Two In The Think Tank - 120 - The Hindenburg Disaster

Episode Date: February 7, 2018

Oh the humanity! A new episode has landed (crashed). It's one of the most documented disasters of the 20th Century, but what really happened to The Hindenburg? What could possibly bring down the largest vessel that has ever flown? An acrobat, Nazis and a boy with the best name we have ever come across... this story has it all. Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] AND FURTHER READINGhttps://www.space.com/16595-montgolfiers-first-balloon-flight.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Ferdinand-Graf-von-Zeppelinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airship_accidentshttp://mentalfloss.com/article/19442/blimp-vs-zeppelin-whats-differencehttp://www.airships.net/hindenburg/disaster/http://www.history.com/news/the-hindenburg-disaster-9-surprising-factshttps://www.livescience.com/58959-hindenburg-crash.htmlhttp://www.unmuseum.org/mob/hindenburg.htmSeconds From Disaster (National Geographic)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V14MgfKNnchttp://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/nonfiction/a-very-brief-history-of-airships/http://www.zeppelinhistory.com/rigid-airships-history/history-of-rigid-airships/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster#Lightning_hypothesishttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/hindenburg-mystery-solved-after-76-years-8517996.html

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Oh, when you get pretty big in the podcast game like we are. You get to make a few demands. Oh, who are we making demands to? To demand. Water. Podcast demand. Podcast demand. He's a...

And big water. Big water. Oh, big water, you gotta watch out for that man. We only drink big water. Oh yeah. We don't support local. We got a big thirst, so we need a big water. Yeah, so I'm drinking three gallons.

At once. Yeah, what a gallon is, too. Gold. Big old bucket, isn't it? No, no, whatever. How big is a gallon? Like, I think three and a half liters. That's a bit.

Oh, I'm in bigger. What's a big tub of it? Big tub. Barrel. Like a mega-leather. Three mega-leaders. Well, you've really sort of up the scale there. That looks good. I don't know what a mega lead is.

Mega lead is another thing. Mega do to. Yeah, mega leaders. Why? What, what, I mean? What's a mega leader? That's what mega trot strengths. Oh, okay.

Now I'm back on board. He drinks a mega leader of horse liquid. Water. Water, yes. The original term in the horse community They call it horse water. No, that was the original name for water horse water. No horse liquid horse liquid Sorry, I forgot. I'm confusing because I would think that's piss See that that is confusing that is confusing. You don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. No Horse liquid. No. Thank you. I'll just have a water. Oh, I'm afraid that water is the old name for piss.

Oh, a horse piece. I don't get this right. You get this right. It is, um, I believe. It is called love. Just listen to the rhythm of the heart. Don't let that do it. That's a chance we can make it. No. Well, we're looking at something goes down. I'm leaving a big girl love. Woo.

What happened? Yeah, that was the best bit to get her. I agreed. So, what happened to the darkness? This way is toffee. What happened to darkness? Really? That's the band that's how that song.

I'm aware. Oh, sorry. The way you said that was like. Yeah, because you, because the question implies that the darkness had one album fill of the face of the earth. And how fucking dare you. Well, I believe, I don't know if this is hyperbole.

I read in a rock and roll mag. The thing I had to call the band off for a few years because he couldn't stop. There's got to mustache. No, he couldn't stop partying Correct by being in a band. So right he's doing too many too many uh you went to rehab Subscene and like being in a band is not really good for rehab Second album came out better bass player

What it didn't have that guy with a cool curly hair but third third album. He was back He was back. Yeah. Yeah, the big mustache and the headband. I've seen him live. Justin's voice is that good life I didn't realize you were a big fan. You didn't take me to be the darkness fan, did you? I'm not a big fan, but I've seen him a few times. I love him. They're great fun. What do you mean a few times? I've seen like three times.

Well, they're festivals. They're own festivals or on the own. Uh, and I saw him, uh, two festivals and once on their own show, The Old Metro. Yeah, I think we were just as gusts that we were probably at the same show. Probably. All together. Yeah, he is before we knew each other. Yeah, I think we were just gassed that we were probably at the same show. Probably. Yeah, it's before we knew each other. Oh, they were awesome. I was so close to the front of the stage.

I had no idea it was in the room with such cool rock and roll fan. The Darkness. The Darkness could be. I had a poster of them on my wall as a teenager. Oh, that is awesome. I really love the Darkness. I got a T-shirt. I fucking love the Darkness. Every time you went to bed, you just pointed to the person and go, Get up! Do you know me?

Yeah. The first time I saw them out of festival, they played like a 40 minute set, it was when the first album was out, so they didn't, they only had an album's worth of tracks. 40 minutes set, Annie had a costume change in the middle. That's amazing. Fantastic. Yeah, they're cool. I once saw Marisee.

Sorry, sorry. Sorry. That's a real tangerine. Sorry to make it about a really cool guy, but... You know what he's been like, like, rank Christmas time, he's... He doesn't say some great stuff lately, but he's rocking a roll icon.

And even though he's in these 50s, he took his shirt off three times. Yeah, and then what, put the same shirt back on? Different shirt, then he came out draped in the Australian flag Of course, they're not to go sure Corsa did

Mars what are you doing? Corsa bloody dead. You say my mom you're 60. That's great. Anyway, we Man of a thousand noises. Yeah, they're good. Number 80. Morrisey. We've gone on a tangent early, because Dave, you have mentioned that this is probably the longest report you've ever in. I believe word count wise, this is the longest one ever, so we should get into it. And that's unfortunate, because the Sass twins are in full swing tonight.

Well, dear. Phil and Sassy. All right, on with this week's show, so if you haven't heard the show before, what happens is one of us has been given a topic suggested by the listeners for the listeners. That's right. By listeners for listeners. We are about you listeners. And it's my week this week to my week. And it's my week. My week. It's a week we celebrate miles everywhere. And I'm going to report on a topic just about, to not know what it is. And I've got a question

to get us onto that topic. And I say, when I say, oh, the humanity. What George Costanza, no, wait, is it George? No, it was the when the, was it Newman? It's male truck catches fire. I think. Is it a Newman weird? Newman. Yeah, I think we'd say Newman. Newman. Newman.

Newman. It's like our people from Sydney say stupid. That's a Sydney thing. Sydney thing. Stupid. So when I say other humanity, what do you think of? I was going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say Sydney say stupid. That's a Sydney thing. It's a Sydney thing. Stupid. So when I say other humanity, what do you think of it? I was going to say the Gutenberg, but that was an actor from police academy, wasn't it?

It's actually the Hindenburg. This week's topic is the Hindenburg Disaster. Cool. Exciting? I mean, not cool. What a monster. It's a ripping tale, I will tell you. And sadly for me, it does feature a few Nazis.

So, problematic. No comment. Sadly for you. Well, it just means that I know that I'll... Fuck it's yeah, you just like Nazis. Yeah, and researching them really hurt. Yeah. Thank you, thank you so much. This topic, the Hindenburg West has been suggested

by two of our listeners. Austin McPherson at ABSO I Love A 2001. ABSO I Love A. And someone who's just put their name as me or at Yink Scroola. I reckon we've had me, Yink Scroola before. Wow, well, goodink Scrawler before. Wow, well, good suggestions. Thanks me, and I really like.

Me. I like me a lot. And I think, um, I think, I think me enjoys when we talk about me because it sounds funny. To me. It does. But also to him. Me. I've just had my brain explode. My brain, not me's brain.

All right, so I had me brain explode. Me's brain exploded. All right. So, we're going to have a brief history here to get us towards the end of a bit of background. Just to start off with, do you know the technical difference between an airship and a blimp? Yes. Great, moving on. Is one filled with air

and the other one's filled with a gas? What's filled with a blimp? Hahaha. Can you, is one of them you're inside the balloon and you're bouncing around? Have it a good time. Yeah. And the other one's very boring. It's all about capacity, you know? Yeah, you're inside the balloon and you're bouncing around. Have it a good time. Yeah. And the other one's very boring.

It's all about capacity, you know? Yeah, you're inside of both, but one of them you're having a good time. The other one's very rich in volume. Well, one is very rich. They are both lighter than air vehicles, meaning they're filled with a gas, so they're both filled with gas.

That's lighter than the air around us. So when you let them go, much like a helium balloon, they just raise. Except unlike a balloon, they have an engine that can be steered from point A to point B. That's what balloons have been missing all this time. I've always said that. I have always said that.

Your idea was to add an engine to a balloon. Yeah, then you could, then you got to find it. Fucking remote control balloon, baby. Yeah, that's good. Woo. So an airship also called a dirigible. Excus, a dirigible.

dirigible, it's a technical term. I fucking love it. I love it. It's a juror adorable. Oh boy. Also, collectively called a zeppelin, which is the famous company that made the airships like the Hindenburg.

Also cool. What an airship or a dirigible has is they have a metal type of framework or skeleton that an outer skin wraps around it. Right. So when there's no hydrogen or helium gas inside them, there's still a solid shape. Got it. But a blimp, like the famous good year blimp, or the duff blimp on the Simpsons, has no metal framework, so it's more like a giant inflatable pool toy. So when you take the gas away, it goes, oh, sad mess on the crack up.

