Distractible - King Of Horror Hill

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

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Yes, it's time for The King of Horror Hill. It's time for The King of Horror Hill. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Distractible. I'm today's host, Wade. And what's scarier than me hosting? Me hosting when I feel slightly under the weather. But that's the season we're in.

I am joined by my healthier friends, Mark and Bob. Hello boys. boys hello you assume a lot about how healthy i may or may not be you guys are in tip-top shape well i am i don't i don't know what's going on with you guys made of titanium thank you i got titanium in front of me does that count balls of steel i thought it was titanium balls of titanium this doesn't run with tongue quite as well you titanium balls of titanium this is around the tongue right as well you want your balls to really roll off the tongue testicles of titanium how about that there you go tt look at my tts all right for a more sane part of this intro i'm doing well i'm settling back into being home and you know i'm just like relaxing trying to take it take it easier get back into

the swing of things on the channel. Good. Life's good. I don't have any like crazy tech updates to talk about or stuff like that. You sure you don't have anything you're dying to talk about? No, there's no developments. I haven't bought anything. I haven't researched anything.

I've just been reading a book. Wow. That's not very high tech of you at all. Are you reading it on some sort of futuristic mixed reality virtual headset what if you went into vr to read a book instead of holding it yourself you dude that'd be so sick just sitting sitting on a couch wearing a vr headset just like it's like the book's really in my hands oh the page is sticking all right fine i'll go on my latest tech interest yes i knew there was something have i talked about how excited i actually am about apple vision uh apple vision is that related to the that's the

vision pro thing right the headset yeah i don't know why they're calling it the vision pro because it's not like any other version of it has come out when we talked about it when it was announced you were pretty hyped on it but i don't really feel like we've talked about it since that initial thing. I wasn't super hyped on it at first because it was just super unsettling with the picture in the screen there on the front page that's still there. Oh, that's right. The fake eyes. But I realized a unique case study where this would be incredibly useful. So, price tag aside, again, most of the things that I talk about are work-related, useful. So price tag aside, again, most of the things that I talk about are work related. And I know that I'm in a unique situation where I get excited about my work because I love what I do.

And I buy things for that work to make it better. And that's not a unique, that is not a common situation. And I get that. And I understand this and this thing is going to be ungodly expensive, but I was on a plane to Korea, right? I was flying and I had to edit while I was going there. And I just had my laptop with me and it's good. You know, the laptop is powerful enough to edit while I'm in the air and on battery. And that's very nice. But what I realized the actual use case for that headset is virtual displays while I'm in my airline seat. And I went and I was like, Ooh, if I was actually able to have high resolution displays on my headset and I was able to create multiple desktop based on my laptop, just beaming the

image straight into my headset. And if it worked like without creating, without being on the same Wi-Fi with just a direct beam from computer headset, because it's made by the same company, then that could be an excellent use case for that headset that is a limited use case but there are a lot of different versions of on a long flight where you need to work where that i could totally see that probably not completely justifying how hilariously expensive the headset is actually going to be but if you have the money and like it's a thing where it's your job and it's you wouldn't like like for me too this thing for me i love technology right so any

excuse to buy technology that also serves me doing my work more effectively i'll take even if it's a little even if it's a little extra and not strictly necessary because i enjoy very like it's a personal like thrill for me to have new technology to see it works, to be able to play with stuff and have something that, like, not everyone is going to have access to. Probably not a lot of people in the entire world are going to have Vision Pro headsets because it's expensive. But, like, in a college dorm room type setting, if you're working in a lab, I know for me in law school, I had to work in the law library a lot because you need to be around the books.

You need to be there. And there was, like, all I had was an the books. You need to be there. And there was like, all I had was an 11 inch laptop screen to work on. I hated that, but there was no alternative. And you would look like an absolute goober sitting in a law library with a vision headset on just being like, but also I don't care if I look ridiculous using technology that would be extremely useful in those sorts of cases. I could totally see that. Especially with editing, because when you're crammed down to just like a 16 inch monitor and you have

to have your timeline, your preview windows, which are tiny file management there to try to get assets in. And it does become a challenge to do that. And it does slow you down because you're not able to see everything. So having multiple monitors, everyone knows increases productivity. But this like having that portable is really interesting. It really is kind of necessary for editing if you're doing anything serious.

I want to know what kind of college student can afford this. I could barely afford SpaghettiOs. This isn't a use case for college students. That's what student loans are for, Wade. use case for college students that's what student loans are for wade non-subsidized high interest soul-crushing student loans will buy me my apple headset unbankruptible loans yes that'll follow you and your your progeny they'll never go away ever for any reason yeah no i mean yeah so this is a thing where like in 15 or 20 or 30 years or something when when the cost comes down not apple's cost but when another company basically

does what apple's doing in a way that's way more affordable then yeah it'll be very viable for someone in like a student situation potentially what i am gonna experiment with is i just got the quest 3 in i'm gonna see i know that's slightly better displays than the last one um but i'm gonna see if that can do kind of a virtual display situation and if there's some software that can do that because that is going to be much cheaper but i don't know if how it'll integrate with mac specifically have you seen the mixed reality stuff there's like a piano it's like guitar hero but for piano but you sit at a real piano and then it just like it does the guitar hero like and then that that's the thing about the quest 3 i the mixed reality

looks amazing it's had the pass-through since like the quest 2 but the pass-through and quest 3 was like black and white but it was infrared pass-through it was yeah it was kind of bad and then the quest pro had a little better but the quest 3 actually is usable i was sitting on the couch with amy and i was we were watching a movie and i was watching the movies through pass through it wasn't great video quality but i could see all the details i could see everything and and everything was actually moving in in high frame rate in the pass through so it wasn't disorienting it wasn't sick it was just like mixed reality was actually starting to implement it wasn't disorienting. It wasn't sick. It was just like mixed reality was actually starting to implement. It wasn't great.

Don't get me wrong, but good enough. Good enough. Yeah. I wouldn't choose to watch a movie that way through that. You could watch a movie in the headset with the actual display. Well, that's the sort of thing, too, where it's like if you're like Mandy does this a lot, she'll work on the couch and we'll both be on the couch. And she likes to have like TV on as like a background noise. Right.

Some show we've seen a million times. It's like, put an episode of that on. That would allow you to like be aware of what's in the room without it being a whole thing. Because I have a Quest 2 and I've made content with the Quest 2. Literally, I was in an open space and I needed, I just needed to walk over to the camera and like push record. And I put the pass through on and I was like, oh shit. Okay, that's the camera.

