Two In The Think Tank - 111 - Unsolved Christmastime Mysteries

Episode Date: December 6, 2017

It's a mystery episode! This year's Christmas Special was recorded live in Brisbane. Matt takes us through five mysteries that occured around Christmas - mysteries surrounding suicide, murder, missing... persons and fruitcake! It gets dark at times... but we try and laugh through it!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Twitter: @DoGoOnPod Instagram: @DoGoOnPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/ Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comReferences/Further Reading:https://listverse.com/2014/12/22/10-unsolved-christmastime-mysteries/https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-creepy-unsolved-mysteries-that-happened-around-christmastime/https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/12/05/unsettling-tales-of-the-unknown-dead/25553f3d-208b-43e5-84a1-176b304996aa/?utm_term=.e61fb88c1f44http://www.ospreyobserver.com/2008/08/valrico-family-relieved-with-case-closed/http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/John_Feigahttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/fruitcake-101-a-concise-cultural-history-of-this-loved-and-loathed-loaf-26428035/https://www.visitcos.com/map-area-communities/manitou-springs/manitou-springs-festivals-events/fruitcake-toss/https://www.britannica.com/demystified/is-spontaneous-human-combustion-realhttp://anomalyinfo.com/Stories/1885-december-mrs-patrick-rooneys-fiery-death Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. Are you working way too hard for way too little?
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Starting point is 00:00:57 Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hey everyone, it's Matt from the DoGon podcast. The podcast you're listening to right now. I'm just dropping in early this week's episode was a live one from Brisbane. It was the Christmas episode. I should also give you a quick warning.
Starting point is 00:01:32 This episode does tackle some darker things, like suicide and murder. And if you're not feeling in the mood for that to hear three idiots talk about that, maybe skip this one for now, but I mean it's not really all that different to a lot of the other fucked up things we've talked about in the past. It, but it's just a bit of a roller coaster, I guess. Also, we love doing these love episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And Dave's, Dave has posted a poll just to see if anyone in other towns or cities around Australia and overseas would be keen for us to come. So if you're interested in that, get on there and tick your home town or a place that you could get to if you would come and see a show there and it'll help us figure out where we go next because we really do love traveling around and doing these shows. So yeah, if you're keen, get on to our Twitter at dogoonpodon-pod, Facebook slash, do-go-on-pod, or Instagram at do-go-on-pod, and check out that poll. Anyway, on with the show, talk to you at the end a bit about some Patreon love. See you soon. Thank you, Eric. Hello, Brisbane. Welcome down to the annual Dugo on Krishmish Special. How you doing? Thank you so much for coming out. My name is Dave Wonghins. Not just me
Starting point is 00:03:03 here tonight. Could you please give a big welcome to the red bearded center himself. It's mature This is gonna sound really joined on stage by Mrs. Claus just It is only the second day of December. We may have gone a bit early with the Christmas but we are filling the Christmasy vibe in here. Does anybody else hate it every time Dave says Christmas? Well, get used to it because this is the Christmas special. I should have brought a little bell. I could ring every time he said it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Chris mew, ding! Dave does this thing on the line, oh okay great, he doesn't sit down until he really trusts the audience, so. You guys got it quick. I really trust some of you. Point out the ones you don't, yeah. I agree. I'm only because you got a red light on your face, you look't. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I'm only because you got a red light on your face, you look a bit like the devil. And you're going to have to work real hard to prove it otherwise. Or not. Okay, yeah, all right. Well played. The other thing we should mention is this episode is actually brought to you by the web series GAMEY GAMEY GAME.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. That's a true, that's the fact. So I'm going, yeah, I've heard of it. Well, I'm not a fan. Well, I know of it. If you have a watch... If you have things you've heard of, then you're in for a real treat today. Okay, say something that he might have heard of, Jess.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Vegemite. Sorry Tim. Have not heard of Jess. Vegamite. Sorry Tim. Have not heard of it, you might. Yeah, he's pretty excited about that. He fucking got us. Ah, this is gonna be fun. Hey, just by round of applause, who do you guys like the most doing the report? Is it me?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Okay. No, no, no, the hesitation was going to be me. I like the most doing the report. Is it me? Okay? No, no, no, the hesitation was you. Okay, is it Jess? Or is it Dave? I've heard of him. I got up. You are him. I get it. Little twist there. Little twist which made it funny.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Oh it's fun! So I'm staying with my sister who lives in Brisbane, right? Obviously that would be weird otherwise, but... It's a long commute from Melbourne. She's very supportive. So the first, you know, I checked in or whatever you do when you're at a friend's house. I don't think you check in at a family's house. I think you just saw me. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health.
Starting point is 00:05:47 You're a right system. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health.
Starting point is 00:05:55 You're a right system now that you're in a mental health health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're a right system now that you're in a mental health. You're The first thing she asked me, she goes, oh, who's doing the report on this episode? And I said, oh, it's me actually. And she says, ah, I really like Dave's reports. Thank you very much. Yeah. We all like Dave's reports. But we have to suffer through Matt's. Sorry about that. It's my report this week.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Should we get cracking on the show? OK, so we always do this in a live show. Can we have a big round of reports if you have ever heard the do-go-on podcast before? Woo! Or if you've heard of it Go-go-go. I've had a round of applause. We met a father out there. Let's go to made a dad It's always good to make a dad Give me a round of applause if you are a dad
Starting point is 00:06:41 Love them. Give me a round of applause if you are a dead. Yeah. Oh, why would you say that like, yeah. Yeah. Yes, he gets a beautiful thing. But give me a round of applause if you've never heard the show before. No shame, no shame. Right up, right up.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Awesome. Do you want to, sorry, I interrupt you there. Do you want to, are you trying to segue into explaining the show for the people who haven't heard it before? Explain to you, okay. The people that haven't heard the show before. What it is. It. And it is very hard to explain as we found over the last 110 weeks.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So what happens is one of us, oh god, I've already fucked it. It's given a topic to report on, usually nominated by a listener of the show. And this week it is Matt's turn to report on a Christmas topic that Jess and I don't know what it's going to be. Despite the fact that I'm staying with Matt's sister as well, thank you very much. And he's been giving me little clues over the last sort of 24 hours of what the episode is and I still have no idea so I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm not excited. No, I got him again! Hey! Woo!
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm sorry, I've had half a side of it. They gave me another one, we're in a lot of trouble today guys. So the question is... Oh, he's standing! Yeah, I was feeling uncomfortable. All right, teach. What are you blowing our minds? Are you gonna wrap some Shakespeare at us?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Let me turn the chair backwards Mad mad you're so cool Yeah, I'm starting to believe it myself Took a while, but yeah, I do believe. All right, here's the question. I've just come up with it. And the topic is weird, all right. So here's the question.
