Distractible - Hard or Soft?

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:05 Hard or soft Now sit back And prepare to be distracted And enjoy the show Hello and welcome back to another episode Of your podcast's favorite uncle That's right, this is distractible I'm your
Starting point is 00:02:23 That's a little early Just started with it All right, I'm your host Because I won the last one Because I was so much funnier than Mark that now he can't handle it and he's being a little baby about everything. Competitors for today, just like always are Mark and Wade. Mark is the one who's going, you can't prove that to the listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That was Wade. That was all Wade. Listeners, believe what you will, but it was Mark. They are highly influenced, easily influenced to someone, sir. Am I right? Only I'm allowed to be mean to the listeners. Okay. If there's one thing I've learned so far from this is that I am Wade.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You just learned that? Yeah. Pretty impressive. Wow. I'm going around saying, my name is Markiplier for the last 10 years. Really awkward. He explains why people treat you so weird. Anyway, if you've never seen this show before, we just revised the Constitution, which we have
Starting point is 00:03:20 one of. It's not weird. And in the first episode, we already didn't know if we revised it right or not. No, no. Come on. You didn't. We did. We have a plethora of new rules.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And they're going to be fine. That's why we have Congress in the first place. Our Congress anyway. I don't remember making Congress. We made Congress. Oh. Trust us, bro. Do you ever trust anyone that said, trust me, bro?
Starting point is 00:03:46 I didn't say bro. That's character assassination. Well, now you're dead. So I guess I get the right history for you. He's assassinating my character. All right. Mark, you get a dead point. Do I get like an assassin point?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Wade, you get an assassin point. Woo-hoo. Welcome back to another episode. I have... I'm going to call it a sequel. It's not really a sequel, but I have a sequel episode here today that I'm really excited about.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And I think it's going to be a fun time. Before we get into that, how are you guys doing? You know small talks? I do. I'll go second. All right, wait, on the spot. What do you got?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Well, well, well. Welcome back, everyone. I have been playing a lot of the Diablo for recent expansion, Lord of Hatred. And I think I told you all... I think I told you all last week. It's one of the better Diablo stories. we've ever gotten i just i thought it was really well told i thought we got a lot of lore a lot of backst
Starting point is 00:04:36 in a lot of interesting stuff and i was really engrossed in it and really been enjoying it i even went back and installed diablo too because i was like man i'm just feeling that diablo it's i've been i've been real diablo otherwise weather's been good a couple weeks ago i went out and played basketball with my nephew couldn't last monday but my left knee has been like a little off i was like man i think i like strained at mcc or something or one of those one of those three letter things that's in your knee and then yesterday my nephew was like hey you don't play basketball again i was like man I just started walking normally again. Yes, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Now I'm not walking normally again today. Go figure. Apparently you need more than two or three weeks at our age to heal, which is very sad. I'm walking around like a pirate, but I had fun and the weather's been beautiful. It was a little hot yesterday, but otherwise, God, it's been so nice. I can't breathe. My allergies are killing me, but like, I like sunlight. I might be a plant.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I didn't know it, but I think I might be a plant. I think I might survive on photosynthesis. I think Wade's an industry plant. I could be. Oh shit. Bob, you want a GoPro? Very much. Way more than Mark does. Can I please be an industry plant? Can I please? I'll find a way. I've been growing some gopros in my garden, Bob. I'll have to harvest one and send it your way.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Perfect. Man, if their marketing department had any brains. No way, I can't insult them. God, I can't do that way. If their marketing department could get their head out of their ass long enough to see what's, good for him. No, no, no, no, no, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. Well, it sounds like you're going to need a new knee any day now, Wade, but that's, other than that, that's, you know, that's good.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So, tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow, as of the episode coming out, not when we're recording it, Molly and I will have been married for eight years, which so we're celebrating that. So we had the podcast anniversary, the Us anniversary. So May is a busy month, but five years podcast. eight years of marriage and more years than that dating. I can't do the math, but whenever 2012 was. At least eight years of dating. At least eight years of dating.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Greater than or equal to. As a good husband and partner, I know those numbers. I'm just keeping them to myself. Yeah, that's private information. Yeah. Mark, do some small talk while I calculate those numbers. All right. So my small talk is once again related to the Cannes Film Festival
Starting point is 00:06:59 because I have a story from there that I didn't tell, was saving it because I was very tired and and whatnot but the experience of getting there is fine you know and get there and it's all good and whatever but uh I arrive and they've arranged a driver right and so I've I've been through this very very famous I've experiences before obviously we all have right where they have your name on the big iPad and they're like one of those triple length limos where it's just you in it but it's like nine rows of seats exactly I mean that's what I was used to and I'm sure that's what you you have had in your experience. And of course, in my mind...
Starting point is 00:07:34 Call it the ego holler. The ego holler? Yeah, that's good. That's good. The ego is down. The ego is down. Sorry. Ego has landed. I get changed. Don't laugh at him. Don't laugh at it. Bligh, wait, wait for me. Wait for me. The giggle bus. Please. I need to get on.
Starting point is 00:07:55 All right. So I get down there in the guys there. His name is Nicholas, and he's very nice. And he's part of a company called Taxi Moto. And I'm like, okay. this is great all right awesome so he leads me out over to the parking garage I'm like cool I'm used to this treatment star treatment I get there and we we go past all the cars that are parked there and we keep walking and we're now fully past all the cars and look at it oh interesting we turn a corner and we go around and we go through this like a little turn style like this and then I keep I think oh it must be in the next parking garage and it's like nope we come up to a motorcycle. I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:08:31 Taxi-moto. Taxi-moto-cycle. But it was fine. It was actually lovely. I make it sound like awful because I used to ride in L.A. I did motorcycle a little bit until I had a close call. So it's not like I was nervous or anything, but it's just
Starting point is 00:08:47 it's one of those things where it's like with the going to Iceland and the Blue Lagoon's like the first thing there. It's like, oh, I wasn't, wasn't prepared for this. I was expecting to sleep in like a cab or something on the way over there. And it's like, I didn't want to fall asleep. leap on the back of a motorcycle. Why not?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Oh, you know, but it was, it was really nice, actually. He had his own, he had a jacket for me, had gloves for me, a hat, he made me put on a hairnet just in case for all my lace,
Starting point is 00:09:10 and then I put on the helmet. Yeah, yeah, we all got her. We all have lace, yeah. It's kind of a thing for us. I don't know, man. Where would they cling to on me? Weird lice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Bice. Yeah. Anyway, so it was really nice because, number one, I was very attentive because obviously you're on a motorcycle and you know Oh, I thought you meant you were like giving him a massage Like you were attending him while he drove you around
Starting point is 00:09:35 Yeah, well he's very stressed out I want him to be relaxed on this I was an attentive back But it's like you know you got to kind of hold on Because you got the handle bars there and it was nice It was like it was a little thing with that armrests and it had like hand grips And all kinds of things and I got to see all of cans When otherwise I would have literally fallen asleep in a taxi
Starting point is 00:09:54 I was that tired and it was very pleasant So I recommend anybody who wants to, and also on the way back to the airport, this guy saved me like 30 minutes in traffic because, I mean, he was lanesplating the whole time. But I also did that. If anyone was like a first time riding a motorcycle, they might have had, you know, might have been a little scary for them. But it's like, it's totally fine. Because it would be terrifying for a normal person. Are you kidding me? If they hadn't done it before, I could see that.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But it's like also, it helped a lot. He knew what he was doing. And he was like, I told them that I. used to ride in LA so that's probably maybe while he was more comfortable with doing that because he tried to make sure but it was it was he got me to that airport and it was like bumper to bumper traffic the entire way over there so it was it was really uh it really helped out a lot I might have missed my flight can you imagine the view if you had a GoPro to record your drive over there on that motorcycle that's what I was thinking too I was gonna oh I forgot I was gonna bring that
