Two In The Think Tank - 121 - The Man In Black: Johnny Cash

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Starting point is 00:02:24 My name is Dave Wannogh. I'm here with Matt Shoe and Edmund Jess Perkins. So got your last name there. It's gonna say we've been doing this for a long time now and friends for even longer, forgot my name. Or was thinking of going middle name and then I realized I hadn't given one to Matt so bailed on it. I could. Fair enough.

Starting point is 00:02:42 Sorry. And if you go Jess, then you can't say middle name. That just seems weird. You got to go Jessica. And I don't like that. Oh, yeah, okay. I can see where you went wrong. I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions.

Starting point is 00:02:52 We can go. We can start again. Yeah. We really can. Stop fresh. It's good to be back in the pod studio. I'm back from overseas. I went to Mexico and Cuba.

Starting point is 00:03:00 That was good time. Yeah, I wonder if wonderful listeners could tell, they could hear any of those trumpets in the background. From the last few weeks. From the last few weeks. And I was recording on location. Everyone. I demand to be on a beach every time.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah. You were phoning it in. Which was weird, because we were like, Dave, there's actually a better connection from the hotel. No, no. No, no. From the beach. The beach is calling.

Starting point is 00:03:24 Matt's been in Perth as well, and I've been holding down the Ford in Melbourne. On the beach. I reckon I'd be surprised if you had more burritos in Mexico than I did in Perth. I had zero burritos in the next turn. Lots of tacos. All about the tacos. There was one day I had two burritos in the one day. You said it like it's a bad thing.

Starting point is 00:03:45 No, I certainly didn't intend to that way. I'm not, that were different burritos. I have, when I was in Italy, I ate pizza at least twice a day and gelato also. Well, yeah, you were, I mean, you getting pizza in Italy is very similar to me getting burritos in person exactly It's like a wedding culture. Yeah, it'll be offensive to say no

Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, you simply must I wasn't going in the shops and asking people were offering walking down the street as his Culture they go burrito sir. What do you say? I've already had one already had one Can you say that? No, not in not in the Perth culture. No, it's a slap in the face. So offensive. You simply mustn't. You simply mustn't. And that is why Perth is the greatest Australian city. Yep. Yep. Paritas with every every meal. Every meal. Give free burritos. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you did the right thing. Thank you. Glad someone gets it. But it is good to be back.

Starting point is 00:04:47 It is good to be back in the podcast studio. Jess has already commented on my tan. Thank you. Yeah, you're looking great. From all those beach recordings. You're glowing. We've both been on the beach and we both look, yeah. Much the same.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Much the best. Somehow I look palo. Yeah, I don't know how you did it. Hold on. Thank you. Sunsmart. SPF. Thank you. Sun smart. SPF 100 and 50. Oh.

Starting point is 00:05:09 What I did was basically not going out until the sun went down. Yeah, okay. All right, that's clever. Yeah. I've done a lot of savings over there. No, so it's three hours different. I'm genuinely the thing that makes you feel tired

Starting point is 00:05:23 when you travel. Jet lag. Oh, wow. Oh wow, okay. Where I came from was 17 hours behind. And? I feel fucking great. That's almost fun off around that you're back to where you started though. Okay.

Starting point is 00:05:37 Okay. Yeah, no, that's, can't fault that logic. Yeah, that's how time works. That is definitely how time works. If you say you like for 24 hours, you just reset. Yeah. That's what I find. When I do those late night radio gigs, I'm awake for 24 hours. Yeah, you're tired, tired, tired, and hit the 24 and you go,

Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm good. I'm good, baby, let's keep going. It's Matt's turn to report on a topic that's been suggested by one of the listeners. I wrote a question, I wrote it at the very beginning. This is the question. It might be a little bit contentious. Let's see, let's find out. Okay, it's exciting.

Starting point is 00:06:11 What singer is defined by a color more than any other? Shaking. Shaking. Yeah, pink. See, the pink, I thought it was trouble with pink. Why? Well, I'm like, that is probably, is a good answer.

Starting point is 00:06:25 But it's not the correct answer. No, not that. No, not that. Prince is the other good one, yeah, purple, right? I also thought Prince and I, now I understand why this is contentious. So, look at the color. Give you one more guess each and then we'll, back on. I fall 65, I'm Blue, WD, WD.

Starting point is 00:06:43 I seconded that answer. No, but you did. I wrote down a few that I thought of as I put in day. I put Prince, Pink, I fall 65. Can't believe you thought of that. We spend too much time together. Yeah. Hope like, yellow.

Starting point is 00:07:01 But it is... My bad accent. Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. The man in black. Okay. Oh I like Johnny Cash You won't buy the end of this It's another one where we ruin people's heroes. No, I mean yeah, well, I mean as in I Like when I say I like Johnny Cash. Jess is already back pedaling. She knows what's gonna come now

Starting point is 00:07:23 Because I've seen walked a line. Yeah, I mean come now. Well, because I've seen Walk the Line. Yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, you'll, you'll. Is it called Walk the Line? Yep. Yes. I think and that, I mean that. And I've seen Julie Cox. Julie Cox.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. Walk out. Walk out. That's funny, man. That's a funny movie. It's so stupid. So the man in black, I didn't know he was called the man in black. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:44 All right. We had a song called the man in black and he's just know he was called the man in black. Yeah. Oh, right. We had a song called the man in black and he was just famously nearly always wore black through his career. And I think he said he did that because it was easy to clean. Yeah. But it was also like it all came into his bad boy image. It doesn't show up sweat marks either. Real smart.

Starting point is 00:08:00 So smart. Really? It's slimming. If you want a bad boy image, you wear all white and he keeps the blood stains. Yeah Like Andrew WK. Oh, yeah, who's blood? Anyone's just a bad bad boy. Wow. Okay. Any blood that people didn't want to give He's not at the blood bank taking this blood because that'd be making him a good boy He is not into that

Starting point is 00:08:22 Make him a good boy. Good boy, Johnny. I don't know what that sound was. It came out of my mouth. Is there anything you guys know that you want to... We've mentioned Johnny before on the Elvis Presley episode, the million dollar quartet. Yes, I didn't go into that because I've covered it before, but do you? Which I wasn't there for. Oh, the tomatoes were reportedly.

Starting point is 00:08:51 That's right. No, he wasn't reporting. He was gassing. It was just a famous moment that was where, yeah. I know, I think it's been made to be a bigger thing than it was now. I was in the 50s at Sun Records Studio. I think, and it was Johnny Cash Elvis. Was it Carl Perkins and...

Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, I looked at it before the end of the episode. Anyway, I remember we talked about it before, so I thought it would be boring to go through again. Let's start at the beginning. Oh, great place to start. Johnny Cash was, do you know what his real name is? John. Ethan.

Starting point is 00:09:30 Cash. Ethan. Cash is right, but his actual... Wait, really Cash is the... You think that out of those Cash's the made up? Yeah. Johnny. Well, always get John from.

Starting point is 00:09:42 John was John a middle name? Uh, no. Oh. He was born. His was John a middle name? Uh, no. Oh. He was born. His parents couldn't agree on his name. So his name on his birth certificate is the initials J-R. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:09:54 Not standing for anything in particular. I think I saw some, um, different sources said different things like they were arguing about different names. His dad's name was Ray. So I think the R was Ray. I think the dad maybe wanted Ray and maybe the mum wanted John. His parents were Ray and Carrie Rivers Cash. Rivers of Cash. Rivers of Cash.

Starting point is 00:10:18 Wow. He was born on the 26th of Feb, 1932 in Kingsland, Arkansas. Arkansas. And he lived, he's early years in a small house on a... Who's? Who's? Who's? Oh, sorry.

Starting point is 00:10:35 I thought like his parents, I was gonna say, but you were saying house. Who's house? Who's house? Who's house? Who's house? Who's house? And they were on a 28-year cotton farm.

Starting point is 00:10:45 Life was tough. The whole family worked the fields. You know, they were very working class quite poor and things were rough. The small house, I think, I think I've read it, it was a five room house and he was one of seven kids. Wow, there. Cash is a real ironic name. Too many kids. Do they know what was causing it? Just doing the international symbol for sex, which

Starting point is 00:11:19 is of course the finger dick, the hand mort. I was like, I won't say it. I hope that will. I think we, I think the first one I said that was on the Elvis episode. In 1944, when cash was 12, his older brother Jack, which you'd probably remember this from the, I think this was in the movie, his older brother Jack, who he really looked up to to was involved in a tragic accident. Well Jack was cutting wood one weekend. He was pulled into a table saw and he was cut badly and a week later passed away from the injuries. Oh God, you're pointing to your chest and you're getting cut in half. I don't think fully in half but yeah. I want the thing I was reading was like he dragged himself along the floor and apparently that made it worse

Starting point is 00:12:05 He had a big wound and he was dragging himself over a dirty floor Which obviously Yeah The court in a biography.com which is the One of my main resources in this report. He became more introspective, disjointed, or JR at this stage. He became more introspective afterwards and began to spend more time alone, writing stories and sketches. He's writing sketches. Yeah, I know, I read that in a couple of different things saying how he wrote sketches. I'm like, I don't know what that means in America, but it seems it's.

