Do Go On - 125 - The Legend of Bigfoot

Episode Date: March 14, 2018

Matt talks about a few of the most famous bigfoot tales, including how the creature got its name and the controversial Patterson-Gimlin Film... whether you're a believer or not, it's interesting stuff...!- Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod- Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:http://www.times-standard.com/general-news/20170426/throwback-thursday-if-the-shoe-fits-its-bigfootshttp://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/079790.htmlhttp://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/finding-bigfoot/lists/10-jacko-the-ape-man/http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/10/17/bigfoot-reportedly-sighted-in-northern-california-pictures-go-viral.htmlhttps://gizmodo.com/the-bigfoot-lawsuit-against-california-actually-makes-s-1823082037https://www.csicop.org/si/show/bigfoot_at_50_evaluating_a_half-century_of_bigfoot_evidencehttps://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/if-bigfoot-were-real/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfMDZ2IifIhttp://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/05/the-origin-of-the-bigfoot-legend/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_and_the_Hendersonshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yetihttps://www.atlasobscura.com/places/boggy-creek-monsterhttp://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/finding-bigfoot/lists/5-new-smyrna-beach-fla-2011-skunk-ape-harrumphs-at-fishermen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Water King and I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Records. Now I can't tell of that echo is in fact Jess's voice or my headphones because we've got a bit of an echo already going on my headphones here in the studio. You'll never know. It was me. It was my voice. It's my favourite thing to do. I do it every week. I just do it quietly.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm hearing double. Four crusties. Yes. I noticed someone left an iTunes review on us recently, which we appreciate if anyone ever does that. And it was like, comes with a Free Simpsons reference every episode. So there we go, our contractual obligation. Very early on there.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Very early. Just nailing it. Getting shit done. All right. All right. Hoorah. The question this is, week, Dave. Just to explain to people who don't know, what's the question about again?
Starting point is 00:01:43 Well, somehow, I don't know if we've ever explained this, but the first episode we ever did was on the Mona Lisa. And to get onto the topic, I decided to ask a question. And then 124 weeks later, we have just kept that tradition up. Okay. Matt just wanted you to say, we ask a question. You didn't have to put it in a brag there about how it was your idea. I bet it wasn't my idea. I believe it was whoever's report was number two just to continue the tradition. So Matt's idea. Oh, okay. You really flipped that on me. You did.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Now I'm not mad at you. There's plenty of praise for all of us. Good idea, Matt. Okay, can I have some? There's plenty of praise for two of us. Fair enough. That would have been better if I'd said plenty said a preenty. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:02:23 And Matt's written a report on a topic. Justin, I don't know what it is about. It's been suggested by a listener, I assume. Yes, it has. I'm just from, yes. Just remembering. I've got to look that up. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:34 The question is this week, Dave and Jess. Hands on buzzers. Okay. Oh, names are buzzers. Which creature is known for the sun? Black Lagoon. That's a... That's not a creature.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's a lagoon. You idiot. I didn't say which... No, sorry, my buzzer is... Black Lagoon. Okay. And so your answer is... It's a weird.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Which creature? Fat man. Funnily enough, my buzzer is... Gone with the wind. Jess, and then your answer? Was that you buzzing in or testing your buzzer? Mine was also a test, so please don't. Yeah, mine was a test.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Both tests. All right, new rule. Let me get the question out before you're buzzing. Interesting. Well, you should turn the buzzers off before the question finishes. Well, hands off buzzers again. And then put them on when I finish the question. Okay, you tell us when you finish the question.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You finish the question with hands on buzzers. Black Lagoon. Sorry, me again. Sorry. Can't be trusted. Take your fucking hand off the buzzer. Question is, which creature is known for the size of one of their body parts more than any other.
Starting point is 00:03:38 What are you thinking? Black Lagoon. Is it a, is it a FARAP? Oh, good. Very good. Train horse peeve. Also, it's been in the hat. It has, and we talked about Valaf a couple of weeks ago for some reason.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think that was your guest, Pat, for one of my topics. Heart the size of far lap. No, very good guess, though. Jess. So, sorry, it's known more for the size of its body part. It's an awfully written question. rather than it being a thing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Okay. I don't understand your question as much as I don't understand my question. Is it, so it's about, I have, elephant tusks. Okay. No, it's a particular kind of creature. Okay. And it is known for having a large body part. Black Lagoon, I can't help it feel.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You just restated the exact same question, but more slowly, somehow thinking that we'd understand. Yeah, you emphasised different parts of the sentence. You're like, don't worry about it. I'll rephrase the question. I'll put a clue in there. Its whole name is about how big this size. Oh, and blacklecund.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Is it big foot? Yes, it's big foot. Oh, thank God. Does the question make sense now? Yeah, yeah. Still not really. Sorry, everybody. It's not everyone at home.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I've never really thought about it. Does it have big feet? Yeah. But like abnormally big feet or something that I actually don't know what big foot is Is a gorilla man? Well, you're going to tell us. We hope.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Fuck, that's a big task of... Yeah, I want solid evidence. Okay. In this report. I want to be convinced. It's interesting because there's so much... I was thinking it was going to be like the moth man. Like there was one origin story
Starting point is 00:05:26 and it sort of came out from there. But this is something that goes back centuries. There's legends of... Anyway, let's do the report. Of big feet. What is Bigfoot is what I've written here? Bigfoot is a big hairy humanoid creature who was thought by some to inhabit wilderness areas in North America, especially and especially the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:05:49 While the term Bigfoot was first recorded in the 1950s, there had been stories of similar creatures prior to this for centuries. According to an article on Today I Found Out.com by Emily Upton. Stories of a wild man existed among the Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest, long before white colonists moved in. Versions of Bigfoot range from a harmless giant who stole fish from fishermen's nests and nets to cannibalistic monsters living on mountain peaks. These stories varied from tribe to tribe and even from family to family,
Starting point is 00:06:23 which meant that Bigfoot had a lot of different names. Only in, well, obviously since the 50s has the Bigfoot name sort of taken over, especially in North America as the... In my family's name is Big Peen. Yes. Various family of family, of course. Yeah, still also no hard evidence of that existing. A lot of hard evidence in Big Pain.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Oh, God, that's awful. Awfully good. Awfully hard. The most common names now, though, are relatively modern, Bigfoot, obviously from the 50s, and Sasquatch, which is actually, it comes from a much older word. It comes from the Native American... Halkemelim word Saskets.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Sounds like a cool band name. Yeah, I think it's quite an old name. But Sasquatch was sort of like taken from that in the 20s. Sasquatch is a cool band. Yeah. Big band, I've seen them before. They're pretty good, Melbourne band. Oh, you're saying Saskette.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, Saskettes are like the Rockets, you know. Yeah. The Saskettes. It's cool. That is cool. Sasquatch are also. Let's do it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:34 No, I agree. Let's start a band again. Again. Did we do it last week? Yeah, well, we started a band and then I assume when you said again, then we must have broken up somewhere in there. Remember we were looking for a drummer? Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And I completely forgot that Al from Two and a Thing of Tank. Oh, yeah, he tweeted. Is that why he tweeted that? Yeah. He's like, I played the drums. I thought it's just a brag. Yeah, I thought he was being. Yeah, it's because we were looking for a drummer.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I thought it was being totes random, but. Yeah, that's so owl. So, according to this article, Bigfoot is described by believers as being between six and eight feet tall with a large forehead and pronounced brow like a caveman's. Wait, six and eight foot. You're over six foot. No, I'm even six even. Come on, mate.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Haven't you. I don't know. I haven't measured myself in a while. Don't point fingers like that. So he's got a big forehead, but he's called big foot. Yeah, I know. A bit rough, right? And a rounded, crested head like a gorilla's.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He is covered in brown or red hair. Oh, oh. and has enormous feet that are his namesake with the biggest estimation at a whopping two feet long by eight inches wide. That's his feet. Yeah. His feet are two feet,
Starting point is 00:08:45 which I also have two feet. He's seen double here, four feet. There are legends of similar creatures all around the world. For instance, you guys might have heard of the Yeti or an abominable snowman of Nepal. Yes, which Jess can't say. But had he said, Jim?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I can. I just have to imagine. and a bomb inside a bull. Abominable. Oh yeah, someone, anyway, someone tweeted that, right? Good tip. Very deliberate, but it still works.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Apparently, it's known as the abominable snowman due to a poor translation of word metto-kangmi, which would have more accurately translated as man-bear snowman, which I love way more. I like it. Two man in it, man-bear-snow-man.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I love how it's book-ended by man. Yeah, that's good stuff. Do you think, I just had this thought, what do you think about a new game for kids? It's not duck, duck, goose. It's man bear snowman. So if you get called a man, but for the second time, you're it? I guess so. Man bear, I only said man once.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Stay still. There's also the... Yeah, it's a confusing game, which is what I like about it. There are also the Almas of Central Asia, which I hadn't heard of before, or the Chechanya of Siberia. The mappanguery of South America, apologies for all these pronunciations, and the Yauis and Yahus of Australia. I forgot about Yauis.
