Distractible - They've Gone Too Far!

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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Good evening, gentle listeners or watchers, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, Manakee and Mark loves wood, nukes the seven seas, then lords the Luddite in the lads. Balaniferous Bob requires decor diagnosis, creeps on Kaiju and his fickle over fridges, weekly Wade offers fellatio, displays dementia, shirks small talk, rips a bong and refuses to stoop. From Ethan Schroeming to Picartum Original! It's time for They've Gone Too Far!

Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show Hello and welcome to Distractable. Thank you for joining us today It's going to be a very fun one and we're gonna reward you for your time with lots of laughs Lots and lots of laughs Baltimore make him laugh whoa not so many backflips my guy was Ethan here no well Baltimore it is Ethan didn't you know I've never seen them in the same shroom what never seen them in the same room or shroom

or shroom never seen them on shrooms that a lie, but I won't say which one. Hahahaha! Damn. I'm your host because I won by clearly arbitrary circumstances, but those are the kind of circumstances that we put into this game because they're not us making them arbitrary. It's the universe. Calling down arbitrariness

to us. I think the universe is pretty un-coouth. I almost said a word that triggers things that I had to catch myself at the beginning of it. Apparently there's been another episode recently where I said it and none of us noticed and we just kept going and everyone on the subreddit was like oh oh oh! All of these rules are under the qualification that if none of us catch it or if one chooses not to catch it and the others actually don't catch it, then it doesn't get caught. It's a real thing. That is another form of fair.

We have baked in parts of the rules to make sure that we can never be held accountable for failing to uphold them. It is built in to account for the other's stupidity. I was going to say something to that effect and now I've completely forgotten it. So I'm going to move on to small talk from these guys, Bob and Wade. All right, I need your help, everybody. Viewers can also help, listeners, you're not interesting right now.

But Mark and Wade, I'm most interested in your opinion. You see this? See this right here in my background? This is like a cheap, I think it was from, literally from like Walmart or something. It's like the cheapest cube organizer. Everybody has one of these things. It's fine. And I'm going to keep using that. I'm just going to move it somewhere else.

I want a piece of furniture to go there and I want it to be like cool. Oh, we're jumping right into the episode. Okay. Got it. I'm not cool. What goes, what goes here? Cause it's not that wide of a thing and there's this shelf up above it So it can't be like a full like bookshelf situation. You want cube storage or you want something else entirely? I want it to be it I want to be like still like a cabinets or shelves or something where it's like it's in my background, right? So I want it to like look cool, but I'm just tired of the cube. Look. I'm tired of having the boxes

I want something different. What would look cool, but I'm just tired of the cube look. I'm tired of having the boxes. I want something different. What would look cool? Help me. No, no, this is great because I've been thinking about this recently. Do you guys remember at like your either way back in childhood or your grandparents house when you had that like desk,

but it had a wooden roll up top. A roll top desk? Yes. I think back to how much storage they actually had, because not only was there space for like a computer and a screen, there was space for like CDs in the side, DVDs, wherever you want to put them. Yeah, well it had like built in cubbies and things and.

It had everything and it's beautiful, cause it's wood, right? And I'm willing to bet you can get those at a relatively affordable price. Well, especially if I go on like Marketplace or somewhere, I could get like a one that needs a little TLC maybe and get like a deal on an older roll top debt. Interesting. Yeah, right? Would I keep it mostly closed or mostly open?

Every episode you could open is another surprise. Every episode you could open is another surprise. It's- HAHHAHAHAHAHA It's like the dinosaur intro for power hour. Every episode starts with me revealing what's in the roll top desk. Oh, that's fun. We could all get them. Everybody needs a roll top desk! YESSS

Come on, Wade! You're gonna have to bolt it down though, cause it'll float away on the river of shit that is your basement. Thank youuuu. They're beautiful and they come in different varieties and different sizes that you can get all the way in antique one, or you could get, there's so many drawers. Holy shit. Look at all the drawers. Where are we looking? What? Where are we looking for this stuff? Roll top desk, but this one has, I, I shit you not to don't, don't shit me.

28 drawers and or, 28 drawers and or cabinets. 9 cubbies. Holy shit. This thing is the best. Oh yeah. Alright, I just went on Marketplace and put in Roll Top Desk. There are some very good examples already showing up. This one is 15 minutes from my house. I could go pick this up right now.

This one says for free! This one says please take it! Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it! Alright, we'll see you in a few, Bob. Yeah, I gotta go. I'll be back! Yeah, if he comes back with that before the end of the episode, he wins. Whoa! This one's cool! Oh, this one's... Alright, So they all have cubbies and stuff. This one, the, the, fuck, I'll just fucking show it

because I don't even think I can describe this. You can probably make one of these, right? You do wood stuff. Yeah, I could definitely make one of these. Look at this cubby. Look on the top right. Look how fucking cool those drawer things are. It's like a curved recess.

It's a roll top roll out desk. Yeah. Man, I love that. This one does not have as much storage as some of them do, but I love the look of the like those little built in. Hmm. You know what's cool about it. Some of them have like an upper shelf to that's a built in standing desk. You stand up, go to the top shelf. It's perfect. God, I miss those things. I was just just gonna say get a sex doll playing a saxophone, but this is a much better idea Oh, what doll a sex doll playing a saxophone? Yeah, you know the one that is like the No, which which one's that the one that the one that goes up? Listeners my mouth is open as if it were ready to receive. Yeah, how is it gonna play a saxophone with that embouchure? That's not gonna work. Yeah, that's too loose. Good saxophone with that embouchure? That's not gonna work. Yeah, that's too loose. Good episode, Bob, I like this idea.

Wait, are you the host? What's happening? No, this is my small talk. I was literally, I've been trying to find, I've been looking at like cool furniture brands and I've been like, oh, what's cool? And I swear to God, 90% of stuff I've been finding cause I'm looking for like bookshelves and display shelves.

It's all just different forms of cube storage. Whereas like, well, this one's from Pottery Barn and it's got some rectangles in it. It's got some big cubes and some small cubes. And I'm like, I don't fucking want cubes anymore. I'm over cube storage. Like this is really good storage. I'm going to go put it in the storage room full of storage. But I want something that's interesting.

