Do Go On - 104 - Roald Dahl

Episode Date: October 18, 2017

Roald Dahl is one of the most beloved children's writer's of the 20th century, but his life involved much more than writing for children - including flying planes in WWII, writing films, a family life full of tragedy and being an anti-semite.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail]  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serengy Amarna 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. And welcome to another episode of DoGo on with me, Dave Warnocky, and then Matt Stewart and Jess Puckins. Oh, okay.

How do you do? And then, oh, until you said, okay, I didn't realize that he ranked us there, sort of. No, and them. Oh, them. With an M. Yeah, them, so it's me versus you two. He was ranking us. Seriously, you want to go against us.

I reckon you want to go up against. Oh my God, you what a fucking idiot. Are you serious? You want to go up against us? Yeah. We are the sassiest and the second sassiest people on this podcast. Shim is joking. You can't take on the might of the sass twins.

Sass twins. Yeah, right. I was bluffing and you called me. It's a real rank thing there too, isn't it? Because it's like Dave up top and then those two shithairs. Then the rest. The bottom. Is that what you feel, Dave?

No, I love you guys. And I'm really sorry. And I don't want to fight. because I'll lose. Otherwise, we would want to fight, just to put it on the record. Okay, interesting choice. That's smart, I guess. And the SaaS twins win again.

Classic SaaS. Classical SAS, all right. Which is sounded like the name of a song. A great song. And the similarities end there. We're all big fans of classical gas. Yes. Mason Williams.

Well, I'm more a fan of the bit in The Simpsons where Lenny requests classical gas. Play classical gas! Dund-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. Great track, it really, really is. It's in the dish. Great Australian film. Great, great film. And the similarities end there.

It's late at night, and we're going to lose our minds. So that'll be fun. It's going to be real fun. Next hour and a half of that. Anyway, let's get into the report for this week. Now, it's Mr. Matt's turn-to report. I thought when you call me Mr. Matt. You were joking.

down stairs before about everyone else going out for beers on this Thursday night and us having to come up here and do a school report. So you are going to be missed him out this week. And to get us on topic, because Matt has written a report that Jess and I don't know what it's about, he's going to ask us a question. All right, question time. So my question to you is it's very self-referential. So you guys are probably in quite a good position to be able to answer this, but also... Is the answer Dave? Or Jess? Fuck, all right. Well, if you're going to get it before I even... Today's episode is about Dave and Jess.

Yay! Legit, been requested on multiple occasions. My favourite subjects. The question today is, whose life story, so it's a, one's a person, whose life story includes connections

to do go on favorite topics like World War I, the Academy Awards, Walt Disney, Queen Elizabeth II, and James Bond. How? Some of them are tenuous.

They are live at the same time as many of these things? Yes. Is it the same that everyone in that sentence was alive in the 20th century, just like everyone in this room? Yes. No, no. There's no, some grazers and some, like, deep, deep involvements.

So they're probably English, maybe? All right, let me, let me narrow it down a little bit. Which author's life story includes connections? Author. To World War II, the Academy Awards, Walt Disney, Queen Elizabeth, with the second in James Bond. It's a tough one. I imagine you wouldn't get it.

What if I threw in Cadbury chocolate? Wonka? No. You were... Is it Roller Dahl? It is Roldahl. I'm giving the point of Jess there. Yeah, because I said Wonka.

And Wonka was kind of based a little bit on Roll Dahl and shop around. Actually, I was just calling Matt a wanker and I misspoke. But don't tell him. Lucky I got him with this one. So it's rolled doll I love rolled doll Very cool Are you gonna go through and tick up all these references

I think yeah I well I created that question As I was writing the report I'm like oh another one Rolled doll That's a striking name It's a striking name Rolled

Rolled Is that his birth name That is his birth name Yeah This topic What do you know that I did know that Bullshit

Oh fuck you You're a real wonker Oh fuck off Oh get fucked Oh come on Fuck you. I've not access to the internet. I've looked up things before.

Fuck off. Topic was suggested by Harry Green via email. Also, someone who goes by the name me at Widejink Scrawler. Andy CT at Super Andy 83. Kevin Flanagan via email. And also Oscar Ed, 51 at Oscar Ed 51. Very popular request. Yeah, quite a popular request.

Roald Dahl was born in. Landaff, a district in Cardiff, Wales on the 13th of September 1916. His parents were Norwegian born, Sophie and Harold. Oh. And he was named after Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen. Oh, the first one to get to the South Pole. Yes. That's true.

He's the first ever man. I know that too. Is that another, I could call that another connection. To maybe what. Oh, and then when you say another connection, It's another rainbow connection, Muppets. Here we go. All right, we're going to rack up a bunch here today if we're going, that tenuous, you'll find a way.

All right. I want you to link it to all 104 episodes. You got it. Including the one about Roll Dahl, which should be easier. Maybe. His sisters had similarly unique names. Sisters, okay. Who that we've reported on has sisters?

Cleopatra. Marikiri. There we go. Fuck yeah. All right, this is going to get T-D-S. And that, yeah, they had pretty unique names for Welsh children as well. Astri, Alfield and Else. Else.

Else. Is that Elsie? What else? Else. It's probably else. Elsa, Elsa. Yeah, yep. As a child, Norwegian was Dahl's first language, which he would speak at home.

And he spent many childhood summer vacations staying with his grandparents in the Norwegian capital of Oslo. When Dar was three years old, his sister Astri died from appendicitis at only seven years of age. Houdini. In his autobiography...

Was also once seven years old. Also had the problem of his appendix, remember? That's why, and he died? Oh. Do you remember that episode? Yeah, I do. It was my report. Yeah, I do remember that episode, Dave. Fuck off. Can I ask for a moratorium

on tedious link? Maybe just note them down. And at the very end, give us all 104, please, David. This is interesting, isn't it? That he wants us to stop interrupting and let him do his report instead of jumping in with references to things that nobody cares about. Like, oh, I don't know, football clubs or bands. It is draft period at the moment in the NFL.

Sorry to cut you off there, Matt, but if you could just go on with your report. Just to remind you this, what you interrupted there was me telling you about Rolls-Sale. seven-year-old sister dying. Yes. Which reminds me of a famous magician. In his autobiography, Dal later wrote that Astry was far and away my father's favorite.

That's me being him. That's why I said my idea. Soon after a death. Soon after her death. It's weird that you chose that one is your favorite doll. Fair enough, man. Sure enough. All right.

