Distractible - Hill I Will Die On

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

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Masculine Mark, Blaring Bob, and Worried Wade. This week, the truculent trio take a stand and draw their line in the sand. For there comes a time when even these jocular jesters can take no more. Yes, it's time for The Hill I Will Die On. Please prepare thy fervor and enjoy the show. Hello and welcome to the Distractible Podcast, your your favorite podcast or we're assuming that it is considering that you return here every monday it better be and if you ever want to hear it again you'll be sure to hit that subscribe button or like button or whatever it is why are we threatening us i don't know it usually works i want to hear this podcast again you better listen

he ended last episode telling people to never come back and now he's starting this one threatening them if they don't so i don't know yeah yeah i like to keep people on their toes they never know what i'm thinking sure yeah no that makes sense yeah it's perfect how are you guys doing good good yeah great even great even that sounds good better than great even fantastic even podcast stage love i can't do hannah barbara voices but yeah man i haven't even thought of what is that is that pink panther what is that snaggle puss yeah snaggle puss snaggle puss that's right man it's been a while that's you know snaggle puss you mean that's not hip with the kids these days oh he is like a pink cat maybe that's why i thought of it

yeah weird whatever doesn't matter not the topic of conversation but small talk is not over we have an allotted amount of time we will fill it oh okay yeah so wade what is new oh uh not a whole lot had a good busy week as always fun games fun things good food you know you're saying fun things and really nice stuff but you're saying it in a way that makes it sound like a burden life is a burden but you can enjoy it along the way mark it doesn't sound like you're enjoying it i always enjoy food okay that's true that is true food's a part of life yeah all right bob how are you doing uh pretty good yeah starting to warm up the sun's staying out longer finally it was like dark at 5 p.m for a long time it's finally like starting to edge out a little sun a little later in the evening a little warmer during the day you

can like go outside and it's not it's not freezing cold but you can't go on you can't go on a bike ride in like 45 degree weather your hands will hurt it's too cold any funny videos you guys have seen on the internet any crazy stories you uh perused yeah i was looking at youtube.com slash user slash lord minion 777 man there's some bangers there all right i'll go check it out later all right this is old news but since you asked it specifically sparked this okay oh wait no you know what i've talked about this before the girl who was doing the series of tiktoks where she's saying one letter of the alphabet in each new t tock oh yeah it finished it finished it's been finished for uh a while what's the last letter what was the last letter you know what i don't remember wait i gotta look this up i know what's the username if you

guys don't know what's talking about on tick tock there's been like over the past what has been like three months it was a couple months yeah it was a long time yeah i don't know what you're talking about at all well i'm describing it someone like their tiktok is i'm about to explain it and then it ends i'm literally about to explain it why are you about to explain just explain it oh my god minus five points hell yeah the idea is she has been singing what a wonderful world well quote unquote singing but doing it one letter at a time and she started with the consonants and didn't get to vowels until the end and it's chaos yeah like i adore it every time it pops up on my for you page and i'm so glad that like whatever the algorithm behind the for you page it's genius i don't know what it is how do

you sing what a wonderful world okay so her account is moldoga m-o-l-L-D-O-G-A-A. She basically duets every time. So the first one is like just the A's, right? And then she just isolates. The song is playing and she just sings whenever there's an A sound. She's like, uh, eh. Yeah. And it stacks and stacks. I was kind of hoping when it got to the end, it would sound maybe like words.

Oh, does it not? It does not it is just an absolute nightmare fest so the last one is what is the last one w's is the 26 out of 26 the music part of it is amazing on its own because it's a hilarious idea and i followed this but there's lore this is fucking hilarious there's lore there's a progression to the videos they become increasingly unhinged in like a hilarious direction it's so good it's so good it's i watched every one of these i love a long joke a commitment to a bit i love it and i i'm glad you brought it up because i just i haven't seen the ending of it and i'm so glad that it got finished just it's so smart it's hilarious i mean it's not like you

don't watch and you don't just like laugh out loud but the whole concept as a whole is hilarious to me so i found the second video was posted on november 15th 2021. So it started back that far back. I can't find the first one. I'm an idiot. I don't know how this app works, but basically she's hilarious. And this has been a month's long journey that I've enjoyed every moment of. Yeah, it's really good. All right. I'm going to give you three points for bringing that up. Thank you. Nope. All right. Okay. So the topic, however, is not really relating to that at all. Cool. The topic of today is hills that you will die on, whether it's an opinion, whether it's something that you will defend, you won't change your mind.

You are 100% in that camp no matter what. And bonus points for it being something that a lot of people disagree with and i will start this off because this is something that i recently had a discussion again about and i didn't realize how intense i felt about this and it came up just yesterday and you guys do know what it is because i've talked about it with you guys and i'm not sponsored by it but it's stadia me uttering that word automatically i know there are people listening you guys are like oh stadia and that's what i'm against like i don't get it i don't understand why so many people out there are so against stadia i

can get not being behind google as a company but stadia works to this day i use it i love it it's so convenient everyone made complaints about like oh but there's latency and lag and i'm like yeah they're beaming video from across the world not even that because i actually know the infrastructure of stadia i was given a sneak peek early on before stadia was even stadia i saw the system i know the infrastructure and the way that they use the controller itself which everyone's like oh it's overpriced because the controller has a direct open pipeline to the server to get your inputs there at minimal lag so what you are pressing is so much better than the ping you would ever get in any multiplayer game ever in the

world and i get some people are like well i don't want to play like a like a a super reflex based thing and i'm like i've played so many games on this and i get the arguments of like digital ownership and like temporary leasing of whatever games and having to buy it again whatever i don't care because it works and i will die on this hill until Stadia eventually dies because no one is getting it. And I'm not sponsored by them, but it's just one of those things where I'm like, oh, you so many people out there have not even tried it and they hate it. I love the Stadia controller is the best controller I've ever felt.

