Distractible - Solving The Unsolvable

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Why humans sleep, the creation of the universe, alien life: today the guys attempt to solve these great mysteries... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractible, a Wood Elf production. This week, Wade wants to explore the mystery of why we sleep and the expansion of the universe. Mark gets spooky about gases, games, and deprivation. Divine Bob makes his body into a huge temple and jammers about Firefly and E.T. Yes, it's time for Solving the Unsolvable. Now, sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hey everybody, welcome back to Distractible. I'm your host today.

Wait, uh, this is the show where we do things and uh... What was that? That was my name. Wait, wait. No, okay. First way forward. Oh, as you can tell by the other voices interrupting my beautiful intro, I'm joined by my friends Mark and Bob. Bob.

Hey. Bob. Mark. Mark. Bob. I'm Wade. Wade. Wade.

This is a show where, I don't know, we talk about stuff, we come up with our own little format, whoever's hosting can kind of do their own thing. They assign points arbitrarily or by some rules they establish, and we announce a winner at the end. That person hosts the next episode. So, there you you go what's the game show this week host nothing all right very creative i have a topic for us to discuss but we're gonna throw it back to the og days of like two months ago where we didn't have like a thing every time we're just gonna have a good old-fashioned sit down campfire fireside chat

i love on the subreddit all the posts that are like back in my day distractible had titles for their stories and they and they told personal stories it's all ruined now in the modern era yeah yeah it's not that not that all of a podcast sorry guys i'm sorry guys we've evolved you know it's it is one of those things that when you think about it like because we've been on the internet for a very long time so the time scale of which people are accustomed to change is very small in comparison like we've been doing this for nearly 10 years all of us but yeah if people are on the internet one year is a long time and if things deviate in one year that's no good it's like oh god can't deal with anything

it's so long ago we've been on the internet for 10 10 10 time units and years the internet has changed us it has it absolutely has my my youtube account and my twitch account are both over 10 years now i didn't make any content until like november of 2012 but the accounts 10 years old where's your youtube account oh, make a compilation, Wade. I think my YouTube account is like 2014 or something. I was late. A compilation of all my old stuff would be the equivalent of getting a baby diaper and just showing people a picture of the innards after it's been used.

Gross. Hey, guys. Welcome back to episode 38 of Settlers of Catan. Oh, when are you going to pick it up again? Yeah, when are you going to finish that series, man? Maybe that's my plan for 10 years. Nothing but Settlers of Catan. Oh, when are you going to pick it up again? Yeah, when are you going to finish that series, man? Maybe that's my plan for 10 years. Nothing but Settlers of Catan for the next 10. I am so curious of how many of distractible listeners are aware of some of our older series

that we have done. Like how many people out there are aware of Drunk Minecraft? And if you want more Mark Bobway content, there is a wealth of it. But it's back in time before we became the performers we are today. Yeah, it's really boring. Don't watch it. Okay. A lot of people claim to be viewers.

Like I've had hundreds of people like, I was your top 10 subscriber. It's like, really? Well, you're the 500th top 10 subscriber I had. My community has a really simple test. The test is they're like, oh, I love love i've been a watcher for a long time i love your community i love it you stream on facebook yeah okay well not anymore i had someone in stream the other day that was like i've been watching you mark and bob for like 12 to 15 years now and i was like really that's five years where we weren't making content you creepy person why are you staring at us like i've had i had someone just

the other day that was like oh i've been subscribed to you since 2010 oh i'm so proud of how far you come and i'm like yikes have you which account my neighbor markiplier.com dude i didn't even have a youtube account until i started doing YouTube. It's weird to think about. I made my YouTube account to comment on your videos because I didn't want to have Wade Barnes as my caption. I was like, I'm just going to come up with something to comment so I can not be me. I was like, oh, just Lord Minion.

No one will ever know it's a stupid name. Lord Minion. I think I literally made my account to have an email which is why my name is like the school assigned six plus two uh mail address thing it wasn't even a username i picked on purpose and this is my whole life now i told you guys long ago like you could change those if you want it's not too late i don't want to be barnes goo i'm going to stick with lord minion now it's now it's too late back then when

you had like a few hundred or a thousand subscribers you're like but i got a thousand subscribers which at the time i get it but it was still just like there's too many then it's too many now can't change just imagine how many good names there could be touch my bob 69 touch my bob wow uh there was a i forget oh man amy just showed me the video i'm gonna get roasted i don't know but if someone took ninja's master class on streaming and then tried to become drew gooden yeah drew gooden yeah and then tried to like, a Twitch streamer using those techniques. And what I was fascinated by, like, Drew Gooden has a popular channel. You'd think that people would, more people would have stumbled across his stream.

But freaking nobody did, and nobody recognized him. It's just like, that was just so heart-crushingly depressing. He did a really good job of, like, keeping that secret and masking it. I mean, he didn't really disguise himself or anything but no no it was yeah the the 24 hour stream he did was such a funny ride yeah man i can't believe that like i've done in 24 hours you guys have probably done 24 hour streams maybe i imagine both of you have i don't know i've tended to avoid it like 14 or 16 is the longest i've done but yeah 24 hours a slog 24 hours that's a lot i was gonna do a 48 but i hit my charity goal way before at 24 hours so i was like i guess i can go to

sleep now all right bye i just don't like the long-term health ramifications of doing like long content without sleeping and stuff well thank god you take such care of your body outside of streaming you know i've actually a temple i've been doing last week i i decided i was finally like oh you know what i'm gonna lose 30 40 pounds i'm just gonna do it so i've been eating better i've been ordering out less been trying to do more stuff at home and uh i'm trying to do the elliptical uh three to five days a week as well as doing push-ups and sit-ups and stuff that's really good yeah yeah i've also been starting back in workouts with alex i bought a treadmill a cheap one.

It has a permanent incline. So it's like the motor is like under it. So it's just like an incline or not. I like kind of wanted the incline because I like walking at an incline for just like pure exercise. But it's at an 11 percent incline. So it's pretty intense. That's deep. So I'm always walking at a very steep incline. And it's really great because I'm just walking at like two and a half miles an hour. But my heart rate just rockets up like 140 just because it's like. How long do you go? An hour usually. I try to go for about an hour.

