st, which is when these fee changes would be implemented. So like,

that's kind of a meme, but also this is, this is enough of a concern to these companies who are using unity a lot of companies have been putting very public messages about it yeah cult of the lamp has been an absolute darling super popular incredibly successful it's a great game and even they are like we'll turn it off we're just not gonna you we're just not gonna sell this game anymore if it means we have to pay these ridiculous fees on unity yeah i take that as a sign that this is it's kind of everyone's clowning on unity moment but also it's kind of a serious like all these companies are suddenly like oh my god do we have to switch engines to

god i don't know like it's a serious issue for these especially smaller companies who you know don't make that much money what does does switching engines mean? Switching engines is so much harder than you could possibly imagine. I imagine it is, but like, how do you even compare it to anything for those of us don't know? It would effectively be like starting from scratch, right? It would be like if you started a project where you had a bunch of really detailed like sketches of things and the really well-developed ideas, but starting literally at ground zero from how do we build these assets? How do we, how do we implement the, like the physics in this engine so that it does what we want for our game? It's like starting over. So it's like building a

skyscraper out of glass and then changing your mindset. Well, we should do it out of brick instead here. Yeah. Here's a, here's a thing that could probably get, do you, you know, if you go from like, let's say let's take Brothers, for an example, from generation to generation, those aren't made on Unity or Unreal Engine or anything, but they're made with different base programming stuff. So the people complain and they pick a specific Smash generation because the controls work in a very specific way and they have little nuances to them that change it. If you go from one engine to another, just affecting how a character jumps

or touches the environment or like the boundary boxes is slightly different. I mean, effectively it's the same, but trying to program it so that your experience is exactly the same is actually different. There was another in the vein of what you were saying with Cult of the Lamb. Did you see the public statement from Slay the Spire and Megacrit? No. Another excellent game. Very well received. Super fun game. Yeah. So they say, you know, the retroactive pricing structure of runtime fees is not only harmful in a myriad of ways to developers, especially indies. It's also a violation of trust. We believe Unity is fully aware of this, seeing as they've gone so far as to remove their terms of service from GitHub. Despite the immense amount of time and effort our team has already poured into the development of our new title, we will be migrating to a new engine unless the changes are completely reverted

and terms of service protections are put in place. We have never made a public statement before. This is how badly you fucked up. Like, literally, just as a last point and very bold. Like, they have never done one of those game development company public statements like, we're sorry our launch was so terrible that we'll do whatever we can to fix it. We'll put our employees through more overtime. Don't worry, guys.

Like, that's the statement that they put out. Not that they do that, but yeah, that's... But that happens. It's that fundamental. It is a big change going to New Engine, but that's how bad it is. And more on the corruption side of things as i found in the article that details rickettiello is not the only uh unity exec to sell a significant number of shares leading up to this one of the big sellers was tomer barzeev unity's president of

growth who sold 37 500 shares on september 1st for 1.4 million dollars also a board of directors member i believe shlomo dorvrat sold 68 000 shares for 2.5 million dollars what do they know that what do they know yeah what do they know no like what what is what well they knew that this was going to be incredibly unpopular what do you mean what do they right i get that but like did this happen because of the selling or did they sell because this was going to be incredibly unpopular. What do you mean? What do they know? Right, I get that. But like, did this happen because of the selling? Or did they sell because they were going to do this? No, they sold because they were afraid the stock price was going to tank. And they were like, oh shit, let me get my money out before we make this incredibly stupid business move.

Yeah, but Riccatello has been selling for a year. So they've been planning this for a year? Oh yeah, they don't. These decisions aren't instant. Well, I know that that i'm not defending any of these people at all he might have just been selling it because he needed cash for whatever reason maybe he bought another yacht who knows yeah like it you know there are other reasons you might sell stock in mainly if you need liquid cash for something but like all of these several board members selling such a substantial amount directly in the couple weeks before the announcement too close too coincidental to be