It is better. Hey, this is my hill that I'm dying on. It is my favorite controller that I have ever held. It is so ergonomic because the Xbox controller is a close second, but the way the joysticks are like offset,

that's the only thing that bothers me about the Xbox controller. And I don't like the PlayStation controller because for some reason, the buttons feel weak when I'm pressing,

especially the PS5 controller. I don't know if anyone else encounters this, but like the actual buttons, the triangle square buttons, like they feel w5 controller, I don't know if anyone else encounters this, but like the actual buttons, the triangle square buttons, like they feel wimpy. They don't have good like press to them. And like the ergonomics of the actual triggers aren't good.

The Stadia controller is very close in shape to it. Whatever. I'm dying on this hill. I will defend Stadia. And it's mostly because so many people are against Stadia. But I love it and I will die on this hill. And you guys know this about me and i'm not taking challenges to this opinion because i'm the judge here i'm not going to challenge you honestly i like it i have stadia largely thanks to you can i just say the one

serious use case that i have for stadia somehow still isn't a fucking thing i don't want to play a game on my phone i do want to play a game that I can't play otherwise on a mobile device on an iPad. You can't play Stadia on a motherfucking iPad. So I don't ever use it. I don't own a computer that's not a gaming computer. So like if I'm going to play a game on my laptop, it's a gaming laptop. I'm going to play the game. It doesn't help me there. If I could play it on my iPad, if I could bring there. If I could play it on my iPad, if I could bring the Stadia controller and play it on my iPad, I would. I would do that so many places.

But the phone screen is too damn small. No AAA game designer, no the people who made Farm Sim and Formula One and all these games that are on Stadia that I would want to play, they did not make it to be at that small of a screen size. And I'm not holding my phone six inches away from my face so like i love it and i agree with you in principle on everything

that you think about stadia but i have no fucking reason to use it the one way i would want to i just looked it up and it looks like this is a recent thing but you can play stadia on ipad as a version 14.3 ios version 14.3 i think i'm up to date but anyway you have to do it on the browser yeah oh yeah no you can do that that's terrible oh okay okay okay that's fair i wasn't gonna talk about that okay that's like you there's a stadia app and you can go to the app and it's like cool do you want to plan your chromecast or something what are you doing on this app on the on your ipad why do you have this and i'm like i, I don't know. I thought it'd be Stadia. I do get that. I think it's the reason is it works on like Chrome tablets. But who has like a Google tablet? Who

has an Android tablet? Who does? I get that. I respect that. And I think it's because the way the controller communicates with the server and the like pipeline it needs. It's like it interferes with some of saf's or iOS is like privacy things. And I don't know what that is. But that's what I imagine it is. So I have no idea. There's like some kind of like, oh, yeah, you have to like activate an experimental feature that disables WebRTC platform UDP sockets. I don't know what that is. I have no idea. But that's apparently what you have to do. I totally do. Yeah.

But see if that works. But anyway, that's the hill that I would die on. I want to hear what you guys know in your heart of hearts is the truth and no one will listen to it. Steaks should never be well done. That's not really a controversial. That's not that controversial. You'd think it isn't, but it's a hill I will still die on because people are like,

oh, people should be able to eat the way they want to. No, steak should never be well done. I thought you were going to say like Mexican food was bad and that was the hill you're going to die on. Yeah, that's a good one. No, that is subjective. But steak becomes a shoe if it becomes well done. It is no longer edible. I totally agree.

That's just the first one I thought of. I don't know if it was a controversial one, but it's the first one I thought of. I had to share it. I'm of. I had to share it. I'm sorry. I had to get it out there. Whoa, what are you listening to this for? Wait, who's talking? You know you're driving a 2024 Ford Escape with available Alexa built in, so you can change the music.

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Okay. All right. This is, okay, well, now I'm thinking through it. It's maybe less spicy, but this bothers the shit out of me, and I want to educate people. There's a phrase that people use commonly when something happens and you're disinterested in it. The phrase is, I could not care less. I couldn't care less. The phrase is not, I could care less, because what that means is that you care, and you could care less than you do. I that you care and you could care less

than you do i'm guilty of saying it but i agree with you makes my brain short circuit when i hear people be like ah that's stupid i could care less my brain is like no wrong and it's like a stupid thing but it drives me insane drives me very no no i i would agree with that i i hear that all too often it's the same with like anyway and anyways it's not it's not that it's not that it's it's anyway there's not any ways about it there's not multiple anyways it's anyway and for those of you who are now looking up on google no i thought it was anyway it's not it's not that anyway we should move on. The thing that really enrages me,

the reason this is controversial, I don't know if it's that controversial, but the thing is, people say things a certain way. And I have one of these. I'll talk about this. But like, if you come across someone who's like, I could care less,

and I point it out, and I'm like, no, I think you mean couldn't care less. Like, you used that incorrectly. They're like, it's colloquial, whatever. I mean, they mean the same thing. And like, they don't. But this is the kind of thing where people are like well that's how i learned how to say it so that's what that means to me but you know what i say that's probably the exact same thing to some people i did it on accident apparently that's

wrong apparently you can't do something on accident that would mean that i did it on purpose things happen by accident or accidentally but i say i did it on accident and i i didn't know that was a thing until one time i said that and mandy was like that's not right you don't do things on purpose accidentally you do things by accident or on purpose and i was like the fuck do you mean i didn't i did it on accident what are you so i do the exact same thing that drives me insane with other phrases. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like English is hard, man. Bad language.

Bad language. All right. Custard is the worst word in the English dictionary. What? Why? Custard. What? The word custard is the worst word.

It has cuss and turd in it. And it is the name of a food that I will never crave because the name is so horrific. Custard is delicious. What? Custard is great. It doesn't matter how good custard is. The the name is so horrific. The custard is delicious. What? Custard is great. It doesn't matter how good custard is. The word itself is the worst. The word custard is awful.