Well, I put on like a TV show or something or a Korean show. Running Man usually. But it's been nice. You want to something kind of this? I guess it's kind of cringe. I went back and I started watching rewatching your old Outlast 1 playthrough. Oh, really? Where I was doing the elliptical I found that like watching horror games got me more like zoned in and I was like, oh if I watch people play horror games

I'm thinking less about what I'm putting my body through and more so about what's happening on screen And so I'm trying to go back and just find a horror content like old horror content And that's what I'm watching while I'm exercising and it's been more helpful than music more helpful than other things I've been trying to watch. You should watch his Dead Space playthroughs. Oh. I've never watched Dead Space or played it. I don't want to be that guy, but all three of your Dead Space playthroughs,

I've watched every single video. They're like some of my favorite Let's Play series online. Oh, thanks, man. That means a lot. What happened to you? You used to make such good content. I know, that was good stuff back then, man. No, the Dead Space remake is coming out out soon and i do want to play that it's

just like there hasn't been a lot of really good long horror games specific games those are the let's plays i like doing long series of i don't really like doing long series of any other game type besides horror games i should just go i should redo you honestly good you know i've thought about going back and redoing old games that I've not done in a long time. Revisiting Outlast and stuff. I've thought about it. You were talking about how people don't know all the content that's out there of us and whatever.

You could redo series and so many people haven't been around and seen those and they'd be like, he's playing The Dark Descent. Yeah, absolutely. Didn't you do a fadaf revisited or something yeah people enjoy that and that's been less time since those dead space ones like i definitely could and it's not even like a milking content thing i really want to go back i just did

a video yesterday where i was playing a horror game and a sound reminded me of slender the eight pages i was telling you this before i started recording yeah yeah you did and uh it was one of the things where i had to stop go download download Slender the Eight Pages and play it again. It was like a burst of nostalgia. But then I realized I was still scared of it. I was still getting spooked by it because I had forgotten just that it actually was a scary game when you have been like away from it for so long. And also just like it's a different era of type of horror game. And the mechanics with which it does jump after you and kind of like jump you.

It's cheap sometimes, but it works. And I was like was like man there was a reason why this kind of like popped off the way it did yeah it is what it is well i guess i should take us as we could talk about this for an entire episode probably but uh i do have a topic for today yeah i suppose it's a little bit on the philosophical side but it's something i i don't know i've been thinking about uh whenever i thought about health and things like that i never feel like I have enough time in the day sometimes because of like sleep and just being so busy and it's like why do I even need to sleep and that brought me to the question of like unsolved

secrets of the universe or unsolved mysteries of things like for example that question why do we need to sleep from what I know there is not a definitive actual answer that we know for sure is why we sleep okay that we know for sure is why we sleep. Well, okay, that we know definitely is the reason we sleep.

Maybe scientists would not draw such a strong conclusion. I feel like we understand the fundamental reasons why a human body needs sleep. I mean, to an extent, yes. But what does sleep actually do? How does it work? There's so many things. I just want us to theorize a bit today. We're going to put on our science caps and we're gonna solve a few different mysteries of the unit without looking anything up

Are we doing this? Other people's theories you can just guess on it. Whatever There's no strings attached to create a structure mark. Okay, okay if we're if you're cool that way You are the researcher you're allowed to look at whatever you want and find the truth if it exists and see what people think. I will not research anything. That sounds great. I will offer you only the knowledge I already have and or any crazy ass theory that I decide

to come up with. I don't even think I need to research. I think I'm just going to listen to your guys's theories and whichever one sounds better. I'll, you know, maybe they'll get the point. You could just decide what's true. You are the arbitrary. I am playing God today. You will decide what's right. All right.

Okay. So I'll take the role of trying to do as good research as possible, but I might just happen to mix in anything that I feel is necessary. It doesn't have to be, like, good research. Just, you're allowed to Google stuff and whatever. Uh-huh. It's as much research as most people would do with a cursory google search right yeah you're you're you're bro trust me and i'm a conspiracy boy whatever you all want okay all right okay cool both bad options but we're making it happen all right ride so our first question will be sleep explain sleep why do we sleep what does sleep do for us

those kinds of things okay i don't know in like a scientific way but i feel like i know a little bit about this that is real okay or maybe real i'm pretty sure one of the main functions of sleep is to allow your brain to essentially get to restart. That part of what happens when you sleep is that memories and information goes from short-term to long-term memory in your brain. And it's how you process all of the information that you take in consciously and subconsciously. And it allows you, when you wake up the next day, you feel mentally refreshed because your brain has done whatever it does, which I don't know how the process works, to like purge the intake, the in pile, get what's important stored away, maybe, hopefully.

And then you start the next day because there's so much info you take in. You don't see it all or you're not aware of it all, but you're constantly taking in every sense of taking in info every moment you're awake. Cumulatively, it's just a lot. So I think that's a big, important function of sleep is that your brain literally needs to like purge the inbox and start fresh. Okay.

All right. I think that's acceptable. You know, it didn't have a title to it, but you know, it's cute. It's cute. Are we doing titles? It's a cute news. Well, the, you know, when we were a good podcast we did yeah when we were a good podcast the title for that retroactively is the honest to god truth wow that's believable okay the honest me being god today that's honest to me

i do like you being honest to me yeah my title my glorious title is called the russian sleep experiment oh no come on come on yeah that's a nightmare that's an actually it's the truth it's the truth you know this way do you know what he's referencing I believe so but I you know for the sake of everyone out there listening go ahead okay Russian researchers in the late 1940s kept five people awake for 15 days using an experimental gas-based stimulant they were kept in a sealed environment to carefully monitor their oxygen intake so the gas didn't kill them, since it was toxic in high concentrations. This was

before closed-circuit cameras, so they had only microphones and 5-inch thick glass porthole-sized windows into the chamber to monitor them. The chamber was stocked with books, cots to sleep on, but no bedding, running water and toilet and enough dried food. They weren't kept in separate cells. It was one big room. One big room, right? Big room. Everything

was fine for the first five days. The subjects hardly complained about having been promised falsely that they would be freed if they submitted to the test and did not sleep for 30 days. Their conversations and activities were monitored and it was noted that they continued to talk about increasingly traumatic incidents in their past and the general tone of their conversation took on a darker aspect after the four-day mark. After five days, they started to complain about the circumstances and events that led them to where they were and started to demonstrate severe paranoia. They stopped talking to each other and began alternately whispering to the microphones and one-way mirrored portholes. Oddly, they all seemed to think that they could win the trust of

the experimenters by turning over their comrades, the other subjects in captivity, with them. At first, the researchers suspected this was an effect of the gas itself. After nine days, the first of them started screaming. There's a lot more to this. I won't read the entirety of it. And I will just say this last blurb towards the end here.

