Do Go On - 129 - The Silent Gibbons Twins

Episode Date: April 11, 2018

Our second live show for the MICF 2018 was an absolute HOOT! This is a fun epsiode about a strange, sad and kind of creepy topic - The Gibbons Twins. These identical twins refused to speak, and loved and loathed each other equally. There's mystery and death and a lot of tangents on our part. - Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod- Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] AND FURTHER READING: June and Jennifer Gibbons - Wikipedia'Silent Gibbons Twins' were so close that one had to DIE so the other ...Silent Twins: Without My Shadow - YouTube  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenji Amarna, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there.

Canada, we are visiting you in September this year. If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal, and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.

Should we get on with the show live from the Melbourne International Comedy Festival? 2018 in Melbourne, Australia. That's what I'm talking about. Hello, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. I thank you so much. Welcome now to another episode of Do Go One. My name is Dave Warnocky.

How are you doing at the Melbourne Comedy Festival? It is so great to be here But I am just a humble third of the show Could we please welcome to the stage The less than humble two thirds of the show Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart Ladies and gentlemen No one offered to hold my hand on the way up

I decided to point that out You're a big boy You'll be right I'm really not, I'm really not Hi Matt Hi Dave Hi Connor Everyone this is Matt

Connor's been in the front row every single live show Everyone Of anyone ever Elton John and loves it up front loves it up there great to have you here up the back how are you

Connor's always never up the back never up the back anyway we're sitting down we're doing this oh get fucked okay Google shut the fuck up

every time every time all right we're fine good start yep good start if one of them are

I would have cracked the shit. One of them. Are you panicking that yours is going to go off? Okay, Google! Phil's checking. All right, we'll give everyone a 10 second amnesty to check their Google. Check your Google.

Check your Google. All right, grandpa. My grandpa legitimately calls it the Google. Log on to the Google. That's pretty cute. It is very cute. My granddad's a dead. True, true story.

Look, it's not even your report this week and you're still bringing the mood down with debt. They were great men. Rest in peace. Yeah, I think you saved it. I think you saved it there. Jess, do you want to talk about your grandparents at all? One is alive. Woo! And the other one?

The other one is no longer with us. Oh, fuck. I thought that was going to be a real happy ending. I would have gone on the other way. And the other one is alive. Yeah. No, he died ages ago. Like so long ago.

Never met him. Anyway, I'm told we would have got along. Imagine if you'd been told you wouldn't have gone along. Thank God Grandpa died before you. He would have hated you. A comedian. You know what? Oh my God, you know what my grandpa was?

No. An accountant. Not like, we could have gone. I would be like, you're everything like, hey, old man. No, I wish I got everyone to cheer for when you said he was dead. No, I don't mean that. Accountant. Well, I'm, no, okay, well, I mean, nah, shut up.

I'm not. I don't even know if who's my real granddad. Shut up. one eighth the counten don't you don't look to be mathematically

correct it would be one quarter so I don't want to I don't care was it sorry I was he full accountant oh okay

sorry sorry I didn't realize he was a full blown accountant you thought he was half a count thought he was part timer oh fair enough we'll give you the benefit

on that one now ladies and gentlemen now give us a random pause if you've ever heard do go on the show before. You have. It would be so weird if you were like, never.

A round of applause, if you've just been dragged along or you lost in the European beer cafe basement. Bar-tender. Concerning. Concerning. And one person in the front row, hello. Welcome. What made you come along today?

She did. Your mum brought you in. Mom. And in the front row. Well done. Yeah, great. Go, go, go, go. Thanks for coming, Joe. Sad that we're on a first name basis with most of you now. Sad or amazing.

One of the two, I'm not sure. I don't know how to feel. I feel happy about it, Joe, Connor, lady. Sam? Sam, hello, welcome, thank you. Jackie's over there, hello, how you going, all right. All right, should we do a show? If you haven't heard the show before, I'll direct this at you,

what's going to happen on this show is Jess is going to report. on a topic because it's her turn and Matt and I are going to listen to us. We have promised her backstage we'll know talking over Jess this week. They've given me a one week off which will be fun.

So it's just Jess this week. We are here for moral support if anything. Right, Matt? You're worried you're going to talk over, right? Yes, I am. I am. Now, to get us on topic, if I could cut you off there, Matt.

which I can I won't cut you off Jess is going to ask a question to get us on to the... Have you written the question? Yes! Really? Really?

And it's not a good question. So I haven't strayed too far from my usual ways. Okay, my question is who are the most famous twins? Mary Kate and Ashley. Got it. The only twins

were the Hollywood Walker famed star. Fact. Really? Jess, is this report about you and me? What a dumb report that would mean. Real dumb. Real dumb. No, it's not.

Most famous twins. And they're not super-famous. Is it the Kray twins which you reported on it this week last year? Yeah. Just going to do the same one again. No? Can you think of any twins?

Arnie and Danny DeVito. Is it really? No, what? Is it? No. Yeah, love Arnie. may not have heard of them. Have you... So how are they the most famous...

Because I have just named three twins. I said it was a shit question. I said that. I outlined that early. Okay? Okay, okay. What's wrong? What are we arguing about? Merricade and Ashley aren't twins? They are.

Kardashians. No. The younger Jenners are not twins. Why the fuck do I care? But I do so much. I follow all of them. And I hate all of them. But I love all of them.