Easier to pack. Easier for storage. Put it under your bed, put it in your cupboard. Whatever. Put it in the suitcase. Put it in the hole. Put it in the suitcase. Take it, blimp.

Yeah. You can fly anywhere with that blimp. Anywhere. How far can you fly to blimp? Well, a long way. The Hindenburg one flew from one continent to another. Which we'll get to. There's also a halfway point called a semi-rigid

where they have a bit of frame white. But the Hindenburg is a fully. Half mungrel. Half mungrel. the Hindenburg is a fully... Half mungrel. Half, yeah. The Hindenburg is a full mungrel. Nothing's bringing that bad boy down. Except a horrible fire. Which we'll get to.

Same for a stiffie. Nothing will bring those down, but a horrible fire. Oh man. I've seen a couple go down due to fire. Dave. No more evidence. No, it's no more Dave. No more evidence, no more evidence. No more evidence. No more evidence, you're on it.

No more evidence, you're on it. I gotta go. I thought no. Bye. Ah. The defense rests. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

The modern era of flight really took off in France in 1783 when wealthy paper magnates the Mont-Golfier brothers. Fuck yeah. How does that name? Mont-Golfier. Mont-Golfier demonstrated the first light of an air hot air balloon. The Chinese had been using hot air powered lanterns for centuries, but the Mont-Golfier

brothers were inspired when they noticed heat put into a bag made it rise. I wonder when they first put heat in a bag. Fired in a bag? Fired in a bag. One says to the other, I'm out, Jack, this app. Oh, look at that guy. I mean, we've all farted in a bag. They just made a business out of it.

And they thought, if we get a thousand people to fart into this bag, we could fart in the moon. I said it before, it's a great idea. They built their own silk and paperline balloon and tested it without anyone on board. And it was a success. it's a great idea. They built their own silk and paperline balloon and tested it without anyone on board. And it was a success. That was a smart idea. It's not putting someone on board.

Well, they were asked to demonstrate their invention for the king. So they enlisted the help of wallpaper maker, Jean Baptiste Revion. Another great name. Look, if I say it so confidently, it sounds like I know what I'm saying. Yeah, it sounds like you said it right.

This time they constructed an even bigger and better balloon. And at this time, it wasn't known of going to a high altitude in an open basket would kill humans, because humans had never been up into the atmosphere before. So of course, the king suggested, let's test it on prisoners. Oh, what? Let's test it on one prisoners. All right. But instead, the Mongolia brothers chose to test the invention by putting on board a sheep, a duck, and a rooster, which would have been a crazy trip for the sheep. What a weird combo. And the duck rooster.

Yeah, what do they think they're gonna get three different bits of data? It's like, it's interesting, the duck explode it. But the sheep is fine. The rooster. We need more tests. More ducks. The rooster. We need more tests. More ducks. The rooster jumped out.

Fesil of ash. Yeah, well, you know what happens when the duck explodes. The next test always has to be a fox, a grey head, nat, and also a beaver with a little hat. And a gun. Why has he got a gun?

Self defense. To be something a two bullets. Either takes the other two out or takes that one out then himself. Which is what happened? No, the eight minute two mile flight across the Royal Palace of Versailles was the first flight ever to carry a living creature. And it was successful. So they didn't die. None of the animals died.

No ducks exploded during this flight. No. That's great news. Well, I was going to say this is a point. So we are not in sync today. A couple of weeks later, also in France, inventor Jacques Charles and the Robert's brothers, which is an amazing band. Yeah.

Jacques Charles and the Robert's brothers demonstrated a different type of flight they've been working on, a balloon filled with hydrogen. This flight lasted a whopping two hours and five minutes, a lot longer than the Mongolia brothers, and even had more advanced controls, such as a hydrogen release valve and sandbag ballasts. They could go left and right. Wow, not just up and crash.

Ha, ha, ha. Put it in crash. A couple of months later, they even had a manned flight. Oh, they put them up. So that's a very basic introduction to this new phase of life, lighter than air, aviation travel. And over the next century, many improvements were made to the point that it actually became a feasible source of travel.

Interesting. People started thinking, we could move people properly in these things and make money. Ah. An important person in what would become the golden age of airship travel. Was it so William Blimp? William Blimp. Or won't he? He will. He will Blimp.

No, it's a German man named Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin. Yes. So kind of, he's the German willy blimp. Ferdinand von Zeppelin. Sick man. F*** yeah. Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin. That's awesome. What's the lady version of a count? Gertes. Or can Tessa. Ooh! Countess Bob. I like it. Bob Zeppelin.

Vons Zeppelin. Countess Bob Vons Zeppelin. Bob Vons Zeppelin. That's a great night. Yeah, that's a great night. Thank you. Thanks so much. Well, the man the magic,

Ferdinand Vons Zepp. That's all I call him. Sure. Born in 1938, he had his first military commission at the age of just 20. He made the first of several balloon ascensions in Minnesota while acting as a military observer for the Union Army during the American Civil War.

I guess the idea there was that he went up in a balloon, tethered to the ground and used it as a lookout. Go up in the air. Have a look. In 1890, after a lot of military stuff. So four decades, he retired from the military and devoted his laughter, creating a rigid type of airship, one with a metal skeleton. It took him ten years to get the idea of the ground.

Pun intended. Oh, we could tell. Your face did a run up to that joke. Well, I wouldn't call it a joke. I'd call it a joke. He's first flight July 2, 1900. So the LZ1, as you call it, travel a small distance from a floating hangar on Lake Constance near Friedrichsstrafen in Germany.

And whilst it was not entirely successful, it had the effect of promoting the airship to the degree that public subscriptions and donations thereafter funded the count's work. Oh wow. So you've got a bit of crowdfunding going on. People saw it. It was like the crowd, you know, go fund me video, people watch it and I like it. Yeah. An early Patreon.

We get by on this. Hmm. Now the German government quickly noticed the advantage of airships over the as yet poorly developed aeroplanes. And when a zeppelin achieved a 24-hour flight in 1906, he received commissions for an entire fleet. All in all, more than 100 zeppelons were used for military operations in the First World War. What? I had no idea. Yeah, so they were, you know, because planes weren't super-alibal. As the war went on, they got bigger and better as, you know, because planes weren't super reliable. As the war went on, they got bigger and better as, you know, as we've talked about before, nothing like a war to get innovations happening. But our zeppelins were, you know, seen as a, a, a, a railway for carrying people and also

bombing stuff. Sure. And also the fact that when they come over the hill, they look incredibly intimidating because they're massive. The company set up a passenger service in 1910. Zeppelin's dream was transcontinental flight, but sadly he died in 1917 before this could happen. But after World War I, the US armed forces began building their own fleet of airships. The largest they ever built was the USS Akron. Built in Akron, Ohio.

Now that's something we haven't mentioned for all. Now how am I supposed to say Akron again? I'm sure that someone told me as Mendeva W. Sound in it, but then someone else said that that is definitely not true. I've heard you say or crime. Orcron, Akron, Akron, Akron. No, I don't know. I'm offended on behalf of.

Yeah, but it's definitely not Akron because that's how we used to say it and people did not like it Someone will let us know oh the humanity Akron Where tires come from the good you blib. Yes, it all makes sense. Absolutely. I think that is actually where it comes from Wow, unlike the hidden, the Akron or Orkron. Wasn't filled with a flammable. I think it's Orkron. It wasn't filled with flammable guests like Hydrogen this one, like the Hindenburg, but the Rareer, but less flammable helium. The Orkron was the world's first purpose-built flying aircraft carrier carrying FC-9 Sparahawk fighter planes

Which could be launched and recovered while she was still in flight which is pretty amazing So planes come out of the blimp go around and come back into the blimp. What I say blimp. I'm gonna get in trouble for that airship Thank you. I was about to get you about to get in trouble for that. Yeah right here How big is it? Massive. Holy shit. That big. Oh, it's, and it's the biggest one they ever made.

Sadly, the Orcrone was destroyed in a thunderstorm of the coast of New Jersey on the morning of the fourth of April 1933, killing 73, so if you slip it in. And I'm trying to tell you that 73 of 76 crewman and passengers died Yeah, at three so why? Whoa Is that Google coming back for another round? The I don't even mean to do that, but it is him droids dropping his mouth truck And it's on fire because I think like Kramer to do that, but it is him drooling his mouth. And it's on fire. And it's on fire, because I think like Kramer dropped like that was like a,

oh, God. It's been several weeks now. You still have a good idea. Who's your fucking phone? But he, yeah, there was like, was it the one where he, a Kramer had his own section of highway? And he, he made it roomier. So he made his little section, so everyone had like a lane and a half.

I think it was maybe his own emerging ideas, and then an iron got caught under the thing, and it was a sparking. That's right, yep. And there was petrol all along the road or something. And then it was humanity. And the flames got across the dashboard. As a kid would have laughed and laughed,

and then would have had no idea what the reference was of the humanity That's funny Newman said it Newman, oh he's funny you haven't seen something out of you It's really I've got the box. I did you on borrowed that So great. It's really check it out. So great. So easy to watch heaps and heaps of it I can't feel it nothing about me as soon as you tell easy to watch heaps and heaps of it. I do. If you feel it, nothing about me.

