Distractible - Gaming News

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:34 As I'm getting older, I'm finding I'm really a pineapple guy. I'm like Wade, but with apples. Grab a Vitamin Water today, copyright 2025, Glass O. Vitamin Water is a registered trademark of Glass-O. Good evening, gentle listeners, all watchers, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, Malapert Mark asks for altruism, garrots, then the guys gabble about gaming. Watchable Wade has ear excruciation, is flummoxed by fecundity screams at cons and prophesies an RPG festival future blotchy Bob's bosom is a bull walk he waxes hard digs Dreamcast
Starting point is 00:02:12 but dogs doom and Blizzcon from oracle awareness to family massacres it's time for... Gaming News! Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. And then he evaporated and all you viewers Are seeing this the listeners were not gaslighting you this time Bob is gone wait is this thing on ah? Hey, who clicked record? I don't know it must been the ghosts. I'm not even wearing my headphones properly I had no idea we were doing this you look so different Maybe realize it was you with your headphones half off. Yeah, the headphones thing just made me realize like how ubiquitous this look is for Streamers and stuff and anyone that does content on the internet like we don't have ears when I would do this
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah, when I did this I was like, oh my god. It doesn't look right. What the fuck is going on? We should do we should do an episode where we all just wear earbuds. And so we don't have... I look fucking weird on camera without the headphones. I mean, I can do it. My head is like pointy. No, no. See, this is weird. This is not normal.
Starting point is 00:03:40 This is not... If I change these headphones, my videos would fundamentally be different because I've had these for so long. These have been the headphones that I've used forever. Why hasn't Sennheiser given me money for that? Man, I really should- I really should hold that against them. Missed opportunity. Hey Audio Technica, I see an opportunity. And we're always fishing for more opportunities for money, but that's why this is Distractable, the money-focused podcast. You want to get rich? Listen to us podcast you want to get rich listen to us
Starting point is 00:04:05 You want to get poor listen to us? We will guide you on the ups and downs farther up and farther down than you've ever been in your life That's why they call us the Jim Kramer of comedy stock podcasts. What are those? Listeners way just gesture behind him. Yeah, the numbers the stock numbers give us some stock numbers, Wade Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Would you say craft is mac and cheese right now making cheese making oh I get it
Starting point is 00:04:47 I get it that was exactly four-way. Come on now. Oh, come on. I would never tell a joke like that I'll give you a half a point for the attempt. We are down without yet All right. So this is the podcast that you wanted it is it is Distractible where we rotate out host depending on who won the last episode I won the last one which means that I'm the host so I make up this episode and I assigned points to these two gentlemen Bob and Wade who are going to earn points through their wit and through their strength and their ability to pick stocks apparently. Whoever loses the most money in the next hour wins! Every a point for every ten thousand dollars in debt you are Spicy if you're already in debt, I'll count those points wait. This is getting oddly personal Those repairs have been a adding up haven't they this isn't a fair episode. I've got I don't stand a chance You rich bastards. I could never have the kind of debt that Wayne has
Starting point is 00:05:47 So Before we get started with the main episode which I'm gonna I'm gonna warn you you already know from the title But you know, I guess there's no real surprise here So I guess you sometimes I'm like I shouldn't say what it is But I guess it's for your benefit anything. Anyway, let's get with the small talk It's been not too long since we last spoke, but the world keeps spinning. I just want to say I got away with something and I want to brag about it. I got away scot-free. I got zero consequences. It's been really hot. It's really hot in summertime. It's
Starting point is 00:06:20 been like high nineties, which for Ohio is pretty odd because it's also like really humid and gross. But we went to the pool, which is fun. But I am like, I don't, I, my face is probably the tannest part of me. The rest of me is more like this color, which is just blindingly pale white. We went to the pool and I don't know why, but I put sunscreen on everywhere except my least tan parts. I like didn't sunscreen my torso. And we got to the pool and I was like, hmm, should I put sunscreen on now that we're here? Or should I just take my shirt off and jump in the pool? Which I obviously did the second one and I didn't get, I didn't even get more tan than I was. Like I didn't get anything. I didn't get sunburned. We were in the pool for a solid hour and a half outside without a shirt.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I don't know what happened because I get sunburned sitting in a car sometimes. Was there sunlight? It was bright. It was the middle of the afternoon. It was like 94 degrees outside. Super sunny. Nothing. Couldn't tell you what happened. I honestly I got a little like my, you know, when you feel that like almost sunburned where you kind of feel, I got that on my cheeks and I was like, Oh man, I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night screaming in agony from this one.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And then I woke up the next day and was as pale as ever. I don't know what happened. I'm just going to go out and say it. I think I've developed an immunity to the sun. I was literally writing that. Yeah. Only on my torso. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Immune to sun, which is really impressive. Science, please dissect that man and analyze him. I submit. Would you, if you, okay, let's say for example, like you naturally had an immunity to almost every type of cancer, right? Like your body somehow naturally fights it off. I accept, go on.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Would you sacrifice yourself in the name of science so that they could dissect you and figure out how, I mean they could probably draw your blood, but let's say that that wasn't a possibility. They tried. Assuming there was no way to do it other than to kill me and completely eviscerate me for whatever reason. Since it's not a real scenario, I'm going to say of course I would Mark. What kind of monster wouldn't make such a meaningless sacrifice in this in the face of saving millions and millions of humans?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Of course, I would wouldn't even think about it Sacrifice point you get that all right as soon as I'm dead of natural causes they can have me I hereby submit myself I Hereby submit myself after death to whatever they want you they can't figure out the secret to your cancer immunity Unless they kill you if you die of natural causes it dies with you We need science to advance a bit before they're ready for what I got, you know, like I'm bringing it. All right, let's say Instead of cancer you Wade have this natural ability where you just don't age right oh clearly you don't have that but hypothetically hey hey hey hey hey you
Starting point is 00:09:13 watch yourself over there oh okay I can't hear you wait is suffering from an ear infection apparently look see? Yeah I have ears too. Point for every ear. You can't age so you generally wouldn't die of what you would probably call natural cause. Your heart won't give out, you're not gonna you know no cancers like you'll you're gonna be fine. Would you submit yourself? Soon as I'm dead of unnatural causes that aren't murder or manslaughter? They can have me what's a ghost gonna kill you? Something better it better not be intentional to get my body Alright, so you you could say you won't because it sounds like a no what no the answer. Yes
Starting point is 00:09:58 asterisk terms and conditions apply mark Point I'm gonna put asterisk and say terms and conditions apply. I'll take it. Wade, what's going on with you? So listen, a week ago I had to go to the doc and I was like, hey doc, my throat's a mess, sinuses are bad and I don't feel good, what's up? The doc's like, mm, your left ear, not looking so good,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but you know what'll fix you up? Some good old Moxacillin. You want the pretty drinky or you want the nasty pill pill? They're like, ooh, pretty drinky. They're like, all right, you get the pill. Okay, so took some of Mox Mox, got all better, got the clean bill of health, went to Florida, did some swim, swimmin', had a great time.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Flew back home of what, four or five days ago? Was fine, went to my mom's house, jumped in my mom's pool, got out. flew back home of... what, four or five days ago? was fine. went to my mom's house, jumped in my mom's pool, got out. AGONY! went back to the doc doc ooh, you got a little wah-wah! better get you some drop drops so now I've got like swimmers here
Starting point is 00:10:59 ugh, what doctor are you going to? he still sees his pediatrician laughter he's been seeing the same seven year old pediatrician since he was six months old. Yeah, I have Molly put me in a really big carrier and I've got the bald head, so we just put a little blanket over. Pushed in on a stroller and your legs are displayed
Starting point is 00:11:18 and I'm like, Ducky, my ear hurt. Oh. I don't know, I got a swimmer's ear and I've always thought that like, I don't know, I got a swimmer's ear and I've always thought that like, I don't know, I think I had it as a kid and I didn't remember it, but I was like, I have a little water in the ear, I have a big whoop, what's that gonna do?
