Disturbing History - The Rise and Ruin of the FLDS Church

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

He was the mouthpiece of God to ten thousand followers. To the FBI, he was a face on the Ten Most Wanted list. And to a Nevada state trooper working a dark stretch of Interstate Fifteen, he was just a... nervous man in a red Escalade with a bad paper tag and a pulse he couldn't hide.This week I'm taking you inside the rise and ruin of the FLDS church, from its roots in the polygamy crisis of the eighteen hundreds to the isolated fortress town of Short Creek, where one man came to control every marriage, every home, and every family on both sides of a state line. I'll walk you through the botched 1953 raid that bought the church fifty years of immunity, the doctrine of one-man rule that loaded the gun, and the accountant's son who picked it up.Warren Jeffs banned laughter, expelled hundreds of teenage boys into the desert, married girls as young as twelve, and recorded all of it, because a man who believes his every act is scripture archives his crimes as revelation. Then a fourteen-year-old bride named Elissa Wall grew up, walked into a courtroom, and started tearing the whole empire down.But this story doesn't end with a life sentence in 2011. Warren Jeffs is still issuing revelations from a Texas prison cell, his followers are still scattered across hidden compounds, and as of this recording, two Idaho teenagers who vanished into that network last summer are still missing.This was never a story about religion. It's a story about power, about what happens when nobody is willing to look, and about the survivors who finally made the world see.Everything in this episode comes from court records, sworn testimony, and documented reporting. The FLDS is not the mainstream LDS church, which abandoned polygamy over a century ago and has condemned this group repeatedly.Have a forgotten historical mystery, disturbing event, unsolved crime, or hidden conspiracy you think deserves investigation?Send your suggestions to brian@paranormalworldproductions.com.Disturbing History is a dark history podcast exploring unsolved mysteries, secret societies, historical conspiracies, lost civilizations, and the shadowy stories buried beneath the surface of the past.Follow the show and enable automatic downloads so you never miss a deep dive into history’s most unsettling secrets.Because sometimes the truth is darker than fiction.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Some stories were never meant to be told. Others were buried on purpose. This podcast digs them all up. Disturbing history peels back the layers of the past to uncover the strange, the sinister, and the stories that were never supposed to survive. From shadowy presidential secrets to government experiments that sound more like fiction than fact, this is history they hoped you'd forget. I'm Brian, investigator, author, and your guide through the dark corner.
Starting point is 00:00:31 of our collective memory. Each week I'll narrate some of the most chilling and little-known tales from history that will make you question everything you thought you knew. And here's the twist. Sometimes the history is disturbing to us. And sometimes, we have to disturb history itself,
Starting point is 00:00:48 just to get to the truth. If you like your facts with the side of fear, if you're not afraid to pull at threads, others leave alone. You're in the right place. History isn't just written by the victors. victors. Sometimes it's rewritten by the disturbed. On the night of August 28, 2006, a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper named Eddie Dutchover was working Interstate 15 just north of Las Vegas when a
Starting point is 00:01:23 red Cadillac escalade rolled past him with a temporary plate he couldn't read. That's it. That's the whole reason for the stop. A paper tag that wasn't displayed properly. As a former cop, I can tell you that most of the biggest arrests in American history started exactly this way. Not with a SWAT team, not with a wiretap. With a board traffic cop and a violation so minor, most drivers would have gotten a warning and a wave. Dutchover lit him up. The escalade pulled over, three people inside, a man driving, another man in the passenger seat, a woman in the back. The man in the passenger seat was tall and thin, and when the trooper asked him questions, the guy wouldn't make eye contact. His carotid artery was pounding so hard
Starting point is 00:02:09 the trooper could see it moving in his neck. Every cop knows that look. Your body betrays you before your mouth does. For identification, the tall man offered a contact lens receipt from Florida bearing the name John Findlay. The trooper didn't buy it. He called for backup, and when troopers searched the vehicle,
Starting point is 00:02:28 they found wigs, sunglasses, multiple cell phones, laptop computers, and somewhere in the neighborhood of 55,000, thousand dollars in cash. Some of it stuffed into envelopes. The tall man's real name was Warren Steed Jeffs. He was 50 years old. He was the absolute ruler of a church with roughly 10,000 members, and he had spent more than a year on the run, the last few months of it on the FBI's 10 most wanted list, sharing space with cartel bosses and murderers. The federal government had put
Starting point is 00:03:00 $100,000 on his head. His crime, in the plainest possible language, was arranging marriages between grown men and little girls, performing the ceremonies himself, telling children as young as 12 that submitting to a middle-aged husband was the will of God, and that resisting meant losing their salvation and their family in one stroke. To his followers, Warren Jeff's was the mouthpiece of the Almighty, the one man on earth who could speak for heaven. To the FBI, he was a photograph on the ten most wanted list, And to a Nevada state trooper on a dark stretch of interstate, he was just a nervous guy with a bad paper tag and a pulse he couldn't hide. Tonight, we're going to trace how it came to that, how a movement born from genuine religious conviction in the 1800s curdled over four generations into one of the most controlling and destructive organizations in American history.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We're going to talk about a town on the Utah and Arizona border, where one man decided who married whom, who kept their children, and who got to. thrown into the desert. We're going to talk about a raid in 1953 that backfired so badly it bought the church 50 years of immunity. And we're going to talk about the fact that this story is not over. Warren Jeffs is still issuing revelations from a Texas prison cell right now, and children are still disappearing because of it. I need to lay some ground rules because this episode walks through a minefield, and I intend to walk through it honestly. First, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the FLDS, is not the Mormon Church. It is not the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints headquartered in Salt Lake City,
Starting point is 00:04:43 the one with the missionaries and the temples and the 17 million members worldwide. The mainstream church abandoned polygamy more than a century ago, and excommunicates anyone caught practicing it. They have disavowed the FLDS repeatedly, forcefully, and in writing. If you're a member of the mainstream LDS Church listening to this, nothing in this episode is aimed at you or your faith. The two organizations share a historical route and nothing else. I'm going to keep that wall standing all night,
Starting point is 00:05:15 and I'd ask you to keep it standing too. Second, anyone who listens to this show knows where I stand personally. I don't believe in prophets, and I don't believe God whispers marriage assignments into anyone's ear. But I've also spent enough years around people of faith. Good people, decent people, to know that belief itself is not the villain of this story. Most of the victims you'll hear about tonight were believers, devout ones. Their faith was the thing that got weaponized against them.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Mocking that faith would mean mocking them. And I simply won't do it. Third, and this is the cop in me talking. Everything in this episode comes from court records, sworn testimony, government investigations and journalism that has survived legal scrutiny. When I tell you a man was convicted of something, there's a verdict behind it. When I tell you what a witness said, she said it under oath or on the record. I'm not in the speculation business tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:15 The documented facts are more than enough. So this is not a story about religion. This is a story about power. About what happens when one man holds absolute authority over marriage, property, family, and eternity. And nobody, not the county, not the state, not the federal government, is willing to look at what he's doing with it. For 50 years, almost nobody looked. Let's go back to the beginning and find out why. To understand the FLDS, you have to understand the crisis it was born from.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And that means going back to the 1840s. Joseph Smith founded the Latter-day Saint movement in New York in 1830, and within a few years, he began privately teaching and practicing what he called plural marriage. Celestial marriage. The doctrine held that taking multiple wives, under the right priesthood authority, was not just permitted, but commanded,
Starting point is 00:07:09 a restoration of the way Abraham and Jacob had lived in the Old Testament. Smith dictated the revelation formally in 1843, though he'd been living it quietly for years before that. It was explosive even inside his own movement. His first wife Emma fought it. close associates left over it. When a dissident newspaper in Navu, Illinois,
Starting point is 00:07:31 printed accusations about the practice in 1844, Smith ordered the press destroyed, which set off the chain of events that put him in the Carthage jail, where a mob shot him to death that June. Brigham Young took over the largest branch of the movement and led the Exodus west to the Great Salt Lake Valley. Out there a thousand miles from anybody, the church stopped whispering.
