Two In The Think Tank - 106 - Star Wars with MR SUNDAY MOVIES

Episode Date: November 1, 2017

Star Wars is a topic that has often been requested, but none of us felt worthy to tackle it, so we brought in the big guns! Mr Sunday Movies is the host of the Weekly Planet podcast which is an awesom...e comic book movie related pod. Today though, he's taking us through one of the biggest movie franchises of all time - Star Wars! Check it out!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comMr Sunday MoviesTwitter: @mrsundaymoviesPodcast: https://www.planetbcasting.com/our-shows/the-weekly-planet/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. I'm here with Matt and Jess and also a very special guest. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. Sunday movie. Hello. Oh my God. Thank you for having me. I'm here to break the rhythm of your show. Sometimes when a guest comes on the show, I'm like, I don't like this, because it's the flow's gone. I've already done it.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I've talked for too long. Somebody else says something. Now you're just over thinking you're in your own head now. I talk with stuff, I talk with stuff. How are you? I'm good, I'm doing all right. Yeah, I've got a beer. Matt's feeling good.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Matt's trying to have the beer, because Matt, let's talk about how we're recording on your B day. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy 113th birthday. We are actually the same age. What? You're also 113. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look great. You look
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Starting point is 00:02:29 Yes. Yep, beautiful. And maybe the most famous podcast that in the world, certainly in the room. Certainly the most famous goat. The podcast. Yeah. Does that screaming Taylor Swift goat? Holy shit, I love that so much that's a more famous goat for those They don't know what that is including me what the fuck is that? Ah if so there's this goat there Any of a goat and it's making this weird noise kind of like But then people have put that into the Taylor Swift song Trouble so she yeah, yeah, it's real great now. I'm lying on the cold hard
Starting point is 00:03:25 So fucking funny, it's really funny like I've first saw yeah it's real great. Now I'm lying, the best. My class used to request that. They'd be like, play the Taylor Swift goat seed. So funny. If you guys are good, I'll play the Taylor Swift goat. It's multi-generational that joke. Yeah. I'll show you after. It's worth it.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah, it is. So good. The one that made me go like that was the Jurassic Park theme. I mean, it's similar to the political. It sounds very funny. I watched that 100 times. I first saw, I was in a cold rock. Oh yeah. Oh, late night ice cream. You always remember the first time you saw it. Yeah, cold rock. What'd you get? My cousins played it for me. I don't, I didn't
Starting point is 00:03:59 need. No, I'm just social, I'm a socialist creamer sure you go into the conversations. Yeah One loves conversation please That's nice yeah good for you in a waffle cone In a waffle cone. Yeah, good have a waffle. Yeah, I get it. I didn't mean that was not Sometimes he's best jokes he doesn't mean And I go really good and then he realizes what is it what you go so I've done a few the few times lately it shows With a crowd of give me like a groan because I've done a pun and then I realize I oh hang on
Starting point is 00:04:40 Didn't mean that how dare you think I did that on purpose I didn't mean that. How dare you. How dare you think I did that on purpose. Okay. Now, for the 0.001% of our listeners that don't know who you are, you are one of the co-hosts of the weekly podcast. I am, yes. With the fabulous Nick Mason, who's been a guest on the show many a time.
Starting point is 00:04:57 He's out for you. He's out for you, then. Oh, right, yeah, absolutely. Nick who? You are now our sixth Beatles. Yeah, you're our sixth Beatles. Oh, that's nice. I'll take that. Absolutely. Yeah, good for you
Starting point is 00:05:07 That's that's the spot you want definitely. Yeah, someone dies. I'm in yeah Thank you for us And you're part of slash one of our the head honchos of the network. We're part of plant broadcasting Mostly clear, but yes people will know your voice from the start of our episodes Yeah, the worst thing in the world. We're going to redo that soon as well because the website is changing. We've got Planet Broadcasting.com. It's all unfolding in a big way. What six-figure sum did you have to give out to get that?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I do not want to tell you. It's some son of a bitch got in. Oh no. I wanted six figures, but it was more than three figures oh that's too many figures yeah I know yeah well done yeah so I did what a wily business man that person was I did a few ads for things that I hate just do cover it it's wondering why you're doing those heroin spots Everyone's boss. I'm the big fan. This podcast brought to you by Heroin.
Starting point is 00:06:05 This bunks in my skin. Heroin. We are really good at advertising. Anyway, let's do a pod. We've had a lot of requests to have you on the show. Yes. And it's taken a bit of wrangling, bit of a scheduling to get you in here. We are very thankful to you.
Starting point is 00:06:24 No, it's a lot of my fault lot of people have to speak to your people. That's right. No, that's absolutely my fault. A bunch of really bad and weird stuff happened to Claire and I in the first few months, so everything's been getting pushed back. I was telling you before the show, she could knock to take that recently, so that was pretty fucked up. But that is...
Starting point is 00:06:41 But also, it's strange that you put that above being a guest on our podcast. Oh, this is a prairie, I think. Yeah, it's really weird. Priority's mad. That is, but also the strains that you put that above, but you guessed on our podcast. I was with a free, I think. Yeah, it's really weird. Priorities, mate. Yeah, yeah, but no, it's such a good show. I think I've listened to probably 90% probably more. Interested which ones have you?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah, we're like, it's too many to play. Or I spoke of something positive. That always happens with positive and negative feedback. I would actually listen to the Hugh Heffner one on the way. What a guy. I'm not up to the weird creep stuff yet. He only gets better. With age, then death.
Starting point is 00:07:15 That's cool. I'm glad you listened. I'm not finished yet. I'm not to the real weird stuff yet. So far, he's a hero. He's a big hero. Yeah. Yeah. The way that we get into the topic of the day is with a question.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You better believe it. And you're, you're giving us the topic today. You brought it in. We kind of know what the broad topic is. That's right. I kind of fluctuated because I was originally going to do just Star Wars. There's so much Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And then I did, it was going to do just George Lucas. and then going through that that kind of bled into the original Star Wars Trilogy so I'm like I'll just talk about the original Star Wars Trilogy See and the goings on you guys all Star Wars fanatics I only I'd only seen two until about five years ago. And an ex-girlfriend was a massive fan and we watched all six at the time. And I've watched the two new ones at the cinemas. Yes, very good. And I think I fell asleep in the last one.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I felt like, I think I reckon 20 minutes into the one from last year. I was like, I don't think I could do this every year. The one before I was really excited. I'm like, I mean, these are the first ones. I was like, oh, I don't think I could do this every year. The one before I was really excited. I'm like, I mean, these are the first ones. I'm like a current fan, while I come in out. I was like, oh, it's bloody back. Yeah, that was great fun. And then the next one, I'm like, oh, this seems similar.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Right, yeah, yeah, space. It's still like I like it, but it just feels a bit the same. Yeah, yeah. The people that mixed on that one, that last one. So, yeah, you're not alone. Even still. Well, I mean, I fell asleep. Yeah. So, I don't fully So yeah, you're not alone. Even still. Well, I mean, I fell asleep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So I don't fully know if I liked it or not. But I did love that last scene, which I think a lot of people did where, dust, dust, scoff, what? Dust guy, Walker. Dust guy. Dust, Vader. What's in the face?
Starting point is 00:08:58 You're thinking of the bad guy from the line. Like he's got. Played by the same man. No, but Darth Vader was in that movie as the Mufasa. That's correct, yeah. But anyway, well, new listeners will not still be listening at this stage or anyone who's gone up, I've Googled Star Wars podcasts and I did not get five minutes into this. Jump over to Steel Wars.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's be back. What was I talking about? Darth Vader. You fell asleep in the last. Oh yeah, Darth Vader, Vader like tore apart a corridor of people that was sick that was a late inclusion That wasn't really I was thinking kind of this film feels like it should be over and there's been no lightsaber action Yeah, pretty disappointed. Oh my god. This is cool So you notice there was no lightsaber action
Starting point is 00:09:41 So you're definitely a person who understands I like going I got all the styles at the movies because my favorite thing about it is the soundtrack. Oh it's great soundtracks. I loved it. It's some of the best music and I love hearing it in that sort of surround sound, massive theatre style. I love that. Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For example, yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely from it. That's right. That's a good one. That's a good one That's a good little bit emotional when I hear the Man, it feels I feel that every time I miss the
Starting point is 00:10:12 Scroll or whatever you call it I Know the one before that I got there five minutes like I missed it like literally I feel like they should do it in those as well. It's very confusing too. But it feels like just doing it. If you didn't know what that was, you'd be like, where are... what is this? Yeah. What's your favourite thing of Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:10:33 We're all set of favourites. Ah, Jabba the Hat. Yeah, he's... You say Jabba? Jabba. The incident code. Good update, like Jabba. I love Jabba.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Is that what it is? Jabba script. I love it. Jabba out there. Not yeah, jabber the hot. What's his? Oh my god. They are hot. He's a hot. Yeah. So those guys I like pizza the hot. I'm from space balls. Yeah. Anyway, I'm editing a lot of this out. We'd almost start the episode with a question. I just wanted to ask so just have you seen them? Yeah. And that is a question. Yeah, I think I've talked to them. Yeah, good. Oh, this is all of them? I think, no.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yes, no. You'll probably say some stuff, and you'll be like, yeah, I'm vaguely familiar with that. I'm a question. Most people will know them, even if they don't. It's like Beatles songs. You've got to know them even if you don't know them. Yeah, my question is though, this isn't a great question.
Starting point is 00:11:20 How many of the original Star Wars films were directed by George Lucas? Oh, sorry. Oh, oh. See, I would would have assumed all, but the fact you're asking the question. Yeah, but is he tricking us? I feel like I heard something about this where there was something like a strike or something, and he wasn't able to do the last one or something. There was something like that, but that's why that's why.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But it's in name maybe, dude, or something. I'm gonna say three. Okay. was just two I can one and three okay He just did the first one he did the original and then he stepped away yeah Yeah, absolutely, but if you come back for four five and six is it right? I know sorry one two and three if you're getting Technical with the yeah, sorry people will Believe me yep Yeah, technical with the sorry people will believe me. Yeah, let's send those emails to I do not give a fuck at g9.com Okay, we definitely to register the email address Yes, let's jump on that. I want that So that's the topic. Well, it's topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, do you want to get into it?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Get into it. Well, with yourself, many people have requested that we do a Star Wars topic. And nearly all of them have said, cannabis the Sunday movies do it. Should we like to say thank you to these people on Twitter for suggesting it's Ben M. Davies, Austin Brackett, Taco Matic, personal favorite there. And I think it may even get better with Wengen's hoarder. Very good.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I recognize some of those names. That's really cool. They all requested that you start. Talk about the Star Wars. They made this happen. That's beautiful. George Lucas was born. I'm just going to do all this.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Is that cool? It's so fun. It was born in 1944. He's parent. No. His parents were off a supply. They sold off a supplies and owned a walnut ranch. Apparently great combo.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I know, right? Some people are active-slash-thing and some people are offer supplies. Slash-show walnut branches. I didn't look into whether they've left. What do you mean? You hate to know. I thought that just meant that's like a horse place.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, no, you can have anything. Well, he's got, Skywalker Ranch is now a thing where they do all the films are now made out of. It's a ranch dressing. Ranch dressing, is it? Ranch dressing, yeah. That's it. As a teenager, he was kind of aimless.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And all he wanted to do was be a car mechanic and race cars and just do whatever. It wasn't a great student. But then he got this horrific automobile accident that said, should have killed him, like any other person, for whatever reason he got out of it in the live. And from then, he went, you know what,
Starting point is 00:13:42 I'm gonna do the things I love every day from now on is a gift. Hang on, but he was doing the thing you love which was racing cars and it fucked him up. Yes, that's a lot of good choice. Maybe you should just settle and just become complacent. Yeah, that's what I'd probably do. Yeah, that's what I've done. What's the point? It's be safe. Yeah, it'd be killing any second.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But yeah, he loved social science and anthropology and photography which led him into film. So he's great from school, went up in a big way, because he's like, like I said, every day is a gift, I'm going to do something. Those are the characters that was at school. It was before he started high school, but their high school was like, because you know, they have to be at school and I don't know how to do it. Right, actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah, it's a grassy junior high. Exactly, I'm sort of fresh then. Yeah, fresh then. And then you got, what else you got? Quarterback Quarterback Sofmo And there's Sofmo and also the queen of the dairy ball
Starting point is 00:14:31 What the fuck is wrong with you? Your girlfriend of the quarterback You're the prom queen? These are all stages that most Americans go through It's correct The queen of the dairy ball What the- what is that? What's a dairy ball?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, yeah, you're asking, because you never, you never got that one. And you know that's, I'm really sensitive about that. Well, George grew up in a ranch, and I have plenty of dairy balls there. I should just point out also, a lot of this information is conflicting. Like he sometimes says things different from other things,
Starting point is 00:15:00 so please don't email that address at Dave's. If you haven't, do not give a fuck. I'm gonna get you sketch of the circle. So we decided to go into the field industry but it was kind of, it was in an era where you couldn't do well, if you didn't know somebody or your dad wasn't the boss of Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Is that not still how it is? Absolutely, still how it is, yeah. But he kind of befriended, he befriended directors like Steven Spielberg and Francis Ford Coppola, so there were these young hot shot directors coming up together and instead of competing, his idea was and he kind of maintains us to this day that you boost each other up. So if one person gets a job, then they'll give, you know, offer somebody else a role in that particular film or if you go for a
Starting point is 00:15:37 job and you don't get it, you recommend a friend. So, op rising tide all ships, you know, that expression. Well, that expression. That's the theory behind planet broadcasting, am I life. That's the idea. That's mostly some weed on terrain. Everybody else gives us a float. Planet Broadcasting.com coming soon. Coming soon, that's right. So yeah, so at university or college, what do they call it?
