Distractible - Hot Takes, Cold Truths

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

Chef Wade Ramsay orders competitors Mark and Bob to the kitchen to cook up some cold-cut truths and sizzlin' hot takes. This episode is brought to you by vitaminwater. Grab a vitaminwater today. ... Get set up quick and connect to their fast speeds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Distractable is presented to you by Amazon Prime. Whatever you're into, it's on Prime. And I'm into a lot. You can't look at my order history. I won't let anyone. A lot of the show, I think, comes directly off Amazon. I think we all got our coins of fairness on there. Where'd you get your stacks of paper, you scribble on, Wade?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Amazon. Whatever it is, Prime helps you get more out of whatever passions you're into or getting into. head to amazon.com slash prime and follow your obsession wherever it goes good evening gentle listeners or watchers and welcome to distractible this episode when he wade acts antediluvian after being cut up then asks for evocative opinions meticable mark misses games discusses true automobiles plays politics with trains cat contagions and unveils
Starting point is 00:00:55 AI artists. Bludgeoning Bob, whips Waymo, Switches Mario, Nose's moon shoes, and crappy ocular examinations. From glass gifts to Nessie. It's time for hot takes, cold truths. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Distractable Where I am here And keep it on camera one on me On me And are my co-hosts are here
Starting point is 00:01:33 They've been here this whole time I was here I never left frame I was just turning on my beautiful light To be fair I didn't know what you were doing So I was covering for you Guess who's in Guam Me
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh Editors wait Welcome to the show where one of us hosts other do to compete for points. I'm joined as always by my co-host, Mark and Bob. Hello. Hello. How's things? Pretty good. Pretty good. You know how they are. Yeah, but not everyone else does. It's been a few days. Okay, I know things. Yeah, you've been holding on to a small talk for like three episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:10 No, and I got articles that's talking about, but I wanted to talk about this thing again. Remember this do, Hickey? Yes. So, someone on the subreddit posted a TikTok that someone else made by some of the name of Connor the Weller and they made a device that's a this basically and it's a knob and three buttons right I asked for two but it's got three right so I ordered it I don't have it yet but I did order it now I will leave a I will review it I will use it I'll try it and I will bring back my actual honest opinion about it because all I want is to replicate what the uh da Vinci resolve speed editor does with the wheel that's all i want and so we'll
Starting point is 00:02:55 see i just wanted to point that out i bought it it'll be shipped eventually and if it's crap i'll say it if it is i'll say it i'll say it well they better give you a good one then they better make it special just for mark or he'll say it yep exactly just for me anyway i have more but i'll i don't want to get all the points oh okay i can get points oh man you're crushing it right now you have a million percent more points than Bob. The reason I turn my light on is because I feel guilty about it,
Starting point is 00:03:24 but possibly for the first time ever, this is... Yeah, I should turn that setting off on my camera. No, it's a great setting, man. What are you trying to show us? You got to learn to do the political gestures, yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:03:42 oh yeah, like if flight attendants. Or two fingers for like the, you know, the Disney people. That would probably still do it. I don't even know. This, this is, this, this, this, what the fuck is my hand going? This is real stained glass. Actual factual stained glass.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's very heavy. I have it up on a very heavy duty mount and I have its own special light on it because someone made that for me a long time ago. Like in 2017, I got it. And it has moved across the country with me because I got it in North Carolina. it moved to California, it moved back to Ohio. I have kept it safe. I built its own travel case for it,
Starting point is 00:04:23 like out of a sheet of wood with like special bracing and then I pack it in and it has survived and it is awesome. And I've never had a good way to like have it on the wall behind me before because it's heavy as fuck. But it's real stained glass. It is super cool. I got sent one of those too. I've got one upstairs.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's a red with like a black W like Minecraft style from the old days. I think the same person made them. No, no, Bob, you're special. Don't let him get away from your achievement here, Bob. I think my only achievement is it's only slightly broken. There are a couple panels of the bigger panels that are a little bit cracked, but it's got character, you know? That is really, really cool looking, though. It is cool.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Stinglass is tough. Amy's done a little bit of stained glass. She's done a lot of arts and crafts. I've never tried in the world, so I don't actually know how tough it is. But she says it's pretty tough. You have to be very careful, obviously, with cutting and all the things. It's an art like anything else. does take a lot of skill. And I see like curves in there. That's probably tough.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah, I mean, it's my, the black part is like my whole logo. And it's, yeah, it just really worked out. It's been great. It looks like if you held your hand up like this, you could perfectly make the square around. Like this, sir. Yeah, I might go ahead and turn that setting off. Yeah. You get a point for playing along with me. Well, do I have news? Florida woman caught trying to carry turtles for airport security and her bra. The turtles were in her bra or she was in her bra. The turtles were in her bra. She was in her bra and also the turtles. And there's a comment here that says, I like tittles. That's the whole reason I wanted to bring that one up. That's it. We all like tittles. Okay. So the real thing, in L.A., there's, well, actually,
Starting point is 00:06:07 probably at a lot of play. I think actually, Austin, there's more of these. Are there any Waymoes in Cincinnati? They're everywhere now. All over L.A., there's Tons of them. Like if, if you go to, I think it is Culver City where there's a lot of them and over on like near Santa Monica, I try never to leave the house. So I don't really go out this much. Context, Waymo's are self-driving autonomous taximobiles, right? Right. Yes. I forgot to mention that. I don't see any in Ohio. Yeah, there's a bunch of cameras on them and they're completely driverless. Like no one's in the in the driver's seat, right? I don't remember any votes to allow that and I'm so curious how that approval process works I'm assuming there was an
Starting point is 00:06:50 approval process because you need a license to drive and corporations or people as we all know sure sure what they did was they pulled all the Waymo drivers and nobody objected Mr. Mo got a license and just bequeath that to all the ways I'm just I'm so curious because I've seen the data and I don't doubt that someday it'll be very clear that like automated cars are safer and they work i wish we could have trains because those that shits you know also but minority report it was cars it is fascinating that this is not just like a concept apparently it's just here and a business the waymo the company is just doing it and you can have this and it's on the streets that everyone else is on that we all share, and it's happening now.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So I'm just like super curious about how and why. And the article that drew my attention to it is also APD, I don't, that must be Austin Police Department, says court system cannot process citations for Waymo. So they're getting tickets or they're getting citations somehow, but the system just isn't built for it. Because like a cop pulls it over. I think it actually stops if it sees police lights.