Starting point is 00:10:49 up because I was like oh my god this would be so perfect for this I kept asking because I'm like I'm going to these places that I can film some cool things and god I tried to get my phone out and I was just like sure the wind went like this a little bit I'm like I'm not gonna do that just not gonna put that right back right back in my pants man it would have been so pretty because it was like
Starting point is 00:11:09 beautiful blue waters all these boats like seaside road they were going along oh it was gorgeous it would have been perfect GoPro please Mark will go back to Khan for four hours he'll fly he'll get out he'll run all he'll do
Starting point is 00:11:27 he's got out of the airport, ride around on a motorcycle for an hour and a half, filming stuff, straight back into a plane, but he'll do anything, I presume. I know this is the sort of thing that's planned by people who, like, they know who you are, and so it's like thought, I just think it would be fucking hilarious if, not that anyone does this, but if I, if someone was like, oh, Bob, you should go to this thing, and they booked me, you know, to go to a thing, and I get to the airport, and if you can't tell on camera, I'm fucking huge. I'm really tall. I'm 6'4, but I'm also like just a huge dude.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And I did ride, I had a motorcycle in college, and I'm familiar. I would be totally cool on a motorcycle. But like, I just show up and the guy with the motorcycle is like, oh, yeah, hot, yeah. Um, hmm, I don't know what the weight limit is for my motorcycle. Interesting. You're just, you're like a perfectly adequately average height, normal size person. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Host. Thank you. I'm sure that no one is going to book me a motorcycle taxi. If it's something where it's like, I'm on, you know, they want me at this event for a thing. But it just would be hilarious. I show up and the guy's just like, all right, I'm on the back, I guess. He just starts screaming, just, it's like a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I get, I climb up on the motorcycle first. It just goes, kirk. Oh, oh, no. I feel like people in Europe are smaller than us. Bob. I feel like like the average height is a little bit smaller in Europe. Way smaller than me. You might look really tall over there, but there are tall Europeans. I don't think there are very many Europeans that are the size around than I am. Having been there several times, I could tell you, I do feel like I stick out.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I can't remember how tall people were, but I feel like, man, when we were up on that stage in Europe, everyone not on the stage looks smaller than us. Yeah, they're sitting down, so. Yeah, and they were lower. Some of those stages were the same line as the audience, I think. And some of the places we did shows in Europe were funny. It was fine, but it was like we showed up and they're like, yeah, yeah, this is the stage. It's a big room and there's chairs on this side and you guys go on this side.
Starting point is 00:13:41 We've never used it for a stage before, but it's absolutely a stage for you right now. Whatever, man. I remember one of those like in the U.S. I don't remember one of those in Europe. Then again, I've got a terrible memory. There was a stage, but wasn't it in Oslo where it was literally like in the corner of a much larger room? They just set up a stage in some chairs and were like, You guys do your little show over there.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Might have been in Sweden. It was one of those. Anyway, that's pretty fun. That's crazy, though. I wonder how common that is. Because I know, like, zipping around on motorbikes or, you know, like scooters or whatever, is more common, especially in cities in Europe, maybe. But I still feel like a lot of people would show up and be like,
Starting point is 00:14:17 I'm not fucking riding a motorcycle. Like, what the hell? I'd be one of them. I've never been on one, and I don't know that I don't have the balls for it. If you've never done it before, I get why that would be scary. Yeah, because even if you're on the back, I mean, probably they're used to people not like helping leaning in the right direction or something, you know, or completely opposite. They're like trying to go this way. Everyone tries to sit upright as the bike leads over.
Starting point is 00:14:42 They're just like, no, no. I've just seen too many of like the fail army type videos where there's assholes that like open their car doors and shit the motorcycles. Like I don't know, I'd be so scared of like someone doing that. I mean, it's not going to happen on the highway. But yeah, I totally get on the cities. I don't know, man. Some people are crazy. Everyone's crazy everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Lane splitting is a funny thing. For those who don't know, lane splitting is when motorcycles drive down between lanes of cars because they can fit because they're tiny. Because I kind of come down on both sides of it because as a person who's ridden a motorcycle, I'm like, yeah, why would I not do that? If it's legal, which it is in a lot of places, some places it's not. And if you do it where it's illegal, then you should get a ticket probably. But if it's legal like it is in California, why would I not do that? That's very convenient. But as a person who drives a car, 99% of my life, I'm like, why the fuck would you do that?
Starting point is 00:15:31 You're going to get yourself killed, you crazy-ass motorcycle douchebags? I don't know. I come down on both sides. You said you lane split when you roadmark? Well, I mean, I did for a while, and then I had a close call doing lane spleen. I was like, you know, I don't know if I ever need this really. I don't know if this is for me. Like a nice weather day, sometimes people like put their arms out, stretch their arms, like feel the wind and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'd be like, I want to get clotheslined or take off someone's arm. I will say one of the things about lane splitting is you're not supposed to go 120 down the highway between cars that are doing like 75. You're supposed to go slightly faster than the flow of traffic. So dudes on sport bikes who lane split at a thousand miles an hour. That's still uncool even if it's legal wherever they're doing that. But safely lane splitting is a thing. You could do that. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:16:19 This guy though. This was like doing wheels. No, he was. Yeah, well, I imagine the professional taxi. service was doing wheelies and tricks and shit. Mark's head is like one foot off the ground the whole way. I was actually his, his brace against the ground,
Starting point is 00:16:33 he was using my head as like, you know, make sure he didn't flip all the way back. So he duct tape the wheel to the back of your helmet just in case. Yeah, he actually put like that paper on matchbox. So I sparked on the way out. It was really cool, actually,
Starting point is 00:16:46 from what I could see. If my GoPro was there, if I had a GoPro. If you had a GoPro, imagine. We could have seen so many cool shots. I could have. Unless there's more small talk.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Should we get to the game? Game, game. This is a spiritual successor to a game that we played previously called big or small, where we talked about, if we would rather have big or small versions of things. This one is hard or soft. Okay. All right. Makes more sense than it sounds like it does, because I got to be honest,
Starting point is 00:17:25 I read this in my notes and was like, it's a fucking weird idea. That's not a thing. It'll be fine. It's good. If you guys think of anything that you would like to debate, this is kind of an open debate one. It's not really like a game back and forth as much as I just want to talk about all these different things. The first one I have here might be contentious, but ignore your personal preference for this specific thing. I just want to talk about if you would prefer hard or soft tacos.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Maybe it's a taco filled with food that you really, really like. Maybe it's like a hamburger taco. It doesn't have to be an away it has mixed feelings about tacos. That's fine. But just the harder softness of it. Harder soft tacos. I'm going to stand on a soapbox here for my wife and say she likes crunchy tacos, therefore hard tacos.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Soft. And I'll tell you why if I'm allowed. No. I'll allow it. All right. Okay. It's because there's a good idea, and then there's the execution of the idea. And a hard taco is a good idea conceptually.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It photographs well. It looks appetizing. The second you have to actually encounter that, you realize the fundamental flaw in the human design. Our mouths are not vertical. And then you have to encounter the other fundamental flaw of the structural design of the thing, that if as soon as you bite, the cracks which propagate through a hard, shell taco go almost entirely propagate down the bottom of it so that the entire ass of the taco falls out the first bite or it cracks in half that way and the same effect is there it has to
Starting point is 00:19:06 be when a lot of restaurants put the wet delicious but wet like heavy meat ingredients or other stuff in the bottom completely ruining the structural integrity of the crunchy taco shell yeah 100% And it's just like it needs to be supplemented with like a cardboard box or something like that to just aid in the whole process. And it just makes it difficult. And when I'm eating, I can't be bothered with all of that as I'm whipping through traffic eating my tacos. Can I just say this question was a trap? Because I know the actual factual correct answer. But you point out a good thing, Mark.
