Do Go On - 12 - McDonald's

Episode Date: January 12, 2016

How much do you know about the history of those infamous golden arches? Well this week Jess will subliminally make you stop for a cheeseburger on the way home as she explores the history of one of the most successful fast food chains on the planet! Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Gold records. What am I talking about? I'm here with Jess Perkins, hello, Golden Jess. Oh, that's the best nickname I've had so far. Oh no, you've had a few shuckers there, huh? Are you going well? I'm going very well, thank you. How are you guys? We are, Matt, are we good? I'm pretty good. I'm going to speak Are you going well? I'm going very well, thank you. How are you guys?

We are, Matt, are we good? I'm pretty good, yeah. I'm going to speak for you. Yeah, I'm pretty good. He's told you off in the past for speaking on his path. Yeah, that's right. I'll do that every year. I will not do that again.

I'll tell you what who's going to be doing most of the speaking this episode, that is you, Jess Perkins, because we take it in turns to write a little report on this little comedy podcast about something that we find interesting and then try and regale the other two people and hopefully you the listener as well and it is your turn yes to talk the talk walk the walk, squawk the squawk and I don't mean to pull back the curtain too much but I feel a little under prepared this time, but everything's gonna be a-okay. So in comparison to your three previous reports,

how are you feeling? Look, this time, just kind of thinking, oh, maybe we could have spent a little more time on this. But it's fine, everything will be fine. No, it's all about confidence, and it's gonna be absolutely fine. Chalk the Chalk. Is another one? Thanks, Matt. That's what he's been doing.

He's, I looked at him just before as I was talking, his face was blank. And I didn't know where he was. And he was just trying to think of other things. You're trying to think of any word that rhymed with, doke the doke? What? Yeah, right?

Yeah, that makes sense. Take me to these words that, yeah, rhyme with talk. Did you say stalk the stalk? No, but we can, That's one that actually works. You're like hunting one of them birds with the babies. Thank you for that. Oh, righty. Who is specific comment that you met?

A bird with a baby. Are we all together now? Are we here? Is there any birds in this report? No. Well, in a way, I guess. Oh, is that about the band of the Eagles? It is, no it's not.

I'm happy if I guessed it by accident. That'd be pretty cool. It's about the stalk. Well, we usually start with a little question to lead into the report. Yes. And are you feeling it off air a bit dubious about your question, have you? I feel like it's going to be too obvious i'm just going to make it kind of a bit more broad right so

Matt Matt looks like you're still trying to think of words that rhyme spork the spork you know spoon fork how's so close to getting that one cork the cork um and he's good he is good mohawk the mohawk I'm going a bit out there now. I'm going to play the game. You just get off. Please, but do go on I do. And Matt let's try and try to concentrate on the report rather than in the words that run with walk. Okay. Okay. But you can have one more over the next hour.

Oh, okay. One wasted. I promise. Do try to pay a little bit of attention as well. Okay, so the question is, what would you say is the most popular or successful restaurant in the world? Popular or successful restaurant? Well, clearly La Poquetta. Obviously. Italian Italian. That's a way to talk you about it. I'm not talking about La Poquetta. La Poquetta. La Poquetta. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, La Poquetta.

Hey. La Poquetta. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No, I think you just have your story. Is that a... I can't believe it. I don't know many of the words.

I'm not sure how national or international La Poquetta is, so it's just having a stroke. I can't remember. That's the jingle. I don't know many of the words. I'm not sure how national or international La Poquette are so it's like quite a family friendly. La Poquette means the red door. No, it does not. It's quite a family friendly. La Poquette means the? Family restaurant. Poquette.

Correct. Alright. I've done really long ways. It's not La Poquette. Family restaurant. Poor catta. Correct. All right. I've done really long ways. It's not Wapel Catta. OK, let's move on. It's got to be, is it a fast food place? Is it Mickey D?

It is Mickey D. Is it McDonald's? It's talking about McDonald's. OK, well great. Right, me too. It's one of those things where I think we've said this in the past. It's one of those topics where I think we've said this in the past. It's one of those topics where you think you know a lot, but in actually looking at it, I didn't know much. Probably for the best, but. Oh really, it's one of these eye-opening reports.

No, not really. It's interesting in a way. From like a business point of view, it's quite impressive, but I don't want to praise the challenge. Which is, this show is all about business, too, isn't it? Totally. So we'll be very impressed. There's a little comedy trivia business podcast of ours. All right, here's what I know. Junior burgers, big Macs. Cheeseburgers.

Oh, if he fucked it. I was trying to get through all the things I knew. Oh, sorry. Now I don't know if I knew cheeseburgers or if it, I don't know. I don't know if that was my brain. I know I know it's it's confusing Happy meals Slurpees nope oh well they do the frozen cakes I guess I got a slurpee though Jackie Chan that's nope

We don't talk about Jackie Chan Phoenix Suns all right Johnson and friends. I'm really worried about him No, it's been quite hot the last week. Is it gone to your head? Potatoes are used in the thick shakes. The fact that Australian beef is just a branding thing, not really Australian, but these are the mythpits. Okay. There's one in a train in Cheltenham. There's one at what? I think there's a train McDonald somewhere.

What? Maybe in Chutton. Inside of a matcha. I have one made that up. Oh that would have made, you know what? Now I regret not looking up like weird places with McDonalds of Bain, but there are some weird ones. The theme is McDonalds.

Oh, like in Richie Rich's house? Yes. And as a kid you were like, oh sick. Now I definitely don't want this to be an ad for McDonalds. Right. Because the food is shithouse. It is, like it is. It's addictive shithouse, but it is.

In Australia they've just tapied all day breakfast. Oh, mama. Because I can have hash browns any time of the day. Well, I'm going to have to balance you guys out because it feels like you're slipping into the advertorial. Yes, so we won't be doing that. Which we're not allowed to do on this podcast where we answer to literally fucking no one. Yeah, we can won't be doing that we would which we're not allowed to do on this podcast where we answer to literally

Fucking no one. Yeah, we can do whatever we want. I just don't I'm just making it very clear There will be no subliminal messages big Mac big Mac big Mac big Mac big Mac. Who said that? Hmm, who said what Dave? I'm hungry for You want to get something to eat after the podcast? Just balance it out and talk about how good KFC days. Yeah. No, please, McDonald's, I don't really know. I feel like how long has been around, but I know, yeah, I would totally agree that it is the most, probably in my opinion, successful restaurant chain. Hmm.

It's pretty popular. So I believe fact that there are more subways in the world than McDonald's. Oh. I did not know that. I did not know that. Hey, Jess, can I ask you this question? Of course you can, mate. in the world and McDonald's. They did not know that. Hey, Jess, can I ask you this question? Of course you can, Matt.

I think Dave might have written it for a trivia night. Has there ever been a conflict between two countries that have McDonald's stores? So there's this rumor, I don't know if you came across this, that countries, it's like a capitalism thing. Countries with McDonald's have never been to war with each other But it's it's not true. Yeah, they can't possibly the state of Georgia and Russia It's happened to fly according to Dave. That's right. I can't remember the other other example to be honest But what about the world was I

Think currently because they didn't at the time. Oh, yes It's not retroactive, it's not like. Oh no, I was also thinking that. Stop because France and England fought in the 100 years war, 200, I mean, like a thousand years ago that accounts yet. I was also thinking that McDonald's opened much earlier than it did.

