Disturbing History - DH Ep:66 Shadows Over the White House

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

Tonight's episode takes you inside the most famous house on the planet for two stories that are equally strange and equally disturbing. The first is about a ghost that won't leave. Abraham Lincoln is ...the most frequently reported spirit in the history of the White House, seen by presidents, first ladies, prime ministers, and queens over the span of more than a hundred and fifty years.But this isn't just a ghost story. It's a deep dive into Lincoln's own fascination with the supernatural, the séances held inside the White House after the death of his son Willie, and the explosive Spiritualism movement that swept across Civil War-era America as a nation drowning in grief searched desperately for a way to talk to its dead. Winston Churchill saw him. Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands fainted at the sight of him. Eleanor Roosevelt felt him standing behind her. And the sightings have never stopped.The second story is a murder mystery that took a hundred and forty-one years to investigate. President Zachary Taylor dropped dead in eighteen fifty, just five days after a Fourth of July celebration, and his death handed the presidency to a man who immediately reversed everything Taylor had fought for. Taylor was a slaveholder who'd turned against slavery's expansion, and his death was the single most convenient thing that could've happened for the pro-slavery forces trying to pass the Compromise of eighteen fifty. In nineteen ninety-one, a university professor convinced the state of Kentucky to dig him up and test his remains for arsenic.What they found, and what they didn't find, is a story that raises as many questions as it answers.Two presidents. One who never left the building, and one who left it far too soon.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is history they hoped you'd forget. I'm Brian, investigator, author, and your guide through the dark corners of our collective memory. Each week I'll narrate some of the most chilling and little-known tales from history that will make you question everything you thought you knew. And here's the twist. Sometimes, the history is disturbing to us. And sometimes, we have to disturb history itself, just to get to the truth. If you like your facts with the side of fear, if you're not afraid to pull at threads, others leave alone.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You're in the right place. History isn't just written by the victors. Sometimes it's rewritten by the disturbed. Tonight, we've got something a little different for you. Two stories. Both set inside the most powerful house on the planet, both involving presidents of the United States. And both, in their own very different ways, are going to make you question what you think know about American history. The first story is about a ghost, not just any ghost, but the most
Starting point is 00:03:21 frequently reported apparition in the history of the White House, a spirit so persistent and so undeniable that presidents, first ladies, prime ministers, and heads of state from around the world, have encountered it. We're talking about Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president, who it seems never really left the building. And what makes this one so compelling isn't just the sightings themselves. It's the context. Because Lincoln, in life, was a man haunted. He attended seances in the White House. He told friends he dreamed of his own assassination. He was surrounded by death, consumed by the bloodiest war this nation's ever fought, and he lost a child right there in the residence while the country tore itself apart around him. So when people say his ghost still
Starting point is 00:04:07 walks the halls, you've got to ask yourself, what kind of psychic imprint does that much suffering leave behind. The second story is a murder mystery. Maybe. In 1850, President Zachary Taylor, a war hero beloved by millions, dropped dead after just 16 months in office. The official cause of death was acute gastroenteritis, probably cholera, they said, brought on by eating too many cherries and drinking too much cold milk at a Fourth of July celebration. And for 140 years, That was the story. Until in 1991, they actually dug the man up, literally exhumed the 12th president of the United States
Starting point is 00:04:48 to test his remains for arsenic. Because there'd always been whispers. Whispers that Taylor hadn't just gotten sick. Whispers that he'd been murdered by pro-slavery forces who saw him as a traitor to the southern cause. Whispers of conspiracy at the highest levels of American government. Both stories are strange. Both are in their own.
Starting point is 00:05:09 way, deeply disturbing, and both reveal something uncomfortable about the House where American power lives and the men who've occupied it. Let's start with the dead president who won't leave. The White House has always had a reputation. If you believe the stories, and there are a lot of them, the place is one of the most haunted buildings in the Western Hemisphere. And honestly, when you think about it, why wouldn't it be? The building's been standing since 1800. It survived a British invasion that nearly burned it to the ground. It's housed 46 presidents, their families, their staffs, their secrets, and their sorrows.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Wars have been planned inside those walls. Assassinations have been ordered, treaties signed, empires built and dismantled. And through all of it, the house has absorbed every triumph and every tragedy like a sponge. But no presence lingers in that building quite like Abraham Lincoln's. To understand why Lincoln's ghost has become the defining supernatural fixture of the White House, you've got to first understand the man himself.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And not the marble statue version. Not the great emancipator carved in stone. The real Lincoln. The complicated, tormented, deeply strange human being who occupied the presidency during the most catastrophic period in American history. Abraham Lincoln was, by almost any measure, one of the most psychologically complex men ever to hold the office. He suffered from what is contemporaries called melancholy, what we today almost certainly diagnose as clinical depression. He spoke openly about it. He joked about it in that dark, fatalistic way that depressed people sometimes do. His law partner William Herndon said that Lincoln's melancholy dripped from him as he walked. Friends worried about him constantly. There were at least two documented episodes
Starting point is 00:07:03 earlier in his life where those close to him genuinely feared he might take his own life. But here's where it gets interesting, and where our story really begins to take shape. Lincoln wasn't just depressed. He was, by all accounts, deeply interested in the supernatural. Some historians have gone so far as to call him the most psychically inclined president in American history, and the evidence for that claim is surprisingly robust. Lincoln grew up in the frontier culture of Kentucky and Indiana, a world steeped in folk beliefs, superstitions, and what people
Starting point is 00:07:38 at the time called signs. His mother, Nancy Hanks Lincoln, was reportedly a believer in dreams and omens. The culture of the early 19th century frontier was one where the line between the natural and the supernatural was blurry at best. People read signs in weather patterns, in animal behavior, in dreams. Death was ever present, striking children and adults alike with a randomness that made the veil between this world and the next feel paper thin. Lincoln carried these sensibilities with him into adulthood, and when he arrived at the White House in 1861, he brought them straight through the front door. Now, to understand what happened inside that building during the Lincoln years, you've got to understand something about the cultural moment. The 1860s weren't just the era of the Civil War.