Yeah. Oh, oh. record and i put the pass through on and i was like oh shit okay that's the camera yeah oh oh like barely function to like avoid tripping over couches if you're getting the quest 3 you will be surprised with the difference that it makes and the hand tracking has improved it literally is better to control it i don't think it'll quite be what say the vision pro will be, but as a much more cost-effective solution, it is a marvelous improvement. And again, for people that don't know what this pass-through is, there are two like five megapixel cameras in the front of it that are just there to look at your surroundings and project what's outside of the headset onto the display. It is not the actual display itself as if you had a desktop in there or watching a movie in there. This is there in addition to that. You could see the real world

as if you're looking straight through the headset, but it's not, it is not a see-through. It is a hard piece of equipment. It's just cameras. It's very, it's very cool. Yeah. So anyone that like plays any AR game on their phone, it's kind of like that where you see like a 3D asset in your camera's phone. If that camera image was displayed a 3d asset in your camera's phone if that camera image was displayed on the displays as well and also matched the space i was so resolved to i was like i'm not even interested in a quest 3 but now we're talking about it and in my brain i'm just like i'm never gonna use it enough to really justify it but what if i did i don't have enough boxes on my floor so i could really use it

you know what wade i will get one and then i'll send you the box and you can pay me half price i'm like a cat i just want the box and look we're not sponsored right now but we will take a sponsorship yeah hey call us vision vision quest all right well that's gonna lose it mr vision quest please call us on the cell phone. This is a thing, too, where I'm sure I get all hype about it, and then if I actually ever have one or use one, it's like, well, it's not everything I actually want it to be quite yet. But I haven't used it, so I don't know.

But every time there's a new step forward in VR, it's like, ah, that's cool. You remember when VR was the virtual boy at Toys R Us where you'd go back in the aisle and stick your head in the virtual boy and it was like, oh. Oh, yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about.

That's like a core memory for me. You go to the video game aisle at Toys R Us and they have the Nintendo virtual boy thing. It's like on a big stand set up and you put your head in it and it's like you're looking at the vector graphics like 8, 9 years old, I feel like. I don't remember that at all. Well, I lived a better life than both of you. I had parents who

took me to do fun things and cared. Wow. I had parent who tried. I was too poor to ever go outside. Too poor to go to Toys R Us. We would look at it from the bus as we rode by. I would stare

at the magazines that my neighbors were given. I was also too poor to have two parents. What a time to be alive. That's still a thing. Can you get catalogs and just like circle stuff? Probably, but they're probably like antique ones that are from like 2001. I don't know if that's

antique yet or not, but I hope not. From 1991. Yeah, I don't know if that's far enough back to be antique still. How old is it to be antique? Well, preferably older than me. More than if an object is like over 50 years old. I think that's probably the cutoff for it being more antique. Because it would have to be like your grandparents thing for it to be considered like an antique right so i think it has to be two generations removed at least which is like

that's variable but i feel like two average generation gaps removed oh i didn't realize these were such specific uh categories oh is it i didn't know that antique is apparently over 100 years old between 50 and 100 years old is vintage oh so that means that anything what are we in 2023 right now anything 1973 or older is vintage now yep how numbers work yes well that's plenty old my mom is vintage hey well if you'd have been paying attention to my lens rant you'd know what vintage is i was talking a lot about vintage lenses in there you were and i remember it and you talked about the rokinors yeah the ones that people still believe that i actually bought yeah i can't believe you spent that much money on lenses i couldn't be more clear you still haven't

showed us your collection but that's fine whatever my collection yeah yeah you're dozens and dozens of uh extremely expensive roque roque nord will you ever get a name right wade will you ever mark what's your wife's name molly her sister watches this i'd be in the dog house if i got that one your wife's name is mandy i'm sorry to tell you oh that makes me bob good luck being wade asshole wait a minute your hair just a beard well if wade is the host then i guess i'm hosting the episode it'll make me piss myself i'll do it again i yeah i i've done it once what would stop me hey i got pee on my clothes this morning so So not my own, not my own pee. Human pee. Great.

That's a way you could classify that. I got human pee on me. You right. You right. Today's topic. I have a visual aid to share with you all. You see crutches, are we? Wah boom.

Oh, man. Everyone listening at home has no idea what just appeared on screen it's wade's penis don't describe it don't describe it viewer experience i don't think i described it it's a wheel yeah i thought someone was gonna describe it well i mean i said it was wade's penis and it is wheel shaped which is very strange that's true and i tattooed it to be halloween colors you could have just drawn on it with like a marker i thought was just orange and And it is wheel shaped, which is very strange. That's true. And I tattooed it to be Halloween colors. You could have just drawn on it with like a marker. I thought was just orange and black, but apparently purple and green are also Halloween color.

Hollow penis forever. So today I've got this fun wheel. And what this wheel will reveal on each spin is a particular monster or villain Halloween spooky themed and we're going to be spinning it twice and then talking about which creature person etc would win versus the other ultra battle who gets what yeah do we have to pick a side or this is this is just another discussion one i feel like i feel like it'd be less fun if we were just defending a side i know bob you're not as big on like horror stuff so I figure it'd probably be better to have

a discussion, and you can feel free to look stuff up. I know who Freddie Mercury is. All right, good. I put Freddie Mercury on the wheel. What a villain. We will not find that man somebody to love today. Oh. But you guys are going to be under pressure to give some good discussion here if you want

points. Get on your bike and ride, Wade. I don't have a title come back but well you guys have any questions before I start are all the monsters just question marks or they're hidden so you don't just see them all off the start it should reveal it whenever it

landed on question mark oh we're starting off with Michael Myers which man is that Michael Myers he's the William Shatner mask oh okay yeah got it We're starting off with Michael Myers. Which man is that? Michael Myers is... He's the William Shatner mask. Oh, okay. Yeah, got it. Usually pictured holding like a knife or something, but he uses all kinds of weapons.

A machete, isn't it? That's Freddy. Freddy Mercury. Yeah. I think Jason is usually the machete. You know, Freddy Mercury, you just hear in the darkness, Stomp, stomp, clap. Stomp, stomp, clap.

Stomp, stomp, clap, stomp, stomp, clap. You hear the scraping of the wall by just him holding some piano keys. I don't know why that wouldn't set me so hard, but God damn it. If that ever happens in real life, I'm going to run away screaming so fast. It could be terrifying if done correctly. All right, who's Michael Myers facing off again? Let's find out. i guess i didn't really think about what happens if i spend the same name twice no we're starting off with a battle of the ages right off the top jason versus michael jason so i've never been able to differentiate these two in terms of ability or power they seem to do the exact same thing yeah yeah aren't they just kind of unkillable strong-ish big dudes typically though jason's

at least been cryogenically frozen but he didn't die are we doing this death battle style where we take them at their most lore accurate peak because that's what they do that which is a ridiculous thing of course but whatever i don't know what you're even referencing but so death battle it's it's a youtube channel that actually had 2003 originated youtube series here we go predates youtube but it is a youtube series so there's there's a channel that just pins people against each other makes them fight yes all right well i'm gonna can't look great to read the subreddit about how i stole that idea i thought you were doing it on purpose i gotta be honest no i was just out of my teeth i was like man this halloween topic thing's really

tough all right well what they do is they they look at their most powerful moment in their official lore or any kind of media they were in and they use that as the basis for judgment again in the fight this is why anything going up against superman according to death battle can never win because superman's like most powerful moment is like dc comments comics just going batshit insane with his power he's like he's got reabsorbed all the cosmic force forces he ate god and shot the devil and that's what superman prime is and it's like okay whatever uh i don't know that i necessarily care for all that specific but we're not gonna pick like michael myers like on halloween and jason like as a baby i mean that would kind of be unfair so well that's not his peak unless it is