There's a lot of gory details and this might be gory. Yes. Oh, plug your ears. It's going to be a little gory. Content warning. The second survivor had been the first of the group of five to start screaming his vocal cords destroyed he was unable to beg or object to surgery and he only reacted by shaking his head violently in disproval when

the anesthetic gas was brought near him he shook his head yes when someone suggested reluctantly that they try the surgery without anesthetic and did not react for the entire six-hour procedure of replacing his abdominal organs and attempting to cover them with what remained of his skin. The surgeon presiding stated repeatedly that it should be medically impossible for the patient to still be alive. One terrified nurse assisting the surgery stated that she had seen patients' mouth curl into a smile several times whenever his eyes met her. When the surgery ended, the subject looked at the surgeon and began to wheeze loudly, attempting to talk while struggling. Assuming this must have been something of drastic importance, the surgeon had a pen and pad

fetched so the patient could write his message. It was simple. Quote, keep cutting. End quote. The other two said subjects were given the same surgery, both without anesthetic as well, although they had to be injected with a paralytic for the duration of the operation. The surgeon found it impossible to perform the operations while the patients laughed continuously. Once paralyzed, the subjects could only follow the attending researchers with their eyes. The paralytic cleared their system in an abnormally short period of time, and they were soon trying to escape their bonds. The moment they could speak again, they were asking for the stimulant gas.

The researchers tried asking why they had injured themselves, why they had ripped open their own guts, and why they wanted to be given the gas again. The only response given was, quote, I must remain awake, end quote. So i think that's why we need sleep yay beautiful so you don't become a crazed drug gas addicted psychopath how many days was it where they hit this point like nine the total thing was 15 days they kind of awake nines when they really start like four days are actually funny nine days they really lost it they were the last subject no normal normal i think like 15 yeah okay something like that day four they're like okay they're they're acting a little strange then day nine they were this isn't good and then day 15 they're like cut me open surgeon

daddy there are basically um more of those things from the the firefly universe reavers reapers reavers the bad guys in firefly who were like self-mutilating space crazed i've never watched fire i've never watched it either so so I don't know. What? I know. I've heard it's really good, but it only goes one season, so I'm like, I don't want to feel the disappointment everyone else does. It's worth watching. If you know it ends, then you get to just enjoy it, and then when it ends, you're just

like, ah, okay. But does it have an ending? No, it ends with a lot of open storylines. Okay, great. That would drive me nuts. It ends with an obvious expectation of having another season but there's a movie which is okay the show is really good though but anyway that is effectively that description of the the mentality of the survivors is like what the what the bad

guys in well some of the bad guys in the firefly universe are very scary i don't want to like rain on this too early but isn't this fake isn't this fiction oh no one can know oh okay who can i can't research it so i'll just trust you researcher mark who could yeah i guess i have to as well i don't know i could research it but man what's true not true well what is true wade god daddy oh that's true well not true? Well, what is true, Wade God Daddy? Yeah, that's true. Well, so where I got this idea from, I had the idea about sleep. So I was looking up like mysteries and things. This website, interestingengineering.com has an article, just to cite my source here,

the six greatest unsolved mysteries of the universe by Zachary Tomlinson. So credit to you. Tomlinson. So there's all kinds of things here that he mentions about sleep. I'm going to read his little blurb here. The simplest of theories is purely that sleep is energy saving based on the fact nature values and activity

and storing energy for what is not needed. Animals that use a lot of energy are not going to survive. Problem is humans are very different from most animals. Big complex brains may use sleep differently than the organisms. Another popular theory is sleep

allows the brain to purge itself of unnecessary information. What Bob was talking about. Yes, my theory is popular uh sleep is the price we pay for learning aha um that's weird that's threatening it's the price you pay however while we know that that is how long-term memory works it goes into like how like you know long-term memory stuff neurons i'll read it recent research suggests that sleep allows strong neural connections we form when learning to become pliable enough to fit in with the rest of the information stored inside our head. But no one's been able to prove that sleep is how that process occurs.

It happens while we sleep, but is it because we're asleep or is it because, you know, who knows? We can't prove that part of it. However, to Mark's point here, without sleep, attention starts to lapse, intelligence plummets, body starts to ache, and eventually we die. So the intelligence plummeting can be a bit of like okay the conspiracy crazed thing so i think they're all related but it's interesting do we get energy back when we sleep is it powering our bodies down like if we're just talking about it what makes sense here because an eight hour sleep right people assume eight hours is what you would get on average or what like your body would want to get if it could always choose that's how much i sleep yeah yeah some people only sleep like we have a friend that only sleeps like four

or five hours a night and then he's like i wake up on my own i'm good for the day my body likes eight hours if i can get eight hours i'm good if i can get nine hours i'm great if i can get seven hours begrudging what is what billowing begrudging oh begrudging okay i thought you said billowing grudging life i'm bellowing if if, I thought you said billowing. Begrudging life. I'm bellowing. If eight hours makes you grazed, then what does ten hours give you? I think if I sleep more than nine, then my body, I wake up and I feel that groggy feeling. Like if I took too much melatonin and woke up earlier or something, where it's kind of like, I'm awake, but I still feel a little bit of like, not hangover.

It's almost like that light hangover feeling or whatever, where your body is just kind of like a little dazed. So too much sleep, I feel that way. Gotcha. But a third of our day, let let's say devoted to sleeping is a lot for our lot a third of our lives we in theory sleep away which is kind of crazy well what's interesting is like some animals sleep different amounts like obviously we have a giant brain so obviously if if it was to do with the brain we would need more sleep but i think horses sleep like two hours uh horses those dumb horses if only they had brains yeah 2.9 hours in terms of the animal kingdom it's a

large animal but how big is their brain do they have a large brain i don't know um horses are pretty smart like i've seen a lot of evidence that horses can i don't know but they seem to be as smart as like dogs and stuff they can be trained yeah they clearly connect with humans and have like emotional connections they're not just like oh run around oh big jump they they feel stuff they learn stuff yeah yeah and you know and pretty complicated stuff they're capable of learning and understanding yeah oh big jump oh well some animals like um like hibernating animals right like there's like frogs that bury themselves in the mud for like months at a time bears hibernate do they sleep the entire time they hibernate yeah but that's

