Two In The Think Tank - 102 - Hugh Hefner
Episode Date: October 4, 2017A week after his death, we discuss the life of the original playboy, Hugh Hefner! There are a lot of sex jokes and Jess gets grossed out by her own report. Enjoy! Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagra...m: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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My name is Dave Warnke and I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart.
Hello Dave!
Hi Dave, how's it going?
Good thanks how you met you?
Yeah pretty good.
Whatever so number is this?
102.
102.
Do you think you would think that after 102 I would get sick of mowling the intro with you
But it's still so fun. She did it every week. I never noticed until you bring it up. You never look at me
That's why you don't never you don't look directly into the sun
True true, that's fair you you burn too bright. Yeah, I'm a shooting star. You're my sunshine. Stop it! I can't handle this.
Yes.
Guys.
But it's great to be here, I must say.
Yeah.
Just wearing a beautiful jumper there.
Thank you.
Dave also.
Oh, come on, Dave.
He's a pilot.
He's a pilot, he says about me.
This is going to be the best.
He's throwing out compliments.
What's he going to say?
Here we go.
Just waiting patiently now for a real uplifting comment here say here we go just waiting patiently now for real uplifting comment here here we go
You look like a hot dad
Good to go on thanks so many different ways anyway. What is a hot dad look? I went for honesty. Oh, thanks, my policy. It's real nice
And my appearance is
And my appearance is spot on thank you you look like a hot sun Thanks, is that why is it because she was a sun? That's why you call me a dad?
No
No reason to you mate Dave's improv school. Dave doesn't believe in the yes end here shut up hot mom
I'll take that I've definitely I've definitely, I've made jokes in my stand
about looking like a mom, but I've never mentioned hot.
So thank you for that.
Thank you.
I'm imagining you did that.
Hey guys, I look like a hot mom.
And then hold for a pause.
Yes.
Hold for a pause, standing ovation.
Thank you.
I just realized as I'm sitting here that it is my report this week and I forgot to write a question again.
Oh, Jess. Yeah.
You don't need to write questions.
That's 102 weeks in a row.
Well, I mean, two out of three, you weren't meant to, but...
I don't like to shoot anyway.
You're great if you write a question on the weeks you weren't supposed to.
Just to see if I got it right
Can I be fun, wouldn't it? It would be a lot of fun Can I give you a moment of pause?
I'll ask Dave something right and in that time you can feel a question. Okay. Hey Dave. Yes dad. I mean Matt
Sorry son. I've been I've been hoping to get to chat to you soon son and
Mm-hmm look. It's nothing, it's nothing bad,
but I just thought we needed to clear the air.
Is there anything you wanted to bring up with me, son?
Not that I can think of, Dad.
Dave, son, David.
David, son.
Dad, father.
Please, admit to what. Dad, father. Please.
Admit to what you did, please.
Oh, I can hear him swallow it.
Oh, it's a my screen out of the container.
That's a different thing to what I always think of.
Oh, I know. Now you're grounded for two two weeks and seeing. Wow. Can you feel that? Yeah. That was heart
wrenching. Yeah. Heart wrenching. It was a combination of gut wrenching and heart
warming. Just have you ever heard of NIDA the National Institute of Dramatic
Arts? Have I heard of it? I bloody found a Nder. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, I found it.
Did you know that? Wow, I did not know that. Yeah, I'm a big lover of the arts.
Dramatic arts. Oh, done. Yeah, yeah. I
sort of friend over the weekend. It was the Grand Final weekend.
I saw a friend who's just started a new job as a courier, so he's got a lot of time in the car.
A courier. A courier. And he's like, oh, it's listening to your podcast.
It's really great.
So thanks very much Pat, Lily, that's lovely.
And he goes, one quick thing, let's do it here we go.
Oh, no, no.
Now, just can we just leave it there and start the show, because that would be real good.
One quick thing is that he said, sometimes it takes a long time to get to the topic.
And I said, that is feedback we have received.
And we rejected every time
sir we are conscious of it but well you know if I broke don't fix it it's broke
that was what I wanted to share that story finally enough delayed getting
it got the latest getting to the topic yeah but I reckon if your friend heard
himself being mentioned he'd be like hey I don't care that's cool you mentioned
exactly interesting so now we'll have to anyone who complains we will mention just your friend heard himself being mentioned. He'd be like, hey. I don't care. That's cool, you mentioned me. Exactly.
Interesting.
So now we'll have anyone who complains we will mention.
Just to keep them interested.
I don't want to do that at all.
Don't do that.
Out of that bit out, please, Jess.
Because plants are, they hurt.
Has that been enough time to give you,
er, to our, oh, you understand what I was saying?
Yeah, I gotcha.
It was an enough time to write a question.
Yeah.
I still didn't write it down even though I've got a laptop in front of me, but I wrote it in
my head.
I mentally wrote it down with a pen on a piece paper.
Okay.
Okay, so here's my question to you gentlemen.
Which dirty old man died last week?
Oh, half way through, I'm like, you doing a report on me?
But no, I'm still alive.
Do you hold man died last week?
I know this one.
Do you know this one?
I also know this one, but I'm gonna give it to Matt because I feel like he takes more pride in getting him right.
He does, he gets very competitive, doesn't he?
Well, more pride just because I'm the best at it.
I mean, sure, if you think that's being prideful, knowing that you're the best at something, sure.
I guess I'm a prideful guy.
You're the best at it. I'm a proud man. You're the best being humble, too, aren't you that you're the best at something. Sure. I guess I'm a prideful guy. You're the best at something.
I'm a proud man.
You're the best being humble too, aren't you?
I am.
I'm the best.
You're the most humble on the pod.
I am the most humble.
Humble.
I am.
If you don't answer, I'm going to take the glory here.
I think it's, I think it's buddy, at all Hitler.
He did, just last week.
Yeah.
What a dirty old man.
Probably feels like last week to you I met because
of the time bloody flies. If it wasn't him the other guy died a huge huge huge
half-nau. You know meant to pronounce the G-I-O. Hug half-nau. Hug-nau. So this was
suggested by Matt Young. Is this coincidence? Well it was it was in the hat and it also felt quite timely. Or bad taste. I can't really tell which is.
We had a couple of people tweeting it to us. I've actually noticed. Yeah. In the last week saying let's let's talk about Hugh.
Okay, I'm sorry if I missed anybody then. I just had what was already in the hat which was Matt Young and Tabitha Horn. Probably a few others that have a lot of fun.
They got, they got, they're not bandwagon jumpers.
They're Hugh Hefner fans from, from before last week.
The beginning, the beginning.
And it felt timely but also probably, I don't know, is it bad taste?
No, because I think he was a bad guy so I don't know.
I think there's no sort of time when it was like that.
He was not a good day.
He can dance straight on his grave so I mean, is that what you're going to do?
You're going to do a dance piece? Oh yeah. No arms. I do. Please not River Dance.
Dave. If I die, you can River Dance on my permission granted. Not even, we're neither
refunded. He's said on the record. We'll not be offended. I'd welcome it. You know how people
sort of kiss us, guiles, um, to him and think. Yeah. Dance River, River Dance only. I'm not talking
about a chacha or a ballroom. No. Get the fuck off. Yeah. You got Dance, River Dance only. I'm not talking about a Chacha or a ballroom.
No.
Get the fuck off.
Yeah.
You got the full River Dance, Michael Flatley,
invited him to perform at my funeral, please.
