Two In The Think Tank - 125 - The Legend of Bigfoot

Episode Date: March 14, 2018

Matt talks about a few of the most famous bigfoot tales, including how the creature got its name and the controversial Patterson-Gimlin Film... whether you're a believer or not, it's interesting stuff...!- Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod- Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:http://www.times-standard.com/general-news/20170426/throwback-thursday-if-the-shoe-fits-its-bigfootshttp://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/079790.htmlhttp://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/finding-bigfoot/lists/10-jacko-the-ape-man/http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/10/17/bigfoot-reportedly-sighted-in-northern-california-pictures-go-viral.htmlhttps://gizmodo.com/the-bigfoot-lawsuit-against-california-actually-makes-s-1823082037https://www.csicop.org/si/show/bigfoot_at_50_evaluating_a_half-century_of_bigfoot_evidencehttps://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/if-bigfoot-were-real/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfMDZ2IifIhttp://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/05/the-origin-of-the-bigfoot-legend/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_and_the_Hendersonshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yetihttps://www.atlasobscura.com/places/boggy-creek-monsterhttp://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/finding-bigfoot/lists/5-new-smyrna-beach-fla-2011-skunk-ape-harrumphs-at-fishermen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Jess and Dave, just jumping in really quickly at the top here to make sure that you are across all the details for our upcoming Christmas show. That's right, we are doing a live show in Melbourne Saturday December the 2nd, 2023, our final podcast of the year, our Christmas special. It's downstairs at Morris House, which usually be called the European beer cafe. On Saturday December the 2nd, 2023 at 4.30pm, come along, come one, come all, and get tickets at dogoonpod.com. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now.
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Starting point is 00:02:16 It's my favorite thing to do. I do it every week. I just do it quietly. I'm hearing double for crusties. Yes. And I noticed someone left an iTunes review it on this recently, which we appreciate if anyone ever does that. And it was like, I'm comes with a free Simpsons reference
Starting point is 00:02:32 every episode. So there we go, our contractual obligation. Very early on there. Very early, just nailing it, getting shit done. All right. All right. All right. The question this week, Dave, and just to explain to people who don't know what's the question
Starting point is 00:02:47 about again? Well, somehow, I don't know if we've ever explained this, but the first episode we ever did was on the Mona Lisa, and to get onto the topic, I decided to ask a question, and then 124 weeks later, we have just kept that tradition up. Okay, Matt, just wanted you to say we asked a question. You didn't have to put it in a break. There about how it was your idea. I bet it was my idea,
Starting point is 00:03:08 but I believe it was whoever's report was number two just to continue the tradition. So Matt's idea. Oh, I'm really flipped that on me. Yeah, now I'm not mad. Yeah. Let's put your price for all of us. Good idea, Matt.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay. Can I have some? There's plenty of price for two of us. Fair enough. That would have been better if I'd said plenty instead of printing. Matt, okay. Can I have some? There's plenty of praise for two of us. Fair enough. That would have been better if I'd said plenty instead of printing. So, pretty much. And Matt's written a report on a topic. Just and I don't know what it is about. It's been suggested by listener I assume.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yes, it has. I'm just from, yes. Just remembering I've got to look that up. All right. The question is this week, Dave and Jess. Hands on buzzers. Okay. Oh, names of buzzers. Which creature is known for? Black Lagoon. That's a, that's not a creature. That's a lagoon. So, let's say which, no, sorry, my buzzer is black, lagoon. Okay. And so your answer is... Sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's a weird... Which creature? Batman. Finally enough, my buzzer's... Going with the wind. Jess and then your answer. Was that you buzzing in or testing your buzzer? My mom was also a tester, please don't.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah, my mom is a tester, both tests. Alright, new rule, let me get the question out before you buzz in. Interesting. Well, you should turn the buzzers off before the question finishes. Well, hands-off buzzers again. And then put them on when I finish the question. Okay, you tell us when me get the question out before your buzz. Interesting. Well, you should turn the buzzes off before the question finishes. Well, hands off buzzes again. And then put them on when I finish the question. OK, you tell us when you finish the question.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You finish the question with hands on buzzes. Black Lagoon, sorry me again. Sorry. Come again. Take your fucking hand off the buzzer. Question is, which creature is known for the size of one of their body parts more than any other? Ah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 What are you thinking? Black Lagoon. Is it a... the size of one of their body parts more than any other. You're thinking. Black Lagoon. Is it a is a foul up? Oh, good, very good. Try and horse pee. Also, it's been in the hat. It has. And we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Some reason. I think that was your guess map for one of my topics. Heart, the size of foul up. No, very good guess, though. Jess, so sorry, it's known more for the size of its body part. It's an awfully written question. Rather than it being a thing. Yes. Okay. I don't understand your question as much as I don't understand my question.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Is it, so it's about elephant tusks. Okay, no, it's a particular kind of creature. Okay. And it is known for having a large body part. And, and blacklegoon, I can't help but feel you just restated the exact same question, but more slowly and somehow thinking that we'd understand. Yeah, you emphasized different parts of the series.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I don't worry about it. I'll rephrase the question. I'll put a clue in there. It's whole name is about how big this song is. Oh, that's a black looking. It's a big foot. Yes, it's a big foot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, thank God. Does the question make sense now? Yeah, yeah. Still not really. Sorry, everybody. It's every I want at home. I've never really thought about, does it have big feet? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But like, abnormally big feet or something that, I actually don't know what big foot is, is a gorilla mat. Well, you're gonna tell us. Well, I hope. Fuck, that's a big task of task. Yeah, I want solid evidence in this reward. I want to be convinced.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's interesting because there's so much, I was thinking it was gonna be like the Moth Man, like there was one origin story and it sort of came out from there, but this is something that goes back centuries as there's legends of, anyway, let's do the report. The Big Foot. What is Big Foot?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Is what I've written here? Big Foot is a big hairy humanoid creature who was thought by some to inhabit wilderness areas in North America, especially, and especially the Pacific Northwest. While the term Bigfoot was first recorded in the 1950s, there had been stories of similar creatures prior to this for centuries.
Starting point is 00:07:03 According to an article on todayoffoundout.com, by Emily Upton, stories of a wild man existed among the Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest long before white colonists moved in. Versions of Bigfoot range from a harmless giant who saw fish from fishermen's nests and nets. To cannibalistic monsters living on mountain peaks. These stories varied from tribe to tribe, and even from family to family, which meant the Bigfoot had a lot of different names.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Only in, well, obviously since the 50s has the Bigfoot names sort of taken over, especially in North America as the... My family's name is Big Pen. Yes. Various family of family, of course. Yes, still, also, no hard evidence of that existing. A lot of hard evidence in big pain. Oh god that's awful. Awfully good. Awfully hard.
Starting point is 00:07:58 The most common names now though are relatively modern, big foot obviously from the 50s and Sasquatch, which is, is actually, it comes from a much older word, it comes from the Native American, Helke Melim word Sasquets pronunciation. Sasquatch is a cool band. Yeah, I think it's quite an old name, but Sasquatch was sort of like taken from that in the 20s. Sasquatch is a cool band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Right, big band, I've seen them before, they're pretty good in Melbourne band. We've seen Sasquatch get. Yes, Sasquatch get. And like the rockets, you know. Yeah. The Sasquatch. That's cool. That is cool.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Sasquatch are also. Let's do it. Okay. No, I agree. Let's start a band again. Again, we do it last week. Yeah, well we started a band and then I assume when you said again, then we must have broken up somewhere in there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 We were looking for a drummer. Oh, that's right. And I can put it if we got that owl from two and a thing we tank. Oh, yeah, he tweeted that. Oh, he tweeted that. That's why he tweeted that. Yeah. He's like, I played the drums.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I thought it's just a brag. Yeah, I thought he was a band. No, I was because we were looking for a drummer. I thought it was being totes random, but. No, I had so owl. So, all right, according to because we were looking for a drummer. I thought it was being Toe's random, but... No, it hurts so out. So, alright, according to this article, Bigfoot is described by Believer's as being between 6 and 8 feet tall, with a large forehead and pronounced brow, like a caveman. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Wait, 6 and 8 foot. Mate, you're over 6 foot. No, I'm even 6 even. Come on, mate. To haven't you. I don't know. I haven't measured myself in a while while don't point fingers like that. So he's got a big forehead but he's called big foot. Yeah no,
Starting point is 00:09:31 bit rough right. And a rounded, crested head like a gorillas. He is covered in brown or red hair and has enormous feet. That is his namesake with the biggest estimation at a whopping two feet long by eight inches wide. That's his feet. Yeah. His feet are two feet, which I also have two feet. He's seen double here, four feet.
