Distractible - Wade's Food Questions

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

In quintessential Distractible fashion, Wade asks Mark and Bob questions which their "distractible" nature makes quite difficult to answer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/...adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:55 about Vegas vices. From tech issues and Japanese super gums to healthy heroin. Ha ha, yes. It's time for Wade's Food Questions. Now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Distractible.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I am 70% sure I'm this week's host. No shot. Because I won last episode. The way it works here is if you win the last episode, which I did, you host the next one. Yes. Despite mine and Bob's disbelieving of what happened. Yes. I'm joined by Mark and Bob, my co-hosts.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Hey, boys. Hello. Hi. Hey. Hi. How are you? Great. Hey, boys. Hello. Hi. Hey. Hi. How are you? Great. I'm in disbelief.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's how I am. Very good. I'm doing wonderfully. I don't have a good feeling about that tone of voice. How are you? Oh, that's a very host behavior that he's exhibiting right there. No, no, I'm the host. This is not like a puppet situation.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I am the host. Yes, you are. You are the host. This is not like a puppet situation. I am the host. Yes, you are. You are the host. 100%. I feel like Quill and Thor at the end of, was it Endgame? Where he's like, I'm the captain. Of course, of course. Of course, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But I am the host. This is mine. Yes. Yes. I think this is going to go really well for you, Wyd. Mark has no idea what my topic is. Bob doesn't. This is mine. I did this. going to go really well for you, Wyd. Mark has no idea what my topic is. Bob doesn't. This is mine.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I did this. Why would I? You don't have any backdoor exploitations to take advantage of in your computer to remote desktop in. That's not a regular occurrence. I mean, I do use a remote desktop, but that's for Dana. Oh, yes, Dana. So what's new in your lives? Oh, yes, Dana. So what's new in your lives? Oh, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Keep the squeak on us. If you were going to keep that up the whole episode, I was just going to give you the win. I was really hoping a whole episode, just that bit. Wade and I are having discussions and Mark is just like, Mm-hmm, yeah. I do like Mac. I do, I do, unironically, I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Unironically, I do. I think everyone got that. I had to edit a video today back on my PC again. And I know what the problem is because I know now that so many problems with Windows come down to lack of unification in what your interfaces are and a lot of these different things. I have an external hard drive that's been dying for a very long time that i have uh programs like photoshop i i have photoshop files that i open on that drive because i'm like that's where i was just storing them before before i got all these network backups if you have that open on your computer it can slow
Starting point is 00:04:37 down your entire system because it's trying to read from a drive that's dying this drive is dying and so it's not able to move as fastly uh fastly as quickly and so it's like it's coming down so it's like it's not the pc is bad it's that pc can fall apart very easily because mac being like an internal like very closed off ecosystem it can fall apart no problem people can like it can explode no problem but with windows it actually is very very trivial to get into a situation where you do not know what is slowing down your computer. But if I pull up activity monitor on Windows, I'll look at that drive and it has a 42 millisecond response time. It is just agonizingly slow, which for a hard drive, that is a very slow response time. That is extremely slow. And it's got a right. It's an SSD. It's reading at a max of
Starting point is 00:05:22 like 30 megs a second. That's how much it's dying. You should probably switch off of that drive. Yeah, no, I have a solution proposed for you. Yes, absolutely. Which is like, I don't know why I've been running it for so long, but I need to copy all the files off of it and it'll copy it 30 megs a second. And if I do that while I'm doing this. You just like run that overnight or.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah, if I, but if I, I only realized just now. So if I do it overnight, I'll. Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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Starting point is 00:06:00 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, like mac i think it's cool you know what i like honestly i thought i was gonna come up with something i got nothing right now stuff stuff is not working man i my computers that i i foam filled them with foam and packed them very carefully and transported them very carefully i think i might have cracked some traces on like maybe on my graphics card i don't know man but like my computers are all over the place i keep i keep trying to do like stream or
Starting point is 00:06:25 do you know content stuff on them i'll do it one day it'll work perfectly fine like oh okay i got it all sorted out the next day i turn it on my sound is all totally fucked and not in the usual windows way in the like it thinks it's putting sound out and it's not from any output type of way where it's like oh something's broken isn't it oh no i i can't tell if it's broken or if it just i just had it unplugged for too long and all the series of updates it did just made it have a total fit i don't know man man i wish i had max i guess this is the point of what i'm saying i don't know probably not probably not if you're oh god. Mark spilled a liquid. Oh, no, no, no. What in the fuck?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Can you still hear me? Yeah, you're right. Did you just almost kill your RODECaster in the same way that you killed your GoXLR the one time? I was trying to unplug that hard drive, and I missed... I looked at the cables wrong. I unplugged my RODE. But the RODE has two plugs, two USBs, so I unplugged the secondary USB to that, so we're fine. We're fine.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Maybe don't unplug that sort of stuff in the middle of this. Well, I was thinking the hard drive, because I realized, like, the transfer I was doing earlier was done, and I'm like, yeah, I should just unplug that, because that's probably, like, causing issues, but I'm good. Everything's good. Everything's so good. Anyway, my computer might be broken. Who knows? The thing that happens with a lot of technology is like when the, when cars were first invented, driving a car was like a whole thing. You had to be kind of an engineer. You had to crank starting. It was dangerous. You could break your arm, all this stuff. And now you just get in a car, you push a button, it drives like
Starting point is 00:07:59 it's that easy. How are computers not quite to that point yet? And maybe it's because we're doing stuff that's more advanced. Maybe they are for people who do normal stuff on them but like it feels like computers are still in the model t era where it's like if you change one thing everything else is like oh i'm gonna explode whoa nothing's built to last everything's built to have replacement parts and for you to buy new shit i don't even think that's it like i'm not saying don't age out because i because that is half that's it like i'm not saying don't age out because i because that is half that does happen but i'm saying like i have new stuff i have all new things none of my neither of my computers is more than a year old and it feels like they're
Starting point is 00:08:34 already teetering on the edge of if i change another thing all of it's gonna stop working all at once in a way i can't fix here i'll actually explain it to you because this is a fascinating conundrum and game development actually is like an equivalent uh process to it it's like game development on pc is a microcosm example of what this is you have to make sure your game works for pc right that should be easy right everyone's on pc it's windows okay there's a few different versions of windows windows 11 windows 10 windows youista. People are still on. 7. Windows 95. Yeah. And so you got to pick, okay, I'll only support Windows, let's say 7 and above. 7's old by now, but some people still rely on it every day.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And that's fine. Whatever. Okay. Among those, who has updated to what driver? Who has updated to what driver who has what directx package? Okay, I'll package my My game with directx, but which windows windows are they on? How am I gonna know? Okay, so I got a package it with every version of directx for every operating system So it automatically installs for their computer. Okay, cool. What audio system they're doing? Well, the chipset is dependent on a motherboard How do I even know what motherboard they're on because there are many different motherboards? Okay, I gotta make it for this audio driver this until audio driver this like ASRock whatever media stupid thing All right good at least they have a good graphics card, right? Do they have a good graphics card? There's AMD. There's Nvidia There's all kinds of different graphics cards that they could possibly have with all with different hardware cup All kinds of different graphics cards that they could possibly have with all with different hardware capabilities.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Some with completely different architectures from generation to generation. Some don't even have shader models that the other one says. That's okay. Thank goodness. Well, DirectX is there to unify it. Well, I'll create adjustable for my game to have adjustable graphics. That's just gaming. Every other software out there has to deal with this exact same problem. And it's not just like PC or Mac. Let's say Mac is like a closed-loop system and it's trying to do
