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Episode Date: December 20, 2024

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Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, Money'd Mark comes out for AAA creators, knocks Nintendo, and comes up random. Blighted Bob is still sicky, balks at buying unfinished BS, and suggests more festies. Wealthy Wade rejects evil and goes into exile, argues the nickels and dimes and gets into granny's from single sausage orgies to Hogwarts hand cannons It's time for Insert topic here now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show Hello and welcome to distractible. My name is Markiplier and I'm gonna be your host for today

I traveled in for this episode I made a long extensive journey to be here because there was a podcast Emergency in that we needed to record this podcast and what podcast is that? Is it just distractable still? That's correct! One point above! Is this a quiz episode? Hang on. Let me me pull up Google I'm gonna write down this answer what podcast distract the bull. What podcast is this? I'm not gonna be fooled again It'll come back up it'll come back up end of the episode I'll ask it again But this is the podcast where we make up everything as we go and the hosts change out new bullshit comes every week

If you don't like this week's episode next week's gonna be even better. We do two a week Yeah, we do two a week. Some people don't know that they probably don't follow us so they don't get the notifications If you followed it, they tell you yeah ring that pot of pot ring that pot What are you doing Spotify? Just click the button You're gonna have to like swipe down to get the full video of the episode down a little bit. But you go find that fall button, you'll know any time we get there. And then we look really good in Spotify's eyes, and then they will give us a lot of money. Bags.

And that won't benefit you at all. It'll benefit us. Yes it will. You'll know that your lowercase G gods are doing a lot better than they were before. For every bag of money we get, we'll put a portion of that towards the production value of this show, right? Thought I had no water. I'm good. Give you a water point. Hydrated. They hydrated out there. Bob, do you have water?

I have two drinks and neither of them is water, but they're they're Bob do you have water? I have two drinks and neither of them is water, but they're they're Hydrational. Oh, no, they're zero sugar sport drinks. Nope. Don't count. They sound like water Hydrogen sulfide probably sounds a lot like water too, but I don't think you drink that I think if you got hydrogen sulfide in your mouth, it would not sound like you were drinking water It might for the first moment and then you'd be alive like, AHHHH! AHHHH! GAAAHHHH! And then like death or whatever happens. What was the movie where there was like, I think it was Spy and it was like the guy who played the tall goofy guy in the office drank acid and as he's dying and his throat's melting he's like, AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! AHHHHH! A! I'm like flipping the bird. That's very funny.

We stand by everything that we say on this podcast just like we're gonna stand by whatever Bob and Wade are gonna say in this Mall talk today. Uh-huh. Woo! Let's go first. First person loses a point. I'll go first. Uh... Jumped on that? Well, listen. Alright, minus one for Bob! First. I feel like I've been saying this forever.

Still sick. Luckily I'm doing better, but luckily Mandy did way worse this past week. Like literally multiple nights where she couldn't even sleep because coughing constantly for hours and hours at a time. But beyond the endless misery that Mandy is currently enduring, we had like our first snow, like our first real snow enough in Sincy where it was like stuff was covered and it looked white outside.

Like it had snowed before that, but it's always nice that morning when you wake up and you look out and you're like, oh, it's like Christmas. That's lovely. We didn't get any of that here. I think if it snowed where you are, that would be a bad sign in general

for the way things are going in the world. I'll give you a point for being sick, but this will be the last week that counts. I would never want to talk about it again. I feel like I've gotten my sickness out for the next decade. Let's move on with this. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Wade, you sick? No. I do have to remove my Diablo crown, which I love and treasure dearly I got to put on my path of exile to crown. You mean other Diablo? Diablo 4 is They've reached a good peak there for a while

I was telling you guys man the game is really fun and it's not necessarily gone like way downhill But like it kind of at least plateaued and drifted down a tiny bit. Path of Exile, they've been killing it for years. I mean, since like, what, Diablo 3 came out, Path of Exile 1's been killing it, Path of Exile 2 Early Access came out. And the game's going to be free right now. You can pay 30 bucks, which is a high point, I'll grant, for Early Access for like six months

or a year, whatever it is. But man, is it fun, man, is it challenging, man, do they listen to the community. I was telling you guys before the stream, the game has been out less than a week as of us recording this. They've had so many patches and updates and they had a big old patch after the first weekend.

They were like, hey, we've been taking any of your feedback. Here's why we're doing this. Here's why we're not doing that. We understand how you feel about this. We'll see what we can do, but we don't wanna go overboard and blah, blah, blah, blah, and just like, I don't know. It's been so refreshing.

It's been fun. And it doesn't feel like they're letting their ego get in the way. Like, like my first love Diablo sometimes does. And I don't know, I've just been having a really good time with it. And it hurts me because I want to like Diablo more. But Diablo, I think they lit out a tweet at just the worst time. They're like, what if we start calling a RPG Diablo likes while they were kind of losing the battle? And it's like, ah, that's a bold take right now.

That's just flailing. That's just searching for any attention they could muster. Yeah. And they got it. I mean, granted, they got it. But I don't know, man. I do love both games. But man, even in early access with half the weapons not in the game, like some of the classes not in the game, bugs and crashes and whatnot, like, you know, early access issues,

which I'm not a big fan of early access, let me be clear, I think early access is a bit of an annoying scam, but it's the game and everyone's got to play it, so that's where we're at. But even in that state, it's good, it's fun, it's challenging. I didn't think I would like it because I'm not big on the Dark Souls feel of like, hopelessness walking into a boss fight and just being like, TAKE MY SWORD! One one thousandth of its health bar went down. It hits you once.

Three quarters of your health bar went down. That feeling is not usually very good for me, but something, I don't know, something about this works, and it feels good. Well, that's good. I'm glad you found something other than hopeless. I gave you a Diablo 2 point Yeah, I didn't break up with Diablo first. So I'm kind of feeling a little scummy. They're both aware of each other Right, like I've been honest honest just not all the way honest honest I don't think that qualifies as honest point honest just not like just not truthful or Well, no, no, they both know what I'm doing honest, but not forthcoming