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's not that bad. This is the most painful shit I've ever dealt with. It's fucking terrible. Like when you're trying to sleep, I don't know what it is about laying down, but it's the most agonizing fucking thing in the world of when you wake up after like two hours of sleep and you're just whole head is clogged and on fire I was looking through forums last night to make myself feel better
Starting point is 00:11:52 like maybe someone else has gone through this pain every forum was like I've given birth 36 times but nothing compares to swimmers here and I said that feels like an exaggeration but also like ow It hurts how many times did they give birth? Oh? 36 I don't feel like that's the same number that you just said but alright double wanted to check the VOD Haven't you seen that reality show mark Stevie and Jamie Nicks plus 36. Yep Check though, Tray that you say so mom I Jamie Nicks plus 36. Yep. Oh man, I gotta check that one. Treyt.esaysobomb. Oh man. I don't even know what the record is for most kids,
Starting point is 00:12:31 but I feel like that would break it for sure. But I am sorry about your ear. I got fleeced in ear related news. What? Sorry, go ahead. I found the record for most kids. All right, well let's get that out of the way. Let's see what that is before we all.
Starting point is 00:12:46 This says 69 is the record, but there's no way that's true. What? Valentina Vasilieva, the first wife of Russian peasant, Fyodor Vasiliev. It had to be multiple, like, twins and stuff, right? 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of tri triplets and four sets of quadruplets There's no way this is this has to be a lie or a book or something It's guinness. So they kind of verify don't they 1765 was the last birth 69 nice
Starting point is 00:13:19 1707 I mean, okay. This is hard to verify because it's so far in the past, but wow That's it's a lot of kids number three on the list is 55 and that was 1981 was the last one that's Incredible if that's true, that's incredible 36 would be ninth on this list nine. All right. Okay, maybe it's Unimpressive, huh? Yeah now top that with whatever you were gonna say. Oh, you're a generous host? Alright, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'm not gonna give you a point back. Okay. So, I don't know if you guys have seen, there's a lot of people that were pushing this like ear camera thing to clean your ears. And so, all my life, and this is a confession and I'm not saying people should do this, is I take Q-tips and I clean my ears after a shower to get the water out.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I generally just like it's something I do, it's a habit. And I know that that has been said to be very bad and I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm not disagreeing with that at all. I have a certain technique that I do about it. Like I spin and twist as I'm rotating around the sides. I'm not just slamming it in there. I spin and twist.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I was like, oh God, I bet I have earwax in my ear because of my history of doing that for all my life. I stick that camera in my ear. And I've seen the videos of the people doing it with their ears. I don't know what they're putting in their ears. My ears were pristine Absolutely clean not even the tiniest speck of earwax and I stuck a camera in both of my ears and I looked and it
Starting point is 00:14:55 Was utterly clean now I'm not saying everyone should start q-tip it because I have I have what 30 years of experience doing it in Precisely the right way that I don't slam into my eardrums because I'm not doing that and apparently I've created a technique that can really work to my advantage in doing that but I'm also very curious of how other people's ears get so incredibly clogged. Genetically I produce a lot of wax. I think we're actually ear twins, Mark. Yeah? I have the exact same. I have Q-tipped since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I have never had issues. My ears are pristinely clean. I do produce a fair amount of earwax. Every day I Q-tip, I get some out. It's not like there's days where it's like there's nothing. I make a lot of earwax. My theory is if you do it regularly and you do it safely, like you can absolutely damage your ear and cause problems with a q-tip. But if you do it safely and carefully, I feel like it's the best
Starting point is 00:15:54 way to do it. My ear canals are pristinely clean and I'm exactly right there with you. I swear to God other people produce earwax that's like... Calc. I don't know yeah like it's chunky which is not a thing I would ever describe. My earwax is always like soft and easily removed. Mine is cement mortar that exists and hardens and calcifies and mummifies and petrifies and stupefies. We have the good ears Mark. Yeah we got the good ears and we're not saying everyone should start doing it because I feel like someone hasn't done it and they have like a bunch of your voice.
Starting point is 00:16:29 If they push it in, they will compact what's there. Like it needs to be, you need to get a professional cleaning or something like that and then maintain it. It's like flossing. If you haven't flossed in a while, you floss once, blood everywhere. You've just destroyed your entire tooth structure. But, ow, my teeth hurt just from saying that no, I hate that. Thank you Yeah, anyway, I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'll deduct the point for myself And We're not saying do the ear thing. But yeah, yeah, I mean probably if you haven't ever done it You definitely shouldn't but like I'm with you mark. I everyone knows I was like don't use q-tips It's so dangerous. I'm like if I don't use q-tips for like a few days it gets really gross yeah I want to use I want to keep it clean in there they've got multiple ways of like if you just go to your general position that they'll clean your ears they've like three different ways they'll
Starting point is 00:17:17 do it they have the scraper they have like the really loud suction machine and then my favorite is the weird water bowl where they like put water in your ear. And then like you pour it back out and you make ear cereal. I'm so glad I've cleaned my ears regularly throughout my life so I don't have to experience ear cereal. I clean mine too, but let me tell you, I produce a shit ton of wax.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I don't have to go anywhere to get clean ears. I just do that at home. Oh God, the day after I get my ears cleaned, it's like. Does it affect your hearing? This is the thing I don't understand. It's like in those videos online where people's ears are like completely stopped up with wax. Isn't that just like wearing an earplug?
Starting point is 00:17:59 It can be, yeah. If my ear wax was so thick and that it was affecting my hearing, I would be like, well, I should probably do something, not, my hearing, I would be like, well, I should probably do something, not, oh, well, I have a lot of earwax. I don't know. Well, I mean, you would probably notice because it's like, you know, frog in pot of boiling water, they don't notice the change because it's taking place over such a long period
Starting point is 00:18:17 of time, probably. And then suddenly it's like, wow, I can't hear at all. No, it is like that for me with my buildup. Whenever I go get my ears cleaned, it's like, oh, I can't hear at all. No, it is like that for me with my buildup. Whenever I go get my ears cleaned, it's like, oh my God, I talk a lot after I get it done. And then- That's so crazy. It's feel as judgy.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm not at all looking down on people who have that different kind of earwax or whatever, but like, that must be fucking weird to live with. Wade is, Wade's looking down on you. Oh, there's nothing like focusing on all these different ear topics while mine is just pulsating and... Yeah, how's your ear, Wade? Feeling good?