it's imagine i said the right thing and we we should say this because people need to remember this uh you know we're all saying this and everyone's like yeah that's definitely what's happening probably this is illegal people seem to forget this because it's so commonplace. This is a punishable offense because it's called insider trading and it is illegal. It is jail crime. This is what Martha Stewart went to jail for. Does that, is it change if it's your own company that you know you're selling? It's worse. That's the main thing about it yeah if it's your company so you know all the intricate details and you use that information in order to manipulate the stock well not manipulate

but take advantage of stock prices in a way that makes you money and makes other stockholders not money or less money or whatever yeah no that's exactly like the whole point of the insider trading laws and regulations so they are potentially or allegedly insider trading well but so this is the kind of shit that happens all the time right i i'm not an expert on white collar crime by any means but this is the kind of thing that rich people do to make sure they stay rich they happen to know that something like this is going to happen so they move all their unity stock or they sell all their whatever or they they invest heavily in whatever, because they know they're about to whatever release a product that's not public. I don't know if it's like difficult to nail someone on charges

for insider trading, or if there's just such an overwhelming number of cases that they don't get prosecuted, but this kind of shit happens constantly. At least in America, it's incredibly against the rules, completely against the rules. That doesn't mean they're going to get any trouble whatsoever especially ricky tello what's his name yeah ricky tell on uh because he was set he potentially was selling stock over the course of the entire year all spread out like that exactly so that he could say when this announcement happened he'll go look i've been selling the stock for like 10 months like i this is not in response to anything i didn't know back then that this was going to happen and that's the thing is like because because yeah you people do sell stock over a period of time that is commonplace and that is a thing that goes on um it is just weirdly timed

that a larger amount was right before yeah the two executives who sold uh 1.4 and 2.5 million dollars respectively worth of stock all in the two weeks leading up to the decision that's a little much that's a little much that's a little aggressive uh but i sincerely i i'm very skeptical that any of them will get in any sort of trouble but i also feel like the backlash to this has been so fierce that like unity has already been backpedaling on stuff and clarifying and sort of changing what they've been saying i would be surprised if this goes through the way that they announce it what happens if a game like cult of the lamb takes themselves off the store but like let's say you own it and you re-download it does that still

count yes if they don't even selling anymore because it already exists yes yeah because they have an ongoing agreement with the the engine and it also opens up this door into like privacy concerns, because if every time you install, that's why, you know, Windows Defender pops up every time you install a new game. Like, allow this to access public networks because it's calling back to their servers like, I'm installed. It is concerning on multiple levels, more for the developers, a lot for the consumers. No one wins with this decision. And it is just one of those things where I'm not saying Unreal is perfect because they, but they have a different business model that is like free up until you make a certain revenue, because there's so many people that are making games out there that aren't making them for profit or just like testing out or like they do a, like a game jam that goes out for free.

And it's like doing it on per install is just probably a conversation that came from ea where this ceo was like i hate piracy we need to make sure that everyone pays for everything what if we do it this way and then it's like without ever thinking that the actual customers is the developers and not the end user it's just it's such short-sighted thinking so is unreal the only potential winner out of this because everyone's going to switch to them unless there's plenty of game development software out there but i think unreal right now has the most friendly uh accessible kind of thing you can download the software for free just like unity you can download for free i have unreal like installed on a computer because i was toying around with like

game engine it's just a hobby stuff yeah you could use the entire suite of stuff for free it's very cool exactly and you only have to pay a licensing fee when you make a certain amount of income and it's it's pretty high i think it's like in the hundreds of thousands that you have to start paying which i will say that is part of this we didn't cover this super specifically unity's new plan you would have to pay this 20 cents per installation fee once your game hits 200 000 downloads and you make 200 000 in revenue so that is a high bar for very small indie titles but for a game like cult of the lamb i wonder if that's a public information how many installs does cult of the lamb have definitely more than 200,000.

Sure. How many, come on internet. It doesn't say a lot. Definitely more. I would guess in the, in the range of like millions, because it's incredibly popular. I didn't hear that.