Starting point is 00:08:29 They were also the golden age of American spiritualism, a religious and cultural movement that swept across the country like wildfire in the decades before and during the war. Spiritualism, at its core, held that the living could communicate with the dead, typically through the mediation of specially gifted individuals, known as mediums. And this wasn't some fringe belief held by a handful of eccentrics. Spiritualism claimed millions of adherents across America and Europe. Prominent scientists, writers, politicians, and social reformers were open believers. It was, for a time, one of the most significant religious movements in the Western world. The movement had been born in 1848 in a small farmhouse in Hydesville, New York, where two young sisters named Margaret and Kate Fox claimed to have made
Starting point is 00:09:20 contact with the spirit of a murdered peddler through a series of mysterious rapping sounds. The story goes that the girls heard unexplained knocking in their bedroom at night, and they developed a system of communication with whatever was making the noise. One knock for yes, two for no. The spirit they did. claimed, identified itself as a man named Charles B. Rosna, a traveling peddler who'd been murdered and buried in the cellar of the house by a previous tenant. The Fox Sisters became overnight celebrities. Newspapers across the country picked up the story. Skeptics and believers alike flocked to Hidesville to witness the phenomenon. And within months, seances were
Starting point is 00:10:01 being conducted in parlors and churches across the northeast. Within a few years, the movement had gone international. Professional mediums, most of them women, set up shop in every major American city, offering grieving families the chance to speak with their departed loved ones. The movement attracted some remarkable adherence. Horace Greeley, the founder and editor of the New York Tribune, one of the most influential newspapers in America, was an enthusiastic supporter. So was William Lloyd Garrison, the great abolitionist. The poet William Cullen Bryan attended seances. So did Harriet Beecher Stowe, the author of Uncle Tom's Cabin, who claimed that the spirit of a dead child had helped her write parts of the novel. Even serious scientists were intrigued.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Robert Hare, a professor of chemistry at the University of Pennsylvania, initially set out to debunk spiritualism and ended up becoming a convinced believer after a series of experiments that he couldn't explain. The mediums themselves were an extraordinary group. Many were women, and the movement gave them a public platform and a degree of authority that was virtually unprecedented in 19th century America. At a time when women couldn't vote, couldn't own property in many states, and were generally excluded from public life, female medium stood before audiences of hundreds, channeled the voices of the dead, and commanded the attention of some of the most powerful people in the country. Spiritualism was, in a very real sense, one of the first feminist movements in
Starting point is 00:11:33 American history, even if it wasn't recognized as such at the time. Of course, fraud was rampant. Many mediums were outright charlatans who used sleight of hand, hidden accomplices, and rigged equipment to produce their effects. Table-tipping, one of the most popular phenomena was easily faked. So-called spirit photography, in which ghostly figures appeared in portraits, was accomplished through simple double exposure techniques. And the famous spirit cabinets used by many mediums, enclosed spaces from which mysterious sounds and physical manifestations emerged, were typically fitted with secret panels and trap doors. But here's the thing that made spiritualism so resilient.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Even when individual mediums were exposed as frauds, the movement itself didn't lose credibility. Believers simply concluded that the exposed medium had been a bad apple and moved on to the next one. The desire to communicate with the dead was so powerful, so fundamental to the human experience. of grief that no amount of debunking could kill it. And then the Civil War came, and spiritualism exploded. Think about it. Between 1861 and 1865,
Starting point is 00:12:46 somewhere between 620,000 and 750,000 Americans died in the conflict. Some modern estimates push that number even higher, past 800,000. The scale of death was almost incomprehensible. Every town in America lost sons. Every church held funerals. The country was drowning in grief and traditional religion, with its promises of heavenly reunion at some unspecified future date, wasn't enough for many people.
Starting point is 00:13:15 They wanted to talk to their dead. They wanted to know their boys were okay. They wanted comfort, and they wanted it now. Spiritualism offered exactly that, and the movement's practitioners were more than happy to provide. Into this cultural maelstrom stepped Abraham Lincoln, and more importantly, his wife, Mary Todd Lincoln. Mary Todd Lincoln was, to put it delicately, a complicated woman.
Starting point is 00:13:41 She was intelligent, well-educated, politically savvy, and absolutely ravaged by grief and mental illness. Her life was a catalog of losses that would have broken most people. She'd lost her mother as a child. She'd lost three of her four sons, two of them in childhood. She'd eventually lose her husband to an assassin's bullet. And in between those towering tragedies, she endured the constant grinding stress of being the first lady during a civil war, a role that subjected her to vicious public criticism,
Starting point is 00:14:13 accusations of disloyalty, and relentless social cruelty. But the loss that truly shattered Mary Lincoln, the one that opened the door to what came next, was the death of her son, Willie. William Wallace Lincoln, called Willie by the family, was 11 years old when his father took office. He was, by all accounts, the brightest of the Lincoln children, a sweet, curious, bookish boy whom his father adored. Abraham Lincoln, who was famously indulgent with his children, had a particular bond with Willie. Friends and colleagues noted that of all his sons, Willie was the one who most resembled his father in temperament and intellect. On February 20th,
Starting point is 00:14:55 1862, Willie Lincoln died in the White House. The cause was almost certainly typhoid fever, contracted from the contaminated water supply that served the executive mansion. The water came from the Potomac River, which at the time also served as an open sewer for the military camps that surrounded Washington. Willie had been sick for weeks. His parents had watched him fade. And when the end came, it came in the very building where his father was trying to hold together a nation that was tearing itself apart. Abraham Lincoln was devastated. Witnesses said he wept openly, uncontrollably, in a way that shocked the staff and cabinet members who'd never seen him lose his composure. He reportedly went into Willie's room repeatedly in the days after the
Starting point is 00:15:40 death, looking at the body, touching the boy's face. He told his secretary, John Nicolay, My poor boy, he was too good for this earth. God has called him home. I know that he's much better off in heaven, but then we loved him so. It is hard, hard to have him done. die. Mary Lincoln's reaction was even more extreme. She was so incapacitated by grief that she couldn't attend the funeral. She took to her bed and didn't emerge for weeks. She never again entered the room where Willie died, or the green room where his body had been embalmed. Her morning became so intense, so prolonged, so all-consuming, that Lincoln himself reportedly led her to a window, pointed toward a building that housed a mental institution, and told her gently that if she could
Starting point is 00:16:28 couldn't pull herself together, that was where she'd end up. And it was in the immediate aftermath of Willie's death that the seances began. Mary Lincoln, desperate to reach her dead son, began inviting mediums to the White House. This wasn't done in total secrecy, though it wasn't exactly publicized either. Stay tuned for more disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. The most prominent of these mediums were Nettie Colburn-Meynard, a young trance medium from Connecticut, and Charles Shackle, who was known for his dramatic table-tipping demonstrations.
Starting point is 00:17:06 There were others, too. The Lories, a Washington couple who conducted seances, were frequent visitors. Cranston Lorry, the husband, was actually a clerk at the post office department, which gives you some sense of how mainstream spiritualism had become. This wasn't some underground counterculture. It was ordinary Americans engaging in what they genuinely believed was communication with the dead. The sayances at the White House were, by all accounts, elaborate affairs. They typically took place in the red room or one of the upstairs parlors.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Participants would sit around a table, often holding hands, while the medium entered a trance state and attempted to channel the spirits of the dead. Some sessions involved table tipping, where the table would allegedly rock and move of its own accord. Others involved the medium speaking in the voices of the departed, relaying messages from the other side. side. Some mediums produced physical phenomena, objects moving, lights appearing, unexplained sounds, though skeptics then and now have attributed these effects to trickery. One particularly notable session involving Charles Shockle was witnessed by several prominent individuals, including Colonel Simon F. Case, a Pennsylvania Railroad executive, and Daniel Summs, a former congressman from Maine.