I am gonna do this, but I'm also then gonna play this exact clip over so that your family
aren't like, what the fuck is she doing?
I'll play this, so there's context, and I'll River Dance to it.
Also, hoping to outlive Michael Flatley just quietly.
Yeah, I thought that was bold. From memory though Dave's not going to have a grave he's
going to be shooting up at the start so you're going to have to dance on a rocket ship.
Yeah I'll be shot into space. I could dance on a rocket ship.
Ah Lajin Roddenbury. So I broke this up into like two parts so basically
Hugh Heffner and then also Playboy a little bit later as well.
Because it was kind of hard to do as one overall timeline.
Because there's a lot happening.
So we're going to have some sweet flashbacks.
We're going to have some flashbacks.
Wow.
I'm going to start with the man, the legend.
Oh, not.
Well, the legend's not always a positive thing, so yeah, there you go.
Yeah, good call. He's infamous.
I feel like I'm undecided on him, so maybe you can convince me that he's a bad guy.
Okay. Great. Well, that'll be fun. He has a really great middle name.
I mean, Heffner's already a pretty good name, but his name is Hugh Maaston Heffner.
Maaston. Maaston. I like it. Me too.
Alright, that's what you want in the good colon.
Hey, Jim Heff. That's her majesty's Haffner. Yes, magic Haffner. Yes
Magic Haffner is the name of a sex toy that the playboy enterprises
I've never heard of that never heard of that so that's weird. What's the new thing? I'm learning right now
Your eyes are diving around a lot for someone who's never heard of just I've just yeah
I'm dark my eyes dark one. I've never heard of something you seem you sweating no
I've never sweated. I know a net. I don't sweat
You don't sweat. No
Don't you see looks sick to you. Yeah, it's because he pants like a dog
to see it looks sick to you. Yeah, he's because he pants like a dog.
Especially when he's learning a new fact.
He's always down.
He starts panting.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, I forgot.
You know, that he works his tail.
You said we say good boy.
Well, how do I down?
I have.
We haven't told the listeners I'm an I'm an
a session.
A session.
Interesting.
I would have gone Labrador.
Labrador, that's what I meant.
Are they different?
Oh, God.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Okay. I want to segue Labrador. Labrador, that's what I meant. Are they different? Oh god. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Okay.
I want to segue into what kind of dog are we,
but we don't have time.
This I want to get through.
What kind of dog is Hugh?
Oh, a Dota dog.
Correct.
All right, let's go.
Is that what you want?
Let's get.
Excellent.
He was born during the prohibition era in Chicago, Illinois,
on April 9th, 1926.
He was the first child of Grace Caroline, who worked as a teacher, and Glenn Lucius
Heffner, who was an accountant.
Oh!
I think a great name.
Glenn?
He could balance my book any day.
Glenn?
What was it, Glenn Lucius?
Lucius.
Yeah, but Glenn.
Glenn Lucius.
Glenn Heffner, the accountant. Lucius Heffner. Yeah, but Glenn. Glenn Lucius. Glenn Haffner, the accountant.
Lucius Haffner, I would have definitely
gone a little bit on that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big time.
But then would you then shorten Lucius?
Luci.
Oh, Luci.
You know, hello, they're all Luci, you're like content.
A pleasure to make your acquaintance, it's Luci.
Oh, you can call me Luci.
I hate it.
Hello, I'm Luci.
I'm here to negative gear your property.
Oh, fuck, it's still boring. What a loose unit.
Loose by name, loose by nature.
It's Sean Connery. Yeah, that's who we that is real bad.
That's interesting. It's a lot of man who's much younger than him.
Yeah, we eat. Hey, that's interesting. That's a lot of man who's much younger than him. Yeah, weird.
Hey, the world works mysterious ways.
He attended school as relatively normally, described his family as conservative Midwestern
and Methodist.
It's interesting he came from a conservative family.
He served from 1944 to 1946 as a US Army writer for a military newspaper.
That year. He served. It was 1944. 1944 to 1946 as a US Army writer for a military newspaper
They year was 1944 served. Yeah, just for I'm picturing some sort of active duty and in the end is
You're typing up a couple of short paragraphs about
Something but they were a what's for sale in the trading bus?
But they were a compelling couple paragraphs. Yeah, right. I mean it didn't sacrifice his journalistic integrity. That took in the end of the war, right? Is that something?
44 to 46. Yeah, I wonder if he had anything to do with that. Did he kill Hitler? Look, here
with his words, we can't confirm nor deny Hitler read that in the bunker and was like, I've got to go.
Oh, this is so moving. I won't read anything better than this in my life. I've never written such awkward prose before. I mean, what is he getting at? He just keeps talking about
bonus. And that was then that Hitler saw the writing on the wall.
Bonus. Yeah. So he graduated from the University of Illinois with a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology
and a double minor in Creative Writing and Art.
He earned his degree in two and a half years and graduated in 1949.
After graduation, he took a semester of graduate courses in sociology at Northwestern University
but dropped out soon after.
So he's an educated guy, psychology, creative
arts, sociology. I'll show you my sociology. Something he would say. That's a direct quote.
And that's how he knocks six months off his degree. Don't worry about the last semester.
You're creeping us out. What is one male at here? Please leave. You've got the degree mate. In 1949,
Hepnomeried North, Northwestern University student, Mildred or Millie Williams. Millie Williams.
Millie Williams, that's pretty good. Mildred no good. Millie great. I'm thinking absolutely
shock us. That's an amazing step up haven't you really flipped it millie very good
Very very fun. They had to believe in Willie. Sorry not worth it. Oh,
G probably not accepted never can be forgiven
Millie and heff had two children their daughter Christy was born in 1952 and their son David was born in 1955
David what you were you born a classic? 1950 daughter Christy was born in 1952 and their son David was born in 1955. David, what
are you were you born? A classic. Why are you were you born? 1956. Oh that was close.
Yeah, that was close. He was nearly my dad. I was going to say you're the same age as my dad.
You look great. Thanks dad is not aged well. Sorry dad. Before the wedding,
Mildred confessed that she had an affair while he was away in the army.
He called the admission, this is later in his life, the most devastating moment of my life.
2006 E true Hollywood story profile. On you have now.
Wow, Jess has done all the research this week. Is all of this E?
It's all E. Click here for the latest Justin Timberlake outfit.
No, I just had to leave that in because I love E true Hollywood stories because it
parodied so often on the Sibsons on every show actually.
Anyway, so in a profile bad hef, he revealed that Mildred allowed him to have sex with other
women out of guilt for her own infidelity and in the hope that it would preserve their
marriage. Oh, that's not nice. She created a monster.
But nobody wants to see us, or no more. They want Shady, I'm trapped. Luba, you set me up for that.
He nodded so smuggly when I did it. I've started this thing at work.
I'm still confused by how bad anyway.
Anytime there's five new people have just started at work and any time any of them say question I go tell them what do you think about me?
Like I and I do it every time so now it's because they're like they do it on purpose
I was gonna say that never say the word question anymore, but if they say if they say can I ask a question or I have a question
Doesn't bother me when they just start with question. I have to sing at him. I don't even like that song
Anyway, you have no-
Was that by scandalous?
Was Disney's child?
The other great
trio
Yes
The other great trio. Oh
Wait, are we one of the great trios? Yeah, we're the third great trio.
We make up the great trio of trios.
I fucking take that.
Oh my god, I take that.