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's hard. I have a few drugs in today and it's still not good. Don't think about flossing your ears. Don't think about that. It made me... made my teeth hurt. It'll just make your ears hurt. Kind of a cool like... Eee, eee,, yeah, because I know there's a brain in between. You just fish it in there and then you get out the other side and then you're just like, ah, yeah. No, it'd be like, you know, the thing that assassins, like the wire that people put around their necks,
Starting point is 00:19:17 it'd be like that through your head and it would get coiled up and it'd cut your brain off from your brain stem, I don't want to do that. Well, wouldn't I feel better if I just cut my brain stem off then I wouldn't have to be conscious of anything anymore? Wouldn't that be good? If it gets stuck in your ear teeth and like breaks off, that would suck.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Your ear teeth? What do you have in your ears? Your ear teeth? Yeah, that's how you chew up sound, man. Mark, you wouldn't know cause you don't have to crunch up your ear bricks, but how do you think ear brick people crunch up their ear bricks?
Starting point is 00:19:44 This is where their ear teeth, Mark. And then you use your ear tongue, but how do you think ear brick people crunch up their ear bricks? This is where their ear teeth mark. And then you use your ear tongue to move them around and spit them out. Oh god, I don't like how many points I've written to have ear in them. Like when you take a sip and an ice cube actually gets in there and you're all bleh. No, no, no, no, no. I'll give a point to anyone that can't that says a small talk that's not ear related Well, my other ears don't great All right, let's move on
Starting point is 00:20:15 This episode is brought to you by uber You know that feeling when someone shows up for you just when you need it most that's what uber is all about you just when you need it most. That's what Uber is all about. Like when Wade's house was flooding and falling to pieces all around him and you showed up just when he needed you to so you could film it and exploit it for views on the internet? No. Whatever it is, big or small, Uber is on the way so you can be on yours. Uber, on our way to your house, Wade. So today's topic is something that we used to cover a lot and I feel like we don't do it enough We're talking about gaming news because ladies and gentlemen, we're on the cusp of a new generation Shockingly switch to is out
Starting point is 00:21:00 PlayStation 6 rumors are swirling the Xbox whatever the hell they're doing is rumoring like we don't even know what's going on over there. So I'd have PC and S tier. We're talking tier list right? Okay back to you. No go ahead give me your tier. Let's see what you got. Uh PC's up there, PlayStation's up there. Up where?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Oh S, S, S, S. Or Z. Xbox is like you know the good Xbox that one generation of people liked that that can be You know S S S S S or Z Xbox is like, you know the good Xbox that one generation people liked that that can be like single S switch It's like a C Steam deck maybe a B switch to it. I don't have one so I don't know where to rank it yet But I'm just gonna say B. I had this the Steam deck and it was it was nice, but it was way too big I was so used to being able to hold the switch that when it came down to trying to like play anything I tried to play Eldering on it and it worked, you know acceptable framerates not bad graphics
Starting point is 00:21:56 But you know just trying to do the controls just it was too big and unwieldy to do I would have rather had like a laptop and a controller tied to it and just play that way as opposed to trying to do on a Steam Deck. But that being said, you know, I recognize what it's trying to do and I do appreciate it. It kind of started something cool there. Even the Switch I got tired of holding. Really? Yeah, that weak. Switch is too small for me. Somehow I'm with you that the Steam Deck was too big, but then the Switch is somehow is like the
Starting point is 00:22:28 Ergonomics of it make it also awkward for being small I don't know I would like a handheld to be designed exactly to fit my natural body angles How did you live in the Gameboy color era? Yeah Did you have a Gameboy like any kind of Gameboy that you played on? I didn't have a Gameboy until a Gameboy Advance and I had the limited release well not that special but I had the fuchsia pink see-through plastic Game Boy Advance which was sick. See-through purple Game Boy colors where it was at. I also hated the ergonomics of that but I was also in middle school so I probably thought less about it than I do now that I'm old and my joints crunch. I stink.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm sorry. But anyway, we're we're approaching this next generation of gaming. And honestly, it's been an interesting year for gaming going from like PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5. Because I think PlayStation 4 was the last time that graphics did a giant jump and everyone's like, oh, it's amazing. Then went to 5 and it's like, it's good. And now we're going to 6 and so things are getting more powerful. What is, I mean, what's the point? Literally, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:23:35 What is the point? What's the biggest graphical jump we've had? For me, in my experience, it was PlayStation to PlayStation 2. I'd say 2 to 3 was a big jump. Yeah, I was gonna say 2 to 3 era, wasn't it? I mean, 1 to 2, definitely big jump. Xbox to 360. Yeah, yeah, that was quite a jump.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Because then you went from like Halo 1 to Gears of War when those cinemax were coming out and like the previous for that. And then you saw the game and it was like, whoa. I will say I also went from having like an N64 to the Dreamcast, because we did have a Dreamcast in my house. That was an interesting switch.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Because the Dreamcast is pretty like idiosyncratic in how it looked. And I don't know if it was the way the system worked or the whatever, but I thought the Dreamcast was mind blowing when I got that jump back in the day. But that was also a weird switch. Yeah, that was an odd one.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Kind of like slanted, not quite up, not quite to the side, just off that way. Yeah, so. But the Dreamcast was great. I don't know why it failed. I never know why these things fail. I thought that was cool. This is the little memory card slash Tamagotchi's that you put in the controller. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It was so cool. Why did it? How could it fail? Who could it fail? So anyway, general gaming news. What is going on in the world out there? Uh, well, Warner Brothers is continuing to explode in different ways. It sounds like they're restructuring the way that they do video games.