Starting point is 00:18:25 According to their accounts during the seance, a piano in the room began to shake and move. The instrument reportedly rose several inches off the floor, with the medium seated at the keyboard. Case and Psalms, both heavy men, attempted to hold the piano down by sitting on it, and claimed they could not stop the levitation. Whether this actually happened as described is, of course, impossible to verify. But the fact that multiple witnesses of respectable social standing were willing to publicly attest, to it. It tells you something about the cultural moment. Mary Lincoln also famously sat for a spirit photograph with the Boston photographer William Mumler in 1872, several years after her
Starting point is 00:19:07 husband's assassination. The resulting photograph appears to show a ghostly figure standing behind Mary with its hands on her shoulders. The figure bears a resemblance to Abraham Lincoln. Mumler was later tried for fraud, though he was acquitted, and modern analysis has shown that his spirit photographs were almost certainly produced through double exposure. But Mary Lincoln believed the photograph was genuine, and she treasured it for the rest of her life. The question that has fascinated historians for over a century and a half is this. Did Abraham Lincoln himself participate in these seances? And if so, how seriously did he take them? The answer, frustratingly, is complicated. We know for certain that Lincoln attended at least some of the seances held in the White House.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Nettie Colburn-Maynard later wrote a memoir, published in 1891, in which she described multiple sessions attended by the president. She claimed that during one notable seance in December of 1862, she entered a trance state and delivered a lengthy discourse to Lincoln about the necessity of issuing the Emancipation Proclamation. She said the president listened attentively and that afterward he told her, My child, you possess a very singular gift, but that it is of God, I have no doubt. Now there's reason to take Maynard's account with a grain of salt. She was writing nearly 30 years after the fact, and she had obvious motivation to inflate her own importance. But her basic claim, that Lincoln attended seances, is corroborated by multiple other sources.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Several of Lincoln's associates mentioned his attendance at these events. Some described him as genuinely curious. Others characterized him as more of an amused skeptic, attending to humor his wife and satisfy his own intellectual curiosity about how the mediums pulled off their tricks. The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Lincoln was a man who defied easy categorization. He was simultaneously a rigorous logical thinker, a self-taught lawyer who could tear apart a bad argument with surgical precision, and a deeply superstitious frontier son who believed in dreams, omens, and premonitions. He contained multitudes, as they say.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And speaking of dreams, we've got to talk about the most famous one. In April of 1865, just days before his assassination, Lincoln told a small group that included his wife and his friend Ward Hill Lyman about a dream he'd recently had. Lehman later recorded Lincoln's words as follows. Lincoln said he'd dreamed he was wandering through the White House late at night. Everything was quiet, too quiet. He could hear distant sobbing, the sound of many people. weeping. He wandered from room to room but couldn't find the source. Finally, he entered the east
Starting point is 00:21:58 room and found a corpse laid out on a catafalque, surrounded by mourners and guarded by soldiers. He asked one of the soldiers, who was dead in the White House? And the soldier replied, the president. He was killed by an assassin. Lincoln said the shock of the answer woke him up, and he couldn't sleep for the rest of the night. Mary Todd Lincoln was reportedly horrified by this story. Lincoln tried to calm or down, pointing out that the dead president in the dream could have been someone else, that he wasn't the only president, but the damage was done. And then, on the evening of April 14, 1865, Abraham Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theater. He died the following morning.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Now, it's important to note that the dream story comes to us primarily through Ward Hill Lehman, who didn't publish his account until years later. Layman was a loyal friend to Lincoln, but also a man with his own agenda and his own flair for dramatic storytelling. Some historians question whether the dream account is entirely accurate, or whether Lehman may have embellished it in hindsight, adding details that made the prophecy seem more precise than it actually was. But even if we discount some of the details, the core of the story that Lincoln had premonitions of his own death is supported by enough secondary evidence to be taken seriously. Lincoln spoke to multiple people in the final weeks of his life about a sense of foreboding.
Starting point is 00:23:25 He told his bodyguard, William Crook, goodbye, rather than his usual good night on the evening of the assassination. A detail crook found disturbing enough to remember for the rest of his life. So here was a man who was psychically sensitive, grieving, exhausted, depressed, attended seances in the White House, dreamed of his own death, and then was murdered in one of the most traumatic events in American history. mystery. If any human being was going to leave an imprint on a building, it was Abraham Lincoln. And that brings us to the ghost. The first reported sightings of Lincoln's spirit in the White House came relatively quickly after his death, though the earliest accounts are vague and hard to pin down. What we do know is that by the late 19th century, White House staff members were already telling stories. Dorman, maids, and valets reported hearing heavy footsteps in the second
Starting point is 00:24:18 floor hallway late at night, the sound of someone pacing. Others reported hearing knocking at their bedroom doors, only to find no one there when they opened them. But the reports really picked up steam in the 20th century, and that's where we start getting accounts from people whose credibility is hard to dismiss. Let's start with the big one. Winston Churchill. The exact details of Churchill's encounter vary depending on which version you hear, but the basic story has been told so many times by so many credible sources that the core of it is generally accepted as true. During World War II, Churchill was a frequent guest at the White House. He and Franklin Roosevelt had a close relationship,
Starting point is 00:25:00 and Churchill would sometimes stay for weeks at a time, treating the place almost like a second home. He was known to work late into the night, take long baths while drinking scotch and smoking cigars, and generally keep hours that horrified the White House staff. The most commonly told version of the story goes like this. Churchill had just emerged from a hot bath in the Lincoln bedroom, which in those days was actually used as a bedroom for distinguished guests.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He was stark naked, cigar in hand, and he walked into the adjoining room. And there, standing by the fireplace, was Abraham Lincoln. Churchill, never a man to be easily rattled, reportedly looked at the apparition and said, Good evening, Mr. President. You seem to have me at a disadvantage. Lincoln reportedly smiled and then vanished. Churchill never again slept in the Lincoln bedroom.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He insisted on being moved to a room across the hall for the remainder of his stays at the White House. Now, did this actually happen exactly as described? We don't know. Churchill was famously a drinker, and it's possible the entire incident was a product of scotch and exhaustion. But Churchill told the story himself. and he wasn't the type of man to fabricate ghost stories for attention.
Starting point is 00:26:17 He had nothing to gain and a great deal of credibility to lose by telling such a tale. And Churchill was far from alone. Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands, who stayed at the White House during the same period, reported an even more dramatic encounter. She said she was awakened by a knock on her bedroom door in the middle of the night. When she opened it, she saw the tall, unmistakable figure of Abraham Lincoln, standing in the hallway, looking directly at her. She fainted.
Starting point is 00:26:46 When she came to, the figure was gone. Wilhelmina told this story to multiple people, and she was known as a serious, no-nonsense monarch, who wasn't given to flights of fancy. Eleanor Roosevelt never claimed to have seen Lincoln's ghost, but she spoke openly about sensing his presence. She said that when she worked late at night in the Lincoln bedroom, which she used as a study,
Starting point is 00:27:08 she would often feel as though someone was standing behind, her, watching her. She described it as a feeling so strong it would sometimes cause her to turn around, expecting to find someone there. The room was always empty, but the feeling persisted. President Theodore Roosevelt, who occupied the White House from 1901 to 1909, mentioned Lincoln's ghost in his correspondence. He wrote to a friend that he could feel Lincoln's presence in the building, particularly in the rooms Lincoln had used most frequently during his presidency. Roosevelt was careful with his language. He didn't claim to have seen a ghost, but he acknowledged that there was something in the house that defied easy explanation. Grace Coolidge, the wife of
Starting point is 00:27:51 President Calvin Coolidge, reported seeing Lincoln's ghost standing at a window in the Oval office, looking out toward the Potomac with his hands clasped behind his back. She described the figure as unmistakable in its tall, gaunt silhouette, dressed in a dark suit. She said the apparition lasted only a few moments before fading away. Lillian Rogers Parks, who worked as a seamstress at the White House for over 30 years, spanning several administrations, wrote about Lincoln's ghost in her 1961 memoir. She said the staff spoke about it regularly and matter-of-factly, the way you'd talk about any other feature of the building. The elevators are slow, the plumbing is old, and Lincoln's ghost walks the halls at night. It was just part of the job.