Starting point is 00:07:55 In 1852, the practice of plural marriage was announced publicly and openly defended as doctrine. The United States government spent the next four decades trying to crush it. Congress passed the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act in 1862. Abraham Lincoln signed it in the middle of the Civil War, which tells you how seriously Washington took the issue. In 1879, the Supreme Court ruled on the case of George Reynolds, Brigham Young's own secretary, who had volunteered as a test defendant. The court's ruling in Reynolds v. United States became one of the foundation stones of American religion law, and it drew a line we still use today. You can believe anything you want.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You cannot do anything you want. Belief is protected absolutely. Practice is not. That distinction matters, because this entire episode lives inside it. The pressure kept ratcheting up. The Edmonds Act of 1882 made unlawful cohabitation a crime, stripped polygamists of the vote, and barred them from juries and public office. Federal Marshals swept through Utah Territory hunting cohabitation cases, and church leaders went underground, hiding in safe houses moving by night. Over a thousand men went to prison. Then came the Edmonds Tucker Act of 1887, and this one went for the throat.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It dissolved the church as a legal corporation, and began seizing its property, not finding it, confiscating it. The United States government was in the process of legally destroying an entire American religion, and it worked. In September of 1890, Church President Wilford Woodruff issued what's known as the Manifesto, a declaration that the church would submit to the laws of the land and stop performing plural marriages. Six years later, Utah became a state. Now, was the manifesto a sincere revelation or a strategic surrender?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Historians have argued about that for a century, and honestly, from where I sit, the answer is that it was messy. Plural marriages kept happening quietly for years afterward. Some performed by senior churchmen, some in Mexico and Canada, where American law didn't reach. It took a national scandal. The Senate hearings over Utah Senator Reid Smoot in the early 1900s to force the issue for good. In 1904, church president Joseph F. Smith issued what's called the second manifesto, and this one had teeth. Anyone entering or performing a new plural marriage would be excommunicated. Two apostles who couldn't accept it were removed from the leadership. And that right there is the fault line where the
Starting point is 00:10:37 FLDS begins. Because for most members, the transition was wrenching but final. The church moved on, and within a couple of generations, mainstream Latter-day Sun. saints were among the most law-abiding, monogamous button-down populations in the country. But a small remnant could not let go. Think about what the doctrine had claimed. Plural marriage wasn't described as optional. It had been taught by some in that era as essential to the highest degree of heaven. Men had gone to prison for it. Families had been built on it, and now the same institution was saying it was over, done, prosecutable by excommunication. To the remnant, that wasn't really.
Starting point is 00:11:18 revelation. That was surrender. And a church that surrendered God's commandments to the United States Congress had, in their eyes, forfeited its authority. They needed a story that explained how the true authority had survived, and a man named Lauren Woolley gave them one. Wully claimed that back in September of 1886, while church president John Taylor was hiding from federal marshals at the Woolly family home in Centerville, Utah. Taylor received a visitation in the night and a revelation that plural marriage would never be revoked. And Woolie said, Taylor secretly ordained a handful of men, Woolly among them, with the authority to keep performing plural marriages no matter what the church itself did. Was any of it true? There's a document in Taylor's
Starting point is 00:12:04 handwriting that fundamentalists point to, though the mainstream church disputes what it means and disputes the ordination story entirely. What matters for our purposes is this. Woolley didn't publish his full account until the late 1920s, four decades after the fact, when he was one of the last men alive who could claim to have been in that house. By then there was no one left to contradict him.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I've taken a lot of witness statements in my life, a story that grows more detailed 40 years after the event, told by the sole surviving witness, who happens to be the main beneficiary, of the story being true. You can draw your own conclusions. His followers drew theirs. Around Woolley formed a small leadership body
Starting point is 00:12:48 that came to be called the Council of Friends, seven men who claimed to hold this hidden priesthood authority. They were excommunicated by the mainstream church, cut off completely, and they wore it like a badge. In their telling, they weren't the ones who had left the faith. The faith had left them,
Starting point is 00:13:06 and they were the last one still standing where Joseph Smith had planted. the flag. Small groups like this usually dissolve within a generation. This one didn't, and the reason it didn't is geography. They found a place to hide. Drive today along the Arizona strip, that lonesome band of land between the Grand Canyon and the Utah line, and you'll come to a spot where the red cliffs of the Vermillion Range tower up behind a little grid of streets. Two towns sit there back to back, Hilldale on the Utah side, Colorado City on the Arizona side. Locals have always called the whole place by its old name. Short Creek.