Starting point is 00:12:48 I would assume he's just sketching. Yeah. Drawing sketches. When you say writing a sketch, it's like a comedy sketch. Comedy sketch. I mean, I didn't see him as much of a comedic. And it's funny. I mean, everyone after his brother died, he became more introspective and started writing comedy sketches.

Starting point is 00:13:07 It doesn't really, they don't line up, do they? Jack's deathbed words about seeing angels affected him deeply on a spiritual level, according to the biography of the author. I saw angels and they told me to ask you to write more comedy sketches. He's like, um, maybe, well, what can we do with him? Say there's a fish, right? Back then, comedy sketches were about anything. It was a wild time. Unlike now.

Starting point is 00:13:36 No, now they're very specifically all about shopkeepers, as we know the rules. We all know the rules. Well, you know what we signed up for. Around this time he began writing his first songs and his mom also had devout Christian or a very Christian family. I think his brother Jack was likely to become a preacher. He was going down that path, very spiritual guy. And I think yet Johnny really took it on board when his brother was saying angels is like, well, this confirms it. So, yeah, his mom sent some talent and got scraped together some money and sent him to

Starting point is 00:14:18 singing lessons. But according to biography.com, after just three lessons, his teacher enthralled with cashers already unique singing style, told him to stop taking lessons and to never deviate from his natural voice. Wow. Which is cool. That's really cool. You idiot.

Starting point is 00:14:36 Not good business. Nervable business. Nervable business. Absolutely. Nervable. That's so big. I don't think I'll fall at it. That's a portmanteau of terrible and not good business. Not good. Yeah. Absolutely, marable. I saw you, you were the thing I felt. I think I felt that.

Starting point is 00:14:45 That's a portmanteau of terrible and not good business. Not good. Yep. Which is good, because you can't fully get all of that meaning in just terrible. You simply can't. When you throw in not good, then it becomes clear as what you're saying.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Nareable business. And you get the nuance of not good. What a moron! Take the money! What a moron! What a moron, which is a not good moron. It's just a moron, his name is Nora. Oh. Cash graduated high school in 1950 with his diploma displaying his birth name, JR Cash.

Starting point is 00:15:19 He worked briefly in Pontiac, Michigan, which I guess is where Pontiac said named after, at an auto body plant before enlisting in the US Air Force. Because Michigan's like, that's the home of the automotive industry in America, I think, like Detroit, Motown and all that, isn't it? Yeah, I think, classically, couldn't tell you. Oh, yeah, I'm not sure of it, so it is,

Starting point is 00:15:44 but I think yeah, back in the day. It was here in the Air Force that he was given, he was first gave himself the name John as they would not take on a recruit with initials for a name, which I think is a bit rich coming from an organization known as the US Air Force. It's the joke I wrote in this report. That's good. And when you wrote that, when you wrote it? I was with Evan, just down the hallway on the set Air Force. It's the joke I wrote in this report. That's good. And when you wrote that, when you wrote it, I was with Evan, just down the hallway I had a said Evan, I've written the joke

Starting point is 00:16:10 of the report, you want to hear it. And he said, and it was so hot in the office, the weird delirid. He thought it was good. He thought it was good. And he was wrong. He was wrong and I'm willing to admit that. No, I love it. Anyway, so J.R. became John Arkash, which is funny because later he became known as John E. Cash. That was yeah. I decided against it. I didn't write it down. But you said it anyway. Evan, I don't want to call you over twice in one minute. I've done it again. we're rolling. No. Like, I mean, we were, it was ironic. After just, you couldn't even give me that dog. Sorry, you know, not good dog. Not good.

Starting point is 00:17:00 Now recruit cash was sent to Lackland Air Force base in Texas for training. This is where he met Vivian Liberto. Not on the base, but at a local San Antonio roller skating rink. Oh, apparently he asked if he could skate near her. Near, but on near her. And she said, oh, no, maybe that's not what he said. He's like, can I, can I go for a skate with you? And she said he wasn't a good skater, but he hummed along to the

Starting point is 00:17:29 tune real good and it really pricked her ears up. Oh, what a cute way to meet. They dated. Like the kids these days on their interwebs. Probably meeting, unlike some sort of a digital roller skating rink of an anime Some sort of skating forum. Can I type my words near yours? Okay, stranger danger. It's stranger danger back away Roll away They dated for a few weeks before cash was sent to West Germany where he remained for three years working West Germany where he remained for three years working in communications, intercepting and deciphering Soviet radio messages.

Starting point is 00:18:11 Apparently it was a natural at this, intercepting their Morse codes and stuff. Through his time in Germany, cash and liberto sent frequent love letters to each other, which have since been published. A lot of them. Okay, I was thinking about this this morning. You know how often when a famous artist or a writer or a musician in this case dies, afterwards their letters are published. Do you think that when people die saying 50 years that are famous now,

Starting point is 00:18:38 people will hack their email and their family will give permission to publish that? Yeah, maybe it like I don't with letters. It doesn't. A betrayal of privacy. Yeah, but see, I feel that way it is a betrayal of privacy with email. But with letters, I'm like, that's cool, publish that, but they probably never wanted us to read them. No, well, yeah, no, I feel a bit uncomfortable about them. I think when time goes on, and if they're like, I guess there's probably a difference people go there such a and historically important person that

Starting point is 00:19:09 the public it's like a public interest thing and they're dead so it doesn't really matter but Yeah, so I'm gonna bid it about it's a little uncomfortable. I give you guys permission to hack my email But at the same time I think I don't want to I think um, you know like Subscriptions for porn. Yeah, I might I'll tell you to subscribe to porn the email Is it really? Yes, I just told you more porn please Thank you for that latest bit batch of porn I especially enjoyed the second bar past More of that. Love that. Awww. More porn.

Starting point is 00:19:51 One more porn, please. I've had my fill. Always room for one more porn. While in Germany, Kassel also kept himself busy working on his guitar skills. He formed a band called the Landsberg Barbarians, named after the Bavarian town where he was stationed, which is Landsberg, obviously. Landsberg Bavaria.

Starting point is 00:20:14 Which like, maybe that's Landsberg Barbarians' Landsberg Bavarians. So little plain words I suppose. That's possibly not true. They played shows for the fellow servicemen and also local Germans. Biography.com quoted cash as later saying, we were terrible, but the low and brow, the live and brew beer will make you feel like you're great. We take our instruments to these hunky tongs and play them till they thrills out or a fight started. I mean, that's actually not bad. I was going to tease you and be like, Oh, okay, we're doing impressions now, but that was pretty good.

Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, keep doing that. That's good. I like, yeah, you know, like a real, to us, it's like that sort of sounds American to Americans. If you're like, what is that? What are you doing? Like when you hear the Australian accent like oh yeah good dolly might he is not gay one that will say it's great when you're overseas and you do hear the Australian accent like I was on a bus going back to the airport on the trip I just got back from and then you just hear this guy get on go excuse me just put this bus got Wi-Fi

Starting point is 00:21:27 It's like cringe Don't let him hear me talk my people. I don't want to sound like that Wi-Fi. Oh You're a war fight And so I kind of it depends on the mood, but some yeah sometimes you're like just I'm overseas to not be hearing Australia's stuff, but Australia is such Broad travelers, but I remember one time lovin the accent when I was In Germany, I've probably mentioned this before so this metal festival called Wacken or Valken I think Wacken a rose tattoo

Starting point is 00:21:59 Angry Anderson's band. Yeah, it was playing. I'm there Australia and there yeah They're an Aussie band. They came out and I had not heard the Australian accent for a few months and they came out and the bass player is wearing overalls with like maybe like a blue singlet. And he comes out and goes, check one fucking two. And I just like blew my hair back. I was like, whoa.

Starting point is 00:22:27 And a little tear. And you just started singing with the actual anthem. Check one fucking tune. There's no fucking Wi-Fi backstage. That's brilliant. Check one fucking tape. Yeah, it's like one of those little moments just fully imprinted in your mind. I can picture everything about it.

