Do Go On - 14 - Triple J's Hottest 100

Episode Date: January 27, 2016

Triple J's Hottest 100 is "the world's biggest musical democracy", a music countdown with a 20+ year history. Matt talks the guys through its beginnings and some interesting facts and figures. Dave tells us how he could've been a doctor. And Jess finds her singing voice. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to Do Go On Another episode of our podcast. I'm possibly your first episode. Could be a thing, my name is Dave Warnicky and I am here with my co-host Machums Jess Perkins is my number one introduction to you this week. Hi Dave. Yeah, Perkins Perkins. Hello Jess Perkins and you are of course a rival to your co-host Matt Stewart. Oh he's taken, he's taken that off my hands. Normally I get to introduce someone. That's right. Neither of us get to. He does it all.

Well, I was always third and it's nice to be introduced. I'm playing you off against each other. It's really fun. No, we're a team. Yeah. We will come at us. We were talking. Come at us. Fuck it.

We were talking about auditation. That is early on in the podcast to be a confrontation. To be a confrontation. Well, we're a friend of fuckhead, but there you go. Here we are. And a few people have stopped listening. Thanks for sticking with us, everyone else. Oh, swear we're friends, or swear we are.

We're talking off air about if we were Destiny's child. The early 2000s are a big group who we would be and matched you with. You decided yourself that you are the Michelle Williams, the third most popular. We're not at all decided that. You said, apart from the fact that I wouldn't have known her name, you said you're definitely the Michelle Williams.

So I don't see how. Well, I just wanted to be the Beyonce of the group, leaving Jess the Kelly Roller. You definitely didn't. But then Jess started singing and yeah, we all decided. She had the best voice. What sweet Vox she had. She had.

I do break into song a lot in this podcast. You do really? Too much. Michelle Williams, if you're not familiar with the one who was often given the third half verse or the bridge as her solo. So she would only sing for a... So Matt, that's pretty good. Still got a bridge. Yeah, look, I'm happy to be here in one of the most successful all-girl groups of all time.

That's right. Without having to worry about any of the bullshit. You're having to be the little fish in a big pond. That's right. That's all I want. I just want to be a little fish in a big pond. Still in the pond. Still in the pond. And I'm happy to be married to J.Z. And I'm, I had that song with Nelly one time and I don't know what I've done since. I assume I'm happy though. Yeah, money just swimming in cash.

So much cash. I got a pool full of cash. Pool food. Pool food. Michelle Williams also shares her name with the Michelle Williams daughter's Creek actress. So there's something else. And Heath Ledger, mother of his child. Yes, correct.

The mother of Heath Ledger's child probably would have made more sense. That's okay. Wow. And here we all are. Here we are. The child of Destiny 123. Okay. What a weird way to start.

So it's Matt Stewart. Okay, Michelle Williams. Your turn to do a report, what we do on the show is we do a report on one single topic. We each take it and turns to write that report and come back. With the report to the class, now Matt is your turn like I say. And we don't know what you're going to talk about.

Are you excited? Yes. Yes, I am. I can hear it in your voice. You haven't admitted to being up very late last night writing this, and also this morning you a little bit late to this recording so you could continue the writing session.

I was, this is, yeah, if this is a school class, I am definitely cramming, probably worse than I ever have before, but if I can squeeze out a C plus, I'll take it. All right, well, we'll just up the infusion. I just want to say, going out a C plus. Okay. I'll take it. All right, well, we'll just up the enthusiasm. I just want to say, going for a C plus is a very Michelle Williams attitude. Beyonce would go for an A plus. Kelly, probably a B plus, a C plus from Michelle.

That's about right, actually, for us, isn't it? I feel like Beyonce probably wouldn't go for an A plus. She just get one. Well, she's born with it. Yeah, but that's, but you're, you're cheapening her hard work as well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I am.

Fuck you, Beyonce. It's not like Beyonce. My sisters played me some Beyonce from recent years. Some really sweet stuff in there. She's a very talented woman. Thank you. Nobody's arguing. Thank you.

I'm taking this like you're talking about my work ethic. Thank you. Yes, I do work very hard. I'm a talented woman. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm taking this like you're talking about my work ethic. Thank you. Yes, I do work very hard. I'm a talented woman. It's like I am dangerously in love. You're a yeah. What is she? You're a strong independent lady. No, she's not. She's married. And neither am I. I'm not a single lady either. So the the similarities are endless between us. So all adding up. Beautiful. Well, yeah. okay. Can you draw on? Sorry, if you want to go on, sorry, Beyonce likes to talk about herself more than Michelle. So going for the C plus today is you, Matt Stewart. We always start with a question just to lead us into the topic. Yeah, I think if you know this topic, you'll probably know this is basically their marketing,

marketing, it's a marketing thing. A stretch of words in like a short sentence, it's like a phrase used for marketing purposes. It's like a logo, but a sentence. What do you call those things? Like a tag line. Like a tag line? Okay. A motto? A motto. It's like a motto, I'm gonna say it's like a marketingline. Like a tagline? Okay. A motto?

A motto. It's like a motto. I'm going to say it's like a marketing motto. Okay. What's just do it for Nike? It's like a... Yeah, that's their tagline. Which is a tagline.

I think so, yeah. And that would definitely be copyrighted too. So yeah, right. So if you know this thing, you'll know this slogan. That slogan is the word we're going to say. Oh, that is fucked at 3. This took so long to remember

slogan but I'd like to point out that Kelly Roland got it she did get it which aren't more reason to believe that maybe Kelly's actually beyond say sorry I was secretly writing a Grammy award with an album in the corner here sir do try to pay attention another one no slogan that's A word Okay, so the question is what is the world's largest music democracy? What? Maybe it's not that well known of a oh, yes, I think I know what you mean Yes, I'm do you have any idea what he's talking about music democracy? Musical democracy where people I mean where people would vote on music like the Grammys or like no

Where people would vote on music? Like the Grammys? Or like, no? But more, I think the logic of why they call it this is because so many people vote. Like the Grammys. Oh, I'm sorry, man. I'm with you now, yep, I'm sorry. Are you talking about the Triple J hottest 100 count down?

Talking about the Triple J, it comes 100 count down. Oh, very nice. Yeah. Yeah. So. Well, I think we should give context for people that might be from overseas. If you could, thank you. Were you planning to do that or should I just say? No, no, you're the guy. Because I think of myself as I'm a guy who talks to Australians.