The roll top desk. Very interesting. I like this one that has, it might be the one Mark was looking at. It's got like three or four different holes and what looks to be 30 drawers. It's really cool. But wait, I would like you to go get a scan or something.

Your memory is getting really concerning. I've had three of them in my life, but I guess I could get a fourth. All right, I think maybe I'm just easily impressed, I want to share this again just cuz this is another one Look at the shapes of the built-in thing. They're all Curvety and the the drawer is felt lined man. I like it. You could play pool in there You could play pool in there. You play the tiniest game of pool ever! Like, not even ironically, these are beautiful! No, this is fucking great! This is so much better to look at than...

And I have nothing against cube storage. I'm just fucking sick of it. I've had this thing in my life for like a decade and a half. There's a fundamental function in this that I didn't even real- remember! You can lock the roll top! Oh yeah, they lock! It's built Yeah, security for all my private documents. Oh Damn they had it right. Whoever invented these by assume Benjamin Franklin These things cost like two pennies back in the day. Now. I'm still sharing my screen. I almost switched back to my porn I'll give you two points right now if you tab right over to

it. Come on. I don't have porn open. Unless everyone share their desktop right now. No, this is very, very interesting. And you don't need a new one. Like there are new ones here for way too much. No, well these are and these are these are like this one's like a hundred bucks. These are listed for like like if you want a new hardwood furniture on top of being difficult to find things that are like cool and and authentic and not just some rebadged white label whatever they're fucking expensive a hard a hardwood bookshelf is like anywhere from like 600 to 1200 bucks and I'm like it's it's flat planks of wood in the

shape of a bookshelf it's very nice I'm sure but goddamn I'm not that kind of guy but I could do a hundred dollar roll top desk that I just need to like maybe sand and patch a finish on or maybe I could paint it or something because it's not that not super valuable it's just a little preserved wood lasts a long time like well maintained well preserved wood is tough Yeah, it's tough think about how long petrified what is lasted damn. It's true. He's right. You scared the wood, right? I want you to know and I'm saying it out loud so it doesn't seem crazy later is you got the segue point I got the segue point for that got the segue point. Oh, yeah. Oh man. I'm just saying that out loud.

All right, Wade, but it's your small talk turn. Oh, I don't even know if I want to try. Yeah, I don't know if I even want to try at this point. You know what? You don't have to try. All right. All right, moving on. You see, you chose.

It's fine, go on. I'm going to start off with some more small talk to fill the space since we've you know abstained But I'll give you I'll give you a point for being bold. I'll give you a half a point for being bold I'll give you half a point if you make that O and A and I'm bold All right, I'll call you boiled So in recent news the planet is saved. Oh, God, I thought that was going the other way. That's a relief. Or will be saved as soon as this researcher's plan comes to fruition.

Now, I imagine this researcher, he's got a jagged scar over his eye, a monocle on the other one, completely bald of course, pale as a ghost, high-collared like suit that's custom and futuristic and you know, he's petting some kind of animal. Any facial hair. It's either none or really extravagant. Okay. Interesting. Like Hunger Games levels of facial hair? Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. Like Hunger Games levels of facial hair? Oh yeah, oh 100% Because this researcher by the name of Adam Haverly reveals his plan to save the planet by detonating a nuclear bomb on the ocean floor Oh, well I'm sorry I didn't realize we were living in Pacific Rim

Do we need to keep the kaiju out? What the fuck is happening? Whoa whoa whoa What'd those fish ever do to Adam also if you haven't seen that movie is a pretty good movie look nothing in this really explains how this is gonna save so I'm gonna read this article okay written by Laura Martin Sanjuan in the 1960s project plowshare studied the effects of a nuclear explosion on geological material on the ocean floor. Now researcher Andy Haverly envisions taking it a step further as he looks for a way to save the planet.

The positive effect of a nuclear explosion. By pulverizing the basalt that makes up the seabed, such an explosion could accelerate carbon sequestration, which captures and stores carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to reduce climate change, through a process known to scientists as enhanced rock weathering. I was really hoping the process was going to be known to scientists as a big fucking explosion. But whatever. I mean, that's fine.

That's fine. The science, science words. as a big fucking explosion. But whatever. I mean, that's fine. That's fine. The science, science words. So project plowshare was a program in the 1957 to explore the use of nuclear explosive for peaceful construction projects. The idea was to use it for large scale earth moving such as ports, canals and highways.

So yeah, anytime, you know, in construction construction when you need a big fucking hole in the ground I Can't you they think they think they need to dig tunnels in the ground Just fuck the ground if there's no ground you don't need to dig shit Just put a nuke in there. Oh, they meant literally just like have sex with the ground. No that wouldn't fix it Okay, wait, you have sex with the ground. We're gonna try the nuke. We'll see which one No, that wouldn't fix it. Okay, Wade you have sex with the ground. We're gonna try the nuke. We'll see which one It's the planet saved. Oh, I know which one's bigger and it ain't the nuke

You should see a doctor this guy from scary movie Glad you guys got that. What a callback. Wade loves that movie. That was Wade's humor right there. Oh man, 1998 or whatever it was. Just like yesterday. All right now according to Haverly's calculations, he wants to bury a nuclear device, a classic hydrogen bomb, under the Kerguelen Plateau in the Southern Ocean at a depth of two to three miles in the basalt-rich seabed and four to five miles below the water's surface. Explosion would be contained within the water.

It's been a minute, but which ocean is the Southern Ocean? I don't remember that one. The Southern Ocean. Do you remember your cardinal directions, Wade? Yeah, name all the oceans. Points to the person that can name all the ocean. Well, Bob, you go first and I'll clean up. All the oceans.

Pacific, Atlantic, Northern, Southern, Arctic, and also Indian Ocean. Damn it. He got it, he got it. That's all the oceans, I think.

That was six of them. How many seas do we sail? Do we sail the seven seas? Is it the six? Is it actually called Southern Ocean? I thought it was called Arctic and Antarctic Ocean. Is it called the Southern Ocean? It is the Arctic Ocean,

but there's also the North Sea, which is not the Arctic Ocean, and there is no Antarctic Ocean. It's called the Southern, I don't,, I'm fucking expert. I don't know. Yeah. It's the Southern Ocean also known as the Antarctic Ocean. Oh, okay. And there's only six of them. Mediterranean.