I was going to worry. I'm not worried, I thought you were thinking. Well, that was going to be another thing that I hope that we discover. I don't know how long it's been around. Well, that's... So please, 1932. No. So, there are these two brothers and I've just realized I don't have their first names here for some reason.

The McDonald's brothers. Oh, so it is rooted in a family name? Yeah, it really is. So in the late 20s, the two brothers moved to California, where they opened their first hot dog stand. It was pretty close. The late 20s and 1932 was pretty close. Pretty close, the late 20s. Well done. Actually, do you know what they opened their hot dog stand

in 1937? So, not bad. What? Lay off. But a hot dog stand. Yeah, I shimmed it was the biggest stand. And that's a product that I've done, I know a lot of me don't know it's have different things worldwide, but I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I don't think I've seen a the burger store and all the gas. And that's a product that I've done. I know a lot of me have done on this have different things worldwide, but I've never seen it.

I don't think I've seen a hot dog either. So it was kind of one of those typical driving places of the era where you park your cars and the car hop. So the waitresses on the streets or waitresses would come to the car. It was kind of a hot dog stand. I've never experienced that. I'd like to know. It's not around now, but well. There are a lot of all the blades.

I've had people approach me when I'm driving, but usually I wind the wind up up, I've had terror. Say no, thank you. So this is sort of like a timeline. I've got a timeline, firstly, to sort of go through. And it starts a little, not slow, but just starts with like a timeline. I've got a timeline firstly to sort of go through. And it starts a little, not slow, but it just starts with like a basic, what you would think a business is gonna do,

but then there's some things that are a bit funny in there. So 1940, so when they opened their first barbecue restaurant, right, so it's just the two McDonald's brothers. They've opened their first barbecue restaurant. So they've started hot dogs have moved to barbecue restaurant. Yeah, they like close down their hot dog stand and they build a barbecue restaurant. But I think it was still also like a drive-in style. Yeah, right.

So they had one of those. In 1948 they closed it for innovations and when it reopens the menu has nine items. That's it. And is that a cut down for them or an expansion? No, it was reduced to nine items. Oh, cut down. They've gone back to basics. They're keeping it simple. I's it. And is that a cut down for them or an expansion? No it was reduced to nine items. Oh, they've gone back to basics. They're keeping it simple. I like it. I like it. So do you want to have a guess at what the items would be? Yeah. Cheeseburger. Big Mac. No, not yet. French fries. Kind of potato chips, like potato crisps basically. Okay, like cold potato crisps.

Yeah. A normal burger, no chance. Like a hamburger, yeah. A normal burger, yes a hamburger. So you're on three. Three, a coke. So it's a soft drink. So I think there was, I think there was two

of, it must have been three like soft drink varieties. Sunday. No. I feel like we're on a family feud. Is that any ice cream? No. What is one dessert? Is that a hot family feud. It's any ice cream. No What is one dessert? Is that a hot dog again still hot dog? Apple pie. It's slice of pie. Yep. Oh, there's two more to go What else could you have a chicken burger? No, no, no, it's not it's a thing more beverages now. Oh thick shake no water. No

Be no No. No beer. No. Uh, Jesus' blood. Yes! No, that's not happening. Uh, something you might have in the morning? Milk. Milk and something else you might have in the morning. Coffee. Yeah, milk and coffee world. And there's separate items.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. So they must have had like just... Milk and coffee separately. But like when was the last time you walked into him, he'd done us an order to milk? Yeah, I know, exactly. Or anywhere that you were to milk. You were not milk.

Other than buying a big game at the survey. Well, there was that country dance. I was at that time when me and my mate walked in and we said, too long, cold glasses of milk. And we drank those glasses of milk and all the other boys they were drinking their beers and they crashed out early but me and my mate we danced all night long and we had our pick of the ladies and pick of the chaos no I'm a dive so sorry Jess I hope that that is a true story I hope you had a good

time at that party yeah it was great yeah I remember it like that is a true story. I hope you had a good time at that party. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. I remember it like that's a true story. Mm-mm. All right. Mm-mm. The, oh, okay.

So when they had their nine items, I'm just going to move on. The night I was there, staple item on their menu was the 15 cent hamburger. 15 cents. 15 cents. That is great. What, what's Matt doing now? Maths or having a stroke? I can never tell. Oh yeah because that sounds like a really good

value. Well it was in 1948 so you know probably a little more expensive now but still 15 cents, pretty cheap. Sounds great. Yep, sounds pretty good. So then the next year 1949 they replaced the potato chips with French fries. And thick shakes also made their debut. Ooh! La d'Ida. So this is where it starts to get a bit more interesting,

because in 1954, a multi-mixer salesman, so like a mixed master, his name was Ray Crocke. He's sorry, a mixed master? It's a brand. It's like a mixed master mic. I was Ray Croc. He's sorry, a mixed master. It's a brand. It's like a mixed master mic. I was going to say, I thought you were referring to the DJ from the Beastie Boys. That's most of my kind. No, it's sort of food-preparing mixing device.

And he just is he is traveling himself. He's a sad trip, yeah. I just imagine that he's got a big mixer taped to his back. Probably does. That's probably how it gets around. His name is Ray Croc. That's a great name.

Right. Great name. He visited the McDonald's brothers, intending to sell them more mixes. But while he's having a chat to them, he learns that the brothers are looking for a nationwide franchising agent. And he had an epiphany.

And it was now determined that his future is in hamburgers. He's like, this is where the future's heading. This is where Ray Croc is going to make it. So he goes on to his wife one night and he's like, look, I'm not going to be a mixed master anymore. She's like, oh no. No, not again, Ray. No, we know you're into bloody hamburgers.

He's supposed to be a mixed master. He's supposed to be hamburgers. What kind of before mixed master's you're reckon? Probably had a regular steady job, like a teacher or something. Oh no, he quit. He threw it into a mixed master. Quit the mixed master. Well, it worked for him because that's how he met the McDonald's brothers.

And the very next year he opened his first McDonald's in Illinois. And that's sort of where they start, like the present corporation of McDonald's dates it's founding to the opening of this store. In Illinois. Yeah, because it was only the night McDonald's restaurant overall. So the brothers had opened eight by themselves, just like a really impressive effort for two guys running a business.

I said they were already eight. Yeah, yeah, already eight. In the same city. No, I think they were sort of spread out. Okay, yeah. But not really widely spread, but they were sort of spread. So he opens one in Illinois, and then he later, I'm not exactly sure when, but he later purchased

the MacDonald Brothers equity in the company, and he was the one who led it to the worldwide expansion. So I'm not sure if they got much money from their own company. I'm sure they did. They must have. What? Is that where they're saying what a croc comes from? It must have been. Yes, must have been. Right, croc. So he kind of like, he compelled them to get out.

He was a pearly croc. Well like, croc. Thank you. Right? He just got smashed. He just got warnakied. He's been a crocodile all the cops. What did you write down?

I just wrote down. I'm not good to hold the cops here. What did you write? I just wrote down Ray Crook and underlined it like I'm in legend. Nice. Like I'm some sort of thing. No. Betty Spellt Ray Crook.

Like Ray Crook. Yeah, right. Miss Spellt is. Great. Actually, this really is real. I feel like Ray won thatrock. Yeah, right. Miss Spelted. Great. I think he just wrote his real name. I feel like Ray won that one. Yeah, I think he just beat me. I'll be back, Ray.

