Two In The Think Tank - 104 - Roald Dahl

Episode Date: October 18, 2017

Roald Dahl is one of the most beloved children's writer's of the 20th century, but his life involved much more than writing for children - including flying planes in WWII, writing films, a family life... full of tragedy and being an anti-semite.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On With Me. Dave Warnocky and then match to it and just Okay, how do you do and then oh until you said okay? I didn't realize that he ranked us there sort of is that Okay, and then oh them okay, yeah them so it's me versus you It was it was ranking us seriously. You want to go against us. I reckon you want to go up
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh my god. You what a fucking idiot You want to go up and oh my god you what a fucking idiot You serious you want to go up against us. Yeah, yeah The sassiest and the second sassiest people on this podcast. She's joking. You can't take on the might of the sass twins Sass twins Yeah, I was bluffing and you called me. It's a real rank thing there too isn't it because it's like day up top And then those two shit hits yeah, then the rest. The bottom. Is that what you feel Dave? Now I love you guys not really sorry and I don't want to fight because I'll lose. Otherwise I would want to fight. I just put it on the record. Okay interesting choice. That's smart I guess. And the
Starting point is 00:02:17 Sass twins win again. Classic Sass. Classical Sass. Which is Zelda like the name of a song. A great song. And the similarities end there. We're all big fans of classical gas. Yes. Mason Williams. Well, I'm more a fan of the bit in the Simpsons where when he requests classical gas. Play classical gas! Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D- Anyway, let's get into the report for this week. Now it's Mr. Matt's turn to report.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I've only called me Mr. Matt. Together. You were joking downstairs before about everyone else going out for beers on this Thursday night and us having to come up here and do a school report. So you are going to be Mr. Matt this week. And to get us on topic, because Matt has written a report that just and I don't know what it's about, he's going to ask us a question. All right, question time.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So my question to you is, it's very self-referential. So you guys are probably in a quite a good position to be able to answer this, but also. Is the answer Dave? Or Jess? Fuck, all right, well, if you're gonna get it before even, today's episode is about David and Jess. Yay!
Starting point is 00:03:40 legit, been requested on multiple occasions. My favorite subjects. The question today is Who's life story so it's so much a person whose life story includes connections to do go on favorite topics like World War One the Academy Awards Walt Disney Queen Elizabeth the second and James Bond how Some of them are tenuous. Hahaha. They're alive at the same time as many of these things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Is it the same that everyone in that sentence was alive in the 20th century, just like everyone in this room? Yes. No, no, there's no, some grazers and some like deep, deep involvements. So they're probably English, maybe? All right, let me, let me,
Starting point is 00:04:28 narrow it down a little bit, which authors life story includes connections to World War II, the Academy Awards, Walt Disney Queen Elizabeth II and James Bond. It's a tough one, I imagine you wouldn't get it. What if I threw in Cadbury chocolate? Wanker, no. You were with the author.
Starting point is 00:04:49 With the role of Roll-Doh. It is Roll-Doh. Ah! I'm giving the point a gest there. Yeah, because I said Wonker. And Wonker was kind of based a little bit on Roll-Doh and she was probably. Actually, I was just calling Matt a wanker,
Starting point is 00:05:02 and I misspoke, but don't tell him lucky. I got on over this one That's rolled down roll down very cool You gonna go through and tick off all these references. I think yeah, I will I I'm created that question as I was writing the report I'm like oh another one roll down that's a striking name. Yeah, it's a striking name rolled rolled is that his birth name? I did his striking name. This is a striking name. Rolled. Rolled. Is that his birth name? That is his birth name, yeah. This topic, but you know that, J. I did know that. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, fuck you. You're a real wucker. Oh, fuck off. Oh, get fucked. Oh, come on, fuck you. Fuck. This topic was... This topic was to the internet.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I've looked up things before, fuck off. Topic was suggested by Harry Green via email. Also someone who goes by the name me at Yjink Scrawler. Andy C.T. at Super Andy 83, Kevin Flanagan via email, and also Oscar Ed, 51 at Oscar Ed, 51. Very popular request. It was quite a popular request. It was quite a popular request. Rolled down was born in Landaaf, a district in Cardiff Wales on the 13th of September 1916. Parents were Norwegian born, Sophie and Harold, and he was named after Norwegian
Starting point is 00:06:19 explorer Rolled Amundsen. Oh the first one to get to the South Pole. Yes. That's true. He's the best ever man. I know that too. Is that another that I could call that another connection to maybe what oh and then when you say another connection it's another rainbow connection. Muppets. Muppets. Here we go. All right. We're gonna rack up a bunch here today. If We're going we're going that I'll find a way I'll find a way all right. I want you to link it to all 104 episodes you got it including the one about roll dial Which would be easier? His sister's had similarly unique names sisters. Okay, um who that we've reported on has Clear Patra Marie Curie.
Starting point is 00:07:05 There we go. Fuck yeah. Well, this is gonna get tedious. Yeah. And that, you know, that had pretty unique names for Welsh children as well. Astry, Elffield and Elf's. Elf's. E-L-C-E-S-E.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Is that Elf's? What else? Elf's probably Elf's. Elf's, Elf's, Elf's. Yeah, yep. As a child, Norwegian was Darl's first language, Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Elsie. Astrid died from appendicitis at only seven years of age. Yeah. Who, Danny? In his autobiography. It was also once seven years old.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Also had the problem with his appendix, remember? That's why any died. Oh. Do you remember that episode? Yeah, I do. It was my fault. I do. Yeah, I do remember that episode, Dave.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Fuck off. Can I ask from Moratorium on tedious links? Maybe just note them down and at the very end give us all 104 points. This is interesting isn't it? Then he wants us to stop interrupting and let him do his report instead of jumping in with references to things that nobody cares about like, oh I don't know football clubs or bands. It is draft period at the moment, I felt and you have a science. Sorry to cut you off them up, but if you could just go on with your report. Just to remind you, what you interrupted there was me telling you about Roldole's seven-year-old sister, Dying. Yes. Which reminds me of a famous
Starting point is 00:08:37 magician. In his autobiography, Dahl later wrote that Astry was far and away my father's favorite. That's me being him. That's why I said, my, I think. Soon after a death. Soon after a death. It's with eachose that one is your favorite Dal. For an up man. For an up man.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Soon after a death, struggling with grief, his father Harold Dal passed away from pneumonia. Dal wrote, my father refused to fight, so he died. Brutal review from a three-year-old. Yeah. I mean, he wrote that later on. I know, but like too. It was like, come on, Dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Spoonful of concrete. How'd the fuck up? Well, he was just saying it was so heartbroken from his... I know, I get what he's saying, but it's a brutal thing for him to say. I think when, as a three year old you lose your dad and your your older sister you probably end up being I don't know I don't make excuses for the man but you probably learnt learn to hide your emotions a bit or something. I don't know what I'm talking about like I understand the world what a fucking waste of space I am. Yeah. Yeah, no, we're not arguing with that.
