Do Go On - 106 - Star Wars with MR SUNDAY MOVIES

Episode Date: November 1, 2017

Star Wars is a topic that has often been requested, but none of us felt worthy to tackle it, so we brought in the big guns! Mr Sunday Movies is the host of the Weekly Planet podcast which is an awesome comic book movie related pod. Today though, he's taking us through one of the biggest movie franchises of all time - Star Wars! Check it out!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Sunday MoviesTwitter: @mrsundaymoviesPodcast: https://www.planetbcasting.com/our-shows/the-weekly-planet/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenjai Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

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And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. I'm here with Matt and Jess. And also a very special guest, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. Sunday movie. Hello. Oh my God. Thank you for having me. I'm here to break the rhythm of your show. Sometimes when a guest comes on a show, I'm like, oh, I don't like this because the flow's gone.

I've already done it. I've talked for too long. Somebody else says something. Now you're just overthinking. You're in your own head now. That's all good stuff. It's all good. How are you?

I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm doing all right. Matt's trying to have a beer. Because Matt, let's talk about how we're recording on your B-day. Happy birthday.

Happy B-day. Happy 100th birthday. We are actually the same age. What? You're also 113. That's 113. You look great. The big 113.

You do look really good. Are you still a goat? in the podcast universe? Some people will not give it up. It's still my avatar in a lot of places, so yeah. I don't think it's ever going to go away. So for people who don't know you, you're a goat. Yes.

Yep. Beautiful. And maybe the most famous podcaster in the world. Certainly in the room right now. Certainly the most famous goat. Podcaster. Yeah. There's that screaming Taylor Swift ghost.

Holy shit. I love that so much. That's the more famous goat. For those that don't know what that is, including me, what the fuck is that? So there's this goat, there's this video of a goat, and it's making this weird noise. It's kind of like, ah! But then people have put that into the Taylor Swift song. Which song?

Trouble. Yeah, it's real great. Now I'm lying on the cold hard. Ah! So fucking funny. It's really funny. Like, I first saw that at Southern Cross Train Station, approximately 2015, I want to say, and, like, was crying with laughter on the train platform.

People came up with like, are you okay? Are you okay? I'm like, this is the funniest video. Latter on a train story. Lafter on the train, the best. Yeah. The best. My class used to request that.

They'd be like, play the Taylor Swift goat. So funny. If you guys are good, I'll play the Taylor Swift goat. It's multi-generational that joke. Yeah. I'll show you after. It's worth it. Yeah, it is.

So good. The one that made me go like that was the Jurassic Park theme. Melotica. That's very funny. I watch that a hundred times. I was going to A first time I saw it, I was in a cold rock Oh yeah

Late night ice cream You always remember the first time you saw it Yeah, cold rock What'd you get? My cousin's played it for me I didn't eat No No

I'm just social, I'm a social ice creamer Sure Are you going for the conversations Yeah, that's right One large conversation, please Oh that's nice Yeah, good for you In a waffle cone

In a waffle cone Yeah It's good. Have a waffles. Yeah, I get it. I didn't mean. That was unintentional pun. Sometimes his best jokes, he doesn't mean.

And I go, oh, very good. And then he realizes what he said. What does she mean? I've done a few, a few times lately it shows where the crowd will give me like a groan because I've done a pun. And then I realize, oh, hang on, no. No, no, no, no. I didn't mean that. How dare you?

How dare you think I did that on purpose? Now, for the 0.001% of our listeners that don't know who you are, you are one of the co-hosts of the weekly podcast. With the fabulous Nick Mason, who's been a guest on the show many a time. A couple of times. He's our fifth beetle. Oh, right, yeah. Nick who?

You're now a sixth beetle. Yeah, you're our sixth beetle. Oh, that's nice. I'll take that. Absolutely. Yeah, good for you. That's the spot you want. Definitely, yeah.

Someone dies. I'm in. Fingers crossed. Two people die. And you're part of, slash one of the head honchos of the network. We're part of Planet Broadcasting. It's mostly clear.

But yes. People will know your voice from the start of our episodes. Yeah. Yeah, the worst thing in the world. We're going to redo that soon as well because the website is changing. We've got Planet Broadcasting.com. It's all unfolding in a big way.

What six-figure sum did you have to give out to get that? I do not want to tell you. But it's some son of a bitch got in. Oh, no. What's in six figures? But it was more than three figures. That's too many figures. Yeah, I know, yeah.

Well done. Yeah, that's right. What a wily businessman that person was. I did a few ads for things that I hate just to cover it. It's wondering why you're doing those heroin spots. I'm a big fan. This podcast brought to you by heroin. There's bugs in my skin.

Heroin. We are really good. at advertising. Anyway, let's do a pod. Now, we've had a lot of requests to have you on the show. It's taken a bit of wrangling,

a bit of scheduling to get you in here. We were very thankful that you've got along. Our people had to speak to your people. That's right. No, that's absolutely my fault. A bunch of really bad and weird stuff happened to Claritine in the last few months, so everything's been getting pushed back.

I was telling you before the show, she could knock her teeth out recently. Yeah. That's pretty fucked up. But, yeah, that is. But also strange that you put that above being a guest on our poddusts for free. I mean, seriously.

Priorities, mate. Yeah, yeah, but no, it's such a good show. I think I've listened to probably 90% probably more. Interesting, which ones have you... Oh, I guess too many to... Always focus on that positive. That always happens with positive and negative feedback. I was actually listening to the Hugh Heffner one on the way.

What a guy. Hey, I'm not up to the weird creep stuff yet, though. I'm going to say, he only gets better. Yeah. Oh, with A. then death. Yeah. But hey, that's cool, I guess.

I'm glad you listened. Thank you. Yeah, well, I'm not finished yet. So, again, I'm not to the real weird stuff yet. So so far, he's a hero. He's a big hero of mine. Yeah. The way that we get into the topic of the day is with a question.

You better believe it. And you're giving us the topic today. You've brought it in. We kind of know what the broad topic is. That's right. I kind of fluctuated because I was originally going to do just Star Wars. There's so much Star Wars. And then I did.

It was going to do just George. Lucas and then going through that that kind of bled into the original Star Wars trilogy so I'm like I'll just talk about the original Star Wars trilogy and the goings on are you guys all Star Wars fanatics? Oh yeah

bloody Luke I've seen them all I've seen them all I've also seen them all I've also seen them all I've only seen two until about five years ago an ex-girlfriend was a massive fan and we watched all six at the time

and I've watched the two new ones at the cinemas yes very good And I fell asleep in the last one. Yeah, right. I felt like, I think, I reckon 20 minutes into the one from last year. I was like, oh, I don't think I could do this every year. The one before I was really excited.

I'm like, I mean, these are the first ones. I'm like a current fan while they're coming out. Harrison Ford's bloody back. Yeah, that was great fun. And then the next one I'm like, oh, this seems similar. Right, yeah, yeah. Space. It's still like, I like, I like it, but it just feels a bit the same.

Yeah, yeah. The people are mixed on that one, that last one. So, yeah, you're not alone. Even Star Wars, man. sleep. So I don't fully know if I liked it or not. But I did love that last scene, which I think a lot of people did where

Darth, Darth, Star, Darth, Scott, what? Darth Skywalker. Darth Scar. Darth Vader. What's his, David? You're thinking of the bad guy from the Lion King. Lion King. Played by the same man. No, but

Darth Vader was in that movie as the Mufusso. Correct. Yeah. But anyway, look, new listeners will not still be listening at this stage, I reckon anyone who's going, I'll Google Star Wars podcasts and I did not get five minutes into this time.

Jump over to Steel Wars Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was I talking about? You fell asleep, the last scene. Oh yeah, Darth Vader like tore apart a corridor of people and that was sick. That was a late inclusion.

That was really? Was it? Because I was thinking, God, this film feels like it should be over and there's been no lightsaber action and I'm pretty disappointed. Oh my God, this is cool! So you noticed there was no lightsaber action

so you're definitely a person who understands I like going, I go to all the Star Wars at the movies because my favorite thing about it is the soundtrack. Oh, it's great soundtrack, yeah. It's some of the best music, and I love hearing it in that sort of surrounds out massive theater style. That, I love that. Yeah. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, done, done, done. Is that from it?

Yeah, that's absolutely from it. That's great. That's a good one. I get a little bit emotional when I hear the. Oh, man, I feel that every time. I miss the scroll or whatever you call. Oh, in the new one, that was no, the one before that, I got there five minutes late. Oh, you missed it, like, literally missed it.

Yeah, I feel like I'm like, I miss it. I feel like they should do it in those as well. It's very confusing to it. But it feels like, just do it. If you didn't know what that was, you'd be like, where am, what is this? Yeah. Jess, what's your favorite thing of Star Wars? We've all said a favorite thing.

Oh, Java the hut. Yeah, he's going to do. Did you say Java? Java. The, uh, the internet code. I love Java. Is that what it is? JavaScript.

I love it. Jabba out there. Not, yeah, Jabba the hut. What's his? Oh my God. Are they huts? He's a hut, yeah. So those guys, I like pizza the hut.

Oh, from Spaceball. Anyway, I'm editing a lot of this out. We normally start the episode with a question. I just wanted to ask, so, Jess, have you seen them? Yeah. And that is the question. Okay, good. Yeah.

All of them? I think, no. Yes, no. I'll probably say some stuff and you'll be like, yeah, I'm vaguely with that. I'm across it. Most people know them. even if they don't. It's like Beatles songs.

You kind of know them even if you don't know them. Yeah. My question is, though, this isn't a great question. How many of the original Star Wars films were directed by George Lucas? Oh. Oh. See, I would have assumed all, but the fact you're asking the question. Yeah, but is he tricking us?

I feel, no, I think I heard something about this where there was something like a strike or something and he wasn't able to do the last one or something. There was something like that, but that's why that. In name, maybe he did or something. I'm going to say three. Okay. Two. I'll say two. I reckon one and three. Okay. He just did the first one.

He did the original and then he stepped away. Yeah. Really? He really did. Yeah, absolutely. But he did come back for four, five and six. He did. I know, sorry, one, two and three.

If you're getting technical with the... Yeah, sorry, it's confused everyone. People will email you. Believe me. Yep. Let's send those emails to, I do not give a fuck at gmail.com. Okay, we definitely need to register that. email address

by the way. Let's jump on that. I want that. So that's the topic. That's topic, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Do I'm going to get into it? Get into it.

First of all, we should say, many people have requested that we do a Star Wars topic and nearly all of them have said Can a Mr. Sunday movies do it? Sure. I'd like to say thank you to these people on Twitter for suggesting us

Ben M. Davies, Austin Bracket, Tarkomatic. Personal favorite there. And I think it may even get better with Wenkins Horder. Very good. I recognize some of those names. That's really cool.

They all requested that you... Talk about the Star Wars. They made this happen. That's beautiful. George Lucas was born... I'm just going to do all this. Is that cool? So fine.

I was born in 1944. His parents... No. His parents were office supplies, they sold office supplies and owned a walnut ranch, apparently. Great combo. I know, right?

Some people are actor slash singer. Some people are office supplies slash walnut ranches. I didn't look into whether they overlapped. I don't know. I thought that just meant that's like a horse place. Yeah, no, you can have anything. Well, he's got Skywalker Ranch is now a thing where they do all the films that they're made out of.

It's a facility. Ranch dressing is a thing? Yeah. That's it. As a teenager, he was kind of aimless and all he wanted to do was like be a car mechanic and race cars and just do whatever. It wasn't a great student. But then he got in this horrific automobile accident that said should have killed him. Like any other person, for whatever reason, he got out of it and alive.

And from then he went, you know what? I'm going to do the things like. I love every day from now on is a gift. Hang on, but he was doing the thing he loved, which was racing cars and it fucked them up. Yes, absolutely. Not a good choice. Maybe you should just settle.

It's just become complacent. Yeah, that's what I'd probably do. Yeah, that's what I've done. Like, what's the point? Just be safe. Yeah, he could be killed at any second. But yeah, it was, um, he loved social science and anthropology and photography, which, which led him into film.

So his grades from school went up in a big way because he's like, like I said, every day's a gift. I'm going to do something. The car accent was at school. It was before he started high school, but their high school is like, because you know, they have middle school. I don't know how it's exactly. I don't know. Yeah, the grassy junior high.