Soon after her death, struggling with grief, his father, Harold Dal, passed away from pneumonia. Dahl wrote, My father refused to fight. So he died. Brutal review from a three-year-old.

Yeah. I mean, he wrote that later on. I know, but like, he's like, come on, dad. Yeah. Spoonful of concrete. Harden the fuck up. Well, he was just saying it was so heartbroken from his daughter. I know.

I get what he's saying, but it's a brutal thing for him to say. I think when as a three-year-old, you lose your dad and your older sister, you probably end up being, I don't know, I don't want to make excuses for the man. But you probably learn to. hide your emotions a bit or something. I don't know what I'm talking about. I can understand the world. What a fucking waste of space I am.

Yeah. Yep, no, we're not arguing with that. We've got the concrete over here, Matt. Sass queens are turning on each other. No, sorry, Maddie. After considering moving back to Norway to be closer to family, Dahl's mom decided to stay in Wales to make sure her children received a British education, which her husband believed to be the best quality in the world.

Roald was sent around to many different schools. He initially studied at the Landaff Cathedral School, but after causing mischief playing practical jokes, he copped a beating from the principal and was transferred to St. Peter's boarding school, which he fucking hated. Fucking hated it. It was real tough.

Then he was transferred to a high-achieving private school named Repton. Didn't have a good time there either. He did not enjoy the school system. It was just pretty brutal. Pretty rough. Anyway, according to his autobiography, his friend Michael copped a huge caning by the headmaster, Jeffrey Fisher. A Michael Caning. A Michael Caning.

Hello. I'm whipping the shit out of you. I'm whipping your ox. Oh, ah, oars. Oh, okay. Whipping your ox? He knows your head. You're next.

So Jeffrey Fisher went on to become his headmaster. It went on to become the Archbishop of Canterbury. Which I guess you could relate back to King Henry yet because he sort of started the religion that he's the head of anyway. Tenuous. Anyway, Geoffrey Fisher as Archbishop of Canterbury crowned Queen Elizabeth II in 1953. I didn't see the link.

Two degrees of separation. And that was his headmaster. That was his headmaster, yeah. That's genuinely impressive. He wasn't seen to be a particularly good writer at school. One of his English teachers wrote in his report that they had never met anyone who so persistently writes words meaning the exact opposite of what is intended.

Oh, that's great. You might have known this. Darwell's a very tall man. He was 6'4 6. It was quite tall. It was pretty sporty. He played Squash. Captain Squash name, but also played soccer and cricket.

Is there another name for squash? Racquetball is similar, but different. It's not, okay, it's not the same. Cool. Thank you for clarifying. But a very similar idea. It's in a weird room where you hit the ball up against the wall, the rubber ball.

I don't think I want to. Yeah, it's a, it feels like a... Makes me a little bit claustrophobic. Yeah, you're really, you closed... Yeah, I don't like that. Closed in it and one wall's glass or something? No, I need space. Yeah.

From you guys, I need some space. We need to talk. That's why we record in this field. According to his autobiography, his mom offered to pay for him to study at Oxford, or Cambridge after graduating Repton, but he replied, no, thank you, I want to go straight from school to work for a company

that will send me to wonderful faraway places like Africa or China, which is what he did after graduating in 1932. He hiked through Newfoundland. Then in 1934, accepted a gig with Shell Oil, which had him working in Kenya and Tanzania in Africa until 1939. Wow. Also, how was she going to afford to send him to Oxford or Cambridge? cash money I never just told her they would they did all right they're able to

immigrant overseas and I think they were wealthy yeah not super wealthy yeah but it had some money comfortable she played the stocks Jess come on she played the bogies she was a great great professional game she played the fiddle really well I paid a lot really really in demand busker she was a fiddler so 1939 day what do you reckon he may be That was where the job ended. It's a good year. Probably had to go home to enlist. It was so World War II broke.

I couldn't even think of a joke answer. You just went straight for the truth. He's playing my role. One of us has to misunderstand what the point of the show is. Yeah, Jess, come on. And answer everything sincerely. Look back at the joke per answer, capital. Yeah, that's true.

You are a leader. Capital. But if we look at the dumb answers per capita. You are killing it. I am the champion. So World War II broke. Dahl ended up in Nairobi. It broke.

Kenya. It did. It broke early and it broke often. And whatever that means. So he ended up in Kenya for training before joining the Royal Air Force. They are the ones who fight in the sky. With less. And he wasn't a pilot or anything, I don't think, at this point.

I don't think he'd really flown. that is true, Jess. Sorry for the delayed gratification. Never. What? So we just had to cross-check your answer there, Jess, and you weren't correct. Thank you. So with less than eight hours experience in a Tiger Moth, he flew solo.

Shit. That is so bad. What the fuck? Also, this is the start of the war, presumably where there's still a lot of fire, like actual pilots alive. Yeah. Because by the end of the war, they're like, you, get in the plane and fly it. Yeah.

But at the start, shortly, isn't there? There's a few, right? Well, we've talked about plane incidences where some. somebody perhaps didn't have enough experience and they had 150 hours. Yes. He has less than eight. The Valentich disappearance and also Bermuda Triangle. Yep.

All right. Now I'm getting stuck into this stupid game that I also started. And then got angry about. It's gone full circle. Dahl was assigned to a squadron flying obsolete Gloucester gladiators, which were the last fighter biplanes used by the RAF. fighter biplanes He was a bit shocked to learn

that he would not be trained in flying the gladiators or in aerial combat In September 1940 On the 19th It was the day before Dar was to commence active duty He was sent off to fly

His gladiator from Egypt To Iraq and then onto Libya When he came into land in Libya He was low on fuel And struggling to find an airstrip He attempted to live land in the desert but crashed with the undercarriage of the aircraft hitting a boulder. He fractured his skull and was temporarily blinded.

The plane was in flames and despite his injuries he was able to drag himself clear before passing out. He was rescued and taken by train to a Royal Navy Hospital in Alexandria, Egypt. Not Alexandria, Sydney. Exactly. Interesting. And he was dragged to Sydney. An RAF inquiry into the crash found that he was given Dudd instructions

and he was accidentally sent to a no man's land area with no airstrip and it was somewhere between the Allied troops and where the Italian forces were located. What can I also point out how Dudd the instructions are? He's in Egypt that told him to fly to Iraq and then to Libya despite the fact that Libya is next door to Egypt. Yeah, I think there were other... I think that were...

You go north and then come back. I think there must have been he was picking someone up or something. Okay. That was some sort of reason. Or I've said the wrong thing. Matt, do you reckon it was drugs? Drugs. He was drug running.