As soon as you tell me to do something, I am 100% not going to do it. The show you will hate is called SignFilt. I'm going to watch the box set. Oh. If only I knew someone who owned it. Well, I don't want you to borrow it. Give it to me. Okay.

Yes. I worked out well, two positives are there. I'm back to the Orchron. So it's a big disaster. This accident involved the greatest loss of life in any airship crash. Even more than the hint. 73 out of 76. Yep.

Wow, that's all. The worst part being that a second airship that went out looking for survivors also crashed. Oh, Jesus. Feeling two more people. No. Pretty bad. So airships didn't have the best safety record. In fact, here are a few more of the worst crashes before the Hindenburg leading up to

it. So, in 1921, at the time, the world's largest, largest airship was the British R38. R38. Oh. So, that's a much more intimidating name, the R38. It was destroyed by a structural failure while in flight over the city of Hull. It crushed into the Humber estuary, killing 44 out of the 49 crew on board. Then the next year, in 1922, the Italian airship, the Roma, which was purchased by the US

from the Italian government, crashed in Norfolk, Virginia, killing 34 people. Oh, dear. It was the last hydrogen-filled airship flown by the US military. All subsequent ships were inflated with helium, including the ore chronostruck about for and that still didn't go well. So they're just going through it. They're working their way through the periodic table. Next is lithium.

Okay. Helium. Okay. Helium. Helium. Okay. Helium. Helium.

Helium. Helium. Helium. Helium. Helium. Helium. Helium. Matt doing over there? Okay, Google, how do you pronounce acronym HIO? That's pronounced acronym HIO. Well, I mean she also has an Australian accent. Oh, does she? Yeah, right, so that doesn't help. That doesn't help. The Dix Mude was built by the Germans.

That's great. What the, what? Dix Mude. Dix Mude. The Dix Mude. Oh, yeah. A Dix Mude. Oh, Dix Mude. Dix Mude. Dix Mude. Dix Pew. Oh yeah. A Dix Mewd. Oh, Dix Mewd.

Dix Pew. Dix Pew. Dix Pew. You're talking about Gism? That's funny. Thank you. That's rule number one of comedy. Gism's funny and funny.

That's an Dix Pewin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha fucking joke. Anyway, the Dixby was built by the Germans. I'll give it to France after World War I as part of a raw war reparation, but the that totally backfired when it exploded in midair 1923 of the coast of Sicily killing 52 then in 1930 the new King of the world's largest airships. The British R101 crashed in France during its maiden overseas voyage, killing 48 out of 54. Why did they stick with these things?

Stop flying them anywhere. After that, the British gave up. They called it. They called it a day. They're like, this is an up. Classic Brits. So, as you see. Yeah. Let's keep throwing people out.

You're right. So as you can see, it's not super duper safe sounding. Although in fairness, I will say to an outsider, if you listed all the aeroplane or train crashes ever, I'm just going to give it to them without any other data, you'd be like, why are we using those? Yeah, true. Good point. So a lot of aeroplanes explode mid-air.

Not enough. What? David. Not enough to correlate with any data is what I mean. Right. Okay. Cool. You really got to finish your sentences, man. Ha ha ha.

Not enough. To correlate. Sorry, I have a tonal problem. I'm a scientist. If I had my way. We'd have more data. Of course, I'd rule the loss of life. But now we've come to the Hindenburg, the D-lag, which is an acronym, translates to

a German thing that translates as German-Aorship travel corporation, was the world's first commercial airline service. It was founded in 1909 and then in 1935 merged with the DZR whose fleet included the LZ129 Hindenburg. Hindenburg's just a cool, like it's fun to say. Have a go. Hindenburg. Was that fun? Yeah, that was great fun. Everyone ago will pause for you to have a go. Fun, wasn't it? So it's fun. Hindenburg, I went back for seconds. Yeah, got on you, why not? I'm pretty keep saying it.

Hindenburg. I'm gonna see if I'm gonna find an appropriate time between now and the end of the episode to say Hindenburg. Okay, all right. Okay. What about a restaurant? The Hindenburger. Oh, that's fun.

Airship themed. Right. It's asked to themed. So the restaurant has got the name of an item on the menu Yeah, it's the best selling item so just hidden burger king Sort of that's good and they only sell hot dogs. Yeah, I'm pleased fuck everyone Because some people just want to watch the world man like the hidden book want to watch the world burn like the Hindenburg. The Hindenburg began construction in 1931 and it took first flight five years later. So a long project.

It was named after the late field marshal Paul von Hindenburg. That's cool. Even though he's a bit tardy, they still named it after him. I think that's great. He was always late. It was always too long to get it. Me too, I was like, what are the late, okay. But also, when you've got a boring name like Paul, I'm glad you followed that up with the hidden bird. He was lucky. I mean, the thing that his parents chose was very bland, lucky. It's funny, you'd think a hidden of maybe that was sick of being so interesting.

Interesting. I can only say that, that's the case. He was also the president of Germany from 1925 until he died in 1934. He actually had quite a bit to do with how Hitler came to power. It's actually, how Hitler. Oh, sorry, how how Hitler came to power. It's actually higher Hitler. Oh sorry how hard Hitler came to power. Like God I'm editing this episode. I don't know what I'm talking about. Which isn't that far different from all the time. Interesting, okay. Right, so he kind of, he was actually the opposition

to Hitler, but then the Nazi party started getting lots of seats in their voting houses and he sort of had to make these concessions and then he died and when he died Hitler stepped in and declared himself, I'm in charge of everything and that's sort of where it all went wrong. Okay, okay. When you said that before, I was like, oh no, he was like, guys, let's make Hitler the boss. No, it was actually in opposition to him. So he's death, which he had no control over. Because he was very old. Yeah, led to hill. Okay. So he's a good guy. I've done enough research to say it was a good guy. I don't know. It didn't happen many times though, but could you one day do the rise of Hitler? Well, if we do this ship are in international waters, then maybe I'll do it. We do this podcast, not this ship. He's really pushing

ship. He's really pushing for international waters. It's gonna be really fun to get a whole bunch of podcasts, this is- Oh my God. Onto a boat and go to international waters. I've got it. Yes, we can do it. If I get to dress you in a little sailor suit,

like a little boy. That would be fun. Oh my God, you can be a pirate with that bed. Okay. I'ma be a wench. Ah, so sail be a pirate with that beard. Okay. I'ma be a wench. Ah, so sailor, pirate and wench. Yeah. What the wench again?

Is that a nautical thing? Yep. Yeah, right. Cool. I'm going to put in little shorts, a little hat. Oh my god, I'm going to be a little fucking lollipop blonde curly week. Big yes.

Yes. Oh my god, chip. Lollipop. Yes. I'll do it if I'm international water. Big yes. Yes. On the good chip. Lollipop. Yes. I'll do it if I'm international waters anything goes. Yes. All right, I'm in. Please do go on.

You really love international waters. I just love the idea of doing a pot out there. We'll probably get take like on the Simpsons when they go out there and then a bunch of pirates capture them. It's like, oh. We've already got a pirate and just point a man and we're in a way. You're point them in. And we're gonna...

You're a good thing. You have to do the negotiations. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're more the modern day pirates with like machine guns and rocket launches. So yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. That's all you can say. Yeah. I've been at a lot town research this character me hearties me hearties

Work the plan. Yeah, that's good Anyway, Dave keep going you doing great. Love you. Thank you. Love you. Oh It's interesting. He didn't imagine say you love you know, that's why I looked at him to try and cucks one out of him Love you Dave. Thank you. No, I'm doing this more for someone else. Oh. I'm looking at it. Oh, lovey Jess. I feel so full now.

Lovey Winch. Oh. Winch Perkins. Winch is a funny word. I have no idea what it means. I have some idea. I don't think it's positive though. I don't think it definitely sounds derogatory. I'm looking at a girl or young woman,

archaic slash humorous. Is it? Or a prostitute? There you go, two or something. So it's just a young, it's just a woman. What's the first one? It's female basically. Yeah, but they humorous. Well, they have like little, a humorous woman. No, it has subsection. So it's like this type of language is archaic or used humorously. Right. Then the definition, a girl or a young woman, definition two,

this type is archaic, a prostitute. Unstitute. I mean, the word prostitute's relatively archaic, isn't it? We say sex work in it, aren't we? Hmm, there you go. I'm just reading off Google. No one get angry.

Okay, back to the hidden bag. Interesting that you want to get back to the topic, sure. Sorry. Do you go on, please, Dave? Two were built. Two identical ones. The LZ129 and the LZ130. And they are still the largest airships ever built.

What's the L? So the Z is Z-Zeplin. Zeplin. I'm not 100% sure. Not Led Zepplin. No. Well, we'll talk about Led Zepplin a bit later. Yes. They are still the largest airships. They're pretty much the largest things to ever fly. Both by length and volume. Even bigger than the blue whale? Wow. That's huge. The flying blue whale. All right, the ship was 245 meters or 800 feet under and forward.

Sorry, the blue whale is a flightless whale. I just looked it up. Thank God for Google. Okay, Google, can blue whales fly? Okay, Google, can blue whales fly? She won't even answer a question. Just so you can imagine how big it is, the ship was 245 meters or 804 feet long. 41 meters or 135 feet in diameter, which to put into perspective, is longer than three Boeing

747s placed into N. Don't tell me another airship. Tell me, give me, how many Olympic pools? Longer. Well, I'm sorry to say any of it, it's longer than four good year blimps end to end. And only 24 meters or 75 feet shorter than the Titanic. And the Titanic, sank.