No, you something you mentioned since this is a gaming podcast something you mentioned I'm surprised companies don't do more and I don't know the full extent but you said that they acknowledge things that they didn't do That literally the path of exile deaths were like well, this is why we're not doing that. Sorry guys I don't get why more companies don't do that. Blizzard and Diablo 4 team is a little egotistical and they think they know best, but there are lots of companies who do a really good job of addressing the community. And even the good ones will often just,

if they're not gonna do something that a lot of the community is asking about or asking for, they'll just ignore it and like, they'll be like, we're doing this. And everyone's like, what about this thing we always ask for? If the company, even if they just said, we're not doing that because we don't like that

as a thing for our game, and we're just choosing not to do that, we could, but we don't want to. We're making that choice. I feel like people would respect that. And I'm just surprised that companies still haven't learned, or game devs still haven't learned. The people shouting in your community

would be just as happy if you told them no and told them why as if you did exactly what they thought they wanted you to do. They just want to be heard. And I'm just like, that's not a hard lesson to learn, but companies and game devs still just like ignore the parts. They put blinders on. They're like, we answered your concerns. We're doing this thing. And no, you didn't ask for anything else, right? Okay, good. Just say we don't want to do that that or we can't because we don't have enough money or whatever like people would respect that I think honesty and transparency would go a long way transparency rather like I don't want Diablo to be path of exile I want to make

that clear like I don't want Diablo to all of a sudden be like well we need Dark Souls style combat I love Diablo's combat the way it is I think it's fine to have two ARPGs with one being a little bit like just go and be God and one be a little bit more like, you're really the underdog in every fight you get into. Like I'm fine with both styles. That's not the issue.

The issue is when Diablo 4 came out, so many quality of life things that were in three, even just having like a variety of types of goblins, the portal to the goblin realm, a pet to pick up your gold. They have added that sense, but just like some of the quality of life stuff that was in three, they're like, nobody wants that. They don't want quality of life.

What they want is what came out in 1998. Everyone loved Diablo II. Let's give them the no quality of life features and a worse Diablo II. And it's like, no, that's not it either. That wasn't the answer. So quality of life is fine. And even if they missed the mark

with what they were originally going for, it just feels like they drew a line in the sand and they were like, this is our game. We're doing what we want with it. And then they're still slowly bringing in all of those things as people are leaving. And it's like, just admit it that you guys missed the mark. And like Bob's saying, be transparent about it.

Make some changes, make the right adjustments. And don't feel like, like Path of Exile, one of the devs I think said something like, we understand that people get burnout, we don't expect you to log in and play our game and only our game every day, seven days a week, play our game, have fun with it, do what you do, take a break, come back, that's fine. Whereas a lot of games are designed to be like, you don't want to miss your login bonus because the 100 days streak is this. And it's like, we we don't want that not everything has to be battle pass Don't miss a day. Don't miss all your dailies kind of challenges

And it's just refreshing to see someone actually make a game and feel like it's out of passion rather than out of force the masses To never leave they only get us There's another topic that you said at the very beginning that I want to touch on where you said thirty dollars That was kind of high. I'm gonna make a very bold statement That is not a high price for a video game And I'm not even considering like of the scale that this game is in 1995 a game called Earthbound came out so you guys probably know about it, but some people out there might not this is a Very influential game made for the Super Nintendo way way back when it's one that I played a long time ago

You want to know what that game cost when it came out? In 1995, I like a hundred bucks or something. 69.95, which in today's money is $144.81. That's a lot. If games prices had followed inflation like they probably should have given that the development team for that game was significantly smaller than the development teams for games today.

The reason that we have all these battle passes and the malicious practices is because the consumers balked at any price increase beyond... Even $69.95 back then was probably pretty high, but then prices went down because people were like, it can't be over $50. And then every single nudge up after that was fought tooth and nail. And I'm not blaming anyone for this, but I'm coming out swinging by saying $30 for a game is not a lot of money. I will agree with you. The only reason I said it was a high price

is because this is a free to play game that has a $30 price just to play it early. I still think that's not terrible. And 30 is the cheap one. It's a 30, 60, and 100 are the three prices for the three early access packs. Oh yeah, 100 would be kind of a lot for early access for a free game, but.

But I agree with you. I think games could cost more. Like obviously we're in a position of one, we get to write off games on our taxes. Two, it's our job. Three, we can afford to play these games. So we have a lot of things going for us as far as paying for them. But I agree that games have not gone up much in price to write off games on our taxes, two, it's our job, three, we can afford to play these games. So we have a lot of things going for us as far as paying for them.

But I agree that games have not gotten up much in price as to what they should. It's just a little weird to pay $30 to basically be a beta tester for a game that will come out and be free. Because most of their monetization in Path of Exile, all of it, isn't even for pay to win stuff. It's quality of life stuff like having some stash tabs that have different organization. That's like the big one as far as I know. And then the rest of it's purely cosmetic stuff. And that's been their monetary model that's done very well for them apparently over the years because they've continued it even in the path of exile too.

Absolutely. It's all distractions and smoke screens. I like your argument, Mark, but I think that that comes, I think there's a caveat to what you're saying that I would require in order to agree with it. Okay. All right. And that would be, I would happily pay 80 bucks, a hundred bucks, maybe more depending on the game for a game.

If that meant I got the whole game and it was supported and like done. And it's, it's a common talking point these days where people are people complaining about companies Just crap out something and expect to finish it after it's released The other thing I don't care for that I think makes the pricing would make the pricing hard to bear is like my example and it's all different now But destiny 2 when destiny 2 came out. I was like, okay, it's an expensive, it's a full triple A game. It's like a $60 game. Plus it's like a hundred dollars if you want to buy the first however many seasons of expansions or whatever, however they called it. But even if you bought the most expensive version of Destiny 2, you didn't get even everything

in the first phase of life of that game. you still had to shell out for the whatever the next DLC after the ones that you got with your original pack. And I get it takes money. They make they've made a ton of content for Destiny 2. It's become a whole other game. It's free to play now. It's a whole thing. But I just I have no reason to think, oh, if I spend $100 on this game, that means that'll be the full price I pay for it. It won't be there will be a DLC. They'll do something where it's like, well, if you want all of the content for this game, you also have to buy this.

So if it was a world where buying the game and you own the game, and maybe if that means they make less DLC and they move on once they're done, but I still only have to pay the first price, I'm totally into that. And I think that would be more than fair. But it's all the combination of what happened with the prices and now all the malicious tactics the companies use to keep extracting money from players. It's like, it'd be a different universe, which you're arguing it should be, but I would live in that universe happily. Here's a good example of that actually happening properly, because Amy started playing Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. Now, if you know about that, it had an end of life

no longer going to make updates for the game. So what they did is they said, this is Pocket Camp complete, it's $10, you get everything that has ever happened in the game all for $10. And I'm not sure if it used to be a free to play game or whatnot or- It was, it was my mother-in-law's favorite video game

in the world. It was very sad when they shut it down. Yes, and so it used to have in-app purchases and stuff like that, but now it's just, everything is unlocked. You can go through the entire game all in one go because they were like, we're not gonna support it anymore, so here you go.

