Two In The Think Tank - 132 - The Drowning of Natalie Wood

Episode Date: May 2, 2018

One of the most tragic and mysterious Hollywood deaths was the drowning of Natalie Wood. This week we look at her early life as a child star as well as her tragic death... which the boys had no idea about in the first place. You can also support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes at www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSuggest a topic: https://dogoonpod.com/submit-a-topic/Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Woodhttp://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/natalie-woods-1981-drowning-investigated-as-suspicious/news-story/4ff84fa30c8d81b4f2ab37ece387a3b1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiVhT1MpC8chttps://www.biography.com/people/natalie-wood-9536320http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hollywood-mystery-what-really-happened-the-night-natalie-wood-died/news-story/ec4c61c4464354150ef2f2e12caf8299 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Parkour. I think the only way to make it cool is to pronounce it as I did for about five years is parkour. Parkour. Oh dear. Oh dear. Parkour. Guys, I'm just going to go do some parkour.

Gosh. That didn't get my peers respect. Weird. But then I said parkour. Suddenly, they't get my peers respect. Weird. But then I said parkour. Suddenly, they're on board with my lifestyle choices. And suddenly, you look down, you were going to cool leather jacket. Oh, I'm like, yeah, looking down. I was wearing my waist.

Oh, leather condom? Leather jacket. Yeah, I call condoms leather jackets. Oh, I don't like that at all. Because safe sex is cool. Safe sex is cool. Thank you. But they shouldn't be leather. Oh, OK.

Big to differ. Because there's different kind of skin. Come on. I know this is gonna ride real quick. Yes, sorry. Real quick. But it is nice to be back in the Stupid Old Studio. It is good to be back.

That's not the derogatory term. We're not saying the studio is stupid and old. That is the name of the... I mean, there's more of a coincidence. The production company that we are part of. Yes. What's good to be back? But I don't.

I honestly had so much fun on those live shows over the last month. Maybe the... Yes, so much fun. I've enjoyed all of them to be honest because I'm so sorry. Those last four were fucking sick. I'm so pumped to do more live shows. Yeah, absolutely. They were, they were absolutely, they were awesome. Those people were so nice. The crowds were into it. And out for it straight from the start, which just makes it so much, you know, easy to have fun. And we thanks to everyone that came out.

We did, we did film them as well, which we're releasing on. Yeah, we're definitely releasing a few of them publicly and we might hold some of them for patrons. I'm not even really figuring that out. Yeah. I think they should go to the Patreon supporters first. Certainly. Anyway, I know some people don't like listening to the live ones, but we make a lot of effort

to get it and sounding really good. So, if you're afraid of going to listen to some crappy live recordings, it's not like that at all. It sounds great. Sweet audience. Good volleys. So, go back and look. And the reports were all really interesting as well.

I reckon they were four of our best reports from this year. Yeah, very varied, but a lot of death, which the audience loves. They love death. Literally cheering for death. And we've got a new thing where we're going to try and get into the episodes quicker, in the little reports quicker in the studio. Okay, yeah, good point. But before we do, I thought the plug, my love show and Sydney on the 12th of May, and you can get a discount code if you go to buy the tickets at mattesjewetcomedy.com slash gigs.

Gigs. Every time. Not fuck, don't put fuck at the end there, just gigs, slash gigs and use the code. Do go on, you just have to follow the link there. It would be so good to see you there on Sydney, but Jess, what's the question to get us onto a topic here today? I'm glad you asked Matthew. My question for you gentlemen is, who's real name is Natalia Nikolivna Zakarenko? I like these ones because I know all the ones I'm thinking like Elven John's got a different name, but I don't think it's that.

Okay, you know, we're gonna get down early, that's interesting. Maybe. I will confirm, nor deny. What about like the blue power ranger? Blue power ranger. I don't think that was their birth name. Blue power ranger. Good point.

It's not the blue power ranger. Okay, so Natalie Portman. It is not Natalie Portman. Oh, the way she said it is. Yes, it is. It is. It is. That was the end of the comment. It's not Natalie. It is. Natalie Portman is what I would say if it was,

Natalie Portman, but it's not. It's Natalie. Oh, Natalie, Natalie Basingthway. It is not Natalie Basingthway. Of course. Although she comes up in this, weirdly. What? Natalie Embrolier. Not Natalie Embrolier. Not Australian. Not Malayda Inbrulea. Not Natalie Inbrulea, not Australian.

Not Malayda for neighbours at all. Not related to neighbours. We can hear about basing Twakia. No, no. How is that possible? I know. Which is an Australian singer. What are the odds of that?

Okay, I'm trying to think some more Natalie's, I know. So we were mentioning before how our live shows had a lot of death in them. This one has a death as well. A rather famous death. Princess Diana. No, her name was Diana, I'm fairly certain. And this one's name's Natalie. Thinking actress.

Oh, something of a... Natalie, what's Kidman's name? Nicole. Nicole. And she's not dead. Okay. So, American. American. Natalie.

Basing sweat. Again. Imagine if you changed your name to Basing sweat. I can't say it. It's a shocker. You say it again, it's Basing sweat. Do you want me to tell you? She had all related to the Rogue Twaters.

The Rogue Twaters, no. Which is. What about an actress who famously drowned. Jeff Buckley. D-Dram. Yeah. He did one for a dip. Tee-ee.

Caught up in a... Why did I know that? That's weird. A boat's a... I just assumed drugs. A good, I think I'm actually in a lot of em both. Maybe in drinking, I believe. I get correct.

So was this Natalie. Actually, I think it was fully cloned as well. It was hard to swim in the clothes. If you're not sure. Can you give me a letter? This must be fucking serious. Yeah, yeah. That's just a give it to us.

Do you want to let, no, I have a letter. You might get it. W. Natalie, Walsh. No. What? What's this? Wood.

Walsh. Natalie, Walsh. Don't know who that is. You don't know Natalie Wood? She's from Popstar Season 2. She from Scandalus. So Scandalus? So you don't know, if you don't know who that means you don't have the story. No. Oh, that's exciting. I thought you would know. Can I ask if it's got anything to do with the guy from Austin Powers? Robert Wagner?

Yeah. Yes. Okay. That's all I know. But I don't know. I couldn't remember if he was in Austin Powers or not. Was he? Number two.

Right. It was the original number two, I think. Anyway, I like our Dave doesn't know and I only know. Yeah, this is great. I was like, you have known this one. Oh, excellent. Okay, it's exciting because this is a pretty famous case. So I'm. I feel like a maybe over here. Yeah, I'm that's what I'm thinking

I'm fine. That's I'm flying not related not related because her last name is a herenko. Oh, of course and wood and then wood. Okay, so I'll tell you I'll tell you firstly This was suggested by by Henry and that what he said his topic was the drowning of Natalie Woods boilers. Sorry, I figured you'd know that because again Very famous case. Well, you didn't know Jeff Buckley drowns So, but I knew he's dead. Okay, and I knew he's I feel a loss because I've discovered this woman exists and then I immediately lost her Yeah, yeah, she lost her and then you discovered her. Yeah, that's harder. God reality is tragic isn't it? Like I knew I Think I knew before I heard Jeff Buckley music that he had died

So when I you know loved his music as like oh, at least I know he's dead. Yeah I don't have to now find that out and be sad, you know I don't I'm not like googling like I wonder if he's touring Australia soon. Oh my god Like they say it's just, yeah. Like they say it's better to have lost and loves than never to have lost at all. Totally. No.