Starting point is 00:08:06 but a cop gets out and what do they do? Like, what happens? Who signs the other side of the ticket? Who do they give it to? The guy riding in it? Like, certainly not. I wouldn't think so. Yeah, it's just like, I don't think that there's any system in place for it.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Why is Waymo breaking the law? Shouldn't it be programmed to follow the law? I mean, realistically, like, even if you follow every law to the letter, things will happen where it's like you something occurred and you were in the wrong and maybe there's a citation. Like, I don't think Waymo's are going 20 miles an hour of the speed limit or anything like that. But just like everyone else, there's stuff that they do that they get tickets for. I think that's interesting. I mean, the boring answer is these were all approved by, like in California, it was approved by the CPUC, California Public Utilities Commission, basically because I think that's the same licensing body that, like, allows taxi companies to get medallions or however it works.
Starting point is 00:09:02 but I'm dubious that anyone here has done any actual, like, safety research that means anything to me because this is one of those situations where, I would guess, the government agency that approved this stuff talked to Waymo and was like, how safe are they? And Waymo was like, oh, safe. Big safe. Yeah, look, six, safe. And the commission was like, okay, six, that's pretty good. You can do it. But they're, like, I'm with you, and that I think it's a fascinating slash terrifying that this is just a thing that exists now. They're just our driverless cars that are not on rails or in, they're in limited areas, but like the area in Los Angeles is like 120 square miles or something approximately.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Like, it's a shit, it's large, lots of spaces, lots of places. And what's even more concerning beyond this is I know that Tesla and whoever is in charge of that company, Mr. Slah. Mr. Slah? Yeah, of course. Sorry, Mr. Slah, wants to get Tesla's out on the roads doing this thing. And as a guy who used to own a Tesla, I don't anymore for anybody wondering, for silly reasons. That car was terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Its autopilot was terrible. It got worse the longer that I drove it. And generally, the car got worse, the longer that I drove it. And I had access to the full self-driving beta. Like I could I did not use that stuff I would not trust it I don't trust it
Starting point is 00:10:35 I didn't even I barely started trusting the actual autopilot that just does the highway version of it that and they have way less cameras and they tout that as a feature like oh you got so much fewer cameras than the Waymos do because Waymos have a big like LiDAR sensor
Starting point is 00:10:51 that is constantly gone Yeah Waymos look ridiculous they have a whole array of shit strapped on top and on the sides and stuff Yeah, that's the question, though. How do they handle terrible conditions? Sorry, go ahead. They don't.
Starting point is 00:11:03 They don't handle bad conditions? Do they pull over? Do they just like, we can't see the line. We know it's there. I don't know about the Waymos, but the Teslas don't, for sure. No, as soon as the weather goes bad, the whole system shuts out, it goes, Bluie! I can't see!
Starting point is 00:11:16 I can't see! Take over! And then it lets go really violently. Yeah, but no waymo, what the hell would happen? Well, they have a lot more stuff. I would imagine they could handle rain and things a little bit better, but probably there's a limit. Yeah, I mean, if it's perfectly clear and you can see all the lines well, but like if the road's not painted or there's construction or something is not ideal, it's like, do they know how to hell they handle stuff like? I know it's complicated for you, but AI, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:45 You got it. Yeah, you're right. You just feed the camera feed into the driving AI. The trick is you can only feed it good driving. We accidentally put some accidents into the training. that we put in there? They loved crashing for a little bit. That was, that was scary. But now it's all good.
Starting point is 00:12:07 They got that out of there. Great. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I haven't heard of a huge uptick in, I've heard of Waymos being an absolute fucking menace, but not in terms of like causing accidents or hurting people in a serious way. I've heard of Waymos being a complete fucking menace in terms of just casually blocking areas and also being completely unable to navigate things like.
Starting point is 00:12:29 parking lots and getting just like stuck to where the thing is like, oh, I can't go forward. Well, can't go backward. Guess I stay here now and that's it. Is it set up like a taxi? Like you get in the back? It's like Uber, but there's no people. And it's just a regular car with all their sensors and shit. So yeah, it's like a regular car with the driver's seat and everything.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But the person's in the back and if something does go wrong, they can't even take control of it. I heard this actually. This is from social media, so probably false. I heard they are, Waymo is starting with a new kind of vehicle. So mostly what they've had so far as like SUVs to where it's a pretty normal looking like SUV, get in the back type of deal. I heard that they're starting with a new kind of thing that looks like kind of a minivan, but the front seats actually swivel like they do in like camper vans, right? So it's almost like the like the Westworld thing where you have the taxi that's just kind of a sitting room where you all sit and you can.