And honestly, it's a better game this way. And I know it took time to develop things. So in a weird way, it's kind of like, this is a pseudo early access where they like filter content over time. It's just all how you package it. That's marketing. But now that it's $10 and everything is there,

it's a fantastic game. And so it's $10, that's a bargain for what this game can offer you if you're a really big fan of that type of game. So yeah, there's definitely ways that it could be done, but a complete game, oh, so much more valuable than any other. I wanna offer up this nugget as well.

It's hard to get a physical copy of a game that exists forever now. And there are times where you buy a game and you're at the mercy of whatever platform you bought it on. One, continuing to exist, and two, continuing to have the game on there. Like Destiny. You know, if you're gonna put tons of money toward a game,

and then like maybe after two years, whatever reason it disappears off of a platform or even 20 years it's like I want to go back and play this game I bought 20 years ago. I paid full price for it. Oh, that launcher no longer exists or that game is no longer on Steam or whatever have you. That's another sad and scary thing about it is like I've got my Sega games in a box where I can just go and pop in Lion King into a Sega Genesis at any time. But over the years there are games that I'm sure we've added to our libraries. I can't think of a specific example, but the other day I was going to record... You guys know the game Granny? It's like a horror game.

Mm-hmm, sure. So there was a Granny together, like a multiplayer Granny game. And we all thought it was from the devs of Granny. I don't remember if it cost money, if it was free. Apparently it wasn't. I think someone like took Granny and modded it and then like put it on Steam. It might have been free. I don't know, I didn't get a chance to pick it up but a group was wanting to record it and I went to go get it on Steam and it was gone did not exist and

One of our friends had it I don't remember if it was still in their library or also gone But point being is like that one's a little bit like a shady who knows what was going on thing But in general that can happen where you can buy a game for whatever price and then it can just vanish Because you don't have a physical way of accessing it This is why emulation is so important and allowing emulation to occur and keeping and collecting of froms Especially when something becomes abandoned where which is just like a software that is so old that no one really wants to maintain it They kind of wave though if they're not supporting it

They're not expecting to make any money off of it. So it's like those old types of games Emulation is a huge huge thing and that's just from passionate people that any money off of it. So it's like those old types of games, emulation is a huge, huge thing. And that's just from passionate people that are making things. And I think it's better for the gaming companies to allow stuff like that to happen, especially for older catalogs. Cause if they're not going to put it on their store and have in like modern hardware, be able to emulate the older stuff, then why are they worried about anyone else emulating it?

They're not trying to make money off of it. Other people are just doing this for the passion and just because and it's free for everyone else so no one's paying for those. Yeah, Nintendo. Interesting tidbit. I talked about this recently with some other people on a livestream or something. Recently there was a ruling by the US Copyright Office that denied a proposal to an exemption from DMCA, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, that would have allowed libraries and archives,

such as the Video Game History Foundation, to lend out ROMs of like abandoned media, abandoned video games in particular. There are exceptions that allow for things like that to exist for like historical purposes and archival purposes. Man, the copyright office specifically ruled video games don't deserve that exemption.

There were several, one at least, I think a couple of online libraries where you could go and get ROMs of old games that you really can't even buy if you want to anymore. You can't do that anymore. They're shutting that down. Though it was a big cut against preservation of media because abandoned media and lost media is a huge problem in the world of video games as it is in music, movies, TVs. But like video games is a relatively young media and there are way less people who are who are concerned about preserving it at this point still. There are a lot of preservation efforts for old film

reels and old music and forms of media and all that sort of stuff because just older they have more have had more time to develop that. There are currently games that are just falling off out of existence because you can't find physical copies. They're getting old and destroyed and you know the number of organizations trying to preserve ROMs and their ability to share them with anyone is not substantial enough to prevent things from just being lost to time. This is why people's right to privacy and whatever they want to do in their own homes is so important. You know, the adage of like, oh, if you got nothing to hide, what are you afraid of? But in reality, there are certain things.

No one can stop you if in the privacy of your own home, if you wanna have and collect ROMs of these games and stuff like that. No one can stop you if you want to share it with a friend. It's just when it gets to the point of like, distributing on a larger level, people really are like, oh wait, hold on there. But, who's gonna know?

I love the visual of like, they must be doing drug deals, there's a line of people outside this guy's house. Shh, you want some ROMs you want to play Lion King and this is this hypocrisy to on Nintendo's part because didn't they discover on some Nintendo event that one of their gaming stations where they had like a even like I think it was relatively modern stuff they were using an emulator with roms of their own games in the public display where you could go up and play games wherever it was.

It's like you're using the emulators that people put hard work into for your own benefit. So what's the deal? Well, they made the emulators play their games, therefore they're their emulators, you know, the transitive property. I mean, that actually is the... most of the time that is the argument. And they win. They win a lot. They win almost all the time. I think Nintendo's like like 13 and 0 for lawsuits on this kind of stuff. I can't believe the $10 attorney I can afford can't beat their team of $13 billion attorneys. It's also because they'll drag you to Japan and do the court case in there and Japan is a very strict...

I would drown. That's a long drag. They're dragging you very fast. So you actually step you kind of bounce on the ocean. It's like water skiing It's very fun until you get there and you're in court and we use water skis in your wetsuit. It's terrible It's terrible. Look, it's part of the strategy. My lawyer doesn't do international law All right, so the topic we're gonna move on to. No one got the segue point. Oh wait, yes you did. You. You got it. Oh. I'm giving a point to the people at home for the segue point of today. In that, if you thought at home that this wasn't going anywhere, you're right! Cause I don't have an idea for this episode today. I got nothing! I got nothing! I'm an empty sack of shit hosts that doesn't have nothing! So all of you doubters out there, probably the listeners if we're being perfectly honest about this. It's definitely them yeah. It's definitely the listeners. All of you doubted me and you're absolutely

right. So the listeners get one point and let me tell you if the listeners end up winning this podcast we have to delete it. I'm making that rule right now. That's tricky. Can we keep making more or do we have to delete it and stop? We could pirate it. Someone could make an emulator for this podcast and then pirate the roms.