Starting point is 00:13:46 In the early 1900s it was nothing. A ranching outpost founded around 1913, a few families scratching a living out of the dirt. But look at it the way a fugitive would look at it, and Short Creek is a fortress. It sits on a state line, which means when Arizona lawmen come from the south, you step across the street into Utah. And when Utah lawmen come from the north. You step back. The nearest sizable county seat is hours away over bad roads. In the 1920s and 30s, it might as well have been on the moon. The fundamentalists began gathering there in earnest during the Great Depression, led by men like John W. Barlow and a young true believer named Leroy Johnson. And in 1942, they did something that would shape everything
Starting point is 00:14:33 that came after, right down to lawsuits still being fought in this century. They created a communal Trust called the United Effort Plan. The idea came straight out of early Latter-day Saint teachings about consecration. The notion that a righteous community holds its property in common, members deeded their land, their homes, everything, into the trust. You didn't own your house in Short Creek. The church owned it, and you lived there at the pleasure of the priesthood. Stay tuned for more disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. Here's what that meant in practical terms. And it's the engine of this whole story. In Short Creek, the man who led the church controlled your marriage because only the priesthood could seal one. He controlled your
Starting point is 00:15:22 family because your wife and children were sealed to you through that same authority. And he controlled your home because the deed sat in a trust he administered. Cross him. And you didn't just lose your standing in the congregation. You lost everything all at once in this life and the next. No sheriff has that kind of power. No governor. No president. And in the 1940s, the men holding it were, by most accounts, sincere believers who used it with a relatively light hand.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But the machine had been built. It was just waiting for the wrong hands. The outside world took a few swings at Short Creek early on. There were prosecutions in 1935. There was a coordinated raid in 1944 that swept up fundamentalists in Salt Lake City and elsewhere, and sent a group of men to prison. Some of them were offered early release if they'd sign a pledge renouncing plural marriage. A number signed.
Starting point is 00:16:19 A handful refused and served their full time. And those men came out of prison as legends in the movement, living proof that the faithful don't bend. Prosecutors thought they were deterring the group. They were manufacturing its martyrs. Every arrest confirmed the fundamentalist's central belief that they were the persecuted remnant of the true church, hunted by Babylon just like the pioneers of old.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And then came 1953, the event that would define the government's relationship with Short Creek for half a century. Arizona Governor John Howard Pyle had been getting reports about the settlement for years. Teenage brides, welfare fraud, an entire community organized around a practice that was a felony in both states. And to be fair to Pyle, some of what he was, was hearing was true, and some of what he feared was exactly the kind of thing that would eventually happen there. His problem wasn't the diagnosis. It was the cure. Before dawn on July 26, 1953,
Starting point is 00:17:21 more than 100 Arizona peace officers rolled into Short Creek in a convoy, backed by National Guard support. Carloads of newspapermen invited along to watch. Pyle went on the radio and announced a police action against what he called an insurrection, describing the community. as a lawless enterprise producing white slaves. Here's what the reporters actually saw when the sun came up. The community had been tipped off. Nobody ran. The residents gathered around the flagpole at the schoolhouse, singing hymns, and the men waited quietly to be arrested.
Starting point is 00:17:55 The warrants named more than a hundred adults. Officers arrested the men, some three dozen of them hauled off on polygamy charges, and detained scores of women. And then the state did the thing, that turned the whole operation to ash. They took the children, 263 of them, gathered up along with their mothers, loaded onto buses, and shipped down the canyon to foster arrangements around Phoenix,
Starting point is 00:18:20 a 17-hour drive from home. The photographs went out on the wires within days. Crying children pulled from their fathers, mothers in long pioneer dresses clutching babies on bus steps. Life magazine ran a photo spread, and the tone of the national coverage, was not gratitude toward Governor Pyle. It was horror. Whatever Americans in 1953 thought about polygamy, and they didn't think much of it,
Starting point is 00:18:47 the sight of a government tearing babies away from weeping mothers hit the country in the gut. The legal cases mostly fell apart or ended in probation. It took as long as two years, and for some families even longer. But the mothers and children drifted back to Short Creek, and the community reassembled itself almost exactly as before. And Howard Pyle, a sitting governor who by every account genuinely believed he was rescuing children,
Starting point is 00:19:13 lost his next election. His political career never recovered, and he spent the rest of his life saying the raid had been right and the public had been wrong. Every politician in Utah and Arizona learned the lesson, and the lesson was brutal in its simplicity. Touch short creek and die at the ballot box. So for the next 50 years, they didn't touch it. From the Eisenhower administration to September 11th, an entire American community operated with a de facto exemption from the law. Underage marriages happened there. Both states knew.
Starting point is 00:19:47 County attorneys knew. Everybody with a badge within 200 miles knew. And the file stayed closed because the photographs from 1953 hung over every prosecutor's desk like a curse. This is the part of the story where I have some sympathy for everyone and answers for no one. The raid was a catastrophe of execution, treating an entire town as a crime scene, seizing hundreds of children en masse, most of whom were not in any immediate danger. That was never going to survive contact with public opinion, and it shouldn't have. But the overcorrection was just as much a catastrophe, and it played out in slow motion
Starting point is 00:20:26 over five decades. The children of Short Creek were effectively told by everyone that the law stopped at the edge of town. Somewhere in the years after the raid, the girls who had become Warren Jeff's victims had grandmothers who watched those buses roll in. The state taught Short Creek a lesson in 1953, the wrong one, on both sides. Through the 50s, 60s, and 70s, Short Creek grew quietly under the leadership of Leroy Johnson, a man everybody called Uncle Roy. By the accounts of people who lived under him, faithful and apostate alike, Uncle Roy was a gentler kind of leader. a rancher and road builder who preached long rambling sermons and knew every family in town.
Starting point is 00:21:10 The community was poor, isolated, and strange by outside standards, women in prairie dresses, families with 40 children. But people who left in that era mostly described something that still resembled a community, rather than a cage. Kids played. Family celebrated holidays. There were dogs in the yards and toys at Christmas. But two things happened under Uncle Roy's water.