We'll get him. He's more about Ray. Firstly, you told me that dodgy mixmaster. Now this. So apparently he was quite an aggressive savvy businessman. So he compelled the brothers to leave the fast food industry. Hold on, so he's like, hey, I think that this is going to fail. I'm going to keep going, but I want you to leave.

Me, the business, I'll go under. I'll take it down. I doubt that's quite how it went. She said he compelled them. I compelled you. The power of crock compels you. I'm going to go. Oh, and they bailed.

Yes, so he opened his first one. So, and this is also where this particular store had the golden arches, but it was different to what it is now. So imagine a rectangle or square store and there was an archway on either end and from a particular angle, if you viewed it from to the angle it would make an M. But otherwise it just looked like two sort of semi-circles. Do you think that that's a coincidence or a design?

No, it was designed by Stanley Meston in 1953. So a couple of years earlier, he designed it that way. Isn't that pretty cool? That is cool. That's one of those things that if you're an architect, you probably think it's cool. But deep down, no one's ever going to notice. Yeah.

But this one actually took on. They actually noticed. And that's not cool. And now we all know the golden archers. He designed the golden archers in a way. So he opens his first McDonald's in Illinois and the sales on that first day was $366.12. Wow. Well, 15 cents goes into that a lot of times. Yeah. Well, that's

true. Yeah. And I mean, they've still had those nine items. I'm sure they had more by this stage. This was like 10 years. This is a while later. So it goes into what about... It shakes for then, yeah, I believe. And also... Yeah, it shakes now. And French fries. Actually, French fries, that's right. And this is where things start to go really quick. So like, okay, he's opened...

There's nine stores as of 1955. By 1958, they'd saw... They celebrated selling their 100... 100 millionth burger. What their 100 million burger. What? 100 million burgers. In like three years later. And then by 1959, they celebrated opening their 100th restaurant.

So they went from nine in 1955 to 100 in 1959. That is amazing. And also the fact that they sell celebrated hundred million burgers before the hundred restaurant yeah it's that each store sold more on average than a million handbook is yet is that ridiculous like it doesn't make sense seems like a lot even if fifteen cents someone's getting rich and i bet it's that bloody crock i reckon it's

crock crocks making a real uh... but a lot of money a real crock of money a real lot of money. A real croc of money. A real lot of money. This is an interesting one. So in 1961, Hanberger University opens. Yep, let's move on from that. No, we should not move on from that.

Hanberger University. Sorry. Have you just looked up Hanberger University in Germany? No, no. Hanberger. Hanberger University. What's that? It is a school in Illinois that, and actually there's several of them now, it was started

in 1961. I'll read you a bit of information about it. So since its inception, training at Hamburger University has emphasised consistent restaurant operation procedures, service, quality and cleanliness. It has become the company's global centre of excellence for McDonald's Operation Training and Leadership Development. You can go to Hamburg University and you leave with a Bachelor in Hamburgerology. Are you kidding?

No, I'm not kidding. That's a real thing. That is so, oh, isn't it? How long does a, like a standard three-year course? No, I don't think it's that long. It's right half hours. It's just a, Is your bachelor's here? I can actually remember it. I can see you say somewhere there.

We're going to learn flippin' what else? How'd you turn on the microwave? Turn off the microwave. Turn off the microwave at the end of the sheet. Yeah, you'll do that, go do that. So yeah. Turn the lights off as you leave and lock up. Lock up. It's pretty complicated. That's pretty tricky. You've got to figure out

how to take the 15 cents and put it somewhere safe. It's probably in a safe. That's really weird. I like it. I like it. I've been waiting for 10 years, so I know about that. I need another this. I feel like I'm learning, like I'm at the actual hamburger university.

Well, even hamburger universities really expanded because their first class was 15 students, and they graduated in February of 1961. It's great. class was 15 students and they graduated in February of 1961. Today, more than 7,500 students attend Hamburg University each year. So are the, are the McDonald's employees? They're McDonald's employees. Right. And how do you get picked? Well, I think there's sort of a process within the McDonald's itself.

Like a scholarship. No, I guess in a way, like there's some, there's some in-store training and then you kind of go off to university. Not everyone, no, but I think it's career progression wise. Right. Yeah, it's pretty great. In 1983, McDonald's invested $40 million into hamburger university. It's pretty crazy.

It's an 80-acre campus. I tell you the name. That's massive. 13 teaching rooms, 300-seat auditorium, 12 interactive education team rooms, three kitchen labs and a state-of-the-art service training lab. And today there is a service- Is that just mean like a set that looks like a McDonald's? Is that all that is?

Oh man, I hope so. Like a fake store. Like a fake store. Yeah. It's so good. Step into the interactive training center. You mean the McDonald's? Yes. There's one in Sydney. There's one in Sydney. We have one here. We have the interactive training center. You mean the McDonald's?

Yes. There's one in Sydney. There's one in Sydney. We have one here. We had a Hamburg University here. Of course, Sydney would have it. Yep. Munich, London, Tokyo, Shanghai, they're all over the place.

Not putting one in Hamburg was a definite oversight. Yeah, a great. Couple of that Munich got it. A great, very disappointing. I also like to just imagine the people that work. It's bad enough that you go there for the three and a half hour course whatever it is but if you are a professional hamburger or just teacher. I think it's like I think there's intensive classes I don't think it's a one to waste your time at the South Morph and bigger teacher at Hamburg University. Right.

So are we on board now with the theme of McDonald's? Because I'm... Yeah, that's something I didn't expect to hear about. I think a lot of the listeners are going to be with me on this. When are you going to get to the mascots? I want to hear about Grimmis' story. We're getting there very soon, my friend. Very soon. But I've got to go in chronological order.

I'm doing a timeline here. Okay, great. Okay, that's totally fine. Okay, so we're up to 1961, Hamburg University opens. 1962, first store to have indoor seating was in Denver in Colorado. So before that, it was just drive-ins. So you just sit in the car. And they thought that they'd set up a university before a restaurant.

Yeah. I know. And then, so 1963, I just pressed the wrong one. 1963, 500th store opens. So they went from 100 in 58 to 63, 500 stores. So that's 100 a year is opening. Yeah, that's crazy. Is that not ridiculous?

Like they're just opening so fast. OK, 1966, Matt, first television commercial, first appearance of Ronald McDonald's. So Ronald, 1966, Matt first television commercial, first appearance of Ronald McDonald's. So Ronald is the original. That's hard to say. I define him scary, Matt. He's, yeah, it's a clan. It's like old school clan. I think everyone finds it scary. He was a raging success. People just loved him straight away. I find him creepy still. Yeah. I, what creeps me out is those benches where he's permanently sitting there. And you're always, I'm not even creepy still. Yeah. What creeps me out is those benches where he's permanently sitting there.

And you're always, I'm always getting him move. He just, he looks like he'd grow up here. He would. Well, he's got his arm out, he probably would. So he's out of out at my heart. We've already profiled him. Don't drop your guard. 1967, first international chains open.

Where do you reckon they would have opened overseas? Canada. Correct. And? Mexico. Where do you reckon they would have opened overseas? Canada correct and Mexico what do we go? Well, that is an American territory. Hmm. There you go. Good work. Good work Dave Possibly why they didn't Kevin Kildroy. Oh Sorry, got Puerto Rico still exotic. He's just that it's technically not a country Take me that Puerto Rico is on a country. I don't know. Take me to another country. I didn't know that.