An emulator of a video player? I think they have those. I don't think so. I think that's not true. For legal reasons, you might not be able to. For anecdotal reasons, go for it. Okay, so there were some things that I wanted to talk about, but it was more like random things

that I was trying to get into. I think that's allowed. One of the things that I've been interested more and more in and what probably is, I think we talked about in a previous episode was 3D printing. And I was just like wanting to talk about, hey, I've made some, I've learned a bit about 3D printing but there's nothing there's nothing substantial that I could possibly talk about. The Game Awards occurring right now as we're speaking this and

there was some hype that Half-Life 3 was going to be announced there there was other hype about like Elder Scrolls 6. I've never watched the Game Award once. Oh thank God I thought it was just me. I've never watched it either. Okay good can we Can we talk openly and encourage everyone to leave comments and talk openly about how little we actually give a shit about the game awards? In the nicest way possible. I appreciate that it's a nice industry event and it seems like it's very well put on. Jeffrey What's-his-name seems very congenial as far as I've ever seen him online. As much as I don't give a single shit about the Oscars except for that five minute clip where Will Smith slaps Chris Rock and it's very awkward, I could not be bothered to watch the Game Awards for even a moment ever. Have you guys ever sat and watched any of the... No. No, but you know, I don't know what the deal is. I'm sure money

changes hands somewhere here, but game companies are using the Game Awards as a platform now to announce their games and updates and DLCs and stuff. Well, E3 doesn't exist now, so the Game Awards is the new hotness for dropping trailers and whatnot. That's... why? That doesn't make sense. Like, I get it's a gaming event, it's a gaming trailer. An awards show should focus on the awards.

I still won't care about it, but that's what it should focus on the awards. I still won't care about it, but like that's what it should focus on HAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm gonna give you a naive point for this Whoa, this is stupid of me, naive Everything is just so fucking greedy Greedy? Wait, what about that as greedy? Because it's not about like, this is gonna be cool The viewers will love when we bundle these together No, it's about getting eyes on one or the other that don't necessarily want them so that more money can change hands.

That's why they do it. So not everyone's excited about everything. I think if Half-Life 3 was announced at the Game Awards, even gamers who don't give a shit about Half-Life would probably be moderately excited about that just because of the memes. I think there is the legitimate community excitement around like, ooh, what's going to come? What are they going to announce at the Game Awards? Is it going to be the new Morrowind game? Is it going to be whatever? There's rumors. It is exciting. It is also a business, but people are excited about that, just not me.

But they could also have an event called the Game Announcement Presentation, and then that could be the exciting. That's not a whole event. Who's going to that? It's got to be awards. People that are excited about the game announcements and not the awards? I don't know. I think if you're excited about one, there's a decent chance you're excited about the other because I'm not excited about one or the other. I assume it goes the other.

I'm on the one end and there's another end of the scale where both of those are very cool for you, for whomever. I suppose, but like I don't, it's just like whenever you're watching the Super Bowl, they're like, stay tuned at halftime for the Desperate Housewives trailer. And it's like, that's cool that that's happening. Also, I'm here for Super Bowl and or funny commercials, not show trailer for your TV station,

but it's your TV station. Makes sense, go for it. Well, but the Super Bowl halftime show, that's not part of the Super Bowl if you're talking about it as a football game, but that's a thing that is as publicized as all of the rest of it. And everyone's like, ooh, it's performing. Ooh, it's a guest artist. Ooh.

That's fair. How many sharks are there going to be? Ooh. I don't know. I just, I don't like it. I don't like the bundle in force you to watch one of it you don't care about in order to watch the other. Wade doesn't like things. How many points is that worth? We know he doesn't like the bundle in force you to watch one of it. You don't care about in order to watch the other. Wade doesn't like things. How many points is that worth?

We know he doesn't like things. There's no points for that because it's talked about every single, every single one. But I will say the thing about the game awards that I do appreciate is that there are no other platforms for this kind of game stuff to rally around anymore. Bobby said it, there's no E3 anymore. There is nothing for it.

And everyone knows award shows are money grabs. That's why people wanna make them. That's why they exist in the first place. I don't like awards, but I do appreciate that there still is some place, because pomp and circumstance, I think, is dumb. I think in general terms is dumb. But gaming does not have any legitimacy

as an art form outside of these events that have it in a pomp and circumstance way because money draws attention from other people that want to take it seriously. And so I believe the gaming is like a very legitimate art form in terms of storytelling and experience. And there's still to this day, to this day, you see tweets all the time where it's like, I can't believe a grown man plays video games. This guy's like in his thirties and still plays video games. The average age of a gamer is like 35 or something now. Yeah, exactly. And so legitimizing it in a way, even if it's a

money grab and I don't want to watch it, I still appreciate that it exists and that it's taken. It has a certain amount of prestige to the event itself. And I think that's overall, it's not a big jump, but it's a net positive for gaming. I have never thought about this, but you just made this connection for me, Mark. There are game conventions and the Game Awards is a thing.

I think gaming needs more events and it's hard to build credibility for this sort of thing, but needs more events that are like film festivals. Because you said gaming doesn't have like other places where it can take itself seriously and there can be. And I feel like gaming would do great in the format of like a film festival where it's like games get submitted, they are sort of reviewed, or maybe there's panels, but then there are also awards like at Con or at Sundance or whatever, all these film festivals. If a movie

wins an award at one of these festivals, that's not the same as winning an Oscar, but that is one of the avenues that films have where it's like it's building buzz, maybe it's a smaller film, maybe it's a documentary which is never going to be's a smaller film. Maybe it's a documentary, which is never gonna be like a blockbuster, but that would be a thing where it's like the community can be part of it, right? You can attend. I'm just surprised that's not a thing

because there are huge gaming conventions and they're very fun, but why doesn't PAX like- Like a fire festival for games. Yeah, fire festival is a great example, thank you. Why doesn't PAX like have awards or maybe they tried that and it didn't work? I feel like that'd be interesting.

Like a best of show kind of thing. Yeah, like the PAX picks or some kind of award. The end of PAX is an award ceremony and it's like, these are the coolest games that we had this year, check it out. And here's five game trailers. We're missing podcast festivals and awards. Oh, there are.