We don't talk about that. The last one is forbidden. That's what we're the kaijus were. The forbidden ocean. So what? So we need to call Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck and tell Liv Tyler she's got to wait on the surface while they ocean gate their way down and put the nuke into the basalt ridge? That's what's going on here? Alright yeah, and here the positives are that the radiation would be trapped locally in

the basalt. Okay, no wait, sorry. The positive is there are few to no loss of life due to the immediate effects of radiation. However, there's a caveat. Okay, okay. In the long term, he acknowledges that the explosion will impact people and cause losses. Well, as long as it's not me people what the fuck do I care what about the creatures that live in the ocean they gonna have any issues this is

this is the entire article there is nothing else here that explains well so so I will say there was one key phrase in the thing that you read what was it carbon carbon D carbon what was that thing? Carbon desequestration or sequestration. Carbon sequestration. That's, so all these companies that are selling carbon capture, carbon capture environmental things where it's basically like, we'll filter the exhaust from your, whatever you're burning and that's carbon sequestration, which is a thing that that happens naturally so I'm assuming there's something about Bay salt

there where if it's dissolved into the ocean in the way that it would be with the nuclear that that would cause the ocean to dramatically increase the level of carbon it captures from the atmosphere thus doing something for greenhouse effects in a good way because of big fucking explosion. Yeah, it also probably that far down wouldn't trigger a tectonic plate movement of some kind. Probably wouldn't. Like I know we like to think we have big nukes, but I don't know if we're causing tectonic shifts with our piddly little hydrogen bombs.

You never know. You never know. It could. It could. In the right spot. You know But it also possible it saves the earth because of Equestria and Wait get that scan get that scan ten points if you get a scan any scan Carbonated equestria and Wade you can do this. I think my phone has a way to scan QR codes does that count? Uh, it'd be better than not having a scan, I suppose. It has to be a scan on you.

Hold it up to your eye. Maybe your eye has a QR code that will tell your phone. No, I think it's the other camera, bud, but... This episode is brought to you by Amazon Prime. Whatever you're into, it's on Prime. You know what I got it to recently? Pens. You just find them on Amazon. They're just out there. And pens is not a weird thing to be interested in, so don't say that. Me? It's been Prime video. Then in the last like two weeks, I was like, you know what I need to do? I need to watch every war movie ever made. I love war movies.

Whatever it is, Prime helps you get more out of whatever passions you're into or getting into. Head to Amazon.com slash Prime and follow your obsession wherever it goes. What we were talking about last week or last episode got me thinking about this. Bob, you hit the nail on the head with the segue because I think technology is overly complicated. Mm. I feel like dumber versions of technology is better. Wait, let me hear. You okay, man? What are you, ripping bong heads off the side of the frame? What's going on here? I was coughing and I got a Kleenex. I woke up today with like the chills in my throat sore And I'm worried I might be getting like strep or something so my throat's getting a little scratchy

So I just didn't want to cough into the mic But I've also got my bong over here How much I have remectin have you had today because it's probably not enough if you're feeling sick Seven grams. You gotta up your game. Seven mega grams God I wish that was the measurement. Milligrams, grams, mega grams, ultra grams, mammograms. Gigagrams? I mean, technically... Gigagrams is actually probably a real one, I think. I don't know. Megagrams would also be in that case. Oh yeah because the mega millions. Yeah milligrams, grams, kilograms, megagrams, gigagrams. There are mega grams. Pedigrams? One mega gram is a thousand

kilograms. Teragrams that would be the answer. Teragrams and then pedigrams? Then pedigrams because Penta. And then quadrupeds. I have no idea idea i could google but i'm just gonna sit here and make words up all right so here's how we're gonna do this i'm gonna present you with a piece of technology that i feel has gone too far and we are going to take terms stepping back in time until we reach the right nexus of old it worked and it does a job and also it still is good you know it still has to serve the function the fundamental thing that it's trying to do so we're gonna start with a smart fridge right smart fridge I'm talking Wi-Fi hotspot enabled

four to five and even 60 capability screen in the window like camera installed inside I feel like that's too much it doesn't it over complicates the need of you could push a button to order food and it gets delivered that miss it Anyway, I want to step back in time. I honestly do feel I generally like technology who the who's getting a benefit from We're gonna talk about it. How do you even get a benefit from a smart fridge? That's one of the ones where I'm like you don't want cameras because that's how they see the body parts You don't want people to know that those are in there. That's true. That's one of the ones where I'm like, you don't want cameras because that's how they see the body parts. And you don't want people to know that those are in there. That's true. That's a good point. So what,

so are you're going to give us the time periods to which we are jumping back or are we just sort of talking it through? No, no, you're just going to step back. It's going to be more of a discussion than any real solid rules. It's like, I'm going to give you something. We're going to take turns stepping back. I will also award points for good reasons why the technology is more beneficial than what it is Alright heads Bob goes first tails wait goes first God tails Wade goes first. Alright, you got your super smart fridge. How do we where do we step back? What do we step back? I already said it we get rid of the cameras

Who the hell needs a camera if you think I've got a bad memory But I know what's in my fridge you buy that shit. You gotta go paid $10,000 for a slice of ham you put it in there, you know, it's in there What do I need to look at it for like what's for dinner? I better go look at my ham I just bought two days ago Yep, there it is. Guess I'm doing ham. All right Admittedly, I am the guy that when I go to the kitchen because I'm hungry I will open the fridge not taking any visual information of me looking inside that fridge close the fridge again Fuck, what did I see open it again? Can see nothing close?