I'm sorry. You eat animal flesh. How is that less bad than custard? This is supposed to be a hill I'm willing to die on. I'm not saying anything about the food. The food is fine. The name of the food is the problem. Yeah, but what's wrong with it?

Cuss and turd slapped together for the name of a delicious food item. Don't call it that yeah i'm the pill i'm dying on is that the word custard is awful i'm not commenting on the food i'm commenting on the word well you know what i'm gonna say that is probably pretty controversial because that's just a really weird and arbitrary opinion you have i wonder where this associating came from because when i hear custard i think of like a sweet creamy treat i like why do you have an association i hear turd and i'm turned away from it wade's brain does weird shit with words i will say this you'll this is controversial hell's people i'm doing my job you you know but seriously wade wade will be listening to a

conversation yeah you know we'll be talking like yeah talking like, yeah, we went on the airplane. We were in the airport and went on the plane. And we'll be having a conversation about traveling on airplanes. And Wade will just be like, air? Somebody's farting a lot, huh? Your brain breaks words apart. It's not like it's not related to anything. You find a meaning and then your brain is just like, air, gas, farts, fart joke, poopies.

And like, you just go. So like, I get that you do that, but that's, I feel like that's not common. I don't know. Every time you do that, my brain is like, whoa, my brain does it instantaneously too. There's not like, I have to retrace my steps to figure out how I get places sometimes. Cause I'll hear something. I'll end up someplace like, how the hell did I get here? Sometimes it's crazy. Sometimes it just goes places.

But like, I've never in my life heard the word custard and thought like, ooh, gross words together. It's its own word that has a separate meaning. Yeah, exactly. But I'll still give you a point for that, Wade. That is a controversial hill to die on. Thank you.

Well, you thought of that really quickly um i got another one if you want me to go with another one i don't know if it's controversial but there's another one that drives me absolutely bonkers yeah no i have one this i don't know how alone i am on this i feel like there are probably people who would agree with this one dark souls and the souls like games all of that franchise, are garbage. And so it's the narrative equivalent of creating a faceless character. You are the whatever,

whatever they're called in each thing. And then putting you in a world and being like, yeah, there's a bunch of shit you can read and just there are things you have to do. But like the storytelling, you gotta want to find the story in those games you gotta want it they're garbage i know that this is gonna bring a lot of heat i know people who like those games are real hot on them and i'm not knocking the mechanics

at all i understand the interest in the mechanics of the very like frame precise very tough challenging punishing gameplay this story is your guy with the weapon run around and kill some shit. Yeah, right. So, okay, I opened up this conversation, this topic, and I'm not judging based on how much I personally would disagree.

I'm just going to ask a few follow-up questions. So you are solely basing your judgment of the game based on the story yeah and the storytelling methodology i'll fully admit i don't like the games to play because i don't like that kind of game uh hard challenging punishing you die a lot that's the point i get that that's that's appealing and i understand why it's appealing and i don't like that i fully admit that i think that people go up their own ass about the lore. There's all this. And there is.

There's so much shit in this game to learn about and all these things. But I don't want to. It's not a class. I don't play a video game so that I can go outside of the game to read forums. I can go through the game and search for little scraps of paper. It's not a story. There's no story if you're the one who's like well what is this i guess i'd better research this for hours or go online and find the

answer yeah i'm not denying that the lore may be interesting but they don't tell you shit it's not a story it's a class on a weird ancient history of this whatever you know the bloodborne thing the thing that's it's not a story they don't tell you anything yeah i will agree that the story of bloodborne the entire like way that it's told is just you don't know what the fuck is going on and you don't know why anything is happening it's all in the environment but it's also all hidden like super hidden you wake like this is bloodborne for people that haven't played bloodborne you wake up with an old man standing over you talking about some blood he's got a vile blood then these like little lemming things start crawling all over your face you wake up in this really disgusting like quote unquote operating room okay quote big quote unquote walk out, there's a werewolf that will kill you

if it's your first time playing because you don't know how to fight it. Oh yeah, you're supposed to die to it unless you already have done it before. You know how it works. So you die, you wake up in the dream, quote, unquote. I think that's just what the name, like the hunter's dream is what it's called.

There's a freaking weird doll on the ground that doesn't talk to you. You go up, there's an old man who you think is maybe the old man you saw before not the same old man just a different old man and all the lawyer people like well if you look at the second picture frame on the mantle place that was like on the right side you'll see that it's actually a picture of that old man and the doll so there was obviously a clue that they were like together and then you'll see a picture of that same old man, but younger in the next picture. And it's like, I get that. I do appreciate that.

However, the games be wonderful. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. The game is really fun. I've enjoyed all the Dark Souls games. I have no idea after playing through them, any idea of what the story was. I have no clue. so that's a thing

right this is where this comes from i guess yeah i've always wanted to like the souls games and like bloodborne and those games because everyone fucking loves them everyone's like oh it's a masterpiece just and i'm like i don't i don't care for the mechanic that's not i i'm into like first person shooters i played counter-strike my whole life i That's not, I'm into like first person shooters. I played Counter-Strike my whole life. I played Call of Duty. I'm into like, it's just a difference in taste. And I'm not the kind of person where I'm like, oh, it's a shitty game because I don't like it.

I understand. The fact that I don't appreciate the mechanics of the game does not mean it's bad. Yeah. But then people will be like, oh, well, but the story, you know, you can muddle through, you can do your best with the mechanics, but how do you not get drawn in by the story? What do you mean drawn in by the story, you know, you can muddle through, you can do your best with the mechanics, but how do you not get drawn in by the story? What do you mean drawn in by the story? You gotta fucking go on an expedition to learn anything about anything. If there was a story where it was telling me and I was like, well, this is really fucking hard and miserable, but this is fascinating.