He was picking up drugs. He was picking up drugs. He was putting him down. He was putting down some drugs. But they did tell him. He was picking up the drugs you were putting down. I would never put down drugs. That's true.

If I pick him up. You're always talking them up. Yeah. Never put down drugs. Never put down drugs. All your friends. So let's all be supportive. I'm going to reference an article from September last year, a bunch.

It's from this publication called The Monthly. I don't know that. It's an Australian publication. How frequently does it come out? Look, I don't know this for sure, but I assume it is weekly. The article that I reference is called The Man Who Never Grew Up. Here is an excerpt. In a telegram sent to his mother from the,

the Anglo-Swiss Hospital in Alexandria dated 14th of October 1940. Dale wrote, Caught fire, but only concussion broken nose. Absolutely okay soon. In reality, the crash had almost killed him. He was badly burned, blinded for weeks, and had to have his nose surgically reconstructed. The effects of a fractured skull and spinal injuries would cause Dal chronic pain for the rest of his life. But he also believed that his near-death experience was the thing that made him a rider.

In a 1954 letter to his close friend, Charles Marsh, an American newspaper owner, Dahl confessed. I doubt I would have written a line or would have had the ability to write a line unless some minor tragedy had sort of twisted my mind out of the normal. I left a weird pause there. I emerged a tiny philosopher. Oh, sorry, tiny philosopher is just cute. Like I imagine like a little toddler wearing a three-piece suit. you're at a field like, I am Socrates.

What is time? That's very cute. You don't think of Tommy Falls was cute? Oh shit, that's cute. Yeah, that's what happened to him after the plane crash. He's just so little, but he's still so thoughtful. He just, what he loves to think. Fuck, that's cute.

Was a toddler with a goatee? I'm imagining, like, the KFC colonel, but little. The colonel, one of the, the most famous philosophers. I was wondering where you got with three-piece suit. I'm like, God. She's got a picture in her mind. A little southern gentleman.

Did you mean a three-piece suit or a three-piece feed? I hated that joke. I liked it, Dave. But that was good sass, Jess. Thank you. So, do go on. Oh, tiny philosopher! Dahl was later discharged from hospital

and called Fit to resume his flying duties. just a different time, isn't it, where you can break your back, fracture your head, and then a bit later they're like, get back out there, mate. See ya. Nose had to be just reformed onto his face. He was blind for a few weeks. You'll be right, out you go. Go fly a plane.

Throughout 1941, he took part in aerial combat in the Mediterranean, taking part in the Battle of Athens alongside the highest-scoring British Ace of World War II. Highest scoring at Miss Pac-Man. Yeah, I thought that was a weird term as well. I looked it up and this guy, his name was Pat Pat Patel.

Pat Patel. Pat Patel. That's what he's known as, yeah, Pat Patel. Pat Patel. Real name might even be better than that, maybe not. But his real name was Marmaduke Patel. Fuck off! And he chose Pat.

Marmajic Patel. The Duke Paddle. Fuck. That's good. Good. Duke Paddle. Put it in a list. That's top ten we've ever had.

Wow. I'd love to see that list written out. Yeah. Anyway, not now. Put the pen down, Dave. Sorry. I meant later. It's the second Duke we've had.

So anyway, so second high, sorry, the highest scoring British ace of World War II Patel. So that just means the most kills. Is that what that way? Yeah, most kills. And to be it, to be an ace, I think you've got to have shot down at least five plus, I think. That's what it was. plus planes? No, you've got to do the

queen than the king. You got to do them? What a complicated system. Ace is a cool nickname. Yeah. Fuck. Now I'm stuck with Bop. Two years later, you've gone.

Is it too late? You went too early? Bop ace, ace Bop. You can combine them. No, thank you. You'd be making a huge mistake, but you could. I just want you to know that the option is open. Thank you.

Anyway, Pat Patel, so he was believed to have shot down as many as 50 enemy aircrafts during the war. Meet you in a plane shooting them. Oh, thank goodness I thought you were having a stroke. Dahl later described the battle as an endless blur of enemy fighters, whizzing towards me from every side. 22 German aircraft, I believe to have been taken out in this battle, as we're five of Dahl's squadron, killing four allied pilots, including our man, Marmaduke. Pat Pat all was taken out. Yes, and that's in 941.

So he took down 50 planes and only less than a couple of years, which I have no idea, but it sounds like that is impressive. Yeah, let's say like 25 planes a year. Because he was only in there for the... It's like one of Fortner. One of Fortner. Yeah, whoopty-frickin' dude. But he, if I'm reading this right,

he's the highest-growing British ace of the war, and he died with the war having four years to remain. Is that right? No one caught him up. Yeah, wow. Wow. If I'm reading that right, but I may not be. Where is their work ethic?

Shoot down more planes. It's really disappointing. Yeah, it is. But do you know what it is? I mean, that sort of attitude comes from higher up. And I think management need to maybe put in place some sort of goal system. You've really got to have ownership over your work. Yes.

Otherwise you're not motivated. Blame Churchill. Yeah, it's Churchill's fault. Dahl continued to see combat. But as the year went on, he said, started to get bad headaches and began blacking out from them. Regularly black out. Not real good when you're a pilot.

No. This led to him being sent home to Britain. Oh, so not going blind and breaking his back, they're like, out you go. He's got headaches. Back home you go, mate. Now, you're done. Yeah. I told you, Jess.

It was a different time. It was a different time. It was backwards. The less pain you had, the more likely you are to go home. How you feeling good? Get the fuck home. get out of here. Get away from the plane.

This guy over, he's got seven broken limbs and he's only got four. So he's flying. I mean, but he was blacking out. He could break other limbs. He was blacking out. Yeah. These four. And then he's Willie.

Bro that. That's five. Yeah, he's third leg. And then neck. Yeah, we could call it a limb, but you could also point to a wall and call it a limb. And that wall? There's a limb. Seven.

Dahl's injuries from the war led to him needing a hip replacement and surgery to his spine on multiple occasions. That's not fun. He was then transferred to Washington, D.C. in the United States. Probably didn't need to qualify that. Becoming an intelligence officer at the British Embassy. While in Washington, he was encouraged to start running. Sorry, Washington where? D.C., which I think stands for District of Columbia.

I broke that word up weird. District of Columbia. Is that right? That's right. Great. I knew Dave would knew. I knew Dave wouldn't you? Did you know Dave would know?