Yeah, because is this sort of the Titanic of the sky? Or vice versa? Yeah. Well, that's what we call in the episode. The Titanic of the Sky. In brackets, in the book. We could call the Titanic the Hindenburg of the seas. That thing that would be easier. Seas? Seas. Seeds. Seeds. Multiple seas? There's a few. Yeah. It is not right. I'm just checking. The seventh seas. That's where I sail. That's a few. Yeah, it's not wrong. I'm just checking the seven seas. It's where I sail as a pirate.

No, I meant that's true. So it's pretty much it's something the size of the Titanic, but it flies so it's huge. The adish, uh, a poop deck. It's got several what? Hundred poop decks. Yeah, it was literally covered in shit. The adeskin of thech was made from strong poop. It makes with cotton and linen. It was then made waterproofed with poop. And then tightened with a mechanical paint known as dope,

which could have been a terrible mix-up. Paint it with dope. Oh, god. Dope is a slang term for marijuana. That's where the humor of that bit comes from. You are the coolest stepdad on the puzzle. What do you got to know about cannabis is it's got a couple of names. Dope. Weed.

Grass. Fun grass. Leaves of high. Better than tea. Now that's good as a hero. Now you have a child, don't you mean? That's a cool dad. No, no, I didn't say cool dad. I said step dad.

Okay, I'm a cool step dad. You definitely cool step down. I'm sterile, so Too much dope dimming dimming. How cool you dimming Just go with the longest report you've ever written. I'm actually high now So Inside this thick skin the outer skin painted with dope for some reason, was 16 separate gas bags. So people that talked a lot, quit your bloody gas bags. A lot of gas bags. These gas bags are really good.

You never know. Sometimes you can predict where it will come. And other times you're like, wow, gas bags, gas bags. Just a little fact there. Yeah. Gas bags. Still got a, I'm annoyed that I'm not going to mention them that much more. Each of these gas bags are over 30 meters in height,

and they were all filled with the flammable gas of hydrogen. So what could possibly go wrong? Stop using hydrogen. All up, there was nearly 200,000 cubic meters of hydrogen. So what could possibly go wrong? Stop using hydrogen. All up, there was nearly 200,000 cubic meters of hydrogen. So a shit load, and this is very highly funbable. But because it's lighter than air, the lightest element on the periodic table, it makes the whole thing float.

Wow. So you put a lot of, a lot of floaty stuff in there and it floats. It's like an up when he has all those helium balloons. Yes. You just have enough helium it'll lift a house. Right. That's science. That's science. Bitch. Do with it. You just got science. Sun. Ow. Oh my arm. Stop that. I punched him when I said that. I got really enthusiastic. Somehow you're a nerd bully. Yeah.

The Hindenburg wasn't slow either. It could reach a top speed of 125 kilometers or 77 miles per hour, which of course by today's standard sounds quite slow. No, that's pretty fast. OK, good. I thought you were going to not be impressed there. But for comparison, a transatlantic journey

from Europe to the USA is 6 1 1,000 kilometers long. That would take an airship two and a half days. About half the time it would take for the fastest ocean liners of the day. Yeah. So you're bloody double, double it. But double it. Science. You got science there.

I think we just got mapped. Yeah. A branch of science. You got branched. Did you know I did a science in high school? You wouldn't pick it would you? Yeah, a branch of science. You've got branched. Did you know I did a science in high school? You wouldn't pick it would you? In like the last year of school.

Yeah, I did a science. What one? Psychology. Oh, counts. Does it count as a science? I thought it was all bloody guesswork. Huh? It's all about feelings.

Mm. I dropped science as soon as I could. Me too. I wish I didn't now because I wish I understood more about biology. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I understood. The biggest Achilles heel of this giant airship. Was it Achilles heel?

Was it Achilles heel. Why did they put one in? Some people thought it was dumb. And it was. Now the biggest Achilles heel, it's weakness, was bad weather. It could easily be blown off course, and it struggled to fly in heavy winds. Oh my god. This in turn can make landing quite treacherous.

Treacherous. Treacherous, which sadly we will get too shunned. I think bad weather is my Achilles heel too. Jerekin going from continent to continent, you're any chance to get in a little bad weather? I don't think so. Oh, thank God. If you're lucky, for the bit of luck, you'll be fine. You'll be all right.

It's such a funny. It's a funny thing to have stuck with. And of course, at this time, there's all those crashes. I'd spoke about earlier over the leading decades, the decades leading up to this. But at this time, the Zeppelin company had a perfect safety record across 27 years. Right, wow.

So they're doing well. It was by no means cheap to travel on board, either, with this type of travel considered to be extremely premium. It was, as I said, very fast, but also luxurious and limited to only a few passengers. Tickets cost $400. Whoa. Or closer to $7,000 in today's money. I can't pick to what it would be like, because I'm just imagining like the Simpsons

when they're inside the Blimpin, it's just like an empty balloon. With Sajobob. Yeah, but what's it actually like? Oh, I'll get there. I've got a good description of it. Oh, I'll judge it for you. Which is now this sentence that was coming up.

Ah, what I didn't realize, Jess, about this ship was the passenger decks where everyone hung out and slept were contained inside the actual hull of the ship, like you're imagining. Oh, okay. So they're not loose, I'll explain. I always imagined that everyone was in that little cabin thing that's attached underneath.

That's not the case, and that cabin thing is attached to the balloon is called the gondola or crew car. And this is where the captain, the crew, actually flew it from. So they're underneath. Hang on, do you think while they're flying and in the gondola, they're going, well, no, I'm gonna enjoy like a big piece of my soul.

And they're very superstitious, so they do that for 24 hours. They're always stripes, t-shirts. If they stopped singing, they thought they would die. Is that a classic gondola song? Mm-hmm, great. They sing to you. Did you go on, I didn't go on a gondola ride in Venice. Did you do that?

I did. Good fun. Oh yeah, it's great. And the guy, the gondolae, it was texting while he wrote us a lot. While he sang. And I said, and I said, have you ever dropped your phone in? And he goes, oh no, I said, is anybody ever fallen in? And he said, no, but there is always first time.

I thought he was going to murder me. So what you're imagining, the passengers are actually inside a section of the balloon. Okay. So it's not like the whole thing's hollow. They've just got a large section. So there's actually quite a lot of room. There was two decks, A deck and B deck.

And inside A deck, there was a dining room, a lounge for relaxing, a riding room, and viewing areas of... Riding? Sorry, riding room. Okay, I was like, they had... Oh, I was thinking Shetland ponies. Oh, okay. Oh, also the riding room, sorry, I wasn't expecting that. Now they had viewing areas on either side of the aircraft and almost all of the ship's 34 passenger cabins around this side.

B deck was where the crew slept as well as the kitchen and bathrooms. And perhaps most ridiculously, the Hindu Murg, which had more hydrogen than any other ship has ever had, had a smoking room. Oh, that's dumb. That's so dumb. No. Bad idea. That can't be the thing that brings it unstuck surely. I can't confirm the thing that brings it unstuck surely. I can't confirm nor deny. Well passengers, their lighters and mattress were confiscated before they boarded and inside the smoking room they only had one electric lighter so it didn't produce a flame.

And on board they could buy cigarettes and Cubans cigars. As a safety precaution I will say, it did have an airlock to keep the litz cigarettes away from the flammable gas, but to me it just seems like too big a risk. Yeah, that's dumb. What I would have done is still sold us the guys, but just made the item if they want them. You got to eat them. That's it. I think that's very, I think that's a fine compromise. I think it's a fine compromise. Thank you. I'm sure let's get the nicotine somehow. Yeah. You're right. Right. How about you just have a spoonful of concrete and harden the fuck up. That can't be any more bad. Just go two days without one. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. That's what I

thought. I'm so sorry. Geez, I mean, we cast our spursions now against the smokers. We might find out that it was one of the non smokers who was,ers who was rubbing two sticks together. We just don't know. Just for fun. In the riding room. Not in the riding room. So those flammable exercise books.

I imagine they would have had books. Books. That's what you ride on. Got it. Speaking of flammable, many times when I was researching this topic, I asked myself, why was it filled with the flammulant gas when helium was clearly being used by other ships? Because the helium would make your voice all funny. That is one of the answers. The other answer is, it turns out after the disastrous crash of the hydrogen-filled British airship,

I mentioned before, the R101, Hindenburg designer Hugo Eckener sought to use helium. That's what he, that was his ideal situation. However, the United States at this time had a monopoly on the world to play of helium and feel that and fear that other countries might use the gas for military purposes. So they banned its export and the Hindenburg was re-engineered because they could only get their hands on hydrogen.

Imagine helium though, as a weapon. I think it was under little something. I like this. B-b-b-b-b Yeah, that's. I assume that inside their territory is where? That's where healing comes from. Because I was a large supply of helium at that time was. That's a helium mine. Now you can just go to like, Lombard the paper people and get a tank of it. Oh, I think of it.