The fourth great trio is the trio of dips,
Hormus, avocado, spicy caps.
What's wrong with you?
Wow, Satsuki didn't even make the top three.
And I've dropped off avocado.
I meant guacamole for starters.
Okay, a trick sure I got point.
Avocado dip is no good. If you ever looked at the ingredients, it's cream cheese 95% avocado half a percent.
It's a real dog of a product.
Not at all deserving to be in the great trilogy.
Should've been too sneaky in there.
Yeah, it's a sneaky. You fucked that up.
Well, I would have if I knew how to say it
I definitely would have said it. And spicy capsicum. Oh, a lot of spicy capsicum. Number one. It was my top three. Yeah.
God, we're good friends. We're very good friends. We can judge friendship based on it. What you put in your top three or dips.
Absolutely. Absolutely. I really like the olive one too. Yeah, olive socks. Really? No, I like olive too, Dave.
And also spicy North African.
You're just such a wanker.
I'll go with capsicum.
Oh, you put up with it, would you?
An a little dip party.
Yeah, but we're invited to, but you turned up anyway.
To be honest, if you're not into it,
don't waste it any self-made.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
That's out.
There's only a small portion there
So please go home
Understood
Okay, I'm gonna tell myself to go on please do go on thank you in January of 1952 Have no left his job as a copywriter for Esquire after it was denied a five-dollar raise
Fair stick to your guns.
I'm looking at this per week or just per year.
Just a one off payment.
Can I have, he just asked the boss,
can I have $5 for a sandwich?
No.
And he said, I fucking quit.
But the boss actually said,
oh, I actually don't have any cash from me.
And it was about to be like,
let's go out together and I'll pay for lunch.
I'll put it on the card.
Yeah, I'll pop it on the card.
I'm gonna max some of the C2. I'll see you two. I've got a cast
Your dinosaur club was just invented. I'm cool and anything you want on the menu don't limit yourself to five and then he quit on the spot because he was
hot-headed
Impulsive but a savvy businessman and I admire that Dave give him another point in the good list
He's got seven
Okay, nothing but I maybe making guilty his wife and Deleting him have sex with other women Dave, give him another point in the good list. He's got seven. Okay.
Oh, maybe you're making...
Guilting is why I'm letting him have sex with other women.
That's the minus.
I don't know if he guilted her.
I feel like she felt guilty and he took advantage of...
She guilted herself.
She guilted herself and he was like,
well, the side effect of her guilt is me getting to have sex with Bays.
Wow, plus three.
Knowing what we know about him,
I'm sure it had nothing to do with him.
Been a weird manipulative dickhead.
No, I think he was just trying to make her feel better.
He was doing it for her. He didn't like it.
I could go.
He didn't want to do it.
Oh, yeah.
And I can maybe we should start the process of getting him canonized.
Okay.
As in, put into a canon and shoot his ashes out into the space.
No, that's with me.
No, Dave doesn't deserve that.
Now we're going to shoot him into Dave's butt.
Pac-a-man.
Pac-a-man.
We're the plastic trousers.
Man, whenever we refer back to old episodes without context, new listeners would find
all of this very bewildered.
That's episode 10. Bloody hell. That's's so long ago but it's still my favorite. If you have
him go back to yourself a favor find out what happens to your body. So good.
That's spoiler alert. Your ass gets packed. With? You have no ashes. Anyway so he
he quits his job because he doesn't get an extra $5.
And the next year, 1953, he took out a mortgage
and he got a bank loan of $600.
And he raised $8,000 from 45 investors,
including $1,000 from his mother to launch Playboy.
And he said about his mother's investment,
not because she believed in the venture, but because she believed in her son
It's beautiful isn't it? It's beautiful. Is that from a Hollywood? It is from a you are correct
This just in you have to his mother believes in son
We'll tell you the top five reasons why Justin Timberlake's mother didn't believe in him right after this
It's good stuff
like his mother didn't believe in him right after this. It's good stuff.
He formed HMH publishing corporation and recruited his friend Eldon Sellers to find investors.
Right now.
Originally they were going to call the magazine Stag Party.
That's fun.
Stag Party.
That's what they call box parties in England I think. Stag Party. Is it? Or is that America? Yeah, like a stag party. That's what they call box parties in England I think. Stag party. Yeah, yes, like a stag do.
And in America they called bachelor parties. What amazing cultural range we have across the
countries. In America they call it spring break for the final time. That's what they call it. Wow, I'll be a tour guide to America.
Okay, great. We're in good hands. The publishers of an unrelated men's adventure magazine,
Stagg, contacted Heffner and informed him that they would file suit to protect their trademark if
he would have launched his magazine with that name. So he'll have known his wife Millie and their mate Sellers met to seek a new name and they considered some of these options
before they chose Playboy. So here's some other options it could have been. Top hat! Love it.
I don't mind Top Hat Magazine. Stag party I reckon would have definitely been a failure.
Yeah Top Hat. Top Hat. Top Hat could have been iconic, I reckon would have definitely been a failure. Yeah top hat top hat top hat could have been iconic
What about gentle man
Gentle man, not gentlemen, gentlemen, and his gentle like in italics and man. It's just straight up
I'm not sure how possibly in bold typography would have been, but here. It's just written as gentlemen
Well, he needs to do more research or just does I don't know yeah
sir written as gentlemen. Well, he needs to do more research. Or gestures, I don't know. Sir? Sir magazine. Sir magazine. Not bad. Get down the shops, pick me up, but copy
a Sir. I think Top Hat's winning for me. Pan? Pan. Peter Pan. Was that suggested by
his secretary? How about we name it after me pan pan oh pan
no name's pan pan pan pan
saying pan or pan should have named it pan I don't yeah that's no good pan that's
that's what you shovel rubbish into it's also what critics do when they don't like something
Pan it was critically paned. They don't pan it do they?
Well, Jess has never been criticized of course, but Matt and I many times have been paned
I know all about pan. Oh, we've been paned. No, that must be awful
Yeah, I'm sorry Jess. Yeah, you're near failure. Any other options?
Bachelor. Bachelor magazine. The Bachelor. So he's gone from stag to what he's gone, what are
people called stag parties in our country? He should have called it Bucks. Bucks and then
sellers was the one who suggested Playboy and then they then they were
Do either of you know who the first
Centerfold was of playboy magazine. Yes, Anna Connacova
Anacorn a very young anacornic over. I do know who it is
Is it Marilyn Monroe? Correct. Oh, it is who is the born in the same year as he was
Anacornic over. Yeah, yeah, she looks really good and was actually quite good at tennis for a age in the same year as he was? Anna Kona Kova. Yeah.
She looks really good.
And it was actually quite good attendance for her age in the 90s.
She was panned.
Because she never won a title.
Yeah, she never won a title.
But she was also in her late 70s at the time.
So quite successful.
Yeah.
People don't often mention that.
What I find funny is that the, yeah, so Marilyn was the first centerfold
She was in there and she was on the cover of the first ever
Playboy magazine the picture that they used was originally taken for a calendar rather than for playboy
It was just a picture that would already existed and they're like we'll have that put that in our magazine
Which is we because people already had the calendar. Yeah, but unlike now you can't just Google any image
Like once that calendar's gone. They're like once it's. It's reuse that because people throw out calendars to not
Not like now where we keep them. Yeah
Got old bloody box full of them and I
Don't know what I'm doing on that day of January 4th 1996. What a great day. What was it an iconic shot?