I can communicate with your every man in Australia. Yeah, trying to say you're a podcast racist. I don't. I can I can communicate with your every man in Australia trying to say you're a podcast racist I don't I can't if someone's listening in Taiwan turn off is what you're saying? Well, I wasn't thinking Taiwan. I was thinking you know like Maybe America or something like I feel like you can you can talk you're You've got the tongues if you were like a biblical person you'd be one of those guys down the tongues You you talk and everyone understands. I'm doing the tongues.

I'm doing the tongues. You're going down. I love that. That's a great phrase. I'm doing the tongues. Are we going down doing the tongues? Oh. You did just say going down the tongues.

I'm mad at that bit out. I'm just saying it. You're saying it. Gladly. That's my slogan. If you could go down doing the tongues. If you could go down doing the tongues For people

Any of this all right, so So triple J is if you are from overseas or you're an Australian person is a Australia's largest national youth broadcast radio station. It's sort of government funded It's part of the ABC which is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and the hottest 100, are you going to explain what that is? Yeah, I can talk about that. So yeah, it's pretty much just our largest youth music station that's sort of aimed between people that are 16 to 35 kind of thing. That's right, yeah, that's the idea. I think it's even, probably aiming even younger than that. Yes, maybe 12 to 30

Yeah, to be honest. Yeah Yeah, so it Do you know when it began how far ago the triple J hottest 100? 100 years ago I assume because that's what I call it the hottest 100 Is it like that maybe the late 80s or something? Yeah, later is 89 Which was the same year that Triple J or Double J went national became Triple J. Okay, so it used to be called Double J. Double J was Sydney only. So yeah, so it, the hottest one, I'll be going in in 1989 after a Triple J stuff

are named Laurie Zion. Who was one of my lecturers at Latrobe University? No, shit, that's great. Tell me more about him, because I don't have a lot on him. Oh, shit, that's great. That's cool. Tell me more about him because I don't have a lot on him. Hi, he's a great guy. He's the head of journalism at Latrobe University, Bundera campus in Melbourne. The cool guy did a... His office number is Level 2. I am applied to do a PhD and he was going to be one of my co-supervisors, but I decided not to do it. What were you going to be a doctorate? I was going to do a PhD about podcasts.

What's going to write about? I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I tried to apply it. I wanted a scholarship so they'd pay you to do it. But I didn't quite get the scholarship, but I got a place. But they weren't going to pay me to do it. So they would just be here.

Do you want to mean like you can get away from the government to research something, which is so dumb I realized. Do you want to mean like you can get like a wage from the government to research something which is so damn I realize because come on. Does anyone need my podcast research? And yeah, Laura's arm is going to be one of my co-supervisors and a very great guy. That's cool. That's so cool. So he was. I wish you were a doctor of podcasts. Oh my god. And then like we can put that all over our podcast. We have a doctor of podcasts on here. I still want to wonder. I still could do it. I've got the application, I can just fire it back in. And you've got heaps of content now to work on, like, to...

No, no, I've got the inside knowledge. Yeah. There really, there couldn't be many doctors of podcasting in the world. You could get us like two more listeners. Yeah. The parlorysion would have to listen. Afterlisten.

And I don't know, maybe... No, it's probably one. You get one more listener. But I didn't know that he... I would't know, maybe, no, it's probably one. You get one more listener. But I didn't know that he started the Triple J. Hold us one more. Yeah, he came up with the idea. I knew that he used to be a Triple J sort of broadcaster and he's made documentaries and stuff for the ABC. And he's like, yeah, cool guy, it's been in journalism for so long.

Awesome. Yeah, what a cool thing to. I'm gonna hang in there. I wish I had known that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I go out lecturing you who's got something like that in their past, it would be hard not to bring that up. Yeah, you'd think so.

It reminds me of the time when I started the world's largest musical democracy. But that is such a cool thing that he didn't have to go on about that. Yeah, that's true too. What a cool guy. What a geez, even cooler. And he knew that one day you'd find out

That's right through the medium of podcast. Yeah, oh See it's got potential people someone sponsor me to do this goddamn PhD I see a possible campaign. I've seen a couple of different things. We should. Yeah, we shouldn't Sorry, Matt Just to the government the government can Sorry Matt. Just to the government the government can start a Malcolm Turnbull the Prime Minister of Australia to pay me a wage So he apparently from somewhere I was reading that he got the idea from a Brisbane community station I think it was like four triples Z or something like that and they they had a yearly countdown called the hot

100 I believe oh, okay, and that's quite hot, but not the hot 100 I believe. Oh, okay. Um, and that's quite hot but not the hottest. But that's what that's what the triple J one was initially called the double J hot 100 or triple J 100. And the first three years it was all time there was no restriction on the year that you had to go. Ah, so yeah you vote for these, it's for the previous calendar year. That's right.

Your favorite 100 songs from the country. But at the start was it just of all times. It was all time, I really. You vote for the Beatles, vote for. Yeah, exactly. So do you mean it breaks whatever? Yeah. First year, level terraced apart by Joy Division was number one.

And the second year, it says 89 and 90 again was number one. Wow. Then the third year, level Teresopart was number two, with a new song, Smells Like Teen Spirit, and the other one. And so it went straight to be the greatest song of all time. Yeah, but I mean that kind of shows a bit of a fault with it because when you've got a An all-time countdown and they've done all-time countdown since then There's always a few songs that are from that year. It's like you really need to give songs a little bit of space before you call them

Best song of all time, right? Yeah, I think somehow would a you're in the moment Yeah, you're thinking this is the best hang on fastball six months you're still going to love this yeah you're going to love it but is it better than Joy Division you need it you need it sort of a quarantine system but as it turns out like 20 years later they did another all-time count and smells like teens who are top to begin so in that case all right they nailed it but yeah yeah, in other cases, like. But was it fairly simply year-to-year?

Because I can imagine that every year, can it change that much? It did, yeah, that was a thing. It was fairly repetitive. So I think I was one of the main reasons why they decided to do it. So maybe, yeah, maybe 91 to 100 changes a bit for the top 10. Yeah, they did switch around in positions a bit, some songs yeah for the most part it was you know a pretty similar countdown yeah so I guess that was that was one of the main reasons why they decided to

make it a yearly thing instead just because it was gonna get monotonous and I you and I like in the end it was a very smart decision because it you know people care about it and it's like a little every one is a little like a time capsule. Yeah, it's cool to look back at the list of what the top 10 from every year was. Yeah, there's some fucking shit songs in every countdown. I've looked through them all and there's some pretty awful stuff. That's sort of joke songs, I think.