Starting point is 00:15:58 A lot of film students complain that, I don't have enough, I can't make a film, I just want to make a film, but he'd take any opportunity, like he didn't have animation class, and they gave him one minute of 40 to make a short film from it, which ended up winning like 25 awards or something like that. Wow, you did this really well. A lot of awards. Yeah, I know, right? From one minute. Yeah, you should, it's this very student film, it's like, pictures of war and flowers and
Starting point is 00:16:18 fire and like, you're love, and at the end it's like, the end question mark. Oh, that kind of thing. So good. Yeah, but I'll, but no one had kind of done anything like that. So it's like, yeah, I know right. So it revamped the apparently the animation department according to him. And so he used to take any opportunity.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So it's like, if you give me a minute of film, I'm going to do something. I'll win 25 awards. Yeah, exactly. So that's the kind of the guy that he was. And he off the back of the short film, THX1138, he made a... It's such a catch time. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:16:48 You've got personality. I don't really know. You know exactly what it's about. I don't even see it. I don't need to see that. I've got it. A lot of people love it. I know it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I'm not a huge fan. Again, no fucks given. A team of people. That's right. So he made this kind of dystopian future where they control your thoughts and it's black and white and societies in your mind and whatever, you know, all that kind of stuff, if that makes any sense. But so, and from there, water brothers financed it through him and French Ford Coppola's
Starting point is 00:17:20 company, but they saw it and they were like, this sucks. And they released it, but it didn't make their money. Like. And they released it but it didn't make their money. Like it made some money but it didn't make their money back. So he's first in Debra. That was kind of was revolutionary at the time and a lot of people do love it to this day. It didn't do particularly well. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. Okay. And it was around this time that he went, okay, I'll transfer a couple of dead him to make like a like a teen fun comedy romance kind of thing. My favorite genre. Exactly. So in 1973 he made American graffiti with Ron Howard was in it who's now directing the new Star Wars. And Harrison Ford, a very young Harrison Ford and it's about car culture in the 50s so it's like what he grew up with. Yeah. And the studio again hated it. But this was universal this time and they
Starting point is 00:18:05 didn't want to release it. And then they ended up cutting out some footage of it and they did release it and it did super well. But he was always kind of resentful that they took his project and kind of altered it. That's amazing to me that studio is like we've spent a lot of money on this. I'd prefer just to put it in the bin. Just put it out there and see what happens and it just turns it to be a big success. I think because I guess it's marketing costs and putting it into cinemas, I guess they're trying to cut their losses at that point, but yeah, I'm with you. It also does feel a bit like... We'll give you all this money and then they come back two years later and they're like,
Starting point is 00:18:42 oh hang on, I probably should have monitored the process a bit more. Yeah, that's what we wanted. I was thinking, like when it's done, it's probably not the time to go. Actually, I have some edits to it. That's right. I have some, I've got some opinions. Yeah. Let's have a chat before it's done, I reckon. And a lot of it's because it was the new system kind of clashing with the old system. Like it was, it was a rebel, he's out there, you know, in a big way. But um, those, those rusty old dogs didn't know they were talking about. They certainly didn't. Bloody with their, in their ivory towers. Hey, how about them? Come down here, walk with the real man. Yeah. Shortly cropped grey beads. You better put them all, all those three have the same
Starting point is 00:19:20 beards. They all have the same beards, yeah. Which, yeah, I'm going to throw that. Yeah, no, that's not going to be an honest one. I'm going to be an honest one. I'm going to be an honest one. But I have about me. Just another talent. Money. But, uh, so, and this is when, uh, all this time, we had this idea for a, uh, a Flash Gordon
Starting point is 00:19:34 Esk space opera, because you used to love those cereals from the 30s. You know, Flash Gordon. Yeah, my granddad was really into them. So, yeah, yeah. He's the heaps of the comics. Yeah. He borrowed a lot of the, uh, the ideas from Flash Gordon. Flash Gordon invented the scrolling text. We're not invented, but maybe popularized it, which he the comics. Yeah, he borrowed a lot of the ideas from Flash Gordon Flash Gordon invented the scrolling text
Starting point is 00:19:46 We're not invented, but maybe popularized it which he used for For the first time. Yeah, Flash Gordon isn't the flash. He's a different guy Is he even from the he's not easy from Marvel? I don't know who owns him or even like he's some other way for somebody probably only I don't know who owns him now Gordon there was a TV show a few years back But there was a movie from the 80s, and if you've seen the movie Ted, it's referenced in that.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, it's tried to be. And it's the queen song. Yes, it is a queen. Ah, yeah, yeah, that was so good. But I've never seen it. Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom, it's very dramatic. I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And Ming the merciless, that is the best bad guy in there. Oh, that's where Ming the merciless is. There are a lot of very, very heavy Asian stereotypes in this kind of a lot of form. I love the name only. Not the stereotype. I love a long, wispy beard, that they all used to have with a lot of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:37 But he says that he was going for something flash Gordon. And there's also stories that he wanted flash Gordon. And they wouldn't give it to him So he's like I'm like my own flash Gordon sons of bitches So the script that he wrote was kind of steeped in like Joseph Campbell was the hero of a thousand faces. You guys familiar with that? It's like a it's a book he wrote It's basically about how all good or great mythology kind of borrows from the same source material like King Arthur Baywolf
Starting point is 00:21:05 and whatnot, they've got like an old knight, you know, like an Excalibur, a young adventurer, a princess, a commoner of leaf, like Star Wars draws on all of that. Like it's an old story with kind of a new skin on it. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, so, but so not at all inventive,
Starting point is 00:21:21 it's quite a simple sort of derivative. Derivative. It's a past simple sort of derivative. Derivative. It's a pastiche. Yeah, yeah, it's a pastiche. It's a pastiche with lightsabers, Matt. That's right. Just can't believe it. He's so hungover.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And he just, there was also the look on his face when he said pastiche. He ripped that out. Yeah, that's a fun word. I enjoyed that a lot, Matt. Thanks for that. It's no joke. Pastiche. It's my birthday, but you enjoyed that a lot, Matt. Thanks for that. It's no aristic, yeah. The steesh.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's my birthday, but you're getting the presents. Yeah. Matt, you're a gift every day. That's lovely. Matt and I were going through a real phase, or we were, we were budding heads. Oh, I heard. Yeah, and now we're really, we're working on it. We've come around.
Starting point is 00:21:59 We're working on it, and we're, we've never been stronger. Yeah. It's not cast has never been weaker. It's better when we're mean. I think the turning point was that when you told him he was cool, you know, some kind of like, is this genuine? He's going fuck you. Yeah, each one of them felt different every time he said it.
Starting point is 00:22:20 So I didn't even know it was a listener, what I was talking about. You know what, how big though? I didn't know what I made you more. I was just getting a reaction. It's fun. I put the record, Matt's use of the word pastiche was so cool. So cool. So cool.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You know, sorry. That's fine, that's all good. So sci-fi films up to this point, they hadn't really been super successful. There wasn't really blockbusters like there was today. Like, George was said to be like the first kind of real one, which isn't a sci-fi film, it's about a shark or something. Yeah. No, it is about a shark. Definitely, definitely.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And the need for a bigger boat. Correct. That's two, it's about two things. But the most successful film up to that point, that sci-fi film was 2001 Space Odyssey, which made 24 million. So that's like the best case scenario. Right, so he started with a 14 page treatment
Starting point is 00:23:04 which he bought to Universal and United Artists and they were like, this is rubbish and no. We've had and a follow up from that know. Go away. This is rubbish, how much do you want? It must have sounded like rubbish. Oh, it is funny to me in a world where sci-fi wasn't just unsuccessful.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. We were like, go, go. Yeah. No. It's not only rubbish, it's unfilmable. Right. There's none of the stuff that they did and it was made any sense. There was names of planets and people that didn't exist. It was set in the past. You keep changing the story. It's like, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:23:41 If you read like the original outline, it's like, this is, nobody would make this. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, so anyway, you bought it to Alan Ladd, Jr., who was there, one of our studio chiefs at 20th Century Fox, who was like, I don't get this, but you're great. So, we'll give you $8 million and you can do it. Because he liked American Graffiti,
Starting point is 00:24:00 and American Graffiti made $100 million or something like that. Oh shit. Yeah, you're pretty, yeah, you can do it. Just back to him. Just bloody back to him. That's cool. It's just a place. Massive gear change.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah. But he was kind of, he was pretty progressive and he was, yeah, if you see interviews with this guy, it's a pretty chill dude. Or he was just like, it's not my money, I don't care. Yeah. He's working. Blame.
Starting point is 00:24:20 That's like lab junior. I like that attitude. Yeah. It's not my money. Mm. Throw it all against the wall. And he copped a bit of flack as well. Like from the other studio executives, like during the filming, they were like,
Starting point is 00:24:31 lad, you've really blown it. He's sort of a bitch. But it was, it felt so sweet. I know, right? Oh. Yeah. Initially it was called The Star Wars. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I know, right? Because it, yeah, it's good, right? Because it's good, right? It's like the Facebook. Yeah, that's good. The Batman. The Batman. Yeah, so what your grandfather would call the movie? Yeah, that's a The Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I mean, you see this new thing, the Star Wars. The Star Wars. And you go, glampar. It's Star Wars. Yeah. It looks like Walker. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You don't get me. So in the original draft, or one of the many drafts, Luke was Luke Starkiller. Like Grandparents Starkiller. Starkiller, hate it, hate it. That's a bit aggressive, so they kind of went away from that. Darth Vader was just a guy in a space helmet. Like it wasn't...
Starting point is 00:25:20 They called him... They called him Space Helmet. It's a Space Helmet. Here comes Space Helmet. Ooh. Space Balls, it's his name was Big Helmet. Space Helmet. He's right, but here comes Space Helmet. Oh. Space Balls, it's his name was Big Helmet. Dark Helmet, that's it. But, because there was a concept art,
Starting point is 00:25:32 there was a picture, some a draw picture of him, which I'll talk about later briefly, where he was in a helmet. Now, we're just leaving him in that. So that was where that came from. So he's nude from the helmet down. How it's incorrect. Oh. Those little things that, you know, they're so iconic now,
Starting point is 00:25:46 the helmets and the Darth Vader costume is a big part of the success of them. Yeah, that's it. Ah, Hansol. Talking is hard today, I'm so excited. You got the station. Yeah, it's so good. You good.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Everything from Newspagina. Hansol, it was a green skined alien. Luke was at one point going to get it. Hans Solid was a green skinned alien. Luke was at one point going to be 60. The force was going to be about a kyber crystal. Like a crystal you had to guess, and it would give you powers. Oh, it was all thing. And his first script was like, oh, the script was like 200 pages.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And he went, I can't make this. I'll just do the first third. And that's how he did. That's how they all went. Did you just grab a certain amount of pages over the top of the day? Pretty much. We'll stop there. Yeah, that's how we did. That's how they all went. The easiest grab a certain amount of pages of the top and then we'll stop there. Yeah, that's fine. Did that become the trilogy?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, I mean, there's kind of, there's a debate as in how much he changed along the way because there's some people think that he, the Darth Vader Luke Skywalker father something wasn't, he didn't have that in mind. Right. Some people think he always had a planned out, but I think he didn't, I think he was making it up as he went along. And because that's what the kiss between Luke and Layout was At the time that wasn't yeah meant to be a weird thing. Yeah, that was definitely a late addition because they weren't supposed to be related We had my men in that movie. I bet he was like thank god. We cut the sex scene. Yeah, thank well
Starting point is 00:27:01 There was more kissing there's deleted scenes of them kissing more or getting real close. There's always more kissing. I'd love to get a copy. Sure, I've got it on me, so. Yeah. So it's Luke and Han and that. They're all the same species. They're all humans. They're all humans, right. So they've all come from Earth initially. Well, there's humans from different planets. But yeah, because this is from before. Yeah, before. before oh man. Yeah Where's he from career?