Starting point is 00:28:37 During the Truman administration, the reports continued. President Harry Truman, a practical Missourian who wasn't exactly the mystical type, wrote to his wife Bess about the strange atmosphere of the White House. In one letter, he described the building as haunted, sure as shooting. He wrote about hearing mysterious knocks on his bedroom door in the early morning hours, footsteps in the hallway, and strange settling sounds that couldn't easily be explained by the building's age. Truman was characteristically matter-of-fact about it.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He didn't claim to have seen a ghost, but he acknowledged that something was going on. The Truman years are particularly interesting because of the massive renovation that took place between 1948 and 1952. The White House was found to be structurally unsound. Its wooden interior frame so deteriorated that the building was in danger of collapse.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Truman ordered a complete gutting of the interior. Everything was stripped out. walls, floors, ceilings, everything, and rebuilt with a steel frame. The exterior walls were retained, but the building's interior was essentially new construction. You'd think that kind of renovation would exercise any ghosts. After all, if spirits are somehow attached to the physical fabric of a building, replacing that fabric should eliminate them. But the Lincoln sightings continued after the renovation,
Starting point is 00:30:00 which either suggests that ghosts aren't bound by the rules we'd expect, or that the phenomenon has more to do with the psychology of the occupants than the physics of the building. The sightings continued into the modern era as well. During the Reagan administration, the president's daughter Maureen Reagan and her husband Dennis Revel, both reported seeing a translucent figure in the Lincoln bedroom. Maureen described it as a shadowy three-dimensional shape that appeared near the window. The Reagan's dog, Rex, was reportedly so spooked by the Lincoln bedroom that he'd refused to enter. it, barking furiously at the doorway and backing away. Animals, of course, have long been
Starting point is 00:30:40 reported to react to alleged paranormal phenomena, though skeptics point out that dogs bark at lots of things. President Ronald Reagan himself joked about Lincoln's ghost on more than one occasion, though he was careful never to claim a personal siding. His wife Nancy, however, told reporters that she'd felt Lincoln's presence in the building and that she found it comforting rather than frightening. She said she sometimes sensed him watching over the house, as if he were still trying to protect the nation from whatever room he happened to be haunting. Even in more recent years, White House staff have continued to report strange experiences. The details are harder to come by in the modern era, partly because the White House communications operation has become much more sophisticated
Starting point is 00:31:24 and guards against stories that might make the building seem, well, haunted. But off the record, staff members have continued to tell stories about unexplained footsteps, cold spots in the hallways, and the persistent feeling of being watched in certain rooms. The Lincoln bedroom itself has a complicated history. Stay tuned for more disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. The room Lincoln actually used as his bedroom is not the room that bears his name today. What we now call the Lincoln bedroom was, during Lincoln's presidency, used as his office and cabinet room.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It's where he signed the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1st, 1863. The room was later converted into a bedroom and furnished with Lincoln-era pieces, including the famous Lincoln bed, a massive rosewood bed that Mary Todd Lincoln purchased in 1861. Lincoln himself probably never slept in it, but the bed has become the centerpiece of the room that bears his name. This is an important distinction, because many of the ghost sightings are reported not in the room where Lincoln's
Starting point is 00:32:33 slept, but in the room where he worked, where he spent long, agonizing nights pouring over casualty reports and military dispatches, where he wrestled with the decision to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, where he signed death warrants and commuted sentences, where he bore the weight of 600,000 dead Americans on his narrow shoulders. If psychic residue is a real thing, if trauma and emotion can somehow imprint themselves on a physical space, then this is the room where you'd expect to find it. But let's step back for a moment and talk about what's really going on here. Because the story of Lincoln's ghost isn't just a ghost story. It's a story about grief, about trauma, and about the way Americans have always dealt with death. The
Starting point is 00:33:20 spiritualism movement that Mary Todd Lincoln embraced didn't arise in a vacuum. It emerged from a culture that was undergoing a profound transformation in its relationship with death. In the early 19th century, death was intimate. People died at home surrounded by family. Bodies were washed and dressed by loved ones. Wakes were held in the parlor. Children grew up seeing dead bodies as a normal part of life. Death was close, familiar, and in a strange way, manageable. The Civil War changed all of that. For the first time in American history, death became industrialized. Men died by the thousands in a single afternoon. Their bodies left. left to rot on fields miles from home.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Families received telegrams instead of being present at the bedside. Bodies were sometimes unrecoverable, or so badly damaged they couldn't be identified. The intimacy of death was replaced by its anonymity, and the nation reeled. Spiritualism was, in many ways, a response to this crisis. It was an attempt to restore the connection that industrialized death had severed. If you couldn't be with your son when he died at Gettysburg, at least you could talk to him afterward. If you never got to say goodbye, at least a medium could relay the message. It was, at its heart, an act of desperate love dressed up as religion.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And it wasn't just the scale of death that was new. It was the way people had to deal with it. Before the Civil War, mourning in America was a private family affair. After the war, it became a national obsession. The rituals of Victorian mourning, which had been developing for decades, reached their full elaborate flowering in the 1860s. Families wore black for prescribed periods, sometimes years. Morning jewelry, often made from the hair of the deceased, became ubiquitous. Memorial photographs, including the deeply unsettling practice of photographing the dead, known as post-mortem photography, were common.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Parents posed their dead children in lifelike positions, sometimes propping them up with hidden stands, sometimes placing them in scenes with living siblings, and had formal portraits taken. These photographs were treasured keepsakes, sometimes the only image a family had of a child who died before the age of photography could capture them in life. The morning industry itself became big business. Specialized shops sold nothing but morning attire. Etiquette books dedicated entire chapters to the proper protocols of grief.
Starting point is 00:35:57 There were rules about what you could wear, where you could go, who you could see, and how long each phase of mourning should last. For wealthy women, the morning wardrobe alone could cost a small fortune, as entire wardrobes had to be replaced with black versions. And at the center of all this ritualized grief sat the medium, offering something that no amount of black crape or memorial jewelry could provide, a direct line to the dead. And the White House during the Lincoln years was ground-zoned,
Starting point is 00:36:27 zero for all of it. The grief of a nation concentrated in a single building, in a single family, in a single man who carried it all, and then was violently publicly murdered. Is it any wonder people see his ghost? Now, I want to be clear about something. I'm not here to tell you that ghosts are real. I'm also not here to tell you they aren't. What I will tell you is that the sheer volume and consistency of Lincoln Ghost reports spanning over 150 years involving dozens of witnesses, of impeccable credibility is genuinely unusual. Most haunting claims can be easily dismissed. They come from a single source,
Starting point is 00:37:06 or the witnesses are unreliable, or the details are vague and contradictory. The Lincoln haunting doesn't fit that pattern. The reports come from multiple independent sources across multiple decades. The descriptions are remarkably consistent, a tall, gaunt figure often seen near the fireplace or looking out windows,
Starting point is 00:37:26 sometimes heard pacing the hallway. And the witnesses include some of the most powerful and credible people on the planet. There are, of course, rational explanations. The White House is old, and old buildings make strange sounds. The power of suggestion is real. If you're sleeping in a room called the Lincoln bedroom, you're primed to see Lincoln. The building's history creates an atmosphere of expectation that could easily shape ambiguous sensory experiences into ghost sightings.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And several of the most famous accounts, including Churchill's, involve witnesses who'd been drinking or were exhausted or both. But here's what I keep coming back to. The White House has housed 46 presidents. Many of them died in office or shortly after leaving. Several were assassinated. The building has seen its share of tragedy and suffering. And yet, no other presidential ghost has been reported with anything close to the frequency or consistency of Lincoln's. If suggestion and expectation were the primary drivers, you'd expect a more diverse cast of ghosts.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You'd expect people to see whatever president they were primed to see. Instead, it's Lincoln. Always Lincoln. There are a few other White House ghosts worth mentioning, if only to give context. The ghost of Abigail Adams has allegedly been seen in the East Room, where she used to hang her laundry. Andrew Jackson's ghost has reportedly been heard laughing raucously in the Rose Roast. room. And the ghost of a British soldier from the 1814 burning of the White House has supposedly been spotted on the grounds, still carrying his torch. Dolly Madison's ghost was allegedly
Starting point is 00:39:06 so possessive of the Rose Garden she'd planted that when Edith Wilson ordered the garden dug up during the Wilson administration, the gardeners refused, claiming Dolly's ghost had appeared and told them not to. But none of these reports come close to matching the Lincoln haunting in either volume or credibility. There's something about Lincoln that persists in that building in a way that nothing else does. And maybe that's the real story here. Maybe the ghost of Abraham Lincoln isn't just a supernatural phenomenon. Maybe it's a metaphor. Lincoln represents something in the American psyche that we can't let go of, the unfinished business of the Civil War, the unfulfilled promise of emancipation, the trauma of a nation that tore itself apart and never fully
Starting point is 00:39:51 healed. We keep seeing Lincoln's ghosts because, in a very real sense, we're still haunted by what he lived through and what he died for. The questions he grappled with about race, about justice, about the soul of the nation, are still unanswered, and as long as they remain unanswered, his ghost will keep walking those halls, or maybe the building's just haunted. Sometimes a ghost is just a ghost. Either way, if you ever find yourself invited to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom, you might want to leave the light on. Now let's talk about a different kind of White House mystery. One that doesn't involve spirits or seances, but poison, politics, and a dead president whose body was pulled from the ground 141 years after they buried him. This is the story of Zachary Taylor, and it's one of the strangest presidential death stories you've never heard.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Zachary Taylor was not the kind of man you'd expect to become president. He was a career military officer, a professional soldier who'd spent nearly his entire adult life on the frontier, fighting wars that most Americans barely paid attention to. He'd never held political office before running for president. He'd never even voted. He was, by his own admission, barely interested in politics. But in 1848, the Whig Party needed a candidate, and Zachary Taylor was a bona fide, national hero. His military career was long and distinguished, if not exactly glamorous. He'd served in the
Starting point is 00:41:20 war of 1812, though he saw a limited action. He'd fought in the Black Hawk War of 1832. He'd spent years campaigning against the Seminole and the swamps of Florida, a brutal and thankless conflict that earned him his first taste of national recognition when he won the Battle of Lake Okeechobee in 1837. But it was the Mexican-American War that made him a house. household name. In 1846, Taylor was sent to the Rio Grande with a small army to enforce the United States disputed claim to Texas. When Mexican forces crossed the river and attacked his troops, it provided the pretext for war that President James K. Polk had been looking for. Taylor fought a series of battles, Palo Alto, Rosaca della Palma, Monterey, that captured the public imagination.