I might play them and enjoy them a little for that. But people who know everything, every piece of lore about all the hundreds and thousands of different items and all this, you don't know that because the game showed you through example or told you any story in an interesting way. That shit is just available in text form

somewhere hidden in the shitty world it exists within. You gotta play that game 10 times through to learn it. I don't find that at all engaging or worthwhile. The lore is cool when someone tells me the story of the lore i'm always like ah that is cool wow why didn't they tell me that when i played the game that one time i would have been like oh cool wow i understand what's happening a little bit uh yeah no i fucking it's a it's a miserable game where you don't know what's happening unless you already know what's happening which means you already have 3,000 hours in the game, which is just not me.

Yeah, this is the topic that we were covering. So because it is such a hill that I would never even come close to, I respect it though for the topic. I'll give you three points. Oh man, okay. I've got, man, I've got some opinions of games that I feel like are controversial.

I don't know if it's a hill I want to die on. It doesn't have to be games. It doesn't have to be games. I will say people that don't squeeze air out of bags, Ziploc bags, food, chips before they put them away are monsters. That's a hill I'm willing to die on. Yeah, I get that. That's probably pretty universal. Yeah, I don't think that's super controversial.

I don't know if there's people that do it. I don't know anyone that does that, but I'm with you. That's bad. Bad practice. When I tie off a Ziploc, i suck the air out that's hardcore with my mouth because i want a perfect vacuum i have done that uh i think i've only played two of the games and watched one i've not played all of them but from what i've seen i believe the legend of zelda franchise is overrated you wouldn't get a really angry response from me,

but I know that some people are frothing at the mouth right now. Yeah, some people love it to death. I don't think it's necessarily bad, but having seen and played through some of it, I've just never gotten it with that franchise. Go deeper. Yeah, so what about it specifically? Because some of the games individually are certainly not great,

even bad maybe, and people might agree with that what about it you do not like the franchise i think part of it is just i've never really enjoyed games where you have like a somewhat silent protagonist and you have like that other character like navi or whoever that speaks for you that kind of thing has always just kind of annoyed me i've never felt like i like myself in the characters yeah even in destiny that part of it annoyed me okay that's day the gameplay is fun the story is interesting enough but that's like one part about destiny i don't like it's like uh monster hunter you know playing through monster hunter uh rise recently and it's like your character goes to open their mouth and this stupid fucking cat comes it's like ah what my buddy's trying to say And it's like fucking shut up and let me speak cat That silent protagonist thing we're like they always tease it like your character about to say something and then someone else steps in they're like

For all ten minutes or a Genshin impact you have um, what was the fucking panini what's high mom i'm on it's like shut the fuck up you little baby doll flying fairy fuck let me talk all right so um there we go that's what it'll be silent protagonist is the worst fucking concept in a video game ever and i'm done with it and i was from the start my hill. Okay, now that's a hill I can disagree with, because you've got, like, Half-Life, you know, the Half-Life 2, like, really emphasizing the silent protagonist. A really excellent games. I would like to meet, so that I can punch in the face, someone that says Half-Life or Half-Life 2 is a bad game.

Are you that person? You could be a good game. Maybe Zelda is a good game. I don't know. Maybe those games are fine. Silent protagonist as a whole. Silent protagonist sucks dick. That's strong.

That's strong. And I don't like it, but I respect it for the topic. Two points. Yeah, I see your point, but I can't agree with you on that one. It's fine. That's fine. It just annoys the fuck out of me. I will say I specifically get really annoyed at games that do the thing where you're a

silent protagonist. But every time there's a prompt for you to speak your character is just like hmm and it's like whoa whoa no destiny did that am i allowed to make noises but not allowed to talk what is that they added in like voices to your character in destiny later on but i remember it was either destiny one or two there would be moments when characters in the world would ask you something but then your little floating thing would answer for you but your character would be like oh but i was gonna say something it's like no you weren't no you don't pretend you've never said a word there is spoiler alert here there is a moment i think i think it's destiny too there's a moment where your character does finally speak uh damn no they added in voices like i i played through it originally because i was like uh i was testing

out the korean uh in destiny there's a cut scene where your character specifically finally says like his opinion on something oh really on something oh interesting i won't talk about the situation it's a podcast it's like when pikachu talks in i forget what movie it was i didn't see the movie no no no there was an animation when when like ash was dying or something and pictures like or pikachu's die is like well you always by myself why you're not in the pokemon it's because i love you there's like a bootleg video this that i saw this on and it's like the whole movie there's like what what like everyone's freaking out because it's like it's super weird no i gotta know uh speaking of pokemon there's a hill i'll die on is that pokemon i

played pokemon red when i was a child and i have therefore played every pokemon game that has ever come out because pokemon is the same game and it gets worse every single time a new Pokemon comes out. Like you don't need all these different Pokemon. It's dumb. I don't like it. I don't want to know about it. No, I don't have a favorite Pokemon. No, I don't keep up with all the Pokemon crap. I played Pokemon go a little bit because I was like, Ooh, a reason to get out. You know, when I got bored of it the day after because it was boring because it was slow i don't care about these stupid pokemon with their stupid faces and their dumb names i don't care it's dumb grow up yikes that started off as a hill i was gonna climb up onto with you

and progress very quickly to a jagged cliff face that i'm gonna let you dangle off of all on your own yeah i can't go as far as you i will agree with you in a lot of like a lot of the games are the same like you're 11 years old you're in mom's house you're about to get your first pokemon and embark on your adventure oh but this is a world inhabited by pokemon i'm professor fucking insert tree name here yeah here have these three starters one's fire one's grass one's water oh now they have two types at the end instead of one we've changed drastically now we can use a stone and change it and it'll change back like the new mechanics are bullshit lame and boring some of the end game and games like black two and white two are better than like any of the other ones but for the most part the stories are

always like god let me get through this fucking story go get my eight gym badges so i can actually enjoy the game god collecting like the tenth there are,050 or more it's like no i'm bored of the goddamn garbadors and all that shit blah blah blah blah bring the original 150 were still better arceus the one that came out has some interesting new mechanics to it finally that kind of differentiate it um i liked in heart gold and soul silver how like all the pokemon you caught each one individually could follow you behind you whatever one you had in your first slot would actually pop out of the ball and follow behind you which was kind of cool so there's been some cool things like that that i wish they'd done from the start but yeah the overall rehash of the same story with the same stupid team rocket team galaxy team

space balls team whatever that are just stupid and fucking ignorant and they have no good plan or no good concept of what things is if they spent one second looking up information they wouldn't be so goddamn stupid that part yeah totally get it and i've been totally burnt on pokemon games for a while my counter not that i'm supposed to but my counter mark would be you know you know what i don't care about fucking space marines and orcs whose imaginations bring things to life because they believe it's real and hundreds of books and fed no but my point is it's fair i think it's good this is a good right for you to get points because this is a hill that i personally i know i know my point is you went from the games are basically ea sports games where every new Pokemon is like, it's different because the Pokemon's real fucking big this time.