They've got it. They have to use helium at Lombard the paper people rather than the vulnerable one because they've got so much paper. I asked them, for those balloons I got for our 100th, I asked for hydrogen in there, but they said, no can do's, Bill, baby doll, helium for you. Why do you ask for hydrogen out of interest? Because I wanted to settle on fire. Love it.

I thought it would be so rock and roll. And I would have been spectacular. I wanted the best for you guys. That 100th show is also the venues last show because we burnt it down. That is so rock and roll. Not to be the case, and now we have to go there

for comedy festival. Damn it. Well done, Jess. I'm so tried. Doh. She's petrioling next time. All right. There's some other flammable things.

Anyway, what do these passengers have to worry about? The company had a good track record and before the disaster over the course of two seasons. The Hindenburg had already carried over two and a half thousand people across the Atlantic between Germany and New York and then Rio de Janeiro. It'd be fun, pretty confident. You'd be confident. Well, you're going to play now.

It's like, well, I suppose there's been disasters in the past, but it's been pretty good lately. Not on Anset Air. I'm about to board with. Now, unfortunately for me, because of the jokes that people make, it can't be skipped over that Adolf Hitler had become chancellor of Germany in 1933. Also unfortunate for the people of Germany, should say. And the world.

Daviesa? Yes. Were you saying that Hitler, rising the power, affected you more than anyone else? Dave. hang on. Is that what you're saying? Look, it is not what I'm saying. Interesting. How he changes his tune.

World War II was a couple of years away where the Hinderberg was flying around. But operating the larger ship ever built was seen as a potentially great PR move for the relatively new government, the Nazi Party. The Hinderburg had a large Nazi swastika on its tail, and operating the largest aircraft ever was seen as a way of showing off the might of the country. Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Gerbels ordered the Hinderburg to make its first public flight

in March 1936 as part of an aerial tour of Germany. Four days, the airship blasted patriotic tunes and pro-hitler announcements from specifically mounted loudspeakers. And at the time, small parachutes with propaganda leaflets and swastikers were dropped on German cities. No. Yeah, is that outrageous? That is incredible.

And then later in 1936, the Hindenburg, with special Olympic rings painted on its side and pulling a large Olympic flag behind it, made an appearance of the opening ceremony of the Berlin Olympics. Right. What? I had no idea about any of that stuff.

No, I didn't. Do you know much about the Berlin Olympics? I can't remember was that, was that a point where people were already onto Hitler being a fuck fuckhead? Yes, so were people like boycotting and stuff? Yes, but I don't know if people were boycotting, but that was Jesse Owens the famous black American runner. I

Remember he really he really upset Hitler by beating all his Aryan white people. Right. So yeah, so America was there. So it was long before people were really taking a public stand against him. Yes. Well that didn't really happen to ride into the war, wasn't it? Because they kept saying, oh, it's going to be okay. Anyway, I mean, it's kind of outrageous that they gave them the other bigs. Everything about it is so bizarre. I'd love you to do an episode about it one day. Well, international waters is calling. International waters. But imagine him doing it a little sailor suit.

It'll be so funny. That would be great. That would be great. That would be so cute. It would be an interesting topic. Hmm. Hmm. No arguments here.

I'll consider it. Thanks, though. But don't want any. It's been in the people specifically asking for you to do it for a long time. I'd like to say, enjoy making Nazi jokes, which I'll consider it. Thanks, though. Just don't want any. It's been in the hat. People specifically asking for you to do it for a long time. I just can say, enjoy making Nazi jokes, which I do not enjoy. No, but this, this, this goes way back. People have stopped on that. They respect you now, as you will ever sense you publicly renounced your membership. No, no, publicly denounced to the regime. Yeah. Which inside I'd been doing my whole life, just hadn't done it publicly. Right. Yeah. Which inside I'd been doing my whole life,

just hadn't done it publicly. Right. Yeah. It's sad that you had to do that. I mean, if any of you come out on the record, I had to say, say your auntie, you're blah. No, we haven't had to do that. I haven't had to, no.

Because it goes without saying for us. Oh well. Now who's a fuckhead? You Matthew. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was a gay man. I'm like, I'm not sure. You are. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. You are. Oh, it's always been me, sure.

Now who's a fuckhead? I'm sure you'll tell me. Because it was such a symbol for the Nazis, the Hindu-Berg. On board, they were worried that anti-Nazis might sabotage the flight and reportedly, they may have had an undercover plane closed police officer on board. Could this be what caused the disaster? Oh, foreshadowing. The flight path for what would be its final journey was from Frankfurt in Germany, where it would travel across the Atlantic Ocean and land at a naval station in Lake Hurst, New Jersey. Being on time was extremely important for the PR of the

company, as well as the Nazis. As many rich and wealthy people were planning to catch the ship's return journey to attend the coronation of King George the 6th back in London on the 12th of May. So it's got to make it there so these rich people can get on board to get back to the UK. That's Elizabeth's grandfather. Farger. King's Beach Farjo. Yes. No, I think grandfather. No. Father. Right. The father, the one with the Bertie. Yeah, yeah. Bertie's the father. Right. Yeah. So, so the other guy's already dead. Yes. Well, that's why what what is this? This is 19. 36. Gotcha. I watched that movie recently. Such a good movie.

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From now on I will say every place name in that accent. Excellent. Hindenburg left Frankfurt. On the evening of May the 3rd, on board with 36 passengers, which is half its capacity and 61 crew members. On board with people from Germany, Sweden, Mexico, the UK, Denmark, and the United States of America. How come they had so many crew?

That's heaps. I think, well, I just had a lot of people to operate. Also, it's very luxurious, you gotta remember. So it's kind of like having everyone's in first class. They all get. Pretty much everyone has their personal crew member. I know they're not, I know you're not gonna get the captain to get you a drink, but I'm just saying,

there's a lot of crew. Any lot of crew. Yeah, because I guess they also have people in the kitchen, you know, they got people cleaning stuff, they got a bunch of people flying it. Missus, so. And the way that they fly it, if I am correct, is a long line of bicycles, stationary bikes. 61 people.

61 stationary bikes, peddling, peddling, carrying it. Pedal power. That's how they operate, yeah? Yeah. Fantastic. Oh, is that true? You do know a lot. That's one.

There's lots of different people on board from different backgrounds. And a really cool website we can look up and read about everyone is faceofthehindenburg.blogspot.com.au and just a few of the people on board that will follow on these are the more famous people that are often mentioned in documentaries about the Hindenburg stuff. The Captain, Captain Max Pruss, the Hindenburg was captain by this 46 year old man, a highly experienced pilot who had flown for two decades and was captaining the Hindenburg on its 23rd flight.

So he bit it the hell many times. Also on board was Rudolph Anders, a 63 year old man who was owner of the German company T-Cain that introduced T in Tins and an early precursor to T-bags. He was a very, very wealthy man because of this. The company also invented the first machine that made T-bags. The first guy to mass produce T-bags.

Today, the family run company is still the world leading company, the production of T-bags and produces seven and a half million of them every year. Just the bags. I think they're putting the tea in there as well. Wow. Wow. Fully rounded business.

Yeah. They've thought everything through. Like on the Simpsons, when they go to the box factory, and he's like, what's gonna go in here? Puppy's fireworks. Are any of those here? Oh no, we just make boxes.

And then it turns out they get assembled in a separate factory. Follow the yellow line around my office. Joseph Sparr is very interesting guy. I was on board. He was a young acrobat. He had immigrated to the USA and developed a comedy acrobatic act where he was called Ben Dover.

acrobatic act where he was called Ben Dover. You get it? Like Dover, the white cliffs in England. Yes, he was very high. Ben Dover is very pale. Do you use to acrobats of a cliff? Sort of. That is good. It's got two meanings.

It means both Dover, his surname and and also Dover the City, like the Cliffs. No, man. The white. The white. Bloody Cliffs, they did a call to him. That's good. Should have called him Ben Cliff. Ben Cliff.

Now that's funny. Oh, dear. This is a quote from the face of the Hindenburg Blockspot. His signature actor's Ben Dover was to drunkenly stagger out on stage in a rumple top hat and tails, search at length through his pockets for a cigarette, which of course was eventually discovered to have been in his mouth all along. Then he would shimmy up a pole of a gas street lamp to light his cigarette. No, Dave.

No. Don't tell me Cliff did it. For shadowing. I hate, he brought a dog with him to give to his family as a surprise pet and a caught fire. The dog did it for shadowing. The dog bit a hole in the in the linen bag. So the dog had to be kept underneath and to feed the dog, a spa had to be accompanied by a crew member who would take him into that restricted area. Oh, what's he being a bit dodgy, man? Doggy? Was he being a bit doggie style? Was he banned over? He was

banned over in doggy style. Oh, it all he? He was bend over in Tokyo style. Oh, it all makes sense. Oh, I know, I know, I know. And the final people I introduced you to are the Derner family. A German family, the Derner's Roan board, and included Father Herman. Wife Matilda. Herman Derner. Herman Derner?