Starting point is 00:10:27 that but with Windows and even like some people are like I don't like Windows I want Linux why doesn't everything work on Linux? It's hard enough to work it on Windows and that's why ports to PC for certain games can be bad like because it all is packaged up with all of these different contingencies sometimes you have to create an entire different build of the game just for a different operating system level on Windows alone. It's a lot of stuff and it's a lot of different things. And so PCs with people's ability to like repair them in the East to open them up
Starting point is 00:10:55 creates like a certain barrier to entry for complexity for you to have the utilitarian nature of computers as they are today. It would be so much more efficient to build them if everyone built them like Apple does, but then people wouldn't be able to actually go in and repair. The one thing about Mac that I do not disagree with is they are impossible to repair.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Trying to open a MacBook and doing it is not only voids your warranty, you are more liable to break your entire system than actually repair your thing. You need to rent tools. The tools that you can rent from Apple are like 76 pounds. They come in two cases and that's just for the phone. But you can rent it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You can because they were legally required to allow for rental. But the complexities of even opening it up without breaking it, they had to send. No, but see, but see, I know enough to know basically the gist of what you just explained. But I want to be I want to be in the walled garden. gist of what you just explained but i want to be i i want to be in the walled garden i wish that they would tell me configurations of stuff that they specifically use where it's like we know it works with this motherboard or this series of motherboards this is my livelihood i spent a lot of money on these computers i would spend a good amount of money to get the basically the experience you get on mac but in the form of a pc where i have access to the software that i need to use to do what i need to do yes i would if they
Starting point is 00:12:09 just put a list out that was like if you have these components generally you'll get top performance out of our piece of whatever software or our game i would do that i would be so into that and i get like what you're saying it's very hard and not but like a adobe you're saying adobe couldn't have some like a list of you know adobe approved components and things adobe can't even keep their software working from version to version i know what i'm just saying they're a huge company and they charge people money without them even knowing it they they have all the money in the world to make it work right and i get that they struggle to make it work at all but i just would be. It would just be nice to spend a bunch of money on a computer and not feel like it was already kind of broken within the six months of getting it out of the box.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, I completely agree with you. It would be nice. And a lot of it comes down to just not upgrading to the most recent version and a lot of different things. It's like picking a version of it. Like, let's say if you're going for da vinci or premiere even you pick like version from five years ago that was super stable and they didn't have any experimental features with like like ai analysis of yada yada it just works and you pick that one you can do that and you can make sure that your computer definitely works for that one but you have to do that for like you have to handpick all of your software to make sure that and basically you have to disconnect yourself from the internet in between each one just in case anything auto updates to something even windows you got to prevent from updating and it's just like oh dude auto updates don't even get me
Starting point is 00:13:33 started on auto updates holy cow doesn't windows even bypass you telling it not to auto update sometimes it's just like yeah you're getting this anyway it reaches a point where for security reasons it forces you to update, yes. And nowadays, and I was talking about this a little bit in terms of chip design, but what I've realized is like there are certain, because chips are designed the way, there are exploits to the chips themselves
Starting point is 00:13:55 that are being taken advantage of that if you get a certain virus on your computer, it's less about it breaks your computer and more about that it spies on it without you ever even knowing it. And they're almost undetectable because they're on such a firmware level that you have to get an update from intel about the the software packages that are literally firmware onto your die the chip die itself that doesn't sound very good it'll reduce your performance like 50 up to 50 of your
Starting point is 00:14:21 chip but they have to do it because all these things are vulnerable. And if, if that's, that's more for like server infrastructure, stuff like that, that's what gets exploited a lot less than individual computers, because unless you're specifically targeted, it's not going to happen to you. But yeah, that, that is just like a thing. It's, it's, it's there because people don't really know the full ramifications of using these like computer assisted designs and chips. They don't really know the full ramifications of using these like computer assisted designs and chips they don't really know how it is but if someone has enough reason to look into it they might look into these vulnerabilities of a certain hardware that they know a lot of
Starting point is 00:14:54 servers use and then all right maybe if i can crack this i'll be able to get bank codes i'll be able to get into like bank accounts that should never be gotten into by me you heard it here first mark is learning to hack your chips everybody go get some intel chip clips and secure those baggies so mark can't get his grubby little hands in there you got it you got it well i'm glad to hear you guys are doing so well tech update that i'm sure all the listeners are super into go to the subreddit right now if you're listening you don't care if you're driving a car what just take your hands off the wheel maybe don't do that safely stop your vehicle somewhere legal and safe uh but how many of
Starting point is 00:15:36 you hear these tech things and are just like uh what somebody make the official poll i could i'm a moderator on the subreddit so i can could do that, but I'm not going to. Somebody who knows how to do things should do that. I don't have a Reddit account, so I can't. I just don't believe that. Never made one. I don't believe you. In all honesty, there's not really a strong point unless you do post.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You could just browse without an account. As a person in our position professionally, there's not a huge thing to having an account. As a person who uses Reddit for myself, I do lot of like research on car stuff tech stuff it's great to be able to go back and look at stuff i have bookmarked comments i've made responses to my comments it's fantastic that's why you have an account because that's how you find you're like oh shit i looked this up two weeks ago god damn it but like the post. And then you can go find it because it's in your stuff. That's why you want an account. That's the use.
Starting point is 00:16:28 None of it exists for me. Well, you're missing out, bud. I guess I'm going to, as the host. Yes, for now. I've got some topics for us to discuss today. Yeah, I know. See, that's the thing. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't either because he shouldn't. I was only just talking about chip exploits and looking into data that I couldn't access. Well, then, Bob, you might be at an unfair disadvantage here. But I will do nothing about it. And we're going to jump in. Really? We're just going to talk. We're just going to talk, hang out.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Rhinoceros. Plant-based meals. What's the secret? What are the code words, Wade? Nice segue, Bob. Because the first topic we're going to discuss is one unhealthy food you wish you could make good for you or healthy to eat. Man. You can only pick one.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And you can't do a general thing like all greasy foods. I swore you were about to bring up the news sensation that is currently rocking the gaming world. I don't know those things. You know our history is like a gaming podcast. That was the whole thing. Yeah, but what's the, why would I know breaking news if we haven't discussed it? What's the thing?
