Two In The Think Tank - 122 - David Bowie

Episode Date: February 21, 2018

It's the second week in a row that we've discussed a music legend, and this week it's Ziggy Stardust himself! David Bowie had a career that spanned decades and art forms - from music to acting to pain...ting, he did it all.  Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 Hello and welcome to another episode of DoGo. On my name is Dave Hornicky and as always, I'm joined by Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Or are we joined by you, Dave? As I said that I felt like I was the host. Like I'm joined tonight by. Yeah. Welcome to the Dave Water Key tonight show featuring Matt Schuylen just Perkins, Patrick.
Starting point is 00:02:10 That's your dream. Your robe and wear Peter Helier and Corinne Grant. Oh, that'd be great. I'd be okay with that. I'd be fine with that. Yes. I can do that. You're Peter Helier.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Look at me. I'm Corinne Grant. Okay. Look at me. I'm Peter Helier. Yeah. These at me. I'm Peter Hellier. Yeah. These are, of course, the nicest man in showbiz. Is that true, Dave? The stage boss as well. I do work with Peter Hellier and he is a fantastic guy, both on and off screen.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I met him in Perth very briefly. He's great, guys. It just seems like a very nice man. I did a gig with him. This is going back quite a while, and it was me and two others who were fairly new, but like, you know, fine. Well, we did a good job, and then he was a headliner, but like, he could have just left after the show, which is perfectly normal, but we were just sitting here, and he sat down with this, and we just had like a really nice long chat. He's delightful. So lovely. All about comedy. Ah, great guy. Anyway, that's okay, welcome to the Peter Hellier Appreciation Show. Yeah, well, I've got a lot of massings to say about him, so let's go.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Tell him at work that we've done this, tell him. I'll tell him to listen. Yes. So the first 90 seconds and then he obviously can turn off, but he won't, because he'll stick around and have a drink with this episode. Because he's a good guy. That is absolutely right. Now, here we are for another week, it's always good to be here in the studio.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So good to be here. Where the report, heating up slightly today. Yeah. So we'll get to live about the hour mark. That's what's happening. Sorry. We'll snap out of it. We'll snap out of it.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Jess, it is your turn to report on a topic that has been suggested by a listener. You've put it to the Patreon supporters to vote on. I have, and I would also like to point out that I, Jessica Ann Perkins, wrote a question. Fuck you. Not 10 minutes ago. I wrote this at the very beginning of my report. I wrote the question before I wrote the report. That's good. Does that mean you didn't bother writing a report? Eat what?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Because usually you write the report and not the question this week,'ve written the question I assume the report is empty. Yeah she blags the question this week she's gonna blag the report easy. So what? You're gonna nail it with a great question though. So we go question and then we're just gonna have some fun. We're just gonna catch up we're gonna connect. It's a riff. It's a riff. It's just my plugs. Okay. People love plugs. They love them. So about all the plugs everybody. Okay, here's my question ready? Everybody's got to make a living I should should I I probably should say now should I come clean Jess? Maybe I I have to sit out from this question Get this day. We haven't told you this yet
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know how we're recording two episodes to my saying that much? That's fine. Yeah. Because I'm because I'm going to add light, obviously, we have to record one of these episodes ahead of time, this very episode. So last night, I messaged Jess and I said and you were there because it was in the group chat and I said, Jess, just a double check that we're not doing the same report. Mine's about a dead guy and Jess replied, mine's also about a dead guy. Let's take this to a private chat away from Dave.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Oh my God, because it's our biggest fear that we'll both turn up and do it. And you've spent eight hours researching and then the other person's already done. So I go on a private chat with Jess and I go, hey Jess, and and I go, uh, hey Jess, anyway, and then I go, uh, my guy died in the last 50 years and Jess goes off, you mine died two years ago. And I went, no, mind it too, I was trying to be broad to not give it away. Mine
Starting point is 00:05:36 also died two years ago, but a lot of people died two years ago. Was he an entertainer? She said, yes, I said a musician. She she said yes, she said first name and I said fuck off. Anyway, so we would we would both we'd both started a report on the same. Are you kidding? No kidding. So I did so last week my vote was actually for this person. I had to go to the second most popular voted. Right, which was Johnny Cash. Yes. Dave, this question is for you. Which English rocker shares his name with an Australian department store chain?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Oh, sorry. Sorry. Is it Harvey World? Harvey World. I believe you were talking about the one and only, David Jones, aka David Bowie. Correct! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:06:36 The topic that I, or the theme that I went for for our listeners was which Dave, do you want me to do a report on? And Warnicky didn't win the fight. Warnicky did not make it. I was not going to do a report about you, Dave. You bet you'd put it in. You bet you'd put it in? I know, compared to the great man, the bow star.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Okay. The people voted. The people voted, and it was a bit of a landslide to Bowie. To Bowie. Yeah. Well, I'm also a big fan of the David Bowie. So, and you know what? The David Bowie.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Do you know what is well? There was... The great trick question was, do you know how the Dave had that? I know, I had that locked and loaded. Sorry that I needed that. Also, the name of our friend Peter Jones is dead. He's David Jones.
Starting point is 00:07:16 What are the odds? I know. This is becoming a real freaky Friday. It's wacky. I mean, it's not Friday today, but still still. That's it. That's the freaky thing. If you're listening on a Friday though, fuck. Buy a lottery ticket and burn it because it'll be evil. It'll be freaky. There is so much about Bowie like so much that you can't possibly cover at all. So basically my report, I'm just I'm just warning you now, it's it's largely about his early years and then because he's done so much.
Starting point is 00:07:56 He's had so many careers. Over such a long period of time, it's impossible to fiddle into a time like I don't know how he's done it. I think he's a wizard. Anyway, that's another theory for another day. Um... Mole person. But I'm just saying that now in case people are like, you forgot to mention this part. Like, yeah, I know what I did. I forgot to mention a lot of parts. Anyway, so...
Starting point is 00:08:19 David Robert Jones was born on the 8th of January in 1947 in Brixton in London. His mother, his mother, his mother, his mother, Margaret, Margaret Mary Jones, or she might be Peggy, worked as a waitress at a cinema, pretty cool. And his father Haywood Jones worked as a promotions officer for the children's charity Banados. Haywood is a great person. How good Haywood. How good is God? Haywood's stentin'. Oh my goodness. So good.
Starting point is 00:08:51 In 1953, the whole Bolly, I'm sorry, the Jones family moved to Bromley and then a couple years later in 55 he started attending the burnt ash junior school. Oh my God. It's a bit dramatic isn't it? So his voice, his singing voice was considered adequate by the school choirs. Don't put.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Adequate. Oh. I suppose you still got in, I imagine. Put quiet. Oh yeah, like he was still singing, he was fine. He was. They always gush the English down there. God, they just full of compliments. He was like, They always gush the worst instrument. That's my primary school experience.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It is not the worst instrument. Okay, no one worse. Triangle. How's that worse? No. I mean, what is it working you with a triangle? Ding. Yeah, but I'd be more annoyed if my kid was a triangle player, less annoyed, the playing
Starting point is 00:10:01 triangle than recorder. Yeah, because if they're practicing recorder, it's a different story. If your kid's playing triangle, what have you done, right? But they think, okay, Matt, but you're not, you're thinking early in terms of like that child success. We're thinking early in terms of how annoying the practice thing is at home. Sorry, I just remember that bagpipes exist.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And if you're good at them, it's fantastic. But if my child was trying to be a bagpipe player, there'd be many years of sucking and I, and blowing, by the way, and I could not handle that. But even if they, I mean, even when it's good, it's a powerful thing in a, in your, you wouldn't want a child to play that. But you get, do you get the opportunity once in a while? Because it's quite a niche instrument. If you're good at it, you get cool opportunities.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Like, I told you that John Farnam played at my work, Christmas party. What? I told you that. No, no. Which when? What? Like last Christmas. Like last, like six weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yes. I do not. I fucking told you, I also put it all over Instagram. John Farnam. John Farnam. No. What is your company? John Farnam played at the work, Christmas party.