Well, it gets better. No, it can't get better than the children Derner. Children Irene, 14, Walter Ten, and Werner Eight. Werner Derner! No, can't get rid of the shield of dinner children Irene 14 Walter 10 and Werner eight Werner, Dernah. Oh my god. He fucking told me I would get there I did I didn't think you could talk him and Dernah and I was like no Dave There's no fucking way Irene Dernah fuck off. Well, it's probably and I was gonna say every pronounce a Werner Dernah Werner Dernah Not Werner Dernah the Werner Well, it's probably, I know what it means. I was gonna say every pronounce Vener Dana. Vener Dana. Oh, not Vener Dana, the burner. He did it for Shadow-Wee.

It's a real who-done-it party. That's great. It's a bit of a murder mystery. Who's gonna do it? So, Vener Dana, the youngest one, I'll talk about him later, and I'll talk about all of it. They were a wealthy family that lived in Mexico City

where their father had worked for a German company for two decades and had become a Mexican citizen. Interesting. Verna Dana. I'm going to name my first child Verna Dana. One word? Yes. So he's vaccinated actually. Verna Dana Perkins. I must have changed my name. My surname will be Verna Dana. I think the kid will be Van Adena, Van Adena. Van Adena, would it? Are we going to... Top ten names we've ever had on the show?

Yeah, I reckon. Top ten. Van Adena, Van Adena, Van Adena. If I had more time, I'd go back through. Are we going to school, Van Adena, would be a great learner. Do you think? Yeah.

I don't think you would be. I don't think you would be I don't see if you could at You know you already done better. I think he'd grow a lot of forest plants. You'd be a Fernodona be great I think it's really a to-dairy at one point Fernodona does a lot of chanin chana I've seen a dinner the chana. I'm saying it, he does a lot of churn. Churn. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it.

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Crazy. Can you shit together Sydney? I have tweed in what you think Verna're so wacky up there. Crazy. Can you shit together Sydney? I have tweed in what you think Verna do and is up to. I'm gonna talk about it. Yeah, you talk about it right now mate. We're talking about it already Jim. I'm gonna talk about what he's up to. Oh my god, don't.

He's not the one. He lives. He lives. Oh shit. People survive. Maybe. You said what he's up to in the heavens. What a roll of coke. I'm not sure what to think.

So the Hindu bird. I keep forgetting that all these people are going to die. And the dog. The Hindu bird crossing of the Atlantic went smoothly and not much of note happened. So the first couple of days, it's going swimmingly. However, by the time it made it to the edge of the USA, it was running behind schedule because headwinds had slowed it down.

The airship was about 12 hours behind as expected time when it passed over Boston on the warning of May 6. And it's landing at Lakehurst was expected to be further delayed because of afternoon thunderstorms. This was not good because I remember it had a packed return flight to get it back on time. But had to get back on time.

Landing at the Naval Air Station in Laikos was delayed even more due to the predicted bad weather, so the ship's captain Max Proust decided to linger over New York City, giving the people a spectacular view of the city and people of the city's spectacular views of the ship. That's a nicer than circling a city because, you know, in a plane, looking through a tiny window, be a bit nicer from a blimp. Yeah, like, like, airship proper windows. Yeah. And there's some famous photos from, from the ground of the ship. Right.

Across. It would be super frustrating at the same time. Every time there's any sort of bad weather or it gets a bit windy that you just get delayed or cancelled. Yeah, like bloody tiger, am I right? For the first one. I've never really had any trouble with tiger, but... My virgin flight got delayed recently, so I mean, you know, that's supposed to be a full service here. That was when I was flying business class too.

Oh, what, that's hard to lay business. And I still didn't take off on time for me. You flew business class? I told you that. Didn't I have a free business class flight? What? Well, flights to Sydney for New Year's were horrendous legs bit like 300 bucks. It just with Tiger. And I had all these version points from Rocho, which are flights I don't pay for. Oh, how'd you do that? What do you mean? show, which are flights I don't pay for. Oh, how'd you do that? What do you mean? How'd you get points for that?

You, I'm, I'm put in a card in. When you? Yeah. We should talk about this off the show. Yeah, definitely. We did not have much time left. At 4pm, the Hindenburg arrived over Lakehurst, but where I was supposed to land.

But the weather was still anything but ideal for landing. Commander Pruss decided to take the ship south-east to get away from the weather and returned after a detour. When in land came back. At 612, the airship received a message from the ground crew saying conditions now considered suitable for landing. 11 minutes later, an even stronger message followed that said, recommend landing now.

At 7pm at an altitude of 650 feet or 200 meters, the Hindenburg made its final approach to the Lakehurst Naval Air Station. They decided to employ a high landing known as a flying moor, because the airship would drop its landing ropes and more encable at a high altitude and then it would be winched down to the... Winched.

...wentstown. Just more than death. So they kindown. Just won't do that. So they kind of... I always bring it down. Basically, they're really in like a giant fish on a... Yeah. Fishing cook. This type of landing maneuver would reduce the number

of ground crewmen, but it would require more time. Although the high landing was common procedure for American airships, the Hindermerger only performed this maneuver a few times in 1936 while landing in Laker. So it's not like a super thing that they normally do. Not like standard protocol. Everything seemed to be going okay. And at 721, while the Hindenburg was at an altitude of 90 meters, 295 feet, the mooring lines were dropped from the bow. The starboard line was dropped first, followed by the port line. So they've dropped their ropes and they're starting to be wrenched in. And because everything was going fine at this point, passengers were preparing to

disembark, but suddenly in the control car, the crew felt a big jolt. One of the crew members yelled out, the ship's on fire! Why? Because the ship was on fire. Oh, shit. Good observation then. It's good. Flames were visible towards the back of the ship. Then within seconds they spread to the hydrogen gas bags, and then it was only a matter of seconds. I forgot, I forgot, so sorry.

And then it was only a matter of seconds before the whole of the aircraft was engulfed in a massive flame. How? Smoke the gas. Oh. Remember, it was on fire. Yeah, but how did the fire start?

Oh, well, we'll talk about that. Smoke billowed hundreds of feet into the sky. As the hydrogen in the rear of the ship burned, the rear of the hydrogen lost its lift and it fell to the ground, and its nose pointed upwards at a 45 degree angle. Oh, do you know how like the Titanic goes, splitting up, and it kind of looks upwards at a 45 degree angle. Oh, dear. But anyhow, like the Titanic goes, splitting up, it kind of looks like that at first.

It goes up and then it crashes back down. Shit. The front of the ship lifted up over 100 meters into the air. The fire spread unfathomably quickly, and in just a matter of seconds, the entire Hindenburg was completely engulfed in flames. Then the airship fell from the sky and crashed into the ground. And just 34 seconds from when the flames were first noticed,

the whole Hinderberg was completely engulfed and smashed all over the ground. Shit. So quick. And at this point, even though the hydrogen had finished burning, it only takes a few seconds for it all to go, woo! The Hinderberg's diesel fuel burned for several more hours

on the ground so the ground is still on fire. Wow. Now, what happened to the passengers on board? I can't imagine. Much good. Well, the Dernafamily, we'll start with them. Furned in a. With the flames to seconds away, the mother of the Dernafamily, Matilda tried to encourage

our family to jump onto the ground, which at that point was 90 meters. No, so she waited till it sank back down, it was only a nine meter drop, which is still great. You can stop it from that. But her daughter, Irene, was paralyzed with fear, and despite her mum's pleas, she wouldn't jump. She just stood there frozen. Matilda grabbed her eight-year-old son, Verna Dernar, tried to throw him through a window, but he fell back into the cabin. Oh my god. Shit. Somehow she pulled us up together, got enough strength. She grabbed him again on a second attempt. She threw him through the window. What a legend.

And her other son Walter also fell through it. A tillder tried again to encourage our inners to follow her brothers, but instead she turned back into the ship towards the flames to look for her father, this is Irene. So Matilda, having lost her daughter, decided to jump to and follow her sons out. Oh man. Matilda, and her eight-year-old son, Verna Dürner, were very badly injured from the disaster, but they made it clear. Their father, however, is not so lucky. He never made it out. Irene was rescued by a crew member, but not before it being extremely injured and she died later from those injuries.

What about Walter? Walter also lived. And as of May 2017, when he gave an interview to the independent, Verna Dürner, then eight years old, is now alive at 88, and it's the last surviving passenger who was on board. Verna Dürner, you old fox! Wow. Wow. I'm

amazing. Some other people I mentioned before, Joseph Spar, bent over the acrobat. Well, he's... Anyone was a chance. He was the acrobat. Yeah. He's acting... He's acrobat skills came in handy and he jumped and I made it to the ground below. He injures his foot slightly but not so much. Of course, he's an acrobat. He's able to run away. He tumbles and... He knows how to fall. Yeah.

He knows. Sadly, the pet dog didn't make a... Rudolph Anders, who's our rich team-man, sadly, he didn't make it out. He died in the wreckage. Captain Max Pruss, he did go down with the ship, as I say, Captain Hoffman should. But when it got to the ground, he jumped out. Right. He got to the ground and he jumped out. Yes, so he's a, because he's in the lower, he's lower, hit the ground, he jumps out. He was badly burnt, like extremely badly burnt, but he's still hung around to help search for survivors. And he carried an extremely injured radio officer, Willie Speck out of the wreckage. Willie Speck, that's a good name. Willie Speck, respect, sadly later died,

but the captain pulled through. But because of his severe burns, he had to undergo several surgeries and he would later wear a prosthetic nose for the rest of his life. Shit. One of the young crew members, Verna Franz, he was only 14 years old,

he was walking on the lower decks, walk away when the disaster happened. He heard a huge bang and instantly knew something terrible was going on. Trying to find a way out, he tripped over and fell. He grabbed onto a rope and just hung on for dear life. His life flashed before his eyes like it was a film. A water ballast tank above him ruptured in the chaos and fortunately soaked the boy from head to toe which snapped him out of this days that he was in, which, and he went, I've got to get out of here, I've got to survive, and also kept the flames and heat away from where he was.