Starting point is 00:25:00 They're going to be focusing, what was it, on Game of Thrones Harry Potter DC and Mortal Kombat as they like split up how they are handling gaming in general it sounds like their main company is gonna focus on those like few IPs and I don't know what the other splits gonna be but great good IPs to focus on it's a choice I feel like you're just limiting yourself so much by focusing on specific things like that How much did they spend on that suicide squad game? Wasn't it a lot? It was a lot Was it good? Not that I heard and not a lot of people played it
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's it's this problem where when when I read those IP lists I I can hear the boardroom of old I can hear the boardroom of old businessmen trying so hard to make a movie instead of a game, and they're trying so hard to apply everything that they think they know about entertainment to this other sphere. And then you have that which is which you know, in any other content, it'd be a fine game. But when people were doing graphical comparisons to previous generations, it was a downgrade to the actual like, gameplay itself, it was a downgrade to the actual like gameplay itself It was a downgrade and it's just like I don't get how they have these other games that they've made the systems that they Made for him and every time they make a new game They throw all that out and then they just start over and they rush the next time and I'm not running a game this
Starting point is 00:26:21 games radar reports that WB lost 200 million on the Suicide squad killed the Justice League. That's not that they spent 200 million on development But that's like their reported loss on the game as a whole which implies They did spend a lot on development and that probably means they spent more than 200 million Oh my god, I can't even... Apparently, Game of Thrones had a Kingsroad game that came out a month ago. It's got mixed reviews on Steam.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Is it a gotcha? There was a Game of Thrones game? Yeah, Kingsroad. It came out May 21st. And they didn't call it Game of Game of Thrones? Game of Thrones, Kingsroad. Momentum gates, multiple unnecessary currencies, limited daily rewards, unless you pay, loot locked behind timers, tiny inventory, unless you cough up, it's a pay to win type game.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Which mobile games, you know, they exist, they can be fun, but like, is that their only gaming IP? Do they have a game that's not a pay to win game? No, because of course they don't. They don't because they don't understand anything besides that and I think a counterpoint to their Style of doing it and a recent success. I have not played this but I've heard a lot of good things about it is Claire obscure expedition 33 which I think is a really Fascinatingly bad name for a game But that's what I thought at first when first when I saw the name pop up on Steam or wherever I was looking,
Starting point is 00:27:49 but it gets glowing reviews and it's made by a small team that is offshoot of one of the big studios. I forget who, I don't know the full history of it, but people love that game and it's made by a small team trying to really focus on making something that they wanted to play
Starting point is 00:28:05 It's it's so good to see a thing like that work to showcase Now that all of the industry has matured and there's so many tools out there with like Unreal Engine Whatever you want to make it out of like Unreal Engine or Unity or whatever there are so many tools that are there for people to make games Yet still billion dollar companies are churning out garbage. Just garbage, doesn't make any sense to me. Have you guys heard about that game? Yeah, I've actually played it a bit. It's very fun.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And I think, funny enough, if I'm remembering correctly, it's called Expedition 33. I think the team had like 34 people on it, which is pretty funny. But it did take six years to make. Guillaume Broche, I'm sure I said that wrong, had the idea in 2020 and started making like, making sort of prototypes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And it took them until this year to get it out. I guess that's not six years, it's five years, but it did take a long time. But yeah, that's technically like a double A title. And I feel like that's one of them better received games I can recall in recent memory Versus a lot. I can't really think of a triple a game that came out and everyone was like, oh, it's so good I'm it be like the best case for triple A's right now is they come out and everyone's like yeah
Starting point is 00:29:18 That's pretty much what I thought it would be one of the first spider-man game was pretty well received. That's old I know Don't know that come out? I'm sure. I don't know. That's... That was the beginning PlayStation of... PlayStation 4... Er... No.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Late PlayStation 4. That was a launch title for PS5, wasn't it? Well, yeah. It was one of the ones that bridged, like, it released late PS4 and then re-released early PS5. Would Elden Ring count as AAA? That would be AAA, I believe. Yeah. You would count that AAA.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I think that one of the things that I see from it's so simple because I look at gameplay of these games and I can instantly tell that there is gameplay here and that's the biggest problem I see with games today and I harp on this probably people think of a broken record but I'm like they're trying so hard to make a movie and that's what I always see you can have cinematics in the game I like cinematics in the game I don't mind them at all I used to watch just cinematics of games but it has to have gameplay in between the cinematics and I can tell this game has a very tight game loop there's a lot to play there like actually playing the thing so that's what I that's what I like to see and that's what you
Starting point is 00:30:24 don't see out of... I mean, I looked at gameplay of the King's Road of that Game of Thrones games and I'm like, oh God, just looking at it, I can tell it's a guy running around. He hopped over a log and they thought this was the best shot to put in the trailer. This is so funny to me. It makes me feel like maybe I'm out of touch almost, but I've had that same thing with the Dune, Dune Awakening. That's been so big. And I was at PAX East this year in Boston and Dune Awakening had a big presence, if
Starting point is 00:30:57 I remember. Like there was a big, like it's been everywhere. I've been getting advertisements for Dune Awakening aggressively. I couldn't really tell what the gameplay looked like until I actually just went and watched like a streamer play it. I don't, that seems crazy to me, but it feels like the advert- like it feels like they're doing it on purpose. Well, how could you advertise a video game and the take, one of the main takeaways is
Starting point is 00:31:21 not obviously, oh, this is what it will be like to play that game. Even if it's wrong, because it's totally possible to make a trailer for a game and use footage and clips and things of like stuff that isn't representative of the main gameplay loop or stuff that is, you know, the coolest shit in the game is in the trailer and the rest, you know, that's maybe misleading, but that's fine. I feel like I didn't see a single piece of advertising for Dune Awakening where I came away and I was like, oh, it's like this other game.
Starting point is 00:31:50 It's like this kind of, how do they even do that? Because it's not like it's a gotcha game. There is gameplay in Dune Awakening. It's like a survival crafting thing, right? Like there's, you wander around, you explore the world, there's like vehicles and shit. I hear there's a lot of PVP, whether you want it or not. Yeah, I've heard that too. I see that explore the world. There's like vehicles and shit. I hear there's a lot of PvP whether you want it or not Yeah, I've heard that too. I see that in the reviews. I'm not gonna play it
Starting point is 00:32:09 It's not doesn't look that interesting to me But I just thought it was crazy that until I just saw people playing it after full release I still didn't have like a really good image of what the gameplay was what the game was gonna really look like or be Which made me just completely uninterested Whether or not I was going to play it because of my personal preferences. If I look at a thing, I had the same reaction you did, Mark. When I looked at Claire Obscure Expedition 33, I just looked at the title and I was like, oh, and I was immediately like, I'm not going to, I'm probably not going to be interested in that, but I am. It's a good game. Like it's cool. But
Starting point is 00:32:45 there's a lot of these things that marketing people and like the game developers are just making decisions that immediately are like confusing confounding to me very much so and I think another example of that is I don't know if you guys have heard of mines I I have I know that because of the co carnage thing that happened but the coke harness thing is that where he was he was on stream and I don't think so. I know that because of the co-carnage thing that happened, but... The co-carnage thing? Is that where... He was on stream and he was about to go into a sponsored...
Starting point is 00:33:11 I think it was Mind's Eye. He was about to go into a sponsored segment and he was literally like, all right guys, we're going to play a new game. Like I'm going to turn this game is called Mind's Eye. He was like doing the preamble to now we're going to play this sponsored segment. And literally he was like, while he was doing that on stream, he was like doing the preamble to now we're gonna play this sponsored segment and literally he was like while he was doing that on stream he was like oh wait a minute okay while I was doing that introduction I got an email and they have officially paused the sponsored segment I was about to do so but I was like out live on stream as he was already live doing the...