Starting point is 00:27:29 from old around but initially born on a moon Luke Skywalker's from Tatooine But it was also born on a moon because he was twins. Oh, it's based on I just put with those humans in this world Initially from earth and they went off to other point Star Wars is set a thousands of years in the past in another galaxy. Right, that's right. It's one of the things that's been in the galaxy far, far away. So it would have been hard for them to come from Earth.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. So it's just another universe where humans came together at the same time. Yes. And look exactly the same. That's right. Yeah, but how many lungs do they have? I've done a good question. I've never opened one up.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They've never done that in a film. Right. Well, there's a few. What holes here George? But in the original trailer it's like this whole thing could be happening right now when a galaxy next to you. So they didn't even know that it's like it's whenever we're right. And in the trailer they didn't mention number of lungs. No, that was nothing direct reference. So strange. That's a first thing they do in every movie trailer. Like remember the trailer for the notebook? Yeah. They're like two people, both with two lungs. So strange. Yes, sure. That's the first thing they do in every movie trailer.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Like do you remember the trailer for the notebook? Yeah. They're like two people, both with two lungs. For in total. And then there's a lot of kissing. I love kissing because I can breathe with the two of my working lungs. Oh my god, me too. Breathe in deep.
Starting point is 00:28:44 The miracle of oxygen. Now to continue kissing. I haven't seen it. I have a spoiler. Sorry I did not mean to ruin the notebook. One of my favourite memories. That is the big finale as well. They discover they both have too much. Yeah. That's a mystery yeah I'm still searching for the person out there who has the same number of lungs as me good luck yeah what are the chances I believe he's out there yeah how many you got eight you got eight yeah I know I've got 17 so let's go say eight seems like a lot but 17 more it's all relative isn't it? It's all relative, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's step back into the perspective on the lungs.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's why I'm that so large. Oh, does it make room? Does it make room? Just stretched out. Yeah, there's lungs all the way down my arms. I can't, yeah. Full, my legs are full of lungs. It's so large.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It's so large. My brain's a lung. Your head does go in and out. Yeah, it's really, really, really. It takes a lot of getting used to what you've just had moved as he talks to you, but after a while you just kind of get used to it. It's excessive. Except him for him.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's about the robbing carbs. Yuck. Oh, well that was a catalyst. All right, just thanks. My very appearance is worthy of a yuck. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know, that's your least favorite word too. Sorry James.
Starting point is 00:30:13 No, that's what I was saying. This is all good stuff. So Ralph McQuarry was hired as a concept artist. George Lucas bought him on because he's like, I've got this idea in my head but I can't make it reality. If I go in and pitch this, people are gonna be like, we don't know, we don't understand any of this. And you drew these beautiful pictures,
Starting point is 00:30:29 which you can see online, which flesh out the world and the characters, they're really amazing. And does it look anything like we would think now? Or is it sort of? Yeah, there's definitely elements of it. Yeah, there's things in it that you couldn't do necessarily, but they're pretty bloody dead on. And so that worked in the budget for
Starting point is 00:30:46 $8 million was it was a period. It was a bit over $8 million For the casting Harrison Ford originally wasn't there to it wasn't gonna be in it George looks didn't want to use anyone who'd used before because it was in American graffiti Harrison Ford was like doing some carpentry work for him at the time and they just bought him into read lines opposite actors So now like no, you're the best one. We'll uh, I love that. Other people went up for it with Sebastian Stallone who's talked about openly. It is like in the audition, he was like, I'm sorry, I didn't get this did I? I'm gonna leave. He wishes he can't imagine. Hey man! Right to walk you win!
Starting point is 00:31:24 Kurt Russell and Nick Nolty. Pat Nolzwa does a Nick Nolty star wars joe kiffin. So you guys are comedians? We are, thank you. And we're going to recreate that joke right now. Thanks for putting us in the same categories Pat Nolzwa. Absolutely. Are you seeing me special?
Starting point is 00:31:39 No, not yet. I'm very good. I'm very good. I want to say. Where is it on? It's on Netflix, actually. It's on the body wild ride, but it's great. It's really good. He's gone through some stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Carrot, yeah, absolutely. Carrie Fisher was told to lose 10 pounds for the role. She said that she had to go to Fat Farm for that. So that was, she was 19 at the time. That's what she calls it. 10 pounds doesn't feel like a lot though. What's that in kilogram? I don't know, it's not much, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:32:03 David, you seem like you know that. Four. Four. That's not a lot. I don't know why you have to feel like a lot though. What's that in Kila Grande? I don't know, it's not much, I don't think. David, you seem like you know that. Four. Four. That's not a lot. I don't know why you have to go to a fat farm to lose four kilos. That's how it works. Just like skip a couple of meals and have a big poo.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Get rid of a lung. There's just three step plan. The third step is enjoy. LAUGHTER Just like exercise a bit. Yeah. A few salads, exercise, you'll be right. That's it. No carbs. Oh god, don't listen to me.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Sorry out there. What was it? It's a 4.5 kilo poo. There we go. So you're looking up. That's really not that much. I'd have to eat a lot to do that. So I don't know whether it'd be counterproductive.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Mark Campbell was also brought on board. He'd done like some sitcom stuff and whatever. He was kind of an up and coming dude. Fred's sort forward couple was like, don't use unknowns. And he was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I Campbell was also brought on board. He done some sitcom stuff and whatever. He was kind of an up and coming dude.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Fred Ford Coppola was like, don't use our knowns. And the studio was also like, don't use our knowns. He also had a backup cast because he was kind of casting for the group, not so much for the individuals. So he's like, these three work well together. So we had another three whose names I can't remember who worked on. So it was like, if any of these guys go,
Starting point is 00:33:04 we'll get these aren't in. And these are in there. That's interesting but I think that kind of makes sense to pass based on people working well together. I said to go to London and the desert it's a whole it was a whole thing is a whole production a movie production yeah that was a real movie production. He really did. The only kind of there was a couple of known actors what's his name the guy plays Taken? The bad guy
Starting point is 00:33:29 Taken the bad guy Taken's a bad guy. One of the bad guys. Yeah, I don't think he wears a hat And what about Obi-Wan? I know Obi-Wan and Alec Guinness from Bridge Over the River Because he thought it was a real joke, right? Well, he's kind of Depending on the interview sometimes he's like this is the worst thing I've ever done I hate being remembered for it and I don't want any residuals. Another time he's like, yeah, it was great, it went a good time. But you made a shitload of cash from me.
Starting point is 00:33:49 It made so much cash, yeah. So, he was easily the biggest cast member. Use the force, Luke. That's pretty good, yeah. I looked up, Taken, for you, so people don't get angry. He's a cushion. He's a cushion.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Thank you. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. He's the one that they brought back, and I'm really angry. He's pushing. Thank you. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff.
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Starting point is 00:34:31 Cheesy looks yeah, oh really you're only just realizing now people they know I look into it later mainly because of Who else they did print a slayer? Which was very I noticed that obviously because it's yeah, it's hurt Yes, yeah, that that look for me was less Fucked yeah, I felt like that was okay Was shorter and I didn't hate that as much but the yeah the cushioning cushion cushion The cushion man the cushion man. Yeah, here's what I'm like it looked like all of a sudden fell over in that story part of the Beginning of a video game You must defeat the evil wall and see the princess. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I mean, it's amazing obviously, but I don't. Yeah. I don't like it. It's the uncanny valley. uncanny valley, that's the thing. Yeah, that's why people love Artyu D2 because he's the opposite of that. Right. You guys have been with the uncanny valley?
Starting point is 00:35:16 No. Well, like, if they have a robe. If it looks too, yeah. If it's too realistic, it's too close and it's upsetting. But the further you get away from that, like, Artyu D2, a little garbage bin. It's fun because it doesn't have, but the further you get away from that, like R2D to a little garbage bin, it's fun, because it doesn't have a human face on it. So humans can tell when they see something
Starting point is 00:35:29 that's close but not quite right, it's like a warning signal's going off in your head. Yeah, that's amazing. I know that feeling. Where you're like, ah, and you can't quite point out what's wrong with it. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:41 that's weird, I don't know why. It's like looking at John Burgess. That's a local baby. Yeah, it's a bird who I met once and was lovely. It was a very nice old host of Wheel of Fortune and Burgess catchphrase. It's really a joy catchphrase. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I actually felt a little bit like that watching, sorry, watching Looper. You know, how Joseph Gordon-Levitt. It's got the nose. Yeah, he's got all the prosthetics that look like young Bruce Will. So I'm like, I know it's Joseph got live up, but it also looks a bit like Bruce Will.
Starting point is 00:36:10 He didn't need it. I don't think he's got any broken nose. Yeah. But it was amazing. And he even sort of copied mannerisms, which makes sense. But I was still like, I don't like it. Yeah, that director's doing the new Star Wars film this year. See, I pay attention to the things.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And what's good, good time, yes. Thank you. I like it. Yeah, that director's doing the new Star Wars film this year. See, I pay attention to the things. You do, you do. Good time, yes. Thank you. To protect these films, Lucas, it didn't want people to cut anything out of it or whatever. So instead of taking like a large chunk of money, he took a pay cut, and he made them right in a clause where any sequel's I get the rights to,
Starting point is 00:36:41 they belong to me exclusively, and any merch, the majority of it is mine. Wow. And they're like, we don't care. Because merch makes no money. This movie won't get a sequel, you're an idiot. Oh, that is so good. That's so good. They did like, plan into the apes lunchboxes
Starting point is 00:36:57 and there were some TV merch for Lost in Space and whatever. There was nothing like what Star Wars is up there. So he's a genius at least in the way he did business. Yeah, and the reason also he did, he went, well then I can print posters and t-shirts and I can get a bit of hype behind this because they're not going to promote this so I'm going to do it myself.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Wow, that's cool. Yeah, he was really going to head of the curve. Yeah. He backed himself. He backed himself. The head of the curve. Curb. So.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah. Yeah. Also, there were no special effects houses to do any of the stuff that you wanted to do. So in 1975, he founded the Visual Effects Company Industrial Light and Magic, which is known as ILM. It's still around today. They do everything.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Most things. It's them in wetter. They're like the two. Awesome. The two ones. And the guys from commercial and robotics and architecture, and they do things like the Pillsbury Doe Boy, which I don't know. I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know those ads. He's the is the Dove Boy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Advertises this company called Pillsbury You've been to the picture well. Yeah, that's very good. Does that ring any better? That does now. Yeah Eat some more Pillsbury That was George. Oh, sorry, yes. Obviously, that's implied. Yeah. So what he would say. So the people who he hired came from that kind of world.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And they built custom micro-processors, microprocessors. Microproberial. Microproberial. Because there were no computers to do these kind of special effects. For us to be like all the ships and stuff. It was a form of computers, wasn't it? It was, they were computers, but not to the extent of nothing like they needed. So rather than being like a tech genius himself,
Starting point is 00:38:30 he just brings people together. Oh, that's really cool. A lot of Star Wars is him getting the right people on board and luck. Like the right time, the right thing happened at the right time, the right level of technological advancement and all that. That's great.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. One of them was also Joe Johnston who came on board. He created Boba Fett, he directed Captain America, Jumanji, Honey Oshwant the Kids, Jurassic Park. You had been Honey Oshwant the Kids. Yeah, right. So, that was so small. So tiny.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He was. That was the thing about the movie. Honey. A lot of the main characters were really small for large part of it. Yes, correct. Did you see Honey I blew up the baby, the sequel? Yeah, that's your height baby. I was expecting a different movie. 10, 9, 8, 7, plunger. Science. This is all for science. Another one minute movie. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. So I had so much fun. hated the dialogue. Harrison Ford was famously quoted as saying, George, you can type this shit, but you can't, sure as hell can't say it. Because he was like, this is, because they're all like, go to the planet and get the giga thing and then you'll be, whatever. Like if you read any of the Star Wars dialogue with none of the context, it's a lot of it is nonsense. Yeah, right. Wow. So, so a lot of, you know, that stuff that people like about it, it's sort of like all real world stuff. Yeah. And it's believable. They're used to universe. Use university. And then so that, no, it's like all real world stuff and it's believable. They're used to universe. Used universe.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And so that just happened accidentally because of budget and... It was budget and he wanted a world where it didn't look like it was like it was the future but it had been the future for a long time. Right. That was the kind of thing. No one's really done that. So good. So it was kind of, it was on purpose.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It was on purpose. Because when he had the technology, it caught up, he changed things that piss a lot of people off. Because the idea was for the Freak Wars as well, that because everything was great in the universe, everything was shiny in the year. This is the beacon of hope and whatever. Right, so that's why it was all green screen. Yeah, it looks like shit.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah, the actors did a lot of goofing around on set and not taking it seriously. Clash with the crew, his independent filmmaking tactics were like, let's do it this way. And they were like, we're gonna film it traditionally as we do in England, shut up. Sorry, there was a lot of that. Chinchin. With cricket bats and tea.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And it's really good. I didn't mean to be rude, old chap, but do fuck off. They're so polite. Yeah, they really are. He, George Lucas also had the costumes, the sets, and just the production in general. He's like, this is not what I envision. Wow. So he nightmare. Yeah. And it put all those things people love.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah, in the end. Yeah. He did get lucky in a lot of ways. He did, he did. But Carrie Fish also had a breast gaffer tape down because in the white dress, when she ran, it was like, we can't have that. So they taped her down. That was a thing. I was just going to sports bra. I don't understand it, but that's how they do it in England. I know. Like gasp for taped her down. That was a thing. I was just going to sports bra. I don't understand it but that's how they do it in England. I know. Like gasp for tays and down. Like get everything down.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That bit, and that's fine but taking it off later. You'd have to put like a, like a, like a, like a nipple guard. Something under it. Yeah. Yeah. Like a tea towel. No, tea towel that makes sense. You just have to get new nipples and just just how it, how it works.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's tight, it's skin. Oh, every time. Every day. Fresh tape just have to get new nipples and just how it works over it. Type on skin every time. Every day. Fresh tape. Fresh tape, fresh nipples. I don't like this. Hey, we've got nipples too. I did not need to know that.