do you think that's jason's peak power i know that's what i'm saying like we don't have to do peak but we could just do like their average like whatever i don't care whatever you guys think i'm not picky i just want to know who would win in a fight man so michael myers wears the william shatner mask and stabs people with a knife jason vorhees wears the hockey the old hockey goalie mask and has a machete yeah michael myers is like has like a jumpsuit like a like a overall coveralls type outfit usually is that how he looks like yeah like a blue jumpsuit type deal now i will say they're weapons of choice they both improvise a lot they'll use whatever is around you guys mentioned jason uh using the sleeping bag with a person at the beat

not in this episode he's also used like spears or he's used all kind well i mean jason x is still technically jason but i was just trying to break down the care i'm just trying to think through it i i so jason wears like a brown leather jacket and like jeans usually right kind of like a like just normal clothes maybe yeah i think he gets them at the gap specifically whenever he goes shopping ah ah whereas michael gets his clothes from like a you know a home depot or a lowes type place sure sure sure so does that affect their ability to win yes it's very important i feel like they're starting weapons i have to give the machete the strong start and like we talked you talked about they improvise a lot but assume

they start with their weapon of choice uh they're neither of them is like a super fast super agile like you know rogue doing flips and stuff so michael myers has a short blade and jason has a machete i feel like that's just a huge advantage if it's just two big strong slow moving guys coming at each other have you ever seen the videos because they like teleport around to be conveniently wherever the hero is running there's the videos of like them walking and like the hero turns around turns away and then like they take off running really silly to try to get into position for the next scare but anyway yeah they usually are kind of they're very similar it's a hard one to pick because they're very similar they walk kind of slow they have their weapon and they

somehow magically are just always wherever the hero ends up. When it comes down to just feats of strength, I think it's like Jason just on camera, not even in like, you know, the most hyperbolic sense. But I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Jason has lifted some heavy shit and thrown them at unsuspecting teenagers. So if it was a contest of strength but then again i don't know i don't know michael myers very well so i can't really speak to him weakness wise i don't know how much people put faith in the new halloween series but it seems like without the mask on michael myers was like kept in like uh i don't know if it was like an asylum or what it was, but he was kept like somewhere and

he was just like chilling without his mask on. But then like once he got wind of where his mask was, he like powered up again. Jason, on the other hand, was like drowned. So he is like a big water fear. And they exploited that like Freddy versus Jason. So I guess they do have a couple of different weaknesses ish. They've all been like stabbed, shot, shot cut disintegrated and somehow have come back so so wait michael myers is just a normal dude without his mask it's like the mask with jim

carey whoever puts on the mask becomes michael myers so it was kind of again the new the new trilogy is kind of weird as far as that goes because it's unclear whether the mask is really like what makes him scary or if he's just like got some demonic superhuman powers and they're just like quelled until he like wants his mask back it might just be like he wants it maybe he doesn't need it but he was definitely just like chilling in the uh the prison or the asylum or wherever he was being kept and then like a reporter brought his mask and was like do you remember this and he was like and then like the reporters leave and all of a sudden he like breaks out goes after him and gets his mask back and puts it on then his terror continues again so he didn't have it on and he

managed to go get it back but like when that mask came into view of him he was just it was i don't know it was i don't want to debate this anymore michael Myers seems lame. I'm Jason all the way. His crush, he's ripping his mask off and he's gonna just like, when he depowers and turns into a shriveled baby, that's when Jason strikes the strongest. I don't know if Michael's ever killed anybody with water. So he may not be smart enough to do that to Jason because that might be the one way to get to him.

Can I just say, I'm looking up information about Michael Myers because I felt like i didn't know enough i think i'm reading this correctly one of the movies where he is considered strongest is halloween six the curse of michael myers because it's like kind of supernatural it tries to explain like why he's like invulnerable and where his power comes from that he's evil but also in that movie he's defeated by a character played by paul rudd injecting him with a sedative and then beating him with a pipe he did one guy just knocks him unconscious with drugs and then beats the hell out of him with a pipe while he lays there i think

freddy versus jason was also jason was knocked out with a sedative in that one but uh that is kind of bad but yeah i mean i haven't i haven't looked as much as jason i'm assuming there are probably lame ones for jason as well but like that's rough i feel like jason wins yeah i'm with mark all right you both agree jason wins we'll move on i feel like we spent a lot of time on it so we'll move on let us know what you all think but we went jason wins let us spin again i just enjoy when it wheels spinning oh bob you get to choose good i know a lot of bad guys from scary things well while you're looking it up i'll spin whoever you're going against maybe that'll influence your uh your choice to make an interesting competition watch it be bob's choice again nemesis from resident evil interesting okay interesting interesting

okay okay i've got a lot of names here and i don't know that we'll get to them all so if you want me just to spin again i can but no no no i have found one what you should have done is waited for him to get it and then match it up because if he had chosen like a wimpy normal human and then nemesis pops that's true it would have been easier i guess that's true i was just trying to buy some for him to get it and then match it up because if he'd have chosen like a wimpy normal human and then Nemesis pops up That's true, it would have been easier. I guess that's true. I was just trying to buy some time. I select the Ginger Dead Man. The what?

Excuse me? The Ginger Dead Man is a reincarnated serial killer whose ashes were mixed into the baking of some gingerbread man. He's a rude, crude slasher out for revenge against the women, woman who had him executed. The movie was not highly rated, but spawned a host of sequels.

But Ginger Dead Man was played by Gary Busey, or voiced anyway. There's also Ginger Dead Man versus Evil Bong and Hell Road with them. I don't know. Oh, boy. The first quote that comes up is, well, it sure ain't the Pillsbury fucking dough, boy. Millard Findelmeyer is the man who becomes the Ginger Dead Man. Wow. The Ginger Dead Man 2, the passion of the crust.

Oh, no dead man 3 saturday night cleaver oh wow i love it let's do a watch together of uh ginger dead man his powers and proficiencies include gunmanship knives pliancy and malevolence pliancy, and malevolence. Pliancy, I'm assuming meaning because he's a baked good, he's very flexible and or crumbly? Apparently he's just a real dick. His hobbies are torturing and killing others, robbing cafes,

and being derisive and callous. Being derisive? Ginger Dead Man's like, you're ugly. I mean, he racks up five bodies in the first movie, six being derisive ginger dead man's like you're ugly and then is this just i mean he gets he racks up five bodies in the first movie six kills in the second movie 15 kills in the third movie wow and only three kills versus the evil bong i was hoping that in the fourth movie would just

go up to a million a million five hundred thousand and eighty nine kills jesus christ okay yuck i don't like the character design it's very off-putting but that's kind of the point i guess uh and who wait so who's the who was this against nemesis from resident evil series i don't know about that match. That's a tricky one right there. Does Nemesis have the rocket launcher? Yeah, is that part of the character? If he's at his peak, what does his peak character have?

Probably later in the transformations when he turns into an even bigger monstrosity. Nemesis final form. Let's see. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. I don't know if Ginger Deadman's gonna beat that. How big is Ginger Deadman? Help me out here, internet. I don't know if he's as big as Nemesis final form.