But there's some great stuff as well. Yeah, there's songs that you just don't remember at all. Don't have the stang power and then other songs that Just classics it didn't rank as high as you might have thought. Yeah anyway So what you was the first Highest 100 of the previous year. So they they after the first three that a year off Bit of time to regroup. Yeah, that's right. They were sort of bit of time to rework and then they did the 1993 countdown with the first one, first yearly countdown. On 1993? So for the previous year.

Yeah, for the year of 93. Oh, okay, cool. And it's the first one was actually counted down on the fifth of March, 1989. But now they do it yearly on Australia day. Which is January the 26th and sort of a bit of a popular thing to have a barbecue and listen to the hot 100 because Australia days and a public holiday in Australia, so everyone, most people have the day of work. Yeah. Do you know, I don't know if you're going to go into this, but how did they like collect all that data back then pre-intinit? Are you going to go into it? Yeah, I can, yeah, I'll talk, I don't want to jump out. No, no, I wasn't going to go into it, but that's a, that's a good question. Yeah, so. Because now everybody

just does it online, right? Yeah, it's all online now, but back then it was mail-in. Yeah, it's going to save. And did you have to list a hundred? No, you still, same as now, you vote for your top ten. Okay.? And they they were told to ride them on the back of an envelope and it took months and months to Calate the world. They would have been like a you write them on the back of an envelope. Yeah, that was a So people can see your votes. It's not very Secretive in that Secretive you shouldn't be ashamed of your music taste Australia posts are going there reading They're looking at going, oh, what a years thinking.

A bit of school. They didn't, but at the time, you know, when something like, they didn't know this was going to be bigger or anything at all. It was just like a fun project. But you know how in retail, like, it gets to the busy time of year and they put on Christmas casuals just for, like, those few months to help with the busy time. Dracking, they employed people just to come in and take all that data and help with that. Probably should have.

Like a post-C person. Not a post-C person, just a few extra people on hand at Triple J to read all the votes. Yeah, some interns. Some data re-imputed. Well, yeah, do you know how many, how big it was when it first started? True, it wouldn't have been as big as it is now. It was still. It was way smaller.

Now they're into the millions of votes. But then it was, it was nowhere near as big. But they got to apparently, they got some quite funny submissions. Submissions in terms of the medium that was used instead of envelopes, like apparently someone sent in a canvas with them painted on. There votes, someone sent a sculpture with it chiseled.

And apparently someone from someone who's in prison painted on their votes someone sent a sculpture with it chiseled and then apparently someone from someone who's in prison sent sent 10 robbodies cigarettes with the with the votes written on the cigarettes what a waste of cigarettes yeah no like that's like throwing money away yeah don't they bother with them and yeah idiot he's just passionate about the music Good for him. Yeah, good on him or probably a full bullshit story, but you know I read it on the internet So it's probably that's true truth truth on the internet preach And so that that was the first time also that was called the hottest one hundred

Supposedly was the the fourth on the first yearly one all right Do you know the song that won the top of the first countdown? 93. Is it the Cranberries? No, that was the following year. We were three years old Dave, think back. What were you listening to when you were three? The only older one I know that won is the Cranberries' zombie. Zombie! Zombie! Sombé! Sombé! Sombé! He used to have to... Cremory's actually were number three in the first in the 93 count down.

It's a lingo. That song... I used to think it was a great song until when I was in Year 7. Did you study it in music? Yeah, did you do what it was like? Did you ever play it on guitar? Because it's only that four chords, the chorus bit, but we had a tone-diff music to be jumping with a sing over to the top. Tone-diff music teacher, what's going on?

It was so great. It's not good, yeah, we studied it in 2007, I was going to say that, it's so weird. You guys are the same. We're the same person. Same person, same destiny child. So the first, well the first song was a, it was a number one in 1993, it was a gimmicky song. It was a comedy song. Oh, is it? I'm an asshole. Is that so, but then it's literally. Dennis Leary. Yeah, that's on the first one. That's that was the number one song.

Number one song. But I mean, that's the kind of thing that would come up, you know, like, but they thought this has got legs. This is really good. Well, you know, at the time, it was this is I'm not catching song. I think it sold pretty well commercially as well but it number two was Creep by Radiohead which is still a scene as a classic. Well obviously that's on the that's not quite as good as I'm an asshole. Yeah that's like if you go through the top town of that year I think most of those are still seen as being pretty good. What else we got? Blan Melon no rain great

tune. Okay. The breed is cannonball, rage against the machine, killing in the name. Well, I'm still, they're just no asshole, but please, that's true. Well, I can't go on. I can't go on, because nothing's gonna be asshole, is it?

I'm not doing it. So, I'm a nassau, well my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that was the first countdown. The cranberries did top the next one with zombie. Do you be pleased to hear? Did you, sorry, how does zombie go? No, I'm not singing it.

I can't remember. I can't remember the tunes. It's not good. I found this, this Lattrobe University press release about an ongoing study they've been doing into trying to figure out characteristics of songs and artists that tend to do better in the polls. Oh that's cool. Yeah. Is there a lot of joke songs and stuff in there? Relative to how songs chart in the area, the normal area charts, the popular chart.

It is relative. So if it goes to number one in the Australian chart, it's more likely to be... This Dr. Liam Lenton.on He could have been a colleague of mine decided to Decided to avoid a career in academia. I love the idea of Dave as a doctor I'm trying to work out so that I would how along what I've done now I would have I'd be going into my third and final year. I should have done it should have done No, it's not too late, but it's not too late. I could do it part-time over six years. I could become a doctor secretly, but now I've told people on a podcast.

Yeah, but nobody. Not a huge secret. Well, I mean, it is this podcast, so it is still pretty big secret. That's right. There's no one really listens. Are we doing alright? We're doing alright. We're doing great.

We've been in the top 20. Thanks everybody for listening. Thank you so much. Oh, no, yeah That's the ungrateful piece of shit, but Dave and I I'm impressed I'm actually Deprecating right now your picture, but all of us doing was was telling our listeners that you're hurting people They're worthless innocent people. Yeah. Sorry everybody. Sully ever What is the Liam at Lortropes?

These are some of the things they've found to be advantageous to a song getting in the game. Are you trying to try to write the perfect song to get in there? Yeah, I want to know the perfect song. Well, comedy songs clearly don't necessarily really ask. You just need one comedy song. There's been a bunch of comedy songs have made up, but they didn't know that. They said, Promotion and Airplay on the station is an advantage, which probably...