Starting point is 00:22:54 I love it. It's a good memory. Motorhead headline that, first of all. No, sick. Anyway, so Cash left the Air Force in 1954 and was reunited with Liberto and they soon married. Oh, she waited for him. Well, I think they were both sleeping around. He would, he would often, apparently in a lot of these letters, he'd be like,

Starting point is 00:23:15 gone, I got a really drunk, really sorry, weren't happened again. And I think she said since that she was also, you know, they weren't exclusive. I mean, they dated for three weeks. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's pretty wild that they got, you know, he came back and they got married soon after. And it kind of didn't, you know, some of that stuff probably didn't pose super well for the future. Settling down in Memphis, Tennessee, cash worked as a salesman. I think he went door to door selling like kitchen goods or something like that

Starting point is 00:23:52 playing music on the side with Marshall Grant, Red Canodal, which is a fucking great name. Canodal. And Luther Perkins, who were workmates of Cash's mechanic brother Roy. Johnny was the front man with a guitar he paid 20 Deutsch marks for which is around five bucks US and a tonning Canodal on steel guitar grant on upright bass and Perkins on electric guitar. Yeah, apparently Perkins the coolest. Yeah, well apparently According to one source at least Perkins Was responsible for that Tukachu Tukachu Tukachu, chukachu, chukachu, chukachu, like that iconic cash sound.

Starting point is 00:24:27 And it's been passed down in my family ever since. Yeah, well known to do that chukachu, chukachu, chukachu. I did it all the time. The guitar sounding like a steam train. Do you guys ever listen to me? I'm always doing that. Yeah, you are. Always underneath this.

Starting point is 00:24:43 Always tugging along. Yeah, I just keep chugging. Bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch, bunch. Yeah. And we just keep talking. No one ever addressed it until now. It's a family thing. I get it now.

Starting point is 00:24:57 I was listening to, I was listening to a heaps of his albums over the last little while. And in a live album, he just played walked the line, and then he said about that Boom Chica sound, which sort of makes it sound like it was more his thing, but I think it was joking. He goes, people asked, I want to do the live. People asked me why I did the boom, Chica Boom Chica on that record.

Starting point is 00:25:20 He didn't say boom, Chica, you made the sound. It's because we couldn't afford a drummer on that session and the people chuckled and he chuckled. So he maybe is just a little banter, but anyway, good stuff. Good stuff. I can see that was one of these early sketches. He is funny. He's funny. He also goes and people ask where I had the start of each course and went, you know, I've been in more part. Yeah, yeah. He was, that was just because I was trying to find the key.

Starting point is 00:25:49 I mean, don't give away all these secrets. Wow. Did he ever find the key or do you lock that out? And that one was inspired by my good friend, J.R. Cash. Oh. And that one was inspired by my good friend, JR Cash. So 1954 Elvis releases his first record in the Sun Records label. And I guess this was around the time of that million dollar quartet that we've been talking so much about. And it kicked off Elvis Mania, an increased interest in the Sun Records label.

Starting point is 00:26:24 That year or the next, I've read it in two different, anyway, it doesn't matter. Cation is banned, went into Sun Records to audition, or it's some way that they went in on an ounce and just sort of went, let it give us an audience.

Starting point is 00:26:36 They started playing in reception. Yeah. The manager came out. And Sam Phillips, the guy came out, and he goes, all right, oh, he, oh, he, guys. Canoedal, which is a real shame, but- Canoedle, he. He, uh, he yodled.

Starting point is 00:26:50 Canoedle, the yodler. Um, yeah, he bowed on the audition due to nerves and fears that he would hold the group back. And also, obviously, he had his yodeling career to think about. You would have heard of him, the yodeling mechanic. Oh, I know. Yeah. Talking to you like you don't know.

Starting point is 00:27:05 I've got his post strap in my workshop. Yeah. So I'd left just the three men. They called themselves the Tennessee Three, but we're convinced by Phillips to call themselves. Check that's why I can add all left. Yeah. I'm not even included in the band name. How do you know where to mean it be any of us three?

Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, I know. We all know. I mean, they did have three guitarists in a group of four. Which one, what did it kind of- It was Steel Guitar. No one needs that. No.

Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah, there's the electric and electric- So as long as you've got electric perkins. As long as you've got a boom-chick-up player. Yeah, you need the boom-chick-up. Sorry, man, I cut you off there. There was a Tennessee three. It was a movie. It was was convinced by Philips to call themselves Johnny Cash and the Tennessee two Oh again, can I tell us like what the fuck? You could have just kept three and I could have come back

Starting point is 00:27:56 Very now now one's definitely Johnny. Yeah, we've known it only two spots left We get rid of the boom jigger boom chuk-kukai. I don't think so. I think so. It's me and the fucking bass player, all right. All right, yeah. Do we need a bass player in a band? Or another guitar?

Starting point is 00:28:14 I think we all know the answer. Get out, Mr. Bass. You're good. Oh, I see. Oh, I misjudged that. Oh, I'm out, so I'd know. Oh no. Oh, I misjudged that. Oh, I'm out, so I'd never... Oh, no. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:28:29 Oh, mm-hmm. All right. Right, fine. Oh, where is everyone? How am I gonna tell my wife? I'm locked out and I can't find the key. I'm not even... Mm-hmm-hmm.

Starting point is 00:28:44 I just can't get it. Johnny makes it look so easy. I don't think we've heard the last of Red Connordle. All right, man. He's coming back, surely. We've heard the last of you. We're not obviously there's too much and we will do it his own report. Oh, of course. About the mechanic, the mechanic King, Yodla. As he was called. The mechanic King. How was that advertised? Is that a K.I. and Jeezy mechanic King?

Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, the mechanic King. Yodla. Yeah. That's the best guess, obviously. The mechanic King, Yodla. Stuff. This sort of goes along with what you were saying before going cash feels like obviously the made up part because according to Bography.com, upon first meeting Johnny Cash, Phillips thought

Starting point is 00:29:36 that Johnny had made up his last name. It sounded to him like Johnny Dollar or Johnny Guitar, like quite a ridiculous made up name, but obviously the cash part was real and can be traced back a thousand years to Scotland and to the ancient kingdom of Fife. It was Johnny that was the invention which we've already discussed. Philips liked them, but apparently wasn't happy

Starting point is 00:29:59 with their gospel style songs, telling them to come back with an original tune, which they did presenting the cash-pend hay-porder which Philips liked and consequently released as their first single. Apparently cash came home to his pregnant wife who was pregnant with their first kid Vivian excitedly telling her maybe we're cut in a record. Next came Cry Cry Cry, which became their first charting song, peaking at number 14 on the US Country Charts, which was followed by our fan one list that looked like a dozen in a row, top 10 singles on the Country Charts.

Starting point is 00:30:39 And that didn't include the B-sides, which a lot of them also charted. Wow. So just really taking up. Real hot streak. And quite a few of those crossed over into the mainstream charts as well, including one of the early singles was I Walk the Line, which was number one on the country charts. And yeah, top, I think the top 20 hit

Starting point is 00:30:58 on the mainstream charts. I think I've read that it was inspired by cash hearing a Bavarian song played backwards accidentally, maybe. We heard the devil. I walked alone. Oh, wow. Yeah, German backwards. Sounds like English.

Starting point is 00:31:17 Very English. English. Boomchuk, boomchuk. The success led to endless touring and time away from his young family, according to an article on VCstar.com, covering the marriage from Vivian's point of view, which is a real heartbreaking read. The tours also drew women and when Vivian asked Johnny if he was ever tempted, he told her not to worry, I walked the line for you. Is what he said to her, which obviously led to that song being written. Apparently Johnny asked Vivina right down the lyrics while they were driving along. In the late 1950s, cash was lewd away from sun records by Columbia records with big cash, big dollars.

Starting point is 00:32:02 He relocated his young family, which by the early 1960s included Four daughters Rosanne Kathy Cindy and Tara Rosanne herself went on to be a multi Grammy award-winning country singer Rosanne Rosanne cash Yep, but he was on the road for the majority of the year by this stage I think saw some some 30s, 300 nights a year. He'd be playing gigs, which is wild. We had 10 months of year, wow. His band became a Tennessee 3 in 159 or 60 when drummer W.S. Holland joined.

Starting point is 00:32:40 Oh, I thought Red had gotten the call up. Red sees it advertised. He turns up to the gig, huh? Huh? A drummer? Oh, fuck. But you did nothing at all, as far as I can. Oh, the one thing you sound like in another guitar. And now the guitar.

Starting point is 00:32:59 Oh, fuck. I learned six new instruments, and not one of them is a drum. Oh, fuck, fuck! Don't you want the clarinet? No, fuckin' hell. Do you need a floutist? No. Fuck!

Starting point is 00:33:16 Fuck! I learnt the viola! Huh? I thought that was very rockin' roll. Oh, well, the hapsichord. No one's played this in 200 years. I got a loot. Fuck.

