Two In The Think Tank - 113 - Explorer, David Livingstone

Episode Date: December 20, 2017

David Livngstone you presume? Correct! One of the most famous people of the Victorian era, David Livingstone was a terrible missionary... But lucky for him he was a fantastic explorer. Travelling to Africa for three seperate epic adventures, he went to an incredible amount of places no other European person had ever been before him. He is also perhaps best remembered for his advocacy against slavery. Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Twitter: @DoGoOnPod Instagram: @DoGoOnPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/ Email us: [e-mail]/FURTHER READING ON LIVINGSTONE:https://www.britannica.com/biography/David-Livingstonehttps://www.biography.com/people/david-livingstone-9383955https://www.britannica.com/topic/Opium-Warshttp://zambezitraveller.com/livingstone/history/david-livingstone%E2%80%99s-early-missionary-years-and-first-expeditionLivingstone, David, Missionary Travels and Researches In South Africa (1858)http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/david-livingstone-reaches-victoria-fallshttp://www.tothevictoriafalls.com/vfpages/discovery/second.htmlThe Daring Heart of David Livingstone: Exile, African Slavery, and the Publicity Stunt That Saved Millions - Jay Milbrandt (2014)https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Doctor+Livingstone%2C+I+presume%3Fhttps://www.nts.org.uk/Learn/adult_hidden_livingstone.php Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit PlanetBcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Doo Go One. Jess is already laughing. I am here with me Dave Warnakie and I'm here with Jess and her laugh. It's Jess and Matt. Hello.

It's like confusing. Jess and her laugh and Matt and his butt. Is that what you said? What have I got? You are here with you. Me Dave Warnakie. Here I am. This is confusing. It's confusing.

Starts, especially if you've never heard the show before, but anyway, bear with us. If you haven't heard the show before, why are you starting an episode 113? Because of this very interesting topic, I assume. Ah, that makes sense. It is a very interesting topic. You guys don't know what it is yet, but we'll get there in due course. Hmm. Well, weather update for the listeners.

I know they love us talking about the weather. They love it. It's not hot. It's not cold, but it is very wet outside. Yeah, it's pissing down. So that was a little pisser. It is pissing down. It's pissing down.

Dave called me from outside. To complain about the rain, and she didn't do anything about it. Yeah, he was like, I'm here, but I had to park down the street. I was like, that's great Dave, get inside. Yeah. And he was like, oh, it's not going to stop in the next five minutes for you to be able to just wander in, make a run for it a little bit.

You know what, I waited five minutes and she was right, it did not stop for me. So you ran like a little bitch, didn't you? Uh, well, I would, I put it a different way. I st ran like a little bitch, didn't you? Well, I would, I put it a different way. I strolled like a little bitch. That's what I do. I can't run. It's really in rain. What do you want to do to risk my life? Never. I would never ask you to do that. Please don't do that. Oh, I was very wet, but I do call you every time I pull up outside because I'm so anxious about seeing Matt trying to get one side. Yeah, you're always like, is he there? I'm like, yes, Dave, we're recording a podcast. And I'm like, are you there because I cannot be left alone with it?

I know. I know. Is that true? I can't be. I'm mostly here as a mediator. You can't be left alone with me because you're afraid of what you'll do or you're afraid of what I'll do. Oh, interesting distinction. Yes, very important, Matthew.

Good call. I'm afraid of what I'll do because of what you do. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. It's called self-defense. Right, it's okay. Read about it. Yeah.

All right, I'm going to look that up. Self-day faints. Okay. Got a crayon out, just weird. Ripping it with his whole face. How do you search things? No, and that's good, man. He good job.

We're going to go down to the library tomorrow. Get out and encyclopathy, dear. They have the ones that cost a little more money. Yes. Pay, dear. Oh, nice one. Is that where you got that from? No.

No, no, it's just an expensive brand. You're not familiar with it. Okay, interesting. I am not a classy lady. I think we've warmed up enough there with that humor. You're firing on cylinders and maybe we should get into the show. Oh, yeah. I know if you haven't heard the show before because you are interested in this very interesting topic that we'll get to in a second.

This is a show where one of us takes an intern to... We all take an intern. One of us does a report on a topic suggested by a listener. It is my turn to take it in turn 113 goes they have turned off we cannot describe a very basic concept I mean, they're probably read this one of us takes it in turn We'll take it in turn Both of those instances are technically true. Okay, great. That's all we want we are friends Technically true. That's right exactly this show technically true, but very hard to listen to.

One person talks more than the others about a topic. And his my turn to talk the most. Okay. I won't be stopped. That's our favorite, actually. Yeah. I've got the question here. This has been suggested. This is one of our final golden hat suggestions from our long time petron supporter James Roy. Oh, Roy boy. We did like Roy boy. Show you shams. Roy boy. He was on the live Patreon chat.

Yeah, we did that last week. What was James up to? Was he the one driving delivering? No, that was Christopher. Sorry, sorry, James. Sorry, Christopher. James was in... I don't know. Tessie? Yeah. James Roy? No, I don't know. Yeah, James, no. Just, just do the show. All right, James, so you the show. Look James, just so the show, if it's an issue

that we don't really. Okay. Okay. We've got upwards of 10 listeners, James. I can't remember all of you. Oh, we do love all of you equally. All 10. No. 10% each. There's one I love slightly more. 11%. I mean, is it one's on maybe nine? No, do you? Who do you love a lot? No, I'll never tell. So, isn't it? It is.

New. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows? I'll never tell. I've got a question here about James Roy's topic. The question is,

which English missionary is arguably the most famous explorer of Africa? Okay, you've lost me because it's history and geography. That's why just before we hit record said, it's just interesting and I said, I'll find it interesting because I'm a history nerd and also a bit of a geography nerd. Yeah. So over to Matt. If I asked you, oh no, I'm gonna make a statement here and see if there's a true. Dr. Jones, I presume that's not quite right. Is that is so close? Fuck. Dr. Jones, the acqua song. Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, I presume. Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, wake up now. I presume. I, E-I-U, I-E-I-A. Good thinking music for man. E-I-U, I'm just serving. No, it's something like that. That's a good serving term. Have you ever heard the...

I'll just say it and I'll ask Jess if she's heard of it. Doctor. Doctor Livingston, I presume. Have you heard that quite Jess? Yeah, I just said it. So have you heard it before it came out of your mouth? Yes. I'm pretty sure I first heard that on Sesame Street.

Really? Yeah, God, it's a high-brother. Okay, Doctor Livingston you have you have you heard of our English missionary and explorer Dr. Livingston no Dr. David Livingston okay now I understand why you like it now James Roy suggested Dr. Livingston and the quest for the source of the Nile I've actually just focus on what sauce is it barbecue Chutney Chutney's not a sauce Chutney Chutney Wouldn't you call chutney a sauce? What do you call that other sources are there a salsa? I call it a relish

Oh relish What about a bit of peppermint sauce on your rice lamb? Oh? Never had it don't want to go there. Pork chops and apple sauce. Plum sauce. Sweet chili and this spring rolls. We're going to find out what the source of this damn Nile is. Oh, will we? Oh, so we discussed the life of David Livingston. That's very dramatic. Thank you. dramatic. Thank you. I was like, Ryan had in mate. David's living son. No, that's more dramatic now. You're right. I got a compliment and I really ran with it there. No, I need to clarify. It was not a compliment. Look, I had a compliment, Jess. Are you taking it back? Yes. Yes, I'm taking it back. Do you have a crush on this topic?

Yeah, I've got a crush on the topic. All right, well, let me give it to you. The topic will give it to you. David Livingston. All right, actually, I'm going to practice this. He's Scottish, by the way. David! I'm worried about this because on the Planet Broadcasting

Greatmates, the Facebook group, that Leven's actually created Planet Broadcasting great mates, the Facebook group, you know, that Levin's actually created Planet Broadcasting. A lump no. A lump no, like that. That's good. And there's lots of people in there now and people post mainly about superhero movie movies and every time, every now and then I should say someone mentions our podcast and they pick on something I've said. Okay mate. And this was... They also say a lot of really nice things, and you're choosing to... They say something about you, Jess. They will not compliment me in that room. Oh, no, you're just asking for it.

Asking for compliments, yes, please. I'm a very fragile human. Anyway, so some Scottish people got annoyed because I have been mispronouncing their... their town names on the Birken Heyer episode, set... Er, and the... Glasgow. Around Edinburgh.

I said, Fell Kirk, F-A-L-K-I-R-K. Foll Kirk. Foll Kirk. Foll Kirk, I'm so sorry. Okay, well I mean we have different accents. I know, yes, and I'm, but I, uh, I'm about to talk about a very famous Scottish man,

so I'm worried I'm gonna fuck up a few more. So this is me apologizing in advance. Well, see, Quivlin, when Melbourne people get annoyed when people say, Melbourne, I fucking love it when people say Melbourne. No, no. Well, I mean, you're just saying the same thing that you just said.

I was saying that weren't saying. Yeah, all right, good point. But Melbourne sounds dumb. I love it. I probably feel like. But also it's weird when like an American will correct themselves and say it properly. And so then everything else in this end of the American one, they say meldyn. And you go, okay, that does sound ridiculous coming from you.

I appreciate the effort. Maybe just soften the born a little bit like meldyn, you know? It is great when someone's just absolutely going for it in a foreign language and then they stop and just say,'s like oh my god yes McDonald's I remember one time being out for dinner sexy being out for dinner with my my ex-boyfriend and he was ordering um he's ordering an Italian restaurant and he did exactly that and he was like yeah and then um for mains I'll get the spinach and ricotta I was like no no, I know you're saying it properly you left it there and never saw me. Oh, yeah I just I got up that's all my thing is I left my napkin on the table. I said excuse me and I we haven't spoken since

I said good day. I said good day. And he was like I said ricotta. I said river dutch No, I'm saying goodbye. I said, I'm saying River Dutche. No mate, I'm saying goodbye. I'm saying River Dutche. Look mate, I'm just gonna have to walk away. Yeah, I don't. I don't know you anymore. Chowbell. Okay, so David Livingston was born in Blanthire. Oh, you fucked it.