Starting point is 00:09:47 We got the concrete over here, man. SAS queens are turning on each other. No, sorry, Maddie. After considering moving back to Norway to be close to the family, Dahl's mom decided to stay in Wales to make sure her children received a British education, which her husband believed to be the best quality in the world. Rold was sent her to many different schools. He initially studied at the Landfk
Starting point is 00:10:09 Cathedral school, but after causing mischief playing practical jokes, he copped a beating from the principal and was transferred to St. Peter's boarding school, which he fucking hated. Fucking hated it. It was real tough. Then he was transferred to a higher-achieving private school named Repton Didn't have a good time there either. He's he did not enjoy the school system. It was just pretty brutal and Pretty rough. Anyway, according to his autobiography his friend Michael copped a huge canning by the headmaster Jeffrey Fisher a Michael canning Michael canning hello headmaster Jeffrey Fisher Michael Caining Michael Caining hello oh um we're in the shell you're your or us oh okay whipping your rocks he knows
Starting point is 00:10:55 your next so Jeffrey Fisher went on to become his his headmaster went on to become the Archbishop of Canterbury. Oh, which I guess you could relate back to King Henry, yeah, because he sort of started the religion that he's the head of anyway. Tenuous. Anyway, Jeffrey Fisher as Archbishop of Canterbury crowned Queen Elizabeth the second in 1953, so that is... Not in Cedeling. Two degrees of separation. And that was his headmaster. That was his headmaster. That was his headmaster, yeah. It's genuinely impressive.
Starting point is 00:11:28 He wasn't seen to be a particularly good writer at school. One of his English teachers wrote in his report that they had never met anyone who so persistently writes words meaning the exact opposite of what is intended. Oh, that's great. You might have known this, that was a very tall man. He was six foot six. And it was quite tall. It was pretty sporty. He played squash, captain of the squash name
Starting point is 00:11:56 also played soccer and cricket. Is there another name for squash? Racketball is similar, but different. It's not, okay, it's not the same. Cool. Thank you for clarifying. But a very similar idea, it's in a weird room where you hit the ball up against the wall.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Never played, I don't think I want to. Yeah, it feels like a small... It's a bit claustrophobic. Yeah, you're really closed. Yeah, I don't like that. Closed in a one-walls glass or something. No, I need space. From you guys, I need some, but we need to talk.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's why we record in this field. According to his autobiography, his mum offered to pay for him to study at Oxford or Cambridge after graduating Repton, but he replied, no, thank you, I want to go straight from school to work for a company that will send me to wonderful faraway places like Africa or China, which is what he did after graduating in 1932. He hiked through Newfoundland, then in 1934 accepted a gig with Shell Oil, which had him working in Kenya and Tanzania in Africa until 1939. Wow! Also, how was she going to be forward to sending him to Oxford Cambridge?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Cash money. I never told them they did alright, they're able to immigrant overseas. True. I think they were wealthy. Not super wealthy. Yeah, but it had some money. Comfortable. She played the stocks, yes, come on. She played the bogies.
Starting point is 00:13:21 She was a great professional. She played the fiddle really well. She played a lot. Really really in demand bus. She was a fiddler. So in 1939 day, what do you reckon he maybe he that was where the job ended? It's a good year. Probably had to go home to enlist. It was so world war two broke. Couldn't even think of a joke answer. You just went straight for the truth. She's playing my role. One of us has to misunderstand what the point of the show is.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Just come on. And answer everything, Cindy. Really? Look back at the joke per answer. Capita. Yeah, that's true. You are the leader. Capita. But if we look at the dumb answers per capita,
Starting point is 00:14:07 you are killing it. I am. It's a champion. So World War II broke. Dull ended up in Nairobi. It broke. Kenya did. It broke.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Broke early in a broke off and whatever that means. And so we ended up in Kenya for training before joining the Royal Air Force They are the ones who fight in the sky with less and he wasn't a pilot or anything I don't think at this point. I don't think he'd really flown stuff that is true Jess So for the delayed gratification What we just had to cross check your answer there Jess and you work right? Thank you with less than eight hours experience a Targamoth, he flew solo.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Shit. That is so bad. What the fuck? I was just, this is the start of the war, presumably, where there's still a lot of fight, like actual pilots alive. Yeah. Because it's probably either the war they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:57 you've getting the plane to fly it. Yeah. Put it at the start. Shortings in there, there's a few, right? Well, we've talked about plane incidences where somebody perhaps didn't have enough experience and they had 150 hours. Yeah, he has less than eight.
Starting point is 00:15:10 The Valentich disappearance. And also Bermuda Triangle. All right. Now I'm getting stuck into this stupid game that I also started. And then got angry about. It's gone full circle. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Thal was assigned to a squadron flying obsolete Gloucester Gladiators, which were the last fighter biplanes used by the RAF. Fighter biplanes. He was a bit shocked to learn that he would not be trained in flying the Gladiators or in aerial combat. In September 1940, on the 19th, it was the day before Dahl was to commence active
Starting point is 00:15:49 duty. He was sent to off-to-fly his gladiator from Egypt to Iraq and then on to Libya. When he came into land in Libya, he was low on fuel and struggling to find an air strip. He attempted to land in the desert, but crashed with the undercarriage of the aircraft hitting a boulder. He fractured his skull and was temporarily blinded. The plane was in flames and despite his injuries, he was able to drag himself clear before passing out. He was rescued and taken by train to a Royal Navy hospital in Alexandria, Egypt.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And not Alexandria Sydney. Exactly. Interesting. And he was dragged to Sydney. And RAF inquired into the crash fan that he was given dud instructions, and he was accidentally sent to a no man's land area with no air strip. And it was somewhere between the Allied troops and where the
Starting point is 00:16:43 Italian forces were located. We can also point out how Dothi instructions are. He's in Egypt, they've told him to fly to Iraq and then to Libya, despite the fact that Libya is next door to Egypt. Yeah, I think there were others. I think there were, you go north and then come back. I think there must have been,
Starting point is 00:17:01 he was picking some anab or something, some sort of reason, or I've said the wrong thing Matt Drugs drugs drugs. He was drunk running. He was picking up drugs. He was picking up drugs. He was putting them down But they did tell him he was picking up the drugs you were putting down I would never put down drugs. That's yeah. If you're, if you're, you're always talking about, like, yeah. Yeah. Never put down drugs. Never put down drugs or your friends. So that's all be supportive.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm going to reference an article from September last year, a bunch. It's from this publication called The Monthly. I don't know if you guys know that. It's an Australian publication. It comes out. How frequently does it come out? Look, I don't know this for sure, but I assume it is weekly.