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Starting point is 00:34:57 That's bombus.com slash lock-down code lock-down. On these tours, the 20 Cash is going on. His band would often be a company by June Carter now. We were familiar with her, Cash first or a years earlier, performing with her family band, who was like an iconic country band, which I didn't realize. Generations of Carter's, Platon's band. Okay. From what I read though, Carter didn't hear of Cash until Elvis Presley

Starting point is 00:35:34 mentioned him to her. This is according to, this feels, it says this, I found a couple of websites saying they were quoting the line and notes of a CD, which were written by June Carter. But I, so whether or not, this was of dangerous minds.net. So possibly a myth, but you know, it was typed up so nicely that I like to believe it. So in these notes, Carter was talking about how she was on tour with Elvis before meeting

Starting point is 00:36:05 Cash or even her hearing of Cash when she found Elvis trying to tune his guitar while humming like Adam. And according to Carter, she asked him what the weird humming sound was all about and Elvis replied, that's what drives the girl's crazy. Cash don't have to move a muscle. He just sings and stands there. I don't know this Johnny Cash card are acquired. And I always said, oh, you'll know Cash. The whole world will know Johnny Cash. He's a friend of mine.

Starting point is 00:36:41 It sounds like an animal guy. It's just been spent. Oh, you'll know Cash. The sounds like an animal guy. Yeah. It's just been spent. Oh, you'll know Cash. The whole world on O'Cash. You'll pay. You'll pay Cash. So, the whole tour, Carter's first with Cash.

Starting point is 00:36:57 They went in a small cafe's throughout the South and Elvis played Johnny Cash on the jukebox. So when Carter met him soon after and I said eventually to a together, she felt like she already knew him. But they were both already married at the time, but there was already feelings between the two. Chemistry. Yeah. So I mean, this is connection. You normally hear about this as like the great love story and it does definitely seem to be but I can't help but feel For Vivian who is home 10 months of the year bringing up the four kids by herself while her husband's gone around Fucking about and during Carter has a husband and kids as well

Starting point is 00:37:39 She had I should have kids. Yeah, great Sorry, this isn't the bloody Carter Cash report. I'm pretty sure. In 1963, June Carter corroded a song about her falling for cash. This is as well. Cash was still married. Though he was still married to Vivian. I should have just waited till the very nice sentence. June's sister Anita released the song without much success. The story goes that Cash heard the song titled Loves Ring of Fire, and later had a dream about the song.

Starting point is 00:38:12 Only in his dream it was accompanied by Mariatri Stel Horn's or Trumpets. When the song father become a hit for Anita, Cash recorded the song as he dreamt it, and it went on to become one of his biggest hits. Yeah, kind of a ring of fire. Did I feature red on trumpet? So sorry he learned it he learned it. He's still didn't get the fucking Reds dead. You need trumpets. I play the fucking trumpet. Huh? Oh fuck off. This is feeling personal

Starting point is 00:38:40 You're gonna get a mariachi player instead for fuck sake You're gonna get a mariachi player instead. Fuck sake! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Is that what happened? Is that what he said? Did he throw a bottle of whiskey in the bin? That's where you belong, whiskey. I wouldn't like to be treated that way, that is abuse. You don't be thrown in the bin. I don't be thrown in the bin. That is true. Nobody puts paper in the corner and nobody puts Jesse in the bin.

Starting point is 00:39:24 Nobody puts bottle in the corner and nobody puts Jesse in the bin. Nobody puts bottle in the bin. Bopper in the bin. He was sleeping around and increasingly in trouble with the law all while his wife, Vivian was home with their four kids. So this kind of bought me out a bit but you know during these times his relationship with Jun Carter began as well. So there was a gross overlap, I think. A very multiple affairs. Yeah, that's right. So I mean, it's at least one of them went on to be a long-lasting marriage. According to the VC Star article, initially Vivian denied it. She was the one Johnny walked a line for. But

Starting point is 00:40:06 then she started noticing warning signs like Johnny would spend less and less time at their family home. And then she found receipts for thousands of dollars of gifts for June. Oh, it's just such a gross. He's been less time at home. He's a way 10 months of a year or a year. I mean, she found receipts. He just happened to write present for June. Because he is very careful with his taxes. He's a real good, he has very kept a very balanced book. Yeah, and that is admirable. And that's what I'm looking for in a man. Someone who can balance my books. Wait, like an account. Oh God. What's happened?

Starting point is 00:40:47 What have I done? No, no, fucking leave the books unbalanced. No, but I like being organized. Oh God, I'm so conflicted. She wrote that the whole experience was degrading and horrible, obviously. And the idea Johnny could love someone else was hard for her to accept.

Starting point is 00:41:05 In the end, Vivian regretted not revisiting all those love letters and trying to fight harder for the marriage, which is like, oh Vivian, no. You're not the problem here Vivian. This is a quote, I should have been relentless at saving it. As relentless as June was at destroying it In brackets that said though she ultimately forgives her This is all in her she wrote an autobiography Later in life

Starting point is 00:41:38 And it was titled I think it was titled fuck you June Carter I think it was titled. Fuck you, June Carter. It's like a subtle thought. I think you're right. It was titled something like, I walk the line. And apparently a friend, apparently she was just so loved in her community after they split.

Starting point is 00:41:55 Just one of those community members that was just loved by everyone. And her friends were the ones that said, he didn't walk the line. You walked the line. You were the one who stayed home and raised the kids. He didn't, you know, the idea of walking the straight line, I guess, is being straight and true or whatever, is I guess how I interpret

Starting point is 00:42:13 it. So yeah, I kind of like that as a title for the book. Apparently, he left without saying goodbye. Vivian wrote that he eventually apologized to his daughters, but never to her. I'd have given anything to hear Johnny say you were sorry. Oh, that's awful. Um, anyway, fucking, right? This is the point of the story. It's like, fuck you, Johnny Cash. I don't know what his relationships like with these kids was like with these kids, but I can't imagine being like, daaah!

Starting point is 00:42:47 It's like what? What do you want? Yeah. Yeah, that sucks. So, I mean, that's all real sad. This is no excuse, but he was fuck-eyed on with different elections at the time. But, you know, obviously not no excuse

Starting point is 00:43:02 to be a real, um, asshole. Hmm, what sounds like you wouldn't want to be around him anyway. He sounds awful. Yeah. No, there were, there's a, why I'm going to tell a few other stories. Um, obviously, it's, there's in a bad place in, in general. Um, and in these years, he was arrested several times. It's about seven times in seven years, I think.

Starting point is 00:43:21 Um, but perhaps his most famous running with the Laura Curl occurred in 1965 in El Paso, Texas. He crossed the Mexican border to buy amphedamines, which he was addicted to at the time. He purchased a heap of them, stuff them in a sock, and then into his guitar case, crossed back over the border. But then I think he was busted on the plane in Texas the next day. He's like, he didn't get busted crossing the border. It was already once he was and then got,

Starting point is 00:43:49 I think is how I read it. Apparently he had 668 decks of dream and 475 equinell tablets. He avoided jail time because they were over the counter drug. Still a legal firm to bring him. Have that many? Have that many and bring him a smuggle them in.

Starting point is 00:44:06 But a man he avoided gel time was what I think the cops went after him to get his heroin or something like that, but yeah, so he copped a fine and a suspended sentence. And though this sort of all wraps up into the bad boy image that I think we associate with him now, apparently at the time was received poorly with his conservative audience. Of course, only do fucked up things privately. Yeah, right. And so in my mind, the people who do the most fucked things are people who present very

Starting point is 00:44:41 conservative publicly. Right. That's how it goes in my head. I'm sure some people who present conservatively publicly. Right. That's how it goes in my head. I'm sure some people who present conservatively are actually conservative. So do you see a very conservative looking person walking down the street? No, they definitely have a sex wing of theirs.

Starting point is 00:44:55 What are they get up to? Oh. I know what you are. Okay. Okay. Just wearing a tie. You got a weird fetish or something don't you? You got a sock of Dexter dream or some shit in you

Starting point is 00:45:09 Where is it? Where is it gives the sock mate? And you know it was in a sock I Can tell no you're all the same you consider this The drug use was wrecking his voice as well And he was building up a bit of a reputation. I keep a close watch on this animal. That's not how I picture it. It's really good. I keep my glasses.

Starting point is 00:45:41 That's very good. I keep my eyes on a fan. Okay, for classes. That's very good. Okay, bye. It was like a boy's choir. That was beautiful. This is no good. This is no other people want to see. I like how you think that's angelic. Okay, bye. Oh, the angel is in here. What is this?

Starting point is 00:45:52 The rapture. Okay, bro, is that you? He calls you out, my God. I walked alone. So, I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room.

Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. What is this the rapture? Gabriel, is that you? He calls you up, I walk the light! Silent night! It's beautiful. So he was building up a reputation as an unreliable performer, often not rocking up his eyes at all.