Starting point is 00:33:48 Anyway, it was... but I've seen a lot of people... There's other clips of streamers who are clearly like they're doing a sponsored segment and they're like playing the game and some terrible shit happens and they're like, Don't forget guys, this is sponsored by Mind's Eye, so... If you want to play this it has mostly negative reviews right now it's a $60 game there's a lot of funny clips about it but the thing about it is I bet it's a fine game because it's like it's trying to be kind of like GTA or cyberpunk you know it's like an open city kind of game there's been other those besides those games that have been around I think
Starting point is 00:34:22 it's really the performance issues that I saw most of the most of the reviews about. And I'm I'm so curious how these business decisions come down, where they there's an executive, right? And there's a game here that clearly is not ready. Like it's not ready. But the executives like we got a date to hit, we got make it ready push push push we can do it They're probably thinking they're inspirational when in reality They would make more money if they had waited and allowed the team to finish it because I don't doubt that the team Wanted to make it right and all of them were ripping their hair out like it's not ready Are they crazy and yet someone's cramming a deadline down their throats to get it out?
Starting point is 00:35:05 I don't know if that's the situation but I imagine because that that is a common thing that happens in gaming Yeah, I mean I do think that's a that that's not exclusive to gaming You can certainly tell that there are like other forms of media where Someone who wasn't in the creative process or someone who was just in charge of it was like we gotta hit this deadline. And then they pushed it out before they push the movie out before it's done, before it's fully baked or they push a TV series out when it's like it would have really benefited from you know another six months or another year or something and it would have it could have been really good and instead it's this.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But I feel like the thing with video games is it is not the entire representative of the entire community but especially games like MindsEye where their marketing strategy involves streamers. The community is much more like interactive around it, right? If you go and you see a movie that turns out to be shit because it was rushed out and you'll talk to your friends, you might talk to people, you know, like if you're, if your work people, you'll talk to them about it, but you're not like interacting with thousands of people live while you're watching the movie and being like,
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh my God, guys, this is so terrible. But like when you, they paid streamers to play their game. And then apparently the co-carnage incident was only one of several where they literally, while people were streaming, tried to cut them off and were like, stop broadcasting just to try and stop them from sharing their negative impression of the game because like they were streaming the game sponsored segment and then it was breaking or I don't know the details, but like, when you make that your marketing strategy, everyone gets to talk about in
Starting point is 00:36:35 real time, how shitty your thing is. It generates all these hilarious clips of streamers who are like, Oh, I don't know if I'd recommend buying this, but it's this is sponsored by Minds Eye guys like it it's crazy to do do the first part where you rush it out and then do the second part where you're like and make sure everyone talks about it a bunch. That's a terrible idea. As of nine hours ago, it looks like they're they announced layoffs. No, God, that's not what they should do. I bet they definitely laid off the people at the top who caused this and not at all. Only the people who were making the game who had nothing to do with how it turned out and were forced to put this unfinished work out into the public.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's a formal consultation process that may result in redundancies. Oh my god. So it's layoffs. Because they have the worst rated game of the year so far with a 2.6 out of 10 on Metacritic and a 38 out of 100 gaming journalist score. What I think they don't realize as a team and because again, they're in movie mindset is you can make the game better and Gamers do appreciate that. No Man's Sky. No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk when it released was a goddamn mess.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It's now one of the most successful games, incredibly well-rated because they kept working on it. They just kept, you can make it better after that. People don't really want that to be the strategy, but here's a review. Here's a review that someone wrote. This game reeks of mismanagement. This is someone has 12 hours into this game. Not a lack of talent by the development team.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I ignored all the initial reviews and actually enjoyed myself a fair bit, but I wouldn't recommend the game to anyone. I'd recommend they watch some gameplay make it their own mind. It runs great on my 5090 and Intel i9 Ultra, but DLSS and frame gen needed to be active to achieve any kind of solid FPS Bugs were few and far between but they were there occasionally a I would just freeze and they're not particularly smart, but they're serviceable It's pretty it has issues with jaw draw distance It reminds me of like a B studio PS 2 action game linear not a lot of variety and the story is kind of forgettable But it provides a dopamine kick, there's a game in here. There's a game that could be fun if they just spent even a fraction of the amount that they spent developing it. Just, like, let the team work on it to fix the
Starting point is 00:38:55 bugs. Let them fix it and re-release every update as free. Don't make them pay for it again, because I imagine some executives are like, I bet we could do that do that don't how soon can we release a remastered version of this terrible flop we just shit out oh god a pre mastered version it's not confusing cuz I feel like on some level I understand the mindset of the people who end up in charge of things like this like I get what they're thinking but I just don't understand why they're the ones who end up in charge of things like this. Like I get what they're thinking, but I just don't understand why they're the ones who end up in charge of these decisions because there are clearly people who know how to take the time that it takes and know how to make good games. And I think that includes probably people on the team that made
Starting point is 00:39:39 Mind's Eye. I'm sure a lot of them are great at what they do. Some of them are probably good at, would have been good at leading this and getting a really good game out of the like assets that they have and the team that they have. But not like I know anything firsthand about managing games, but it is it is crazy even from our perspective. It feels like you can see like oh well that was a stupid call, but on the inside no one is, I mean maybe no one has the authority and that's part of the problem, but no one ever saves these, maybe no one has the authority and that's part of the problem. But no one ever saves these things.
Starting point is 00:40:08 They turn out the same. And man, the layoffs. You guys want to talk about gaming news? It's layoff season, boys. Oh, why? Why are there so many layoffs? It's layoff season. Well, because AI is going to save it, right? I was look, I was like trying to scan stuff and remember...
Starting point is 00:40:25 Wait, just flashed me his naturals. His big naturals. What? I missed it. I was trying to scroll headlines and remember the gaming news that I had sort of gone over in the last little bit. And all it was like, oh, yay, third wave of layoffs in two years. Microsoft planning major layoffs next week. BioWare scaled back after the Dragon Age, whatever it was called, the most recent Dragon Age was underwhelming.
Starting point is 00:40:55 There was another one. Splitgate 2 developer, 1047 Games. Yeah, People Can Fly joins a gaming wide layoffs, industry wide cost cutting and cancellations. What a rough time. Games do get shit on a lot and they sometimes deserve it, but it really does suck whenever you think about the fact there's people behind it that did put their heart and souls and they're usually the ones that pay the price.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's shitty that that is the case and it's even worse because you know that the executives are pre-doing that in the time when everyone's doing it because they're like, well, we won't get bad press if everyone's doing it. So that's why there are layoff seasons. But now it's probably especially bad because all the executives are probably like, oh, man, we'll save so much money with AI replacing all these actual humans. That'll fix it. Yep. An AI won't talk back and tell us that our schedules are too aggressive. Hmm, hmm, jeez. They won't ask for sleep or food.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Anyway, I'm really trying desperately to find some like, Good news. Positive. Death Stranding 2, it looks like it's ready pretty well. It comes out in like, it will have been out for a little bit by the time this airs, but it comes out in a couple days for us.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Death Stranding. Is that the one with the babies in the goop and the running around across the terrain and the Norman Reedus? That guy. Yeah. It, what's his, Oh, what's his face? I haven't played the, the original. Um, cause again, I tried to get into Metal Gear Solid, which I believe it's the same developers Hideo Kojima. I believe, um, they are, they scratch a very specific itch for a certain type of gamer. Unfortunately, I am not that type of gamer.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So it's just not my type of game, but I would never. Molly played it and she got super into the story. I don't know how she felt about the game as a whole. I had to ask her, but she got super into the story and the lore and was like, even after finishing it, she was all into like the lore and stuff for weeks afterward, just like looking into stuff. So I imagine it's the perfect game for someone a lot of walking isn't it like you kind of walk a lot I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:51 Stranding definitely a lot of walking yeah it's basically a walking simulator right isn't that the whole thing intense walking wasn't there a walking wait by the maker of like getting over it didn't then that guy make it like a walking game they didn't make baby steps did they oh yes yeah they did that is okay baby steps yes who's your daddy that's a different game I don't know that that was made yeah Bennett Foddy is on there baby steps that just came out recently it looks funny it looks weird it looks like Bennett Foddy had their fingers in it but it does look pretty funny I don't really think it's made for enjoyment
Starting point is 00:43:24 unless you like getting over it, which as I recall, Mark was a huge fan of, or something like that. You played it a lot. Oh my God! Yeah, I sure did. Fuck! I sure did.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Oh my God! What a meme, great meme. I legitimately have not played much in terms of Rage Games. The last one I did was when I was last year in in Austin, still working on the movie, which definitely not doing that now. It's all done.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. Good thing that's done. Yeah, that came out like last spring, right? Yeah, for sure. But I was playing the climbing offshoot of that one. I forget what it was called. But oh I remember that it is bad for me It's just bad for me. My blood pressure can't deal. I can picture the game I can't think of the name of it. We'd like swing go up. Yeah. Yeah some climbing climbing or a climbing horror game No, wait, didn't you play a climbing horror game?