Lannick Sheer Scotland. You fucked all of it. It's Scotland. Even that is wrong, isn't it? Lanakshah. Oh dear. You are not helping. Sorry, everybody. My surname is Stuart, a Scottish name. No, it's no. It's not far from Glasgow for context here. A few miles out. In the year 1813. Ah, good year. Well, it's been a long time. Yeah, it feels good. I'd be back.

When you say it, I love it. OK, that's nice. It's just a note for the record. Right. He was one of seven children born. Too many. Dave. Question mark.

Do I know what's causing it? Thank you so much. It does feel good to be back. It really does. Where did you go? One of does feel good to be back. It really does. He wanted you to go. He wanted for us to be back in the room. Oh. And for you to say,

put your ear and Matt to follow it up with, do they know what's causing it? Sure. He was one of seven children born to Neil and Agnes. Hmm. A Neil work. Agnes. Is there?

What's the celebrity couple name? The Benefa Nagnus. They're all here. Brangelina, do they ever work out? No. Except for posh and becks. Pecks. Oh, yeah, that's a good shit.

Oh, yeah. Neil, so the father worked in a cotton factory and all nine of the family lived in a single room at the top of a building and uses a home for the cotton workers. The room measured just 14 by 12 feet or 3.5 by 4.2 meters. How did nine people fit in that? They were really poor. Sorry, 3.5 by 2 meters.

3.5 by 4.2. 4.2. Poor people are very good at fitment. I think my bedroom might be a similar kind of size. Poor people like Tetris blocks. They must have bunk beds. It's what they've meant. I think my bedroom might be a similar kind of size. Poor people like Tetris blocks. They must have bunk beds. It's the only possible explanation. They fit together, they know their place. Which is together.

And when they create a perfect line, they decompost. Decompost. Just how about they just decompost? Compost. I don't say we hear Matt, they were so poor that the age of just 10 he, uh, he too had to work in the cotton factory, but he and his brother worked for between 12 and 14 hours a day. No.

No. This is what 10 year olds should be doing for 12 to 14 hours a day. Playing the Sims. Okay. End of list. And if you want me to take it out with Agnes, because I can. If you wouldn't mind. Just like so if they'll work you the 10 hours or 15 hours. Yeah. Rounded down or up. Depending on what mood I'm in. And academic young chap.

On the weekend, he would undertake school with some of the other children who worked in the cotton mill. And they also do some schooling after their long-rawling days. Oh, fuck that. Oh, that was a real sweet little ramen verse. Thank you. What do you have for more of those coming soon? I don't want more. He was also a great reader.

His name was not Peter. That was just taking a sip, but it was not the best timing. Factually accurate. He was not Peter. I would have mentioned that. It had nothing to do with the rhyme. It was an accident. He smug face, though, right?

That was the best part. He was also a great reader, not named Peter, but he also self-educated, often propping up books in the factory where he could, where he would, often propping up books in the factory where he works, so he could read whilst performing his monotonous job of attaching cotton heads to the spinning machines. He read books on many subjects, as well as taking a keen interest in nature and the great outdoors.

So I've got no idea when this guy slept. He's working four to 10 hours a day. He's going to school and he's going outside in the great outdoors. Hey, when you've got ambitions, you don't need sleep. He does. One thing about this guy, he's driven. I like it. You said keen interest then. We had feedback recently from an American who said they only ever hear the word keen on this podcast. Is that something we say a lot?

Yeah, keen for pain. Yeah. I mean, that was a hashtag. That was quite popular. And then people were commenting on it saying, someone said, if someone said I'm keen for something in a conversation where they live, people would be like, is it, what are you? Like it or you dislike it?

Yeah, right. It's amazing. Language is fun, isn't it? I'm keen for that. Fine, we'll go around and kill it. What do you want? Pull out a gun. Is there answered everything? Who? Dave?

Uncane people. Got it. His father, this David, was extremely religious and so was he. He grew up a Calvinist, but when he reached the age of 18, he joined a much stricter discipline of Christianity. Stricter than Calvin's. Twice's strict. What was the Malcolm's twice as many kelvins? So Gerald's? They are fucked.

The Gerald's are fucked. Jesus. Geraldism. Gerald's Gism. Okay. David worked at the cotton plant from the age of 10 to 26, but this hard monotonous work gave him the tenacity to work hard. Hang on. That's 16 years. Okay, confirm. And this put him in good stead to achieve great things in later life. Such as, or you're looting to something, you can just tell us now.

Little sizzle there. Yeah. So you're not gonna tell us. You're just gonna, you could just, you could just wrap it up there. Let's tell us what it was and. I'll save everyone a lot of time. The way we go. But you're gonna keep talking, aren't you? Look, we have a quarter of minutes to fill. Do we? I've never signed a contract on that. There's a podcast law. I wrote there isn't. If it goes under an hour, we all die. That's the speed. Yeah. This podcast goes under 60 minutes. We're all dead. Thank God. Kiana Reeves is here. Oh God. I love that movie. It's such a good movie. So good. Dennis Hopper. Best bad guy ever. Such a good bad guy. So good. Anyway.

Living stood at aspirations to work as a missionary and an appeal for medically qualified missionaries in China made him study sites on becoming a doctor. He put himself through a uni at Glasgow by continuing to work. No, that didn't work. No. By continuing to work in the mill and he studied Greek theology and medicine for two years in said city. Glasgow.

Why do you need to know Greek? And what? In medicine. If you're ever in Athens, you need a treat-a-patient? Five, good point. Yeah, I'm thought about that. Great point. So.

You're holidaying in the onwards. Yeah, that's right. If someone like, you know, has a heart attack on the Acropolis, you've got to know what to do. You've got to know what to do. Or some other Greek reference I'm out. So blocky. So blocky, if you're eating a heart attack into blocky.

If someone says standing on the top of one of those white buildings with the blue domes, near the beach in Santorini, and they fall off onto an asthmatic fit, they fall onto an asthmatic fit. Yeah fall onto an asthmatic fit. Yeah. So there's two people involved now. One's having an asthmatic fit. One is fallen from a great height. So you really need to be able to speak the language. You need to be able to speak the Greek.

Yeah. Like I did just then. Spreck on the Greek. Did you just say speaker to Greek? Speaker to the Greek. I hated that. Do you hate that? No, I'll fucking love it. Thank you. It just seems like she's trying to pretend she doesn't love you're bombing, but I mean, it's pretty transparent. No, I'm just trying to be the bad boy of the pod. Bad boy, bad boy, what you gonna do?

What you gonna do? I'm the Aussie bad boy. So he's putting himself through you and he's becoming a doctor, but he's dreams of being He's a bad boy. So he's putting himself through you and he's becoming a doctor, but his dreams of being a missionary in China were dashed when the first opium war broke out in China. That'd be a fun war. Yeah, imagine. Do you know anything about the...

Who can do more? Is that what I was? Yeah, who can do more opium? They should have called it the opium at Limpix, really. I reckon I could do more opium than you. Oh, well, you've got yourself an opium wall. Alright, mate, let's fucking do it. Like me up.

Don't bring a bloody knife to an opium fight. Bring opium. I was just going to use it to chop up the opium, but okay. B-Y-O opium. B-Y-O-P-M. Ah, fuck, I'm going to say. What's the other O stand for? Own.

Yes, I reckon. I reckon that does bring your O-P-M. No, but bring your O-P-M. That's the same thing as saying bring your own O-P-M. I'm not going to bring Steve's O-P-M. Why not? What if he needs to hand carrying it from the car? Fair enough.

Steve, make your own five. He's such a good friend, Dave. Why, Steve? Steve, he, is it just for that? Don't give him a microphone. He's my OPM dealer. Oh, dear. The first OPM war for those nerds playing at home like me was a China versus Britain.

Oh, I reckon I know who came out on top. Basically, foreign powers. I'm sorry. He looked at me just looked at me like, oh, who? Do you? No. No. OPM, you? No. No. Opium, you know those brits.

I don't even know what opium is to be honest. Curly. Is it like heroin? It's like an earlier derivative, like an opioid. Oh, it's an opioid. Well, that clears everything up. It's just similar to like heroin. And it's really addictive, but you smoke it

through an opium pipe. Oh, an opium pipe. Now I get it. Thank you. Can you explain it to me more using the word opium? Right, so opium is bad. Okay. And a story.

But in terms of opium, what is opium? That's like asking, is it opium bad? It's not opium bad, but it's not opium good. Okay, I think I get it now. Are we in the right realm? Yeah. The opium bad? It's not opium bad, but it's not opium good. Okay, I think I get it now. Are we in the right realm? Yeah. The opium realm. To go on.

Basically foreign powers are making lots of money by selling Indian opium to Chinese people. And a lot of Chinese people were getting addicted. So the then ruling dynasty of China tried to step in and stop the trade. And Britain, it was making heaps of cash from selling opium, didn't like that. So they had a war over it.

Right. And then there was the second opium war. Never heard of the opium wars. Britain in France versus China. Oh. But that is another story, another opium based story. Okay. But that's not for now. This story...

That's an opium later. That's not for opium now. Sorry, I feel like that. For the following year in 1840, David Livingston moved to London to continue his medical studies. So his finally away... London. He's finally away from the cotton mill. Oh, all right. London. London. So basically, he's free from the Cottmill finally, he's in London. And whilst they, he met famous missionary and future father-in-law, Robert Moffert, who

has spent a lot of time in southern Africa. Moffert recognized living-stans abilities and convinced David that Africa would be a good place to go as a missionary instead of China, with an emphasis on the region north of the Kallahari Desert. I've heard of it. Please, just tell me whereabouts it is. Dave, we just don't have the time. Oh, because you're going to read out the exact coordinates.