Starting point is 00:19:47 You're right. You know what? I would generally go for soft tacos. You know it's one of my favorite crunchy tacos? The Doritos Locos crunchy tacos. You know why? Because it comes with its own cardboard sheath. So when you're eating it, you stick out just enough.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You take a bite and it doesn't matter that it fucking disintegrates into a million piece. It's in a little thingy. It's contained. It's fine. It's great. But the correct answer is, I forget what they're called exactly. I think there's a thing I've seen at restaurants that are not. Taco Bell, but Taco Bell has these as well.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It's a crunchy taco shell with a soft taco shell glued to the outside with cheese. I don't know. Is that what they call a gordita crunch? Is that what that? Because you get all the good stuff about a crunchy taco. It's crunchy. It's delightful. It's like eating, really, it's like eating a nacho sandwich, which we all know I like nachos. But it's glued together.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It's like safety glass. when you bite it and the crunchy taco shell disintegrates into dust, it's fine because there's a soft taco shell there to save everything. Look, if you want a soft taco, we have something called a sandwich or a bun that already exists. Here's a quote from John A. Shed that I think will ring true. A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for. A crunchy taco may be a mess waiting to happen, but it's an adventure worth embarking because it is the journey that,
Starting point is 00:21:16 matters more than the destination. And with food, they both pretty much matter a lot. But that crunchy exploration, that's the idea, the epitome of taco. Whereas, listen, me, as a non-taco guy, give me that bun all day. But you think taco, you think crunch. I know, I think soft. Wrong. I think smush.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You know, smush. Get a hamburger bun in fold a hot dog, a hot dog a taco. Oh, God, where are we going? I think I need to remind people of the quote from I.B. Salin, who was on board the Titanic when its crunchy shell was fractured by that mouth of an iceberg and all of its contents came spilling out. A gordita crunch is just trying to be a soft taco to appease to those weirdos and freaks of nature that enjoy a crunchy taco. Look, I appreciate the Doritos Locos. If I have to endure the indignity of a hard shell taco, I will approach one with my mouth and bring it near me, but I will not say I imbibed. Bring it near me.
Starting point is 00:22:26 What the hell of kind of weird Victorian taco experience are you having? I have experienced hard shell tacos, but I did not imbibe. Okay, so the Titanic was crunchy and sank, but if I throw bread into the water, you know what happens? birds eat it and it's bad for them. So if I put a wet thing in the water, what's going to happen? We're going to kill ocean life. Put a pin in this because we're going to get around to boats. Don't even worry about that.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Oh man, I really love soft boats. That one I had a strong opinion about this next one. I can't decide. I need you to help me. Oh, we're here. Hard or soft ice cream. I don't mean like fucking ice cubes with flavor in them. I mean soft serve ice cream or,
Starting point is 00:23:10 like UDF graders, scooped hard ice cream out of the cooler, which one? I've worked there for a while, so I will defer and let Mark go first before I destroy his incorrect opinion. Because I don't know if I can pick, and I want someone to tell me what to think. So we're talking like from a machine where you pull the lever and it goes, Yeah, like soft serve, like, and you make the little turd cone and then or you make like a milk, you know, whatever. Thank you for bringing up my main point, the turd cone.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You can't make the glorious shape. Ignore everything I said about the taco round. It's all about appearances, about presentation. You have to have the picturesque shape of the triangle going down, cone, if you will. And then the cone coming up. It's symmetry in nature. If it has the two, you can't get two. I don't care about Neapolitan.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It doesn't exist. That's basically, it's a freak of nature. It's a random chance. But having the two swirl of color spiraling down so elegantly reminisces me. That's how you use a word, reminisces me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of the days of Eunisonous with its spirals, and I think it's important for our culture.
Starting point is 00:24:30 What is your answer then? It was like Billy Madison, and wherever you said made me feel stupider by the end. Drift into the finish line of somewhere. I could just coast every end out of gas halfway through. And I was like, oh, God. I was like, oh, he's going for real ice cream. He didn't mention real ice cream once.