Starting point is 00:21:33 that loaded the gun for everything that followed. The first was a split in the wider movement. After John W. Barlow died in 1949, a leadership dispute cracked the fundamentalist world in two. One branch followed a man named Rulon Allred and became the group known today as the apostolic United Brethren. That's a whole separate saga and a bloody one. Allred was eventually assassinated in 1977 by followers of a rival polygamist prophet named Irvine. LeBaron, a man the press called the Mormon Manson. That story deserves its own episode someday. The branch that matters tonight is the one that stayed at Short Creek and consolidated under Uncle Roy. In time, it incorporated formally under the name we've been using all night,
Starting point is 00:22:21 the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The second thing was doctrinal, and it sounds like an argument for a seminary classroom, but I promise you it's the hinge of the entire tragedy. For most of the group's history, authority at the top was at least somewhat plural. The Council of Friends, that body of senior men going back to the woolly days, shared power. Decisions about marriages and leadership passed through a group. It was still authoritarian, no mistake, but it had the crude checks that any committee has. Old men argue with each other.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Rivals watch each other. In the late 70s and 80s, an idea called the one-man-man. rule took hold, pushed hard by Uncle Roy in his final years, and by an ambitious counselor of his, named Rulon Jeffs. The doctrine held that priesthood authority on earth runs through exactly one man, not a council, one prophet, whose word is God's word, full stop. A faction of senior men fought it. They lost. In the mid-1980s, the dissenters were pushed out, and they walked about a mile down the road and founded their own community, Centennial Park, which exists to this day, practicing plural marriage under a council system and wanting absolutely
Starting point is 00:23:40 nothing to do with what the FLDS became. The Centennial Park people are proof, if you need it, that this story didn't have to end the way it did. Same doctrine, same town, same families, originally, different power structure, radically different outcome. Because things, Think through what the one-man rule means when you stack it on top of everything Short Creek already was. One man now decides every marriage. One man controls the trust that owns every home. One man determines who holds the priesthood, and a man without the priesthood loses his family,
Starting point is 00:24:16 because his wives and children can be reassigned, sealed to somebody worthier. There is no appeal, because an appeal against the prophet is an appeal against God. Uncle Roy died in 1986 at the age of 98. The machine he'd helped perfect absolute spiritual, marital, and economic power concentrated in a single office. Passed to Roulon Jeffs. And Rulon had a son.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Rulon Jeffs didn't look like a desert prophet. He looked like what he was. A Salt Lake City accountant. A successful one. A man who'd moved comfortably in mainstream business circles while quietly living plural marriage on a compound in the suburb of Sandy. at the mouth of Little Cottonwood Canyon. That compound matters because on its grounds sat a private school called Alta Academy, where the children of Salt Lake Area FLDS families were educated away from Gentile eyes.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And in 1976, Roulin installed a new principal there, his own son Warren, all of 21 years old. Warren Steed Jeffs was born in December of 1955, premature and frail, and he grew into a tall, reedy, soft-spoken man with a flat, hypnotic way of talking that anyone who has heard his recordings will never forget. He ran Alta Academy for about two decades, and the testimony of his former students paints a consistent picture. A rigid disciplinarian obsessed with obedience and purity. A man who taught children that perfect obedience produces perfect faith, and that the worst thing a
Starting point is 00:25:49 young person could do was develop feelings for someone of the opposite sex, without the prophets say so. And there was worse than rigidity at Alta Academy. Years later, Warren's own nephew Brent Jeffs would file a lawsuit, stating that when he was a small boy in the late 1980s, his uncle Warren raped him in a bathroom at that school, telling him it was how he'd become a man. Other nephews made similar accusations. One of them, Claim Jeff's, died by suicide. Warren has never been tried on those accusations, so I'll label them exactly what they are. Allegations in a civil suit. But they belong in the record. Because when you look at what Warren Jeff's was later convicted of doing, with evidence he created himself, the pattern speaks with one
Starting point is 00:26:36 voice. Roulon became profit in 1986 when Uncle Roy died, and for a while he ran things from Sandy, a long-distance profit with an accountant's temperament. He accumulated wives the way the office now expected. Estimates run from 20 to as many as 60 or more by the end, many of them young enough to be as granddaughters. Then in the late 1990s, two things converged. Rulon's health began to fail. A series of strokes starting around 1997 left him diminished, repeating himself, drifting in sermons, and the calendar rolled toward the year 2000, which in FLDS teaching had swollen into an apocalyptic deadline. Rulon prophesied lifting up, destruction of the wicked, the faithful spared. Families sold homes in Salt Lake and gathered to Short Creek to await the end. Warren moved
Starting point is 00:27:28 his father's household down around 1998, and as the old man faded, Warren increasingly spoke for him, first announcing his father's words, then producing them. The year 2000 came. The world declined to end. Now, if you study high control groups and after four decades around this stuff, I've studied plenty, you know that a failed prophecy is a dangerous moment for a leader, but a survivable one, because the sunk costs of the faithful are enormous. People who have sold their homes and severed their outside ties don't walk away when the deadline passes. They wait for the explanation. Warren supplied it. The people weren't worthy yet. The people needed to be more perfect, more obedient, more pure. Do you see what that explanation does? It converts the leader's
Starting point is 00:28:18 failure into the follower's fault, and it hands the leader a license for unlimited tightening. Every new restriction becomes a step toward worthiness. Forever. Rulon Jeffs died in September of 2002, at 92 years old. What happened next tells you everything about the sun. Within days, Warren stood before the senior men of the church and issued his first command as the power behind the vacant throne. Hands off my father's wives. He told the widows, dozens of them, that they were to live as though Roulon were still alive in the next room. And then, within a week or so, he married nearly all of them himself. One elderly widow refused and Warren decreed she would never be permitted to marry again. Another, a young woman named Rebecca Wall, fled the community entirely rather than be handed
Starting point is 00:29:11 from the dead father to the living son. Remember her family name, Wall. Her little sister Alyssa is going to bring this whole empire down. There was no revelation naming Warren Prophet, no vote, no ordination anyone could point to. Years later, in a jailhouse conversation with his own brother that was recorded, Warren would say plainly that he was never the prophet, that he had used to. usurped the office and that the rightful prophet was a humble man named William E. Jessup. His lawyers claimed he misspoke. His followers were never told at all. And the ones who heard
Starting point is 00:29:47 didn't believe it. He simply took the chair and the machine built over 70 years. The one-man rule, the marriage monopoly, the trust that owned every roof in town. All of it snapped into his hands at once. Stay tuned for more disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. Warren Jeffs was 46 years old, and he was now, functionally, the owner of 10,000 human beings. The first thing to understand about Warren's reign is the speed of it. Uncle Roy had governed for decades with slow grandfatherly drift. Warren transformed the community in about three years. The bands came one after another.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Television had already gone. Now came the rest. Movies. Music that wasn't the Prophet's own droning hymns, and I mean that literally, He distributed recordings of himself singing for the faithful to play in their homes. Holidays were canceled. Christmas, gone. The 4th of July, gone.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And as a man currently producing an Independence Day episode, that one lands on me a particular way, because the fireworks over Short Creek went dark for a generation. Community dances, gone. Swimming and playing in the creeks gone. Water sports were of the devil. Children's toys were restricted. Laughter itself was preached against. Warren taught and recorded sermons that laughing loudly drives away the spirit of God.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And the dogs, the ones in the yards, under Uncle Roy. Around the early 2000s, the order came down that dogs were no longer permitted in the community. Families were made to get rid of them, and multiple former members described pets being shot. Town ordinance in Colorado City had already banned dogs years earlier after a mauling incident, but under Warren the rule became total and spiritual. A community that had grown up with dogs in every yard put them down because one man said so. You can tell me that's a small thing next to what's coming, and you're right. But the mechanism is the point, and it's the same mechanism at every scale.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The specific rule doesn't matter. What matters is that compliance is total, and the reason is because the prophet said, Every absurd small obedience is a rehearsal for the terrible large one. The color red was forbidden. Red clothes, red cars, red toys, because Christ would return wearing red and the color belonged to him. The phrase you heard everywhere in town, stitched onto samplers and repeated to daughters, was keep sweet, keep sweet no matter what. It sounds like a homily about niceness.