Some sort of freshman. Middle. Freshman and then you got, what else you got? Quarterbacks. Sophomore. And the sophomore and also the queen of the dairy ball. What the fuck is wrong with you? Girlfriend of the quarterback.

Prom queen? These are all stages that most Americans go through. That's correct. The queen of the dairy ball. What the, what is that? What's a dairy ball? Yeah, you're asking because you never, you never got that love. And you know that's, I'm really sensitive about that.

Yeah, well, George grew up in a ranch and they have plenty of dairy balls there. I should just point out also, a lot of this information is conflicting. Like, he sometimes says things different from other things. So please don't email that the dress that Dave said. If you have any concerns, yeah. So we decided to go into the film industry, but it was kind of, it was in an era where you couldn't, do well if no if you didn't know somebody or your dad wasn't the boss of Warner brothers is that not still how it is absolutely still how it is yeah but he

kind of befriended he befriended directors like Stephen Spielberg and Francis Ford Coppola so there were these young hot-shot directors coming up together and instead of competing his idea was and he kind of maintains this to this day that you boost each other up so if one person gets a job then they'll give you know for somebody else a role in that particular film or if you go for a job and you don't get it you recommend a friend so rising tide all ships you know that that that that expression. Love that expression.

That's the theory behind Planet Broadcasting. That's the idea. That's mostly so we don't drown. Everybody has games us afloat. Planetbroadcasting.com coming soon. Coming soon. That's right.

So, yeah, so at university or college, what are they call it, a lot of film students complain that, I don't have enough, I can't make a film, but he'd take any opportunity to like he did an animation class and they gave him one minute of footage

so he made a short film from it, which ended up winning like 25 awards or something like that. Wow. He did this really, A lot of awards. Yeah, I know, right? From one minute.

Yeah, you should, it's very student film. It's like, pictures of war and flowers and fire and love. And at the end, it's like, the end, question mark. You know, it's that kind of thing. So, good. Yeah, but no one had kind of done anything like that. So it, like, yeah, I know, right. So it revamped, apparently the animation department, according to him.

And so he used to take any opportunity. So it's like, if you give me a minute of film, I'm going to do something. I'll win 25 awards. Yeah, exactly. So that's the kind of the guy that he was. And he off the back. could be short film THX

1138 he made a it's such a catchy title I know personality you know exactly what it's about

I don't even see I don't need to see that I've got it a lot of people love it I don't I'm not a huge fan again no fucks given

a Gmail dot com yeah that's right but so he made this kind of it's dystopian future where they control your thoughts and it's black and white

and society's in your mind and whatever you know all that kind of stuff, if that makes any sense. But so, and from there, Water Brothers financed it through him and Francis Ford Coppola's company, but they saw it and they were like, this sucks. And they released it, but it didn't make their money.

Like it made some money, but it didn't make their money back. So his first endeavour, though it kind of was revolutionary at the time, and a lot of people do love it to this day. It didn't do particularly well. Why? Yeah. And it was around this time that he went, okay, oh, Francis Ford Coppola dared him to make, like, like a teen fun comedy romance kind of thing.

My favorite genre. Exactly. So in 1973 he made American graffiti with Ron Howard was in it, who's now directing the New Star Wars. And Harrison Ford, a very young Harrison Ford, and it's about car culture in the 50s, so it's like what he grew up with. And the studio again hated it.

But this was universal this time, and they didn't want to release it. And then they ended up cutting out some footage of it, and they did release it. And it did super well. Yeah. But he was always kind of resentful that they took his project and kind of altered it. It's amazing to me that a studio is like, we've spent a lot of money on this.

I'd prefer just to put it in the bin. Then just put it out there and see what happens. And it just turns out of a big success. I think because I guess it's marketing costs and putting it into cinemas. I guess they're trying to cut their losses at that point. But yeah, I'm with you. It also does feel a bit like, we'll give you all this money. and then they come back two years later

and they're like, oh hang on, I probably should have monitored the process a bit more. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like when it's done is probably not the time to go, actually I have some edits to it. Yeah, that's right. I have some opinions. Let's have a chat before it's done, I reckon.

And a lot of it's because it was the new system kind of clashing with the old system. Like he was a rebel, he's out there, you know, in a big way. Those rusty old dogs didn't know what they were talking about. They certainly didn't. bloody in their ivory towers. Hey? How about them?

Come down here, walk with the real men. Yeah. Shortly cropped grey beards. You better believe it. All those three have the same beard, right? They all have the same beard, yeah. Which, yeah, that's a bit of a spillberg. Bive about me?

Just the other talent and money. But, uh, so, and this is when, all this time, he had this idea for a, uh, a Flash Gordon-esque space opera. Because he used to love those cereals from the 30s. You know, Flash Gordon. Yeah, my granddad was really into them. He had heaps of the comics. Yeah.

He borrowed a lot of the ideas from Flash Gordon. Flash Gordon invented the scrolling text. Well, not invented it, but maybe popularized it, which he used for the first style. Flash Gordon isn't the Flash. He's a different guy. Is he even from the... Is he from Marvel or DC?

I don't know who owns him currently. Or is he even like... He might be separate. Somebody probably owned... I don't know who owns him now. Flash Gordon. There was a TV show a few years back, but there was a movie from the 80s.

And if you've seen the movie Ted, it's referenced in that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And is the Queen. song? Yes. Flash. Ah!

Yeah. Yeah. So good. But I'm never seen it. Doom, do, do, do, do, do. Very dramatic. I love it. And Ming the Merciless.

That's the best bad guy in there. Oh, that's where Ming the Merciless was. There are a lot of very, very heavy Asian stereotypes in these kind of... I love the name only. Not the stereotype. I love a long, wispy beard that they all used to have. Of course. But he, um...

So he says that he was going for something Flash Gordon, but there's also stories that he wanted Flash Gordon, and now he wouldn't give it to him. So he's like, I'll make my own Flash Gordon, you sons of bitches. So the script that he wrote was kind of steeped in, like, Joseph Campbell was the hero with a thousand faces. You guys familiar with that? It's like a, it's a book he wrote.

And it's basically about how all good or great mythology kind of borrows from the same source material, like King Arthur Baywolf and whatnot. They've got like an old knight, you know, like an excalibur, a young adventure. or a princess, comedy relief, like Star Wars draws on all of that. Like it's an old story

with kind of a new skin on it. Yeah, cool. Yep, that makes sense. That makes sense, yeah. So, but so not at all, inventive. Quite a simple,

sort of... Derivative. Derivative. It's a pastiche. Yeah, you can say it's a prestige. Hey, it's a prestige with lightshavers, Matt. That's right.

Just can't believe it. He's so hungover. And he just, there was also the look on his face when he said, Pistice. He ripped that out. Fuck, that's a fun word.

I enjoyed that a lot, Matt. Thanks for that. Fantastic. Pastiche. It's my birthday, but you're getting the presents. Matt, you're a gift every day. That's lovely. Matt and I were going through a real phase,

or we were budding heads a lot. Oh, I heard. Yeah. And now we're really, we're working on it. We're working on it. We've never been stronger. Yeah. The podcast has never been weaker.

It's better when we're mean. I think it, I think, The turning point was the word you told him he was cool. And there was some kind of like, is this genuine? He's going, fuck you. Each one of them felt different every time you said it. So I didn't even know as a listener what I was. Do you know what?

Half a third row, I didn't know what I meant anymore. I was just getting a reaction. Yeah, yeah. But for the record, Matt's use of the word pastiche was so cool. So cool. Anyway, sorry. That's fine. That's all good.

So sci-fi films up to this point, they hadn't really been super successful. There wasn't really blockbusters like there was today. Like, Jaws was said to be like the first kind of real one, which isn't a sci-fi film. It's about a shark or something. Yeah. No, it is about a shark. It's definitely about a shark.

And the need for a bigger boat. Correct. That's about two things. But the most successful film up to that point, sci-fi film was 2001 Space Odyssey, which made 24 million. So that's like best case scenario. Right. So he started with a 14-page treatment, which he brought to Universal and United Artists,

and they were like, this is rubbish. And no. And a follow up from that, no. Go away. This is rubbish. How much do you want? It must have sounded like rubbish. If you're explaining it to me in a world where sci-fi was just unsuccessful,

like, go away. It's not only rubbish, it's unfilmable. Right. None of the stuff that they did and it was made any sense. It was names of planets and people that didn't exist. It was set in the past. You kept changing the story. It's like, it's insane.

If you read like the original outline, it's like, this is, nobody would make this. Wow, that's cool. Yeah. So, anyway, he brought it to Alan Ladd Jr., who was one of the studio chiefs at 20th Century Fox, who was like, I don't get this, but you're great. So, well, give you $8 million and you can do it because he liked American graffiti. And American graffiti made $100 million or something like that. Oh, shit.

Yeah, you're pretty. Yeah, all right. You can do it. Just backed him. Just bloody backed him. That's cool. Yes, please. massive gear change.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he was kind of, he was pretty progressive and he was, if you see interviews with this guy, he's a pretty, pretty chill dude. Right. Or he was just like, it's not my money. I don't care.

Yeah. Yeah. He's work here. Lab Jr. I like that. I like that attitude. Yeah. It's not my money.

Throw it against the wall. And he copped a bit of flack as well, like from the other studio executives like during the filming. They were like, lad, you've really blown it. You, son of a bitch. But, uh, it was, it felt so sweet. I know, right? Right.

Yeah. It initially it was called The Star Wars. Oh, yuck. I know, right? Yeah, it's weird, right? Yeah, it's like The Facebook. Yeah, that's good. The Batman.

The Batman. It's like what your grandfather would call the movie. Yeah. The Star Wars. Have you seen this new thing that kids are talking about? The Star Wars. And you go, Grandpa. It's Star Wars.

Yeah. Luke Skywalker. You don't get me. So in the original draft, or one of the many drafts, there was Luke was Luke Star. killer. They're like, Grandpa,

it's star killer. Star killer. Hate it. They're like, that's a bit kind of aggressive. So they kind of went away from that.

Darth Vader was just a guy in a space helmet. Like it wasn't part of the costume. And they called him Space helmet. Here comes space helmet. Yeah. In Spaceball,

his name was big helmet. Dark helmet. Dark helmet. Dark helmet. Yeah, that's it. But, because there was a concept art. Someone drew a picture of him,

which I'll talk about later briefly, where he was in a helmet. And they were like, oh, we just leave him in that. So that was where that came from. So he's nude from the helmet down. That's correct. Those little things are, you know, they're so iconic now.

The helmets and the Darth Vader costume is a big part of the success of it. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Talking is hard a day. I'm sorry, gosh. You said you got prestige out, so we're good. You're good. Everything from here is forgiven.

Hans Solo was a green-skinned alien. Luke was at one point going to be 60 The force was going to be about like a Khyber crystal like a crystal you had to get And it would give you powers It was all the whole thing And it was his first script was like Oh the script was like 200 pages

And he went I can't make this I'll just do the first third And that's how he did That's how the idea Did you just grab a certain amount of pages over the top And we'll stop there Yeah that's fine Did that become the trilogy?

Yeah I mean there's kind of There's a debate as in how much he changed along the way because there's some people think that he the dark veda Luke Skywalker father something wasn't he didn't have that in mind and some people think he always had it planned out but I think he didn't I think he was making it up as he went along and that's why the kiss between Luke and layout was at the time that wasn't meant to be a weird thing yeah that was definitely a late edition

because they weren't supposed to be related that's a very weird moment in that room I bet he was like thank God we cut the sex scene yeah thank well there was more kissing there's deleted scenes of kissing more or getting real close. There's always more kissing. I'd love to get a copy. Yeah, sure, I've got it on me, so. Yeah.

So is Luke and Hahn and that, they're all the same species? They're all humans, yeah. So they've all come from Earth initially. Well, there's humans from different planets. But yeah, there's, because this is from before. Yeah, before. Oh, man. Yeah.

This is from before. Where's you from? Carilia. Princess Lay's from Alderan, but are initially born on a moon. Luke Skywarkers from Tatooine, but he's. was also born on a moon because he was twins. It's based on. Yes.

But were those humans in this world initially from Earth and they went off to other planets? Star Wars is set thousands of years in the past in another galaxy. Right, that's right. In a galaxy far, far away. So it would have been hard for them to come from Earth. Yeah. So it's just another universe where humans came together at the same time and look exactly the same. That's right.