Starting point is 00:11:04 What? And I lost my shit. How much money they're paying, John phantom? If you're up for me to say, John phantom is a big nostalgic deal here. He is huge. He was, you know, one of the, he had the greatest selling Australian album for a quite a long time.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He is an icon. Whispering Jack. He's an absolute icon. Icecon. He's an absolute asshole. Ha ha ha. He's an icon. He came and played at our Christmas party. I lost my shit. It was amazing. And when he did the voice, somebody
Starting point is 00:11:30 come, a girl came out. I couldn't have banged proper. Including, so like we got a fucking full backing band, John Farnham, and then somebody came out with the bag pipes and she played a little bit. We all lost our fucking minds. What's he wearing at Drasabone? Wait, then she's saluted John Farnham and walked off the stage. Did he salute back? It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Did he salute back? I assume so. It's Darren Hinch and... I touched his hand. You know, Darren Hinch was in the film clip? No. Playing an angry husband. Typical.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think he fisted the table. Oh, okay. Slam the table with his fist. Okay. Okay. So, how many songs did John play. Oh, okay slam the table is fist. Okay, okay. So how many songs did John play? Oh, quite a few. I was at Paul McCowney, which I mentioned, not too long ago, and he played Mull of Kintar.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Fuck, that's a strict word there. And he, during that song, a whole school popping band came out. See that's cool. Playing recorder. Playing the recorder. And everyone left. So David Bowie played the recorder. And I mean, did he play that in one of his big...
Starting point is 00:12:38 I'm sure I saw it. That's in one of his... Anyway, we've derailed very early just because I've been in the recorder. No, I didn't. Which we all played in primary school. Oh, we didn't get that complicated. We got a whole cross month. Anyway, at the age of nine, his dancing during the music and movement class was strikingly imaginative. Teachers called his interpretations vividly artistic, vividly adequate. And his poise astonishing for a child. Kid could move from an early age.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, wow. Just a doing an impression and I can only imagine that's what he was doing. Oh. We were talking earlier because I saw Father John Misty last night, and Matt and I, a Matt and I, a a big fans of his six dance moves that he has. Yes. I love any rotates through the six. Oh, they're so good. Across the two L.S. Oh, worth it. His father brought home a collection of American records, including Elvis Presley and Little Richard. And when he listened to Little Richard's song, Song Tutti FrudD for the first time, but we would later say that he had heard God.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Wow. What a coincidence. At the time he was listening to that song. Wow. Vincent. And then he sort of associated somehow with little Richard. I guess you would if you'd listen to a song and God talks to you. Yeah, what would God say?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Say, turn that off. I'm talking. Trying to chat to you and you're listening to a bloody 2D Fridiela Rudy. And what is he even on about? Turn that racket down. Elves also had an effect on young Bowie who said watching his cousin dance to Houndog made him realize the power of music. He took up the ukulele.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Just to confirm his cousin wasn't Elvis Presley. No, dance to the song, Hound. It was like, he loved Elvis Presley watching his cousin dance to Hound. I was like, whoa, should have meant in that. Not related. Okay. So he takes up the ukulele, which is a noble instrument that only the finest and most talented people play.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Put it up there with a recorder. It's the recorder of the guitar world. Fuck. I'll say that. It's also like, adorable, so. And whimsical. Oh, no doubt about that. Mm.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Dip, tall, throw the tulips. That's one of the big hits on the ukulele, isn't it? Tiny Tim. Is that those things I said real? That's something that's very exciting again. And he also took up the T-Chest base, which is a fun instrument. And he began to participate in skiffle sessions with these friends. So skiffles like a jazz blues folk American flow influence.
Starting point is 00:15:26 But in English, it's like an English thing in particular, because that wasn't Skiffles. Yeah. The first Beatles band was a Skiffle band. Yeah. Yeah. The Skiffle rock band. It's influenced by American. American folk as well.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Right. But it's gone through a weird English. And it's I want to say paradigm. Okay. No, I don't want to say paradigm. No, I don't want to say it. Usually a combination of homemade or improvised instruments, which is basically what a THS bass is as well. So same as these Americans would do it with a, like a, not a wash tub, but like a, yeah, a tub turned on.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Right. Yeah, it's like that. He also started playing the piano and he left, um, finally a real instrument. He left the junior school and he went on to Bromley Technical High School and he studied art, music and design. He became interested in modern jazz through his half-brother Terry and his mother gave him a saxophone in 1961. So just adding another instrument to his repertoire. Are you guys aware of Bowie's two different eyes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He became sort of one of like his most notable features. So long thought was he was born with, you know, because that is a thing people have, a condition where you can have two different colored eyes, but I believe that's not quite right. Not right. So they're not two different colors. In 1962 at school, his friend George Underwood punched him in the left eye during a fight over a girl.
Starting point is 00:16:51 They were like 15, 16 at this time. He was apparently, apparently he was hospitalized for a number of months and he had several surgeries. Oh, months. Months, but they couldn't fully repair the damage and he was left with faulty depth perception and permanently dilated pupil and he's left eye. So his right eye is like very blue and obviously the pupil like in light would go quite small, but the other, he's left eye will be permanently dilated so it kind of looks almost black. The two boys actually remained really good friends, despite him, you know, causing
Starting point is 00:17:25 uh, all that damage. And Underwood became an artist and designed some of Boe's future album covers. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. And Boe actually ended up thinking the eye, his eye kind of gave him an an air of mystique. He kind of been liked that part of his look. Yep. Which is kind of cool. That's a good look. It's a cool. Kids don't try to, huh? What was it gives you an excuse to wear an iPad, which he did? Yeah. And got a hospital for multiple months. That's great.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Come on, it's a converting excuse, huh? In 1962, he formed his first band at the age of 15. They were called the Conrads, and they played local gatherings at weddings. He left the technical school the following year at the age of 16, and he informed his parents of his intention to become a pop star, which his mom was not keen on. Okay, David.
Starting point is 00:18:12 All right. And apparently she arranged a job for him through a family friend kind of thing. She was like, oh, okay, you're going to be a pop star and then went and got him a job, a proper job. It's the difference between Johnny Cash who talked about last week and his mom got scraping together dollars to get him singing lessons. Because she saw talent. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I don't know, I think there's probably something in every parent who just wants a kid to be okay. Yeah, that's right. It's like, please just earn enough money to be okay. Just be okay. Yeah. But then after a couple of years, your parents get over that and learn to support your dream of the arts.