Uh, yeah, that was, I think that was a game. That is legitimate. You know, that was a mechanic in one of them. That's a legitimate criticism. You went on to like, I don't care about the monsters themselves. The new ones, I grow up. That whole thing is like, I don't think that's legitimate. People can like whatever they want.

You like Warhammer 40k. I don't have the stomach for warhammer it's too much there's too much shit there's too much lore i respect that it's huge this huge universe of this cool all these cool things and different races and factions doing all this crazy it's too much for me but that doesn't mean i think that you're stupid for liking it it is as childish or anyway as juvenile maybe not childish because it's more dark and serious and but like it's as juvenile as pokemon is in terms of what it's about and that it's about a you know a fantastical reality that doesn't exist you can like that if you want but that's different than the fact that the pokemon games themselves in large part have been iterative with incremental changes and effectively the same game

re-released re-scanned year after year with newer and stupider pokemon in every new edition i like your first hill your second hill you're on your own but this really bumpy second hill definitely but if you speak ill of the emperor oh yeah and his glorious angels. The angels of death will descend upon you and they will wreak hellfire. Frank's space marines from the 43rd planet and the gray ore system will fly over here through their magical

space time whale carcass ship. I don't fucking care, man. There's too much shit in Warhammer. No, no, that's Dune. That's everything that Warhammer 40k has stolen because i will fully admit that i watched the dune movie i hadn't watched the original movie i haven't read the books which i am going to i just haven't had the time and just every single word that they said i'm like oh no oh no warhammer 40k stole oh navigate oh no

oh no the oh emperor oh god Emperor. Oh, God, no. Just like literally everything has been stolen from Dune. And I fully recognize that. And man, most of the books are just like inane bullshit. But every once in a while, I feel the light of the Emperor inside of me. Uh-huh, yeah. I feel it. That's a good hill though, because Pokemon is a tough one.

You know what? Since we're talking about it, can I just say, I still don't get the whole card collecting thing i understand collecting things i collect things in my own way on my own stuff but the crazy prices the obsession with pack openings and stuff i feel like i missed that i don't know how i missed the boat on that but i feel like everybody loves that shit except for me go don't get it go deeper it's look i played card games when i was younger i played magic the other a fair amount and i went to shows and i bought cool cards from older sets i had a couple cards from like third set i forget the terminology but like the third main set of cards they released i had some really really cool old cards that were like not legal for whatever tournament play but i

just had them and they were fun i get that that because like I use the decks, right? Then you're like, I'm building this deck. I got this new card. It kind of changes the dynamic. I want to maybe tweak what I have in this deck or I'm trying to achieve a certain thing. So I'm trying to find these. But like collecting cards to have in books or having sleeves stacked up in boxes, maybe you have some on display.

Like I'm sure real, real serious collectors probably have tens of thousands of cards, who knows? And so maybe a hundred of them, a couple hundred are on display somehow, but like, what's the point of having a collection where you can't even see it and you don't use it for anything. Yeah.

I understand they have value, but that's not collecting. That's investing all of these bros who are buying, you know, old unopened packs and like trying to pull a foil Charizard that's worth $300,000. That's not collecting because they like the cards. That's investing. And I think a lot of people who do it are collecting because they're interested.

But what the hell is the point of that? You just have boxes and boxes of cards and sleeves sitting somewhere that aren't really worth the financial amount of money. You never look at them. You don't use them. Nobody that I ever have known in my entire life has played pokemon it's a card game with rules and a system but like how i've never seen that happen ever i've also never seen anyone play pokemon and i had pokemon cards so like it's just a collection of shit in your closet ultimately yeah gar has played

it he's gone to like tournaments and played it but i've never personally seen it or played it myself that's fascinating. I didn't even know that that happened, honestly. So Bob, your hill is that card collecting in general. You don't understand and don't like. Yeah, collecting thousands of anything is like too much for it to be a worthwhile collection. If you collect 10,000 movies on DVD and VHS,

there's no way in hell you've watched all of them even a single time. But you can get the super secret rare version of the same card that does the same thing but has different colors but that's the thing you have that special one and that's something you collect it has value because there's not nine million of them in the world there's a few thousand or ten thousand of them or something i get collecting things and if you collect cards for their rarity and you only have collect cards and maybe you have 500 or a thousand cards and all of them are special or at least most of them are special but like what you are spending so much money on all these cards and then they you don't do anything with them it's crazy and people do with all kinds of stuff people

do it with like uh you know ceramic things and cds or vinyl or like i said dvds is a huge one like there's all these things people collect i don't completely understand collecting something because you like them it's that like gamblers mentality though it's like when you play a mobile game and you like you know a lot of mobile games the gameplay actually sucks and is boring as hell but as soon as you get enough currency to do one of those multi summons and you see that rainbow come through and you know you're getting an ssr or legendary or something it's like oh my god and then like you go to look at your collection and all of the collection things are lit up because