Puerto Rican is not a country. 1968, Big Mac is introduced. Now, this is what's kind of interesting, and this happens quite a bit through their history. So it was actually created by an owner operator of a franchise in Pittsburgh. His name was Jim Deligatti. So he was going wild.

Who's going wild? He was just making something of his business. And he was like, well, let's do something a bit different. Let's have a big Mac. It was being successful. So they roll out across the national menu. So he probably got called into the office by Croc to explain himself for going against the nine menu key items.

And then he explained that he said, well, I've sought 10,000 of these last week. And Croc was like, I'm not a croc and idiot here. We are. We own these. We own these. We own these. Do you make it clear with you, we own Big Max? Yeah, that's a good point.

I was kind of thinking, because I've watched a lot of undercover boss, and I really like it when they... I'm a cover crook. I really like it when the bosses see something that the staff members have done and take an initiative and then they support them with that, but you're right, it's probably more just like, well, if you're making money off it, then we can all make money off it. I'm going to make more money off it. Yeah, and I bet you he didn't buy the idea of him.

Well, yeah, I highly doubt it. And then the same year, so 1968, the hot apple pie was developed as well, and there was also created by a franchisee in Knoxville, whose name was Litton Cochran. And that's added to the national menu as well. I was reading about you know, what's that big donut? franchise from our crispy cream Yeah, and there was someone had I think it was them Someone had run out of the ingredients. They get to leave it and it's it's like secret ingredients sort of stuff like this Herbs and sparsas and the secret sauce McDonald's. So they just made up some of their

own and they got sued by the company. What? Because they just like oh we're running out of stuff we're gonna improvise some and it's like yeah they fucked them up. Great. I was gonna say that you couldn't do that anymore, could you edit? Yeah, no just just wouldn't make it. The local runs week McDonald's. It's like, yeah, your contract says you have to sell these specific things. Absolutely. I'm sure it's much more tight now, but this is back in the 60s.

No, actually these days you have that design your own burger thing. So if you design a burger, do they technically own it if it is awesome, like if you're a some sort of chef, but like how would other people order it, you know, I don't know, but maybe you're the only one who knows it's awesome Cuz you're the one who eats it somehow the manager cuz they've got to make it sort of backstage if you will In the kitchen Show man I don't know what the show business my whole life I don't know what you you host a lot of people your show business my whole life. I don't know what you hostility people for your backstage area.

The green room is literally never had a real job. Anyway, so backstage they're making it. Drinking, they're like, oh, this looks good. Gwakamoli and chicken, I'll never thought of that before. Copyright, me. Is that technically a thing? I know that if you work for Apple in the Apple store,

you can't design apps. They own, why you work for them, even, you can't design apps. They own, why you work for them, even if you don't design apps, if you just work in the Apple shop as one of those genius people, you sound a contract saying that, because you work for Apple, if you design an app, they own the app.

That's kind of crazy. So like if you design something amazing at McDonald's, I don't know, just crock on it. Who knows? Well, I mean, we should ask, you know, Litton Cochran and Jim Delegati, because they'd know, but they're probably long dead Dave. They're probably dead. Killed, say it. Any other great ideas, Dave?

Yeah, too many big Macs. Oh, here's another great thing from 1968. This is so good. It ties into a previous thing that we've talked about as well. So in 1968, McDonald's airlifted hamburgers to the American athletes competing in the 68 Olympics in France. They airlifted them. They were homesick. Oh my, I miss home. So hey, we'll be using a hand. Yeah, they should be cold hamburgers. I know how they even bring it to them. That's got lifting of course. Athletes reminds me of our shame one used to get baked beans. But once again I don't think our athletes these say's anyway would be allowed to have been told. Yeah well that's what a lot was thinking. In the village.

Their diets are so closely managed by nutritionists as if they'd be allowed to have an effort. But if we if you look at the records I reckon that that was probably the best ever Olympics attention. Metal per athlete ratio. Probably. Alright Dave, you're the one who's great at maths. 1963, we had 500 stores, right?

Yes. Now, 1968, 1000 stores. Doubled. Another. Still going 100 per year. He's good maths. He's good at maths. Guys.

Is that not ridiculous? It's crazy. That's a lot of... So a thousand in the six years. A thousand, we've got a thousand stores now. Since 1955 it's now 1969, a thousand years, a thousand years. A thousand years. A thousand stores. That's right, the McDonald's Rikers recent, a thousand year rake of McDonald's. Oh it's really hard with lots of numbers. All right Matt here we go. Here we go Manny. What's on the Maths guy? What's Matt?

I'm the mascot guy. Yeah he is. 1971. New mascot. New mascot. So that's all about it. Here they are. There's Grimmis. There's the hamburger. Yeah.

There's Bertie but she probably came later. Came later. They need to appear to women, is that it? Oh, I think he's a serious. He's a serious. He said grimace. I think there are some American ones that we didn't know because there's one that's, um,

Mammic cheese. Oh, yeah, Mammic cheese from Charlie. I don't know. I love it. He throws a top hat and he's just like his head is a hamburger, so he's got like cheese coming out. Oh, that's Mammic cheese. Oh, I didn't remember the ham.

Um, um, Captain Crook. Oh, I just remember the hat. Captain Crook. Oh, I wonder if this is named after Crook. Crook. I thought you were all thinking he's named after Captain James Cook. Probably not. I would have thought Captain Hook. Probably not. So, he was the sidekick to the Hamburg?

Maybe, but there's also one called Big Mac. Oh, yeah, he was not a hamburger head. Yeah, they're not very, yeah, just give him more hamburger heads. Yeah. But yeah, that's when they all joined Ronald, because he was obviously lonely. So why himself? So, now he's got mates.

That's good, huh? We had a wonderful world. That we live in. I know. 1970 was also a big year, because that was when Australia got our first McDonald's. 1971? Any idea where it was? Sydney.

It was Sydney. It was Sydney, but it was in like a suburb in Sydney. New town. No, that wouldn't be it. It would be in... Leaderville. Dude in Gatta. No, that's, I don't know what that is.

Ogdenville. Ogdenville put them on the map. The famous book. I would be a parent of the space. You're going to know. me a book. I would we have heard of this place? You go now. You go now. Yeah, I see. I mean, they've got a lot of weird names.

You go now. You go now. Do we sound like, like, the most melvin people right now? You go now. You go now. I think I was gonna say they do have weird numbers, but we definitely have more rabbit. We have more.

Yeah, if you don't... If you think about any word too long, it becomes very strange. That's very true. McDonald's. They're great. I think a lot of them go back to their Indigenous words. Yeah, which is good. Some cracking ones. And often I mean meeting place. There we go. Noting dramatically on a podcast. Stop doing it. People write you off as the mascot car, but you're also the meeting place guy.

And I like that. I like that about you. So you're going to get the first one in the 71. 71 in Sydney. They get their first. 73 quarter pounder is added to the menu. Welcome aboard quarter pounder. It's not that exciting, but.

And is that invented by some sort of store road? It's not safe. It's invented by anybody in particular, whether they're doing head office kind of inventions now, who knows? And that is like, that is a burger that weighs a quarter pound. Yeah, I think the meat is a quarter pound of flesh. They do have pounds or full pounders? No.