Is that day card? I think that was day card. What's one of the cards? Aaron Carter. Aaron Carter. Sorry, I was confused. I was too. Take out now, Carla.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Little, okay. So, Natalia, Niko, Vin, Zach, okay. Oh. Little. Okay. So Natalia, Niko Van Merser, okay. Okay. Was born on the 20th of July 1938. She was born in San Francisco to Russian and Ukrainian immigrant parents. Her mother was Maria.

And her father was Nikolai. Good name. Nikolai is a good name. Nikolai Devadenko. Oh, great tennis player. Is that who your dad was? No. Okay. Nicolai quite a common name. Huh. But also Devadenko. The Tennis player, yes. Wow.

That is fascinating. Oh, boy, I've lost you early. So many coincidences in this story. Nicolai was a son of two Ukrainians from Kerkiv, which was then part of the Russian Empire. And Nikolai was, sorry, and Maria was born in the Russian Far East. As a child, Nikolai... China. Well, that comes into a later. As a child, he immigrated with his mother and two brothers to Montreal, and then later to San Francisco,

where he worked as a laborer and a carpenter. The city by the way, the city that never sleeps. No. Isn't that London? I could have all switched a route. Fargo, all cylinder's bleeding. I cannot see how this is coming back to Beth and Slate. I know.

Good luck to you, Jess. Good luck. I'm going to blow your fucking mind. Fun fact at the end or something? Not. Early. Anyway. How is that possible?

I'll tell you later. Decades before she was born. Amazing. Natalia's mother, Maria, had moved to China with her mother after the death of her father. There you go. I predicted that as well. He said that. In China, Maria married a guy called Alexander Tatulof and had a daughter Olga in 1927. Now somewhere between 1927 and 1938 couldn't find a lot of information. Maria ended up in America and married Natalie's father, Nicolai. I don't know. There was a first marriage. She had already had a daughter Olga. Right, right, right, in China. In China. And then somehow ended up in America.

Love it. That's great. I did multiple Googles to try and find what happened there, nothing. In her youth, Maria had dreamed of becoming an actress or a ballet dancer, which were ambition she passed on to her middle daughter, Natalia. Bit of a forew warning about Maria here. Big old stage mum. Ooh, Tiger mum.

Oh yeah, she's terrified. Look hot little woman. Whatever I said last week. Look hot a young lady. Oh yeah. Natalia or Natasha, she was often referred to by her family. Conceasingly? Because it's like the Russian version. Natalia or Natasha, she was often referred to by her family. But she'singly.

Because it's like the Russian version. Oh, Natalia isn't Russian enough. Natasha. So she's Natalia, she's Natasha, she's a lot of things. She's hip, she's in. Give her the program, people. She later said, my mother used to tell me that the cameraman who pointed his lens out at the audience at the end of the Paramount news reel was taking my picture.

I'd pose and smile like he was going to make me famous or something. I believed everything my mother told me. Natalia was noticed by members of her film crew during a shoot in downtown Santa Rosa. Sounds like a mum wasn't lying after all. Yeah, well, I once you sort of got into acting some studio execs, some big wigs, your type, Dave. Sydney Shimburg. Sydney Shimburg. That does wear big wigs.

Yeah, it's weed, isn't it? It's weed. Because he's got hair. I know. It's got that hat hair from the wig. I'm always wearing a wig. This isn't natural. Only privately wears a wig. From always wearing a wig. This isn't natural. I only privately wear a wig, and every time I take the wig off,

but I don't adjust my hair. I just let that wig hair. That's what I do. I wear helmet at all times. Then when I leave the house, I take off my helmet. I've got a real sweaty top and then it puffs out at the east.

That's a good look. I know that 90 it puffs out of the ears. Must be good. Look, must be good. I don't know that 90% of accidents happen within the home. So that's why you should always wear a helmet at home. Just in case. In the bed. I'm never falling out of bed. Well, I have, but I hurt myself because I was wearing a wig.

I was getting a padded wig. How? Why my name? Should have been wearing it. Should have been wearing it. May wig. Do you want a may wig? I've got some.

Got some here. I said, take walks around hairy knees. I haven't hurt my knee in years. That's what, it wasn't, big foot wasn't a hoax. It was just a very safety-minded man walking through the forest. I don't want to get hurt. I'm going on a bush walk. Why are you filming me?

I could, I could roll my ankle if I wasn't wearing these ankle leaks That's so stupid Feeling like audible laughs out of that. That's exciting. Oh, that's stupid. Okay, so she started to get into acting and some studio execs, some Sydney shinebergs, have suggested they change Natalia's name to Natalie Wood. Let's make it wider. So her first name is Natalie Wood. Her first name is Natalie Wood.

They kept that crazy last night. Natalie Wood. Natalie Wood, Dev would definitely go, was Carlio, ooh, ooh. Oh, look, if you put Natalie wouldn't find that, just rolls off the top. Oh, it's that. Ooh, ooh, ooh.

That close. It gives you my momentum. You got my momentum up top. He was eight rolling through. He was eight rolling through. He was rolling. People are once they get going, you'll be surprised how easy it is. For now it's a crazy mess. That's the key to Russian. Start in English.

You speak Russian in no time. That is phenomenal. Okay. So she's not only wood now. She's not only wood now. She's a classic name. She's a great name. It's so boring.

It shouldn't be a film star name, though. But I feel like people now, I can't really think of that many examples. But I feel like people now are kind of owning having different names. Yeah. You don't change your name to something a bit more basic. Right, sure. Is that Australian actress who played Alice in Wonderland? She's got a cool surname with the W.

Yeah, she's an in-skill something at the end, isn't it? Yeah. Park, I'm sorry. I do know who you're talking about. I can't think of her name. I don't know who you're talking about, and I can tell you her name. Wow. I don't know. OK're talking about, and I can tell you, Hannah. Wow.

I don't know. Okay, so just before Natalie turned five, she made her film debut, so she's a four-year-old. Oh, I suggested to change her name at four years old. Yeah, she was that little. Were you imagining a teen? I was imagining a teen. I was imagining it like a 22-year-old.

No, she was a child, actress. So, say to a four-year-old girl, we get from now on, you're Natalie Wood. Your name's not good enough. It is a struggle. What a world. She's already been a ballet dancer and now she's noticed by exec.

No, Mum wanted to be a ballet dancer and write. Or an actress. So, she was like, you know, like many people who don't achieve things in their own lives, they force it upon their children, you know? Mm-hmm. So, I want to be a dancer, so I never made it,

my kid will definitely be a dancer. Yeah, my kid will play basketball for Australia. Great. Yeah. Mia Wazikapska. Thank you, yes. Mia, yeah. Who's that, sorry?