Oh yeah! These days I feel like every song that is number one, it's always been something that Triple Dev smashed all year, right? Not necessarily. I think what I found is that often the number one song is a big crossover song. So Triple J will play them I've played the song a bit and that artist a lot but not necessarily that song. I feel like sometimes it starts out on Triple J then it gets really big. Potentially.

And then it's like Ben's joy or something gets played on commercials and it's just everywhere. And then there that's how it probably helps because it's just in everyone's minds. Cause I think a lot of people vote in the hottest 100 that don't necessarily listen to Triple J all the time. So, and I think that was that campaign last year to get Taylor Swift in there as a joke,

even though that Triple J's never played her. I'm gonna talk a little bit about that in a bit. Oh, see so. Perfect, right, so what else, how else do we get in the... So promotion and airplane installation is advantage, but that feels like that probably goes without saying a bit. Oh, see so. Perfect. All right, so what else, how else do we get in the... So promotion and air plan, the station is in manage. But that feels like that probably goes without saying a bit. Yeah, they took three years to work.

Thank you. No, it's ongoing. Still, they're still checking it out. This has taken years and years. They also said that playing on TrubJ festivals, like in the past big day out and stuff, helped because that was their touring bands at the time when the voting's open.

Oh okay cool that's good. So that like it's there in your mind you've just seen them and thousands of people go to festivals like the Trouble J. Yeah and also I don't know if you guys do that thing where if you're going to a festival you listen to the bands that are going to play that festival because you want to enjoy the music that you recognize. Yeah yeah you want to enjoy the music that you recognize. Yeah, you would be more familiar. So then you might become a fan of a band or more of a fan than something you would

and previously you weren't going to the festival. I definitely do that. And yeah, one of those festivals I get a lot is Meredith and usually my votes is one or two Meredith bands, probably for that exact reason I guess Apart from the fact that maratives just pick fucking sweet tunes and bands to play Maybe podcasting up sponsored by marative. Oh my god. I'd imagine Matt would just die. He'd die happy man Also whether or not the song and featured as an album of the week during the year.

Okay. They still do that on Triple Day, album of the week. Yeah, and they go through and they like... They just flog it. And they talk about like, hey guys, this is blah blah from Padafinger. And we wrote this song when and then they play this song. So you get a bit of background, you get to know the band. The references we're giving make it sound like we've recorded this podcast 10 years ago,

big day out. Padafinger. It was just the first like non-controversial band I thought of Yeah, and they're also Well, I think they've got a great big history of being number one. Yeah, they're the only only band ever to top the chart twice Road is that right yeah, and then fannie got number one with his solo solo. A couple of years after that. So Bernard Fannie said three number ones. Which song of Bernard Fannie's? I just want to wish you will.

That was a big Bernard Fannie fan. Fannie fan. I had the shape music and I used to play all these songs on piano. Oh, I love Bernard Fannie. I used to pretend that. I love Bernard Fannie. I prefer his name as Fannie Bannie. But, but it's just Furnit Banning. Wouldn't we all.

Wouldn't we all. I'd be an ass, maybe you could be a cover. Oh yeah, you should do like a tribute. Furnit Banning. Furnit Banning. Probably already exists, Erickan. They also found that early alphabetical ordering of the song name provides an advantage. Oh, because it's often a drop down these days when you vote on the internet.

So you go, you log on, you have to pick your ten songs and you hit a button and like songs drop down You can yeah, that's right sort of scroll through them. So if you go you can pick them a bcd and just see the whole list of songs Advoc just let me sing adva but interestingly they found that The bands name which is also in it you can also search alphabet alphabetically by band, having your band starting with a letter early in the alphabet doesn't help. It doesn't. No. So people with their search in for a band,

I guess they're looking specifically, but if they're looking through songs, they're just going, what's ever, what's ever felt like? Have a browse, yeah. Because I feel like a lot of people. Just browsing, thanks. Thank you, just browsing. Is it like a lot of people that go in there,

all guns blazing, they're like, they know their top three, maybe, but definitely, and then they're like, oh, could have picked seven more. And then there's a lot of songs they know, but they're like, oh, so then they just go, oh, eight, nine, 10, A, B, C, yeah, done.

So those people get the pity of pity votes. So if you're, if your song starts today, you've taken the easy way out. I take the pity vote. Oh, yeah, totally. Big time. There's a, I think there's a federal senator, Australian senator who got voted in basically,

because his party was sounded like the liberal party, but also they do like a ballot to see where you are on the ballot. I got to random, and he was first, and his name had, his party had liberal in the name. So he's got him based on people not reading it properly and him being right at the start. Liberal done next. Now let's get a barbecue or whatever happens.

Let's get a barbecue. That's great. That's like, let's give sausages. What are we going to do today, huh? We've got a bite. We've got a bite. We've got a bite. We're gonna get a bite. It's gonna get a bite. We're gonna get a bite. We're gonna get a gas bottle. We're gonna set it up. Yeah, probably just a top 100. Just a sausage. All right. Okay. All right. Right. What else? So because Triple J promotes local acts, that's part of their charter is and I have a whole month. I think November's Australian music month, which is just leading up to when the coding opens in December, late December. So that helps lots of Australian acts get in. Every year there's been more and more Australian acts getting into the countdown. Let's start it off at about 25% in the first year and then it

moved up to in 2014. it was up to 59%. Wow. So over half the countdown is now Australian. Cause I feel like your Triple J would have a chart in their chart that they have to play a certain percentage of Australian music. I don't know what the percentage is. So that's what it's like.

That's great. So obviously working. Yeah, totally. And I mean, whether or not I think there's someone about that that's cool, that's great to give Australian bands like up. It probably makes the countdown in terms of its legitimacy as a worldwide countdown. It shrinks that down a bit.

You know, it's like, you're saying this is a big worldwide poll, just 60% of the favorite songs in the world are Australian. Of course, Australian, of course, that's right. All those Argentinian people love Australian music. Yeah, so it makes it seem a little bit sillier, but I think it's great because there are bands that just wouldn't be heard otherwise, I suppose. You've probably heard about this over the years, there's always a bit of controversy that males tend to dominate the countdowns.

Yeah, that's right. There's always a... It seems to be a preference from voters to go for male vocals, especially, but even male-dominated bands. Although, I mean, you might say the voters do that, but there's probably a chicken and egg thing right, because there's also probably more... Who came first, man or woman? We'll never know. When the Bible, I think it's man. Well, there you go.