Yeah, just doesn't want to patronize you mate. You know, a little bit of geography, but... You know where the Kalahari Desert is, mate. It's next to... You know where north of the Calahari does it? It's North. Where is the Calahari does it? Slightly North, there we are.

That's what our story is. Pretty sure. It's true. Yep. As are other things. Names one for me. Egypt. And pyramids. Cairo. Can't fault you there. Can I? Geoza. If you're eating it in Egypt. Egypt. Okay.

Through City's Heart, Heart on Africa now. By the end of the year, he was all dangerous and missionary. And by now, who was also a qualified medical doctor, he sits here for South Africa and a few months later arrived at Cape Town in March 1841. The year was 1841. It still counts in the 1800s. That's right, that decade. It won't wait for the 2040s. Oh man. Well, we'd be alive. Well, you'd be in your 50s, hopefully. That's going to be fun. All right, so we've left Scotland now, which is good. No more

Scottish dance, but now many more African names, which in many ways harder to pronounce. But we have a lot less African listeners to give a shit, so this is good stuff. this is good stuff. And we're also, we have diplomatic immunity. That'll get them back on side. He arrived in Northern South Africa, a place called Kuru Man in 1841. Now 28 years old Livingston Medys mentor Robert Moffert, and he also met Moffet's eldest daughter, Mary. Mary Moffet. Boom, yeah. Sad on her toffet. Mary Moffet.

Do they not think about names when they're back then? Well, you have so many kids, you don't have time. But the time you name one. Mary Moffet. Well, the time you name one, your wife's had two more. Well, my dad is the youngest of eight and his name is John, as you know, you've met my dad. But he also has a sister who has the female version of his name, so there's a John and a John.

Oh, I thought it was gonna be John Affine. That's not, that's just silly, Dave. Oh, okay, right, so Jess has decided there's no more silliness on this episode. When do I ever participate in silliness? Just doesn't do silliness. I am the Siri. Yes, one. That's why we love you.

You what? You keep us on track. She says no word. Is that the first time we've ever said it? On the record. I make you boys yell at me as we leave every time. Look in my eyes. Say it.

Yell it. Yell it in my eyes. Why into your eye? It helps. Sorry, do go on more silliness. So David and Mary Moffet would ultimately fall in love and get married. So now she's Mary Livingston's had a bit better. That's better. And they would set up their own mission stations. She was also born in Africa. Oh, to her English father. So she was an English citizen, but she was born in Africa and spent a lot of her life growing up there. So she was also on the same page as him wanting to explore and be a missionary. Awesome. Spread the gospel. I have not heard the word missionary this much since like you know and sex ed. And even then they just called it normal style.

Normal style. Okay, so you're doing it normal style. You're there, they're there. It's normal. It's normal, nothing weird. I still call it normal style. I don't fully understand how you can do it any other way, to be honest. Do you want to be abnormal?

Let's do an abnormal style. No, thank you. Sir, that's what I say. Being a missionary in Africa wasn't easy. The nomadic nature of the people that were trying to convert, or convert. Because we fight about words too much. Cartholiche. Cartholiche.

You're getting a lot of support for cartilage online, the last few weeks. I know. What is the price that the people of Queensland were wrong? What is the price? I'm with your Queensland. online. I've had a lot of last few weeks. And I was surprised that the people of Queensland were wrong. What was the prize? I'm with your Queensland. Yeah, that was great. Everyone in Brisbane. Most fun laugh show I've done in American. I'm just going to say that. I don't pick favorites. I do. And I also love them all. There was that, I mean that rant that just did that time was pretty great. Oh, that was a Melbourne. Against a certain Irwin. Well, that was Jess's, that was your highlight.

That was some of my best work. I was just speaking from the heart. Did you show out a show reel? It would just be that. Well. And it does have a show reel. And that's why we are yet to sign to any major record labels or do any films because they think we hate a certain ear when

don't wanna get it going. So anyway, the nomadic nature of the African people they're trying to convert, they were always on the move and often hard to track down to preach to. David decided that they needed to be more amongst the action and he moved the station 200 miles north to a very isolated place.

Perhaps best described as one of the most remote places on earth at the time. Wow. It was cut off from the South by the Calahari Desert, which was uncrossable for most of the year, because it's so, so hot, but Livingston didn't care about contact with the outside world. He wanted to get in contact with the locals so he could preach the word of God. Cool. There was supposedly more Africans to be found in this region, and this suited his purpose of spreading the gospel through, quote, native agents. So he figured if he could convert some locals, they would preach the gospel to other locals. Sure, I'm not scared.

It's basically... Classic Egypt. We in Egypt? Because we're north of the Calahari. Pyramids, I get it. I was like, I don't know, the same way we met. Oh, okay. I get it. I was like, oh, so we met. Oh, okay. I get it.

Oh, so I don't get it. The joke's too dumb. It's actually below my. I only get very sophisticated jokes. So I didn't really get what you were doing there. I mean, I get it now. I gotta lift. Yeah, at the lower your brain. I get it now,

but it's still not that lower it onto the desk. Funny. Hitting your head. Oh, I get it now. Lower it onto the desk. Missionary style. There was one problem with being isolated, though. It meant that it was very difficult to get supplies either in or out. So in order to establish a mission. that in or out. So in order to establish a mission. We love you in or out. That joke was over my I mean, this coming from the serious member of the podcast, I'll talk of mission area. Then you say in and out. It was very good day. Did you write that for the

most? And I also wrote this, there was one problem with being in that isolated there. It was very difficult to have sex with the supplies. You couldn't get them in or out of their butts. Yeah, I draw weird lines. Yeah, you really turn on me there. In order to properly establish a missionary station or a of it. I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm

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Made me love supply root from either the east coast or the West Coast that would be accessible or year round. And this is how a legendary explorer was born. Someone was born. That was it. David Livingston. Never heard of him. You presume.

By the summer of 1842, he had already gone farther north than any other European in the Father North. Is that what he called his father-in-law? They answered he called him to Farlock Christmas. Farther north. I bought this on Reveit in 1942, he'd already gone farther north than any other European in the difficult Kellehari desert, which is pretty impressive already, so as a missionary he didn't even mean to be explored at this time and he's already gone somewhere where

no Europeans ever gone before. He had familiarized himself with the local languages and the cultures. This was set him apart from others and also AD's exploration as he was able to communicate with the locals. He was a gifted linguist. He was also a very brave man and this was on show on an 1844. He was mauled by a lion when trying to defend a local village's livestock. What?

I know. He was mauled by a lion. Yeah. His left arm was severely injured, and he could never again support the barrel of a gun steadily with his left hand. And thus was obliged to fire from his left shoulder and take aim with his left eye.

That is tragic. Yeah. Losing... It's a common side effect from a lion attack. Losing some of the function your left hand is my personal nightmare. If that, honestly, that happened to you, Jess, you'd be stuffed. I'd be completely stuffed. How would you fire a gun?

I don't know, Dave, and I don't want to think about that. That is a true living nightmare. That is an absolute tragedy. I imagine that if I hear Mald by line, I think... Game over. Yeah, I think Game over for shooting with your right eye. Right. Minimum.

No, I think, yeah, you're probably dead. It's a one-eye minimum. I give one... I mean, I don't understand how either he didn't get very Mald at all. I'm gonna bit Mald. How do you get a bit Mald? The Lion got bored. Right, maybe it wasn't. Yeah,

it was just a playing playful line. Yeah. Well, what I haven't said, it was actually a line cub and he easily beat it to death with his own fists. So. Right. Well, that does, I mean, I would have. Is that true? That is absolutely untrue. It was a fully grown line. And somehow he fought it off, probably shot it. Just do what Mick Fanning did and just punch it in the mouth and the nose. do what Mick Fanning did and just punch it in the mouth in the nose. Remember when Mick Fanning was surfing and a line was swimming around him?

That was impressive. Remember? And we all felt sorry for Mick. Remember that episode of The Simpsons where I was like the, I was gonna say Rodney Dangerfield, but what's the, the um, what's the director's son?

No, yeah, but no, the Larry. Axel Evil. No, yeah, but no, um, the Larry, Axel evil, evil, carnival sort of character was going to jump over the, and they go as infested with sharks. The landsmurder landsmurder was jumping over the pool. The festival is shocked. Electric and electric yields and a real life line.

They push a line in and just get savage. I think the lines are just swimming in a whirlpool sort of. Anyway, it was a very funny, very old Simpsons reference that I just enjoyed. And now you two can. I also love that. Tormaclura educational video about the food chain. And it's a gorilla reaching for a bunch of bananas

and it falls and the sharks is comes up and it's a gorilla reaching for a bunch of bananas and it falls and the sharks comes up and eats a gorilla. Oh good times. Jess what's your favorite memory of the season? That's nature. That's just nature. That's just nature Dave. I love nature. So he survived a line attack. He's a great man. He's a tough man. Give him that Jess. All right stop trying to convince me. I already think he's amazing. Right. So in January 1845, after surviving the line attack, this is when he marries Mary Moffeat. Because he's got a new perspective now. He marries Mary Moffeat, yeah.

You know, once you've survived a line attack, it gives you a whole new perspective. And you're just like, you know what, life short, I'm gonna grab the line by the testies. Wow, that's figuratively. This is how he survived the attack. Mary, straight for the testies. Mary Moffe. Mary, Mary Moffe. Actually, he accompanied him on many of his early journeys.