Yeah, you can watch. It's a quarter pound, is that big? Is that bigger than a big Mac? No. Yeah, why is that the only one where bigger than a big map? No. So, yeah. Why is that the only one where they talk about the size of the mate? I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. It's an interesting part. It's one of the things that really makes you think about meat. 74 the first. 18 places. 15 places. What a pound of that's what it means. In 1974 the first Ronald McDonald House opens in Philadelphia. Uh-huh. Yeah, because there's lots of those as well.

I don't know how many there are actually. That would have been something good to get a number on, but lots all around there's Ronald McDonald Houses. 1970. That's for attacks right off, I think. Oh, a big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1975 the egg McMuffin is added.

Now that one was the brainchild of a guy called Herb Peterson, who was an owner operator in Santa Barbara. Right in that down because I like that a lot. What year is this Herb Peterson? 75 and he created the egg McMuffin. It's strange that you have so many public holidays but none that recognized the great work for Herb Peterson. Ninety and seventy for forty years we could have celebrated that this year. Forty years of egg and McMuffins. It probably did. Is that the first one that started the craze of putting Mac at the start of their products? Probably. I've seen this case in the middle. Yeah, Big Mac was around. Big Mac's there, but it's you know the McFlurry Macchicken. Big Mac was in 68. Macfish. Yeah, they also come later

And you know what's really funny too. I want to talk about some of their funny lawsuits later. And they're like all to do with Mac. Pretty much, it's ridiculous. Oh, people are just trying to be like, yeah, buy your Mac Nike's or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wouldn't it be more like existing brands were already around MacSelmen, they're like,

that we own Mac. No, you're fucked, get out. Yeah, that's right. But I am my ninth Mac. Mac Donald, and I, get out. Yeah, but I am, my nose, Mac. Mac Donald, and I've been making Mac Donald's sheep farming since 18 or 17. Literally, that really. Yes, it's quite ridiculous.

1975 as well was the first drive-through. Oh, I love not it, it's a car. That was in Arizona, but do you know why they invented the drive-through? Ooh, if it's in Arizona, is it too hot to get out of the car? No, but there was an army fort just down the drive. Ooh, if it's in Arizona, is it too hot to get out of the car? No, but there was an army fort just down the road. And the...

They weren't allowed to go in in their uniform. Correct, they were like, get out of their cars in their army fatigues. That's great. That was part of the fort wouldn't let them, they weren't allowed. So McDonald's solved the problem by instilling the first drive through.

Like, don't worry about it. Let's just drive on up to the window. Isn't that ridiculous? And our drive-throughs are everywhere and every single fast food chain has. Awesome. Drive-throughs. So they also have like a helicopter landing pad. Not a airport.

The airport is getting jubbed to the north. The Navy are pretty pissed. What I like about it. What I like about the drive-through is, because you're normally feeling ashamed. Oh, bitch. You got it. So the drive-through cuts who cuts that out and also people who go to these places are gross. I'm put off my food if I see people inside of McDonald's. I don't want to eat it anymore. So the only time I would ever eat McDonald's. You're fellow customer. Yeah, people like me.

The only reason, I mean, I don't really eat it at all, but if I was going to, it would be in a draves who are under the cover of darkness. I don't really eat it at all, but if I was going to, it would be in a drive-through under the cover of darkness. I don't want to see the gross losers eating McDonald's. Because I, like I would seriously lose my appetite watching those fucking disgusting swabs. Anyway, yeah. That's why I never see. I like it though. That's why drive-throughs it. Yeah, they're pretty good. I often wish there was a drive through like 7-Eleven, but I'm also very glad that there isn't such a thing, cause sometimes I just really want like a Mars bar, but I can't be vlogging out of the car for it, so I just drive home, I just keep going.

That's good, isn't it? Thank God. It stops you. Cause if there was one, I would spend so much money on just shit, just junk. I think it is a great business idea. It's a great idea, but I hope they never do it. If 7-11 are listening and I'm sure they are, please, for the love of God, don't do it.

I mean, it would be a great business opportunity if you don't do it. In our own, seriously, don't do it. You guys have seen in Fitzroy on Nickerson Street, there's a drive-through pizza shop, which doesn't make sense to me because you drive in, you have to wait 10 minutes. Like, in the car while I get the garlic bread hot enough. It seems very strange.

Is it one of those made to order pizza shops or would it be like they've just got pizzas and go and you buy slices? No, that's the business model. A lot of slices. That's the best one you can go on just buy a slice. Yeah, that's great. So good. Pizza is my favorite food.

Well, remember that. Yeah, I'm a pizza impaster. Yeah, I'm a pizza and pasta girl. Yeah. I'm a pasta and pizza girl. No, actually, I like pizza. pasta. I mean, bevelin. Okay. I want to take it. I might leave it. Fair enough.

Hey. Don't pressure me. You're a modern man. You can make your own decisions. Oh, I don't know if they do MacPasta and Italy. I didn't see it when I was in Italy, but I was going to talk as well about some of the international issues. We can get to that. I'm excited to talk about it at my experience with that. We're getting towards the end of the interesting stuff on the timeline too. So, okay, 1978 now, the 5,000th restaurant opens. All right, let's do

a quick recap of how far it's spread. So the last count was a thousand. The last count was a thousand and that was in 68. Now we're in 78. So 10 years there's 5,000. 5,000. So now we're operating an extra 500 year. Isn't that ridiculous? Which is more than one of 10. And this 5, yeah, shit. And this 5,000 so it stores open in Japan. So they're spreading a lot through different countries now. That's 10 a week. 10 a week? Is that? Bit less than, but yes, very good, Matt.

That's what I'm about, 10 a week. Yeah, no, very much. Because you know what? Because like some weeks, it would be maybe 11. And the next week, they might only do eight, you know? It's a new Mathsboy in town. Yeah, all right. I'm not in my little Mathsboys.

I love Mathscot's too. Is that Mathscot? Yep. Yes, I did. My little maths boys. I love maths scots too. They're maths scots. Yep. Yes, I did. Sorry to tread on that again. It wasn't sure. I think so good for picking me up on it. I'm pretty sure to appreciate a lot. 1979 happy meals make their debut. Oh, that is a licensed print money. Right. 1980 so this is only two years after 5,000 stores 1986,000 restaurant opens, so in Munich, in Germany. So it's still operating at 500 a year? 500 a year.

And now they're in... That's about 10 a week. Still correct. Still correct. Still about. Yeah, the about is a really important distinction that you make, so that's great. Well, so that seems like a story.

It's a holiday. By this time, by this time it must be a craze, like people around the world are waiting for their mackets to arrive in Europe. Like your people must know about it. It's amazing. Pally, they don't call it mackers overseas. They do not.

Well, yeah, that's why our, the McDonald's Australia is at mackers. That's why they can get that. Oh, cool. I don't think anyone knows what you're talking about. And a lot of stores have changed their signage now They actually say Macchars. If you are overseas we call it Macchars. Okay. Yeah, I don't know why we're short of everything I don't know why Sorry, but not sorry 1983 Macnuggets are introduced. Yeah, so they're fairly young

Yeah, the Macnuggets. introduced. So they feel young. They're like the McNuggets. That's why they say little. They're growing. Can you imagine how small they were? Yeah. Every now and then you just give it way too much. That's what I just say. That was quite funny.