you now have them all you've completed it there's just something in our brains that like makes us feel good in that like brief moment don't say us yeah no this us don't say us that if that's it if that's the motivation i don't have that yeah 100 don't understand that at all what you're saying is it's like gambling and being addicted to gambling is something for which there are rehab clinics oh yeah no it's bad it's bad saying it's not a good thing it's an addiction yes no i'm agreeing with you it's expensive and it's it does agreeing with you while making it sound appealing but i was totally agreeing with you trying to make it sound better but you're highlighting i guess exactly the thing i find fascinating and bad about it as someone who enjoys summoning on different mobile games and seeing

those things happen i totally know it's bad every time i'm like oh god if i just spend ten dollars no but if i spend ten dollars i know i'd get it oh god i feel it coming i know it's coming next pull next pull baby i'm not gonna get that and i just i feel like i want a hedge or something i'm not that asshole who's like you shouldn't like this you can do what you want there are so many streamers and and content creators and stuff who publicly post about you know and they make money off the content but if they weren't doing the content they might still be spending thousands tens of thousands of dollars on all this stuff it's like gambling you're spending the money it's not coming. It's very unlikely it's going to come back. It just seems like a bad thing

to get tunneled down into. And it spirals off. You do Pokemon pack openings, but that's not enough anymore. So you start opening like Yu-Gi-Oh! or you start opening whatever. There's new things. It seems like a version of gambling.

And it seems like it's unhealthy for people to be spending so much time and money on something that gives very little back often all right that's fair i'm gonna get so much hate for my pokemon and dark souls takes on fucking i don't know i'm waiting for some uh genshin and zelda defenders to come after me we're all burning today i mean that's the point of the episode right we're dying on this hill and everyone listening at home we're not wrapping up the episode yet because we still have more to go but i want to put this out there i or bob or wade is going to create a thread on the distractible subreddit where you guys post your hills that you

would die on and this is very important to remember for people upvoting things on this you are not going to downvote things that you disagree with you are going to upvote if you disagree with it. That's the point. We want to get the most controversial hills to die on at the top. We want to know what it is. And I'm thinking that if there are enough good ones there, we do a follow-up episode of what our listeners' hills to die on and whether we agree or disagree with that hill okay so everyone the subreddit is reddit.com slash r slash distractible i will not be the one making it because i don't even have a reddit account so either myself or bob will make it or someone one of the moderators on distractions someone will make it and it will be pinned at the top and until the next time i record it may be a while but we will come back to it we

want to know what is the hill that you will die on yeah that's a good idea outside of like you know conspiracy theories and racist things we're not that i think conspiracy theories themselves could be a hill but anyway i've got one and i'm going to start it off by talking about how growing up i enjoyed things like dungeons and dragons video games a ton video games are still my life uh reading books basically a lot of the quote-unquote nerdy things i also played basketball my family liked watching football and stuff i liked gym class i like doing all the sporty stuff i like living in the nerd world and the athlete world and i know growing up especially in the athlete world there was a lot of like things said about nerds and how nerds were

looked down upon and this and that and nerds hated the athletes and vice versa and being a part of both worlds it was awkward people that talk about football or sports and the nerd world that say things like sports ball and all this people that talk about the super bowl they're like hey here there's a big bowl this week they are the same fucking idiotic bullies from the nerd perspective as the athlete counterpart that frowned upon them being nerds. And I fucking hate and I cringe and I want to block and unfollow every goddamn influencer, follower, whoever that talks about sports ball and the big bull happening. Oh man, you guys hear about the bull?

I wonder what kind of fruits in it every fucking year those people come out of the goddamn woodwork and i want to stomp on them with fucking metal boots until they're crushed into the ground and gone oh i feel like the whole idea that we've been given free reign here always goes a little too far with each further opinion that we got the opinion is that those people are the worst and they are the equivalent to the jock bullies that were mean to the nerds that is the nerd equivalent talk about sports ball and the sports bowls and all this stupid shit because they know they know what the fucking super bowl is everyone goddamn knows so to say

the big ball this week is just annoying and stupid unnecessary and they think it's cool or funny but it's not it's so goddamn old at this point stop i guess i want to ask a question about so you're you're equating uh bullying and or mocking that jocks do the same kind of thing as mocking people that played like dungeons and dragons it's like okay go roll your dice little nerd go throw your big ball in your sports game it's the same kind of bullshit and it just makes someone who enjoys that feel bad as someone who likes nerdy stuff how you're hearing athletes talk down on them sucked because i had friends on both sides of that growing up and now i enjoy sports and i live in a nerdy world and i do a nerdy career and hearing people on this side mock people that enjoy sports and stuff is equally as bad and it's painful and i hate it i hate it just as much as i hated it the other way growing up i maybe it means something different to you or maybe i get i have

different interactions than you do but the amount of bullying that i received bullying was the strong one was the wrong okay mockery which which was hurtful that i received because i grew up a fairly athletic kid i played a lot of team sports uh all through like until high school uh through high school and i received a lot because i was always in the games i was always in the band i was always hanging out with friends who were in the nerdy stuff i received that a lot me, it's not equivalent the way that I feel like I see, and maybe I see it differently. The people who don't care for sports online who are like, Oh, there's some kind of big bowl as a way of mocking that everyone's

talking about this thing they know nothing about and don't really care about. Obviously they know it exists if they're talking about it, but like, is it directed? Do you see these things directed at people? It's different in that way. Cause it's not, it's not like I'm being individually put down. I would not say I'm being individually put down, but it's the same kind of like, okay, this is the week where I've got to tolerate everyone being like the stupid thing that exists. It's like, I'm just trying to enjoy it.

I'm excited for it. And I've got to deal with everyone on the, my goddamn timeline acting like either they don't know what exists or like sports are so dumb. I don't even get it. Why would you compete? And meanwhile, they're going and playing fucking League of Legends in a competition of esports. And it's like, OK, well, fuck you. First of all, it's just the same kind of like not being allowed to enjoy things.