They had four children together. And when they started to grow up, it was decided that Mary and the children would return to England for safety and to go to school. Sure, okay. It's a good thing that he found a passion for exploring because from all accounts, Dave was not a great missionary. In fact, despite the decades that he spent in Africa, he only ever converted one man to Christianity. That was accidental. That was the

that was confusion. He thought he was buying a happy meal. But he yet know he was converted to Christianity and I man did a lot of good stuff. Well, he did. That man was Jesus Christ. He converted Jesus. Well, he did, he did do a lot of great stuff because in 1849, after two years of patient persuasion, this is how long it took him to convince Wando, two years, he converted chief Sashayle, who was very dubious after only having one wife as opposed to the many that he was used to in his culture.

He didn't really understand why he would choose to do that. But he went along with it for a few months and then he lapsed and went back to his many, many wives. Lap's Christian, being there done that. So many wives. Many wives. And they have many, many wives. Have you had many, many wives? Have you had wives? Do you have men?

Well, I keep out living them, you know? Over the centuries. It's really sad to see them come and go. Are you some sort of vampire or something? I guess so, I don't know. I haven't really figured out what I'm meant to be. I mean what I am. Hmm. You is what you is. That was a confusing sentence. In the same year 1849, Livingston was recognized with a medal from the British Royal Geographical Society for being part of an expedition that led the men to be the first Europeans to see Lake Nagambi in northern Botswana. This was the beginning of his lifelong association with the Society, which continued to encourage his ambitions

as an explorer. Livingston's family, now back in Scotland, and he believed it was his mission to stay in Africa to push Christianity, commerce, and civilization. The Trinity that he believed was destined to open up Africa, the frontiers of South Africa and open up the heart of the continent. Something that no European had yet done. I sound like the Skulls are that good. Just leave Africa alone, man. His big hope, I'll let you judge the man

as we go through the rest of his life. But his big hope was to open up Africa for missionaries by mapping and navigating its rivers, which he thought might become highways into the interior. He's big into rivers and lakes as we'll discover later. He's big into him. So he's thinking, you know, we've got it so good in Scotland with all our great stuff. We want Africa to have such good things. Look at them, they don't even have any castles or locks or snow in the summer. Or iron brew or iron brew or kilts. Let's give them kilts.

Give them kilts. Number one, number two, iron brew. As Jess often says that, I've heard a few times. Number two, iron brew. As Jess often says that, I've heard you say a few times. Number two, Iron Brew. Hold the time. Number three, that's like a horrible way to describe your number two. Number three, call small people, we. Ha ha ha.

Small anything we. Good point, very good point. Not just people. That's a very good point. Small kisses away. Wee cup of tea. Wee cup of tea. That can get very confusing if they're not used to your culture.

Hassa. I have a refreshing Wee cup of tea. Okay, yeah. You enjoying your Wee cup of tea? What? I brought it with my piss. I'm pretty sure that's what I'm brought with. Interesting.

The biggest selling. Different cultures are so interesting. Fascinating. When I first played the state head in Scotland, had complimentary Iron Brew in the fridge. That's a complimentary. They treated it as like a form of orange juice, which I enjoy, the health drink of a nation.

And that's what they wanted to have to be like. What is iron, broo? Have you never had iron, broo? I think I have. Is that bright orange, like fizzy soft drink? Oh, is it like Lucas Aide here? Yeah, it's something like Lucas Aide. To me, it tastes, it's very, very sweet.

It's kind of like a creamy soda taste. Oh. But it's like more popular than Coca-Cola over there. Why is it called iron, broo, though? I-R-N-B-R-U-I-N-B-R-U. I don't know. Yeah, that answers the question. Why is it called iron brew?

I-R-N-B-R-U. Why is it called Coca-Cola? Did you just ask why is it called Coca-Cola? Because I did a whole fucking episode about that, and you didn't even listen. That was a long time ago. Coke is for Gary Coke, who co-invented it with Gary Cole. Thank you. Gary A played a little role, so he got squeezed in between. Thank you.

That is... I'm glad someone was listening, Jess. Sorry. Go back and listen. All right. It may have been when you're not ranting about Bindi, but you probably border up that episode.

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I shall open up a path into the interior or perish. Oh, wow. Parish. Parish. He probably spoke like that, like Sean Connery. The qualities and approaches with Gabe Livingston and Advantage as an explorer was that he usually travelled lightly and he had an ability to reassure chiefs that he was not a threat.

This was in stark comparison to many other expeditions of the time which had dozens of armed soldiers and hired help carrying supplies. These expeditions often scared locals and were mistaken as military incursions or slave-rating parties. So they won't welcome with open arms. But David, because he was able to talk to them and explain, he could also show that I can't even shoot with my left eye. Check this out. Don't worry about it. Harmless. I'm not a threat. I fought a lion. I kind of won. Want me to live. Is that winning you? Yeah. I reckon remaining alive. Is that was that winning? Yeah. I reckon remaining alive. Yeah. I'm going to call that a win.

The meaning of life is to remain alive. Yeah. Yeah. That's why Hillary Clinton won the US election this year in a way. In a way, she bloody lived through it. She saw a lot of energy. Yeah. Yes. At the time of recording Donald Trump also won. He's remained alive too. So the last also at the time of recording. Levinson had a much simpler approach to travel and only had a few servants and barred and collected his supplies along the way. I say servants, he's paying these people. He's paying these people. He's very anti-slavery, which we'll get to. He preached a Christian message but did not force it on unwilling years.

He understood the ways of local chiefs and successfully negotiated passage through their territory. It was often hospitably received and aided. In November 1853, Livingston set out north westward with little equipment and only a small party of Africans to travel with him. He laughed at the image of a party. Yeah. You just get me.

What does a small party? Yeah. You just get me. Does a small party. Yeah, just drinks. Kind of pretty drinks. Small party. That's what you tell your mom when you're doing. It's a gathering. I wouldn't even call it a party.

It's gathering. Suddenly 200 people rock up and they're kicking holes in your mom's bedroom wall. Dave. Dave. Did this happen? Oh, David. David. Mom.

You don't. There's no way 200 people would have turned up to your party. No way you need 200 people. There's no way I don't reckon you could have got 20. Once when I was, that is fucking true. Yeah, okay. I was very popular thing around my way. I was sure.

You were in a band with seven other people, a Skull band. Yeah, okay. So you invite the band and your halfway there. And all their group needs. Then they bring a friend each. One of, they're not there. Yeah, okay. So you invite the band and your halfway there. And all their grudges. Then they bring a friend each. They're not there for you, Dave. They're not fucking there for you. They're not fucking there for me. No, they're not. Out of my watch. Anyway, so he set out North West, little equipment. His hope was to find a route to the Atlantic coast on the west of Africa. We're all looking for a bloody road. So hope was to find a route to the Atlantic coast on the west of Africa. We're all looking for a bloody road. So he wanted to get to the ocean.

In the west of Africa. I hope that this could open up Africa to commercial activities that would undercut the slave trading that was still rampant during this time period. So slavery is illegal in England, but people are still especially Arabic slave traders are raiding Africa and enslaving people selling them. So it's a horrible time for Africans. Here's hope that he could create new commercial activity that would be more valuable than selling slaves, so people stop selling slaves. Right. I also hope to find a way to safely reach the Imacolo people who we hoped would be good for missionary work.

And by that, you mean normal work or? Yeah, normal work. Or we talk in sex work. I mean, he was hoping that he could preach the good word of God to them and that they'd become Christian. Right. Yeah, okay. It's quite confusing with the two meanings of missionary missionary there isn't that. It's very difficult. All right. Unless I wink, it's the

non-sex one. Okay. That is a good system. Oh, he's winking. Oh no, I'm in a permanent wink. Is that how you winked? I'm a terrible winker. I'm sure this has come up before. No, no. Yeah, he's a very weak. Matt, give us a wink Oh, I mean I hated it. It was very good. You asked for it I did Dave try to oh you're so you're not subtle at all Oh, you just look like you're having some sort of spasm It's bad. I don't control my eyes. Well, I don't sleep with my eyes shut. There's something wrong. Okay, pull the police I can't control my eyes After six months of grueling travel, Livingston reached Luanda, which is now the capital of Angola

in May 1834. I calculated his journey on Google Maps and he had traveled over 2,000 kilometers or 1,200 miles. This is through uncharted territory, through the desert, through the rainforest, through water, it was gruelling. He needed time to recuperate, because it was so bad for his body. But after three months, he started his return trip, which on the way back took almost 12 months,

so twice as long. But that wasn't enough for him, and he continued Westwood. And on May 28th, 56, he reached a place in Mozambique on the Indian Ocean, meaning he was one of the first Westerners to travel from one side of Africa all the way to the other. So he's taken off stuff left right in dinner. What's his chicken? Achievements. Fuck yeah. He's amazing. But one of his most famous personal discoveries was made on

the light and I say personal discovery because all these things were obviously discovered by he discovered within himself. The ability to yodel. Wow, you give us an example. The man of a thousand noises. Noise 189 yodeling. No, it's 189, yodeling. Lalalalalala. That was like Johnny Cash yodeling. That was awesome. That was amazing. The picture of Johnny Cash yodeling. What's the word that comes to mind?

Awesome. Awesome. A grade. Drunk. Drunk. Is he okay? Is he hitting the gear again? Probably.

Anyway, one of his most famous personal discoveries, because... Are the other one. Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Is he okay? Is he hitting the gear again? Probably. Anyway, one of his most famous personal discoveries because... Are the other one? Yeah, and I say personal discovery because all these things had been discovered by the first people, the African people, long time beforehand. Yes, there's jiggling. There's jiggling.

Oh, there's no wink, so it wasn't weird jiggling. It's just laughter. It met you. I mean, the wink system is going to be very difficult for those of you. Don't know. I'll feel it. You can hear it in the voice. Hear that? Oh, he probably did. I spoke, gross them. Do you hear that? Oh, ho, ho, ho. Yeah, she's winking. Oh, we made it worse somehow. For the third time, one of his most famous personal discoveries

was made on the last lake of his journey when he saw what the locals called mindfulness meditation. And the thing about mindfulness meditation is it's about practicing every day, three minutes, all you need. And he saw this. He discovered it. Personally. All right, lucky number four. Wow, that's big though.