Starting point is 00:18:49 They say, okay, well, she's not gonna do anything with that degree and that's fine. We're fine with it. I mean, it's an art degree, so. No, technically, she's kinda doing it. Hey, she'll find her feet. Everyone's different. I mean, I guess that could happen. When did they come
Starting point is 00:19:06 around? Was it when you're on the radio? It's probably when I had to move back home with them recently. That's probably when they've discovered that I'm really doing that. Is that when they're happy with it? Yeah. Some of them they discover you who are runaway financial success. Yeah, like God, God, we're proud of this one. It's only our eldest child with a stable career and a good skill set would follow from his little sisters. The dreamer. The dreamer.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah, she's our little dreamer. Oh, she's got a tattoo now. Fantastic. What she's talking to the years. Talking to the years nationally. When your brother came out and said, I'm going to be a builder. They cried. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. Over my dead body. I said, you will be a singer. I said, birthday? They cried. Absolutely not. Yeah. Over my dead body, you will be a singer. What do you mean you're gonna work really hard at an apprenticeship for four years? What do you mean? You're a disgrace to the name Perkins. What do you mean you're gonna just use your hands and very practical skills in your logical mind?
Starting point is 00:20:00 You're gonna do the job that Jesus had. What do you mean you're going to build people homes? Michael, not in this house, which you also built. To the actualy? Yeah. So every morning you wake up and you look around. I literally, yeah, I now live again inside the house, my brother built. Wait, so it's not your childhood home?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Well, when did he build it? Well, as in we bought, bought God, this is derailing. He was really gifted. They bought the house, they've demolished the back of it and he's rebuilt the back. Is it some blows my mind that humans can build houses? It's like something else would do. I do, I do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Well, all the magicians. Jesus was a builder. As I said, he was a God. Okay, we the magicians. Jesus was a builder, as I said. He was a God. Okay, we've derailed. Let's get back on topic, if I may. Yeah. Okay. Big go on.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So, but we got frustrated with the other members of the Conrads, because they weren't as ambitious as he was. They didn't have big dreams. So he left the band and joined a new one called the King Bees. Right. We're pretty good. Could new one called the King Bees. Right. Really good.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Could have been called the Dreamers or something. His debut single was called Liza Jane, was credited to Davey Jones and the King Bees. And it had no commercial success. And he quit the band less than a month later and joined another band, the Manish Boys. Oh, these are shocking names. They're not good names.
Starting point is 00:21:26 David Jones and the King Bees. I'm okay with that. You like it, Dada Dada and the... Yeah, classic. So the Manish Boys were another sort of blues group. They incorporated a bit of funk, a bit of soul. Soul. Soul.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Bowie said, I used to dream of being their mixed jagger which is pretty cool They did a cover of I pity the for which was really by Bobby bland not mr. T And it wasn't it wasn't very successful either much like their first his first song lies a Jane unlike mr. T And but we soon moved on again to join the lower third, which was a blues trio strongly influenced by the who. And they released a song called You've Got A Habit of Leaving, and again, not hugely successful. He hated his stage name of David Jones, because in the mid-60s... Stage name. It got confused with David Jones of the monkeys.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Okay. So he renamed himself David Bowie after the 19th century American pioneer James Bowie. Such a great name. It is called, I like that. So great. He's, he's singled the Laughing No, which came out in 1967, used sped up and sort of high-pitched vocals.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And again, it also failed to chart. I can't believe that that didn't chart the laughing normally. For someone who would go on to be one of the coolest people of all time he had a pretty shitty start. I'd love to hear the I don't know if I've heard any of these tracks. No these were all quite old. And he's all And he was very young still at this point, right? Still teenager. Oh, he wasn't at least early. There's been a couple years through these ones.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, this is 67, so he's 20. I love a guy, that's drive. I think your career just about be finished these days and music, if you had that many failures. Like five singles or something. Because I think a lot of those, you signed a deal and they were released through a label or maybe a small, a label, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So it's convincing people to back in time and time again. Yeah. So a few weeks later after he released the laughing gnome, he released his debut album, Self-Titled, David Bowie. And it was a album of like Pop, Psychedelic, and it also didn't do very well. And it was his last release for two years, he sort of had a little hiatus. It would have been pretty, like imagine you make an album, you're pouring your soul into it, so it would be a bit. So disheartening. Yeah. But I guess it depends, I mean, we're talking about Flops compared to where he ended up, I guess, you know, your soul into it so it would be a bit. It's so disheartening. Yeah. But I guess it depends.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I mean, we're talking about flops compared to where he ended up. I guess, you know, when you're starting out selling any albums would be somewhat exciting, right? For sure. Which he didn't do. Absolutely zero sales. Well, remember when we started the podcast and it got like any downloads and we were like, oh my God, people are listening. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Now we're like, more, more. More, more, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. We are evil. We have become evil. Yeah. We've changed us. We missed that bit. Do you miss that?
Starting point is 00:24:36 I do that every week. I say, how many downloads have we got? More, I want more. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Anyway, also in 1967, he began to study I want more! Anyway, also in 1967 he began to study the dramatic arts under the tutelage of a gentleman called Lindsay Kemp who was an English dancer, actor, teacher, my modest and choreographer. But we studied a range of things from avant-garde theatre and mime and he continued to release music
Starting point is 00:25:06 and performed with other groups but he was kind of focused more on his other studies and doing these sorts of things as well. In 68, Kempo choreographed a dance scene for a BBC play called The Pistol Shot and he used Bowie along with a dancer Hermione Farthing Girl and the pair began dating and moved into a London flat together. Hermione Fah-thing girl. That's amazing. That's fantastic. Fah-thing girl. Hermione is already good.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Fah-thing girl. Yeah. So it sounds like a mythical... It sounds like a character in something exciting. And some sort of thing. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, yes, yes, that is it. Basically what I'm saying is that's a cool thing. Yes, I read. What do you read? Everythings. What do you read? Everythings. What's your favourite genre? Mmm, things. I say stupid things. Farthing girl is. Farthing girl. So they also,
Starting point is 00:26:15 Farthing girl and Bowie formed a little group as well with guitarist John Hutchinson. And for a few months the trio gave a small number of concertos, not really concerts, combining folk. They didn't give a concerto. No concertos. Never connected the word constant concerto together. What does concerto mean? Concert. That's a really, always, yeah, because I was the yeah, I was the social classical music right and it's
Starting point is 00:26:47 sometimes that's a piece of music called a concerto, right? But that's what it's saying. It was just made for the performance for performance. Fascinating. It's a first thing I've learned. And this is a musical composition usually composed in three movements in which usually one solo instrument, for instance, a piano, violin, cello, or flute, is accompanied by orchestra or a concert band.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Right. That's a concerto. Okay, so I didn't learn anything then, I don't know. I'll talk about that later. So they were sort of performing as a group and they broke up in 1969 and she went to Norway to take part in a film called Song of Norway. Johnny Cash biggest artist in the world at that time. And this affected him and several of his songs such as Letter to Hermione and Life on Mars reference her. Letter to Hermione is a little more specific.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Less, it's a bit more obvious that he's referring to her. Foot on Life on Mars. Mars could be a bit more obvious that he's referring to her. The life on Mars. Yeah, Mars could be a bit more vague. Finally in 1969 he found success with the release of a song. Can you guess what song? Changes. Well think about it. So this is 1969. What else happened that year? Around the moon. Around July. Out of space, out of it. Yeah, there we go. I mean, Matt, you didn't give David chance. His eyes were lighting up like kind of new. Sorry, Dave. I still thought of the moon thing, but that's fine. I'm not annoyed.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm just disappointed. So on the 11th of July 1969 space, Audity was released five days ahead of the Apollo 11 launch and it reached the top five in the UK, which was huge. Well, I guess the biggest he's certainly gotten by that stage. Earlier that year, Bowie had met Angela Barnett in the April, and she was an American model actress and journalist, and they married within a year. It's interesting that space Audity was the first song a lot of people heard, because I reckon some people would must have thought it was almost like a novelty song, right? If that's the only song in case you knew. Right. And it was being released at the time of the launch and everything.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So yeah, so it's interesting. I bet you some people would have written him off early. Yeah, one hit one to kind of think. Yeah. Similar to Joe Dolce's Shut Up at your face. What's the matter you? Or what do you look at the set? That's no good, is What do you look a success? So, that's no good is it?