Starting point is 00:10:10 To our overseas listeners that are probably not aware of Yowie power, which was for a while they had a sort of kind of surprise knock off type thing where it was a Yowie, a chocolate Yowie and inside was a tour you build much like a Kinder surprise. Yep. Man, I loved those.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I was really more of a Kinder Surprise girl. Really? Oh, well, I'm a yaoi. Yowie boy. Yeah, I'm a Yowie boy. And the only Yahoo I know of is Yahoo! Serious. Yeah. And dot com. Great point, yes. It was it, I think it's an old, that was used as a, and maybe it comes from this with like,
Starting point is 00:10:44 these bloody Yahoo's, if you're talking about if some people are a bit, you know, rowdy or something. Check out these Yahoo. Check out these yawies. Nah, never heard it. Nah. I'm starting it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You bloody yahuies. So there are these legends all around the world, right? The only continent apparently that doesn't have one is Antarctica. Aw. Yeah, I know a bit rough. Is that because no people live there to make something up? Or to have seen it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah. Stand, well, I stand by what I said. I really hope, I don't know, I hope it happens organically, but I really hope at least one of you is right on board with these guys being real. Because I am. What do you mean? Spoilers. Of course I am.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah. Yeah, I know. That was almost ridiculous. Of course they're real. What a stupid thing to say? You're doing your report on a real thing. Yeah, no, that's, I'm not going to sit here and talk about something that's made up. Would I waste everyone's time?
Starting point is 00:11:40 What a waste of time that would be? Never done that before. This is actually, this is kind of... Santa Claus. The Moth Man. I think this might be our third in a trilogy of Cryptozoology reports. Recap for us? Moth Man.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Lockness Monster. Ah. Great. This current one we're doing now, the Bigfoot. What about the Yule lads? No, they're crypto. Crypto boys. Crypto-boyology.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah. They're the Pacific Northwest and North California in particular. I really wanted to say North Carolina, I guess, because I keep talking about those fucking Michael Jowardin shorts. So, yeah, apparently that's, they're the most specific areas where, known as Bigfoot hotspots in North America. They do have others and other myths across North America as well with some great names like the Ohio grass man. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's got to be officially our favorite. I mean, don't call it too early. I was going to say. And this is like the Gary Gary Man or something. You're calling it early. So the Ohio grass man's said to roam grasslands north of Akron. Selling pot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I mean, how tall is the grass going to be for him to hide? Yeah, no, that's the wild thing. about it, right? Surely everyone else is, you know, in the snow or in the forest or whatever or something. What about this on? Momo the Monster. Yeah, come on, Dave. You called it way too early. Momo the monster. A hairy beast with a pumpkin-shaped head from Missouri. Come on. I love the pumpkin-shaped head. Mo-mo's cute, though. Yeah. Momo the Monster. It sounds like an entertainer. Yeah. A kid's still scared of him. Sesame Street. He's on Sesame Street. I really do think this is my favorite, although I do agree with
Starting point is 00:13:28 Dave, probably the podcast official one would be the Ohio Grassman. I think my unofficial favorite named Bigfoot type beast is Florida's skunk ape. What is he? Is he a skunk or an egg? Also known as stink ape and swamp cabbage man. Cabbage Man. Why? According to.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Wait, is he like, is it swamp cabbage? Like, what's the grouping here? Are they separate words, three separate words? Or is it like swamp cabbage man? Oh, that's interesting. I read it. It was written in three different words. So I read it as lives in the swamp,
Starting point is 00:14:11 smells like cabbage, looks kind of like a man. Like a man. He's not a man who looks. Small hands. No, no, no. Smells of cabbage. In my reading was, it's a man who eats the swamp, lives in a cabbage, smells like a man.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yes. We'll never know. That's one of the big mysteries. How does he eat a swamp? Just be a man who drank a lot of swank water. I did write a little bit down from Animalplanet.com about the Skunk Cape. Apparently gets... I mean, if it's on AnimalPlanet.com, it's going to be real.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Sure. Dave, you're convincing to believe it. It's not called CryptoMade Upshit.com. Which, by coincidence, is also my new homepage. So apparently, according to that website, the name Skunk Cape comes from the creature's appalling smell. Oh. One relatively recent sighting of the skunk ape occurred in May of 2011
Starting point is 00:15:05 where a fishing guard and two of their clients were cruising along a mangrove swamp when they spotted something at first thinking it was your average animal like a feral hog or bear. Well country. Just your average feral hog swimming in the swamp. Oh, don't worry about that there. That's just a feral, whatever I said it was. I'm going to take him out with a couple of bullets of my trigger gun
Starting point is 00:15:32 My trigger gun I've got a trick gun A non-trigger gun The non-trigger gun is shooting all the time I can't use this. This is a trigger gun I got a bit more choice But with the non-trigger gun sometimes I don't have to reload
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah I call them break hours I got a 10 minute break And then I put the bulls back in and I start shooting Those ferro peg I'm talking about But as they're going to got closer. They realized it was something else entirely, describing it as a wide, as,
Starting point is 00:16:11 describing it as wide as a side-by-side refrigerator freezer with a muscular torso, a zizi top beard, and a hairless forehead. The creature stared at them for about 15 seconds and then made a guttural harumph or snort and walked away into the mangroves, according to the animal. But this day just, it's just sounding like save Michael Edies in the morning, you know? Just like not much hair on top, but a lot on the beard. And one of the stars are the Kentucky Fried Chatten podcast. With a review Kentucky Fried Chicken. Come on check that.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's very funny. Nice short episodes, bite size. But apparently if you don't want to eat KFC, apparently don't listen to it because you'll... Eat KFC. Yeah. Even though I don't know if they necessarily make it sound. Well, they're good. The most recent episode I saw them post today,
Starting point is 00:17:02 They review a refresher towelette. I haven't heard that one. Another example is the Fook monster. It's a fuck monster. F-O-U-K-E. That's a fuck monster. A-Fook monster. That's a fuck-A.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Also known as the Boggy Creek monster. Boggy Creek. Or the southern Sasquatch. Yeah, I like it. And it is seen around the town of Fouke, Fook-Fuk, Arkansas. It's a fuck monster. The town of fuck. The most famous of these sightings occurred on May the 2nd, 1971,
Starting point is 00:17:36 at the home of Bobby and Elizabeth Ford. The Ford's had only recently moved into the house and reported that the creature terrorised them, even reaching in through a window before being chased away by Bobby and his brother. This didn't deter it for long, though, as it returned later in that night. Bobby had a gun and he shot at the beast,
Starting point is 00:17:54 believing that he got it. But a significant search occurred, and scratches and footprints, were found, but a body nor blood never was. This sounds like a job for Scooby-Doo. Raggy? And it turns out that it was the owner of the amusement park all along. I reckon that's a pretty good thing.
Starting point is 00:18:16 If it wasn't for those pesky kids. If it wasn't for that gun you shot me with. Fuck. This story caught the attention of local media and many more reporting of sightings occurred over the next few years. And also many movies have been. been made about the creature, including 1972's The Legend of Boggy Creek. That sounds like a real box office hit.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And the follow-up, 1985's Boggy Creek 2. And the legend continues. It was like 13 years later. Yeah, there was one in between, but this was the direct, like this was the sequel. How many Academy Awards did that win? Countless. Countless. I did not count them.