So this water just happened like a miracle, which blowed above him so he didn't get sent. He eventually kicked his way through the outer canvas of the ship and jumped out of a hole he'd created. It was a drop of five meters. He hit the ground and just started running. Wow. Incredibly, he wasn't injured. Wow. five meters. He hit the ground and just started running. Wow. Incredibly he wasn't injured.

Wow. Five meters. Yeah. Must be soft ground there, Lanygon. Where are about? So it's a naval base. Right. I think it's sort of a grass, big grass area.

Right. He'd been given a watch by his grandfather and was allowed to go back to the wreck the next day to search for it. And incredibly he found it. Oh my God. It's amazing. Someone's looking after him.

Yeah. He had an interesting life. Later on in life, he became an ice and a roller skate coach. Some of these people's included Olympic silver medalist, Marika Killis and her partner, Franz Ninjel. He died in 2014 at the age of 92 and he was the last surviving member of the Hindenburg crew. Right.

I imagine if that happened to me, I would have found God in a big way. I reckon I would have become a priest. Yeah. It's like this is a miracle. I would have bought a bloody tits, a lot of ticket, I tell you that, mate. Yeah. Yeah, that day. Well, he would have spent a couple dollars on a ticket.

What a spending couple dollars on a ticket? Well would have spent a couple dollars on a ticket? What did I count him on after the bloody cloth? No, I would have won a million dollars. Well, the craziest thing is that he's grandfathered actually bought him a lottery ticket and he went back the next day to look for it. He did not find it. It was burnt, horribly, horribly.

Oh, fuck. Should have kept it in the lottery. To another humanity. Well, I'm up to that section of the report. The Hinderbird crash is so well documented because many news crews were there to see the this exciting landing of the world's largest ship. Heavy publicity about the first transatlantic passenger flight of the year, because the first one of the season, but the Zeppelin to the US attracted a large number

of journalists to the landing. So you can go online now and you can watch footage of it. And it is harrowing even though it's in black and white. I'm gonna watch it. Oh, as I go to sleep tonight. Oh, that seems like a weird decision. Yeah. Good luck to you.

I'll let you know. I'll call you. Yay! This was a horrible choice. I can't sleep! All in all of the 97 people on board, only 35 died. Wow. That's a, that's surprising.

That's surprising. Although many were severely burned, which is not. Oh, it's not ideal. And one more person on the ground lost their life, which is obviously terrible. But when you watch the video of the disaster, like I was just talking about, you can online, you'd be looking at that thinking, no one's getting out of there. Yeah. It's 34 seconds between flames and burning mass.

Wow, that's incredible. It's like even if you're, because you can watch in real time and you're like, all right, you've got time to realize what's going on, formulate a plan and get out. So to hit the ground and then flew up into the sky again. Is that right? So what happened was the back went down,

so it went up in a 90 degree angle, and then it all just, like I was talking about a blimp at the start of the episode you take the air out of this sort of goes Hmm, right, but it's just flames everywhere So the people nine meters up that was just to basically jumping out from the bottom the bottom of the balloon Yeah, because the thing underneath is about nine meters tall or something. Oh, no, it's just that at that point That's where it was. Right. Eventually, just went in the end, it did kind of depend where you were. If you survived, right. There was a whole sections where people were like, just had no hope, because they're

at the, you know, I guess towards the back or there's no, no windows. Someone was talking about one of the doors jammed or something, which is awful. Anyway. But so you'd be thinking of you watching it. No one's going to get out, which is exactly what 31 year old radio It's so awful. Anyway. But so you'd be thinking of you watching it. No one's going to get out, which is exactly what 31-year-old radio journalist Herbert Morrison thought as he watched on.

Morrison is very famous for the line synonymous with the incident. Oh, the humanity. He's that guy. Morrison was on the scene to record the arrival of the Hindenburg for the WLS in Chicago. It's a radio station. But what I never realized is that he

wasn't broadcasting live. His emotional count, which would be heard in Chicago later that night, wasn't broadcast nationwide until the following day. But these days, if you watch it back, because people have just sink it up with a footage, it looks like he's commentating live. But it was completely separate. And what he, he says is, he starts out very normal, just talking about it. It's practically standing still now. The's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still now. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing. It's practically standing still. It's actually still. It's actually standing still. It's actually standing still. It's practically standing still. It's practically standing still. It's actually standing still. It's actually standing still. It's crashing terrible. Oh my get out of the way please. It's burning bursting into flames and it's falling on the Warring Mass and all the folks agree that this is terrible This is the worst of the worst catastrophes in the world. They're smoking their flames now And the frame is crashing to the ground not quite to the moring mass. Oh the humanity and all the passengers are screaming around here

So that's his most famous line out the end He did However, take a second to calm. He actually says, let it do, and I've got to go inside just to get a hold of myself. And he went on to calmly record another 30 minutes of narration of the unfolding events. But you know, it's less famous. His voice, which is very high pitch on the recording. I didn't realize this was actually much deeper. It was a helium. actually much deeper. That over Helium. Either that or it sounded high pitch because there was a playback error.

Right. Like the speed of her fast he was talking. So it makes him sound like, oh, they're humanity. But really it's like, oh, they're humanity. Right. Yeah. Oh, they're humanity. So we can just get Matt to do it.

It's a shame. Yeah, Matt say it. Oh, the whole manager. Yeah, fun fact. We actually speed Matt up when we play that. It's been an error all along. It's the only way to make him, what do you know? Do it, do they know how it happened?

What caused the fire? So I hear asking what caused the fire and then the crash. Next line of my report, this is good. God, we're so in sync. So in sync. While there have been many theories over the years, Matthew. Dog, mole people. Mole people, dog. Any of the people that I've come.

Somebody lighting, somebody lighting their farts. That's funny. Dana, Dana, the burner. Van a Dana, the fat burner. Van a den of the fart burner. Van a den of the blimp burner. No. But should have given away, and I want to know if this wasn't a blimp, but he had form. It was just a terrible coincidence.

And the days after the disaster and official board of inquiry was set up at Lakehurst the Naval Base to investigate the cause of the fire. Their conclusion was that static electricity had started the fire. And this remains a popular theory. OK. But just flying through a storm, static electricity builds up in the air. You've only got to get a tiny little spark,

and then a thing filled with flamboyant guests. It's going to go up. In 2013, a team led by British aeronautical engineer Jim Stansfield and based at the Southwest research institute in the US, they came to this conclusion that the airship had become charged with static as a result of an electrical storm as I was saying, a broken wire or sticking gas valve leaked hydrogen into the ventilation shafts. When ground crew members ran to take the landing ropes, they effectively earthed the ship.

Now it's got a line to the ground. The fire appeared on the tail of the airship, igniting this hydrogen coming out the back and then the rest, as I say, it's... It's like a perfect storm, sort of. Yeah, literally a storm. So if it was, if they landed, in it, what was the other way they would have landed? If that was ropes, it would always be a big one. Yeah, so if it was, if they landed, isn't it? What was the other way they would have landed? If that was ropes, it would always be broken.

Rather than a high one, I think they can slowly just descend. Right. By dropping ballasts and all kinds of stuff. Other theories are a bomb, because the Hinderberg was a powerful Nazi symbol, was it brought down from within? Of course, this isn't, of of course this is an exciting option, but not many people seem to give it its plausibility actually much credit. Right. I've also done. Yeah. It sounds like a great movie.

The other front-run for theory is the IPT, the Incendery Paint Theory, which was proposed in 1996 by retired NASA scientist Addison Bain. which was proposed in 1996 by retired NASA scientist Addison Bane. He's the Addison Bane. I don't know what a name is. Yes. Give it to me. One time Addison Bane. Two time.

Addison Bane. Addison Bane. Oh, one time. Addison Bane. I love this guy. His theory, the IPG theory is that it had nothing to do with a hydrogen because the outside burned. He claimed it was called by electrical ignition of black. Addison Bay. His claim was that it was caused by electrical ignition of lacquer and metal

based paints used on the outer hull of the ship. His theory was that somehow the panor of the outside acted, it's got the same ingredients as rocket fuel. So his theory was the paint caught fire. Sure. But a lot of people are like, mate, what are you talking about? It's clearly the fun for all gas. Right. Other hypothesis include the airship being ignited by lightning, or a fuel leak in the gasoline engine's catching fire. But leaking gas spark by some sort of static electricity has definitely been the front runner for 80 years now. The most common theory as to how the gas leak was when

the ship sharply turned to dock because it had to do a quick little 180. A brace wire inside may have come loose and ripped a hole in one of the hydrogen air bags. I don't remember. I remember. Sorry, one of the gas bags. I read that they gave the hydrogen a garlic smell so that they would smell a leak if they

have had one. No one, no one smelled garlic, which is the biggest floor in the theory. I wouldn't reckon, like, if I smelled garlic, I'd be like, mm, dinner, I like a love garlic. That's why you gotta make it smell like farts. Yes. And I'd be like, oh, who farted? Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no.