I'm either doing a lot of editing or this episode is going to be fucked. I think it's going to be fucked. It's going to be fucked. Let's be honest with each other. I hope we always are. While in Washington, he was encouraged to start writing by author C.S. Forrester. He later said that his writing career was a pure fluke, saying, Without being asked to, I doubt if I'd ever have even thought to do it.

Wow. Which I love. And I kind of think that about a lot of things. I think without a few different things happening, you know, I reckon a lot of creative people wouldn't necessarily. Like some people have it in them. They just know when they're born. Yeah. But I'm sure there's people out there.

Like the best novel ever written just never got made because the guy was too busy working down minds or something. You know, I just, to me that would make sense that people would. I wouldn't have thought I would do a podcast. If you didn't get asked. Yeah. Matt, would you have done this podcast if I hadn't asked you? This podcast? Do you reckon you would be podcasting now?

There you go. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure. I had no ambition to at the time. I don't think. I can't remember. So long ago. So long ago.

Remember, we were so young. You're my everything now. My first. My lips. Never leave me. My hairy thing. My hairy thing. My hairy

You're my first, my last, my hairy thing That's what I call you guys Started out poetic Okay, who's first, who's last Who's hairy thing? Should I got first? Matt's definitely the hairy thing Look at his face

He's so hairy And I'm the last Oh No, that's about right Sloppy thirds Every time After myself Um

My hair is thing That's really Chats really changes the meaning of that song You're my hair a thing Never she would be there. Soon after, soon after being spoke to by CS Forrester being encouraged, he had his first short story published in the Saturday Evening Post

on the 1st of August 1942. It was titled A Piece of Cake and it was a story focused on his time in the war. And how easy he thought it was. Whatever, yawn. Original title was Piece of Piss. The editor said, come on, man. Pace it is.

Cake sells more than piss. Cake sells. Yeah, everyone knows that. We've done a survey. Would you rather cake or piss? Most people said cake. People said piss and we gave them what they wanted. We pissed on their cake.

Compromise. That's all we're saying. Just compromise. Dahl started out writing stories for adults, but he had his first attempt at a children's fiction story in 1942 writing the Gremlins, who was Walt Disney funded. The cartoonist and a guy from Disney. No, I know Walt Disney.

Was the Gremlin, it's his first thing for kids, but is it like a film more than a novel? No, no, it was a novel. Oh, but Disney paid for that. Disney, yeah. That's interesting. Sort of kind of like optioning it, but it never got made into a film

because it wasn't particularly successful. I was reading about the movie, movie you guys probably familiar with Gremlins. So the idea of Gremlins became popular in World War II with pilots and stuff and that's what inspired him. Things going wrong with engines and stuff. It's like, oh, it's Gremlins, you know.

That's where the faults are. So they sort of made up these little monsters. The guy who ended up making the Gremlin's film said he had read that story and he was somewhat inspired by it. And then other times he said that he wasn't at all. It was its own different thing.

I haven't seen it, but there were no planes, right? Maybe there were. I also haven't seen it, Jess. Can't put him in a microwave. I wonder if the Simpsons' episode, you know, the Halloween episode of the Simpsons with the Gremlin on the bus? I wonder if that maybe was based on. That's actually terrifying about it was.

I didn't like that. So, yeah, so it wasn't particularly successful, and he went back to writing macabre stories aimed at adults throughout the 40s and into the 50s. In 1953, Dahl released a... collection of his short stories entitled Someone Like You. Never mind a fart.

It was the inspiration for the Adele song. I googled it to look into the book and that was by far the most common result on Google was the Adele song. Fascinating story. I thought I'd throw on a little fascinating story there. Was that fascinating, was it? Yeah. That you Googled something.

Yeah. And something else came up. Yeah. I'm losing confidence in that story. Google, you're my hairy thing and see what comes up. My first. My hair thing. My heretic.

Your hairy dick. Yes. Enough about it. All right. Let's move on. So someone like you was, it was very well received by critics and went on to win an Edgar Award. If you had the Edgar Awards. After Edgar.

go right, the director of Sean of the Dead. It's actually, close. Edgar Allan Poe. So we're that in calling the Poe awards. Then you could win a Poe pole. So while he is famous for his children's novels, he also had a lot of success writing for adults, winning two further Edgar Awards,

which are presented by the Mystery Writers of America. One of his most famous short stories for adults, the smoker, which is also known as the man from the south, went on to be adapted for the screen a few different times, including by Quentin Tarantino, and also for Alfred Hitchcock's television series, Alfred Hitchcock Presents. What was the Tarantino one? A segment in his 1995 film Four Rooms.

Oh. Hmm. You regret asking me. No further questions, Your Honor. This is again from that monthly article, about talking about his adult stories. Dahl's adult stories are still a disturbing read. They share in the weird imagination that makes his children's fiction so satisfying,

but a shorn of the boisterous and counterbalancing humour. And unlike in his children's fiction, cruelty tends to triumph, weak characters are humiliated and cunning ones glory in their conquest. In 1953, that same year as the Adel's song he wrote came out, Dahl married actress Patricia Neal. Familiar with her, Dave, Jess? No. I didn't know her name, but she was an accomplished Thesbian.

And Neil... Thespian. Accomplished Thespian. I pronounced my P's as Bees. Neil, who would go on to win the Academy Award for Best Actress in 1963. Wow. Wow, what role? What a power couple.

It was the movie HUD, which I've never heard of. HUD. HUD. Yeah, I haven't know that other. Which is what Kate Hudson was named after. And then, from that, the Hudson River named after her. Yeah, well, after Kate's son. That doesn't make sense at all.

That would be Hudson, son. And her son's name was, of course, River. River, yes. It was just very convenient that the river happened to be a river. Yeah, that is convenient. That's lucky. How convenient if it wasn't. They were just pointing things and saying that's Hudson River.

Oh, it's a river. Go, we good. Anyway, they were married for 30 years. From 1953 to 1983. And Dal and Neil had five children, Olivia, Chantel, Theo, Ophelia, and Lucy. In 1960, he had a pretty tough time in the 60s. In 1960, when Theo was just four months old, his pram was struck by a taxi and sort of pushed into a bus in New York. York City and for a while after he survived. Oh my God. For a while after he suffered from hydrophysphalus,

which is an accumulation of cerebrospinal fluid within the brain. Oh. Due to this, Rold Dahl became directly involved in the development of a device, which was able to alleviate the problem. Wow. The device was the Wade-Dall-Till valve, Wade being a hydraulic engineer named Stanley Wade and Till being neurosurgeon Kenneth Till, obviously the Dahl part being Roald Dahl, the children's author. Wow, holy shit. Some people are sort of saying like he quite interested in gizmos and stuff and that came through in some of his writing.