Starting point is 00:46:23 He would never Pay his way. He's not a lifeline, I don't know if that is. You'd ever pay his high profile? So he said? You'd never pay his way. Oh no. Fuck you. He also would wreck backstage areas and hotel rooms, like classic sort of bad boy rock

Starting point is 00:46:47 style behavior. Sick. Er, he once had a short affair with country singer Billy Jean Horton. Horton apparently ended it when she found out about Cache's wife and kids. But he found out she was in town saying this hotel. So he stormed through the hotel trying to find her banging on her door and she locked us. She's like, no good mate. And he cracked the shit. Right. He turned around and just smashed antique chandeliers all the way down the hall in this hotel. Not funny. Just like scary, but really. But on another occasion, he drove to California's Los Padres.

Starting point is 00:47:29 That's from a nice national forest in Ventura County with his nephew. He was bingeing on pills and booze there and he apparently went off alone to fish for a bit. One is nephew, Damon, Smelt Smoke. He found cash losing control of the fire. And according to LA Weekly.com. I'm in control.

Starting point is 00:47:48 I'm not in control anymore. I'm going to be fair. He's trying to control the fire with his mind. You know, see him robbing his temples. I'm panic on his face. Hang on. I'm going to find the key of the fire. So according to LA Weekly.com, his overheated party truck became an igniting torch, scorching

Starting point is 00:48:15 hundreds of acres. So what he called himself the party truck? I was, he's, these guys go to the party truck, which is, and another thing I read, it was like he borrowed his sister's camping van. Party truck. So hundreds of acres were burnt. So it's a big wild bushfire? Across three mountains.

Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, shit. And it roasted and killed 49 of the areas, 53 endangered Californian condors. Big. Oh, shit. I shouldn't laugh, but that's great. 49 of the areas 53 endangered Californian condors big Love that that's great Basically almost to extinction he nearly made a species got steep Because of his party truck My party truck it made an animal go extinct. I'm a bad boy

Starting point is 00:49:06 to an animal going extinct. I'm a bad boy. Dude, do you reckon he was apologetic? No. A bad kill on the kill on all those birds. You have to doubt so very much. This is, he's quoted as saying, and this was across a few different sources. He was quoted as saying, I don't care about your damn yellow buzzards. That's amazing.

Starting point is 00:49:24 Well, it's terrible, but it's so crazy. It's amazing. It's terrible, but it's so crazy, it's funny. I'd never heard of that. I did not know that. That is not in the film, funnily enough. I was a lot roasted. Roasted is brutal. It smells amazing. They taste it real good.

Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, very tender. Kentucky Fried condol buzzard. Oh wow. Apparently, yeah, so he settled with the government at a court for about 80 grand. So, these wild years, he would later say, I had become habituated to amphetamines and Bobitwits and alcohol, all three at the same time. That combination is deadly poisonous. I got up to a habit of as many as a hundred pills a day in a case of

Starting point is 00:50:14 beer. That's fucked! Hundred pills. And a case of beer. I mean that just, I mean you'd struggle to even stomach even if that was sugar pills, right? Oh I can't even swallow one pill, I'd chew pills. Cause my weed suffocates. Yeah, right. So 100. Uh, yeah, that's, that's like, healthy. Yeah, it's a form of torture for you.

Starting point is 00:50:34 100. I mean, but I'm grateful it's 100. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I would have as many as 98 pills a day off a fuck sake. He's like gasping for air gun Oh My mouth so dry I mean how do you not die?

Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah, I guess you slowly build up like a tolerance I suppose oh you'd have diarrhea for sure You'd have to okay, I would I would have thought the other way around. I'm not sure that's the first thing, why that's the first thing you think of. 24 beers and 100 pills, I'm imagining no other food. Oh yeah, good call. Oh, I reckon it'd be blocked right up. I don't know how the body works.

Starting point is 00:51:19 Well, I mean, 50 of those were laxative pills. Right. It was a little virus. There was a time where apparently to fit into, I read this so early this morning, a suddenly vague memory, but to fit in some sort of classic old suit of an old country performer,

Starting point is 00:51:36 he just binge on diet pills for a while and just waste it away. Oh, wow. Yeah. He was very gaunt through some of this period. He also said arrested seven times and several years. No, I'm not, I lost it there. I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown

Starting point is 00:51:52 and I knew it. I was usually on a hundred pills a day, but I got no pleasure from them, no peace. I couldn't stand my life, but I couldn't find a way out of it. Guess that's what addiction is. Fucking baroo tool. That's awful. find a way out of it. Guess that's what addiction is. Fucking Baruch Talon. That's awful. Despite all the trouble of his personal life

Starting point is 00:52:10 and with his life performance, he didn't go a year in the 60s without a top 10 single on the country charts every year throughout all this time, he was still banging out hits. 1967, he won his first of 13 Grammy Awards for Best Country in Western Performance for a duet trio or group for Jackson with... Where'd he go, Jackson?

Starting point is 00:52:32 June Carter. 13 Grammys is a fair effort. There was a... there was one... I don't remember where we were somewhere, maybe Northern Territory up and I was on roadshow a couple years ago with Reese Nicholson, and the microphone at the stand, it was one of those old school runs, like, entirely silver, big microphone. They used to sort of share, and we were doing a mic check, and I started singing Jackson and Reese just runs straight in and sings the other side. So we were both standing there singing Jackson's very flat. It's a real fun, it's a fun. You are I associate that song to race now Just kind of nice. He probably doesn't even remember it. So the first few or 13 Grammys. Yes with race

Starting point is 00:53:12 Yes, it is a great you at yeah Really really bloody. It's a banger. It's really fun I'm gonna Jackson. Oh, yeah, it's so fun to sing the Johnny Cash songs Dier-X and yeah it's so fun to sing the Johnny Cash songs because it's so almost it's slow enough that I can at almost sounds like I'm singing. His marriage didn't survive the decade we sort of took a while before with Vivian filing for divorce in 1966 and within a couple of years Cash proposed to Carter on stage while performing in Ontario,

Starting point is 00:53:45 Canada, and a week later, they married. Oh. Carter hyphenated her name, became June Carter Cash. I mean, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's a great. Some hyphenated names don't work, but that's, that's, that's, and often when it's like, like the same letter, but Carter Cash. It's good.

Starting point is 00:54:03 It's great, yeah. I think as Cash is very short, and Carter's only two syllables. Perkins, there's no way that will hyphenate with anything. Perkins, Warnocky. Yeah, it's just a, It's super cash.

Starting point is 00:54:12 Cash Perkins. Cash Perkins is great. Yeah, that's really good. That's good. Perkins Cash Cash. Two of, that's two of the millionaire, a quartet, million dollar quartet. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:25 Carter was a devout Christian. Some discovered as a Bible Basha, which I always, when I was a kid, I'm like, oh, that's people who do not like the Bible, but it means quite the opposite. And it seems that she helped him refocus on his faith and he became very religious. I mean, he already sort of was,

Starting point is 00:54:47 but he really refocus on that. And there were a few big moments. He, there was one time around these years where he went down in Orcave apparently to just to try to lose himself and die. But he, he felt like he had some sort of epiphany or it felt like he had a moment with God. And he saw a little light and it felt a little breeze on his back and that got him back out.

Starting point is 00:55:10 And he saw that as being like his rebirth. Holy shit. That's a true story. That feels like something you'd write. Almost like a cliched scene for a guy. Like quite literally, he's like coming out of a cave to start again. Is that how you see vaginas as a cave? Is that what you mean by that? Man cave.

Starting point is 00:55:33 No, I was, no, I was thinking more like, like Jesus has been reborn coming out of the tomb. Yeah. But yeah, I get like that would, that even more literally, oh my God more literally. No, I get it. So Carter sort of started refocusing him. It doesn't sound like it was instant, but things were starting to turn around from him at this point. A lot of people say, others probably argue, you know, she's not universally love some people, I think certainly

Starting point is 00:56:07 though, starting with his first wife, say that it wasn't all that happy, but it seems to be. Cash soon after this released his massive triple platinum selling albums, recorded Live at Prisons, 1968's Live at Falson Prison, and 1969's live at San Quentin. I think San Quentin may have been recorded earlier, and probably the most famous one is Falson Prison. He also had a hit early hit song with Falson Prison Blues. And I think that probably stands his most iconic album, maybe even in arguably. Due to their success and his troubles with the law, people often assume that Cash himself spent a bunch of time behind bars,

Starting point is 00:56:55 but he didn't really ever spend any stretches, only solo nights at a time, you know, for being drunk or whatever. But never he was never put away for a stretch. But it's a good way to put the prisoners on side of you ever do go to jail. Yeah. It's a bit of networking. That's right. Assuming you're going to go to jail. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:15 You got a network. You got to. I mean, it's, you know, it feels dirty, but... You simply must. That's how the business works. Yep. The business of being a criminal. You have a business of jail.