Women get made out of the ribs. Yeah, it's scientifically proven that men are superior It's a really yeah, you got bigger brains you stronger smarter. We just sort of hang around until one of you marries us and then One of us yeah, one of you. Oh, okay. Oh Women Okay, geez. Women. No, I'm pretty sure that there have been what I did a tribute question once. That's what I do a right trivia questions about the only four times that female singers have featured singers or musicians are featured in the number one slot. Really? Yeah, only three times of vocalists. So it's the cranberries.

Cranberries was the only one with the lead vocalist. The other two was Gossier and Kimber. Which Kimber had a cameo featuring. And Angus and Julius Stone. Yes. Well done, Dave. And also Spider-Ban. Spider-Ban is Janet on the bass guitar. But that's Stranger, for Stunnermatch, and only one lead vocalist. Yeah, that's kind of sad. That really sounds probably co-lead vocalist But yeah, yeah, that's that's true, but not but her name does come second. Yeah, that's just alphabetically

I think that might be a Julia and I guess so maybe you see the older I don't know Don't put the A or you shoot me so because he's a man She got the patriarchy over here because men always come first I told you that Adam was older than him. You have an older sister. What? What? Do you do?

Do I? Oh my God. Do people bet on it? Yeah, it's. It can't use for quite big business. Yeah, it is. There's the favorite for this year, which is going to have already come out.

So the day before this is release is called Majoralize a lean on, I think, I'm saying is the strong favorite. Yeah. Cool. But what kind of odds are we looking at for? If you were to bet on that? I think it's, that one's coming like it's only

paying a few bucks, it's a pretty strong favorite. But it's weird, right? Let's put money on it right now. There are people who know the result already. Yeah. So it's kind of crazy that you can bet on something that is already decided. Maybe we should put $50 on it and then the listeners will know whether we've made money or not by the time it's come out.

Oh, yeah, good one. But I haven't even been paying attention to you. The problem is that the last few years especially, I've always had to work on Australia day. So I haven't paid as much attention to it as I would like to. Do you have a favorite hit on it? Can Kunters into number one favorite?

I'm voting for that. Can Kunters at 250 lean on 275? 254 Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, I mean. Which to me, I don't wanna put down Kendrick Lamar like I know a lot of people like him But to me that sounds like in 10 years that will be a joke song. Oh really? Mm-hmm. I really think so. Ah, yeah, I think people will look back and go. Yeah. Well, remember that was funny. I don't think so I think you're wrong. Let's listen back to this in 10 years

We'll move on this very day. I'll be like a fool at the first. That album's topping yearly critic charts over and over again. They're saying it's Almythi, it's best album. Critically acclaimed album. People love the album. Maybe I just see it's changing music. With that album. With that album. Maybe I just don't get, I just don't get really get hip-hop to be honest.

You're very wise. I've got a bone to pick with hip hop. Interestingly, did you guys know how many hip hop songs? Because hip hop is obviously quite a popular genre on Triple J. How many hip hop songs do you think have been number one in the hottest 100 count down? Six. I can't think of any zero. Well it's in between you two. It's one. Ooh. I think Dave was closer. What was the big? What was the number one? Hip hop. Hip hop. I mean, hip. Hip. You're probably if you're thinking hip hop, you're probably not necessarily. He's not the most hip hop of hip hop guys, but he's like he's hip hop. All the same. I mean, I'm going to be used to go. Mac or more.

Oh, you said the same song, yeah, of course. Also a joke song to invite. Yeah, it's because it's kind of a bit of a gimmicky song. Yeah, maybe gimmicky is a how I feel a bit like the King Kong to as well. Yeah, all right, look, the greater it is the great. Like I feel like in like 20 years, it'll come on. You'd be like, yeah, right look great. It is great Like I feel like that in like 20 years you'll be you'll be you'll come on you'd be like yeah This is great and your kid will be like what the hell is this?

Which I feel like we probably said about a lot of Beatles songs or a lot of you know Well, please have a little respect Sorry to discentral them out. Are you? C.T. You guys know there's been a heap of spin-off countdowns, like they know there are no good thing. It's the highest rating day of the year and that's a suffering. Oh, they do the 200 to 200. They do, yeah, they now do.

The runner ups. Second 100, which is great. I'd often prefer that countdown because they're the sort of, they're the popular songs that have been overplayed songs. What are the spin-offs, are they? Other spin-offs they've had, the hottest 100s of all time. They've done that a couple of times. They did it.

I feel like you're going to say that more dramatically of all time. In 1999, they did it and in 2009. And like I said before, it smells like teen spirit, one at both times. So I kind of like that idea of doing it every 10 years or so, kind of refreshing it Yeah, you have a bit of time to yeah

Have some new songs have some new people's opinions yet. They did a Australian albums hottest one hundred and 2011 Oh And that was topped by would you believe it back in black powder finger? Oh Happy with powder thing back in black was number three. Oh, what was number two? Number two frog stomps silver chair Living end living end number four and inaccessibility number five. Um the all-time countdowns

They changed a bit in a I mean, it's it's fun to sort of see where over 10 years or in this case the 11 years how the all-time countdown changed. So Navanna stayed in number one spot by time. Dennis Leary in there, anywhere? Dennis Leary, I don't think he was, no. Three of your arms around me came in at number two of the all-time countdown in 98. It also did come in at number two in the original 89 countdown and the following year 1990 so it was a big big song for triple J and double J listen as early on but it started to

slip in the all-time countdown of 2009 and it only made number 23 also in 1998 in the yearly countdown Paul McDermott unplugged from Good News Week he his version of Thruir Arms R Me came in at number 31. When was that sorry? In 98. Well. Yeah. Fact.

Do you know what I frequently YouTube? Because Paul McDermott has a great voice. He's a good singer. Good singer. And I frequently look up. There's a song that he did. He did let the Gala one year. I can't remember what year it was.

And it's called Slow Ride Home, I can't remember what year it was and it's called slow ride home I think and it's it's amazing. He's got these these guys coming out and play with him and it's beautiful So YouTube that sweet tip. Thank you. Sweet. You're welcome You're welcome. You're welcome. And then Pell Jam in 98 in the old time cad down came in at number three with a live. And then 11 years later, when they did the cantant again in 09, it slipped down to 25. So a similar sort of downward trajectory

to three arms around me. So in 10 years time, it might slip out of the top 50. Could do, yeah, it's, I mean, it makes sense because it's like it's drifting further back in your memory. Interesting, some songs come get higher up. Oh, you say you can't improve. Yeah. Like a fine wine or cheese.