Who's a watsets and gizmos and do-wackies? Yeah, a little do-whackies, sorry, just to correct you there on the terminology, But the device was used successfully on nearly 3,000 children around the world. So he invented a thing that, like a life-saving thing. Wow. We played a role in it. I imagine the neurosurgeon and the engineer probably. He's going, let's think of a cool name.

I got words. And probably money too. No, I don't know. I didn't look into that too much. But anyway, he was involved enough to get his name in it. In November 1962, Dahl's eldest child, Olivia, died from the measles at seven years of age. It's like his sister, same age. Her death led to Dahl losing faith in God, viewing religion as a sham.

He went to former Archbishop of Canterbury, Jeffrey Fisher, his old headmaster for spiritual guidance. and he was dismayed when he was told that while Olivia would be in heaven, her dog would never join her there. Thinking back to that conversation, Dahl later recalled, I wanted to ask him how he could be so absolutely sure that other creatures did not get the same special treatment as us. I sat there wondering if this great and famous churchman really knew what he was talking about and whether he knew anything about God or heaven.

And if he didn't, then who in the world did? You know, he just started doubting it. I was like, I don't have this joke and knows what he's talking about. And if not him, he's basically the king of the Church of England, if I understand that right? The king's that, isn't he? But you know what I mean. The king of the church. So the 1960s, we're very tough for the Dahl family.

Following his son's injuries and his daughter's passing, his wife, Patricia, suffered multiple cerebral aneurysms while pregnant with their fifth child, Lucy. She was in a coma for three weeks And one newspaper even ran an obituary for her But she pulled through So at that stage she was an Academy Award winner This is after the Academy Award? Yeah Wow

Wow So you know It was big news at the time And a paper's running an obituary Same is gone Comer for three X But she pulled through And gave birth to her healthy child

Wow The aneurysms led to a lengthy rehabilitation process where she had to relearn how to walk and talk. But she, and she also had to, you know, she went back to acting after that as well to such a high standard that she was once again nominated for an Academy Award in 1968, only a couple of years later. That was for her role in the subject was roses,

another film I'm not familiar with, but, yeah, obviously very good actress. That's crazy. She lost on this occasion. Oh, what the fuck? To tied winners, which I didn't... Does that happen very often? Pretty rarely.

And this doesn't seem right. Barbara Streisand. And she won a Best Actress Award. Yeah. Wow. And Catherine Hepburn. So that's quite a big double. You know Catherine Hepburn, who won four.

Streisand? Best Actress Academy Awards. Yeah, and the other Hepburn, won an egot, right? Is that right? No. Audrey headburn, but they're not related. Not related.

And so do Whoopi Goldberg. They're not related. The two headburns, no. Really? Catherine and Audrey Hepern. I thought they were. No, there you go. They're not related.

No. I reckon we'd be able to find you realizing that in the Academy Awards episode as well. No. Did we talk about that? Sure, also won an Academy Award. Yeah. Sure.

Yeah, she's amazing. But the headburns? Really? Yeah, it did feel like they'd be sisters, right? What are the odds? They look similar. They're the only two Hepburns I've ever heard of. Me too.

Apart from Hepburn Springs, the out-suburb of Melbourne. Yes, which is named after them. But Johnny Hepburn. Oh, sorry, also Johnny Hepburn. Who I assume exists somewhere. What about Christopher Walk and Hepburn? Oh, obviously Christopher Walk and Hepburn. Despite the tough times.

through the 1960s. Dahl had another much more successful go at writing fiction aimed at children during this time. He wrote classics such as 1961's James and the Giant Peach. I know it. Oh, a film that terrified me as a child. I loved it. Really?

I didn't like how he was treated badly by the step. Yeah. He gets adopted out or grandparents or auntie and uncle. Very common motifs through his stories. Yeah, being treated and then having to go. off into your own little like imaginary world. Yeah. And that, some were saying that, you know, his dad died when he was young.

A lot of orphans, the heroes of the stories are often. And then he was off to boarding school and there were a lot of really tough adults around, you know, beating him down. And so that was potentially one of the reasons why a lot of his stories went that way. He also wrote, 1964's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, which was obviously. It was very popular. And 1970s, Fantastic Mr. Fox. I loved Fantastic Mr. Fox.

All of these have been adapted for stage and or screen, as well as later classics such as the BFG and Matilda, and many of those becoming really big hits. Like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and the BFG were adapted for screen multiple times. The big question is, Gene Wilde or Johnny Depp? There is no question. It depends on what you're talking about.

Who did, sorry, the question, who did it worse? If the question is, who smuggled small dogs in Australia, then I think it is. That was a question, yes. In the 1960s, Dahl also wrote some screenplays, including adaptations for two Ian Fleming novels. We talked about this, didn't we? He did one of the Bond movies and then also Titty-Titty Bang back. That's right. Yeah, that's right, yeah.

That's the Bond movies. Link. Chee, Chitty Bang Bang. You Only Live Twice, was the Bond film and also Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Hmm. He also began writing the screen adaptation for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but after failing to meet deadlines, the job was taken away from him. It was taken over by David Seltser, who changed the storyline in a few minor ways, but

Dahl was unhappy with these changes, and he ended up disowning the film, and was particularly disappointed with how he thought it placed too much emphasis on Willie Wonka and not enough on Charlie, which is pretty well illustrated by the fact that the movie version changed the name. From Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to Willie Wonka in the Chocolate Factory. That film came out in 1971. His disappointment led him to refuse any further remakes of the book or its sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator in his lifetime.

So a remake, obviously, with Johnny Depp was made not until after he passed away. Spoiler a lot. Do you guys picture a certain kind of illustration with Roldau books? Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. I totally do as well. That's sort of, it's pretty loose and scratchy.

Scratchy. Yeah. I'm imagining the witches. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I was a big fan of the Twits. The Twits, yes. Did you realize, though, that illustrator,

he only got on board with the 1978 book, The Enormous Crocodile. I remember that one. And the illustrator. straight as his name was Quentin Blake. Yeah. So for the first,

you know, 15, you know, years or so of him writing children's books. They, they, people didn't have

those pictures in their heads when they were reading along. Not until 1978. And from then on, sort of.