Starting point is 00:41:56 My nipples correlate with my lungs, I have eight nipples, eight loads. Oh, you're a good match for a match then. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Hello. Oh, yeah. George Lucas also. He's pretty, he's a nice guy, but he's very kind of shy
Starting point is 00:42:10 and anti-social. He didn't really talk that much. He lost his voice, and nobody noticed for like a couple of days. That's what Carrie just said. And in general, his directions were faster and more intense. That's what he'd say. Like, do it again, faster and more intense. Like, you just want it to be like, you didn you want it to be a slow moving kind of drag you know
Starting point is 00:42:28 like 2001 space Odyssey which is held up a sign that said faster and more intense. Yeah it was pretty slow. Yeah if you look at it now it is but for the time it was like breakneck. Especially when you come back to like 2001 space Odyssey which is just a lot of shots of nothing. It's a good film probably Okay, don't email it The filming was taking forever. There was a fit but because things like a fierce stand stand because they filmed in the desert Destroyed all the sets. I said I had to resume filming two days later the Fox board The universal something universal 20th century Fox were like this is horrible. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:43:04 And they send notes like why is the wiki not wearing pants? They're like, we again, we don't understand this. We don't understand. So it's constructive notes. I know, right? Why is the wiki pants? Yeah. But I like that sentence because they are acknowledging
Starting point is 00:43:19 that it's a wiki. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, I know enough to be like, well, that's the wiki obviously. But then like, they don't understand it and itsookie. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, I know enough to be like, well, that's the wookie obviously, but then like they don't understand it and it's culture. Yeah. Like, because he's got a balladier as well. No pants.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So what's the balladier is, well, that's ammo? It's ammo, I think. I don't know. Well, that makes sense. I'm sure there's a whole Wikipedia article on it. Wow, a wookie padi. Bookie padi, thank you. Very good.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Oh, Matt's Jewish. Look at his face. Man, that's a real that is a real thing The Star Wars wikipedia is called wikipedia. Oh Upsetting to say the least I was proud of you for making a good joke. Yeah, I was loving your pun work Which you're very famous for Stand up made it mainly puns. Yeah, mainly wookie puns. Wookie puns, yeah. You're a pun comedian. I checked.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Fuckin' fuck. Fuckin' fuck. My next festival show's got a pun name and I'm so full of regret about it. Is it really? Oh, can you hear it? Yeah, I haven't heard. It's going to be called, at least for that in Perth, it's going to be called, Dry Ginger Male.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Okay. I love it. Because. I called dry ginger male. Okay. I love it. Because, because your humour, rather dry, you have a ginger beard and you are a boy. And also, oh, male. Wow, I went AIL. I thought there might be some sort of correspondence part of the show. Is it M-A-L-E?
Starting point is 00:44:46 Try ginger mail. Right, okay, I'm back on board. Like AIL. Chosen the right mail. But with the M, yeah you have. Because otherwise it would have to be U-Dress as a postee. That's true, yeah. Can't have that, can we?
Starting point is 00:44:59 That sounds good. Anyway, so that's one of your regrets. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's a problem with homophones. Do you guys not love that? I think it's great. I love it. I know I like it a lot. I just also enjoy his regret. I did say a lot of regret.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I love it now. I know what the title is. It'll work. It'll work. It'll work. Written down. Yeah, sure. Yeah. No, I think everybody else got it. You're the only one who went AIL. Well, there's four people here, and only one of us didn't get it. Okay, I'm in the man room.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Do you understand now? Yeah. Okay, great. James, do go. I'll do it. Anyway, we went two weeks over schedule and Alan Lajunia, the guy had his back was like, we're shutting it down. No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You're one more week. Just get it done and George Lucas was like, I can do it. If you give me a couple more weeks, I'll do it for cheaper. And they're like, no, we'll just, is the is the money just finish it like we've had enough of this shit So they spit into split in the three units to get it done I was supposed to be released Christmas 1976, but was pushed back to summer of 1977 is Christmas a good That is a big movie release now it is kind of avatar kind of bad water rings kind of And that boxing day time yeah a lot of the rings, kind of messed up, or is it the water-resistant ball? And that boxing day type.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, a lot of the rings is always boxing day, and that was awesome. And the hobbit. That went good. I don't know. No, that's good, man. Yeah, because it feels like a weird time to release, although people are thinking about other stuff,
Starting point is 00:46:17 but the thing about this, unless it's the Santa Claus, sorry, Tim Allen, they get it. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. But the reason to sit, because there's nothing you've released around December, so that's why, so you it. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. But the reason, because there's nothing you've released around December.
Starting point is 00:46:26 So that's why. So you've got to clear on. Because all studios dump their shit films in January. So if you open late December, you've got to free. You're going to clear it. That's why Avatar made $2 billion, despite being very average. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Best dish. Yeah. So when Lucas was assembling the film, he didn't like the flow. He would come in and recut it himself. He fired the editor because he didn't like their cut. He started from scratch. He got some people in including his wife
Starting point is 00:46:53 to kind of fix it up a bit, who make it flow better. And they let the actors rhythm dictate the cuts instead of being like, OK, we'll cut here. What did it say? It was when, does that make sense? I don't know. So it's when they finish talking, I assume. I don't know what he means by that.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But it kind of follows the people more than the scenes, I guess, if that makes any sense. But his wife is kind of credited with kind of really saving the film, because the original added is not good. Really? Sister's are doing it for us. They're wife.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Oh. Yeah. They were sisters, they were brothers. They're wife. Oh. Yeah. They're worse sisters. They're both brothers. They were brothers. I got married and that's where you got the idea from. That's very good. Of course you're right.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Things that I allem the special effects place were not looking good. They'd spent half the budget, but only down four shots. Oh my gosh. And Lucas. And as they're eight shots? So there was way more than eight. Oh, so they had to throw them out because the Lucas
Starting point is 00:47:46 Was like we cannot use these so they spent a million dollars on four shots and they thought they weren't good enough How do I know eight million dollar budget? Yeah, you know dollars and they the two of them are on this so So because they work on a like all young the average age of them was like 24 and they were kind of like just having a bit of a fun time They're like yeah, we got money. We got time But and then so he kind of had to kind of go in and crack the whip and be like we need to kind of like just having a bit of a fun time. They're like, yeah, we got money, we got time, but and then so he kind of had to kind of go in and crack the whip and be like, we need to kind of get this done. Shit. The Fox, Fox board kept pressuring Alan Lab Jr. to get it finished. And he was like, listen, it's going to be fine. This is the greatest picture that's ever been made, even though he didn't think so and he hadn't seen it. So he definitely did not believe that. No,
Starting point is 00:48:19 he just went a nice shot up. He went, so go as big as you ever made. And now I'm, okay. Man, this guy's the best. I'm back on Alan lad. And he got super lucky. Boy, did it, yeah. But so Lucas then felt he felt shot, pains in his chest after visiting ILLM. And it was diagnosed with hypertension and exhaustion. He was told to take a break, which he did not.
Starting point is 00:48:42 There's no time for a break. No time for a break. And they had to do a year's worth of special effects shots in six months and to help with the pacing and rhythm George Lucas spliced together aerial dog fights from old World War 2 footage movies. And so if you look at those side by side like the space battles they're like dead on. So that's he's like I want it like this I want it to flow like this. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:01 That's why they work. Dog fights. So dogs in the war flow planes. Correct. You never talked about it before. In the. Yeah, well, I thought everyone just knew that Wow Xinner as I sang they had guns in World War two It's like early space ships sent up dogs into space was that early fighter planes or so sent dogs up I mean that does make sense. Yeah, that does, sorry. You can see the progression, can I? Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, so see it. It's a clear timeline, Matt. First I do dogs, then Russians, and then finally, buzz. Buzz Ultron. Second man on the moon. Is that right? Yeah, and the second non-dog band. On the moon. Obviously there were many dogs on the moon
Starting point is 00:49:47 hey there's lots of them he went up there to sort it out I'm not sorry it's fucking dog rock I'm just not pissing on the moon has a respect for the moon you blame moon dogs Moondogs. Just sort of that, what did he do? What did he do, just put Colors on it? We're going to put the spray bottle. Yes. Hey, wait, hit him on the nose of the rolled up newspaper. Couple of finds.
Starting point is 00:50:13 One of those cones, just put it on any cones. Just put Colors on it, that'll restore order. And then obviously, he shot them. Yes, yeah. All that, all the early stuff he probably didn't need to do. For the guy straight to the gun. Straight to the gun, what a seven lot of time. Could you shoot a gun on the moon?
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's a good question. Could I shoot a gun on the moon? No. Or I can act good. Could a gun be shot on the moon? What would happen? Who's the most science person here? Down here.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Or could we shot at a close range? So he was gone right up. It's like shooting underwater? Is that the kind of, do you think it would have been a similar? Could you shoot a gun on the water? You can't be shot at a close range? So he was gone right up. It's like shooting underwater Is that the kind of do you think would have a similar? Get you to gun underwater you can't be shot. It's like you know, people get shot in movies. Not real I think I think now they've got gun gun technology that can shoot underwater. Oh good excellent water proof guns excellent Wow, they've also have moon proof guns Yeah, do you shoot it and then the bullet just goes, whoop up in a space.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Whoop. Pupu. Whoop. You have the guns, the dogs are also probably up in the sky. It's fun. He's just like, they made it the air. Oh, no. It's a dog box in space. Can you hear it?
Starting point is 00:51:27 If you're that dog yes I'm mentioned that one's been bugging me for ages. Thanks Jess She's just cold. Yeah Ben was was in charge of all the sound effects. He did he did things like Used bears and lions and tigers and warruses for chew back Good So I used bears and lions and tigers and viruses for chew back. Stress, very good. No, that good. She just got jess in. That was incredible, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:49 That was so good. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Ah. Ah. Ah. Is that it? Yeah. Is there your cow now? Ah. Ah. Ah. He's on facelights up.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So he expressed a good job. Anyway, so these lines and bears. Yeah, they cut a stuff. Yeah, which was the idea was to use organic sound. So even though it was this sci-fi world, it sounded more natural than real. So Chewy isn't just an active voice actor. No, he said the line. If you see raw footage, you're saying the lines on set and then they
Starting point is 00:52:26 double it over. So the other actor is no what he's saying and went to react. Oh! Is it true that he got to choose between being Chewy and Darth Vader? That's the story, but it kind of varies from person to person. I know because David Prouse who was Darth Vader, I only wanted to be Darth Vader but I don't know like the order of thinking. And is it true that he thought that he was doing the line?
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yes, he watched it back. Yes, so actually I I thought it was better. I thought it was brutal. Watching it back and then going, hang on, that's not my voice. I'm just down my man in a black suit. Yeah. No one knows I'm in there.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It was a bodybuilder. He trained Chris Reeves for Superman. He was Darth Vader as well, obviously. And so he recorded it all on set, and they called him Darth Vader, because he was just this English guy doing all the lines. And like we can't do this so they got James L. Jones No, I am your father. Yeah, we got to dub that we definitely have to do it. Was James L. Jones big at the time?
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah, it was, yeah, it was known but they, I think they wanted awesome wells initially who was very famous but they went and we'll go for a voice so people don't recognize. Yeah, God, that makes sense. It's great voice. Great voice Yeah, he had a starter as well as a kid This is a simba I am just this please
Starting point is 00:53:36 That's something he said that sounds right. Yeah, hello I am Darth Vader. I am displeased. I am displeased. Mmm. That's it. I'm choking you with a fock. I'm choking you.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Errr. You're a prejudice like it because your voice is probably the only other voice on the planet that's in a similar register. Two james, I'll tell you that's probably true. Me and James. It's like, by way of Dutch. Yeah, these are the Swedish shit. Ferdinand. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I'm feeling delirious. It sounds like Welsh beta. This is all good stuff. Yeah, like you said, he found it in the screening. No one told him. It sounds like Welsh Vader. This is all good stuff. But yeah, like you said, he found out in the screening. No one told him. There's a long history of David Proud being screwed out of Star Wars royalties. Oh no! But he comes back time and time again.