Starting point is 00:08:35 This week's subject was put up to the vote by Patreon listeners. What one do you think they chose? Okay, so three options. Okay. Option number one, silent night, the World War One Christmas truce of 1914. Oh, that's very cool. Is it ice-land? No, you took your head.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You don't want that one. You don't want that one. Did anyone in here vote on this? Yep. Yep, few people. Okay. Tim. Well, seeing as it was nearly everyone voted for one topic
Starting point is 00:09:05 I reckon you'd probably be happy with this hopefully or was it number two Iceland's Yule Lads Who are like cool Icelandic centers? Yeah, I could I got that from Yule Lads. Yeah, right. Yeah, I like that so far. Or is it C or 3 depending on the system I've been using? I like that so far. Or is it C or 3, depending on the system I've been using? It is as appropriate. Is it unsolved Christmas mysteries? Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Alright. Let me be... Dave? I think we're going to need a moment to try and figure this one out. Anyone in the crowd? What did you vote for, sir? I don't say. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:09:46 You were. You were. But we also. OK. You may be disappointed. You can stay, but just don't laugh the rest of the show. You don't get to do that. I'm so naive.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I really thought I was going to be silent night. But silent night didn't get a voter or maybe you got one vote It could maybe they knew I'd sing They're like no anyway no one voted for that Well a big fuck you to the Anzac's is it? shame shame You like It's very good. It's only argument and it's a good argument
Starting point is 00:10:28 You laugh Okay, I think it's unsolved mysteries. It is unsolved Christmas mystery So I've gone through they gave me an article or I call it an article others would call it a listicle And I've I've selected some of those and I found some of my own. And I've come up with five unsolved Christmas mysteries to take us through. Sorry, I need to stop you there. It's actually unsolved, Christmas,
Starting point is 00:10:54 sorry. It is very fun to start. I've actually got a little speech impediment where I say Christmas. It's embarrassing and it has caused me a lot of bullying over the years. But how do you say mystery? Oh, I say mystery. Okay, go.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's just mystery. You can't do it. I can't do it. I have to go 100 or not or not. This topic was suggested by Jackie Bonnefin. Oh, yep. Jackie, you hear tonight. No, Jackie's from Melbourne. I'm pretty sure. Jackie, have you driven here tonight? It's a 315 the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Everything you've said is fucking dumb. Well, maybe Jackie is on her way and she's gonna be very disappointed. You're just such a shoman, you know? And tonight we're playing for! How do you want me to do this? So they've all kind of got a heading. Do you want me to get into it? Because the headings always give away what it is. Oh, okay. So maybe I just won't read out the things.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Okay, maybe just redact any words that will give it away. Why don't you drop in the word redact? Alright, alright. This first one's called the Pleasant Valley Memorial, something, something, something. So far, I don't have any ideas. One of those words I redacted was mystery. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Probably could have left that in. Yep. Let me take you back to December the 16th, 1996. So they're all Christmas time mysteries. Oh, yeah. Okay. So that was going to need an extra explanation. Now, what time of year is this? Christmas. Christmas. I had a tea to the end. We're at the Pleasant Valley Memorial Park from the title of this story, a cemetery in Anandale, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:12:47 In the darkness of the early morning, a red-headed woman around 60 years of age sets up a miniature Christmas tree decorated with gold balls. Does she die her hair? Yes. Good, good. That's the mystery solved. Good. Namatoo. Next to the tree,. All right, go. Now, come on, too. Next to the tree, she laid down a plastic sheet on the ground.
Starting point is 00:13:09 She was wearing a blood-hooded jacket. That is probably a weird auto-correct. Blood-hooded jacket. I think that's what I'm going to say, blue-hooded jacket. That's a little. That's really different. That is very different. She was wearing a blue-hooded jacket over a blue jumper
Starting point is 00:13:25 and blue trousers. OK. So were you wearing a blue jacket over some blood trousers? Yeah. Yeah, this is a confusing system. She also wore a gold watch in a 14-karat gold ring and had a small backpack or satchel. But which one?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Or a knapsack. Well, the article said knapsack, but I really wanted to make sure I was changing some words. Um. Yeah, you might think we'd copy and paste this shit. We do know. We do know. I really should shout out to the Washington Post, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I have changed most of the words slightly. She sat down, I mean I changed blue to bloody. She's wearing a bloody hood of jacket. Yeah, I want to get here bloody hood of jacket. Alright, settle down. She sat down on the plastic sheet and drank a flask of brandy. She had a cassette player with her, with the headphones over her ears. She listened to her tape of Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner's classic
Starting point is 00:14:33 2,000 year old man comedy routine. Okay. Which I watched today. Yep. Is it a classic? I mean, it's definitely a classic. I don't think comedy travels that well. Over 2,000 years. Mel Brooks is very fun. classic I don't think comedy travels that well over two thousand years
Starting point is 00:14:47 uh Melvaux is very funny it's a very funny man a couple of legacies of comedy mean no disrespect all right so she's listening to this comedy routine right then you can set on cassette this is not a non-excit so 90s I could hear some of you have not been listening at any of the story. Just waiting for a year. A good year. Why are we talking about it? It makes me so happy. Like, oh.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yes, she is very sad. Yeah. It's so nice to see her feel happiness every now and then. Because God, she's a sad woman. Do you feel one? So she's listening to this comedy routine right? Right. What a weird setup. Does anyone?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Anyway, in a cemetery. So it almost immediately gets sadder. Then she pulled out a gun, a plastic bag, and a roll of masking tape. She put the bag over her head and taped it down around her neck. Alrighty. Keep it at light. I don't know if I think this routine's very funny.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So I'm doing Mel Brooks word for word. She then put the tape back in her backpack, or satchel, or an app sack, if you're going to be accurate to the story. And we do. Lay down and suffocate it to death with Brooks and Rhiners comedy playing in her ears. Do these topics go from light number one and the fifth ones to the darkest? Yeah, they do it. They get increasingly darker. It's gonna be a nice switch.
Starting point is 00:16:27 They order around before. The one that I had started off before, I'm like, too fucked, I'll leave that for later. LAUGHTER It's nice that we have some very young gentlemen here in the audience in the front row. Perfect. I mean, young gentlemen need to hear the truth.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Oh, fuck. We're great boys! This, hey guys, this is the truth. Go home and spread these words. This is life. So we're all just heading towards death. And it will come eventually. You realise that when you're older. But one day we halted out.