I I actually I didn't know it was Marilyn Monroe. That was, I don't know why it was, yeah.
That was a guess.
That was a great guess.
I hadn't seen it before, but it's a nude,
so I don't think we probably would have seen
all of that many nudes of Marilyn.
I've seen it.
All right, Matt.
The one I'm thinking of is her getting the air blown up her.
No, she got too way too many clothes.
I would dress.
Air blown up her.
Well. That sounded awful.
Heffner chose what he did to be the sexiest image of Maryland.
And it was her, she was all stretched and she's got one arm up
and she's on like, there's a velvet background
and her eyes are closing and her mouth's open.
That's what he decided was to take a look.
Why, it sounds super hot.
Oh.
That sounds very sexy.
That's so gross.
We should do a side podcast.
It's called, it's called,
just describes porno.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
You got her arm up.
Yep, she looks happy, I guess.
Her mouth's open because she's eating a big sandwich.
It's huge.
And she's getting food everywhere.
It's kind of, but you, it was really in the food,
food porn, early food porn.
And food porn, early days was just porn with food. With food, food porn, early food porn. And food porn, early days, was just porn with food.
With food, yeah.
Having a lasagna whilst getting your baps out.
Baps being small bread rolls.
Yeah.
Which of course goes well with a lasagna.
Delicious, you're gonna have some bread on the side.
I did, I used to do this community TV show in the mornings.
And I knew you weren't allowed to swear, and it was like a on a youth network thing
And I once called I said get your baps out because I was talking about when I went
Traveling in France and on the beach and like yeah, everyone had their baps out
And I got in I got in trouble from the executive producer afterwards. I'm like surely baps
Baps are fine. No, but apparently not. Uh oh, my phone's ringing. Hello, exactly a producer.
Oh, no. That executive producer was having one race.
I was gonna say, was that producer of the guy who's downstairs right now?
He's also not that mad at you. We formed a friendship that lasted through the years.
That's beautiful. At work recently on our like live chat thing, one of my colleagues said,
like, yeah,
sorry, we've been a little bit slammed today and then got in trouble for using the word slammed
because that can be sexual.
What?
I was like, in what universe?
I've never said that.
That's not what can't wait to go home and get slammed.
I've been really slammed today.
Did you write that back to the person?
We're getting slammed today.
You're at back, can't wait to go home and get slammed.
Yes.
That's why the boss was like,
that could be why.
Yeah, I would never have thought about it.
I'm like, that slammed, it just means like,
I always sort of like slammed against the desk
on out of the door.
Oh, slammed against a wall.
I mean, working hard, you know,
you bent over a hard, hard working hard,
groaning at the bloody you nose to the grand stone
Working working. Yeah, working it working
Yeah, okay, um you guys aren't allowed to fly virgin are you?
As a company because
Wait the boss would panic
No, that's what he wants he doesn't want any slam and he's happy with virgins.
Oh, sorry, you can't fly hardcore sex airlines.
Can't, can't do it.
You can't, yeah.
Sex air.
Sex air.
Anyway, back to Marilyn Monroe.
No, just, oh, God.
Having sex air blown up her.
Sex air.
What's the airline name? I know, like what would sex air be? If you're all No doubt about that. That noise. See?
I'm Dustin.
All right, grise.
I hate having this conversation with you guys.
Right, well, we'll get you in here to talk about it instead.
I'm sorry that I did this to you.
Bit of a 94-year-old man talks about it.
It's weird that this you have in the episode led to some gross sex talk.
It is weird, this you have an episode led to some gross sex tool. It is weird isn't it? So they promoted Marilyn Centafold very heavily, lots of promotion about it,
and there was like lots of teases in the market, and it made the new Playboy magazine a huge success.
The first issue sold out in weeks, the known circulation was 53,991 copies were sold.
Does that piss you off?
That's a lot, very much so.
I, yes.
What happened to the nine copies?
Ooh, just fucking sell some more!
Or less.
That's all I'm asking.
Yeah, you're hoping to compromise and I like that.
Yeah, I'm very flexible.
The cover price was 50 cents.
Yeah, tell you what, I lose the lose.
Copies are the first issue that are in mental and near mint
condition sold for over $5,000 in 2002.
$5,000, from 50 cents.
That's pretty good, and that's 15 years ago.
Why don't we get rare and rare?
What a markup.
Here's a little fun fact.
I've got some fun facts in here,
but I've just disperse them throughout the report.
Why so much for the end?
You can enjoy it all now.
Havana, who would never met Marilyn Monroe, bought the crypt next to hers at the Westwood
Village Memorial Park Cemetery in 1992 for $75,000.
Oh man, he's a...
Never met her.
Never met her anyone.
He just wants to be buried next to her.
Buried next to her bones.
Oh, yeah.
Something weird about that.
Surely you want to-
Something weird about everything.
She's probably dust now and we know how much he loves a good old dust.
He loves a dust.
Oh.
So I've got a few, a few kind of, I suppose this is a bit about Playboy and a little bit about Hugh.
Dave.
You said about, do you say, about Dave?
What did you say there?
It's a bit about Playboy and a bit about Hugh.
You're talking about Dave.
That is so good. Fuck you. The regret phase.
I reckon I would have worked better if you said about me. No, about Hugh. Yeah,
that would have worked better. See how Dave's better at jokes. You were looking at
Dave, that's all. He said about Hugh And you were looking at Dave over there.
I should have picked up on that
because I have a friend of work his name is Hugh
and I make those jokes to him all the time.
I think you've already made that joke.
You've talked about Hugh on this part before.
Yeah, you have.
And at the time.
Yeah, he said you used it in a lot of sentences.
Yeah.
And then you used one.
You put a thing of one. And then you go, I hate you. I hate you.
Are we doing fun, don't we? There was a science fiction short story written by
Charles Beaumont and it was called The Crooked Man. And it was rejected by
Esquire magazine in 1955, but heftner agreed to publish a story in Playboy.
The story highlighted straight men being persecuted in a world where homosexuality was the norm.
After the magazine received angry letters, Heffner wrote a response to criticism
where he said, if it was wrong to persecute heterosexuals in a homosexual society, then the reverse was wrong too.
It's weird, it's like a very liberal
person, he's like kind of ahead of the times of the lot of the stuff that he does and then
every now and then you're just like, oh that's not such a bad, oh yeah he so gross.
I still in the positive for me. Okay, that's interesting.
You lost one for the Maryland creeps thing, that's a bit weird.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean a bit, I don't mark him down too crazily for that. It's just knowing that he like, I just read this article recently that was
painted in pretty negatively.
There's a lot that come out.
It's not just Marilyn that's buried in that area.
There's like dozens of really...
No, no, no, no, it's just a hill.
She's buried on top and it was nice and peaceful and then he was like,
come on out in next tier, tuts.
That is, untrue, there were dozens of celebs and it's, you know, Like coming on in next to your tuts. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr God, I'm so sorry to that. People like Dean Martin, you know, really... He's a guy with Dean Kane, see there as well.
Yeah, the original, toward the original, the best Superman.
The best Superman.
And best Ripley's believe it or not, host we've ever had.
Wow, that's a big call.
A big, big call.
That was a huge call.
Okay, well let's see how you feel about this. I don't really
understand. In 1970 you have stated that militant feminists are unalterably opposed to the
romantic boy girl society that playboy promotes and ordered a hit piece in his magazine against them.