Mindfulness and yodeling. And that was all in the same period. Alright, lucky number four. Wow, that's big though. Mindfulness and yodeling, and that was all in the same period. Well, for the Holy Trinity, this is the third discovery. This is a bit more tangible. Oh, that's interesting. What tangible than a yodel or mindfulness? What's more tangible than mindfulness? You're literally, I would have thought mindfulness is tangibility

personified in a human form, somehow. He saw what the locals called in their own languages, the smoke that thunders. That's mindfulness. Was it a cloud? Oh, yeah. He discovered a cloud. The smoke that thunders.

Yeah, that's a cloud. That's a cloud. It comes from a cloud. He that thunders. Yeah, that's a cloud. That's a cloud. It comes from a cloud. He sailed down... It's a poetic in their language. He sailed down the Zambezi River and could see and hear the smoke and thunder from miles away. He could see columns of spray rising to the sky.

And he was the first European person to see what is now world famous Victoria Falls. Oh. That he named after Queen Victoria. He named it. He named it the Victoria Falls. That's cool. Yeah, this is a very important man. Livington's men sailed his canoe to one of the small islands

right up to the lip of the falls. And you just was gonna love that. Oh, the lip. They, you did wink. What did you expect? It seemed as if they were going to go that. Oh, the lip. They, you did wink. What did you expect? It seemed as if they were going to go right over the edge. Levington felt distinctly uneasy, but recorded in his journal that quote,

I said nothing, believing I could face a difficulty as well as my guides. Pretty much, he trusted them. Luckily, he didn't go over the edge of the Victoria Falls, but he did lie on his stomach and he stayed into the abyss that is the falls. and they are full scale for overseas people, twice the size of Niagara Falls. Whoa.

So they're real. I never seen Niagara Falls, but I stream that big. But he's been to a pub just around the corner from it. Yeah. So the Niagara Falls play the... I've been to the Niagara Falls Inn, sure. Just in look out the window, which overlooks the falls themselves. Why would I?

I had a beautiful beer on tap. A beautiful range of beers. Aft beers. Yeah, the only fall I want to see is that beer falling into my mouth? You know what I mean? Oh, so you drink from a height? Yeah, bybacks. I only drink in laybacks on a banana lunch.

I mean, you haven't seen me drink? No, that is live-in. That is live-in. You've poured it into my face a few times. Yeah, but I had so many banana lands myself. I can't remember. Yeah, fake or? He cut his initials and the date in the bark of a tree on the island. He later described this as the only time I have been guilty of this

active vandalism. It's fine. He described Victoria Falls in his 1858 book, no one can imagine the beauty of the view from anything witnessed in England. It had never been seen before by European eyes, but scenes so lovely must have been gazed upon by angels in their flight. All right, man. Call me farm. It's a waterfall. It's literally water falling.

Yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's short, man. Sure, it's beautiful. Gorgeous. It's short, maybe the most beautiful thing you'll ever see. Sure, it seems heavenly. Sure, angels would gaze at it. But come on.

It's legit one of my dreams to go there. We'll wake up late. Wake up to yourself. I don't want to wake up. How am I going to fucking dream if I go there? Good point. Thank you. David returned to England on December 9th 1856 and now he was a national hero. News about him during the previous three years had stirred the imagination of English speaking people everywhere to an unprecedented degree. He recounted his explorations in the book, missionary travels and researchers in South Africa, which was up titled, getting around fucking. It was published in 1857. No, no fucking that too.. It was published in 1857.

No, no fucking. That too, subtitled. It was published in 1857 and sold 70,000 copies. At the time, this was a huge hit. His family had been living in poverty while he was away, and this sudden increase in wealth meant that he could now adequately provide for them. So things are looking up.

So he was galavarian in the world with a couple of servants all back home his family were living in poverty. This is your hero day. He was spreading the word of God. He was spreading the word of God. He was just me holding copies of his journal. Yeah. And Hagen. Oh, actually, yeah. It's just me holding copies of his journal. Yeah. And Hagen. Is that why you named yourself David? Yeah, I got to name myself.

Cool. Until the age of four I was. Jethro. Jethro Warnocky. Well, that was a great man. You fucked up. You fucked up. That's good stuff.

After touring Britain for six months for speaking engagements, which made him even more money, Livingston, I'd off his next adventure. He was encouraged by the response in Britain to his discoveries, and he now had monetary support for future expeditions flowing in. As a result, he resigned from the London Missionary Society in 1857 and dedicated his life to Dogey's style. I mean exploration. Yeah, Dogey's style this pretty exciting. Explorative. Whoa. Imagine that only for only very out there people do that. I'm not allowed to imagine. Oh, I don't want to. I'm getting all clammy hands just thinking about it.

I'm getting all clammy hands just thinking about it. Oh, no, thank you. The British government and the Royal Geographical Society agreed to fund the Livingston's next adventure and he became leader of the second Zambizi expedition. Zambizi is the river that flows into Victoria Falls. And the aim of the mission was to navigate the Zambzi from the coast upstream, back down to the falls, and examine the natural resources of South Easton Africa and open up the river. The second Zambezi? So the first one didn't go well.

We should call them two Beezies. I've been thinking about the whole time I didn't listen to the rest of the sentence. Did they call them two Beezies, Doug? I didn't, but they've regretted that for the rest of their lives. Two Beesys, and then they're little on their flag, said two Beesys. Two Beesys? Two Beesys. Two Beesys.

Ah, it's good stuff. The British government wanted to ascertain the economic potential of the area and sus out the possibility of establishing an English colony in Central Africa. This time, the expedition was infinitely better organized than Livingston's previous, almost solar journeys. It had a paddle steamer, impressive supplies. 10 African men, six European men, including his brother Charles and an Edinburgh doctor, John Kirk, to aid him.

From Anivis from Falkirk. Dr. John Falkirk. But it didn't go so well, and it turned out that Livingston wasn't that great of a leader. He was probably better suited to going solo and making an obviously one-on-one. Quarrels broke out amongst his party. Some men went home. Some got sick.

Some died. And it proved impossible to navigate the Zambezi by ship. Although all of his earlier success had resulted from listening to local knowledge that the people he encountered, he chose to blindly ignore all those who told him that he couldn't pass an area known as the Kabora Bassir Rapids. So basically these Kabora pass, it's these rapids that you can't get a ship up and he tries anyway and it sort of fucks up the ship and they keep trying and keep trying. You can't get a ship up. Oh, ship out. Well, that's what he kept saying. I can't get a ship out or a ship out.

The expedition was predicted to take about two years, but it ended up taking over six. Oh, no. Most of that time was spent along the final 250 miles of the Zambezi. Livingston refused to give up and the journey was extremely expensive, so they just kept throwing money at it and it just was not helping. Oh, no. Docky helps every problem, though. Well, like, just kept throwing money at it and it just wasn't not helping. Oh, no. Money helps every problem, though. Well, my motto. Dr. John Kirk, the expeditions medical officer and

botnist wrote of Livingston in his diary, which I love when people have diaries that bag out their leader, like, what if they read it? He wrote, I can come to know other conclusion that Dr. L Living Livingston, is out of his mind. His head is not of the ordinary construction, but what is termed cracked. Oh wow. Bloody hell. That's a solid burn. That is rock solid.

Cracked him. David's wife Mary was determined to join him back in Africa, but sadly, she caught malaria on the Zambezi River and she died. Oh, no. That, his elder son Robert, who was also supposed to join his father in 1863, never reached him and went instead to the United States where he died fighting for the North in the Civil War in December 1864. So it's not been a good year.

No, I would say 1864. Don't say good. Yeah. Okay. 1864. I don't remember that. Outer respect. Lock it off. We're retiring. Are the expedition that did lead them to be the first Europeans to find Lake Malawi, also known as Lake Niasa, which is the ninth largest lake in the world, which is home to more species of fish than any other lake. That's pretty cool. Bertus on fact, 700 species of fish. I love a sneaky fun fact in their days.

That's a lot of species of fish. Yeah, a lot of them are only found there. Right, and I hope it's not one of those bullshit ones where it's like, we've got the pink blue jet-a-yale. Right, the black slide-a-yale. Pink aqua jet-a-yale. And we've got the male pink blue aqua jet-a-yale. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Pink Aqua Jetta Eel. I'm like, I got the male pink blue aqua Jetta Eel.

Thanks again, I'm like, Jetta Eel, like that could be a thing. I hope it is. I'm like, I'm fuck, I hope it is so bad. That Eel's never hopes us. Real so bad. What's the whole thing?

That Eel's types of fish. Imagine. They were, they'd be fucking sick. This lake is home to over 700 species of fish match. They were that be fucking sick. This lake is home to over 700 species of eels. That'd be a real fuck like. What a nightmare. Speaking of nightmare, I don't want to bring the, bring it down here, but I will. Let me just also discover that the area who was exploring had been rocked in the bad sense.

I thought you two had started to travel through. I was going to say Robbie Williams. Both extremely cool current references. bad sense. I thought you two had trapped through. I was going to say Robbie Williams. Both extremely cool current references. Yeah, we're pretty cool at carrot. Any 15 year olds listening? Yes, we are cool. I guess what you're saying there is somehow that you two and Robbie Williams aren't cool current references. I was saying that they are cool current references. Cool, we're on the same page. Oh, we are very cool.

We're so simpatico. Now, let me entertain you with the rest of this report. Let's get a little elevation. Thank you. I've loved that reference. In this report, love has no name. That song we love has no name. Streets.

Well, this street, fuck, can't come back. I'm so sorry. Can we probably just edit it back and I'll be just the Robin Williams reference, Robbie Williams. So cool. You are digging so much deeper. Just get on with the report. All right.