It's very confusing. I get it. Okay, no. Have you heard of the silent Gibbons twins? Are the famous silent gibbons twins? I've all heard of them. I've all heard of them at all. Hoping they're silent.

Leave the jokes to us, man. No, that was very good. That was very good. I've gone a tacky early. I'm really sorry about that. That's all right. Yeah. I woke up real grisly today.

Just sooking. I'm just having a big sook today. Just the truth. Okay. Real grizzly, right. Okay. Never do that again. What?

Someone, ooh. I don't like that. Stop that. Stop it right now. Okay, so Silent Gibbons Twins. Yes, I will tell you this, right. This was suggested by Darcy Williamson, Kiara, and Jamie Smith. And it was voted on by the Patreon listeners, so any Patreon's in here? Yeah. Jeez, not proud of that.

You shouldn't fucking heard of it, shouldn't you? Woo! Anyway, so grisly. Okay. I said I wouldn't talk over you. I didn't say I wouldn't woo over here. That's fine. Yeah, I'll allow that.

Woo! On the 11th of April, 1963, a good year. I'll do it to myself. Gloria and Aubrey Gibbons welcomed identical twin daughters, June and Jennifer. The girls were born in Babados. It's a real place? Remember the time Matt was drunk and said Babadoss? And that was a very long time ago and we haven't let it go.

You also can get over the element Magny. Magnees. He lost it. It's so good. And there's a bar in Edinburgh. Dave and I were in Edinburgh like a week. You left as I got there

and there was a barbadoes and we both sent Matt pictures of it. Like Matt look. Remember? Remember? Remember the time you were an idiot? Remember? This week's episode is going to be Remed. So yeah, they were born in Barbados. They family moved around a lot within the UK,

and June and Jennifer were both late speakers and had the same speech impediment, which made them difficult to understand. And although their family found them difficult, obviously they could always understand one another. Do you know what late speakers mean? They spoke late. That makes sense.

What is it so they... Like, developmentally... I thought you meant like what I do in this show. Whereas you'll talk about something, you'll move on and I'll be like, ha, like the time. Yeah, man. Like speakers. There's other things wrong with you developmentally.

Fair, fair, fair call. I'm so real grisly. Their father said that often, if you ask one of the girls a question, she'd firstly look at her sister before responding. I just did that to you guys. And respond. So they were kind of like, yeah. Anyway.

What happens if you ask both of them a question? They just keep looking at each other, until one of them cracks and answers the question. They were frustrated that they had to repeat themselves and the people couldn't understand what they were saying. And eventually they just stopped repeating themselves and stopped speaking altogether. They made a pact not to speak.

In 1974, the family moved to Wales, where Aubrey was stationed as a technician. Oh, man. With the Royal Air Force. Speaking of people you can't understand. Can you do a Welsh accent at all? Absolutely not. Matt, all I can do is one line from Notting Hill.

Oh yeah? And it's where his Welsh housemate says, You daft prick. I mean, you said the words. You're going to do it in the accent now? I definitely heard it on prick. Just say prick. I'm trying to.

No, I can't. I'll work on it in my mind. So they've moved to Wales. The twins were now 11, and they went to the county secondary school. They were quite good students, but their silence confused their teachers and made them targets for bullying

from the other children. They're also a different colour to the other students, and that made them kind of rare and stand out a bit. Their teachers actually... We are having inquiries on their colours. What a weird way to put that. Are these like gems or something? Yeah.

Yeah, I said that. They're green. No. They're Barbadian. Yes. Thank you. Okay. I did, I sort of missed some bit in the middle there.

But I definitely remember you talking about Barbados. Barbados. Sorry. Yeah. Their teachers actually let them leave school five minutes. earlier than the other students just so they could avoid the taunting and walk home safely. That's not good.

Teachers describe them as non-responsive. You'd talk to them or ask a question, they wouldn't respond. They wouldn't look at you. While other kids are aged were energetic and incredibly active, the twins would always walk very closely together, moving very slowly and usually in unison. Oh, that is terrifying. As if twins weren't creepy enough.

Yeah. A child psychiatrist diagnosed the girls, with selective mutism and their school wasn't able to deal with them. They're like, we can't handle this. So at the age of 14, they were transferred to the Eastgate Center for Special Education. Their new teacher, a woman called Kathy Arthur,

prepared for the girls. She set up a little desk. A little welcome sign. Yeah. Aw. That's it. I'm prepared. She wasn't really given much useful information

from their previous school, though. She was told that they were insolent and difficult, but she didn't really find that to be true. And the school suggested that they thought the girls didn't speak at all. In fact, probably didn't speak English, which was a weird profile for them to make. There's footage of the girls during their time at Eastgate

that their teacher would, she set up cameras behind a two-way mirror just to sort of record them. It's so ethical. And just some recording devices around. It's fine. Ethical. It's the 70s guys.

Yeah, it's fine. It's a different time. Should we let them know there are microphones in here now? Do you think they know? I just want to point out, I was talking to Jeremy our Sandman before, because we've got the microphone pointed that way, there's about two people there where you were coming in, he could hear everything you were saying. And we've got that on tape, so.

We're going to listen back and see if there's any juicy... Pretty they were like, so where did you dump the body? We really hope. At first, the new teacher, Kathy, she couldn't understand what they would say. They would only speak to one another and only when no one else was in the room. Is that why they set up this mirror? Yeah, so they could see, like, what are they actually talking at all and realize that they only speak to each other when they're alone?