Starting point is 00:17:51 The article that references called the man who never grew up here is an exerpt. In a telegram sent to his mother from the Anglo Swiss Hospitaliss Hospital in Alexandria, dated 14th of October 1940, Dahl wrote, Court fire but only concussion broken nose. Absolutely okay soon. In reality, the crash had almost killed him. He was badly burned, blinded for weeks, and had to have his nose surgically reconstructed. The effects of a fractured skull and spine injuries would cause dial chronic pain for the rest of his life. But he also believed that his near death experience was the thing that made him a rider. In a 1954 letter to his close friend Charles Marsh, an American newspaper owner, dial confessed,
Starting point is 00:18:37 I doubt I would have written a line or would have had the ability to ride a line unless some minor tragedy had sort of twisted my mind out of the normal brat. I'm glad to we'd pause there. I emerged a tiny philosopher. Oh, sorry, tiny philosopher is just cute. Like I'm actually like a little toddler wearing a three-piece suit. We'll be around a field like I am Socrates. What is time? That's very cute. Anything think it time falls of his cute. Oh
Starting point is 00:19:09 Shit, that's cute. Yeah, that's what happened with my after the Little but he's still so thoughtful He just love to think Fuck that's cute. The top of the go to I'm imagining like the KFC kernel, but little. It's just- The kernel, one of the most famous philosophers. I was wondering where you're going with three-piece suit of my life. You've got a picture in my hand, please.
Starting point is 00:19:38 A little Southern gentleman. Did you mean a three-piece suit or a three-piece feed? I liked it. I liked it. I liked it Dave. But that was good sass, yes. Thank you. Sorry to go on. That was later discharged from hospital and and called fit to resume his flying duties. It's just a different time isn't it? Well you can break your back, fracture your head and then a bit later they'll like get back out there, mate. See ya.
Starting point is 00:20:07 No, it's had to be just reformed onto his face. That does, now. There's blind for a few weeks. You be right, I'd actually go. Go fly plan. Throughout 1941, he took part in aerial combat in the Mediterranean, taking part in the Battle of Athens, alongside the highest scoring British ace of World War Two. High scoring at Miss Pac-Man. Yeah I
Starting point is 00:20:30 thought that was a weird term as well. I looked it up and this guy was his name was Pat Patel and he was Pat Patel. Pat Patel. Pat Patel. That was his that's what he's known as yeah Pat Patel., Patel. Real name might even be better than that, maybe not, but his real name was Mama Duke Patel. Fuck off! And he chose Pat. I mean, I'm- Mama Duke!
Starting point is 00:20:56 Patel. The Duke Patel. Fuck, that's good. That's such a good name. Duke Patel. Put it in the list, that's the top 10 we've ever had. Wow. I'd love to 10 we've ever had. Wow. I'd love to see that list written out.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yeah, anyway, not now. That's put the pen down, Dave. Sorry. I meant later. It's the second Duke we've had. So anyway, so second high, sorry, the highest scoring British ace of World War II pad paddle.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So that just means the most kills, is that what that is? Yeah, most kills. And to be an ace, I think you've got to have shot down at least five plus, I think, this is what it was, five plus. No, you're going to do the, the queen and the king. You got to do them. You got a complicated system. Ace is a cool nickname. Fuck, now I'm stuck with Bob. Two years later, you've gone, is it too late? You went too early. Bob Ace, Ace Bob, you can combine him. You'd be making a huge mistake, but you could. I just want you to know that the option is open. Thank you. Anyway Pat Patel, so he was believed to have shot down as many as 50 enemy aircrafts during
Starting point is 00:22:07 the war. It's me, you're playing shooting them. Goodness, I thought you were having a stroke. Darl later described the battle as an endless blur of enemy fighters whizzing towards me from every side. 22 German aircraft, I believe, to have been taken out in this battle as we're five of dial squadron killing four allied pilots including our man Mama Duke pat paddles taken out. Yes, that's a nine forty one. So he took down 50 planes and only Less than a couple of years which I have no idea, but it sounds like that is yeah
Starting point is 00:22:44 Let's say like 25 planes a year. Because it, so he was only in there for the... It's like one of four. One of four, no. Yeah, what did Frickin do? But if I'm reading this right, he's the highest going British ace of the war, and he died with the war having four years to remain. Is that no one?
Starting point is 00:23:04 No one caught him up? Yeah, wow. If I'm reading that right, but I'm able to. Where is their work ethic? Shoot down more planes. It's really disappointing. Yeah, it is. But do you know what it is? I mean, that sort of attitude comes from higher up.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And I think management need to maybe put in place some sort of goal system. You've really got to have ownership over your work. Yes. Otherwise you're not motivated. Blame Churchill. Yeah, it's Churchill's fault. Uh, Donald continued to see combat, but as the year went on he started to get bad headaches
Starting point is 00:23:36 and began blacking out from them. It regularly blacked out. Not real good when you're a pilot. No. Uh, this led to him being sent home to Britain. Oh, so not going blind and breaking his back, they're like, at you go, he's got headaches back home, you know, mate. Now you're done. Yeah. I told you, Jess, it was a different time. It was
Starting point is 00:23:58 different time. It was backwards. The less pain you had, the more like the year you had to go home. How you feeling? Good. Get the fuck out. Get out of here. Get away from the plane. This guy over here's got seven broken limbs and he's only got four. So he's flying. I mean, but he was blacking out. But you could break other limbs. He was blacking out. Yeah. These four and then he's Willie. Bro, that that's five. Yeah, he's third leg. And then Nick. Yeah, we could call it a limb, but you could also point to a wall and call it a limb and that wall is a limb seven Darls injuries from the war led to him needing a hip replacement and surgery to his spine on multiple occasions It's not fun. He was then transferred to Washington, D.C. in the United States.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Probably didn't need to qualify that. Becoming an intelligence officer at the British Embassy. While in Washington, he was encouraged to start writing... Sorry, Washington, where? D.C., which I think stands for District of Columbia. I broke that word up weird. District of Columbia. Is that right? That's right. Great. I need David. I need David knew. Did you know Dave wouldn't know? Oh God. I mean they're doing a lot of editing or this episode is gonna be fucked. That's gonna be fucked. It's gonna be fucked. It's be honest with each other. I hope we always are. While in Washington, he was encouraged to start writing by author C. S. Forrester. He later said that his writing career was a pure fluke,
Starting point is 00:25:33 saying without being asked to, I doubt if I'd ever have even thought to do it. Wow. Which I love and I kind of think that about a lot of things. I think without a few different things happening, you know, I reckon a lot of creative people wouldn't necessarily, like some people have it in them, they just know from when they're born. But I'm sure there's people out there, like the best novel ever written, just never got made because the girl's too busy working down minds or something, you know, I just, to me, that would make sense that people would... I wouldn't have thought I would do a podcast if you think you're asked Yeah, Matt would you have done this podcast if I hadn't asked you
Starting point is 00:26:11 A-Dragon you would be podcasting now. There you go. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I'm not sure I had no ambition to at the time. I don't think I can't remember so long ago So long ago remember we were so young. You're my everything now. My first. My only. Never leave me. My everything. My everything.