Now this report has a bit of a rude box coming up. I'm asking you a Robbie Williams song that did not do well. From his album also, he's, it's listen to it you'll love it you know Paul McCartney had an album called I saw Paul McCartney last night you know we had an album called Kisses on the Bottom no an album did you play the whole up and now time to play kisses on the bottom cover he did he played a track off it he didn't mention the name I think it copped a lot Did he play the whole up? And now time to play. Kisses on the bottle. Covered a cover. He didn't play the track off it. He didn't mention the name.

I think it copped a lot of flak at the time. It was mainly a cover's album, and it was from a fat swallow song, Lyric, the first track on the album, which is fine that it's got a reason, but still why are you choosing that, Lyric. Kisses on the bottom. Everland about that is so cool.

Excellent. Excellent. KISSES ON THE BOTTOM. Ever than about that is so... SOOLS. KISSES. Hmm. Alright, back to the rocking. And the area had been rocked. Oh no. By human slavery. Dead bloated bodies floated downstream and became entangled in the pedal wheels of the pedal stick.

Oh. And one week he counted 19. Oh! Why'd you let us talk about Robbie Williams so long? Well, I can't cut you off and be like, look guys, it's not the time to talk about our idol. Robbie Williams. His expedition traveled on the shore until they found burned villages with skeletons and decimated starving people and they refused to go any further.

This was Livingston's first contact with large-scale human slavery and it was to set the course for the rest of his life. So it really upset him. The British government recalled the very expensive mission in 1863. Livingston, however, didn't immediately return home. He instead took his small vessel, the Lady Niasa, with a small untrained crew and little fuel on a hazardous journey of 2,500 miles or 4,000 kilometres across the Indian Ocean and left it for sale in Bombay in India. This is a little side mission. He can't be tamed. Lady Niasa. That's good name. There's anybody out there who is currently doing a bit of a fixer up project on a boat

and you can't quite think of a name. The Jess Freakance. Oh okay, I was going to have a lady Jessica. Lady Jessica. That's good. The lady Jessica's a nice. Thank you. I mean, it doesn't anyway describe you, but I just like, I like it.

I like it just think I like Non-humans having human names. Oh, I love like get Gary Indiana a place sure, okay, or a dog called Seymour or a boat called Jess Perkins. Yeah, it's good stuff All aboard the Jess Perkins. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop he, he, you think that's what I say? I like you just I mean you just sounded like that. Come on. Livingston faced a lot of criticism in the papers when you returned home. Mainly because he'd promised a lot from his journey and many of you did as a big failure.

Which in the short term with the goals he had set, maybe it was, but in the long term, he had amassed lots of data about a previously unwapped area. His expedition paved the way for the creation of the British Central Africa Protector at three decades later. So it did have its advantages and disadvantages. I'm just I'm feel so dubious about British guy coming into Africa and going, I'm going to fix everything. But you're telling me this guy is a good guy. Yes. Mainly because of the anti-slavery stuff. And Dave named himself after him. Oh, that's true. But, I mean, you know, Dave is very bad.

So. Is it van to name yourself after someone else? It's very bad. I suppose if you think he's a good person. Back in Britain in the summer of 1864, livingston with his brother Charles wrote his second book, Narrative of the next petition to the, with his brother Charles, wrote his second book, Narrative of the next petition to the Zambezi and his tributaries. Too long.

Too long, yeah. Call it Harry Potter. That's smart. And the goblet of Askerban, whatever. Livingston was advised at this time to have a surgical operation for the hemorrhoids that had travelled him since his first great African journey. He refused, and it's probable that severe bleeding hemorrhoids were the cause of his death at the end of his third and greatest African journey, which is brutal to imagine. He's fed to death out of his... Possibly.

Hemorrhoids are like big balls of blood in your butt, is that right? Samarit? No. I'm 100% across. It's something horrible to do with your butt, is that right? Oh, some are. No. No, I'm 100% across. It's something horrible to do with your butt. Yeah. That's all I know. In my medical school. That's all I want to know. Which brings us to our only for kisses on the bottom.

Mm-hmm. Kisses on the bottom, Paul. Oh, that was like the former gamey thing. Oh, this brings like the former game. This brings us to the part of the topic that James really wanted me to focus on, which is the quest for the Nile. Livingston returned to Africa for the final time in 1866. This time his mission was threefold. One, as usual, spread the Christian gospel to a bullish slavery in East Africa. And three, find the source of the Nile river.

Okay. So there's a small plan. Yes. Just a nice, easy, cheap one. An easy one, two, three. Easy as a basic. So basically, at this time, the Nile River is this amazingly long river in Africa, which I'm sure we all know. At this time. Now it's a, another shoelace company. Is that true? Nile shoelaces? Yes. Yes. Okay, let's go around and list our favorite shoelace companies.

What the Nile email? My favorite, they're the best. Yeah, it's mine too. I'll be surprised if you name anyone else today. Yeah, sorry. No one does it better. Vald Boots for eight years, and I just can't remember the last time I taught shoes.

Anyway, I'd address. So basically at this time, the Nile Riverile River and it still is but it's a really long river. Really? People debate whether the Amazon are just longer but anyway it's one of the longest two rivers in the world. That debate goes, that feels like something should be. Because people

argue about what you can count as part of the river because there's offshoots and all that kind of stuff but at this time no one knows where the Nile is coming from. They just they're just at the bottom part of it so they just want to they want to find out where it's coming from. That's a they're just at the bottom part of it. So they just want to, they want to find out where it's coming from.

That's a good point. I've never looked at a river and thought, where do you come from? What's the mouth? I just accept that there's a river. Gosh, that's a, that's the difference between you and David. Yeah, you're right. That's right, but you've got much better mindfulness in him.

Oh, yeah, my mindfulness is off. Chops. At this time, Livingston went without European subordinates and took only African and Asian followers. He thought that was the problem last time. But again, trouble broke out amongst his crew and he found it difficult to cope. Originally, he planned to avoid what was at the time

Portuguese territories. However, he went through them into avoid punishment, had to spread rumors that he was dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. He's dead. I hate this dude. He hate his own dude. Although it was proof of the following you

that he was still alive, a touch of drama was added to the reports, circulating back home about his expedition. So he told them he was dead and then that got back to England and Scotland and people were like, oh, he's fucking dead. I mean, he's got kids back in. Yeah.

That's mean. Whoops. One of the most remarkable things about David Livingston was his physical constitution as a man or as a person. This is a time before Q was for malaria, and people, especially Westerners, are dropping and dying left, right, and center from it. He did get sick a lot. Some put his malaria count as getting the potentially deadly disease 30 separate times.

How? Mosquitoes. Ah. But of course. But um, butterflies. And despite this and the fact that he thrashed his body across terrains and deserts that many thought impossible, he lived to be a respectable age for a healthy Victorian of the time, which is pretty impressive. Yeah, wow.

And maybe because he was a doctor and he knew how to care for himself a bit better than others, but still... Mindfulness. Mindfulness. Keep forgetting the Holy Trinity. Keep forgetting it. Never forget. Takes a little bit of time out of your day.

For you. Just kidding. And the idol. He was ill during his final journey, but still managed to make it farther west than any European before him. So another record. And he was the first white man to reach

a number of lakes, many more lakes. He had dysentery, pneumonia. Dysentery is a bad one. Oh yeah. It's like diarrhea. Lots of shit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It's like diarrhea. Lots of shit. No, no, that was on the shakurone episode, I think. They're all shit and thousands. It's very contagious too. So one person, you've all got a dysentery now. So dysentery pneumonia and developed tropical

ulcers on his feet that made it almost impossible to move and he had to rest for three months. They're tropical, that's fun. Three months. It smell like pinnacleitis. Yeah, your feet smell like pinnacleitis. Oh, it's something. Yeah. That's a little silver lining. You just put your feet up on an ottoman empire and I sound like you can just hear kettle

drums. Wow. That's great. No wonder he put his feet up. Yeah, he would do. Wouldn't he? Stranger than he thought he was going insane at the time. Yeah.

Put your feet up. You can see your kettle drums. They are fun instruments. He was the first white man that the locals in this part of Africa had ever seen. And he reportedly had to eat his meals in a roped off area to quell their curiosity. They kept coming up to him and wanting to see him and like a velvet rope. He's like a celebrity. He's in a VIP area. It's all that I imagine. He's in a VIP area.

Please know for us. That's awesome. I'm trying to eat. And they're like, your feet smell divine. What is that music? What are those skills? Try amazing. An event that's guarded for the last few years of his life occurred on 15th, on the 15th of July 1871,

when he witnessed around 400 Africans being massacred by slave traders on the banks of the, who were Lava River, many women and children were also killed. This massacre horrified Livingston, leaving him too shattered to continuous mission to find the source of the Nile for many months.

We had to have another break. That's what really- Put his fate up from it. Really affected him psychologically. Livingston completely lost contact with the outside world for six years, and he was ill for most of the last four years of his life. Only, so he was sending letters,

but only one of his 44 letter dispatches made it to Zanzibar. So there was much speculation, particularly back in Britain, that he was dead. So Welsh-born American journalist and explorer Henry Morton Stanley had been sent to find Livingston by the New York Harold newspaper in 1869. Stanley, I'm sending out a mission, see?

I couldn't be, no, please, give me more. Give me more, I want more. But is it gonna be dangerous boss? I'm not a puppet David. I'm not gonna just Try and be funny on your podcast on a whim David. That's funny. I caught him David Do you calm David? real fun I got him David. Do you come David? Mm-hmm. Real fun. After eight months of searching, Henry Morton Stanley found Livingston

in the town of VueGG in Western Tanzania on the shores of Lake Tanganyika on the 10th of November 1871. One of Livingston's servants, Susie came running at the top speed of 42 kilometers an hour. He was running at six knots. I'll try again for everyone home. One of Livingston's servants Susie came running at the top of his speed and

Gasped out an Englishman. Whoa an Englishman. I see him and Then they darted off to meet him the American flag at the head of the caravan told of the nationality of the stranger Stanley greeted him with a now extremely famous line. A mighty, Adiablaadidu dae. Dr. Livingston, I presume? That's a real thing. That's true. Livingston responded, yes, which is an incredibly proper English line. Yeah, he should've said, woo-ee.