Because I remember this because I made the thumbnail out of it. When was it? Is it Jill? Is it? Has the big fucking gun, the huge penis gun. this because i made the thumbnail out of it when was it is it jill is it is that that who is has the big fucking gun the huge penis gun you remember that just when she whips out and holds just with her two fucking arms this gun that is twice as long as she is tall and like as thick as her torso

all the way through it has to weigh like a metric ton oh i see an image of it she just wheels it and that's what doesn't kill doesn't actually kill nemesis in his second to last form because there was one more but is she callous oh she's saying you think i don't know how to fuck you up in that moment so she's very callous and nemesis is she derisive oh i don't know because ginger dead man is very derisive i uh as much as i love let's put it this way jill beat nemesis in final form by being a little derisive saying you know things like think i don't know how to fuck you up and probably like you really want to fight me again or something like you think you're gonna win this time or is that how she would?

You remember. So maybe Ginger Dead Man, if he can get the right arsenal, because Nemesis did go down. You got to think about that. You got to remember that. I don't know if Ginger Dead Man can wield big guns. I feel like he would crumble. I will say I'm watching clips from the movie now.

Ginger Dead Man is kind of about the size of like chucky oh he's a he's an extremely large gingerbread cookie but like a very mediumly small size thing compared to people here's what we gotta do bob do you have a list of names of his kills because if he hit if he killed anyone named i think is it jill it might be jill ginger dread man has killed unknown woman james jeremy jimmy lorna unknown person ricky paulie cornelius jake tommy and or demon warrior uh scientist number one and two doreen connie sandy unnamed janitor female teenager male teenager male teenager, female DJ, Tammy Pimento, Wheels Epstein, Coco, Yoko, and PJ. Those are his victims.

Oh, also, also Debbie, Debbie's boyfriend, and String. There are a lot of J's in there. There's a few unknowns. It could be. But no Jill. If it was going to be a Jill there, I would have assumed it was Jill Valentine. And if Ginger Dead Man could have killed Jill, then theoretically by the transitive property would have been stronger than Nemesis. I guess that's true. So since Ginger Dead Man didn't, are we leaning Nemesis?

I'm afraid we might have to. It's a close matchup. Oh, man, it is. But he killed Tammy Pimento. All right, let's look up Tammy Pimento. See how strong Tammy Pimento is. Got a recipe for pimento cheese. Oh.

The pimento person. I don't know. That's kind of where it goes. Oh, Tammy Pimento does not look very strong. I've got to be honest. All right. I think we're going to lead Nemesis. Now, we're not 100% certain.

We don't know Ginger Dead Man's peak. I think we got to watch all the Ginger Dead Man movies right now to get like an actual understanding of his true capabilities. Let me ask ChatGPT. Oh, God. Who would win in a fight? is it nemesis nemesis or the ginger dead man i hope that somehow this question just breaks chat gpt all right here we go in a fight between nemesis from resident evil and the ginger dead man nemesis would almost certainly come out on top

nemesis is a bioengineered killing machine with superhuman strength speed and endurance he's armed with powerful weapons and has the ability to regenerate the ginger dead man on the other hand is a cookie brought to life through dark magic less formidable in terms of combat capabilities wait no hang on wait but but come on dot dot. It's the ginger dead man. Okay. All right. Come on, man. Well, the ginger dead man does have the element of dark magic and unpredictability on his side. If we're talking about a scenario where anything goes, then sure. There's a quote chance for the ginger dead man.

Maybe he could find a clever way to exploit Nemesis' single-minded focus on destroying targets, but it's a long shot. But he can't say it's completely impossible for the ginger dead man to win. The chat GPT can imagine five ways that the ginger dead man might defeat Nemesis. How has this become the whole episode? Way number one, cookie trap. The ginger dead man could attempt to lure Nemesis into a giant oven or bakery with the promise of delicious cookies.

Once inside, he could activate the oven and attempt to bake nemesis into submission. Trap number two, sugar overload. The ginger dead man might try to overload nemesis with an excessive amount of sugar and sweets, hoping to get tested with a sugar arrest or perhaps even candy and juice diabetes. Way number three, cookie minions. The ginger dead man could get access to a magical bakery and might summon an army of tiny gingerbread cookie minions to swarm and distract Nemesis.

Number four, sprinkles of doom. He could have access to a jar of deadly sprinkles. That's it. And way number five, the dodo punch. Gingerbread man could attempt a flying tackle made of gingerbread dough, aiming to temporarily incapacitate Nemesis by covering him in dough. That would be a lot of dough. Alright, so I asked ChatGPT what

the odds were as a percentage, right? And at first it was like 95 to 5 Nemesis, but I said can you crunch the numbers again? Remember the Ginger Dead Man is very derisive. Given that the Ginger Dead Man is derisive, I'll adjust the odds to give him a bit more of a fighting chance. In that case, let's say Nemesis has an 85% chance of winning while ginger dead man has 15.

So what you need to do is get a wheel up with 85% Nemesis and 15% ginger dead man. We'll spin the wheel. And I think that's the only way we can fairly determine who's going to win here. I'm not doing that. I'm just going to say Nemesis and move on. No, that's not fair. I feel like we made quite the case for the Ginger Deadman. I feel like the question of who's more likely to win,

85% still means Nemesis is more likely to win. So I've got it here. I think this is the right number. I'm not 100% sure, but I just want to see. I just want to see. You'll see there's three ginger dead men. And what are you going to say? Okay, for listeners who are not watching, Mark created his own wheel.

No shot. Stop. Okay, thank God. listeners who are not watching mark created his own wheel no shot stop okay thank god it got close to ginger dead man but ultimately nemesis seems to be the winner that's two out of three yeah don't we know how percentages work and we've already solved this oh ginger dead man takes second round no by a sliver. It just passed Ginger Denton. Three out of five. Come on, baby.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, come on. It's cheating. All right. Fine. We need to find one of these websites that has a wheel of chance where you can make it look a way that doesn't represent the likelihoods. You can have ridiculous outcomes that don't make any sense.

That would ruin all of our future distractible 100 100 it would basically ruin everything about this entire premise all right subreddit if you can make a wheel spinner that you can cheat on i'm just gonna spin the wheel we're gonna continue this monstrosity i'll probably respin if we get duplicates just because of the time we're in. All right, Chucky. I hate Chucky. Something very particular about Chucky

as the doll and everything, like, creeps me out. Versus Pyramid Head. I don't know much about Pyramid Head. The only thing I remember about Pyramid Head is from the Silent Hill movie, the not very, well, I mean, I don't know if there already is, but it wasn't very good,

but where he literally rips the skin off of that uh that girl it was just a truly horrific thing it's like burned into my brain it's very very unpleasant i don't recall chucky ever doing anything like that he punishes victims in painful and violent manners chucky's just basically a serial killer in a doll's body that that's 100% accurate, I think. He's like the ginger dead man, except he's in a child's doll instead of a delicious gingerbread cookie. Basically, Chucky could almost be Nemesis

is what we're saying. Chucky could absolutely take Nemesis because he's derisive. God, this is not about Nemesis. Well, yeah, Chucky is almost as derisive. As a surrogate for the ginger dead man Chucky is almost as derisive. As a surrogate for the ginger dead man. He is almost as derisive. Stop with the derisives.

No. Okay. Veto. No, so this is like size and strength versus like cunning, right? Because Pyramid Head's big and scary and strong. But Chucky is derisive, callous, demeaning, also a little bit insane and torturous. I feel like Chucky could set some traps and create a scenario where he could get the trap on Big Dumb Pyramid Head.