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's a nice surprise. Release around the time the first Italian man walked on the moon. Yeah. Yes. Shut up, you're a phase. Yeah, like weird Australian Italian broken English. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So he's married now to Angie. And she had like an immediate and a very strong influence on Bowie and his career. He'd been frustrated by his manager, Ken Pitt, so he fired Ken. Space Audity had really established Bowie as a solo artist, but he wanted a band. He wanted to have people playing with him that he could relate to and he could perform with. So he and his session guitarist Mark Bolland discussed it and they put together a band. They originally called themselves The Hype, which is a very cool band name. That is called much cooler than Lower Third. Lower Third. All the connoisseurs of the K.
Starting point is 00:29:58 The Hype. And they all created characters and wore elaborate costumes. The Hype. I've never heard of the hype. I've heard of Mark Bowlin. Yeah, but he's the front man from... Like the Pesh mode or something? No, from... Oh, it's something like... What are they called?
Starting point is 00:30:17 The T-Rex or something like that? Mark Bowlin. I'm not sure. Yeah, it's T-Rex. You are right. You are right to be like a glam glam band. And so they cost you and stuff for really elaborate. And I reckon it was probably like a glam rock kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And they, but their first performance as a band was a disaster. So they went back to presenting Bowie as a solo artist and they were his backup band. Oh wow they get one gig. One gig was a year ago. They just did that slow walk from the front of the stage back to their position. They're in the crowd started to come around like okay now yeah. Something's changed here. I can't tell what but I like it. Oh it was like skip behind the curtain. Back behind the curtain. I was like, I was behind the curtain. Guys, guys, fuck off, I forgot the fuck off the stage, guys. Guys, guys, please. The hype is real!
Starting point is 00:31:07 The hype is not real. There was quite a fiery relationship in the band and there was tension and fighting between Bowie and the drummer John Cambridge. Eventually Cambridge quit and was replaced by another drummer called Mick Wood's Bainey. Much better name. Wood mainsy. Fuck. I'll prefer Woodspainy. Much better name. Wood Main Z. Fuck. I prefer the Spain Z.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That sounds like someone making up a name on the spot. Yeah. Hi, I'm Mick Wood Main Z. Welcome Mick. I don't know if I'm talking to Mitch Mick. Bowie's third album, The Man Who Sold the World, was released in 1970. And this album was heavier and more rock influenced than the acoustic and folk sound of space oddity and Mercury record financed a coast to coast
Starting point is 00:31:50 publicity tour across America. He took full advantage of his androgynous appearance and the original cover for his album showed belly posing in a dress. He's kind of like lying across a lounge in this really elaborate dress and he took the dress with him on tour and wore it to press interviews. The press loved it. The public were very mixed. Because keeping one, this is like 1970. In America, conservative in parts. If it's coast to coast,
Starting point is 00:32:19 imagine going through some pretty conservative areas. And apparently one guy on the street one day pulled a gun on Bowie and said, kiss my ass. She seems like a weird thing to say. Right. And Bowie's response? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Put out a bigger gun and said, no, you kiss my ass. Yeah, I tell you, get him. You call out a threat to kiss my ass? This is a threat to kiss my ass. So his music started doing well and his family is growing too. In May of 1971, David and Angie welcomed their first child, Duncan. I think I assume it's Zoe. Duncan is Zoe, Hayward
Starting point is 00:32:57 Jones. Zoe Bowie. Yeah. But it kind of looks like it could be Zoe. Zoe Bowieowee, Ben Howie. Duncan, Zowee, Haywood, Jones. This too, we're also led by the inspiration for his character of Ziggy Stardust. Dressed in a striking costume, his hair dyed reddish brown, but we launched his Ziggy Stardust stage show with the spiders from Mars, which is the backup band, at the Toby Jug pub on the 10th of Feb in 1972. Ziggy was a huge success,
Starting point is 00:33:32 but we spent the next six months touring the UK and the show launched him to Stardom. The rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust and the spiders from Mars, it's a lengthy title, but it's good, was released in 1972 and it was Bowie's fifth studio album. Starman was released a couple months ahead of the rest of the album, and both the single and the album chatted rapidly,
Starting point is 00:33:53 following his July top of the pop's performance. It's good tune. It's great. So good. And the album actually remained in the charts for two years. Which is crazy. That's such a long time. Got a body, it's like that Shaniya Twain
Starting point is 00:34:09 album all over again. I said lightning doesn't strike twice, but it does. Clons for Shaniya and then David Bowie. Yeah. And when I think David Bowie, I think Shaniya. Shaniya. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You know, just equal playing fields. Now, the Ziggy Stardust character was a melding of the personality of Iggy Pop and the music of Lou Reed. They were kind of the two main inspirations for Ziggy Stardust. And after the success of his album, we got to work with both of these artists who inspired this persona, which is kind of cool. He sang backing vocals on Lou Reed's 1972 transformer. And he's pretty sure I've heard Iggy say that seeing Lou Reed
Starting point is 00:34:55 and made him realize that he could be a musician. Yeah, wow. Like, yeah, sorry, he goes, wow, you don't have to be a great singer to be a singer I'm sure I've heard himself interview. It's amazing I always really like hearing about like all these incredibly famous people knowing each other from starting together obviously like like Johnny Cash and Elvis get together. Wild. Yeah when that's insane. Yeah. Then you like I know both of those names but there was probably 20 other acts who performed with them
Starting point is 00:35:26 at the same time as well, but obviously didn't get reached the level of fame that we now still remember them. Yeah. But it's just so cool. There we go. Love a scene. Do you think that with comedy, do you ever think which one of us is going to make it? I mean, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Which one of you guys is also going to make it? Oh. Um, I mean, is neither an option? Yeah, I'd say neither. Which one of you guys is also gonna make it? I've been his neither adoption. Yeah, I'd say neither wait Oh, as in you two. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've already established that I'm the star Yes, I'm the star. Yeah, of course. I'm the Ziggy. Yeah, where the heart? Where does the hype? We're the shadow. Yeah, we tried to come out and then you said get the fuck back and we said alright. It was fearing good. Over the last 10 years, Bombus has donated over 100 million socks, underwear and t-shirts