Starting point is 00:54:36 No. Oh no! How many did he come back for the original three? He did the original three and then he apparently leaked some... They think he leaked some they think he leaks information yeah like some nodes he thought he was gonna come back and because Darth Vader's in the last prequel and he was like well they're gonna bring me back for that but they didn't bring him back for that
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oh I don't think he doesn't always pretty old. That's got another tall person. Yeah they got the guy who played him in the air. So is that him when he looks like an egg is that him? No that's also not here. Oh what? It's an actor called Sebastian Stan. When he looks like an egg. that him no that's also not here oh what's an actor called Sebastian Stan when he looks like an egg yeah when I was a kid I thought that was an alien I thought it
Starting point is 00:55:12 was a blue alien man yeah but it's it's just an it became an egg yeah is that like a fan to people think of him it was known kind of yes oh yeah, yeah, but he really look like an egg looks so much like an egg You haven't seen him just no I can't get the face. Oh no, I got it. It's empty. Yeah, I can't remember that. Yeah, it's very upset. I am a Displeased but full of protein Like you from the Caribbean I've got protein mark That's slipping I am displeased. Nope, still. I am
Starting point is 00:55:51 displeased, man. That's what my mom was going. Yeah, good stuff. Yeah, good stuff. Oh, isn't it? Duffer did a lot of that. Hmm, let me think. Yeah. Hmm, I'm sure. Yeah. I am strangling you from afar. I will make the sound effect. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Hmm. Yeah, it's a joke now. Hmm. Hmm. Good joke, you got you. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
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Starting point is 00:57:01 Take classes online or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. James, please do go on with your report. There was a private screening for Lucas' friends, including Brian DeParma and Steven Spielberg. Most of the special effects weren't there. There was no music, and everyone said,
Starting point is 00:57:21 this is no good, except for Steven Spielberg. Obviously, it would look shit out for that music. That's a special effect. It's my favorite part. Yeah. Yeah. But Spielberg was like, this is great and this is going to be great. Wow. So he kind of called it. So he brought in on John Williams for the score, who did it with the London Symphony Orchestra. That's why it sounds so good. Exactly. They went with a traditional symphonic score because they wanted to win vocal like classic films
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think you're instead of doing like a disco kind of thing Like Put it into hybrid drive That I know I think it would have been a different movie if they got John Williams Boo! A buggy wonderland! So I don't know how to do that Dave. I don't know if I'm just going to say that. I think so, yeah. Very good. Well, it's quite...
Starting point is 00:58:28 How did you do that, Dave? I don't know if I'm just that good. That laughed so hard at that that it indicates to me that you are not that good. No. He really enjoyed that. That laugh said you are the best. How did you do it? Oh, dude. The laugh said, he is so self-aware. He really enjoyed that. But Laf said you are the best. I need to do it. Oh dear.
Starting point is 00:58:45 The Laf said, he is so self aware. What do we got here? It just inside has said it was doomed, but there was a small fan base kind of brewing from all the kind of, the promotion material and the stuff that Lucas has been putting out. A comic book deal was secured with Marvel the very last minute, which also ended up saving Marvel because they were very good. And the Tottenhamautnic mason might have brought that up in his Marvel episode We should have if he's any good, but Look he said some things I don't remember a lot of it
Starting point is 00:59:13 He's like that. So it's saved them at the time or decades later. No, it seemed like in the Fox on the 80s Because yeah, their sales were plummeting but they did all the Marvel He did mention that they in the in episode of People In Here, they told us all about Marvel, but he did tell us about a bunch of times that they were so close to failing. Yes. Yeah, that they were selling filing cabinets. Yeah, that's the pay the bill.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That's right. Yeah, I do remember that. Yeah. That's a multiple time. I remember facts about filing cabinets. That's right. I mean, you stay in my brief forever. And a good thing too.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I had opened on May 25th to only 42 theaters. The other Fox Big release at the time was the other side of Midnight, which was a much anticipated film based on a book. And this company said, if you want this film, you need to also show Star Wars. Otherwise, you don't get either. Ah! George Lucas went on holiday because he's like,
Starting point is 01:00:00 this was the worst thing that I've ever done, and I hate myself. So it didn't think anything would kind of happen, but it expanded from 42 theaters to 1750 Wow, that's quite an expansion is yeah, and it's like because it was going well the 42 Yes, yeah, that was because that could and it played over a year for over a year lines were around the block There was sold out shows it was there was Star Wars mania and it ended up making $775 million The biggest full-time all- by a long shot. That's incredible So it was
Starting point is 01:00:31 Insane uh, Kenna just can't I was just I reckon I've heard maybe still talk about on still was how he He saw the characters and stuff before the movies came no wouldn't have any of these maybe yeah But he like saw character maybe as he saw the e-walks or something at a time so they would use like comics and walks to like hype it up and that's how they've kind of stayed alive this whole time because I wasn't Star Wars movies for 20 years but all the kids you're up on the toys and whatnot so that's kind of how it's kind of stayed in the public it's very smart he's a bloody genius but a lot of people hated how EDD walks, right? Yes, that was it.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, that was because they're like, it's too cute for any of whatever. It's all kid stuff except for the... It looks so awesome. Yeah, I think it's people who aged a little bit. They were young for the first one and by the time the third one came out, they're like, oh, this is so cute.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It was uncool. But they're like, forgetting, people often forget that they've just gotten older. Yeah, people always forget that it's like, now this is a meant for you anymore. Yeah, if you watch anything from your childhood, it's all terrible. As well, every show is the worst show. Except for Captain Planet.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Captain Planet! It has a good idea, bro! Gonna take pollution down to zero. But he didn't. He never did. He never did. We've still got it. Yeah, good one Kevin play fucking it That reframe everything in your mind about your hero Well, special hero captain Mike still the best man to rock a green ball at on my TV. Oh well played
Starting point is 01:01:59 Well played no, thank you, and I won't Count and won't can't wait wouldn't there. No, I can't I that. Thank you. And I won't. Count and won't. Can't wait. Wouldn't there? No. I can't. I couldn't reach couldn't That would do the toys and they were swamped. They couldn't there was none like they'd sighted They'd only kind of made a few so even for the Christmas of that year. They'd made one of each character This would be this is already too much There were no there were no toys for Christmas of that year So instead they sold empty boxes with the Star Wars figures printed on them and said Did you this will be ready in March so they were selling
Starting point is 01:02:28 Under the tree you unwrap it and then you can like a token take it in and get a toy later. Yeah I feel like a boring those that's amazing It went it worked people people did it that's amazing throwing boxes around the backyard making Santa It was amazing. Throwing boxes around the backyard making Santa Fixx. Yeah. Woo! Do you guys remember when the Ninja Turtles came out? Like you couldn't get one to save your city?
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yeah, I do. You guys might have been too young. You probably could. Thank you. I was quite an old man when the Ninja Turtles came out. Yeah, Matt's a great, great grandchild. One or one for Christmas. Do you remember that, Matt?
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yes. Good memory, because you're very old. Very old, but but great real young memory May so has suggested he might do an injured turtles episode one time. Yeah, you could do that Yeah, I did like the injured turtles Cool story just really good. Yeah, thank you controversial opinion My brother and I had my brother had these like plastic mugs that originally did, they were all the colors of the Ninja Turtles, and they all had a sticker on them and was like, don't tell that, Raphael.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But then the stickers came off and now they're just colorful plastic mugs. Scream mugs. The mom still has it in her hair. I love it. So that's our Milo mugs. You can't have Milo in anything else. Both of us will still only use Milo mugs.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I see Milo mugs. These days at midnight, you have to drive to your parents house. I don't have Marlow in my house. Yeah, I'm the same, I can't. I can't, yeah, it would, it just wouldn't last. No. You guys don't have Marlow in your house? No, I can't trust myself with a tin of Marlow.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I can't have anything. Wow, I've got like a kilo tin. I've been in Marlow for a long while. A kilo tin, like three years. It would last me two weeks. You love it. I love it. I haven't had it in years because it's it would ruin my life It's not that bad, but you can have a bit I wouldn't have I wouldn't have a bit
Starting point is 01:04:11 I'd fill the mug with my lower and then like a thin layer of Yeah, it was a spoon and you're I'm just like chip away to it and the bits of float up the talk So good. Yeah, and then eventually there'll be a threshold will be passed And I'll stir the rest in yeah and it's just a beautiful multi brew well I can see your eyes are like you've got to go I haven't I haven't thought about my little while you've never looked more alive that was incredible oh man I love my life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys want a sad Carrie Fisher story? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yes I do. At a party, Carrie, the time Carrie Fisher was 19. The crew convinced her to get drunk. This was from the book, The Princess Dyrist, which was released relatively recently. I did for her death. So the crew got, she was like, I don't really drink, but she kind of got encouraged and she did.
Starting point is 01:05:08 The crew would kind of look like they were gonna take advantage of her or kind of take us somewhere else and Harrison Ford steps in and is like part and me and he tells the crew member that Carrie Fisher needs to get a little bit of air and she doesn't seem to be aware of what she wants and an argument breaks out and so he takes her outside and puts her in his car and then he starts making out with her.
Starting point is 01:05:28 She was 19, he was 33 with two kids married. How is it for God damn it you're doing so well for a sec there. I thought he was going to come out really well there. For sickle's like thank goodness he saved the day. It's got to take it to finally. They had an affair during the making of Star Wars and she pined after him. She wrote poetry This is from her book. Do you want me to read it? I don't have to I don't know I can skip it. I know she published this in a
Starting point is 01:05:54 She published it. Yeah, I just want to hear what 19-year-old poetry sounds like okay, okay, oh Okay, sorry It's about to start a few verses. You got them committed to mempuring up. From your diary. The compromise I made was not an easy thing to do. It's either you or me and I choose you. Although far from a Joker, you spoke in a rye, rye, rye, riddles.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I could have given you so much, but you wanted so little. I thought you might supply some tenderness, I lacked. But out of all things I offered, you took my breath away, and now I want it back. Oh! Yeah. She wrote this song. She only had one lung. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It was rare. What a schmuck. What a schmuck. She wrote this about him in the book. He was a Harrison Ford, was a decent, albeit complicated and frequently silent guy. He was always decent to me, as far as I know, he only cheated on me with a-
Starting point is 01:06:46 With his wife. Yeah, with, I'll be three wives, you think that's the only time he cheated potentially. And maybe I didn't, he didn't think that I counted because I was so short. And while there's still time for Karerson to grow old together, that's Karry, you know, that gateway is steadily closing.
Starting point is 01:07:01 If we're gonna get back together, we're gonna have to do it soon. So she's still kind of held the blood of her daughter. Oh shit! That was right that was last couple of years. Yeah yeah and she was like I feel bad about everything so you know if you hate me like I already hate myself so. Oh shit! That periodically she said so this it's real sad I don't know sorry for bringing up.
Starting point is 01:07:19 No I've been- A lot of people kind of don't I thought that's a new thing that I just found out so. You know my weird thing it's weirdly sweet kind of not yet and that's a new thing that I just found out. So, you know, am I weird for thing? It's weirdly sweet. Kind of, not yet. No, it's not, sorry. Not never mind. Which bit, the poetry. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:32 The poetry, well that was sweet wasn't it? Just the pining for someone. And still holding the candle. Yeah. And that's how you get him. That's how you get him. Yeah, it's pretty. Just like Ryan from the OC.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Correct. Who was the original Hollywood bad boy? Do you know that, Jess? Matt always brings it back to the OC. It's a, I'd say that the OC or Mr. Sheffield from the Nanny. They're my two. You two go to. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I've got two other Star Wars films here, but how far were you in, like, I could stop? Like, we don't have to. No, we're king. OK. This is, this is the epic that the people want. I, look, I'm easy. I'll do it. It's, it's, it we don't have to. No, we're king. Okay. This is the epic that the people want. Look, I'm easy, I'll do it. It's best shorter, they're not all like.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So I'm loving it, this is racing by. I can't do it. I don't know whether that's, I'll push on. Next film is Empire Strikes Back, which he made independently because he owned the rights. And he had enough money to do that now. Yes, he put up $25 million of his own money and there's 20th century Fox distributed, but he made it. That's the only work that's filmed.
Starting point is 01:08:31 That's the only work that's filmed. That's cool. But he didn't direct. He said. No, so the idea was he didn't want to direct because it nearly killed in the first time, and he was setting up his company and all that. So he asked his former film teacher, Irvin Kirschner, who he initially said no, because he's like this
Starting point is 01:08:45 could sequence a rarely better or good. But the idea was he said, okay, we'll make it bigger, more complex, and it has to also work so we can then make more movies, and Kirschner also want more humor, more heart, and more of a love story. So that was the idea. So not a rehash. If you've seen it, it's like a, I think it's a better film. It's a, yeah. I would have thought that that's almost consensus that it goes to, I'm sorry, four then, four, wait, five then four then six.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Six, yeah. That's the general consensus, yeah. Generally, yeah. It was worth, and it was well worth me slowly figuring that out. I think so, yeah. This film, this film was also a nightmare, but for different reasons, it was filmed in a Scandinavian winter, which was the coldest one in 50 years. It was 20 below and there was 18 feet of snow. One point, they couldn't get outside to film, so they just filmed Mark Hamill from the hotel door
Starting point is 01:09:38 and he just ran around in the snow for a bit, because I was like, yeah, this little boat. They couldn't get the camera outside, but they got him out. They were like, yeah, I want you. Well, so they couldn't get the camera outside, but they got him out. But they're like, yeah, oh, why are you out there? Run about for a bit. They also cast Billy D Williams' lando, because Lucas copped a bit of flack
Starting point is 01:09:53 because there were no black people in the original Star Wars, or if there are, they have background characters. So they think that was the idea behind that, even though he actually auditioned for Han Solo, actually originally. Frank Oz created Yoda, the puppet, which you may have talked about in your Muppet episode. Yeah, he did. He was based off Stuart Freiborne, who created him and with some Einstein wrinkles, so he's kind of that kind of combination. That's very good. There's some great impressions today. Very good impressions.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Wasn't that actually a walrus? That sounds a walrus, yeah. You know this one was a waste fire, a walrus, yeah. A walrus. A walrus. Yes, a special type of walrus. A walrus. A walrus.