You guys know we don't have, like, we're not in the corner of derisive. We're just trying to figure out who's more likely to win in a fight. Sure, sure. I'm not taking sides. I'm just saying what I think. And I think Chucky is a lot like Ginger Dead Man. And I think they both get underestimated pretty dramatically, considering the wide range of derisive skills that they have. I don't know that I would lean on Chucky to win. I asked ChatGPT how a hypothetical fight between the Ginger Dead Man and Pyramid Head would go.

This isn't Ginger Dead Man! This is Chucky! Basically the same thing. It's not. So you don't want to hear how this fight's going to go? Just read it. Whatever, man. No, no.

You don't want to hear it. I don't want to waste your time. The audience, I'm sure, does. Maybe. No, no, no, no. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not taking over your episode or anything.

Who wins, Chucky or Pyramid Head? Well, I don't know about Chucky, but Ginger Dead Man actually beat Pyramid Head. Ginger Dead Man summons waves of boiling molasses that envelop Pyramid Head, trapping him in a sticky prison. With a final maniacal laugh, the Ginger Dead Man conjures a bolt of dark energy, didn't know that was possible. That strikes pyramid head, defeating him once and for all. Wait, you guys want to talk about, you want to hear something interesting?

So ginger dead man famously voiced by Gary Busey, right? Wow. Did you guys see the video? There was like a viral TikTok going around of what looked like Gary Busey as a guest at a podcast. And he was like, you know, talk about buttered sausage. You got to talk about buttered sausage. I do not know.

Yeah. Oh, it was a deep fake, apparently, which I initially did not know, but is sort of obvious after the fact. Is that related to Chucky versus Pyramid Head? Anyway, I just think Gary Busey is a funny guy. And his portrayal of the ginger dead man just gives me a lot of faith in the little guy in these fights you know i pick chucky and gary bucey well i think the ginger dead man could be pyramid head but i don't know if pyramid head would be beaten by chucky so who are you leaning

toward i go chucky great next round no more discussion we're just moving on oh please let one of us pick i have a guess all right i already know what i'm i already know don't even spin yet so there's this horror movie i think it's just called tire right but there's this tire there is there's this movie about this tire why did i add this i don't know if it's possessed or something but it makes people it's's called rubber. Rubber. Rubber, right? And so it makes people, I think, just blow up. I don't know if that's what it is, but for some reason in my head- A homicidal car tire, discovering that it has destructive psionic power,

sets its sights on a desert town once a mysterious woman becomes its obsession. Oof. Does it make people blow up? I haven't actually seen the movie but it's been described to me. Wait, why are you exasperated? This is a real villain in a real horror movie. Just who's the rubber

take on or tire or whatever the fuck their name is. Let's find out. Let's see who the competition is. You're being a little negative about this. Please don't be Bob or Mark's choice. Nemesis! Nemesis! Hey! A re-sp a respin right it's a respin no no no no the tire in horror makes people's heads explode you're correct mark oh interesting oh oh oh well you see a clip no but that's a good ability nemesis is big and strong but his head can explode exactly and

because like you know it may not just be the head it may be like centered on things in the head and a lot of weak points in resident evil are eyes which are a head feature and i think that still would fall within the purview and if it could make every eye explode and especially the head like let's not let's not gloss over the fact that wherever it thinks a head is this tire is gonna be like a kaboom i think what's his name just rubber it's just a black tire and the movie's called rubber we'll call him mr rubber oh wait his name's robert rubber is the story of robert an inanimate tire that has been abandoned in the desert and suddenly inexplicably comes to life.

As Robert roams the bleak landscape, he discovers that he possesses a terrifying telepathic power that gives him the ability to destroy anything he wishes. Anything he wishes. It's not even something in a head or a human. Wow. It gives him the ability to destroy anything with psionic explosion power. How could you even stop that? Apparently they don't. They think they stop that? Apparently they don't.

They think they do, but then they don't, and then there's an army of them. Rubber Robert does whatever the hell Rubber Robert wants. Robert Rubber? Rubber Robert? Robert? I like Robert Rubber. Robert Rubber?

Yeah, that sounds good. All right, so I'm assuming you guys are going with the tire. Robert wins! Yeah! I don't know why you're so disappointed. We're fully engaging with your topic wade we thought of creatures that you didn't even think leather face i don't know who that is texas chainsaw massacre guy oh okay i call him chainsaw guy that's like a normal dude though but

samara from the ring because for samara to have power you have to see the movie right yeah that's the whole thing right she can crawl out of the tv once in a moment but how would leather face encounter samara let's assume it's fair that samara is there therefore a movie has been seen yeah is this just like a fight in a neutral like coliseum where it's like get each other well honestly i would assume that leather face would be in his house when he watches the tape yeah so for samara to come out of the tv she would be in his house when he watches the tape yeah so for samara to come out of the tv she would be in leatherface's domain what does she do other than creepily crawl out of the tv and up onto the ceiling touches you and you die or something pretty much yeah and your jaw is like oh and there's water like spewing out she'd be a great villain to kill jason oh yeah that's actually a

good point if that was the matchup but it's not wade so stay on topic she was a very powerful psychic child with a terrible sadistic oh was that the whole thing now i'm looking back i'm like of course of course it was a psychic child and there were experiments being run with the chair floating upside down like that ah now it makes sense sure sure sure sure she is the vengeful ghost of a young mass murder and her character is based on sadako yamamura who shares a similar backstory huh what happens if you destroy the tv as she's crawling out of it would it be like a portal that gets cut off and she's just like right at the torso i don't know what happens if you get like halfway through the movie and you cut up the tv i have no idea like

what if leatherface gets bored and just yeah what if he just cuts her in half as she's trying to crawl out of the tv seems like it needs a solution just don't have what if he just cuts her in half as she's trying to crawl out of the TV? Seems like he needs a solution, just don't have TVs. Are there TVs in Leatherface's house? Uh, let me ask ChatGPT. Does Leatherface watch TV? It is highly unlikely that he would gauge,

engage in such activities, although there is no specific canonic information regarding whether or not Leatherface watches TV. Well, are there TVs in the house? Because neither one would win if he never sees the tape, right? They would never encounter each other. Yeah, but I think we have to be like

they have to encounter each other somehow. It has to happen. Does Samara have any abilities? She could kill you by touching you and she can cross the astral planes or something however she teleports well she has the psychic abilities when she's alive too yeah well that's the thing right this is that the character in the ring is like the ghost of of samara she implants her psychic self

onto video tapes basically or whatever i don't know she's not very scary but i feel like leather face is just a reclusive like anti-social dude and samara would probably win yeah given that samara is like mostly a spirit i don't think a chainsaw is gonna do much and yeah he is just a dude so i'm pretty sure samara would win all right well there you have it next but would the ginger dead man be able to take samara on well maybe we'll find out chucky again come on all right let's just say chucky is ginger dead man i i think those are interchangeable okay yeah chucky slash ginger dead man got it uh nemesis dracula oh interesting interesting dracula is very susceptible to derisive comments he's a sensitive man, he's not a man, but vampires

are very sensitive creatures. They do have a lot of, like, pride typically, yeah, ego. Can you kill Dracula by being derisive? Or is ginger as effective against vampires as garlic is?