Starting point is 00:17:32 What are you talking about, Mark? PlayStation Vita. It's back, baby. Oh, really? That was my favorite. No, not, not really. Oh. Oh, well, it's the PlayStation Portal.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Okay. Okay. Hold on. It's, it's, it's there. PlayStation Portal. Handheld remote play for your PlayStation Portal. Okay, okay, hold on. It's there. PlayStation Portal. Handheld remote play for your PlayStation 5. They came out with something that literally looks like they chainsawed a PlayStation controller in half and stuck a Switch screen in the middle of it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'm not joking. Let me share it with you guys. It's just the width of a DualShock and then a screen and that's it? Yes, absolutely. That actually is what it is. So look at this thing. The PlayStation Portal. The touchpad on the PS5 controller got sick.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It got really big. It took some pills and it just got real girthy there. Instead of just holding a controller like this, you hold it like this. Yeah. But this, I believe, is an advent of the popularity of the Steam Deck instead of just holding a controller like this you hold it like this yeah but this i believe is an advent of like the you know the popularity of the steam deck and like obviously the switch you know so before you explain it let me guess this is a playstation portal you said play handheld for playstation 5 this works if you're on the same wi-fi as your playstation 5 you could basically
Starting point is 00:18:42 remote play your playstation on this I bet there will be a subscription service where you could remote play your PS5 over the internet and it will be as successful as Google Play. Sure. I didn't read the thing. I just saw it. Oh, that's just my guess. I know nothing about it and that's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So I just wanted to bring that up as a gaming update because that's kind of cool and like upcoming stuff in the Wi-Fi world is getting better and you know it's like that's pretty cool yeah dude if you have if you have a home router with uh wi-fi 6 impressive stuff actually kind of cool kind of cool that is a great answer to my question this is launching at 200 that's a little expensive it depends on the screen because i think if you're trying to if you could technically do this yourself if you were to get like a portable little mini laptops or tablet style thing with a screen and a controller you could technically do this already maybe not with the playstation 5 but with your computer you
Starting point is 00:19:34 could i mean i could see that interesting interesting what was your question wait sorry i forgot who was host yeah yeah as the host one unhealthy food you wish you could make good for you, make healthy. Is this like one ingredient or like one dish? Like a dish. Like ice cream. I could make ice cream good for me. Or like mint chocolate chip ice cream could be healthy or something. You know, something like that.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Done. Easy peasy. Done. Great. Bob, you were done first. What you got? Done. Great.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Bob, you were done first. What you got? So I would argue that depending on how they're made and what you put on them, these are already not that unhealthy. But generally, chicken wings, and I'm not talking like breaded wings. I'm talking like normally fried or oven roasted or smoked chicken wings are not healthy. Usually they come with a pretty buttery, fatty sauce or like a barbecue that's like really sugary or whatever. If you could make chicken wings that tasted like,
Starting point is 00:20:31 I don't know, like Asian zing from Buffalo Wild Wings. It's like- Oh, this is magic. You name it. You say chicken wings with your barbecue sauce. You want to make it healthy? Bam. If I could make all flavors from like Buffalo Wild Wings
Starting point is 00:20:43 or from a specific restaurant tastes good or healthy i would but it has to be one flavor asian zing buffalo wild wings sauce on traditional chicken wings if that could be like as healthy as just eating raw spinach i would be the healthiest fucker in this place i would be so i would grow a third arm and it would be so muscular what happens when you're healthy clearly clearly i don muscular. What happens when you're healthy? Clearly, clearly, I don't know what happens when you're healthy. I don't live that life. Mark, how's your third arm?
Starting point is 00:21:11 You look healthy. Oh, I'm so healthy. Okay, this is just like, so I have a few questions. What defines something as unhealthy, right? Because there's a lot of different foods out there. And it's really like less of a thing where certain foods are extremely unhealthy. Oh, okay. Every nutritionist on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Well, all right. That's not what I'm saying because I'm not trying to be- If you only eat one third of a Skyline cheese coney, it's not that unhealthy. Yeah, I eat five of them. It's something that you should probably not eat every day because it's not good for you overall. What I'm saying is like in this category there are certain foods that lack the full spectrum of nutrition does that count as unhealthy because it doesn't have everything that you need like let's say you know if you eat only something that
Starting point is 00:21:55 has intentionally unhealthy parts to it you're saying you have a lame idea and you're trying to horn it in here because it's not that unhealthy clarity on like because it is a thing where if you eat only let's say rabbit meat without eating any of the organs you will die because you you will have a you will lack nutrition it's a broad topic so it's open to interpretation okay all right so you're talking more like the deep fried corn dogs with funnel cake for their corn dog wrappings and whenever i was coming up with the idea, yes, but you can argue something else. Funnel cake, half cheese, corn dog coated in crispy potatoes, Korean street dog style.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, all that. If you only want to eat strawberries for the rest of your life and get all the nutrition that you can get out of them, you could make that argument. I will allow you to make whatever argument you want.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's one unhealthy food you wish you could make good for you, or I could see it being a food that's good for you, but doesn't give you enough nutritional benefit to be good by itself. You could make it fully good for a multivitamin food. All right. Then I do have one if it's my turn to go. There is a certain, you guys know, you've probably seen it or experienced it where every
Starting point is 00:23:00 once in a while I will suddenly just be like i feel extremely lightheaded i have to lay down you guys have seen that right yeah okay so not many people know about this but it's it's it's called hypoglycemia it's extremely low blood sugar um and it oh i mean bob you i know about this yeah i know a little bit so i don't have diabetes i get bouts of this though, occasionally, and I traced it down to a very specific thing and it's dextrose. So if I eat a dextrose based candy, which is usually in candy, it's from like corn and they like, like they process it into a type of sugar called dextrose. And if I eat something with dextrose in it without eating anything else that causes an extreme insulin response and it plummets my blood sugar because my body is just like what the fuck did you just eat now the problem
Starting point is 00:23:54 is i love candy like this because it's usually in like sweet tarts it's usually in smarties american smarties that are like the chalky kind of things. It's a chalky sugar candy kind of thing. I love this shit, but I know, I know that I can't eat it. What it's doing to me is actually like if I kept that up and did that like every day, that could lead to me having diabetes because it would mess with my body's ability. It would mess with my insulin response and it causes me to almost pass out. If I like occasionally if I was driving like i could get in an accident because i literally get so lightheaded for like 30 minutes i have to lay down and then i get like incredibly hungry you go from smarties to being a
Starting point is 00:24:33 dumb dumb ah good joke host thank you i appreciate you laughing even though you probably wouldn't have normally that was a sincere laugh yeah I almost unleashed my true laugh there. Kudos to Dextrose. I was trying to do that last night. I don't know why it came up, but it's just like, God, I really wish I could. All right. So this, what is it? Dextrose?