Verna. Verna. Fat burner. You can't argue me to that. The garlic floor is that it would only have been detectable in that area of the legs, unless you stand right in that garlicky section. You're not going to get it whiff, you know what I'm saying? Once the fire was underway, more powerful smells

like burning wood of mass the garlicky odor. Opponents of this theory note that the fire was reported was reported as burning bright red while pure hydrogen burns blue, invisible at all. Although there were many other materials that were consumed by the fire, which could have changed the colour. It wasn't just a hydrogen fire, there's a lot of other shit on fire. Change the colour of your day. Hey, hey. Is that the crunching jingle? Oh, yeah. Basically, what I'm trying to say here, Matt,

it could have been one of those things that we never know for sure. That's right, this episode has secretly been a mystery the whole time. You son of a bitch. You son of a gun. You did it. You son of a bitch. Suck it in over an hour in.

You. I've been stuck in. I've been stuck in. He sucked it in. He sucked it in mate. Not surprisingly. Suck it up, suck it in. That's not quite right.

Not quite right. I enjoy it. That's better though. Not surprisingly, the world documented and widely broadcasted Hinderbird Crush and did the airship era. Interesting. The disaster probably in reality, though, fastened the inevitable. Because airships were quickly becoming obsolete by advances in aeroplanes that were now faster,

cheaper and becoming more and more reliable every single day. Even at that stage. Yeah. It's amazing though, yeah. It's the same fascinating that there were still, I guess the zeppelons were, they didn't see it coming. I never saw it coming. Germany grounded its fleet of hydrogen-filled airships after the disaster, but were never

able to replace them as the USA was the only country with substantial helium resources. The framework of the Hindenburg was salvaged and shipped back to Germany. There, the scrap was recycled and used in construction of military aircraft for the Luftwaffe as were frames of the graph zeppelin and graph zeppelin 2 when they were also scrapped in 1940. From then on, that was kind of it for zeppelands. And a fun fact to finish. Well, we'll see.

Let's see. Led Zeppeland. Apparently the band's name was Corn. Corn, really? Pfft. Oh, fuck it, hell. I'm so close to the end. Apparently the band's name was coined, I mean to say.

Yeah, originally their name was Corn, K-O, backwards R-N. But obviously, Jonathan Davis. Jonathan got there. He was like, oh man, man, oh man, oh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Remember, I remember frequent a leash for some reason he started like making noises for some reason? Yeah, spit a, he was scatting. Yeah.

Apparently the band's name led Zeppelin, we're back on, was coined by the crazy drummer of the who, Keith Moon. When Moon heard about this new band who originally called the new Yard Birds, I'm not sure Jimmy Page is old band, the Yard Birds, Moon said the band would go over like a led Zeppelin. Like a Zeppelin made of lead, so I would do it.

I get it. So I'm just explaining, so it's suck. But the band actually liked the name and, and they liked the challenge and went on to be one of the greatest rock and roll bands ever. So cop that Keith Moon, you're dead bastard. Ah! Nice one.

And lead Zeppelin's debut album cover is a photo of the Hindenburg crashing. That is right. That's radical. And that is my report on the Hindenburg crashing. That is right. That's radical. And that is my report on the Hindenburg disaster. I don't know if well done. Well done, David. It's a very good report, David.

Werner, but Werner would be very proud of you. Thank you, Werner. That was, oh yes. No, no. Hey, Dave, what a great fun time we've had here today. Thank you. We don't have a lot of time left in the, in the, uh, Samproof booth here, which isn't all that Samproof.

So basically all we've got to do is now say, thank you for listening to this episode. If you loved it, we don't say this often, but give us a sweet review. That'd be great. We don't say it often. Only every few weeks or so. I just, I don't think we've said it this year,

so I'm saying. I'm saying. I'm saying. Oh mate. Yeah, so let's thank some people. Yeah, and we got to thank the people that support us at patreon.com. So I should do go on pod. If you want to give back to the pod, we will take your money. Thank you.

I think we will. We really, don't make it sound gross. We really appreciate your support. It does help us be able to dedicate time and brain space to this fun show, which we love doing of course. We love it, but this was my longest reporter I would have spent over a day's work on it. I have an idea because you know how we have Bernadena, the fart burner. I think we should give everybody some sort of...

Rhyming last name? Yes. Okay, great. Who do you want to thank first? They're Jazzzy P. Jezzy P. I'll tell you what. You've never called me that before

and I fucking love it. Okay, great. I'm good, I didn't know what that was going on. I would like to thank from Ashburn. Is VA Virginia? Hell yeah. Ashburn, Virginia. Joseph, bar shop.

Oh, bar shop. Bar shop. That's a great name. Joseph, bar shop. The.'s a great name Joseph bar shop the The Spratley Bell Hop now doesn't quite rhyme does it? Oh, that's good pretty good the Local bus stop Hit my knee immediately after I said that's that's car. I'm a bar shop the cars mop Cars mop is probably the best you mop the cars

There's a bar shop, the cars mop. Cars mop is probably the best. See mop's the cars. Cars mop. Yeah, none of them quite. It's not a satisfying rhyme. Well, I didn't give us an easy, easy thing to do, did I? But, that was fun. I'm gonna vote cars mop.

Oh, cars mop. Joseph, we appreciate you, cars mop. And I'd also like to thank from Suffolk. No, in GB. Lee Banks. Oh, Lee Banks. Oh, Lee Banks. The townwanks. The town, the whole town.

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All right, I'm going to be home in maybe five minutes. You better not be out there doing anything crazy. He does it a quick deposit. What is he shitting in the bank? What is everyone else's wankin' that so? No, money. It's a sperm bank, sperm bank. He's also wankin' it.

Well, I won't you all w, so I don't feel weird. What are, oh, what? Thanks, Lee. Lee, well, Lee Banks. The town Wanks. The town of Suffolk. I'd love to thank from Cambridge in England. That great university city, I guess, is it? Yeah, I'm sure it is. Just looks at me like the fucked line, oh. It's what a hand and face gesture said.

Correct. I'd love to think, was another fantastic name? This whole episode has been full of great names. Dom Benatar. Benatar, the... Oh, I had something I lost it. Racing car. The tennis star.

Oh. The cool guitar. The cool guitar. The cool guitar. Tennis star. I can. Don Bennita, the tennis star. Yeah, I like that. Look at his face.

I'm just trying, but I think I'm full. I think I've peaked him so sorry, don't. Look at his dope face. And I'd also love to thank from Louisville, Kentucky. Drew Johnson. Swan song. I thought we were doing rhymes. I tried. You did one then, fuckhead.

I got a rhyme with John. Johnson? It's his surname, yep. The Pierce Brosnan. I love it. True Johnson, the PS Bros. It's another name. That doesn't work, but it might be a bit of a stop-tune.

I wish you could see their faces right now. It's like we're trying to crack some, you can't top peace, isn't it? Military code. Drew Johnson's the cool, no, you fucked it already. We don't have much time. All right, I'll keep going. Just give me peace, isn't it?

Peace, I'd say, peace, peace, positive, okay. All right, I'll do my I'll do my couple as well. If you want to come back to what you can, I would like to thank from Sheffield in South Yorkshire. Mr Sheffield! She-

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Ha ha ha. Let's go with fight strider. Good Jeter, the fight strider. I love it. Good Jeter is a sick name. Yeah. That's great. What about the purge beta?

Oh, that's good. That's good. Maybe it's a purge. Good Jeter purge beta. Fuck the purge. That's good purge. Fuck the purge. When? Fuck the purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge.

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It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. It's a purge. No, stop it. In international soil. In well, were you interrupting as not making it faster? Well, we have not done that. I would have already finished this very short fact that Saints played the first ever AFL game for Premiership Points in Wellington. So you just let you think about how great that fact is. It's a great fact, first ever.

From Wellington to go over 100 years before they did it. I would like to thank the Saints. I'd like to thank New Zealand for hosting them, but I also have to thank from New Zealand Mike Shirley Mike Shirley Mike Shirley whose hair is curly Mike Shirley the Big and dirty Big and a barely good spike

Shirley No Big and dirty. That's untwewy. Big and barely good. Spike, sirly. No. Your face said no. As soon as you said it, you knew you'd fucked up. This has been the worst of these games. What was the one you said, man? I'll be over that. I can't remember.

Big and sirly. Big and sirly. Mike sirly. Mike sirly. Big and sirly. There we go. Thanks so much to all those people. Did you love that? I'm sure you did.

We appreciate that. We appreciate all of you. Do you love us? We're sure you do. We do. And Mike, I was willing to be there. I'm so happy. Mike, if you were at the Saints game,

I was there the first of a Philgain played. Oh, I see this was in like the 1930s. No, it was in 2013 or something, 14s. Somehow that made that less interesting and I just didn't think it could. In the cake tin, I believe the place is called. It was just a sick place, beautiful spot. Loved it.

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