Starting point is 00:32:28 In practice it meant, do not express anger, do not. not express grief, do not object, obey with a smile, especially you ladies. Education collapsed inward. Public schooling was largely abandoned in favor of home and church schooling, and the curriculum at the top was Warren's own tape-recorded voice, hour after hour of it. Children grew up knowing almost nothing of the outside world, except that it was Babylon, and it hated them. Then he started on the families themselves. The doctrine of reassignment had always existed in the background as a theoretical power. Warren made it routine.
Starting point is 00:33:07 A man judged unfaithful or insufficiently obedient or simply inconvenient would be summoned or sent a letter and told he had lost the priesthood. He was to leave the community, repent from a distance, and his wives and children, the people he'd built his whole mortal and eternal life around, would be sealed to another man. The children would call the new man father. Sometimes the letter gave him a day to be gone from a house he had built with his own hands. On land his grandfather had deeded to the trust in 1942.
Starting point is 00:33:39 In January of 2004, Warren stood up in a meeting in Colorado City and without warning, read out the names of 21 men, stripped them of their families and their membership, and ordered them gone. Among them was Dan Barlow, the longtime mayor of Colorado City, a pillar of the community from its founding family. Witnesses describe grown men weeping and asking what they had done, and being told to leave quietly and repent. Nobody rushed the pulpit. Nobody organized. Each man walked out alone because to resist the profit was to lose not just this world, but the next one. And every man watching learned the same lesson the men of 1953 had taught their grandsons. Endure it. Keep sweet. And there's a colder arithmetic
Starting point is 00:34:25 underneath all of this. The part polite coverage tiptoes around. Polygamy has a math problem. If prominent men are to have five, ten, twenty wives, then a lot of young men can have none. The community had always managed this tension. Warren solved it like a man balancing a ledger. He got rid of the boys. Through the early 2000s, hundreds of teenage boys were expelled from the FLDS or pressured out. Some for offenses like listening to music, watching a move, movie, talking to a girl. Some were simply driven to St. George or Hurricane Utah and dropped off. 16, 17 years old, eighth grade educations, no birth certificates in some cases, no idea how to open a bank account or fill out a job application, severed from every human being they had ever
Starting point is 00:35:15 known, and taught since infancy that the world outside would destroy their souls. They came to be called the Lost Boys. Estimates of their numbers run from several hundred to a thousand across those years. Some found their way to advocates and eventually filed suit against Jeffs and the trust. Some built decent lives with help from ex-member networks. Some went into addiction and homelessness. Some didn't survive at all. Every one of those boys was somebody's son, cast out by a man who claimed to speak for God, and the reason, stripped of all theology, was supply and demand because the girls were being kept
Starting point is 00:35:55 and assigned. In the spring of 2001, a 14-year-old girl in Hilldale named Alyssa Wall was told by her family that the prophet had received a revelation. She was to be married. The groom was her first cousin, Alan Steed, 19 years old, a young man she knew and did not like.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Alyssa did something almost nobody in that community did. She objected. out loud, repeatedly, to her mother, to her family, and eventually face to face with the men who ran her world. She asked for time. She asked for a different match. She asked to wait until she was older. She was 14, and she argued her case like a lawyer, and it got her nowhere. The answer that came back was that the placement was the will of God, that her feelings would follow her obedience, and that refusing risked her salvation and her family's standing. The profit at the time was old Rulon, fading fast.
Starting point is 00:36:54 The man actually managing the arrangements, the man who heard her objections and pushed the marriage through, was Warren. In April of 2001 at a motel across the Nevada line in Caliente, Warren Jeffs performed the ceremony himself. Court testimony describes Alyssa crying through it, unable at first to say the words, her own mother and sister in the room. Warren instructed the newlyweds to go forth and multiply and replenish the earth. She was in the eighth grade. What followed, Alyssa would later describe under oath in wrenching detail. She didn't know what sex was on her wedding night. Nobody had ever told her.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And when her new husband initiated it weeks later, she experienced it as exactly what Utah law says it was. She went to Warren for help, told him what was happening, told him she couldn't do this. His counsel, by her testimony, was to repent, to submit to her husband, to keep sweet. The marriage ground on for years. There were miscarriages. There was despair. Eventually there was a young man from outside her marriage, an escape, and a new life beyond the creek, which is what the locals call Short Creek.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And eventually, there was a phone call to investigators, because by the mid-2000s, the outside world had finally started living. listening. You have to ask why it took until then, and the honest answer is a braided one. The 1953 hangover was still real. No politician wanted to own another Short Creek raid. Jurisdiction was a nightmare. The town straddled two states by design, and the local police force, the town marshals, answered in practice to the priesthood. Victims were trained from birth not to talk to Gentile authorities, and the crimes happened behind a wall of silence. Plural marriages had no public records. Celestial wives were coached to describe themselves as single mothers.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That last detail, by the way, wasn't just secrecy. It was revenue. A community where most mothers are legally single is a community optimized for public assistance. And money flowed into Short Creek through welfare and food programs for decades. A practice insiders reportedly called Bleeding the Beast. Federal prosecutors are going to come back to that phrase. What cracked the wall was the ex-members. Through the early 2000s, the expelled men, the lost boys, the runaway wives and daughters accumulated on the outside.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And unlike every previous generation of apostates, they had two new weapons, the Internet, which let them find each other and be heard. And a handful of activists, attorneys, journalists, and one relentless private investigator named Sam Brower, who spent years assembling the case the states wouldn't. Utah and Arizona finally moved. Arizona indicted Jeff's in 2005 for arranging a marriage between a 16-year-old girl and a married 28-year-old man. Utah followed with charges built on Alyssa Wall's case, and this is where the law got creative in a way my cop brain genuinely admires. Warren hadn't touched Alyssa, so Utah charged him as an accomplice to rape.