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's like Dextrose. I would make that somehow. Same taste. Exactly the same. Used exactly the same, but it like provided all the proteins I needed, all the nutrition I could eat, everything of it. Because I love that. It's like the one thing. And it probably comes from my childhood of like going to Ameristop, you know, my dad giving me five, me and my brother five bucks and going to
Starting point is 00:25:13 Ameristop. And we would just get like the giant Smarties. We'd get the huge pixie sticks, you know, I basically grew up eating dextrose. Right. And that's probably what led to me developing, who knows adhd any number of my problems that i suffer from today probably stem from the amount of candy that i imbibed as a child but damn it's good damn it's good it makes me feel happier like i feel like good when i'm eating and i feel bad afterwards feel horrible afterwards actually if i think about it but man oh some of those candies oh man that's a good one i like both your answers uh no points interesting okay as as as deserved
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Starting point is 00:27:26 Mark, you get to go first this time. Oh, wait, we're not answering that question again? I have more. We can keep talking about it if you want. I just had a list of different topics. I'm just giving you one food you wish you could make good for you. But if you have another one, go ahead and say it. Well, it's also food.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Does it have to be a food? I did say food. You can discuss whatever you would like, but that was the topic. Okay, so because I can't drink alcohol, that would be like super unhealthy for me. It's something you ingest. Okay, okay. So I'm happy that I can drink, and I've kind of found an alternative, right? So I have a non-alcoholic beer that I like, and so it seems probably strange when we're recording this, like I'm slugging down a can of beer but because the only choice for like
Starting point is 00:28:05 carbonated beverages is is like you know diet sodas or sodas or something like that or sparkling water or something like that and i'm like man there's something is nice maybe just because i'm an adult or whatever but i do like the taste of this is like a light uh non-alcoholic beer and i'm like but man i sometimes just wish because i don't have any vices i don't have any like things um to outlet. And I'm not saying everyone needs a vice, but I do think everyone needs a vice in some way. And I got none. You're not that far from Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Get you some hookers and blow. I don't think that's so much as a vice. That's a lifestyle, bro. Yeah, man. If you want to talk like what if what if cocaine was like super healthy for you? What if? Oh, damn. But you still got high off of it in the same way it was just also healthy?
Starting point is 00:28:50 The world would be, like, overclocked. Everyone would just... It would be like that limitless pill, but with none of the bad stuff. Yeah, exactly. That's what cocaine does, right? That'd probably be great. I'm sure nothing bad would happen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Sure. Honestly, actually, Neil, the more I think about it, though, the more I'm like, I do have these kind of non-alcoholic beers now. So I'm kind of like, I don't really miss anything about it. I think I just miss like the idea of having any kind of a vice or like there's very few things besides hard drugs that you can take that are like stress relievers or something like that. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Like smoking for people is kind of like that idea of like you smoke because it's stressful i'm not encouraging smoking at all no you should get into socially acceptable smoking that's what's cool man socially acceptable cigarettes are super passe in america right that's and they're not cool anymore uh cigars still allowed totally different i think the vibe of a cigar is different though the guy that comes in smelling like cigar smoke is disgusting but like a celebration like oh i'm gonna be a dad or i'm gonna be a godparent or our team won the super bowl a celebratory cigar i think has like a reputation of like that's fine i think people that smoke cigars all the time i think that's still seen as like kind of gross i remember bob you and i we went into party sources humidor oh
Starting point is 00:30:06 yeah the walk-in humidor which was dope oh the walk-in humidor there was something prestigious feeling i mean i think you and i bought like one cigar i don't know if you ever picked it up again we bought seven dollar uh mac and noodles i mean that's Mac and Nudo's totally fine. So you are to smoke, but we bought like, you know, relatively cheap, not interesting cigars at all. For those of you who don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:30 party source is a big, like alcohol store in, uh, it's in Newport. It's like if a Walmart only sold liquor, beer, party supplies, and smokable tobacco.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like it's just a big old party store. Looking back, it's a very strange place, but they did have this big humidor, and what a humidor is, is a humidity-controlled room for cigars. And when you walk in, and it's just boom, tobacco.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You smell it. It gets in your nose. It's everywhere. You can see, like, there's nothing lit in there, but there's just, like, smoke floating in the air. It's just like smoke floating in the air it's it's just like it's great and it's terrible actually yeah but uh i think i tried that whatever cigar we bought i tried it and i was like i didn't know about you're not supposed to inhale it or anything like that and i was like so i never really got into that so um yeah no if you if you inhale cigars
Starting point is 00:31:24 i don't know it's cigars i don't know it's the wrapper i don't know it's different i mean not that inhaling cigarette smoke is any better i guess but it's through a filter secondhand smoke i believe is bad for you something about cigars and breathing it in is just really awful and unbearable but they taste like dirty rags lit on fire that is also what the flavor of maybe it was just the cheap ones but which is good what you really want is a strong scotch with a cigar because then you got dirty rags but you put out the fire with some ground vomit okay i've got a solution for all of this we make candy cigarettes good for you oh yeah those are good for the kiddos that way you can
Starting point is 00:32:04 have the sensation of like the cigarette thing but you have the candy like mark was talking about which the chalky candy by the way it is i believe those probably would be dextrose based what if we made vaping good for you bro what are you talking about man vaping so good for how do we get on the do drugs and alcohol binge i i hope that it's clear that none of our experiences around these things are particularly positive. My only positive experience around cigars is that, like you said, I've mostly smoked cigars during fun times where it's like it's celebrating something. And the cigar is kind of gross, but I remember it fondly because I was like smoking a cigar with my dad for whatever reason. Sure. And actually, Will, bleep out me saying the name because I don't want to encourage it at all I just see this on TikTok a lot and if you know what I'm talking about don't do it or if you do
Starting point is 00:32:52 do it don't convince yourself that it's any better um I don't know which name you're asking him to bleep out so uh we'll bleep that because that's a name brand for a certain type of thing I think and I don't want to mention it because anytime you mention anything people suddenly become aware but they wouldn't ever but it's it's basically like you know uh with chewing tobacco you stick it in your gums and you sure that stuff's gross yeah got it um so this isn't like actual tobacco it's just pure i think nicotine i think it's just straight up a pouch of oh sweet lord crystallized nicotine you stick that in your your stick that in your mouth and i've never tried it and you can tell can you tell you you so no listen i've not tried those
Starting point is 00:33:38 but i saw i love energy drinks right i i have drink energy drinks every day of my life sure and i saw this thing that's that exact idea except it's it's it's like caffeine and and stuff in the form of a little pouch that you tuck in your cheek and you like absorb it and i saw those and in theory i was like okay so i don't have to drink a whole drink but i can still get like the caffeine because i i kind of rely on the caffeine and i have a baby i'm sleepy a lot of the time i need caffeine help i put i bought one a tin of these i put one in my cheek and within 30 seconds i was like why did i think this was a good idea oh am i gonna die oh i i stuck it out because i was curious if it would get better or what did not get better. Awful experience.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Absorbing. Clearly, you're supposed to butt chug it. Oh, suppository caffeine tablets. I would be into that. Ah, caffeineimas. Oh, no. If you want a problem, if you want a problem, you got to look up this thing called Lodi Black Black.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What is that? I don't. That sounds awful. So Lodi Black Black is a chewing gum, right? It is from Japan. And this chewing gum is marketed as strong mint flavor. Perfect to refresh. Strong minty gum that will wake you up.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Product of Japan. There is so much caffeine in this. And maybe nicotine? It's hard to tell. Oh no. Hard to tell? It's hard to tell because you can't read it it's in japanese does anyone speak that language can we translate this don't they have apps that translate things
Starting point is 00:35:12 no no no my cousin was tired he he like had a had a late night with friends and he had to like drive us somewhere and so he was like he got like four hours of sleep so he needed to wake up honestly like i probably shouldn't have been driving but you know he's the only one that could because i don't have a license in korea and i can't drive and he got this gum basically and he tried because i was like oh i need to go get this gum to be able to wake up to be for this and like he took like two pieces of it and he was like he was going from oh i'm so sleepy to this instantly and i'm like what is this stuff and so i take i take stupidly four of them. Cause I was kind of tired.