They're not like... What? Matt Knight was all clearly looking at each other. When he said maths got before, nothing. No, no. Mine was better. I grew a Jess. So you just took me by surprise and you know I'll bloody, I loved having it with laugh. You're very strange in that. You like to laugh. It're very strange in that you like to laugh it's very strange.

Put that in my two. It's not a dog pudding. Yeah I find it a lot. One of my friends called me a laugh slut. So I'll just laugh at anything. Not true. Not Matzgot. Yeah exactly.

You would laugh at anything. Wasn't that funny. Mother you fucking laughed at Matzgot. Yeah well make a joke about it. Now it's being little. I'm there. Alright I'll try and get one back. All right Moving on. So in 1984 Ray Crocs passed away Yeah, that's sucked in. You got crogged.

1984. So is he still involved until that? Yeah, yeah. So he's like a billionaire by then. Mass-Bee. So he was at this stage, his title was founder and senior chairman of the board of McDonald's. That's a pretty great name. Wow. Board of McDonald's. And then he used to be just a mixed master. I know he's a founder of chairman. Now he's a president of salesman and now he's a senior chairman. That is wafeel silly. Yeah, it's bloody down. Barbara. They never doubt me. So then the next year, so 1985, that first store that he opened in Illinois, I think it had previously been like changed over.

It wasn't a McDonald's anymore, but they restored it to its original form and they reopened it as the McDonald's Store Museum. So there's a museum out there for anybody who wants to have a look at that. Wow. I mean, it's weird enough that we're talking about it, but they go to a physical building and learn these pointless facts that you're telling us about today. Well, I don't like it.

I don't get it. We do a lot of research behind scenes here. We're even talking about it. We do a lot of research behind the scenes here and what you won't know is that Jess has actually been to that museum to research the show. Just yesterday. I don't half-ass these things, guys. You're a severely jet lag. That's how much. I don't half-ass these things. Your eyes.

Severely jet lag. That's how much. I didn't research this in my pajamas today. OK. No way. I've been working on this. All the way to Illinois, saw the golden archers, tried to do that weird thing with your eyes

with their match-up to make an arm or something like that. I'm dedicated to this podcast, and the listeners should appreciate that. That's right. OK. OK. All right, I mean, to get so threatening, I mean, take it down. But I'll find you. That's right. Okay. Okay. I mean, to get so threatening, I mean, take it down, but I'll find you.

No, I won't. Nope. I think someone gave us two stars on fucking iTunes. Who gave us two stars? Are you serious? We're going to two stars. Some anonymous person. We went to Illinois for you.

What a prick. Let's just focus on all the five stars we got. That are mostly me. In 1982! Maybe I didn't give us five stars obviously because I think this is a great podcast. I thoroughly enjoy listening to it. I'll accept your five, but only if they're genuine. Yes.

Do you really think this is a five out of five podcasts? Yeah, I do because I treasure both of you. Hey, she's not going to Illinois for no reason. Yeah, I'll do the work. Well, I'll accept it then. Shall I move on, I shall. Do go on, please. 1987, salads added to the menu.

See, oh, do they look much later, right? I still thought they were like a recent addition. No, healthy choices. Yeah, so that's definitely more recent, like, like, 2000s, but, um, I'm not late, but, uh, yeah, they did have salads in the late 80s I think I don't think that would be that popular or maybe there was only like one or two options. It's an option just to try and... Yeah but I would try and...

It's all marketing right? It's just going well look where you don't have to feel bad for coming in you know still if people see you walking in you can just say we'll get myself. Get yourself but at the same time don't fucking order the cell. I don't know what you're doing. No one ever has. It means to never say. Yeah wow. The cell technically it's doing more harm to your body than that big Mac as it's six years old.

They're just following the trends right. Like those healthy choices came in when there was a real push for all these healthy, healthy reality TV shows on that sort of bullshit was coming out. And then there's like a kickback against that, not a kickback. Pushback against that, and then they're like, and then they're like, yeah, we're gonna, and then KFC comes out with that double chicken thing. And then there's a pushback against that and they go healthy again. They're just playing us like chumps.

Chumps. I feel like full. I never knew and I feel like an idiot. Don't, don't feel like an idiot. Thanks. You've been played Dave. I know, here I was stuffed with my face with a salad one week, then next I'm eating that chicken thing with the buns, was made of chicken. Oh, so gross. So, okay, so in 1978 we had the 5,000 restaurants, right? Now, 1988, another 10 years later, we're up to 10,000 restaurants.

Still 500 a year. Well, which is Matt? How much does that? How many is that a week? That works out to be about 10 a week, approximately. Broxmonely. Still correct. He is still spot on.

Isn't that his fascinating that they can grow more than a restaurant a day for like 20 straight years? It's ridiculous. It's amazing. It's terrifying. So then in 1990, the founder Ray Croc again, he was named by Life magazine as one of the 100 most important Americans of the 20th century. I was sure you're going to say he was exhumed, but that's probably better. He was exhumed and his body was put on display in the museum.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was put on display in the science class at the burger university, at the hamburger tutorial. Wouldn't it be great if they like expanded the university to not just McDonald's but then they actually took on like medicine students. Yeah. But the degree still had like the hamburger on it and so. Yeah, yeah. But their degrees still had like the hamburger gloron, and so,

yeah, and all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that.

And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that.

And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. And all that. Now, the rest of the timeline was kind of boring stuff, so I just decided to move on. Here's one thing that's pretty interesting. So, this is kind of cool actually. So, to accommodate the current trend for high quality coffee and the popularity of coffee shops and cafes and stuff like that, McDonald's introduced a McAfee. So like that cafe style that goes with the McDonald's restaurant itself in the style of a Starbucks. Now, what you may not know is that McAfee is a concept created by McDonald's Australia

and actually started it in Melbourne in 1993. In the... Why should they've been around that long McAfee? I don't... I think that's sort of a concept that started and now most in Australia will have a McAfee, but that's pretty exclusive to Australia. So there's no meat cafes Obviously, I think they're like starting to pop up but nearly every single one in Australia has one There's only a few that don't and it would be like the ones in shopping centers and stuff like that that don't have them Are the coffees any good there? No, but at least it's

The wrist are made rather than just a button. Why do you ask the question? It's really interesting as well because I don't drink coffee. I'll let it know. Most McDonald's in Australia have macaphas and in Tazzi, every single McDonald's has a macapha and the rest of the states are following. So Tasmania is leading the McAfee chart. Yeah, but they probably have fewer stores. So, for like...

Yeah, they've got two stores. And they've got two McAfees. But what's kind of interesting is that some Australian stores noticed up to a 60% increase when they upgraded to the McAfee style. Because we have such coffee snobbs. See, this is once again what you say. It's just to give you a wink to get you in. And once you're in there, you get you,

Mick, Cafe, but you're also like, well, I'll get a big Mac all I'm here. Absolutely. I'm not an idiot. We're gonna make two stops. I know, it's so weird, isn't it? So I just thought that was gonna be interesting that it started.