Starting point is 00:18:56 But as of today, no definitive proof has been found. Sorry about that, everyone. Just dropped a drink bottle. Don't do that to me. I'm getting a little dry. You can start this sentence again. But as of today, no definitive proof has been found of the Fouquet monster. Fuck monster.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Sorry, the fuck monster. Honestly. This topic isn't about the Boggy Creek monster, though. All the funk monster, the funk monster is a very different thing. Or the skunk cape. It's about Bigfoot, right? and entirely different. What's Bigfoot's favorite genre?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Of foreign films. Oh, of foreign films. Yeah. Is it your Bollywood fan? Docos. Love's a foreign language docco. Okay. So I'm going to tell you about a few of the most famous Bigfoot stories.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The first dates back to the early part of the 20th century, even before the term Bigfoot was even coined. This story is about a man named Albert Ostman and comes again from animalplanet.com. These guys love the Bigfoot stories. I don't think... Again, if it's on animalplanet.com. It's a thing.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Is it an animal? Is it on our planet? Yes. Ticks birth boxes. Two yes. Two solid yes. Such a cute little yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:19 All right, man. Ostman was a lumberjack who was out camping in British Columbia in Canada in 1924. One night when he was tucked up. in bed, sleeping in his tent. The next thing he knew, he was being carried away, still in his sleeping bag, by a family of big foots. He was having a dream. A family.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Do you call them big feats? I was going to say, that must have been discussed before. I think it's big foots, it's got to be. It can't be big feet. Like moose. Yeah. Big moose. We carried by a big moose.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yes. It's much like a big moose. Big foots, maybe. Yeah, big foots could work. Big shoes? Well, that's a, yeah. Thank you. There's no wrong answers here.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah, I was about to block. And I thought, no, that's what Jess does. I'm an enabler. I will ruin things by letting it happen. A very different thing indeed. So the family of Bigfoot included a father, bigfoot, a mother Bigfoot, a daughter bigfoot, and a son. Okay, he could tell the gender of them.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, they weren't wearing clothes. So the girl ones had big eyelashes and were wearing skirts. Yes, Jess, they didn't have clothes on their eyes. Very easy to tell. I think if what you're saying is gender is fluid and it can't be determined by genitals, then yes, you're right. This is a very old school way of looking at it. So what you're saying there is they weren't wearing clothes,
Starting point is 00:21:52 so the girl ones had like breasts. Look, I don't know. I haven't spoken to Osterman personally. Why not? I ran out of time. And he's long dead. The girl one had a pink bow in her hair. So it's like, oh, that's the daughter.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And the dad was wearing a tie and a bowler hat. E-bola hat? That sounds dangerous. What a badass. A hat of an Ebola. So he was slung over one of their shoulders. Ostman was taken on a bit of a hike, which apparently took multiple hours before he was put down.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Do you reckon you're yelling or do you just end up just taking? it and you're like, all right, whatever. It's amazing. Because they didn't wake him up until he was already on the journey. Like, them getting into his tent, chucking him up on the shoulder, bouncing along. A heavy sleeper. So he wakes up mid-bounce. Mid-bounce.
Starting point is 00:22:47 That's crazy. I reckon my first thought would be, what is going on? My first thought would be. I don't know what you would think. That is a great first thought. My first thought is, I've got to see these four animals, genitals. so I can tell what gender they are when I get back to tell people. So I can assume their gender.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And also that they're a family. Yeah. Can't they just all be friends of different ages and different bits and pieces? Absolutely. Thank you. No, Matt. Thank you. The family didn't seem to want to hurt him.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Sorry to say family. I'm just going along with his... No, that's fine, yeah. Of course. Because load of BS story. Obviously, everything else is definitely real, just not necessarily the fact that they're a family. Anyway, the family didn't seem to want to hurt him, but apparently somehow made it clear that he wasn't allowed to leave.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Apparently, the family communicated with grunts, and Ostman remained kidnapped for the next few days before he came up with an escape plan. This was his plan. He'll tunnel his way out. I never suspect that. He's just in the middle. They're watching him. They're huddled around him. I don't think these creatures have understand.
Starting point is 00:23:59 and just to the mechanics of tunneling. They won't know where I'm going. What's happening? He's very slowly disappearing into the earth. Why is he going down? How's he going down? Some sort of elevator? Yeah, they know elevator.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, they're not stupid. Fucking hell, man. Don't be, I mean. I don't want to patronise your friends. So his plan included involved, well, it didn't include it entirely was, this is his whole plan, was getting Papa Bigfoot to consume an entire tin of snuff, which is some, like, the only time I've ever seen snuff was
Starting point is 00:24:36 at October fest where some of the German bigfuts were put, sorry, adult male humans, were putting it in that little nook in their hand. What do you call that bit? Is that the nook? Yeah, it can be a nook. Snuff nook. And then they just, like, snort it up. I think maybe it's like tobacco or something, I'm not sure, but it's some sort of a...
Starting point is 00:24:55 It has a similar hit to a tobacco. Yeah, it's like a little energy boost. Anyway, so we... He got the dad Bigfoot to have all the tin, and he did, which made him bend over in pain, incapacitating him, allowing Ostman to escape. What about the other three? I guess they were tending to the dad. They're a loving family.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Ever heard of one, Jess? Actually, now that I think about it, the exact same makeup as your family. Yeah. Where were you in 1924? A mama and a papa and a boy and a girl. Yeah, we're a perfect family. Thank you. That's not quite what I said.
Starting point is 00:25:33 She didn't answer. She did not answer. Very suspicious. Yeah, very slippery. Anyway, on with the report, I guess. It's not to get bogged down in details. So in time, he made it home. It took quite a while.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Obviously, he had to figure out where he was. And obviously, he was pretty tired. He had no snuff to keep him going. How long do you reckon before you'd tell someone about this incident? Well, you'd be missing for a few days, so you'd probably have to explain your absence. Yeah, probably about 15 seconds. Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking of something similar.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Jess, how long would it take you? I don't know. And I try to be quite polite and I ask people like say, hi, how are you? How's your day? I think in this case, I would skip that. Yep. I reckon, yeah, under 15. That's been honest, Jess, you'd put it in an Instagram story.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I think he... Oh, fucking yes, I would. I would. I think he might have made some small talk because he didn't tell anyone for about three decades. What? Okay. All right. And this was because, I guess, I guess, again, I didn't get a chance to call him up.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But I'm guessing he was embarrassed about the story, thought people wouldn't believe him. And he only came forward when other stories started coming out in the 50s. This does remind me of the story of Loch Ness. Yes. When they didn't tell anyone for many, many years. And they seemed to remember that it was a sunny Sunday. Yes. All the details.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Though it could have been a log or an otter. Or a Monday. And it could have been raining. The legend of Bigfoot didn't really hit the wider public's consciousness until the late 1950s when a man named Gerald Crew discovered a set of big footprints. Oh. Which were soon known as Bigfoot footprints. Oh.
Starting point is 00:27:27 An article about these footprints is legitimately. where the name Bigfoot originated from. According to an article archived online, it was titled, Giant Footprints Puzzle Residence Along Trinity River. Catchy title.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Got them in. I love it, punchy. It was written by Andrew Jenzoli. Big fan of his work. And I read it as quoted in the Times Standard. On August 27, 1958, crew and his road construction crew, crew and the crew found the footprints
Starting point is 00:27:57 on the site where they were working in Bluff Creek, California. Bluff sounds a lot like snuff. Coincidence. I think so. Also a word for making things up. That's what I thought I wanted to hear bluff. I'm like, well, clearly.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah, no, me too. We all thought the same joke and I purposefully went a different way. Smart comedy. Always go the third or fourth option. Or even in this case, seventh or eighth. Yeah. That's good. were found in Bullshitville, right next to Prank Town.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Ah, prank, which sounds a little bit like Spank. Oh, seventh option there. Crew made plaster casts of the Prince and took them into the Humboldt Times newspaper, who went on to report on the discovery. Attached to the article was a great photo of a serious-looking Gerald crew holding one of the plaster casts, and I read somewhere that he was asked to smile by the photographer, but he refused saying that if he did,
Starting point is 00:29:02 then someone would accuse me of trickery. Yeah. I switched from talking about him in the third person to the first person mid-sentence there. Sorry about that. Only tricksters smile. So is he like frowning in the photo? He's just looking very earnest.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He's going, ugh. He's doing sharkers? He's tongue out. They'll take me seriously now. The beast's footprint measured 18 by, seven inches and according to cruise measurements had a 50 inch walking stride. Whoa. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:29:38 I see it. Between steps. Right. What's a step? Oh dear. So that's a 50 inch. What's that? 1.25 meters.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So that's a pretty big stride. I'm about 1.2. So I'm definitely not a big foot. Thank you. Got a pretty tight hamstring as well. Can't stride out. You got a stretch before then? Yeah, you got to.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And morning. Morning. Every 12 hours on the hour. According to Genzoli's article, the creature was a regular visitor to the area, saying the latest appearance of the huge thing, like that description, individual or animal, occurred again sometime Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.