It's like, why do I have to sit here and tolerate people just not allowing you to enjoy something? Because either they don't, they've never given it a chance. They don't understand it. or they're just finally like in the position of power it's like now i have the power over the athletes and i can put them down for enjoying what they enjoy it won't be me now and to me it's like the two wrongs don't make a right argument it's i just i hate it i hate when people put down people that enjoy nerdy stuff i hate when people put down sports stuff i hate hate it both. And especially around the time of the Super Bowl, the amount of times I see sports ball or whatever bowl pun joke people want to make.

And it's just gotten so old and it just infuriates me at this point. I am actually on Wade's side, but less about the bullying. I don't really care about that. I mean, I care about bullying in general, but just like in this case, there's something about it where like a jock or some super sports fan is annoying sometimes. Yeah, 100%. The moment someone utters sports ball, and I am not a sports guy.

It's the most annoying thing in the world. It's the flipping attitude. I don't even care if you don't care about it. Why are you doing this to pretend to not care? It's just like, as soon as they say sports ball i'm just like what what like it's just like it's so weirdly annoying i get it or it's fake the fakely ignorant like uh you guys hear about the big doritos bowl this week and what is that all about it's like okay yeah you're well man here's a Go fuck yourself with it. I'll give you two points for this. And, you know, it's a good segue to my new... I'm not going to...

I'm not going to... Mark has a podcast called Go Sports Ball. No, because it was a thing when, you know, when we started talking about it, of course, people were like, oh, fucking sports ball. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong with you?

What is wrong with you? Like, because I'm not going to take that. But it's fine. I give two points. That's a confusing one for me. I've gotten very passionate this episode. I have feelings about it, but I don't have strong feelings either way. And I'm just sort of taken aback at how strongly you feel about it. I can't explain what my thing is.

I think part of it's because I've got such a deep connection into both cultures. My family was very athletic. My dad, my uncle, they had sports scholarships. My dad passed away when I was very young. My family was very athletic. My dad, my uncle, they had sports scholarships. My dad passed away when I was very young. My grandparents are all gone. And I have like these distinct memories of them enjoying football and things. And like, I've gotten to feel like I'm closer to them by watching it throughout the years. And maybe it feels like a personal attack almost because it's like tarnishing some of my memories with my family by hearing people just mock things I enjoy. Conversely, I've built an entire career and

life and friendships on nerd culture. And it's like hearing people bash mock things I enjoy. Conversely, I've built an entire career and life and friendships on nerd culture. And it's like hearing people bash, that makes me equally angry. But I think I just accepted the fact that a lot of athletes are assholes. And I was like, well, you know, at least on this side of things, maybe things will be better.

And just learning that there's assholes on both sides of it having to accept that fact maybe hits me harder because it's like, okay, well now we have the egotistical, arrogant fucking nerd people that are here bashing shit on the other side because I guess it makes them feel better too it just annoys me it just hits a nerve immediately yeah i don't even care about the history of it i just find it i find it it's just annoying yeah anyway all right we're getting closer to the end i think we got time for maybe like a quick hill you know these hills we're building here we got one more quick hill that we

can construct before the stampede of angry people come into distractible hq and rip us lymphoma i'm really bringing down the hell's fire i think with this one i don't know if it'll be any more than the previous ones okay this is another one of a case where i i happen to think something uh subcultural phenomenon is overrated and not nearly as good as everyone hypes it up to be maybe it's just that I have a bunch of people in my life, friends who are really big fans of this or whatever. The Office. Oh, no. Steve Carell and The Office.

I love, in general, I have enjoyed Steve Carell. I think he's funny. I think he has a wide range. He's a very good, like, actor, comic actor. He's a very funny guy. And I've watched the office start to finish i have uh and it is funny there are entire episodes where the whole concept the high level concept is great the jokes are great it's funny on a lot of levels in a lot of ways but people

talk about the office like it is the greatest comedic like sitcom show that's ever existed like it's the funniest thing like if they had to pick one thing to watch that was that one comedy thing in their life for the rest of their life it would be the office and it just fucking isn't so much of that show is painful so uncomfortable that i i watched it start to finish i think i watched it more than once like i started re-watching it at some point and we sort of faded off and didn't watch the whole thing i had to get up and leave the room because it's not funny it's fucking awkward and to some people that's funny i get that that's a kind of humor but that fact that so much of it revolves around steve carell's character just being a dumb asshole

piece of shit and making other characters uncomfortable and that sometimes it's funny because it's it's well written and it's thoughtful or it's commenting on something sometimes he's just really fucking awkward and it's not funny people find it funny because it's awkward but it's not comedic it's just awkward that's's not necessarily comedy. Making awkward situations is not funny to me. Funny, awkward situations. Sure. A lot of The Office, very funny. But I think saying that it's one of the greatest of all time when it has just filled with terrible, awkward situations where the dialogue kind of dies off or like stuff doesn't land because it's just awkward and that's it. It makes me angry because I feel like the office gets all this love and praise and i

just don't think it's that good it's good it's fine but it's not that good i applaud you because this one is very bold i know and it will definitely get some kickback however i have an accessory hill that i'm gonna stick on the side of your hill pile on get on there in the office, Jim is the fucking worst. Oh, he's miserable. I fucking hate everything he does. He's a bully. The entire relationship between him and Pam, the lead up to it, people that think it's romantic and stuff. It's creepy.