Starting point is 00:24:49 What does he feel? That brought up an experience that maybe is affecting my opinion here. Do you know what is one of the most disappointing things I've experienced about ice cream previously? What's that? I went to a, I think it was a Derek way. We went to like, we were getting like a summer treat, right? And I, as a kid, I was always hardcore. I would either get chocolate or vanilla.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But there was a point where I was like, why would I not just get twist? Both is the best because then you get some. And I went, we went to this place where we're like, let's get ice cream. And I got a twist cone, which is supposed to be that half and half chocolate vanilla. They fucking gave me an ice cream cone with one turd of vanilla and one turd of chocolate on top of it. It was soft serve. They just like didn't, like the machine was broken or something. They gave that to me.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And I was like, I don't know, ice cream could make me feel rage. Like, what the fuck is that? This isn't a twist cone at all. I've never been more sad about ice cream specifically. Probably been more sad about other stuff. You got highs, you got lows, but you only felt so sad because you could feel so happy from the soft. Because I knew what was possible. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Wade? So as someone who worked in ice cream for, well, I don't know if I, whatever his position was, I don't know. Hey, see, you deferred to me. I should, you, did I get to pick? I did, and I still don't know what position you have, so I'm going to give mine. I worked at United Dairy Farmer's for a couple of years in ice cream, and I can tell you the soft serve machine was a giant pain in the ass. It was a huge machine that sat, took up a huge amount of space, and we had two little, like, areas where we'd pour in these little half gallons, right? You had our vanilla, our chocolate, or we'd have seasonal, like peach or something, so we'd have
Starting point is 00:26:32 different ones. We have one side. We get a half gallon of vanilla soft serve liquid. You pour it in the top. Something fucking happens and it becomes vanilla soft serve. You get your chocolate. You pour it in the other side. Some weird magic happens and it becomes chocolate. Then you have a third nozzle, which is your twist where the two combined and that's how you get your twist. So yeah, if that's broken, I don't know how you get a twist other than a turn of vanilla and a turn of chocolate because that's not how you can't just wouldn't make a solid cone. I don't care. I don't care. why. I care that that happened to me and it was tragic. I don't disagree with you. So that's how your soft serve stuff works. Then you go to clean the machine. It's not pleasant. Like the vanilla side's
Starting point is 00:27:14 fine, but the chocolate side, every time you clean it, you have to rinse it with like water. We'd clean it every day. We cleaned the soft serve machine every day. And watching just like the chunks of chocolate that weren't fully liquid that would stick to the sides and look like splatter in the top, it made soft serve really unappealing. to me. Whereas with, you know, normal ice cream or hard ice cream, whatever you want to call it, you always know what you're going to get. I mean, if someone leaves it out, it doesn't do a good job or covers it properly, you can get like freezer burn and then it's bad, but you can scrape off freezer burn to get to the good part. If you eat ice cream like a normal person and you
Starting point is 00:27:50 take care of it, it's consistent, it's better. There's a lot more options for flavor. The one thing I guess you could say about soft serve is you can make like the, like the blizzards from Dairy Queen and stuff where it's a lot easier to mix in like, top. toppings and make stuff like that. UDF had like 200 ice cream flavors, and we only ever had it most, maybe four soft serve flavors, two at a time, or three, if you count the twist as its own flavor. Ice cream has infinitely more possibilities, it's more consistent, hard ice cream, if that's what we're calling it, superior by 9,000 miles. I'm not saying soft serve isn't good. There isn't a day where I crave soft serve, sure, but it doesn't mean it's higher quality or better.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Oh, there's no right answers here, but Wade was right. I feel slats. and kissed at the same time. Thank you. Well, I didn't insult you. I know, but I still felt like that for some reason. Okay. Well, you're welcome. All right. Let onward deeper into the rabbit hole. Keyboards. We all have hard keyboards, I think, in front of us right now, because we're all at computers. But we all also use soft keyboards every day of our lives on our phone or our tablet or on the touchscreen thing at the store that you have to use or what have you. And I think it's hard to argue that the user experience of a software keyboard is better in any way than the user experience of a normal hard keyboard. But would you really carry around a hard keyboard with you every place
Starting point is 00:29:18 you went in order to use it for anything you might need to use it for? Isn't there a reason that BlackBerry's died? I don't know. What are you guys think? Hard keyboard, soft keyboard. That's his turn to go first. Hard keyboard. My favorite phone I ever had was a phone you would hold up and you could slide the back down and there was a little keyboard
Starting point is 00:29:37 you could type on a hard keyboard and man, my things didn't auto correct to something stupid. Whenever I tried to hit space, it didn't hit enter all the fucking time or period. I could reach all the letters perfectly. I loved that phone so much
Starting point is 00:29:52 and it only died because of like Apple conspiracy where they killed the creators of the real keyboard, probably and have them locked in a basement those other survivors and they've destroyed all the engineers of small hard keyboards i'm wearing my tinfoil hat and i know that that's what happened because hard keyboard phones were the epitome of life and hard keyboard much better than soft ever could be you know there's a company that makes a thing where you could just get like magnets to your phone
Starting point is 00:30:17 and you have basically exactly what you're talking about oh man you're taking my points man he's robbing my points right from my point cradle oh that's fine it helps me i'll take it mark you can have a Robbed, a robbed point point. Sorry, bud. Oh, yeah, I was literally looking up the, the clicks keyboard thing. Is that what is called the clicks? Yeah, it's called clicks or something. You know, back in my day, you didn't have to have greedy accessories that just came with the keyboard. I think, however, there's a problem with the clicks thing.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And I don't know how they've overlooked it, but they did. It's because they just put it at the bottom where it could make the phone longer. I didn't have any of these phones, but you know, in the back of the. They were like, shaw, you turn them, you flip them, you rotate them, you, wow, the keyboard coming out was like part of the thing. It's like, why didn't they just make a landscape? They can sell a portrait version of why didn't they make a landscape version that could go on sideways so you could have a big, because this is hard enough on a small keyboard on a digital one.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's even harder on a physical one where your fat thumb can actually press the other ones instead of having the progressively getting worse, intelligent features that, you know, secretly make the buttons different size based on. what it thinks you're going to get and it's wrong all the time now. But, you know, I'm just like, it shows that there is a need, but it shows also that the people design the products sometimes still don't fully reconcile with what might actually be useful, in my opinion. Yeah, I will say, I did have a couple phones that had physical keyboards, and the vertical ones, all misery. I have big hands. I have big thumbs. I've never used a vertical keyboard that
Starting point is 00:31:57 wasn't just pure agony to try and deal with, but the horizontal ones, oh man, I had the first Android phone that ever launched. I had the T-Mobile G-1 back in the day, and it had a screen that like, it had like a fancy double hinge in the screen. It didn't just slide. It like shoo and oh, God, did that thing have the best physical keyboard. It was so good. It had character. It had a number row. It had character keys. Fucking. I did appreciate that. But I just feel like I do appreciate software keyboards that they exist and that you can have that as a solution. I don't know if I'm going to come down hard on a side of this or not.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But nobody does a good job of implementing them, I think is the biggest problem that both kinds of keyboards face, right? I had a singular plan. I think I had like one of my first flip phones. The keyboard was just the number pad, right? It was just like you had to press two, three times to get to the letter C or whatever. whatever it was. Bro, T9 texting was the shit.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I missed T9. Oh, man. I remember the top part of my phone broke off, so I no longer had a screen. But for whatever reason, I could still text and like, like, I could call people and talk to them,
Starting point is 00:33:09 but I couldn't hear. So I would text people and be like, I really hope these are the correct letters I am sending. But it was one-way calls for like two or three weeks. God damn, that's hilarious. Every time Wade calls, you pick up and he's just like mid-sentence,
Starting point is 00:33:26 It's like, I'm coming home soon. I'm leaving, I'm coming, I'll be there in 25 minutes. You're like, I can, okay, fuck, God, geez, just yell the same sentence for a minute straight. Just repeating, I repeat the message three times to make sure it goes through. I mean, it definitely should stay dead, but T9 texting was a good solution in a world where you were trying to type on a keyboard that had 12 total buttons.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I think that might be part of the reason why all these like shortcuts for words were invented because it's like any long message you had to type out was like oh god why's my name gonna be smitty warb and man jensen uh going over to schmitty warben men jensen by the time i text that's three hours have gone by smitty warber yager man jensen oh even longer yager anyway we're old keyboards are funny blackberries should stay where they ended up because blackberry keyboards were always awful. You know, is there anybody at Blackberry right now that's like, oh, physical keyboards are coming.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Guys, fire up the machines. Get the belts moving. Jim's skeleton gets shaking. Like, Jim, wake up. We're back at it. I'm sure they've drifted along as a company because I think they have, but it's like, this would be their time to be like, all that money we've been saving up for this one moment and definitely haven't been spending on CEO bonuses or something like that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It's time. is like, go! The Blackberry fully touchscreen phone that they launched, this is something just no one will give it any shits about, but I had a friend who had that, and I remember how sad it was, because he was really excited, right? It was in the era when software keyboards were starting to become a thing,
Starting point is 00:35:06 and, like, the iPhone existed, and it was in the era of the Moto, the Moto, whatever, the first modos of Android phones. I had a ringtone. It said, hello, Motto. There was like a little beat to it. It was like, Oh, it's a Blackberry, but it's modern.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It's got, has this screen that moves and all. And then, like, after owning it for a brief time, he was like, wow, Blackberry fucking sucks. Like, the only thing about Blackberry is that it's the form factor of a Blackberry. A Blackberry in the shape of every other cell phone on the market is just a terrible cell phone. They were like the premier phone for a while. Like, if you had a Blackberry, you were real fancy. Well, yeah, because of, because business. Because business people needed to send emails and they revolution.