This is again quoting from the monthly, there's a paragraph here about Blake. In Blake, Dahl found an artist who perfectly

captured both the humor and the grotesquery of his writing, which is a fucking sick word, grotesquery. So good. Blake's line drawings are one reason why Dahl's books have not dated.

Unlike the visual style of Enid Blighton's Famous Five series, the present-day appeal of which is self-consciously retro. Blake's illustrations are essentially timeless, and in their zest, they fairly bounce off the page, with a kinetic energy that complements Dahl's own enthusiastic choice of words, and the physical transformations to which his characters are so often subject. Okay, so I've touched on a little bit of... dodgy stuff about him.

I was going to say he seems pretty good. Yeah, apart from just being a little bit backwards, but... Yeah, and anyway, this is sort of... The most controversial thing about him is probably this. I didn't know a lot about him before reading up on him this week. He killed several people. You know, a day. It was a habit.

I helped him write. I'd be interested to know if... if you guys knew about this, I definitely didn't. He was a bit of an anti-Semite. Oh, no, I did not know that. Did you know that day? Did not know that at all. Yeah, it feels wild that it's still like movies are being made of his books.

He's still seen as like a legend, but it's, yeah, pretty full on. This is what he said once to a reporter. There's a trade in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity. I mean, there is always. a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere. Even a stinker like Hitler doesn't just pick on them for no reason. Oh, no. I see.

But at least he said Hitler was bad. That's true. He said he was a stinker. He doesn't agree with Hitler. But he doesn't pick on him for no reason. Yeah, Hitler had a point. What a wild thing to say. He said that to a journalist.

No. Yes. Not good. So now I'm going to give you some sort of some people trying to make excuses for him a bit, okay? There were other examples of similar things that he'd said. Stephen Spielberg directed the film adaptation of his book, Dahl's book, The Big Friendly Giant in 2016. He's Spielberg's a Jewish filmmaker. I don't know if you've heard of him.

Steven Spielberg, you guys? No. No, but I'm willing to hear him out. When he was asked at Cannes Film Festival about these things, he said, I wasn't aware of any of Roald Dahl's personal stories. I was focused on the story he wrote. Later, when I began asking questions of people who knew Dahl, they told me he liked to say things he didn't mean just to get a reaction.

And all his comments, which I've now read about, about bankers, are all very old-fashioned. Mid-30 stereotypes we hear from Germany. that he would say for effect, even if they were horrible things. So he's sort of, it's like he's going, nah, I was just trying to get a rise out of people. He's just being a shit-stero. Hmm.

Which is, feels, to me, kind of unlikely. Like, you don't say that. I mean, it's not like a punk. He's a children's writer. Yeah. He's like, fuck the man. Fuck the man. He's a magical chocolate factory.

Woo! His Wikipedia, um, they'd go into it a bit as well, quoting Amelia Foster, who's the director of the Roll Dahl Museum, talking about these quotes, Amelia's quote is saying, this is again an example of how Dahl refused to take anything seriously, even himself. He was very angry at the Israelis. He had a childish reaction to what was going on in Israel. Dahl wanted to provoke, as he always provoked at dinner. His publisher was a Jew, his agent was a Jew, and he thought nothing but good things of them. He asked me to be his managing director and I'm Jewish. So he's sort of

saying, no, some of his best friends are Jewish kind of thing. And there was a quote from Dahl also saying that he wasn't anti-Semitic. He was anti-Israeli. So he was, but I don't know. Yeah, fuck. And the director of the museum there does seem like they're sort of defending their life as well. Yeah. A bit like the Simpsons where she exposes Jebedire Springfield as a fraud. Totally. The director of the Springfield Museum is like, no, no, got to cover that. up because I've directed my, dedicated my life to this. This guy being a hero, yeah. Yeah, totally.

It is exactly that. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the Simpson spoofing this. He died in 1990. Same year the Simpsons started. I don't know if that's a coincidence. It started an 89, didn't it? Yeah. But the same year that Jess and I started our lives.

Yeah, he died when you were born. Do you think maybe your spirit lives on and you guys? Definitely, yes. I've got some opinions. And I love chocolate. And factories. So obviously that's all pretty fucked. And the other thing that came up a bit reading about him, you know, from people talking negatively about him, was his sort of more old-school fashion opinions about women.

That's not the right. I'm being like, I'm coding it. He's misogynistic. Okay. Yep. So the monthly article also talked about some of those themes. running into a lot of his writing, especially his adult fiction, but also some of his children's fiction. And they said that the women characters in Dahl's children's stories are split between being

benign and evil, one of the two. And then he's not particularly positive with his women. Yeah, so it's really hard to do this sort of report where you're talking about a guy and then you're going to, you're going to wrap up the story. Or it's like, if it's like, anyway, you know, he went on to have successes. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how to do this particularly, but at the same time, you've got to be balanced. Give us the good and the bad, you know?

So his last second of his life, died in 1990, last decade of his life, was super successful writing. This is also when he's saying a lot of these fucked up things. Great. But he had a lot of his big hits. He's like, I'm saying these things and I'm getting bigger.

It's working. This is the monthly again. Dahl wrote several of his best books, the BFG, the witches, Matilda, and his two volumes of his autobiography, Boy and Going Solo, during the 1980s, the final decade of his life. He had been re-energized by a second marriage, so he divorced her for 30 years and remarried, basically, straight away, to a woman named Felicity Lickie Crossland.

It'd be Lissy, it'd be Lissy. No, Licky. Likki. Call it Flicky Licky Lik. With whom he had conducted. a long-term love affair. Oh, he's also a cheater. How many Academy Awards is Flicky Licky one?

Yeah, who's... Who the fuck is Flicky Licky? Who's cheating? Not an Academy Award winner. Get your bloody house in order. Rolled? Rolled. His four remaining children had all grown up

and he was an aging man writing for a vast and eager fan base of young readers. In his maturity, he had learned a certain tenderness. Not for everyone. He got soft with that. age. Probably no. Everyone except a certain type.

Yeah. Women. I said two certain types. Which is a large population of this planet. Yeah. I'd say quite a large population. Probably no one who has read the witches has ever forgotten the book's ending. Have you read the witches?

I have not because I do not know the book's ending. I have read the witches, but I don't remember how it ends. Oh, that's interesting. So this monthly article As soon as I say it As soon as you say it I'll know Alright let's put a spoiler or let in case you want to read the witches

Yeah spoiler if anyone's about to read the witches Skip for a minute I've seen the movie as a kid Which I found I remember finding quite scary That was one of the things you know Oh didn't they turn the boy into a mouse Yeah And all the witches pretend to be women

They're very pretty But underneath their hideous freaks Which is some people saying is like That's clear That's him being a bit Like women underneath you know don't trust them. They're all hiding something.