I have no food and then I walk away from the fridge So the camera do you ever like pull up a camera of the inside of your fridge? You're like wonder what I have to eat. I see I don't have a camera. I don't have a camera in my fridge. I honestly have no, I've never experienced this. Bob, you have fridges, right? Do you have? I've had a lot of fridges. I've never had one that was,

I think the smartest we have is the one we most recently bought. And it does have wifi for some fucking reason. I haven't set it up. Cause it doesn't have cameras or any of that bullshit. I think it has Wi-Fi so that you can get the app and it will tell you what temperature it thinks it is inside of itself. Which is important when you have fridges that don't work very well. We actually bought

remote temperature things that you put in your fridge and your freezer because we were having the issues where the whole thing where freeze wasn't getting cold and we were tracking that but no I've never honestly I wouldn't I wouldn't I've bought so many fridges and I've looked and literally we looked at the ones where it was like the camera and the see-through panel and the what-a and we were like why the fuck would you want that I don't want that Bye bye camera Do we have to go back incrementally

because I have a take on this actually. I don't jump, I don't care. Okay, assuming that we update the cooling technology to modern compressors, modern cooling, the design of fridges was correct in like the 50s, 60s era. Have you guys seen the refrigerators from that time period? I have, I have, and it blows my mind.

They're interesting, they're like art pieces. Some of them have drawers where like the whole thing swings out so you can see what's all the way in the back. Some of them have like half circle lazy Susan's where it's. Yeah, I was about to say the pulling out thing. Yeah, they all have all like this interesting mechanical shelf design. Modern fridges don't have fucking anything on these old school. Aside from probably staying cold and getting cold more effectively and efficiently.

The design of those and the aesthetic of them to the outside, it looks so cool. So beautiful. I found there's a guy on I think TikTok that I follow where his business is he buys thing, those old like fridges of that with interesting and he does it for all appliances cause it's and he like resto mods them. So we visually restores them. So they look like they're a pristine example of whatever 1956 fridge, but he puts modern cooling components and stuff into them.

So you get the convenience and reliability of modern fridge, modern compressor technology, but you get the aesthetic and the usefulness of fridge from the 1950s when people who designed them gave a shit and were trying things. It does in fact blow my mind some of the old school designs, because usually I'm not a big like retro design kind of guy. Some of the old appliance designs are fundamentally beautiful. Like, artistically beautiful. Like the hand-painted fronts the the lettering across at the color scheme the way the handles look and there are piece of shit fridges all the time like I've had many an apartment that had a fridge that was already there where it's like it's a styrofoam okay we can stop there it

feels like I could pick the whole thing up with both hands arms outstretched like this and just lift it into the air and basically all he said was the word calm down I know but I pictured it like with a coating it's got a coating on front yeah there it's inside it's hidden feel you picking it up in here anyway no yeah it's that's it that's the whole game for me I would I think if I was to add things back from those designs it would be nice to have Water dispensing system, but honestly I think the water in the door thing is a little bit of a scam There was one fridge when we were shopping for bridges

This was one where it was a smart fridge and had all the other bullshit I didn't want but what it had was a pitcher that like Mount slotted into a specific slot in the fridge on the shelf and the pitcher was always full of ice-cold water because it was when you put it in it filled it up to the the fill line and you had a full pitcher and it was in the fridge so you could like take that and set it on the table if you have if you're having dinner and you want to have water on the table or what like or all kinds it's convenient I would rather have that but is that too much Wade?

Could we go back even further the fundamental thing is just keeping your food cold. Do we really need? I don't know when this became a thing this might be around the I don't know I don't know what the inside of the old fridges looked like Am I crazy for feeling like the newer fridges hold less like you can't fit a 12 pack in Comfortably sometimes in a lot of newer fridges the underneath freezer is Probably smarter because of heat rising so it's easier to keep the bottom cold. I've always hated the bottom freezer I miss the old just like top freezer, but I feel like at least our fridge I don't know if it's just because the way it's designed is shallower

I feel like you can barely get like a 12 pack of soda in there without like the door not wanting to close because it Sticks out too long. Whereas a lot of older fridges that we had I thought you had infinite space You can fit everything in there and it was like man We have nothing in this fridge and there was so much shit now It's like we have a bag of broccoli one pint of ice cream. Oh, where we're gonna fit the ice tray That might just be your shopping, I guess. It does kind of sound like you have a counter depth refrigerator, which is a shallower depth of refrigerator.

This is a, this is a modern trend. I don't know how modern it is, but you have to be careful when you're shopping for fridges. I know because I've done it a fuckload that if you want the big capacity, you need to not get the counter depth ones because they're made to be they look cooler basically right they they don't stick out as far so they're like yeah I guess old fridges did shut out a bit didn't they yeah so like they're in lot they like blend in more with like your cabinets or whatever and they are there are actually way smaller and you

might have one of those because our fridge holds so much shit. It feels like a giant empty cavern and the biggest problem is I feel like we could use another layer of shelves sometimes because there's a lot of vertical space we don't use because things don't like shit in the fridge isn't very tall sometimes but it sounds like you might just have a crappy fridge. I've only ever bought one fridge. Every fridge has been the default one in the houses that we've bought, except for one time a month before we moved our fridge dies. We had to replace it for the next people to have a new fridge. That's the only fridge shopping I've ever done.

You know what they used to do before fridges and why they call it an ice box of box with ice, literally. So this is why freezers were on top. And you're on the right track, but it's kind of a different thought. You have a giant block of ice in the top and because heat rises, but cold falls, the cold from the ice will fall downward and it'll exchange heat. The heat will rise and go into the ice block. And that's how it kept things cool. So when freezers, the refrigeration comes out the top and falls downward from there, the coldest part will be up top and then obviously it'll go

less cold towards the bottom. And so that's why it is. Which maybe we should go back to the, just a big block of ice, you know? I miss opening the freezer up high at eye level. I don't like bending down for freezer. I don't know. That's weird but I don't like it Do you do you go into the freezer a lot more than you go into the fridge? Because I guess my thing is I use the fridge like everyday multiple times a day I'd rather have that at eye level you'd think I would too, but I just I liked opening the freezer and seeing ice cream Not bending down to look. I don't know. It makes no sense. It's just a weird me quirk. They still sell They also do sell those. Yeah, mark is right. I don't buy fridges, man I don't have the fridge my fridges you could you got the budget for a fridge

I think I have learned in life if something works don't touch it for the love of fucking God. Don't mess with it at all That's why all your plumbing works So well, there's the moment you go to get something better everything goes to hell never upgrade if something works Keep it cherish it. Well, what about downgrading? This is what we're doing. We're downgrading wait Wait didn't actually suggest anything is it my turn or is it still Wade's turn? What'd you got? I have a solution. We need to start another ice age I'm thinking deegan nuke into the part of the ocean that doesn't have basalt, but whatever the opposite of that is, that reduces carbon sequestration, releases all the carbon from

the ocean all at once, hyper global warming, hyper climate change, push right through the part where it gets so hot, everything dies, back down to the part where we're in an ice age, just like, everyone will just be like, whoa! And then it'll be a good, it'll cool off and you'll be fine. You'll just get a little sunburn or something. And then you won't need to worry about refrigerators because just chuck it out back. The hardest part will be keeping everything from freezing.