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Starting point is 00:37:29 He's own album 11 St. Topped the UK chart his first number one album And his love of acting led his total immersion in the character's he created for his music This is a quote from him he says offstage. I'm a robot on stage. I achieve emotion It's probably why I prefer dressing up as Ziggy to being David. It's an honor to feel about that. He struggled to sort of struggle to separate himself from Ziggy. He said that he felt like Ziggy wouldn't leave him alone for many years. Said my whole personality was affected. It became very dangerous. I really did have doubts about my sanity. It's kind of crazy. After breaking up the spiders from Mars, Belly attempted to move on from his Ziggy persona. And he moved to the US in 1974 and he settled down in LA. The same year he released his album, Diamond Dogs.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It went to number one in the UK and he set out on his Diamond Dogs tour of the US. It was quiet a show. It had a high budget stage production and special effects and a guy called Alan Yentob filmed the tour and produced a documentary called Cracked Actor. Just fun to say. I mean you could have called it Diamond Dog. Oh Crackeder. Oh that's better. That's why you're going to make it. Yep. Just move back in with my parents. The Doco shows a sickly and pale Bowie. The tour actually coincided with his heavy cocaine use, which later led to his addiction.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And he had severe physical issues, paranoia, emotional problems. He took a little broken, a broke, he took a little break in Philadelphia. And in 1975, he released Young Americans. There's a very different sound to his previous work and initially it kind of divided his UK fans. Belly himself referred to it as plastic soul. Have you heard that term? Yeah. It's like the Beatles album, Rubber Soul, a sort of like what what solvers. Yeah, bit fake white people trying to do soul music in authentic is the perfect word Yeah, so it's not it's not real. It's not seen by Soul fans is real soul music, but he didn't discover that way until later. Did he or was it? Yeah, I think it was later
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, he was looking at the time he's It wasn't his intention. Yeah, then he was just sort of you know trying to create that type of music um Yeah, that he was just sort of, you know, trying to create that type of music. But it was, it was, I really liked some of the songs on that album. Yeah, young Americans are great, right? A lot of the people did too. Like, it just initially people were just like, nah, different.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Young Americans gave Bowie his first US number one. Right. And fame, which was co-written with John Lennon, who also did some backing vocals. And Lennon called Bowie's work great, but it's just rock and roll with lipstick on. Which is, I'm not sure how to feel about that. Is that a compliment?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Is that great? Yeah, I think he's saying, don't get too excited by it. But it's like, I mean, it is like these, he's talking it down to just lipstick, but it was a, I mean, it is like these, he's talking it down to just lipstick, but it was a whole lot of it was, like he created a whole world of fashion and stuff. Totally, oh yeah, he was a huge influence for sure. Did you get to the, that, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:40:38 I forget what was it at, it's one of the museums in Melbourne, they did, they showed all his fashion and shit. I'm not talking too good. They did, that was, when was, that was a while ago. It was an act, yeah. Was it an act? Yeah, no, I didn't get to it. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah, it would have been. I was picturing it at somewhere else. Anyway. Cool. It's good, so I was great. It was a, it was a. It was a cool expedition. Pretty amazing. Expedition?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Oh, an expedition to see the exhibition. Exhibition. Yeah, I caught a train there. Oh. Yeah, lots of a few good men that day. Just a few. Over the top. Bo was one of the first white artists to appear on the US variety show Soul Train, and he performed two songs, fame, as well as Golden Years, and both were more aimed fun little
Starting point is 00:41:31 for it for you. Golden Years famously covered by Marilyn Manson. What was the first version of it I heard? Golden, yeah. Golden, wa, wa, wa. It's like just, how's the bow is it? It's the bow is it? Alright. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I know this song. I didn't sound like either, really. But hey, it's okay. Oh, that was what you were saying. Yeah. You said we're in a little stand-up. Just a little, little quip. Little quip, quip, quip.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Just a little quip. Oh, ow. You just quiped me. It hurts. Ow. Whip. Whip it good. Station to station was released in 1976. It was produced by Bowie with Harry Maslin.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And it introduced a new Bowie persona, the thin white juk. You know, the thin white juk. Oh, yeah. This is the description of the thin white jute. It says sporting well-groomed blonde hair and wearing a simple and impeccably stylish cabaret style wardrobe, consisting of a white shirt, black trousers and a waistcoat. The jute was a hollow man who sang songs of romance with an agonized intensity while feeling nothing. Ice masquerading as fire. while feeling nothing. I smasquerating as fire.
Starting point is 00:42:45 That's good. The persona had been described as a mad aristocrat, an amoral zombie and an emotionless Aryan superman. Oh my god. I mean, they're all good descriptions. Yeah, well, I put them all together and what have you got? I mean, I'd put that on my posters for a comedy festival show. Faux show.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Then what jook? Then what jook, isn't it? It was also kind of a particularly rough time for him personally. He had overdressed on cocaine several times. He was very unwell. He'd made positive comments about Hitler and fascism and later blamed a lot of it on the thin white Duke character and also the drugs. It's kind of like it was all taken out of context.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I've never heard that. I know. I know. Dave, can you relate to that at all? Is that a context? all taken out of context then. Yeah. So I've never heard that. I know. I know. Dave, can you relate to that at all? Is that a context? It's taken out of context, yes. And also several cocaine overdoses. Dave, we said we wouldn't talk about that on the pod.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Well, it's my overdose, and I'll talk about it if I want. You're right, I'm sorry. Thank you. Sorry to shame you. He moved to Switzerland in 1976, purchasing a chalet in the hills to the north of Lake Geneva. It was a chalet. Sounds lovely. Man, yeah. Because you know, they talk about now there's no money in music and still there's multi-millionaires from music. But back then, the people at the top of music would have been
Starting point is 00:44:05 fucking loaded, I guess. Incredible. Well, he purchased a fucking shallay. Although it did. It did depend because there were times in England where they just got taxed hard. Right? I did the Beatles and they didn't they get taxed like 90% of us on the one point. God, that seems pretty high. That's a tie. But it was a lot. But anyway, in this new environment, in his shell A, his cocaine use decreased and he found time for other pursuits outside his musical career. He devoted more time to his painting and produced a number of postmodernist pieces. He's a clarinetist and painter too.
Starting point is 00:44:38 God damn it. He can do everything. He can literally do fucking everything. It's so annoying. When I can't do one thing, give me one. One thing. Do you want a paint? We'll give you that. No. do fucking everything it's so annoying when I can do one thing give me one one thing do you want a pain? we'll give you that.
Starting point is 00:44:48 no you want to do. yeah you want a pain or. no I can't pain. totally you can talk in a microphone. okay can I do that? yeah you mean you don't run in. that's how easy it is. it's happening.