a survival tactic for like conserving energy as opposed to sleep which could be construed as like it's a conserving energy thing yeah but it could be be construed as like it's a conserving energy thing but it could be a combination of all of it like you need to conserve energy but also like horses you know they're kind of nothing really horses aren't fucked with in the animal kingdom for the most part other than by their horses no yeah but it's it's kind of one of the things where they so they don't have too many natural predators and humans don't really hunt them that much so they kind of like didn't need to conserve as much energy because they can just go eat whatever the grass they want and that's readily available so

maybe they needed less energy conservation and then for their brain size because dogs if they are a similar intelligence dogs sleep like 12 to 14 hours a day they sleep all the time yeah they love sleeping um so it's like i wonder i don't know dog history all that much but a lot of the like most of if not all the breeds we know now were intentionally mixed over the years to become the breeds they are so like the original dogs are what like wolves coyotes wolves yeah i think so that's usually the most understood what was the origin of a dachshund i believe a lot of the specific breeds were sort of selected and or developed because they were bred by people for a purpose and so they sort of evolved to have features that fitted that well they also don't have to worry about much

because they're in a house all the time so i wonder if like a wolf or a coyote has a different amount of sleep than like a house trained dog i don't know if most dogs are house dogs or not i would be curious i would guess that most dogs in the world especially if you include like strays and stuff probably outside dogs i know there's a lot of house dogs in america and in you know certain parts of the world but dogs are kind of outside even little dogs like little terriers and dachshunds and stuff they're hunters i mean the dachshunds were like uh rodent hunters right that's why they're so short and long yeah they root around they go through the barn and whatever and they hunt they hunt rats and things dogs kind of are outside animals but i don't know yeah i

mean i was gonna say something else but now i've forgotten it because the dog thing oh i had another point but i didn't want to move on from this i have another point that's like another topic we can discuss about sleep this is pretty casual well you're god so whatever you think well i was just say i can't say if one comes from the other but there's an obvious thing that contributes to why people and animals might sleep in the nighttime which is you can't do shit at night you live in a world where a big bonfire in the middle of camp or candles or whatever, whatever light sources you have are fire-based and relatively shitty compared to modern lighting where you could basically have daytime constantly wherever you are, outdoors,

whatever, unless your species evolved to be like nocturnal and you have some level of night vision or like bats can do stuff at night because they don't really see anyway they mostly use the sonar echolocation type of stuff why would you be awake at night it's boring it doesn't serve a purpose it's more dangerous as a human in whatever historic time to be outside and not be able to see if there is predator a danger you can't do anything useful so you might as well sleep. You got a point. Probably that has an evolutionary significance

in why so many animals sleep through the night or tend to sleep at night. But obviously not all animals do that. Some animals are nocturnal. Some animals, like dogs, kind of sleep on and off over the course of a day. And they have pretty good, like, have a lot of rods, right? Dogs have sweet rods. What? They have a lot of rods, right? Dogs have sweet rods. What? They have a lot of rods?

Rods are the things in your eyeball that are responsible for night vision, right? Because cones give you color, but rods are more sensitive. I must have missed the eye conversation. No, I didn't premise it at all. I just said that dogs have great rods. I just followed because I used to work with eyes. Right, right. Okay.

At first I thought dick, but then I was like oh he means eyes i do mean i don't like that you were the one to come to the logical conclusion and i was the one thinking dicks dumb mark who doesn't understand anything i'm sorry yeah maybe you should research rods over there well how long are we gonna research sleep because i got a lot more big dog rods i'm not gonna google that i'm not gonna do it i don't know what comes up but it must be funny are there any living things that don't need to sleep at all maybe like viruses or bacteria but it depends how wide your scope of living is yeah living organisms that are not like big multicellular animal type things probably don't ever sleep jellyfish uh most plants you know okay it's kind of like pretty much anything with a brain sleeps take that jellyfish yeah i was gonna say yeah i don't know much about them i know they're

they're weird oh apparently bullfrogs maybe don't sleep but it's inconclusive because they were tests strangely okay never mind never mind we don't know moving on how do you test that you have a bullfrog you just sit up all night and every 10 minutes like hey you asleep and he's like nope hey gary you awake still yep yep still awake i don't know it's it seems like they just shocked it to see if it was awake but i'm like that would wake me up yeah so when my cursory glance at that said it was like they shock it and like... Give it a big old slap on the ass. And if it moves, we know it's awake. Is it awake?

Oh, yes, awake, boss. Every half hour, we throw it against the wall. And when it lands on the ground, it looks back and is like, ah! And we're like, oh, he's awake. Weirdly enough, after the 50th throw, it finally went to sleep. It's still sleeping. It's been sleeping for weeks now. Crazy.

Not so even. Well, obviously I was right and I'm a genius. All right. Because that guy in that article you quoted said what I said. He even said purges and I said purges.

I'll give you four points. There you go, Bob. That sounds like a lot of points. That's a lot of points. Mark, you want some points? Yeah, I'll take some. You get two. Oh, cool.

Hell yeah. Half the points for half the research. All right. i was twice as right i don't know all right what's another interesting fun topic what about the origin of the universe that's a fun one that won't make people mad oh yeah that's real easy i know the answer to that so there's the big bang theory i think everyone's heard of that and maybe watch the show that show it's a fine that's alive and we have the cast of that show not here today so thank you all for not joining oh okay sorry you guys thought it was gonna be a fun surprise and we don't have those here but there's a big bang theory obviously there's different um religious theories as to the start you know uh god and i'm sure there's the gods and stuff from

other uh nations and whatnot things that are beyond my scope of knowledge but that's an interesting one because no matter what you think about there has to be something that came first right that's the part that nobody can wrap their minds around is well what came first but if they came first what came before them or they just always were if that's the case why can't the universe just have always been but the universe there are theories that the universe is still expanding and growing which means that it was once much smaller if not a nothing but then boomed uh people think that we're part of an organism so it was just like a sperm meeting an egg and that was the big bang and all of a sudden we're like in the liver of some giant creature the mitochondria we're the mitochondria? We're the powerhouse.

No, we're the cancer, dude. Look at you. We're the cancer of the cell. There's no way we're a good thing. Hey, we've done some good things before a few times here and there. For ourselves, not for the planet or the universe. Well, so have I hung a tree once. That should count for something.