Starting point is 00:57:28 Cash had long been keen to record an album at Foulson Prison. It's actually, it's the prison that makes the number plates of the California apparently or used to be. Oh. Columbia, his record label though, was Not Kean. In part, due to the expense, and also as bluesy at-law country music, it was not seen to be particularly fashionable at the time.

Starting point is 00:57:52 To give you an idea, in the year previous, to the recording, some of the big albums were The Beatles, Sergeant Peppers, Jimmy Hendrix experiences, I experienced, and Cremes, Disraeli Gears. So like, you experienced, and creams, Israeli gears. So like, you know, it was sort of psychedelic rock and it was a big change in music and Johnny Cash's music was seen as being pretty old school.

Starting point is 00:58:14 Like your dad's album. Yeah. Which is funny. Yeah. I mean, but obviously in America, it's such a big population. There's all these different ways of going on and it turned out to be a huge cross over hit.

Starting point is 00:58:27 Cash did have an airline Bob Dylan's producer Bob Johnston. So whilst his label wasn't keen, Bob Johnston proved to be a big supporter and he helped get the idea over the line. So in Fossum Prisons So in Falson Prisons, Dining Hall II, at 9.40am on the 13th of January, he played, that kicked off the first of two Back-to-Back concerts, which formed the recordings. The closing song on the album, and this is someone I didn't know about, was it covered? You know anything about this? The track, Grace Stone Chapel, which is written about the chapel at Falson Prison. Cash first heard this song the night before, the day before, as it was written by a Falson Prison inmate Glenn Shirley. Shirley was in for Bank robbery, and he was unaware that the prison

Starting point is 00:59:21 chaplain had passed a tape of his song on to Cash the day before. Cash and his, Cash loved it and they learnt the night before and surprised Shirley by playing it. He was in the crowd. He was in the crowd, he was up towards the front apparently and you can hear Cash saying on the recording, I hope I do your song Justice Glenn. It was real nice and that's how the album closes that. Wow, it's cool. Cool moment. Yeah. And it's a cool song. This proved to be quite a big break for Shirley. Though he was still in prison. Another of Shirley's songs was recorded a couple years later, Portrait of My Woman by Eddie Arnold, and that led to more attention. And the opportunity to record his own live album while still incarcerated. Whoa! And then when released from prison,

Starting point is 01:00:11 apparently Shirley was met at the gates by Cash, who took him on the road and brought him into his show. But it became clear to some in the band that Shirley, in the words of bass player Marshall Grant, was a pathological criminal. Threats he made to others in the touring party, led to him being dismissed by cash. Oh, that's disappointing. Yeah, that is. So it's such a nice story,

Starting point is 01:00:37 but it ends up being quite a sad tale. He struggled with the limelight and ended up working on a cattle farm before shooting a man and hiding out. I think it was his brother's property or something, eventually killing himself, shooting him, so he had to. So yeah, super sad story, a cash paid for his funeral.

Starting point is 01:00:59 And apparently I think that that hit cash pretty hard. He was really, he kind of, he liked to think of himself as trying to fight for the, you know, the fight for the down trodden and the prisoners and that sort of stuff, but this sort of made him think, like, oh, fucking hell. Some people are just bad. Yeah, and I think his daughter later said that,

Starting point is 01:01:17 you know, his heart was in the right place, but he was never a guy who was gonna fix anything for anyone, you know, he had enough of his own demons. But it was like, he definitely seemed to have a body crack at it. And he, before for a few different causes. In 1969, O'Cash also debuted his TV variety show, The Johnny Cash Show. Oh, no. Yeah, there was like a talk show and he had musicians.

Starting point is 01:01:44 I know some of them was quite successful. Really? And it came about due to the success of the Folsom Prison album probably. I just don't really feel like him is the talk show host. Yeah, no, it's funny, but I'll think. Let's not forget Sketch Rider. No, you're not wrong. So I, of course, I forget his true passion. Yeah, comedy. I mean, he got big gas and I think yeah, I think I went Relatively well like you said big gas and then they made me think of gas bags from the Hindenburg People enjoyed gas bags. There's a few tweets about gas bags funny People love the gas bags

Starting point is 01:02:22 They never know. They never know. David came armed with what he thought was a great report. Well, what he thought. Really, the takeaway moment was just laughing at the word gas bags. For the phrase gas bags. If you missed that episode, a few people have said best since Shackleton, which is high praise. And obviously, Shackleton is which is high praise. De-Dabs. And obviously Shackleton is our false and prison blues.

Starting point is 01:02:48 No, false and prison, why have it, false and prison, anyway. So far. Come on, we can top. Uh, yeah, I think we're doing a run now. I can't wait, Dave can top it. Oh, sorry. I misunderstood what he was saying there. He's being generous. We. We cannot top it. You and I Dave can.

Starting point is 01:03:08 Obviously those shows are made good because of the S20. Obviously. So the Foulson Prison album also scored him a couple of Grammys, which isn't super surprising. Also read this stat that blew me away, a little apparently, 1969, he was the biggest selling artist in the world. In 1969, like the summer of love,

Starting point is 01:03:33 Johnny Cash was the biggest, that year the beat of the release Abbey Road, went on the moon. So, no, well, that has to do with the music charts. I'm just letting you know, I know a fact. A couple of buzz-alterners, it wasn was in the world the biggest selling music artist at year. That is actually very surprising. The world's biggest selling artist. Crazy.

Starting point is 01:03:54 1970, Cash and Carter Cash had their only child, John Carter Cash, who himself went on to win a Grammy for Best Traditional Folk album in 2004. He was also, I think, the executive producer, I had a key role on the film after he started. So he... But apparently, I think maybe Roseanne, one of his daughters was like, it was traumatic watching the movie. She didn't really recognize the scenes, but the characters did not seem familiar to her. It was like they weren't accurate, but it was just traumatic for her to

Starting point is 01:04:33 watch. And fair enough. It definitely comes from a very sympathetic place. Yes. The film was kind of like poetry. To him and yeah, I guess it's yeah, and it was... And you do feel bad for the... The only son of... Vivian, you do feel... Yeah. And June and Johnny, so yeah, imagine if it was one of Vivian's kids making the movie, it would have been a bit of a different slant on it all. The Sevenies also began with six top five charting albums on the country charts. So he wasn't just back, he was smashing it.

Starting point is 01:05:11 Six albums. Six top five chart. And that's just in the early, he did so many, yeah, he did a lot of albums. I think he recorded a lot of songs multiple times and stuff and he did a lot of covers, although he wrote a lot of his own songs well but he was super prolific. The hot string didn't last long though as he began abusing it and Federmains again in

Starting point is 01:05:34 the late 70s and in 1983 he entered rehab at the famous Betty Ford clinic. Is that the one that on the Simpson's that I'm checking in? Is that Betty Ford? I think it might be. Is that the one that on the Simpson's later I'm checking in? Is that Bette Ford? I think it might be. Checking in, he's checking in. Checking, checking in. Hey, that's just my aspirin.

Starting point is 01:05:57 No more drugs or alcohol. He got clean, but he followed this loop of getting clean and royal app saying receiving treatment again in 89 and 92. But it's not like he wasn't making things happen through these years as well. He continued to release albums, savoring degrees of success. And he also doubled in acting with roles on the big and small screens. And in 1980 he was inducted to the country music hall of fame at 48 years of age making him at the time the youngest living inductee.

Starting point is 01:06:30 At the time when I read them I'm like, young is living, but then I thought there were probably people who died younger than that who were inducted. Right, sure, yeah. I think is what that means. As time went on, cash looked to collaborate with other artists more and more. I mean he was always very collaborative, but maybe the most famous of these was with the highway men, if you heard of them. Sort of a country super group with Chris Christofferson, Willie Nelson and Whale and Jennings. Wow. And they released three albums from the mid 80s to the mid 90s.

Starting point is 01:07:01 In 1992, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was one of the few who's been inducted into both country and rock and roll. I think Elvis is another one who has. I thought I Googled a few different versions of people who were inducted into both and I couldn't find out list or anything. But I can't overshame that Hank Williams probably was, but anyway. Um, I mean, I should never assume. Should never assume and also probably, yeah, I don't think there'll be heaps anyway. Hmm. Because I mean, a lot of the pay, I look through the country all the time, it's like, who the fuck?

Starting point is 01:07:38 Who the fuck? Who is this? Lee Kernigan was not in there and And I'm like, double UTF. We're about slim. I don't know if slim should be in there, sure. Slim'd be in there. Slim Dusty though, it was not shady. I think it was he, was slim Dusty,

Starting point is 01:07:59 was he, did he write, I've been everywhere, man. Was that, that was someone else, I'm gonna be covered it. But I think Johnny Cash it a version of that The country nobody I mean he also covered any cave song the mercy seat and duet it with Nick cave in lady as well And that's yeah just a couple of couple of deep Great brooding man.