Nobody wants that, there are those things. Nobody wants that. Shit. I think what it comes down to is enough prestige around it because there's a certain aspirational thing for filmmakers. It's romanticized. It is not exactly what people want it to be. And Hollywood's shine has dulled a long, long time ago. But still, people look at film festivals with a certain inspirational glamor to it. Whereas a convention, it's an everybody event. Everybody goes there and some film festivals are like that,

but there is still this kind of like, oh, this is a film festival. You have to be really, really, really good to be in this one. It doesn't even matter if it's a local one. It's a place where everyone loves status, you know, and they want a hierarchy. But with gaming, it's kind of democratized in a way, it probably won't be forever. Whereas like, you know, it can still be done by a one person team and films can be done by one person team, but it's incredibly difficult to do. And so, when it comes to like a convention

like that, I think what people really enjoy about it is like, here's Joe Schmo's game at Booth 297, you know? And I think like it, there really isn't someone that's going to judge them because they're so diverse and like it's, the scales are so different and the AAA titles are the only ones that actually go to the game award shows because they're, they have money putting behind it and they want to have the prestige for it, but there's so little prestige to go around that there's not enough for a bunch of film festivals to occur. I don't know if I made a solid conclusional point there,

but no, I mean, obviously it doesn't exist. And I feel like it would if it was a feasible thing because people gaming has become very legitimized in that way in the last five years, especially, but like if it was a thing that should happen, I feel like it would be happening because there would be money to make in it, I feel like it would be happening because there would, there would be money to make in it, honestly,

and that would be appealing to whomever. The guy who made the game awards would also make the game festival film, whatever. So clearly there's a reason it doesn't exist, but it just. Or it will now. Someone might've had that Leo DiCaprio moment where they're like pointing at the screen right now watching this. And I get half the profits and distractible claims.

I being distractible team. Well, you get half the profits and distractible claims. I being distractible team. Well, you get half a point then. Yeah, we, we I, the royal I. Okay, but I'm giving the other half to the listeners, so they're climbing. So just be careful. Don't love it. Oh, Bob, we got to stop them. Yeah, they're getting there.

Viewers, you get nothing, but listeners are dominating. Yeah, the viewers are not in this, in this race anymore. And like I said, I don't have a topic this week. I have some stories that would probably be a ha ha and a chuckle here and there. Promise you, if you read one of your stories, it will give me an excellent jumping off point to talk about something that's just fascinating.

Okay, all right. 100% guarantee, that's for you, you're welcome. And I will promise you, whatever what you say, I'll be thinking of Path of Exile right now. Okay, good. All right. And Shakira. Path of Shakira. Shakira of exile.

Shakira in exile. The path don't lie. VA officials resign after Breitbart report of Staff Orgy at Tennessee Veterans Hospital. Have no idea the litigatives to this, but. VA, what is VA? Veterans Affairs. Veterans Affairs. I have no idea the legitimacy of this, but... VA? What is VA? Veterans Affairs. I was thinking Virginia. The VA is the administration that like handles veteran benefits, the VA hospitals,

I believe also things like the GI Bill where you get, they pay for you to go to school, that sort of stuff. They resigned because it was discovered that they had a staff orgy. Yeah, and again, I don't know about the validity of this story because the source, you know, is not really one to trust very much but several senior officials at the Mountain Home VA Medical Center have resigned as a sweeping internal investigation and congressional probe into allegations of widespread sexual misconduct intensifies. A bargaining unit by a medical employee at the facility has been accused of engaging- Wait, one? Oh, never mind. Of engaging in sexual relationships with at least 32 female colleagues.

What? At once? Yeah, it's not an orgy unless at least a few of those were all at once, but okay. The man whose name has not been disclosed and several of the women involved reportedly shared details of their encounters on an online forum within a government communication portal meant for VA operations and healthcare discussions. Investigators also uncovered allegations of an orgy involving at least 12 VA employees.

Oh, there you go, okay. Though it remains unclear whether the incident occurred on federal property or offsite. Additionally, two employees reportedly admitted to engaging in sexual activity on the grounds of a medical center. Now, most companies of any type would have probably have, they have stipulations in your employment contract for, you know, fraternization. Fraternization, that's the term. Yes. And so those are, those are probably enforceable in some way, shape or form. But then again, you hear about workplace

romances all the time, because as you're an adult, you have so few places to interact with other people your age or around there. So, you know, the social interactions you have are limited to often work experience because we work until we die. This doesn't say they have any kind of relationship. They just fuck. That's a good point.

What's the definition of fraternization? I don't actually know that. I guess they do have to be concerned about like disease or STDs and stuff because you don't want to staff infection. No and that can happen that you can have ST STIs that just rifle on through everybody involved there. I would love to see the email where it's like hey Ted I got the document request and also you come to the orgy tonight and they're like the business like signature

at the bottom. It feels like the thing that's not being said in that article, oh, by the way, Mark, fraternization is the act of establishing intimate or familiar relationships between individuals or groups, particularly when those associations are considered inappropriate, unethical or problematic in specific contexts. Well, this doesn't seem problematic at all. But it feels like the higher ups who resigned as a result of this knew about and or in some way condoned or did nothing to put an end to this this happening. It seemed like the one guy was kind of the heart of the problem like he's just a horn dog who

can't keep it in his pants in a place of business where he's supposed to be working and not trying to pick up women to sleep with like he this guy was like hey boss I totally hooked up with what that girl that I was telling you about and the boss is like nice she's so hot and that's that's that's fishy feels like they're not saying part of that how charismatic is this guy that's the question well you gotta think he's great at ice breaking right because he's made friendships and more with all these people plus team bondage activities. This guy's top of the chart.

I could never tell if you do that on purpose or not. Team bondage. I did. Yeah. That was on purpose. Oh, wait, I just want you to know, I gave you half a point for staff infections, but I gave a half a point to the listeners again because they had to hear it. Damn it. You got to be careful with that, man. Why does that go to them? Because they had to hear it. Hey, I heard it, too. Bobby, there's only half a point to go around. There are smaller

fractions I'm just saying but that's fine, that's fine. But it's bigger numbers and that doesn't make any sense to me so I can't deal with that. It is confusing. Yes, so it's this guy that's the issue. What if these women couldn't help but be swooned by his Riz? I get that in a workplace if you were this man's manager and this came to light, you would kind of be like, wow, one, how did I not notice this? And two, that's clearly going to cause some problems. But if everyone who was involved was consenting, there's nothing in here that this was like

using a position of authority to inappropriately pressure people to do things. It sounds like it was consensual between all the people who had who fraternized. It is perhaps unethical and definitely like not a thing you want in your in your you know organization. It does not honestly sound that bad to me. Maybe I'm just a weird freak and it doesn't I should be more weirded out. It doesn't sound that bad to me. Does it happen during work or at work? It didn't say that.