Starting point is 00:30:24 The country is some of Humboldt's county's deepest wilderness where not a lot of natural secrets are known to the white man. This story kicked off big media attention locally before even being picked up internationally and really this was where Bigfoot mania began. Like Beatlemania? Yes. But before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Beatles were just, I think they were forming around this time. At least three of them, maybe they were. Not late 50s? Yeah. There were stories that a man named Ray Wallace, a known trickster. and brother of a worker on the site or a construction worker himself, depending on which article I'm quoting from, was responsible for the footprints.
Starting point is 00:31:06 This was a story going around, right? But apparently Wallace wasn't keen to talk about it, reportedly telling a journalist named Bill Chambers that he didn't want to be made a laughing stock of. That does not sound like a very good prankster. Yeah, that's what you want. He does not want a laughing store. I don't want to elicit laughter.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah. In any way. I'm a very serious artist. You're in the wrong biz. Did you ever see anyone laugh at the show punked? No. I don't think so. I arrest my case.
Starting point is 00:31:35 That's probably true. Those pranks are not funny. They are not. Wallace died in 2002 at the age of 84, and after this time, apparently his family came forward to confirm that Wallace was in fact responsible for the footprints. From what I read,
Starting point is 00:31:50 it wasn't clear whether or not this meant that Wallace himself was some sort of a big foot, or if he faked the footprints. Right. I think people probably would have noticed just in like interviewing him that he had super huge feet. 18 inch feet. And they would have been quite out of proportion with the rest of his body.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So it would have been quite noticeable. Again, I didn't get a chance to interview him either. Of course, yeah, of course. Wasn't able to make that. I would assume it's the latter. Okay. Imagine if a little prank that you did created something as famous as Bigfoot. Wouldn't that be a big foot?
Starting point is 00:32:26 That would be so great. But, I mean, the people, a true believer still believe these footprints are genuine. And the area of Bluff Creek continues to be a hotspot for Bigfoot trackers. And that's because of this one and also another, there's been a lot of sightings around that area. But often, you know, where people go to look for something, they will find something, if you know what I mean. But another one of the most famous stories occurred right here in this location. Brunswick. In this studio.
Starting point is 00:32:56 studio. He did sort of point with your hand a little bit. Sorry, I'm vividly telling this story. Oh, you're there. I'm there. I'm in Bluff Creek. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I'm just vividly telling a story. I'm just really in the story. Sorry, if you're not, have I not got you guys in? Sorry for not being vivid. Can't you smell the skunk cape? I can smell some cabbage.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Some swamp cabbage. I can smell a man. I can spell a man. But there's so many ways of reasons why a family might come forward and say this even though it wasn't true. Maybe the feds got to them. Oh, do you think about that?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Or maybe some other, you know, secret organization that we don't even know about, who keep the big foot under wraps. Bluff Creek was also the location for the famous Patterson Gimlin film. Do you guys heard of this? Yes. No. I'm sure. Have you seen it, Jess?
Starting point is 00:33:54 The footage, it's of him walking. Oh, yes. Bigfoot walking? I thought you meant film like motion picture. It is. Oh. It is a motion, it's a motion picture. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Of him walking. Right. About a minute long. Yeah, okay. But it's not a feature length film nominated for an Oscar. Oh. It's just a moving. What a cruel way to find out.
Starting point is 00:34:19 In some ways you're less impressed by a feature film nominated for an Oscar versus an actual film of Bigfoot. Correct. Oh, yeah. Show me the art. It's the most famous evidence. Yeah. I'm inverting commas with my fingers there because some people don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What? I'm sorry. Naysayers. Yes, I've called them that somewhere in here. Anyway, the film was shot in 1967 and it shows a big muscular humanoid ape with large breasts, casually walking upright through a forest clearing.
Starting point is 00:34:56 The quality of the... the footage is a bit dicey, but it's pretty clear. It's the best anyone's ever come up with that hasn't been instantly shut down as BS. Sure. Short for bullshit, Dave. Oh, thank you. The video is named for Roger Patterson and Bob Giblin, the men who shot the footage. Both Patterson and Gimlin had been amateur boxes and rodeo cowboys.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So it hadn't been hitting the head at all. Or maybe a little bit. No, they were potentially really good at both of those things. There is plenty of conjecture about the film's authenticity. They wouldn't have been amateurs if they were really good at it. No, no, they, well, okay. Most they were so humble. They were just humble.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It was a different time. So there's plenty of conjecture about the film's authenticity. And even Patterson and Gimlin's stories of what happened that day have had doubt cast around them, right? Some say that they, well, I mean, if they think the movie's made up, I guess they would assume the whole story is made up, to be honest. But here's how the story goes. On Friday the 20th of October, Patterson and Gimlin were searching for Bigfoot on horseback around Bluff Creek.
Starting point is 00:36:09 When they rounded a corner, they saw the hairy figure, later known as Patty. That's what the beast in that film is now. Nicknamed Patty. Nicknamed Patty, yeah. I don't know if it's after him or not. Maybe it's because of the Pattinson, Gimland film. I should have probably looked that up. Anyway, so they saw Patty.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Patterson dismounted and runs towards the beast before pulling out a video camera he's hired for obviously for this purpose they were looking for it. And he shot the famous footage. At first it's a bit shaky, but then he sort of stabilises. And the middle section of the film is the clearest, which is also includes the most famous shot in all Bigfoot history. It's the one you'd probably picture if you're imagining Bigfoot,
Starting point is 00:36:53 unless you're thinking Harry and the Hendersons with John Lithgow was the father of their. Henderson's. That's two. My God, he's in every film. Two Lithgow's in two weeks. He is a talented and versatile man. He certainly is.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I'm seeing double Lithgow. Four Lithgow. So this famous part of the film is, you know, it's pretty stable and the beast sort of turns his head or her head, sorry, to look at the camera. And flips the bird. Flips the bird. And then roller blades are. Roller blades.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, it's real sick. Eat shit, suckers. That's a flip. It's fucking cool, man. So that frame is frame 352. That's the famous frame. Oh, the one where it's eye contact is? Yeah, it's turned its head and it's looking at the camera.
Starting point is 00:37:38 On YouTube, which I watched it and then I read some of the comments for, I reckon maybe 45 minutes, which is what some people would argue is a great way to spend your time. Me included. So some of the people who are arguing in the comments about this frame, some saying that the look proves it's real, saying stuff like, if you're a man in a suit, why would you look towards the camera? It's ridiculous, right?