Starting point is 00:09:57 There are legends of similar creatures all around the world. For instance, you guys might have heard of the Yeti or a bomb-on-able snowman of Nepal. Yes, we just can't say. But how do you say, Jim? I just have to imagine a bomb inside a ball. Bomminable. Yeah, someone, anyway. A Bomminable. Good tip. Very deliberate, but it still works. Apparently it's known as the Bomminable Snowman due to a poor translation of word, motto, kangme, which would have more accurately translated as man-bear snowman, which I love way more.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I like it. Man, two man in it. Man-bear snowman. I love how it's bookended by man. Yeah, that's good stuff. Do you think, I just had this thought, what do you think about a new game for kids? It's not duck duck goose, It's man-best snowman. So if you get called a man, but for the second time you're it. I guess so. Man, I only said man once, so
Starting point is 00:10:53 still. There's also the straight. Yeah, it's a confusing game, which is what I like about it. There's also the almas of Central Asia, which I hadn't heard of before, or the Chichanya of Siberia, the mapenguery of South America apologies for all these pronunciations, and the Yahwis and Yahuz of Australia. I forgot about Yahwis. To our overseas listeners that are probably not aware of Yahwipower, which was for a while they had a sort of kind of surprise knockoff type thing where it was a Yeah we yeah chocolate yeah we and inside was it a toy you build much like a kind of kind of surprise. Yep
Starting point is 00:11:32 man, I love those I was really more of a kind of surprise girl really. Oh well. I'm a yeah we Yeah, we boy. Yeah, I mean, I we boy and the only yahoo I know of is yahu series. Yeah and dot com Great point. Yes, and dot com. Great point, yes. It was, I think it's an old, that was used as a, and maybe it comes from this way, like these bloody Yahoo's, if you're talking about if some people are a bit, you know, rowdy or something.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Check out these Yahoo's. Check out these Yahoo's. Not never heard of. Not. I'm starting that. Okay. Your bloody Yahoo's. So there are these legends all around the world, right?
Starting point is 00:12:05 The only continent, apparently, that doesn't have one, is Antarctica. Aw. Yeah, I know a bit right. So because no people live there to make something up? Or to have seen it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Stand.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Well, I stand by what I said. It's just... I really hope... I don't know if... I hope it happens organically, but I really hope at least one of you is right on board with these guys being real. Because I am.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Anyway, spoilers. Of course I am. Yeah, I know, that was almost ridiculous, of course, I real. What is stupid thing to say? You're doing a report on a real thing. Yeah, no, that's, I'm not gonna sit here and talk about something that's made up. Would I waste everyone's time a waste of time that would be never done that before this is actually this is Math man, I think this might be the our third in the trilogy of crypto zoology reports recap for us
Starting point is 00:12:59 Math man Loch Ness monster This this current one we're doing now, the big fort. What about the U-Ladz? There are crypto boys. Crypto boyology, yeah. So the Pacific Northwest and North California in particular, I really wanted to say North Carolina, I guess, because I keep talking about those fucking Michael Jald and shorts. I like the Jald.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So apparently that's, they're the most specific areas where known as big foot hotspots in North America. They do have others and other myths across North America as well, with some great names, like the Ohio Grass Man. Oh, no. That's gotta be officially our favorite. I mean, don't call it too early. I was gonna say, this is like the Gary Gary Man.
Starting point is 00:13:53 You haven't called it early. So the Ohio Grass Man's said to roam Grasslands north of Akron. Selling pot. Yeah. I mean, how tall is the grass gonna be for him to hide? Yeah, no, that's the wild thing about it, right? Surely everyone else is in the snow or in the forest
Starting point is 00:14:10 or whatever, or something. What about this one? Momo the monster. Yeah, come on, Dave, you called it way too early. Grass and hamster. A hairy beast with a pumpkin-shaped head from Missouri. Well, I love the pumpkin-shaped head. Momo's cute, though. Momo the monster. Momma was cute. Yeah. Momma the monster sounds like an
Starting point is 00:14:26 entertainer. Yeah. A kid still scared of him. Sesame Street is on Sesame Street. I really do think this is my favorite although I do agree with Dave. Probably a podcast official one would be the Ohio grass man. I think my unofficial favorite named book Bigfoot type beast is Florida's skunk ape. What is he, a skunk or an ape? Also known as stink ape and swamp cabbage man. Swamp cabbage man. Why? According to...
Starting point is 00:15:01 Wait, is it swamp cabbage? Like, what's the grouping here? Are they separate words? Are they separate words? Or is it swamp cabbage, man? Oh, that's interesting. I read it. It was written in three different words.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I read it as, lives in the swamp, smells like cabbage, looks kind of like a man. Like a man, yeah. It's me, he's not a man who looks... Small hands, smells of cabbage. In my rating was, it's a man who eats the swamp, lives in a cabbage, smells like a man. Yeah. We'll never know. That's one of the big mysteries.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It's the man who's drank a lot of swamp. I, I, I did write a little bit down from animalplanet.com about the skunk. But apparently it gets, I mean, if it's on animalplanet.com about the skunkaper. Apparently, get some... I mean, if it's on animalplanet.com, it's gonna be real. Sure. Dave, you're convincing to believe it's... It's not called cryptomadeupshit.com, which by coincidences is also my new home page.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Also, apparently, according to that website, the name skunkaper comes from the creatures appalling smell One relatively recent sighting of the skunk ape occurred in May of 2011 Where a fishing guide and two of their clients were cruising along a mangrove swamp when they spotted something at first thinking it was your average animal like a feral hog all bear hog, old bear country. Your average feral hog swimming in the swamp. I don't worry about that there. That's just a fair, a fair, what a fair spec. I'm gonna take him out a couple of boats and my drink again.
Starting point is 00:16:38 My drink again. I've got a drink gun and non-trigger gun. The non-trigger gun shooting all the time, I'm talking about it. But as they got closer, they realized it was something else entirely, describing it as a wide, as describing it as wide as a side-by-side refrigerator freezer with a muscular torso, a zee-z-top top beard and a hairless forehead. The creatures stared at them for about 15 seconds and then made a guttural, herump or snort and walked away into the mangroves, according to the animal. At this stage, it's just sounding like, save Michael Eadies in the morning, you know? Just like not much hair on top, but a lot on the beard.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And one of the stars are the Kentucky Fried Chatton podcast. With a review, Kentucky Fried Chicken. Come check that, it's very funny. Nice short episodes, buts us. But if you don't want to eat calves, they apparently don't listen to it because you'll... Eat calves. Yeah, even though I don't know if they necessarily make it sound
Starting point is 00:18:04 or they're good. The most even though I don't know if they necessarily make it sound all that good. The most recent episode I saw in post today, they review Refresh the Tell It. Haven't heard that one. Another example is the Fook Monster. It's F-O-U-K-E. That's a Fuck Monster. A Fook Monster. It's a Fuck-A.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Also known as the Buggie Creek Monster. Buggie Creek. It's a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook, a Fook sightings occurred on May 2, 1971 at the home of Bobby and Elizabeth Ford. The Fords had only recently moved into the house and reported that the creature terrorized them, even reaching in through a window before being chased away by Bobby and his brother. This didn't deter it for long though as it returned later in that night. Bobby had a gun and he shot at the beast, believing that he got it. But a significant search occurred, and scratches and footprints were found, but a body nor blood never was. This sounds like a job for Scrooby-Doo. Ragee!
Starting point is 00:19:14 And the mystery machine, and it turns out that it was the owner of the amusement park all along. And it would have got away with a two if it wasn't for those pesky kids. If it wasn't for that gun you shot me with. Fuck. This story caught the attention of local media and many more recordings of sightings occurred over the next few years. And also many movies have been made about the creature, including 1972's The Legend of Boggy Crake. That sounds like a real box office hit.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And the follow-up 1985's Bogoggy Creek 2 and the legend continues. It was like 13 years later. Yeah, there was one in between, but this was the direct, like this was the sequel. How many Academy Awards did that win? Oh, countless. Countless. Wow. I do not count that.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But as of today, no definitive proof has been found. Sorry about that, everyone. Just dropped a drink bottle. Don't do that to me. I'm getting a little dry. What, you can start this episode again. But as of today, no definitive proof has been found of the Foucai monster. Fuck monster.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Sorry, the Foucai monster. Foucai monster. Sorry, the Foucai monster. Honestly. This topic isn't about the Buggie Creek monster though. All the Funk monster. The Funk monster is a very different thing. A Buggie Creek. All the Skunk Cape. It's about Bigfoot, right?