No, like Dr. Livingston, I presume. So you've been searching with this guy that many people think is dead throughout, like the middle of fucking no over eight months, and you're still so proper that you go, Dr. Livingston, I presume. Don't you reckon he, what he said was, holy fuck, is this for real?

Is it really you, Dr. Livingston? Hey, and when you document this moment, can you make me sound real cool? He's had a long time to think about what he's gonna say. Also, and when you document this moment, you make me sound real cool. He's had a long time to think about what he's going to say. Also, it's a bit like the Neil Armstrong on that moon. Yeah. So it's an amazing line. It's going down in history as a very famous quote, people debate about whether it actually

happened. Yeah, definitely. We just did it that way. You just saw that happen right in front of you. But many people. Oh, many people. Okay, I'm not many people of a certain. Sally brought much needed food and medicine and Livingston soon recovered. He joined Stanley and exploring the northern reaches of the lake, Lake Tanganyika, and then

accompanied him 200 miles eastward. I'll never just on an adventure together. It's like a little montage in the maybe. That brings us beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful time. But he refused all of Stanley's pleas to leave Africa with him and come home. And on the 14th of March 1872, Stanley departed for England to report his fantastic story to the world. So he reported that he said, Dr. Lufan, I appreciate you. Yes. There weren't any... Sass twins disagree.

There weren't many other journalists to confirm or deny the moment. Well, there's nobody else there. I don't believe a thing Stanley says from now on. Stanley sounds like, oh, I bet you do exist. Yeah, Stanley's a figman. He's made himself up. Yeah.

It's the end of making him up. Oh, he's one of gallon turd children's book she This is making up stories what a weird way to get in yeah, it's children's books via making shit up Actually, that's probably the way to get invented media ethics after this event right There's a different time Dave wants to go on go go on. Now the final part of the story is Livingston again moved south still obsessed by his quest for the Nile and the source of this amazing river and his desire for the destruction of the slave trade. His belief was that if he could solve the age-old mystery of where the source of the Nile is. His fame would give him enough influence to end the East African Arab Swahili slave trade. Possibly misguided, possibly a little bit crazy, but that was his reasoning.

A lot of confidence in himself there. But also in the fact that, yeah, whatever. Oh, now you know where a thing happens. Well, what do you want us to do with the wars and stuff? Finishing? Great. What else? I have heard it described as what the Victorians knew about Africa. It's so fascinating to them because no one really knows what's going on in the middle of the continent. And Toto hasn't written that song yet. That's right. They know nothing of the reins.

You're talking about hold the line Always No, was that Jose? Jose Rose Yeah, I never knew that it could like you would ever say something No, I don't know why I ever do that and then hope you edit it out ever says something, moves in there. Oh, fuck. I don't know why I ever do that.

And then hope you added that in probably. I'm finding the Lua La Barriva, Livingston must stakingly concluded that he was the high part of the Nile River, which was wrong. Oh, bump out. But before he could find out, and that was his big theory, his big hunch, but before he could find it, if he was indeed right, his illness finally overcame him.

In May 1873 at Chautambo and what is now Northern Zambia, Livingston's African servants found him dead, kneeling by his bedside as if he was in prayer. He was 60 years old. He did a lot in 60 years. Dave, this is going to annoy you guys potentially, but you know what else happened in 1973? The St. Kilda football club was formed. Oh, wow. So maybe he died and came back reincarnated as the St. Kilda football club. You're a beloved team. Imagine.

Jess is trying hard to imagine. Look at her. She really, she can't. She just can't do it. It doesn't have the brain power. At this time or not. Good save. So sadly he has passed on, but his body,

in order to embalm it, they removed his heart. Oh, no, not embalming. Oh, it better exhaust. They removed his heart, removed his heart, they buried it in African soil. So his heart is literally still in Africa. Oh, right. In a difficult journey.

Is that because of some sort of a vampire scenario? Not sure what's going on. Where you got to bury parts from in different areas otherwise they'll reform and go on a killing spree. It still could happen. Imagine packing his ass, because he died of hemorrhoids. Oh.

If you haven't heard the very old cremation episode, that's gonna sound insane. Imagine packing his hemorrhoid filled ass. Anyway, don't do go on, no explanation that's to reach. You should really listen to the episode. If packing asses, who's your thing? Is your thing.

Packing corpse asses. Kedavis. What a vehicle. Kedava. Kedava. Kedasa. They carried, this is a son of respect to him. They, of the man, they carried his Kedava

in a difficult journey that took nine months all the way to the coast. Oh, it feels like it could be fucking horrible. It smells. That's why they packed his ass real good. It was taken to England and in a great Victorian funeral he was buried in Westminster Abbey on the 18th of April 1874 obviously and extremely high on up. Yeah, that's amazing. You know, a lot of kings, you know most kings and queens are buried there. That's where the poet's corner is or whatever. The poet's corner with Charles Dickens and for those kind of thing. So you can see David Livingston uh body. Well not his body. I mean it didn't go well. The nine months it didn't. It doesn't

look good. Yeah. And 150 years have passed passed. The last journals of David Livingston were published in the same year. So he's funnel, he's funnel book. He left behind a large legacy and is one of the giants of the Victorian era. In his three decades of travel, it is, he's a giant. I was thinking that as well. I was thinking that I'm like, he never be just always picture and really average side. How do you think he went where no one went before? He's what his, his death is about six times more than you were else.

Bosh, bosh. God, his noise is a good idea. What number was that? That's 1773. How many do I have? A thousand. 17. It's both three. A thousand. 17. It's both three. A thousand.

17. Fuck. We're nearly there, everyone. 1,000 noises? A million of 1,000 noises. I've undersold it. So he's a giant. Literally, figured literally. Disco with that.

Any three decades of travel, it is arguable that Livingston May, well, have influenced Western attitudes towards Africa more than any other individual before him. His discoveries, geographic, technical, medical, and social are still being explored in certain ways. Within 50 years of his death, for better or worse, colonial rule was established in Africa, and white settlement was encouraged to extend further into the interior. However, what Livingston envisaged for colonies was not of what we now know as colonial rule, but of settlements dedicated to Christian Europeans who would live among the people to help them work out ways of living that did not involve slavery. So he had probably better ideals than what ended up happening. And as a slavery, Livingston fought against it. Although from time to time he did have to engage with Arab slave traders to get around,

he didn't actually use slaves himself. He did bring attention to the ongoing slavery crisis in his letters, books and journals, and it stirred up public support for the final abolition of slavery. The British government put pressure on the Sultan of Zanzibar and he closed the slave trade in 1873 just six weeks after Livingston died. This ended the legal trade in slaves on the east coast of Africa. And because of this, out of the explorers of Africa, Livingston is still the most revered and still loved by locals in Africa. Many of the others have had their statues torn down and like history looks upon them very badly, but he is still widely celebrated across the continent.

Awesome. So because of his advocacy of the slave trade, so bringing attention to it. His adventures did come at a cost though. His only regret was that he didn't spend more time with his family. He was married to his wife Mary for 17 years, but they only lived together for four of those years. And he didn't see much of his children grow up. That sounds bloody ordeal to me, my totally a bloody,

bloody card, live with them, send them to England, eh? Send them to England. As the saying goes. Has that famous African saying goes? Yeah, it's just, it's just there. I mean, every relationship is different. And Mary and David go by the four years on, 13 years off. Four years on in the last 13 off.

Well, no, they didn't know it was going to be the last to their day. They did it on another four. Yeah, nothing you've said. The next year was going to be the last of their day. They did it to another four. Yeah, nothing you said. The next year was going to be in... Back on. Another four. That was why I was so heartbroken.

It was so close. But soothing Mary's broken heart was the fact that it was a really dead football club. The same killed her saints, not yet known as the saints, formed that year. But Jess said early in this, and I'm some reason committed to it anyway, she was already dead. Yes, she had died about 20 years earlier. Just let the better joke live, unlike Mary. Well, in fairness, she'd be dead now anyway, so it's okay.

In 2002, David Livingston was named among the 100 greatest Britons following a UK wide vote. That's cool. There you go. Up there with Elton John, Robbie Williams. And it seems to me to live like a candle in the wind. Classic. Final two facts about him. A lot of stuff is named after David Livingston. Including? He didn't name that much himself. He would always often name things about his queen when Victoria, such as Lake Victoria, Victoria Falls. But Blantire in Malawi is named after David Livingston's Scottish hometown. So, Plantire. Plantire. You definitely say that wrong.

How would you say that? I mean, I wouldn't. Look, I'm saying I wouldn't. I'm saying it how the people from Malawi say it. Right. I looked up that. So you Scottish people can fuck off because I am a man of Malawi. We're always a bit about you, Dave.

Do you, Dave? You know, I've got a Scottish surname. Well, you know, I've got a Malau in these. Don't know how to say that. Don't know. Really crumbles out there from underneath, yeah. And finally, the city of Livingston in Zambia, which is right on the border of Zambia and Zimbabwe, where Victoria falls is, is still named Livingston.

Oh, that's nice. This is your whole city named up. The city Livingston is still named Livingston. That's right. That is fun. I didn't say it was fun fact. I think it's fun. I think that was fun fact.

I did say it was fun. I did say it was fun fact. I said it. You. I think that was fun. I did say it was fun. I did say it. I said it. You've written it down. It said fun fact on the night. I've been reading along the whole time. The whole time. But that was the story of David Livingston. David Warnicky. That was an excellent story. Well, thank you. Because in many ways, not a perfect man, but in many ways, a remarkable man. Thank you. Well, you don't have to stand up.