I had no idea. It started in Australia. But you love it. Much brown. No, I'll see, go. My nationalist eye. I've, oh, international menus. Do you want to talk about that? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm couple of weeks ago and they were serving Minestrone soup. Yes, I was gonna say quite a few of them particularly in Asia served soup What I was in I didn't try it but I was enjoying the novelty of that. Yeah Matt have you been to because you're not big on McDonald's anyway. No, I don't think I ever have Because I like for the most part. I don't do vegetarian stuff Yeah, but I don't remember ever going to one on purpose.

I remember hearing a lot of the overseas stores have a license, which is different. A lot in Europe will sell beer in New Zealand, McDonald's sells meat pies, because the local affiliate partially relaunched the Georgie pie fast food chain that it bought out in 1996 So you get a bought out a pie shop. You can get a pie and a meat pie. Oh my god. Why is this new bucket list? If you haven't listen, I am obsessed with that's my food. I don't do it faster, but I'll do a pie all the time And why is that the one stater haven't been to the state New Zealand? Oh, sorry I was thinking you said to us many. No, you're still being a tazzy. This is New the one state I haven't been to? The state New Zealand. Oh, sorry, I was thinking you said Tasmania.

No, you're still thinking of Tasmania. This is New Zealand. New Zealand. Well, I'm still on that far away. Oh, go. It's like a state. Yeah, do it. So yeah, when I was traveling, I didn't even, I don't think I even tried anything to, when it was traveling, I no longer travel. When I traveled in my youth. But, yeah, so sometimes they'll, the local, the deviations from the standard menu. It's, sometimes it'll be because it'll abide by like a regional food taboo, such as like in India. You can't have beef, so they don't have beef.

So I think you can get a good veggie burger in an Indian one, Matt. Have you interested? You can get them Mc veggie burger in an Indian one, Matt, if you're interested. You can get them migrice in Indonesia. What's that? It's migrice. Maybe it's fried rice. It's this thing true. I think I read this recently that Coke is the big.

You know, is there anything about Coke on here? Because they're like, I reckon that's a big part of their successes that they locked in there. They teamed up with the biggest stuff in the company, yeah. Whereas the others like KFC's Pepsi stuff. Pepsi Max, yeah. They jumped into loser.

But PepsiCo was pretty massive, yeah. Well, you know, they were in the, yeah, they overtook them in the age of something. But Coke apparently they've got a secret ingredient as well, like all these bullshit things do. And in India, I think there's a local law Apparently they've got a secret ingredient as well like all these bullshit things do and In India, I think there's a local law that you have to you can't have any secret ingredients So instead of telling the Indian government what the secret ingredient was they pulled out of

India What? Is that true? That's the truth. Wow. I'm pretty sure that's the truth. I didn't know that. I love that. That's pretty cool. I'll check that before you edit this. And let you know whether or not edit it out. Same with that crispy cream thing. I'm doubting that now.

Never doubt yourself. Okay. Kill effect. I've got a few more fun facts and, like I mentioned before, I wanted to talk about a couple of lawsuits that happened. But obviously, you can't really talk about McDonald's without talking about the 2004 film Super Size Me. Oh yes!

Do you remember that movie? Yes I do. Oh well it's not a movie, it's a documentary. What's his name? Evan Morgan. Morgan Freban. Spurlock. No that's something else.

He's Morgan Freban. That's like Morgan. Laurence Fishburden, Morgan Freeman and One. Morgan Freeman, that's the other thing. No, this is Morgan Spurlock. Who's a documentary maker. He ate a McDonald's restaurant three times a day for a month. Right, it was part of his, and he would only, he would supersize, but only if offered.

So he has to say yes, is that the rule? Yeah, if he's offered supersize, he has to say yes, otherwise he can just have like an standard-sized meal. Um, he consumed 5,000 calories. Um, I never know, is that a lot? Well, an intake of around 2,500 within a healthy balan start is more generally recommended for a man of his size. So it's twice what he would be recommended for him. Okay, and he as a result, he gained 11.1 kilos in a month, a 13% body mass increase, increases cholesterol and experienced mood swings, sexual dysfunction and fat accumulation in his liver. And it took him 14 months to lose the weight.

Wow. After that. Yeah. And what people don't know is that he was still eating McDonald's three times a day in the 14 months after which at first they didn't tell him that he was still eating McDonald's three times a day in the 14 months after which At first they didn't tell him that that was the problem It wasn't creases access. He wasn't noticing a correlation Also after not long after they released their their film

McDonald's got rid of the supersize option. Oh, is that gone now? It's gone I hate that that guy took that away from me As if you weigh 52 kilos, exactly. I should be allowed to have any size meal I've learned. But as if you could get through it. I should be encouraged. They should say, I'm sorry, sir, you can't have a small meal. You'll have the supersize. I pay a lot of money to watch you eat a supersize meal.

So what is supersize for you? That's bigger than large. Bigger than large. Right. We never had that here. Well, I think I vaguely remember it's very, very briefly. I think it was bigger than Jesus, is the technical term. Yeah, that's the technical term, yeah.

Where to describe the meal? You know, I love to finish on some fun facts. Maybe I'll save that fun fact for the end. I will talk about just a couple of fun fact lawsuits. Well, there's a couple of lawsuits, and then there's one fun fact that I just thinks a little bit of Dukes, and also kind of ties in with past episodes.

I love when this happens. So there's kind of an interesting one. So remember how McDonald's have always done the McDonald's Monopoly game? Yeah, that seems to happen. It happens for several times a year. Yeah, it happens quite a bit. So I always get a start doing it and then I lose them.

Oh, yeah, no, never remember. So there was this subcontracting company called Simon Marketing, which had been hired by McDonald's to organize and promote the game, so that was kind of their job. Now they failed to recognize a flaw in its procedures. So the chief of securities, and was Jerome P. Jacobson, he was able to remove the most expensive game pieces, which he then passed on to mates. So he's a chief of security where?

Of the company Simon Marketing. Oh, right. So this is, sorry. He's not, former Donalds, he's for like their subcontracting company. So you mean they were like, we've stuffed up and they sent the security guard into every McDonald's to try and get all the cuffs back.

So get the blue property. He was taking the most expensive game pieces, giving it to his associates or his friends, who would then redeem them and share the proceeds. So he's pocketing all the big bucks. So what was the thing that they would have, they missed that they could have stopped that? I'm not really sure, it just sort of says that they made... They could see through or something.

Yeah. So I'm fairly sure the way that control it is, say for example, you want Mayfair and Park Lane and you get the holiday. So they print 10,000 Mayfair's, but only two park lanes, so many assistants. Yeah, it's something like that. So that's how they control it.

So there's only two possible winners, but it sounds like they made... A lot of people would feel like they're halfway there. Yeah, so they, it sounds like they may, or you know, two out of three of them. Many, or yeah. It sounds like they may have stopped off in printed 10,000.

And they did this for a long time. So between 1995 and 2000, they won almost all of the top prizes. So they did it five years in a row and no one noticed first? Well, yeah, because he was probably using quite a few different people. It wasn't just one person constantly winning. Jesus, guys, lucky. Yeah, then they obviously twig a bit earlier. Well, the security guard has really moved into him.