Starting point is 00:20:36 An entirely different. What's Bigfoot's favourite genre? A foreign film. Oh, a foreign film. Yeah. Is he Bollywood fan? Dockos. Loves a foreign language docko.
Starting point is 00:20:49 OK. So I'm going to tell you about a few of the most famous Bigfoot stories. The first date's back to the early part of the 20th century even before the term Bigfoot was even coined. This story is about a man named Albert Ostman and comes again from AnimalPlanet.com. These guys love the Bigfoot stories and I think again if it's on animalpland.com. It's an animal, is it on our planet? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Ticks both boxes. Two yeses. Two solid yeses. Such a cute little yes. Yes, it's too much solider. Such a cute little yes, like yes. All right, man. Osman was a lumberjack who was out camping in British Columbia in Canada in 1924. One night when he was tucked up in bed, sleeping in his tent, the next thing he knew, he was being carried away,
Starting point is 00:21:42 still in his sleeping bag by a family of big-foot. He was having a dream. A family. I'm sure. Do you call them big-feet? I was gonna say that must have been discussed before. I think it's big-futs that's got to be. It can't be big-feet. Like moose. Yeah. Or big moose. We can't be by big moose. Yes. It's much like a big moose. Big-futs, maybe. Yeah, big-futs moose. Big foods, maybe. Yeah, big foods could work. Big shoes. Well, that's, that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Thank you. There's no wrong answers here. Yeah, I know, I was about to block. And I thought, no, that's what Jess does. I'm an enabler. Mm-hmm. I will, I will ruin things by letting it happen. A very different thing indeed.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So, so the family big foot included a father big foot, a mother big foot, a daughter big foot, and a son big foot. Okay, he could tell the gender of them. Why, they won't, we're in clothes. So the girl ones had big eyelashes and were wearing skirts? Yes, just, they didn't have clothes on their eyes. Very easy to tell. I think if what you're saying is gender is fluid and it can't be determined by genitals, then yes, you're right. This is a very old school way of looking at it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So what you're saying there is they weren't wearing clothes so the girl ones had like breasts. Oh, look, I don't know. I haven't spoken to Ossmann personally. Why not? You're right. Right out of time. And he's long dead. The girl one had a pink bow in her hair. So it's like, oh, that's the daughter And the dad was wearing a tie and a bowl of hat. E-bowl a hat. That sounds Dangerous. What a bad ass. E-bowl
Starting point is 00:23:30 So he was slung over one of their shoulders. Osman was taken on a bit of a hike, which apparently took multiple hours before it was put down. Do you reckon you're yelling or do you just end up just just taking it? You're like, all right, whatever. It's amazing. Like, because they didn't wake him up until he was already on the journey. Like them getting into his tent, chucking him up on the shoulder, bouncein' along. And he'll have his sleep, though. So he wakes up mid-bounce. Mid-bounce. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I reckon my first thought would be, what is going on? My first thought would be, what I don't know what you would think of that. That is a great first thought. My first thought is, I've got to see these four animals genitals, so I can tell what gender they are
Starting point is 00:24:06 when I get back to tell. So I can assume they're gendered. And also that they're a family. Yeah. Can't they just all be friends of different ages and different bits and pieces? Absolutely. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:18 No, Matt, thank you. Other family didn't seem to want to hurt him. Sorry to say family, I'm just going along with this. No, that's fine, yeah, of course. Low to BS story. Obviously, everything else is definitely real, just not necessarily the fact that they're a family.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Anyway, the family didn't seem to want to hurt him, but apparently somehow made it clear that he wasn't allowed to leave. Apparently the family communicated with Grunts and Ostrman remained kidnapped for the next few days before he came up with an escape plan. This was his plan. It'll tunnel his way out. I'll never suspect that. It's just in the middle. They're watching you protect me.
Starting point is 00:25:01 They're huddled around him. I don't think these creatures have understood the mechanics of tunneling. They're huddled around him. I don't think these crutches of, uh, understand just to the mechanics of tunneling. They will know where I'm going. What's happening? He's very slowly disappearing into the earth. Why is he going down? How's he going down?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Some sort of elevator? Yeah, they know elevator. They're not digging holes. Fucking hell, man. I mean, I don't want to patch an ass, friends. I don't want to patronize friends. So his plan included involved, well it didn't include it entirely, this whole plan was getting Papa Bigfoot to consume an entire tin of snuff, which is some, like the only time I've ever seen snuff was at October fest where some of the German bigfoot
Starting point is 00:25:46 were put so adult male humans were putting it in that little nook in their hand. What do you look at that bit? Is that the nook? Yeah, it can be a nook snuff snuck. And then they just like snorted up. I think it maybe it's like tobacco or something. I'm not sure, but it has a similar hit to it. It's a back-up. Yeah, it's like a like an a little energy person anyway, so he He got the dad big foot to to have all the tin and he did which made him bend over in pain in Capacitating him allowing Ossman to escape What about the other three? I guess they were tending to the to the dad. There are a lot. They're a loving family Ever heard of one Jess actually now that I think about it're a lot they're loving family. Yeah. Ever heard of one Jess? Actually now that I think about it, the exact same
Starting point is 00:26:28 makeup as your family. Yeah. Where were you in 1924? Mama and a papa and a boy and a girl. Yeah, we're a perfect family. Thank you. That's not quite what I said. She didn't answer. She did very suspicious. Yeah, very slippery. Anyway, I'm with the reporter, I guess. It's not to get bogged down in details. So in time, he made it home. It took quite a while. Obviously he had to figure out where he was.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And obviously he pretty tired. He had no snuff to keep him going. When, how long do you reckon before you tell someone about this incident? Well, you'd be missing for a few days. So you'd probably have to explain your absence. Yeah, probably about 15 seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking of something similar. Jess Allen would have taken you. Um, I don't know. And I'm, I try to be quite polite and ask people
Starting point is 00:27:15 like say, hi, how are you? How's your day? Yes. I think in this case, I would skip that. Yeah. I reckon, yeah, under 15. I was just, you put it in an Instagram story. I think I think he I think he He might have made some small talk because it didn't tell anyone for about three decades Okay, all right and he and this was because I guess I guess Again, I didn't get a chance to call him up, but I'm guessing he was embarrassed about the story, thought people wouldn't believe him. And he only came forward when other stories started coming out in the 50s. This does remind me of the story of Loch Ness.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yes. When they didn't tell anyone for many, many years, and they seemed to remember that it was a sunny Sunday. Yes. Well, the details though could have been a log or a nut. Or a Monday. One of those three. One of those three.
Starting point is 00:28:14 The legend of Bigfoot didn't really hit the wider public's consciousness until the late 1950s, when a man named Gerald Crew discovered discovered a set of big footprints. Which was soon known as bigfoot footprints. An article about these footprints is legitimately where the name bigfoot originated from. According to an article, art carved online was titled, Giant Footprints Puzzle Residence Along Trinity River. Catchy Tartough. Got them in. I love it, punchy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It was written by Andrew Jenzoli. Big fan of his work. And I read it as quoted in the time standard. On August 27th, 1958, crew and his road construction crew. Crew and the crew found the footprints on the site where they were working in bluff Creek California. Bluff sounds a lot like snuff. Cool in Sedan. I think so.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Also a word for making things up. Yeah, that was what I thought I wanted to do. Bluff, I'm like, well clearly. Yeah, no, me too. We all thought the same joke. And I purposefully went a different way. Mark, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I was for the third or fourth option. Or even in this case, seventh or eighth.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. The footprints were found in Bullshitville right next to prank town. Ah, prank, which sounds a little bit like spank. Oh, seventh option there. Crew made plaster casts of the prints and took them into the Humboldt Times newspaper who went on to report on the discovery.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Attached to the article was a great photo of a serious looking Gerald crew holding one of the plaster casts. And I read somewhere that he was asked to smile by the photographer, but he refused saying that if he did, then someone would accuse me of trickery. Yeah. I switched from talking about him in the third person to the first person mid-sentence there. Sorry about that. Only tricksters smile. So is he like frowning in the photo?