Starting point is 00:45:01 guys I'm doing it look at me. no hands. I'm doing it! Look at me! No hands! I'm literally holding the microphone. Normally, it's no hands. Anyway, the album Low in 1977 moved away from narration in Bowie's songwriting to a more abstract musical form. I like this part, in which lyrics were sporadic and optional.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I love that just so reason. Eh. Put some in if you want. Yeah. I like that. It received considerable negative criticism upon its release, but it's like it's like it's like I've been heralded as genius. Wow, because that's his first time with Brian Aino, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's right. And this is what he sort of calls the, there's a there's a trilogy here. Or the Berlin trilogy. And there's another word used later. Don't spoil it that I think you might enjoy. Chat don't spoil it.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Composer Philip Glass, praise by his gift for creating fairly complex pieces of music, masquerading as simple pieces. Again, great compliment. Fairly complex, adequate to the years. Heroes was released in 1977, who incorporated pop and rock to a greater extent, and Bowie was joined by guitarist Robert Fripp, another good name. After completing low on heroes, he spent much of 1978 on the World Tour, bringing the music of the first two first
Starting point is 00:46:26 albums in the Berlin trilogy Berlin King Crimson. Sorry. That's Robert Fritz band. You went blank for a second, that's everything you have. Yeah, so the sorry this this tour sort of brought the music of the first two albums almost a million people during Seventy concerts in 12 countries. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Good average crowd size Hmm, and he kind of broken his drug addiction here as well and he was feeling better He's performing a lot better and the final album in what Bowie called his Trip ditch
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yes Hacking back to that first ever episode. So good. Why do you love a trip, Tisha? Well, as these are going, and the third album was Lodgeur, and it was released in 1979, Lodgeur that. It was a mixture of new wave and world music. And there was quite experimental.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So for example, boys keep swimming and tailed band members swapping instruments. Move on, use the chords from Bowie's early composition, all the young dudes played backwards. And red money took the backing tracks from Sister Midnight, a piece previously composed with Iggy Pop. So they were kind of like really playing with music and mixing it around a bit. I like them swapping instruments. That seems fun. To me, they get like, they sing a chorus and then they throw their instrument to the next person. It's like a little musical chair station. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, it's almost like they just stopped respecting their listeners and just like, fuck it, who cares, we just release any old crap. People are buying it. People are buying it. I'm David Bowie, mother fucker. I don't know, I don't play this instrument. Let me have a crack at it. Can we start a band? Dave, you can play bass. I can. I can kind of play the keys and a ukulele.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I'll get a recorder. I mean, yes. Well, it's been unfortunate that Dave took the bass and one thing that I'm adequate at, but. Can you do anything else, Dave? I can also play guitar. Damn, what about drums? We need a drummer. You can do anything else Dave? I can also play guitar. Damn what about drums? You can play guitar. Yeah. Do you not know that? Yeah, except drums. You're suddenly so much more
Starting point is 00:48:36 attractive to me. Thank you. I'm a bad boy. But I'm a real sucker for the drums. Oh well I'll have a go. Thank you. Just like this band is clearly having a go. Yeah, we're just gonna have a go. That's all we could do. I can do the drums. Have a go. I can do the drums. Have a go. I can do the drums. Have a go. I can do the drums. Have a go. Have a go. I can do the drums. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a go. Have a. Have a go. Have the US. So it's still doing pretty well. Jumping ahead a little bit to the next year. Slow down, Jess. I can't keep up with these crazy timeshifts. I am going to be jumping ahead soon but I just also wanted to talk about scary monsters and super creeps, which was in 1980, produced the number one hit ashes to ashes. That's a great song. Yeah. And it revisited the character of Major Tom from Space Audity as well. He paired with Queen in 1981 for a one-off single release, under pressure.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Oh, so good. So good. After it. Yeah, I don't like it. Don't you? Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum I know I'm a widow in this one very nice. It's okay. This is a safe place. I remember after Bowie died though. Spoilers. They released like the raw recording of just their vocals and it's really cool. Yeah right. Really cool to listen to that because you're like holy shit. Those are two very powerful voices. So yeah, that was kind of cool and it became Bowie's third UK number one single. So it did really well. He reached his peak of popularity and commercial success in 1983 with Let's Dance. It's wild how long he was at the top four.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah, crazy, isn't it? And the album went platinum in both UK and the US. It's three singles became top 20 hits in both countries and yeah, the album was number one tonight, which was in 1984, another dance orientated album, found Bowie collaborating with Tina Turner and once again, Iggy Pop as well. It included a number of cover songs among them, the 1966 Beach Boys hit God Only Nose. That's one of my favorite tunes. It's one of my all-time favorite.
Starting point is 00:51:09 The original though. Yeah, the hip. Not Fitz-Dawson. I love that song too. Really? Oh, nice. That can be the first song we cover. That's our song.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah, I think the Beach Boys are already nailed it. Yeah, no, let's cover the song that we all think is one of the best ever. And make it a lot worse. Yeah, no, let's cover the song that we all think is one of the best ever and make it a lot worse. Yeah, exactly. I'm so glad you guys get it. He probably showed his solo career in 1989 and he retreated to the relative anonymity of band membership for the first time since the 70s. So he's like, no, no, no, I'm not going to be part of a big group now. And the band that he sort of was put together was Tin Machine. And although he intended Tin Machine to operate as a democracy, he kind of dominated both in songwriting and in decision-making. And they had some commercial success with their debut self-titled album, but
Starting point is 00:51:59 Bowie put the second album on hold and sort of did some more touring as a solo artist again. In October of 1990, a decade after his divorce from Angie, he and Angie divorced. That's not, I can't, I can't think of it. That's not the song with Jagger. He didn't write it about her. Angie. Angie.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Angie. I just don't hear of a lot of Angie's and he was playing the Jagger, right? I feel like I've heard that before. It feels very believable if it is true, but also. Quick to just look it up. All right. That's my parents son, by the way. I'll stand in the way.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah. Even I feel like he's acting there. Because they all are like sleeping around together and stuff. Dad tells the story sometimes that him and his best mate when his younger would drink and I got so drunk and then his mate, Steve, they were just laugh so hard because I just see it was so drunk that he was dancing, hugging a pole, but singing pole Angie. I love you.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I still love you. Pole Angie. Are you right? Angie's written, oh it's a rumor that it's written about David Burie's wife Angela. I felt like I heard that. She wrote in her autobiography that she once walked in on Bowie and Mick Jagger and Bed together. Yeah, because as room is that they had an affair, right? That is. Yep. So yes. Believe.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Very good. Well done. Bow and yet. Bull and jet. Anyway, he met, so in 1990, he met Supermodel Iman. They were introduced by a mutual friend, and he recalled, I was naming the children the night we met. It was absolutely immediate. Oh, wow. I'm like, which children?
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yes, I am. Or future children. It is re-naming his already adult children. I'm on, what do you want me to call him? I'll call him Frank. Do you like that? We know. What do you want?
Starting point is 00:53:52 We want anything you need. He's currently Duncan, but we can change that. That is negotiable. Dad, I'm 27. Shut up, Frank. You like that? You like Frank? Huh?
Starting point is 00:54:04 Do you like when I tell them to shut up? Because I can do it again. Shut up Frank. She loves it. She loves it. They married in 1992. Ten machine resumed their work the same month, but their audience and critics were ultimately left pretty disappointed and showed very little, they were disappointed in the first album and showed very little, just in a second, so. Right. Did not win them back. They too would again.