Oh, cool, man. What have you done? What have you done? I don't know uh killed a lot of the animals and eaten them that were probably supposed to be the mitochondria destroy the tree to terrorize a raccoon once i did do that yeah i showed that tree and that raccoon was but if i'm a good person and i'm definitely still cancer i think people are probably cancer for whatever being we're in but that's another one but what do you guys think about the origins of the universe i am not going to presume to know enough to preclude anyone else's understanding of it no

i believe in science let's leave it at that i don't want to ruffle any feathers because i'm not going to tell anyone what to believe i don don't know the answer. But I think it's an interesting question in terms of what humans and human perception is capable of really understanding. So you think about the universe, and I don't know the numbers on this and I can't look them up, but you think about the universe, timescales, human timescale is measured in like thousands of years. Even if you go back to our genetic ancestors, it's like tens of thousands of years, right? Which doesn't really even compare to geological timescale in terms of how long the Earth as a planet has existed, how our solar system formed, and what we know and understand about how all that works. That's measured in a whole different scale of years than humans

really can appreciate. And so the universal time scale is so much bigger than that. I feel like it's not even within the realm of where humanity is and how our brains work to appreciate and understand what that answer is. Even if some being or God or whatever told us the answer, I don't think humans could really process it and understand what that meant. I heard this thing, the Voyager probe. It was originally supposed to be launched in the 70s, I think. And it was originally supposed to have a mission length of like five years or something like relatively short. It's still going. It's been doing extended mission stuff. And now it's like leaving our solar system. And it's just passing like Neptune or just past Neptune, something like that. And it's going to take, I swear, I think the article said it's going to take 30,000 years

or possibly 3,000, some number of thousands of years to technically leave our solar system. And it's not traveling insanely fast. It's not like approaching light speed or anything. But like humanity might be gone from Earth. The Earth might not even exist or you know have suffered a dramatic solar flare or something and that little probe that we launched into space will not even have left our solar system so i just the voyager will have gone to get milk and he'll be like it's coming back and it'll finally come back with the milk and the house

is gone yeah but like so i just feel like humans are not in a place physiologically or socially to understand and appreciate what an answer to that question might even be. The answer might be out there in terms of the physics and what we could measure and perceive in the universe,

but there's no way we'd really understand it because we don't understand the universe. We understand humanity and it's like, you know, an ant trying to understand what an airplane is and

flying from one country to another you know it's not even within it so i think it's an interesting question but i think the answer is a really lame and very philosophical oh is that your title lame and very philosophical my retroactive title is oh okay good good good researcher mark bob started this off by saying he wasn't going to presume and i just gotta say i'm about to presume oh presume daddy presume all over us i'm gonna presume all over you okay so the reason i bring this up is there was a recent kerfuffle in the big bang origin theory oh okay uh research just recently Because if you don't know at home, if you've been living under a rock, the James Webb telescope launched and it was perfect in every way. It's beautiful.

Everything about its launch. Nothing went wrong. Oh, shockingly. And it's like how many systems were in the James Webb that had to go right in a row, in a row for it to deploy all of its mirrors and calibrate it perfectly. It was something in the order of hundreds of different individual systems had to work perfectly and be exactly as designed as this goes to show that humans can when they work together at a real thing and they think about it for a very long time they can make sure that something works and the precision on the mirrors

the grinding and the polishing it's good stuff oh man the kind of like idea of like how refined these things are so anyway it made an observation recently that was kind of disturbing to a lot of people but i still haven't understood exactly the ramifications of this is some people are saying it does throw a wrench in some people saying it doesn't but what happened was the james webb telescope made a discovery of galaxies that were apparently existing between 400 and 325 million years after the universe, quote unquote, began. Right. Okay. not suggest that galaxies could even have formed at that time in that short of a time frame in the relative shortness time frame of the universe which is about 13.8 billion years ago that the big bang is theorized to have occurred and so for when that explosion occurred energy had to

dissipate you have an explosion of that magnitude you have something like the big bang the biggest bang to occur that set off the chain reaction of the universe that is an energetic event on a scale that we cannot fathom like if that is the origin not with that attitude i mean technically it would mean that it was an explosion emitting all of the energy that exists in the universe as we understand it yes which is like unbelievable you do e E equals MC squared on where M is every bit of mass in the universe. That's the energy that was released.

And maybe one to skip a few on that. Who knows? I got six. Is it six? There are at least eight planets. I just did it in my head real quick. Six mass. You don't know the unit I'm using.

It's six, but don't worry about energies six bob energies big energies but there's some like there's some people are kind of debating it because the weird way telescopes work is when they look into the distance as far back as they can they're actually technically looking back in time because they're looking at light that is only hitting us being that we're 13 billion light years away from where this initially because they're looking at light that is only hitting us being that we're 13 billion light years away from where this initially occurred they're not actually looking into the past but they're looking at events that occurred 13 billion years ago and are only just now hitting us now be that as it may you know that light could have been interfered with over such a long period

of time could have been lensed like it's could have been impacted it could have been light is a little bit mobile alien with a magnifying glass like humans would think you know what this is they're gonna think the big bang ain't real they made some fake galaxies in a space where it would reach us at the right time just to fuck with our perception sure

so where I'm gonna presume actually is like something that i've thought about a lot and i i really don't know of the actual validity of it but it's like my my thought process like the universe looks 13.8 billion years old from where we are and the funky thing about time and the way light moves is light moves very fast but in the scale of the universe not fast at all something 13.8 billion light years away from us is not the scale of the universe, not fast at all. Something 13.8 billion light years away from us is not the edge of the universe as far as I know. It also has a 13.8 billion light year bubble around it. That's just the radius of the bubble around it. So if you go

here to 13.8 billion light years away, and then there, it's not the edge of the universe. There's another 13.8 billion light years away. And then there, it's not the edge of the universe. There's another 13.8 billion light years away from it that it can see. Do we assume we're on the edge? There is no edge. That's the thing. There's no edge of the universe. There is no outer edge of the bubble. 13.9 billion light years away.