Starting point is 00:35:50 how you could send emails over cellular networks and blah blah blah According to all the clips of the movie about Blackberry that I've seen on YouTube shorts and TikTok They were revolutionary in what they were doing Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the thing I've seen that guy from it's always sunny in Philadelphia Screaming at his employees about something something client side something Oh, that is that guy oh that's I thought he looked familiar the angry boss guy from the blackberry movie is is Dennis from his sonny. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He's such a good actor. Like his arrange is ridiculous because he is actually just becomes different roles. And you'll be like, holy shit, that is him. The fuck. All right. Deeper. Hard or soft drink containers. And before you think you know the answer and jump to a conclusion, think about it a little bit more deeply.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Because I'm calling squeasy water bottles soft, even though. they're not exactly like, you know, pillows. They're squeezy. I'm asking this for a friend. What about boobs? Boobes? Hard or soft? You mean milk bags? That's a soft drinking container. You mean milk bags? Oh, boobs. You mean milk bags? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, look, if we're talking about in the context of drink containers, yes. Also, did you know that milk comes in bags in Canada? Yes, I did know that day.
Starting point is 00:37:15 What the fuck, Canada? They got milk bags in Canada? You buy milk bags at the store in Canada. Kids see those. What about, okay, aluminum cans. When you hold them before they're open, they're hard because of pressure, but afterwards they kind of crinkle a little bit. They're a little softer.
Starting point is 00:37:31 They are a tiny bit flexible, as opposed to what I'm thinking, you're thinking like a cup like this being hard. Well, even like a Capri Sun Pouch, when it's filled with liquid, it's hard because it has volume inside of it. Like, I would say the can because it's a crushable. You could crush those up with your hands.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I would say those are soft. I mean, unless you're a madman, you can't crush like a ceramic coffee mug with your hands down to like... Right, right. Anything that is malleable with your own strength, right? All right, I'm going to go out on a very niche use case for this, because in the long run, I'm not sure if it matters that much unless you got some genius thing,
Starting point is 00:38:10 but I'll give a niche case for soft things, like a Capri Sun in general. When I traveled for making Iron Lung a lot, I had this exterior dock that I brought, with me that had its built-in power supply, it was very useful, but it overheated a lot. So it got really warm because it really wasn't a big fan in there. I don't even know if there was a fan. But I learned a trick, which is a Capri Sun has an aluminum, soft aluminum-based pouch.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I don't know if it's fully aluminum, but it's soft. So if you kept them in the fridge and or kept them in the freezer, here's how the order you do, you get the one from the fridge that's cold, you lay it on top of there. It would kind of mold a little bit to the shape of it. And then it would heat up and it would be a little heat sink. I would take that shape, put it in the freezer afterwards. It would freeze flat on the bottom so that I could put it back on. And then I started a chain of like,
Starting point is 00:39:03 probably the people at TBD wondered if I had like an addiction to Capri Sun because I kept grabbing them all. That's so fucking funny. Why is Mark getting all the Capri Suns from Crafty? Every five minutes he gets another Capri Sun. What the fuck is this? And it worked. It would last for like.
Starting point is 00:39:20 when it was frozen, it would last for like an hour, and it wouldn't really drip on anything. It didn't, for some reason, it didn't, like, condensate that much. It worked really effectively as, like, a little cooling pad for tech. No, no one do this, or it might leak on your tech or something like this.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I did this because, like, I knew, I didn't know what I was doing. I was just desperate, right? People, the visions of Mark's server room and his bathroom with, like, Capri Sun cooling. I'm telling you, It worked, man. It's just a thermal heat sink at the end of the day. GoPro, listen, I've got ideas for the future. Would you like a wild cherry?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Look, liquid has a really high, whatever the scientific term for heat capacity is. You know, it has a high that. So isn't that a specific temperature where how much energy it takes to change its temperature by a degree or whatever or something like that? Yeah, and because it's flexible and also has an aluminum pouch, plastic's not very thermally conductive. But the Capri Sun pouches, at least if they still make them with aluminum, which I probably changed out of that, they are very conductive. Not as conductive some metals, but aluminum still conducts heat. I want Capri Sun so bad right now. That's so fucking funny, though.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, my God. That's such a good idea. Yeah, see, so soft all the way. No, that's so. This you pull up at Mark's house and there's a fucking huge palette of glower salts in the trash. and then there's a Capri Sun cooler park next to his server farm the fucking Silver Surfer from the Capri Sun commercials It's just like whoosh
Starting point is 00:40:55 Wush got to render these physics sims Wush I mean it's it worked to work I can't believe you never told that story I know you were in the absolute depths of suffering of making this movie that consumed you for years But that's so fucking funny Can I give another little hack that I did for my render farm real quick
Starting point is 00:41:15 but as an aside. So the, a lot of people know I had Mac studios in my render farm and people were like, that's crazy. It's like, but it makes sense because power efficiency and there.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I'm going to the Apple event, the Worldwide Developer Conference. I'm going to tell them that I did this. And also I'm going to tell them a hack to stack them in a way that made them thermally balance is because it's a big flat block of aluminum, right? So what I did is I put one like this
Starting point is 00:41:39 and then one upside down like that with a thermal pad in between to like exchange heat between the two, surfaces and overall the temperature lowered between both of them because as one worked versus the other because you had a bigger heat dissipation yeah it because I had a thermal pad in between it was able to like exchange heat between the surfaces because it's just a big brick of aluminum and so I did back back back stack them up like that like I did you know the coffee creamers in in like the restaurant when you go in there you stack one with a little triangle shaping go one to the other like
Starting point is 00:42:10 to the other to the other and I did that and it worked and because it left a large gap where the fans were so it was able to suck in more it worked anyway if you could find a way to get cheap big heat sink fins and then use the fins as spacers and like you'd have like air flow oh my well fuck it you don't need the fins then you just need like copper plates right that's what i had i had a thermally conductive gel pad in between them so i'm just thinking like if you had pipes if you had heat exchange pipes through them or fins right because then you could extract more out you could lower the overall temperature even more. You could build like a rack setup where it's like you can put eight Mac studios in this
Starting point is 00:42:53 and it's all head-to-head heat synced with copper or whatever or like, man, so you got tell these stories, Mark. That's funny shit. I try. I try. No one likes it. Oh, you're always like, oh, lenses. Oh, I need a GoPro.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You got to tell me how you manage heat in your electronic devices, Mark. This is the shit that I'm here for. That's the one niche. This is how you score points with me, man. And it's a story for everyone. Dumb caveman Wade like Capri's son. Bob get technology good out of it. All right, okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Works for everybody. That's so good. I like that. Yeah, true story, everybody, about the Capri's son. Very true. I bet you're going to say that to them and they're going to be like, oh, cool. And then go back to telling about how Apple Intelligence is the next great feature in computing and whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah, probably, really, really. Wayne, good luck. Look, I think soft is so much fun. I love the portability, usability. I am a soft guy. But even that being said, listen, boobs, the best evolutionary trait ever. Like, am I right? We used to have hard boobs back in my day.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Soft boobs. God damn. Changing the world. But part of me always feels bad with all of the soft that I use, because like it does make a lot of waste. And even with recycling, there's still a lot of waste and byproduct. Whereas just a nice hard glass, you know, you can clean it out and reuse it. You can dishwash. Like, it's just, it's always there and it doesn't produce that amount of waste. So as much as I do enjoy the soft, love soft. I'm a soft guy. I feel like hard is probably the better answer for the sheer
Starting point is 00:44:35 fact that like, I think of how many water bottles and cans and stuff I go through, how many like awful styrofoam cups and stuff I go through that would be counted as soft like a lot of waste and it's probably really really bad for pretty much everything that is true generally that's just true that's just true fact yeah but marks was so much more fun good job mark I agree fun fun fun is fun it's so fun thank you thank you the caprice sun cycling them through the freezer though that's so fucking funny because I've had things I've had laptops and things where like Like it just runs hot and you're like, I just need like a fucking something to get the heat out of this