You'll need like a cooler to insulate your stuff that you don't want to freeze That'll just be kind of cold, but that's no tech at all. That's just a box You could just do that you've gotten to the heart of the issue you've solved it That's in less way that you could solve it more We don't need ice boxes if there's no us. What if we just nuke the whole planet I Mean fuck earth am I right I think I boxes if there's no us what if we just nuke the whole planet I mean fuck Earth am I right I think I feel like however I you I love it wait I love it I'm giving you a point for it but I feel like I'm gonna give it to Bob for the solution of

keeping food cold which I think is the problem we're trying to what if the food doesn't have to be cold who's hot all the time because of the nukes. What if instead of nuking the carbon out of the ocean, we nuke way more salt into the ocean? Find the part of the ocean where we dig the nuke in and it releases more salt, then you don't need anything to be cold because we'll have salt coming out of every orifice and we'll just cure everything

because shit that's cured doesn't need to be refrigerated, but it won't spoil. Cured meats, cured sod that's cured doesn't need to be refrigerated, but it won't spoil. Cured meats, cured sodas, cured ice cream, it'll all be- it'll last forever! We don't even need to do that. We just escalate humanity to the point where we don't need to live on planets anymore. It's real cold out in space. If we just float around in space, everything floating around us will be cold and frozen. It's actually counterintuitive. In some spots in in space it's very hot because you're exposed to the directly to the Sun but I get what you're saying we live in the dark side of space and we have our big old spaceys that block out the Sun we need to put

the Sun in a refrigerator because it's hot and we need to not have hot not only do we not need a refrigerator but now we've got the new version of a microwave where we have the sun in the bottom box eating up the top all i know is hot makes cold when my compressor for my fridge turns on it gets hot what's hotter than the sun put a box around the sun capture hot, do whatever magic happens in refrigerators, boom, infinite cold. You're right, you're right, I think. Alright, so we've worked backwards in time by going forward in time enough to build a

Dyson Sphere so that we can make our fridges back to the good old days. Ice cream is gonna go on the top star. Top of space. Perfect. Alright right we've solved fridges thank you uh for that. Bob I am disappointed the other one neither one of us came up with Glauber salts. Beds. I have one of those fancy schmancy beds that cools you down or heats you up in the middle of the night and you know that's pretty cool. Or hot. I realized the problem wasn't necessarily that I needed a fancy water cooling solution for my bed, which it has burst before.

It really has. That was something unpleasant to wake up to. I swear the bed burst, it wasn't me. But the thing is, I then, we were at some Airbnb or something like that, and we were sleeping on a bed that was raised off the ground It wasn't a thick mattress or anything didn't have multiple cooling layers Let me tell you I was the same temperature as the room Because the bed wasn't sitting on the floor soaking all the heat and not letting any of the air of the room

Under the bed and I realized oh This is a big insulator. This literally is capturing all of my heat if it's so much foam It's just going to absorb all the heat and if it doesn't have a way to get the heat out Through any other surface contact with anything else It's going to get warmer through the night and by simply the modern trend is to have a bed That's like kind of low to the ground and on the floor something Raised much like the roll-up desk raised things not there. Okay. Anyway, wait, I got ahead of myself I'm playing my own game here mark two points good answer. All right, what's the next one?

Like you blabbing man, I'm blabbing all over the place. Alright, minus two, blab. Beds, go! I'll start simple. I think Mark is right, and I'm not stealing your idea, but I think generally you're right. We're adding too much stuff to beds. All you need is the minimally effective number of springs oriented upwards so that when you lay on them it's springy and cushiony. I think foam is a core problem with a lot of the beds these days. I get that foam is convenient, you can vacuum seal it down to real small and you can mail it and I like a foam bed, they are comfy. The right foam is very wet but it is, it's too hot, it's too complicated, and foam is the modern technology

that I feel like led to this. You never, I'd never heard about people desperately being like, oh, I need a way to cool my bed or whatever, when it was just like old school spring mattresses, because they weren't dense insulating foam, they were springs with air in the mattress, and they were up on, you know, bed platforms that were like

a little higher off the ground, And that's all you need. Just springs, give me some springs. No foam. No foam, just springs, okay? Do you have them wrapped in anything or is it just a- Yeah, like maybe a little pillow top, but not a foam pillow top. Like some, like plush, you know?

I mean, that sounds nice too, but what if we just went back to the point where you're out in like a really cold area, right? like snowing snow on the ground ice and like you're kind of like shivering freezing and you know you need to lay down and sleep just cut open a fucking tauntaun we need to forget mattresses and all of that stuff just have a nice big animal that you raise and then cut it open get a few good nights sleep get a meal do you do you cut open a new one every night I mean if you want that warmth sure but if you're gonna eat I mean you're not to have a pretty big family for you

all that meat at once and then it's like how many beds you gonna need so it may be try to get like four or five nights out of it I would love a sub like spin-off show of Wade's survival hour of him being like you know when you're on the cold, the snow, and you start to get really sleepy, you should go to bed as soon as possible. Like when you're shivering and you're just like, I'm so tired, go to sleep immediately. I just think that you bump your noggin, you're not seeing clearly what you should do is sleep immediately. Sleeping off, you'll feel better or you won't Sleep in an animal. I'm pretty sure our ancestors did that and it probably was the best sleep of their life.