It had to be a dollar threshold for unity. I thought it was just a download threshold. Well, so that was part of the clarification. I think, which the third rounds of, yeah, no,

what initially the announcement announcement at least from what the reactions i saw the announcement was 20 cents per install that's it and everyone was kind of like what and then so they were like well wait but wait a minute um but so there are some thresholds but i don't know when that was announced specifically this is not like a timeline i have in front of me and also if you have if you pay the two thousand dollars a year for the unity pro subscription the thresholds are higher and the fees you get charged are lower for the per install fee schedule but that was not enough to make anyone happy cult of the lamb at least to reach 60 000 concurrent players on twitch i believe yikes so 60 000 at once streaming it which probably means a lot more downloads in place yeah 20 cents they're just trying to like apple store you know

the fee everyone is so jealous of what apple has in their app store uh that everyone's just like we gotta get our cut see that's what the outrage usually is funneled from it's not usually like there's some justifiable rage against like you you know, Apple, you know, for the constant fee and whatnot. And like the steam store having a constant fee. But I I'd say like a lot of those are at least offset by the fact that it does provide like a good ecosystem for that is I'm not saying it's perfect, but the main outrage comes from other companies that are just jealous. They're like, why did they get to make so much money? That's why. So EA made their, what was it? Origin. They made origin. Cause they're like why did they get to make so much money that's why so ea made their what was it origin they made origin because they're like steam is making so much money we should be making

that money that's our money without realizing that the platform of steam was so much more beneficial than the r&d that they put into their own um software that eventually crashed and burned and then they were just like you know same with a lot of these other companies that were making their own launchers and stuff the only successful one far, and I say so far because who knows long term, is Unreal. They have Unreal, the Epic Games launcher. And so far as I can tell, that is still going on, probably just because Fortnite still makes an ungodly amount of money. It seems like that's very subsidized because the Epic Games store just has like free games

all the time where you just get it for free for no stipulation. And like it it seems like that can't possibly be making epic a lot of money maybe it is who knows but okay so i found some numbers just for an example to put what we're talking about in some context during the first seven days after release cult of the lamb the revenue reached almost 10 million dollars and sold 500 000 copies um and almost a million copies were sold in the first month after release a game like cult of lamb which is a very large game but i would still say is pretty small compared to like triple a studios it's not at all like a bethesda or an ea game or

anything you did those numbers i mean a million downloads if you exempt the first 200 000 800 000 20 cents per download that's only 160 000 they know right uh i guess theoretically 160 000 for people downloading your game that seems that's probably fair unity did a lot of work to make the game happen i assume yeah there are there are some licensing uh fees it's not that the objective is not like licensees fees in general or bad because the software development company have to make money somehow or else there won't be any software. That's kind of a reality we're all going to understand. It's the kind of sudden switch. It's the unfairness to what things were already there.

And it's the lack of clarification for what it is. And it's also the kind of malicious practice of tracking downloads, which can be exploited by end users that want to be malicious oh i was being sarcastic it's completely absurd to charge that much oh okay i thought you were so good at acting i was like i guess yeah thank you no no that's why bob was like yeah you needed a lot of work we run a sarcastic spiel there wade owns a lot of unity stock he really wants this to well no i sold it all two weeks ago, coincidentally. Yeah, no, unrelated. I got rid of that stuff. My 500,000 shares of Unity I sold a month ago for no reason.

No reason whatsoever, yes. I just felt like it was time, you know? That's my breaking news. How many points do I get for that? Oh, man. So, yeah, I'm awarding points to whoever's breaking news makes the front page. And I got to say, I feel like the news Bob shared is a lot more prevalent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to give it to Mark because Mark surprised me by keeping me interested.

Wait, what? Mark, you get the point. I usually don't. I usually don't stick with you on the tech stuff as much, but you had me today. Oh, I win the. I thought it was just like a per story thing. Oh, I feel like you just pulled it was just like a per story thing. I don't know. Oh. I feel like you just pulled a me on me.