If you bake garlic into the recipe, I guess. Six ways to stop a vampire ginger's not on the how similar is ginger to garlic they are different plant families families technically well and of course they look different okay no I don't know if ginger is close enough related to garlic to really count for that. I will say in the favor of ginger dead man, he is a cookie. That's true. Cookies traditionally get decoration using royal icing or something like that. Vampires canonically are vulnerable to holy symbols.

That's true. That's true. And so the gingerbread man could become a consecrated object. That's true. That's true. And so the gingerbread man could become a consecrated object. That's true. That's true. Which could repel and or harm vampires, giving him quite the advantage in a fight against vampires. Also, vampires are traditionally vulnerable to fire. Clearly, gingerbread man, ginger dead man has already survived fire. He's chill with fire. J fire he's chill with fire jucky's not chill with fire so he's not even i feel like you guys are doing a lot in favor

how would dracula win how do you how would dracula kill ginger dead man no blood to suck yeah but vampires can eat it just doesn't give them sustenance right they have they have like stomachs and whatnot or something i guess he doesn't have to eat him to kill him you could just chew him up and spit him out and make you turn ginger dead man into a little pile of said wet cookie dust would that kill him though or would that just incapacitate the ginger dead man until he reconstitutes would he just split into more ginger dead men oh it'd be like gray goo he turns into little little individual crumbs that can all act together that's the thing about the ginger dead man is you can't kill him. You can only make more of them.

Dude, if you take a bite of the ginger dead man and swallow that, then those crumbs turn into little individual and they kill you from the inside out. Oh, no. I'm assuming you guys are saying ginger dead man kills Dracula. How could Dracula win? That's what I want to know. What is he? What's Dracula got?

What's he going to turn into? A bat? And I've heard rumors that the ginger dead man's smile lights up a room just as bright as the sun and that would blast Dracula out of this universe. We've all heard that. All that sad GPTV's heard that. I'm just spinning the goddamn

wheel. I'm asking how bright the ginger dead man's smile is. Slender man. Uh-huh yeah whatever versus michael myers and we could spin again we've already done him he's a loser we'll only get winners back in how about that we'll only have winners come back no the ginger dead man but the ginger dead man! He won every fight! Jigsaw versus Slenderman. Oh, man, I don't know if I can... What does Jigsaw do?

I know he's very nefarious, but he just kind of sits there, doesn't he? Jigsaw is an old man with cancer. That's what Jigsaw is. That's an old man with cancer. There's other normal people out here. We could have had Ginger Dead Man against Slenderman. That would have been great. If that's what you want, Jigsaw would have had Ginger Dead Man against Slender Man. That would have been great.

If that's what you want, Jigsaw would lose. So yeah, go for it. Why not? No! What are you saying that about? Is Slender Man going to like go unconscious and wake up with a jaw trap on his face? He doesn't even have a mouth. How exactly does the Jigsaw killer like get people? Kidnaps them.

Usually like hides and sedates them and puts them in a room when they wake up. They're chained to the floor or whatever. I feel like there's just no way in hell Slenderman's gonna get snuck up on and knocked and sedated and kidnapped somehow. Unless Jigsaw's stealthy enough to get all of his pages. Ooh. Distract him with traps. Get the page.

Yeah, we're not even thinking about how they actually are defeated. This is interesting because Slenderman sets up a game basically like Jigsaw does. This is actually a more even matchup than we think. Slenderman has this game that you have to play where you have to get the pages and then you win and he doesn't kill you. But Jigsaw, you win or you die. Well, the same thing. But you know what I mean?

So if both of them are in an arena where let's say Jigsaw has to or you die well the same thing but you know what i mean so if both of them are in an arena where let's say jigsaw has to get all the pages and then slenderman has to get through all the traps it's a matter of whether or not they're both in their peak they both put each other in their ideal situations and which one can coerce the ginger dead man onto their side jigsaw i would say is more intelligent his traps are a lot more intricate than just some paper taped to a tree but slender obviously has all his supernatural slender abilities so i don't know this is your guy's thing you debate it jigsaw's pretty crazy he is probably derisive oh well definitely derisive but it really pales in comparison to the well-baked nature of the gender dead man and slender i don't think talks so you're not going to get any callousness or derisiveness from him we can't the slender man like literally

like teleport and stuff though like what yeah you can do that yeah so like he's in a room and then jigsaw pops up but he's like you you have to solve the puzzle and slender man is just like and disappears yeah pretty much yeah puzzle solved well i guess we have to assess is jigsaw getting the pages before he dies or is Slenderman catching? He's an old man who's like Mark said, is battling cancer. So him moving around in the woods with a flashlight trying to grab pages. He may not be in his physical peak unless we're taking him at his peak. But at his peak, he wasn't yet a serial killer.

I feel like I know who I want to win and I know who does win. Yeah, OK. Me too. We'll say it at the same time. All right. Say who you want to win, and I know who does win. Yeah, okay. Me too. We'll say it at the same time. All right, say who you want to win first. Three, two, one. The ginger dead man. Say who wins.

Three, two. Oh, Slenderman. All right. One more that I hope... Jesus Christ. You know, I'm just going to reveal the names. All right. Who haven't we picked on here?

We haven't picked. We've had a lot of not picked. All though from fear. Pennywise, Xenomorph, Pinhead. Yeah, why'd you rig up this wheel so bad? It was a good wheel. We got barely two of these. Yeah, because every single fucking round, you guys were just like,

Chucky, do you mean Ginger Dead Man? We got Chucky like four times. Yeah, we didn't get chucky four times i i can't it's a wheel what do you want me to do i don't know fix it fix it all right what's a fun combo we haven't done just let let it ride let it ride i will do lightning round we'll do lightning round and we'll be like it'll be like winter stays in you know oh yeah king of the hill king of the hill king of the hill speed round all right well we know who's not gonna be in the hill okay michael myers is king of the hill for one round let's go baby uh fnaf animatronics if it's all of them they gang up on him he's got no no shot no shot it's they inject him with

sedatives and then beat him to death with a pipe yeah exactly and stuff him into a suit it's no shot goodbye michael myers so are we keeping the previous one is it fnaf versus yeah yeah fnaf animatronics are there it's freddy bonnie chica and foxy up there versus themselves oh that's a tough one they have to fight their inner demons no they have to fight the toy versions of themselves and i think like the oh whatever it is the og five nights at freddy's one animatronics are there at the top of the hill at the end of it so yeah all right so now we're down to the fnaf one animatronics yep versus the tire robert rubber would well the thing is there's four of them it would just make them all explode i would believe he would be able to get them all i don't think you can machine gun that power right it's got to

be a there's got to be a little cool down on it i there's no limitations placed in the lore on the power he just doesn't he doesn't want to kill a lot of people at once but like you know that's fair he could destroy he could destroy all of freddy fazbear's pizza in one action that's that's fair i think yeah you're totally right it would blow up all of them so i think it's the tire at the top of the hill robert rubber takes the king of the hill is anyone gonna beat the tires their point we spit in more ginger dead man might knock him down a. Is anyone going to beat the tire? Is there a point we spit in more? Ginger Dead Man might knock him down a couple notches. Xenomorph beat a tire.