Starting point is 00:17:06 To be honest, this is probably not the standard way to go out. But... If I may... Do you think Mel Brooks knows this? I reckon he... Oh, I do fucks. Imagine finding out that somebody had been listening to us. Oh boy... You did this to us. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You did this to us! Oh, you did this? Obviously, trigger warning. Fuck, this is not the worst one. Great, alright. Well, everyone's getting the right heads base for it, because it's going to get dark. So that all happened early in the darkness of the morning, right?
Starting point is 00:17:48 She was found by cemetery workers around 9am, and they called police, and they nearly immediately came. Richard Perez and Mike Headley arrived within an hour, and her body was still warm. There was nothing. Yeah, that was right. Would you have preferred a cold body? I just really not to know that note. There was nothing yeah, that was right would you prefer to call money? I just really not to know that note. I don't want to know the temperature of the body
Starting point is 00:18:17 There was nothing in her pockets to identify her all they found was a note with two crisp fifty dollar bills The note said deceased by own hand prefer no autopsy Please order cremation with funds provided. Thank you, Jane Doe. Well, I think we know her name now. Why is this a mystery? Solved, done. The case has frustrated Perez ever since. This is a quote from him. He said, if she's a drifter, she's the best kept drifter I've ever seen. People were saying she's probably a drifter. Right. He's like, with the gold watch and the ring, with the dimonties and the caroties or whatever, whatever they do in those things. So, no, Perez said, must I name her, Perez? That can't be right. Probably Perez. Perez. I prefer Perez.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Cillables are very confusing. Anyway, let's just have a quick poll. Yesterday. Oh, he's up. We were. Welcome to the lecture with Dave Markey. Yes, Dave. We were just sitting around the, talking around the five of us.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Oh, fuck off. The topic of sharks came up. I gave out one of my classic trademark facts about sharks. They have no bones. But instead, they have something else. Does anyone have a guess what they have instead? Yes, yes. A reserved cat.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Cat-leg. Cat-leg. Cat-leg, dries. No, I believe it is pronounced cat-leg. Cat-leg. And we laugh and we laugh. Who's with me on anyone with cart, anyone? I mean this. No.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Cartilage or cartilage? Yeah. Fuck off, Dave. The better thing about that is he really believed he was about to get 120 people. Mainly because when we googled it, it said that I was right. Yeah, what's the point? What's the point? Look, you're not wrong. If you take this away from me, you take the way everything I had.
Starting point is 00:20:18 But to be fair, which is not all right. No, I don't pity him, he doesn't deserve it. To be fair, any conversation that occurs between the three of us could be argued with what's the point. So it's about standard, yeah. We fought over Cartelage for a bit and then... Cartelage. It's adorable.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You nailed it with that pronunciation. It's so cute. How wrong you are. Anyway, Perez. Perez. That's not right, is it? Perez. Perez, yeah, great. What do you fit? What's comfortable? Perez. Perez. That's not right, is it? Perez.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Perez, yeah, great. What's comfortable? Perez. Okay. Perez, it is. Perez said, if she's a Drifter, she's the best-kept Drifter I've ever seen. Yeah, we have that one, Mark. I'm re-capping.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Anyone just walk in? All right. And the side of her suicide, Pleasant Valley, was unlikely to be known by a drifter. Pleasant Valley, too. It doesn't seem very pleasant. Does it? At this stage? No. What do you mean she doesn't know?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Drifters just physically can't. They can't know of it. It's got a little like an invisibility cloak over it. Right. You put on your rich man glasses and then you can see Yeah, yes Dave She had a scar on her stomach which may have been from a C section and she died in the section of the cemetery where infants are buried So there was some theory that for fuck's sake
Starting point is 00:21:42 Matt, for fuck's sake. Is this the Christmas episode? I mean, to be fair, the people who voted for mysteries kind of did this to us, but... You're boys! You're boys! I agree. The U-boys. I mean, that's not what it's even called. You're lads, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's disappointing. Yeah, no, I didn't like reading that I didn't even realize, but yeah, that's not what it's even called. You're lads, mate. This is disappointing. Yeah, no, I didn't like reading that, I didn't even realize, but yeah, that is fucked. But anyway. So there are theories that she was potentially mourning a loss. No, everyone picked up on that. Yes. That's why every person went, oh, and you did that to us.
Starting point is 00:22:23 But discounting that was that the section she was in were all very new infant graves and her scar dated back a lot further. Still getting groans. Still not helpful. Oh, fuck. How's everyone feeling out there just checking in? I don't know if I'm helping or making it worse. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Well, I'd say you're definitely making it worse. I don't know. Well, I'd say you're definitely making it worse. For you or for them? For me. Ah, I don't care. So she had no receipts in her pockets, which made it even harder for police to retrace her steps. Most people don't think about that when they commit suicide
Starting point is 00:23:00 prayers said. I don't think about that ever. I'm never like, well, I'm going to put this receipt in my pocket a second. Apparently in a similar situation normally there'd be receipts and they'd be able to trace some stuff back and figure out who it is. Everyone check your pockets right now. How many receipts do you have that would trace your... Anybody have a week? I have in my pocket I have lip balm so they could trace. They're like why her lip so soft? Ah, just Perkins. Soft as lips and showbiz.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Do we get that? I'll go round. Time out. Ah, you're a cool teacher. Well nearly, this is the first of five, right? Don't look at me with those lips. The lips are looking at me. It's very disturbing. Noting the money left for cremation, the lack of receipts and the top doubt suicide note. For us, this lady appears to have taken a thoughtful effort to leave us no clue as to who she is and she's got it all plotted out.
Starting point is 00:24:20 There's only two L's in that all, but it was a bit of editorial work. I don't think I've had another case that's beaten me up like this one. I'll go back here now. No, no, give us the final sentence of this. Her identity remains a mystery. Ooh. All right, I'm coming back.