Eventually, so she had tape recordings of their conversations and couldn't understand any of it, and then by slowing down the tape, she discovered they're in fact speaking English, just sped up. Just speaking quick. I think Welsh people do speak quite slowly. So, they speak quite slowly.

It's sort of a meandering type of thing, so maybe they just speak the normal speed of people from Barbados. They have to slow it down, just to understand. And they've grown up in, like, you know, around the UK, as well. So, like, they're, yeah, they're just speaking English. Everyone's like, I've got no idea. What are they saying? Who knows? They rarely spoke to anyone face to face, so they'd sometimes respond to a machine. Hello, ATM.

Yeah, what sort of machines are they talking to in the 70s? There were these machines where you would, like, feed through some paper, and it would, it would, like, read what it was saying, or it would make noises and stuff like that, and the girls would kind of speak to that. but okay or in writing she'd hand them like a note pad and pen be like write down what you feel they were

prolific writers they both wrote a lot I'll talk them all about that soon their teacher found that there was a difference in ability and personality in the girls which makes sense because they are two people they look the same but they're a little bit different

the 70s does that make sense to you guys we're all on board? That's a new concept to me. Okay. I'll work through it. And that by the same to you? Oh yeah.

Okay. You are twins, right? That's true. Twins born in different centuries. You zoned out there, didn't you? No, no, no. I was just starting to think about the Wakeland twins who played for the Saints.

In the 90s, I was like, I wonder if that's who she was asking about at the start. But I remember, no, it's about these Barbados people. You realize we're 15 minutes. into a report about other people. Sorry, I'm a late talker. The girls withdrew more and more from their family and would lock themselves in their room

and create elaborate stories and worlds with their dolls. They'd only speak to the younger sister Rosie who shared the bedroom with them. She's locked in there with them. Like, she kind of have to, you know? Play me out! But when Rosie was 11, the twins stopped talking to her as well and she moved into her own bedroom.

They'd just cut her off as well. They move house or is there a spare bedroom the whole time? I don't know. There was older siblings too, a couple of older siblings, so maybe one of the older ones moved out. The twins killed the old. I'm sure of it. Allegedly.

No. Are they going to kill people? No. They're going to kill people. You're hoping. You're hoping. So now, do you just cross your fingers? Maddie, did you wish murder upon people?

I mean, it sounds bad when you put it like that. Okay, so now they're only talking to one another, not even their younger sister. They'd eat in unison, always sitting together in the dining hall of their school. It's so creepy. There's video of it and it's fucking weird. And I thought it was just like old footage. Like, it's just maybe it's a bit slow.

But then you see the other kids around them moving at a very normal pace. So when you say in unison, you don't mean they're having a meal together there. Yeah, at the same time. Not like off the same fork. You're all just reacted like that was really gross It's weird But it's not I mean different plays

I think our audience would hate Synchronized swimming at the Olympics Oh so weird They're like perfectly in unison Ugh Yeah So they moved incredibly slowly They ate so slowly

That they were usually left alone In the dining room Because everyone else had finished And so it would just be those two sitting there I am a very slow eater and I am relating to these people. Okay. I feel like they're my kindred twin spirits.

Oh, I don't know, but okay, all right. Foreshadowing. They're going to do something weird. They're going to kill. Kill? Yeah. Someone's going to die! Yeah!

Wait, are they? I don't know, maybe. Interesting. The relationship between the twins was very turbulent. They wanted to be individuals, but they were also sort of trawerect. in their ways and they couldn't really be with that job. They wanted to be individuals.

Well that's the thing too. Like this was kind of a game that they played with one another and they just sort of got stuck in it. Like they were stuck in their own little game that they'd set up where they would not speak or they would do everything together. Do they wear the same clothes? Well they're in school uniforms so yeah. Everyone wears the same clothes. Terrifying.

Terrifying. Like 700 kids in the same outfit. It is weird when you think about it like that. Anyway. Do you go on. Just going to get a glass of water. Okay. Anyone want to drink in unison with me?

Oh, that's weird. I had, uh, I gulped five times. How many? How many times? Twice. Two gulps. You're the worst twin ever. Sorry, Jess, do go on.

Do you on. Thank you so much. The idea first came of separating the girls. And it was actually from the girls themselves. In their writing in their, in their diaries, they'd say that they'd speak if they were separated. They could be normal individuals, if we're separated. Both of them wrote that in their separate diaries. So the teachers then put the decision on the girls and said,

okay, you figure out which one of you's going to stay and which one of he's going to go to a different school, which was an interesting choice. The girls fought over who was going to go and who was going to stay. Do they want to go? I'd want to go. Well, they kind of changed their minds. It would be like, I'll go, you stay. And then the next day they'd be like, no, I'm staying. You go.

And they fought over it. They became quite violent. and people at the school were shocked to see these silent girls now fighting and screaming at each other where they'd never heard them speak and now they're just screaming which is, you know, it's a great escalation. Their teacher Kathy felt that June would handle the separation a bit better.

She seemed to have more coping skills than Jennifer. However, when the girls were separated, they became even more withdrawn and at points actually catatonic. They just were completely non-responsive. They're like zombies. They couldn't cope. It was very weird. June didn't cope, as Kathy had thought, and could barely move. She'd just sit on her bed in the morning and cry while unit staff cleaned her up and tried to dress her and get her moving.