Starting point is 00:42:09 He was outnumbered in virtually every engagement, and he won them all. His men adored him. The press lionized him. And at the Battle of Buena Vista in February of 1847, Taylor cemented his legendary status by defeating a Mexican force that outnumbered his own by roughly four to one. Santa Ana himself led the Mexican army. Taylor beat him anyway. By the time the war ended, Taylor was the most popular man in America. The Whig Party, desperate for a winner after years of political frustration, nominated him almost by acclamation. His opponent Louis Cass of Michigan didn't stand a chance. Taylor won the election
Starting point is 00:42:49 of 1848 in a walk. They called him old rough and ready, and the nickname fit. Taylor was a stocky, plain-looking man who preferred to dress in civilian clothes rather than military uniforms, even in the field. He was unpretentious to the point of eccentricity. When he was informed by letter that he'd been nominated for president, he refused to accept the letter because the postage was due, and he didn't want to pay for unsolicited mail. The Whig Party had to send a second letter, postage paid, before Taylor even knew he'd been nominated. But beneath that folksy exterior was a complicated and increasingly controversial figure. Taylor was a southerner. He was born in Virginia and raised in Kentucky. He owned a large plantation in Louisiana and enslaved over a hundred people. By
Starting point is 00:43:38 every demographic marker he should have been a reliable ally of the pro-slavery South, and that's exactly what many southern politicians expected when they supported his candidacy. They were wrong. To understand why Taylor's presidency became so dangerous and why some people believe it got him killed, you've got to understand the political crisis that was consuming the country in 1849 and 1850. The central question was slavery, specifically, whether slavery would be allowed to expand into the vast territories the United States had just acquired through the Mexican-American War.
Starting point is 00:44:15 The war with Mexico, which ended in 1848, had been a smashing military success and a political nightmare. The United States had seized an enormous swath of territory, including present-day California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Colorado and Wyoming. And almost immediately the question arose, would slavery be permitted in these new territories? territories? This wasn't an abstract philosophical debate. It was an existential crisis. The balance of power between free states and slave states in the United States Senate was carefully maintained, and any disruption of that balance threatened to unravel the entire political system. Southern states saw the expansion of slavery into new territories as essential to their survival. If free states
Starting point is 00:45:03 came to outnumber slave states, the South would lose its ability to block anti-slavery legislation, legislation, and the institution they'd built their entire economy and society around would be doomed. Northern states, particularly those influenced by the growing abolitionist movement, were equally determined to prevent slavery's expansion. They saw the Mexican session as an opportunity to create a vast free territory that would eventually tip the balance of power decisively against slavery. Into this powder keg stepped Zachary Taylor, and almost immediately he lit a match. Despite being a solid,
Starting point is 00:45:38 slaveholder himself, Taylor took a position that shocked and enraged the South. He opposed the expansion of slavery into the new territories. Not because he was morally opposed to slavery, there's no evidence that he was, but because he believed it was politically destabilizing and a threat to the union. Taylor was, above all, a nationalist. He'd spent his career fighting for the United States of America, and he wasn't about to watch it tear itself apart over a political fight. Taylor's plan was straightforward and in hindsight remarkably bold. He wanted California and New Mexico to skip the territorial phase entirely and apply immediately for statehood.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Both would almost certainly enter the union as free states, which would permanently tip the balance of power in the Senate against the slaveholding South. Taylor was essentially proposing to end the expansion of slavery by executive fiat, daring the South to do something about it. The South's reaction was volcanic. Southern politicians were apoplectic. They'd supported Taylor because they thought he was one of them. They'd expected a fellow slaveholder to protect their interests.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Instead, they'd gotten a man who was threatening to destroy the very foundation of southern political power. Stay tuned for more disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. Senator Jefferson Davis of Mississippi, who would later become president of the Confederacy, was among the most vocal critics. Davis and Taylor had a complicated personal relationship. Davis was actually married to Taylor's daughter, who died of malaria just three months after the wedding, and the two men had been estranged for years before reconciling.
Starting point is 00:47:21 But the political disagreement drove them apart again, this time permanently. The anger went beyond rhetoric. There were open threats of secession. Southern newspapers published editorials calling Taylor a traitor to his race and his region. In February of 1850, Taylor reportedly told a group of subcommittee. Southern congressmen that if they attempted to secede, he would personally lead the army against them and hang any man caught in rebellion. He said he'd do it with as little hesitation as he'd hang deserters and spies in Mexico. Given Taylor's military reputation, nobody doubted he meant it. This was 10 years before the Civil War, and the country was already on the brink.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Into this crisis came the compromise of 1850, a package of legislation championed by the aging Senator Henry Clay of Kentucky, with critical support from Senator Daniel Webster of Massachusetts and Senator Stephen Douglas of Illinois. The compromise was designed to resolve the territorial crisis by giving something to everyone. California would enter the Union as a free state. The remaining territory would be organized without any federal restriction on slavery, leaving the decision to the settlers themselves. A stronger fugitive slave act would be passed, requiring northern states to return escape slaves. And the slave trade, though not slavery itself,
Starting point is 00:48:46 would be abolished in Washington, D.C. Taylor hated the compromise. He saw it as an unnecessary capitulation to southern threats. He believed his own plan, admitting California and New Mexico as free states without any concessions to the South was simpler, cleaner, and more principled. He made it known that he would veto the compromise
Starting point is 00:49:06 if it reached his desk. And this is where the story takes its disturbing and dark turn. On July 4, 1850, Washington, D.C. was sweltering. The temperature had been brutal for days, well over 100 degrees by some accounts. The Capitol was hosting a massive Independence Day celebration at the still-unfinished Washington monument, and President Taylor was the guest of honor. He sat through hours of speeches in the blazing sun, and at some point during the festivities, he consumed a large quantity of raw cherries and iced milk.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That evening, Taylor began to feel ill, stomach cramps, nausea. By the next day, he was vomiting violently and suffering from severe diarrhea. His doctors were called. They diagnosed him with acute gastroenteritis, possibly choleroborbus, a catch-all term used in the 19th century for severe gastrointestinal illness. The treatments they administered were by modern standards, horrifying. They dosed him with Ipochak to induce further vomiting. They gave him Kalamil, a mercury-based compound that was a standard treatment of the era, but is now known to be
Starting point is 00:50:16 toxic. They may have bled him, another common practice of the time. In short, they probably made things considerably worse. Taylor's condition deteriorated rapidly over the next four days. By July 8, it was clear he was dying. On July 9, 1850, just five days. days after the 4th of July celebration, Zachary Taylor was dead. He was 65 years old and had been president for exactly 16 months and five days. His last words, according to those present, were, I am about to die. I expect the summons very soon. I have tried to discharge all my official duties faithfully. I regret nothing, but I'm sorry that I'm about to leave my friends. And with that, old rough and ready was gone. His vice president, Miller,
Starting point is 00:51:05 Philmore was sworn in immediately. And here's the thing that makes the conspiracy theorists sit up and take notice. Fillmore was everything Taylor was not. Where Taylor had opposed the compromise of 1850, Fillmore supported it. Where Taylor had threatened to veto it, Philmore signed it into law. Where Taylor had been prepared to use military force against southern secession, Fillmore took a conciliatory approach. In short, Taylor's death was the best thing.