Starting point is 00:13:27 face each other and talk while the car probably gets you somewhere safely hopefully they had those in europe i think when we were in france we took a taxi or uber or something somewhere that had like the seats face it wasn't the front seats that faced each other but the back seats were like two face this way the other two faced each other so it was like normal two front seats then the ones right behind it were like lined up back to back but facing the back which was kind of cool but a little scary i want to say i'm not against self-driving cars as a principle i'm not and i think that waymos are probably, like, if you look at the data, I think that they are the best of all the people that are trying to make autonomous cars in terms of accident rates and, like, you know, errors
Starting point is 00:14:04 and issues. And if you compare it to human drivers, who can be really bad, that's usually the argument. It's like, the average human driver is way worse in terms of statistical crashes and incidents than the autonomous cars. I think that there is an argument to be made for that. And honestly, like, I wouldn't be opposed to never having to drive again if I had to. But, at the same time there are still those bad drivers on the road alongside all these things happening so it's just uh there was a kid the other day man he swerved would have hit me i saw him at the last second and kind of had to swerve over a little bit and then hit my break he zoomed in front of me texting on his fucking phone
Starting point is 00:14:42 and then like i had to slam my horn like dude what the fuck didn't acknowledge didn't do anything he swerved across a whole other lane passed where the exit ramp entrance was supposed to be cut somebody else off still just texting. He made it. I'll see what you're complaining about, Grandpa. I like being alive and not mangled. I don't understand it. Maybe this is like old man shaking stick at kids,
Starting point is 00:15:04 but like... The fuck. Yeah, you are old man shaking. I mean, Judge, sir, you're great. Yeah, wait, whose episode is this? I don't forget it. I definitely didn't. Do you think it's actually safer in a car if your seats facing the back? So that way, if there's like a head on, you're like
Starting point is 00:15:22 already against the headdress? I think, Generally, yes, that is safer, but it's scarier. And also more prone to, like, motion sick issues, I think it's the big thing. I do get motion sticks. I wonder, I've never ridden on that side of a car or anything, but I wonder if it... But, like, that's the optimal way, I think, to take an accident. Assuming you have full support all the way up to behind your head, it's way better than getting flung forward on your body and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Interesting. I mean, I'm also not a put... Like, I like driving, I guess, but, like, maybe they'd have, like, I don't know, just the speedways are kind of things you can take a car to and race it around now where you can still go drive your car or you can drive around the neighborhood but like for highways and shit i am not opposed to an AI taken over one day whenever it's actually competent enough to do it you know what that's called trains i think mark was on something i think i'd be like the point of a car is you can drive it to exactly the place you need to go because there's not a train that goes
Starting point is 00:16:16 there but if you want a big mass transit solution where there's one big corridor that sort of goes in and out of big city areas and out. You know what that's called, where you don't have to drive it and it's really safe and it's all automated. That's called trains. And they have those in lots of places except the United States for some fucking reason. I mean, the argument is that it's, the United States is fucking huge and we do have trains, but also, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh, my God. when you actually, when you, and sure, it's probably, people could categorize as propaganda, but when you look at videos of how public transit is in Japan, I've been to Korea, public transit, fucking amazing, you can go anywhere, anywhere on public transit. And yes, smaller countries, but that's still a city, and our cities don't have that, except for New York. And they complain about that shit all the time, because they underfund it. And it's just like, oh, it could be great.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Cincinnati was building a subway system and I think it got stopped and now there's like a dance club or something down there but they were like people don't want this and it's like oh they didn't stop it to build a club
Starting point is 00:17:28 well no they built a club down there after they stopped it yeah yeah yeah and that's one of many many stations tons all over Cincinnati they could start it back up again you know they could they could start it back up again sure could think of how many jobs that would create
Starting point is 00:17:43 that's the thing people are going to cost of money I'm like where do you think that money's going got to buy lots of dirt It goes right into the dirt. They actually build the railroad out of money. You just shove money into the earth and it shits out more dirt for you and it's gone forever. It's the one thing that some people that complain about is like, it's not a hand out. It's putting money towards work that needs to be done that will then allow more work to happen and if more efficiently and it will be great for everybody and it'll reduce traffic.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You hate traffic and it'll be awesome. But my freedom. You can still drive. There's stuff in play here that you don't understand. I don't understand. Nobody understands. That's why we can't do it. Nobody knows, Mark.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's too complicated. Name one place that has good public transportation. You can't. There are no examples that we could look at of successful public transportation. It always fails. Always. That's why they always keep tearing them down when they build them. That's why any place you've looked that puts it a good one,
Starting point is 00:18:43 they just get rid of it right after. what's this show about that's my job to know and you to find out now are we done with the small talk oh I have more small talk this is about another thing that people are well people are not that angry about it but so we talked about I think previously
Starting point is 00:18:58 I got a switch to and when last I mentioned it I hadn't been able to use it at all I used it I was excited to play the new Mario Kart game because I was like cool I like Mario Kart it is possibly my favorite Mario Kart game and possibly one of my favorite games Nintendo has put out in recent memory.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And that might be sacrilegious to Nintendo people because there are games that Nintendo's put out that are really good that are just not my thing. But the open world exploration in the new Mario Kart game is so fucking cool. All the courses exist on one big map. And you can just go into the map and drive around and do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But there's a bunch of shit to collect. There's a bunch of secret spots to find. there are dozens of skins for all the characters and stuff to unlock which you unlock by driving around and getting food from like fast food joints or food trucks or truck stops along the highway there's so much cool shit to do