So they put them back together, which was probably a good call. And when they were 16, they left Eastgate, they left school altogether, and they'd stay in their room writing stories on their typewriters. Get a Macbook. What are you doing? Imagine living with two fucking typewriters going all day Shut up The little sister is still locked in the room It's the creepiest way to ride as well

Especially if you're typing slowly Which I imagine they were Oh man I bet they were saying some real creepy things What do you reckon? What are they writing? In future years We're going to kill in unison Is that true?

No. Oh. Are they stabbing in unison? Not a bad workout, that. You sick fucks. Who was the third one? Oh, okay, I won't participate. Thank you.

You guys go on your fun little stabbing spree. So, yeah, they're writing their stories, and they decided they were going to be novelists, and I each wrote a number of novels. They felt like they could express themselves better in writing, which makes sense. They couldn't speak. And this is sweet.

They just wanted their family to be proud of them. Isn't that nice? Killing's not the way to go about that. Not in my experience. How many times did it take before you learnt your lesson? Too many, mate. Somebody. I said too much.

I've said too much. You're the only man old enough to live multiple life sentences and now be free. True. Fuck, he beat the system. On your way, old man. Okay, so when the girls were 18, I don't know if I'll tell you this part, it's a bit sad. They sent away for a course.

You can just do shit online now. They sent away for it. The course was called the Art of Conversation. They were a bit worried what would happen to them if they never spoke, if they never spoke to other people. So they sent away for this course, and they tried to follow the course instructions of how to make small talk, but they said it didn't work.

They'd been silent for so long that it was hard now to have normal conversations. Which does make sense, doesn't it? Because you learn how to have a conversation by having conversations as a very young age. But if you've never done that and you're starting from scratch at 18, you would be like, why the fuck am I asking

how the weather is? What's the point of this? It sounds like, there isn't any point. I don't know why we do it. Well, I guess the point is to find out if you need a jacket or not. That's why I ask. Sorry to derailed you thought there

Wow, you're good I didn't bring a jacket today Because I asked At this point Jess I'm really feeling for these girls These murderous twins Is that, am I on the right track here? Look, yes

When I Yep Yeah Until they kill, right? Yeah, I don't want to get too involved If these people are going to start Fucking shit up Or do I don't know

Well, what a journey How about I just do my report And you figure it out from that? No, no, I don't think so, Jess I think I'm ready to solve this one Yeah, go on then No, no, no, it's fine I'll press on and save your ass

Around the same time So the girls are 18 They could no longer bear The confines of their bedroom They decided to, they were going to leave the house Very exciting There were two American brothers The girls had come across

While they were at Eastgate and the boys were deeply troubled. They'd committed several crimes, including quite a bit of arson and theft. And the girls, the girl, bad boys. Yeah. They had, like, leather. A couple of bad boys.

We play that classic good boy, bad boy dynamic. Is that a classic thing? Yeah, the classic. That's a classic. Modern day classic. Regret face. Alright. There was no regret in that.

That was, get on board. Face. Jeez, it's hard not to say that word sometimes. You're a bad boy, you can say it. You're the good boy. Yeah, I'm the bad boy, I can say it, but I won't. Okay.

There's nothing worse than that. I want to stand over here for a bit. You're putting yourself on time out? I'm here with Webby. He's Webby the tech. How you guys doing? Are you good? All right.

You just stay on time out for a little bit. You hang out over there. We'll let Jess just get on with it. Okay, thank you. So these bad boys. Bad boys. American bad boys. American bad boys.

American bad boys in Wales. Okay. If you're going to put yourself in time out, you're going to do it quietly, okay? You okay? Yeah. All right. The other day you told me off for mothering him.

I'm enjoying that you're taking the photo when Matt's not here. That's really good. That's really good. Oh, thank God, my favourite two are still there. I've been told this before I'm too photogenic. This is what the people come to see. The Babe Bros. The Babe Bros. The Babe Bros.

All right. Sorry, Jess, we're derailing, please. The American Bad Boys. So the girls went off to find them. They started hanging out with the boys at night. That's when bad things happen. That's why I'm home before seven every night. Because I'm a good girl, all right.

They fell in love with the boys, and they were introduced to a world of sex, drugs and crime. Oh. I was really expecting rock and roll. I will. Crime. Sex, drugs, crime and rock and roll. Yeah.

Yeah. Now I can relate. Yeah. I was just one step away. As the girls vied for the boys' attention, their own relationship became even more strained and even violent. Jennifer wrote in her diary, I'm not ashamed to say that I tried to kill my sister.

Yeah, here we go. Things got out of hand. And I killed her. No? I'm sure she wanted to kill me too. Oh, two killers. June once pushed her sister into a river and held her down. This is what you wanted.

Their relationship with the American boys had given them a glimpse of finally being themselves and being free from their own self-inflicted prison so they were happy for once also trying to kill each other but the rest of the time, pretty happy, siblings, you know? You know what it's like, who's got siblings? We all want to fucking kill them.

Get all the inheritance. I love my siblings, they listen to this show. Mine does not Their happiness with the Americans was short-lived One day they came home to a note that said Going back to America Is that legit all it said?

Wow It's so good Who was the note from? Webby confiscate his microphone Is it hard to hear on the side of stage? I'm now filling in for Matt This show's about to get Good.