Starting point is 00:51:35 that could have happened for the pro-slavery forces who were desperate to see the compromise passed. Fillmore didn't just sign the compromise. He enthusiastically enforced its most controversial provision, the Fugitive Slave Act, which required northern states to cooperate in the capture and return of escaped slaves. Taylor had been lukewarm at best about the Fugitive Slave Act. Fillmore turned it into the centerpiece of his domestic policy. Federal marshals were dispatched across the north to hunt down escape slaves. Northern citizens who refused to assist in the capture were subject to heavy fines and imprisonment. The act was so aggressive, so fundamentally offensive to northern sensibilities, that it actually radicalized the abolitionist movement
Starting point is 00:52:21 and helped push the country toward the very civil war that the compromise was supposed to prevent. The irony is staggering. The compromise of 1850, which was supposed to save the Union, contained within the seeds of the union's destruction. And it only became law because Zachary Taylor died five days after eating some cherries. The timing was at minimum, extremely convenient. Now, the official story has always been that Taylor died of natural causes. His doctors attributed his death to acute gastroenteritis, probably brought on by the combination of cherries and iced milk, consumed in extreme heat. This explanation is plausible. Colora and other gastrointestinal diseases were common in Washington during the summer months. The city's sanitation was abysmal. The water supply, as we discussed earlier
Starting point is 00:53:12 with Willie Lincoln, was essentially contaminated sewage. People got sick and died of stomach ailments all the time. But from the moment Taylor died, there were whispers, the timing, the political motive, the sudden devastating illness that struck down a man who, while not young, had been in reasonably good health. The fact that his death immediately and directly benefited the political faction that had the most to gain from his removal. It all seemed a little too neat. The conspiracy theory, at its most basic, goes like this. Zachary Taylor was poisoned with arsenic by pro-slavery conspirators who needed him dead in order to pass the compromise of 1850 and protect the institution of slavery. The poison was administered through the cherries or the milk,
Starting point is 00:54:00 or possibly both, at the 4th of July celebration. The conspirators knew that Taylor's death would be attributed to natural causes. Colora was common enough that no one would think twice, and that Fillmore would be a far more pliable president. It's a theory that has a certain seductive logic to it, but is it true? For nearly 140 years, there was no way to answer that question definitively. Taylor was dead and buried, and the medical knowledge of his era was insufficient to distinguish between arsenic poisoning and acute gastroenteritis. The symptoms are, in many cases, nearly identical. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, dehydration, and ultimately organ failure. Arsenic in particular was a notorious murder weapon in the 19th century,
Starting point is 00:54:49 so notorious that it was sometimes called inheritance powder, because of its frequent use by impatient heirs. It was readily available sold in pharmacies and general stores as a rat poison and a treatment for various ailments. It was odorless and nearly tasteless in small quantities. And the symptoms it produced, severe gastrointestinal distress, mimicked dozens of common illnesses. Before the development of reliable chemical tests, arsenic poisoning was virtually undetectable. It was the perfect murder weapon. And in Washington, D.C., in 1850, there were plenty of people who had both the means and the motive to use it. The theory might have remained in the realm of idle speculation forever, if not for a remarkable
Starting point is 00:55:34 woman named Clara Rising. Clara Rising was a professor of humanities at the University of Florida. In the late 1980s, she became fascinated by the Taylor conspiracy theory while researching a novel about his presidency. Rising was an unlikely detective. She wasn't a forensic scientist. or a professional historian. She was an English professor who wrote fiction.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But she had something that many professional academics lacked, a willingness to ask uncomfortable questions and the tenacity to pursue them to their logical conclusion. The more she dug into the historical record, the more suspicious she became. She studied the symptoms described in contemporary accounts of Taylor's illness and concluded that they were more consistent with arsenic poisoning than with simple gastroenteritis.
Starting point is 00:56:23 The timeline was particularly troubling. Taylor's rapid decline from apparent health to death in just five days was more characteristic of acute poisoning than of a typical gastrointestinal infection, even a severe one. She noted that arsenic, administered in a single large dose, could produce exactly the pattern of symptoms Taylor exhibited. Initial gastrointestinal distress, followed by apparent stabilization, followed by sudden and catastrophic organ failure.
Starting point is 00:56:52 She also examined the political landscape of 1850 with fresh eyes and found ample motive. She mapped out the network of pro-slavery politicians who stood to benefit from Taylor's death, documented the threats that had been made against him, and traced the connections between the Southern Ultras and the individuals who'd had access to the president on July 4th. She couldn't prove anything, of course. A hundred and forty years of distance makes proof virtually impossible. But she built a circumstantial. case that was, at the very least, provocative.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And she decided that the only way to resolve the question was to test Taylor's remains. This was, to put it mildly, a bold proposal. No president's body had ever been exhumed for forensic testing. The legal and political obstacles were enormous. She'd need permission from Taylor's living descendants, cooperation from the state of Kentucky where Taylor was buried, and the involvement of qualified forensic scientists who were willing to be able to, to participate in what would inevitably be a media circus. Remarkably, Rising got all of it.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Taylor's closest living descendant, a man named Dabney Taylor, gave his permission. The state of Kentucky agreed to allow the exhumation, and the forensic analysis would be conducted by Dr. William Maples of the University of Florida, one of the most respected forensic anthropologists in the country, along with the Kentucky State Medical Examiner's Office. On June 17, 19th, 19th, The body of Zachary Taylor was exhumed from its crypt at the Zachary Taylor National Cemetery in Louisville, Kentucky. It had been 141 years since anyone had seen him. The media circus that Rising had anticipated materialized in full. Television crews from every major network set up outside the cemetery.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Reporters from around the world descended on Louisville. The exhumation of a president was unprecedented and the story had all. the elements the press could ask for. Murder, conspiracy, a dramatic forensic investigation, and the literal unearthing of a long-buried secret. The exhumation was conducted with great care and solemnity. Taylor's remains were in a sealed lead coffin inside a marble sarcophagus, and when the coffin was opened, investigators found the remains remarkably well-preserved. The coffin had created an airtight environment that had significantly slowed decomposition. Taylor's skeleton was intact, and there was still sufficient tissue, particularly in the bones, hair, and fingernails, to conduct
Starting point is 00:59:29 meaningful chemical analysis. Dr. Maples, the forensic anthropologist, was impressed by the condition of the remains. He later wrote about the experience in his book, Dead Men Do Tell Tales, describing the moment the coffin was opened with a mixture of professional detachment and genuine awe. Here was a man who'd fought America's wars, led its armies, and occupied its highest office, lying in a lead box, still wearing the remnants of his burial clothes, still holding secrets that 141 years underground hadn't fully buried. The samples were collected, hair, fingernails, and bone fragments, and sent to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, one of the most sophisticated analytical facilities in the
Starting point is 01:00:14 world. There, scientists used a technique called Neckerynizabeth. neutron activation analysis to measure the levels of arsenic and Taylor's remains. This technique works by bombarding samples with neutrons, which causes the elements in the sample to become temporarily radioactive. Each element emits a characteristic pattern of gamma rays when it decays, allowing scientists to identify and quantify even trace amounts of individual elements with extraordinary precision.