There's a sign that says, last rest stop before next universe universe work ahead we just haven't had the technology to observe it yet that would really clear a lot of things up yeah i would bring it back to drew gooden yeah and so like my presumable issue of this is that what we're seeing in these observation is not necessarily a direct correlation of what is because it's like the unreliability of knowing what that light has been through emotionally to get to us who knows how are we able to like like just take that on its big journey that it's taken in bed like give us answers like how rude is it to that light some pure light with a little lollipop and all these hopes and dreams by the time it gets to us it's like poorly

shaven it's been through a lot it's working a horrible nine to five every day its wife left it it's just like here humans this is the universe enjoy the wife light this is what you want to see isn't it you want to see my purest form don't you this is it unbridled rage uh yeah no that's a really good question though because i i know almost nothing about this but i'm going to talk about it the colloquialism that uh people often will drop is that time is relative right but what that really means is that space time can warp based on the theory of relativity uh if you were traveling near the speed of light or whatever time time actually is relative you would experience time differently than humans back on earth or not traveling at the same speed as you would experience

it does that affect light is time relative for photons traveling trans universe so i don't know how it works but like it could get something like that something there kind of like i i've watched some videos done some reading on it but i don't know for for sure but from the perspective of light because it is moving at the speed of light time is instantaneous in our context that time is from the moment a photon is emitted to the moment a photon hits something and dissipates into whatever other form it needs to be the journey with which the universe around it is occurring is instantaneous because the movement through space versus the time is inversely

correlated the faster you go the more contracted your time like the vector is and the more like slower you are the more elongated your time vector is and gravity and like it's warping a space-time has a play on this and also your speed so it's like the gravity warping and your speed affects your your time dilation inverse to each other so a light particle going at the speed of light experiences all events of the universe of throughout the duration of its existence instantaneously so it both is born and gets to its destination to it instantaneously to us and our frame of reference right because we are observing it we have a different time dilation and it is relative to us versus its own it's

its relative experience and time is different to our experience observing that light particle. Wow. We're going to take a quick pause. Everybody at home, I hope you've been paying attention. It's time for your pop quiz. All right. So I did not explain that well. And again, I don't have a perfect understanding.

I don't have a degree in light physics, theoretical physics. Yeah, I don't have a degree in anything like that. We were three idiots who are theorizing based on other people's theories. That's cool, though. See, that's the thing that makes me think that there's no chance humans are alone in the universe. And there's an unbelievably high chance that we just can't even perceive whatever other beings or creatures exist within the universe, because the likelihood that we exist on the

same plane of reference as another unrelated species from however many millions of light years away potentially seems not great but i don't know it just seems like there's such an infinite number of different types of existence that could exist for other species beings in the universe they're probably watching us like we move like snails across a long empty plane or something i have no idea but that's interesting alien life was actually our our next topic so you probably kind of segwayed us over there oh points for segway you know what bob i'm gonna give you three points ah damn i was right there but mark you had a really really good research

and you said a lot of things that were pretty much beyond my scope of understanding what you said so uh i'm gonna give you i don't know five points all right i'll take it okay okay all that makes you tied oh okay no you're tied at seven you want to skip a few in my direction i could is this a new thing you do now just you just want to skip a few all the time what is this what'd you pick this up you ever you ever just want to skip a few you know nobody not since i was in fourth grade yeah not since i've played uh uh hide and hide and boo no hide and seek i'm sorry i was thinking peekaboo and hide and seek and hide and boo is what came out interesting interesting peek and seek? Oh my god. Where are you?

I'm peeking. I'm seeking. I'm about to start seeking. Baby, I'm peeking. I'm peeking. I'm seeking. I'm seeking. I don't like that anymore.

I do. I stopped liking it immediately. Okay, well, we'll go back to the hiding, boo. Are you peeking, babe? Oh, I'm seeking. Come on, the next part. well aliens what are you saying something about aliens yeah so yeah we can it's a mixed topic right the universe and aliens are kind of a mixed topic but alien life form is fascinating too because we have all these fancy gadgets and we've we can perceive i think from what i know

we can perceive a decent amount about some other galaxies and planets and like whether or not there's signs of water, organic compounds, the right atmosphere for life to exist and thrive. But we haven't seen that evidence of life yet. And that's an interesting thing, too, because Earth's apparently a pretty fascinating thing and that it had all the right ingredients for life to start. But like, did the first origins of life come on like an asteroid that hit Earth? Was it just because Earth had the right stuff?

Why isn't it elsewhere? Why isn't we everywhere? Why isn't we everywhere? Of course. Is that the answer? The only scientific way to ask. Wade at the museum. The person is talking about how stars form or something.

Yeah, and it's a cloud and there's gravity pulls again why isn't we everywhere why are we everywhere you're smart you were smart you tell me why isn't we everywhere why ain't we everywhere i love your guys impressions of me they asked me some i'm not asking you me asking me why aren't we everywhere you think you human but you not only true fans know where that's coming from yeah yeah if you don't get that reference you're not listening hard enough only those have been watching us for 15 years all right uh where are the aliens where what wait what is the question i'm so confused anything i'll say just anything about aliens what about aliens what about aliens okay well. What about aliens? What about aliens?

Okay. Well, I sort of already said my piece on that I'm pretty sure alien life exists in some form, but I'll title this second conclusion statement, argument even. Oh, that's weird, isn't it? So I laid out how I think that it seems impossible to me that some form of alien alien to us life doesn't exist out there in some way or another but also i think it's really interesting and this applies to a lot of things right humanity's depiction of aliens it's weird how they're all so human-y how they're all not universally, but many depictions of aliens are like bipedal sort of humanoid

looking just with a big head or like weird skin. It's weird how depictions of, uh, so many like religious and mythical and other, you know, gods and all these things, they're all so human. Almost like humans just sort of imagine that. And they were like, of course, we were made in God's image. God looks just like me. Is that the Bible? We were made in God's image, I think. Does it actually state those words? I don't know if those exact words are in there, but that's definitely like a core belief of

Christianity. I was raised in a Christian house and like, we're made in God's image. Literally, we look like God looks. And like, without stating anything about the existence why would that happen yeah why would god make himself bald why would an all-knowing omniscient being who could do anything that they desire in the entire universe look like us and make us look like them and why would aliens have anything to do with how humans look why does god need hair on his knuckles nobody needs hair on their knuckles exactly no one has them right none of us have it we're normal but like you know the evolutionary

chain that led to how humans look today and being bipedal and stuff there's not even other creatures on our own planet that existed in the same conditions and went through the same aeons of evolution or i don't know if that's the right term, but the same, you know, process that really looked that much like us. Uh, yeah. We look really weird. So I just think it's, isn't that weird? The title, you know?

Now, Bob, this is not Pride Month. We don't have to be bipedal. We can just be pedal. It's okay. That was a joke. No one laughed. Okay. Was it?