Starting point is 01:10:36 They were behind on making this puppet because they were like, it needs to work because it doesn't work. You won't believe any of the film. So, and Franco's actually dropped the head before shooting and broke it when they were already behind. And speaking of broken, Mark Hamill smashed up his face in a car crash between movies.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And so that's why they get him get injured at the start. So the monster scratches his face. They're like, he looks slightly different because a monster attacked him. So in the ice cave? In the ice cave, that's correct. Yeah, that big, that's a cool monster. It's a wampa.
Starting point is 01:11:04 A wampa, that's a sick name. That's a wampa. A wampa, that's a sick name. That's a great name. And that's also why I'm on a matter of pay, maybe. Potentially. Wamp, wamp, wamp, wamp. Wamp. Everybody wants. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So Mark Amel found the performance difficult, because a lot of the movie is him acting opposite puppet, which he couldn't hear hear because the puppeteer was eight feet below with his hand up and I know But that's why the kind of that works We can't hear anything. No, you had like a radio receiver But it would only sometimes work and he turned his head they'd pick up Transmissions If you watch it back as he just constantly turning his head slightly. Yeah, yeah Harrison Ford had the idea to change the iconic line
Starting point is 01:11:52 When he's about to get lowered into carbonite and frozen from I love you He was supposed to say I love you too, but he says I know to carry Fisher Which seems very kind of reflective of their relationship. Yeah, wow. Yeah, George. I know Bye George Lucas hated it, but it ended up being reflective of their relationship. Yeah, wow. I know. Yeah. Bye. George Lucas hated it, but it ended up being very well regarded. The Darth Vader twist, where it was the famous line, no arm, your father, or whatever. You guys know the twist, right?
Starting point is 01:12:16 We've talked about it already in this episode. What? Yes. Nobody knew except Lucas, the director, and Hamel, who was told on the day, the original line that they spoke on set was, oh cool, because they did it in post, the deep voice. Oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:32 So that English guy was like, hello, I am some guy. I'm your daddy. He's like, ooh. Oh yeah, we'll let it that out. Yeah. Because at this point, he knows that he's not gonna be voicing that. He doesn't know, yeah, he already knows.
Starting point is 01:12:48 But you're saying all kinds of stuff? Yeah, so every line is fucking. Fuck you, George. His line was Obi-Wan killed your father. And so they pulled up Mark Hamlet for an hour like, this is the real line, so act like this. But he's gonna say a different thing. And again, is this reaction?
Starting point is 01:13:02 Is it just no? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And David Prouds found out on the day that he saw it again. So he didn't press. It's like, they didn't tell it. Fuck. Yeah. Because he'd been accused of leaking information before and it's a whole thing. Yeah. Because it was an independently made film of still a tight shoot. George Lucas ended up putting in $33 million, which he got back. It wasn't a massive critical hit Like it was probably slightly less regarded than the first one because people like this is dark and weird and
Starting point is 01:13:29 Some fun anymore and but even though the the director wanted to make a more yeah, so over time people are like, oh no This is good bit at the time not like most people liked it, but it wasn't all I was gonna see what's a what's a metaphor for something good smash hit smash it I'm trying to rainbows. Thank you. It wasn't all Jess Perkins. It wasn't all buddy Jess Perkins. Sorry the metaphor was up and good Okay, it works well Wasn't all Jess Perkins over there's a little bit of much to it. Oh Little bit shit. I want one for that. I could only make from a Falcon bro a little bit Ryan at wood from the ocean Original bad boy the whole he would bad boy
Starting point is 01:14:12 Niles the butler Little bit niles what cheeky and cheeky fucking shit up behind the scenes Well if you call shit up misses Babcock Well, if you call shit up Mrs. Babcock. Oh, she see. Made it up together at the end. Yeah, but they weren't making her own. At least in behind the scenes, Dave, you're talking about the actual storyline.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Sorry. That's just like behind the scenes. It's no behind the scenes. The actor wasn't like, you know, doing some dodgy. He wasn't leaking like a weird douse. Like, douse. Prouse. Prouse.
Starting point is 01:14:41 On the prowess. Prouse, yeah. Lucas, again, with this film, he wanted to put the credits at the end of the film, so to preserve the storyline. So it just kind of opens with a bang, if you've seen a star, or is it gets straight into it. He did it in the first film when nobody cared because nobody was paying attention, but when he did it for Empire Strikes Back, the directors and writers guild find him a quarter
Starting point is 01:15:00 of a million dollars and try to get it pulled from cinemas. They're like, you can't do that, you've got to put the credits at the start. And it was like, fuck you. So all other films at the time were doing that. Yes, he did. I hate the credits at the start. I know, it's the worst. When you watch old movies now, you're like, fuck, yes.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Especially when it's just on a pink background, it's just so slow, it's one-name at a time. And unless it's cool like James Bond, then it's got a thing. Official and a song that's cool like James Bond, then it's got like a yeah, it's got a visual and a song that's cool That's great. You got ladies swimming and then they get shot and then they're naked and then James is there too And he's naked you were there James. I was there most of them A different James
Starting point is 01:15:44 Oh, sorry. A foolish mistake. So Lucas just paid the fines. He was like, I don't care. And because he hated all the big business and the Hollywood politics anyway, even though he was becoming one. So he dropped out of the Motion Picture Association
Starting point is 01:15:59 and the writers guild and the directors guild. And around this time, also, Alan LaDunia quit 20th Century Fox, who had greenlit Star Wars because he was like, I thought enough you should also. So he was kind of forced out, kind of left, and, uh, which was a shame. Yeah. And that's why Lucas then went to Paramount with Indiana Jones, which was a story he was developing at the time.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Right. With Gilbert. Last movie, Return of the Jedi. It was originally called Return of the Jedi, and then they said the title was shit. So he changed it to Revenge of the Jedi. Because he quit the director's guild, he couldn't hire Stephen Spielberg, who he wanted to, that was the original idea. He wanted to spill the book. He wanted to spill the book.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah, yeah. What do I mean, cool. David Lynch also came in to kind of have a look, see? But he looked at the Ewoks and he got a migraine and he laughed. That's pretty good. Hey, as a migraine sufferer, I can confirm that we will have different triggers. And for some people looking at Ewoks, it's a common one. Yeah, it's like caffeine, sulfates, Ewoks.
Starting point is 01:16:56 They're the big three. Top three. Dairy is fourth. Yeah. Yeah, so, no, I get it. The license. Yeah. A little known director, Richardwanda was brought on board, but he was mostly, they say he's kind of director in name only because Lucas kind of did a lot of overseeing.
Starting point is 01:17:13 So it's really Lucas's film, so you weren't wrong when you said one and three. Yeah, I did vaguely hear that. No, you didn't. I vaguely heard that. No, you're saying that now in hindsight. Because they got, so this guy obviously wasn't in the guild either. So I had to go a guild free. I think he was because he was a foreign director.
Starting point is 01:17:29 He was from another country. Has he done anything of note before us? I looked through it and I'd recognize a couple of things, but nothing of note. And he died in like 87. So he didn't, the Star Wars curse. He was the only one affected. Is there a card?
Starting point is 01:17:41 It's about to get my list ready. Very short-lived person. That takes a few years. Wow. We'll get you if you're him specifically. We need to sacrifice one of the directors. Well, get rid of the guy that did just here. Actually, it's too dead now.
Starting point is 01:17:55 The other guy, I, Urban Kirshen is dead as well. He was old at the time. But he was very old. He was old, he was, yeah, yeah. He was probably like 50. Lucas is dead. Yes. Film director.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Yeah. Harrison Ford had not yet signed on to the film. He was doing one at a time. Everybody else signed on to three at the start, but he was like, no, I'm a big star. I'll be a big star. So no. So they weren't sure he was going to come back. And when they eventually, that's why he was frozen in carbon
Starting point is 01:18:16 at the end of two. Oh. And five. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I don't. But yes, the last one, the previous one. So when he did come back, he wanted Harrison and Solo
Starting point is 01:18:27 to be killed in a sacrifice. So he was like, we'll get some, we'll get some, add some weight to this film. And a lot of people behind the film, some of the ride as well, like, yeah, we should do that. Let's not just do all Ewoks and fun. Let's kill somebody important. Wow.
Starting point is 01:18:40 If they didn't end up doing it. But then they did end up doing it 30 years later, if you've seen the new Star Wars. And if you haven't, spoiler alert. Spoiler know. But one of the Hawks gets it wicked cops it in the eye. It does. Oh. Yeah. No, I'm sure it's a buddy. A stick. No, a stick. Yeah. Sharp and stick. Sharp and stick. Yeah. Which in the A-Walk world is a knife? That's correct. That's what they call them. You know when like something bad happens. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Or you're in a bit of pain or something. My dad would always say better than a poke in the mouth burnt stick. Yeah That was an Ewok an old afewok. You should be advantage Adage my mom would say better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick Different strokes. I would rather a burnt stick than a sharp stick. Just saying. Is that an apple and a yeast thing? Yeah, that's right. There are a lot of sticks at there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Up for the A-star. If the gardener hasn't dealt with him yet. And if he hasn't, he will be fired. With a poke in the eye to stick. Yeah, there's a... The A-star got a lot of their, bylaws from the Ewoks. I could not remember what Ewoks were called. Eastwoks.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Eastwoks, that's yeah, it was initially Eastwoks. Yeah, that makes sense, yeah. Shoredon. Shoredon. Ewoks in case that wasn't clear. Same as what we were saying. Nailed it. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:06 It was filmed under the title Blue Harvest, horror beyond imagination, because people saw Star Wars and they went, oh, that's like for a wedding. It's like, well, that will charge you triple because your Star Wars. Like, it made money, but he wasn't like crazy rich like he is now.
Starting point is 01:20:21 So who, who were they telling that was what the film was? Just like, so there'd be like, we need to film in this forest, so there's a permit we're doing a movie called Blue House. Right, but then when Luke Skywalker turns up, people are like, what? Yeah, so I guess they paid by then, so they're like, Scotchard! That's so smart. Yeah, they can't say no, but oh no, it's more now.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Yeah. Hi, can I use your winery for a birthday party? And then we're getting a fancy dress birthday party. Star Wars theme. Very formal. One's coming as a bride. The other as Luke Skywalker. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. Probably would probably would wouldn't he? Yeah, who on? No, he's hate she. Would you guys do a themed wedding? No. I mean, just respect it.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I love it. You could simplify that question. What'd you do with it? Similar answer, possibly. I don't know, who cares? Ah, that's Mr. James. You got Mr. James. That's right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:21 And then Mr. James that age. You know it. Or do I, I don't know, what do I care? You did that. You didn't do what a theme's winning. No, I do a regular winning. I don't think there's anything I'm passionate enough about to theme already.
Starting point is 01:21:34 No, I'm saying about like that with tattoos. I know, who's getting the tattoo? You getting the tattoo? I'm getting it. Is that a picking or are you choosing? No, I got to choose it if I was winning. If they voted for me out, they would have got to pick it. But they chose Jess. Really? Yeah. I got to choose if I was reading. If they voted for me out, they would have got to pick it. But they chose Jess.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Really? Yeah, we got a little sweet list on the bus. You were really nice. And everyone was like, well, Jess wants the tattoo. So I don't think I heard this. What's the tattoo? I'd announced it yet. Yeah, I think we talked about it in the tattoo episode a while ago.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I was just going to be small in some of my wrist. I just see this little symbol. A little dead head. Yeah, it's Dave's head. A symbol of Dave's head. I'm going to get a little Dave on me. And I'm fine with it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah. And I get DW and then you know, love heart. Oh my wrist. I'll be lovely. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. But the symbol basically looks like a rewind button. Oh, it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:22:17 It's good. Is it like, is it all the regrets you have? Is it like that? Yeah, I want to just take it all back. Get it out of here. I'm gonna be doing that soon actually, yeah. Getting it out here. Get it out of here. I'm gonna be doing that soon actually. Yeah Getting it out here live streamed hopefully Facebook line something it's gonna be something There's no point in me getting it and then just like putting up a picture of it later. It's got to be filmed or streamed or something
Starting point is 01:22:37 Anyway, I agree. It's all about content. It certainly is we're're very content focused here. Do you go on media? One of the big challenges was Jabba the Hut, which was a puppeteer with like 15 people and it wasn't that many. There was like one on HR and there was one in the head, there was radio controlled eyes. There was a little person in the tail with a stick who got stepped on my carry fisher. So how many people have any puppete? Five, eight, I don't know. That man is Jabba the Hot has ten lungs in him. Ten to sixteen lungs. Errr. That's very good.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That's very good. So, my quest continues. Errr. He looks a bit like a lung on bad. He does, doesn't he? Yeah, he should be on a cigarette packet. And just this morning I was watching a clip of our good friend Ben Russell, who does in his stand-up, he does a bit of Michael Cain playing Jabba the Hut.