Starting point is 00:35:48 That's a terrible idea. Look, that's how I chew gum. That's how I chew gum. You saw him take two and change. You're like, I'll double it. Bob knows this.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I don't chew gum one piece at a time. Not two. I do four. Mark, choose the entire pack of gum all at once. Yeah. Unless it's a five pack. I do all five at once.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I don't do small batches of gum. So I pop four in there. Mistake. Yeah. Mistake. I thought I'd been pepper sprayed in my nose. Like it somehow traveled all the way up into my nose. And also I had like a, it was, it was, I had a mask on at the time. Cause we were traveling in Korea and they still had like a mask policy. Generally it was open to go into the country, but you still had to like wear on at the time because we were traveling around Korea and they still had a mask policy generally.
Starting point is 00:36:25 It was open to go into the country, but you still had to wear masks at the time. So every breath I pushed out went straight up my nose. And so if it is just caffeine or whatever the hell is in this, because it doesn't say on the Amazon listing or anything, it woke me up. It was like, I think it must have been smelling salts. It must've had something like that because it was an adrenaline response. It was suddenly, I was panicking like, and if you get smelling salts, that's what it does. That's why it wakes you up so fast because it kicks your body's adrenaline response. Um, I don't know why, but it does. And just, you're just instantly awake.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So yeah, if you want a problem yeah that's your stuff hey so mark i did a google search lottie brand black black gum ingredient list includes a bunch of syrups and starch sugars oolong tea extract some other stuff caffeine and something called nicotinamide i don't think that's i don't think that's nicotine i don't think that is nicotinamide. I don't think that's nicotine. I don't think that is. Nicotinamide is also known as niacinamide. Nicotinamide is a water-soluble amide form of niacin or vitamin B3. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Right. So urban legend holds that the gum contains nicotine. It's a misconception stemming from nicotinamide. Oh, it eases inflammation well you should have felt healthy as an ox after chewing slash inhaling that gum man oolong tea ginkgo extract chrysanthemum caffeine and nicotinamide well now that we've gone over all of the drugs we'd like to be healthy for us hey this was a gum that's food dude i totally had this in college i think i think a
Starting point is 00:38:05 friend i think a friend got a hold of a pack of black black and i had a piece of this in college dude do you remember when i drank three of those mind monster energies and then i took two five hour energies and then i woke up in the middle of the night with my intestines on fire feeling like i was gonna die yeah vaguely yeah that was awful ah that was so awesome dude so terrible man that was horrible man how you you ensue you consumed about 18 hours worth of energy between those five drinks you should have been what was weird is because i went to i was so tired when i took them because that was the counter thing and like adhd that's a thing if you if you caffeine, sometimes it'll make you tired. Like it has a counteractive effect.
Starting point is 00:38:49 But man, if you drink enough of it, it comes back around, man. Boom. Like I'm dying. Like so quickly, like something horribly wrong. And then of course, as, as a normal college student, if you have something horribly wrong where you think you're dying, you much like, you know, an animal at the end of its life cycle, you find a table to crawl under and you hide away from the world. Because I did go into the bathroom and I just, like, sit on a toilet and I just, like, writhed in agony for an hour until it passed. And it was just like, if I died in there, no one would know until morning.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And that's possible. Like, no instinct to go see a doctor. No instinct to get help. Just like, I got to go take care of this or something you gotta poop it out man it's it's on your insides you gotta get it out well that's what i thought nothing happened of course because it's like that's not what it was but it was just like jesus i didn't know anything besides like toilet for stomach pain and just like i was just like yeah it's a miracle we're alive yeah exactly yeah how many points do we get, Wade? Oh, man, you both get some amounts.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Let me think about it. It's even worse nowadays with like nootropic stuff at like convenience stores. The kind of shit you can get behind the counter that's like in those weird paper, like backed plastic wrapped random from who knows where that just says random vague things where it's like, you'll have the energy of a wild boar, and also you'll fuck all night. Or whatever, like that sort of thing. You'll be so focused when you're fucking everything that moves. Oh, what is that?
Starting point is 00:40:20 I don't know, what is that? I don't know. What is TNeptine? What new horrible nightmare is this oh boy gas station heroin what is this uh no don't that doesn't sound like a thing we should do yeah we'll bleep this out i don't want to it's an irritable bowel syndrome that's available at gas stations over the counter why oh my god oh well don't you why that's just concerning sounding honestly i don't know man the the the supplement act kind
Starting point is 00:40:54 of thing it just has led to things like this just appearing everywhere and the the broad category of nootropics that is the wild west of putting shit in your body. Okay, well, I think on that, I'm going to... But imagine if it was healthy! That'd be cool, right? Ingesting and eating those if they were healthy. All those things. What if they were healthy?
Starting point is 00:41:17 Here, actually, what I'll do is I'll... If we do... If we look at the graph here, where this is the nootropics available gas stations, this is like the energy drinks and this is the gum, right? So if we combine all of this and you got the weather pattern coming up from the southwestern regions, the warm water air is going to mix down here and really, really stimulate you to get good grades right here. Can one of you guys send me
Starting point is 00:41:46 the link to wherever you get that green screen that comes up out of the... I feel very inadequate. Mine's just an Elgato green screen. Mine is better than Wade's. Oh, dear. Oh, goodness. Here, I'll fix it.
Starting point is 00:42:03 There. The blue screen! The fabled blue screen! Wow! Honestly, better than a green screen. Blue is better than green. Blue is superior. Oh, look at my white balance now.