Starting point is 00:26:33 My, my everything. You're my first, my last, my everything. That's what I think, that's what I call you guys. Started out poetic. Okay, who's first? Who's last, who's Harry thinks? Sugar first. Matt's definitely the Harry thing.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Look at his face. He's so hairy. And I'm the last. Oh, that's about it. Sloppy thirds. Every time. After myself. Um, my hair is too. I chance to really change the meaning of that song. You're my hero with you. Never sheve been there. Soon after, soon after being spoke to by CS4, so being encouraged, he had his first short story published in the Saturday evening post on the 1st of August 1942. It was titled A Piece of Cake and it was a story focused on his time in the war. And how easy he thought it was. Whatever, yawn! Original title is peace of peace, but they added a sedge.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Come on man. Peace of the... Cake sells more than peace. Cake sells. Yeah everyone knows that. We've done a survey. Would you rather cake or peace? Most people said cake.
Starting point is 00:27:44 People said peace and we go more than one. It pissed on K. Compromise, that's a waste of saying, just compromise. They'll started out writing stories for adults, but he had his first attempt at a children's fiction story in 1942 writing the the Gremlins, who was Walt Disney funded. The cartoonist and the guy from... No, no Walt Disney was the Gremlins. It's his first thing for kids but is it like a a film more than a novel? No, it was a novel. Oh, but Disney paid for that. Disney, yeah. It's interesting. Sort of kind of like optioning it but it never got made into a film because it wasn't particularly successful.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I was reading about the movie, you guys are probably familiar with Gremlins. So Gremlins, the idea of Gremlins became popular in World War II with pilots and stuff. And that's what inspired him. Things going wrong with engines and stuff. It's like it's gremlins, you know. Oh, okay. That's where the faults are. So they sort of made up these little monsters. The guy who ended up making the gremlins film said he was, you know, he had read that story and he was somewhat inspired by it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And then other times he said that he wasn't at all, you know, it was its own different thing. I don't know, I haven't seen it, but there were no planes, right? Maybe they were. I also haven't seen it, Jess. This no planes, right? Maybe there were. What else haven't seen it, Jess? This is... Can't put a minimac away.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Wonder if the Simpsons episode of The Simpsons with the Gremlin on the bus? That's not scary. That's actually terrifying, but it's not. I didn't like that. So, yeah, so it wasn't a particularly successful, and he went back to writing macabre stories aimed at adults throughout the 40s and into the 50s. In 1953, Dale released a collection of his short stories entitled Someone Like You.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Never mind, I fart, it was the inspiration for the Adele song. I googled it to look into the book, and that was by far the most common result on Google was the Adele e-song fascinating story, just a little, just a little, I thought I'd throw on a little fascinating story there. Was that, was that fascinating wasn't it? Yeah! You Googled something, yeah. And something else came up. Yeah, I'm losing confidence in that story. Google, you're my hairy thing and see what comes up. My first, my last, my herithing, my heretic. You're hairy dick.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yes, enough about it, all right, let's move on. So someone like you was, it was very well received by critics and went on to win an Edgar award. Here are the Edgar awards. After Edgar right, the director of Sean of the Dead. It's actually close. Edgar Allan Poe. It's weird they didn't call him the power wards. Then you could then you could win a pole. So what while he is famous for his children's novels, he also had a lot of success writing for adults winning two further Edgar Awards which are presented by the mystery writers of America. One of his most famous short
Starting point is 00:30:59 stories for adults, the Smokow which is also known as the Man from the South, went on to be adapted for the screen a few different times including by Quentin Tarantino and also for Alfred Hitchcock's television series Alfred Hitchcock Presents. What was the Tarantino? A segment in his 1995 film Four Rooms. Oh, hmm. You were great asking. No further questions, Your Honor. This is again from that monthly article that Tomerys Adolesseus.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Adolesseus' Adolesseus are still a disturbing read. They share in the weird imagination that makes his children's fiction so satisfying, but a shorn of the boisterous and counterbalancing humour. And unlike in his children's fiction, cruelty tends to triumph, weak characters are humiliated, and cunning ones glory in their conquest. In 1953, that same year as the Adele song he wrote came out, Dal married actress Patricia Neil, familiar with her Dave, Jess? No. I didn't know her name, but she was an accomplished Thursdays reunion.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And Neal... That's a lesbian. A accomplished Thessian. I pronounce my piece as Bees. Neal, who would go on to win the Academy Award for Best Actress in 1963. Wow. Wow, what role? What a power couple. It was the movie HUD, which I've never heard of.
Starting point is 00:32:28 HUD. HUD. HUD. Yeah, I haven't heard of that other. Which is what Kate Hudson was named after. And then from that, the Hudson River named after her. Yeah, well after Kate's son. That doesn't make sense at all. It would be Kate's son.
Starting point is 00:32:46 That doesn't make sense at all. That would be Hudson's son. And her name, her son's name was, of course, River. River, yes. It was just very convenient that the river happened to be a river. Yeah, that is convenient. That's lucky. Convenient, yeah. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Oh, thank you. That was just pointing things and saying that's Hudson River. Oh, it's a river. Go, we're good. Anyway, they were married for 30 years, and from 1953 to 1983. And Dal and Neil had five children, Olivia, Chantel, Theo, Ophelia, and Lucy.
Starting point is 00:33:15 In 1960, he had a pretty tough time in the 60s. In 1960, when Theo was just four months old, his parents were struck by a taxi and sort of pushed into a bus in New York City and for a while after he survived. Oh my god. For a while after he suffered from Hydroph. Hydrocephalus, which is an accumulation of cerebral spinal fluid within the brain. accumulation of cerebral spinal fluid within the brain. Due to this, Roldale became directly involved in the development of a device which was able to alleviate the problem.
Starting point is 00:33:52 The device was the Wade Dal-Till valve, Wade being a hydraulic engineer, named Stanley Wade, and Till being neurosurgeon Kenneth Till, obviously the dial part being rolled down. The children's author. Wow. Holy shit. Some people are sort of saying, you know, quite interested in gizmos and stuff and that can through and some of his writing. Who's a Watson gizmos and do wackies?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, do do wackies. Sorry, it's just the correct there on the terminology, but the device was used successfully on nearly 3000 children around the world. So he's invented a thing that like a laugh-saving thing. We played a role in it. I imagine the neurosurgeon and the engineer probably he's going, let's think of a cool name. I got words And probably money too. No, I don't know. I don't I didn't look into that too much, but anyway He was involved enough to get his name in it. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:34:54 In November 1962 Charles Eldest Child Olivia died from the measles at seven years of age Like his sister same age her death led like his sister, same age. Her death led to Dale losing faith in God, viewing religion as a sham. He went to a former archbishop of Canterbury, Jeffrey Fisher, his old pastor for spiritual gardens, and he was dismayed when he was told that while Olivia would be in heaven, her dog would never join her there. Thinking back to that conversation, Dal later recalled, I wanted to ask him how he could be so absolutely sure that other creatures did not get the same
Starting point is 00:35:37 special treatment as us. I sat there wondering if this great and famous churchman really knew what he was talking about and whether he knew anything about God or heaven And if he didn't then who in the world did, you know, he just started doubting and I was like, I don't know if this joke And I was what he's talking about and if not him, it's basically the king of the Church of England Found a stand that right the king's that is only but you know what I mean the king of the church So the 966 were very tough for the dial family. Following his son's injuries and his daughter's passing, his wife Patricia suffered multiple cerebral aneurysms while pregnant
Starting point is 00:36:17 with their fifth child Lucy. She was in a coma for three weeks and one newspaper even ran an obituary for her. But she pulled through. So that stage was an Academy Award winner. This is after the Academy Award. Wow. So, you know, big news at the time. And a paper is running in a bitry. Same. It's gone. It came through. But she pulled through and gave birth to her healthy child. Wow. The aneurysms led to a lengthy rehabilitation process where she had to relearn how to walk and talk.