Starting point is 00:44:25 What was that called? White Knuckle? Oh, that was great. White Knuckle, White Knuckle. Oh man, I can't believe I haven't talked about that. This is one of the few games that I played recently that has the tightest game loop. It, the actual gameplay, but it makes climbing
Starting point is 00:44:40 the most fun of any game that I've ever played. It is, that's all it is, it's just you're climbing, no matter what, you're just getting out of this pit while this horrible amalgamation of nightmarish goop is rising below you and will absorb you into its mass, and that's terrible, but White Knuckle, as far as gameplay goes, it's awesome, super fun. It's just plain and simple fun,
Starting point is 00:45:04 and the environment, the atmosphere all gels to, it's the perfect distillation of when a game knows what it's about really solidifies that funnel down into like its theme and Everything about the theming fits in the world in the story into the gameplay loop. The entire world is built around Verticality and the the idea of climbing first out of the ground and then up this tower. It's all about that and it's just really fun. It's difficult, but it's fun. So I love White Knuckle. White Knuckle is great. 17 precision movement mechanics. I'm reading the description about it and it says to send through the guts of substructure 17 using... I'll substructure 17 using precision movement, substructure 17 using precision movement mechanics.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It has 17 precision movement mechanics. You know, jump, small jump, left jump, yoinky-geet. Yoink and yeet, that actually is a really good strategy in that game. That's great. It reminds me of like old Doom and Wolfenstein graphics, but like better. It gives me that feel just looking at the screenshots and stuff Mm-hmm. Yeah, it very much has a retro aesthetic which is very common in indie games because it's easier to develop Let's let's be honest people love it though. It's overwhelmingly positive. There's a lot of reviews
Starting point is 00:46:15 It's just really good. If you look at all the reviews, it's just the climbing is satisfying it is satisfying It's fun. It keeps you going. It is it's a and it's at a right price point for that game. It's 13. I believe $13 It was on sale when I first got it. I think whoa whoa whoa 1299. Sorry 1299 not even $13 I know under $13 Wow, I know I've made controversial statements about game pricing and people assume that when I said Realistically, it could be this that it should be that is like there are different nuances to these things But that's a good price for this game It's made by a small team, but they work really hard at it and it just works
Starting point is 00:47:01 It works really well and I love it. What a positive thing. This might be a positive one, maybe. Wade and Molly might be excited about this one. Blizzard has apparently officially confirmed that in September of 2026, there's going to be a revival of BlizzCon. Ooh, okay. I mean, I've only gone once, but.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I just, I know, I mean, you had a funny story about sneaking in past security guards and whatnot, but I know that that was someone I knew. Oh, that's right. That's right. I don't, I think you're past the statute of limitations. Don't worry, buddy. Anyway, I don't really know any specifics about it, but like if we set aside the current and more recent history accusations about behaviors and interpersonal things and everything about Activision Blizzard that you might know. BlizzCon is a classic to me, and conventions in general I feel like are part of the gaming community that I think is in a in a weird place right now. Like I said, I was at PAX East in Boston this year. It's the first one I had been to since I was at E3 2019 and I haven't been to a Consense.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And apparently it's on a big bounce back, but like obviously the pandemic and the shutdowns and everything really put a damper on in-person conventions. But it was, it was, it felt like it was building. PAX felt like people were excited again, the people who, the guests who were there who were like attending and do it. It seemed like there was a lot of buzz and excitement. It seemed like it was in a path to like build back towards how Pax used to be, where it was huge, it was always this event. But also conspicuously there were not many, there were none of the like big names that I wouldn't used to seeing at Pax, right? Imagine, you guys have been to
Starting point is 00:48:44 plenty of these things, imagine the floor the first time you look out at the floor of PAX, there's like a Microsoft booth and a Sony booth and they're like huge, they like, this is this huge convention hall, right? But these booths are like, none of that shit. The only booth that had like a tall thing on it was the behemoth booth Which has been a mainstay at PAX for a long time and it's the one where they have the big behemoth chicken and the like the Castle Crashers guys and the big circular behemoth sign all of the other booths were so toned down It was weird as a group. We're getting older I don't know if we're kind of over conventions a little bit, but like, it's an interesting part of the gaming community. Speculate for me. Should they come back? Should BlizzCon come back? Are they going to come back? Like, where are we?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Wade, I'll let you take this one. We went to conventions a lot before, by we, I mean Molly and I went to conventions a lot before we did the Year Welcome Tour, which was what, like 2017? So it's been eight years or so since we've really gone to conventions and I feel like the industry has changed a lot since then. Things are just done a little bit differently now, but there was something to be said about going to a
Starting point is 00:49:53 convention that had like, I remember going and playing alien isolation, like a demo for alien isolation the first time, freaking out and you know, screaming like an idiot while everyone else was quietly just playing off the demo and I got jump scared and let out a big scream and it was funny. But walking around and seeing like the big cool displays
Starting point is 00:50:10 of things, Arc Survival Evolved had a really cool one back in the day. I remember they gave us a little stuffed poop when we went to see Arc Survival Evolved. But there was something just awesome about that. I'm not a person who gets super into collecting things or I don't look into technology and gaming stuff the way you guys do like you guys always bring a lot of stuff to table I'm
Starting point is 00:50:29 like oh I had no idea because I just don't keep up with that kind of stuff but as a creator it was awesome going I am an attention whore and getting the fan experience I really liked I like meeting fans I liked having a safe and good venue for that where it wasn't like we were just doing a fan meetup out in the middle of the woods somewhere it's like okay this is a place where they've got security there's people that you know seen a lot of middle-of-the-woods fan meetups no but it's hard like even ten years ago it was hard to like hey guys I'm gonna be at Kings Island when we have a Kings Island and it was cool but like also sometimes you just want to go to a theme park and
Starting point is 00:51:02 enjoy the theme park so it's's like, it was a different, it was an actual experience where it's like, okay, I'm here to look at games, but also like other people are here that are passionate about this and meeting fans while getting, it was a fun combination of things I enjoyed. And I wouldn't mind doing something like that again, maybe like once every year or two,
Starting point is 00:51:20 I wouldn't ever go back to doing three or four conventions a year like I was doing for a while. But I imagine on the other side of it, for someone who's just really passionate about gaming, or meeting content creators or both or whatever have you, those conventions had to have been pretty fucking awesome. Like, they were busy, but getting to go play demos early, especially the indie sections, the indie game sections
Starting point is 00:51:42 were really, really shined for me because AAA Studios, as cool as it was to see their awesome big booths, you kind of got a feel for those things because they could afford to advertise and show things off. A lot of cool indie games, I don't think anyone would have known about if it weren't for the conventions and walking through there and like some of the people who made content being like, oh wow this looks cool, I'll play this, and then they play it, someone else sees it, that's the way a lot of indie games, I don't know't know they probably still how they take off but how they took off way back then they're just a cool lot of cool things like that some of the oh god what was the D&D show that always played it like packs not critical role it was uh what the hell was it called I can picture the bald dude with glasses