I feel like you just said, yours was clearly... You know, let's not question it. Let's not question it. Bob's was clearly better, so I'm going to let Mark win. Let's not question it. Let's not question it. Yours I had heard about

because I don't think you can avoid it. Yours is front page material. Because it's front page news. I agree. But his was shockingly like, wow, okay. Shocking third page news at best. I like how he just said like, yeah, I'm going to award points of which everyone makes the

front page. I'm going to give it to Mark. I love it. I'm not questioning it. That's a very me move and I respect it. This is subjective and it's just where my heart tells me the point belongs. All right. Well, I got your heart right here because my next story is gonna hit you right in the heart hole all right uh bob do you i was gonna have you guys

rotate no no let's not do that you're gonna have us rotate so i'll go first yeah yeah he's gonna rotate us so all right well if you both agree who am i to who am i to make decisions you don't know what you're doing let mark do do it. Okay. Breaking news! Shakira rocks the world at the VMAs! Two points to Mark. All right, that's it. Go on, please. Shakira accepted a Lifetime Achievement Award and also gave a groundbreaking, earth-shattering,

knives-out performance on the stage for all the world to remember why Shakira's still on top. Hey, I'm not going to finish my thought. I agree. Those hips didn't lie all night long as Shakira showed everyone just what hips are for. Uh-huh. Go on.

That's, I mean... Shakira just like then ascended above the stage as winged wings unfurled from behind her back and she floated high above everyone and soared over the crowd shaking her hips all the while

okay well you got points for that round next round wait I have Shakira stuff oh wait go on Shakira lives in my house now and that's it Shakira lives in my house now and that's it shakira shakira lives in my bedroom and she cleans the top floor of our house i feel like i'm being played and also i've been to your house and i didn't get to meet shakira so i should take away points oh she didn't live here when you were here before we just got her in the mail the other day by shakira i mean we have a shark robot vacuum that is called Sharkira.

In honor of you, Wade, Sharkira lives with us and vacuums our floors. It's Sharkira. Yeah, you really got to listen on the enunciation there, Wade. You want to meet Sharkira? You come over right now. I'll show you Sharkira. I'll go get her. I'll show you.

I'm too hot and bothered and distracted right now to have listened to the pronunciation. Well played, Bob. I'll give you a point. Ah, that was worth naming that real vacuum. Too hot and bothered and distracted right now to have listened to the pronunciation. Well played, Bob. I'll give you a point. Ah, that was worth naming that real vacuum that's really in our real house, Shakira, just for that. Okay, but yeah, Shakira News is always in my heart. You know, do you want to hear what my, can I do a new story where I say one and Mark doesn't,

so I get the points by default? Yeah, sure, whatever. Breaking news! Apple had a huge event called the Wander... Wonder... Whoa, the Wander... All the big news outlets are going to tell you is that they announced

the iPhone 15 and it has a USB-C plug on it. But what they're not going to tell you is that it's a shitty USB-C plug. The pro phones get a uh usbc controller that does not let you take advantage of the fast charging i think it was like 20 amp charging is the fastest still that iphones have when samsung has had like 40 and or 60 watt fast charging since last generation of phones and is totally available but also if you get the

base model iphone 15 non-pros it's got an even shittier usb controller so you get garbage usbc so it's a joke is it slower than the current iphone charging it's not slower it's the same as but it could be twice as fast or faster so if you if you buy so they all these all these like anchor and all these companies sell fast chargers right if you buy that you're not getting the full advantage of whatever that fast charger is doing so they're making everyone buy new chargers for the new phone that's not better so they can get a better one next year so we can buy them again coincidentally announced on september 12 2023 usb c to lightning adapters are now officially sold by apple so you don't have to buy new cables for anything you just have to buy a 30 adapter and you just plug your lightning cable into an adapter

and then plug the usb c of the adapter into your phone so you don't have you don't have to it's basically free how many adapters you need six seven they're only 30 bucks each come on to be fair most people have a usb plug at this point a lot of people don't i'm not gonna say everybody but most people do so the idea is that you don't even need an adapter at all because you already have a usbc especially if you have a macbook or an ipad because the ipad has been usbc for a while now but the non-pro ipads are are largely lightning except for the last generation or two aren't they were they still i thought i thought even the ipad pros have been usbc but the ipad air and mini and the regular ipad i think were lightning until maybe