Starting point is 00:42:13 That's great. Oh, no! Not the white balance! I thought somehow, Mark, you'd put a blue screen behind your green screen. And then it was just gonna be blue behind the green. God, if I was just so... Oh, man, I wish. How many points do we get wade oh you know what bob i'm putting 100 points for you all right yeah yeah uh mark you know i'm gonna give you 135 thanks okay well that seems i feel like don't worry bob i won't i'm not worried and don't
Starting point is 00:42:43 worry about him not worrying mark you're the real and rightful host and nothing bad is going to happen. So why would I worry? Thank you. Man, this episode's really gotten away from us. But, you know, while we still have some minutes left, this is a related but different topic. If you could make something that smells or tastes bad, smell or taste good. This time I'm limiting it to one. One thing that either smells and or tastes bad to change the sensation of it whenever
Starting point is 00:43:12 it hits your nose and or tongue. It doesn't necessarily have to be something that does, in fact, taste bad or smell bad. You can make it smell or taste better or it could be something you don't like. I have one for this. I have one for this. I could not tell you for the life of me who started the last topic. So if you've got one go for it i would change how i experienced the taste of miso because miso is generally pretty popular miso soup and miso in marinades and like like a lot of people
Starting point is 00:43:37 like miso something about miso hits my palate in a way that's way too like earthy like it like it tastes like dirt to me and it makes me feel like a douchebag because i'm generally pretty open to stuff i like trying new foods i like i'm down to try whatever except stuff with miso with it is like i just randomly won't like it i don't like miso soup i struggle to eat anything that has miso as a major flavor component and like it's not an objectionable flavor i don't think miso is a major flavor component. And like, it's not an objectionable flavor. I don't think miso is a bad flavor at all, objectively. And I don't know why I don't like it. I wish that miso tasted good to me because I feel like everyone else likes it. And it's a cool, it's like fun to cook with. Like I want to buy a thing, a miso paste from the store and use it in my
Starting point is 00:44:17 cooking stuff, but I don't like it. I wouldn't do that. I think that you have a similar thing that a lot of people have that people don't realize is more common because I think the reason Wade doesn't like Mexican food is because he has that thing with cilantro that makes it taste like soap. For me, it's weird because tomatoes are very similar to this. Tomatoes, raw, taste awful. I want to like, I almost want to throw up when I eat them. Like, is it like grassy? What's the flavor you get?
Starting point is 00:44:44 It just is. It's not even really specificallyy? What's the flavor you get? It just is. It's not even really specifically about the flavor because the flavor is similar to when it's cooked. But when it's cooked, it becomes the most delicious thing ever. And I think that's just because there is like glutamate in it and like a natural MSG in tomatoes. And when you cook them, it gets, it's not so much it brings that stuff out. It probably does, but it gets rid of whatever causes me to be repulsed by it.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It is a little soapy when I'm eating or thinking about eating a raw tomato. And it's like for certain people, their palates are just slightly different. Their genes are just slightly different. So their receptors of it are just slightly different. So is your answer tomato or is that just an example? Probably tomato. Yeah, it's just like it just just slightly different. So is your answer tomato or is that just an example? Probably tomato. Yeah, it's just like it just tastes fucking awful. I don't I don't want to be like a snob, but I do wish that I had a more refined palate.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I like food. I like cooking. I spend a lot of time looking at like recipes and cooking techniques. And I love like the culinary world and what is possible. But I'm I have the kind of like taste buds where I'll eat something. Like we'll be at a fancy restaurant. We lived in the Bay Area, right?
Starting point is 00:45:49 So we went to these fancy restaurants in San Francisco and I'll put something in my mouth that's made by some fancy Michelin star chef that they spent all, you know, days making. And I'll, and I know it's very special and I eat it. And I'm like, mm, steak. Tastes like steak. God, I love steak. And I like, and I'm like, mmm, steak. Tastes like steak. God, I love steak.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And I like, and people absolutely can like eat a bite of something and be like, mmm, I know what's in that. That tastes like, mmm, that tastes like this and this and this. I like, I wish I had some of that. Because I really, I have like the palate of like a five-year-old. I like food, but I like Cheez Whiz and Velveeta as much as I like Wagyu beef and fancy ingredients. I feel like if we cooked more and we like tasted something that was just missing that one ingredient that would help narrow that down over time.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Well, and I do that, right? What I cook, I frequently cook something and take a bite and I'm like, this is missing something. I don't know what it is. It's just missing something. I don't, I, and that is like a practice skill. I think you're right. But also I spend a lot of time thinking about food. I've cooked a lot of food and I tried a lot of things. I think I just
Starting point is 00:46:49 have a dumb palate. I think I just have kind of a child's mouth. I don't know. Well, practice makes perfect, but you also have to have some natural skills. So if you're not doing either well enough, then I guess you're just going to fail. Yeah, I definitely don't have the natural talent. I do. I could practice more. You're right. But at the same time, yeah, if you think about it, like you have the concept of what other people experience with like diverse palates. But really, it is like a practicing. If you haven't exposed yourself to a lot of it, you haven't normalized any of those, especially in comparison to like all your other flavors.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So like expanding it out. I had one of the greatest foods I've ever had recently. And I don't know if I talked about this, but I had one of the greatest foods I've ever experienced. And there was a very recent development. I've had ramen before. I've had kimchi ramen. I've had kimchi before. I had kimchi ramen recently at one of my favorite ramen places nearby. It was so delicious. My brain didn't even know how to process how good it tasted right away when I was eating it i was like this is it's overloading me and opening up my palate to new experiences that i've never had before even though i've had those flavors before but it was just like really good tonkotsu ramen with like extremely like long duration cooking pork broth and then there was like this kimchi that they had braised beforehand and then put into the ramen. Oh, interesting. It was such a, it was such a flavor combination and it was so, it had like melded together, but I think I wouldn't have appreciated it as much if I hadn't known kimchi was good and liked
Starting point is 00:48:14 kimchi and known the ramen was good. And then it was like a ratatouille moment where it was like, when it blended in my mouth, all of a sudden the new combinations were just like sparking off in ways. But I don't think I would have appreciated it without like the prior knowledge of kimchi and ramen in general and having a wide varieties of ramen and having a wide variety of kimchi and then seeing these. It was amazing. I don't think you guys would have liked it as much as I had anyway. Maybe, I think it is like a fantastic meal. I think, I think I would have liked it. The like pickly souriness of kimchi, especially braised, I could see exactly how that would go really good with some
Starting point is 00:48:47 tonkatsu. It was incredible. Like, Wade, I don't think this would have been up your alley. Not for like... I'm not a pickly person. Brought out the pickly part of it, but... Yeah, I think it's a lot of different foods, but it was so good. Next time you're in LA, I'll bring you out to this place. It was really good. Ratatouille,