That's the Australian actress. Oh, right. That's cool. Cool name. That is a cool name. I'm not good names in general, but that one I remembered once I googled it. Oh. Okay, so she's made a film to review. She's in a scene in the 1943 film, Happy Land, her scene lasted for about 15 seconds.

That's good. That's the kind of scene I like to do. Yeah. In a line that I can remember. One day. you get these experience, you get the catering, but it never gets old because you're only there for one or two days. Yes. Exactly. I'm despite the short amount of screen time. She caught the attention of the director, Irving Pichal. And he telephoned Woods mother a while later asking her to bring her daughter to Los Angeles for a screen test for a different role. Her mother became so excited that she packed the whole family up

to Los Angeles to live. They all moved to LA. For an audition. For an audition. Not even on a screen test. They're going. That is, I thought you were saying I'm gonna say so excited

that they brought the whole family over for the afternoon. For the afternoon. For the weekend, and that would have sounded wild. No. Like, move. She quit her job. Upper root of the family. They saw the house.

How do you think her dad felt about that? Did he move too? Oh, yeah. At the time, it would have been like, this is wild. But it sounds like it turned out like she knew what she was talking about. At least for a little bit. For the death bit. Yeah, her father was like, no, but his wife's overpowering ambition to make Natalie a star

took priority. So they moved. So this is a couple of years later. So Natalie was seven by now. And she got the part. She played a post-World War II German orphan. Opposite Orson Wells is her guardian. Okay, that's a serious star power.

Yeah, and the film was the 1946 film, tomorrow is forever. I'm also well-slaiders said that Natalie was a born professional and he said so good she was terrifying as a seven-year-old. She must be stopped. She's terrifying. After she acted in another film directed by the same director, Irving Pitchell, her mother signed her off with 20th Century Fox studio for her first major role, which was the 1947 Miracle on 34th Street, not the 1994 version. Oh, I was gonna say not the one with the guy from that other show. Oh, the girl from Matilda.

Yeah, now this is 1947. A lot of name dropping on these episodes. Yeah, and it became a Christmas classic as it still is, but probably the 94 version. I think it kind of you know how now they do like remakes of films within a couple of years of the original. At least this one was like, you know, 30 years apart, longer than that, much longer than 30. I'm bad at math. Okay, 50. 50 years later. She worked constantly and consistently over the following years appearing in over 20 films during her childhood. 20 films as a kid. Well, you laughed at the family for moving, Matt.

Now look at her. How many films are you in as a kid, Dave? Before you go running your mouth. I wasn't in any. I was in one commercial. Where are you? Yeah. Did we know this?

Which we could try and dig it out. It's on videotape and parents house somewhere. What? What for? Do you remember the ad? Which you might just because it was so annoying. Oh my God. Kids singing hit that switch Mitch. Or way to go Joe. Yeah. Do you remember that? What was it for? It was just like saving energy. So it's just like all the things that you should do to save energy. But it was terrible rhyming. Kids singing. And at

the end, it said, the futures in our hands and my head came down, my giant forehead, and sort of blocked the top half of the screen. I'll try to get a copy. Oh my God, that's so good. Yeah, get a fun that, we'll upload that. I'd love to see it again, I haven't seen it for over 50 years. What was your line? That little bit of overlay of like kids having fun and then the features in our hands at

the end was my main bit. Oh my God. Good for you, Dave. Thank you. Do you get paid a lot for that? $1,200. Oh God. Which at the time when you're 11 is so much money.

That's a lot of money. And just sat in my dollar mites account. Oh. The little a lot of money. And just sat in my dollar mites account, the little accruing interest. Yeah, so I think over the next, you know, nine years before I got the account at 18, eight years or so, was about $22 interest. That's more than 26-year-old Jess had in her savings account. Thank you. Not to brag. I'm 27 now. Don't worry, you're a millionaire now. She went from zero to a million in one year. Absolutely.

Yeah. Jess, how many? Triple digits. Did you do ads? No, I didn't do any ads. Matt, you were child star, we all know that. No, I didn't do anything. I was in, I think the only time I was on TV was when I was in the audience of Sal of

the Century. Oh, yes. And you're on TV was when I was in the audience of Zelda Century. Oh, yes. And you're in school on a school. Tell us about that. So I meant a school excursion. And we were sitting, or I was sitting right behind the carryover champs wife. So they kept showing her in the audience and they got her to chat because they recalled five episodes in a day.

They've recalled the week in a day, just bang, bang, bang. So she had to change, the contestants had to change and she also had to change clothes each day from memory so that it would look like, but we're still sitting in the exact same spot in uniform. They didn't even move you. They didn't shuffle us or anything. Oh, so good. It's like those kids are just there every day. That's lazy teaching. What did they win? A Fisher and Michael microwave valued at $97. I don't know.

I think he was cleaning up. Really? Yeah. Maybe almost went all the way, which is like a car and a big cash jackpot. One of my hobbies is looking at price showcases from 80s and 90s game shows. It's so fun. Because what they're winning is stuff that you now see on people's lawns for 100.

Yeah, yeah, and they're so excited to win it. Yeah, the, oh my God. But it's driving a car that you'd been embarrassed to give your 18 year old fruit for their first car. But that's not even because it's the 80s and 90s. That's just how time works, Dave. Yeah, no, but I love that. I love it.

It's not like the shit we have now. Our kids will be like, whoa. I also think about that. love that. I love it. It's not like the shit we have now. Our kids will be like, whoa. I also think about that. It's going to be so shit. It's just so good. We think like love that. You love that we just throw away so much stuff and our land is weeping with tears

and heaving at the seams from overfilling of our landfills. Well, I mean, you paraphrasing me a bit, but yes. Like we think smartphones are so amazing, and our kids would just have like microchips in their brains. I don't know, probably not. They'll probably have smartphones and be like, like when they thought in 2000, we'd have like hover cars, I don't know.

Anyway, shall I go back to the report? Yes, please. Okay, great. Let's do the one. So she's done 20 films as a child. The director of Miracle on 34th Street said she had an instinctive sense of timing and emotion. Many actors who worked with her testified to her professionalism and grit.

There was near universal agreement that the camera loved her. Oh, I love that. I love the camera loving someone. Camera loves you. The camera loves you, baby. Tell your mic a measure. The camera did not love that. I love the camera loving someone. Camera loves you. The camera loves you, baby. Tell your mic, I'm sure the camera did not love me. Well, Dave, we know you as a human, so we know that to be true. I agree that though. I became lovable. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, no, I know. There is no way that they finish having an end frame finishing on your head alone. It's not the camera didn't love you. Not my head alone, but I am a large part of it.

The top one. Is that just because of the large forehead? Yeah. Okay. Which amazingly was also large of that. Well, you haven't grown into your fart. I don't like most kids do. Yeah.

That's not, you've got a teeny tiny head mat. I said mat. You got a teeny tiny head mat. Sorry, he said mat. You got a teeny tiny head mat. Sorry, I was just going to give myself a good tool. I love you, Matt. So, I'm going to do it. Don't panic, Matt. He's doing great, Matt.

Don't worry what they say. You got a little head mat. It's my mantra. That's how I get to sleep at night. Oh, it's my mantra. It's my mantra. It's my mantra. Okay, shut up. Yes, please, this must be fucking tedious.