That's just true. Can I, so he turns, the little boy gets turned into a mouse and he spends basically the whole time trying to get turned back into a boy, but he doesn't. That's right. Yeah. Okay, I do remember. So I'm going to read the last few lines out of it, which this monthly article also quoted. Well, you sum that up nice.

He doesn't get turned back into a boy. And this is a little dialogue between him and his grandmother. Yeah. How old are you? grandmamma, I ask. I'm 86, she said. Will you live another eight or nine years? I might, she said, with a bit of luck.

You've got to, I said. Because by then I'll be a very old mouse, and you'll be a very old grandmother, and soon after that, we'll both die together. Yeah, brutal. So he's a boy going, I know how long mice live. Yeah, I've worked out the average age of a mouse. Which seems long.

I didn't realize mice live that long, but anyway. Well, maybe when they're living with an elderly woman who looks after them, yeah. Out in the wild where cats can get them. Just as a, like a boy, imagine, like his, and sort of saying like that's rolled sort of, all right, that's how it is. Move on. My dad died. He just died.

He just kept yelling that all the time. My dad died. Every time the publisher said, maybe we should change that. My dad died. No, you're right. Yeah, right. I'm so sorry. He died 70 years ago.

So sorry. Dahl died on November the 23rd, 1990. from an unspecified infection at the age of 74. Over his decade-long writing career, Dale composed 19 children's books and nine short story collections. Dale's popularity in Australia, at least, is still very strong. Over the last decade, each of Dal's leading children's titles, Matilda, the Witches, the BFG and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

have all made roughly $1 million in local sales. Just in Australia. Yeah. Wow. Books. How about him? So he would have been mega rich. Yeah.

I mean, all of those sales then are after he died. But he was selling even better during his life. But yeah, he's just an evergreen sort of popularity worth. I don't think a lot of people know about the hate in his soul. That's funny. I'll finish with this line again from the monthly article that I'll finish with this line again from the monthly article that I obviously love so much, which I should link to if anyone wants to read it in full.

This is quoting Dahl. I believe that mentally I'm a sort of overgrown child. Child. I'm an overgrown child. He wrote in 1986 for the Sunday Times. He described himself as a giggler, a lover of childish jokes and knock knocks. My ears are burning.

A chocolate and sweet eater. And a raging anti-Semi chairs. Is that the next part? And a person with one half of him that has completely failed to grow up and understand that Jewish people are just people too. One half of him is failed to grow up. Which half? Yeah.

He looks down on his legs. Children's legs. Seven-year-old's legs. He's that tiny philosopher. God damn it. And that is my report. What a conflicted story. Yeah.

I didn't know it. Reminising about these childhood stories and he was the big friendly giant, six foot six. You know, he went through so many tough things and he's like it. And he has that sort of famous quote about like thinking good thoughts. Right, yeah. You know, like getting good thoughts and then his face will be beautiful. I mean, Pete probably said it a bit better, but he was a writer. What am I, a bloody podcaster?

Hey? How about it? Well, Rolla Don never even appeared on a podcast. podcast, so fuck him. Yeah, fuck that guy. I'm going to find my question now. My parents went to see Roll Dahl Speak in the, it was probably the 80s when he came out to Australia.

Really? That's cool. And it said on the thing, this is for adults only, this is not a kids event. This is not a kids event. Then when they went along, some people had brought their kids, and apparently he came out and fucking cracked the shits. There were kids there and made him leave. Oh, brutal.

This is not like, I'm not talking about my kids' books. You, get the fuck out. Adult writer. That is tough. That is tough for everyone concerned. The parents haven't read the... That same person wrote, if you have good thoughts,

they'll shine out of your face like sunbeams and you'll always look lovely. Now get the fuck out! So, you know, we're all... We've all got... We've all got floors, I guess. Yes. Pelvic floors.

We've all got pelvic floors. It is true. Some of us wear waterproof sacks because our pelvic floors are not as good as others. Now, thank you for that. Dave, just moved on, as he should have. Go for it, Dave, sorry. And thank you for that great report there, Matt. Very good.

Very good report, Matt. Very good stuff. Thanks, Jess. A crazy life. My sassy twin. Sass twins. We'd like to thank you. We'd like to thank Roll Dahl for ever living so we could talk

about him and we'd also like to thank everyone that supports the show in any way just for downloading you supporting the show also harry me andy kevin and oscar for suggesting the topic yes thank you guys did you guys know that he was a bit of it is that why you asked us to do the topic are they also anti-semites no i just thought maybe they were like anti-semites because you know it definitely at another dimension oh man i still haven't gotten over it i only weren't that yesterday you mean last week when you started this report. No, it was at the end? I'd pretty much written the report and I'm like, oh, fuck.

Imagine if I did it and just... Glossed over it. Yeah. Here's a question. Now you know what you know. Are you less inclined to want to engage with his material? Yeah. In your life?

Yes. I need to introduce it to future generations of your family. Or are you a bit like, no, I don't want to read that now. Does it affect it? I think it does affect me. I can't separate that well, like others can, between art and the artist. I find it hard to do... That's why you can't watch me do stand-up.

Because I know you're such a bad, dark-souled person. But the comedy is so good. Oh, it's so so-so-good. Political, biting. Fuck, she's poignant. Just put down the mirror. I can't stand to look at myself in the rest of society. Yeah.

That's how I feel. Jess, I didn't realize what pathos meant until you adorned the stage. Adorn. With pathos. With pathos. It was everywhere. Oh wow. She was hanging it from the ceiling.

Ornamental pathos. I thought it was like a... Yeah, I didn't realize it was actually just a decoration. There's a curtain on the stage. Anyway, let's thank some Patreon, peace. Yeah, so what we're trying to do here is thank everyone that supports the show through Patreon. Patreon.com slash do go on pod for all your Patreon he needs, including where you can get a bonus episodes of the show.

If you support us there. and a little shout out at the end of the episode and Jess, we've got some people you'd like to thank that support us through Patreon I do have some people I'd like to thank and I do need to apologise early because I'm going to say your name wrong and I'm sorry and God bless you

What's the game this week Dave? I was going to say the game could be giving them a role dull like children's book title Oh okay You know? Like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory What if it's just them

and the giant something. Okay. Zem and the giant something, great. So the first person I want to thank from Swansea in the UK is Seri John Jones. Sherry John, C-E-R-I. What's that, Dave? C-E-R-I. C-E-R-I.