Um, there aren't that many animals large enough to crawl inside. Giraffe, horse, rhino, elephant. A bear? Depends on the bear, I guess. You'd have to- Overfed German Shepherd? Kids, maybe. I wouldn't sleep in a kid, but I guess you could Don't look so sad mark So okay, they don't go back to actual topic of beds Molly and I got one

I think it's like Stern and Foster's the brand your chance with the tauntaun. It's not your turn Yeah, wait, how many how many ideas do we get to throw out here? I thought we were talking. All right I yield my time until I unyield it Wade. Where were you going with your Stearns and Foster? I'm just thinking it through I really thought foam beds were like the best and I still really really like our bed Don't get me wrong, but we moved we got a guest bed We got like a new guest bed and I didn't want to go crazy with the mattress. So we went to just and got like a spring bed,

like you were saying, the spring bed with like a, it's like a box spring with a mattress on top, right? And it's equally comfortable. It actually, it was surprising to me. Like that mattress was so comfortable. I'm just, I just wanted to riff on your point of like, I really thought I needed foam. And then I laid on like just a new mattress on a spring box spring and I was like this is so comfortable why is

everyone getting foam why is that the thing because it is comfy but is it more comfy I don't know I don't know maybe we just had old mattresses and we're like oh man our old mattress isn't comfy it must be because they're terribly designed not because my mattress is 30 years old that's true you're only supposed to keep them for like up to a decade tops, I feel like. And you're supposed to like flip them or rotate them or something ever so often.

Yeah, some of them, but some of them would say don't flip or rotate. Some of them are non-symmetrical, right? You, if you get a non-symmetrical mattress, you don't want to flip it over because then you're slipping on the bottom of it. I don't know. I don't know the technical workings.

I just know this can happen. It's the ones with the fancy cooling technology and foam where the top is designed to, yeah. I don't know about the rotate, but the flipping, I get the design of that. I don't know why rotating would make a difference. Like if you ever lay upside down on your bed, do you just die?

Probably. I better install this correctly or else. All you belly sleepers out there just courting death They pre give the foot smell at the head of the bed if you have the mattress wrong They pre give the foot smell what yeah, cuz where your feet go so they just have it smell like feet already Is that what you know where your feet go? I don't know I'm the type of person where I'll flip down Sleep on the other side of the bed with your head in the middle of the room. It's good. That's weird.

Whoa, okay! Whoa, that's weird. Not only is that weird, that's wrong. I'm gonna write something. Write down your hurt feelings and wrongness. You know what's a good thermal regulator? You know why people before refrigerators kept food imperishables in root cellars? Because the earth is a good thermal regulator.

If it's hot outside the earth will be cooler. If it's cold outside the earth will be warmer. All we need is the earth. We should sleep on it. It's a great earth. It does many things and there are almost definitely no nukes under where we're going to be sleeping Those go in the ocean. I guess you could sleep in the ocean, but that's kind of a Stupid choice, but yeah But like I feel like it's underutilized right because you probably imagine like oh you just lay down on the ground and it's what You can earth is movable. You can shape it However, you want imagine a perfectly dug outline of your body

and it's like a little action figure like plastic mounting thing. You lay down into your perfect body shape, mold it into the earth. You don't even need a pillow. You just mold the shape of the neck and the angle you want your head to be at. You lay down and like perfect temperature regulation, perfect comfort, perfect harmony between you and a mother Earth as our ancestors would have wanted. I love it. So you want to cut open the Earth like a tauntaun. And then the great thing is you've got unlimited tauntauns to cut open. Yeah, we don't have, we don't currently have enough tauntaus to do Wade's plan, but the earth is a resource We can exploit endlessly. I love your idea. I'm giving you a full point for I'm giving Wade half a point for credit Because I think you're stealing it a little bit. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah I'll probably give you a half point back here in a second Bob with mine question for you guys

Hmm, how many people are alive on earth right now? mind. Question for you guys. How many people are alive on earth right now? More than ten. Because I know of ten people and I know there are other people alive that I don't know. Have that many people that's gotta be more than that many people have died throughout history right? Oh lots yeah. Yes actually wait. Google how many deads are on earth right now? Uh, oh, uh, approximately, well this is AI, but 110 billion maybe. Maybe-ish, maybe. Throughout all of human history. So that means Bob's idea is great, but we probably already got a lot of holes, Doug,

that are people size, where we can also have a cuddle buddy. We just go live in cemeteries! I love it! I hate it! Then you can have a cuddle buddy a nice hole already Doug I know it's half I get the it's Bob's idea. I'm now jumping on but yeah. All right I'll give you a point. I'll give half an idea to Bob or half But man, he was describing the people-sized holes and I was like we've already got those I go see my dad

Like oh look at our whole family resemblance right there look at my hole there are many like it but this one is mine so much but they always watch it the quarter crew was reacting to someone reacting to their debunking of like alien videos and one of the one of the analogies the guy was like, he was like, yeah, it's not, it's similar. It's not the same, it's similar. Just like, you know, you can't say that my butt hole is the same as yours just because they're similar.

They're different, unique butt holes. Like that was the example that he used as to what was similar and different. Like we don't have the same butt hole, they're unique. Not fingerprints, not eyes, anything like that. Just buttholes. My understanding is that's actually true. That if you got a butthole print, if every person would have a unique butthole print. Did Mark disconnect or?

I thought he was just that disgusted with you. Maybe he did disconnect again. Hello. I really thought he was just that, like, not having it with what you said. Oh, here's the text. I was gonna save it for when Mark was here. I guess we're still rolling. You've seen the thing where, like, people can have chocolate or candy made from people's butt imprints, haven't you? No. I've never done it, but I saw an advertisement at some point

where you could have a cast made of your butthole and then they would use that cast to make like a unique chocolate you could give your significant other of your butthole. I don't want to google this butthole chocolate does not sound like the thing I want to- Without casting any judgment out there to anyone else, I would- my response to that is, I don't want that. I don't want either direction. I don't want to be the one giving that to Mandy, or I don't want that from my significant other. Edible anus. One unassuming black box containing six identical gourmet milk chocolate sphincters. Hmm. Oh, I made the mistake of looking at the chocolates.

I feel like I could guess what that looks like. They're like little cutoff Pac-Man heads where the mouth is the butt hole imprint. It almost looks like the mouth of like the worms from Tremors or something. Oh boy. I'm gonna go back to looking at roll top desks. I'm just gonna cleanse the palette a little bit. I think I'm gonna have this ready looking at roll top desks. I'm just gonna cleanse the palette a little bit

I think we have this ready just to image share for mark. Oh, I can't fully share. Okay, there's a I Didn't even realize this there's an image of the cast being made. I probably shouldn't share that Hey look share what you're gonna share. Okay, I don't I don't judge What were you talking about that anything me think of anus chocolate? Something about... I was going to bring up that we have... Oh, okay. Hey man. Hey, how's it going?