They were sad for a while. They stayed in their rooms again, but a few months later they started going out at night again. This time, looking for trouble. What kind of trouble? June wrote in her diary about how all week she'd been wanting to burn down the tractor shop. What's the single best sentence anyone's ever put in a diary?

Fuck you, tractor shop! What out of all the shops? You know how sometimes you just like, you think about a food that you kind of like, and then you just can't get that out of your heads for ages? She's just like, oh, I want to burn down that track of the shop. And all week she was thinking about it. And then in her diary she said,

I burnt it down today. Yeah. That is. With Jennifer's help, of course. She wrote it in her diary in explicit detail. And she was very happy about it. Like I heard part of it and she was just like, yeah, fucking burned her and the cops are looking.

And then the cops turn up and they're like, well, here's proof. He's like, oh, I should have burnt the diary down as well. Ridiculous. So she burned down the tractor shop. Burn down the tractor shop. I love it. Matt, you loving these girls?

Can you come back on stage? Yeah, right. Okay. But you're going to behave, aren't you? Yeah, no, I... Sorry about everything, everybody. I let you guys down. I let the audience down.

I let my family down. But most of all, I let the audience and you. And your family. And my family, yeah. So the girls were imprisoned while they awaited trial and they went through a never-ending cycle

of sharing a cell, fighting, being split up, being inconsolable, being put back in the same cell, fighting, being separated. It just kept going. Like they'd have screaming matches so they'd separate them and put them on opposite sides

and then they'd be an absolute inconsolable mess so they'd put them back together. Ah, good times. They refused to speak to anyone but each other which made it difficult for their doctors and lawyers to do their jobs. Eventually they agreed to some discussion with a psychiatrist over the phone.

So they set up a phone in their cell and he'd give them a buzz. I'm not one of those ones where they're on the other side of the glass and they've both got the phones. No, yeah, that's what I thought. But no, there was like a different phone set up because they won't talk to people face to face. So it's like, I mean, I don't think doing this

and still being able to look someone in the eye, they still wouldn't talk. That's not helping. Okay. Yeah. What if they're like just turned around? Same scenario. Okay.

With a slight head turn. Yeah, maybe. No. No, mate. It was a great idea. It was great. It was your best idea yet. They loved it.

I mean, we're only having one walkout because of that idea, but apart from that, apart from that, everyone else loved it. That's not bad. Just the one? Just one. Only one person hated your idea.

That's not bad. All right So they're chatting to the psychiatrist over the phone Jennifer told him about the voices she heard in her head the visions she had and that she wanted to kill her sister Yay!

Burning the tractor shop down was not enough for these guys. They want more. The psychiatrist felt that a prison sentence would leave the girls worse off because he felt they needed psychiatric treatment. He thought they were showing early signs of a schizophrenic disorder So he thought the best option for them would be to go to Broadmoor Hospital,

which is a high security psychiatric hospital. Now this isn't the first time that we've mentioned Broadmoor Hospital on this podcast, nor isn't the first time identical twins have been in Broadmoor Hospital. The Wakelands? Yeah. You fucking cutie. No. Is it the craze?

The craze. At the same time, the craze. The Cray twins were there. Spinoff episode. Isn't that fun? That is fun. That is fun. So fun.

Gotta be quicker on that, Webby. A real opportunity there. Now, June's diary sounds quite hopeful. June felt as though it was a chance at freedom and finally being able to be herself. She thought we're going to get some help and we'll be in there. They were told like three years.

You'll be there three years, Max. all G. So they agreed to that. So they pleaded guilty and were admitted to Broadmoor. They were the youngest patients to be admitted to the hospital ever because they were 19 at the time. That's a record you do not want to have. You don't want to have that. They were separated. So they were in different wards, but they visited each other. They wrote letters to each other. But they just sort of had separate rooms. And after a couple of years, they were still not speaking. They still wouldn't talk to anybody. At this time, they were fully diagnosed with schizophrenia and were given tranquilizers and the tranquilizers

gave them this hazy feeling and June described it as losing her senses and her shyness so they actually started speaking thanks to heavy-duty drugs. There's just no problem they can't take care of it. Yeah, thanks drugs. This episode of Do Go On's brought to you by drugs. Actually I had some really strong painkillers before we came out here. Got a pinched nerve guys. Nothing's weird, relax. Anyway, they wrote to their parents.

What weird thing do you think they would have been thinking for painkillers? Like, I was just addicted to them. That is weird. Imagine. I've got to keep going, we're nearly done. Okay, okay, okay. Hey, just by the way, sorry, fuck.

Oh, so close. You lasted so long. Yes, Matthew. I was just going to say that you gave me shit for my episode being South. last week. This is so much sadder than a guy dying in the woods. This is breaking my heart. This is the worst thing I've ever heard about. Oh, it gets worse. These guys are fucked. I love them.

We're going to burn down the newly refurbished tractor shop. John Deere is going to be pissed. A couple of tractor heads in. Massey Ferguson. Another brand of tractor. Name a third one. Mac. Mac, Mac, Mac, make him. International Harvester.

Lamborghinis, yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about. It's a real thing. The farm boys are here? Where the boys from the farm and we're back in town. Very welcome farm boys. My favourite 90s band.

In March of 1993, a month before their 30th birthdays, the twins finally received permission to transfer from Broadmoor to a different facility, which was a medium security. This is after years of every year they'd be like a court hearing and every year they were denied. So they thought they were going to be there for three years. They've been there for over a decade.