C-E-R-J-J-Jones. It's a great name either way. It's a good name. John-N-A-Jones works well. Yeah, so good, right? So thank you very much. Seri John Jones and the giant dufe

The giant dupe Where were you going with that? If you can own one giant thing You do not want a giant dupe Why not? Be so snuggily Oh I'm imagining like giant Like it's big enough to wrap up my house Yeah then your house is snuggly

You've got a whole world under there Oh that's so snuggly And it's all snuggly You live in a snuggly world And he can get under there to get away from your abusive adoptive, adoptive parents. Yeah, imagine the adventures you could get up to. Dave.

It's like life is one big pillow fort. That's exciting. That's really exciting. Excellent. And the other person I would definitely like to thank as well from Prenton is Toby Chanon. That's how they call my own. Shannon. Shannon.

Chanan. Chanan. Shannon. Toby Chanan. Toby Chan. Thank you, Toby. And the giant. Uncle Toby.

Bobby's bar. Toby Chanon for the joint Uncle Toby's bar. I'd read that. We're discovering... I'd read that. I'd read that.

We're discovering that Rolla may have been a genius after all. It's harder to come up with it that we thought. Disagree. This is very easy. All right, Matt. Next. What are we got?

I'd love to thank you, if I may, John Faulner. Fauna. That can't be right. John Faler. Hell now. He's from Marrickville, New South Wales.

Oh, please come to our show, John. Marrickville, yeah, that's in Sydney, right? Yeah. John. That's like, there's a famous thing in Maricville. What's the famous Maricville thing? And what's his name? It's just a beautiful, trendy area.

Yeah, but what's his story? Oh, sorry. What's your name again? John. John Falner. John Falner. John Falner. and the giant athletics track.

Yes. Nine kilometres in circumference. Oh, it's huge. No man or woman has ever completed it without stopping for a piss break. You can definitely run 9Ks, Dave. No man or woman. Wow. And so what kind of adventures does he get up to?

Mainly training for the big run. You've given him a burden. I'd also love to thank from Nelson in New Zealand. Leroy Emmanuel Flynn Oh, Leroy, Emmanuel Flynn. Triptitch. Apart from Pat Pat, Pat,

that's the best time we've had on the whole show. Leroy, Emmanuel Flynn. Nelson, New Zealand. All right, so it's Leroy, Emmanuel, I'm going to give you a run-up, Jess, and you're going to give me the... Don't think. Blank your mind, blank your mind.

Let's just see what happens here. It's already pretty blank. Leroy, Emmanuel, Flynn. and the giant... Banana. Wow, she got a run-up for that. Banana. Man, he's going to have potassium for days.

Lucky bars. Well, on, Leroy. Enjoy. Enjoy, Roy. Thanks so much for the support, Leroy, and John. My two favourites this week. I'd like to thank a couple of my own favourites. All the way from incredible place name coming up.

Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Oh, fuck, yeah. That's good. That's really cool. I'd like to thank Robert Chimente. Chimente. Robert Chimente. Oh, that is it.

Man, the names today have been great. Very good names. Robert Chimenti and the giant crispy chicken sub. Oh, okay. And banana was dumb. He kept chasing it. He kept chasing like, Krispy chicken.

Sub, because you can't just have crispy chicken. It's got to be in something. I haven't finished yet. No, I'm done. I'm done. Robert Jimenezi and the Giant Chicken Soup. Krispy chicken soup. Great.

Thanks, Robert. We appreciate you listening in bloody Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. I wonder, because Broken Arrow is the name of a 90s film starring John Travolta and Christian Slater. Is it? I wonder if that is where he lives in a 90s action film. I think so. I think we can safely assume that. Robert Chimonte in the giant 90s action film.

That's why I put it. There it is. There it is. Very, very cool. And I've got one final president thing this week. And they are from Manchester. Manchester? Manchester.

Okay. And that is Jack Marshland. Marshland. Okay, Matt, this is you. Ready? I'm giving you a run up. I think that's Marsland. Reading over your shoulder there

It may have auto-corrected I do apologize What we do is we write down Each of your names at the start And it didn't recognise Marsland As a word So it was like Did you mean Marshland

So I'm going to say Jack Marsland And the giant Marshland Very confusing Oh, that's very good But that was Matts go God you're selfish Dave Look I came out

If you come up If you come up with Giant Kris Chicken strip sub Whatever I said Then you deserve a second go It's a carryover champ And I won You deserve a second go because you're fucked the first one.

I begged for a second go off mic. I said to Matt, please, let me do that. And thank you, Jack Marsland and the Giant Marshland. Well, it's unfortunate because I'd really blanked my mind. I was ready to say something. That takes a lot of mindfulness. It does take a lot of mindfulness. I'm really mindful right now.

Dave, but you filled it with Marshland. Sorry. Jess Perkins and the giant. Deish. The fuck is a deach? I'm going to have to Google it because that was, that came from

somewhere right inside my brain. How would you spell that? D-W-E-S-H, I think. Just Perkinson the giant, D-E-She. It was just like, oh no.

It was like, D-E-S, what am I saying? All right, there's an urban dictionary. Oh, this will not be good. Dish. It's always sexual.

It's always sexual on urban dictionary. Oh, no, this is, Good. Oh, this is... What's a dish? She's very apt.

Deish. Deish. This is so, Jess. To do your damn thing, no matter what anybody else says or does, to be true to yourself because nobody else can. I do that in a giant way. That is your deach.

You are a deach. Am I a deach? You're a giant deeche. Absolutely not a dish. Oh, there's a second one. Deach bag. A word used to substitute any other word you want or used to cut somebody off.

Other forms. Disha, Disha-fied, Dishina-Fi, got damn Dish, et cetera. I hate everything you're saying. There's no good, right? First one was good. There's an example here. Man, I was Dishin at Mr. Simpson, right? When this one chick was talking about she was trying to slide on me one time and Dish.

Oh, that's what it means. That definition was from 2009. A good year. It's time changed. Time's changed. In a way... I was trying to slide up and I was like, what the D? Is that what it would?

Yeah. The second one just means any word. Any word, which is what we will... Jess and the Giant anything is what we're looking for. She's very lonely. She'll take Giant Anything. Jess Perkins and the Giant to do your damn thing, no matter what anybody else.

says or does to be true to yourself because no one else can. No one else can. What a story that is. You go. Deach. You go, girl. You get your dish on. Holy shit.

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