Yeah, but how many lungs do they have? That's a good question. I've never opened one up. They've never done that. film. Right, well, there's a few plot holes here, George. But yeah, in the original trailer, it's like, this whole thing could be happening right now in a galaxy next to you.

So they didn't even know, they were just like, it's whenever, wherever. And in the trailer, they didn't mention number of lungs. No, there was no direct reference. So strange. Yeah, I don't know, yeah. That's the first thing they do in every movie trailer. Like, do you remember the trailer for the notebook? Yeah.

And they're like, two people, both with two lungs. Four in total. And then there was a lot of kissing. I love kissing because I can breathe two of my working lungs Oh my God, me too Breathe in deep The miracle of oxygen

Now to continue kissing I haven't seen it Spoilers Sorry I did not mean to ruin the notebook One of my favourite movies That is the big finale as well They discover they both have two lungs Yeah

That's a mystery That's what brings them together. I'm still searching for the person out there who has the same number of lungs as me. Good luck. Yeah. What are the chances? I believe he's out there. How many have you got?

Eight. You got eight, yeah. I've got 17. I was going to say eight seems like a lot, but 17's more, isn't it? It's all relative, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's step back, get a little perspective on the lungs. That's why Matt's so large.

Oh, every limb just stretched out. Yeah, there's lungs all the way down. arms. Okay. Yeah. My legs are full of lungs. It's all lungs. My brain's a lung.

Your head does go in and out. Yeah. It's a real... It takes a lot of getting used to watching his head move as he talks to, but after a while, you just kind of get used to it. Except him for him. It's about the... It's robbing calves.

Oh, great. I don't know why that was a catalyst. All right, Jess, thanks. Sorry. My very appearance is worthy of a yuck. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know, that's your least favorite word too. Sorry, James.

Do go on. This is all good stuff. So Ralph Macquarie was hired as a concept artist. George Lucas bought him on because he's like, I've got this idea in my head, but I can't make it reality. If I go in and pitch this, people are going to be like, we don't know, we don't understand any of this. And he drew these beautiful pictures,

which you can see online, which flesh out the world and the characters. They're really amazing. And does it look anything like we would think now? Yeah, there's definitely elements of it. There's things in it that you couldn't do necessarily, but they're pretty bloody dead on. And so that worked in the budget for $8 million was approved. It was a bit over $8 million.

For the casting, Harrison Ford originally wasn't there to, it wasn't going to be in it. George Lucas didn't want to use anyone he'd used before because he was in American graffiti. Harrison Ford was like doing some carpentry work for him at the time and they just brought him in to read lines opposite actors. So they were like, no, you're the best one. We'll do it.

Yeah. Oh, love that. Other people went up for it were Sylvester Stallone, who's talked about openly. In the audition, he was like, I'm sorry, I didn't get this, did I? I'm going to leave. He wishes he. Can't imagine.

Edwin! Right to walk he win! Kurt Russell and Nick Nolty. Pat Noltsmoff does a Nick Nolty Star Wars joke if anybody's... So you guys are comedians. We are, thank you. And we're going to recreate that joke right now. Thanks for putting us in the same category as Pat Nolte Nolts.

Absolutely. Is it a new special? No, not yet. It's very good. I want to. I heard it's amazing. Yeah. I want to see it.

Where is it on? It's on Netflix. Netflix. It's a bloody wild ride, but it's great. It's really good. Yeah. He's gone through some stuff. Uh, carry, yeah, absolutely.

Carrie Fisher, um, was told to lose 10 pounds for the role. She was told, she said that she had to go to fat farm for that. Uh, so that was 19 at the time. That's what she calls it. 10 pounds doesn't feel like a lot, though. What's that in kilograms? I don't know. It's not much, I don't think.

Like five? Four. Four. Something that's not a lot. I don't know why you have to go to a fat farm to lose four kilos. Just like skip a couple of meals and have a big poo. Get rid of a lung. This is three-step plan.

The third step is enjoy. Just like exercise a bit. Yeah. A few salads, exercise, you'll be right. That's it. No carbs. Oh God, don't listen to me. Sorry out there.

What was it? It's a four and a half kilo poo. There we go. That's what you're looking at. That's really not that. much. I'd have to eat a lot to do that, so I don't know whether it'd be counterproductive. Mark Hamill was also brought on board.

He'd done some sitcom stuff and whatever. He was kind of an up-and-coming dude. Fred Ford Coppola was like, don't use unknowns. And the studio was also like, don't use unknowns. He also had a backup cast because he was kind of casting for the group, not so much for the individuals. So he's like, these three work well together. Yeah.

So we had another three whose names I can't remember who were coming. Oh, so it was like, if any of these guys go, we'll get all three. Wow. That's interesting. I think that kind of makes sense. Totally, yeah. Past based on people working well together. I just had to go to London and the desert.

It was a whole thing. It was a whole production, a movie production. London. Oh, yeah. It made a real movie production about it. They really did. Yeah. The only kind of, there was a couple of known actors, what's his name?

The guy plays Tarkin. Oh, the bad guy. Is Tarkin the bad guy? Tarkin's a bad guy? The hat. I don't think he wears a hat. And what about Obi-1? And O'B1 and Alec Guinness from Bridge over the River Quire.

Because he thought it was a real. joke, right? Well, he's kind of, depending on the interview, sometimes he's like, this is the worst thing I've ever done and I hate being remembered for it and I don't want any residual

and other times he's like, yeah, it was great, it had a good time. But he made a shitload of cash from it, didn't me? He made so much cash, yeah. So, yeah, he was easily the biggest

cast member. Use the false look. That's pretty good. Yeah. I looked up Tarkin for you so people don't get angry. Peter Cushing. Thank you.

Right. Push the Cushing. Matt, he's the one that they brought back in a really, unrealistic. I'm like, why the fuck? Watch on that,

because I didn't know that was going to happen. I can't watch this. It's very upset. Which one? Was that in the one I fell asleep in? Oh man, I'm an idiot because I thought,

God, that guy looks similar to that guy. It fooled me. So you were fooled. You lapsed into a coma. I was, I thought, geez, he looks familiar.

Yeah. Oh, really? You're only just realizing now. People had different reactions. Mainly because of, who else? They did Princess Layer at the end. Which was very upsetting.

I noticed that, obviously. because it's her, but young, which is impossible. Yeah, that, that, for me,

was less fucked. Yeah. I felt like that was, okay, it was shorter and I didn't hate that as much, but the, yeah,

the kushling, cushion, the kushman. The kush man. Yeah, his, I'm like, all of a sudden,

I felt like we're in that story part at the beginning of a video game. Right, yeah. You must defeat the evil war on and save the princess.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing, obviously, but I don't. Yeah. I don't like it either.

It's the, is it Uncanny Valley? Uncanny Valley, that's the thing. Yeah, that's why people love R2D to because he's the opposite of that. You guys been with the Uncanny Valley? No. Like if they have a robe... If it looks too... Yeah.

If it's too realistic, it's too close and it's upsetting. But the further you get away from that like R2D to a little garbage bin, it's fun because it doesn't have a human face on it. Yeah. So humans can tell when they see something that's close, but not quite right. It's like a warning signals go off in your head. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.

I know that feeling where you're like, ah... Yeah. And you can't quite point out what's wrong with it. And you're like, that's weird. I don't know why. It's like looking at John Burgess. That's a local baby, John. Who I met once and was lovely.

Very nice. Old host of Wheel of Fortune and Burjo's catchphrase. Correct. I really enjoyed catchphrase. Yeah. I actually felt a little bit like that watching, sorry, watching Looper. You know how Joseph Gordon Levitt. It's got the nose.

Yeah, he's got all the prospects that look like young Bruce Wilson. So I'm like, I know it's. Joseph gone lever, but it also looks a bit like Bruce Lowe's. You didn't need it. I don't think he could have discovered. He broke his nose. Yeah. But like it was amazing.

And like he even sort of copied mannerisms, which makes sense. But I was still like, ah, I don't like it. Yeah. That director's doing the new Star Wars film this year. See, I pay attention to things. You know what's going. Good time, yes. Thank you.

To protect his films, Lucas, he didn't want people to cut anything out of it or whatever. So instead of taking like a large chunk of money, he took a pay cut. and he made them right in a clause where any sequels I get the rights to, they belong to me exclusively, and any merch, the majority of it is mine. Wow, that's so smart. They were like, we don't care because merch makes no money. This movie won't get a sequel, you're an idiot. Oh, that is so good.

That's so good. They did, like, Planet of the Apes Lunchboxes, and there were some TV merch for Lost in Space or whatever, but there was nothing like what Star Wars had that way. So he's a genius, at least, in the way he did business. Yeah. Yeah, and the reason also he did that he went, well, then I can print posters and T-shirts and I can get a bit of hype behind this because they're not going to promote this, so I'm going to do it myself.

Wow, that's cool. He was really ahead of the curve, yeah. He backed himself. He backed himself. The head of the curb. That's right. Yeah. Also, there were no special effects houses to do any of the stuff that he wanted to do.

So in 1975, he founded the Visual Effects Company Industrial Light and Magic, which is known as ILM. It's still around today. They do everything, most things. It's them and wetter. They're like the two ones. The two ones. And the guys from that, they're from commercials and robotics and architecture.

And they do things like the Pillsbury Do Boy, which I don't know. I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know those ads. He's the Doe Boy. Yeah. Advertise this company called Pillsbury. Oh, yeah. Okay. You've painted the picture well, then.

It's very good. Does that ring any bells? Yeah, that does now, yeah. Hi, I'm the Doe boy. Eat some more Pillsbury. That was George. That was George. Doe.

Sorry. Obviously that's implied. Yeah. So the people who he hired came from like that kind of world. And they built like custom micro processors, microprocessors. Microbroboral. Microbrials. Yeah.

Because there were no computers to kind of do this kind of special effects. You know, like all the ships and stop motion. It was before computers, wasn't it? It was. There were computers, but not to the extent of nothing like they needed. So rather than being like a tech genius himself, he just brings people together. Oh, that's really cool. Which makes sense.

A lot of Star Wars. is him getting the right people on board and luck. Like the right time, the right thing happened at the right time, the right level of technological advancement and all that, yeah. That's great. Yeah. One of them was also Joe Johnston,

who came on board. He created Boba Fett. He directed Captain America, Jumangi, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Jurassic Park. You had been, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Yeah, right. That was so small.

So tiny. They were. That was the thing about the movie. Honey. A lot of the main characters were really small for a large part of it. Yes, correct. Yes, yeah.

Did you see Honey, I blew up the baby, the sequel? Yeah, that's your hide baby? I was expecting a different movie. Ten, nine, eight, seven. Plunger. Science. This is all for science. It's another one-minute movie.

Yeah. They did things like to make ships, they took a whole lot of model parts and glued them on and, you know, made these hodge-podge kind of ships, which came out really, turned out really well. Well, anyway, the shooting of the film was a nightmare. The British crew who were working on it thought it was shit. Everyone hated the dialogue. Harrison Ford was famously quoted as saying,

George, you can type this shit, but you can't, sure as hell can't say it. Because they're all like, go to the planet and get the giga thing and then whatever. Like if you read any of the Star Wars dialogue with none of the context, it's a lot of it is nonsense. Yeah, right. Wow. Yeah. So a lot of, you know, that stuff that people like about it, sort of like all real world stuff. Yeah.

And it's believable. The used universe. Used universe, yeah, and so that just happened to accidentally because of budget and... It was budget, and he wanted a world where it didn't look like it was, like it was the future, but it had been the future for a long time. Right. That was the kind of... So good.

Yeah. So it was kind of, it was on purpose. It was on purpose, yeah. Because when he had the technology, it caught up, he'd changed things that pissed a lot of people off. Because the idea was for the free calls as well that, because it was, everything was great in the universe, everything was shiny and new and this is the beacon of hope and whatever. Right. So that's why it was all green screen.

Yeah, it looks like shit. Yeah, he clashed The actors did a lot of goofing around on set Not taking it seriously He clashed with the crew His independent filmmaking tactics were like Let's do it this way And they were like

We're gonna film it traditionally As we do in England Shut up So there was a lot of that Chin chin With cricket bats and tea Yeah, it's probably good I didn't mean to be a rude old chap

But do fuck off They're so polite Yeah they really are He are He hate or George Lucas also hated The costumes The sets And just the production in general

He's like This is not what I envision Wow. So he... Nightmare. But all those things people love. Yeah, in the end. Yeah, he did get lucky in a lot of ways.