Starting point is 00:54:31 They're live album, Tim Machine Live, Oivey, baby. Are you serious? I'm serious. Oh no. I think that's a whole reason I copy and paste that in because I wanted to say that to you. Oh, sorry, baby. Oivey, baby. It failed commercially and the band kind of drift I wanted to say that to you. Oh, sorry, baby. Oh, baby, baby. It failed commercially, and the band kind of drifted apart.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Unbelievable, that it failed. Oh, no. And boy, he went back to his solo career. He and his wife had a daughter, Alexandria or Lexi. Zara Jones, and she was born in August of 2000. They resorted primarily in New York and London, as well as owning an apartment in Sydney's Elizabeth Bay. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Did not know that. Never heard of Elizabeth Bay? No, I had to ask a Sydney side of where it is. Is it like an affluent nice? Yeah, it's a really nice area. Right on the, I think, I think, and I apologise Sydney people if I'm wrong, but I think it's quite close to like the apartment on the ocean. Right, point Papa.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And they had the... You're saying other places that I still don't know. That's where Malcolm turned with our Provinist to live. Yeah, I was told it's in the vague proximity of kind of where the Provinist to lives. Which is Point Parper, well done Matt. Thank you. Good job everybody. So I'm skipping ahead a bit now,
Starting point is 00:55:38 because like I said at the very beginning, there is not possibly enough time to talk about everything the Bowie did. And basically, he continued to release an abundance of work across so many different styles of music and recreating his image and his style many times. Throughout the 90s, for example, he went through a more electronic phase of music. And he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in January of 1996. Jumping ahead quite a bit. On the 10th of January 2016, two days after his
Starting point is 00:56:09 69th birthday and the release of the album Blackstar, Bowie died from liver cancer in his New York City apartment. He'd been diagnosed 18 months earlier, but it not made the news of his illness public. No, I was so shocked. Yeah. It was a shock. I know a lot of people were, but. Yeah. Wow. It just felt like, really? He just released an album.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Which is actually an amazing way to go out. Yeah. Yeah, great album. And Johnny Cash did the same, right? It's interesting how some big artists will be able to live just long enough. Yeah, hang on. In Cash's case to record an album or bowies just to see it released. You hear stories of that across so many different things. They're not just artists,
Starting point is 00:56:49 you'll hear people holding on to like and to live. It's wedding or something. They'll die soon after. Or the new Star Wars release. Exactly. Similar. Similar emotional experiences. Not a big life milestones. That you want to be around for. Things that really matter. Yeah. Like being disappointed by a Star Wars for. Things that really matter. Yeah. Like being disappointed by a Star Wars film, moments before death. What a way to go. What a way to go. Following Bowie's death's fans gathered at impromptu street shrines at the mural of Bowie in his birthplace of Brixton, South London. Fans laid flowers and they sang his songs. Other memorial sites included Berlin, L.A., and outside his apartment in New York as well. After the news of his death, sales of his albums and singles soared. As it always does when, when any kind of strange. Yeah, I guess it's maybe some people mourning and other people just going, oh shit yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:49 shouldn't listen to that guy. Yeah. He's dead now. Hmm. Makes him cooler. He insisted that he didn't want a funeral at all. And according to his... He's a referee, don't. Probably before. He doesn't have to be honest. God. So he didn't want it? He didn't want a funeral. No funeral. Did they have one? No.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And according to his death certificate, he was cremated in New Jersey a couple of days after he died. I should ask you. Fun to funky. I want to talk a tiny bit about his legacy as well and then a fun fact at the end. Keep in mind as well. I've only talked about the first few decades of his music career. He was also in films from 1968. People are going to be pissed off if you don't go into the lab run. We watched in Provis going to hate it. We watched it in Provis going, I loved it.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Interesting. It was 20 years apart to experiences 120 You've ever with the labrins was written inside the labrins. Yeah So yeah, so I've only touched on Part of his music career. I haven't even gone into his acting career or anything else I'm glad you mentioned his painting. Yeah, he's been painting in there too. But it's amazing. But I just mean like it's amazing
Starting point is 00:59:08 that I've talked for an hour about this person and I've covered one small facet of their life. That's amazing. I'm talking about his hit cover with the Jagger of Dancing in the Street, which they did for charity. And they made a film clip like in half a day, they just shot it. Just dancing around of your scene.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I've seen the clip. Have you seen the video of it where they've taken out the music? And it's just them breathing, which I think someone's dubbed over them breathing, but it's so fun. That's not just like the shoe shuffling and stuff. I'll find it in person. That's so funny. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So for Bowie's 1960s and Uncommercial breakthrough, the song Space Oddity won him an Ivo novello special award for originality. That's a cool award. I feel like other one hit one, as you were talking about Matt, probably would get that kind of respect later on if they went on to make other songs Yeah, it wasn't just the Macarena or the ketchup song, which is fun, but not
Starting point is 01:00:11 Where do you think so that's timeless also if you don't do anything apart from that people like well that was That was your mum but There was never a word given to the song song Tiesto is that I think there was never a ward given to the song song. Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta He won six Grammy Awards and four Brit Awards winning best British male artist twice, the award for outstanding competition to music in 1996, and the Brit's icon award for his lasting impact on British culture, which was given after his death in 2016. It's kind of fun for some reason, expecting to win way more Grammys and Brit Awards, but he declined the Royal Honor of the Commander of the Order of the British in 2000 and he and he turned down a knighthood in 2003. I'm going to make him Sir David Bowie. He's like, nah,
Starting point is 01:01:16 thanks. I'm good, thanks. I just think he's so rock and roll. Yeah. The telegraph in 2016 estimated Bowie's total worldwide sales at 140 million records. In the United Kingdom, he was awarded nine platinum's 11 gold and eight silver albums, and in the US, five platinum and nine gold. In 2016, Rolling Stone proclaimed Bowie the greatest rock star ever. And I wanna just finish on this fun fact. And I know I'm usually the judge of if they're fun or not, but here is my fun fact. Okay, that was fun.
Starting point is 01:01:53 In September of 1998, Bowie launched an internet service provider BowieNet. Developed in conjunction with Robert Goudale and Roy and Ron Roy. Subscribers to the Dialup service were offered exclusive content as well as a Boeing Net email address and internet access. The service was closed by 2006. Much of your emails like Jess Perkins at Boeingnet.com. That's cool. I mean it could have been just Bowie.net. It could have been. I just didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I think it's got Bowie.net.com. And that is my brief overview of an amazing career, all the first few decades of a career of David Bowie. That is pretty cool. Thank you. Thank you. Matt, did you have anything in there that you wanted to add? I'm trying to think now. It's so hard to capture.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Because since I abandoned that report, I went so deep in a journey cache that I just can't remember anything about David. Yeah, I imagine you probably were across a lot of the things. I did find a website, said what did, what did David Bowie do at your age? And you put in your age and it tells you what, oh, can you do our ages? Yes. We won't reveal that, so of course that would be offensive. So our age, David. To time.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah, to time. He moonwalked long before Michael Jackson on the diamond dog tour and there's a video He's bloody moonwalking. Oh man. He invented the fucking moonwalk. What did he do at? Why I'm putting in your age, but I'm not gonna reveal what it is He created the hit under pressure in collaboration Yeah, he had a very good year, my birthday. But obviously you had to change the 16 to a 19. Yeah, because he...
Starting point is 01:03:52 To make that birthday work. Exactly. But, yeah, that's cool. I think people... It's fun! Yeah, that is cool. I don't think my age is really a deep dark secret. I am 3000 years old. Exactly today.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Oh, happy birthday! You old bastard. You old bastard. Hey, let's thank some people. Or should we say, I'm sure a lot of people suggested that. Oh, yeah, of course. Sorry, I'm going to say that at the very start. Who are those cool people? Um, this topic was suggested by Zoe Jones, who maybe is a long distance relative of Zoe. Wow. Zoe Jones. So she got the surname and her first name, Ram's with Bowie. And she spells it, ZOEY, which I love. Um, and Sally, um, Sally Pritchard as well. Thank you, Zoe and Sally. Yeah. that's interesting. I know I would have thought it would be more, but I searched through both hats. Maybe I didn't, I don't know, I try.