Starting point is 00:30:22 He's just looking very earnest. He's going, errrr! He's doing sharkers. He's tongue out. Yeah. That'll take me seriously now. The beast's footprint measured 18 by 7 inches. And according to crew's measurements, had a 50 inch walking stride. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:30:41 What do you mean? I assume, between steps. Right. What's a step? Oh dear. So that's a 50 inch, what's that 1.25 meters? So that's a pretty big stride. I'm about 1.2. So I'm definitely not a big foot. Thank God. Got a pretty tight hamstring as well. Can't stride out. You got a stretch before that? Yeah, you got to.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And morning. Morning. Every 12 hours on the hour. According to Gen Zoli's article, the creature was a regular visitor to the area, saying the latest appearance of the huge thing, like that description, individual or animal occurred again sometime Wednesday night or early Thursday morning. The country is some of Humboldt's county's deepest wilderness where not a lot of natural secrets are known to the white man. This story kicked off big media attention locally before even being picked
Starting point is 00:31:42 up internationally and really, this was what where big foot mania began. Like, like, beetle mania? Yes. But before. Yeah. Beetles would just, I think they were forming around this time, at least three of them, maybe they were, they were like 50s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 There were stories that a man named Ray Wallace, a known trickster and brother of a worker on the site or a construction worker himself, depending on which article I'm quoting from, was responsible for the footprints. This was a story going around right. But apparently Wallace wasn't keen to talk about it. Report a reportedly telling a journalist named Bill Chambers that he didn't want to be made a laughing stock of. That does not sound like a very good prankster. Yeah, he doesn't know what that's what't want to be made a laughing stock of. That does not sound like a very good prankster. Yeah, it doesn't matter what, but that's what you want. It does not want a laughing stock. I don't want to elicit laughter.
Starting point is 00:32:31 In any way. I'm a very serious artist. You're in the wrong biz. Did you ever see anyone laugh at the show, Punt? No. I don't think so. I risk my case. That's probably true.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Those pranks are not funny. They are not. Well, let's start in 2002 at the age of 84 and after this time apparently his family came forward to confirm that Wallace was in fact responsible for the footprints. From what I read it wasn't clear whether or not this meant that Wallace himself was some sort of a big foot or if he faked the footprints. I think people probably would have noticed just in like interviewing him that he had super huge feet. And they would have been quite out of proportion with the rest of his body, so it would have been quite noticeable. Again, I didn't get a chance
Starting point is 00:33:17 to interview him either, so it wasn't able to make that. I would assume it's the latter. Okay. Imagine if a little prank that you did created something as famous as Bigfoot. That would be amazing. It would be so great. But I mean, the people, the true believers still believe these footprints are genuine. And the area of Bluff Creek continues to be a hotspot for bigfoot trackers. And that's because of this one and also another. There's been a lot of sightings around that area, but often you know where people go to look for something they'll find something, if you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:33:53 But another one of the most famous stories occurred right here in this location. In this studio. He did sort of point with your hand a little bit. Sorry, I'm vividly telling this story. You're there. I'm there. I'm in Bluff Creek. Sorry, I'm just vividly telling a story.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'm just really in the story. Have I not got you guys in? Sorry for not being vivid. Can you smell the skunk ape? I can smell some cabbage. Some swamp cabbage, man. I can smell a man. I can smell a man.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But you know, like there's so many ways of reasons why a family might come forward and say this even though it wasn't true. Maybe the feds got to them. Oh, that's what that's. Or maybe some other, you know, secret organization that we don't even know about who kept the big foot under wraps. For the ones who get it done, the most important part is the one you need now, and the best
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Starting point is 00:36:19 Always stripes safely. A Bluff Creek was also the location for the famous Patterson Gimlin film. Do you guys heard of this? Yes! No! J- I'm sure, have you seen it, Jess? The footage, it's of him walking. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Should we put walking? I thought you meant film like motion picture. It is. Oh. It is a motion picture. It's a motion picture. It is. Oh. It is a motion, there is a motion picture. Okay. Of him walking. Right. Do that a minute long?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah, okay, but it's not a feature length film. It's not a feature length film nominated for an Oscar. Oh. It's just a moving, it's just a film. What a cruel way to find out. In some ways, you're less impressed by a feature film nominated for an Oscar versus an actual film of Bigfoot. Correct. Show me the art.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's the most famous evidence. Yeah. I mean, Verden commas with my fingers there, because some people don't believe it. Sorry. What? I'm sorry. Nice, Ayers. Yes, I've called them that somewhere in here.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Anyway, the film was shot in 1967 and it shows a big muscular, humanoid ape with large breasts casually walking upright. It's a forest clearing. The quality of the footage is a bit dicey, but it's pretty clear. It's the best anyone's ever come up with that hasn't been instantly shot down as BS. Sure. Short for bullshit, Dave. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:50 The video is named for Roger Patterson and Bulba Giblin, the man who shot the footage. Both Patterson and Giblin had been amateur boxes and rodeo cowboys. Ooh. So it hadn't been hidden ahead at all. Or maybe a little bit. Now there are potentially really good at both of those things. There is plenty of conjecture about the film. There would have been images if they're really good at it. No, no, they, well, okay. Most of it humble. That was just humble. It was a different time. So there's plenty of conjecture about the film's authenticity and even Patterson and Gimlin's
Starting point is 00:38:29 stories of what happened that day have had doubt cast around them, right? Some say that they, well I mean if they think the movies made up, I guess they would assume the whole story is made up to be honest. But here's how the story goes. On Friday, the 20th of October, Paterson and Gimlin were searching for Bigfoot on horseback around Bluff Creek. When they rounded a corner, they saw the hairy figure later known as Paddy. That's what the beast in that film is now. Nicknamed Paddy. Nicknamed Paddy, yeah. I don't know if it's after him or not. Maybe it's because of the Pat and Paterson, give him one for me, I should have probably looked that up. Anyway, so they saw Patty.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Paterson dismounted and runs towards the beast before pulling out a video camera he's hired, obviously for this purpose they were looking for it, and he shot the famous footage. At first it's a bit shaky, but then he sort of stabilizes. And the middle section of the film is the clearest, which is also includes the most famous shot in all big foot history.
Starting point is 00:39:30 It's the one you'd probably picture if you're imagining big foot, unless you're thinking Harry and the Henderson's with John Lithgow as the father of the Henderson's. That's two. My God, he's in every film. Two Lithgow's in two weeks. He is a talented and versatile man.
Starting point is 00:39:44 He certainly is. Seeing double Lithgow. to Lithgow's in two weeks. He is a talented and versatile man. He certainly is. Seeing double Lithgow. For Lithgow's. So this famous part of the film is, you know, it's pretty stable and the beast sort of turns his head or her head, sorry, to look at the camera. And flips the bird. Flips the bird, you're in there.
Starting point is 00:40:02 You're in rollable AIDS off. Rollable AIDS. Yeah, it's your sick. It shit suckers. You're in there. You're in there. Roller blades. Yeah, it's your sick. Eat shit suckers. Never sleep. It's fucking cool, man. So that frame is frame 352.
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's the famous frame. Other one was eye contact. Yeah, it was turned its head and it was looking at the camera. On YouTube, which I watched it, and then I read some of the comments. I reckon maybe 45 minutes Which is what some people would argue is a great way to spend your time Me included So some of the people who are arguing in the comments about this frame some saying that the look proves it's real
Starting point is 00:40:39 Saying stuff like if you're a man in a suit. Why would you look towards the camera? It's ridiculous, right? But if you didn't want people to think you're a man in a suit, you would look at the camera. I assume people counted with that. Yeah, I think, yeah, people counted with all sorts. Like some arguments were like, yeah, fair enough. And some arguments were like, what are you talking about? It's a double bluff. And they're like, no, it's a quadruple bluff.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Four crusties. So I reckon there's probably a few different reasons. Personally, when people were saying that, my thoughts were like, maybe that look was just to see if the camera was rolling because it was the 20th take. And like, are we doing this again? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:19 So if it was a fake, then it's unlikely that was the first take. Yeah, like professional actors accidentally look at the camera all the time and they have to reshoot a scene and they're professionals. Yeah, it's like, yeah, sometimes you clock the camera no doubt. Jess, I saw you do that one. Damn, I was going to, yeah, I do it all the time. Accidentally.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Well, why do you always wink then when you do it? It's an accident. I'm naturally charming. Naturally you're winking. Is Pickford winking at me? Is that rolling? Wink. So anyway not long after the head turn, kept walking, disappeared out of you. The video is something you can make. Did he say, hey, I'm walking here? Yeah yeah and how does it disappear out of you just out of frame because you can move the camera or into sort of trees and stuff hmm behind stuff and then all right came out a little bit briefly and then went back away again I'm not a thought about
Starting point is 00:42:14 this is there any audio on the video I saw there was it was ominous music oh dand. I get nothing for the Chewy Sand. Oh. No. Oh, just go on with the report. That was very good Chewy Sand. Jess, well done. Thank you. Can you do it again?