this gen or last gen i think i've got i think i've got an air too and i think it's lightning ah the the new air with the m1 chip which the whole ipad lineup being differentiated in what way makes no sense because the ipad air has an m1 chip and the ipad pro also has an m chip it's like what's the but the pro has the magnetic bongle dongles so you could put the ipad pencil on it obviously the bongle dongles. Well, actually, the iPad Air also, the pencil. Oh, shut up. Whose news story is this? Look, we haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet. All right, you carry on.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So all the big, all the big outlets will focus on that. And they won't even mention the USB controllers being crappy and Apple cheaping out and not even giving you the good USB-C. the USB controllers being crappy and Apple cheaping out and not even giving you the good USB-C. But what's really interesting to me is that Apple released a new version of the Apple AirPods Pro with a USB-C charging case, which ostensibly, it's exactly the same product, but with a USB-C plug in it. But it's not. And do you want to know how many people are going to be upset

about the fact that the new airpod pro with the usbc case the tech that it has that no other airpods have is that it has a different chip and or another chip in it that allows it to do lossless audio with the vision pro when that launches ah which is a thing i know a lot of people care about lossless audio big deal that is you know but so people who have airpod pro twos with the non-usbc case are like oh i don't need new ones but they do because they're probably going to get a vision pro and then they won't have lossless audio if they don't get new ones so how many points is that worth wade well you're the only news story by your request so you get the point point. I got some Apple stuff. Next round. All right. No, like it is, it is fascinating this

one. And I can totally like pinpoint why so many of these things are done, right? So they always, they, they want to differentiate. They're so good at this. That's the problem is they're so good at this and they're so good at the marketing, even with people calling it out, they know that it's still working. And I am a fan of a lot of Apple products, but it's one of those things where they do the same tricks all the time that people start to see the tricks for what they are. And with the iPhone 15, what they're doing is like lightning was the same. It was limited to USB 2. It wasn't fast because it was made like 10 plus years ago. Yeah, I mean, Lightning launched with the iPhone 5, which came out in like 2011. Yeah.

What they do is like the iPhone 50 gets advertised. And in the marketing, if you watch the event, which I did, they make it seem like it's the greatest innovation to ever grace phones ever. And you feel that when you're watching it. You really do. to ever grace phones ever. And you feel that when you're watching it, you really do. And even though I know that I'm looking at exactly the, what they do is last year's pro model is the next year's regular iPhone,

basically minus a camera and some features and they differentiate. And the reason they didn't put lightning on the phone pro is so that next year they can say now with a lightning connector, USB-C and you can see the ad like video right it's kind of like you know now with thunderbolt 4 and so they do thunderbolt 4 next year so that the next so they can have one increment and it seems like the greatest thing ever admittedly as a company that's how you gotta do it when you you get to a point with phones and this is where i'll give them the benefit of the doubt how are you going to change

the phone fundamentally at this point besides the holograms huh hologram is that better though see people say something like that but i don't think that's a better user experience does it need to be better to be different so if i set my phone on my nightstand or my tablet on my nightstand i'm laying down i want to watch something instead of having to hold it i press a button and it hologram displays i can just see because you can have the little things where you set it on its side i'm gonna blow your mind i'm gonna blow your mind right now blow me okay i'm blowing you you can get for like i think it's like 400 bucks uh from samsung there's a projector that you can get that sits above your bed or on your side table and it will project on your wall your ceiling and it'll

auto calibrate and fix the thing you just point it up left right uh you can connect to it from probably a samsung display phone or something like that but you can you can project your phone onto the ceiling control it from the phone look up you can watch video anywhere on your wall if so long as your room's dark it's good enough and the audio comes out of it the speakers are not terrible they're not great but you can connect them up to any other speakers and that that's effectively a hologram basically it just you're right that that is pretty close but if i roll over and like i move around a lot i can move it with me pretty easily yeah you move it and it'll like you wait a second it'll auto calibrate to the new surface you don't need

to do one point to you for maybe making me look at that thank you it's it's not bad we have it it's actually very nice like sometimes when you're just laying down you just want to look up at the ceiling i need to listen to you guys when you talk technology more can i miss all these things why don't you make me listen minus one point to both of you uh no i was wrong it's six it's six hundred dollars so it is more expensive than i thought what you could do for six hundred dollars is you could just buy a couple samsung galaxy note 10 pluses which are pretty big and just suspend them around your bed in the places you most likely are going to be looking and just play the same video at the same time.