Okay. Shit and people off are wrecking. Yes, Dave. It's all gold. You're wiggling your finger at us. I'm saying stop that. Stop talking badly. So, California law required that until the age of 18,

child actors had to spend at least three hours per day in a classroom, so they'd have like tutors on set with them. So, she started several films set in classrooms? She was an excellent student, actually, but she herself said, I always felt guilty when I knew the crew was sitting around waiting for me to finish my three hours. As soon as the teacher let us go, I ran to the set as fast as I could. She was a little hard worker.

I'm sure that they were doing a lot of other things in that time, like setting up for the shot. Anyway. I was so you're like smoking bombs. Oh, yeah. Dave. Dave, is that what you were saying? Well, they hit and bongs. Yes. Paraphrasing again, but absolutely right.

Well, so I thought it was cute because she's quite a hard worker, but the reason for that is that early on, it was drummed into her that the family's fortune rested solely on her. Oh, we moved at the age of four for you. Yeah. And the result that what compelled Natalie to act was not the desire to perform, it was a compulsion to please, as she wants to please it. And I did kind of talk earlier about her mum being a real stage mum. There's actually a, I remember seeing a, what I thought was a, made for TV film, turns out

it was a mini series, about Natalie Wood. And I remembered vividly, I was rewatching it again on YouTube. I remembered this scene where like five-year-old Natalie has to cry in a scene and her mom like drags over and was like if we need this job or we can't pay rent like she was really laying into this kid and then oh it gets worse she pulls out I don't know I mean I'm assuming this is based in reality but it is you know a fictionalized kind of thing she pulls out a jar that has a butterfly in it And she's like look is a butterfly and the little girl's like yay And then she rips the wings off his butterfly No fucking way and then Natalie goes and does her seeing where she has to drop her ice cream and cry and these little girls just cry

Stereically and then at the end of the scene just the man put the wings back on the butterfly Sure, yeah, thank you and the like, ah, that was a bit unfortunate, but I understand you had to do that to get the best performance out of Natalie. I'll see you next week. That is horrific. Yeah, it's fucked. This, yeah, this, this has the, everything a bit, I mean, so far, this is obviously a tragedy, but we know there's a good ending. Exactly. Which is what Matt Pangan out for.

Yeah, and I just wanted to mention as well with that mini series, is that at one stage, Marilyn Monroe is in it chatting to young Natalie Wood. And I was like, that person looks awfully familiar. It was Sophie Monk playing Marilyn Monroe. Ah, that makes sense. She got to start as a Marilyn Monroe impersonator. Then I saw later in the program, Rachel Taylor was in there.

I was like, that's weird. It's another Australian. And then a little bit later on, I got for Natalie Bassingthwait. No. He was in there as well. So I was like, what the fuck? There are so many Australians.

A pretty small column of Freel's was in as well. Sydney So I was like, what the fuck, there are so many Australians. I'm pretty sure Colin Freel's was in as well, Sydney. It was filmed in Sydney. A bunch of South African and Australian actors in it. Crazy. Crazy. But yeah, Sophie Monk, Marilyn Monroe. Anyway, so that's how Natalie Bessonthway comes into the court. You did it, baby.

That's so good. You fuckers will like, I don't know how you'll do this. Well, I would never have thought Natalie Bessing's weight would have come into any of our reports. But here we are. But here we are. Next week, I'm doing a report on rogue traders. Awesome, awesome band. Yo, I'm a voodoo, baby!

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It was about teenage rebellion. In fact, she was not an advertisement academy award for best supporting actress for a role. Right, that's work. Okay, then yeah, that's cool. And she graduated high school the next year, 1956. And after she done that, she signed with Warner Brothers and was kept busy during the remainder of the decade

in many girlfriend roles. She played a lot of girlfriends. Which she found kind of unsatisfying. So does that mean that the best friend of the main actress or the girlfriend of the main? Probably the girlfriend. Yeah, she'd be the girlfriend of a man, not like a- Like the leading man. Not a fun, yeah. Yeah, she'd be the girlfriend of a man, not like a... That's a leading man.

Not a fun, yeah. Okay, cool. Like, the role I would be cast and would be the funny friend. You know, I'm never the leading lady, and I'm never the other woman. I'm the funny friend, you know. Funny friend feels, is that a good role? Oh, I can want that role. Yeah.

Funny as well. Big time. Because that's the character who's, that's comic-que-leaf character. Yeah, and you're only there, again, you're on set for a shorter period of time because you don't know as many scenes But you fucking steal those scenes. I've changed yeah, I've changed my mind from before I want I want to be in every scene Yeah, okay About different 15 seconds to an hour and a half, please you want to be on in every scene big jump Oh, that's a lot of work and if anything I would be boring to watch If I'm the honest and no one else. I scene. It's a big jump. Ooh, that's a lot of work. And if anything, I would be boring to watch if I'm

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it's, it's, it's, it's an obscure one. Please, sorry. So she's unsatisfied in a girlfriend roles and she longs for more serious work and probably have the ability to do it, but she was hesitant to veer too far outside of the Hollywood mainstream. So every film is in my mind, this is a set torturing insects to inspire her. I believe so, even into her 20s, it's weird.

I hate that a lot. But who would do that a lot for? That's a bad person. I mean, you got to be pretty good to catch it. Grab it by the body and then get the wings off. But she also had it there ready to go. Yeah. She had it in the jar.

Premeditated. Yeah, it's pretty fucked. On Natalie's 18th birthday, she went on a... It says, a studio arranged date. I think it was like, have your people call my people. With the then 26 year old actor Robert Wagner. Oh, Robert she. Robert Wagner. She was 18. Okay. I think I feel like they would organize those and then try and get photos of them together so that the newspaper would print like all stories.

Is there two studio stars? Yeah. It used to be like that right that one a studio would sign contracts the actors and they'd do a certain amount of movies to them rather than yeah that's right. Yeah that's right. It's just to be more case by case. Yeah so she's signed with Warner Brothers when she was about 20 or when she finished high school so around this time. They'd seen each other around town around the acting community. In fact, Natalie had a crush on him since she was a child because he's a bit older than her. He said in an interview, this is much later, he said, at dinner we both sensed things were different. I sent her flowers and the dates continued. I remember the instant I fell in love with her.

One night on board a small boat I owned. All right, man. She looked at me with love, her dark brown eyes lit by a table lantern. That moment changed my life. Isn't that nice? First cinematic. Do you remember the moment you fell in love with me? Yes, it was a few weeks ago on my boat.

Ah, I remember well. That moment changed my life. They actually got married the next year in December of 1957. Her mother didn't approve of the marriage. I'm not really entirely sure why, whether it was the age difference or... He probably wasn't famous enough for her. Wasn't famous enough, or maybe she felt like she would lose control of her daughter if her daughter

was married, you know. Somebody else has got control of an M M M. After the 1960 film, all the fine young cannibals, their career started to lose a bit of momentum, or she felt she was losing a bit of momentum. So where the fine young cannibals, their name comes from? Possibly. Guess it does. And the Hollywood director, Elia Kazan, who was one of the most honored influential directors in Broadway and Hollywood history,

according to the New York Times. He wanted to interview Natalie for a role in his 1961 film, Splendor and the Grass. Oh, is that where the music festival name, Splendor and the Grass comes from? Presumably. That was going to be opposite Warren Beatty. He ignored people in the acting community who said Natalie was washed up and wanted to interview her anyway. Isn't she 22? Yeah, she's like 20. Been in the biz for who said Natalie was washed up and wanted to interview her anyway. Isn't she 22?