So now it's against feminists. Yeah. Which is fair because they probably don't really like what he does.
True. Millicent feminists. Millicent feminists.
And they don't like the boy girl. What does what don't they like?
They don't like the romantic boy girl society that play boy promotes.
Play boys all that romance you guys.
Yeah, that's what I think a lot of people miss.
Yeah.
Is it's about romance and treating women as objects.
It's very romantically gross and that's nice. I think so.
Yep. In 1959 this will surprise you. Hugh Hefner and his wife Millie got divorced.
Really? I know. She wasn't letting him sleep with enough women on the side.
We, isn't it? Out of guilt. Very strange. He remade himself as a man about town. A lifestyle
he promoted in his magazine and two TV shows that he hosted. Playboys, Penthouse and Playboy
after Dark. I like it when they're after Dark. So that's when they really get adult. None of that PC, PCPG.
That's when they have the night vision.
You know, at least had big brother up late.
Yeah, and they watched a lot of that.
Did you?
I had a phone that the deal was like,
they had big brother just streamed live 24 hours a day on it.
And I would watch that going to sleep sometimes.
Just what am I doing with my life?
Having anything that would put you to sleep quicker than watching people do.
That was kind of the idea but you just be like, I don't know, it was mesmerizing.
It was in uni days, I had no real thing to get up for in the morning but from higher education.
Which we're putting to use.
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Oh, I'm not worried.
Anyway, so now he's a man about town.
He admitted to being involved.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
I want to say involved.
Maybe when he finished his sentence.
Involved.
I think I know what you mean.
With maybe 11...
Student theatre.
Out of 12 months worth of playmates
during some of these years.
Imagine being the one who doesn't get fuck by you.
But also, I'm-
What's with me?
Hugh, come on!
I'm actually Hugh, I'm great!
Seriously, I'm good enough for the cover, Hugh.
That annoys me a lot too, because 11, just do one more.
Just do one more?
Or one less?
Take August off.
Have you ever heard humans be measured in months before?
Yeah, it's nice. 12 months of women months were months were yeah, it's nice isn't it? I've owned a bloody months were the women
Thank you. I think I'm starting to understand what you meant by involved oh
In is he still...
He's vulva.
Very good.
Is he still with Millie?
No, they took a divorce.
Do pay attention, Matthew.
I, yeah, no, I caught that.
Yeah, look, I mean, you were...
Yeah, it's a tricky one, right?
People are all out of bone.
Right.
Yeah.
Ugh. I've been 11 out of bone. Right? Yeah.
A bit of liven out of 12 months worth of playmates?
It's a, yeah, that's probably not a good sign.
Not great.
That he's probably using his power in kind of full on ways.
Maybe? I don't know.
In 1971, he established a second residency in Los Angeles
with the acquisition of the Playboy Mansion and in 1975
Move their permanently from Chicago. It's just so lucky that he happened to buy a house that was already called the Playboy Mansion
It's so convenient. It's like when we buy the Dugo on...
Palace.
Palace, we decided that the O's have little grottoes in them.
Yeah, which is a very hiff.
Yeah, and we get a grotto each too, which is nice.
Mm-hmm. And we get 11 out of 12 months each
That was before
Did had you ever thought like because I I never really thought much about it me the way
I just knew it was an iconic guy. I never thought but it was only after he died that
Started saying that I don't know maybe in my my particular online bubble that I existed.
It was a lot of negativity.
I wonder if other people don't feel that way.
I'm not sure.
I do see a lot of people praising him.
I will say.
In other news.
For being progressive.
For his time.
That's the way some people framed it.
Yeah.
And yeah, I think a lot of articles have come out that are kind of like,
it was really trapping in the that you know how you had three
Three girlfriends at a time and they they weren't allowed to leave
Yeah, seven at one point right and that and he sort of guilted them into having sex with them and suffer some of these stories have come out
So they had like allowances and they had to have um
Like breast implants and
It was really it's quite gross. Look I'm going to put that a couple and the negative there.
Interesting.
Just a couple.
Interesting.
In 1985 he had a minor stroke at the age of 59.
Alright, back in the positive.
After reevaluating his lifestyle.
Positive.
He made several changes.
Why did he do what they are before?
The wild, online parties were toned down significantly, and in 1988 his daughter
Christy took over the operation of the Playboy Empire.
Oh, the daddy's proud.
Oh, nepotism.
The following year he married Playmaid of the year, Kimberly Conrad.
They were 36 years apart in age.
Nothing wrong with that?
Age is just a number. I think is she
younger than his actual daughter? Probably. Yeah, you didn't mention if she was older or younger.
36 years different. She's older. She's four hundred years old. No, she's 36 years younger and
they had two sons, Maaston Glen, after his middle name and his father,
Master and Glen and Cooper Bradford.
So they were born in 1990, 1991, so they were our age.
No one got Lucius.
No one got Lucius.
The second one was good, the first one was the worst
of both words.
Master and Glen.
Yeah, that's good.
Master and Hepna.
Ugh.
And Cooper Hepna.
What's that?
Master and short, Master.
Marty.
Marty. Cooper. They really have to do some pretty big augmentation of that name. and Cooper Hepner. What's that? What So according to a source that I haven't-
He knew!
Eat true Hollywood story. They noted that the notorious
playboy mansion was then transformed into a family-friendly home-stead.
After he and Conrad separated in 1998, she moved into her house next door
to the mansion. So she had her own mini mansion next door,
convenient.
That's a night.
So obviously that split was pretty alright.
Yeah, it seems to be, I think so.
How about his first wife?
Who knows where she is.
I think she also lived on the property.
Really?
In a small house.
So it looks after his wife.
For the rest of her days, I believe.
So he's, okay.
Assuming they're allowed to leave.
He's just collecting women. Oh, yeah
So it sort of sounds like yeah, he's collecting 11 out of 12 women. Sorry. Yes. Thank you
He he became known for an ever-changing line-up of young women who
lived and hung out in the Playboy Mansion including twins Sandy and Mandy Bentley
out in the Playboy Mansion, including Twins, Sandy, and Mandy Bentley. He dated as many
as seven women at once at one point, but then he was like, ugh, it gets too caddy. It gets too competitive when you have seven of them. Let's max out at three. So for a long time,
he had three girlfriends. They were in the show that was called Girls Next All, but I'm pretty
sure here it was called Girls of the Playboy Man.
Yeah, I used to watch a few episodes of that.
I watched it all the time.
It was very popular, wasn't it?
Yeah, so you had Holly Bridget and Kendra, and they were so different those three. Good
heavens. Holly always called her, her baby Puffin, which was weird, but she would say,
like, baby Puffin! And I hated her. I hated her so much. Puffins are the birds whose beaks fall off. which was weird, but she would say like baby pufferrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Is that Sir Tseerys also on E? About the live at the Playboy Mansion, which seemed fun I guess.
Wow, what was happening in that episode?
Someone in the grotto, alright.
Yeah, something's getting a bit...
Grotto, the word is so good.
Grotto.
Grotto, what a grotto.
But it's such a nice thing.
Grotto is beautiful. Grotto. The word grotto. But it's such a nice thing. Grotto is beautiful. Grotto.
Grotto.
Grotto.
Yeah.
Anyway, in October of 2008, all three of those girls,
Holly Bridget and Kendra all decided to leave the mansion.
And after an 11-year separation,
Heffner filed for divorce from Conrad,
citing irreconcilable differences.