Starting point is 00:24:40 This next one made me feel really sad. Oh, oh, my God. Oh, my, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I just spoke it to my drink. That happens at least when you're seeing God God. It's not the first time I've done that. Alright, now bring it down. We all have fun, was that fun? Remember that. When you leave, remember that bit.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And when somebody says, how was it? You go, a parcel of the fun. A parcel of fun. Yeah. We've been having so much fun in Brisbane, right? Last night we gait crashed a 40th birthday. Yeah, that's a fun. Yeah. We've been having so much fun in Brisbane, right? Last night we gait crashed a 40th birthday. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And that guy, we told that guy to come, you hear most beautiful Tom? He's not easy. No, what a dog. I mean, what a dog. It is the day after he's really upset last night. That was his present. We said, you can come for free to our podcast tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And of course, he politely said, Yeah! You'll be there. I said he was ever going to come. He can come for free to our podcast tomorrow and of course he politely said yeah I Really thought he would Stop pitting him None of us deserve your pity. We've got your money You own us All right You own us. Yeah. Alright. I'm going to read out the full name of this one,
Starting point is 00:26:09 and you guys will see that it is quite a Christmassy topic. Topping number two, the murder of Erica Richardson. You feel unfastive? In 1997, Erica Richardson was a 33-year-old living in Valrico, Florida. Guys, that means that she'd be 53 years old. Right? Yep. Good, end of story.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So the first section is going to talk about how good her life was. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why did you make this an option? Like you had the choice. I really thought it was- I really thought- The only thing you'd put up for vote and you put up a fucked one. And of course they chose that. And now we've got 120 people sitting here going, I got to call my mum. But these are the people- like these are the people who like this stuff. Do you like this stuff? Your boys, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, they're losing them. Brisbane is a sunny place, I forget. In Drury Melbourne, people love sadness. Anyway, so she's 33, she's living in Florida. She had a degree in microbiology from the University of Florida and was running a pharmacy, having recently completed her postgraduate work in pharmaceuticals from Howard University of Florida and was running a pharmacy, having recently completed her postgraduate work in pharmaceuticals from Howard University, graduating Magna Cum Laude. Um...
Starting point is 00:27:31 LAUGHTER No, I know Matthew, I know. Please, please tell us more about this cumple. LAUGHTER The next sentence, because I didn't make take the time to check it. The next sentence I've written is, I assume that's meant to be pronounced differently. LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, it goes, uh, Dr. Professor, back to Mr. then, come along, right? Magna come, Lord. She bought a house in Valrico and things are going very well. She started dating a man named John Milton Fager and you know when they've got three names that they're good people I'm literally gonna make a joke about three names Sorry everybody, but I think that they do that in America so that When someone has done some bad other John Fagers
Starting point is 00:28:38 Don't get sort of cast with the same brush. Sure. That's not the saying is it cast with the same brush. Sure. Is that not the same? Is it? Cast with the same brush? Tard. Painted Tard. We've had a few good options there. They're all better than mine. It's all matters. Cast with the same brush.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah, you don't want to be tard with the same cum board, right? No one wants that. I certainly don't. Not it, not again, anyway. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER We've had an arm, my god, we've had an arm, no please. What a fun time. I like that begging for that love.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Love Brisbane, love you guys. They started dating, they were getting on great and soon he moved into a house. Eeeeee! They started dating, they were getting on great and soon he moved into her house. Before too long though, this relationship started to fall apart. Fager proved to be a jealous and violent man and she kicked him out of the house. But this didn't stop Fager. He started stalking Erica and harassing her at work. And turn her, yeah, I hate this one so much. This one's.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I mean, you wrote it. It was the first one I put in and I regretted it later. I'm like I spent hours on this one. It's not going to be good. Look all we can hope for is that we won't get through all five. That's what we can make. I saved some gold for later. Let's push through this one.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Awesome. This led to taking out a restraining order against him, but some reports say that when the restraining order expired, they started dating again. Ran Christmas time, 1997, Erica was out shopping for Christmas with her mother, Imogen, at a local mall. When they were heading back to their car,
Starting point is 00:30:17 Fager appeared and he wanted to talk to Erica, and they went off together and her mom headed home. The next day, Erica didn't shop to work. Her mum, Imogen, called the pharmacy at 9.30. And her co-workers hadn't seen her. This worried her mother greatly, so she drove around to Erica's house to find out what was going on.
Starting point is 00:30:36 She looked through the window to see blood on the white carpet, so she called the cops immediately. It's why you don't get white carpet. Was that blue on the white carpet? Oh, that's going on. They blew on the white carpet? Oh, that's going on. They blew on the white carpet. No, that's not white, right? That's because of a lot of blue in the carpet.
Starting point is 00:30:51 LAUGHTER I felt too respectful to go there, Dave. Look, I don't know how this ends so I could still be a good person. Probably not. When they arrive they find Erika dead. She has been brutally murdered stabs 67 times. Fagas truck is parked outside but Erika's Honda is missing.
Starting point is 00:31:18 The prime suspect is Fagas. A search leads to the Honda being found in Louisiana where Fagas has family. There is no sign of Fager. It's as if he's vanished. The crime scene showed that there had been a struggle and someone else's blood had been mixed in with their erikers. It was thought that the blood was Fager's but without a DNA sample from him it couldn't
Starting point is 00:31:40 be proven. Years go by and there is still no sign of Fager. This was until 2008, over 10 years after the murder, when his whereabouts were finally known. For nearly 11 years, Fager was a John Doe body at the St Mary's Parish Coroner's office. In June 2008, Fager's DNA was searched in an FBI computer software system, and dental records from the US Army confirmed that it was Fager. His body was found in a St Mary parish river by a tugboat in 1998 soon after the murder only a few months later. Not only was it confirmed that the
Starting point is 00:32:16 body was his blood samples from Erica Richardson's apartment were resubmitted for testing and DNA from the crime scene and the unidentified remains were a match. So I was confirmed that Fager was the murderer, so that, see, it wasn't the mystery part. The mystery though. Oh, oh, twist. The mystery is what happened to him. He died.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He was murdered. He was murdered and before he was dumped into the river. But no one knew who killed him and why. And the case remains unsolved. That is the mystery. Oh! I like it. So the family like, image in has been very public.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Apparently she went through a very tough time early, obviously, where she just shut herself in a room, but eventually she started going out and doing a lot of TV spots and talking about it trying to find out who it was and she's happy now that it's sort of been solved but she really wishes that she could have seen him face to face and go what the fuck did you do this full sort of thing she's still like missing that little piece of her but she's happy that he's dead. So he'll end it happy there. Alright guys, when I say Merry you say, Krishman! Are you working way too hard for way too little?
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Starting point is 00:34:19 Fruitcake and I was suggested by a listener called Eric from Edmonton. He thought this would be a good Christmas topping. This is what he wrote. Fruitcakes. Despite all logic, people buy these bloody disgusting things with little or no intention of actually eating them. No one really wants them. That's why calling someone a fruitcake is derogatory. Why, they still a thing. It's a mystery. And when you get hundreds of emails like that every week. And obviously, I thank Eric for the suggestion.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It's a tricky one to answer why they still are thin. I have no idea, but I have looked into their origin according to this Smithsonian magazine's website. The ancient Romans made something reminiscent of a fruitcake as a sort of energy bar, but the modern fruitcake can be traced back to the Middle Ages as dried fruits became more widely available. And fruited breads entered Western European cuisine. Fruited breads! Since then, regional variations have popped up around the world including...