Starting point is 01:04:52 There's gonna be someone. There's definitely, I'm looking now while we, no, fuck. This is at Zoe, F and John. That's great. That was it, just those two. I did check. Back yourself. Yes. Okay. Thank you, that those guys. Sally and Zoe for suggesting David Bell is a topic. Great one. And if you want to suggest another great topic, of course,
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Starting point is 01:05:54 I'm not going to, I will go with your, my idea was what kind of dog. So diamond dog. Oh, fuck, that's good. That's good. Alright hang on, that's your pitch. Dave, you get to choose. OK, great. So, OK, if we go with maths, we give them a type of dog. OK.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Sounds good when you put it on. Can I jump in before you're one? Because yours is probably going to be the most. Oh my god, you have an idea too. We say what kind of thin white thing they are. LAUGHTER That leads terribly honest. The thin white dog.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I was going to say we name the backing band. Oh, yeah, very good. The hype. Like the hype or the spiders from Mars or. Or, yes. The dogs. The dogs. So what do you want to go with?
Starting point is 01:06:37 Backing band, type of dog, thin white something. Look, I'm having to go change my vote. What do you want to go with? Let's go to Jessus. It's your topic Jess. I think we should go back and bads fun. Dine! It's more patronized me. It is also more creative.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's the best one. It is the best one. But the thin white something is very funny. You are a thin white worm. Gross. Yeah, nearly everything would be no good. In what? In what stools.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, you're cool. All right, let's do it then. Who wants to kick it off? I'd love to thank. From California in Monterey Park, Jacob Jaron, or gyron. Jacob is the gyrosis. Oh, yeah, perfect. Perfect. Jacob Jaron or gyron Jacob with the gyros. Oh, yeah, perfect. Perfect. Take up gyron with the gyro run son That's great Dave do gyron The do j run run
Starting point is 01:07:38 Jacob gyro take a job. What do you reckon? G I R O N? zero Yeah, could be sure Jacob, what do you reckon? G-I-R-O-N. Zero? Yeah, it could be zero. Jekyll, zero. Andy Jareto's. But he's from California, so if we were looking at like a French place maybe, but I think they probably would have just... Garon.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Americanized it and called it Garon. Jacob Garon, love it. Jacob Garon and the Jro rate is so good. I'd also love to thank a lot closer from Melbourne in the suburb of Carnegie. Mr. Darren Luchnar. Darren. Darren Luchnar in the Luchtime Boys.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Do you say Luchtime? I try to say Luchtime. I have struggled a lot today. Darren Luchnar in the Luchtime Boys is pretty good. I'm really good. Don. Down in Luster and the lunchtime boys. It's pretty good. I like it. Don't patronize me. No, I enjoy it. They all dress up as sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:08:30 They're cross cut off. How could I thank some people now? If you must. I would like to thank from Brighton East here in Melbourne. Very affluent suburb, very nice. No, Brighton East. Oh, really? So is there a difference between bright and bright naced?
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, I grew up there. I grew up near, you go from Brighton on the beach, which is the most expensive, then Brighton Naced, and then a part of that crosses over the highway. So you could even be on the wrong side of the highway where I grew up in Brighton Naced, but I grew up in Marabbon, which touches Brighton East.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Wow, so it's a quick drop off. It's a real shit hole. Now, it's a great spot. That's where I used to play golf all the time of Brighton East at the Brighton Golf Club, of course. It's a great spot. I'm only fucking around, Michael Irwin. I just, when you, when I found out you know, was Irwin.
Starting point is 01:09:25 He hasn't said it yet. I'm thinking Michael Irwin, if you didn't get that Michael. No, what happened when you found out his name was Michael Irwin? I got furious. I just went back to that time where Jess... Oh, I cracked it. Cracked it about all the Irwin's, especially Michael. If I remember it right, is that the one you really got furious at? Yeah, I got mad about him. Mad about Michael.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Oh, Michael Erwin and the mad hatters. Oh, that's cool. Mad hatters, man. You didn't enjoy that. Go, you try. No, I'm shit at it, okay? You hate me. I get it.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Michael Erwin and the Snape Crocodiles. Yes, but it has to be said like that. Snappie Crocodiles. Crocodiles. And then people would read the post and be like Snappie crocodiles. No. Crocodiles. Snappie Crocodiles.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Crocodiles. And they address as crocodiles in tuxedos. I love it. I love it. Who else you got Dave? I would like to thank from our capital territory, the Australian capital territory, a person who is, I believe frequently I recognize their profile picture frequently in contact on Twitter, which we always enjoy. Laura Cotterill. Laura Cotterill.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Do you wanna go again, sorry? What happened, sorry. I had it spelled Lorna, and then I'm like, must be Lorna. Change it to Lorna, and then I went, devil, check that, it was Laura. I think we are reading through, yeah. Like it would have been changing multiple times before your eyes. But I could see it changing, it was fun. All right, got you.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Sorry. I would like to thank from our Australian capital territory, a frequent Twitter, which we always appreciate, Laura Cotterall. Laura Cotterall and the Codial. Laura Cotterall and their Colton Flu medications. I believe Laura is a student of some type I remember seeing in a profile before. Possibly a writing student in my right Laura. Possibly not. So the coffe medication.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Laura Cotterall and the studious Kidly Winks. I love it. I love it too. I love it. It's almost as good as Lower third That good that good. Lower third is such a that is One of the worst things that I've ever heard of all the best and there was on that fine line Anyway, thank you so much Laura. We appreciate your support. I would like to thank a couple people as well
Starting point is 01:12:04 If that's cool with you guys, that'd be so good. Another one who's a frequent Twitter and emailer as well from roville now. I'm definitely gonna get the surname wrong here But I'm gonna give it my very best shot. I would like to thank Jackie Bonifin Bonifin that's what I always always read it as she's also she's given us a topic. One of our episodes was based on a Czechy suggestion. Maybe it was that the Christmas time mysteries maybe even. Maybe, Jackie know I've had a couple of email chats. What about a Czechy Bonafon and the benevolent? Bonoffie pies.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah. Benevolent, Bonoffie pies. Did I ask you? Jackie Bonafon and the benevolent Bonoffie pies. Love it. Rolls off the tongue. That's made me so hungry. Bonoffie bun, so it the Bitnevellant, Benoffie Pies. Love it. Rolls off the tongue. Benoffie Buns, so it's all literation.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Oh, Benoffie Bun. Tismarada's song about Rowville. It's called 14 years in Rowville. The chorus went, I sentenced you to 14 years in Rowville. That's about right. That's funny. Get worse for murder these days. You get worse.
Starting point is 01:13:03 What? For murder. Probably a good thing. You get worse than 14 years in rural. I feel like he's I heard more. You get worse. No, you get worse. Famerda and that scale is correct. That's fine. And I'd also like to thank, can we have a lot of like a real run of Australians there, like three victorians, in them, which is very cool, but across the seas, I would like to thank
Starting point is 01:13:27 from Glasgow, Glasgow, Josh Carson. Josh Carson and the talk show hosts. Okay. Johnny Carson. Josh Carson. Josh Carson and the talk show hosts. I love it. That's great.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's cool. There you go. Well, thank you, Josh. Thank you. Jackie, Laura, Michael, Darrenryl and Jacob. Thank you. Let us know when you hit number one on any chart in the world. Even if it's Belgium or something. That's still being pressed slightly. Really? Kind of. Number one in Belgium.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Get worse from Erda. Nice try. Thanks to everyone the support show through Patreon. You really do make a difference in our lives. Paul's for reflection. You can get in contact at any time at dogewonpod.gmail.com. As I said, suggest a topic through the link, which is in the description of this episode, and at dogewonpod for all the social medias.
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