Starting point is 01:08:25 He had two deep voices together. His last long-term project was when he teamed up with legendary music producer Rick Rubin to release the American Recordings. You familiar with the Rick Rubin? Yes. This would lead to another revival of Cash's career after a relatively lean period of critical success and relevance really Ruben had already made his name producing a diverse range of shoes out shoe jumps Did you have you heard of the crew?

Starting point is 01:08:52 No He did the Beast 2 Boys first album last year Lost Hill? Yeah It's done every He did Ronda MC's Raising Hell, one of the huge ones Slay's Rhinon Blood blood which is like their classic red

Starting point is 01:09:05 artillery peppers blood sugar sex magic. So he'd already done all these albums for then he's gone on to that Metallica and yes he sort of made Metallica. He's still done a lot of all kinds of yeah. Yeah. Oh, incredible. Just across all sorts of genres and he also yeah he really brought a big up swing to Cash's career right at the end with this series of albums. The first one, the American Recordings album was released in 1994. It was the first Cash album to chart in the US country top 30 in over 10 years. And it opened up a new audience to him.

Starting point is 01:09:41 And it also scored a Grammy for Best Contemporary Folk album. Cash fired up with further albums in this series with Ruben. The fourth of which released in 2002, Subtitled Demand comes around. Was the 87th studio album and also the final. No. Yeah, 87th and final in his last time. That is insane. I think the title track on that, you know, that song, the man comes around.

Starting point is 01:10:05 I think that's probably my favorite cash song, and it's like released a year before he died. This is releasing bangers right to the end. That also has his cover of Hurt, which you're probably familiar with that non-inxinal song. Yeah, it's really good. It's often like, Siders, one of the best songs ever. Yeah, it's often in the list of best covers covers and even, yeah, just great, great songs. He passed away the following year on the 12th of September 2003 from complications with diabetes. He lived only a couple of months longer than his wife June who passed away on the 15th of May.

Starting point is 01:10:42 His final month, Cation Ruben continued on the project with recordings that would make up American five, which was subtitled 100 Highways. And there was even another one released beyond that American six. He finished up the recordings just a week before his death. And according to Ruben, once June passed, the person at the month, he had the will to live long enough to record. But that was pretty much

Starting point is 01:11:13 all. A day after June passed, he said, I need to have something to do every day. Otherwise, there's no reason for me to be here. The album was a critical and commercial success, hitting number one, not only on the US country chart, but also on the, just, it was the number one on the mainstream US chart. In 2005, a biopic, I say biopic, but I hear biopic. Biopic, so people say biopic. I say biopic. Biopic sounds to me like someone with your eyes. I think I say biopic, but I, of course, you fucking do. I accept that. They're both right. They're both fine. Biopic. But it's biographic, biographical, biol.

Starting point is 01:11:50 You don't say it. Biopic. Oh yeah, no, yeah. Yeah, look, I just talked myself out of it. Um, in 2005, a biopic starring, whacking Phoenix is cash and race with the Spooners June Carter cash as we talked about before was released so much acclaim With a spoon won the Academy Award for best actress and Phoenix was nominated for best actor. Did there own singing? Did there own singing yeah, which is like it's actually really great Like they're singing at me Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I think it's um, yeah, that's impressive. I didn't know that spot on and I yeah, I think Pretty sure I read they did they did a live performance with the actors and the living

Starting point is 01:12:33 Members of the band all together somewhere around that time, which is cool In 2010 Rolling Stone magazine named cash the 31st greatest artist of all time Stone magazine named Cash, the 31st greatest artist of all time. And I've got, I've put this down as a fun fact, but we all know, no fun facts, but I kind of wanted us to finish the report with Vivian Cash who lived outlived, Johnny and June by a couple years, whatever. But in between, June dying and Johnny Johnny dying Vivian went and visited cash and told him she was writing this book and apparently cashed it all about time or something like that Which is weird and he apparently he agreed to write the forward for it, but he he died before we got the chance But I quite like this because she you know know, sometimes I feel like sometimes in a breakup people focus on one or the other and it's often not the person who really was committed

Starting point is 01:13:33 to them. It's the other person who's come in. It's like to me, it's like you'd be logically you should be pissed off at Johnny. He's the one who fucked you over. June, you know, she had no commitment to you. Yeah. I've been, you know, whatever. But anyway, Vivian definitely was more brutal against June in her afterwards, which is like obviously more in a relationship, have you liked. But tell me if this is a fun fact. I don't think it is. In Vivian Cash's autobiography, she denied that Carter had anything to do with the writing of Ring of Fire, which is obviously credited to her.

Starting point is 01:14:12 This is a quote from the book. She didn't write that song any more than I did. The truth is Johnny wrote that song while piled up and drunk about a certain private, female body part. Oh. Ring of Fire. It. A ring of fire. It shouldn't feel like fire. And if it feels like it's on fire, you should, like, get an ointment for that.

Starting point is 01:14:32 Call a doctor. Call a doctor. But what? Isn't that amazing, like, she believes that and I assume she believes that to write it. Yeah. That's a good assumption. Yeah. I think it's so funny, because I totally understand why, and I think it's probably quite common

Starting point is 01:14:49 that she's, yeah, hates June. Yeah. But you're so right that it's not June who said she'd marry you and live with you and have a life with you. Yeah, and had four kids with you. Yeah, it's Johnny. And no, you shouldn't have fought harder for him. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:07 Because he... Fuck him. Wouldn't do that for you. Yeah, didn't. He apparently never apologised and just like, You're wrong. That's true. No, never called us, fuck that guy.

Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah. Anyway, I mean, I'm sure there are different versions of all of that. So those things were coming from her autobiography, and she also said that Chunchard didn't write this song that she famously wrote. So, you know, great assault. Yeah. I mean, I got all of this information from the internet. I mean, that is mysteriously and notoriously credible. That's, oh, sorry, that's a report. credible. Oh, sorry, that's a report. Great. A report. Stuff Matthew. Matthew, a little golden boy.

Starting point is 01:15:49 I enjoyed that. So you got the listeners to vote on the, sorry, the Patreon supporters. Yes. Up a Patreon tier level people to vote on that. And you let me know that it was, you let me know that it was Valentine's Day around this episode time or as this episode comes out. Yeah, I think maybe the day before our time. Right, so I put up... No, sorry, it comes out on our Valentine's Day, so I said to Matt, I made a lovely story, so thank you for providing a beautiful tale.

Starting point is 01:16:18 Because I mean, I didn't know a lot about that and I didn't think about it. I went through the hat and I'm trying to find love specific things, and then I decided to put up three beloved entertainers. Oh, a nice one. Yeah, Elisters wouldn't really suggest romantic topics. They just go for mysteries or serial killers. Yeah, most stories end up having love in them.

Starting point is 01:16:40 Like that's just a very, it's a part of life. It's a bit of a trope really. But yeah, it's not a lot of life. You live your life, your love, your love, your love, your love, your lament, you know, I think five elves can add Johnny Cash to our list of people that you're disappointed to hear about their life. Roll dial, Charlie Chaplin. Though with Johnny Cash, I find him less surprising to be an asshole than Roll dial or Charlie Chaplin. though with Johnny Cash, I find him less surprising to be an asshole than Roller dial or Charlie Chaplin. Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 01:17:07 I could be like, yeah, I can see that. He's in like a bit of a crazy rocker. And it does feel like he did find a lot of redemption beyond, you know, those real fucked up years, but... And he wrote a lot of good songs. 87 albums. Well, that, I mean, that was, yeah, and then he, like, a couple of come out since he died.

Starting point is 01:17:31 Oh, shit. There was a lost album that his son found that was released and went to number one in the charts. That's insane. That's insane. Really cool. Obviously a pretty cool story, regardless of how we feel about him. Do we credit who suggested this topic?

Starting point is 01:17:45 We didn't mention that but it was a couple of people suggested him including let's go with a great name Jordan Quasi. Oh my god. Definitely not how you pronounce it. QAZI. Quasi. Quasi. Quasi Jordan.

Starting point is 01:17:59 He's from Hurt for Share in England. Hurt for sure in England. Hurt for sure. Thank you Jordan. Hurt for sure and also... Um... Andrew Cox. No comment. From Knoxville. Andrew Cox from Knoxville. Knoxville, Knoxville, home of the weeks for you.

Starting point is 01:18:19 What are my favourite things? Comes up a bit the week's year. I'm gonna say it certainly does. Uh, thanks so much for those guys that suggested that. If you with a bit of a bit of a fill tendency. It certainly does. Thanks so much for those guys that suggested that. If you want to suggest a topic, you can do that at any time. There is a link in the description of this episode. It says, submit topic idea.