It's like the little spinny thing for babies, but it's phones for me. Yeah, absolutely. That that would be plus then you have extra phones. You can be on one playing a gotcha game which i know you like and then on the other one you could have the video and then on your iphone you can be um transferring data sub optimally i'm trying really hard to stay out of the gotcha games they get me they suck me and i'm trying very hard to avoid them i don't need that temptation in my life now our new sponsor every gotcha game that you love They're going to give you free coins or tickets or gems or pulls.

You like pulls? You're going to get free pulls. Wade Shadow Legends. I love pulls. In other news of Apple news, there was the, I feel like people just completely forgot it, but the watch did come out. And what is interesting about the watch that actually is a fascinating development is the advent of micro LED. Oh, I didn't see this. This kind of got completely glossed over. And I don't even know if they talked about it that much because maybe it's not, but what point,

what stands out to me is the brightness capable on the new apple watch ultra goes up to 3 000 nits which is pretty damn bright that's double the brightness of this really high quality portable monitor that i have for cameras that is meant to be used outdoor 3 000 nits is an incredible amount of light to pump out of something. And it's kind of fascinating that it like this was glossed over a lot. I mean, they obviously marketed it as selling, but I think I think this has Apple's newer proprietary display technology. It's like the first instance of it. It's like perfect for it because it's tiny, so they don't have to make big screens of it. But this is what Apple wants to do for displays is like create a new technology for displays

called micro LEDs, which, you know, it's, I don't know how functionally they work or how different they are. The name is similar, but you know, they like to name things however they name it. And so micro LED could lead to a display technology that is better than OLED, that has like more capabilities.

Micro LED displays offer superior performance for brightness and contrast from self-emission, typically much higher than organic light emitting diode, which is OLED. Yeah. So it's like, I think, I think those ultras are a micro LED display. This is saying, I don't know if this is true. This is saying that micro LED was sketched in for 2025 but it's been pushed back to 26 for the apple watch ultra to get it officially get micro led maybe which is like how are they getting 3 000 nits out of it yeah i mean that's well so that's peak that's peak brightness

too right that's not right that's not like it's on at 3 000 nits and you hold it up in the middle of the night in a dark room and you're all and you're blind forever that's like you're on a bright sunny day at high noon and you hold your watch up and the sun's glaring directly and your watch is all it's 330 and then it goes back to a reasonable brightness but i just looked up like the maximum brightness for oled panels as of 2023 is 2100 nits like that's that is the limit of what I thought. And for it to just say that it can do 3,000 nits, that's a lot.

That's a lot. Is this a micro LED panel? Is this like, like the beginning of new technology? Well, so it sounds like mini LED might be the current Apple display technology. Micro LED is like the next gen, but this might be mini LED screen tech because that's, they are upgrading. In 2021, the iPad this might be mini LED screen tech because that's they

are upgrading in 2021. The iPad Pros went to mini LED, it looks like. And in the new gen of MacBook Pros, they're doing mini LED right now. So maybe it's a mini LED. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. Because I see something in like earlier this year where a mini LED reached 2500 nits.

And I know it's like that's not directly like sizes. Maybe I'm crazy and this is still mini LED. It's just like that is that is a feature that i'm looking forward to because um it's incredibly bright yeah i don't really care about how bright and good i don't want to blind myself but just like advances in display technology or what i'm interested in but what do i know bob do you have another new story to go with marks this story um uh do you have new stories behind you oh no i thought i had one hang on am i looking for my phone sure yeah hanging on as we do at the news studio whenever we go over to bob with breaking news we usually uh hang on i'm i'm so looking forward to someone like on the subreddit pointing out that the apple watch ultra from last year was the same brightness and i'm just dumb and i might