Yep. They were there for about 12 years. It couldn't possibly get any sad from here, Matt. Don't worry. Couldn't possibly. The day before their transfer, Jennifer was feeling ill. The next day the girls were transferred

and Jennifer was feeling a bit hide, she rested her head and her sister's shoulder. On arrival, Jennifer could not be roused. She was taken to the hospital where she died soon after of acute myocarditis, which is a sudden inflammation of the heart. And this condition is very rarely fatal. It doesn't sound that cute, Jess. I felt like they wanted me to say that. Everyone was thinking, Matt's going to, all right. Yeah, blame them, blame them. I didn't want to do it. Any of you, Sophie? I know only the names of the front two rows.

So it's rarely fatal. Rarely fatal. So she's unlucky. Yeah, and there was no evidence of drugs or poison in her system. And her death remains a mystery. It's a secret mystery, fuckos. See, now we're having fun again. Okay.

Comedy. I don't want to take the shine off the mystery, but I don't think you can say, this is what she died of. She's dead. It's a mystery, what she died of. you named the condition why would you ruin this for me you said it

you said it then we chatted about a bit acute acute something yeah you made a cute joke it was very funny so just so just take me back through why that's a mystery because there were no drugs or anything in her system no poison

caused by drugs well like that that condition that she had like shouldn't have killed her Mystery! Whoa! I was wrong. I was wrong. What is extra strange is that according to Marjorie Wallace

who was a writer who went on to write a biography of the girls, she said that June and Jennifer had a long-standing agreement that if one died, the other must begin to speak and live a normal life. During their stay in the hospital, they began to believe that it was necessary for one of them to die. And after much discussion, Jennifer, agreed that she would be the sacrifice. To be honest, that feels like you've further solved the mystery.

If anything, you've closed the case further. But how did she die? How did she just go, well, I'm dead now? She sacrificed herself. How? She just decided to die. God? You fucks. Okay, so we're all keen to know what happened to the other sister.

Well, at the inquest June, revealed that Jennifer had been acting strangely for about a day before their release and her speech had been slurred. A day or her whole life. On a visit, a few days later, Wallace, the woman who wrote an article about the books about them, sorry, she said that June was in a strange mood and that June had said, I'm free at last, liberated, and at last Jennifer has given up her life for me.

But you would say that, wouldn't you? What do you? It's a cliche, isn't it really? A couple of days after she's dead. I'm free. We've all been there, eh? We've all said it. We've all said it after a few, too many dreams.

So after 12 years in the institution in the hospital, a year after her sister died, June was released. She'd made amazing progress. Her older sister, Greta, has broken her silence, fairly recently, only a couple of years ago, saying that they should never have been held in Broadmoor. I know they did wrong, but they didn't kill any. it totally ruined their lives.

What about the tractor? Nobody ever thinks of the tractor. That tractor had one day until retirement. Oh, my goodness. And June actually lives. June's still alive. Oh, June can hear this? No. No, no, no, no, no.

Do you know if June frequently Googles her own name? All right, Bindy Irwin can also hear this. So, it's been a lot worse about her. We've been trying to figure out ways to block her since last year. Nah. Okay, so June's still alive and she lives a quiet life close to her parents and her siblings in Wales. But she's doing quite well. She always lived a quiet life, but didn't she?

Okay, and following Matt's example last week of a fucked report, but then some fun facts. I have some fun facts about whales The country or the animal My first one was about the animal you bastards Oh so sorry Now I'm not going to do it But I did have a joke one there about the animal whales And I was going to be like

That's the animal And then we were all going to have a good laugh And All right Let's pretend we didn't say it No I've got laugh I want to hear the whale fact Who was to hear the whale fact?

Yeah We love whales Nah, I'm alright. Take yourself over there for a minute. I think I can still hear you from there. Apparently you couldn't because you had no idea what we were talking about. Darrell and Shane Wakeland. This whole time.

Okay, my fun fact is that Blue Whales are pregnant for 10 to 12 months. Fun. Wait, Jess, put yourself in my shoes. Is that a fun fact? Yes. Yep. You've lost it. Do we think that was fun?

No. No. It's real fun having you here. I mean, out of all the blue whale facts, I mean, the one about the one that their heart's the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. How about you do a fucking report then? The heart is the size of a Volkswagen Beetle, isn't that fun? That's a fun fact.

Thank you. Thank you. Did you know that Matt... Sorry. Sorry. So sorry. Sometimes I was like this bad boy persona Just got a little too far

Pesona Did you know that Mount Everest Was named after a Welshman Sir George Everest That's fun I didn't know who knew that I didn't say it was fun That's fun

Is that fun? You get to say this word Oh you can get fucked Why is it named after him? Who knows? Probably Sir George Everest knows Okay Okay.

Remember my fun facts last week? They caused explosions. There was an earthquake in this room. Okay, I got two more. This one's just vaguely interesting. Wait, they were the good ones? On a scale of one to George Everett as kind of as this. I mean, I could just stop.

I'll just stop. No, no. Too fucking easy. All right. Imagine if they'd just gone, yeah, stop. I'm such a youngest child. I'm like, fine, I won't do it. I'm bad.

Okay, so the... I know this... My uncle Tim is Welsh. That's not the fun fact, relax. That feels more fun than the Everest fact. I didn't know that about Jess. I didn't know that. I have a Welsh uncle.