Starting point is 01:18:34 You click on that, fill out a little form, tell us why we should do the topic and what kind of topic it is. And we may well do that as our next episode. We may well. We may well. We may badly. Yeah, our next episode. We may well. We may well. We may badly. Yeah, we may do it. We may do it badly, we may do it badly.

Starting point is 01:18:48 We may do it badly. And of course, if you want to support the show of you, listen every week, you have a good time with us. You want to keep the show going, you can. At the time, hey. Hey, hey, let us know by giving us Johnny Cash at patreon.com slash doo go on, put it. Except condoms or cash.

Starting point is 01:19:05 As donations. Johnny Condoms. Yeah. Is that a bad non-page journalist? Can we see that big jar of condoms in your office? What do you think that was? An art piece? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:18 It is. Pretty artistic. You're right. Over you pledged to our Patreon monthly, you get stuff in exchange like a bonus episode once a month We do video chat and Matt does like a little newsletter anything you get access to tickets to live just before anyone else And you get a shout out on the show We'd like to shout out and say thanks to a couple our patreon people right here right now Matt Who would you like to thank for giving us a ton of cash from act on Massachusetts so convincing and then you lost it

Starting point is 01:19:51 I don't know that was convincing the first Massachusetts Massachusetts that's what I said Boston Massachusetts you're adding some teas in there right yeah, I'm not doing that. Jake Bartlett. Jake Bartlett. We normally do a thing, are we doing a thing with it? Yeah, we definitely should. So maybe there are a man in a color. No, we've done too many colors. What about if we do a Johnny Cash to an album live from prison? Where would Jake do his album? Oh, great. I think Jake Bartlett would do his album live from the swimming center.

Starting point is 01:20:29 Oh yes. In the water. Underwater, I'll just untie them. Underwater. Who say terrible acoustics above ground in the swimming center. He's always echoing there. Even worse below, but good on your Jake. No, he's got the technology. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:44 We have the technology. Oh, he's got the technology. Yeah. We have the technology. Famous. That's a great custard album. We have the technology. So, is that what you're referencing there? I think I was referencing the $6 million man. Right. Maybe that's what they were referring to.

Starting point is 01:20:57 Yeah, I think so. I did not realize that. And I'd also love to thank you if I can. It's okay with you guys? Cameron Hidalgo from Lemissa, California. Wow. I don't think I think I was a Cameron right there. The rest I sort of fell away with. Cameron Hidalgo from La Mesa, California.

Starting point is 01:21:19 Okay, and Cameron, do he's live from Starbucks. Oh wow. Coffee lover. Jane Coffee lover. Corpets salad. Okay. I've had a Starbucks in America,

Starting point is 01:21:38 which is where they're from, I believe. We have them here, too. I think they're from Seattle. I think really. I believe so. It says Fraser Crane Baby I hear the blues are calling Scrabble legs. Oh my

Starting point is 01:21:54 What is the board to do? Confused well, maybe if you want to get you pegged Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Yes. He's an air cover. Yeah, and people did seem a bit confused, but baby, he had them pegged. May I thank some people? Please, Jess. I would like to. The Senate, more desperate than I wanted to say. Please, Jess.

Starting point is 01:22:32 Please. I would like to thank a local lad from New South Wales, NSW. Jake went. Ah, Jake went. Thank you, Jake. And where would Jake do his live album from? He go.

Starting point is 01:22:49 Jake went live from a pet shop. Oh, yeah. I was actually thought I was about to say on horseback. In the pet shop. Yeah. He just write it's a big way. It's a warehouse shop. I'm picturing him though.

Starting point is 01:23:00 Somehow he's mucked out his backwards, right? So he's singing off the back of the horses as the crowd follows him around in a circle. Wow, wouldn't experience. Maybe strumming on a still guitar. Oh. That he bought from Red Canoodle. Oh.

Starting point is 01:23:14 Canoodle is canoodling on his guitar. And does he look stressed? Like is he sort of panicking the horses out of control? No. No, he's in control. He's in Cotron. He's in Cotron. He's in Cotron.

Starting point is 01:23:24 He's in Cotron. He's in Cotron. Wow. Good on you, Jake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, very similar names. Yes, I'm trying to go Australian actor. So he'll do his... From the Spirit of Tasmania. Well, I thought the Spirit of Tasmania, because Arleflin's famously from Tasmania. And he was a swashbuckling actor, so obviously always on a ship. Yeah, I think we should definitely explain to him. You should listen to the Spirit of Tasmania is a ship.

Starting point is 01:23:59 Yeah. Like a small cruise ship you can catch over not from mainland Australia to Tasmania. Love the idea that you would think that's just conceptually who would do it live from the spirit of Tasmanians. Yeah, that's beautiful. Maybe that is, maybe that is what he's going to be. Eric Flynn. Very cool. Thanks, Eric. Thank you, Eric. I would like to thank all the way from Dallas, Texas, an airport that a couple of weeks ago I visited. So we were in the same vicinity for a couple of hours. Though my stop-stop-stop-stop-over was not enough and I had to embarrassingly run through the terminal. Never done that before.

Starting point is 01:24:35 Oh, I hate that. That's a- And someone actively laughed at us. They went, haha, I wanted to tell them to fuck off, but then I remember I was in Texas, but they all have guns. So- I wanted to tell him to fuck off, but then I remember I was in Texas, but they all have guns. Big, strange. Big multi-gallon hats. Honestly, there were people in the airport with big hats on, and I was really loving it. So I would love to come back to Texas and experience it properly.

Starting point is 01:24:57 But from Dallas, Texas, I would like to thank Monica Lopez. Monica Lopez. Monica Lopez is beautiful name, isn't it? Crack a name. Where would Monica do her, her concert live from? Monica Lopez live from? Ohio. Live from Ohio?

Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah, she's not from there, but she, that's what she's doing a show from. Just in the center? In the, in the center, she looks up the long, longitude and latitude. She figures out the exact coordinates of the center of Ohio. That's our dream gig.

Starting point is 01:25:26 What a lucky duck. Yeah, and then she performs there and it goes off. I bet I bet that would bring, I mean, even more tourism to Ohio than. Yeah, then already, like the tourism industry will explode. Oh, what a place. I do, do you remember when I realized that Ohio's not that far from Gary? We can go easily

Starting point is 01:25:47 road trip between the two and also get to Pittsburgh. You say that like you're convincing us. We're on board. Oh my god. We're doing it. We're doing it. I need it. Because I'm doing it either way, but it'll be more fun with you guys. I need to get a photo of you in front of a science as welcome to Gary. I need that in my life. We all need that. Matt, we need this. I need it too.

Starting point is 01:26:10 When I'm a brewery that I've frequent a lot up in Brite in the country has released a limited edition beer called Gary. No. That is... That's the sick beer idea alone. He doesn't have anything to do with... It goes off every time Matt mentions beer. You have a problem. Stop amusing beer. Get out of here beer. Dave, do you have someone else to say that?

Starting point is 01:26:45 I got one last person. This person is listening, oh, I imagine they're listening from their house in Bavaria, Germany, where that is exactly where Johnny Cash was stationed. Yeah. Station listening into the Soviet communicate. I can only imagine that this person is listening into the Soviet community case still Moritz Ramuta or oh my god Moritz and I think that Maritz is live from a Beer house because Moritz is a name of a great beer from

Starting point is 01:27:19 Barcelona. The barrier is Beer Macker as well. So put those together Moritz live from Zibir house. Zibir house. Maybe the Lowenbrow beer house. At October, if that's the Lowenbrow, I'm sure it's pronounced like Lurvenbrue or something, but the tent there has, or at least it did years ago

Starting point is 01:27:42 and I was there had a big mechanical roaring line, which I think every hour would roar. So good. Awesome. That's so cool. I know. I know. I know. Yeah, I know. It's very cool that we can thank people from Dallas and then go to Bavaria Germany and that these people are supporting the show. Thank you so much. It's really mind-blowing. Amazing. I don't say this lightly. You are fucking legends. You! And make me being up till 4.30am today, feel with us. Yeah, totally with. No, I did, like, I really did get deep and I was listening to back catalogue Johnny Cash's I went as well I don't almost gave it away to you guys as I walked in and I was kept accidentally singing Johnny Cash

Starting point is 01:28:30 You know, I'm so paranoid about giving away topics. I'm like I said we Would have you been up to just yeah, how are you nice to see you? You're abiding stuff will that be cash or card shut up shut the fuck up Don't know don't know Even though Matt cuz Johnny Cash he was a real card It's a real card about town We're gonna wrap it up there. Thank you so much for everyone for listening getting contact at any time through email doggleonpod.jm.com and the social medias at doggleon pod. Thanks so much for listening, get in contact at any time through email dogoonpot.jmour.com and the social medias at dogoonpot.

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Two In The Think Tank - 121 - The Man In Black: Johnny Cash

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