Starting point is 00:38:03 But if you didn't want people to think you're a man in the suit, you would look at the camera. I assume people counted with that. Yeah, I think, yeah, people counted with all sorts. Like, some arguments were like, yeah, fair enough. And some arguments are like, what are you talking about? It's a double bluff. And they're like, no, it's a quadruple bluff.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Four, crusty. So I reckon there's probably a few, different reason. Personally, when people were saying that, my thoughts were like, you know, maybe that look was just to see if the camera was rolling because it was the 20th take and like, is we doing this again? You know what I mean? So if it was a fake, then it's unlikely that was the first take.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, like professional actors accidentally look at the camera all the time and they have to reshoot a scene and they're professionals. Yeah, it's like, yeah, sometimes you clock the camera, no doubt. Jess, I saw you do that one time. Yeah, I was going to, yeah, I do it all the time. Accidentally. Well, why do you always wink then when you do it? It's an accident.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I'm naturally charming. Naturally winking. Is Pickford winking at me? Is that rolling? Wink. So anyway, not long after the head turn, kept walking, disappeared out of you. The video is something like a minute. Did he say, hey, I'm walking here?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah. And how does it disappear out of view? Just out of frame? Because you can move a camera. Well, into sort of trees and stuff. Hmm. Behind stuff and then came out a little bit briefly and then went back away again. I never thought about this.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Is there any audio? On the video I saw there was. It was ominous music. Dun-dun! I get nothing for the chewy sound. Oh. No. Just going with the report.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That was very good chewy sound, Jess. Well done. Thank you. Can you do it again? No. No, go on. No, now I'm shy. She's winking again.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Following the sighting, the pair continued to track Patty until the terrain made it too difficult. Then they went back, got some plaster, Paris or whatever, made plaster casts of the footprints, which is still seen as being, you know, by a lot as great proof of the authenticity of it all. but there were some inconsistencies between their stories. I don't know. Did I mention that before? For instance, Patterson said the big foot was between six and a half and seven feet tall, whereas Gimlin said six foot flat, right?
Starting point is 00:40:39 And that doesn't sound like a lot, but that's half a foot to a full foot difference. In height, it's quite a big. That is quite a lot. But if someone's a long way away, say if there was an NBA basketball player, 15 metres away from me, I probably couldn't tell you how tall they are. And also super bulky. Yeah. So yeah, I don't see that as being necessarily...
Starting point is 00:40:55 No, I think that's really hard. Something other people say is like, Patterson, some people say, like skeptics say he's a known liar. He spent his whole life lying, right? That's what some say. He also changed it so it was, I think later he was saying seven and a half feet. Like it grew in his memory as something. But that's also something that can happen.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Also, to go back to that YouTube comment thing again, if it was planned, wouldn't they agree, all right, It was 6-6, exactly. Exactly. That's an argument that believes counter with all the time. They say, if anything, it's proof that it is real. Yeah, because if it was all states, they'd be like, yeah, he was this color, exactly, blah, blah, and we had to return the costume by 4.30, otherwise we'd have to pay for two days.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Wait, shit. Forget that last bit. The timeline in the pair's story has also come under scrutiny with skeptics, with some saying the things they said happened on the day could not have possibly all fit into their timeline. It was a pretty jam-packed afternoon. They're like, and then we went back to the camp on horseback, and it was this far away, and then we went back and did the plasters. And then they sent off the film, and they're like, it doesn't add up.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It would have been very hard to happen. Some have looked into it, and the flight, they said they sent the film on. Though that day that they said it was, the planes were all grounded. Oh, okay, that's a bit dodged. That's what, but then others say it wouldn't have happened on that date. And there's some murky stuff around. So people, non-believers like it's definitely bullshit, but still so many people like definitely real, right?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Anyway, and there are plenty of naysays about the video, Jess, because you could argue what it is almost definitely bullshit, right? I wouldn't, but you could argue that. You could. But that's boring to me. I think it's boring to hear what the skeptics talk about. So one thing they do say that makes sense to me is that if it is real, there's got to be plenty of them around to breed and go on and that sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:54 So if that's the case, why hasn't anyone ever found a big foot body or bones or anything, right? And one argument I've just come up with now is that they're immortal. They live forever. Oh, that would make sense. You never found dead body. Or they all spontaneously combust. Yes. My favorite.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Of death. Exactly. So there are definitely reasons why this would be. Or that they're super intelligent and over the years have figured. out ways of evading us and they've got, you know, their own system to dispose of each other's bodies. Or maybe... Mole people.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Exactly. Could be FBI. There could be an agency covering. You know, there are, there's lots of possibilities. But anyway, the naysayers are kind of party poopers, right? So that's boring. Let's hear from some of the yay sayers. One thing about the video that keeps many believes excited is the way Patty moves.
Starting point is 00:43:45 They love the way she moves. Do you know? moonwalk? No, no, it's all forward earth walking. So they didn't create the moonwalk before Michael Jackson. No, someone did though, didn't they? Who did that? Yeah, I think of.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Bowie. Bowie, I don't. Okay. Believers say that the walk is unlike any human would or even could walk, right? According to an article published for the Oregon Public Broadcaster, the professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University, Spuds Club, Jeffrey Meldrum. Go, Spudgeon.
Starting point is 00:44:18 is one of the few academics to openly study Sat-Squatch. And he is a believer saying, this is a quote, it's all so easy to say, obviously that's a man in a fur suit until you see it up against a man in a fur suit. And you go, that's a man in a fur suit. That can't be a man in a fan suit. And is he saying that whilst he's wearing a fur suit?
Starting point is 00:44:42 He's just got a fetish. Just for credibility? Yeah. Yeah, he's sort of photoshopping himself in. Look, this is a man in a fur suit. He's like to jauntily walking next to Crocodile Dundee. That's not a man in a fur suit. This is a man in a fur suit.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Darren, put the song on. Foo! Just prancing around in a fur suit. And that's why I am the professor of Idaho. I'm the professor of Idaho. Self-described. Meldrum, to bolster his argument, he points to the movie Planet of the Apes. Which is men in first suits.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Yes. So Dave, I don't know if he picked that up. So as all academics do, have you ever seen the film Godzilla? He points to the film. I sort of get his, I get his logic here somewhat. He says, wait a minute. Statue of Liberty. That was our planet.
Starting point is 00:45:46 When Homer does that, man, it's so funny. Fuck, it's so many Simpsons. references. Oh, it's about the four crusty's. The first of the Planet of the Apes movies came out around the same time as the Patterson Gimman film, right? So you could argue that they could be compared in terms of, if you're saying they're both suits.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Okay. Technology-wise, yeah. Yeah. And the Planet of the Apes first movie in 1969 was nominated for the Oscar for Best Costume design. So was it the, you know, the cutting edge, big budget film. a lot of money into the costumes but it does like it
Starting point is 00:46:25 looks shitty his argument is this is what Hollywood's come up with pretty unbelievable things when compared to this that these rodeo clowns or whatever they were they weren't clowns but anyway not in that sense rodeo boxes boxes that's right
Starting point is 00:46:41 you know I'm over explaining something that is obviously clear already what his point was of the planet of the apes Meldrum suggests they look like big, hairy, Pillsbury, doughboys when compared to the Patterson Gimlin film, Ape, Patti, not Ape, Ape Man, not Ape Man, Bigfoot. Did Patterson and Gimlin, did they win the Academy Award for Best Picture over Pund of the Apes that year? That's something I did, oh.
Starting point is 00:47:07 For not Best Picture, Pardon me, Best Costume, they should have. They really should have. According to the article, he shows the Patterson Gimlin film to his students at university and ask them to critically analyze it. They start at the head and they can see the trapezius. They can see the deltoid, erector spine down the back, shoulder blades moving under the skin. The quads contract when they're supposed to contract. None of which ever show up in a cheap off-the-shelf costume.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's true. Can't see dem quads. Yeah, so all these, and it's a big, big, musily beast, right? So that's an interesting thing. Debate continues to rage on about the film Was it a hoax or just through dumb luck These two rodeo riders lucked in a costume That behaved in a more believable way
Starting point is 00:47:56 Than the high-tech Hollywood ones I mean that's possible But yeah I agree with you just Not by luck Yeah not by luck Like they just happen to go to a really good costume shop The other things some people say The way the film was shot
Starting point is 00:48:11 They're not sure how many frames per second and that affects how the movements work. So maybe it's just like all these things lined up to make it look like, which is starting to sound a bit like conspiracy theories on the other side. They're the kind of things people say about the moon landing video and stuff. But then if it's real,
Starting point is 00:48:31 are they just two of the luckiest, or the two luckiest Bigfoot hunters of all time who just happened to be there when one walked past? I mean, they were there in a place they believed that it was going to be. But so have thousands of. thousands of others and they were the only ones still 50 years later over 50 years later still the only ones who've got any sort of decent footage of it are they that lucky if if it's real that's what we have to believe and that they're immortal obviously because they don't
Starting point is 00:48:57 have never left a body behind um it feels like an argument similar to religion to me like those who want to believe in bigfoot will continue to do so no matter what the skeptics say um and then in the the way around, short of physical evidence or a personal siding, no one is, and none of the skeptics are going to budge either. I don't reckon it feels like that because there's been so many arguments both sides for so long, 50 plus years and they're still. Yeah, totally. And in both instances, my argument is, really?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. But really? Yeah, yeah. Is that your argument? Just when it comes to religion and Bigfoot. Can you represent me in court? But really? Oh, fuck, he is good.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Really? Oh, let her off. She's off. This guy is tedious. Not guilty. Really? No, Dave, shut up. Shut up now.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Your job here is done. A man named Bob Hieronymus came forward to claim that he was the man who wore the costume in the film. And his pass a lie detector test saying that he was the man in the suit, right? Really? Really? When did he come forward? He came out decades later. His story was that he, being involved in this fraud, he felt like he would have got in trouble right.