be really dumb that one guy's been waiting for this moment he's salivating he's like finally he slipped yeah i feel like if it was they would say it a lot you know they would also i'm very sorry to those of you that were watching i know everyone hated the uh escape room episode we will try to do better i'm so sorry that you were all so disappointed in it yeah we're never gonna do that again yep never again uh the breaking news and we're gonna take a quick stroll down soldier boy street and and talk about how he thinks that the 2023 uh mtv video music awards were quote unquote whack and also fuck this shit you mean the one that shakira got an award at yeah he didn't

like it we were never speaking of him again so i don't he didn't specifically talk any stuff about shakira but he he didn't like he didn't think it did a good job he said where's drake where's beyonce jay-z e mtv fell off apparently he thought they did a very poor job of representing uh rap slash hip-hop Not going to lie. I didn't even actually know MTV was still around. Honestly, this might be the most same thing I've ever seen him say anywhere, given all the things we've talked about Soulja Boy doing and getting involved with. I mean, I'm not an authority on...

Breaking news. Soulja Boy makes rational opinion that we go, oh, that's fair. I don't follow his every move but this is pretty pretty sane and tame stuff from soldier boy he asked a fair question are you going to celebrate 50 years of hip-hop and not include some of the greatest of all time fair that's fair and honestly breaking news you know bob i'll give you the point for this round for bringing it back to soldier boy i had more soldier boy i was gonna i was gonna swing it back the other way uh the other headline i'm seeing about soldier boy is that fines and charges against him are currently

being pursued for soldier boy being involved in promoting a crypto scam oh no well these alleged allegations and things are terrible i don't know why i said that sarcastically yeah no i mean the soldier boy is not the only one crypto scab is like the new hotness in terms of what people are doing online which one so i could sell my shares i i think if you still have them i think you might have missed the boat on that i gotta be not my soldier shares i think you might be too late okay well i'll hop on the next insider trading that i can yeah i know you really you really gotta get inside before the trading happens wayne thank you and i would love to keep going with breaking news stories it's been a lot of fun but looking at the time here i feel like my time and this news stories time is up because we have

to transition over to the next show three grapes eating a pond uh so stay tuned for that uh at seven o'clock this has been the six o'clock Distractible Breaking News Hour. I said what I said, and I meant what I said, and I'm going to give points now and let someone win. This was actually very close. Bob, you finished with five points. I gave you two points at the start, and you got another three points for winning news stories.

Well, that sounds like a lot. Mark, you had zero points at the start, and you also won five news stories. However, I gave you two for one of them for shakira being brought up i talked about shark era yeah but you said it after he did and i was so excited for him to bring it up and then the imagery of her hips not lying and such just got that one bonus point giving mark six points and bob five points so i feel like you've been winning a lot of my episodes recently mark and i don't know why but I'm going to start charging you 20 cents

after every 10 wins okay alright it's a bit steep but fair fair fair yeah so I'm going to delete the terms of service and uh too soon Mark you have a winner's speech very well deserved I think the thunderbolt

more than Shakira clinched the victory for me but I'll take what I can get. Thank you, everybody, for believing in me. My reign of terror will begin. Never, I won't. Great. I regret my reign of terror. I believe him.

Thank you for trusting me. Yes. Bob, was that your loser speech, or do you have more to say? No, I deserve the win, and it's not my fault that I lost, so I feel pretty good about it. I think I played a strong game out there today. I think I executed the game plan and talked about some pretty spicy news.

And, you know, you can't... Sometimes the calls go against you, and what are you going to do? You can't complain about the refs? I think you have a permanent... Permanently? I think you have a very good case for why you should win this episode. I fully agree with you. I think your Unity story was definitely front page news,

and the host did a bad job of awarding there. It very much was, and the host said as much, and somehow that still wasn't enough. Crazy how that works out. But sometimes the chips just fall the way they fall, and Shakira's hips stole the day. I say we have a coin flip. Well, we couldn't possibly.

No, no, no. no episode's over couldn't possibly uh i'm gonna pee my pants uh thank you so much for watching if you haven't already go follow mark markiplier bob my screw my minion 777 or lord minion 777 we have merch maybe probably at store distractible podcast.com look for it or don't i don't know and i guess we'll see you next time for mark's not reign of terror. Until then, podcast out. Let me shuffle some papers here.