Starting point is 01:23:29 It's so funny. Is that on YouTube? Yeah, I watched it just this morning in bed. Oh, I watched it first of all. I laughed at it. It's so great. He also has a very successful, maybe the most successful Gembe podcast out there. It's all about Gembe.
Starting point is 01:23:44 What is that? I was on the first episode. Maybe the most successful Gembay podcast out there. It's all about Gembay. What is that? I was on the first episode. It's a kind of drum, like a bongo. It's all about life, living life in the Gembay. Way. Gembay, way. The Gembay way.
Starting point is 01:23:58 You went the Gembay way. I'll cheer you in. Yeah, you should. Should we get him on planet broadcasting? Yeah, I'm good. No, I'm just kidding. No. People have said that the eWs were a metaphor for the Vietnam War. Like a big army comes in and there's like trying to stomp some out,
Starting point is 01:24:13 but then the locals kind of rally together and defeat them or whatever. You get it right, metaphors. But George Lucas has always been kind of like, no, it's not political, it's just, you know, he says that about his film, just tiny band. But there are like direct parallels, like in a later film, there's like that line that George Lucas George Bush says about like, if you're not with me or my enemy, so he does do it, but he's not openly political.
Starting point is 01:24:36 More so in his older age, but yeah. Also week before it was released, it was changed back to return to the Jedi from revenge, because revenge is not a Jedi concept they said But returning is returning is they will always come back They are very good at bringing back their DVDs that they borrowed for a rupus They will always return put them in the return Box out the front. They do do that. They will not revenge the DVDs They never invented DVDs and that's what I like about them. Yeah, they're good people. The opening day, it took 6.2 million,
Starting point is 01:25:08 which was the biggest opening day ever. That's crazy. Just to wrap it up over, okay, good. Are you gonna wrap it? The third one. Absolutely, yeah. The third one, how was that critically? Not as well, but it did really,
Starting point is 01:25:20 like people still like it. So critically, they dropped down at the time. I would say so, yeah. The third one's kind of dips in the middle if you've seen there you walk stuff is so it's a bit of a drag yeah it's a solid it's a whole different mini-movie inside of it yeah that's it and they did actually do to Ewok spin-off movies caravan of courage correct and the other one there's two I saw Caravan of courage yeah ex-girlfriend who loved loved all the Ewoks especially wickeds, especially Wicked.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Yeah, right, yeah. But we watched it, and at one point, one of the A-Walks was talking, and it's teeth sort of just came up, like it was clear, you're flat in the movie, like the movie that went out, I was just sort of like, you could just see the costume sort of flap up. That's very absurd. They didn't really shoot it. No. They're pretty low budget. But yeah, there's some upsetting stuff in nice fit.
Starting point is 01:26:09 It was upsetting. Yeah. Does that ever, anything to do with George Lucas? Yeah, yeah, he made those. Well, he was heavily involved. Yeah. And he also made the Christmas special. Oh, he made his star was, I was gonna get into that.
Starting point is 01:26:19 That's a whole thing. There's a star was Christmas special, which was released in between the first two, when it is. And what is it? A hilarious disaster? I like Mark Hamilton something. Yep, and he just had his accident So he's got like a layer of orange make up on him Harrison Ford looks like he wants to kill himself Carrie Fisher's Always looks like he wants to kill himself. These more spoken about and like it's everywhere if you say cool episode something
Starting point is 01:26:40 No, it's called the Star Wars holiday special. It's about going to Hans Soller has to get to a home for life day which is the Star Wars equivalent of Christmas. You know what I say it's pretty hard to sell it at Christmas and Jesus hasn't been born yet. Yes, there's a lot of like there's a cooking segment with a with an effeminate robot. I'll say three beer. No with a guy dressed as a woman robot. I love that. It's very boring and difficult to watch. Wow, I've never seen that. You should come back into an episode on that. I'd love to.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Sure. I'll just watch it. I'm reading between the lines there. You would not like to do that. You might be right. I'll happily talk about all the weird, star spin off stuff. Because that's also one of the reasons George Lucas was like
Starting point is 01:27:25 I want full control my given this out to anybody because you fucked it basically. Oh that wasn't his choice. No, he gave it to him And they kind of Did it yeah, not good. I thought that he played a key role in it. No, he was too busy being his own man. Right. Yeah, you gotta do you Yeah, you know do you George?. You know. Do you judge? That's right. Speaking of though, he had plans to make 7, 8, 9 and the prequels and spin off movies, which were just about walkies or droids.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And there's been variations on him saying that. Like originally he was, he, Mark Hamill's, there's an interview from him at the time saying, yeah, George Lucas asked me to come back and be Luke Skywalker when I'm like 65. But I'm like, yeah, if you want, I guess. But Mark Hamill's like 24 is like, this isn't even going to work. when I'm like 65 but I'm like yeah if you want I guess but my camel's like 24 is like this isn't even gonna work so I'm not sure yes which he ended up doing. I don't even plan on being alive man George.
Starting point is 01:28:13 They were so young. They were yeah. Yeah that was crazy but also at around the time of returning the Jedi he went through a divorce which really which really hurt him and he also ended up adopted a little girl at the same time. So he just stepped away from filmmaking, he's like, I'm just gonna be a dad. So he just stopped, he like wrapped it all up. So return the Jedi's, we're supposed to go on, Luke was supposed to have a different sister,
Starting point is 01:28:34 it was supposed to be like a whole other thing, but he went, no, this is it, I'm out. Yeah, okay. So he just wanted to be a good dad and even make a film for 20 years, but he did a lot of background stuff and producing. He did it in Anna Jones, Willow, you guys went with Willow. Yeah, that's a good movie. He did Howard the Duck, which is a Marvel film. He did the
Starting point is 01:28:50 labyrinth land before time, so... But he's not directing, so you say it's his production company, yeah. That's cool. Yeah. You also, these companies created a nonlinear audio and digital editing equipment and in 1985 a division of theirs created at the Pixar computer which was sold and that became Pixar so that's cool. That's all spun out a Lucasfilm and then in 1993 that saw what Jurassic Park was doing and he's like I'm gonna go back and finish my films I hated the special effects so that's why he redid them in 1997 with a whole lot of updated stuff and if you remember that. Yeah yeah people hated. It's very controversial.
Starting point is 01:29:24 It was not for Star Wars I guess. Yeah yeah yeah, people hated. It's very controversial. It's not my style. For Star Wars, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a weird thing because the people love the Star. Yeah, yeah, it affects. I think there are some good changes, but the majority of them,
Starting point is 01:29:34 like there's a dance number in one of them. Ewoks blink. There's the famous Han shot first one, which you may all may not be familiar with. I could explain it, but I'm not explain it but I know what it is. And I know that we'll never agree on what the truth is. Wait what is it? So basically very quickly there's a scene the first I was who sits down in the bar
Starting point is 01:29:55 Han Solo and his guy's got a gun on him and he's going to take him in because he owes somebody money and Han Solo shoots him to the table like unprovoked. Right. But in the he changed it so they shoot each other at the same time or that the guy shoots at him first and then Han shoots him to the table, like unprovoked, but in the change it so they shoot each other at the same time, or the guy shoots at him first and then Han shoots him. Because he's not a killer, so he retaliated, so that's a big controversy. And people debate about what it should be, right?
Starting point is 01:30:15 And he's copped a lot of flat because he's never released the original footage, the original trilogy again, like there, that does not exist, you cannot get it now to this day. Even on, I thought it was on like DVD actually. You can, no, I think it came on one extra from like years ago, but like a high definition of Blu-ray, you can't get it. It's annoying.
Starting point is 01:30:34 But fans have kind of made their own versions and released them, so if you want them, you can get them. Which I do. And in 1999, he went back to filmmaking or before that furry star was pre-cooked, which is a story for another day. I have one fun fact. Yes I never know what a fun fact is. I feel like this is gone for way too long
Starting point is 01:30:50 That's great. I hate it. People love the long ones. I can't control it. And it always feels whenever you're doing the report, it always feels shit. Yeah, it feels like every time I'm in a report, it's like wrap it up. Yeah, I'm really having a good time. No, I can sit and listen all day. Okay, good. Not, not all day. Not all day, I could I could sit listen all day. Okay, good. I don't not not all day all day I need to pee yeah
Starting point is 01:31:10 I never know what a fun fact is because sometimes you guys would be like Oh the side of the side. Okay before the original Star Wars was released which was originally called Star Wars It was changed to a new hope that's another thing thing who cares. But Lucas visited the set of Closing Counters, which was an alien film that Spielberg was making at the time. And it was like, this is amazing. This is a proper film. You're making something real. This is going to be the biggest film of all time.
Starting point is 01:31:33 So he said to Steven Spielberg, I'll tell you what, I'll give you 2.5% of Star Wars profits if you give me 2.5% of Closing Counters. And Spielberg was like, sure, whatever. But it's a weird deal. But he's a weird deal. Yeah, and Lucas made good on his promise and adjusted for inflation. Spielberg would have made about $40 million just from that. And from Closing Counters? He put $40,000.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Star Wars made $774 million and Closing Counters made $304. So he would have made a bit of money. Oh, so pretty good. Yeah, it was a big movie. I haven't seen that. Yeah, that's all you. That's good. James.
Starting point is 01:32:07 That is a fun fact. That is fun. That is fun fact, yeah. Because you know what it is, they're just mates. They are. And that's the thing about Lucas. People give him a lot of flak, but the reason he makes all the toys and the companies, and the reason he sold, Lucas filmed a Disney's because these are people he worked for,
Starting point is 01:32:21 works with, and he considers family. And it's like, if I leave and don't make any films, this all goes away. So he sold it on he gave it on a Disney so not only there would be more movies, but people would be protected like he's very That's great into person is it is given away so much money like he does seem like a good guy So no one people think he's a bit shit at making movies. He's but no one thinks he's a bad guy Is that right? Yeah, the problem with the prequels is it's just him and he didn't have those a lot of yes men. Right. The original star was there's a lot of pushback and that's kind of why it works.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I can come back and talk about the prequels everyone because that's another train wreck. I'm fascinated by that, yeah. Yeah. So the new ones, does he have anything to do with the new wall? No, he knows that. No, that doesn't send him scripts for anything. He's just that.
Starting point is 01:33:03 I think he's a consultant or whatever. He sold Lucasfilm for like four point something billion And he's probably got staking Disney and whatever But he also handed over script treatments for seven which they threw away And he's kind of a little bit bitter about that But he also wanted to make seven he was like I'll make seven and then you can make eight nine and they're like No, we just that would have been a nice thing. Yeah, I think, look, a lot of people saying
Starting point is 01:33:29 that he should have come back and done them, but I think he's a better, he's greater building worlds, and the reason why Star Wars works is because everything works. Is there a chance that they're bringing back for nine or are they already announcing? They're already got, who's doing that one? J.J. Abrams has done it again. The other guy got fired, so people get fired.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I think even just like to come on more hands on roll without having... He said this difficult because he... Hands on roll. Very, that's a fun fact. Am I doing that right? No. Yes. But he's very kind of protective and it's kind of like it's my way or not and he knows
Starting point is 01:34:06 that so he's like I just rather not know. Yeah. And he's criticized the new ones because they're like they're a bit derivative. At least with the prequels he'd try something new. Which he did but they're tough, they're a tough watch. Some people love him. Haven't seen an I reckon since they were at the movies and the first one came out when I was nine and I loved it and I had a Darth Ma more fat. Yeah, I was just kind of a people forget again
Starting point is 01:34:27 Yeah, people weren't a few years older now now they were yeah, you know 20 years older and had really rose colored glasses A lot of kids like love those films. Yeah totally Yeah, people who grew up with them love them. Which is what I built for. Yeah, that's right. Yeah at my school They were huge people don't like it because he's come out multiple times I mean like these films are for kids and like 40-year-old men are like how dare you Like there's a lot of that like but Star Wars upset this before. It's for everybody. That's the words for it's not for 40-year-old men. It's for every it's for literally everybody. Yeah. That's a lesson in that. That's beautiful Yeah, there's a lesson. There is you're right
Starting point is 01:35:02 I know you used to be a teacher, but you're still teaching I still like today. Yeah, throw one down every now. That's why you're so engaging. Yeah, thank you. That was great. Thank you for that. That was awesome. Thank you, Mr. Something movies. One very last thing I'm sorry. If you want to need more about this, there's a great talk about your called Empire of Dreams, which is all about the making of the original trilogy. It's on YouTube and there's a book called How Star Wars Conquer the Universe, which goes into more of George Lucas' personal life. Both very good.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Empire of Dreams is a great doco. It's a great doco title. That's so good. I thought Jess was going to say she'd say that. It's a great doco title. Great. That I will not watch. I've watched the title.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Is that the red it? I've read the title. I've heard the title. I've heard it, and I approve it. That's great. Thank you. Thanks so much, Mr. James. Thank you so much. Before we go, we've got one last thing that we like to do. And that is to thank everyone that listens to the show first of all. You guys make the show. Thanks everyone. That includes you James. Yeah, I'm a big fan. 90% thank you to you. I've got to get the rest of you guys on this well for the weekly. Get them on. These guys are massive nerds. Jess, what are you going to talk about?