Starting point is 00:36:56 She also went back to acting after that as well. To such a high standard that she was once again nominated for an Academy Award in 1968 only a couple years later. That was for her role in The subject was Roses, another film I'm not familiar with, but yeah, obviously very good actress, actor. That's crazy. She lost on this occasion. Oh, what the fuck? To tide winners, which I didn't, does that happen very often? I'm pretty rarely. And this doesn't seem right, Barbara Streisand. And she won a Best Actress Award.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yeah. Wow. And Catherine Hepburn. So that's quite a big double. Wow. You know Catherine Hepburn, who won four? Streisand. Best Actress Academy Awards.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, and the other Hepburn won a EGO, right? Is there a right no? Order a Hepburn, but they're not related. Not related, and so do we'll be girl, Big. They're not related. The two Hepburns, no. Really? Catherine and Audrey Hepburn.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I thought they were. No, there you go. They're not related. No, I reckon we could... I reckon we'd be able to find you in realizing that in the Academy Awards episode as well. No! Do we show up really? Sure, also won an Academy Award. Sure. Yeah, she's amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:17 But the headburns really? Yeah, they do feel like they'd be sisters, right? What are the odds? They look similar. They're the only two Hepburns I've ever heard of. Me too! Apart from Hepburn Springs, the outer suburb of Melbourne. Yes, which is named after them. Yeah, but Johnny Hepburn.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Oh, sorry, also Johnny Hepburn. And Johnny. Do I assume exists somewhere? Well, that just took a walk in Hepburn. Oh, obviously Christopher Walk in Hepburn. Oh, obviously Christopher Walken Hepburn. Breast milk science. It's a thing. And it's our thing. We're by heart.
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Starting point is 00:40:37 Oh, a film that terrified me as a child. I loved it. Really? I didn't like how he was treated badly by the step. Yeah. He gets adopted out of grandparents or aunty and uncle. Very common motifs through his stories. Yeah, it's been treated and then he was off to boarding school, and there were a lot of really tough adults around, beating him down. So that was potentially one of the reasons why a lot of his stories went that way. He also wrote 1964's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which was obviously a, it was very
Starting point is 00:41:24 popular. And 1970's fantastic Mr. Fox. He falls Charlie in the chocolate factory, which was obviously a, it was very popular and 1970s, fantastic Mr. Fox. I loved fantastic Mr. Fox. All of these have been adapted for stage end or screen, as well as later classic such as the BFG and Matilda. And many of those become really big kids, like Charlie and the chocolate factory and the BFG were adapted for screen multiple times. The big question is Gene Waldor or Johnny Depp? There is no question. It depends on what you're talking about. Who do I started the question? It's worse. Johnny Depp.
Starting point is 00:41:58 If the question is who smuggled small dogs in Australia, then I think it is. That was a question, yes. In the 1960s, Darle also wrote some screenplays, including adaptations for two in-flaming novels. We talked about this, didn't we? He did one of the Bond movies and then also Tiddy-Tiddy Bang Bang. That's right. Yeah, that's the Bond link. Tiddy-Tiddy Bang Bang. You only lived twice, was the Bond film, and also Chidi Chidi Bang Bang. He also began writing the screen adaptation for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,
Starting point is 00:42:32 but after failing to meet deadlines, the job was taken away from him. It was taken over by David Seltzer, who changed the storyline in a few minor ways, but Dale was unhappy with these changes, and he ended up disowning the film, and was particularly disappointed with how he thought it placed too much emphasis on Willy Wonka and not enough on Charlie, which is pretty well illustrated by the fact that the movie version changed the name
Starting point is 00:42:59 from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. That film came out in 1971. His disappointment led him to refuse any further remakes of the book or its sequel, Charlie and the great-class elevator in his lifetime. So a remake, obviously, with Johnny Depp was made not until after he passed away. Do you guys picture a certain kind of illustration with rolled-out books? Yeah, absolutely. I totally do as well.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's sort of pretty loose and scratchy. Scratchy, yeah. I was imagining the witches. Totally. I was a bit of a twit. The twits, yes. Did you realize though, that illustrator,
Starting point is 00:43:44 he only got on board with the 1978 book, The Enormous Crocodile. I remember that one. And the illustrator's name was Quentin Blake. So for the first, you know, 15 years or so of him writing children's books, they people didn't have those pictures in their heads when they were reading along. Until 1978 and from then on sort of This is again quoting from the monthly as a paragraph you're about Blake in Blake
Starting point is 00:44:11 Dahl found an artist who perfectly captured both the humor and the grotesquery of his writing Which is a fucking sick word grotesquery so good Blake's line drawings are one reason why Dahl's books have not dated Unlike the visual style of Inid Blot and famous famous five series, the present day appeal of which is self-consciously retro. Blake's illustrations are essentially timeless. And in their zest, they fairly bounce off the page, with a kinetic energy that complements Darl's own enthusiastic choice of words. And the physical transformations to which his characters are so often subject. Okay, so I'm touched on a little bit of dodgy stuff about him. No, I was gonna say he seems pretty good.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, apart from just being a little bit backwards but... Yeah, and anyway, this is sort of the most controversial thing about him is probably this. I didn't know a lot about him before reading up on him this week. He killed several people. You know, a day. It was a habit. I'll be right. I'll be interested in know if you guys knew about this. I definitely didn't.
Starting point is 00:45:24 He was a bit of an anti-Semite. No, I did not know that. You know that don't? Did not know that at all. Yeah, that feels wild that it's still like movies have been made of his books. He's still seen as like a legend but yeah pretty full on. This is what he said once to a reporter. There's a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I mean, there is always a reason why anti anything crops up anywhere. Even a stinker like Hitler doesn't just pick on them for no reason. Oh, no. I see. But at least he said Hitler was bad. That's true.