Yeah, she's like 20. Been in the biz for eight and years, though. Yeah. He cast her as the female ends blend in the grass and her career rebounded. Oh my god. That's 22. Yeah, she's back, baby. What did she go?

He felt that despite her earlier innocent roles, she had the talent and maturity to go beyond them. In the film, Warren Beaties' character was deprived of sexual love with Woods' character, and as a result, turns to another looser girl. Oh, gross. Is that your words? No, no. It's in inverted commas also. Okay, it's difficult to get that through the podcast.

Yeah, a looser girl. Not my words. These words. I don't know. Wherever I got this from. Natalie Wood. Her character could not handle the sexuality and after a breakdown was committed to a mental institution.

So it's a gritty role. For her performance in Swindle and the Grass, she received nominations for the Academy Award, Golden Globe, and BAFTA for Best Actress in a leading role. So she's kicking it in the dick. In 1961 she played Maria and Westside Story, which was a major box office for critical success. You may have heard of it. And she co-starred in the Slapsick comedy The Great Race in 1965 with Jack Lemon and Tony Curtis. Did you ever see that?

No. My parents had it on VHS and I didn't know until I was rereading it then that was Natalie Wood. But you know, Tony Curtis and Jack Lemon working together was always good and she plays this like, I'm pretty sure she plays a Russian character. Is it, what do you call it a romp? It's not a romp. That sort of sound familiar.

It's about a car race, it's sort of like Cannonball run or something like that. I think it's a car race or it's some kind of, I feel like they're in a hot air balloon at one point. It's a land race. Land race. From New York to Paris. New York to Paris, how's that work?

Yeah, especially by land. Change of age. I guess that's where the hot airblends come in. Maybe. Anyway, I remember watching it as a kid and it's a bit of a romp, you're right. So in 1964 she received her third Academy Award nomination for Love with the Proper Stranger, making her the second actress to net three Oscar nominations by the age of 25. And the only person who'd done that before was Teresa Wright, who'd won two awards in the 40s, so like 20 years earlier.

So she's 25 and killing it. Feelin' alive. 25. Feelin' alive. Jennifer Lawrence would probably be rival of that now. Oh yeah, good point. That's depressing. How old is Jay-law?

27. She's the same age as Dave and I. Well, she might have, I think she's January, so she may have already turned 28. She grows up so fast. Don't you? No, no. From Cat Piss Everdeen.

Yeah. Is that her name? Catness. Yeah, that's what I thought. It's a joke. I can help. Natalie and Robert Wagner separated in June of 1961, and they divorced in April of 62. And then a few years later,

on May 30, 1969, she made British producer Richard Gregson. They dated for a couple of years, about two and a half years prior to their marriage while Gregson waited for his divorce to be finalised. Gregson is one of the funniest, so-and-a-mys. It's Gregson. Very very funny. Gregson is so funny. is one of the funniest and I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very's no good. No. But the next year, after they'd separated,

she resumed her relationship with Robert Wagner, her first husband. He had also been married in between. He married actress Marion Marshall in July of 1963 and they had a daughter Katie and they divorced in 1971 after eight years of marriage and that's when Natalie and Robert got back together and they remarried again in July of 1972, ten years after their first divorce. So she married both men twice? No, she only married Greeks and ones. He was married before?

He was married before? In between. Robert Wagner was married. So this is the fourth wedding. Wagner and Wood. Wood and some guy, Wagner and Marion, Marmer. And then they got back together. Right.

Just trying to pay attention, mate. You're playing my role right now, Dave. No. Do you reckon you can pay attention? There's so many marriages going on. The point is, but she did married someone twice. Yeah, role wagna who she's married to now. Gotcha.

In the story. Okay. Go for a Boston Palace. Number two. So it was 10 years after their first divorce. It was only five months after they'd reconciled and three months after she divorced Gregson. So as soon as their divorce came through, she was like, let's get hitched. And then they had a daughter,

they first daughtered together, Courtney Wagner in 1974. So they'd been married before, divorce for 10 years got married again, then had a kid. Courtney Wagner, that's not bad. Pretty good, isn't it? Yeah. I like that. When she became a mum to her first child in the tassel,

she kind of went into semi-retirement. She focused on her family more than her acting career. She only acted in four more feature films in her life. She appeared on screen with her husband Robert Wagner and a couple of projects. One was a television movie of the week, which makes it sound. Not too good.

Not great. It's called The Affair. That was in 1973. They also started an adaptation of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof in 76. She made a cameo appearance on his prime time detective series Switch in 1978. Her character was Bubble Barth Girl. I've noted a few of these down because the role was good. She also in 1979 was on Heart to Heart as movie star. Oh man.

Pretty good. It's a multi Oscar-enominated actress. Yeah, they don't even give a character's name. The character's name, man. I think she appeared as herself in something as well. She had roles in a couple of films, but mostly flops. And she started to have a lot more success in her TV work. She actually got a Golden Globe for Best Actress in 1980

for her role in here to eternity. So she's still working, but she was just a bit more focused on my co-family. Then in late November 1981, the couple invited their friend Christopher Walken, ever heard of him. Oh, he's involved, yes. Oh, interesting.

He co-starved Natalie in a brainstorm. They invited him for a trip on the family's yacht, which was called Splendor, off Santa Catalina Island in California. The only other person on board, the boat, was its skipper, Dennis DeVern. Oh, that was gonna be Dennis Hopper. Oh, that would be great.

But they make him drop the boat. No talking. So they got the couple, Christopher walking in the skipper, and that's it. And the rest. And the rest and the rest There's two more characters It's Dennis Hopper come on give him some fucking credit easy rider funnily enough

You say easy rider yeah, okay this next sentence is amazing then just Often what I am on November 28, 1981, Wagner, radio to boat nearby. That boat was called Easy Rider. Oh, that is wild. He said, he said, Easy Rider, are you cruising in the vicinity? You got him right, I'm cruising. I said, no. Well, this is splendor. We think we may have someone missing in an 11 foot rubber dinghy. Oh We think we may have someone yeah, I mean there's only four of you do a quick account. They're serious now That feels like they're not Yeah half an hour later the sea was lit from the beams of harbour patrol boats. It was there

but boats of the bay watch. And Coast Guard helicopter searching for the missing actor. Natalie was gone. In a rubber D. In a rubber D. At 7.30am the following day, helicopter was on its way to join the search when suddenly one of its crews spotted a red object in the sea below and directed the pilot to move closer. Face down in a flannel nightgown, red jacket and blue socks floated the body of Natalie Wood, less than two kilometres from the splendor. The dinghy was found beached nearby. After her body was found, Wagner told police that his wife had gone to bed before him and he didn't notice she was missing until he went to their bedroom sometime after midnight and noticed she wasn't there. Later, Wagner, Walken, and DeVern told investigators

that would took off in a dinghy and went ashore, even though it was well known that she was terrified of water. I suppose you'd want to go ashore to get away from the water. That's fair, yeah. This is from an article in Variety, this is this little thing here about, because there's a lot of unknowns with this investigation and a lot of things that holds in the story. So Suzanne Finstad,

who wrote a biography of Natalie Wood, points out that the most disconcerting piece of this case is the commonly accepted theory that Wood went down the ladder at the back of the boat and onto the swim step, possibly to board the dinghy, which makes no, like it's all in defiance of her lifetime fear of water. From early childhood, Woods' mother had filled her with a fear of dark water because a fortune teller had prophesized that Maria would drown and she transferred this and many other fears

onto her child. Oh, wow. So she convinced Natalie that you will drown. When filming the green promise is a 10-year-old, she was terrified to play a scene in which she had to cross a bridge over raging water. The bridge was rigged to collapse the moment she reached safety.