Starting point is 00:19:59 it's not like groundbreaking by any means because it's not that different from like a platformer or whatever exploration game but it's really cool that it's like a racing game like that I know like other racing games have had similar features but for Mario car to do it's very unique No, it's, it was surprising because it's really not advertised because it's the same as Mario Card 8. You go into the menu and it's like, do you want to play single player?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Do you want to play? Okay, you want to play a Grand Prix? You want to play a Time Trial? It has all that stuff. But from the main screen, if you just hit like the start whatever plus button and you just go onto the map, you could just start exploring and finding shit. And it's very fun. I thought it was just going to be like, ah, it's like the same, but just new maps is Mario Kart.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Oh, it's way better than less Mario Kart. it's like really good which I'm totally shocked by I just I was surprised Andy and I had like put James to bed and then played it all night and had like a hell of a time and it was like one in the morning
Starting point is 00:20:54 and we were like oh fuck we gotta go to bed oh god awesome super fun I wish I had tape for games one day you'll be your own boss and you can do what you want to do I hope so
Starting point is 00:21:04 it's almost done though right yeah actually I like a people on the suburb my subvert are just sometimes like if it's almost done like he says and what am I
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Starting point is 00:22:23 And I won't ever know I've got a list of topics here And I want to hear hot takes Or cold truths What is it cold truth? Is that just boring? Yeah Oh
Starting point is 00:22:34 Cold truth is just boring truth So if you tell me some cold truth It's like something I didn't know Or is fun, interesting in some way But it's truthful And it's like, okay, there you go. Otherwise, you got to take the hot take stance on the subject. What if it's cold lies?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Is that acceptable? That's not the, nope, cold truths. Hot takes or cold truths. But the hot take could be a lie because that's just an opinion. But if we tell a really intense truth and it gets too hot, that doesn't count. It wouldn't be an opinion if it's truth. Hot take is kind of like your opinion on the matter. But you said it has to be a cold truth, I think is what he's getting at.
Starting point is 00:23:10 What if it's a hot truth? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Yeah. There could be hot truth, maybe. I think it's just the name of the game is hot, take, cold truth, because it's like hot and cold. He thought of the name and then made up a game to fit the name, I think, is what we're experiencing here. I'm totally down with the game. You're damn right, you are.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Because you're playing a better what. All right. Your truths can be any temperature, but they've got to be truths. Your takes are going to be hot takes. I'm going to get so many hot truths in here. You're not going to know what happened. We'll find out. I guess we'll start with a coin flip.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Mark, your heads? Bob your tails. We'll see who goes first. Heads. I'm just glad I got to be included this time. Shut up. I called it. Did I call it? I called it. You did. After I gave you heads, you called heads. All right, Mark, you get to go first.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Hot, take, or cold truth? About the moon landing. It's cold on the moon. It's true. true you know that's a truth it was cold I listen to the rules I play by the rules thank you for sharing that cold truth Bob do you have a hot take or a cold truth on the moon landing uh interesting fact about the moon because the the surface of the moon has no
Starting point is 00:24:36 atmosphere the dirt and particles and the that's all settled on to it doesn't mechanically rub or move or get like blown around by wind or anything. So there is no or there's minimal erosion. So the particulate on the moon is so destructive. They actually had to design the space suits and everything specially to be as rip resistant as possible. And even though they were, I mean, they're on the moon as much as they could be when they landed and they were doing walks and stuff. But the suits that they brought back from being out on the moon like the tread is worn off the shoes the suits are so totally fucked they like barely survived existing because the it's like sand if i don't even know how to explain it but
Starting point is 00:25:24 it's just like it's just like really bad sand you know like really scratchy uh but it just like tears everything up and it's a really particular it's also deep uh i don't know if you ever seen the moon land or in person but those big sticks that they have that go down they had like really long, like, I want to say like four or five foot long rods that like went down into the surface of the moon as like anchors. Because it's all sort of loosely packed
Starting point is 00:25:49 dust. It's fascinating. The surface of the moon and the nature of the particulates, it's fascinating. I hadn't heard about those spacesuits wearing down faster. That's kind of cool. It was a serious problem and they had to really work on, I believe. Nah, that's probably made up. Kevlar maybe
Starting point is 00:26:05 was developed or some sort of ripstop material was developed because they needed something that would survive how abrasive the dust on the moon is. Pretty much everything like that stems from the space age kind of needing these materials. Otherwise, oh, that reminds me of our, oh God, what was that the ginger dead man? Dyrusive. All right, you both went cold. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Bob, you'll be first on this one. Tell me about the DMV, Department of Motor Vehicle. Oh, I know about the DMV. It's cold different things in different places, right? It's the BMV, the Bureau. In Ohio, it's the BMV in California, it's the DMV. The thing about the DMV is, they don't actually have any systems at all. They have fake computers, they have fake cameras, they have fake everything.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You could walk in there and they could just hand you your ID in two seconds and they don't give a shit. The test you take, nobody checks that. The eye exams, they make you take, it's just a bit. Have you seen those machines? it's a joke to make you look stupid. It's a method of control that the government uses to make sure everyone remembers that they have to stand in line and pay the fee and get the little ticket
Starting point is 00:27:20 that says your car is allowed to exist. It's all bullshit. They could mail it to you, but they want you to stand in line. Let me throw in your favor here. I worked with eyes for a long time and checked vision, used aplanation, and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:37 When you see how shitty the machines are at a place like the DMV or BMV that check your vision, they seem like ancient archaic machines that are barely able to determine anything. And if you fail that, you definitely shouldn't have a license. But like I feel like the standard
Starting point is 00:27:53 for having a license should even be higher than what those machines give because it's like the bare minimum vision. It's like, can you see flashing lights in your eye? Yeah. Great, give him a license. He's good. It's like, I, this, maybe a little bit higher.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Anyway, sorry, Bob, I'm going to cut you off, but... It's because it's bullshit. It's because it's nothing. It's because it's a conspiracy, man. They don't check anything. They could just hand you your ID and let you log out the door or just mail it directly to your house like a civilized society would do. But no, it's meant to be torturous and controlling and to hold you down.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I have the spiciest take. We should and should have set an age where you can no longer drive. I'm not even saying there should be a test. No test. If you're over 60, you can't drive anymore. And here's why. Because if that were the case, and it's like written in, it's an amendment, right? Just the no driving for old these amendment.