Starting point is 00:45:16 that's not going to like drip all over it or some stupid. It's such a good, it's such an elegant solution. I'll say sell Capri Sons everywhere, at least in America. By them, it's true. By them, every grocery store that exists. Not like loud or salts. Hard to come by. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Deeper. Hard or soft. Dentist. This one is more. I like my dentist direct. Listen. This is more of a, it's, I don't know, it's a theoretical, hard or soft, but, but I don't like the dentist, right? But my philosophy is, I want a dentist who's going to strap me to the chair like I'm a, like I'm against my will,
Starting point is 00:45:57 and it's going to get in there and it's going to fucking and do whatever they need to do, not to fuck up my teeth, but to fix my teeth, right? I have had some teeth problems. I would rather, even though I hate it. It makes me cringe just thinking about. I would rather have a dentist who's like, I'm going to get the fuck in there. I'm going to clean every little speck up. Because if you have a soft dentist, then you're like, maybe it's really pleasant. Maybe they play some enya.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Maybe it's really. But then are they really cleaning your teeth enough? Is that enough? You tell me, hard or soft dentists, go. Okay, Bob, for the point, I agree with you 100%. No, I don't have stake in this. You get points for making good arguments. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:46:40 You said. No, no, that's not how this works. I'm completely unbiased. Go. I love my dentist in my mouth. Who can I say one? You need to floss more. But you get what you're going up saying, right?
Starting point is 00:46:52 You go what I'm coming from, right? Am I crazy here? Yes. I think a good dentist doesn't feel like they've strapped you down at her torturing you, but do a thorough job. You could have a bad dentist that straps you down and a bad dentist that's just like, you're clean, time to go. Like, what the fuck? I definitely want one that does their job.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I guess if that's hard. What did they just throw in my mouth? Wait, what was that? Magical cleaning dust. They throw the clean grenade into my mouth. It's just a nice flavor. What flavor would you like that? You're clean.
Starting point is 00:47:23 No, give me the hard one, I guess, because I want them to do their job. But like, my dentist is both. Like, I get some nice music in the background. I feel. What did both? I've always liked the dentist. I'm weird. I prefer the dentist to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I do not mind having my teeth scrape. How many points? am I allowed to take away for one thing, you said? Apparently a lot. I've always liked the dentist. Compared to the doctor, yes. Like, no one likes going to either, but like... Compared to the doctor?
Starting point is 00:47:50 I will go to the dentist over the doctor any day, yeah. The doctor doesn't do anything to you 80% of the time. I get so much more nervous at a doctor's office. They touch you and they're like, oh, yeah, it sounds like a heartbeat. And then you leave. And then it's fine. What does your doctor do? There's always shots and animals and ball squeezes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:09 What? Whoa! Whoa! You need to get one of the soft doctors. What the hell? The dentist just makes my teeth nice and sparkly. What the fuck? Mark, I have no stake in which answer here is correct, but save us, please. Look, I, I'm not 100% on board with my dentist being in the tooth trenches and coming out of the tooth war. And going into my mouth and having a tooth flashback.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I don't know if I need that. They can talk to you gentle and scrape your teeth with a metal pick. I don't think that's too bad. Because I don't know. I just, I don't need to be strapped into my chair. Well, they can be hard but nice.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But like a good teacher, right? Like, they don't take any bullshit from your teeth. Right. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about. Don't call them out by name, but like,
Starting point is 00:49:05 they don't fuck around. That's who my dentist is. They're a good dentist. I don't need any bull. what did my teeth do to them? What kind of attitude was like, I get at them with my teeth? This teeth better not give me any lip. That doesn't even make sense.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'm going to have these teeth expelled if they keep causing problem in your mouth. Those tongues get in the way of the cleaning amputate. We'll put it back later. I guess, you know, because it makes it sound like the soft dentist is not going to do a good job. And this is how I am with dentist is I made a dentist appointment to go, because I was having some tooth pain, all the sour candy, I was like, ah, I probably got a cavity. And, you know, they said, oh, I don't think, you don't have a cavity,
Starting point is 00:49:45 but, you know, we could, we could do something, and maybe, like, your gums are a little, like, they might need something here. It's a little low on this one side. I'm like, that makes sense. That makes sense. All right, we'll get you in next month. And we're like, all right, come back.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I'm like, okay. And I missed the appointment. I never came back. I was so afraid that they'd be mad at me. I don't know why. Just like, oh, man, they're going to be pissed. I show up again. They're like,
Starting point is 00:50:08 Oh, Mark, I was wondering when you'd show up. And so I'd be like, I don't know why. I just haven't gone back. That was three years ago. I was like that for a while, all through college, whenever I was no longer, the younger to be my mom's health insurance. I didn't have any health insurance and, like, college and stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And I was like, I can't afford a dentist. So I didn't go to the dentist for like seven or eight years. And the last three years I didn't go, we're just like, well, I've not been in four years. If I go now, they're going to be so mad at me for not going to be for. Yeah, they're going to be mad. No, it's real. I had that same feeling.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I was like, I don't want to go. The fear is real. This is a PSA, I guess for Mark too, but for everyone. Go to the dentist, guys. Yeah, go to the dentist. Oh, God, go to the dentist. No matter how bad you think it's going to be, it's so much worse when you're going to the dentist because a tooth is falling out.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Or you're like, you're bleeding and you're like, oh, why is my mouth bleeding? Oh, fuck. just go because and like it's maybe you can't afford it like the realities of the world are what they are but if you can go to the dentist holy fuck go to the dentist because I am not
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'm gonna have some oral procedures coming up and I'm not looking forward to it I wish my teeth weren't so fucked I really do I can't say this for everyone my dentist office I think works with people really well too for affordability stuff I don't know that all of them are like that but like there are dentist office
Starting point is 00:51:34 that understand and will work with you. And make sure you find a hard one. No stake in the answers here, but hard was the correct answer. Point for Wade. Objective point for Wade. I lost an unknown amount of points for my answer, but also I gained one. Even though Mark, I think, said hard also. No, I don't know if I gave an answer.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I was a real loosey-goosey, which I think, you know, speaks to my character. I tried to make this list so that it would sort of descend into the madness. but I feel like, I feel like I'm not sure if any of these are going to get deeper, and I guess I'm curious now about that, but I wish that they were more unhinged. I have strong feelings about this one situationally. Curious what you guys think. Hard or soft bags. All in any bags. It's a hard bag.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Like a hard suitcase. You know how they have like coolers or it's like a hard, you know, hard shell bag type of deal or like a, like a sturdy purse. is like a hard bag, like a nice thick leather, you know, hard bag or soft bag? This speaks to how much better hard bags are because I can put in a completely different category. Because imagine like a purpose-built system of bags with hard bags all the way around with like, they cinch closely lock tight and like it's like Pelican cases all the way down, you know. There's something about like a loosey-goosey bag that just can flop around and spill all your contents. put it in another bag and it's just going to flop everywhere and it's going to be all non-committal
Starting point is 00:53:06 and whatnot. But it's like if you have a hard bag, like what you're saying, it's purpose built for an express solution. And that's the solution I need. I don't need any wishy-washiness with my bag. I need it for the intended purpose. It's laser cut to fit the things that I'm going to put in this thing and it's going to be secure as hell.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm all about this. That being said, I dump all my shit in my backpack and then go off to France. It's what I do. Look, both things can be true. Yeah, yeah. But when I find the bag that's hard and purposely for the thing, I'm like, oh my God, and I buy them, and then I've got a stack of pelicans, you know, just sitting there empty. But they're there.