Starting point is 00:52:17 but I can't think of the name of it wait fuck anyway they would do like a show there were different other panels and things. We did a panel whenever we were together and whatnot. So there were a lot of cool things and things I enjoyed and things I'd like to experience again, but I don't think I could ever do it the amount that I did it back then because it kind of got redundant. If you went to four conventions in a year, 90% of what you saw was at each convention. It was the same thing at each one.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I mean, that's what they do. They run what's called the convention circuit so that the exhibitors can reach the most amount of people, assuming that people aren't going to travel outside of their local convention, unless it's like a mega monolith convention where, you know, a million people are going to be there. What's the one that's completely gone now that was big back in the day that was hosted in California? E3?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, E3. Allen went to that one time, but that one was a little bit different because that one was- E3 was cool. The one I went to, I spent a lot of time around the Mixer Hype Zone tent. The time to be alive. Wow, Mixer. Oh, I forgot about Mixer.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Oh. I think people are starting to really, this is not my concept, but I think people are really starting to come around on like, it's nice to do things in person. I think there's a lot of social anxiety still. And there's a lot like, I don't really like being in loud crowded public places, but also there's just something about being in the same place as other people
Starting point is 00:53:37 all sharing in something that you really enjoy. If it's like a concert or if it's like a festival downtown Cincinnati, or if it's like a PAX or something like a gaming festival thing. I think people are kind of we're coming out of the funk, the post pandemic, post lockdown funk still. And people are kind of like, man, I, I kind of fucking hate people, but also I kind of want to go hang out with people. I think it's an interesting time if you're like for these conventions,
Starting point is 00:54:04 because I guess I'm optimistic. I hope that they continue to rebound. I hope people have a lot of interest, but there's no reason it has to be conventions. Maybe everyone's going to lock lock on to some other thing and that'll be where they all go hang out or who knows. But I think it's as good an excuse as any cause cause the problem with, you know, the, the COVID era stuff is you lost out on a couple generations of a lot of things, but you lost out on a couple generations of people showing their friends what it is. And once
Starting point is 00:54:31 that chain gets broken because of the people that were introduced to conventions were introduced by their friends or their family. And so it had, there had to be a first time for everybody or maybe they found it on their own, but most of the time I believe it was probably an introduction chain, but that chain got broken. So there was a few years where people weren't being introduced to the new experience. So that's a whole couple years of people that they have to catch up on being like, Oh, this is even a thing. They're probably out people out there listening that have never been to a convention and aren't even really aware of how many occur around them. In your city, there's probably a convention every week for the most random things.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I think we were in Austin one time, and we were so curious of what this table of people were there. There was one guy and like 20 women, and they all had lanyards, and they were clearly there for a convention, and we were like, why? What business is this
Starting point is 00:55:21 where there's one guy and 20 women, right? And it seemed like he was the guy in charge because they were all trying to talk to him. what business is this where there's one guy and 20 women, right? And it seemed like he was the guy in charge because they were all trying to talk to him. And then we realized there was a wedding dress convention and it was just, it was very peculiar. There was a wedding dress convention. I didn't even know that was a thing, but it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Look up conventions in your nearby area. It's not all about gaming, but there's tons of conventions. I get married once a year just to wear the new dress. You know, if I had it to do all over again or even moving forward, if I end up transitioning away from gaming, I think I would just, I would do tabletop. It would be like D&D role play type stuff. Like what critical role does,
Starting point is 00:55:57 if I could do something like that, like three or four times a week and just have an awesome in-person setup, I think that would be like the end game for me. Like that's what I really enjoy in Thrive In is like role-play stuff. Like when I did GTA role-play, I enjoyed that quite a bit. But even that was like somewhat constrained
Starting point is 00:56:13 with what you can do. I don't know, I seem to remember Demon Elmo getting the posse together and then riding around doing murderous explosion things. Seemed pretty unlimited from my perspective. Wade role-played Demon Elmo on the server. I was briefly on that server also role-playing and- Yeah, I drove you around. You were trying to join like the legal team or something.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It was a whole experience. Yeah, I was trying to be a lawyer in- Well, my main dude was Norm El-Guy, Norm. But Elmo was like my I want to be chaotic. I forgot about playing Elmo. The good old days of GTA RIP. was like my, I wanna be chaotic. I forgot about playing Elmo. The good old days of GTA RIP. Mark's right, conventions, check them out. There's probably one about a thing that you care about, probably closer than you think.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Role playing conventions are a thing. There are a lot of tabletop conventions, yeah. Tabletop, people love getting together and doing tabletop stuff. I'm sure people look into it. There's a lot of stores. What are the little stores called where you buy like they sell like the warhammer figurines and table.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Oh sure. Yeah. Like, like stores that also have like game session nights and stuff. Yeah. They also have like game session nights or two, even if it's not like a D and D it's like board game nights and stuff like that. A lot of places have those too. Anyway, kind of got off topic there, but yeah, conventions great gaming great, but I want to empty all day every day. Well you could. I mean yeah I could, but I want D&D. All day, every day. Well, you could. Yeah, I could, but like, I don't know, local-
Starting point is 00:57:28 A lot of people I play with are all over the fucking place. Do you want us to officially kick you off this show so you can spend more time doing that? Or... No, please! That would be terrible! No, I enjoy my time here. If you say so. I don't- I don't- Everyone I play with is like, the world. There's I don't have a local group
Starting point is 00:57:47 I would play with pay for their moves buy them houses They've got like families and stupid shit like that to stop them I don't ever their families have their families killed then they would need you or you create a natural disaster in their area that sweeps away everything they have and natural disaster in their area that sweeps away everything they have and their families. And then only the people that you want to play and you have the natural disaster funnel them. Like if it's tornadoes, it's pushing them towards your place. Am I like a real life caster? I throw fireball at Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Just donate to the Democratic National Committee. Get in on their weather control apparatus and then craft a series of weather events and natural disasters to funnel everyone that you care about to Cincinnati and kill everyone you don't care about. Boom! Instead of conjugal visits, I'll have tabletop visits. It's like, ah, guys, let's get a 20-minute session in. Hey, whatever makes you happy, man. Whatever makes you happy. All right, we're wrapping it.