Starting point is 00:50:24 He was meant to get paid. Patterson never paid him, is how the story goes. I was meant to get a thousand bucks that day of work. So it was meant to be good money. He never collected the money and he stopped fighting for it. He stopped chasing it because he was like, it's blowing up. It's getting a lot of attention. I don't want to be associated with it because he was nervous that he was going to get in trouble for that.
Starting point is 00:50:42 So that was his reason for not coming out for a long time until a long time later. You wouldn't get in trouble though. No, I wouldn't have thought so. So it feels like he was at least very naive or that's just a story. It's possible that it is a man in a suit and this guy isn't that man as well, you know. Also, I read that Patterson also passed a lie detector test saying that it is all real. So wire detector tests aren't full proof. Oh, clearly.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Someone's lying. Yeah, they've contradicted each of them. Someone has to be like. Yeah, and I think we've known that for a long time. They're not allowed, like they're inadmissible or admissible in court. Admissible? I'm not sure. I think it's inadmissible, right?
Starting point is 00:51:26 I never hear of them being used in Australia. Yeah, I don't think, or America, I don't think they're seen as being consistently active enough. But they are a great plot point. Great plot point. Totally. And very fun. to watch.
Starting point is 00:51:42 The little needle go on a reality show or something. Love it. And they're like sweating. Yeah. Oh my God. Looking all tense. And the strap to like something that looks similar to the electric chair.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah. Of the two filmmakers, Patterson died of cancer only a few years after the film was made. Gimlin, on the other hand, still lives and maintains. Really? Oh my gosh. Really? That was legit. That's how good I am.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I convinced myself, I was surprised. And so he still maintains that the film is legit. Around 50 years after the film was shot, he was interviewed by Outside magazine, and he said that he wished he'd never went looking for the creature, saying that Bigfoot has ruined his life. Jesus. He sort of got pushed out of getting royalties from the film,
Starting point is 00:52:33 which apparently just made a lot of money. It collects royalties, which is insane. So why did he get pushed out of his? I don't have some sort of legal deal, but this was, I think, soon after it happened, I think he got squeezed out somehow, some sort of legal thing. Probably had about a good lawyer like you, but just couldn't quite get the job done. Yeah, you shouldn't give this guy any money. He felt like he was in a lose-lose situation, right?
Starting point is 00:53:01 Like either way, no matter what people thought they either thought he was a space cadet for believing in Bigfoot, or he was a liar. You know, like most people, apart from the true believers, everyone else thought he was sort of him negatively, one way or another right. Bit kooky. At the time, he said,
Starting point is 00:53:22 like way back he said, I can understand why they don't believe in it because I didn't believe in it either, but I saw one and I know what I saw and I know it wasn't a man in a suit. It couldn't have been. Imagine if he filmed. Actually, there is a scenario
Starting point is 00:53:39 I thought of this too. Where they both passed a lie detector test because he honestly thinks he's seeing a real man and that is a man in a suit. So they're both telling the truth. Yes. And some people have put that forward as a suggestion as well. Oh, we're not clever. No, no, you are.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I didn't think of that until I read someone say it. He was a prank. The Bob Hieronymus guy, I think he said he was organized to do it by Patterson. So in that case doesn't work, but it could be, if Hieronymus is full of shit Gimlin could have thought he saw it even though he didn't potentially That was a confusing
Starting point is 00:54:16 And of the two filmmakers One of them might have been in on it To prank their friend And then it blows up and you're like I just better keep my mouth shut There's also talk that Patterson was in it for money He knew he didn't have long left And he wanted to leave an income stream
Starting point is 00:54:30 For his partner God what I wouldn't think of that Out of all the things to do Yeah I mean just created a drug lab like breaking bad or something. Yeah, or just go to the casino. Yeah, don't, all right, what I'm going to do is create a 10-second film of Bigfoot,
Starting point is 00:54:45 and that will keep royalties in my family for the next 50 years. It's a real role of the does. That's a real role. That's a casino of life. And all I have to do is spend $1,000 to pay a man to dress up in a suit. And hire an expensive camera. Which I think, yeah, I think a company, he got a company to pay for all those things. I think it was a real, he's one of our classic charismatic, good talkers.
Starting point is 00:55:07 but kind of a swindler guy. A Perkins. A perkins. The Perkins archetype. Really? So that's, I mean, honestly, there's so many different paths I could have gone down. And even just in that story alone, it's so much that has been untouched there. But I've sort of thought I'd finish with a few little fun facts.
Starting point is 00:55:32 There's quite a few here, though. I will decide. Sorry, attempted fun facts. Facts at this stage. He's the first one. But are they really facts? Really? You know how I was talking earlier about Harry and the Hendersons,
Starting point is 00:55:46 which I remember watching when I was a kid? I'm going to need you to recap. I don't actually know Harry and the Hendersons. I played along. I don't know. So it was a film where they found a big foot as a comedy. And then he sort of lived as an adopted family member. Really?
Starting point is 00:56:03 You know, that sort of thing. This was a film. It kind of reminds me of been seen. Man. And yeah, I guess it's... Buddy. Without the abs. But anyway, there was sort of a spin-off sitcom with different actors that ran for a few seasons as well.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh. Yeah. So it was a big thing, Harry and the Hendersons. But this is what I... That's not the fun fact necessarily. What I thought was a fun fact. Do you know how in the Harry Potter episode we were giving shit to America for renaming some of the Harry Potter movies?
Starting point is 00:56:32 Oh, yeah. Well, in the UK, Harry and the Hendisons was released as Bigfoot. the Hendersons. I didn't think that the big foot on the poster would be enough for the UK audiences. Is that fun? Yeah. Leah, like the UK audiences
Starting point is 00:56:48 that see the poster and go, wow, that's a really hairy big man with large feet. I assume John Glith goes Harry and the others are the Hendersons. What's this? Is that their pet? Is this some sort of typo? But like in image form.