He did, he did. But Carrie Fisher also had her breast gaffer taped down. Because in the white dress, when she ran, it was, they were like, we can't have that. So they taped her down. That was a thing that happened. Guys, just get a sports bra. I don't understand it, but that's... Not how they do it in England?

No. Or space. Yeah. They gaffer everything down. And that's fine. But taking it off later. You'd have to put like a... a, like a, like a, something under it.

Yeah. I'm afraid that's also not how they do it in a nickname. T-tow, that makes sense. You just have to get new nipples. That's just how it works over there. Tape on skin. Every time. Every day.

Fresh tape. Fresh tape. Fresh, fresh nipples. I don't like this. Hey, we've got nipples too. I did not need to know that. My nipples correlate with my lungs. I have eight nipples, eight lungs.

Oh, you're a good match for a map then. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Hello. George Lucas also, he's a nice guy, but he's very kind of shy and antisocial. He didn't really talk that much. He lost his voice and nobody noticed for like a couple of days. That's what Carrie Fish said.

And in general, his directions were faster and more intense. That's what he'd say. Every time. Do it again, faster and more intense. Like you just wanted to be like, you didn't want it to be a slow moving kind of drag. You know, like 2001 Space Odyssey, which is held up a sign that said faster and more intense. That's right. Yeah.

It was pretty slow pace, wasn't it? Yeah, if you look at it now it is, but for the time it was like breakneck. Right. Yeah. Especially when you convert to like 2001 Space Odyssey, which is just a lot of shots of nothing. It's a good film, probably. I don't care. Don't email it.

The filming was taking forever. Because things like a fierce sandstorm, because they filmed in the desert, destroyed all the sets. So they had to resume filming two days later. The Fox board, the Universal, 20th century fox were like, This is horrible. What are you doing? And they send notes like, why is the wookie not wearing pants? They're like, we don't understand this.

We don't understand. Such constructive notes. I know, right? Why is the wookie not wearing pants? Yeah. But I like that sentence because they are acknowledging that it's a wookie. Yeah. So they're like, yeah, I know enough to be like, well, that's the wookie, obviously.

But then like they don't understand it and its culture. Yeah. Because he's got a balladeer as well with no pants. Not even cut-offs. The balladeer is... Well, that's ammo. It's ammo, I think. I don't know.

Well, that makes sense. I'm sure there's a whole Wikipedia article on it. A Wikipedia. Wikipedia. Thank you. Very good. Oh, Matt Stewart. Look at it.

No, that's a real thing. It is a real thing. The Star Wars Wikipedia is called Wikipedia. Fuck, that's amazing. Oh, that is upsetting. To say the least. I was proud of you for making a good joke. I was loving your pun work, which you're very famous for.

No. You know what? Your stand-up's made it. Mainly puns? Mainly wookie puns, too. You're a pun comedian. I change. Fucking fuck.

My next festival show has got a pun name, and I'm so full of regret about it. Is it really? Have you answered it yet? Yeah, I haven't heard. It's going to be called, at least for the, in Perth, it's going to be called dry ginger mail. Okay. I love it. Because, because your humor, rather dry.

Yep. You have a ginger beard, and you are a boy. And also... Oh, mail! Wow, I went AIL. I thought there might be some sort of correspondence part of the show. Is it MAL-E? Try ginger mail.

Right, okay, I'm back on board. Like ale. Chosen the right male. Both the M. Yeah, you have. Because otherwise it'll have to be you dressed as a posty. That's true, yeah. Can't have that, can we?

That sounds good. Anyway, so that's one of your regrets It's a problem It's a problem with homo fans Do you guys not love that? I think it's great I love it I know I like it a lot I just also enjoy his regret I did see a lot of regret that

I love it now I know what the title is It'll work written down Yeah sure yeah No I think everybody else got it You're the only one who went AIL Well there's four people here And only one of us didn't get it Okay I mean

Do you understand now? Yeah Okay great James I'll do it Anyway, we went two weeks over schedule and Alan Ladd Jr. The guy had his back was like, we're shutting it down.

Oh no. One more week. Just get it done. And George Lickis was like, I can do it if you give me a couple more weeks, I'll do it for cheaper. And they're like, no, we'll just,

here's the money, just finish it. Like, we've had enough of this shit. So they split into three units to get it done. It was supposed to be released Christmas, 1976, but was pushed back to summer of 1997.

Is Christmas a good, is that a big movie release time? Now it is. Kind of Avatar. kind of and all the rings kind of, yeah, Star Wars is and that boxing day type. Yeah, Lord of the Rings is always

boxing day and that was awesome. And the Hobbit. That went good. Not as good, no. Yeah, because it feels like a weird time to release it. Like people are thinking about other stuff. Yeah, but the thing about... Unless it's the Santa Claus starring Tim Allen,

then I get it. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. But the reason, because there's nothing released around December, so that's why, so you've got a clear run. Right. Because all studios dump their shit films in January. So if you open late December, you've really been in the clear. Yeah.

That's why Avatar made $2 billion, despite being very average. Presti. Yeah. Pastiche. Yeah. So when Lucas was, when they were assembling the film, he didn't like the flow. He would come in and recut it himself. He fired the editor because he didn't like their cut.

He started from scratch. He got some people in, including his wife, to kind of fix it up of it, who make it flow better. And they let the actor's rhythm dictate the cuts instead of being, like, like, okay, we'll cut here, we'll do it. It's like, it was when, does that make sense? I don't know. So it's when they finished talking, I assume. I don't know what he means by that.

But it kind of follows the people more than the scenes, I guess, if, if that makes any sense. But his wife is kind of credited with kind of really saving the film. Because the original edit is not good. Really? Sisters are doing it. Their wife. Oh. Yeah.

Actually, they were sisters. They were brothers and sisters. They were brothers and they got married and that's where you got the idea from. Sorry, Jeff. Of course you're all right. Things at ILM, the special effects place, were not looking good. They'd spent half the budget, but they only done four shots. Oh my God.

And Lucas... And is there eight shots? No, there was way more than eight. Oh. So they had to throw them out because Lucas was like, we cannot use these. So they spent a million dollars on four shots. And they thought they weren't good enough. Out of about $8 million budget.

Yeah, $8 million dollars, and the two of them were on this. So, uh... Shit. So, because they were kind of like all young. The average age of them was like 24. they were kind of like just having a bit of a fun time. And I'm like, yeah, we got money, we got time. And then so he kind of had to kind of go in and crack the whip and be like,

we need to kind of get this done. Shit. The Fox board kept pressuring Alan Ladd Jr. to get it finished. And he was like, listen, it's going to be fine. This is the greatest picture that's ever been made, even though he didn't think so and he hadn't seen it. So he definitely did not believe that. No, he just went, and they shut up.

He went to greatest picture ever made. And they went, okay. Man, this guy's the best. I'm back on Alan Lad. And he got super lucky. Boy did he, yeah But so Lucas then felt He felt sharp pains in his chest

After visiting ILM And he was diagnosed with hypertension and exhaustion He was told to take a break Which he did not There's no time for a break There's no time for a break And they had to do a year's worth Of special effects shots in six months

And to help with the pacing and rhythm George Lucas spliced together Aerial dog fights from old World War II footage Movies And so if you look at those side by side Like the space battles They're like dead on So he's like I want it like this

I wanted to flow like this. Right. That's why they work. Dog fight. So dogs in the war flow planes. Correct. You've never talked about that before. In the early days, yeah.

Well, I thought everyone just knew that. Wow. That's interesting. It's like saying they had guns in World War II. Everyone knows. It's like early spaceships sent up dogs into space. Was that early fighter planes also sent dogs up? That does make sense.

That does make, sorry. You can see the progression, can't you? Yeah. You can't. You can see it. It's a clear timeline, Matt. First I do dogs, then Russians, and then finally... Buzz.

Buzz, Aldrin. Second man on the moon. Is that right? Yeah, and the second non-dog man. On the moon. Obviously, there were many dogs on the moon. Oh, there's lots of them. Lots of dogs.

He went up there to sort it out. You got to sort of these fucking dog problems. Boy, stop pissing on the moon. Have some respect for the moon. Go on. You bloody moon dogs. What did he do? What do you do?

Just put collars on him. Went up with a spray bottle. Hey, oi. Hit him on the nose of the rolled up newspaper. A couple of fines. A lot of those cones. Just whatever running cones. Stop.

Just put colours on him. That'll restore order. And then obviously he shot them. Yes, yeah. All but two. All the early stuff he probably didn't need to do. Straight to the gun. Straight to the gun.

I would have them all of time. Could you shoot a gun on the moon? Could I shoot a gun on the moon? No. I reckon I could. Could a gun be shot on the moon? What would happen? Who's the most science person here?

Dave. I reckon he could be shot at a close range. So he was going right up. It's like shooting underwater? Is that the kind of, do you think it would have a similar? Can you shoot a gun under water, you can't be shot? It's like, you know, people get shot in movies. It's not real.

I think now they've got gun technology that can shoot underwater. Oh, good, excellent. Waterproof guns. Excellent. Wow. They've also have moonproof guns. Yeah, do you shoot it? And then the bullet just goes, whoop, up in a space.

Woo-booh. Boop-poo! Whoop. Yeah, but the guns, the dogs are also probably up in the sky, so it's fine. They just hope that... They're in the air. Oh. No.

If a dog barks in space, can you hear it? If you're that dog, yes. Good. I've been bugging me for ages. Thanks, Jess. She just called you. Ben Burt was in charge of all the sound effects. He did things like

bears and lions and tigers and warisers for Chewbacca. Very good. Not that good. She just got Jess in. That was incredible, yeah. That was so good. Ah! Gertr.

Oh. Is that it? He used to your cow now. He's on face lights up. It's very expressive. Good job. Anyway, so they use lines and bears. Yeah, all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, the idea was to use organic sounds. So even though it was this sci-fi world, it sounded more natural than real. So Chewy isn't just an act of a voice actor. No, no. He said the line, if you see Rawfordage, he's saying the lines on set, and then they dub it over. So the other actors know what he's saying and went to really. act. Is it true that he got to choose

between being Tewy and Darth Vader? That's the, yeah, that's a story, but it kind of varies from person to person. Yeah, I know because David Prouser was Darth Vader, only wanted to be Darth Vader, but I don't know, like, the order of things. And is it true that he thought that he was doing the lines? And then he watched it back. Yes. So actually, the Darth Vader actor, watching it back and then

going, hang on, that's not my voice. Yeah. I'm just down my man in a black suit. No one knows I'm in there. They record. It was a bodybuilder. He trained Chris Reeves for Superman. He was Darth Vader as well, obviously. and so he recorded it all on set and they called him Darth Farmer because he's just this English guy

doing all the lines and they're like, we can't do this so they got James L Jones No, I am your father Yeah, we gotta dub that We definitely have to dub that Was James L Jones big at the time? He was, yeah, it was known

but I think they wanted Orson Wells initially who was very famous But they went, we'll go for a voice that people don't recognize Yeah, God, that makes sense Great voice Such a good voice

Yeah, he had a stutter as well as a kid Simba. Simba. I am displeased. Is that something here you said? That sounds right, yeah. Hello. Is this the farmer, a Darth Palmer?

I am Darth Vader. I am displeased. I am displeased. Hmm. I'm choking you from a far. You know, Bruns to this like, because your voice is probably the only other voice on the planet that's in a similar register. To James also.

Yeah, that's probably true. Me and James. It's like by way of Dutch. Yeah, they've got a bit Swedish chef. Ferdie dirty. Hmm. I feel delirious. Sounds like Welsh Vader.

This is all good stuff. But yeah, like you said, he found it. in the screening. No one told him. There's a long history of David Proules being screwed out of Star Wars royalties. Oh no. But he comes back time and time again. No. Oh, no.

How many did he come back for the original three? He did the original three and then he apparently leaked some, they think he leaked some information. Yeah, leaks some nudes. He thought he was going to come back because Darth Vader's in the last prequel. He was like, well, they're going to bring me back for that, but they didn't bring him back for that. He does conventions. I don't think he doesn't anymore. He's pretty old.