It didn't say anything about like, oh, they did it in patients rooms or something. Like, it sounds like there's just a bunch of horny people that all work at this place. And this one dude just is just rizzed out of his fucking mind. I would read more of the article, but it's one of those articles where like,

please subscribe to be able to know more about this story. So it's like, it blurs down right after that. Oh wait, do you know about the 12 foot ladder website, Mark? The what? 12ft.io. You can put paywalled articles into it and sometimes it will be able to get you an unpaywalled version of it. It's a 12 foot ladder to get you over that paywall. That sounds pretty cool. But I like where this quote cuts off because there's a quote at the very bottom of this that I can't read anymore, but it says quote

the fact that the culture would even allow this to happen in the first place is absolutely wild and So we don't know if they're positive or negative about that Absolutely why I know The guy writing the article is like this crazy is crazy man, I wanna go work at the VA, that's wild, and no one over here is trying to have orgies to tell you that much. Oh man, all right, so I'll leave that mystery there, I'll save the 12 foot ladder for later,

but I'll give you a point for telling me about that, cause that would be very helpful. It's a good website, it doesn't always work, but it's a good website when it does work, it's very useful. Well, I hate it that I'm subscribed to like Apple News on my phone, I would it that I'm subscribed to Apple News on my phone. I would use it more if the news app on the phone was in any way actually useful.

Oh, it's terrible. I'm surprised at how bad it is. Yeah, I just paid for it because I'm like, I want to know what the news is. And I'm like, well, as soon as I try to click on an article, it updates. And then I accidentally click on a different one. And then I can't find the article that was just there a second ago. That happens so much. Just please update after, after.

I look at it because I have just enough time to read the article and be like, ooh, that looks just doink. Literally, so many times I go to press it, it refreshes. It's infuriating. Anyway, now for how good most of Apple's default apps are, especially on iOS, there's a lot of like winners where it's like, you don't even, you know,

on Android you might get a different calendar app or to-do list or something. Apple stuff is by and large pretty good, has a lot of features. The news app, absolute letdown. And it's been the same since it launched. I go back to it periodically just to be like, should I do this for my news?

No, I should not. It's still unusable and it's still stupid and They think you can read magazines in it for some reason who wants that? Anyway, I'm pro orgies at work. Just gonna throw that out there. Okay, who's who's who's anti orgies? Where's your hand? It's gotta be Wade. I guess I'm pro. Do I have to be anti? No, you don't you don't have to be anti Oh good, but there was a point if you were if you don't mind being a nerd. I don't want that point. I'd rather stand on my orgy principles. The distractible orgy will commence in three. Next episode title, the orgy. Hey we can afford it now. Price of baby oil has gone down. Is that too soon? Too soon for what? What do you mean?

oil has gone down is that too soon? Too soon for what? What do you mean? You should say is it too late to make that joke because that's not even close to topical anymore. Is that too soon or too late? It could go either way. Alright next episode's the orgy. It's agreed. Alright, next episode's the orgy.

I like how Mark just let me walk away from my guarantee on that last news article. I mean I did talk. Oh yeah wait no hold on. Yeah what was that? I could have just said nothing and let that go. I'm so fascinated. I think you got away with it already. I mean, I talked, I said things, I'm pro orgy. I made, I took a, I took a stance, but you did say you had an article and I want to know what it is now. No, I said I was going to, it was going to be a jumping off point and I was going to have just a fantastic topic and it would make the whole episode. I just made a very big promise about how much I was gonna have to say about.

I gotta be honest, you delivered an article I wasn't ready for. You threw me off. I wasn't ready for VA, because there's a lot of stuff I know about the VA that is very mixed and or negative. And I wasn't ready for orgies, which you'd think I would be ready for in this podcast but Then we're gonna double it and pass it on to the next person. That doesn't mean you get it Wade That doesn't mean you get it. Who else is here when I read this next one? Which I think will be a short discussion whoever has the greatest topic in the world after that will get two points perfect Okay, all right police

Illegally sell restricted weapons to supply crime and this is where I'm actually gonna use the 12 foot ladder because it won't even let Me scroll a little bit that that's all the words you get on that one. Okay, let's try this So in this is again genius police work occurring in this police station where they are selling illegal weapons to supply crime Adair, Iowa, which I don't know what happens in Iowa, but I know it ain't good You say dear Iowa or a dare you don't know what happens in Iowa, but I know it ain't good. Did you say Dear Iowa? A dare. You don't know a dare? It's a dare! Brought over there!

Dear Iowa. They have a population of 794, so small town, right? A little bit of suspicions were erased when the three-person police department asked regulators to buy 90 machine guns, including an M134 G4 gatling style minigun capable of shooting up to 6 000 rounds of ammunition every minute right that's a lot of peacekeeping that peace will be kept they just want to play real life cops and robbers that most police officers do don't they they really do So they asked regulators to what? Approve their budget so they could make that purchase?

God damn. I want to get to this quote and then I'll let you guys run with it. So federal agents later discovered that Adair's police chief, Bradley Wendt, was using his position to acquire weapons and sell them for personal profit. A jury convicted Wendt earlier this year of a conspiracy to defraud the United States, lying to federal law enforcement and illegal possession of a machine gun. In response to this, Wendt said, quote,

"'If I'm guilty of this, every cop in the nation's going to jail,' Wendt told CBS News just days before a federal judge sentenced him to five years in prison." So... Five years is all you get for that? Yeah, apparently. I don't know how successful he was,

but he must've been a little bit at least. What, did he like sell one pistol and he's like, I can't believe I got away with that. I better order a Gatling gun and 30 bars and nine AR-15s. How? I don't get, like, there's no subtlety ever with any of this.

In anything where it's like people find a tiny bit of success You'd think that they would just squeak through just try to just really like wring it out slowly by slowly But no 90 machine guns for a three-person police department in an 800 population I would love to see the paperwork because that sort of stuff I'm sure there were forms or something or there I'm sure there was a place where it was like, uh-huh, and what are these, what's this purchase weapon we're gonna be used for? And he was just like, oh, practice?

Uh. You guys have had three pistols in the last 10 years. You need a 90 machine gun upgrade. Last year you approved the purchase of a rack that actually holds 140 of these guns and one Gatling style mini gun. And so we have that rack in the back room and it's empty. And so I'm like, well, we should probably, if we're not going to put it to use, what's

the point? So we should probably get some guns to put on the rack, you know? It was either sell it or, you know, fill it. And also it's 140 guns, so we need 50 more. But we already sold, I mean, decommissioned the machine guns that were on it, we gotta refill it. Those things degrade fast. No, they really, they spoil on you.

It's like avocados. You don't wanna make sure you keep replenishing because you never know when it's gonna go from ripe to, you know know to brown mush. Three months good frozen only two months if not stored properly. Best guns flash frozen right after caught. Pull out your freezer bag of AK-47. We had one of our two freezers in the basement go out.

We had a whole batch of guns on us. Really threw off the whole cycle. We need to we need to get stocked back up and we need a new freezer too. We had a whole batch of guns on us. Really threw off the whole cycle. We need to get stocked back up. We need a new freezer too. Oh, these guns, they're organic. No pesticides here. Monsanto ain't got nothing on this.