What in the fuck did I walk into? Have your anus and eat it too! Bob was saying something as you disconnected. I forget what was happening as you disconnected, but I was talking about how, but your butthole print is unique that every, so it's like fingerprints. And then Wade was like, Oh, so you must be familiar with this thing where you can make a cast of your anus and have that made into chocolates to give to people that you give to your loved one. So that way did this just to be clear way did this?

Okay, but Bob inspired it Bob. Did you inspire this? I don't know if I can take credit for that. I Technically what I said came before this I think it's a stretch to say I inspired it I also am pretty sure you encouraged me to share this with Mark. Oh, now he's just telling lies. I don't even know. Alright, well, who's telling the truth and who's telling lies? I will also say, Mark, I almost shared just the image result, and there wasn't one image on the image result of a cast being made of a butthole, so I caught that thankfully before that was part of the episode.

But yeah, that's just someone's anus, and you could eat it. Which is a thing I've always thought I would want, said no one ever. All right, so we're moving on from sleep. Let's do another one real quick before we obviously keep going over in time and only doing three of a single topic ever. Cleaning, right?

I'm kind of on breleying this. This is several different ways to clean. The most egregious versions are like your washing machine is is for some reason Wi-Fi connected and has a bajillion settings, not just on and temperature or whatever. But what really gets me is the Roombas, right? Because Roombas kind of and especially the newest ones kind of represent a funneling down of a lot of things. It'll clean for you, it'll map out your house, it'll upload the schematics of your home to the NSA database, yada yada.

I feel like the Roomba is a bridge too far, but I'll take anything cleaning because we're running out of time. So I'm gonna go with what Bob said about fridges. I think like the 1950s, 60s vacuum cleaners were amazing. My grandparents had this like, I won't call it shag, but they had like a fluffier, thicker carpet than like normal most carpets are now. And their vacuum cleaner, not only did it look like it was old as hell, but it worked and it cleaned that carpet. Now you can have a vacuum that's like three or four years

old that cost like a thousand dollars and it feels like the shitty little carpet that's this long it's like oh man that one fuzz from that dog toy it's never gonna get in there whereas I don't know there could have been a whole body in my grandparents carpet I would have never known but that that vacuum sucked their eye up we do not need the new Roombas we need those 50s 60s vacuums when appliances were made to last okay all right okay all right good good start Bob too many characters in cleaning I don't need a scrub daddy I don't need a scour mama I don't need a brush baby I don't need a brush, baby. I don't need a child labor

Characters there's there's too much emotional attachment doesn't make any fucking sense. I don't need a sponge that smiles at me I just need a sponge it can be a blue can be yellow with the green scrubby on it whatever it should be a blue can be yellow with the green scrubby on it. Whatever. It should be a rectangle or Maybe if I'm feeling spicy, it should have a wavy edge, you know those sponges where they're all Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's all you need. I don't need I don't need characters in my cleaning I would like a sponge, please. We don't even need all of that like washing machine vacuum I like the idea of the 1950s appliances, but I'm thinking about it You know whenever settlements used to pop up a lot of times you try to settle around a source of water like a river You know what rivers are good for?

Cleaning you just put your clothes in the river. You put your you in the river. Then there's no shower to clean There's no sinks to clean You just have your washbasin you go rinse out in the river your clothes rinse out in the river your house Hell those things were built on rollie logs You could probably take the logs and rinse them in the river and put them right back together like a big ol Lincoln log set River we got the cleaning thing river river. That's all you need to clean. I agree. It's also your toilet. Yeah, that's true Yeah shit just a little further downstream than you clean But that see Wade's idea is built on top of the idea of that

You have to be settled next to a river or a lake or something You have to find that people live everywhere now We have a lot of people they need the ability to live in the middle of nowhere and still have be able to clean You know what cleans even more powerfully than water does? Fire. All you need to get the stain out, to get the smell to go away. All you need to get to clean whatever it is, is a book of matches and the will to do what's necessary.

If you really need something to be clean, fire will clean it. Cleanse it even. You're right, I've heard that before. And fire can be anywhere. You can carry it with you. I have opinions about them but they do sell lighters that make fire out of nothing, out of thin air practically, and lighter fluid. And you could literally just rub sticks together. Boom. Cleansing fire. Right there. All you need. All right, Wade. It doesn't get much more clean than that, but it does it. I think it sure does because I think a little prayer goes a long way. And before that bitch

ate that apple, God might have cleaned us himself. We didn't have to have clothes. We didn't have to have anything. We just lived in paradise. Everything was going so great. Then one little snake comes down and all everything goes to shit. But you know what we never hear about the Garden of Eden? Dirt. Never once. Do I hear dirty or unclean mentioned? It is just perfectly good. So maybe if people would behave themselves a little fucking bit the man upstairs might cleanse us himself Then we don't got to worry about rivers or water or any of that shit. We'll just go Bruce Almighty style and be clean That's fair. That's a great point

I'm not sure how to find it, but we'll get there wait wait Official downgrade suggested is to go back in time and stop the original sin? The technology of the original sin has gone too far. I didn't give up a rib to do laundry. He's onto something cause wasn't it the tree of knowledge or the tree of knowledge that that fruit came from and knowledge is what technology is from therefore get rid of all tech get rid of the knowledge we could be air headed in the Garden of Eden forever I can do you one better I've already established that fire is the cleansiest cleanse you can have. What could offer more energy in the form of heat and fire

than the Big Bang itself? If we simply re-compacted the universe into the singularity from whence it came and just stayed right there, no banging, just singling, singularitizing. If we just stay right in there, nothing can get dirty. Everything is clean. Everything is also sort of technically dirty, but also there is no dirt, because all the energy and heat in the universe is all just it's right in there. It's the purest form of clean we could be. You're absolutely right, 100%. I solved it.

Okay, all right, we'll call it there. There is no, much like most of these solutions, there is no problem if there's no nothing. All right, good, that's smart thinking. No problem if there is no. So the fridge problem, the keeping food cold was Dyson Sphere the Sun with no wifi in the Dyson Sphere. Yep, no wifi.