Starting point is 00:42:37 No. Now go on. No, no, I'm shy. But she's winking again. Following the sighting, the pair continued to track patty until the terrain made it too difficult. Then they made, they went back, made, I got some plaster, Paris or whatever, made plaster casts of the footprints which are still seen as being, you know, by a lot
Starting point is 00:43:02 as great proof of the authenticity of it all. But there were some inconsistencies between their stories. I don't know, did I mention that before? For instance, Patterson said the big foot was between six and a half and seven feet tall, whereas Gimlin said six foot flat, right? And that doesn't sound like a lot, but that's half a foot to a full foot difference within, in heart, it's quite a big. That is quite a lot, but that's half a foot to a full foot difference within in height. It's quite a big. That is quite a lot. But if someone's a long way away, say if there was an NBA basketball player, 50 meters away from me, I probably couldn't tell you how tall.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And also super bulky. Yeah. So, like, yeah, I don't see that as being necessarily. No, I think that's really hard. Something other people say is like, uh, Patterson, some people say, like skeptics say, he's a known liar. He's spent his whole life lying, right? Something that's what some say. Paterson, some people say skeptics is a known liar. He's spent his whole life lying, right?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Something that's what some say. He also changed it. So I think later we were saying seven and a half feet. It grew in his memory as time goes, but that's also something that can happen. Also, to go back to that YouTube comment thing again, if it was planned, wouldn't they agree, all right, it was six, six exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Exactly. That's an argument that believes, um, counter with all the time. They say, if anything, it's proof that it is real. Yeah, because if it was all states that I'll be like, yeah, he was, this color exactly blah, blah. And we had to return the costume by 430. Otherwise, we'd have to pay for two days. Wait, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:20 To forget that last bit. Ha, ha. The timeline in the pair story has also come under scrutiny with skeptics with some saying the things they said happened on the day could not have possibly all fit into their timeline. It was pretty jam packed afternoon. They're like and then we went back to the camp on horseback and it was this far away and then we went back and did the classes and then they sent off the film and they're like it doesn't add up. It would have been very hard to happen. Some have looked into it and the flight, they said they sent the film on. That day that they said it was, the planes were all grounded. Oh, that's okay, that's a bit dodged.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's what, but then I'll just say, it wouldn't have happened on that date. And there's some murky stuff around. So people, non-believers, it's definitely bullshit, but still so many people, definitely real, right? Anyway, and there are plenty of nice days about the video, Jess, because you could argue it is almost definitely bullshit, right?
Starting point is 00:45:17 I wouldn't, but you could argue that. You could. But that's boring to me. I think it's boring to hear what the skeptics talk about. So one thing they do say that makes sense to me is that if it is real, there's got to be plenty of them around to breed and go on and that sort of stuff. So if that's the case, why hasn't anyone ever found a big foot body or bones or anything, right? And one argument I've just come up with now is that they're immortal. They live forever.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Oh, that would make sense. You never find somebody. Or they all spontaneously combust. Yes. My favorite. That is a death. Exactly. So there are definitely reasons why this would be.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Or that they're super intelligent and over the years have figured out ways of evading us and they've got their own system to dispose of each other's bodies. Or, maybe... More people. ...more people. Exactly. Could be FBI.
Starting point is 00:46:09 So there could be an agency covering... There are lots of possibilities. But anyway, the no say is a kind of party, Pupas rights. That's boring. Let's hear from some of the yay sayers. One thing about the video that keeps many believes excited is the way Patty moves. They love the way she moves. Got a moonwalk?
Starting point is 00:46:29 No, no, it's all forward earth walking. So they did create the moonwalk before Michael Jackson? No, someone did though, didn't they? Who did that? Yeah, I think I've. Chloe. Chloe, I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I believe it's say that the walk is unlike any human wood or even crude walk, right? According to an article published for the Oregon public broadcaster, the professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University Spuds Club, Jeffrey Meldrum, is one of the few academics to openly study sat squatch and he is a believer saying, this is a quote. It's all so easy to say, obviously that's a man in a first suit until you see it up against a man in a first suit. And you go, that's a man in a first suit. That can't be a man in a fan suit.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And so you're saying that whilst he's wearing a first suit? He's just got a fetish. It's for credibility. Yeah. Yeah. just got a fetish. Just for credibility? Yeah. Yeah. Is that a photoshopping himself in? You can't look. This is a man in the first suit.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Is like a jauntily walk next to... Crocodile Dundee. That's not a man in the first suit. This is a man in the first suit. Darren put the song on. Foo, dip the pooo, dip the pooo. Just prancing around in the first suit. Darron put the song on Just prancing around in a first suit and that's why I am the professor of Idaho
Starting point is 00:47:53 Professor of Idaho self-described Melodym to Bolter is argument. He points to the movie planet of the age Which is men in first suit. Yes, so Dave I don't know if he picked that out. Sorry, as all academics do, have you ever seen the film Godzilla? He points to the film. I sort of get his logic here, somewhat. Wait a minute, statue of liberty. That was our planet. When a moment does that man, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I can say many sins and I was about to eat before Christy's. The first of the Planet of the Apes movies came out around the same time as the Patterson, Gimman, Film, right? So you could argue that they could be compared in terms of if you're saying they're both suits technology-wise, yeah, yeah, and the planet of the apes first movie 1969 was nominated for the Oscar for best costume design. So it was that you know the cutting edge big-budget film a lot of money into the costumes
Starting point is 00:49:04 But it like it looked shitty. His argument is, this is what Hollywood's come up with, pretty unbelievable things when compared to this, that these rodeo clowns, whatever they were, they weren't clowns, but anyway, not in that sense of the word. rodeo boxes. Boxes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You know, I'm over-explaining something that is obviously clear already. What his point was. Of the Planet of the Apes Apes, Meldrum suggests they look like big hairy Pillsbury doughboys when compared to the Patterson Gimland film, ape, patty, not ape, ape man, not ape man, big foot. Did Patterson and Gimlin, did they win the Academy Award for Best Picture over Thunder the Apes that year? That's something I did. For not Best Picture Ponyery, Best Costume, they should have.
Starting point is 00:49:50 They really should have. According to the article, he shows the Patterson Gimlin film to his students at university and asks them to critically analyze it. They start at the head and they can see the trapezius, they can see the deltoid, a recta spine down the back, shoulder blades moving under the skin, the quads contract when they're supposed to contract. None of which ever show up in a cheap off-the-shelf costume.
Starting point is 00:50:16 That's true, can't see dem quads. Yeah, so all these, and it's a big, big, mussely beast, right? So that's an interesting thing. Debate continues to rage on about the film. Was it a hoax or just through dumb luck? These two rodeo riders lucked in a costume that behaved in a more believable way than the high-tech Hollywood ones.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Which is, I mean, that's possible, but yeah, I agree. Not by luck. Yeah, not by luck. Like they just happen to go to a really good costume shop. The other things, some people say is the way the film was shot. They're not sure how many frames per second, and that affects how the movements work. So maybe it's just like all these things line up
Starting point is 00:50:59 to make it look like. Which is starting to sound a bit like conspiracy theories on the other side. The kind of things people say about the moon landing video and stuff. So, but then if it's real, are they just two of the luckiest or the two luckiest bigfoot hunters of all time who just happen to be there when one walk passed? I mean, they were there in a place they believed that it would kind of be. They weren't looking for them. But so have thousands and thousands of others. And they were the only ones, still 50 years later,
Starting point is 00:51:28 over 50 years later, still the only ones who've got any sort of decent footage of it. Are they that lucky? If it's real, that's what we have to believe. And that they're immortal obviously because they don't have never left a body behind. It feels like an argument similar to religion to me, like those who want to believe in big foot will continue to do so no matter what the skeptics say. And then in the other
Starting point is 00:51:54 way around, short of physical evidence or a personal sighting, no one is, and none of the skeptics are going to budgey. That doesn't do I can have feels like that because there's been so many arguments both sides for so long 50 plus years and they're still Yeah, totally and I have my in both instances my argument is really Yeah, but really yeah, is that your argument? I can't just when it comes to religion and and big foot. Can you really me in court? But really? Oh, fuck, he's good.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Really? Ah, letter off. She's off. This guy is tedious, not guilty. Really? No, Dave, shut up, shut up now. Your job here is done. A man named Bob Heronomus came forward
Starting point is 00:52:44 to claim that he was the man who wore it with a costume in the film and his Pass a lie detector test saying that he he was the man in the soup. Really? When did he come forward? He came out decades later. His story was that he Being involved in this fraud. He felt like he would have got in trouble right. He was meant to get paid, Paterson never paid him, is how the story goes. He was meant to get a thousand bucks for that day of work. So it was meant to be good money.