They've got another tall person. Yeah, they got the guy who played him in the... So is that him when he looks like an egg? Is that him? No, that's also not him. Oh, what? That's an actor called Sebastian Stan. When he looks like an egg.

Yeah, when he took his mask off. When I was a kid, I thought that was an alien. I thought it was a blue alien man. Yeah, yeah. But it's just an... He became an egg. He became an egg. Is that like a fan...

Do people think of him in a egg? He was known kind of... Yes, oh yeah. Yeah. But he apparently... He really looked like an egg. He looks so much like an egg. You haven't seen him, yes?

No, I can't think of a half. I know, my God. It's Humpty, numpty. Yeah. I can't remember that. Yeah, it's very absurd. I am an egg. Hmm, I'm displeased, but full of protein.

Now you sound like you're from the Caribbean. I've got protein, man. That's slipping. I am displeased. Nope, still. I am displeased, man. That's what, where my mind was gone. Perfect.

Yeah, because Darth Vader did a lot of that, hmm, let me think. Yeah. I am strangling you from afar. I will make the sound effect. Yes, choke now. You're choking, got you. I am pleased.

That are you okay? So many ways, I'm not okay. James, please do go on with your report. There was a private screening for Lucas's friends, including Brian De Palmer and Stephen Spielberg. Most of the special effects weren't there. There was no music, and everyone said, this is no good, except for Steven Spielberg.

Obviously, it would look shit-house without music. As I said before. Special effects. My favourite part. Yeah. Yeah. But Spielberg was like, This is great, and this is going to be great.

Wow. So he kind of called it. So he brought in on John Williams for the score, who did it with the London Symphony Orchestra. That's why it sounds so good. Exactly. They went with a traditional symphonic score because they wanted to invoke like classic films

of the ear instead of doing like a disco kind of thing. Oh man. Which they could have done. That would have been so cool. Yeah, I know right. Boogie Wonderland! That's it flying through space. Woo!

Put it into hyperdrive. Boogie Wonderland. Saturday Night Fever would have been a different movie if they got John Williamson in the London Symphony Orchestra. imagine he's busting a move to a bit of Beethoven's fifth wait no that on the soundtrack there's a song called a fifth of Beethoven and it is a disco version of Beethoven's fifth you're kidding from that from Saturday Night Fever yeah good

world's clear how did you do that Dave I don't know if I'm just that good Matt laughed so hard at that that that it indicates to me that you are not that good He really enjoyed that. But laugh said, you are the best buddy. He's into it. Oh, dear. The laugh said, he is so self-aware. What do we got here?

Interesting insiders said it was doomed, but there was a small fan-based kind of brewing from all the kind of, the promotional material and the stuff that Lucas has been putting out. A comic book deal was secured with Marvel at the very last minute, which also ended up saving Marvel, because they were... Wow.

Nick Mason might have brought that up in his Marvel episode. We should have if he's any good But uh Look he said some things I don't remember a lot of it Yeah he's like that So it saved them at the time Or decades later

No it's same like in the faults So in the 80s Because yeah Their sales were plummeting But they did all the Marvel comics He did mention that they In the Marvel episode If people haven't heard it

Mesao told us all about Marvel But he did tell us about a bunch of times That they were so close to failing Yes Yeah that they were selling filing cabinets To pay the bills That's right yeah I do remember that yeah

Happen multiple times I remember facts about filing cabinets Yeah that's right I'll stay in my brain forever. And a good thing too. It opened on May 25th to only 42 theatres. The other Fox big release at the time was the other side of midnight, which was a much-anticipated film based on a book.

And this company said, if you want this film, you need to also show Star Wars. Otherwise, you don't get either. Wow. George Lucas went on holiday because he's like, this was the worst thing than I've ever done, and I hate myself. So it didn't think anything would kind of happen,

but it expanded from 42 theaters to 1,700. That is quite an expansion. Is that because it was going well, the 42? Yes, yeah. Because that could, and it played over a year, for over a year. Lines were around the block. There were sold out shows. It was, there was Star Wars Mania, and it ended up making $775 million.

Which was the biggest film of all time. By a long shot. That's incredible. So it was insane. Kenner, just, sorry. I was just, I reckon I've heard maybe still talk about on Steel Wars, how he saw the characters and stuff before the movies came. No, it wouldn't have been him.

He's, maybe, yeah, but he, like, saw characters. Maybe it was he saw the Ewoks or something ahead of time. So they would use, like, comics and books to, like, hop it up. And that's how they've kind of stayed alive this whole time, because there wasn't Star Wars movies for 20 years, but all the kids grew up on the toys and whatnot. So that's kind of how it's kind of stayed in the public. It's very smart.

He's a bloody genius. Oh, but a lot of people hated how he did Ewoks, right? Yes, that was it. Yeah, that was because they're like, it's too kid-friendly or whatever. It's all kid stuff. Except for the wind loss. They're great.

E-Wks are so awesome. Yeah, I think it's people who aged a little bit. They were young for the first one. And by the time the third one came out, they're like, oh, this is so kiddie. It was uncool. But they're like forgetting. People often forget that they've just gotten older. Yeah, people always forget that it's like, nah, you're just, this isn't meant for you anymore.

Yeah. If you watch anything from your childhood, it's all terrible as well. Every show is the worst show. Except for Captain Planet. Captain Planet. It has a good message. Going to take pollution down to zero But he didn't

He never did He never did We've still got it Yeah Good one Kevin, you fucking idiot Wow I'd never realize how much of power Yeah Does that reframe everything in your mind about

Your hero Your special hero captain planet Still the best man to rock a green melon on my TV Well played Well played I can't argue with that No Thank you

And I won't Can't want Can't wouldn't dare No Kenna couldn't Reach couldn't they were doing the toys and they were swamped.

There was none. Like they'd only kind of made a few. So even for the Christmas of that year, they'd made one of each character. This is already too much. There were no toys for Christmas of that year. So instead they sold empty boxes with the Star Wars figures printed on them

and said, this will be ready in March. So they were selling empty boxes to kids. So under the tree, you unwrap it. And then you can like a token, take it in and get a toy later. Yeah, that's exactly. If people are buying those, amazing.

It went, it worked. People, people did it. That's amazing. Throwing boxes around the backyard, making sound effects. Do you guys remember when the Ninja Turtles came out?

Like, he couldn't get one to save yourself. Yeah. You guys might have been too young. Thank you. I was quite an old man when the Ninja Turtles came out. Yeah, Matt's a great, great grandchild,

one or one for Christmas. Do you remember that, Matt? Yes. Good memory, because you're very old. Very old, yeah, but great, real young memory. Maystow has suggested that he might do it

Ninja Turtles episode one time Yeah he probably you could do that Yeah I did like the Ninja Turtles That's why he would Cool story Jess That's really good Yeah thank you

Controversial opinion My brother and I had My brother had these like They were plastic mugs that originally did They were all the colours of the Ninja Turtles And they all had like a sticker on them It was like Donatello Raphael But then the stickers came off

And now they're just like colourful plastic mugs That mum still has at her house Love it. So that's our Milo mugs. You can't have Milo in anything else. Like both of us will still only... So if you want a Milo these days at midnight, you have to drive to your parents' house. I don't have Milo in my house.

Yeah, I'm the same. I can't. Yeah, it would... It just wouldn't last. No. You guys don't have Milo in your house? No. I can't trust myself with a tin of myel.

I can't have anything. Wow, I've got like a kilo tin. I mean, for a long haul. A kilo tin... It would last me two weeks. You love it. I love it. I love it.

I haven't had it in years because it would ruin my life. But it's not that bad for you. You can have a bit. I wouldn't have a bit. I wouldn't have a bit. I'd fill the mug with myelow and then like a thin layer of milk above. And eat it with a spoon. And I just sort of like chip away at it and the bits of float up at the top.

Oh, fuck so good. And then eventually there'll be a threshold. It'll be past and I'll stir the rest in. And it's just a beautiful multi-brew. Wow, I can see that your eyes are like, you've got to go. I've got to go. I haven't thought about Milo in a while. You've never looked more alive.

That was incredible. Oh man. I love Milo. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys want a sad Carrie Fisher story? Yes. Yes, I do.

At a party, at the time, Carrie Fisher was 19. The crew convinced her to get drunk. This is from her book, The Princess Dyrist, which was released relatively recently for her death. So the crew got, she was like, really drink, but she kind of got encouraged and she did. The crew would kind of look like they were going to take advantage of her or kind of take her somewhere else.

Then Harrison Ford steps in and he's like, pardon me. And he tells a crew member that Carrie Fisher needs to get a little bit of air and she doesn't seem to be aware of what she wants. And an argument breaks out and so he takes her outside and puts her in his car and then he starts making out with her. She was 19. He was 33 with two kids married. Harrison Ford, God damn it.

You were doing so well. for a sec there. I thought he was going to come out really well then. For a second, I was like, oh, thank goodness. He saved the day. I think it's going to take it too. Finally. They had an affair during the making of Star Wars and she pined after him.

She wrote poetry. This is from her book. Do you want to read it? I don't have to. I don't know. I can skip it. Wait, no, she published this in her book. She published it.

Yeah. I didn't steal this from her diary. I just want to hear what 19-year-old poetry sounds like. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Sorry. I was about to.

decide a few verses. You got them committed to memory. From your diary. The compromise I made was not an easy thing to do. It's either you or me and I choose you. Although far from a joker, you spoke in rye-ri-ri-riddles. I could have given you so much,

but you wanted so little. I thought you might supply some tenderness I lacked, but out of all things I offered, you took my breath away and now I want it back. Yeah. She wrote this also. She only had one lung. Yes, right.

It was rare. What a schmuck. She wrote this about him in the book. Harrison Ford was a decent, albeit complicated and frequently silent guy. He was always decent to me. As far as I know, he only cheated on me with his wife. He'll be three wives. She thinks that's the only time he cheated potentially.

And maybe he didn't think that I counted because I was so short. And while there's still time for Carrison to grow old together, that's Carrie and Harrison. That gateway is steadily closing. If we're going to get back together, we're going to have to do it soon. So she still kind of held the blue candle. Oh, shit. That was right. That was in the last couple of years.

Yeah, yeah. And she was like, I feel bad about everything. So, you know, if you hate me, like, I already hate myself. Oh, shit. Periodically, she said. So this, it's real sad. I don't know. Sorry for bringing up.

No. A lot of people kind of don't. I thought that's a new thing that I just found out. So. You know, are my weird for thing? It's weirdly sweet. Kind of. No, yeah, no, it's not.

Sorry. No, never mind. Which bit? The poetry. Oh, yeah. The poetry. Just the pining for someone and still holding the candle.

He was a loof and that's how you get him. That's how you get him. Yeah. Perruding. Just like Ryan from the OC. Correct. He was the original Hollywood Bad Boy. Do you know that, Jess?

Matt always brings it back to the OC. It's either the OC or Mr. Sheffield from the nanny. They're my two. You're two goats. Yeah. I've got two other Star Wars films here, but how far are we in? Like, I can stop. Like, we don't have to.

No, we're keen. Okay. This is the epic that the people want. Look, I'm easy. I'll do it. They're shorter. They're not all like. I'm loving it.

This is racing by. Okay. I don't know whether that's insane. I'll push on. Next film was Empire Strikes Back, which he made independently because he owned the rights. And he had enough money to do that now. Yes, he put up $25 million of his own money and

20th Century Fox distributed, but he made it. Wow. So that's Lucasfilm. That's Lucasfilm. That's cool. But he didn't direct, he said. No. So the idea was he didn't want to direct because it nearly killed in the first time,

and he was setting up his company and all that. So he asked his former film teacher, Irvin Kirchner, who initially said no, because he's like, this sequel's a rarely better or good. But the idea was that he said, okay, we'll make it bigger, more complex. And it has to also work so we can then make more movies. And Kirchner also wanted more humor, more heart, and more of a love story. So that was the idea.

So not a rehash. If you've seen it, it's like, I think it's a better film. I would have thought that that's almost consensus, that it goes to, oh sorry, four, then... Four, wait, five, then four, then six. Yeah, that's the general consensus, yeah. Generally.