Starting point is 00:28:50 The old people will vote for better public transit year after year, after year, because they'll be like, I can't drive it in bullshit, but I get it. I understand why. we better have trains, God damn it, and buses. And so they'll vote over and over again. The founding father should have realized that cars were going to be invented, put it into the Constitution, so that it could have been a thing, because obviously, and then we would have trains
Starting point is 00:29:20 because the old people vote way more than anybody else, and it would have been passed by, they only care about that because they're like, I can't get to the store. I can't get to my, the bingo match, whatever old people do. I don't know, you know, all right. The competitive bingo match. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Or Kino or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:29:39 They would have voted. So I say, let's start now, they won't even remember we did it. We'll just tell them all the old people, it was always this way. And they'll be like, oh, I should have voted for that. And then they will. And then we'll have trains. Anything for trains. Anything to get trains.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I think we can all agree that if, you know, some people feel like they're being discriminated against, this is a slippery slope. nothing you're on great it's spicy you're right that's you're getting hotter by the word am i right oh subbrin how hot is it for remark right now look i'm just saying age is a number and that number is important what is the age i i think you might have picked a little bit of a low age there but uh this isn't my take so no no no they i want many years of voting i know that they can do it but if we go too high then they're going to be like, well, some people will be like,
Starting point is 00:30:35 but if we go low enough, it's just like, hey, this is just what it is. You only get 40 years of driving, make the most of it. That's not even retirement age, though. Isn't retirement age going to be like 80 and 83 in the next election? No, you got to get to work still at that point. So you really need the bus. Shouldn't we shrink it from both ends then? That'll really get the youth vote out there.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Raise the driving age to like 25, 30, Or just make it really unbearable To drive at that age Like you have a camera watching you To make sure you're not on your phone You have to have a person in the car with you Until you're like 20 To make it really like uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:31:14 I thought you meant like spikes in the sea The gas like a glass Flame on it It burned your toes Spikes on your steering wheel It makes sure your hands bleed If enough blood doesn't get absorbed They know you're driving with one hand
Starting point is 00:31:26 And they measure your blood alcohol level At the same time Oh it's pretty spicy takes All right DMVs all fake Or we need to take away everyone's license Unless you're specifically like 35 Our age, how conspicuous I feel like I said
Starting point is 00:31:40 Some other things Real spicy, Mark Discriminate against as many as possible Markiplier You can quote him on that about me You can quote me on him Hot takes or cold truths On the battle between
Starting point is 00:31:54 What's better, cats are dogs All right, so This is gonna be a thing Because I read an article Go on I read something, you know, about how cats have a disease that infects people who have cats to make them want cats more. And this is the most bullshit conjecture I might be. I ask to mouth right for misinformation, but I'm going for it.
Starting point is 00:32:24 There is a disease that cats will poop out and you will breathe in and that will be in your brain forever. fur that will make you want cats and also cause other issues, but mostly make you want cats. I'm saying that might be where the whole crazy cat lady or crazy cat guy comes into play. It's cats that have been trying to mind control us this entire time. And I won't be fooled. Chica wouldn't do that to me. I would do anything for her, but that's because I love her. And I'm not mind controlled.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I would just die and or kill for her. That reminds me of the Florida lady who tried to smuggle cats onto a point. plane inside of her brawl? Turtles. No, titty cats. Tittles. Here, tittles. I can't drive, but I can carry you.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Cat disease brain thing. Yep, that'll do it. Toxoplasmosis. And that makes you want more cats? Yeah. Makes sense if you think about it. I don't know whether to mark that done as a hot take or a cold truth. Could be both.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Man, that's a hot, cold take truth. you write it down as is what you believe. All right. Uh, Bob. Mm-hmm. I have a real bombshell for you. They... Both suck.