Starting point is 00:40:10 The theory was simple and merciless. when a man with absolute spiritual authority orders a 14-year-old into a marriage over her stated objections, counsels her to submit, and holds her sole hostage to her compliance. He is a participant in what happens in that bedroom, as surely as if he'd been standing in the room. That same year, 2005, Utah courts pried his fingers off the money. The state moved on the United Effort Plan Trust, the entity holding essentially all the land and homes in Short Creek, valued north of $100 million after Jeffs simply refused to defend it against mounting lawsuits.
Starting point is 00:40:48 A judge handed it to a court-appointed fiduciary. The prophet had lost the deed to his kingdom without ever showing up to court. Warren's response to all of it was the response of every cornered profit in history. He ran. Except Warren Jeff's didn't just run. He'd been preparing his exit for years, and this is where the story picks up a piece of real estate that true crime, audiences know well. Back in 2003, a church agent named David Allred had purchased a 1700 acre spread outside the tiny West Texas town of El Dorado, telling locals it would be a corporate hunting retreat. The hunters turned out to be work crews of quiet men in long sleeves who built with astonishing speed, enormous log dormitories, a cheese
Starting point is 00:41:34 plant, a rock quarry, gardens, a water treatment system, and then, rising out of the skeet where everyone in Schlecker County could see it, a gleaming white limestone temple, four stories of it, visible for miles. They called the place the Y-F-Z Ranch, yearning for Zion. The locals, to their credit, figured out fast who their new neighbors were. A Salt Lake area paper and the town's tenacious little weekly connected the dots within months. Texas watched and waited, and mostly had no legal grounds to do anything. Meanwhile, Jeffs began quietly sorting his entire church. The most faithful, the most useful.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And prosecutors would later show, a number of the youngest brides were called to Zion in Texas. Everyone else stayed in Short Creek. Many never told where their relatives had gone. Families learned a loved one was simply gone to a place of refuge. No forwarding address. The prophet had turned even geography into an instrument of control. And for those 15 months on the run, Warren Jeffs lived like what he was, a fugitive with a war chest.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He crisscrossed the country in that escalade and other vehicles with a rotating cast of loyal wives and brothers, wearing disguises, carrying stacks of prepaid phones. We know his itinerary in strange detail because Warren kept dictating his priesthood record the entire time. Thousands of pages of his own words, confessions, revelations, travel logs. He visited tourist sites. He held marriage ceremonies on the run. Most guys on the run are exhausting to track because they're chaotic. Jeff's was the opposite, disciplined, funded,
Starting point is 00:43:20 protected by a network of true believers who considered hiding him a sacred duty. What caught him wasn't a task force cracking the network. It was that paper tag on Interstate 15, and trooper Dutchover's eye and a pulse hammering in a thin man's neck. awaiting trial in a Utah jail. The prophet came apart. He stopped eating for stretches. He developed sores on his knees from Marathon Prayer.
Starting point is 00:43:46 In January of 2007 came a recorded jailhouse conversation with his brother Nephi, where Warren, hollow-eyed, called himself the greatest of all sinners, said he was not the prophet and never had been, and that the office rightfully belonged to a man named William E. Jessup. That same winter he attempted to hang himself in his cell. Then within weeks, he retracted all of it, reclaimed the mantle, and never let go of it again. Make of that window whatever you will. It's the only moment in the entire record where Warren Jeff's told a version of the truth about himself.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And it happened when the machine was stripped away and he was alone in a cell with what he'd done. The machine came back. So did the prophet. Utah tried him in St. George in September of 2007 on two counts of rape as an accomplice in the marriage of Alyssa Wall. She testified for days, 21 years old by then, composed and devastating. The jury convicted 10 years to life. His Utah conviction, I should note for the record, was overturned in 2010. The state Supreme Court found the jury instructions faulty, and Utah never retried him.
Starting point is 00:45:00 disturbing history. We'll be back after these messages. If that were the end of the legal story, Warren Jeffs might be a free man today. But that's not the end of the legal story, because in the spring of 2008, a phone rang at a family crisis shelter in San Angelo, Texas. The voice on the phone was small and frightened. She said her name was Sarah, that she was 16, that she was at the YFZ ranch, married as a plural wife to a much older man who beat her, and worse. that she had a baby and was pregnant again. Texas authorities did what they are legally obligated to do with an outcry like that. On April 3, 2008, state troopers and rangers and child welfare investigators rolled through the gates of the ranch,
Starting point is 00:45:50 and what began as a search for one girl became over the next week, the largest child custody operation in the history of the United States. More than 400 children, 439 by the final count, were removed from, the ranch, and buses again, 55 years after Short Creek, carried crying children and pioneer dresses past news cameras. Now here's the twist you may already know. There was no Sarah. The calls were eventually traced to a 33-year-old woman in Colorado Springs named Rosita Swinton, who had no connection to the ranch and a documented history of false abuse calls made in the personas of imperiled girls. The outcry that launched the raid was a hoax. And the mass removal
Starting point is 00:46:32 collapsed in the courts, just like 1953. Within two months, Texas appellate courts, including the state Supreme Court, ruled that sweeping every child off the ranch, infants included, exceeded what the evidence justified, and the children went back. Civil libertarians said the state had panicked, and they certainly had a point. The blanket removal of hundreds of children on an anonymous call is not a precedent anybody should be comfortable with, no matter who the target is. But this is where history stopped rhyming with 1953. Because the raid, whatever its origin, had put lawful search warrants inside that ranch. And what investigators found there did not go back on the buses.
Starting point is 00:47:16 They found the temple annex vault. Inside it, the church's own meticulous records. And I mean Warren's records. The dictations, the marriage logs, the photographs. Among them, pictures of Warren Jeff's embracing and kissing young girls, In bridal white, images entered into evidence with the girls' ages established by the church's own paperwork. Twelve and fourteen years old. There were Bishop's records cataloging families and ceilings.