Starting point is 01:00:44 The results came back several weeks later, and they were, depending on your perspective, either a definitive answer or a profound disappointment. The analysis found that Taylor's remains contained arsenic, but at levels hundreds of times below what would be expected in a case of arsenic poisoning. The arsenic levels were consistent with normal environmental exposure, the kind of background arsenic that every human body accumulates from food, water, and air over a lifetime. There was no evidence of the massive arsenic concentrations that would indicate a lethal dose.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Dr. Maples and the state medical examiner concluded that there was no evidence that Zachary Taylor had been poisoned. The official cause of death, acute gastroenteritis, was upheld. Clara Rising was disappointed but gracious. She accepted the results while noting that the test couldn't entirely rule out certain types of poisoning. Some poisons, particularly organic poisons, wouldn't leave detectable traces after 141 years. Stay tuned for more disturbing history.
Starting point is 01:01:50 We'll be back after these messages. And there was always the possibility that Taylor had been poisoned with something other than arsenic, something the tests weren't designed to detect. But for most historians and scientists, the case was closed. Taylor died of natural causes.
Starting point is 01:02:10 End of story. Except it's not quite the end, because the story is more complicated than a simple yes or no toxicology result. Here's the thing about the Taylor Poisoned, theory that even skeptics have to acknowledge. Even if the arsenic test came back negative, the political motive for murder was absolutely real. The forces aligned against Taylor in 1850 were powerful, desperate, and not particularly scrupulous. The pro-slavery faction in Congress
Starting point is 01:02:38 included men who would, within a decade, lead an armed rebellion against the United States government. These weren't people who drew the line at assassination. And there are aspects of Taylor's illness and death that remain genuinely puzzling, even if arsenic has been ruled out. First, there's the question of the doctors. Taylor's medical care was provided by several physicians, but the primary doctor was a man named Alexander S. Wetherspoon. The treatment's Wetherspoon and his colleagues administered, the Kalamel, the Ipak, the blistering agents, were standard for the era but are now known to have been actively harmful. Calamel in particular is mercury chloride, and in the doses typically administered in the 19th century, it could cause
Starting point is 01:03:24 mercury poisoning with symptoms that overlapped significantly with Taylor's illness. There's a legitimate argument to be made that Taylor's doctors killed him, not through malice, but through incompetence, by dosing a man with severe gastrointestinal distress with toxic compounds that made his condition dramatically worse. This was, sadly, not unusual for the era. Medical practice in in 1850 was to be blunt, frequently lethal. The germ theory of disease hadn't been established. Doctors didn't wash their hands between patients. The pharmacopoeia was dominated by compounds, mercury, arsenic, and opium among them,
Starting point is 01:04:03 that were as likely to kill as to cure. It's entirely possible that Taylor would have survived his illness if his doctors had simply left him alone. Then there's the question of what actually caused the initial illness. The cherries and milk story has become. the standard explanation, but it's never been entirely convincing. Eating raw cherries and drinking cold milk, while not exactly a health food combination, is not normally lethal. Food poisoning is a possibility, but the speed and severity of Taylor's decline were unusually dramatic. He went from
Starting point is 01:04:37 apparently healthy to dead in five days, which is a rapid progression even for severe cholera. Some modern physicians who've reviewed the historical accounts have suggested that Taylor may have suffered from a particularly virulent form of salmonella or e-coli infection, possibly from contaminated water rather than from the cherries. Others have suggested a ruptured appendix or mesenteric vein thrombosis, conditions that could produce similar symptoms and rapid decline. The honest truth is that we don't know what killed Zachary Taylor, and we probably never will. The arsenic test eliminated one possibility, but it didn't provide a definitive alternative. There's a also the broader context of suspicious presidential deaths in the 19th century.
Starting point is 01:05:23 This is where things get really interesting and where the Taylor case connects to a larger pattern that's worth examining. William Henry Harrison, who preceded Taylor as president by just one administration, died after only 31 days in office. The official cause was pneumonia, supposedly contracted from giving a lengthy inaugural address in cold, wet weather without a coat. But modern medical analysis has cast down out on this explanation. Harrison's symptoms, including severe gastrointestinal distress, are not typical of pneumonia. Some researchers have suggested that Harrison, like Taylor, may have died from contaminated water, or possibly from a combination of his doctor's treatments
Starting point is 01:06:04 and an underlying infection. James K. Polk, who served between Harrison's successor and Taylor, died just three months after leaving office at the age of 53. He'd been in poor health during his presidency, but his rapid decline after leaving office has struck some historians as suspicious. And then there's Taylor himself, dead at 65 after just 16 months. Three of the four presidents who served between 1841 and 1850 died either in office or immediately after leaving it. All were relatively young. All died of ailments that were at least partially attributable to the unhealthy conditions of life in Washington, D.C. And while none of these deaths have been definitively attributed to foul play, the pattern is striking enough to make you wonder.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Washington in the mid-19th century was, to put it plainly, a death trap. The city was built on a malarial swamp. The water supply was contaminated. The sewage system was virtually non-existent. The White House itself, as we've discussed, drew its water from the same Potomac River that served as the city's open sewer. Living and working in the building was a genuine health hazard and the constant stream of visitors, petitioners, and office seekers who crowded into the executive mansion brought with them every communicable disease imaginable. It's entirely possible that Zachary Taylor was killed not by a conspiracy, but by his address. The White House in 1850 was a building that was slowly poisoning everyone who lived in it.
Starting point is 01:07:38 The fact that we focused so intensely on the possibility of intentional poisoning may have caused us to overlook the much more prosaic, but equally disturbing reality that the president of the United States was living in a building that was literally making people sick and killing them. But here's why the conspiracy theory endures, and why I think it's worth taking seriously even in light of the negative arsenic test. The consequences of Taylor's death were enormous. If Taylor had lived, the compromise of 1850 would almost certainly have been vetoed. Without the compromise, the crisis over slavery in the territories would have come to a head a full decade earlier than it actually did. Taylor was prepared to use military force to prevent secession. He had the
Starting point is 01:08:24 credibility and the temperament to do it. He'd spent his entire career fighting and winning wars, and he wasn't afraid of the South's threats. Had Taylor lived and vetoed the compromise, the Civil War might have started in 1850 instead of 1861. And if it had, the outcome might have been very different. The Confederacy of 1850 would have been less prepared, less organized, and less industrialized than the Confederacy of 1861. The 11 years between Taylor's death and the firing on Fort Sumter gave the South time to prepare for the war that was coming. Time to build arsenals, train officers, and develop the logistics needed to sustain a multi-year conflict. Alternatively, if Taylor had used the threat of military force successfully, if the South had backed down
Starting point is 01:09:11 in the face of a president who clearly meant business. The expansion of slavery might have been halted a decade early. The entire trajectory of American history could have been altered. Instead, Taylor died. Fillmore signed the compromise. The can was kicked down the road for another decade, and when the war finally came, it was the bloodiest conflict in American history. It's worth pausing here to consider the specific individuals who had the most to gain from Taylor's death,
Starting point is 01:09:39 because the conspiracy theory doesn't just posit a vague southern plot. It points to specific actors and specific mechanisms. The most commonly cited suspect, if we're going to use that word, is a group of pro-slavery southern politicians known informally as the Southern Ultras. These were the hardliners, the men who saw any compromise on slavery as a betrayal, and who were already in 1850, talking seriously about secession. men like Robert Barnwell Rett of South Carolina, William Lowndes Yancey of Alabama,
Starting point is 01:10:14 and John C. Calhoun of South Carolina, who died in March of 1850, just months before Taylor, after decades as the foremost intellectual defender of slavery in American politics. These men had networks, resources, and absolutely no moral compunction about doing whatever was necessary to protect the institution of slavery. Within a decade, many of them would be leading an armed rebellion. The idea that they'd stop short of poisoning a president who threatened their entire way of life isn't as reassuring as you might think. Then there's the question of opportunity.