Starting point is 00:33:44 All of them are bad because of one reason and one reason alone. They're all mortal. If cats and dogs lived longer than people, this really wouldn't be a problem. I would rather have dogs, but... This is basically a problem with all of them. They get old, way faster than us. They get diseases. They get sick.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They need things. And then they leave you. And it's hard to imagine a thing that is more painful and life ruining and disruptive to my entire existence than when Lexi leaves. And it's going to happen unless I die tragically in the near future. That's just how it goes It's a sad truth And it sucks It makes me angry
Starting point is 00:34:36 Just get the family together Holding the grenade We go out as one Oh well I don't know about that man You said you'd do anything for Chica You're taking those words back now are we No I said or I said I would
Starting point is 00:34:47 No I did say and or Okay you're right Yeah okay You got a grenade I'll ship it to you That's my hot take No one is better than anyone Because they all do the same bullshit
Starting point is 00:34:57 Die Die. Die. Cats get to do it at least nine times though, right? That didn't feel as morbid inside my head as it did when I started to say it, but that was really not proud of that. That was a corpse cold take. Boy, I feel like that was, it was hot.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Your temperature differential, I'm still not sure. I need a new thermometer. It was a joke because of them dying. It was a hilarious joke that no one even me laughed at. Everyone felt how funny it was. You need to laugh outside to know how funny something is. You know, if you think about licking something funny, you'll be able to know how that joke tastes. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:35:34 This is a, this one's on brand for us to talk about. Bob, you can delete it off. AI art. Hot takes about AI art. Or cold truths. No, hot takes. Okay. My hot takes are just on point today.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Everyone really likes the hot takes I've been bringing to the table. I can tell. I think AI art is peak. It is better than humanity could ever hope to be. And it's only at 20% of its final form. Everyone makes jokes about how sloppy it is. And you're right. There are tons of issues.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And it's already surpassed anything we could hope to do. Da Vinci, Van Gogh. Those other painters whose names I know but aren't worth mentioning. Nobody's compared to the majesty that is AI art. It's all I look at, I don't even want to see reality anymore. I just look at AI art. Why would you need anything else? Van Gogh is famous for doing art with only one ear.
Starting point is 00:36:31 AI does it with none ears. The fewer body parts, the better the art. That's always been true. The fewer the part, the greater the art. Can I get a point for you saying that? All right, okay, cool. It was about my thing. If anyone gets a point, I should...
Starting point is 00:36:45 I just thought I'd ask. No one else was asking. I thought it was up in the air. I just went for it, you know? Yeah, I can't hurt a guy for asking. I'll give it the Bob for not boldness. Okay, it does hurt me for asking. Okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Whatever. Heard a fair amount for asking. Go figure. I sure did, yeah, okay. All right, anyway, cold truth. Here's the thing about AI art that I want, I hope is encouraging for artists, but maybe not. If you are trying AI art and you're making it, whatever you want to call it, you're making it or not, you'll get bored of it because you don't actually like making art.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And I'm talking to like the AIA art bros out there. The reason people make art in general of many different forms is because it's a journey. journey. And I can't believe that people don't realize. People think, know about the whole the phrase like it's not the destination. It's a journey. They've heard it all their life and they never believed it. But you would believe it if you are on that journey. If you're a person that draws or your person that does art, you do art because it's your passion to do art or you feel at least the spark of passion to do it. There are people that get excited about being able to quote, make art with AI. And that's an infatuation. And they'll get bored of it and they'll stop
Starting point is 00:38:02 because they won't find it to be purposeful in their life because they didn't find it purposeful before. It's not going to make someone so much happier to make it just because you can prompt it and crank it out. They do right now because it's exciting and new and it's getting better with each generation. But the betterness is already slowing down. And so the excitement's going to fall and they'll realize it like, well, I guess there really isn't any value in my life for making this stuff, and they'll fall out of it. Just like everyone who has tried art and didn't pursue it the rest of their life, it's kind of a simple thing. So I think that's just something that we all have to understand. Like, it still has to be used by people and the people that don't actually
Starting point is 00:38:40 like making art aren't going to use it. So maybe there's exceptions, obviously, for everything. But it's not going to replace the number of artists because those artists will still enjoy making art, even if AI art is able to be made. And the people that are proposing, like, ah, this is so much better than all those stupid artists out there, they're not artists before. They're not going to be artists after because they don't like making art. And so that's the, that's the kind of cold reality for people. It's still just a tool.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And, you know, some people are going to like making the tool. And yeah, I'm not saying it's not going to get rid of jobs. That's also the other problem because companies are still going to replace it. Yes. That's the thing. This is about art as a power. passion and art as an art form, you know, making it is important to the human condition. And there's plenty of people that do it for not money already.
Starting point is 00:39:29 So I don't think it's going to stop people from doing it because it's about the journey. That could be a hot take or cold truth. I think it's a cold truth. I missed my mouth. Your nut, exclamation point didn't land. I bet wage writing a point for me missing the peanut in my mouth and not for what I said. 100%. That is true right now.
Starting point is 00:39:51 You got a nut missed point All the words I said anything for that There might be There might be Not now Maybe I already wrote that one down Did you? I did
Starting point is 00:40:03 You got a need to love art point Okay, thank you You happy now Am I happy now You can write that down after They should give a Bob a point For just being content Not questioning my points
Starting point is 00:40:13 He was actually shaking his head That you didn't write it down the whole time Well fuck you both All right Mark here's your prompt toilet paper over under well clearly over if it's the other way it rubs against the wall i don't want that the only way it gets away from the wall is if it's over it's not even like a preference of which one's easier to pull i mean some people have roles that are you know offset or freestanding most of the time it's up against a wall because that's a convenient way to
Starting point is 00:40:41 mount it if it's under it's going to be on the wall and i know that it's not that dirty but it's next to a toilet. It's, I'd rather just be floating in the air, because I don't want to rub the wall, my ass on the wall. I don't want to rub the wall on my ass. Over. No micro paint sticks. No micro, what? It's like plastics, but paint, no paint sticks.