Starting point is 00:49:04 I'm so glad you mentioned the Ratatouille moment. That's like how I judge everything I eat in my life. I've never seen Ratatouille. Oh, great movie. Great movie. Probably my favorite movie. Like every, when I just like eat Wendy's or something, it's like that, that movie is, lives in my head rent free all day, every day.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And I love it. I'll have to watch it. I've heard good things. I always got compared to the main character. You've, you've actually not seen it at it. I've heard good things. I always got compared to the main character. You've actually not seen it at all? I've never seen it. No. Oh, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's so good. You'll love it. You're not unlike Linguini. I'm curious to see what you think. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'll have to give it a shot. To answer the question for me,
Starting point is 00:49:40 the smell of broccoli. I like eating broccoli, but whenever you make broccoli and the way the kitchen smells afterward, like... i get you broccoli after it's cooked and you like just smell it around it's not a flavor that makes me want to eat it smells like garbage to me it makes me think of like the trash that needed to go out a while ago like i'll come into the kitchen after like we've had broccoli and it's like oh what happened what went oh i need to clean this up i kind of get that i love broccoli but i kind of get that. I love broccoli, but I kind of get that.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I love eating broccoli, too. I do like, it's like one of the vegetables I really do like eating, like, all the time. On the flip side, I don't know this right at the moment, but I will say at Melting Pot, the shrimp cooked in coca vin and then dipped into, like, their yellow curry, like, yogurt sauce. That combination, every time i eat it is like a eureka in my mind it's always the last bite and then like after you eat the main course if you do the four course thing they bring out like the chocolate and stuff nothing in the dessert feels like it's worth being my last bite compared to the shrimp and curry like i want that to be
Starting point is 00:50:40 something i can eat so much more readily available i don't know how they make that curry sauce exactly it's not that hard you could do it but that shrimp and curry every time i eat it's like the first time i tasted it some foods you eat is like the first time you eat it it's like oh my god this is so good the shrimp and curry i always know how good it is and every time i taste it i'm never disappointed or like it's like the second best time i've had it it's like the first time every time it's so good let's be with this ramen it is just like I've only had it three times and it is like already replacing um chicken dumplings as my favorite meal what it is it is that good well are you gonna learn how are you gonna learn how to make it no I don't think I could because I don't have the patience to like cook this broth because
Starting point is 00:51:20 it's like it's like a 24-hour broth of just like you take pork of who knows what parts of the pig and just like just all the parts boil it for 24 hours and then you got good ramen noodles how do you even make that you know what though i bet mark you should look into pork demi-glace i learned recently what demi-glace is i bet if you use demi-glace as a starting point for a tonkatsu broth you would have something and braising kimchi is super easy oh absolutely that i could do definitely just like but it's like what kimchi are they using from who it really depends on the brand you're getting of kimchi if you're getting the right kimchi that's true and you can make your own kimchi that's actually a pretty bomb it's not it's not too difficult no just take some prep but most of it's the fermentation process itself but when you then
Starting point is 00:52:02 you get to like pick exactly what's in it. And there are certain veggies that are kind of like super, super good additions to. Yeah. Like daikon. Dude, kimchi marinated, like fermented daikon is so good. And that's what's such a tragedy is like, I worry about this place going out of business now because I'm like, if it goes out of business, because it's not a chain, it's just one place. It's gone forever. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And I'm like like they charge really affordable prices for this food and i'm like ramen can vary from places but if you would think like a ramen that i'm saying like is my greatest ramen ever it's 17 for this ramen and i'm like how the fuck that's pretty good for a spot in like the la area like yeah i'm just like how are you selling this for 70 this would i would pay 80 for this it is that good i don't want them to but i'm just like how are you selling this for 70 this would i would pay 80 for this it is that good i don't want them to but i'm like i don't go out of business i don't want to have to try to make this myself i don't want to have to hunt down the owner and be like you're not my personal chef now and you you make this every day you make this for me you make this for me
Starting point is 00:53:01 for me and maybe amy and maybe my friends when they come over. About me. How many points do we get, Wade? 25 each. That's way less than last time. It was a lot less time. I have a whole list of questions here. They're not all food related, but I feel like we've kind of stuck with the food theme and we only really got time for one more question. So I'm going to stick with that theme. Best
Starting point is 00:53:19 food to either see or hear while it's cooking. To either look at it cook and just feel like a pleasant sensation or to hear the sound of something cooking in a certain way. Which sensation can go with see or hear and what food? Only see or hear, not like smell. Specifically see or hear for this one. Something that's just pleasant to watch cook or something that's pleasant to hear cooking.
Starting point is 00:53:43 While you guys are thinking i can i can give an example for me sure um nostalgia speaking the sound of sizzling bacon because growing up my grandma whenever she would make breakfast i would always hear the sound of the bacon start to cook and that meant that like one of my favorite all-time meals was being made but nowadays it just also reminds me of my grandma who i lost a long time ago at this point so whenever i hear something sizzle just like the moment you put it in there, like it starts popping and sizzling. That noise is just like all of the right things are released in my brain when I hear that
Starting point is 00:54:13 noise. Ah, I got one. Okay. Yeah. No, I like this. This is a good question. Do you want, do you want to go first this time, Mark? Or no, you go, you go, you got this.
Starting point is 00:54:21 For me, it's, it could be anything, but I'm going to specifically pick burgers on the grill. And because you get like, you don't watch it cook the whole time, right? You close the grill in between. So you get like a little mini montage of like, you open the grill for the first time, you put the burgers on, you close it. You come back to flip them the first time
Starting point is 00:54:42 and they're like a little cooked and you flip them and they're all in the fire. You know, the fat makes a little fire or something and you close it. And like every time you come back, they look more and more like burgers. And then like the last time you put some cheese on and like maybe you put a little cheese cover on or you just close it, open it back up and they're like perfect looking cheeseburgers that month because it's so quick, too. I mean, burgers cooking like they're very quick, like minutes ten minutes maybe usually unless they're like enormous burgers so it's like every couple
Starting point is 00:55:08 minutes you just get a little update and then at the end you just have delicious looking burgers and it's like very it's very satisfying because every every time you open it you're like ah it worked it worked again they're burgers and they go fresh from grill to bun you put on your toppings whatever they're just good to go i think like it's it's kind of a cop-out answer but soup you know the sound of soup or the look of soup all of it my mom's chicken and dumpling i love just the rolling boil oh you're kissing ass for your last answer i got you because you dropped chicken and dumplings down a spot so that's cracker barrel dumplings. I'm talking about my mom's chicken and dumplings, which is very different. Are those still above the pickled kimchi? No.
Starting point is 00:55:50 God, no. Fuck no. Fuck no. Anyway, sorry. Go ahead. Soup. And pickled kimchi. That's such a farcical misunderstanding.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I want to take kimchi and make pickles with it and see what happens. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Tell us about tell us about the sound and smell or no the look and uh this guy can't even remember his own question sight look and see look and sound look and see the sound of it or the look of it cooking or both that was what it was the sound or the look that was about the look and see yeah when you look at it or you see when you're looking?