So he's just had a string of girlfriends living at the house with him while still technically married
They found that hard to reconcile over
Interesting
He stated that he only remained nominally married to her for the sake of the children and his youngest child had just
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which reached store shelves and customers homes within a few days
of the wedding, featured Harris on the cover, and in the photo spread as well.
And the headline on the cover read introducing America's princess, Mrs.
Crystal Hefner.
Oh, did they have time to pull it?
But no.
So that...
I bet some people had time to pull it.
Yeah, most people that have subscribed to play by did not even notice the headline
They got back together and were married. I think a couple years later in 2014
So so they did get married so they they just reprint that issue. I don't know does anyone buy
Play so people that that's still a magazine that's a physical magazine?
Who buys any magazines now? I don't understand.
Yeah, he's saying...
I guess yeah, where do you say them at the airport?
magazines.
You're not buying Playboy to read on the plane, are you?
No, that'll be a bold move, I reckon.
Yeah!
Stop strangers from talking to you though.
Yeah, that's true.
Slap down a copy of Playboy.
Slap it, slap it down, and up and down.
Absolutely slammed.
This issue with Playboy.
In January of 2016, so just last year,
the Playboy Mansion was put on the market for $200 million
on the condition that Hugh Hefner would continue
to work and live in the mansion.
Later that year, it was sold to Darren Metropolis, who's the principal at a private equity firm for a hundred million,
so half. Good discount. Yeah, and he planned to connect the Playboy Mansion property with
a neighbouring estate that he'd also purchased and just have this giant three acre compound
of his own. You see like some of a Greek billionaire, I think. So they're with a lot.
He wouldn't get access to it, so Hefner just wanted to, did he hit financial trouble,
Hef? Yeah. Right, because no one's buying his magazine anymore. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, I was wrong before when I said they got my own 2040, they got my like the next year
after they broke up. So they sort of had a tiff in 2011 said they got my own 2040. They got my own like the next G after they broke up. So they sort of had a teeth in 2011, they got my own 2012.
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into the man the myth of legends, but what is Playboy?
That's a very good question.
Dave, what is Playboy?
What is Stag Party?
Exactly.
What is Stag Party?
So I want to talk a little bit about Playboy itself and it's Rise and Fall and then I'll
wrap up a little bit too. It'll rise it's Rise and Fall and then I'll wrap up a little
bit too. It'll rise again at the end that right?
In a way. With Viagra. Thank you. Yes, very good.
I thought Dave was going to do it and he didn't and he made me so thank you very much.
He made you do it. Yeah, he made me do it. He made you Rise and Fall.
Yep. He roofed me with a Viagra. And I've been bloody rock hard
mentally for hours. They've used to stimulate me mentally, mentally. That's beautiful. Thank you.
Anyway, so Playboy. Obviously notable for its centrefolds of noots and semi-nood.
Have you ever bought a Playboy magazine? No.
Because it's neither of I.
It feels like, you know, something that, like,
the tough 14-year-old, you know, when you're 13 or something,
the tough kid comes to school with a Playboy magazine or something.
Did they found in the bushes?
Yeah, but who's actually buying, who ever bought them?
Yeah.
I think it was Dad's.
Maybe Dad's.
Oh, Hornie Dad's.
I think it was Hornie Dad's.
The only time I ever heard about it was, like, kids going, they found their dad's horny dad. I think it's horny dad's the only time I ever heard about it was like kids going they found
They found their dad's stash of actually there was one kid at school, but maybe was hustler or something you found his dad's stash of corners
Yeah, and it now it seems like touch that yeah
That's real weird dad
Yeah, anyway, dad's dad's
Oh!
Yuck, anyway. Dad.
Dad's.
Dad's can't wink, alright?
New rule.
Yeah.
No winking dad's.
I think it's a very good rule.
No winking dad's.
I think that's a very good rule.
Dad's out there.
So if you're a dad?
Do as Dave says.
Hand off it.
Get off it, no.
I know there are people out there who do use our podcast,
those stimulation.
They love a little mental stimuli.
Not bad. Oh, facts. No. podcast as stimulation they love a little mental stimuli
Oh, facts. No, I just listened to the podcast for the articles
Just their voices are so sweet
But if you're a dad do as I do not as I say no, don't go around do as I say it not as I do Do you wink to podcast as a dad? Yes, as a dad. That's wink to podcasts? As a dad, yes.
As a dad.
As a dad, too.
As a busy dad.
I like to multitask.
I have to wake on the go.
Oh, buses, trains, and my cubicle.
And the employment office, because I got fired.
For waking up the cubicle.
You can wink in a toilet cubicle,
but on an office cubicle, this world is very hard to understand.
What's the difference?
Even waking in a toilet cubicle at work is probably an appropriate reckon.
Is it?
No!
That's fucking gross.
Why are you always going to the John?
Oh no.
Anyway, playboy played an important role in the sexual revolution and remains one of the best,
uh, the world's best known brands have been grown into playboy enterprises incorporated
with the presence in nearly every medium.
Was it a violent revolution?
Yeah.
How many people lost their heads?
Splacid, in a way.
I hated myself for that one.
Gillotine the prude!
Hahaha!
In addition to the flagship magazine of the United States,
special nation-specific versions of Playboy published worldwide.
I'm sure I've seen a Playboy magazine with a girl in an Australian flag bikini,
so that makes sense.
Yeah, she goes too right.
Hahaha.
On your cover.
On your cover.
Check out these baps. You are Glyn Mett.
Glyn Mett. You are Glyn Mett baps. Yeah, good on you. All right.
The magazine has a long history of publishing short stories by notable novelists such as
Arthur C. Clarke, Ian Fleming, Roll Dal and Margaret Atwood. Like that roll Dal's been
published in Playboy. I love that a lot.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory looks at some bats.
And there was also like lots of quite famous cartoonists. I mean I didn't recognize their names,
but I've got a golden dinger. I've got a golden dinger.
Dinger's such a funny and awful way.
Oh, yeah. Ding is such a funny and awful way.
Good on it, good on it.
Am I featured monthly interviews of notable public figures such as artists, architects,
economists, composers, conductors, film directors, journalists, novelists, playwrights,
religious figures, politicians, athletes, and race car drivers.
Wow. You want it, yeah?
Boobs, boobs, so unarticle with an interview with the Pope.
Oh, now someone else is free now.
Can you imagine being at a press conference
with something quite serious?
I was just like, I just pegged the Playboy magazine.
Playboy magazine.
Do you plan to hit your baps out or should I leave?
We have a photographer here who's got a huge erection.
Must become numb to it, right?
Playboy photographer?
Surely.
It'll do all that business, you know, like, no, not the right photo.
Move a little bit, you know?
Yeah.
It's about art for them, they're artists.
That's true, yeah, I forgot that.
After a year-long removal of most nude photos in Playboy magazine,
the March, April 2017 issue brought back nudity.
Yeah, I remember there was a big announcement, right? They said we're getting rid of nudity.
Getting rid of full frontal nudity.
So was it still bikini-
No, go ahead.
Clad women or?
Yeah, they still went.
No, but they could be no bit from the side
It's interesting. I guess because they must be like what's the what's the point of us now in the internet age exactly right
That's like the argument that that any sex act is available
That's it like one one of the chief executives was saying like you can Google anything and and look at it
So we're more about more about the articles now. I love how we explain Google you can Google anything and and look at it. So we're more about we're more about the
articles now. I love how we explain Google. You can Google anything and look at it. Look at it.