Starting point is 00:41:02 What are we painting? What are you talking about? Bob, what's he talking about? Noams. If the toilet paper rubbed the wall, little micro bits of paint would be on the toilet paper that you'd be putting in your ass. Micro paint flex. All right, anyway, Bob. Cold truth about toilet paper. This is going to be a cold, truth about a lot more things than just toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Just like the debate about whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich, just like the debate about whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza, just like all of these things that everyone brings up and gets all heated about and has all these hot takes on, just couldn't fucking matter less. The reason that it's a debate is because the toilet paper thing is so inconsequential that if you sit down, even in your own home somehow, and you notice like, oh, the toilet paper is on the wrong way for how I would like it to be.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Do you change it? No, you don't. You just use it. And you think to yourself, oh, who put this toilet paper on wrong? And then you just use it. And then you just leave. It's so inconsequential, but you don't even fix the thing that you claim to be so angry about and have such strong opinions about. Does a hot dog taste different if it's a sandwich?
Starting point is 00:42:12 No. No, it doesn't. It tastes like a hot dog. Doesn't really matter at all. Why are you raising your hand, Mark? I was going to say I changed the direction of toilet paper if I can. I also change the direction when it's wrong. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I don't believe you. I think I've done it in your own house, actually. I believe I've done it in your bathroom. In my house? We don't have any sociopaths here, so it's always put on over, but... Maybe not, but I've definitely done it more than many times, actually. I think Molly doesn't care, and she puts it on one way or another. and I'm like
Starting point is 00:42:47 how do you how could you it's like you don't even know who you're living with sometimes yeah but I always flip it the correct way whenever I see it the wrong way anywhere anytime
Starting point is 00:42:56 new topic wait hot take cold truth your wife lover to death perfect human being damn cold truth there except when it comes on the toilet paper a monster with the TP sheets
Starting point is 00:43:08 all right despite you OCD douchebags who are undercutting my point just in an effort to win the game instead of being real about shit right now doesn't matter wait I'm the host I'm not trying to win anything
Starting point is 00:43:22 doesn't matter does to me Bob you get to keep the floor hot takes cold truths the lockness monster I just like the lockness monster but I don't know if I have any good cold truths
Starting point is 00:43:36 about Nessie Hot take Nessie is actually just a very small ankylosaurus No, about that one. Bronchiosaurus? Brontosaurus. A dinosaur that happened to just survive for millions of years for no apparent reason that no one noticed.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And it's not a monster. She's a dinosaur. And everyone should love and respect Nessie because she's the best. I don't know if that's a hot take or a whole truth. Probably the truth. I have a hot take. Lockness monster, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Yeti, all the mythical creatures that you know and love. We probably killed them a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Let's be perfectly honest. There's a reason why there's no human offshoots still alive to this day. It's because we killed them. There's a reason why you don't find any mythical beasts. All the dragons that might or may have existed in the past were killed for sport because that's what we do. And if there was, and if there was a Sasquatch in the woods that was confirmed and was causing a problem for a town, the local police force would have marched arm in arm in a line with their guns straight out, shooting everything. thing in sight. Little Timmy lost in the woods.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Bang, bang, bang, bang. Oh, look a deer. Bang, bang, bang. Bunny, bang. Everyone all mowed down trying to get to Sasquatch. And then the Sasquatch is dead. And with Sasquatch is dying word, I know this is about Lochness, so let's go back a bit. They march into the lake, arm and arm.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Oh, hi, bang, bang, bang. And they're banging away. What language is that? With their Scottish guns. They're Scottish guns. They got to blow into it, you know. You got to inflate the gun. And they're shooting, shooting underwater until it's dead. Finding Nemo, find all these holes in Nemo from the bullets.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Again, Loch Ness Monster. Not finding Nemo. It all connects. It all connects. Yeah. I've got more, but I think, I think Locky. Locky, I think Nessie was a good place. Oh, Locky.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah, they call a Locky over in Europe, but it's Nessie here. in where it matters. In Europe. They call them old Locky over there. They drive on the wrong side of the road, calling Locky, it's a mess. Yep, in all of Europe, they drive on the wrong side of the road.
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's a fact. Yes, I'm the host that I declare it so. I didn't know the host powers to alter reality. I like it. Everyone in Europe just hit with the old
Starting point is 00:46:03 Oh, God. What pass here? Oh, le schitz. Also, le shit, but Italian. Ooh, I didn't know you were fluent. That was fun I don't know if you guys had fun I enjoyed it
Starting point is 00:46:18 You guys had more truths I did not expect it to be many truths I'm not a good hot taker I'm a good fibber I tell a good fib but I don't have a lot of hot takes I think I alien needed a lot of my fan base today I'm sticking to my one about cats and dogs though That was a winner
Starting point is 00:46:33 I feel perfectly fine with my position on things You guys are in trouble I have no concerns about being in trouble I just Alright Mark you got points for New Knob Florida bra tittle Waymo
Starting point is 00:46:46 Trains Your Tesla sucked Cold on the moon Public transit callback Too old to drive Cat people have disease Not All nut missed
Starting point is 00:46:59 Need to love art TP over Willing to fix TP Scottish guns And we killed them I got a bad feeling About how many points I'm about to get I just want to note
Starting point is 00:47:11 Need to Love Art was after the peanut miss in the mouth and in that moment No, no, no, I had it heard before You read it after Oh well it's written before the arrow It's just conveniently you Read it after, I see, yes
Starting point is 00:47:28 Need to Love Arts like here What the even fuck Do you do? I still don't understand the system It's trust me, it's fine Bob you got points for Stained Glass Cam Zoom
Starting point is 00:47:42 Playing along Switch to works AI greater than Wade No Atmo rip suits New Mario Kart Best That probably was before But the arrow Whatever DMV is a phony
Starting point is 00:47:57 In Guam Cats nor dogs AI art great Only at 20% Stupid mortal pets If you were part better art You got quote You got points for that quote
Starting point is 00:48:09 Well, that's just true. Likes Nessie. Poilip paper debate for dummies. But you did lose a point for not willing to change the toilet paper direction. It's not that I'm not willing. It's just that it doesn't fucking matter. Right now, Mark, you are at 5, 10, 15, 16. Bob, you're at 510, 15, 14.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Because the loss. Damn. So 16 to 14 right now. I'm fucking out of my gourd. It's not over yet. We've seen these comebacks happen, but it does seem to be your season. I already have the best Scottish accent. in the bag.