Starting point is 01:10:50 The Fourth of July celebration where Taylor fell ill was a massive public event. Hundreds, possibly thousands of people were present. Food and drink were served in an open, informal setting. If someone wanted to slip something into Taylor's food or drink, the occasion provided ample opportunity. The cherries and milk that Taylor consumed could have been tampered with by virtually anyone with access to the serving area. There's also the curious matter of Taylor's personal servant, a man whose identity and loyalties have never been fully explored by historians. In the 19th century, presidents didn't have the elaborate security details they have today.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Their food was prepared by household staff, served by personal attendance, and consumed without any of the precautions that modern leaders take for granted. The President of the United States was in many ways as vulnerable to poisoning as any ordinary citizen, perhaps more so, because the number of people who had both access and motive was considerably larger. And let's talk about arsenic specifically for a moment, because it deserves more attention. In the 19th century, arsenic was everywhere. It was used in wallpaper, giving a popular green pigment its vivid color. It was used in cosmetics. It was used in medicines.
Starting point is 01:12:08 It was used as a pesticide, and it was used with alarming frequency as a murder weapon. The phrase inheritance powder wasn't a joke. Between 1800 and 1900, arsenic was the weapon of choice for domestic poisoners across Europe and America. It was cheap, readily available, and produced symptoms. The violent gastric distress, the cramping, the vomiting, the diarrhea that were virtually indistinguishable
Starting point is 01:12:35 from a dozen common ailments. The famous Marsh test, developed by British chemist James Marsh in 1836, could detect arsenic and body fluids, but it wasn't widely used in America in 1850, and Taylor's doctors had no reason to test for poison. They were treating what they believed was a routine, if severe, gastrointestinal illness. By the time anyone thought to question the cause of death, the body was in the ground and the political landscape had shifted irreversibly. Was Zachary Taylor murdered? Probably not. The forensic evidence says no, and forensic evidence is hard to argue with. But was his death
Starting point is 01:13:15 politically convenient, politically consequential, and surrounded by circumstances that invite suspicion? Absolutely. And in the end, whether Taylor was murdered or merely unlucky, the result was the same. A president who might have altered the course of American history was removed for from the stage at precisely the moment when his presence was most needed. There's a final irony worth noting. Zachary Taylor, the slaveholder who tried to stop slavery's expansion, is buried in Louisville, Kentucky, in a national cemetery that bears his name. His grave is modest by presidential standards, a simple limestone crypt in a small park.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Most Americans couldn't tell you where he's buried, or even who he was. He's one of those presidents who've been swallowed by history, overshadowed by the giants who came before and after him. But for five extraordinary days in July of 1850, this obscure, underestimated man held the future of the nation in his hands. And then he died, and the future changed. His body was pulled from that crypt in 1991, subjected to the indignity of having his bones scraped and his tissue sampled,
Starting point is 01:14:27 and then returned to the earth with a verdict of natural causes. The conspiracy theorist were unscited. satisfied, the historians moved on. And Zachary Taylor went back to being forgotten. But the questions linger. They always do. Because the thing about presidential mysteries is that they're never really just about one person. They're about the country that created them, the system that elevated them, and the forces that, one way or another, brought them down. And maybe that's the thread that ties these two stories together. Lincoln and Taylor, the ghost and the victim. They're both stories about how the weight of the presidency can destroy the men who hold it.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Taylor was destroyed in 16 months. Lincoln held on for four years before the bullet came. But in both cases, the office consumed them. The political forces swirling around them were so powerful, so relentless, so willing to do whatever was necessary to achieve their ends, that no individual, no matter how strong or how principled, could withstand them indefinitely. The White House is supposed to be a symbol of democratic power, of the people's will made manifest in stone and marble.
Starting point is 01:15:38 But these stories reveal something darker underneath that symbol. They reveal a building that's been the site of seances and suspicious deaths, of haunted hallways and contaminated water, of men who dreamed of their own murders and men who may have been poisoned by their allies. It's a house built on compromises, many of them bloody, and the ghosts of those compromises, literal and figurative, have never fully departed. So there you have it. Two stories from the White House, one about a ghost who won't leave, and one about a death that came too soon. Abraham Lincoln, the most psychically sensitive president in American history, attended seances to reach his dead son, dreamed of his own assassination, and then was murdered in a way that traumatized the nation
Starting point is 01:16:24 so profoundly that his spirit, or whatever you want to call it, has reportedly been seen in the building where he suffered for over 150 years. His ghost, if it is a ghost, is the embodiment of unfinished business, the lingering residue of a war that killed three quarters of a million people, and a presidency that ended in blood. Zachary Taylor, the rough-hewn soldier who never wanted to be president, took office at the most dangerous moment in American history and made a decision that put him on a collision course
Starting point is 01:16:55 with the most powerful political faction in the country. 16 months later, he was dead, and the course of history shifted in exactly the direction his enemies wanted. The forensic evidence says he wasn't murdered. The circumstantial evidence says at the very least that someone got very, very lucky. Both stories are about the White House, a building that has absorbed more ambition, more grief, more violence, and more history than any other structure in America. A building where the living and the dead seem to coexist in uncomfortable proximity. A building were the decisions that shaped the nation were made by men who were themselves shaped by forces they couldn't always control. Forces of grief, of duty, of political necessity. And occasionally, if the stories are to be believed of something beyond the natural world.
Starting point is 01:17:45 The next time you see a photograph of the White House, gleaming white in the Washington Sun, looking serene and stately and utterly in control, remember what's underneath that surface. Remember the contaminated water that killed a president's son and may have killed a president himself. Remember the seances conducted in the upstairs rooms. Remember the ghost that walks the halls at night, tall and gaunt and still carrying the weight of a nation's sins. Remember, the cherries in the milk and the man who died five days later while the men who needed him did celebrated their good fortune. The White House is the most famous house in the world. It's also, by any reasonable measure, one of the most disturbing.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And that, folks, is your history for tonight. Two presidents, one who won't leave the building, and one who left it far too soon. One whose spirit haunts the halls, and one whose death haunts the historical record. Both of them buried one way or another under layers of myth, politics, grief, and unanswered questions. The White House stands today at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, gleaming and, and stately, its lawns manicured, its rooms pristine, its public face as composed and controlled as any building on earth. But if these walls could talk, if the stories we've explored tonight are even half true, they'd have tales to tell that would keep you up at night. They've seen a grief-stricken
Starting point is 01:19:14 president attend seances in the upstairs parlors. They've watched a war hero die in agony, while the men who needed him dead waited for the news. They've heard the footsteps of a ghost that walks the second floor hallway, still carrying the burden of a nation's original sin. History, the real kind, the kind that doesn't make it into the textbooks, is always stranger and darker than we'd like to believe. And nowhere is that more true than inside the most famous house in the world. Sleep well, everybody.

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