I just explained it to the CEO. Sorry boss, I've got to show you something. This is how Google works.
Oh my god. We'll be ruined. What happens after you've Googled it though? So as long as people don't
look at it, no that's that's what happens then they can look at it. Oh, no, we're ruined.
How many people know about this?
In June 2009, the magazine reduced its publication schedule
to 11 issues per year.
So he was like, I could just take them on thought.
Yeah, they combined July and August.
You still want to 11 out of 11.
And then due to significant losses in the company's value,
down from 1 billion in the year 2000 to 84 million in 2009
Whoa, yeah, that's a big drop. It's a 92% drop
I hope he sold at the top there the playboy publishing empire was up for sale for 300 million in
December 2009 they further reduced the publication schedule to 10 issues per year with a combined January February. Oh you would have loved that. 10 is fine. 10 wanks a year is enough.
I'm being very reasonable. Wow. What's the very economical with your wanks?
One per magazine. You got a time I'm right. Now give it back.
time I'm right now give it back.
Yeah, so in October of 2015 is what we touched number four,
who's touched on gross playboy announced that starting with their March of 2016.
You become very British.
I can't say anything without your boss coming in being like a
kind of that kind of language around here because this has made me
Yeah, well, finally there was someone to blame for this topic.
This was all right. Well, good call. Um, the playboy CEO Scott Flanders, he acknowledged
that the magazine's inability to compete with freely available internet porn and nudity
was the reason that they stopped full frontal nudity in their magazine. And now he says,
this is what he actually said, you're now one click away from every sex act Act imaginable for free. And so it's just passay at this juncture
Okay
So they redesigned playboy however, they'd still feature playmate of the month and pictures of women
But they'd be rated as not appropriate for children under 13
This didn't affect playboy plus comm which features nudity at a paid subscription,
of course. And then Josh Horowitz of Quartz argued that the motivation for the decision
to remove nudity from the magazine was to give Playboy licensing a less deviant image
in India and China, where the brand is a really popular item on a parlor. So they're like, if we seem less dirty to that market, we can sell more merch.
Oh, wow. That's pretty clever. Because yeah, that bunny symbols pretty iconic. Yeah.
If not for just like, personalised number plates and fluffy mirror accoutrements, that's
not the right use that word Where does it? So then in
February 2017 they dropped, they brought back nudity and admitted that the dropping of the nudity
had been a mistake. What a thing to admit. This is so good. The announcement was made by the
company's chief creative officer on Twitter with the hashtag hashtag naked is normal
okay thanks thanks for that. It's also just been introduced how Twitter works. Yeah hashtag
okay how about um naked is normal. Don't check if it's been used before. I like it. It's catchy.
Few little fun facts here for you. The best selling Playboy edition was the November of 1972 edition, which sold 7161,561 copies.
That's a lot of random.
A quarter of all American college men were buying or subscribing to the magazine every month.
Was it because of an icon? No, so it's not the peak of just the peak of it being a legitimate thing to do. Yeah, and this is really fun in
1970 Playboy became the first gentleman's magazine to be printed in Braille. I
Love the I love the euphemisms gentleman's magazine. Yeah, not such a gentleman's magazine
Like I like top hat all those things I'll try to do. It's for gentlemen. Oh, it's a gentleman
You know, it's a very classy sort of face, you know, to me, we just have a man on one race showing a bap, you know, it's a very
delicate sort of, you know, it's not not anyone, not a scummy boy, scummy boy, it's could be in here,
no, no, no, no, this is very, very classy. Our baps are worth millions. I'm just making a cigar right now.
Yeah, that's right.
And a pop at the same time.
Chess is going to let me keep going.
And she's quite a fan of sort of letting me dig a hole.
And she's really trying to test me out here.
And I think I'm definitely making her regret letting me go
because I will just keep talking and she will eventually come in and I assume.
And Bo-Miao, this is a real, a real game of chicken we've got on our hands.
Anyway, so we mentioned the logo, the Playboy logo, the bunny you mentioned, that just before, man.
The mascot, which is a stylized silhouette of a rabbit wearing a tuxedo bow tie.
Very close.
Very close.
And nothing else.
Baps on display.
It was created by Playboy Art Director, Art Paul.
His name's Art Paul.
Fuck, that's cool.
His name was Art Paul, it would be even more impressive.
It was actually just he created it for the even more impressive. So that's right.
It was actually just he created it for the second issue,
just as an end note, but it was adopted as the official logo
and has appeared ever since.
It was a running joke in the magazine that a running joke
in the magazine involves hiding the logo somewhere
in the cover art or photography.
What a fun joke.
That is a fun.
That is funny too.
Fun and funny.
He often said he chose Robert for its humorous sexual connotation because the image was frisky and playful.
It's very frisky.
It was a frisky bunny.
And a gentleman.
We know it a tuxedo.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
I hate what I was doing there.
I read an article that was originally published in 2011, it was republished after
Heff had died and this writer Camilla Long did not hold back and I loved it.
The way that she talked about Heffness, she went into the playboy mansion and was just like,
it's now what was probably the 70s and even through the 80s, this place of glamorous, big parties and just like drugs
and alcohol and all sorts of parties. It's now just looking really worn and old and
decrepit and gross. And I've got...
Similar to.
Yeah, well I've got... I want to read a part of this for you that talks about Hugh.
It says,
Hefs suddenly fill for your sides
and one of his least cozy attributes.
One minute he's all rock pools and mermaids.
The next it's old Mr. Sticky fingers.
Posing quietly for photographs of me,
he asked whether it's polite that he should be sitting when I'm standing.
Not out of courtesy as it turns out,
but because otherwise he bellows to the entire crew.
I'll be staring at her tits.
Little creepy old man.
And this is only five years ago, six years ago.
Mm-hmm.
Then he laughs like a donkey.
And when I head on to the topic of sex,
he instantly suggests you're looking for an invitation, aren't you?
Before telling me my notes, we'll get soggy in the jacuzzi.
He just sounds like someone who's trying to play this character and it's really
yuck. It's just like, you want me to be that sex-crazed guy from the 70s? Okay, I'll still try that in my late 80s.
No, hef, yuck. No, stop it! In fact, he leaps on any innuendo with demonic hunger, like a kind of
sexual metal detector, always on the prowl for a pulse. He loves telling me the greatest number of people he's slept with at the same time as 12.
So much for the special emotional connection he keeps going on about.
And makes it clear if he weren't settling down with Crystal,
he'd happily have a crack at a best friend Anna, before he was married.
So why is he settling down with Crystal? Out of pity hilariously.
And this is a quote, because she, you know,
deserves it, he chortles. She deserves to be my widow.
Oh, what an honor! What an absolute privilege.
I know what to make of that.
You have to die at his home in Home Beheels Los Angeles on September 27, 2017. Ah, 17,
27, that's hard to say. At the age of 91, before his death he'd planned for a commotion and for his ashes to be
interred at Westwood Memorial Park in Los Angeles in the crypt beside Maryland Monroe.
Heftner told the Los Angeles Times in 2009, spending eternity next to Maryland is an
opportunity too sweet to pass up.
Oh, I hope you're enjoying it, half.
Hope you're enjoying it.
You create BL fuck.
Yeah!
Yeah, he certainly...
He was in the positives until that last three paragraphs.