Was it a joke? It was supposed to be very funny and people were supposed to laugh at it but it was dead silence okay well i'm just gonna go back to my loser corner be however you want to be minus 10 points for wade for no one laughing at his joke wow easy there buddy interesting yeah no i just think that's funny because there's no logical reason that any other form of life or omniscient beings or whatever would look like us there's a terrible form factor what would it look like to you describe what you think this being

should look like which being omniscient being god being should this being look like i mean if a being truly was omniscient or godlike and all powerful in a literal sense. Why would they have a physical form in the way that humans do? And or why would they be locked into a single physical form? If you are capable of making anything be real and anything you might want. I would just be boobs. Okay, well. Sorry, I didn't mean to say that out loud.

That's fair, but. Interesting. You said the silent part out loud. I sure did. But yeah, like, and maybe this is the thing. Maybe humans have only seen that because a being that is that powerful would want to look kind of like us to make us feel more comfortable or who knows. But like, why?

Why would you not exist in all places at all times? Why would you need a physical form? If something is that all knowing and wise and can would you need a physical form if something is that all-knowing and wise and can do whatever a physical form seems useless that seems like it would narrow their existence unless they have many physical forms in which case sure one of them could be human or some of them could be human but like this is another thing where i think fundamentally humans have trouble understanding what it would mean to be omnipotent and i don't understand what it would mean to be omnipotent but why would that be related to us at all humans are morons humans are the opposite

of omnipotent we're we're potent we are potent yeah we are yeah we are that's what deodorant's for we're monopotent all right here's my i'm gonna i'm about to presume i'm about to presume all over again my mouth is open my cheeks are wide are you ready yeah get your get your ears open get every hole you've got open for this my presumption is on the way okay so i good i have this i have this like thought that life is not nearly as rare as people assume it to be okay it is probably a quirk that humanity i have this is a totally other crackpot idea that i have uh-huh i think we've actually talked about this on the podcast before of like this universal seeding idea where once life has started it becomes

extremely hard to stop it it is just so unreasonably persistent because the requirements to get life and DNA to perpetuate itself are not that hard and not that extreme. Sex. Not just sex. Life just kind of blooms. There was this old theory back in the day,

like hundreds of years ago, it was disproven, but like for thousands of years, people thought that flies and maggots just spawned into the world out of dead matter this was a theory yeah yeah okay i forget what the name of it's called but it's like when something is rotting maggots just like materialized out of the rotting matter this was a this was really an accepted fact if you let meat out long enough maggots would just become and for my thing it's not necessarily that things don't just

appear for nothingness but when it comes down to dna and that sort of thing it is once dna was made whether it was first made on earth or not it is kind of one of those things where it's just so pervasive you cannot get rid of it spontaneous generation is that what you were talking about that i think yeah that was the not what they were talking about? I think, yeah. That was the... Not what I'm talking about right now. Spontaneously generate and meet and stuff? Yeah, yeah. That was the old term. But when it comes down to like life, I'm not 100% convinced that the DNA that we have to this day originally came from Earth.

Earth is 4.6 billion years old. The universe is much older than that. And on those timescales, any number of things could have occurred to cause solar systems to form, galaxies to form, traumatic like collisions with various things. And we know now how tough it is to scrub things of bacteria, of any kind of organic matter or trace of organic matter. Like we know how tough it is. And we know there are self-perpetuating DNA machines called viruses that aren't even technically alive that still perpetuate their genetic information. It is nearly impossible to scrub it from any kind of surface. So imagine

like if the earth was hit by a giant meteor, an enormous one, a moon-sized meteor coming, there's nothing we can do. It's going to blast earth into so many pieces. Some of those pieces are going to be sent out of the solar system. That's how hard we get hit. What are the odds that some of those pieces, even in all the cataclysmic energy of that collision, were not completely sterilized in there? And there's a tiny itty bitty fragment of DNA or one itty bitty virus that is still just floating around, just waiting for some water, delicious water. And it goes and it goes into another solar system that's just like freshly formed three

billion years into its formation because it seems the DNA arose like a billion years ago. That's what we think is one to skip a few. And then this rock goes for, you know, it's like the Cassini, like it's leaving the solar system. It goes for millions you know, it's like the Cassini, like it's leaving the solar system. It goes for millions of years. It floats. But in the cosmic timescale, millions of years of flying is not that much. And it goes into a solar system.

One of those rocks just happens to land on a habitable planet. Boom. Now that one virus or maybe it's not even the virus. It's like a little piece of its DNA. But those pieces are there. They're still there. And they crash into this ocean. And then a billion years later,

you get people like us going, wow, what the fuck is all this shit up here? Holy crap. Who's to say that didn't happen to get life here? So Earth was like a perfect paradise. Then like a rock hit a long time ago. And it was like the flu. And everyone's like, we've achieved it.

We've achieved perfection. And then like happened that's not what i'm saying that's not the conclusion i think that's what he was just laying out i don't either i just wanted to go there okay fair enough no there was no life on it but until then dna got there and it's like oh shit well here it is i've always thought humanity and life in general was more like the flood from halo or the orcs from Warhammer 40k than anything really sophisticated or elegant. So you're going with the humans are cancer or humans are a plague kind of. Yeah.

All life is. I mean, yeah, that's the broader point. Would you say, Mark, that you think life finds a way? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. Both are into points. Don't get me started on my moon theory, though.

Oh, Lord. Moon theory? I'll come later. No, no, no, no, no. We don. Both are into points. Don't get me started on my moon theory, though. Oh, Lord. Moon theory? I'll come later. No, no, no, no, no. We don't have time. God, jeez. Well, maybe next episode. A whole episode on Mark's moon theory.

It wouldn't take that long. No, no. But I just like I could talk about it for a while. No, I mean, that it's funny because it's I guess I'm only making one argument this episode. That sounds like a lot. Millions of years of things traveling and going from one solar system to another. But you're right, in the universal time scale, that's entirely plausible. And even though it sounds like it would be an insanely low probability event

for a fragment of a planet or something that has a tiny piece of DNA or virus, something suspended in it, hits the right planet that is habitable, all these things would have to line up. It's only an unlikely event, but in an infinite universe of infinite possibilities, what's that thing you said in space? Infinity is just... When thinking in infinites,

unlikely is just certainty waiting for its turn. That's the one. Self-referential. I love it. In Space with Markiplier, out now. Yes, go watch it. You should. If you haven't watched it, I don't know why you haven't watched it.