So she was supposed to get across the bridge. Her mother assured her that it would be perfectly safe, but when she got to the midpoint of the bridge, it collapsed and she was thrown into the water barely cleaning on to part of the bridge. I mean, it's in a controlled set, but they still real rushing water And she's afraid of it and she's terrified of water. That would really if it's feeling like the Truman show Yeah But made him fear water and then whenever we went close they made it fucked. Yeah, just It's a bit like that and the director yelled keep the cameras rolling and and whenever it went close, they made it fucked. Yeah. Just having a phone. Yeah.

It's a bit like that. And the director yelled, keep the camera's rolling and filmed her struggling through the water and she got to the edge and pulled herself out. But she'd broken her wrist or something like it was pretty bad. Keep filming. Keep filming. I like that instinct. Her fear of water became such a phobia that friends and family were of course, she was

afraid to have her hair washed and had recurring nightmares about drowning. And again at the age of 14, because of the last minute script change, she was given the choice of jumping off the back of a boat or losing her role in the star with Betty Davis. She jumped and immediately became hysterical. So if she was this terrified of water, why would she have decided to get into a boat and go into the ocean? Why would they only yacht in the first place? terrified of water, why would she have decided to get into a boat and go into the ocean? Which is largely water. But why would they only yacht in the first place? Well yeah, I mean it's her husband's yacht I suppose, like he's probably more.

But yeah, the ocean's mostly water, and that's the thing that she's fierce. But just what you forget is we're mostly made of water. And there were three people, most of them out of water, on that ship, to get away from. Yeah, okay, so she's getting away from one body of water by skimming across another body of water. Maybe she's getting away from three bodies of water. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe she's only afraid of fresh water. Right. Not salt water. Salt makes it more buoyant. Exactly. It's true. I mean, if they found their body floating. Yeah, quite buoyant. I'm quite surprised by that.

Would you sink? Yeah, eventually. Right. Yeah, when a like a body starts like soaking up the water, don't you get bloated? Yeah, blow out and then. Grace. Yes, gross. Grother found. In his 2008 memoir, Wagner admitted he'd fought with both Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood on the night she died, but that they'd all calmed down afterwards and he still didn't know what had happened to her. Nobody knows, he wrote. There are only two possibilities, either she was trying to get away from the argument or she was trying to tie the dinghy, but the bottom line is that nobody knows exactly what happened. Did I blame myself? Of course I did. If I'd been there, I could have done something, but I wasn't there.

I didn't blame you. I didn't see her. I was only feet away. The door was closed. I thought she was below deck. I didn't hear anything. But ultimately, a man is responsible for his loved ones and she was my loved one.

So it's like, so are you answering your question there? Did you blame yourself? I don't know. Yeah, you sound a lot of excuses. Yeah. So in summary. Feels like I was expecting them to say, yes, of course I blame myself.

That would be a reason for thing to say. In 2011, Christopher Walken spoke about the death and provided a plausible explanation for what may have happened as he told Playboy magazine where all the plausible explanations go. What happened that night only she knows because she was alone. She'd gone to bed before us and her room was at the back. A dinghy was bouncy against the side of the boat and I think she went out to move it.

There was a ski ramp that was partially in the water. It was slippery. I'd walked on it myself. Oh fuck, I should be doing a walk in impression. I can't do a walk in impression. Luckily Dave can. Give him a line. Gold watch. Does he mention gold watches in this? Does he mention the gold watch? No. That's pretty much the only thing I can even think of how he was saying. I'm boyfriend does a lot of walking. It's always just friends listen. That's good. No, it doesn't matter. Anyway. That's very good. She told me she couldn't swim. In fact, they had to cut a swimming scene

from brainstorm. Better than I expected. She was probably half asleep. Anyway, but the boat's captain, Dennis DeVern, Dennis Hopper, said on the US today show in 2011. Dennis DeVern slashed Dennis Hopper. He admitted that he'd made mistakes by not telling the honest truth in a police report.

He said that the couple had gone into a huge fight and the Wagner shouted at walkin, do you want to fuck my wife before smashing a bottle of wine and then later yelling, get the fuck off my boat. You said that to Christopher Walkin'. Yeah, I beg your pardon, he said, get off my fucking boat. This is my fucking boat, it's for fucking. If you don't want to fuck my wife, get off my fucking boat. Good to know, I'm sorry.

Devane claimed Wagner told him what to say initially and had lawyers write a statement on his behalf which they forced him to sign. He claimed that Wagner appeared to be sweaty, flushed, anxious, nervous and disheveled when they realised she wasn't on the boat. The shoveled? The shoveled. Yes. I immediately wanted to radio for help and turn on the search light, but Robert Wagner told me sternly, I like that he called him Robert Wagner.

Told me sternly. He called me a warden nominated Robert Wagner to turn to me instead. He just doesn't want to sound like their friends at all. Yeah, and Mr. Wagner might have made me lose. If that is his real name. Told me sternly, we're not going to do that. We'll wait and see if she returns. Oh, that's weird, right? Yeah, she might just swim back to the that. We'll wait and see if she returns. That's weird, right? She might just swim back to the boat. Yeah, she loves swimming. She's gone for a dip. Should we not just have a quick look in case? She loves a night dip. No, instead what they did is while we waited, Wagner opened

a scotch and poured alcohol for me. He encouraged me to drink. He discussed with me the repercussions of bringing any immediate attention to the situation and he claimed he did not want to tarnish his image. After an autopsy was conducted on the body authorities revealed that Natalie's arms had been covered in bruises. There was a scratch on her neck and abrasions on her face, and that it was likely the injuries had occurred prior to her drowning. I'm at the time due to the alcohol and two types of medications found in her system, her cause of death was ruled as an accidental drowning.

But after Daverne's changed recount, led to the case reopening in 2011, a medical examiner changed the cause to drowning in other undetermined factors. I think one of the things in our system was like a painkiller and one of them might have been like a sea sickness kind of thing. It wasn't like she was on hard drugs. But those sorts of things can heighten the effects of alcohol. And I think her blood alcohol was quite high. So she was probably a bit perthed.