Starting point is 00:53:47 They're there for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. End theory, hard bag. In practice, soft bag. Same thing. What do I transport? I don't transport all my, like, equipment and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I transport clothes and like some toiletries. And you know what I need? Something that's light whenever you're running through the Chicago airport and have to get 13 miles in 10 seconds. And I need something that I'm not going to hit my foot on and break my toe like a hard bag. And space, my God, is space hard to come by? And you can't squish down hard bag.
Starting point is 00:54:19 You can squish down soft bag. You fit so many soft bag. And whenever those bags are empty, they, maybe not suitcases, but your backpack, perfectly flat. Other bag, perfectly flat. Those bags they only let you have in California at the grocery store anymore, you can stuff 500 of those things in one other bag.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And then you have infinite bags. I could never run out of bags from going to the grocery store three times because there's so many bags. I love Wade's California stand-up routine. Whereas hard bag, like, what am I going to do? Go to the grocery store with my pelican. Like, I need eggs and two liter. Here's a third bag. Soft is so much more useful.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Hard? Protect your electronics and grandma or whatever else you're carrying around. Sure, I get it. Soft. Oh, the portability, the lightness, the aerodynamics. I will say about the California thing. They undid the thing with the plastic because it was like they made just the plastic bag sticker. And so they went back to like, yeah, we use plastic paper or whatever. And so now paper bags are a thing. And the unfortunate thing is, because paper bags used to be at grocery stores and they were free with, you know, you check out, they're there. Now it's the same. Now it's the same. same paper bags that were there before, but they still charge 15 cents for him. And I have to go to the grocery store. I'm like, hey, wait a minute. Hey, you move the goalpost. Hey, wait a minute. Hold on a second. They were always like this. No, I don't think so, sir, Mr. Groch. This is hardly a bag conversation at all, but can I just say, you know those collapsible boxes where it's like a little crate and it folds flat kind of deal? Those are well. you want for the grocery store. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:56:01 You get one or two of those and you put them in the bottom of your cart and then you just and then when you go to your car, you fucking take one or two boxes out of the cart into your car. There's no like, how many bags? Can I hold 19 bags on one arm and still open the door to the, no. You use one good box, but that's not a bag. That's not, I would not say that that's like a hard bag. That's a box.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So it doesn't really count. I just, I really like. I discovered that at some point and was like, God, I love a box. I love a grocery box, you know? Anyway, I decide who's right. I understand it's difficult, but it's me. Well, I understand that that might complicate things, but it's me. Alright, no points for that.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Last one. That's a lie, I gave points for that. I was just... Okay. I said we would circle back to this, so I basically have to, or else I'm pretty sure I'm fired. Hard or soft. Boat. And think about it before you left.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Ha ha ha ha! Oh, sorry. Damn it. Now, I need you do that, hard or soft. Is a soft boat like a raft? Like a dinghy, like those inflatable dinghies where they get rigid when you inflate them kind of deal. Like a pontoon kind of thing. It depends how you feel about it.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I got to go, even love a pontoon. I consider a pontoon a hard boat because you don't want to get hit with a pontoon. Whereas I don't know if a dingy will do much. Maybe it will with high enough speed. But like traversing Lake Cumberland growing up, beautiful lakes, the waves and everything. But there's trees. and plants and rocks and things and the water level changes and storms happen
Starting point is 00:57:32 and sometimes there's just fucking logs and trees you can't even see they're floating and stuck just below the surface and if you hit one of those things with like I don't know if you count like a fiberglass is hard but like some of the speed boats those things touch one of those trees they're fucked a dingy touches one of those trees you are fucked but if you have a nice solid boat
Starting point is 00:57:52 you might still be fucked but maybe less likely to be so so give me hard give me diamond crystal boat just gonna cut that fucking tree in half. Fuck those underwater trees and their murderous tendencies on the lake. I just want to be on my tube. But you know what tubes are? Soft. And if you hit a tree on a tube,
Starting point is 00:58:09 you die in the sky. Explode. Damn. Yeah, that's what happens. I tube wrong. How cousin Larry went. Jesus. Hard boat and soft.
Starting point is 00:58:21 It's a hard boat soft tube. Kind of seemed like you were making the case for hard boat hard tube, if I'm honest. Probably need to, but like a hard tube sounds really painful to bounce on and land on. Maybe his hard bottoms off top. Look, okay, all right. Let me clean up his meandering lost answer here with a quote from I-B sailing, who, as you know, was on the Titanic, one of the hardest boats around. And he still, his quote, goes,
Starting point is 00:58:48 Ah! Because they died, right, from their hard boat getting bedoinked by, an iceberg and it just split in half, much like a taco. This is a soft situation. When I, when we crash in our hard, hard plane into the water, do I want to be in the hard, hard plane or do I want to be in the soft, soft slide? I want to be in the soft slide, which doubles as a boat. All of their flotation device is soft. When you absolutely need to float, you go soft. Counterpoint, what do you think is harder? Water or ice? Which one floats? That's right. Hard. Yeah, which one's deadly, ice, the iceberg from I.B. Sailing, who was famously on the Titanic, once again, said,
Starting point is 00:59:31 whoa, look out, hard water. You know what else is deadly? Hard oxygen, probably. I won't deny that. I will concede that. So what's your point? Hard is bad? Yeah, hard bad. No, hard good. No, but you said hard oxygen is dangerous, so hard oxygen is also bad, so hard is bad. Well, hard hydrogen's probably soft hydrogen? What's the one to breathe in? Uh, I think he's, I think he's, I think, He's on my side here, I think. Hydrogen monoxide? Sounds bad. Well, I'm not a chemist, so I don't know about these things.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I'm not a crook. I'm Richard Nixon. I was going to make the point, and Mark brought it up. You would think, hard boat, Titanic, sunk by ice, dangerous. One boat in 130 years. So soft is the answer. Titanic is actually a soft boat. That's my conclusion here.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Titanic needed to be harder in order to destroy the ice instead of being destroyed by ice. Because I can crush ice with my teeth. Ice is not that hard, okay? I'm sure all ice is exactly the same. And it works the same way. And when I have a drink and I crunch up ice, there's no way that a boat should be less hard than my shitty teeth that I go to my hard dentist to maintain. So really, Titanic soft boat, Titanic 2 needs to be hard boat. In the era, we were only able to get so hard in the time.