It's weird that I never promote it anymore, like, because I spent so long, like, promoting it. It's weird to think, like, once the project's done, I'm moving on to other things and, like, ah, I don't need to promote it anymore. But I forget that sometimes I should just be like, hey, go watch Space. It's pretty cool. If you enjoyed In Space, you should check out Settlers of Catan. I never promote it anymore, but... go watch space it's pretty cool if you enjoyed in space you should check out settlers of katan i never promoted anymore why don't we promote old videos why don't we bob what's your favorite on your channel what's a what's a classic my screw oh i like my edit of our speed runners gameplay oh yeah and especially the episode where i fall out of my

chair because wade kills himself in the most efficient way physically possible good it turns out you should not run left when you're supposed to run right or vice versa if only there was an enormous arrow on screen indicating which way was the correct direction. I don't think I've ever heard you laugh that hard before or since that particular moment. It's not even like it's such a funny event because there's lots of stuff that has happened that is objectively as funny as that. Something about

that moment, I just lost my shit for like the rest of that day. Well, you're welcome. Good times. We should play Speedrunners again just as fun. We should. That was a good one. That was fun. A lot of old games we should go back to we should just redo our channels from the start new channel i've been saying this so much new game plus new channel plus yes tunis honest well not that it's just all of us going video for video redoing all the same stuff we've already did what's decade in latin we'll do two is decadus two is decadus you got it you

heard it for decades dickus two is dickus two is dickus with three of us but two is dickus is the thing decennium oh who is decennium is two wait what is two unus duos duos decennius used to say it twice duo additive duo decennium decennium duos decennium duo decennium trio tricentius okay one three i guess tribus tribus tribus oh tribus tribus decennius tribus decennius decenniumus decennius. Decennium? All right. We'll workshop it. We'll workshop it. These are million dollar ideas. Will, cut all that out. Don't let the people know.

These are great ideas. Yeah, don't let them hear our ideas. We're working on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, to wind this thing down, to rein it back in, there are so many topics we could talk about. Oddly enough, on this particular article I was referenced earlier, one of the topics is why is ASMR a thing?

And that's an interesting one too i learned a thing about myself recently that i find really weird what pitch it in so i've always thought i didn't like asmr not like i didn't care for it right it didn't do anything for me okay i found a specific genre of asmr that like tingles my areas okay and it puts me in like a trance role-playing customer service phone call asmr does something to my brain it's so if you you know when you're on the phone with like a customer service and they're like uh-huh uh-huh and what's the account number okay but something about that interaction has always made me like zone out that's a type of asmr and i i found a video uh randomly i was trying to sleep it was like three in the morning and i was like fucking

god i hate this and i found a video that was like a role-playing asmr customer service call and it'll put you to sleep and i was like that's weird what is that and i played it and it like hypnotized me interesting so i do like asmr it's just one very narrow type i don't know whether i should award or detract points for this revelation but like i'm just saying i don't know what it is but it did something to me that like hypnotized me and made it made me very weirdly zone out and then fall asleep in minutes uh-huh that's fascinating i can't knock until i I try it, I guess. Well, shout out to

role-playing, what was it called? Role-playing... Role-playing customer service phone call ASMR. It really, it's important to...

Bob's fridge really just sat with you well. You enjoy those phone calls so much that now... I've delved into it. It really matters which type of phone voice effect they use.

There's kind of a right area in terms of the noise and the type of of the like levels that are, you know, the high pass sort of thing that they use. And it also matters the keyboard sounds. It needs to sound like a cheap membrane keyboard. If it sounds like a clicky mechanical keyboard, it totally breaks the immersion. Okay. Which, you know, usually call centers, they have like old. They got those Dell Inspiron came with the computer in 97 keyboards.

Which usually should be. All right. Probably. There's a membrane. Everyone knows this. We all learned something today, whether it was from our deep talks or from customer service ASMR. Don't try until you knock it or inverse that thing I said.

Bob, I'm going to give you five points. All right. Which brings you, I'm going to give you five points all right which brings you i believe to 12 good points mark i'm going to give you four points for the topics which brings you to 11 that's cool what do you mean i you said for the topics implying to me that there's another thing for which you were going to get there is market research whereas we did not so mark gets a bonus two points for actually doing some research i just knew stuff that's impressive well we assume you knew stuff i knew things about sleep i knew things about universes i'm definitely knowledge i award you another half a point oh whoa thanks i don't have to give it to you i

give it to somebody else oh avocado thanks i didn't offer you that oh half a point so what's the final score uh i think i won i don't think we should check it don't do any research wade damn all right well basic math mark has 13 points or no 14 points no this is 13 mark has one more point than you i think i don't know it's basic math you can do basic math wow don't insult the host i can't anymore because i remember what i've said you lost me on the avocado all right well thank you very much i guess i win you do you didn't say how many points i have how many points did i end up with with my extra points that you gave me oh you were at 12 and a half

which one of those is the bigger number? Mark was at 11. Mark won by half a point. It was 13 to 12 and a half. That's close, I guess. I just felt like, you know, we made Mark do all the research. That deserved a little bit of a bonus there. Oh, he enjoys it. I do enjoy that. He would have gotten three extra points, but he didn't give me a title on the

last one. Oh, shit. That's why I only won by a half point. That really cost you. Well, thank you. I feel honored about this. I did only the cursory Google searches, but somehow that was enough to get me over the edge. Damn it, if I'd known that I would have awarded less points. I proposed- no I didn't propose that. What was the word?

I presumed! I presumed all over everything and everyone. I liked that. Everything is coded in my presumption. So thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks NASCAR. Thank you.

You don't get that? No one's gonna get that. Thanks NASCAR. No one's gonna understand that reference. Oh, come on. Nope. No Korean reference whatsoever. Everyone gets it. Everyone knows it. Everyone loves it.

Alright. Bob, do you have a not winning speech? You know what? It hurts. No Kareem reference whatsoever. Everyone gets it. Everyone knows it. Everyone loves it. All right. Bob, do you have a not winning speech? You know what? It hurts, but at least you two didn't cheat and conspire against me to make me lose this one. So it could be worse. No, I did that by myself. What? You're saying I couldn't have won anyway?

I'm not saying that, but I could have said that. Are you just not saying it to avoid having to say it? Is that what you did? We'll have to have a whole episode theorizing about it because I'm not going to say now. Now the question is just out there. Was this stacked from the start? Did I already know who would win

before I even opened my mouth to say welcome back to Distractible? The answer is no. I just kind of awarded points at the end. But maybe it's a lie. Okay. All right. Thanks for joining everybody.

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