If he blows him up near enough, the acid blood gets on him and the tire melts. That's kind of a draw. Kind of a draw. Well, but there's more than one Xenomorph, right? Is that all of the Xenomorphs? This just says one. Is that the plural of Xenomorph? Xenomorphies? It does say just one, but you know, Ginger Dead man turned into an army of ginger dead men so oh that was just theoretical that's fine i mean so

are you saying the tire wins this we think mark i don't know i think it would melt i really do think if it got close enough and like it was stocked like even if it got one of its explodies off it would melt in yeah well the tire doesn't have supernatural perception or anything, right? And it's not like an acrobat. It just rolls around. So the xenomorph would have to do its crawling around the vents type thing and get it by surprise. But it's possible.

I think that it would result in it would be ambushed. And then as the tire is being slashed to bits, it would blow up the xenomorph and then still melt. I think both are dead. No king of the hill. They're both dead. It's empty. Anyone can take take it pennywise pennywise materializes on top of the hill yep pennywise is just there it's fine pennywise versus nemesis nemesis what exactly is pennywise's set of skills he's like a space alien demon thing but he gets all of his power

based on fear. And I don't think the Nemesis is afraid of nobody. I don't think Nemesis would be afraid of shit. Yeah, and I don't know if an alien is going to have anything to do with a rocket launcher to the face. I don't think he's going to like that. I think Nemesis is king of the hill. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think we all know who Nemesis needs to look out for if Bob's choice comes up. Please, no. I agree. It's going to be a real tight matchup. Chucky, a.k.a. No. Ginger Dead Man. Bob's choice could be Ginger Dead Man.

This is Chucky. Okay, well, Nemesis absolutely stomps Chucky. Nemesis would destroy Chucky. That's not a very good fight. Chucky's not even derisive. Yeah, that's not close. What? What? What, what do you mean? Not even.

Why is derisive the thing? Ghostface versus Nemesis. I don't think Ghostface has a chance. Isn't Ghostface just like a teenage kid in a mask or like a mid early 20s? It's like 30 different people in a mask because every movie it's a different person because the previous one's defeated. In the first movie, isn't it the lore actually that it's both of those guys that at different points in the movie, the shoes are different and it's both of the guys, but they're just guys.

Yeah. No shot. No shot. No shot. No shot. Nemesis is tough. That doesn't seem very fair. Nemesis versus Samara.

Interesting. I don't know. Even if Samara drowned Nemesis, I don't know if that would kill it. I don't know even if samara like drowned nemesis i don't know if that would kill it i don't know if that would kill it yeah i just see samara starts to try to crawl out of the tv and nemesis just rocket launchers it to hell well okay but if it's like samara is kind of like a ghost spirit and nemesis is technically alive we did conclude that gun that chainsaws would not actually kill samara so we could conclude that a rocket launcher might not actually kill samara yeah but it would blow up any tvs nearby yeah i mean destroying the physical tape would be what you'd have to do

to kill samara right because it's i don't know if that was enough or not how did they stop her they didn't they just made a copy you make a copy of the tape oh they passed it along i don't think samara's winning because i don't think samara could kill nemesis i don't think samara could get nemesis off the hill is really where we're where i'm at because every time nemesis kind of gets blown up or smitherooned i think nemesis just grows kind of bigger so how do you you feel, Bob? Oh, you could. You also can defeat Samara by watching the video backwards. Is that true? That's what this says that you traditionally what you do is you make a copy or you just show it to someone else.

But also Samara specifically, the ring character could be defeated by watching the video in reverse. Interesting. Is Nemesis watching TV? Is he going to be like, rewind? I don't know. I don't know. I defer to Mark. It's got to be Nemesis. I think't know. I don't know. I defer to Mark.

It's got to be Nemesis. I think it's got to be Nemesis. Nemesis stays on the hill. Jigsaw. So Nemesis was killed by a normal person and Jigsaw's pretty intricate with his technology and traps. Obviously if they're just like in a room together, Jigsaw's fucked. This old man with cancer

is getting rocket launchered and then shoved inside of Nemesis. How much prep time does Jigsaw's fucked this old man with cancer is getting rocket launchered and then shoved inside of nemesis how much prep time does jigsaw get for this fight because like traps are kind of a big deal in the resident evil universe in general that's a lot of what moves things forward and makes things happen in in that world well if we're assuming they're all in their primes or whatever then he would have a chance to have his battleground set up i guess yeah if if it's ideal scenario for jigsaw this takes place in his own like warehouse of wonders right where everything's all set up is he smart enough and savvy enough to to take a nemesis out or does

nemesis just rocket launcher everything into abyss well nemesis could also just blow through the walls and stuff too he wouldn't necessarily have to stop to solve a puzzle probably still nemesis right probably yeah probably it's a very long king of the hill pinhead so i'm not as familiar with pinheads all of his abilities he's the guy from hellraiser oh right so you have to have like a it's a weird like cube thing that like summons him or something i don't remember what he wants um okay pinhead is invulnerable, ageless, immortal, capable of teleportation, magically disguising himself as other people and transforming humans into Cenobites. That sounds pretty

tough. Yeah, how did they stop him in the movies? I don't think they did. What is a Cenobite? Cenobites are extra-dimensional beings who exist in an extra-dimensional realm. Well, that's some nonsense. If you look on the Wikipedia for Hellraiser, is that Nemesis in the background?

There's a picture of Nemesis back there. It sure looks like him. Is Nemesis secretly a Cenobite? I just linked it. Tell me, look at the guy in the back right, and then look up a picture of Nemesis. Okay, I mean... Oh. Huh. I know, right? He's already converted him, so did Pinhead

win? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, if they're on the same team and Pinhead is the king of the C-No-Bites, Pinhead wins? Yeah, probably Pinhead wins. Okay, Pinhead. Wow, we finally have a... Who's going to beat him? Oh, we'll find out.

Ginger dead man. Ginger dead man. Jason. I don't know if Jason wins. If Nemesis didn't. He's basically invulnerable so i'm not sure how he loses but i'm also not sure how he wins i feel like hellraiser would probably just be like impressed but i don't know if jason's killing i don't even know what pinhead can do

and i'm probably still just kind of like pinhead has like the like demonic powers that like like tortures people and his mode of killing is pulling them apart with hooked chains it doesn't sound like that would kill jason but also there's just no way jason is getting the jump on this guy yeah probably not i feel like you have to beat pinhead with intelligence and jason's just kind of like a brute malevolent force slender versus pinhead interesting so slender is supernatural as is pinhead i feel like slender is not nearly as destructive or violent but it gets the job done against humans it's just like anytime you read the wikipedia about pinhead it's always going to be like nearly unlimited power and highly versatile and not bound by rules governing other Cenobites.

Telekinetically control vast areas, transmute matter, create and control fire, and animate objects. I mean, I don't even like Pinhead and I think he wins. Alright. Pyramid Head versus the Pinhead. A lot of head actions. A lot of head. A lot of fixed skateboards. I don't even know

what Pyramid Head can do. He has a blade. He just charges around and kills people with his big blade, right? Yeah, it's probably gonna be Pinhead. I don't even know if this is much of a debate. This is the speed round. Leatherface, just a dude. Yeah, he's just a dude. Yeah, no shot.