My cousin Finn has this party trick where he can pronounce the name of the town. The longest town name in Welsh. It's like 58 letters. I'll spell it for you now. It's so fun. Get fucked. Okay.

It's L-L-L-A-N-F-A-R-E-R-N-F-A-R-G-E-O-G-E-R-N-G-E-R-N-D-R-B-W-E-O-G-E-H. B-O-B-W-4-L's A-N-T-Y-S-I-L-I-O-G-O-G-O-G-O-C-H It sounds... No, it sounds like this. D-E----------------------------------------------------. It sounds like one of the twins had her heart attack and then fell on the typewriter. They were calling out for help.

Yeah. Is there one more? No. That was fun. That was fun. That was fun. That was really fun. That was a fun one.

That was a fun one. Isn't spelling fun? Explosively fun. Oh, wow. Oh. How do you communicate like that? It's like, was that through your power of your mind that you made Webby do that?

I gave him the secret signal which was. felt mature. Smooth. Ladies and gentlemen, that was a great report. Can we have a big round of applause for Ms. Jess Perkin? That was great.

I enjoyed that extremely sad story. How about you, Matt? I'm feeling flat, to be honest. That was rough. Thanks, Matt. Usually we debrief off-mic, but anyway. No, I was very fascinating.

Yeah, yeah, cool. I know, I liked it. I liked it a lot. I liked a lot. Yeah, awesome. Cool, man. I'm just remembering that June's listening right now, and I just want to say thank you for everything you've done. Is that making it better?

Dave, Dave, wrap this shit up. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of this week's episode. Could we please have a big round of applause for the European Beer Cafe for Holiness? Jeremy Webb on sound. Bianca Praslan helping out with his shirts. We got Shane Don't love the man on the camera. Thank you, Shane.

Thank you so much for coming out. Until next week, I will say goodbye. Later. Later. And that was arguably the greatest episode of Hugo on that has ever been recorded. I'd say the greatest episode. Period of anything period ever recorded period. Do you reckon?

Yes. Oh my God. That includes like, you know, talking footy on a Monday night. And there's been hundreds of episodes of that. Heaps. Oh, thank you. That's really nice. And as always, we just wanted to pop back in.

because this show, you know, like it wouldn't exist without your support. And we do like to thank every week. We like to thank a few people who pledged us on Patreon, which you can do if you'd like. You can hear your name now and a lot of other benefits too. You have things like extra episodes every month now. We're going to do, from this month on, we're doing two bonus Patreon episodes every month. Yeah, that's heaps. That's huge.

So exciting. I just got an email. Wow. Is that someone now going two episodes? Yeah. Jeez, that's a quick email. I know. They're pretty speedy.

So we would like to thank some people. So this episode, it was about twins. Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking. Okay. Did you just have an idea? No, no, I want to. I was thinking we could, so that this episode was about identical twins.

I was thinking for each person that we thank here, we could give them the name of their identical twin. Okay, great. You know, so June and Jennifer will give them their twin. Perfect. It'd be really cool if any of these people are twins and we nail it. And we should also give them their quirk. Yeah, okay, because these were silent twins. All right, great, okay.

So may I start? You please do. Thank you so much. From Woodbury, Pennsylvania, I would like to thank, this is a great name. Noah Over. That is a great name. Noah Over. Noah over.

Which, in an American accent, doesn't, because Noah Over is a bit, it sounds silly, in our accent, but it'd be like Noah over. Noah over. In our accent, it sort of sounds like. Noah over. It's really silly. Sorry, Noah. It almost sounds a bit like an Italian. Noah over. Yeah, it's got that sort of bouncy rhythm. Yeah, you're right, it's bouncy.

What would Noah's identical twins name be? Well, I assume they're all all literative. They don't have to be, but it does work best if they are. I think Noah and Ned. Nora and Ned. Ned over. And what a Noah and Ned. and Ned known for? They are the happy horse riding twins.

Wow, okay. Everywhere they go. They're riding horses and they're happy about it. Yeah. Great. Yeah, they're known all over town. Good for Noah and Ned. Yeah.

Okay, great. Well, thank you, Noah and your identical twin brother, Ned. Well, should I do the next one then? Yeah, sure. Go for it. We'll take turns. Turnsies. I'd love to thank from Norfolk in Great Britain.

Nick Spacey. Oh, if I may, I was going to say Kevin Spacey, but controversial. And you wanted to keep it alliterative. Nick and Nathan. Nick and Nate. Nick and Nate, Spacey. And they are the flatulent twins.

Really? Yeah. The farty boys. Fottie boys. But nobody's mad at it. They know how to farty. We were talking before about how influential Broden's voice is And ever since I've noticed I've done like three times

Yeah On these are going Oh, the farty boys It is very fun I understand why people do it Can you do a bro? We do this all the time I do a Broden Kelly

Oh I'm Broden Kelly Oh my brother Um Yes thank you Nick Your legend thanks so much I would like to thank from Lancashire, Tyler O'Brien.

Tyler O'Brien, that's a good name. That feels right to me. Tyler and... Todney. Obviously. Tyler and Todney, O'Brien. Todney O'Brien. Todney O'Brien.

Tyler and Todney, and what are they? They are... They're the Slydy boys. Slydy boys. Whenever they enter a... situation, they slide in on their knees. Cool. Do they just have permanently scabby knees?