That's what got you.
It just seems like a caricature.
I'm sorry to have done that. And a gross one. But I mean, it's still loving more hate. I mean, incredible life.
Yeah. It does like it always I think people who just live in a weird fantasy
land for a long time just lose track of reality, seemingly, and just become real weirdos. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty...
Not to give him excuses, but I think, yeah, he just would not have known what real life
was.
Especially after all those drug parties.
Oh, so gross.
Like, amazingly, lips being in his mid-90s.
91.
Oh, is it 91?
91.
And he was just always in his little silk PJs
Because he's the same same as my grandma and that's what always made me
Freak out you know and the queen then the same. Yep, same age
Which is like so we and David attenborough and you're like wow so many good people
The queen our grandparents and David at bruh
the Queen, our grandparents. And David had brought.
You have now.
Anyway, so yeah, that's the end of my report,
but you have now.
And that's bummed me out a little bit
because he's kind of gross.
I think we should now spend some time thanking
some people who definitely not gross,
who are awesome, lovely people.
How does that work?
I saw all the people that support the show.
Thank you very much for your report, by the way, Jess.
I thought that was very good.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I think anything that is heavily leaning on the e-news as a source is gonna be good quality
And anything that makes the reporter go, uh, frequently, that's a good report. Which both the report did that, so did Dave and so did I, and yourself. It was...
I could gross myself out. We all learn.
I mean, look forward to hearing the top five reasons why Justin Timberlake's marriage may not be what it seems.
Who wants to kick it off with their
Patreon? That's why we'd like to thank the people that support us over at patreon.com slash do go on pod
Basically, if you support if you love the show you listen every week and you want to chip in to keep us going
You can head over to our patreon page and for a little bit per month you get some rewards in exchange
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episode that we do every month if you support a certain tier and we also like to thank a
couple of people each by name at the end of the episode and Matt's got a couple of names
on the tip of his tongue.
I was thinking Dave you're very good at giving little titles to people or whatever and
I was thinking maybe this week you could give everyone a porn name.
Oh I was thinking even like a miss and the month.
Oh, there you go.
Horror names better.
Is it?
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
All right, we'll give it a go.
Well, I've just got two of the radis names you'll come across.
I'd love to thank from California, which is also where the second palace was.
The playboy mansion?
Mansion, sorry.
Victor Quintero. It's got to be Dicta. Oh great perfect
Sorry, five five dicks
Queen
Vicky five dicks
What a dickie five dickie five dicks
Yeah, come on man. Sorry
Dicky five dicks, which is actually a six dick about five finger dick count
Five finger no dick count
It's like this popping good discount. Oh, I didn't even get where you go
Just now I just think it you making up a phrase well, Jess isn't very smart and she like,
she takes that out on me sometimes with real,
real negative blocks.
Real negative blocks.
Who's up next with that in our corner?
Nick Figaro.
Dick Figaro.
Yeah.
Dick Fingaro.
Good laugh on that one from Jess.
Fingaro, Fingaro, Fingaro. Finger off, finger off, finger off.
That's fun.
Matt, have a go.
I'm gonna whisper him to Dave and then we'll get it laugh at a Jess for a very similar joke.
And he's from New Jersey.
New Jersey.
So thank you so much Nick and Victor.
Dicky and Dicky.
Dave, do you want to thank some peeps?
I would like to thank from S-Sex.
Emphasis on Sex there.
Yeah, I got it.
We've got Jordan Elma.
Jordan Elma.
Jordan Elma.
What are you going to do with this one?
What about you, Matt?
Do you want to crack?
There's no, I would not put myself through the indignity
of trying to riff with Jess in the room.
I'm ready to shoot you down there Jess,
so I'm looking forward to seeing what you have to say.
What did I do?
No.
Stop.
Stop.
Okay, no, I didn't do that.
You did that every week, and it always makes me feel like shit.
Can we talk about this off the podcast?
No.
I'm just going to stick with SX.
Yeah.
Sorry, good.
Very good.
And from a liver pool.
A how like a grotto.
That's a favorite accent.
Ben Wittingham.
Okay.
Shittingham.
Ben Shittingham. Ben shitting ham.
Ten shitting ham.
Ten dick shitting ham.
Okay.
That's a poor, that's in every niche.
That's true. That's true.
Very niche, poor, not one.
Hey, where there's a will, there's a way.
I'm sorry.
Okay, thank you to Ben.
Thank you, Ben. Thank you to Jordan.
Thanks Ben Jordan. Two English people supporting the show. It's amazing. Good support from England. Thank you.
I had a couple of Americans. Look at that.
I'm after two Australians.
Very good. So the Olympics of podcast, thanks.
Well, from West Wadonga.
Oh, there you go. Right.
Oh, yeah, good. I was like, why is he laughing?
But as Matt said, I'm not very bright.
I was being mean unnecessarily there. Just Matt said, I'm not very bright.
I was being mean unnecessarily there just of course you're very bright. Can we be friends? I was just lashing out. No, I'm sorry. I said no. I didn't get it and that made me feel vulnerable
And then I took that out on you and that's not fair. I'm sorry about that. I'd really like to be your friend
Can I have a chip that you just got?
You just got some chips that I want to chip to I'd like to hear about the dong please from westward dong Lucas Gunan
Poon and you definitely didn't get that all through high school did he?
Poon and
I right in Lucas. I bet you never got Poon and I bet you never got asked Poon
I bet you never got Poonan. Luke, Luke asked Poonan.
Now we're just bullying.
We're not even having fun with our listeners.
We're just picking on them.
Thanks so much for supporting us, your dickheads.
Yeah, now that's a good point.
This is taking an arse to turn.
Change it up, Jess.
He give him a Mr. something month.
He's Mr. September, baby.
That's where you want to be.
That's where it's just under turned to springtime.
So you still got a little jacket on, but it's re-warmed.
Thanks, Poonin. Thank you, Lugus. And from Melville, West
in Australia, I would love to thank Courtney Butterskir.
But. Oh, yeah, okay, great. Butts in there. Courtney Butts.
Husker. I will point out that most porn stars don't use a, like a pun or a parody of But oh, yeah, okay great buts in there Courtney but his good
I will point out that most porn stars don't use to like a pun or a parody of their own name
My parents will never find out my secret my secret career if I just change my name to David porn a key
Oh, Jess Gerkens
That's good on Matt blubert
Sure did that's all good stuff saw good stuff,. But thank you Courtney. Courtney and Lucas thank you so
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So good, I love reading those.
I haven't done that in a while, I should go on and have a
read.
It is nice, especially the nice ones, I will say.
Interesting, you make that point.
You don't like the bad ones.
I like them all, but especially the nice ones.
Especially the nice ones.
One of the people sneaking like a pun or some sort of reference to an episode in the
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The next week is it the best reporter on the pod next week?
Pornicky himself?
It is Pornicky.
I wasn't going to arrogantly say, do you mean me?
Because I knew it was me who was doing your report, but I didn't want to.
Well, no, but we've put very publicly said you're the best.
Many, many times.
Thank you very much.
Well, I've already put it to a Patreon vote,
and I know what I'm gonna report on.
Ooh, I didn't know until yesterday.
It's.
That's the difference, Dave.
It's a full-cheater.
He's not even gonna wait till someone dies.
He's just gonna choose someone.
What if I told you that there is already a few deaths?
Next week's episode.
But you'll have to tune in next week to find out,
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