No shot. Dracula versus Pinhead. I mean, Pinhead absolutely has the capacity to just will a wooden spike through dracula's heart without even moving a muscle right like i don't or probably even just like move the earth to go where you're in the sun now it's like one of those like zelda breath of the wild puzzles where it's like he's just holding the earth and he's like oh son oh gotcha he's very pale and wears all black he might also not like the sun nah nah i think it's gonna be psychic powers i think i think we i think we created a

monster i think pinhead was a sleeper on there i guess so then there were three okay what is who is alma wade from fear like samara basically like telekinesis goal ghostly ghost but has yeah has more like direct i'm gonna slam this person's body around actually might be a good matchup so comparable to pinhead in terms of like magical supernatural telekinetic type ability type stuff maybe i don't know how she ends up getting stopped if she even does is she a character is she like do you fight her directly or does she just like exist benevolently in the world i don't know how she ends up getting stopped if she even does is she a character is she like do you fight her directly or does she just like exist benevolently in the world i don't know i've never played the games uh i don't remember how it finished but i i think it is a situation where like she's either like i don't know like her physical body is trapped away somewhere or

she's dead i have no idea but chat gpt says both are incredibly powerful beings, so a fight between the two would be a clash of titans in the horror genre. The odds that ChatGPT is saying it's around 50-50. Alma's psychic abilities could potentially give her the upper hand, however Pinhead's own mastery over pain and reality could counterbalance that, making it a tough call. This clash would be where strategy and timing rather than brute force determine the victor so flip a coin i guess well i will say uh pinhead maybe it wasn't too hard but uh that it's the it's worn down and it's been fighting off a lot that's true this is king of the hill and that is part of the strategy pinhead has fought a lot and not all weaklings either okay we can give it to alma just to change

it up a little bit it's 50 50 it's fun to have a new new one one final spin uh freddy krueger eh that's another interesting matchup because if freddy can get like into her head while she's sleeping well but she can change she could travel dimensions and stuff is like part of her abilities like this is they both kind of operate i'm in the game fear oh wait a something called the almiverse is a sleep-like world created by alma which are actually her own mind manipulations of destructive nightmares on the opponent. She works in the world of sleepy nightmares. Ooh. That's a vulnerability to Freddy, right? That's like how Freddy works.

Yeah, if he can't even be strong in his nightmares, which is the only place he really exists. Well, that's the question. Who would have the advantage in manipulating the nightmare? Because that's what they both do. I mean, Alma actually has psychic powers and has the ability to, like, change reality. Alma also has something called the Wall of Death.

What? Excuse me? A large, 50-foot-plus-tall smoke fog wall with dozens of faces on it. Getting close to the Wall of Death, you will start to hear some deep, heavy screaming, and entering the Wall of Death kills you, regardless of anything. That seems kind of unfair.

That doesn't seem good. It's gotta be like once per long rest or something though, right? I attached something like that. I mean, Jesus. Well, long rest. She's taking a nap anyway, so it's in the dream. Are we saying Alma wins? I think actually. I'm like the wall of death versus I've got

blade fingers. Yeah. I'm gonna tickle you. Bed did not laugh. Yeah, I wonder what the last spin's gonna land on and I wonder what I'll pick. Oh, it's

my choice. Would you look at that? No, yes, no, yes, yes no yes no okay fine the wheel doesn't like it i just want to see if i agree with your choice yes you do we all know that the mythical being who is here to get rid of alma and ultimately become the king of the hill is the ginger dead man god damn it the ginger dead man does he even sleep you know definitely not he's got dark powers he's got dark magical powers actually can't she just wall of death him uh he's not technically alive he's more like a possessed thing so i really don't think killing him is what you need to do i don't think that's gonna get rid of him it's the soul the soul

of the the gary busey character is is inhabiting but he's dead there's no way she kills pinhead and everyone else and then loses to a cookie i mean one of his main abilities is that he's pliable oh yeah so no amount of telekinetic manipulation no amount of big heavy objects hitting him crushing him is he's pliable that's not what pliable means that is what pliable means and and we cannot deny alma is a child and the ginger dead man is very derisive and children are children are incredibly vulnerable to derisive comments yeah it's absolutely isn't she not a child that's just the she's like a 47 year old lady or something but she projects a child it's you know but you know what you know what her one of her main weaknesses is her children her children

point man which is apparently a person's name and paxton fettle her second son i think ginger dead man could be incredibly cuttingly derisive towards her vulnerable children that would absolutely devastate alma okay so the way that chat gpt is crunching the numbers right now it works out probably that it would be about an 85 to 15 percent uh battle between alma and the ginger dead man i just so happen to have a wheel here uh with the odds listed up right here i just want to say that chat gbt has given me five different ways that the ginger dead man could absolutely defeat alma wade uh way number one cookie mind games way number two confectionery magic way number three candy assault way number four baking ritual way number five psychic jokes psychic jokes no one

would ever think of psychic jokes i almost powers are psychic in nature she would be very vulnerable to psychic jokes right right well uh i'm just gonna spin the wheel um and we'll see what happens it's it's gonna be tough battle come on ginger dead man oh no thank god three out of five three out of five three to five three to five three to five it was right there right there oh my god oh son of a bitch well that wasn't three that wasn't three hold on here we go three in a row three in a row Stupid probabilities No no no no

Not even a ginger dead in sight Four out of seven Come on come on this was this all lined up For this to be the perfect finish Yes yes Cut the rest of that out ginger dead man wins Yes we win No no

We have a winner Cut the rest of that out. Ginger Dead Man wins. Yes! We cut it out! No! We have a winner! Ginger Dead Man is the champion. It's his hill now. It is. He's the king of it, and all of us losers need to get the hell off of it. Or God help us, he will deride us. Yeah, we don't want to be derided.

The derision is coming. Yeah. Thank you all so much for watching. Today's winner is Bob. Because Bob found us the ginger dead man. Hey, wait a minute. Congrats, Bob. Mark, you died on this hill because you went along with ginger dead man.

Your tire didn't even make it to the final. Robert Rubber never stood a chance. Hey, wait, I was having so much fun this whole time, I didn't realize I could lose. That's right, you managed. Let us know somewhere, Reddit, wherever, what you think about the ginger dead man

being the most powerful horror villain, monster, whatever. Mark, do you have a loser speech? Yeah, so sometimes, you know, given the right circumstances, given the right opportunities, the underdog sometimes does have the upper hand. And just because I didn't win this one doesn't mean that 15 out of 85 times I wouldn't win. Bob. I think we really got to the core of what you wanted us to talk about.

I think we dug deeper than you expected and also went more broad than you thought we could. I think your disappointment stems from a disappointment in yourself because you know that you goofed by leaving the ginger dead man out of the list to begin with. I think the viewers and the listeners are going to be quite satisfied with the fact that Mark and I navigated us to the correct result despite your shortcomings as a host so i i deserve this win and i uh appreciate it and you're welcome for saving the episode way thank you it was going to flounder without you guys if you haven't already uh check out us i guess mark markiplier bob my skirm i'm wade million seven seven lord million seven seven merch now we're back to no on that that's still

no stay tuned for uh the next one where bob will host and i'm sure it will have nothing to do with ginger dead or man until then i'm cast out