Starting point is 00:57:05 But it also makes it a really, It just sounds such like it becomes a real dumb name for a movie to me. Bigfoot and the Hendersons. It's like... Although... It sounds no good. It's a bit too obvious. I wouldn't have needed you to explain to me the concept behind it.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That's true. If you told me Bigfoot and the Hendersons, I would have been right there with you. You would only like moves in with John Lethke's family. Of course. And of course there'll be some sort of spin-off series for a few seasons with different actors. So that feels like on Justice scale, that is not quite a fun fact. Not quite. This next one maybe is in a similar boat
Starting point is 00:57:40 But I thought I'm thinking back to Mothman I'm like there's got to be some festivals Right and it turns out there are so many Bigfoot festivals in America Really? So many right That was a genuine one again
Starting point is 00:57:53 I found a listicle that named the top five Fuck I love listicle Wow there's a top five Yeah and the number one they listed Was the Honobia Bigfoot Festival which takes place on a Christian mission in Honobia, Oklahoma. Events there include helicopter rides. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Bigfoot rides. Yeah, no, this is like, there's a couple of things that are just like put Bigfoot at the start of it. Is it helicopter so you can go and look for it? I guess that's got to be the angle, right? Bigfoot eating contest. Bigfoot rides. There's the Bigfoot 5K run. Bigfoot fashion parade.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Compare your foot size two big foot foot. Everything else. This is in normal, you know, normal spelling, normal caps, normal lowercase, right? But then one is, kids zone, all caps. Is it kids with a Z? No. Damn it. Is it Zone with a Z?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yes. Oh, that's pretty rad. They also advertise that they've got a face painter named Faces by Wendy. That's pretty on theme. And a street performer called Hillbilly Willie. Hillbilly Willie. Well, I'm Hillbill. It just seems like there's not all that much
Starting point is 00:59:14 Bigfoot stuff going on. There is an artwork contest, though. It's called the Bigfoot artwork contest. So I guess, and it says you could do anything, it could be. Oh, so it doesn't have to be Bigfoot related. I think it might have to be, but it could be a painting or a sculpture or whatever. Photograph. It cost you five bucks to enter.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I've already made the fucking art, mate. Thanks for letting me know. You were looking like you're looking like you're. we're ready to go. Oh, you don't have five bucks a spare on this. I'm the artsy one after all. This also confused me, but this could be just a type.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I'm not really worthy of our time on this podcast. But now it goes, movie Saturday night at 6pm. And then confusingly, it says, festival is over at 5pm each day. So I don't know quite how that works. Has the organiser just scheduled a movie night for himself and accidentally put it in that calendar?
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yes. I think that. My wife and I will be watching a movie. You are not invited. That's just at our home. But I just don't want to forget to rent home alone too. I've got to get a blockbust from my way home. It's Harry in the Henderson's for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:20 All of that. Surely there's a fun fact in there somewhere. I think the fact that it costs five bucks to enter the archer was the fun thing. Well, I'm very confused by what incorporates. I thought helicopter rides was fun. Just the fact that there's a festival is fun. Yes. Why did you just blank?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I was said Incorporated. but that's not the word I meant. Anyway, hillbilly-willie. It was what I thought made that fun. Yes. And then finally, this is another listicle, because I know you love listicles. Love them.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I love the word, the listicle. Because you bloody love Portman Toes. Oh, I love them. I love them. They're so fun. So this listicle was on The Week.com, and it's called 11 crazy bigfoot conspiracy theories, and they're all great.
Starting point is 01:01:09 11 is an annoying number. I won't go through them all One of them is irrelevant Just read 10 They can't all be good Sorry let's say 10 Thank you Great
Starting point is 01:01:19 Now I'm back on board This is a DNA test Prove that Bigfoot is part human A hybrid right And this was This study was done By Texas veterinarian Melba S.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Ketchum Okay Claims This is something that no one has Officially done but apparently claims to have Sasquatch DNA somehow and reckons it includes human DNA. Okay, so is there just some weird cult out there fucking bears?
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yes. Because what's the other half? Apparently she went on to insist that they're an indigenous people and immediately should have protection of their human and constitutional rights. And the right to bear arms? Yes. That's what you meant. We should give them weapons.
Starting point is 01:02:10 We should give them the right to call a lawyer and one family member. And remain silent. Anything they say. Any grunt they make. And will be used as evidence. This one's full on. Apparently there's a conspiracy that the government secretly removed burnt Sasquatch corpses from Mount St. Helens after the 1980 eruption. So apparently Mount St. Helens was already known as a real hotspot for eight men's
Starting point is 01:02:40 sightings. Sorry, I'm doing jazz hands. Since the 20s. And apparently there were a few eyewitnesses who reported seeing federal helicopters carrying off the charred remains of several Sasquatches from the area. Several. Wow. Chard remains.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Yeah. Doesn't that make it sound like it could be, the fact that their charred remains makes it tricky flying in a helicopter. You're like going on up. From a distance. I can tell what that is. foot charred remains from anywhere. I was imagine that they were in like a net flown below.
Starting point is 01:03:17 That doesn't make sense. Especially when you're trying to take them away, why would you be doing that? They're in it, they were hanging below in a display case. Yeah, imagine if you're on a big skyrider following him saying charred remains of ape men. Don't tell anyone. Imagine if you're on a at a big foot festival and you did the helicopter ride and you looked down and the helicopter you were in was carrying around the charred remains. Look, I found one.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I will crash this helicopter. That will kill us all. That's how much I want to protect this secret, even though I run the Bigfoot Festival. Oh.
Starting point is 01:03:55 To throw them off the scent. Interesting. People in the YouTube comments will say, well, the Bigfoot Festival founder would never found a Bigfoot festival if they didn't exist, but they did exist. Am I right? Okay. I'm lost.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Thumbs up if you agree. There's another one here. in 1973, Pennsylvania UFO researcher Stan Gordon said he noticed an increase in sightings of Sasquatches entering and exiting extraterrestrial vessels.
Starting point is 01:04:26 He believes that they're actually aliens. Okay. Okay, well, he is probably inclined to say that about nearly everything. This burger's an alien. Okay, all right. Yeah, no, very good. Washing the sheets, that's an alien concept to me.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I'll lie in my filth. My human filth. Do a DNA test, do one. I'm part human. I mean, all human. Oh, no. Just a couple more quick ones. I won't even do ten.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Saskatches appear in the Bible. What? A few modern creationists have argued that the giants briefly mentioned in the book of Genesis were actually early big feet. Giants. They've written big feet. Maybe it is big feet. Nah, big foots.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Big foots. Definitely sounds smarter. Yeah. I don't remember they're being giants in the Bible, but, I mean, I've never read it cover to cover. You've got to read Genesis. You'll love the bit where they briefly mention giants. Oh. And is this one, a good one to finish on, Sasquatches occasionally sodomize domestic cows.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So says a local farmer. Whose cows are acting suspicious. And definitely doesn't want to cop the blame himself. I definitely didn't fuck those cows. It was a Sasquatch. I didn't know this, but it says in this listicle, which I obviously can always believe with schools. Is it the top 10 things Bigfoot fuck?
Starting point is 01:06:01 It says animal and animal beastialities is far from uncommon. And apparently according to more than a few farmers, they've witnessed male big feet, which they say here explicitly is the plural of Bigfoot. So I've been, I mean, and I trust a listicle more than, with my life. More than a few farmers have claimed to have seen male Big Feet getting intimate with some unfortunate bovine. I like how they're phrased that.
Starting point is 01:06:29 This is a very funny listicle. Of course the farmers. Of course the farmer's sober. Gets pretty lonely out there. That wasn't, did you see a big hairy male fucking a cow? Yeah, I saw it too. It was not me. Me, even though I was wearing my overalls.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Which is another thing, big feet, often wear my overalls. I want something done about it. I must have left them in the barn. They just helped themselves. Those dirty big feet? You mean those overalls that are just over there in the corner in your washing basket there? No, no, other ones. I have multiple overalls.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, I see. So you want to end up? on that one. Should I? Really? I don't know. I do not have to. I reckon you're not going to get a better one than farmers banging a cow.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Well, this is the other one. This is one that we sort of mentioned earlier. Saskatches bury their dead. So that's one theory cryptozoologists have come up with. But if they bury their dead, that means they understand the concept of digging, thus tunneling. That makes so. much sense. Maybe they thought it was digging his own grave.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And they're like, oh, well, this is convenient. Let him continue. We're going to kill him in a minute anyway. Yeah, it's perfect. Unless what, unless they call their dicks, they're dead. And when they talk about burying them, they're talking about in cows. Yeah, I think that's it. There's a question, Matt, for you in the future, edit that out or not.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You won't. I reckon you will. So should we thank the people who have kindly suggested this topic? Yes. We had Daniel A. Mateer. Thank you, Daniel. Aim at where? A mate here.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Okay. Whatever you say, Daniel. Thank you, Daniel. Good job, Daniel. We also had Tony Martinez. Ah, Tony Martinez. Or Tony Martinez. Thank you, Tony.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Thank you, Tony, and thank you, Daniel. And also, Odin McCarthy. Thank you, Odin. Okay, a shrubmaster 27. Shrubmaster. That's a good AKA. That's I like it. That's his Twitter.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Michael Sultenberger and Lennert Stales. Great names. I'd also like to thank Elizabeth King. Emily Knutzen. Sorry about the pronunciation. I fucked that up last. I reckon it. And Sarah Clow.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Wow, it's a popular topic. I didn't even realize how many people had suggested it. That might be one of the most suggested ones we've had. That's heaps. Also, Marcus Gallagher actually, suggested the Patterson Gimlin film in particular. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Well, we did a big part there so we can thank you also for suggesting that. Is that, that's everyone? Yeah, that's everyone. Awesome. Well, thanks so much, guys, for suggesting the topics. Yeah, we appreciate that. Listeners suggesting topics. And you can do so at any time.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Remember, there is a little link in the description of this episode that takes you to a little form we can fill out and suggest a topic and also tell us why you think it's interesting. They're always really fun to read. Yes. Some people take it very seriously. Some people make a joke.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Both fine by me. Yeah, I like it too. The, um, this was also voted on in our golden hat for Patreon. Oh, thank you to those people that voted for it. Was it a landslide? I think it was something like 60% so a relatively solid majority. Um, yes. But just thinking about Patreon, it would be great to thank some of our Patreon supporters now.