Starting point is 00:46:07 That is true. It's stinker. He doesn't agree with Hitler. But he doesn't pick on him for no reason. Yeah, and he had a point. What a point. I'll think to say, he said that to a journalist. No.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yes. Not good. So now I'm gonna give you some sort of, some people trying to make excuses for him a bit. He said there were other examples of similar things that he'd said. Steven Spielberg directed the film adaptation of his book, Dahl's book, The Big Friendly Jyre in 2016. He's Spielberg's a Jewish filmmaker. I don't know if you've heard of him.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Steven Spielberg, you guys? No. No, but I'm willing to hear him out. When he was asked at Cannes, I've found film festival about these things. He said, I wasn't aware of any of role dials, personal stories. I was focused on the story he wrote. Later when I began asking questions of people who knew Darle, they told me he liked to say things he didn't mean just to get a reaction. And all his comments, which I've now read about, about bankers are all very old-fashioned, mid-30 stereotypes we hear from Germany, that he would say for effect, even if they were horrible things.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So he's sort of, it's like he's going, now, I was just trying to get a rise out of people. He's just being a shit-ser-er. Hmm. Which is, feels, to me, kind of unwarkly. Like, you don't say that. I mean, it's not like a punk. He's a children's writer.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, fuck the man. Fuck the man. He's a magical chocolate factory. Woo! His Wikipedia page, they'd go into it a bit as well, quoting Amelia Foster, who's the director of the Royal Dahl Museum, talking about these quotes.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Amelia's quote is saying, this is again an example of how Dahl refused to take anything seriously, even himself. He was very angry at the Israelis. He had a childish reaction to what was going on in Israel. Darl wanted to provoke. As he always provoked at dinner. His publisher was a Jew, his agent was a Jew, and he thought nothing but good things of them. He asked me to be his managing director and I'm Jewish.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So he's sort of saying, look, no, some of his best friends are Jewish kind of thing. And there was a quote from Dar also saying that he wasn't anti-Semitic, he was anti-Israeli. So he was, but I don't know. Yeah, fuck. The director of the museum there does seem like they're sort of defending their life as well. I feel like the Simpsons were, she exposes jeopardized Springfield as a fraud. Totally. The director of the Springfield Museum is like, no, no, I've got to cover that up because I've
Starting point is 00:48:50 directed my, did I get him on life to this? This guy being a hero, yeah, yeah totally. It is exactly that. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the Simpsons spoofing this. The Dodd in in 1990, Samia the Simpsons started, I don't know if that's a coincidence, it's not in 1989, didn't it? Yep, sorry. But the same year that Jess and I started our lives? Yeah, he died when you were born. Do you think maybe your spirit lives on in you guys?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Definitely, yes. I've got some opinions. And I love chocolate. It's a factory. It's a factory. So obviously that's all pretty fucked. And the other thing that came up a bit reading about him, you know, from people talking negative about him was his sort of more old school fashion opinions about women.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I had, that's not the right, I'm being like, I'm coding it. He's misogynistic. Okay, yep. So the monthly article also talked about some of those themes running into a lot of his writing, especially his adult fiction, but also some of his children's fiction. And they said that the women characters in Dahl's children's stories are split between being benign and evil. One of the two.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Then he's not particularly positive with his wound. So it's really hard to do this sort of report where you're talking about a guy and then you're gonna wrap up the story. Or it's like if it's like, anyway, he went on to have success. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what to do this particularly, but...
Starting point is 00:50:22 At the same time, you gotta be balanced. Gives the good in the bad, you know? So his last decade of his life, died in 1990, last decade of his life, was super successful writing. This is also when he's saying a lot of these fucked up things. Great. But he had a lot of his big hits.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And he's like, I'm saying these things that I'm getting bigger, it's working. This is the monthly again. Darl wrote several of his best books, the BFG, The Witches, Matilda, and his two volumes of his autobiography, Boy and Going Solo, during the 1980s, the final decade of his life. He had been re-energized by a second marriage, so he divorced up to 30 years and re-arry basically straight away to a woman named Felicity Licky crossland
Starting point is 00:51:08 A bit lissy it'd be lissy no licky licky licky Color flicky licky with whom he had conducted a long-term love affair I was a cheater. How many Academy Awards is flicky licky one Yeah, who's? Who the fuck is Flicky Lucky? Who's cheating on an Academy Award winner? Get your body house in order. Rolled? Rolled. His four remaining children had all grown up and he was an aging man writing for a vast
Starting point is 00:51:39 and eager fan base of young readers. In his maturity he had learned a certain tenderness, not for everyone. He got soft with age. Probably no. Everyone except a certain type. Yeah. Women. I said two certain type, which as a large population of this planet. Yeah, that's a quite a large population. Probably no one who has read the witches has ever forgotten the book's ending. If you read the witches. I have not because I do not know the book's ending. I have read the witches, but I don't remember how it ends.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Oh, that's interesting. So this is a motherly article. I think as soon as I say it, as soon as you say it, I'll know it. Well, let's put a spoiler alert in case you want to read the witches. Yes, spoiler, if anyone's about to read the witches. Skip forward.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I've seen the movie as a kid, which I found out I'm in quite scary. That was one of the things, you know, all... Oh, didn't they turn the boy into a mouse? Yeah, and the witches pretend to be women. Yeah. They're very pretty, but underneath they're hideous freaks, which is... And what's the thing? Some people are saying is like, that's clear.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That's him being a bit like women underneath you know Don't trust them. They're all hiding something. Well, that's just true Can I so he turns the little boy gets turned into a mouse and he spends basically the whole time trying to get turned back into a boy But he doesn't that's right. Yeah So I'm gonna read the last few lines out of it which this month the article also Quoted will you sum that up, Nasi? Doesn't get turned back into a boy. Mm.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And this is a little dialogue between him and his grandmother. Grandma, yeah. How old are you, Grandma Mammar, I ask? I'm 86, she said, will you live another eight or nine years? By March, she said, with a bit of luck. You've got to, I said, because by March, he said with a bit of luck. You've got who I said. Because by then, I'll be a very old mouse.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And you'll be a very old grandmother. And soon after that, we'll both die together. Yeah, brutal. So he's a boy gone. I know how long I live. Yeah, I've worked out the average age for mouse. Which seems long. I wouldn't realize my sleeves that long.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But anyway, um... Well, maybe when they're living with an elderly woman who looks after them, yeah. And out in the wild, where cats can get them. Just as a like a boy, imagine like his and sort of sound like that's a rolled sort of, all right, that's how it is. Move on, my dad died. He just died. He just kept yelling that all the time, my dad died. Every just died. He just kept yelling that all the time. My dad died. Every time the publisher said, maybe we should change that. My dad died.
Starting point is 00:54:09 No, you're right. Sorry. I'm so sorry. He died 70 years ago. So sorry. Darle died on November the 23rd, 1990, from an unspecified infection at the age of 74. Over his decade long writing career,, Dal composed 19 children's books and
Starting point is 00:54:28 nine short story collections. Dal's popularity in Australia at least is still very strong. Over the last decade, each of Dal's leading children's titles, Matilda, The Witches, The BFG and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory have all made roughly $1 million in local sales. Just in Australia. Yeah. Wow. Books.