Starting point is 00:53:12 He never clicked with the money and he stopped fighting for it. He stopped chasing it because he was like, it's blowing up. It's getting a lot of attention. I don't want to be associated with it because he was nervous that he was going to get in trouble for that. So that was his reason for not coming out for a long time, until a long time later. You wouldn't get in trouble though. No, I wouldn't have thought so. So it feels like it's a, it was at least very naive or that's just a story. It's possible that it is a man in the suit and this guy isn't that man as well, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Also, I've read that Paterson also passed a lie detector test saying that it is all real. So lie detector tests are foolproof. Oh, clearly. It sounds like. Yeah, they've contradicted each other. So what it has to be like? Yeah, I don't think we've known that for a long time. They're not allowed, like, the inadmissible or admissible, inadmissible in court.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Admissible? I'm not sure. I don't think it's inadmissible, right? Yeah, I never hear of themmissible in court. admissible. I'm not sure. I don't think it's inadmissible, right? Yeah, I never hear of them being used in Australia. Yeah, I don't think or America, and I think they're, they're the same as being consistently. But they are a great plot point. Great plot point. Totally.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm very fun to watch. Yeah, a little needle go on a reality show or something. Love it. And they're like sweating. Yeah. Look at all tense. And the strap to like some of that looks similar to the electric chair. Yeah. Of the two filmmakers, Patterson died of cancer only a few years after the film was made. Gimla on the other hand still lives and maintain it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Really? Oh my gosh. Really? That was legit. That's how good I am. How convinced myself I was surprised? And so he still maintains that the film is legit. Around 50 years after the film was shot, he was interviewed by outside magazine. And he said that he wished he'd never went looking
Starting point is 00:55:05 for the creature saying that Bigfoot has ruined his life. He sort of got pushed out of getting royalties from the film which apparently just made a lot of money. It collects royalties which is insane. So why did he get pushed out of his theatre? I thought it was some sort of legal deal but this was I think soon after it happened. I think he got. I have some sort of legal deal, but this was, I think soon after it happened, I think he got squeezed out somehow some sort of legal thing. Probably had about a good lawyer like you, but just going to probably get the job done. Yeah, you shouldn't give this guy any money. He felt like he was in a loose, loose situation, right?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Like, either way, no matter what people thought they were, either thought he was a space kid at for believing in Bigfoot or he was a liar. You know, like most people, apart from the true believers, everyone else thought he was sort of in negatively one way or another. Bit kooky.
Starting point is 00:56:01 At the time, he said, back at way back, he said, I can understand why they don't believe in it because I didn't believe in it either, but I saw one and I know what I saw and I know it wasn't a man in a suit. It couldn't have been. Imagine if he filmed. Actually, there was a scenario. I thought of this too, where they both passed the light attack to test because he he honestly thinks he's seeing a real man And that is a man in a suit. So they're both telling the truth Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yes, and that and some people have put that forward as a suggestion as well Oh, I know clever. No, no you are I Didn't think of that until I read someone say it, but um like that he was a prank the Bob Hirona Miss guy. I think he said he was organized to do it by Patterson. So that in that case, it doesn't work, but it could be if heronymous is full of shit, Gimman could have thought he saw it even though he didn't potentially. That was a confusing. And of the two filmmakers,
Starting point is 00:56:58 one of them might have been in on it like to prank their friend. And it blows up and you're like, I just better keep my mouth shut. There are, there's also talk that Paterson was in it for money. He knew he didn't have a long left and he wanted to leave an income stream for his partner. But what do you think of that? I don't know, out of all the things to do. I mean, just create a drug lab, like breaking bad or something.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah, or just go to the casino. Yeah, don't do, all right. What I'm gonna do is create a 10-second film of Bigfoot. And that will keep royalties in my family for the next 50 years. It's a real role of the does. It's a real role. That's a casino of one. And all I have to do is spend $1,000 to pay a man to dress up in the suit.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And hire an expensive camera. Which I think, yeah, I think a company... He got a company to pay for all those things. I think it was a real, he's one of our classic charismatic good talkers, the kind of a swindler guy, which we come up a lot. Yes, the Perkins, the Perkins archetype. Really?
Starting point is 00:57:57 So that's, I mean, obviously, there's so many different paths I could have gone down. And even just in that story alone, it's so much that has been untouched there. I've sort of thought I'd finish with a few little fun facts. There's quite a few here, though. I will decide. Sorry, attempted fun facts.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Facts at this stage. Is the first one. But are they really facts? Really? You know, I was talking earlier about Harry and the Henderson's, which I remember watching when I was a kid. I'm going to need you to read a cap. I don't actually know Harry and the Henderson's.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I played along. I don't know. So as a film, like they found a big foot and then as a comedy and then he sort of lived as an adopted family member. Really? You know, that sort of thing. This was a film. And it reminds me of InSino Man.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And yeah, I guess it's a- But without the abs. But anyway, there was sort of a spin-off sitcom with different actors that ran for a few seasons as well. Oh. Yeah, so it was a big thing, Harry and the Henderson's. But this is what, that's not the fun fact necessarily. What I thought was a fun fact. You know how in the Harry Potter episode we were giving shit to America for renaming some of the Harry Potter movies.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Well, in the UK, Harry and the Henderson's was released as bigfoot in the Henderson's. But I didn't think that the bigfoot on the post would be enough for the UK audiences. Isn't think that the big foot on the poster would be enough for the UK audience, isn't it? Is that fun? Yeah, like the UK audience is a sort of like poster. Let's see the poster and go, wow, that's a really hairy big man with large feet. I assume John Lithgo is hairy.
Starting point is 00:59:37 And the others are the Henderson's. What's this? Is that their pet? Is this some sort of typer? Put like an image form. But it also makes it a really, it just sounds such like it, it becomes a real dumb name for a movie to me, big foot in the hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And it's like, although it sounds no good. It's about two obvious. I wouldn't have needed you to explain to me the concept behind it. That's true. If you told me, big foot in the hand, since I would have been right there with you. You would have been like, moves with Tomlith goes family. Of course, and of course there'll be some sort of spin-off series for a few seasons in different
Starting point is 01:00:10 actors. So that feels like on just a scale that is not quite a fun fact. Not quite. This next one maybe is in a similar boat but I thought thinking back to Mothman, I'm like, there's gotta be some festivals, right? And it turns out there are so many big-foot festivals in America. Really? So many, right? That was genuine one. I found a listicle that named the top five. Fuck, I love listicle. Wow, there's a top five.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Big-foot festival. Yeah, and the number one they listed was the Honobia Bigfoot Festival, which takes place on a Christian mission in Honobia, Oklahoma. Events there include helicopter rides. Okay, Bigfoot rides. Yeah, no, this is like, there's not a lot of things with it. There's a couple of things with it just like put Bigfoot at the start of it, but that's... It's like you can go and look for it. I guess that's got to be the angle of the ride. Bigfoot eating contest, Bigfoot at the start of it, but that's like up to see you can go and look for it. I guess that's that's got to be the angle right big foot eating contest Bigfoot rides. There's the big foot 5k run big foot fashion parades compare your foot size to big foot foot
Starting point is 01:01:15 everything else is in normal You know normal spelling normal caps normal lower case, right? But then one is kid zone, all caps. Is it kids with a zid? No. Dammit. Is it zone with a zid? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Oh, that's pretty red. They also advertise that they've got a face painter named Faces by Wendy. That's pretty on theme. And a street performer called Hillbilly Willie. Hillbilly Willie. Hillbilly Willie. Wham, Hillbilly Willie and I can chuggle on top of a ladder. Is that Hillbilly?