Starting point is 00:47:45 There was a bed inside the temple itself, which witnesses testified was used in rituals I'm not going to detail on this show, involving the consummation of celestial marriages. And there was DNA, collected under court order from the children and adults, which allowed prosecutors to do something no one had ever managed against the FLDS. Prove paternity. Prove that specific men in their 30s, 40s, 50s had fathered children with specific girls who the church's own records showed were underage at conception. The hoax call was the key that turned in the lock.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Everything behind the door was real. Texas indicted 12 FLDS men, and the convictions and guilty pleas rolled in one after a other, on charges from bigamy to sexual assault of a child. Among them was Merrill Jessup, the ranch's presiding elder, who had given his own 12-year-old daughter to the prophet. And in the summer of 2011, in a courtroom in San Angelo, the state of Texas tried Warren Steve's for the aggravated sexual assault of that 12-year-old and the sexual assault of a 15-year-old, both of them his celestial brides. He dismissed his entire high-priced defense team as testimony began and represented himself. He filed motion signed as the Lord's servant. He objected
Starting point is 00:49:06 on religious grounds so relentlessly, the judge lost patience, and at one point he broke into a courtroom sermon, nearly an hour long, warning of a scourge of sickness and death upon the counties that dared prosecute him. His only defense witness was a church elder who read scripture aloud at length. And when the time came for his closing argument, Warren Jeff stood mute at the defense table, staring at the floor for nearly the entire half hour he was allotted, while the judge reminded him of his remaining time, and the jurors looked back and forth at one another. Then he turned toward the jury and mumbled four words, I am at peace. That was the whole defense. The state's closing argument was Warren's own voice. Prosecutors played an audio recording
Starting point is 00:49:51 recovered from the ranch, made by Jeff's himself, documenting his assault of the 12-year-old in that temple bed, with other wives present and assisting, because in his theology, witnesses to celestial ordinances were required. I have listened to descriptions of that tape from jurors and reporters who sat through it, and I chose a long time ago not to seek out more than that. The jury heard all of it. They took less than four hours to convict. In the punishment phase, prosecutors laid the fuller ledger in front of that jury, 78 wives beside his one legal spouse, and 24 of them under the age of 17. The jury needed about half an hour to hand down the maximum the law allowed. Life plus 20 years. Warren Jeffs went into the Texas prison system, and he sits tonight in the Louis C. Pauge Unit outside
Starting point is 00:50:43 Palestine, with any possibility of parole so many decades away that the question is nearly academic. The evidence that destroyed him was evidence he created. The dictations, the logs, the photographs, the tape. Fifty years of prosecutors couldn't build a case against Short Creek because the community kept no records the state could reach. Warren recorded everything because a man who believes his every act is scripture, archives his crimes as revelation. The prophet was convicted out of his own book.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Here's where most tellings of this story roll credits. Monster caught, monster convicted, life plus 20. Justice. Except the FLDS didn't dissolve when the cell door closed. That's the part of this story that matters most tonight, because it's the part still generating missing children as of last year. To the faithful remnant, Warren's imprisonment wasn't a verdict. It was a fulfillment.
Starting point is 00:51:40 The true prophet persecuted by Babylon, just like Joseph Smith and Carthage, just like the men of the 1944 raid. The theology had a slot pre-cut for exactly this event, and Warren dropped into it perfectly. From his cell, through visits and phone calls and letters relayed by loyal brothers and sons, he kept ruling, and prison did not moderate him. It distilled him. In late 2011 and 2012, edicts flowed out of Texas that former members described as the strangest and cruelest of his entire reign.
Starting point is 00:52:13 All marital relations were suspended. Every married couple in the church ordered to live as celibates until further notice. Then came the doctrine former members and Warren's own daughter, Rachel, have described publicly that only a handful of worthy men, so-called seed bears, could father the community's children going forward,
Starting point is 00:52:32 with husbands reduced to bystanders in their own marriages. Food rules arrived and multiplied. Whole categories of ordinary groceries banned as unclean. Toys were gathered up and destroyed in at least some households. Children's bicycles went.
Starting point is 00:52:48 More holidays, gone. And this from a baseline where Christmas had already been dead for a decade. And the expulsions became a flood. Warren purged the membership in waves, demanding rebaptisms and confessions, dissolving families by letter from a prison cell. People who had survived everything, the 2004 purges, the raids, the trials, got their letters in 2012 and 2013, and found themselves standing outside the only world they'd ever known.
Starting point is 00:53:18 The population of the loyal core collapsed. From a movement of perhaps 10,000 at Warren's ascension, the hard remnant today is estimated by ex-members and researchers in the low thousands at most, scattered from the Dakotas to the Rockies in what the church calls places of refuge, small compounds, and rented properties were the most faithful wait for instructions. Day-to-day power in those years ran through Warren's brother Lyle Jeffs, the Bishop on the ground, and Lyle's chapter of this story is where the bleeding the beast thread pays off. In February of 2016, federal prosecutors indicted Lyle, another brother named Seth,
Starting point is 00:53:59 and nine others in a scheme that diverted millions of dollars in food stamp benefits. Members ordered to hand their benefit cards to the church, groceries flowing into a bishop's storehouse, and money flowing wherever the priesthood wanted it. The government put the fraud in the range of $12 million. Lyle got pretrial release with a GPS ankle monitor, which was the FBI's second mistake, the first being underestimating a family with 15 months of documented fugitive experience. In June of 2016, Lyle slipped the monitor and the affidavit detail made national news because it was too perfect. He'd apparently worked his foot free using olive oil. The FBI's field office publicly joked that they couldn't rule out a miracle.
Starting point is 00:54:43 He lasted almost exactly a year. In June of 2017, a pawn shop tip led agents to Yankton, South Dakota, where the fugitive bishop of the FLDS was living out of a truck, broke and alone, pawning tools to eat. The man who had helped his brother expel hundreds of boys into exactly that kind of exile, got a federal sentence of nearly five years and a long look at how it felt. I'd call that poetic in its own twisted way. While the prophet ruled his shrinking remnant from prison, something remarkable. happened to the town he abandoned. It started with the courts. In 2012, the Justice Department sued Hildale and Colorado City themselves, the municipal governments, on the theory that the towns operated as arms of the church, and in 2016, a federal jury in Phoenix agreed. The evidence
Starting point is 00:55:35 showed town governments and the shared marshal's office denying non-members water hookups and building permits, ignoring crimes against apostates, tipping off the church. functioning for decades as the priesthood's uniformed branch. A federal judge ordered years of court supervision, retraining, and reform of the police force. Arizona decertified a string of Short Creek marshals over the years for exactly the divided loyalty everyone had always known was there. Then the land.