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's true. If that comes up, I'm not even put up a fight. Yeah, you're doomed. Shall I spin the how many wheels, sir? Let's do it. We are now in the era of ones. Ah, never mind. Oh, three is good for Bob. Yeah, well, that was kind of my only chance.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Or it could be good for me. Extend my reach, you know. What are we adding to the wheel? Oh, Lord of Wheels. Love of video games. What does that mean? You gave some love to Marry. Mario Kart today, and it's just, it's nice to hear positive video game stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:13 We're video, I'm a, I'm a gamer. What the hell do you mean by that? I mean, you contributed nothing to video game discussion today, and Bob did, and that made me happy. Usually I'm the video game guy. I'm over here like, oh, blueprints. Ah, check this game out. I was playing this.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I think some video game love, considering our career roots, our video games, is just a little appreciated. All right. All right. All right. only give points to me. How many am I behind by two right now? Two.
Starting point is 00:49:41 What? Did either of you drool? I mean, I was eating, but I don't know if I was drooling. Wait, what is my camera doing here? Wait a second. Wait a sec. Wait. Whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Whoa. Whoa. That's new. All right. No, I think it might be a respite unless you've drooled. I don't think I drooled at all, no. Yeah, I can't say that I, drilled. Yeah, I didn't drill.
Starting point is 00:50:07 All right. I'm going to stop, I'll tell my camera to stop being a fucking weirdo. Oh, most callbacks? You even said I had a callback. I did, yeah. Wait, I called back to a whole other episode. I said, I did the, but an Italian callback. That was a callback. Mark did the public transit callback, and I think those are the only
Starting point is 00:50:29 two I have. If I had to guess, his is older, so therefore, I didn't even think that what I was doing was a callback. Well, this is most callbacks. This isn't quality. It's most. And I've got one for each of you at the moment. I wasn't making a callback when I did it. You just wrote it down.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Okay. Well, Bob, you get the point. I'll take it. All right. Now, let's just land on most callbacks two more times. And that'll be a day. Okay. No point.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Fuck you is what we landed on. All right. Oh, man. And I win either way. It's going to be a tie or it's going to be me. That's true. I'm going to argue this so hard for you, Bob. Come on, Ty.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Point for, oh, no. Point for viewers. I mean, yay. But, man, I was... I was sweating a little bit. All right, I'll take it. I'll take it, but... We haven't had the wheel of torture spun in such a long time.
Starting point is 00:51:29 It has been way too long. It's been a long time, man. That's by no fault of our own. Scores have mostly been tight. That one could have gone either way. I mean, well, congratulations, Mark. You are the winner. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:51:45 What do you have to say? Winter speech. It just goes to show. It's about the journey not to destination. I thought I was losing the whole time, but I never gave up. I gave up a little bit towards the end there. But then it was right out that I had more points, and then I stopped giving up and I started fighting again.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And even though, even though I don't know how in the hell I won, I still won, and I believe it's because I'm just that handsome. Too late to change the winner. Bob, um, loser's speech. I feel worse about you having to give one now. This loser's speech is sponsored by my inability to craft a hot take of any sort. This was biased against me the whole time. I'm a cold man.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I am not a hot taker. And, uh, I never stood a chance. Nobody has hot takes like Mark. Oh, one coin flip. would have not have saved me. I wouldn't need like four coin flips to try and turn this bad way around. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:52:38 You have to take it on the chin. Sometimes when obvious bias against you crops up, you just have to look the other way and forget that there's a coin flip thing you could have done. And that's what I did today. Well said. Viewers, get to the subreddit
Starting point is 00:52:53 or, you know, make comments because you guys actually lost even worse. So you're the ultimate losers and I'm expecting a loser speech from you guys today. You got a point, which I guess is more than we can say for the listeners, but, like, that means they didn't compete and you did, and you still lost.
Starting point is 00:53:06 So, you can follow Mark and Mark a Plyer, Bob at Meisker, me at Minion 777, or Lord Minion 777. Don't follow the viewers anywhere. Take that. Stay tuned for the next one, or I guess we'll see if Mark has any ideas left because he's hosted a free episode this season, I think. Mine is too. Always got it.
Starting point is 00:53:22 The most perfect crime is on the way. We'll see. Merch coming soon now, then, maybe. Better look. Maybe it's out there. find it. Maybe next time we get together, we'll have an update for you. Maybe it's right behind you. The podcast out.

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