Starting point is 01:36:08 I'm going to talk about Empire of Dreams. Yeah, a docker that I watched. Yeah. And I'll talk about diagnosis murder. Perfect. And I'm really keen to come back on and talk about Mr. Sheffield and also the original Hollywood bad boy Ryan Atwood. How much O.C. news do you guys report on? We touch on it, we dabble, but yeah it's been a bit quiet lately. I'm waiting for the reboot. It's coming back, I'm sure of it. It definitely will. I reckon it'll be a prequel episode 1-3.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Well, in the genuine bad boy days, when he was in Chino, stealing cars only because his brother was in a tight spot. I'm sure. Yeah, Tray. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Jones. So, let's do the original actor to play a 10-year-young even though he's 10 years old, and he was in that guy's like 38 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Yeah, he was old at the time. He was old at the time. He was old at the time, aren't they? They always are. Dawson's Creek, that blew my mind, but I'm like, these guys are like 47. I made that show. Gosh, you were Jackson, Jesus. What are we doing?
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Starting point is 01:37:30 And what a steal though. What a bargain. What a bargain. What a service. We don't do that. Yeah, that's right. Every month we've done another reason we're better than the weekly Friday.
Starting point is 01:37:39 That's correct. The list is up to one. There. I said it. I'm the bad boy of the podcast. I say what I think. There's no doubt about that. Really?
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yeah, I would have said that definitely, right. Are you going at the door? I know, he sits so far away. I don't even realize I'm doing it. He just slowly moves further and further back. How Mike Arms can be an extended better meter and a half. Love it. So it's a swipe way back there. He takes advantage of that. Alright, let's do it. We'd like to thank also some people by name that support the show. James, maybe if you can help us out with this, we normally have some sort of a game or something.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Not a game. That's not at all true. But we normally give people something. Let's give them a something special. Yeah, can you maybe give them who Which Star Wars universe character each name is most like? Oh Jesus. I'm not okay. All right. Okay. There's no way. Remembering that a couple of weeks ago we we were doing Roll-Dale titles. Yes, and Dave came up with What was it to Toby Johnson? No, there wasn with Toby Johnson. No, there wasn't Toby Johnson. He was a Toby.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Toby, someone and the amazing Uncle Toby's music song. Oh, hang on, you can't judge because you said Jess Perkins and not the Josh. The giant Josh. The giant Josh. Yeah, mine wasn't even a thing. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but This one sounds like a star wars character Donna Badell Donna Badell Sandy Ago San Diego A ways for Jada I said before the show I wasn't gonna say it but Jess has stepped up and I appreciate it
Starting point is 01:39:33 So I will always talk about a way else for Jada Oh God, I'm so Donna Donna I'm sorry, I'm not You know, I'll feel this one Donna is definitely to me she is she's got a Jabba the Hard ridden all over her do you think?
Starting point is 01:39:49 Yes, Donna the Hard, Donna the Hard I can't, alright, I can't I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't I can't, I can't, I can't I can't, I can't, I can't I can't, I can't I can't, I can't
Starting point is 01:39:58 I can't, I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar Binks. Oh man, she has not done well. No. What do you mean? I love Jar Jar Binks. Oh, you digs. He's meant to be the worst character of all time. I thought but no. It's what they say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And the other one is Jason Feister. Oh, that's got that's Jabba the Heart. That's a Jabba the Heart. Feaster. Feaster the Heart. There you go. We just do everyone can be the Heart. Can we just be the husk? Oh yeah, that went. I still love Feast, uh. Oh, that's the wrong movie. Where's Jason from? South Carolina. Very cool. That's really close to North Carolina, which is where Michael Jordan played college basketball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:36 Great fact. Yeah, it's good. I hate you. Yeah, add to it every time. Thank you, Jason, the heart. I would like to thank from Yellowknife, an amazing town, or city name, in Canada. Cole Bouchard.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Oh that's good. I reckon he's the bounty hunter. What's the bounty hunter? It's thinking the same thing, Boba Fett. Boba Fett. Bouchard Shudd. Bouchard Fett. I think we've got to go back to your second guy.
Starting point is 01:41:02 That felt, that felt just underwhelming, giving him the heart. The heart again. Feaster. Feaster. Like, who's the guy with the cloak? It looks like the Emperor. Yeah, I reckon he's the Emperor.
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Starting point is 01:41:39 Also, Henson's got the Yoda. I was gonna say, I can't even put him in here. It's Frank Osby. It's all connected. They're friends. So they're definitely friends. It's got the Yoda. I was gonna say, yeah, you could have been Yoda. It's Frank Osbert. Yeah. It's all connected. They're friends. So they're definitely friends. It's all Rainbow connected. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:49 I would also, may I, may I go? Please. I would like to thank some people. I would like to thank Derek Brigham from Knoxville, Tennessee. Of course, Derek is a famous character in Star Wars. Yes, correct, yeah. Derek, R2 Derek. That him?
Starting point is 01:42:04 That's great. Yeah, R2 Derek. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That him? That's good. Yeah, R2 Derek. It's the guy that plays R2D2. Yeah, dead, yes. Was that a question? Oh, no, I'm thinking of Anthony Daniels,
Starting point is 01:42:16 the guy plays the gold guy. No, you're thinking of the guy that plays Wicked. The one that was in the TV show, Derek. Oh, that's Wicked. Yes, that's Wicked. That's Warwick Davis. Warwick Davis. So that's wicked yes that's uh work Davis Warwick Davis so that's also Willow he's also Willow and what does he install was he something he's wicked the airwalk oh he's an e-walk so I
Starting point is 01:42:31 I'm so he was in it no that's Kenny Baker isn't it Kenny Baker was supposed to be wicked but he got sick so oh so sorry anyway uh Derek I love your work so oh man he tied that back to you last so nicely. We're going to meet little boat. Where's Derek from again? Knoxville, Tennessee. Oh, home of the Wigsfield.
Starting point is 01:42:53 The Sunsphere, for the 1986 World's Fair. That's full of Wigsfield. It's kind of like Earth's own Death Star, the Wigsfield. And whoever. They built in a small defect into death star, the Wigs' video. This is, yeah. And whoever built in one small defect into it. Or the Wigs. And the Wigs. And if you take out the Wigs, it explodes.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I got a tweet from someone who was driving through and took a photo of the Wigs' video. I love it. I loved it. I love it. And Jess, son of a... And I would also like to thank someone, we know quite well.
Starting point is 01:43:22 From sail, but we met him in Stratford's it's Kieran Donoh here and are there any accountants in Star Wars because I know Kieran I'm that Kieran. Yeah, it's Kieran's part of the casting and he's come to our live shows. What a gentleman with a boring job. General yeah and look I forgive him for it but at the same time I die. Why would you? No yeah he's obviously evil.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Maybe he's Darth Vader. Yeah. Darth Vader. Yep. There you go. Deep face of the account, right? Darth Vader. He crunches numbers, crunches next.
Starting point is 01:43:57 That's right. Darth Kiran. As long as he's crunching. Don't have a cure. What have been a very different movie? It's just not a joke. You know, there's a lot of Darth. What does Darth mean? Does it mean you're in a Jedi? It's like a title. It's like a cure. What have been a very different movie? It's just not a joke. You know, there's a lot of darts.
Starting point is 01:44:06 What does darts mean? It's like a title. It's like a title. Like, Mr. It's like evil general sort of thing. Is that kind of what it is? It's like a Sith title. It's like a Sith title.
Starting point is 01:44:16 It's like a Sith. I'm such a fucking nerd. Hate myself. I love you. Love yourself. It's a big reason why we have you here. Because you hate yourself like we had ourselves and it feels right Um, could I thank some people sure? I'd love to thank toss and Rand
Starting point is 01:44:31 He's from Victoria in Canada We see but we're in Victoria in Australia mind blown. Wow What was the name? Toss and Rand yeah What what was the name? Tyson Rand. Yeah, Rand O'Cale. Wish we'd finished on that one Matt Scott's sadly another person. Disappointing Tyson Rand yeah Rand O'Cale, Louisiana. Brilliant. He and he's the girl with the mustache. He's got the mustache in the cloud land He's got in cloud cities and he's the mustache. He's in the cloudland. He's got in cloud cities. And he's sort of like he betrays him. He got a cost of like children in real life
Starting point is 01:45:08 of betraying hands up. betraying hands solo. He broke my heart. I'm a breaking my heart. He was stressed. What was he going to do? He was a real good guy generally and then. He was a good guy at heart but the the Empire got their first. He only had to do it because he had the gun to his head so that it's big. Correct. Who shot first? Not Lando. Well, not even there. Well, that answers that long question.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Long question. Who shot first? Actually quite a short question. I'd also like to thank from Broughton Sussex. Steve Hanmer. Which I've talked about before. In a previous life he was the Hammer of Justice. Hanmer Solo. Hanmer Solo, yes. did it. We did it. I was hard on like that. I know you're not a fan. Yes The puns. No, I love I'm that was great. No, it's good stuff. I wasn't I wasn't setting up that up as a pun thing you took it to pun town Which is a place. Population. Where there are puns.
Starting point is 01:46:09 It's a beautiful, beautiful place. Now, James, we can, of course, listen to your dulcet turns every single week on the weekly planet with our good friend, Nick Mason. Correct, yes. The fifth beetle of the show, yeah. Comes out Mondays. Comes out Mondays.
Starting point is 01:46:21 I also have a YouTube channel called Mr. Sonnet movies. We're going to start filming the podcast hopefully soon. I'll say that. I'm very glad. So then I have to do it. I'll assume that you've got a lot of Star Wars themed YouTube videos that people can Devare. There are so many and they're too in depth for No, that's great. It's good. But yeah, no. But if people are searching for that because they want Star Wars podcast, they probably want Star Wars content So there you go. It's a lot of me just making fun of Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I did a great I did a great time being on your show. I was gonna say I did a great show. I did a great show I did a great one. It's on my fridge at my parents' house. We did shed universe. Yeah, that's right That's great. I think we talked about the Ninja Turtles probably we did because it cost over the dead I was a bloody thing. Wow. Yeah, solies my mind. And the symptoms we talked about. We did. That was a lot of fun. So people should listen to that, just because it makes me feel good to know that it wasn't
Starting point is 01:47:12 a waste of my time. It was there. That was a lot of fun. And all the other Planet Broadcasting podcasts. You've had a few guests on there. We're getting to everybody. That's the plan. We're getting to everybody that's the plan. Yeah, we're getting around yeah except for
Starting point is 01:47:29 But not everyone but no no no, you guys know right you get it. Yeah, we know he's banned He's bad news. He was if right right out was the original bad boy of Hollywood nox was number two Just got beaten it's gonna be be his teeth. Usually inspired by, of course. They're both brooding bad boys with eyes that just make you melt. I feel uncomfortable. When the Nox is looking into your eye, yeah me too, we all do. Adam Knox of course is from the filthy casuals podcast. If you have no idea who we're talking about there big time prick Of course you want to get in contact with us any at anytime or suggest a topic for us to report on you can get in contact via email Doo go on pod at gmail.com where at doo go on pod on Instagram Facebook Twitter Facebook
Starting point is 01:48:19 I've already said that whatever you know getting contact any of those things you can now suggest a topic to us and we'll have a bloody website coming soon. WordPress website, how about that? So much, so much on the go. But thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Mary. This is great show and I'm sorry for, I feel like I just went in this hub and then. No, that's how it feels as a reporter. We feel that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 And we've been doing this for a hundred and a something. Plus bonuses. Plus bonuses. So trust me, that's the correct feeling. And what will come from that will be a great episode. So so good. So thanks for listening guys. We'll see you next week with another episode. But until then, I will say goodbye. Bye. Bye also. Oh, but whatever. I don't care. We're about to hear from you. Oh, but whatever, I don't care. Yeah, we're about to hear from you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Just stop it now. Shh. Yeah, great mates. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. I mean, if you want, it's up to you. Hey James, Mrs. Sunday Moonlight. How would you, so could you describe our show in like a sentence?
Starting point is 01:49:47 Oh, okay. Yeah, so it's tough. It is tough, it's like a, it's not news, it's informative. It's a loose, informative chat on a topic, generally not a current, I was going to say current event, it's not that, it that, I know I can't. Yeah, it's impossible. That's really, and just like that, the simple, simply the best description
Starting point is 01:50:10 we've ever had of this show. It's not news, it's not current, but it's, yeah. It's my him. It's an informative, not retrospective, no, that's not even, because sometimes it's current. Like Hugh Heffner. Like Hugh Heffner like you
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah, we're cutting edge we're talking about only the most cutting edge people like a 92 year old dead man But we're not gonna like talk about anybody who could hear it and you know be mad at us I don't think so. We're not idiots We wait till they die then they don't serve then they get it Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT. You could enjoy a recession-resistant career in a rewarding field, with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments. Go to mycomputercareer.edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new career in months, not years.
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