And in February of this year, Robert Wagner has been named as a person of interest in the death of his late wife, Nelly Wood, 36 years after she died. 2018. Yeah. Wow. So basically what I'm saying there is, it's still open, it's still a mystery. 36 years after she died. 2018. Yeah. Wow. So basically what I'm saying there is, it's still open, it's still a mystery!

Oh my goodness. It doesn't sound like a mystery, but I... It sounds pretty weird, right? Yeah. I mean it's definitely a mystery of what happened, but it feels like there's some very strong suspects. Yeah. Allegedly I guess. Yeah.

Dennis Hopper. Dennis Hopper. Where were you, EZ Rider? Who is dead so we can talk about it being suspicious. But it's really strange, right? Oh, man, Christopher, welcome. There's also a part of me too that's kind of like, you know, when he's talking about like the repercussions if we make a fuss now, like, you know,

when you have a fight with your partner and you're fighting but you're in public, so you kind of like, I know we need to calm down. Right now, we are fighting. I feel like it's a little bit like that. Like she's chucked a tantrum. Or he's thinking she's chucked a tantrum and I stormed off. He's like, don't panic.

Oh, right. Maybe, I don't know. I'm not on the side or anything, but I just think like, I've been in situations where I've stormed off and come back and be like, I'm sorry. Oh, God. I haven't jumped off a boat, You know. It's everything okay.

Help me. My god. And just Robert Wagner, what's the his latest? Does he not really talk about it? Yeah, he's not really talking. And her sister, her younger sister, Lana, Svetlana, Lana Wood, also an actress actress is quite vocal about it and it's sort of saying like, you need to talk. He doesn't, does he not work anymore? Is that why it was replaced in Austin Powers? That's funny that the only reason I know it's not funny, but it sounds like it was quite

a big after and the only reason I know it was from Austin Powers. I know if he's from Austin Powers as well, but I'm pretty, he won't wonder why he lost that role. Well, he only wrote a place because they did a flashbang. Oh, maybe it was, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But that basically brings us to the end of my report. It does, in fact, not basically. It does bring us to the end of my report on Natalie Wood and the drowning of Natalie Wood as suggested by Henry.

Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Henry. What a sad story. Sorry. Start to finish. Right, yeah. Really talented actress, beautiful camera loved it.

Just did not get looked after at anyone. By anyone, really. Everyone took advantage and, beautiful camera loved it just did not get looked after by anyone everyone took advantage and or whatever yeah so there you go I wonder what happened I'm sorry I just found out what happened I was telling you something's funny, hey. It is unsatisfying when we have problems. You never said Bob sadly, I hated that. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, hey, Maddie, hey, look at me. It's okay, all right. Says here that Robert Wagner has a recurring role

that's Teddy Leopold on the TV sitcom Two and Half Men, or did, and had a recurring role as Anthony Denoso, senior on NCIS. And I think the actor who played Denoso. Michael Weatherly. Yeah, he plays Robert Wagner in the Teller movie. Oh, what's his character like in that? How do they portray the drowning in that?

I don't really remember. Imagine they would have had to have played it like it was she left or, or they probably just kept it super wide open. Yeah, some sort of terrible accident or something, I think. Yeah, I think she was, like, she was like 46 or something. She wasn't. Yeah. Sounds pretty dodgy. Yeah, it does. So yeah, that's, that's my report. Thank you to Henry for suggesting it. I'm sure he's right. I've never heard of that.

Yeah, I thought you would have at least known the name because it's, yeah. I think I only heard about it when it it when someone said I was saying something about enjoying Wagner's in Austin Powers the movie I know it from. And they're like oh you should look into him and I never did. But now you know why they made that promise. They made it sound like it was he may have done something bad. But yeah it doesn't sound like it so it sounds like it's not so may have done something bad. But yeah, it doesn't sound like it's not. So the case has been reopened.

Yeah, it was reopened in 2011 and it's been investigated. But he's only just this year being named as a person of interest. Right. But that's 36 years after she died. Yeah, that's all feels, well, hopefully they get some closure. He's 88 years old, so. 88. We may never so. 88.

We may never know. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully he has a deathbed. I guess the only way, if he get on his deathbed, he goes, I was telling the truth. I really don't know. Yeah. That's not gonna be enough for some people.

No. Yeah, no. Anyway, it's really killed the mood there. Sorry about that. I mean, I, even I wouldn't have picked one that said. Well, a live audience would love it. There's people at home cheering right now. Probably. Let's wrap this shit up.

No, it was a very interesting topic. Yeah, just especially the story. That's just a tragedy, a childhood acting story, the whole idea of those parents who go for long. And there's a big history of that, especially in America seemingly. Yeah, Hollywood. But maybe that's just Hollywood and big time sports. Yeah, for sure.

And music as well. I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson at a very tough time as a kid and plenty of others. Tennis mums and tennis dads as a cupping, like, to me a dockic. Swimming. Swimming, yeah. Just parents are really pushing

all the pressure under their little kids. Yeah. And they're the ones, I guess it's because that's how they're the ones who end up reaching the heights because they get pushed too far. But it's also those are the kind of sports where you start quite young. Swimming, gymnastics, tennis, acting, yeah. Anyway, I'm so sad. I'm sorry. I'm okay with it.

Yeah, I'm alright. I found it to be an interesting story that I didn't know anything about. So thank you for that. And we've got to say thank you to everyone that does support the show and also suggest cool topics like that. So I say cool, you know, interesting is what I mean. And so if you know any interesting stories and you want to suggest them, you can do that at any time via the link

in the description of this episode. There is a little form you fill out. You can also tell us why you think we should do that topic, which is often a good way of getting it over the line. Honestly, that helps me. They pop out more. So the growth is a hat. There's thousands of suggestions now.

You give us a little hook. Yeah, we think, oh, hello. Little bio. Oh, we do a little Google search. We think, oh, hello. Oh, hello. Little bio. Oh, we do a little Google search. We go, oh, hello. Hello. Hello there. Oh, yum yum.

Oh, this is a good mystery. It'll taste immoral. We'll gobble up some of that knowledge. Yes, sure. We'll depress them out with this one. Oh, that's my, it's usually how I go, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we would like to thank some people.

And also, we'd like to thank the Patreon people. Yeah. People that support the show at patreon.com slash do go on pod if you want to support the show Maybe listen every week and you're thinking how can help these guys out make this you know even more Professional than it already is and I've got it. You know how we we always give them something yes Today, I think what we should do is give them a stage name. Okay, okay. We're gonna change their names to make them easy. First and last. First, ah, if necessary.

Okay, great. We'll make that decision. This first one, so these are all people that support the show through Patreon. That's what I was trying to say. This first one potentially, actually, a lot of these names that I've got here, pretty, they're pretty great as they are,

but I reckon you can ju can judge them up even further. Yep. But firstly, from Mesa in Arizona, I'd love to thank Zoe Sabrowski. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm afraid that one will not keep Zoe on a poster. We can keep Zoe because there's only a couple of Zoe's. Okay, Zoe. Zoe. Shiner. Zoe Shiner. Zoe Sh Zoey. Zoey. Shiner.