Non-GMO. Actually, I want the full GMO gun. I want the craziest. I would love to know how much he got away with before this though Because this is this this to me reads like this is not the first time he did it and this was the one where he's Like well, no one said a damn thing. I've been doing this for years at this point No one's even ever asked me a question Let's just raise the stakes a little bit and then I'll make more money all at once. It'll just be easier

70 or less machine guns? Nobody asks a question. As soon as you go over 71, that's when the investigations come in. Buried in the court documents is like, yeah, Mr. Wendt had been requesting 68 rifles per year for the last seven years. And regulators were like,

that's about right for three police officers. But when he asked for 90 and a minigun, they were like, oh, look, I love guns as much as the next guy, but that's a lot of arms for three guys. So apparently I don't know how much they were doing it there, but there were 58 cases that CBS News identified where law enforcement officers were criminally charged with illegally selling their weapons. Of those 58, 56 either admitted guilt or were convicted, and then two denied wrongdoing and weren't convicted or whatever. So 56 out of the 58 of that were found were guaranteed to have these guns sold to other places. But that doesn't speak to how many nationwide has occurred. But 26,000 guns found from American crime scenes were traced back

to government agencies between the years of 2017 and 2021. It seems like a lot of guns that feels like a large. I will say this is going to sound like I'm making an excuse and I'm not. I do think... I wonder how much of this comes from a place of knowing how our government stuff works a little bit, especially federal funding. I do know that in a lot of place, in a lot of like budget concerns, if you have... If they give you a budget for something, like let's say there's a federal grant or something for a police department and they're like, okay, you could spend $25, like let's say there's a federal grant or something for a police department, and they're like, okay, you could spend $25,000.

Here's, and we'll give that to you, but you have to tell us what you bought and track everything. And then if you spend $22,000 of that budget and you leave extra, the next year they'll be like, well, you only need $22,000, right? Okay, we'll just shrink that down a little bit. There's this weird pressure in governmental settings where it's like you you better not fucking go over the budget

By a single penny but every little bit that you're under that number is also a penalty Because we're just gonna take that away and assume you don't need that money anymore We'll just take that back and so there's like it's a weird game of like what can we buy? take that back. And so there's like, it's a weird game of like, what can we buy? It probably shouldn't be guns. The decision making in the, what they bought is I think the problem, but like I get that there's probably a lot. That's why a lot of police departments it's like, well, we just bought two new cruisers last year and we barely use them,

but we have this extra money. So I guess we're getting another new Ford Explorer or something, because if we don't spend it we lose it We might as well just have a car. I guess or so. It's a weird pressure I didn't even think of that because that is that is something that I've heard it before and this comes down to where government Records and keeping track of everything is very difficult because the country is very big and this is this is a problem And this is where probably I there's a slippery slope for me to say And this is where probably, I, this is a slippery slope for me to say, but this is where like, you know, more intelligent systems, I'm not saying AI specifically,

but if there was way to better categorize and understand what each individual department was doing, then budgetary tracking could happen. But it's just so unfeasible because of how big it is. And you would need more, you would need as many people as are in those industries just to keep track of what they're all doing. I don't know how the IRS knows everything that they know. They don't. They don't know anything except for the people that they are like, well, you're in trouble.

We're gonna get you. Why pick you? And then they just target their five agents they have available on that one. 70 plus guns, red flag goes off in their email inbox. Eenie, meenie, miney, fire! Gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah, gah. I like to think it's like working in the medical industry,

like the drug companies would come and like take doctors and stuff out to lunches and they'd give like samples of their products and stuff. Like the NRA is one of different police stations like whining and dying, like, oh, you want some samples? And it's just like a box of machine guns. I think that is actually illegal even in this country, but they a hundred percent take police,

like police officers out to lunch and are like, oh here's a laser sight for your service pistol. Oh here's a here's some high capacity magazine. You want to try these out? We got a bunch of these over in the truck. They absolutely, anything that's technically legal, they totally do that I'm sure because that happens that happens across industries and the gun industry is just a very very large industry in this country. I mean, what's the statistic? How many guns to the population in America?

How many guns? Isn't it like each person could have like a hundred guns or something ridiculous? There are 393 million guns estimated in the United States, which is more than enough for one for every gun. 120 guns for every hundred Americans. So everyone gets also point two of another gun after they get assigned their first gun. But that includes children too. That includes every American, doesn't it? They get a piece of a gun as they grow up. Every year they get another piece so that

by the time they're an adult they can assemble. Alright, here's your receiver. Alright. It's like Hogwarts, you know, the gun chooses American. A kid walks into a gun shop or there's just a crazy old guy who's just like let's try this one Hands it to the kid and the kid's just like The guy's like nope, not that one I shouldn't laugh because this is probably closer to the mark than I want it to be. For anyone outside of America, this is exactly how it works.

We're all assigned a gun at birth. Doctor, my baby's out of ammo! I need a G-section! Alright, that's enough of that topic. Who's got the transition? Who's got the ultimate other topic? The listeners. What? Don't just... What are we doing here? Giving up, man. Calm down! Oh, okay. Do you have it? other topic the listeners what don't just what are we doing here given up man calm down oh okay do you have it well i was thinking oh i'll distract some more could be the viewers i mean the viewers have really not been doing a whole lot so maybe they have the transition you know what the

second most highest country of gun ownership is which i didn't think of this. Pfft, I actually don't. France? France is like 11th on the list. Guns, who loves guns? I feel like Aussies love guns, but I know that they have some actually pretty strict gun regulations and that they had a whole buyback program that happened

way a while ago, so. Yeah, they don't have any guns in Australia. They're all like knives and stuff now. Ottoman Empire? The Vatican City. Every priest has a gun. God? Clearly heaven. By number, my numerical just pure guns, it's India.