Yeah. A bigger house every year for the last five years. It's pretty bad. Yeah. His partner must be working very hard. He's worked his moved into a bigger house 10 times a week. Roughly. Roughly. Roughly. They scored 24 million dollars. Twenty four. In prize money. And so then they finally realized they figured it out. They get back to this guy and they arrested him. But then what's kind of weird as well is that in 1995 St Jude's Children Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee received an anonymous letter post marked Dallas containing a $1 million winning game piece. So somebody had like anonymously sent a million dollars basically to this children's hospital. Now the game rules prohibited the transfer of prizes,

but when Donald waved that rule, yeah thank God because they're a bit of a worse people ever. And they were giving a payment of $50,000 annually just until you got to a million. Which is 20 years worth. So they made that last payment towards the end of 2014 and investigations later indicated that Jacobson had admitted to sending the winning piece to the hospital, the guy who got in trouble. Of course, but you've claimed that wouldn't you? Who's going to come out and say, no, it was me, oh shit, I'm guilty. Of course you'd say, so did he go to jail? I believe he did, yes. Well, so yeah, it's pretty great. It's pretty cool because all these lawsuits as well, a lot of them just have to do with Mac or Mac at the start of things,

especially so in one note where the case McDonald's sued a Scottish cafe owner called McDonald, even though the business in question dated back over a century. Wow, so do they win that kind of case? They've won a few of them and then there's been a couple that like the little guys won and that's always cool So there's let me find some of this Ride off me, you jerks. Yeah, you jerks.

So there was one called Maccoffee and in 1994 McDonald's successfully forced Elizabeth Maccoffee, so She was in the San Francisco Bay area. They forced her to change the trading name of her coffee shop, McCoffee. Two McCoffee. She'd had that for 17 years. She'd been running that little cafe and she's like, it was just an adaptation of my name.

Oh. McCoffee, so she's like C-A-U-G-H-E-Y. And they're like, nope, you got a m- you got a m- in it, it's ours. It's so weird that you're allowed to own, like a common noun. But they shouldn't be able to, but they can just afford the best lawyers. Yeah, right, they just wait a minute. It's so ridiculous. Um, so there was one called McMunchies. She didn't, there's a-

Their hash browns are a little bit different. This is run by a lady called Mary, Mary Blair, Mary Blair. And she just, she didn't sell burgers or chips. She just chose a name because she liked the word munchies. And one of the cafe to have a Scottish field, which is why she had a look in there. And the thing is, I change it to Mac munchies. No, but even Mac, they won't allow them to have to have So Mac. No, you can't that they've had they've had to go out people for that as well McDonald's said if someone uses the Mc prefix even unintentionally they were using something that does not belong to them. Is that ridiculous? Wow, what a world we live in. I know, but he's a cool one though

McDonald's filed a lawsuit against McDonald's family restaurant, like Hedling Grand Cayman. And the company McDonald's lost the case, and in addition was banned from ever opening a McDonald's in that area. And that still stands today. Like I open one there. Did you know Dave, that Chris Cross was... Jump jump.

Yeah, they lost rights to this on Jump Jump because of the line. Mickey didn't make it in Mickey didn't make it in Mac Dad. They lost the rights the whole song. Is that true? Yeah. I think you're joking right? I'm so far in now. I got to just commit. Commit. Yeah, no, it's dead dead set. That's definitely just wow. One of them died. Yeah. Ronald. Ronald did it. Yeah, that's right.

Exactly behind the scenes, who knows what happened. I'm the Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D. Well, you just said, Senna, everybody. I'm the Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D Mickey-D. I can't believe you just said that on this show, we're going to... I need to watch our back. We've got to watch our back now.

Pretty terrifying. I've got, so just some facts and then one more fun fact. OK. So we have to sit through some shit facts. Well, it's not really a shit fact. It's just interesting. It's just a summary, basically. So McDonald's is the world's largest chain

of hamburger fast food restaurants serving around 68 million customers daily in 119 countries across more than 36,000 outlets. Crazy. Crazy. And just one last fun fact. more than 36,000 outlets. Crazy! Crazy! And just one last fun fact. McDonald's and NASA explored an advertising agreement for a planned mission to the asteroid 449 hamburger.

It was an asteroid that's called hamburger, and in the 80s and 90s, NASA considered a spacecraft mission to the asteroid, including a tie-in with McDonald's. That's great for they had to abandon. It was canceled in, called for launch in 1995, but it was later canceled. But how great is that? McDonald's could have gone to the moon. Like that is really. That's gonna happen one day, right?

It's gotta, there has to be the first intergalactic McDonald's. It'll happen. I'd love for someone to just Get out and copyright Mac in outer space. Oh, so you can't do the moon. Yeah, like sorry boys. This is ours already taken Yeah, you can call yourself Donald's up there, but yeah, McQuaffee Mrs. McQuaffee She owns the moon. I'm sorry mate. She's already claimed McMarza's their own. She's a smart lady, she's into business.

So that's McDonald's. Wow, is this terrible that I feel like eating it now, even though we heard all the bad stuff as well? No, I didn't even go into people finding rats in their burgas. But there's horror stories. I just looked at it purely from a business point of view because you love math, Mat loves math scots. I'm all about business. Wow, that's what we're all about. That's what we're well known for Did you find anything about their ethics being questionable apart from business ethics?

Which sound like that or a bit there? There have been quite a few disputes over pay. I did read quite a bit about that Yeah, but I didn't you know, I just kind of I was swept up in the magic of it all. I did it today. Everything, every business that becomes that big, the scale becomes hard to manage. Absolutely. Even you set rats in burgers and stuff, if you're making 100 million burgers every day. It's going to happen, isn't it? It's going to. 36,000 outlets is gonna be one rat, you know? That's right. And his name? It's Ray Croc. Rat Croc.

Rat Croc. Rest in peace, Ray. Nah, don't. How do we wrap up for you? Well, I actually really enjoyed listening to that. You looked a little hesitant at the start when I said McDonald's, you kind of like your brow furrowed. Furrowed? Because you made him hungry and he was an hour and a half away from food.

Yeah, feeling hungry, but I'm going to get on a plane to New Zealand and get a pie, McDonald's. That's my plan for the evening. But thank you. He's usually going on a plane. Are you going to New Zealand? Yeah, it's a nice. Are you really? What are you talking about?

We're about to get in the same car and drive to the same standup comedy night. For a second I've been on the car. We're all going to perform at the same place. I forgot the pie. I was like, is that good of you, Zealand? For Christmas? That's cool. I was like halfway saying I'm sorry.

We definitely feel like we're all being on the same wavelength. We're pretty pretty. Really? You go. Really? I'm going to perform. I forgot the pie. I was like, is that good of you, Zealand? I was like halfway saying I'm sorry. was thinking. We definitely feel like we're all being on the same wavelength turn up. We're pretty pretty pretty.

Really, you go. Really crisscross in New Zealand. So we'll probably just leave it there. Thanks so much for listening guys. If you do enjoy the show and you think it's worth more than two stars, then maybe give us three, four, five, preferably the five in the sky. Just go, just go five. It's an even number to say. It's the same with Uber, it's the same with podcasting.

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No big bitch to your friends. Well, I was bitching to their friends. I just heard the worst podcast. Shut up. I don't care. Yeah, turn it off. Great. I thought Dave was going to New Zealand. Oh, well, we have lost it. But you can get in contact with this. We're still going on I'm trying to wrap it up here. I do go on part that's us on Twitter, but you can find us Thank you so much for listening. Thank you Jess I'll be back next week the report believe it is my turn. I will go on but until then we say yeah a do and good night If you are going to miss you go on. That's very good. Bye. Bye

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