Sometimes like the lines that he crosses to engage with him while she's engaged to another guy. Yeah. And just like i can ignore that because okay they're happier together it was made whatever his relationship with dwight he is the fucking worst yeah and he never gets called out for it no he never gets like uh repercussions for all of the hell that he puts dwight through like he is the worst actor john krasinski i'm fine with i got another problem like he seems fine he seems cool people people have a disassociation with like actors and their characters i'm talking about jim the character

jim the character is the worst should never be applauded like him and his stupid look at the camera like the way dwight made fun of it is mug face exactly i hate him i hate him i will never like him and anyone that does like him is wrong that's it i'm glad you brought that up because that's another big thing for me i know that dwight is supposed to be like just inhumanly ridiculous like he's so insane he's not he reminds me of me and my friends we were not as unhinged as he is at times but he's the guy who everyone else looks at as an absolute weirdo who the cool kids pick on because he's interested in different stuff beat farming is a surrogate for video games dungeons and dragons whatever you might want it's you know like his personal interests are he does ridiculous shit it's over it's dramatized for the show he is me and my friends when we were kids and that's a

jim is the bully like that's the exact shit that whole storyline and like dwight gets moments and like he he is a whole character it's not like he's just a just a joke but that whole interaction in the dynamic around him i hate that that reminds me a lot of being bullied as a kid. And it looks a lot like bullying that happens modernly. Like, yeah, you're dead on with that. Jim is terrible. And a lot of the people in The Office who, you know, look up to Jim and think he's great or whatever. It's a complicated show, but it's bad.

They're bad. I've only ever seen a handful of episodes of The Office. I've not seen like a full season or all of it. I've enjoyed the episodes I did see, but I never felt like i needed to go back and watch all of it i never got the inclination of like man this is good i want to go finish this i remember watching like a couple episodes of supernatural like season three or something with our friend jesse and i was like dude i'm gonna watch all of this and i binged through like all the three or four seasons that were out at that time or whatever it was and i really loved it the office it was like all right a couple jokes landed and it's like that's pretty funny

i was enjoyable like i and i wouldn't mind if i was hanging out with somebody and they were watching this but i never felt the inclination to go out of my way to watch all of it from what i've seen and now i don't know if i want to but i mean don't do it i mean honestly i'm glad i watched it yeah it's a fine show yeah it's just not the funniest show that's ever existed. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're getting close to the end here.

I just want to sneak in one more hill I'll die on that reminds that I was reminded of because of that is in Dragon Ball Z, Goku is a boring character. Vegeta is far more interesting. And anyone that likes Goku over Vegeta is dumb, in my opinion. I'm skewed because I like Dragon Ball Z abridged versions of the characters a lot. You can't count. And I think Goku's great in a bridge. Goku's even worse in a bridge.

Goku is so much worse. Oh, I know. That's why it's funny. I think Vegeta definitely gets the short end of the stick in almost every different part of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and so on and so forth. Yeah. Because like, spoilers, I guess, from a long time ago, the Majin Buu saga, Vegeta has this uh different part of dragon ball dragon ball z and so on and so forth yeah because like spoilers i guess from a long time ago the majin buu saga vegeta has this moment where he like finally like

embraces his son and like talks about his love of like his kid and his wife and all this stuff and then he like blows himself up to defeat majin buu and it's like this huge emotional scene of like finally like this character coming from being like the biggest dick to like having a heart and like changing and he blows up and literally the next episode boo puts himself back together vegeta's an angel or whatever in dead world and it's just like the whole thing means absolutely nothing so that goku can come back and kick his ass and it's just like that's what it always who always has to win the fight that's what it always is it's the worst that he always has to win the fight vegeta deserves some wins yeah exactly when the movie the return of frieza came out and you know vegeta was fucking kicking ass

of the person that destroyed his home planet and killed his old family he's right there kicking ass oh no reset time so goku can take him out okay anyway so stupid. I hate Goku as a character. Just dumb. Anyway, that'll wrap it up for this. We have probably lost all of our listeners. Oh yeah, everyone's fat now. Yeah, but that's the point. This episode is the hill we will die on.

Yeah, exactly. That is the point of this episode. If you disagreed with us, that was the point. And everyone has a hill that they will die on. Go to the subreddit, write down what it is without fear of being repercussed by it. Well, okay, look, I can't stop everyone, but we're going to try to be agreeable. And if not understanding, at least not attacking people for their opinion, because I have opinions that i agreed with with

bob and wade here and we were all able to walk away from it amicably at least while we're recording while we're recording yes so i'm gonna tally up the points here uh boom in third place wade with a negative one oh that's right i forgot i lost a lot of points, hell yeah. In second place is me, oddly enough. Oh, okay. With five points. No, I agree with this system, I agree so far, sounds great. Yeah, Bob sweeping it in first place with 13 points. Yeah.

Crushed it. Alright. Oh, I'm sorry, Wade, you had one point. You actually got into the Bosnians. Oh, baby! Yeah. That counts me as a winner in my book. Yeah.

So, congratulations, Bob. You really swept it with some really spicy hills. Oh, yeah, baby. It's real spicy. I can't wait for the next topic Bob spicily hosts. What will be the subject? I'm gonna get chased off the internet for some of those takes, I'm pretty sure. Uh, me too, me too, me too.

Me too. Would you like to give an acceptance speech maybe one more thing to get people wrong this is the most terrifying victory i've ever had because we all know what happened last time i had to host an episode um i'll do i'll do i'll do better i'll do it better this time probably what do you mean seeing your moments part two or whatever it was called was great. Yeah. And I think that soft serve is the best kind of ice cream and anyone else is wrong. Oh, man. That's a rough hill to end on.

That's spicy. All right. Wade, loser hill, you want to dig your hole deeper? Yeah. A lot of things that would otherwise be enjoyable are ruined by the horrible fans that they have. I think you're right. Big agree. Strong agree.

All right. I have no interest in watching something because the fans just ruin it for me and fuck you all. And that's why he lost because he has agreeable opinions. Too agreeable. You're a good person. Therefore, you lose. You'd be worse like me. Yeah.

Thank you, everybody, so much for listening. We have merch available wherever that may be. You can find Wade wherever he is, Bob wherever he is, or you can find all of us on our YouTube channel, which we do have now. Animations are on the way. Thank you everyone so much. Go to the subreddit to look for that post

that's definitely there and we remember to do. We'll probably only post it when this comes out, so we'll got to remember when this actually comes out to do that. Thank you. And we'll see you next week. What do you mean? We recorded this today.

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