Starting point is 00:35:35 You were actually talking about fruit cake. Including... It's all about the history of fruit cake. I'm just clarifying. This is a little... Better than baby death, well played. It's a little... Please go history of fruit cake. I'm just clarifying. This is a little bit more. Better than baby death, well played. So he's going on with fruit cake. It's just a little palette cleanser.
Starting point is 00:35:50 The formal baby death. Have you heard you guys familiar with Italy's panforte, or however you pronounce that? Close. Apparently, it literally means strong bread. Yeah. And that is a fruit cake, alright great. Germany's stolen?
Starting point is 00:36:11 Dave you might be familiar with... I have a German name, that's the only connection. It's got German heritage. It's the only thing I'm allowed to say. I think someone has whispered his analysis. Well you're not announcing. That he's not joking. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Guys, guys, guys, he's not. He was. Never. Never was. Never will be. Oh, I don't say never say never. I reckon I might say never on this one. Anyway, I love a 40.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That was kind of Scottish. Grandpa was born in Scotland, so there you go. I love a 40. Get it in the target. In the target. Get it in the target. That's something that Dave Warnocki just said. That was dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:09 It does happen, it does happen. It will make me edit it out, but you guys all heard that live. Every episode, I think the hardest part of this podcast is editing all the dumb things Dave says. We record for about four hours a week but I will ask you to believe in the true pronunciation of cartilage. Cartilage. Cartilage. I don't think so. For 120 Brisbane people ever been wrong before? We died down! You guys love that, right? Yeah I get you, I get you God, how good is Jonathan's first?
Starting point is 00:37:52 You guys love being yelled at, yeah? Like you have to stay you live in being yelled at you, yeah? Tersos actually from from FNQ so they don't lock him down here. What you don't understand is North Queensland want to split off from South What do you don't understand is North Queensland want to split off from South Queensland. He doesn't understand you guys like I do. So sorry. Cut a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:14 What was that one you said the other way? Kedava. Kedava. That was wrong as well, right? Yeah. So. Kadava. That was wrong as well, right? Yeah. So... Quince, I know!
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah, you fucking Quince Landers. Anyway, the mystery here is no one knows why fruitcake has become a Christmas tradition. That's a mystery. Ooh! According to the Smithsonian website, we think it's a crime, but don't clap him. But, but I, hopefully to save this section, there is a little fun fact here.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Okay. I'll back in. I love this and I really want to go to this thing. In Manitou Springs, Colorado, there's an annual fruit cake toss event. LAUGHTER Is it launched by the Magda Cum? What? Did you just want to say cum laude again?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Did you get... Sorry, did you hear what someone's in the front row? No, she died. Look, if we can toss over that one little detail, you get a cheap cum gag away, and all we have. A cheap cum, the Dave Warnocky story. You're absolutely nothing. Guys, can you believe that we have lowered the tone of Queensland?
Starting point is 00:39:44 They were classier before we arrived. Cop that, everybody involved. That really didn't leave anyone out, did it? Don't hide the regret face. Show it loud and proud, baby! So, the fructcake toss. So according to their website, the fruitcakes will fly once again. Join in for some old fashioned tossing of those, maybe not so beloved holiday desserts. There will also be a fruitcake costume competition, libations, and a fruitcake bake-off. No! But they're throwing them and they're baking them.
Starting point is 00:40:32 People spend hours baking them and someone just grabs them and goes, Yeah! So wait, they're even acknowledging that nobody likes fruitcake. Yeah. So let's just stop making it. Well, all right. Now this next sentence is the most confusing one I've ever read. So see what you can make of this.
Starting point is 00:40:52 A limited-qual- What? Yeah, it's very confusing. Is that confusing? A limited- What do they mean? A limited quantity of fruit cakes are available to rent. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's very strange, anyway. I feel like a fruit cake, but just for like an hour. There's a bit. What's that face? The floor you rented, you gotta like examine it and take fun. Which is for like an hour. This is a bit. That's what you're doing. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. That's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:41:28 You got to like examine and take photos of it in case they accuse you of damaging things. Yeah. You got to leave a bond. Competitions have included the hand toss, kids toss, launch, pneumatic gun or cannon. Sorry. Just stop me right there. The kids toss. I mean, can you rent a kid for them? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:51 They got it all. And there's also the team catch and the accuracy division. What fucking nerds are going to this? I will be there next year. Once the foodcakes are launched, they are collected and given to a food bank. What a generous donation. Here goes the poor.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Probably things that we thought were such funny food that we threw them into the air. Eat and be merry. Colorado, you disgust me. Nagoranya. The mystery of food cake. Yeah. What any theories?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Any theories, what do you think happens to food cake? When why is foodcake associated to Christmas? Mystery number four! This one. Oh no. So now we've had that palette cleanse. You guys are ready for the murder of Latrisha once? Ah, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Texan Latertrischer... Commit, commit to that please. Texan Lertrischer White spent Christmas Day 1993. Very, a lot of 90s sadness. In 1993 with a boyfriend Lee Waka Hagen. Alright, so is that his middle name? That's Lee's his first name. Waka Hagen is his surname.
Starting point is 00:43:33 His nickname, Dub. Anyone start the company, Dub. I think I'm sure I'm short for W. I don't have no idea. Oh man, my last name starts up to the W. Newding Game Police. So he may be a real big dubstep artist, I'm not sure, but I doubt it. As him I. So she spent Christmas with dub and his son Chants. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I don't like it, but dub and chance. You also want to name your child Gary. No offense to any Gary. So much. Any Gary's in the house? Oh, you fucking losers. All right, great. On the 27th of December, a few days passed, obviously, after Christmas, Latrisia's dad was getting worried as he hadn't been able to get in contact with his daughter for a few days past, obviously, after Christmas. Latrice's dad was getting worried,
Starting point is 00:44:25 as he hadn't been able to get in contact with his daughter for a few days. So he visited her house where he found her dead in her bed. Ah. I've done all I can. I don't think I can copy. Ah, I can. Six times.
Starting point is 00:44:40 LAUGHTER You want to update that lovely comment? No, still happy with lovely, alright? Dub was known for having a violent temper and was seen in a heated argument with Latisha shortly before Christmas. So he was the main suspects and suspect. Wow. He played all three roles. Wow. Dub was two people. Oh yeah, did I mention that? Dub's multiple people. And a warrant for his arrest was put out.