Starting point is 01:10:10 That is a fantastic idea. Yes, that's right. And so thank everyone in general that supports the show at patreon.com slash do go on pod in exchange for your love and support. We'll give you love and bonus episodes, shoutouts, access to tickets and all sorts of extra posts. We really appreciate everyone that does so. And let's thank a few now. Can I thank someone?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Okay. That'd be so nice. Can I thank a legend? Should we give them an alternate Bigfoot name? So how they were swamp cabbage man? No, you're right. Stupid idea. No, no, I was just trying to compute it.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I like it. Can you just do the first example and then I'll jump in? Yep. Okay. I'd like to thank a legend from Adelaide where Matt has just been and where you had such a good time that we've decided we'll probably go there for a podcast sometime in the near future. Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting back there.
Starting point is 01:11:00 And I'd like to thank and hopefully we'll see when we do the show, Timothy Poulton. Shrubbery Beast. Timothy Poulton, the shrubbery beast. Strawberry beast. Love it. Ah, shrubbery! Who would win in a fight between the shrubbery master and the shrubbery beast?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Ooh. Beasts. It feels like the master. Oh, interesting. The master controls the beast. Oh. Sorry, Tim, you lost out there. And I'd also like to thank from Manchester in the UK, Nicole Carr.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Oh, Matt, have a go. To be honest, I missed what you said at the start. I was trying to piece it together. So it's something to do with plants and monsters. It's just a different... It could be anything. Another name for like a Yeti. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Say it again. I'll just say what comes to me. Okay. From Manchester in the UK. It's Nicole Carr. Tractor monkey. That's an old ABC TV show in Australia. Well, she won't know.
Starting point is 01:11:58 That should think that's very interesting. Tractor monkey. I like it. And I imagine that's probably a phrase, if that's why they call the show that. All it is on Wikipedia is a TV show. Okay. Could just be a TV show. But there you go, Nicole Carl, the tractor monkey of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:12:13 May I thank some people? Please. Okay. I would like to thank from Dundee in Scotland. Ooh, good. Okay. Scott McFarlane. Scott McFarlane.
Starting point is 01:12:25 The broccoli bin boy. Broccoli bin boy. Where did broccoli come from, Dave? Cabbage. Yes. Broccoli bin boy. Yeah, I'm with you. Well done.
Starting point is 01:12:37 So thank you, Scott. Broccoli bin boy, B, B, B. Oh, that's good. The triple B. I love all the iteration. That sounds much better than broccoli bin boy. Triple B. Don't let anyone know what it stands for.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Well, you triple B mine. That's what he says on Valentine's Day. Cute. To his love interest. Or future love interest. That's cute. Depending on where he is in his story arc. And I'd also like to think from my favorite city in the entire world.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Where's it going to be? We've spoken about this so many times. You guys never listen to me. I imagine you'd live in the place that's your favorite. Otherwise, why wouldn't you move to the other place? It's Paris. Because our podcast is in Melbourne. Do you want me to move to Dublin?
Starting point is 01:13:17 Oh, Dublin's a very nice city. It's my favorite place. And I would like to thank Jenny Lavelle. Holy moly. Good name, hey. Jenny Lavelle. I know. Can I have a go at this one?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yes. Bell bottom dollar. Bell bottom dollar. Wow. Bet your bottom dollar? You are an Annie fan. Tomorrow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Bell bottoms, jeans, dollar, money, that doesn't quite work, does it? No, there's no wrong answer here, that's fine. Jenny can be the bell bottom dollar. What about the... Try bell bottom something else. Maybe go B again, so it's BBV. Okay, the bell bottomed bull.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Bell bottom bull. Oh, that's good. So you like it. Picture that, it's a bull. We're wearing jeans. We're wearing like old disco pants. Great. On how many legs, two or four?
Starting point is 01:14:15 Two. Oh, back legs, front legs. Back legs. I'd be weird. It was just the front legs, wouldn't it? Yeah, they walk up because, yeah, everyone, that's an old meme thing that went around. Which would you do? You definitely just back legs.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Back legs. Back legs. Shirt on the top legs. Well. Top legs. You know how fucking animals work. Drongos. All right, can I thank a couple?
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yes. And please don't let me do the things because I'm. All right. I reckon I want this one from Dave, and I really would love just to take it home tonight. Okay. All right. You seem like you've got a talent for this.
Starting point is 01:14:51 That's not true at all. From one of my favorite suburbs of Melbourne. Dublin? I'd love to think. From Sunshine North. Oh. I hate Sunshine West. But North, you're back in the zone.
Starting point is 01:15:03 You know, I'm a big West fan. And Sunshine. What a name for a town. Yeah. Love it. From Sunshine. North, I'd love to thank, love to thank and thank in equal measure, Sam Abella. Sam Abella, the crab diver.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Ooh, just a normal sort of job. Oh, yeah. Or he's a crab. He's a crab man. Crab man diver. Snorkeler, like he's got a snorkel in. Yeah. Wow, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Crabbs need snorkels? This one does. So he's basically saying it's a crab. It's a crab. It's a crab. When I say it, I mean. our good friend Samabella. Like man-sized crab.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Oh man crab. Wouldn't you call it a man? Crabman. Crabman Diver. Crabman Diver. Diving Crabbman daver. Sounds like a Ronnie James Dio song. Holy diver.
Starting point is 01:15:56 So that one. Yeah. What does he actually say? Is it Holy Diver? Holy Diver. Yeah, it was genuinely pretty close to that. I just changed. Craby Diver.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And I would also love to thank from Wollongongong. It's a great city of Australia. Olivia Barnett. The woolly barn owl. Oh, spooky. Man. Oh. So it's a humanoid.
Starting point is 01:16:26 It again, when I say it, I mean Olivia. Yep. Our good friend. Olivia is a human-sized owl, but instead of feathers, wool. Yep. Wings, but man-law. legs. Can she fly? Yes. Oh, and the wool doesn't hinder?
Starting point is 01:16:43 Nah. But even if you get her wet. Can't fly. But the warmth stays in. Oh, yeah. Wool always keeps you warm. Really? Even if it's... Breeds really well. If it's wet. Even if it's wet. It's good survival material.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Oh, that's why sheep wear it. Exactly. Hey, Dave, before we go, I'd really love to mention this one. I met so many cool people in Adelaide, and it's almost doing this service to them to not mention them all. But I had this, I had a great time. one of them was called loose Luke because he was clearly very not loose at all. A classic ironic nickname. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And his friend who was very loose, he was, he had a couple of... Was his name nerdy Nick? His name was Jack, but his nickname was Fritzel. I didn't get to the bottom of that. Okay, you know, one fritzel and I don't want to... He said something nice about Jess, like Jess is great. And then he goes, but what about Dave? that bloody Nazi synthesizer.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Heil Hitler. Man, we laughed for so long. A big shout out to all our friends in Adelaide. Thank you so much for tuning in there. And thanks for everyone for tuning in everywhere throughout the world. We'll be back next week with another brand new episode But until then we'll say thanks for listening And I will say goodbye
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