They've got very scabby knees, but that was early on. Now, it's like a callus. And they're now a shiny callus, and it actually enhances their slides. Yeah. That's a lesson, isn't it? Just stick with it. Yeah. Your body will adapt.

It will. That's great. Thanks, Tyler. Although I know a female Tyler. So it could be Tyler and Tiffany. Just as a backup in case this Tyler or O'Brien is a female. Oh, because it's got to be identical. Identical twins.

And we've had this discussion before, and it got complicated. It did. It's possible. So, but we've covered all bases there. Yeah, we're fine. Okay. But I'm pretty sure it's Tyler and Todney. Okay, yeah.

But you never know. I just want to be sure. And then finally, this is another cracking name. We've had some good names, eh? A bit a little closer home from Australia. Oh. New South Wales, Australia. Very good.

From East Coromal. Coromal. Sorry, did the Coromal gong, as we always do. Hasn't come up before because I don't think we've ever mentioned coromal before. But anyway, Kim Hill is from Coramol. Kim Hill, that's a sweet name. That's a great name a lot. Good job, Kim.

Kim. Kim and Kanye. I'm like Kanye, that's it. Kim and... Because Kim is also a unisex name. Yeah, but all I can think of is the Kardashians right now because all of them have K names. Right.

Is that so? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Chloe, Kendall. Chloe with a K. Kylie, yep. That's wild. Kim.

That family is off the hook. They are off the hook. Can you think of one for Kim? Kim and... Can I say Kate? Well, yeah, Kim and Kate or Kim and Cardi. Cardi. Okay.

Short for Kardashian. Okay. Or, uh, crater face. No. Kylie. Kang. Kang. Crang.

The bad guy from Tenagement Ninja Turtles. The sort of brain with arms. I don't think that's Kim and Krang. Identical swim. Okay. If that's what you want it to be. Well, no, this is your, I think this is your, your hook. I'm just going to say Kim and

Corinne with a K. Kim and Corinne. Kim and Corinne. Oh, that's nice. Corinne Hill, that's nice. What's their thing? Their thing is they are the, um, uh, they're very, they're very stylish. Right. They will buy clothes. Wow. Wear them once. Right. Wash them. Wear them again. Wow. So they wash them in between. Yeah, yeah, you thought I was going to say, they'll chuck them out and never will. No, they're very savvy. Very environmentally friendly.

Yeah, absolutely. But they just got good style, you know, like. They won't stink up clothes and go again. They don't do a sniff test. No sniff, no need. They'll just wash it anyway. They just know. Wow.

Yeah. Do their clothes deteriorate quicker because of that? I mean, that's kind of, I mean, they follow the instructions on all of their clothing. I'd almost say that's pretty normal to wash your clothes after wearing them. Get out of town. I do. I must admit, I wear my jeans multiple times. No, it's okay with jeans.

Okay. Why is that? I don't know. Studies have shown. Wow. It's fine. That's great. Isn't it?

That's real good news. You can go months without washing your jeans and it's fine. Like the song by the band, Magic Dirt. I haven't washed my jeans in three months or more. It's fine. You're an ordinary boy and. That's the way I like it. I don't know why I'm singing like that.

I don't know either. I'm not nailing it. So yeah, thank you to Noah, Nick, Tyler and Kim, and obviously your identical twins. Yes, especially Todney. Todney. Thank you for supporting the show. It feels weird doing this with that, Dave, but I'm also kind of like, I'm nailing this. Yeah.

He's a distraction. We don't need him. Donate him. Hopefully he listens. He won't. He won't. Yeah, thank you for supporting the show. I hope you enjoyed the live show.

We've got two more to go with the Comedy Festival. Please come along to those. We should also say, when we say we had some things. Oh, yeah. I'm coming up to Sydney. Hopefully Sydney people listen all the way to the very end. I was meant to say this at the start, but I fucked that up. But anyway, I'm coming to Sydney on the 12th of, what's the next month?

May. May. 12th of May, I think it's whatever the Saturday around that time is. But you can check details out on Matt. What's my website? Matt Stewart Comedy. That's jurekommity.com slash gigs. So I'm doing my pretty, what's the fuck?

Dry ginger mail. Jesus. Dry ginger mail show at the giant dwarfs. I'm really good forward to that. So it'd be sick if any Sydney people who listen would want to come along. That would be great. It's a big old room. So I'd love to have you in there and have a beer afterwards.

For sure. And I also wanted to just mention, if you're not already a member of the Facebook group that is Planet Broadcasting Great Mate. It's a really fun group where people kind of discuss all sorts of different things across planet broadcasting and all the different pods and also just kind of some general stuff too. And I'm going to be doing a live Facebook video on Friday at 9 a.m. Melbourne time. I think off the top of my head is like midnight in London. The information's on there anyway. But yeah, so I'm going to be doing that Friday morning, so probably your Thursday night.

You should definitely check it out. I'm going to be answering your questions. So if you've got any questions for me, jump on there and you can check it out. So good. I watch some of Mesa's one where he was in front of a fake fire on a TV. So if I'm wearing a jacket. God, he's fancy. He's a fancy man.

I will have probably just gotten up. So I will not be looking fancy. Be sitting on a couch. You wake up fancy looking, Jess. I do. We've rambled enough at you. So thank you for listening. We'll see you next week.

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