Starting point is 00:45:16 But he and his son, or as I've written here, he and his song, Chance, would no way to be found. I mean, in a lot of ways I could have just kept going. But I didn't want to let you guys know that I'm not an idiot. Three days later, Dub's truck. Dub's truck. Poor man's thunder struck.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, I haven't been on that one. Dave, that was funny. Thank you. Pity you've brought it down by talking about murder this whole time. Now the fruit cake. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:46:01 The devil over there in the red light. When you talk about murder so much that the devil over there in the red light. Yeah, when you talk about murder so much that the devil complains, it's probably the little too much. Sorry, go on. Three days later, Dub's truck was found abandoned in a field 50 kilometers away from the scene of the crime. Items left inside the truck included Dub's wallet and a bunch of unopened Christmas presents
Starting point is 00:46:22 all cl- cl- cl- cl- covered in blood. But, it's just the wrapping that's covered in blood. Yeah, it's fun. If you guys are worried about the presents being soiled, it's only on the wrapping. Open it up! The super-soaker will be fine within, okay. It's filled with blood. You did this.
Starting point is 00:46:47 You guys know how hard reading is. The blood was assumed to be that of latrishes, but when tested it did not match. It was someone else's blood. This has led to theories that the killer may have been a third party and that the blood may have been dubs or chances Who may have disposed of the bodies from there? So someone might have come in killed those guys as well. So maybe it was someone who took out the whole Christmas party That's much better
Starting point is 00:47:21 So that that's one theory but a few months later, this thing, this bit made, gave me some chills. A few months later. That's great. This one, this bit made me feel something. A few months later though, chances maternal grandmother received a phone call from a young boy who said, help me. The call was cut off, but she believes the boy was chance. They were never able to trace it, they never figured out who it was. Chancendub have never been found, so they were either killed by the murderer or they were the murderers themselves still hiding out.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Okay, I was not blame chance. What's not to say they were the murderers? I mean, he's a kid. Okay, no, we're blaming chance. Cool, all right? Not necessarily, I'm not saying it was definitely chance, but... But there is a chance. It's a small chance. I mean, that's what we were getting at, but... I wouldn't like if you were to make that funny a day, just for future, you ever not.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah. You would have said, but that is a possibility that would have been... Do you get it? Do you get why that's funnier? Yeah, you missed his chance. I missed my possibility. Come on! You just got a pause for that. I'd say stand up and take a bow. Please, yeah come on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You ruined it when you knocked over the drink. Alright, we're up to the final one. It's old enough for us to not feel bad about people dying. Don't like that, I don't like that. I was actually also suggested as a topic in itself by a listener named... Something... something Gaelic. I would say Yebini. Yeb... or I'll spell it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 A-O-I-B-H-I-N-N. Anyone? Fuck. What the fuck, you're all right? It's interesting. Interesting. It's pronunciation, quite a say. And they're from Perth. Anyway, so this is their suggestion.
Starting point is 00:49:27 LAUGHTER Hey, I've been. Hey, I've been. LAUGHTER Hey, I've been. That was funny. Now with each said one funny thing today. All right, Maddie.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Maddie. Maddie, this is the last one. This is the last one. I believe in you. I reckon you can save this. I with each said one funny thing today. Maddie. Maddie, this is the last one. This is the last one. I believe in you. Eric and you can save this. I really believe this one. This was my favorite one. And Eric and this is going to be, I won't tell you the name of this one, but I think
Starting point is 00:49:53 the name of this episode is going to be this topic and other Christmas mysteries. Okay. This is a bloody. The murder of 19 people and other Christmas things. The brutal matter of innocent children feats other mysteries. Feats, you'll, at some point during this you'll be like, oh,. Wow. There's a butterfly trip. She really laughed at his back. She will laugh at any back. Why do you think she's sitting in the front door? If you're in the same room, you'd be laughing at the person in front of you and you'd back the whole fucking back. You're gonna come to play with her.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You're gonna come to play with her. You're gonna come to play with her. Better, better. He is very good. I'd say he's in the lot, but he's the funniest person I know after Jess. Second comes right after first. So thank you so much. Come on. Cess twins. Alright, come on bring it on.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I nearly charged, thank you. Okay, let me take you back to Christmas time 1885. You're right, That is long enough ago Tell us about something facts also also the people in it are old already Back then people didn't live that long back then exactly exactly. Thank you So a Christmas time out in 85 an elderly couple who lived near the farming town of Sanico You're gonna very quickly fall in love with these guys who lived near the farming town of Sanica. I can't get about it. Illinois. They're so cute. They're so cute.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You're going to very quickly fall in love with these guys. Oh, I forgot about it. I forgot about it. You do this. Their names are Patrick and Matilda Rooney. No. Pat Tilly. Patty and Tilly.
Starting point is 00:52:16 There it is. And they love a drink. They love a drink these guys. Where are they, sorry? Illinois. They're in Sineca, Illinois. Almost definitely not pronounced Sineca. Oh, Sinesha. You're from North America, sir. Any idea about a small town in Illinois? You're from Canada? That's close. Am I saying Sineca right? Now thank
Starting point is 00:52:43 you. There we go. He's actually from South Africa and he's I know I also made it wait can you he's a South African come Canadian am I saying that right can I oh boy oh my Matt is in the crowd those are how Matt is in the crowd can those are how Matt is in the crowd. Can I get you to say diplomatic immunity please? But say how we want you to say it. Like a South African shirt, not how you actually would. Diplomatic immunity. I'll give you one more chance.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You got to say it like an American pretending to be a South African. Diplomatic immunity. That was pretty good. That was good. Sorry about that. Did I drop your... On Christmas Eve. They shared Christmas drinks with their farm head, John Larson. The whiskey flowed until last... It's a help.
Starting point is 00:53:43 How quaint. So John Larson the help, he went upstairs to sleep at about 8pm. During the night, Larson awoke having a coughing fit, but he was able to get back to sleep and he did. So you go for a second, you guys are like, is this the mystery? But I closed the one down pretty quickly. Didn't want to leave you guys hanging. What caused the cough?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Dust. So for a couple of little clues as to what's coming, feet and coughing fit. The next morning... Oh my god, you've got your feet full of, like, what's going on? I should also say, I didn't find that many, like, super quality references for this one. So it feels a bit mythical, but it's definitely a story. It sounds a bit like he's about to turn into the moth man or something.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So, what's coming? The next morning, when he'll work, you notice things were a bit weird. Firstly, there was Souton its pillow. Souton its pillow. But a Christmas morning suit. Could it be Santa? No. No. No, no. What he found was much weirder than Santa. It was a middly quite weird. That's how young are you guys again? That's interesting. What do you think about Santa? Cool guy, real.
Starting point is 00:55:19 He's real. That's what I do as well. He's real, man. I can talk to the youth. Um. That do this. They love that. You know how I know how they love that?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Because when I said where are the dads at, one of the dads did that before. So I know that is where it's at. But also, when you said that, someone in the second row crumped. No, what do you call that fudge? Dad! Dad, crap! I can't!