Starting point is 00:56:06 That United Effort Plan trust the court seized in 2005 spent years in litigation. But the outcome on the ground was a quiet revolution. homes that had belonged to the priesthood were surveyed, subdivided, and distributed, and for the first time in 70 years, families in Short Creek began holding actual deeds. Ex-members came home, people who'd been expelled by letter returned and bought back the houses their grandfathers built. Loyalists, forbidden by Warren from cooperating with the Gentile Trust, largely refused to pay the modest occupancy fees, and were evicted or drifted away to the
Starting point is 00:56:41 refuge properties. The demographic flip produced results nobody in 1953 would have believed. In 2017, Hildale, Utah elected a new mayor, Donya Jessup, a woman, a former FLDS member, a business owner who had left the church and come back to run the town. Under leadership like hers came paved streets with actual street signs, a functioning public school welcoming kids in ordinary clothes, coffee shops, festivals, tourists,
Starting point is 00:57:11 tourists headed to Zion National Park, stopping in a town that for decades ran outsiders off. And Warren's own compound in Hildale, the walled residents of the Prophet, became the Short Creek Dream Center, a recovery and transition house run in part by former members, where people leaving polygamy, addiction, and homelessness, get beds and job help. The building where the Prophet assigned wives now teaches escapies how to write a resume. The old Short Creek isn't fully gone. Faithful FLDS families still live in and around town, keeping to themselves, and the two populations pass each other at the gas station, carrying 70 years of history. But the fortress is open. That's not nothing.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Some weeks it feels like everything, which brings us to now, and to why I said at the top that this story is still live. The civil judgments against Warren Jeffs have piled up into numbers that read, like satire. Elissa Wall won $16 million against him in 2017. In 2023, a federal judge in Utah entered a default judgment of $152 million in favor of a group of survivors who testified about forced marriages and assaults. Warren answers no lawsuits and sits on assets hidden or scattered, so the judgments function less as compensation than as a public record with a dollar sign, and the hunt for church money grinds on. As recently as June of 2025, a Minnesota jury found that Warren and his brother Seth had
Starting point is 00:58:45 shuffled property to dodge Alyssa Wall's judgment, hiding better than $800,000 from her collection efforts. She's still fighting them. The prophet himself keeps prophesying. Starting around 2022, a new wave of revelations came out of the Powledge unit, distributed through his sons, calling scattered and expelled members back to the fold, including children of ex-members, families outside the church began reporting relatives simply vanishing into the refuge network in answer to the call. Then came revelations that former members made public in 2025. The documents describe teachings that the children of the faith must be made pure, and speak of children dying and being resurrected as translated beings.
Starting point is 00:59:30 In June of 2025, two teenagers in eastern Idaho, 15-year-old Rochelle Fisher and her 13-year-old brother Allen. Children of a mother who had left the FLDS disappeared from their home while she was at Bible study. Their older sister had vanished into the same network two years before. An Amber alert went out across the region. Their mother told reporters she believed they'd been taken back into the church to fulfill the prophet's revelation and that she feared what pure meant. Law enforcement in multiple states got involved and ex-member organizations pleaded publicly for information on where the refuge properties are and who is inside them. Two kids gone into a network run on the word of a man serving life plus 20
Starting point is 01:00:15 for what he did to children, whose current teachings talk about children dying pure. That's not ancient history. That was last summer, and as I record this, Rochelle and Allen are still missing, and the mantle keeps splitting off new prophets. The most horrifying recent example was Samuel Bateman, A former FLDS member from Colorado City, who declared himself a prophet around 2019 and gathered
Starting point is 01:00:42 a following of a few families, taking more than 20 wives and so-called spiritual brides, including girls as young as nine years old. Nine. He was caught in 2022, initially because an officer and Flagstaff stopped him hauling a box trailer down the highway with children riding inside it. Federal kidnapping and conspiracy charges followed after girls fled a safe. House and were spirited across state lines by his followers. Bateman pleaded guilty and in late 2024 was sentenced to 50 years in federal prison and several of his adult followers, including
Starting point is 01:01:17 women who groomed and delivered the girls, went to prison with him. Bateman wasn't FLDS leadership. The remnant loyal to Warren refuses to acknowledge him. But he is what the machine produces. He grew up inside the system Warren perfected, watched how absolute claimed authority converts into absolute access. And when he wanted that access, he knew exactly which words to say and exactly which people had been trained from birth to obey them. The machine is the story. It always was. Let me go back to where I started this. With that traffic stop on Interstate 15, because there's a detail from it I saved for the end. When the officers finally confirmed who they had, one of them asked the tall man to state his name for the record, and Warren Jeff's 15 months of
Starting point is 01:02:05 of wigs and burner phones and false names behind him, gave it up quietly. No struggle. The most wanted man in America surrendered like a shoplifter, because men like Warren Jeffs are only ever powerful inside the world they build. Take them out of the temple, off the compound, away from the people trained since birth to tremble at their voice. And what's left is a nervous middle-aged man in an SUV whose own body gave him away. That's the honest core of tonight, and it's why I told you
Starting point is 01:02:35 at the beginning that this was never a story about religion. Faith didn't marry Alyssa Wall to her cousin at 14. A man did. A structure did. One man holding the marriages, the homes, the families, and eternity itself, with no counsel to argue with him, no court he answered to, and a government 50 years deep into looking away. The people of Short Creek weren't fools or villains. They were overwhelmingly, sincere believers doing what people do everywhere, trying to be good by the lights they were given. Their tragedy is that a machine four generations in the building handed control of those lights to whoever sat in one chair, and then a predator sat down in it. The mainstream church saw the danger of that kind of concentrated, unaccountable claim on people's
Starting point is 01:03:24 lives and walled it off more than a century ago. The Centennial Park Group, a mile down the road, kept plural marriage but refused to the one-man rule and produced nothing remotely like Warren Jeff's. Same scriptures, same desert, different machine, different outcome. That comparison is worth more than every sermon I could preach. And the state failed at both ends, which is a sentence I don't say lightly as a man who wore a badge for 16 years. It failed in 1953 with a raid so clumsy it created martyrs and orphaned the truth for 50 years. Then it failed for those 50 years by treating an American town like a foreign country. The children in between paid for both failures, and some of them grew up to become the survivors,
Starting point is 01:04:12 the investigators, the mayors and the witnesses who finally did what the government wouldn't. The FLDS wasn't brought down by a task force. It was brought down by its own escapees, one girl on a witness stand, one nephew with a lawsuit, one private eye with a fight, violent cabinet and a prophet who couldn't stop writing down what he did. Warren Jeffs will almost certainly die in the Powellage unit. His revelations will keep leaking out of it as long as he can dictate a sentence. And somewhere tonight, there are children in unmarked houses being raised on his voice, and there are people, ex-members mostly, working with almost no money and less attention to
Starting point is 01:04:52 find them. If tonight made you angry, that's the place to point it. Not at anyone's faith. at the silence and at the men who counted on it. 263 children rode the buses out of Short Creek in 1953. 439 rode them out of El Dorado in 2008. Rochelle and Alan Fisher went out a door in Idaho last June. We keep counting children, and I'd like to stop.

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