And it was well worth me slowly figuring that out. I think so, yeah. This film was also a nightmare, but for different reasons. It was filmed in a Scandinavian winter, which was the coldest one in 50 years. It was 20 below and there was 18 feet of snow. At one point they couldn't get outside to film. So they just filmed Mark Hamill from the hotel door

and he just ran around in the snow for a bit because they were like, yeah, this will do. So they couldn't get the camera outside, but they got him out. They're like, oh, while you're out there? Run about for a bit. They also cast Billy D. Williams as Lando, because Lucas copped a bit of flak because there were no black people in the original Star Wars

or if there are their background characters. So they think that was the idea behind that, even though he actually auditioned for Han Solo, actually, originally. Frank Oz created Yoda, the puppet, which you may have talked about in your Muppet episode. Yeah, a little bit. He was based off Stuart Freeborn, who created him and with some Einstein wrinkles,

so he's kind of that kind of combination. Very good. Great impressions today. Very good impressions. Was that actually a walrus? Yes, it was a walrus, yeah. Yoda's voice fire. A walrus, yeah.

A walrus, yeah. A walrus. A walrus. Yes, a special type of walrus. A walrus. They were behind on making this part because they were like, it needs to work. If it doesn't work, you won't believe any of the film. You're right.

So, and Franco was actually dropped the head before shooting and broke it when they were already behind. And speaking of broken, Mark Hamill smashed up his face in a car crash between movies. And so that's why they had him get injured at the start. So the monster like scratches his face. They're like, he looks slightly different because a monster attacked him. But in that ice cave? In the ice cave, that's a cool monster. It's a womper.

A womper. That's a sick name. That's a great name. And that's also why... Onomatopoeic, maybe. Potentially. Womp, womp, womp, womp, womp. Everybody womp.

Sorry. So, Mark Hamel found the performance difficult because a lot of the movie is him acting opposite puppets, which he couldn't hear because the puppeteer was eight feet below with his hand up. Under snow. Under snow. Under snow, yeah. But that's why kind of that works.

So you can't hear anything. No, he had like a radio receiver, but it would only sometimes work, and he'd turn his head. He'd pick up car transmissions and whatever. Yeah. If you watch it back, is he just constantly turning his head slightly?

Yeah. Was he confused? Yeah. There's a lot of that. Harrison Ford had the idea to change the iconic line when he's about to get lowered into carbonite and frozen from, I love you. He was supposed to say,

I love you too, but he says, I know to Carrie Fisher. which seems very kind of reflective of their relationship. Yeah, wow. I know. Bye. George Lucas hated it, but it ended up being very well regarded. The Darth made a twist, where it was, you know, the famous line,

No, I'm your father or whatever. You guys know the twist, right? We've talked about it already in this episode. What? Yes. Nobody knew except Lucas, the director, and Hamel, who was told on the day. The original line that they spoke on set was... Oh, cool, because on the set, that's right.

Because they do it in post, the deep voice. Oh, yeah, okay. So that English guy's like, hello, I am some guy. I'm your daddy. It's like, ooh. Yeah, we'll let it that out. Because at this point, he knows that he's not going to be voicing. He doesn't, yeah, he already knows.

So you're saying all kinds of stuff. Yeah, so he... Every line is fuck you. Fuck you, George. His line was, um, Obi-1 killed your father. And so they pulled up Mark Hamble for and they're like, this is the real line. so act like this, but he's going to say a different thing. And again...

What is his reaction? Is it just, no? Yeah, pretty much, yeah. And David Prowse found out on the day that he saw it again. So he didn't... They didn't tell him. Fuck! Yeah.

Because he'd been accused of leaking information before and it's a whole thing. Ah. Because it was an independently made film, it was still a tight shoot. George Lucas ended up putting him $33 million, which he got back. It wasn't a massive critical hit. Like, it was probably slightly less regarded than the first one, because people are like, this is dark and weird, and it's not fun anymore. And, uh, but...

Even though the, the director wanted to make it more fun film. Yeah, yeah. So over time, people are like, oh no, this is good, but at the time, not... Like, most people liked it, but it wasn't all, uh... I was gonna say, what's a, what's a metaphor for something good? A smash hit. Smash hit. Sunshine and rainbows.

Thank you. It wasn't all, Jess Perkins. It wasn't all bloody Jess Perkins. Sorry, it's a metaphor for something good. Hey? It works well. Wasn't all Jess Perkins, I was. there's a little bit of mutsch stew

oh little bit shit no one wants that nah good on you mannie from a scourg and brooding a little bit Ryan Atwood from the OC The original bad boy The original Hollywood bad boy Yeah so familiar

Or Niles the butler A little bit Niles What cheeky Yeah cheeky and fucking shit up behind the scenes Is that what Niles was doing on the set of it now Well if you call shit up Mrs Babcock Oh

CC Made it up together Yeah, but they weren't making love. You're talking about the actual storyline. Sorry, you know. This is like behind the scenes. No, behind the scenes, the actor wasn't like, you know,

doing something dodgy. He wasn't leaking like your weird... Like prouse. Prouse. Prouse. Prouse, yeah. Lucas, again with this film, he wanted to put the credits at the end of the film

so to preserve the storyline. So it just kind of opens with a bang. If you've seen a star, if you've seen a star, get straight into it. He did in the first film when nobody cared because nobody was paying attention. But when he did it for Empire's strikes back, the directors and

writers guild find him a quarter of a million dollars and try to get it pulled from cinemas. You can't do that, you got to put the credits at the start. And it was like, fuck you. So all other films at the time were doing that. Yes. I hate credits of the star. I know, it's the worst. When you watch old movies now, you're like, fuck this. Especially when it's

just on a pink background or something, and it's just so slow. It's one name at a time. Unless it's cool like James Bond, then it's got like a visual and a song, that's cool. Gold finger Yeah

See, that's great That's good And you've got ladies swimming And then they get shot And then they're naked And then James is there too And he's naked You were there James

I was there I know most of them Yeah A different James man Oh sorry A foolish mistake So Lucas just paid the fines He was like I don't care

And Because he hated all the big business And the Hollywood politics anyway, even though he was becoming one. So he dropped out of the motion picture association in the Writers Guild and the Directors Guild. And around this time also, Alan Ladd Jr. quit, 20th century Fox, who had greenlit

Star Wars because he was like, fat enough of your shit also. So he was kind of forced out, kind of left, which was a shame. Yeah. And that's why Lucas then went to Paramount with Indiana Jones, which was a story he was developing at the time with Philberg.

Last movie, Return of the Jedi. It was originally called Return of the Jedi, and then they said the title was shit. So he changed it to Revenge him. of the Jedi. Because he quit the director's guilt, he couldn't hire Stephen Spielberg who he wanted to,

that was the original idea. He wanted to direct. He wanted Spielberg. Yeah, yeah. That would have been cool. David Lynch also came in to kind of have a look, see, but he looked at the Ewox

and he got a migraine and he left. That's pretty good. Hey, every, as a migraine suffer, I can confirm that we all have different triggers. And for some people, it's looking at Ewox. It's a common one.

Yeah, it's like caffeine, sulphate, It's Ewoks. They're the big three. Top three. Dairy is fourth. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, I get it.

Yeah. It makes sense to me. A little known director, Richard Mark Wondh was brought on board. It was mostly, they say he's kind of director in name only because Lucas kind of did a lot of overseeing. So it's really Lucas's film. So you weren't wrong when you said one and three. Yeah, I did vaguely hear that. No, you didn't.

A piece of shit. No, you're saying that now in hindsight. Because they got, so this guy obviously. wasn't in the guilds either. So I had to go a guild free. I think he was, because he was a foreign director. He was from another country. Has he done anything of note before?

I looked through it and I'd recognize a couple of things, but nothing of note. And he died in like 87, so he didn't, um, the Star Wars curse. Oh, he was the only one affected. Is there, oh. I was about to get my list ready. It's a very short-lived curse. And it takes a few years. Wow.

It'll get you. If you're him specifically. You need to sacrifice one of the directors. Well, get rid of the guy that did shit. Actually, he's too dead now. The other guy. Irvin Kirshner's dead as well. He was old at the time.

But he was very old. He was old. He was, yeah. Because he was probably like 50. Lucas's dad. His film director. Yeah. Harrison Ford had not yet signed onto the film. He was doing one at a time. Everybody else signed on to three at the start, but he was like, no, I'm a big star.

I'll be a big star. So no. So they weren't sure he was going to come back. And when they eventually, that's why he was frozen in carbonite at the end of two. Five. You know what I mean? Yeah. But, um...

I don't, but yes. Yes. The last one, the previous one. So when he did come back, he, he, wanted Harrison Hans Solo to be killed in a sacrifice. So he was like,

we'll get some, add some weight to this film. And a lot of people behind the film, some of the writers were like, yeah, we should do that. Let's not just do all Ewox and fun. Let's kill somebody important. Wow.

They didn't end up doing it. But then they did end up doing it 30 years later, if you've seen the new Star Wars. And if you haven't, spoiler alert. No, but I knew. You know.

But one of the Ewox gets it. Wicked. Wicked cops it in the eye. He does. Oh. Yeah, knife through the body. A stick, knife stick. Yeah.

Sharp and stick. Sharp and stick. Yeah. Which in the Ewok world is a knife. That's correct. That's what they call them. My, um, you know when, uh, like something bad happens? Yes.

Or you're in a bit of pain or something. My dad would always say better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick. Yeah. That was an AWAC. An old AWAC, an old AWAC, used to miss it. Addage. My mom would say better than a, a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. Oh, interesting.

So, there we go. Different strokes. I would rather a burnt stick than a sharp stick, just saying. Is that an apple and east thing? Yeah. Got a lot of sticks out there. Yeah, yeah. I'm from the East, I know.

If the cleaner hasn't dealt with them yet. Yeah, and if he hasn't, he will be fired. With a Pocoda stick out of the door. Yeah. The East got a lot of their bylaws from the... Ewks. I could not remember what Ewoks were called. East Wox.

East Wox. That's, yeah, it was initially. Eastwalks. Yeah, that makes sense. Shortened. Ewox in case that wasn't clear. Yeah. Same number of words.

What we were saying. Nailed it. Thank you. It was filmed under the title Blue Harvest, horror beyond imagination, because people saw Star Wars and they went, oh, that, it's like for a wedding. It's like, well, that will charge you triple

because you're Star Wars. Ah. Like, he made money, but he wasn't like crazy rich like he is, like he is now. So who... That's clever. Who were they telling that was what the film was on?

Just like, so they'd, they'd be like, Like we need to film in this forest, so here's a permit. We're doing a movie called Blue Hearts. Right, but then when Luke Skywalker turns up, people are like, um, what? Yeah. Yeah, so I guess they paid by then. So they were like, gotcha.

That's so smart. Yeah, they can't say, no, oh, no, it's more now. Yeah. Like, hi, can I use your winery for a birthday party? And then we end up getting... It's a fancy dress birthday party. Star Wars theme. Very formal.

One's coming as a bride. The other is Luke Skywalker. We are working. We are working. Oh, you're marrying a real nerd. Yeah, probably would. Probably would, wouldn't he? Oh, buddy.

No, he's she. Would you guys do a themed wedding? No. Yeah, it's not really much. I mean, just... I respect it. I love it. You could simplify that question.

Would you do a wedding? Similar answer, possibly. I don't know, who cares? Ah, that's a Mr. James. You got me. That's me, yeah. That's what they call me. Mr. James adage.

You know it. I don't think there's anything like. I don't know. What do I care? You do that. You didn't do a themed wedding. No, I do a regular, regular wedding. I don't think there's anything I'm passionate enough about to theme my wedding around.

I'm saying about like that with tattoos. I know. Who's getting the tattoo? I'm getting it. Are they picking or are you choosing? No, I got to choose it. If I was going to vote for me, I would have got to pick it. But they chose Jess.

Really? Yeah. We got a real sweet listener base. We got really nice. And everyone was like, well, Jess wants the tattoo. So let's let me get it. What's the tattoo? Have you announced it yet?

Yeah. in the tattoo episode a while ago. It's like a little, it's just going to be small and it's on my wrist and it's just this little symbol. Of Dave's head. Yeah, it's Dave's head.

A symbol of Dave's head. I'm going to get a little Dave on me. And I'm fine with it. You're going to get DW and then in a love heart. It's on my wrist. That would be lovely. I'm not doing that. You won't do that.