Starting point is 00:55:54 Oh, it's in a crumb like this. No, that's twerking. What the fuck's a grunt? What is a grunt? I'm not doing it. A grunt is more similar to a dab than a bloody twerk is to a dab in the wall. Hey, hey. So sorry about grandpa over here.
Starting point is 00:56:17 What about dad? I'm so sorry. Not...not aimed at you. That was not for you. Who was it for Dave? It was for you Jess. That was the sweet sweet crumb. It's a crumb.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Matt. On Christmas Eve. So he stood on his pillow coughing fit the night before. He's popped up, soot. But what he found was much weirder than Santa, so we're up to date now, right? That's a recap for people who have had to pause the podcast because it's taken so long. And now they're on their return journey from work on the train. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:57:02 So he went down, this is the farmhand, Jess. He went downstairs to find Patrick Rooney dead in his bedroom. Old man Patrick, the farmer. But Matilda was nowhere to be found, his wife. Then, last and went into the kitchen, where he found a blackened hole in the floor. The hole burnt straight through the floor, so the ground could be seen. Ooh. Fucking lives away from you. I don't know what you're thinking. You just saved my life. Also, mole people.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah. It could be mole people. It could be mole people. Matt, I nearly died. I know, and Dave saved your love. It was beautiful. Everyone enjoyed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Especially those at home. Who will still not understand what happened, but basically someone came out of her with a gun. And just started pumping for self-defense. Dodge the bullet. And then brought her soft lips near Dave. To make sure he was okay. Because I know he worries.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Her soft lips. Soft lips of lips. I know I started it. Okay, so there's a couple of weird things so far now. So there's some in the pillow, he's dead, he's coughing, there's a hole in the floor. The internal walls of the house are coated with a greasy and sooty substance. Greasy and sooty. Yeah, it's a weird mix.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I don't feel like opposites. Yeah, what a weird mix. How was it both? Find out next. Inside the hole was a pile of ashes. Inside the hole. How else would I have said that? Good point, but still gross.
Starting point is 00:58:51 In these ashes, there were fragments of bones. These were the remains of Matilda Rooney. Spontaneous combustion. Is it? And mole people. Combined. According to one source, admittedly the source is a listicle. The estimated sandwicher.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Seamat, a good joke they would have been. Well, admittedly the source is ketchup, you know, like mentioning a source. You know what I mean? You know what I mean, good. They're laughing. It's pity, but they're laughing. I'd... Regelitalistical.
Starting point is 00:59:30 So, the listical states, the estimated temperature of the fire that consumed her was 1400 degrees Celsius or 2500 degrees Fahrenheit. And there were no other signs of fire damage in the rest of the house. Near the ashes were Matilda's feet. Just chose the wrong time to have a drink. Some sources say, catch up. Oh, I thought you were. Whilst others say the feet were still in their shoes. What shoes? I thought that was a real question. It is.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah. Air pumps. Oh. Uh, Matilda's husband Patrick was found to have died suffocating from the fumes of the fire. Oh. So he died in his bed suffocating. All of a sudden he was saying, you know, coughing upstairs.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Hmm. Maybe that makes some sense. There was some suspicion that Larsen was the murderer, but it was found to be very unlikely that he would have been able to make a fire burn so hot inside the house without creating further damage to the property. It is likely his coughing fit in the middle of the night
Starting point is 01:00:58 would have been due to the fire, okay. The thing I just said. So what? He's good. Okay, so I'm putting two or two together here, but could the fire have caused the man to cough? Is that possible? That is one theory. Okay, another one is Mustard. No, that fucked that Look, that's close right a good A good try. A good try, thank you very much, sir. Brisbane is so supportive.
Starting point is 01:01:27 They're so nice. They've stuck with you this entire time, with this fucked rapport. I'm actually, I'm really into this. So what has happened? What has happened? So the next thing I've written is, so what happened? That's what I was wondering.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Can confirm. Yeah. According to Britannica.com, the tragedy left investigators baffled. It's a mystery. Did anyone see that coming? No source of ignition could be found for the blaze and although the flames had been intense enough to reduce Matilda Rooney to ashes and a few bone fragments, the fire had not spread.
Starting point is 01:02:10 The fire seemed to have started in her body and stayed confined to her body. What's that known as? My name. You want to read? Someone just said lightning. Just read the next sentence. It appeared that the runies had fallen victim to the rare and edigmatic phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Spontaneous human combustion was thought to be a thing back in the day. Usually the victims were alcoholics. Tilly loved a drink. The theory went that they were so soaked with alcohol that they could somehow ignite without any external source of ignition. But Britannicus states that none of the proposed scientific explanations for how a body would spontaneously burst into flames of held up to scrutiny. The Victorian explanation that alcohol rendered the body flammable doesn't work, seeing that the concentrations
Starting point is 01:03:09 of alcohol, even in the most intoxicated people, are much too low, and that an external source of ignition would be required. Please, no one will add a match to me right now. Did you fart? LAUGHTER No, I had a couple beats. I don't know if you remember this moment last time, Matt, but I'm supposed to be in the Land Room, Matt's on there, but I'm on a...
Starting point is 01:03:33 Okay, do you remember the last time I went? I worked myself out because I farted. Do you remember? Do you remember? Well, as he was on a timeout, so you know, he was still playing and I was really good. Oh! And I thought to myself, What happened to Matt here at that?
Starting point is 01:03:51 And now I'm asking, Do you hear that? No, I did not. I slept very well. I wish I hadn't said everything. All right. What was that not the first thing you told me this morning? Because I had a couple of beers, I was a bit ashamed.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's the best! Oh, what was that? Oh, it was me, Matt. You like when a dog does it? And they're like, oh, what? You guys know that kind of shame where you won't tell one of your close friends about it privately But then when you're sitting next to her in front of 120 people, you know that kind of shame. That's what Dave has They kind of shame where you're like, well, this may get a laugh and I'm desperate for that because I'm very alone
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's what's happened Stop doing Jess's gear, Dave Yeah, I'm the lonely one. So now I have a lot of friends. I have a lot of friends. That is the best thing for this. Too much. I'm yelling at my boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I'm an old friend. I have a lot of friends. We've learned that. It's a saddest thing for me. So we're're at the final paragraph. This is basically Britannica spoiling the fun of the spontaneous combustion. Britannica goes on to, but it also makes it kind of more fucked as well. Britannica goes on to say that in the 20th century forensic scientists noted that the wicker fact, to be out of the wicker fact. I have not. Well, they had a bit of string out the butt.