Zoey Shiner. Zoey Shiner. Zoey Shiner. Starring, Zoey Shiner. And introducing Zoey Shiner. Oh yeah, okay. Zoey Shiner. Thank you Zoey.

Imagine that Zoey is an aspiring young actor of about six or seven. I'm fine. That hit the big time supporting our show. Yeah. Where's Shiner? I've never heard the name Shiner. You gotta create names.

Oh yeah. You have. That got a great name. Well, yeah. You have. That just means black eye. Yeah. So it can be pretty violent on set. Right. That's part of the right. You know, a minder at all times for this young man.

She goes all in. Yeah. So thank you, Zoe. Thank you, Zoe Shiner. Well done. Yeah. And I'd also love to thank, from Portmouth in the UK, in England, Katie O'Day. Oh.

I like how that's ready to go. Yeah, I feel like Katie O'Day is good. I like O'Day. I think they made we should replace the first name. Okay. Just a minute. Yeah, okay, you want to jazz it up a little bit. Something O'Day.

I got it. Okay. Cecilia. Oh, Cecilia O a little bit. Something O'Day. I got it. Okay. Cecilia. Oh, Cecilia O'Day. Cecilia O'Day. It's Rawls of the tongue. How many famous Cecilia's are there, other than the song?

I don't know if I can think of any. Correct. Cecilia. So then eventually, she'll just be like a dowel. Just a little bit. Hello, I'm a dowel. It's me a dowel. Hello, no, is this her name?

Hello, Adkins. We've I'm Adele. It's me Adele. Hello, does this say a name? Hello, Edkins. We've talked about this before. Edkins. Adele Edkins. Oh, I like that. Adele, Edkins. Well, that's much better. I just like say, hello, I'm Adele.

So, hello, I'm Cecilia. Hello, I'm Cecilia. Great. Fuck, she's good. I imagine that's how you say I'm Cecilia and we appreciate your support. I don't know, I feel like KDO Day. Anyway. No, KDO Day is pretty her here and we appreciate your support. I don't know if they're Katie. Oh day. Anyway, no Katie O day is pretty great. The segment doesn't work if we don't change

Yeah, then come on man. Zoe's a brosky to Zoe Shino. Zoe Shino. That's a great name. Stop Shooting on the segment. Devour at a novel. I'd put this is fun. We're having fun. It's fun. No, you're right. I mean, it's a lot of fun No doubt about that. All right, who have you got? I'd like to thank a star in the making. All the way from Washington, in a place called Poo Yellup. Poo Yellup. I'm sure you're laughing at how I've said that, Megan.

And your name is Megan Hughes. Megan Hughes is already too simple. We need to make that a bit different. Oh, sorry, Megan Hughes, I'm sure it would be. Let's keep Megan. Megan Gregson. Oh, I love it. Megan Gregson. Well done. What's the saying now you're on board with a fun game? Megan Gregson. Megan Gregson. Have you ever say, now you cook them with gas? Now you're Megan Gregson. Oh yeah. People will say, because she gets shit done. Yeah. Megan Gregson gets shit done. Megan Gregson, thank you so much for your support there.

Thank you. You're in here, thank you. Oh my God. This name is fantastic. I can't be real. I would like to thank from Cooke's Hill in New South Wales. Paris Drinkwater. Drinkwater.

I'm afraid I've just encountered a perfect name. Yeah, we can't, no need to change. Paris Drinkwater. Paris Drinkwater. That is just, I'm sure I've just encountered a perfect name. Yeah, we can't, no need to change. Paris, drink water. Paris, drink water. That is just, I'm sure, because when you join the screen actors' guild, I think a lot of the time people change their names or slightly because it's already taken. You can't have two people. Some time.

Some time people. Add an initial or something. You can't have two people with the same name. Oh. Michael J. Foxx. Yeah, on the guild. So it's common names like that, for example, yes. But I don't think it's going to be any Paris, drink waters in the guild.

You know, no need to change that. Wait you're not gonna but I mean that's the whole thing. No. No. If you have to try to carry a day you're gonna change para-string. Paris J drink water. Oh there it is yeah fuck you Matt but we did change it. I'm gonna call her. Yeah what would you say? Berlin eight food. Oh I love it. Sorry Berlin J 8 food thank you now that's Hollywood that's an Academy Award would put that on the statue for next year already inscribed but I'm that confident yes wow I'll even guess the title of the film yeah the Punisher just like a porn yeah the best porn oh that

confident make a statue with that category because it's happening. Wow. Okay, great. Well, congratulations. Berlin. Thank you so much Berlin J Eat food. I would like to thank from civil east in Victoria local Terry Nighhouse I've got it. I already love Nighhouse Terry Nyhouse. I've got it. I already love Nyhouse. Terry Roundhouse. Kick to the throat. Karate Star. Terry Karate Star. You're in.

You'll take everything. Every answer is a good answer. What about, we changed Terry. Roundhouse I love. But what about T.R. Roundhouse? T.R. Roundhouse. Oh, get f**king active hero. Yes! Starring T.R. Roundhouse.

She's a bad ass. Terry's gonna f**k some shit up. Yeah, that's great. Good for you, Terry. I do love the name Terry as it is, but... Terry. Terry's good. Terry, there's a good man.

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Haseus Shitstorm. Wow. Great. Yes. Tera down. Tera down and build it back up. I like it. Even bigger and bigger.

Haseus. Keep nothing of the original. Spell Jesus. I imagine. Yes. Shitstorm. Shitstorm. Hazus keep nothing of the original spell Jesus. I'm imagine yes shit storm shit storm because you went a Possible master they want to kick me off there. Yeah, and then you just threw in shit storm I wanted to go Hollywood block and you did that's so big you did it's like Yahoo serious, but why better? Yeah, cuz that's Hollywood Yes, yeah,'s serious? Wow, okay. Well, thank you, Hazus Shitstorm. Hazus J Shitstorm, if I may. And thank you to all our future

Academy Award winning supporters. Yeah. Would be nice to have one patron supporter who's one Academy Award. Just one, that's all I ask. That's all we ask. Even if it's for like cinematography. I'll tell that would happen, right? No, but do you think when you get too big for that stuff, you don't support like small arts anymore? Right. You're like, I'm gonna cather me a ward, when a wide-eyed pledge tendles a month to a Patreon. Like it would be good if we had Stephen Spielberg on board.

Because you get a ward more than ten. He get a ward more than ten bucks. Matt's favorite director for the price of a tub of vanilla ice cream a month. He could lose 10 grand Australian. Big time. Like, and not even realize it was gone. And that would make a huge difference to us. Yeah, totally would.

You know? We'd go to America next month, the Steve and Spill were where it goes, 10 grand. Woo! Probably not next month, because the venues are hard to organize, but we'd go. We'd go, but like.

The Spillbeaks cash. We'd probably, but like... The Spielbergs can. We'd probably need more than 10 grand. Nana. For three flights, back and forth. We'd still sell tickets. The accommodation. The 10 grand, just the buffer in case. Okay.

From Spielberg. Okay, okay. Also, can we get a photo of a Spielberg? I don't do why not. I'm assuming he's coming to our show. If he's giving me his 10 grand. Oh man. Anyway.

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