Starting point is 01:01:53 It just seems like there's not all that much big foot stuff going on. It's an artwork contest, though. It's called the big foot artwork contest. So I guess and it says you could do anything. It could be. Also, it doesn't have to be Bigfoot related. Yeah, I think it might have to be, but it could be a painting or a sculpture or whatever. So to graph. Cost you five bucks to enter.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Oh, thank you. I've already made the fucking art, mate. Thanks for letting me know. You were looking like you were ready to go. Now, you don't have five bucks to spare on this. Yes, I'm the artsy one after all. This also confused me, but this could be just the top. I'm not really worthy of our time on this podcast,
Starting point is 01:02:29 but now it goes movie Saturday night at 6 p.m. And then, confusedly, it says festival is over at 5 p.m. each day. So I don't know quite how that works. Has the organiser just scheduled a movie night for himself and accidentally put it in that calendar? Yes, I think that my wife and I will be watching a movie you are not invited. That's just a now home But I just don't want to forget to go home alone to him. I've got to get a block bus from my way home All right, Atari in the Henderson's for sure
Starting point is 01:03:00 All of that surely there's a fun fact in there somewhere I think the fact that it cost five bucks into the art show was the fun fact. Well, I'm very confused by what corporate. I thought helicopter rides was fun. Just the fact that there's a festival is fun. Yes. Why did you just blank? I was setting corporates, but that's not the word I meant.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Anyway, hillbilly-willy, it was what I thought made that fun. Yeah. And then finally, this is another listicle, because I know you love listicles. Love them, and I love the word, listicle. Because you bloody love Portman Towers. Oh, I love them. Bloody love, she loves them. She loves them. I love them, they're so fun.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So this listicle was on the wake.com and it's called 11 crazy bigfoot conspiracy theories and they're all great 11 isn't annoying number I want I want to go through a moral One of them is irrelevant. Let's read ten. They can't all be good. Sorry. Let's say ten. Thank you great How this is a DNA test proved that bigfoot is part human, a hybrid right. And this was, this study was done by Texas Veterinarian Melba S. Ketchum. Okay. Claims, this is something that no one has officially done, but apparently claims to have Sasquatch DNA somehow and and records it includes human DNA.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Okay, so is there just some weird cult out there, fucking bears? Yes. Because what's the other half? Apparently she went on to insist that that they're an indigenous people and immediately should have protection of their human and constitutional rights and the right to bear arms. Yes. What he made up top we should give them weapons. We should give them the right to call a lawyer and one family and remain silent. Oh, anything they say. Any grunt they make can and will, but use the evidence.
Starting point is 01:05:05 This one was, this one's full on. Apparently, there's a conspiracy that the government secretly removed burnt Sasquatch corpses from Mount St. Helens after the 1980 eruption. So apparently Mount St. Helens was already known as a real hotspot for eight men's sightings. So I'm doing, um, jazz hands, um, since the 20s, uh, and apparently there were a few eyewitnesses who reported saying federal helicopters carrying
Starting point is 01:05:33 off the charred remains of several Sasquatches from the area. Several. Yeah. Charred remains. Yeah, that doesn't make it sound like it could be the fact that their charred remains makes it tricky Flying in a helicopter. You like on up from a distance. I can't tell that it's a big foot charred remains from anywhere I was imagined that they're in like a net Floin below that doesn't make sense. Especially when you're trying to take them away. Why would you be doing that? They're in it. They were hanging below in a display case. Yeah, imagine if you're on a... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For the big... For in was carrying around the child remains. I look, I found one, shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Shut up, I will crash this helicopter. It's all kills all. That's how I want to protect this secret, even though I run the Bigfoot Festival to throw them off the scent. People in the YouTube comments will say, well, the Bigfoot Festival founder would never found a Bigfoot Festival if they didn't exist, but they did exist. Am I right? Okay, I'm lost. It comes up if you agree. There's another one here in 1973, Pennsylvania and UFO researchers stand Gordon said he noticed an increase in sightings of Sasquatches entering and exiting extra-tirexural vessels. He believes that they're actually aliens.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Okay. Okay, well he is probably inclined to say that about nearly everything. This burger's an alien. Okay, all right. Yeah, no, very good. Watching the sheets, that's an alien concept to me. I'll lie in my filth. My human filth. Do indeed, NatS, do one. I'm part human. I mean, all human. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Just a couple more quick ones. I won't even do 10. Suspatches appear in the Bible. What? A few modern creationists have argued that the giants briefly mentioned in the book of Genesis were actually early big feet. Giants.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I've said it in big feet. Maybe it is big feet. No, big foot. Big foot. Definitely sounds smarter. Yeah. I don't remember they're being giants in the Bible, but I mean, I've never read it cover to cover.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You got to read Genesis. You'll. You've got a very genesis. You'll love the bit where they briefly mention giants. Oh. Um, is this one a good one to finish on? Sasquatches occasionally sodomized domestic cows. So says a local farmer whose cows are acting suspiciously and definitely doesn't want to cop the blame himself. I definitely didn't fuck those cows. It was a sass quench. I didn't know this but it says in this listicle which I obviously can
Starting point is 01:08:36 always always believe the school. Is it the top 10 things bigfoot fuck? It says animal animal. It says animal animal. Theuality is far from uncommon. And apparently according to more than a few farmers, they've witnessed male big feet, which they say here explicitly is the plural of bigfoot. So I've been, I mean, and I, I do, I trust the listicle more than with my life. More than a few farmers have claimed to have seen male big-feet getting intimate with some unfortunate bovine. I like how they phrased that. This is a very funny list to call you. Of course the farmers. Of course the farmers sober. Guess pretty lonely out there. Well that wasn't, I did you see a big
Starting point is 01:09:20 hairy male fucking of cow? That was, yeah that I saw it too it was not me even I was wearing my overalls Which is another thing big feet often wear my overalls I must have left them in the ban There's helped themselves Those dirty big feet you mean those overalls and just over there in the corner in your washing basket there No, no other one other ones. I have those overalls that are just over there in the corner and you're washing basket there? No, no, other ones, I have multiple overalls. So you want to end on that one? Today!
Starting point is 01:09:56 Really? I don't know, I do not have to. I can, you're not going to get a better one than farmers banging a cow. Well this is the other one, this is one that we sort of mentioned earlier. I can, you're not going to get a better one than farmers banging a cow. Well, this is the other one. This is one that we sort of mentioned earlier. Sasquatches bury their dead. That's one theory cryptos who I'll just have come up with.
Starting point is 01:10:15 But if they bury their dead, that means they understand the concept of digging, thus tunneling. That makes so much sense. Maybe they thought it was digging zone grave. I know, well this is convenient. Let them continue. We're going to kill him in a minute anyway. Yeah, it's perfect. Unless they call their dicks, they're dead,
Starting point is 01:10:35 and when they talk about burying them, they're talking about in cows. Yeah, I think that's it. That's a question, Matt, for you in the future? Edit that out or not. You are. I reckon you will. So, should we thank the people who have kindly suggested this topic? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:54 We had Daniel A. Matheer. Thank you, Daniel. A. Matheer? Where? A. Matheer. Okay. Whatever you say, Daniel. Thank you, Daniel.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Good job, Daniel. Thank you, Daniel. Good job, Daniel. We also had Tony Martinez. Oh, Tony Martinez. Or Tony Martin's. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Tony.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And thank you, Daniel. And also, Odin McCarthy. Thank you, Odin. Okay, a shrub master 27. Shrub master. It's a good, okay, I... That's I like it. That's his Twitter. Michael Sultenberger and Lenerd Stales.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Great names. I'd also like to thank Elizabeth King, Emily Nutsen. Sorry about the pronunciation. I fucked that up last time. We're working it. And Sarah Klau. That's a popular topic. I didn't even realize how many people had suggested it. That might be one of the most suggested ones we've had. That's haps.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Also, Marcus Gallagher actually suggested the Patterson Gimlin film in particular. Oh, cool. Well, we did a big part there, so we can thank you also for suggesting that. Is that? That's everyone. Yeah, that's everyone. Awesome. Thanks so much, guys, for suggesting the topics. Yeah, we appreciate that. Listen that that's everyone? Yeah, that's everyone. Awesome. Thanks so much guys, so suggesting the topics.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah, we appreciate that. Listeners suggesting topics. And you can do so at any time. Remember, there is a little link in the description of this episode that text you to a little form. We can fill out and suggest a topic. And also tell us why you think it's interesting. That's, they're always really fun to read.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yes. Some people take it very seriously. And some people make a joke. Both find by me. Yeah, I like it too. This was also voted on in our golden hat for Patreon. Oh, thank you to those people that voted for it. Was it a landslide? I think it was something like 60%, so a relatively solid majority. percent, so relatively solid majority. Yes, but just thinking about Patreon would be great to thank some of our Patreon supporters now. That is a fantastic idea. Yes, that's right. And so thank you everyone. In general, that supports the show at patreon.com.com.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Such do go on pod in exchange for your love and support. We'll give you love bonus episodes, shout-outs, access to tickets tickets and all sorts of extra posts. We really appreciate everyone that does so. And let's think of you now. Can I thank someone? Okay. That'd be so nice. Can I thank Alec?