Starting point is 01:01:01 But I got to say, of that time, was the Titanic not the hardest boat they made? As Calhawkely said, it is unsinkable. Even God himself could not sink this ship. So that's pretty hard. So Cal is saying that God loses to ice too? God dang. Francis Stokes. said, the sea finds out everything you did wrong, hard or soft.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Remember the alternate ending to Titanic where Jack and Rose instead of having sex tucked tape to the side of Titanic and just bit their way through the iceberg and saved the boat? Yes. Hard teeth. Better than ice, like you were saying, Bob. You are so smart and right. Hard teeth, therefore hard boat.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I have other quotes that make no sense I could read. I think that's enough quotes. I think I've heard enough. The Bible. go on. Let's go ahead and call it there. I think we really got to the bottom of hard or soft. I think everybody who was watching and listening knows which one they would want. So let's just tally up some points and get out of here. Mark, you earned points for you died. Taxi-Moto. When you realized it was a motorcycle. Yeah, bice about beard lice for Wade.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Imagine having a GoPro. You were correct about docos. You had I.B. Salin, who came back a lot. In fact, I actually think I owe you an I.B. Salin point. You were robbed? Oh, yes. Yeah, definitely. Okay. Capri-on heat sinks. That was genius. That might be the smartest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:02:40 The perfect bag you'd never use. I own some of those. They're the best. And Wade, you earned points for realizing that you are Wade. You were an assassin. Blah, blah, something Diablo. Greater than her equal to eight years of dating. The ego is down. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You were correct about ice cream. You hit me with a classic, back in my day. You're a soft guy, self-proclaimed. You're correct about the dentist being hard. And you got ass-kissing points. Yes. That leaves. Once I add Mark's extra Ivy Salin point,
Starting point is 01:03:16 because I be sailing came around a lot. and you have to respect it. Mark with 11 points and Wade with 11 points. Ooh. Ooh. Wade was actually up by two, but then I realized that I didn't count
Starting point is 01:03:30 one of the points that I wrote down and then Mark earned the extra Iby sailing point. Mark's just out here doing a good job. Thank you, man. Thank you. And so is Wade to a lesser extent. We're tied. Ah, but that doesn't mean you're doing an equally good job.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah, yeah. Come on. That must be the neighborhood baseball because everyone's taking a swing. How many wheel spins will we have? It's one. Oh my God. One spin to rule them all. Wow, two ones in a row.
Starting point is 01:04:01 We never get ones. We're getting ones today. I'm going to say whoever was the softest boy this episode gets a point. We will definitely not know what that means when it comes up. God, that this clear all button just existing. right here. Makes me nervous seeing you hover over it. Like, what if I just put it there and then I just pick up the mouse and I'm just like, there must be a confirmation. There would have to be, right? Oh, I should, maybe I should click it and find out. Yeah, one way to find out. I mean, you've got a
Starting point is 01:04:35 backup of this, right? That's my confidence, squeak. 109 options on this wheel I'm sure this one spin will result in not me spitting for a one-man show fate Can we not Wait We're all here
Starting point is 01:04:58 We're all here We're at home Yeah everyone's home okay We remember what that means It was witness protection everyone at home listening Oh yeah I said witness protection Sorry sorry listeners Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry
Starting point is 01:05:09 Sorry sorry Come on Got the flattest You know what I mean No, it's too late, man It's too late, it's too late What, since when? Too late
Starting point is 01:05:24 Got past tense Is best got us Best get a shit One that we do this spot No one got flat Mark's correct Yeah, I don't think we got flat That one's ever gonna work then
Starting point is 01:05:35 No one's ever gonna get flat for no reason Worst guesser Who the fuck Did anyone guess anything in this episode? We've never spun any of these ever. But I do, I guess we do know what that would be, but yeah, it wasn't really a guessing game. Yeah, I guess. You guess.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah, that's funny. You both guessed. I guess you did at least. I can earn points that way. Most interruptions of the other guys. Wow, these are crazy different men. We've never spun. of these. I usually interrupt the most. It was probably me. I bet it was me. Not to interrupt my opponent, but I think it was me.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Damn it. You did interrupt me to tell me it was you. I had a couple, uh, I had a couple different, you know, I went on a tangent or two. I went on a cosine or a sign. I feel that, but I also just feel like, uh, it's fine. I just don't know if there were interruptions, you know? Whoever puts these on this wheel just have some terrible ideas. Oh, they're good ideas. You just brought up looking. Oh, Wade loses a point. Hey! Holy shit, that one too. That's such a different.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I forgot about that one. I've got such bad reception right now. It's unfair. I used to like try to read the answers before it came up so I would know if this one was coming up. I forgot about that. It says last to touch nose loses a point. And Mark and I both frantically touched our noses and Wade didn't even react. I was kind of debated because it could be one where it's like, uh, first to touch nose loses a point or something like that, which should be added there.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah. That's not, it's latency, latency. It was latency. I'm on the other side of the country. You can't even use that excuse. Yeah, but you and Bob are so in sync. We are. It's true. I'm very biased towards Mark.
Starting point is 01:07:32 It's just generally a true statement. I'm more backstreet boys. But anyway, Mark wins with a score of 11 to 10. because Wade lost a point for being the slowest to touch his nose. Shit-ass fuck. Classic distractible goof, everybody. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Congratulations, Mark. Uh, Wade, loser's speech.
Starting point is 01:07:56 It was a well-fought fight, finicky, fraught, filling, forlorn. Farewell. Mark, you can do a normal winner speech if you want, or you can pick alliteration, whichever one you choose. Firmly fun feelings filling friends fine fanciful feasts for fucking fools fancily fairly financially fund
Starting point is 01:08:33 flop flop flip flap floor Flip flap, floors, form. LaBea. That's French. Cans. That's true. If anybody hears French, it's Mark. Freedom.
Starting point is 01:08:49 A classic Mark winner speech. Congratulations, Mark. Thank you. Watchers slash listeners, make sure you're following the podcast, because Mark will be hosting the next one, which is always good. Way better than when Wade host the next one. Sorry, Wade. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Christ. Yeah, I said, that. Make sure check out the merch store, distractible.shop. The special five-year merch is maybe sold out, but maybe there's other stuff. You have to look. You gotta stay on top of that. Follow Mark at Markiplier, wait at Lord Minion 777, or Minion 777. I am My Skirm. That is the end of this episode. We'll see you with another one next Monday, hosted by Mark. And until then, podcast out.

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