I was wondering if I could get any, I don't know, can a song gets better in your mind? Yeah. Or is it used on a campaign or something so you remember it? What? What does happen, like, do you know the Fufa does ever long? Oh, yeah, that That's considered a classic. Yeah, that didn't even make its yearly countdown in the hot 100 Yeah, so the year that that came out it didn't even make it

So it was that was from 1997 and yeah, it didn't didn't make it in anywhere In 2006 an acoustic version of it came in the yearly count down at number 61. So it was starting again in popularity. Then in the 2009, all time count down it came in at number nine. Top 10, it's a sprint. So it didn't make it, didn't make it yearly 100, but it made the all time top 10. Wow, that's really strange, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's long make it's yearly 100, but it made the all-time top 10.

That's true. That's what really strange, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's long been a favorite of fans, but it's just been building. It's got a great film clip as well. I think it's helped. Rage plays it a lot.

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Um, yes, they're the old Tom-sad, so the Australian album one, but they also did the most recent one of these that they did was the 20-year countdown, so they, the 20 years of the hottest 100, so from 93 to 2012, you could vote for any songs released in that 20-year period. Oh, right, okay, yeah. Cool. So that was counted down in 2013 and the number one song in that ended up being Wonder World by Oasis. Oh wow. Two days. I'm going to be in the dance. I got to do that too. Food fighter's ever-long was number six in that so it's... I don't believe that anybody. That's not ever long. Seven Nation Army by the White Shops came in number two when it came in, it's yearly

one at number three. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's crazy, isn't it? So it's just like, songs, I think some songs slip out over time they're seen as they've aged poorly and other songs become classics. And sometimes it is because I think in one of the all-time countdowns, Tiny Dancer made it. Oh, my closer, Tiny Dancer. And that was... He never lets me get out more than a sentence? Probably wise, but also frustrating.

In 2009, all-time countdown. Probably wise Do it I think I'm gonna edit out all the talking of this and it's just gonna be like a 15 minute episode of you see Medley Just medley that was tiny real person. I met her once Anyway, so tiny dancer tiny dancer made the all-time countdown number 66 never having made any of That brings up, is that a person? She from, anyway. So, Tony Dancer? Tony Dancer made the all-time countdown on number 66, never having made any of the other countdowns before it, any of the all-time countdowns prior to that. And...

The theory... The theory on that would be because of the almost famous scene... D'you know? The famous scene of the... Do you remember that scene in almost famous? Yes. That. You had a busy day today.

That gave that song a new life. It was funny when, yeah, stuff does that. Yeah. Also, you know, the shins, they're song new song featured in gardens. Oh, the gardens, so it was big. It was nice and it was a soundtrack. And so it didn't feature in its year of release either, but in the 2009 all-time countdown came in at number 72. It's like crazy when it misses its year but then

gets in there all time. I think you could say Zach Braff choosing that song for that movie and yeah it wasn't that big of a song until a few years after it came out because of that movie. It's interesting. So yeah, they're sort of the spin-off ones, they're sort of the spin-off ones. They're sure to do more of those in the future because I think they're great fun and they normally is on a work day rather than a public order. It makes them go down so much sweeter or work week. Love it. I fucking love canton so much as you probably know. Any sort of list, I mean it. I mean, I want to tell the listeners about this.

You make playlists of songs on Spotify. Yeah, I'm a fucking wildcat. I just, I make a wildcat. I make playlists of songs on Spotify. But you do like crazy song, like here are 50 songs where they have a pause. Yeah, yeah. Like you have strange, what are some categories you've used?

Uh, that's probably my favorite on pause is so good because when you're playing it and you're... It's a strange thing to bring all these other things. So different genres, just a pause in the song and then it starts again. We did it because the first time we did the pause mix was with a group of friends and we all had to bring a pause song in and we know and knew what the pause song was. So you are a wild cat. And they, so we played them, we're drinking beers,

it was New Year's Eve one year, and it's just gone midnight. So we're celebrating and to celebrate, we put on the pause mix. And you're only a little waiting for it. We're standing in a circle around the music, outside and in country Victoria. And every time a song came on,

where there was a, where every song, every song did have a pause, but every time a song came on where there was a or every song every song did ever pause but every time the pause and then one one of the guys Rano he He chose a song that he swore had a pause He told me that he didn't listen back to confirm the pause He's like the live version has a magnificent pause and he's played the studio version no pause So I got to the end and you were like, where was the pause? Yeah, he was like, what?

He's like, I swear there was a pause. That's so great. Right, no. But he loved a playlist. You're done. A friend who also is in a dand he's done ones that are like, he's a moribs skewer. Like, I couldn't think of any of this one.

He's like, songs whereier like he I couldn't think of any of this one. He's like Songs where the singers eyes slightly Too close together It's like I don't know I don't even know where that how do you like when you draw the That one did not take off I think he put one song on it. Yeah, I reckon he had one idea and he was like, you go, bulls in your court. What is that even mean? Anyway, and then what else is... If you are out there and you know a singer who's asked a two-class to

go, the police tweeted a picture. Yeah. And what song would you choose for the playlist? Let's get it. That's right. We'll get a happy one. We'll get Dan's playlist off the ground. And also feels like a slightly main spirited playlist. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like it's not about the music. It's about this weird-looking person. But he's like, the songs are gonna be great as well. Oh, so that's just too hard.

Cowbell is a good one. Oh. Classic tunes of cowbell. Hand clapping. Like these are like what's the songs of hand clapping. But they're probably more common ones. But yeah. Fuck, I love a fucking love of playlist. You're by Wildcat, you are my saddled down over huge app. I will not. I will not settle. One of the big news items about the hottest one hundred in recent years was the Tate Contraverse. Oh yes, yes, yes. You guys familiar with that?

Am I familiar with a Tate? Yes, you've seen Taylor Swift live. Yeah, not by choice, but. Oh, come on. What do you mean by, what do you have? I got a huge fan. I accidentally paid $300 to get a suit. I didn't pay. My friend had a spare ticket. Not by choice.

And she'd been given the tickets. Did you offer to pay? I did. Well, she'd been given a ticket. She didn't pay. But from who? And ex-boyfriend. They broke up after he'd given her the tickets.

So she had two free tickets. She was like, you're coming with me. And I was like, do you want to take somebody who really wants to go? She's like no, I think it'll be funny to take you. I think I I'd mop for anything like that Especially was great. I bet you put on a great show But I but there was a girl in front of me like nearly fainting she was in tears at one point because Taylor Swift Was in the same it breathing the same air and I was just like yeah shake it off's fun All right, we done similar situations. And I was just like, yeah, shake it off, it's fun. All right, we done. In similar situations, I've seen Nickelback, I've seen Michael Boobley.