Starting point is 00:54:52 How about them? So he would have been mega rich. Yeah, I mean, all of those sales then are after he died, so he was selling even better during his life. But yeah, he's just one of these just an evergreen sort of popularity worth. I don't think a lot of people know about the hate in his soul, but I'll finish with this line again from the monthly article that I obviously love so much, which I should link to if anyone wants to read it in full. Um, this is quoting Dar.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I believe that mentally I am a sort of overgrown child. Child. Child. I'm an overgrown child. He wrote in 1986 for the Sunday Times. He described himself as a gigla, a lover of childish jokes and knock-knocks. Um, my ears are burning. A chocolate and sweet eater.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Woohoo! And a raging anti-seminer. Oh! Cheers! Is that the next part? And a person with one half of him that is completely failed to grow up and understand that Jewish people are just people too. One half of them has failed to grow up, which half?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, it looks down on his legs. Children's legs. Seven-year-olds legs. He's that type of philosopher. God damn it. And that is my report. What a conflicted story. Yeah, I didn't know. Reminiscing about these childhood stories and...
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah, what a big... He was the big friendly giant, 6'6", you know. He went through so many tough things and you're like... And he has that sort of famous quite about like thinking good thoughts. Right, yeah. You know like thinking good thoughts and then your face will be beautiful. I mean, people were saying it a bit better, but he was a writer. What am I, bloody podcaster?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Hey, how about it? Well, Roller-Dunne never even appeared on a podcaster. So, fuck him. Yeah, fuck that guy. I'm gonna find out. My parents went to see Roller-Dunne speak in the, I was probably the A-D's, when he came out to Australia.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Really, that's cool. And it's said on the thing, this is for adults only, this is not a kids event. This is not a kids event. Then when they went along along some people had brought their kids and apparently he came out and Buck and cracked the shits They were kids there and made him get let made and leave brutal because this is not like I'm not talking about my kids books You get the fuck out adult writer. Yeah, that is tough
Starting point is 00:57:21 That is tough for yeah Everyone knows like yeah the parents haven't read the Jews. That same person wrote, if you have good thoughts, they'll shine out of your face like sunbeams and you'll always look lovely. Now get the fuck out! So, you know, we're all, we've all got, yeah, four. We've all got floors, I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Yes. Pelvic floors. We've all got pelvic floors. I do this truth. Some of us wear waterproof sacks because our pelvic floors are not as good as others. No, thank you for that. What just happened? Dave, just moved on on which as he should have
Starting point is 00:58:06 Good for it. No, sorry, and thank you for that great report there Matt Very good. It very good report Matt very good stuff. Thanks Jess. A crazy life. No sassy twin Sass twins We like thank you like thank roll Darford forever living so we could talk about him And we'd also like to thank everyone that supports the show In any way just for downloading it you support in the show also Harry me Andy Kevin and Oscar for suggesting the topic Yes, thank you guys No, that he was a bit of it. Is that why you asked us to do the topic? Are they also anti-Semites? No, I just thought maybe they were like anti-Semites
Starting point is 00:58:43 Because you know, it definitely added another dimension. Man, I still haven't gotten over it. I only learned that yesterday. You mean last week when you started this report? No, it was at the end. I'd pretty much written the report and I'm like, oh, fuck, imagine if I did it and just
Starting point is 00:58:59 glossed over it. Glossed over it. Yeah. Here's a question. Now you know what you know. Are you less inclined to want to engage with his material? Yeah. In your life.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You need to introduce it to future generations of your family. Or are you a bit like, no, I don't want to read that now. No, I think it. Was it affected? I think it does affect me. I can't separate that well. Like I'll just scan between art and the artist. I find it hard to do.
Starting point is 00:59:23 That's why you can't watch me do stand up. Because I know you're such a bad Dark-sold person, but the comedy's so good. That's so good. Political biting. She's pointing. She's pointing. She's pointing. She's pointing. Put down the mirror. I can't stand to look at myself in the rest of society. Yeah Yeah, so I feel just I didn't realize what pathos meant until you Adorned the stage a door with pathos with pathos. It was everywhere It was hanging it from the ceiling The ornamental pathos. I thought it was like a yeah, I didn't realize it was actually just a decoration Has a curtain on the stage anyway, let's think some patreon. Yeah, so what we realize it was actually just a decoration. It was a curtain on the stage.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Anyway, let's think some Patreon page. Yeah, so what we're trying to do here is thank everyone that supports the show through Patreon. Patreon.com slash do go on pod for all your Patreon e-needs, including where you can get a bonus episode of the show of you supporters there. And a little shout out at the end of the episode. And Jess, we've got some people
Starting point is 01:00:25 you'd like to thank that support us through Patreon. I do have some people I'd like to thank and I do need to apologize early because I'm going to say your name wrong and I'm sorry and God bless you. What's the game this week, Dave? I was going to say the game could be giving them a role,down, like, children's book title. Oh, okay. You know? Like, Charlie and the Jonathan factually.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Let him it just them and the giant something. Okay. Is them and the giant something great. So the first person I want to thank from Swansea in the UK is Ceri John Jones. Ceri John. C-E-R-I, what's that, Dave? C-E-R-I. Siri.
Starting point is 01:01:08 What's Sherry? Cherry John Jones. It's a great name either way. It's a good name. John in a Jones works well. Yeah, so good, right? So thank you very much. Siri John Jones and the giant...
Starting point is 01:01:19 Do... Faye. LAUGHTER The giant do that. Where were you going with that? If you can own one giant thing, you do not want a giant doofa. Why not? Be so snuggly. Oh, I'm imagining like giant.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Like it's big enough to wrap up my house. Yeah, then your house is snuggly. You got a whole world under there. Oh, that's so snuggly. And it's all snuggly. You're living a snuggly world. And you get under there to get away from your abusive adoptive parents. Yeah, imagine the adventures you could get up to.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Dave. Life is one big pillow fort. That's exciting. That's really exciting. Excellent. And the other person I would definitely like to thank as well from Prenten is Toby Chanin. That's so magical, man. Chanin.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Chanin, Chanin. Chanin. Chanin. Chanin. Toby. Toby Chanin. Toby Chanin. Thank you, Toby.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And the giant Uncle Toby's bar. Toby Chanin. The giant Uncle Toby's bar. I'd rate that. Bar Toby channel I'd read that We're discovering that I read that I'd read that We're discovering that roll down maybe made of may have been genius after all. It's harder to come up with that we thought disagree This is very easy
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm at next what we got I'd love to thank you for me John All right, Matt next what do we got? I'd love to thank you for my John Failed no Failed yeah, that can't be right John fail now He's from Marickville and you said well. Oh, please come to our show John Marickville. Yeah, that's in Sydney, right? Yeah John that's like there's a famous thing in Marickville. What's the famous Maricville thing and what's his name? What's just a
Starting point is 01:03:08 Beautiful trendy area. Yeah, but what's his story? I was sorry What's your name again John John? Falmer John Falmer on the giant Athletic Stracke Yes. Nine kilometers in circumference. What? Huge! No man or woman has ever completed it without stopping for a piss break.