Starting point is 00:56:25 I still haven't recovered from the fact that half my episode's been about drugs, so I'm trying to move on here. It was not half about drugs. We could make it more about drugs. No, no, soup! Seeing methamphetamine cooking. That shit, ooh! When it turns blue and you crack it with the hammer. Is that your
Starting point is 00:56:41 mom's soup? Yeah, that's what I call it. That's what everyone on the street calls it anyway. You know, for secrets. that your mom's soup yeah that's what i call it that's what everyone on the street calls it anyway you know for secrets is um no it's soup it's just like it's so cool to see like you add ingredients to the same pot you just keep stirring and keep the heat going and you chop up ingredients and you see the soup evolve and like then the smell permeates your entire house and like it's such a visual thing you could stare at the boiling stuff all day and sometimes i do just like looking at it because it's like a non-stop evolving like landscape of different changing like things bobbing up and boiling down it's it's i don't
Starting point is 00:57:15 know it's hypnotic it's captivating and the sound of like bubbling water is is very much you know especially if it's if it thickens to soup gets really cool because it goes from being basically like watery almost a lot of the time like it starts it starts as like broth or water or something but it'll get like thicker or creamier or something like it's it is kind of magic i was gonna go and look alone i think eggs might be the most interesting thing to watch cook really because if you scramble them they turn out very different than if you fry them or if you pop the yolk and you watch the yolk drain and like cook up. I think eggs are just interesting to watch cook. I think that's called ruining an egg, but go on.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah, that's gross. I don't like my eggs with wet yolk. You don't like a runny yolk? You like them over hard? I don't like yolk at all. That's the gushy delicious part of the egg. That's the egg-ussy. It's the good gushy gross part.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I swallow my yolks whole so I don't have to taste them. That's the egg-ussy. It's the good gushy gross part. I swallow my yolks whole so I don't have to taste them. I tolerate the yolk as well. That's the part that makes stuff like mayonnaise or Caesar dressing delicious. The yolk is the good part. Man, don't like those two things. That's crazy. Well, I mean, I don't mind those two things, but it's just like the yolk itself is like, I know that's where all the flavor is. And I say, yeah, all the bad flavors. I just don't't want them i know the nutrition is there and i just don't like to taste it eggs are just interesting to watch they go from transparent to like the white the the yolk again if you pop if you cook it like it is and you just watch the yolk stay there it's like is it gonna pop itself it's getting
Starting point is 00:58:37 so hot in there what's gonna happen popcorn ah that's the most fun to watch uh popcorn's overrated medium on popcorn smell of popcorn you walk by, popcorn's overrated. Medium on popcorn. Smell a popcorn. You walk by a popcorn stand and, oh, the movie theater popcorn. Oh. You know what smells good about that? It's not the popcorn.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It's the butter juice. Oh, no. I don't like, no. If you put that jizzy butter sauce on anything, it smells the same. Popcorn might as well be packing peanuts. No, I don't like the butter juice. I like the- That's what that smell is. Popcorn might as well be packing peanuts. No, I don't like the butter juice. I like that. That's what that smell is. Popcorn has no flavor on its own.
Starting point is 00:59:10 If you don't put salt and butter on popcorn, popcorn tastes the same as a packing peanut. No, it doesn't. It tastes fine. Plain popcorn is okay. It does like no flavor. Yeah, I know. Much like egg whites, which I prefer. they're a vehicle for enhancement i will give it that it's a vehicle for enhancement and it is popcorn is only good if it has powdered cheese on it or mustard cheese yeah like cheddar popcorn you mean powder this guy's a cheddar popcorn guy i gotta reign this in a white cheddar popcorn guy thank you you. No, no, no. Packing peanuts in your mouth, Bob, I'm sorry. You had to lose points for even mentioning that because that... Wait, I've got some
Starting point is 00:59:49 styrofoam over here. Would you like to see me take a bite? No, no, no, no, no. Bob, I'll give you back the points I just deducted if you don't touch it. Don't take my points. It's wrapped in plastic, so it doesn't make the styrofoam sound. Just put it down. But if I take the plastic off... I'm going to announce the winner now without being able to hear you guys great episode ish can't i cannot hear thank god
Starting point is 01:00:11 it's not even making a sound i don't don't know it wasn't worth the risk whatever you're saying you know mark your reign of terror was long I'm afraid to give this back to you. Bob, you were winning this until the styrofoam came up. However, the styrofoam did come up. And now I have to decide whether the surprise ending of Mark losing points for his reign of terror is more lost points or you hitting me with styrofoam is worth more lost points. I'm going to make you a burger, but it's going to be styrofoam and and you're gonna take a big bite of it next time i see you if i let you win or lose wouldn't you like to know yes that might determine the outcome since i'm seeing you in like three days two days yeah the time is short you better make the right choice what is the right
Starting point is 01:01:01 choice what do you want i think you know what the right choice is. Mark, you just happened to lose a few more points than Bob. That's crazy. Oh, man, but I'm invoking a handshake. Wade, you've made the wrong choice. Mark, you have managed to win by invoking a handshake deal, and I guess your reign of terror is back. Wrong choice. I have to honor the handshake, Bob.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Styrofoam cheeseburger. Oh, man. Mark, do you have a... You know what, Bob? Do you have a loser speech? You go first, because once we get it to Mark, we may never talk again. I've never cooked with styrofoam before,
Starting point is 01:01:38 but I guess we'll see how this goes. Do you think it sticks to the grill? Do I need some spray or something? I hear if you take two pieces of styrofoam and clean your grill, it's the cleanest your grill will ever be. Oh, yeah. So you just rub them together so they squeak insanely
Starting point is 01:01:56 little. Oh, I feel better about losing now that I know that that happened. Great speech. Mark, do you have a winner's speech? Wow, this is so unexpected. I'm glad that it turned out this way. I just like, you know, you get a surprise package in the mail and you open it up.
Starting point is 01:02:16 You remove all the styrofoam. You fling them out there. You rip them to pieces trying to get at what's inside. Just like styrofoam falling all over each other. And then at the bottom of it is victory it's victory the truest victory that a man could ever hope for so thank you i appreciate this win um it is deserved and i shall make sure that my next episode is filled to the brim with technological discussions and uh wonders of the universe this was a pretty quick handshake deal
Starting point is 01:02:44 redemption but i'm glad it's done with and we don't have to have it hanging over us anymore and wonders of the universe. This was a pretty quick handshake deal redemption, but I'm glad it's done with and we don't have to have it hanging over us anymore. Yeah, it really worked out. Bob, for the record, the handshake deal was if I got points, which I thought would give me the win in the first FNAF tier list, I would give Mark this handshake deal win.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I was not expecting him to give me more points than you and then start a reign of terror, so I got fucked and karma hit me hard for my handshake deal. That's basically what I thought happened. You have no one to blame except yourself. I have no, I feel no sympathy whatsoever. I'll stop threatening you with styrofoam since it's not your fault, I guess.
Starting point is 01:03:16 How about that? Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate that. If you're new here, go follow us. Mark Markiplier. Bob at MySkirm. I'm Wade.
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Starting point is 01:03:41 I don't know. Until then then podcast out

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