Where did you see him? He thought he'd be great. I thought he'd be great. I want to know what Nickelback was like. Well, they actually all right. I was, I just spent the boobs would be great and neither of you noticed. Boobs would be great. Was that at the end, too?

Imagine. Great. Was that at the end too? Imagine. Matt is simulating a... Just full of breasts. Just full of breasts? Oh no. So no, it was done it again. Nickelback all right. Nickelback like...

Because they get a lot of shit, but I think it's probably little too much now. Yeah, I agree. I think they've definitely tipped too far over the... It's just like the easy target thing, which is always bit annoying, but yeah, they they were fine like well We're not you think their music's much good. That's up to you. I would say that is not a shit as like as people But it is pretty shit. Yeah When they say so like I want your parents round free It's pretty good. I mean that's romantic. Get behind that.

So anyway, yeah. So the Taylor Swift controversy. So in the 2014 poll, there was a social media campaign to get Taylor Swift into the last 100 with their song, Shake It Off. And this was, and it wasn't just people talking about that a big fans of Taylor was. It was more of a shit-staring thing, right?

It was a bit of both. I think there were definitely people who were into it, but there were also, yeah, it was definitely like, let's hijack this countdown. Yeah, let's, I make a song that Triple J would never play, because it's quite an alternative station. Yeah, it kind of is, but the countdown is always.

Yeah, but it never, it doesn't have like, like, a Rihanna or a Lady Gaga or things like that. No, okay. One direction, just a beeper. Can I, I was gonna do this later, but I'll do this now. Um, here are some surprising songs that have made into the canton over the years. All right, I'll tell you whether I'm surprised. Okay, great, let me know.

Your eyebrows will tell us, Dave. You have a very expressive face. When were you born in 1990? 1990, but it's... You might not be familiar with some of these early songs. These ones are from 1993. Katie Lang, Constant Craving. Just from Katie Lang, I'm a little bit surprised.

I know she's better than other songs. Okay, I'm surprised that that made it. 1993, also, in at number 29, Ace of Base with all that she wants. Oh, that she wants is another baby. He's gone tomorrow with all that she wants Sorry, this is not helping it was like a Scandinavian no, I know who I said I haven't we talked about that before anyway again in no in any three and number 78 a 17 with deep I don't know the song, but he's 17 Was there like a boy band. Yeah, that were a pre-backstreet boys boy band

94 Kalimano confided me. I mean, that's kind of a cool song Also in 94 Tom Jones I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I'm surprised.

I'm surprised. I was top 10. Wow. Wow. That's great. They came in number 9. 95. TLC.

Waterfalls. Don't go chase. Oh, this is going to be so hard. Waterfalls. Waterfalls. Oh, this is going to be so hard. Waterfalls. Waterfalls. Waterfalls. Waterfalls. Waterfalls. Jay's so awesome. I want to fall for this. She's so awesome.

She's so awesome. She's so awesome. She's so awesome. She was so offended. She was so offended. She was so offended. But it's going to be because of that thing, which is what we were talking about.

Backroll. Backroll. It's because people hate listening to people who can sing. I cannot sing. If you were going to, like, I'm fucking about and it's like, look, this dickhead is being a fuckhead. I'll let him do a Tom Jones impression. But she can sing. Take it elsewhere.

Not on the podcast, sister. I think when you listen back to this, you will go, oh, oh no, no, no, she can't sing at all. My mistake. Um, please stick to it. I am, I'm not, I'm a bit surprised about TLC, yep. Yeah. Um, God, how are you going or nothing at all? What else?

Uh, 97, number 11, smash mouth walking on the sun. How are we going? Oh nothing at all. What else? 97 number 11 smash mouth walking on the sun Really? Man, I'll be working now. No, no man. Yeah, I'm surprised And 11 as well. Yeah, that's high 97 Column and again did it again Oh, yeah, I'm surprised. Yep. Did it again. That's surprising. Uh, 99 in 1999,

Madonna, beautiful stranger. Beautiful stranger. Yeah. And 2000 again, Madonna with the music. Wasn't that beautiful stranger in like an Austin Palace? Austin Palace, yeah. That was probably you. That might be why. And he was in the film clip.

Yeah, that's right, that's why I remember it, yeah. Do you remember what music is? What do I know what music is? Oh, yeah, Matt. Matt, have you been listening to the last hour of the show? I am music. The song by Madonna, then. Music.

Oh, yeah, is that, yeah, I do know that one. Wow. It's not music. No um I reckon I could that could be it somewhere somewhere in there she says music. She says at one point music music. Yeah so they were all I went through and skimmed through and they were all those standards. They stand out to me but they he just songs that I hadn't even heard of, but other... like, Carmine, I got another song in, but it was a duet with Nick Cave, which sort of makes it like more sense. Yeah, he met her cool. But what about the Taylor Swift thing?

What did they decide on that? So, Triple J, so it became a hashtag, which was trending in a big lake hashtag TAFE a hottest 100 and companies like Buzzfeed kind of started and KFC jumped on board and had promotions around it. But by a piece of KFC and vote for Taylor Swift. Tell us something about tell us why you wanted to vote for Taylor Swift with this hashtag and KFC hashtag and we'll give you a bucket of chickens. Yeah, yeah.

And it built up a lot of momentum. Triple J didn't comment on it until the morning of the countdown. They were just like basically giving it the no comments, which is what not commenting is sort of another way of saying that. So they didn't comment. No, thanks for explaining that to our international listeners. The no comment sort of answer in which they decided against commenting. Yeah.

They believed that... Sun's comment. Sun's comment. Well, they believed that no comment was made. Nyen commenting. More or less Dave, yeah. More or less, yeah. I mean, you're simplifying it a bit there, but. Classic Beyonce.