Starting point is 01:03:31 You can definitely run 9Ks, though. No man or woman. Wow. And so what kind of adventures does he get up to? Mainly training for the big run. You've given him a burden. I'd also love to thank from Nelson in New Zealand. Leroy and manual Flynn.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Oh, Leroy and manual Flynn. Triple banger. Triple banger. That's the best time we've had in the whole show. Leroy and manual Flynn. Nelson New Zealand. All right, so it's Leroy and manual Flynn Nelson New Zealand All right, so it's Leroy a manual and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a run-up Jess and you're gonna give me the Don't think blank you mind blank you mind. Let's just say what happened to you pretty
Starting point is 01:04:16 Leroy a manual Flynn and the giant banana Wow, she got a run up for that. Banana. Man, he's going to have potassium for days. Lucky boss said, what, aren't Leroy? Enjoy. Enjoy, enjoy Roy. Thanks so much for the support Leroy and John, my two favourites this week.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I'd like to thank a couple of my own favourites. All the way from incredible place name coming up. Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Oh fuck yeah, that's good. That's really cool. I'd like to thank Robert Chimente. Chimente! Robert Chimente.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Oh that is it. Man the names today have been great. Very good names. Robert. Chimente! Chimente! Oh, that is it. Man, the names today have been great. Very good names. Robert, Chimente and the giant... Crispy chicken sub. Oh, okay. And banana was dumb. Robert loves chasing it.
Starting point is 01:05:20 He kept chasing like... Crispy chicken sub. I still have it. I still have it. I still have it. Sob because you can't just have crispy chickens. It's gonna be in something. I haven't finished yet. Now I'm done. I'm done. Robert Jimmie's in the giant chicken sup.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Crispy chicken sup. Grace. Thanks Robert. We appreciate you listening in bloody Broken Arrow Oklahoma. I wonder if, because Broken Arrow is the name of a Anani's film starring John Travolta and Christian Slater. Is it? I wonder if that is where he lives in a 90s action film.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I think so. I think we can certainly assume that. Robert Chimante and the giant 90s action film. That's what I've been... There it is, there it is. Very, very cool. And I've got one final present I think this week. And they are from Man Chester.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Man Chester? Manchester. Manchester. And that is Jack Marshland. Marshland. Okay, Matt, this is you. Ready? I'm giving you a run up. I think that's Marsland. Reading over your shoulder there. It may have auto corrected. I do apologize. What we do is we write down each of your names at the start And it didn't recognize Marsland as the words It was a did you mean marshland so I'm gonna say Jack Marsland and the giant marshland very confusing. Oh, that's very good But that was Matt's go God your selfish day look I came up if you come up with giant crispy chicken strips up whatever I said Then you deserve a second go. It's carry up whatever I said then you deserve a second go It's carry over champ and I won you deserve a second go because you're fucked the first one. I begged for a second go off mic
Starting point is 01:06:53 I said to Matt please let me do that and thank you Jack Marsland and the giant marshland It's unfortunate because I'd really blanked my mind. I was ready to say something that takes a lot of mindfulness It does take a lot of mindfulness. I'm really mindful right now Dave, but you filled it with marshland. Sorry. Jess Perkins in the giant dish What the fuck is the D-ditch? I'm gonna have to Google it because that came from somewhere right inside my brain. How would you spell that? D-W-S-A-T-S-A-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-S-T-T-S-T She's face too, she's just like, oh no. It was like, Deesh, what am I saying? All right, it does an urban dictionary. Oh, and this will not be good.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Deesh. It's always sexual. It's always sexual at every dictionary. Oh no, this is good. Oh, this is... What's a Deesh? It's very apt. Deesh.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Deesh. This is so Jess. To do your damn thing, no matter what anybody else says or does. To be true to yourself because nobody else can. I do that in a giant way. That is your dish. You are a dish. Am I a dish? You're a giant dish. Mastill in on a dish. There's a second one. Deach back. A word used to substitute any other word you want or used to cut somebody off. Other forms, Disha, Disha Fied, Disha Fied,
Starting point is 01:08:34 got dayum, Disha, et cetera. I hate everything you're saying. There's no good right? First one was good. There's an example here. Man, I was Disha and, Mr. Simpson, right? When this one chick was talking about she was trying to slide on me one time and deesh. Oh, that's what I knew. That definition was from 2009.
Starting point is 01:08:59 A good year. It's a time-changed. Times-changed. You know why? He's trying to slide up and I was like, what the dee? Yeah, the second one just means any word. Which is what we will, Jess and the giant, anything, is what we're looking for. She's very lonely. She'll take, she'll take giant, anything. Jess Perkins and the giant to do your damn thing. No matter what anybody else says or does,
Starting point is 01:09:27 to be true to yourself, because no one else can. No one else can. What a story that is. Hmm. You got. D. You got girl. You get your D show.
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Starting point is 01:09:59 All right, we're gonna go. Thank you so much guys. We'll see you next week until then. I will say goodbye Later Alright, we gotta go. Thank you so much guys. We'll see you next week until then. I will say goodbye. Later. This is flying, pass the button. Eeeeeee. Now I see ya. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want, it's up to you. Hello! Pleasure to make your acquaintance.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Is that Mrs. Doudfire? Hello! It's always Mrs. Doudfire. You got two gears. What? You don't miss his dad. I'm doubt. Yeah. Mutual. What? Mutual misses 10. I'm doubt. Put it in doubt.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I'm new. Is neutral a gear? Anyway. Oh, I imagine that as a primary school teacher. Look, you could use your better bloody listen up. Broding? Broding, sorry. Did you say imagine Broding?
Starting point is 01:11:21 I always imagine Broding as a primary school teacher. And I think it would sound a little silly. Broden from the unidonal podcast, another point of process. No, hang on, you bloody kid, you're just a bloody noisy boot. Is Broden, is he big enough of a superstar now that we don't, we probably don't even need to. He's like, in the world, he's like,
Starting point is 01:11:41 he's like, share. He's like, share. He's just Broden. How many other Broden's do you know in the world of celebrity voice impersonations It goes Michael Cain then Broden Kelly that are two go to hey can you all right? I want to hear you guys just very quickly before He really pissed off everyone listening especially for the first time Dave as Michael Cain meeting Jess's Broden Kelly Hello Broden a Michael Cain. Oh, Rolly. Hello, Michael Cain. I like your movies. I is Broden Kelly. Hello Broden. I'm Michael Kane. Oh, Broden, hello, Michael Kane.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I like your movies. I'm Broden Kelly. I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I- And I've won two Academy Awards. Davey, Michael Cain or Tiny Tim? What does it today? He's also looking off into the middle distance. I was in that film, sir. A very muffled Christmas. Yeah, that was Michael Cain's Scrooge, remember that? Yeah, I do remember. Of course I remember. He's fine, it's worth it.
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