Starting point is 01:13:15 Should we give them a, I'll turn a big foot name. Or how they were swamp-caved men? No, you were a super idea. No, no, I was just trying to compute it. I like it. No, it's on a stupid idea. No, I was just trying to compute it. I liked it. No, it's stupid. You hate it. Can you do the first example and then I'll jump in.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yep. Okay. I'd like to thank a legend from Adelaide where Matt has just been and where you had such a good time that we've decided we'll probably go there for a podcast sometime in the near future. Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting back there. And I'd like to thank and hopefully we'll see when we do the show, Timothy Poulton. Shrubbery-based.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Timothy Poulton, the Shrubbery-beast. Shrubbery-based, love it. Ah, Shrubbery! Who would win a fight between the Shrubbery Master and the Shrubbery-based? Ooh, base. Just like the Master. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:14:01 The Master controls the beast. Oh. Sorry, Tim, you lost it out there. And I'd also like to thank From Manchester in the UK, Nicole Carr. Oh, Matt, have a go. To be honest, I missed what you said at the start and I was trying to piece it together. So it's something to do with plants and monsters. It's just a different, like, another name for like a Yeti.
Starting point is 01:14:22 All right, so tell me again, I'll just call just say what comes to me okay from Manchester in the UK it's Nicole car Tractor tracked a monkey. Oh, that's an old Then old ABC TV show in Australia Well, she won't know that you think that's very interesting Tractor monkey I like it and I imagine that's probably phrase, if that's why they call the show that. All it is on Wikipedia is the TV show. Okay, could just be a TV show.
Starting point is 01:14:51 But there you go, Nicole Carl, the Tractor Monkey of the podcast. May I thank some people? Please. Okay, I would like to thank, from Dundee in Scotland. Oh, good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Scott McFarlane. Scott McFarlane. The broccoli. Okay. Ben Boy. Broccoli Ben Boy. Where did broccoli come from, Dave? Ah, cabbage. Yes. Broccoli Ben Boy. Yeah, I'm with you. Well done. So thank you, Scott. Broccoli Ben Boy. Bbbb. Oh, that's good. The triple B. That's much better than broccoli Ben Boy. Triple B. Don't let anyone know what it's saying. Well, you triple B mine. That's what he says on Valentine's Day to his love interest. All future love interests. That's key. Depending on where he is in his story arc. And I'd also like to thank for my favorite city
Starting point is 01:15:41 in the entire world. Where's it going to be? Perth. We've spoken about this so many times. You guys may have listened to me. Is it Melbourne? I imagine you'd live in the places that you're favorite. Otherwise, why wouldn't you move to the other place? It's Paris.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Because our podcast is in Melbourne. Do you want me to move to Dublin? Is that why it's called? Dublin's a very nice city. It's my favorite place. And I would like to thank Jenny LaVelle. Oh, the name. Jenny LaVelle. Oh, the money. Good name, I hate.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Jenny LaVelle. I know. Can I have a go at this one? Yes. Bell bottom dollar. Bell bottom dollar. Wow. Bet you bottom dollar.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Bet you are an antifan. Tomorrow. Bell bottoms. And like in jeans. Dollar, money. That doesn't quite work, does it? It's no, there's no wrong answer here, that's fine. Jenny can be the Bell Bottoms dollar. What about the...
Starting point is 01:16:35 Try a Bell Bottoms something else. Maybe go, it's a B again, so it's B, B, B. Okay, the... Bell Bottoms Bull. Bell BottomsB. Okay, the bell bottom bull. Bell bottom bull. Oh, that's good. So, I like it. Picture that it's a bull wearing like old disco pants.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Right. On how many legs two or four? Two. Oh, back legs. Back legs. Back legs. If you were just the front legs wouldn't it? Yeah, they walk out because yeah, everyone,
Starting point is 01:17:03 that's the old main thing that went around, which would you do? You definitely just back legs. Back legs. Shared on the top legs. Well, top legs. You know how fucking animals work. Drongo's, all right, can I thank you, couple?
Starting point is 01:17:18 Yes. And please don't let me do the things, because I'm, I reckon I want this one from Dave and I really would love just to take it home tonight. Okay. Yes. You seem like you've got a talent for this. That's not true at all.
Starting point is 01:17:33 From one of my favorite suburbs of Melbourne. Dublin? I'd love to think. From Sunshine North. Oh. What a love. I hate Sunshine West. But North.
Starting point is 01:17:43 You're back in the zone. I'm a big, you know, I'm a big West fan. And Sunshine, what a hate sunshine west but north you're back in the zone I'm a big you know. I'm a big west fan Mm-hmm and sunshine. What a name for a town. Yeah, love it from sunshine north I'd love to say love to sank and think in equal measure Sam a bella Sam a bella the crab diver Ooh just a normal sort of job. Oh yeah. Or he's a crab. He's a crab man.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Right, so a crab man diver. A snorkel, like he's got a snorkel in. Yeah. Wow, that's cool. Does the crab's need snorkels? This one does. So he's basically saying it's a crab. It's a crab.
Starting point is 01:18:19 It's a crab. When I say it, I mean, a good friend. But it's a giant one. Samo Bella. Like man size crab. Oh man crab. Wouldn't you call it a a John Marble. Sam Marble. Like man size crab. Oh man crab. Oh. Wouldn't you call it a man crab man?
Starting point is 01:18:27 Crab man. Crab man diver. Crab man diver. Diving crab man. Yeah. Crab man diver. Sounds like a. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Ronnie James Deo song. Holy diver. So that one. Yeah. What does he actually say? Is it holy diver? Holy diver. Yeah, it was, it was that genuinely pretty close to that.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I just changed. Crab man diver. And I would also love to that. I just changed. I would also love to thank from Wullengong. It's a great city of Australia. Olivia Barnett. The Wullen Barnow. Oh spooky. Man.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Oh. It's a humanoid. Again, when I say it, I mean Olivia. Yep. A good friend. Olivia is a human-sized owl, but instead of feathers, wool. Yep. Wow, there's wings, but man-leg. Can she fly? Yes. Ah, and the wool doesn't hinder hinder. But you get a wet. Can't fly. But the warmth stays in. Oh, yeah. We'll always keep you warm. Really even. Breeds really well. Even if it's wet. That's good survival material. Oh, that's why sheep wear it. Exactly. Hey Dave, before we go, I'd really love to mention this one. I met so many cool people in Adelaide and it's almost doing it as service to them to not mention them all. But I had this. I met so many cool people in Adelaide, and it's almost doing a disservice to them to
Starting point is 01:19:46 not mention them all. But I had this, I had a great time with one of them was called loose Luke because he was clearly very not loose at all and I, a classic ironic nickname. Right. And his friend who was very loose, he was, he had a couple of, was his name nerdy Nick. His name was Jack, but his nickname was Fritzel. I didn't get to the bottom of that. Okay, you know one of the...
Starting point is 01:20:11 And that's all, I don't know. He said something nice about Jess, like Jess is great. And then he goes, but what about Dave? That bloody Nazi synthesizer? Halt Hitler! Wow Nazi, now we love the solo. Big shout out to all our friends in Adelaide.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Thank you so much for tuning in there. And thanks for everyone for tuning in everywhere throughout the world. I will be back next week with another brand new episode, but until then we'll say thanks Yeah, it's gonna say it. I would have been unsatisfied. Sorry. Maybe it's all sick. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
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