But the symbol basically looks like a rewind button. Oh. It's pretty cool. That's good. Is it like, is it all the regrets you have? Yeah, yeah. I want to just take it all back. Get it out of here.

I'm going to be doing it. that soon actually, yeah. Getting it out of here. Getting it out of here. Live streamed? Hopefully. Facebook live? Something.

It's going to be something. There's no point in me getting it and then just like putting up a picture of it later. It's got to be filmed or streamed or something. Anyway. I agree. It's all about content. It certainly is.

We're very content focused here. I can tell you. Yeah. One of the big challenges was Jabba the Hut, which was a puppeteer with like 15 people and it wasn't that many. There was like one on each arm. one in the head. There was radio-controlled eyes. There was a little person in the tail with a stick who got stepped on by Carrie Fisher.

So how many people, how many puppeteers? Five-eight. That means Jabba the hut has ten lungs in him. Ten to sixteen lungs. It's still too many for me. So my quest continues. He looks a bit like a lung gone bad. He does, doesn't it?

Yeah. He should be on a cigarette packet. Just this morning I was watching a clip of our good friend Ben, Russell, who does in his stand-up, he does a bit of Michael Kane playing Jabba the Hut. It's so funny. Is it on YouTube? Yeah. I watched it just this morning in bed and laughed at it.

It's so great. He also has a very successful, maybe the most successful Jembe podcast out there. It's all about Jembe. I was on the first episode. It's a kind of drum, like a bongo. It's all about life, living life in the Jembe. way. Geembe way.

The Gembaway. Okay, gotcha. He went to Gembo way. I'll tune in. Yeah, you should. Should we get him on planet broadcasting? Yeah. I'm saying no.

People have said that the Ewoks were a metaphor for the Vietnam War, like a big kind of in, like a big army comes in and like trying to stompest them out, but then the locals kind of rally together and defeat them or whatever. You get it right. Metaphors. But George Lucas has always been kind of like, no, it's not political, it's just, you know, it's, you know, it's, he says that about his film. He says that about his film. It's just tiny bear men. But there are like direct parallels. Like in a later film,

there's like that line that George Lucas, George Bush says about like, if you're not with me, you're my enemy. So he does do it, but he's not, he's not openly political. More so in his older age,

but yeah. Also, weeks before it was released, it was changed back to return to the Jedi from revenge because revenge is not a Jedi concept, they said. Right.

Oh, I like that. But returning is. Returning is. They will always come back. They are very good at, at bringing back the DVDs that they borrow for Blockbuster.

They will always return, put them in a little return box out the front. They do do that. They will not revenge their DVDs. They never revenge their DVDs. And that's what I like about them. Yeah, they're good people. The opening day took $6.2 million, which was the biggest opening day ever. That's crazy.

Just to wrap it up over... Are you going to wrap it? Absolutely, yeah. The third one, how was that critically... Not as well, but it did really... Like, people still like it. So critically, they dropped down. at the time.

Yeah, I would say so, yeah. The third one kind of dips in the middle. If you've seen, the Ewok stuff is, so it's a bit of a drag. Yeah, it's a solid finish. It's a whole different mini movie inside of it. That's it. And they did actually do two Ewok spin-off movies.

Caravan of Courage. Correct. And the other one. There's two. I saw Caravan of Courage. Yeah, yeah. My ex-girlfriend who loved all the Ewks, especially Wicked.

Yeah, right, yeah. But we watched it, and at, like, at one point, one of the Ewaks was talk. and its teeth sort of just came up. Like, it was clearly a flap. In the movie, like, the movie that went out, it was just sort of like, you could just see their costume sort of flap up.

That's very upsetting. They didn't reshoot it. No. They're pretty low budget. But, yeah. There's some upsetting stuff in those. It was upsetting. Yeah.

Did that ever anything to do with George Lucas? Yeah, yeah, he made those. Well, yeah, he was heavily involved. Oh, dear. And he also made the Christmas special. I was going to get into that. That's a whole thing. There's a Star Wars Christmas special,

which was released in between the first two. and it is a hilarious disaster. Like Mark Hamill and something. Yep. And he just had his accident, so he's got like a layer of orange makeup on him. Harrison Ford looks like he wants to kill himself. Carrie Fisher's high.

I feel like he always looks like he wants to kill himself. Why aren't these more spoken about and like... It's everywhere. Is it called episode something? No, it's called the Star Wars holiday special. It's about going, Chooey. Hans Solo has to get Chui home for Life Day,

which is the Star Wars equivalent of Christmas. You're going to say it's pretty hard to celebrate Christmas and Jesus hasn't been born yet. Yes. There's a lot of, like, there's a cooking segment with an effeminate robot. A C3bio? No, with a guy dressed as a woman robot. I love that.

Guy dressed as a woman. And it's very boring and difficult to watch. Wow, I've never heard of it. You should come back into an episode on that. I'd love to, sure. Let's just watch it. I'm reading between the lines there. You would not like to do that.

You might be wrong. Look, I'll happily talk about all the weird Star Wars spin-offs. stuff because that's also one of the reasons George Lucas was like, I want full control. I'm not giving this out to anybody because you fucked it, basically. Oh, that wasn't his choice. No, he gave it to him and they kind of the TV studio did it. Not good. I thought that he played a key role in it.

No, he was too busy being his own man. Right. Yeah. You got to do you. Yeah. Do you, George. That's right. Speaking of, though, he had plans to make 7, 8, 9 and the prequels and spin-off movies,

which were just about Wookies or droids. And there's been variations on him saying that. Like, originally he was, he, Mark Hamill's, there's an interview from him at the time saying, yeah, George Lucas asked me to come back and be Luke Skywick when I'm like 65, but I'm like, yeah, if you want, I guess. But Mark Hamill was like 24. He's like, this isn't even going to work. So I'm not, you know, sure, yes, which he ended up doing.

I don't even plan on being a life then, George. They were so young. They were, yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. But also, around the time of Return of the Jedi, he went through a divorce, which really, which really hurt him. He also ended up, he adopted a little girl at the same time. So he just stepped away from filmmaking.

He's like, I'm just going to be a dad. So he just stopped. He, like, wrapped it all up. So Return of the Jedi's was supposed to go on. Luke was supposed to have a different sister. It was supposed to be like a whole other thing. But he went, nah, this is it. I'm out.

Yeah, okay. So, yeah. So he just wanted to be a good dad. And he didn't make a film for 20 years, but he did a lot of background stuff in producing. He did Indiana Jones, Willow. You guys familiar with Willow. Yeah, that's a good movie.

He did Howard the Duck, which is a Marvel film. He did The Labyrinth Land Before Time. But he's not directing. It's like what you're saying. It's his production company. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Yeah.

Also, these company created a non-linear audio and digital editing equipment. And in 1985, a division of theirs created the Pixar computer, which was sold and that became Pixar. So that's all spun out of Lucasfilm. And then in 1993 that saw what Jurassic Park was doing, and he's like, I'm going to go back and finish my films. I hated the special effects. So that's why he redid them in 1997 with a whole lot of updated stuff. And if you remember that. Yeah.

People hate it. It's very controversial. It's not controversial. It's not controversial for Star Wars, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a weird thing because people love the star. Yeah, yeah.

The effects. I think there are some good changes, like, but the majority of them. Like, there's a dance number in one of them. Ewoks blink. There's the famous Hahn shot first one, which you may or may not be familiar with. I could explain it, but I don't know. I... Yeah, I know what it is.

And I know that we'll never agree on what the truth is. Wait, what is it? So basically, very quickly, there's a scene in the first Star Wars. He sits down at the bar, Han Solo, and his guy's got a gun on him, and he's going to take him in because he owes somebody money, and Hans Solo shoots him through the table, like unprovoked. But he changed it so they shoot each other at the same time. Or the guy shoots at him first, and then Hans shoots him. He's not a killer. Right.

So he retaliated, so it's a big controversy. And people debate about what it should be, right? And he's copped a lot of flat because he's never released the original footage, the original trilogy. again, like it does not exist. You cannot get it now to this day. Even on, I thought it was on like DVD extras. You can, no. I think it came on one extra from like years ago, but like a high definition

Blu-ray, you can't get it. That's annoying. But fans have kind of made their own versions and released him. So if you want them, you can get them. Which I do. And in 1999, he went back to filmmaking or before that, for his Star Wars prequels, which is a story for another day. I have one fun fact. Yes.

I never know what a fun fact is. I feel like this has gone for way too long. I'm so sorry. No, perfect. People love the long ones. And it always feels, whenever you're doing the report, it always feels shit. Yeah, it feels like you guys are disturbing me, just like wrap it up. Yeah, no, I'm really having a good time. No, I could sit and listen all day.

Okay, good. I don't, nah, not all day. Not all day, obviously, yeah. I need to pee. Yeah. I never know what a fun fact is, because sometimes you guys would be like, that's not a fun fact. Yeah, just decide.

I'll decide. Okay, good. Okay, before the original Star Wars was released, which was originally called Star Wars, it was changed to a new hope. That's another thing. Who cares? But Lucas visited the set of close encounters,

which was an alien film that Spielberg was making at the time. And he was like, this is amazing. This is a proper film. You're making something real. This is going to be the biggest film of all time. So he said to Stephen Spielberg, I'll tell you what, I'll give you 2.5% of Star Wars profits if you give me 2.5% of close encounters. And Spielberg was like, sure, whatever.

But he's a weird deal. Yeah. And Lucas made good on his promise and adjusted for inflation, Spielberg would have made about $40 million. just from that. And from Close Encounters? Star Wars made $774 million and Close Encounters made 304. So he would have made a bit of money.

It was a big movie. I haven't seen that. Yeah. It's good. James? That is a fun fact. That is fun fact. That is fun fact.

Because you know what it is? They're just mates. They are. And that's the thing about Lucas. People give him a lot of flack. But the reason he makes all the toys and the companies and the reason he sold Lucas film to Disney's because these are people he worked for. works with and he considers family

and he's like, if I leave and don't make any films, this all goes away. So he sold it on, he gave it on to Disney, so not only there would be more movies, but people would be protected. Like, he's very... That's great. Interperson. He's giving away so much money. He does seem like a good guy. So no one, people think he's

a bit of shit at making movies. But no one thinks he's a bad guy. Is that right? Yeah. The problem with the prequel is it's just him and he didn't have... There was a lot of yes men. Right. The original Star Wars was a lot of pushback and that's kind of why it works. I can come back and talk about the frequency if you want because that's another train wreck

for a different I'm fascinated by that yeah yeah so the new ones does he have anything to do with anymore so they don't send him scripts or anything he's just out I think he's a consultant or whatever

he sold Lucaswin for like 4.something billion and he's probably got steak in Disney and whatever but he also handed over script treatments for 7 which they threw away and he's kind of a little bit bitter about that but he also wanted to make 7

He was like, I'll make seven, and then you can make eight and nine, and they were like, no, we'll just, we'll do it. That would have been, no, I reckon that would have been a nice thing. Yeah, I think, look, a lot of people saying that he should have come back and done them, but I, I think he's a better, he's great at building worlds. And the reason why Star Wars works is because everything works. Is there a chance that I bring him back for nine, or they already announced who's doing that? No, they've already got, uh, who's doing that one? J.J. Abrams is doing it again. Ah, the other guy got fired.

So people get getting fired on these things. Even just like to come on more hands-on roll without having... He said this difficult because he... Hands-on-roll. Very. That's a fun fact. Am I doing that right? No. Yes.

But yeah, he's very kind of protective and it's kind of like, it's my way or not. And he knows that. So he's like, I'd just rather not know. Yeah. Yeah. And he's criticised the new ones because they're like, they're a bit derivative. At least with the prequels, he'd try something new. Which he did, but they're tough.

They're a tough watch. some people love them haven't seen them I reckon since they were at the movies and the first one came out when I was nine and I loved it and I had a Darth Mall hat

yeah it's the kind of people forget again because people weren't a few years older now now they were you know 20 years older and had really rose-colored glasses a lot of kids like love those films

yeah totally and people who grew up with them love them which is what they were built for yeah that's right yeah at my school they were huge people don't like it because he's come out multiple times and mean like these films are for kids

and like 40 year old men are like how dare you Like, there's a lot of that. But Star Wars, I've said this before. It's for everybody. That's who it's for. It's not for 40-year-old man. It's for literally everybody.