Starting point is 00:58:44 That was good gaming news, everybody. Hey, whatever you whatever make you happy man. We're making happy. All right, we're wrapping it That was good gaming news everybody. Thank you for participating and giving everyone an update on what news is The score the score yeah points was there a lot of points in that there was a decent number of points I'll start with Wade's. Uhhhh... Don't sound so disappointed! I'll start with Wade's. Well, he had to circle back to all the ear stuff, so he's probably really disappointed in general right now. Well, I'm not sure what the first point is here, Wade.
Starting point is 00:59:18 It's, I wrote, submit post-mortem. Ah! For your body, your body. Oh, yeah, yeah. They can have me when I'm dead. You have a conditional point I'm not sure how to work that is for terms and conditions Apply to that point. So we'll see is it the same ones I applied so direct to be dead to get that point Maybe maybe I have no idea Yeah a posthumous point down the road one for your teeth one for your infection one for big naturals one for broken to blitzcon
Starting point is 00:59:44 One for fan meetups in the middle of the woods, one for roleplay dreams. So only a few of those are criminal. I did not break into Blizzcon. I was in Blizzcon and I broke into an Overwatch competition. You evaded security, which is probably completely allowed and fine. I just went with the crowd of two and ignored the long life the crowd of two so they say two is a crowd I mean I showed my badge they let me in who's really at fault here the deceiver or the fool how many times did you fool them
Starting point is 01:00:16 only had to show the fake but that would not even think oh he admits it he had a fake badge no just I just showed the back of it. We were with the other group. Uh-huh. Sounds like fraud to me. So, Bob, you got half a point for mac and cheese, parentheses, making cheese. I don't remember what it was related to, but I know that's the joke. The stock market.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Craft, craft is up 30%, it's mac and cheese. All right, you're immune to the sun, meaningless sacrifice is what you called your sacrifice to science, still sees pediatrician That's for Wade, but you made the joke one for ear twin graphical jumps in consoles co carnage situation for Minds Eye layoffs Convention talk and then a point for desiring to be around people
Starting point is 01:01:02 So how much did I win by wait?, well we gotta spin wheels don't we? Wade, I'll give you an option on the conditional point. I'll allow you to spend that point whenever you want. I'm not gonna tell you what the score is, but the next time that you're a participant and I'm the judge, anytime that I'm... you have won the conditional point. I can't wait for the subreddit to remind me in three years that I still have that point that I've forgotten about
Starting point is 01:01:27 You all know what to do But you have to choose now before any wheels are spin wait Yeah Wasn't the subreddit talking something about if Wade's house ever flooded there was a win that you had to forfeit that went to me Or something and they were like hey, it was basement flooded if my basement flooded I had to forfeit a win something like that yeah let's say that yeah I don't die we'll hold on to that we'll put that one off too for now okay we're putting off the point and we're putting off the house flooding how many bonus
Starting point is 01:01:56 points will there be oh there'll be three in there for me well there will be three it looks like that's not a strong start for Bob. This is serendipitous because it is Literally by the slimmest margins Possible for Wade to have the win here. I choose to use my point If he to use the point it would have but Shit, it doesn't guarantee anything. All right Let's add on It doesn't guarantee anything. All right
Starting point is 01:02:24 Let's add on Most unrelated tabs open and you have to you have to share your screen and we count how many tabs you have that aren't Related to what we're talking about. I just closed all mine. So I have zero tabs. Yeah, wait, no, no tabs closing No tabs closing. I already did I did before we did this thing cuz I always maximize it so I can see the wheel All right well It may if it doesn't land on you this time, you'll have to- You can press Ctrl-Shift-T to open old tabs and you have to press that until it slowly reveals your tabs. Alright, come on Scottish accent.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Come on, I've been practicing. Ah, got biggest laugh. Was it laughing at Bob's joke that we didn't laugh at originally? Well, Bob made quite a few good jokes. I really laughed at the pediatrician one. I laughed at pretty hard at that one. As you guys are funny, but I think that one might go to Bob. Yes! I don't remember anything, so I believe you.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Man, that ear infection gone all the way into his brain. Let's roll anyway to see what could happen. We could always get something else. Eugh. Yeah. Oh. Who lost the most points? Mark? Neither of you lost points. Oh, I did. You're right.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I lost points. You literally lost the points, so you would get that one. I mean, if you want to re-spin that one, that's fine, but you did lose the most points. Yeah. Look, it won't matter anyway, unless this next one's a whopper of a different one and the next one is Bob wins Also bark I think I got that too. Yeah Man I'm gonna get third place. Hey, man. I got a one on this one. Hey, not bad Not bad me good performance here. All right, we're going to close it up with 10 and a half points. Bob takes the episode. He did bring the most topics of conversation to the
Starting point is 01:04:10 floor. So I think that makes sense. Wade, it's actually good that you didn't spend your conditional point, because the wheels were not in your favor anyway. Damn right, Bob, what's your winner's excuse? I didn't mean to. I didn't know what I was doing. I was just following Mark's instructions. If you're gonna be mad at anyone, I think you should be bad at Mark about what happened today. That's my excuse. That's good. Wade, what's your loser's excuse? You can see by the charts I was moving up, up until the point where I opened my mouth and everything went downhill. But I think now's the time to buy your weight stock. Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I don't think Jim Kramer rolls his sleeves up that far, but maybe. I don't have longer sleeves. Oh, you're rolling your sleeves up. I can't roll up. Weren't the Jim Kramer jokes that we were doing before we hit record for this? So that the context for that is outside of this episode. We were just talking and that was what we were talking about.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I deserve to be at the bottom. Oh man, yeah, it has not been Wade's episode. That is really funny. I don't understand, the numbers on the wall. Look at the numbers. Was that before we started recording? What a callback. Listeners, you're not missing anything.
Starting point is 01:05:38 All of you out there, we talked about Jim Kramer, the guy from Mad Money, before this episode, and Wade can't remember what happened when. So he's been referencing that the entire time. Just so you know. Do do do do do do do. Alright, well thank you guys. That was it. Alright, there he goes.
Starting point is 01:05:58 That was an entertaining episode. Bob goes from not even being here at the beginning of the episode to taking it all and I think that is hey and Wade left And wait now Wade's gone. It ends as it began Thank you Bob who is also known as my skirm on YouTube and twitch Wade Thank you Lord minion 777 or minion 777 on twitch and YouTube. I am Markiplier This has been distractible merch coming very soon sooner than you think. I have Markiplier, this has been Distractible. Merch coming very soon, sooner than you think. Have a good day. Podcast out.

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