Starting point is 01:05:25 You lied it. Boom. Yeah, I've heard of it. This guy's heard of everything. So you have zero shits. So there's a 20th century science notice the Wic effect, in which clothing worn by a victim can soak up melted fat, acting like the wikifect we were having so much fun.
Starting point is 01:05:48 And creating conditions for a body to smolder for an extended period of time. Thank you. So what's the source, how do they get on fire in the fax? Experiments have shown that this effect can produce many of the unusual characteristics associated with spontaneous human combustion, such as the complete or nearly complete incineration of the body and the lack of fire damage to the victim surroundings. The likely explanation for suspected cases of spontaneous human combustion then is that there is an external source of ignition, a match, a cigarette, an electric spark, that sets off the wick effect. But the evidence of that is destroyed in the fire, so the ignition is destroyed, right? So you don't know that there was a string out there, but...
Starting point is 01:06:27 Exactly, because that burns, obviously. And while alcohol doesn't make the body more flammable, being super drunk means that you probably are less likely to stop yourself burning. Just like me with my fart last night, you're like, what's that? That's a fire to worry about. So that's why... Stop talking about you fart. Just like me with my fart last night, you're like, what's that? I was fired up when I was about it. So that's why... Stop talking about your fart.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't know if you know this map, but last night I farted. So the idea is that all these spontaneous human combustions that happened in the 1800s were always drunk people nearly alcoholics right. It's probably just because they're so drunk that they're slowly burning to death without stopping, dropping and rolling. That is... Jenny, what question?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Why have people stopped combusting? Very good question. I'll fill this one. Um... How many asked you? I'd say it's because the Queensland system where they now make you take photo ideas, you went to a referee, Nanny stayed, that's why.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You did a great job. It was a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very to you as well. No, I'm just gonna have a big round of applause for Chris Rish and Max Schewitz, five disgusting mystery. Yay!
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Starting point is 01:08:08 Three bucks Very confused face up the back there wristbands We should say thank you so much to Kate Rideshraubing us all gonna ask And this venue hey about that that we are in Fortitude Valley in Brisbane is an absolutely fantastic bar. And they also have a comedy night every single Wednesday night, which Matt, you were the MC this week. I was. I've MCed a few times.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It's the most fun. I reckon it's one of the best comedy rooms in Australia. And I think you guys, many of you have been here before. I know you do. Awesome. Definitely, if you haven't checked it out, you're really sure it goes fucking sick. And they get
Starting point is 01:08:45 Anyone big in town will drop by through here Every week like the big names the Matt Stewart's if you will anyway, let's get out of here because it's hot And I will see you out there generally for a drink, but thanks so much for coming out give yourselves a big round of applause We will say thank you and Merry Christmas! Bye bye! Oh hey there, it's me, Matt, from the show Do Go On, that you're listening to now. So that was the episode, Merry Christmas to all, and to all. Here are some more things. Yeah, it was really cool. So much fun we had there.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Dave just went out after for drinks with a bunch of people there like Cam, Kate, Mike, Jess, Amy and heep more and it was so much fun. Just had the best time in Brisbane. And yeah, we're definitely already talking about going back sometime next year, so that's cool. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Yes, and that, I guess, brings me to what we normally do at the end of the episode is thank some of our Patreon supporters. So let me do that now. I'd love to thank Jacqueline Nielsen from Servus Paradise. And I thought what I'd do is I'd just Google where people are from and then I can see, I can say something about that. So I know Servus Paradise quite well been there before. And what comes up is Skoolies, which is the Australian end of high school party that goes through like a month or something. So yeah, that's sort of unsurprising, that's comes up. It's a schoolies and then there's the
Starting point is 01:10:35 toolies who are the old people who go party there. I'm assuming that must be a frustrating situation for Jacqueline Nielsen and your town's folk. So we had that someone actually lives there. It seemed like such a holiday place. I forget that people actually live there as well. Thanks so much Jacqueline. Are you a tooly? I bet you're not. I bet you're not. I bet you go away for that period of time. I'd also love to thank Craig Hayes, is from Masham North Yorkshire in Britain.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Let's look up Masham. Ah, it's a big beer town. It's interesting, let's see what they've got there. Thickston and a few other craft breweries. Ah, Thickston's cool, that's my, I'll actually make my old man's favorite beer. It's got old peculiar, which I drank one time and it was very nice. That's from Masham, who would have bloody thought it?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Craig Hayes, do you like old peculiar? I imagine it is an old man drink, and I have no idea if you're an old man or not Craig, but I'm guessing you're probably not. What are you? Whatever. And I also have to thank Dan Ford. It's a great name, Dan Ford. As always, all our listeners have great names. Dan Ford, Craig Hayes. Craig Hayes, that's fun to say actually in Jacqueline Nielsen.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Dan Ford is from Brumfield, Chelmsford, Essex. Alright. See, this is a page called Things to Do in Brumfield Essex. It's a Facebook page. What does it say? There are no recommended events. Oh, fuck, hell. That sounds dire. What else we got here? The top result is Brunfield Hospital. I wonder if you were a doctor. Cool.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Surely there's... Alright, let's move to Chelmsford-X Essex. Let's see what's going for it The architecture of the new salvation army citadel Okay, that's the reason to move somewhere What about what else oh? The case against this is from a guardian article the case against moving there Oh, the case against this is from a Guardian article the case against moving there
Starting point is 01:13:10 And I'd be interested to hear if you agree with this Dan it says What do you think ring roads access roads bypasses roundabouts? These are probably these reasons To not move there all still chronic traffic problems and in built denial that it's actually a town with history complexity, etc. Oh, this is brutal. Not just a filler between your front drive and the supermarket. Mundanity. That's how you say that. A cultural black hole. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:13:37 County Cricket makes up for some of this though. All right, this is a Tom. Oh, the guy who wrote this article's name is Tom Decoff. And he sounds like, you know, he's being a bit of a dick off to Chelmsford. I'm sure it's a lovely place to live. Otherwise why would Dan Ford live there? One of the great people who support the show on Patreon. So thank you so much to Dan Craig and Jacqueline. And yeah, thanks so much for listening
Starting point is 01:14:08 everyone. Is there anything else I need to say? Thanks again to Kate Rudge from Hey Our Comedy Do, who helped us set up the show. And Merry Christmas to everyone. Obviously a few more episodes to go. We don't take a break. We keep releasing episodes right through the season, holiday season, Christmas time. So we'll have another episode coming out next week, which we're really looking forward to. It will be a chess book of the episode, which we've actually got in court, and it is very good. So we'll catch you then, and thanks everyone. Laters. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
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