It would be completely cold. The sleeping one cut open the earth. The cleaning one was just never have a universe to begin with. It'll never get dirty. All right, so we're going to start with Bob on calculating the points here. This is a complex episode. I docked a point right off the bat, Bob, I guess say. You were shitting on the listeners.

And I think we've been a little too tough on them. This point is conditional. If a viewer... If the wheel says viewer point, I'm going to give this back because the universe is saying that the listeners don't deserve that kind of treatment. And it will because we know this will happen. So if a viewer gets a point this gets reversed You got the segue point with the cabinet

Keep the kaiju out ocean master 1950s fridge ice age solution nuke boo foam for beds Cut open the earth half point for credit from Wade. No brush babies, fire cleanses all and then no banging, just singling. Alright, Wade, you were un-cooth. Sex doll saxophone, you got half a point for bow-owld. Equestrian?

Carbon sequestration. Oh, I was like, I don't remember why I have my wire hoist in this. Equestrian? Carbon sequestration Oh, I was like, I don't remember why our voice is in this, okay Big capacity. Falk Earth, sleep in an animal Half a point for credit from Bob Live in cemeteries, 1950s vacuums were better, river cleans everything, go back to the Garden of Eden. That's complex. Uh, let's just go ahead and spin the wheels to get to where we are, I'll get you one to put on there.

Yes, yes, yes. Firstly, how many bonus points shall there be? Two! Interesting. Interesting, interesting. Alright, and what are you adding to the wheel sir? I want to add Most misheard

Misheard the most so usually this would be a waypoint. It's almost exclusively a waypoint I am going to shuffle this again if for for fairness Mm-hmm, it is shuffled. I did one shuffle and then we get two spins. Two spins ready. Yep Come on universe Yeah, oh most self sabotage Did any of us lose points for anything today? I did lose a point at the beginning for talking a lot of shit about listeners Hmm, that would be sabotage. That's closest we got. It's the only lost point lost point it makes sense I can't argue that spin number two oh oh it was one away from point for viewers did either of you eat at all no it's probably were you drinking anything wait because I drank I did I've been sipping my sprite I drank approximately eight ounces of liquid I've not yeah we've probably both just

been drinking there's been no eating I have not'm not you know we've probably both just been drink. There's been no eating I have not eaten anything and I'm pick their nose eat the booger Spin again come on viewer points Scottish accent time. Oh fuck my guys Scottish accent time who's got it who's got it? Well, I think it's time for us to spin the wheel one of us is coming out ahead That's gonna be tough Bob. I didn't think I either of us had a Scottish accent. Um, oh I Really need this point. Um, oh, I really need this point

I really need this point, please give me the point Incredible, I'm gonna eat get over the way there. I'm gonna give it way just the Scottish point from Moscow. Oh Me bangers in mash! Shhh! Ugh! Ugh! You know, mine's no better, but it's not better in a different direction. So I think that, uh, I think we can give this to Wade here. Alright! And that concludes one of the tightest games I've ever judged in my life. Scottish was a little unfair, was it?

What's it about? I don't know, I just said it. I said, oh man, the Scottish felt a little unfair. Scottish is unfair, all right, so that's what it is. Oh God, Wade. I'm sorry, I just said it, I wasn't thinking. So if it's all heads, I get the Scottish accent point. If it's all tails,

Wade gets another Scottish accent point. That's the deal? Sure. Yep. Absolutely. Fuck. Wait, no, he gets what he wanted. If he said it was unfair, if it comes all heads, we have to reverse it to oppose the unfairness.

If it goes all the other ways, then it becomes... No, no, you're right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Everybody ready? I mean, it's probably not gonna happen, so it's probably gonna- Boom! Fails.

Okay, you're lucky. You're lucky, Wade, you're lucky. I don't know if that would have helped me or screwed me in the end, I really don't. You know why you're lucky? Cause you were in the lead. By the time you almost undid your own lead. You're so lucky, that's two of three. You're so lucky. All right, anyway. With ten and a half points before the wheels, Bob, you had ten and a half, plus one puts you at eleven and a half. Wade, you had

eleven points before the wheel with your Scottish accent that you almost snatched from your own jaws of victory of defeat. Wade, congratulations! You have broken your losing streak with 12 points! It's been 84 years. Not really, but it feels like it's been a while since I've won or hosted one. Maybe just because we haven't seen each other in a minute or maybe it's because I've really sucked this year.

But man, going from being the grand champion of Distractable for the first 10 years, I've had a really rough 11th year so far. But I'm glad it's turning around. Is that your speech? I guess that was your speech. All right, so good speech. I just want to clarify that I think technically distractible has been a thing for Four years, I think four just over four or is it five? No, it's four four in its distractible incarnation So, uh, I don't know what timeframe Wade was talking about but that's about as coherent as the rest of everything

He said today. I understand that sometimes you have to throw a dog a bone Keep them, you know keep them in line but I feel like I shown pretty brightly in today's episode and I really felt like I deserve to eek it out and coins almost had my back on the stupid Scottish accent. Stupid point. But it was literally one away from point for listeners or viewers. It was on one of those pins. That would have been one less for me and one more for you, which might have been the difference.

But it wasn't, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on who you're rooting for at home. Uh, sorry. Oh no, not sorry listeners. I got your back this time. So that stuck Very momentous and we've changed people's lives forever getting that ground Dyson sphere the Sun and blow everything un blow everything back to the big bang. Thank you for listening to distractable There are rumblings of merch Rumblings like the nuke in the base hold on the floor of the ocean?

Ooh, wah-ah-ah-ah. I don't know why I did that. Yeah, do... If you want more of what Wade has to offer, he's over at Minion777, I don't know, LordMinion777, Bob's over at MyScream, I'm Markiplier. This has been Distractable. Tune in, we got more fun stuff coming at you real soon. Or more fun stuff in the past that you can go listen to. There are some pretty good episodes around. Going backwards is for idiots, that's what the past that you can go listen to there are some pretty good episodes around Going backwards is for idiots. That's what I learned. You know listen to a loser like him or a winner like Wade What's your opinion Wade? Gotta stop the original sin. We gotta go back podcast out