India has a second most, 71 million. But their per population is very low. The second per population is Saudi Arabia. Actually, it's the Falcon Islands. The Falcon Islands? The Falcon Islands. The Falcon Islands got them all. No, no no no no and then actually Canada's pretty high up there which makes sense Canada makes sense yeah that makes sense

they act like they're all nice and things they say that I can't think of stereotypically damn yeah damn those people editors have him canceled by putting in the worst country he could say Worst country penis land Can't believe this guy. All right, Bob. Do you have a chance? I saw a hilarious news article and I don't oh it's cuz Australia came up This is I don't know if this is complete Grand Slam, but I'm teed it up here Wade might have to bring it home. I saw it's's actually not a news article, this is a first source. It was a post out social media. There was

a woman who I believe is Australian, possibly British, I don't remember. She looks kind of like Rhega, the infamous Australian break dancer from the Olympics. And she was in the process of writing and producing a musical about her story of going to the Olympics and being the breakdancer representing Australia. I think it was meant to be funny. I think it was a comedic thing. So it was not like, not just potentially going to make Reagan look very good. It was making light of it, which I think a lot of people made a lot of jokes probably pretty fairly. But anyway, this woman was working on this and it was a whole thing and like, this was like, it was going to happen. She was just working on finishing it up and so that they

could you know start to be performed. And apparently Ray Gunn's lawyers sent a cease and desist and or potentially filed a lawsuit claiming that this musical was going to be damaging to her brand and could not be performed and also that the dancer from Australia, Ray Gunn, I can't remember her real names unfortunately, owns the kangaroo break dance move that she did and so the woman who was making this satirical musical would be violating like trademark because that dance is wholly owned by the original dancer who did it in the Olympics. And so that musical apparently is no longer going to exist. There was a lot of, there were a lot of comments from people in America who were like, Hey,

move it over here, move the production to America. We have copyright laws that allow protection in cases of parody, which is, you know, this is that exact kind of thing. It's going to be a funny parody of the story. But apparently, apparently Reagan owns the kangaroo dance and also is afraid that that musical is going to be really damaging to our otherwise impeccable reputation. Also, my favorite moment from the social media post that I saw, the woman who posted it, it was a video, what she said that they were,

that the music would be damaging to her reputation. She was like, she doesn't need me. I'm not, I couldn't damage it any more than it is. Anyway, and she like moved on, but it's really, it's sad and it's bullshit. I mean, obviously Rae Gunn doesn't want that to happen because it's funny and she doesn't want people laughing at her. But that's just how the world works.

You're allowed to make jokes about funny shit. You're going to go and do breakdances that are objectively outside of the norm for how breakdancing looked by everyone else who did it at the Olympics. And I think arguably objectively funny in that she was Australian and was clearly doing a kangaroo dance. And that's funny. How in the, how could you possibly think that people are not going to make jokes about that? How would you possibly think that you could stop them with lawyers aside from the fact

that she successfully did? Cause this woman has no money or ability to defend herself. And so she's like, I'm just going to not do it. Cause I can't afford to go to court over this or whatever. Like, what am I supposed to do? Well, did you see the musical? It's supposed to be cast. It was starring Bryan Kranz.

It was gonna be called Breaking Sad. That's another point to the listeners. Dude, I knew before you even said the punchline, that was gonna be a listener point because of the smile on your face. Why can't I be happy? Well, okay, so I I have another you know, Wade you're not the only one here because I wrote down plus two for ray gun play and

then in parentheses I put play gun so I have to give another point to the listeners for hearing that. Mark no! You're doing this to us. I know but it's all over now so we just need to read the points and wherever the chips have fallen they are falling right there. So that was a great episode well done you really filled in the void to me not having any idea of what we're doing at all, but You knew what distractible was I forgot to ask what this podcast was to wait Right, but we'll have to get that next episode you lost a point for being first You got a point for being sick, but that's the last point you can never get a point again for being sick You got a caveat point.

You got a then you're in court point for the Japan dragging. You got half a point profits, which is pretty good. In the long run, that's gonna earn you a lot. 12 ladders, great suggestion. And then you got the plus two for ray gun, play gun. Wait, you got a water point. You got Diablo two point. You lost a point for cheating, and I don't remember why.

Nah, he cheated, he cheated. You got a nugget point. You got a naive point. You got a nugget point, you got a naive point, you got plus half point for staff infections, you got plus one for farm fresh guns, which I don't think is what you said, but it was- That's not what he said at all. Oh, I think I did, word for word.

The listeners! Oh, God. They got a point for nothing. They have a point in profits that are shared with Bob. They got a half a point for staff defections, which is shared with Wade. They got a breaking sad point and a play gun point Wait, what is he breaking sad points?

Which is four points for the listeners now if you were counting before I don't think we have to end the podcast. I think I think we're good. Wade you got four and a half points Take that listeners! But Bob you got One, two, three, four, five, six and a half Six and a half! Okay

Alright That brings him up to the winning score. Congratulations, Bob. If I had made as many dad jokes as Wade did, we would've just ended the episode right there, cut to black, delete it all, done forever. I still beat them for the record. That's the narrowest win to the listeners

that we've had on the show yet. Hey, the Chiefs are doing it every game, why can't I? I'll talk about Patrick Mahomes to me. Collinsworth does it enough for everybody. Mark knows what I'm talking about. I definitely do, yes I do, yes. Winner speech, Bob, congratulations. It's been a hot minute since I won.

I'm excited, it feels good. I had forgotten how good it feels to come out on top. Even though I worked hard and I earned it, it still feels good to be recognized for it, you know? I work hard every episode. You're not going to win them all, but it's rewarding when it pays off. And also, to the listeners, you almost had them. I believe in you. Next time I win, I want the listeners right up underneath me in second place there so we can all look down on Wade together. Maybe the viewers will even do it someday. Maybe we'll push Wade off the podium. Wouldn't that be a world to live in? Anyway, thanks. Appreciate it.

Okay. Wade, are you gonna take that standing down? Standing up? Sitting down? I will. Boldly. But also, I was gonna make a musical about my failures in this episode and my terrible jokes. I decided to sue myself to stop myself from making the musical. Alright, go ahead. Start the start the musical and editors hit the music da da ba da ba ba I'm not- editors editors alright uh but yeah I'm suing myself I can no longer make this musical I decided it would ruin my brand name it was gonna be called breaking dad for my

dad jokes okay there we go that's for you buddy I don't have a song and this immediately We all know you can I can but I just lost that I don't wanna You know if I had won I would have given you all the musical performance of a lifetime I don't believe you you're probably right. I could still make you the winner No, I don't think I can. You can't. Bob would have so many flags thrown that we might as well be at the United Nations?

No, an embassy? What's the place that has all the flags? I think you got it right the first time if you were going for the place with all the flags. Not gonna lie. Alright, Six Flags. We already have so many flags, we're either gonna be the UN or Six Flags. So we'll see you at Six Flags in the next episode.

Thank you everybody so much for watching and especially for listening. Wink. I shouldn't have made that wink audible. Well then the listeners would have got it, it was for them. Yeah, sure it was. Yeah, definitely. Uh-huh, because we love listeners. Alright, follow the podcast or else.

Thank you. Podcast out. Oh, follow these guys. I said it, it's too late. Damn it.