Yeah. It's a lesson in that. That's beautiful. Yeah. There's a lesson. There is. You're right. I knew you used to be a teacher, but you're still teaching a few lessons today.

I still like to throw one down every night. God, that's why he's so engaging. Thank you. That was great. Thank you for that. That was awesome. Thank you, Mr. Suntlete, movies. One very last thing.

I'm sorry. If you want to need more about this, there's a great documentary called Empire of Dreams, which is all about the making of the original trilogy. It's on YouTube, and there's a book called How Star Wars Conquered the Universe, which goes into more of George Lucas's personal life. You're both very good. Empire of Dreams is a great doco title. It's a great doco title.

That's so good. I thought Jess was going to say she'd seen it. It's a great docco. Title. That I will not watch. I've watched the title. I've read it. I've read the title. I've heard the title. I've heard it and I approve it. That's great. Thank you.

Thanks so much, Mr James. Thank you so much. Before we go, we've got one last thing that we like to do. And that is to thank everyone that listens to the show, first of all. You guys make the show. Thanks, everyone. That includes you, James. Yeah, I'm a big fan.

90% thank you to you. I've got to get the rest of you guys on as well for the weekly plan. Get them on. These guys are massive nerds. Jess, what are you going to talk about? I'm going to talk about... Empire of Dreams. Yeah, a docker that I watched.

Yeah. And I'll talk about diagnosis murder. Perfect. And I'm really keen to come back on it and talk about Mr. Sheffield and also the original Hollywood bad boy, Ryan Atwood. Yeah, how much OC news do you guys report on? We touch on it. We dabble, but yeah, it's been a bit quiet lately.

I'm waiting for the reboot. It's coming back, I'm sure of it. Yeah. It almost definitely will, yeah. I reckon it'll be a prequel. You reckon? In the genuine badboard days, when he was in Chino, stealing cars, only because his brother was in a tight spot.

May, Trey. Yeah, Trey. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. James. But I'll still get the original actor to play a 10 year younger, even though he's 10 years older than he wasn't. Even that guy's like 38 or whatever he is. Yeah, he was old at the time.

He was old at the time. They're all old at the time, aren't there? They always are. Dawson's Creek, that blew my mind. And I'm like, these guys are like 47. They made that show. Joshua Jackson. Jesus.

What are we doing? We'd like to thank the listeners. We also like to think everyone that supports the show via Patreon. Patreon.com slash do go on pod. If you love the show, want to chip in a little bit. You can do that and you get some rewards in exchange, including bonus episodes. We're going to record this month's bonus episode very, very soon.

Which will already be out, I'd say. They'll be already out by the time you hear this, so disregard. What a steal, though. What a bargain, bonus episodes. We don't do that. Yeah, that's right. Every month, we've done... Yet another reason we're better than the week we find out.

The list is up to one. There, I said it. I'm the bad boy of the podcast. I say what I think There's no doubt about that Really? Yeah, I would have said that definitely right Are you going at the door?

I know, he sits so far away I don't even realise I'm doing it He just slowly moves further and further back Our mic arms can be extended about a metre and a half So I slide way back out He takes advantage of that All right, let's do it We'd like to thank also some people by name

That support the show by the centre James, maybe if you can help us out with this, we normally have some sort of a game or something. Not a game, that's not at all true. But we normally give people something. Let's give them a Star Warsy. Yeah, can you maybe give them which Star Wars universe character each name is most like? Oh, Jesus. I'm not okay.

You're okay. There's no right answer. Remembering that a couple of weeks ago, we were doing Roll-Dahl titles. Yes. And Dave came up with... What was it? Toby Johnson. No, there wasn't Toby Johnson.

Who was it? Toby, someone. And the amazing Uncle Toby's Musley's arm. Huh? Huh? Hang on, you can't judge because you said Jess Perkins and the... The giant... The Dachsh.

Yeah, mine wasn't even a thing. So there's certainly no pressure. Okay, good. Was it Dache? Because that's also like another name for ISIS. Is it? Yeah, they call them Dachsh. Okay, so there's no bar here.

That's what I'm getting from this. So you can just name, probably Star Wars characters that none of us have ever heard of. This one sounds like a Star Wars character, Donna Badell. Donna Biddle. From San Diego. San Diego, a Wales vagina. I said before the show I wasn't going to say it, but Jess has stepped up, but I appreciate it. I will always talk about a Wales vagina.

Oh, God. So Donna? Donna. I'm sorry. You know, I'll feel this. Donner is definitely, to me, she's got Jabba the Hut written all over. Do you think? Yes.

Donna the Hut. Don of the Hut. Donna of the Hut. Okay. I'll get the feel of this. Well, it's either her. That's if she's a bad guy. If she's a good guy, she would have been...

Jar Jar Jha Bing's. Oh man, she has not done well. No. What are you mean? I love Jajabee. He did. He was meant to be the worst character of all time, I thought. That's what they say.

Yeah. The other one is Jason Feaster. Feaster. That's Jabba the Heart. That's a Jabba the Heart. Feaster. There you go. Everyone can be The Hust.

Oh yeah, that went. Astala Feaster. Oh, that's the wrong movie. Where's Jason from? South Carolina. Very cool. That's really close to North Carolina, which is where Michael Jordan got his shorts.

Played the college basketball. Great fact. Yeah, it's good. I hate you. You add to it every time. Thank you, Jason the Hurt. I would like to thank from Yellowknife

Amazing town or city name In Canada Cole Bouchard Oh that's great I reckon he's the bounty hunter What's the Bounty Hunter? I was thinking the same thing

Boba Fett Boeufet Boehard Fett Bouchard Fett I think we've got to go back to your second guy That felt That felt

Underwhelming giving him the hut The hut again Feister Feister Feaster Feister Who's the guy with the cloak who speaks like

The emperor? Yeah, I reckon he's the emperor. Yeah, for Easter. Yeah, he's done well there. I'm glad we went back. He's got two to choose from. Cole Bouchard, Yellowknife, Canada. Thank you so much for listening.

And also, this one's from Low Borough, Lestershire. There's a character called Lobot. There you go. Lowbot, aka, we don't need to say this. Everyone knows him as Lobot. Sam Henson. Sam Henson's Lobot. Also, Henson's got that.

The Yoda. I was going to say, yeah, it could have been Yoda. It's all connected. They're friends. They're definitely friends. It's all rainbow connected. I would also, may I, may I go? I would like to thank some people.

I would like to thank Derek Brigham from Knoxville, Tennessee. Of course, Derek is a famous character in Star Wars. Yes, correct, yeah. Derek, R2 Derek. Is that him? That's good, yeah. R2 Derek. Is the guy that plays Ardu D2?

Yeah, dead, yes. Was that the question? Oh, no, I'm thinking of... Anthony Daniels, the guy plays the gold guy. No, you're thinking of the guy plays Wicked. The one that was in the TV show, Derek. Oh, that's Wicitt. Yeah, that's Warrick Davis.

Warwick Davis. He's also Willow. He's also Willow. And what is he in Star Wars? He's something. He's Wicked, the Ewok. Oh, he's in EWalk. Sorry, I thought he was in it.

No, that's Kenny Baker, isn't it? Kenny Baker was supposed to be Wicked, but he got sick. Oh, I'm so sorry. Anyway, Derek, I love your work. Saved it Oh man he tied that back together So nice What a neat little bow

Where's Derek from again Knoxville, Tennessee Oh home of the Whigsphere Oh the Sunsphere For the 1986 world sphere It's full of wigs It's kind of like Earth's own death star The Wigsphere

It is Yeah And whoever They built into one small defect into it Or the wigs The wigs And if you take out the wigs It explodes

I got a tweet from someone who was driving through and took a photo of the Whigsphere and sent a photo of it. I loved it. And Jess, someone else? And I would also like to thank someone and we know quite well from sale, but we met him in Stratford.

It's Kieran Donoghue. Kieran, are there any accountants in Star Wars? I know Kieran, I met Kieran. Yeah, because Kieran was a part of broadcasting and he's come to our live shows. He's a great dude. What a gentleman with a boring job.

Gentlemen, yeah. And look, I forgive him for it, But at the same time, I'd die. Yeah. Why would you? No, yeah. He's obviously evil. Maybe is he Darth Vader?

Yeah. Darth Vader. Yep. He's basically a count. Right? Yeah. He crunches numbers, crunches next. That's all.

That's right. Darth Kieran. As long as he's crunching. Darth Kieran. It would have been a very different movie. It's just not terrible. You know, there's a lot of Darth. What does Darth mean?

It just mean you're an evil Jedi. It's like a title. Like Mr. Or madame. It's like evil general sort of thing. Is that kind of what it is? It's like a Sith title, yeah. I'm such a fucking nerd.

I hate myself. I love you. Love yourself. That's a big reason why we have you here, because you hate yourself like we hate ourselves. And it feels right. Could I thank some people? Sure.

I'd love to thank Tyson Rand. He's from Victoria in Canada, B.C. But we're in Victoria. In Australia, mind-blown. Wow. What's the name? Tyson Rand Rand

Rand Rand Randow Calrissian No wish we'd finished on that one Matt's got Sally another person

disappointing Tyson Rand yeah Randow Calerzian brilliant and he's the girl of the mustache He's got the mustache He's in the cloud land

He's got in Cloud City And he's sort of like He betrays him He got accosted by children In real life A betraying Hansoll Broke my heart. I remember breaking my heart.

Undistress. And what was he going to do? He was a real good guy generally and then... He was a good guy at heart, but the empire got there first. He only had to do it because he had the gun to his head, so to speak. Correct. Who shot first? Not Lando. Wasn't even there. Well, that answers that long question.

Long question. Who shot first? Actually quite a short question. I'd also like to thank from Brighton Sussex, Steve Hanmar, which we've talked about before. In a previous life, he was the hammer of justice. Hanma Solo? Hanma Solo, yes, of course. I got into it in the end. We did it. We did it.

It was hard. I know you're not a fan, Jess. Of the puns? No, that isn't. I love pun. That was great. It's difficult. Nah, it's good stuff.

Yeah, I wasn't setting that up as a pun thing. You took it to Pun Town, which is a place. Population. Where there are puns. It's a beautiful, beautiful place. Now, James, we can, of course, listen to your dulcet turns every single week on the weekly planet with our good friend Nick Mason. Correct, yes. The fifth beetle of the show.

Comes out Mondays. Comes out Mondays. I also have a YouTube channel called Mr. Sunday movies. We're going to start filming the podcast hopefully soon. I'll say that out loud, so then I have to do it. I'll assume that you've got a lot of Star Wars themed YouTube videos that people can deval. There are so many, and they're too in depth for most people listening. But yeah, no.

But if people have searched this out because they want Star Wars podcast, they've been. probably want Star Wars content, so there you go. It's a lot of me just making fun of Star Wars. I did a great... I did a great time being on your show. You did? I was going to say, I did it. I did a great show.

I did a great one. It's on my fridge. What topic did we do again? We did. We did, yeah, that's right. That's great. I think we talked about the Ninja Turtles probably. We did because it cost over the Daredevil with the whole bloody thing.

Wow. Yeah. It still blows my mind. And the Simpsons we talked about. We did. That was a lot of fun. So people should listen to that. It's a good one to start on, yeah.

makes makes me feel good to know that it wasn't a waste of my time. It was, but yeah. That was a lot of things of fun and all the other

kind of broadcasting podcasts. You've had a few guests on there for. We're getting to everybody. That's the plan. So good. We're getting around. Yeah.

Except for, um... Yeah, can't have knocks. You guys know, right? You get it. Yeah, we know.

Oh, we know. He's banned. It's bad news. He was, if Ryan, that was the original bad boy of Hollywood. Knox was number two. Just got beaten.

Skin of his tea. Hugely inspired by, of course. They're both brooding bad boys with eyes that just make you melt. I feel uncomfortable. When Knox is looking into your eyes? Yeah, me too. We all do. Adam Knox, of course, is from the Filthy Casuals podcast

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It's like a... It's not news. It's informative. It's a loose. informative chat on a topic generally not a current I was going to say current event it's not that no I can't

yeah it's impossible that's really and just like that the simple simply the best description we've ever had of this show it's not news and it's not current but it's yeah

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