OK. They didn't stand up. Because we didn't have to. You said so. And thank you to James Roy for suggesting that as a topic. Thanks James Roy. Jim James Roy. Jim and James. What a fascinating life. It's amazing isn't it? Yeah. It kind of makes me want to get out there and do a bit more adventuring, but more traveling. but at the same time if I Did even a day of what he did I'd die

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All the way to the bank. Wow. That's awesome. Can someone please give us that? I'd go full time. I can. You give up any other work? Maybe you're making 50 million a month. Yeah. I mean after fees it's only like 49.99 million a month. I'm just not sure I could give up my call center job. You just attached. That's just my main passion. Is your calling? Oh, fuck, that's good. That's just my main passion. Is your calling?

Oh, fuck, that's good. Thank you. Hey, can I start with the patrons? Yeah, we're going to thank a few people now. Now, what should we give to them? Yeah, sometimes. The gift of life. All right.

Okay, let's just say they were lost in the jungle for six years. Yeah. And you saw them. What would you say? Oh, Dr. Livingston, I presume. Very good. Okay. Great. Well, I would like to start off with someone from a beautiful area north of here. Kofs Harbour. The big banana. Big banana. I would like to thank the big banana I presume. Okay. That's what Dave is going to say to Owen Ledner. The big banana I presume. Okay, that's what David's gonna say to Owen Ledner. Oh, the big good honor, I presume. Oh, that's good.

And he says, yes. Yeah, cool. One more time with a beautiful name there. Owen Ledner. Oh, that's good stuff. It's good, isn't it? It's poetry. I like that.

Okay, and the other person that we'd like to think as well is David James. That's my first two names. Are you going to thank me? Yes, I support the person. David James Gaskell. From Liverpool. Oh, Liverpool. That's good.

The fifth beat, oh, like, Prususe. Oh, very good. You are good at this. Good job, Dave, because sometimes you suck at this. Look, you're setting him you have a failure over the next four. I didn't mean to, but genuinely, great stuff so far. I might keep up the good work.

Did I already say I saw PomerCone last time? I can't remember. He did. He was so good right, and he's one of the Beatles, Dave. You presume. And he told so many good stories. He told us one story, he's like, it's a man, John, yeah, we're walking down the street, you know, and this car comes by.

And there's, there's a couple of guys in the car, we have a look, and it's, you know, it's a key throats, it's Mick Jagger, you know, and they go in the same way as us. So we get in the car, you know, and we go up to this pub, you know, whatever. And they're like, we're looking for, you know, we want a single, you know, we're looking to record an album and we go, we've got a song and here it is. And anyway, this is the song that we played. It was their first hit and it was an album track for us. It's, I want to be a man. Just with a whole night was just these six, these six stories.

Name drops. Well, I mean, it wasn't all. No, he was just fucking name dropping. But then he was just saying names. Rihanna. I've met the Queen. He didn't, he played the song we did with Rihanna, but he didn't name drop.

We didn't even mention her or Kanye. I'm like, I definitely would have gone, here's a song I made with Rihanna and Kanye. Would you really think that he would mention those two when out of all the actual cool people he's met? Oh, oh. Pop that Kanye, you prick. I reckon before playing that song, I reckon before playing that song definitely.

Good chain, I like that song. I think I'm not good. I'm just, I'm still in that, I'm in that battle bubble. I just had such a good time. Get him out. There were fireworks during living that die. No. Live and let die.

Baaah. Baaah. Yeah, that's sick. Did you do blackboard? Oh God. Teeze. Live and let die. BAAA! BAAA! Yeah, that's sick. Did you do Blackbird? You did Blackbird and it was so good. Oh, God, tears. Blackbird, yeah, they were two of the big hearts.

He played something as well. No. Yeah, it's like a tribute to George. So, yeah, fifth beat, I'll presume. I really, I was, I think I flipped in at John now. I was trying to do Paul, but I think I was doing more John. I love it. Can I, can I think you can go on John now I was trying to do Paul but I think I was doing more John I loved it. Could I could I think I love that I'd love to thank Philip Boothby from the affluent east of Melbourne in Hawthorne Oh rich man I presume

Newer I live man. God you are good at this I look I just get my own people you know They love being reminded how rich they are. They do. I really like the name Philip Boothby. Do you walk into your local cafe and say, I'm wealthy. Do you do that?

Doesn't have to, because everyone in Wobbsen are cafes. Yeah, you actually have to. I am also wealthy. You have to declare of your poor, because it's the only point of difference. Interesting. Do you think Philip Boothby would mind

if I called him Philly Boo? I love it. I love that too. Philly Boo, I presume. He must be God. I'd also, this guy lives in maybe the coolest sounding non-Garry Indiana City in America. Let's start the list. Peachland, North Carolina. Quick fun fact, though. North Carolina is actually where Michael Jordan played high school college basketball, right? And he wore his college shorts a whole time through his MBA career underneath his Chicago Bull Shorts.

That's a little fact I learned from a movie called Space Jam. Bugs money I prostitute. So Joshua Cabrera from Peachland North Carolina, Peachland. Peachland. That is. That sounds like a Mario Brothers world. Peachland. Is that real? Peachland. I'm going to have to probably Peachland. It would be Peachland as well. Sorry, Peach Land. Is that real? Peach Land, I love it. I'm gonna have to. Probably Peach Land. It would be Peach Land as well. Sorry, Peach Land. Peach Land, that and see. Peach Land.

Peach Land. It's like a shopping center in Melbourne. Peach Land. So, we get all our peaches. Pooches. They do. What do you gotta get your poaches? I gotta, I gotta.

I gotta poach land. I gotta poach land. I gotta get my poach snaps there. Get my peach peaches. I got a, I got a, I got a, I got a pooch-lay. I got a pooch-lay, I got my pooch-snaps-layer, get my poach-peaches, I get my poach potatoes, get my peach-tail. Peach-spelling shampoo. Peach-tail. Peach-tail. Peach-tail.

Peach-tail. It's good stuff. No, no, no, no, no. So sorry to say that in your name. Joshua Cabrera, I got two sick names out. Can I call, would you do you guys think if he would mind if I called him Joshy cab Just try it. It would mind wouldn't it Joshy cab didn't work. Dr. Pete

Josh cabbie Just call him Josh Josh. Right Doesn't I have to be cute Josh? I'm just gonna call you Josh. I I got a couple here and I'm gonna give one to Jess and one to Matt Quick no, cuz that's how you at We still talk about it today Just can't die Well stuff stuff

I wish. Well, that was good stuff. Good stuff. All right. I'll let Matt go first. Matt, I would like to thank from Bolcom Hills in New South Wales. Alex Adair. Thank you.

Alex Adair. Fred Astaire. I presume? No, yeah, no, just a little bit. Wait, not good at this. Dave, what would you say there? Bolking up for stereo, I presume, no, yeah, no, just a little bit. Why not good at this, Dave? What would you say there? Boking up for stereo, I presume. Boking meals.

Bok meals. Stereo is a big festival. Oh, he's good. Where people get really rided up. All right, come on Dave. Go six for six. All right, finally. And this one.

Is that math, right? Yes. I've left this for last because this man is from Glasgow. So I'd like to apologize for all the Scottish mistakes and calling them fucks or something earlier. I love you all. Genuinely, one of the most beautiful places I've ever been in Scotland.

But from Glasgow, which remember, it's very close to where David Livingston was born. So I, and also Birkenhead from around there. Were they so in there? Well, they were Irish born, but then they moved in. That's right. Which is not that far. Which is very close.

It's a short train. Took that ride. To the pub. I would like to thank Danny Murray. You've got something here, don't you? I don't have anything here. You do. You've started a bit. I've been living for it. Look at that little smirk on his face. He's fucking got something here, don't you? I don't have anything here. You do, you son of a bitch.

I'm reaching for it. Look at that little smirk on his face. He's fucking got something. He was searching for the source of the Murray River. I pressed you. Murray River is a big, big river. One of our big rivers, mate. Oh, he's good.

Well done, Dave. Thank you so much. And thank you to Danny Murray. And to everyone that supports the show at patreon.com genuinely makes a big difference in our lives. Huge. And in the production of the show so we appreciate that. And it is that special time of you. We've already had our Krishmisch special earlier in the month but it is coming up to this Monday so if you do celebrate Christmas or anything around the festive season, we'd like to wish you a beautiful, beautiful time.

Beautiful time. Beautiful time. We eat too much. We eat too much. And families. Have it with families. I can spend it with multiple families, I think. That's what I recommend.

And this is our second last episode for the year. But don't worry, we're not going to be taking any time after. That's cool. There will be a Christmas related bonus episode for the Patreon listeners coming up probably now-ish as well, or before, it's probably already out actually. Oh, that's very, very nice. We haven't recorded it yet now. Go check your Christmas Christmas stockings. It won't be in there, that's impossible, it'll be on the internet, in the usual place. Yeah, that's right, that's absolutely right. But yes, we hope you have a beautiful and safe time.

We always love getting your last year. I got a lot of tweets aimed at me over Christmas because I was going to have salmon and salad for my Christmas lunch. That's right. And people from all over the world sent me a photo of their, they were having Mexican burritos and all and like, Roast and England, all this kind of stuff. So, it was really fun. So, if you want to send us photos of your all Christmas Christmas lunch again, I really enjoyed it. So, please do it again.

That's awesome. Someone sent us a video of them throwing their Christmas tree out the front door, as I like to do traditionally. That was actually so. Love Christmas so much until Boxing Day, then I can fuck off. Get it out of my house. A couple of our little traditions here at the airport, you have your own make your own make your own, but thanks so much guys I have a Merry Christmas and we'll see you next week or you'll hear from us next week

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