But then on the morning of the countdown, just after the countdown started, they released a website, which was a spoof of a Buzzfeed website with a listicle. And it was called Eight Hilarious, but totally true reasons. You won't hear Shake It Off in the hottest 100. And they listed the eight reasons they were. Number one, don't Buzzfeed the trolls. As well as being the internet's primary

source of cat gifts, Buzzfeed also is in an international media company worth approximately $850 million. It tempted shaking their hashtag way to round to directly influence a publicly voted music poll Started as a bit of a joke between myself and a few colleagues to teach those music snobs a lesson That's a quote from BuzzFeed whilst their advertisers enjoyed the sweet page views It's not legit for other media to try and troll the poll That was reason once there's eight of these reasons and they've got gifts and stuff. So yeah made it look much like that Number two haters gonna vote vote vote and I said As a result became pretty clear pretty quick that a lot of people just wanted to prod some hipsters for the lulls

So that was another reason I was yeah, I said number three Do we really want to talk about it every year basically saying if we let Taylor Swift in there next year Which has happened there anyway? There's a number three. Do we really want to talk about it every year? Basically saying if we let Taylor Swift in there next year, which has happened there anyway, there's a Bieber Oh people are trying to do it again. People trying to get beaver and but they're saying if we let Taylor Swift in it's just gonna happen every year Number four not every KFC idea is a good idea So the hottest 100s an opportunity for individuals everywhere to cast their votes for their, for reals favorite songs of the year. The invitation doesn't extend to fried chicken companies eager to wrap their greasy fingers around a freshly minted hashtag. Oh, a burn! And yeah, it's like, it's going for the burn. So whilst a chance at some free battered chook is tempting We'd prefer it if people voted for the love of music not for the love of cholesterol. Oh, that's great

Cop that's a couple of some KFC came up with a great idea this happened and they show the The one with that burgl the buns are chicken. Oh, it's so disgusting. Oh, yeah, that's right So instead of buns you had chicken holding the chicken burger together. Yeah, yeah, oh I was a photo. I just read out a photo I didn't think it could be done, but you did it. You did it. Um, did it Number five more like TK for hottest 100. I said 18 year old Adelaide rapper TK Mides I made it into the list at number 100 if Swift within she would have been bumped out so they're like what about her?

It's a bit unfair sort of thing. That's cool. They all over state a bit I think maybe they said you know what that would be it'd be a travesty. Okay, well she meant 100 so let's not yeah. They said number six 13,511 more reasons. Taylor Swift got played on Triple J a total of zero times in 2014. Adding to our cumulative total of zero play since we started as a radio station in 1975. Luckily, I mean some of those issues were born, so it's a pretty ridiculous sort of, you know. Luckily, other Australian radio stations picked up the slack and played Shake it off 13,511 times, and counting since it was released in August.

If we include it, oh, there's another photo. I'm going to read it anyway. If we include it every song we never played on our website shortlist, it'd be as big as this comically large cat. And is it a picture, wait, is it a picture of a rather large cat? That is a large cat. That is a... The nurse holding that cat, or vet nurse,

but probably presumably looks, looks in pain. Yeah. From holding that comically large cat. That's quite a big cat, but I have seen a tiger. Comically so? I have seen a tiger. Ah, me too. So.

I wasn't going to read all these out, because this does feel a bit tedious. Number seven, I'm number one, so watch my heart out. And that's saying, after all the tweets, et cetera, and trolling everything corporate intervention Shake it off still only got enough votes to become number 12. All right. I was gonna ask you for a list of it

Was gonna be number one. Yeah, so they said they're basically saying on that one They're like still with all that stuff still didn't beat Chef Faker because he got thousands more votes That's kind of cool. And take, number 12 was pretty good. I mean, yeah. I didn't really, I was just like, whatever they decided, I don't really give a fuck, it's their count down, whatever. Drinking these ever just been like one vote in it between, say number one and number two?

It hasn't been, but I'll tell you soon, the closest ever between one and two, and it was pretty close. Cool. But normally it's hundreds or thousands of votes, but yeah. And then the final eight reason was, I mean, I think you're stretching to cause a reason, but it was,

we ain't even mad. That's reason number eight. They're saying, to be clear, Triple J doesn't have a beef with Taylor Swift. She's smart, she's cool, she's successful, and she has great taste in BFFs. I got a photo of her with Lord. Ah.

She's funny. Yeah. It's like Lord and another huge intellectual pop star. They're happy to play her, but anyway, whatever. It's like it's an interesting line where you draw the between two pop doesn't need it or what. Two commercial, yep. Well, I think the line is probably just whether you play it on your station or not. But not necessarily because they've also had songs make their countdown in the past that never got played as well. And they even said on their website that you can vote for songs they haven't been played, it's not an issue. So they played Lord because she wasn't big when they started playing, I guess. So they maybe they see her as their own But what but if people had just voted for Taylor Swift

Without the huge push. Yeah, then they would have had no way of it would have been a lot harder to justify Porn it and would they have though? They should I they should they would say they wouldn't have But I mean there would have been no publicity about it people wouldn't even know I guess some people inside there would know. But I'd say they would play it. I mean, that's why they've played Madonna in the past. It's up because there was no... That's people vote for.

Yeah, there was no hashtag for Madonna. She just got the votes. So I reckon they definitely would. And they do put in... There are heaps of really commercial songs that don't get a lot of Triple J play. It's just, yeah. I think it's, it makes sense to me because I think the main one is if they let it in, it was the, can now get hijacked. Every year it'd be more of those things

until it was just like unrecognizable and they'd have no control over it to just be Twitter would decide. Yeah. Hashtag get do-go into the Triple J Huttest 100. It's a long hashtag episode six of our show Whatever that's a really long. I get that in the top. Is it still the one hashtag that everything you say? It's the long hashtag. I haven't even signed off. I don't even think that's enough. Still part of the hashtag You got too many characters stop typing now. That's too many characters. I'm gonna be a three or four part It's fine triple J will listen then. Please don't tweet that.

On our account. Please Dave. If you tweet it, we will delete it. Tweet it, delete it. Hashtag. If you tweet it, we will delete it. Yeah, that you can hash it in. You got to sign off your hashtags.

You don't have to write in hashtags. When you, the pause means in this case. Put that in your playlist. Put that in your man's market. One, I don't even know what that means. And then they finish with this, which is always, it feels like a, I hate when people, if someone's upset about something, I hate when people say stuff like this.

They go, now it's time to take a breath. Remember, there's a lot of other shit going on in the world. I just enjoy the tunes for what they are. You know what I'm doing? There's a lot of other shit going on in the world and just enjoy the tunes for what they are You know, there's a lot of I'm upset about this and I also am all and I know there's bad stuff happening I'm also worried about that But I'm like don't tell me I can't have an opinion be worried about this anyway Also if you think about that all the time what's the point in voting for a shitty Anything a lot of bad stuff going on. I think the point is like, don't waste your time.

Pick your battles. Yeah, like, you know, short-listing songs. Don't spend four hours making a top 10 for the music. It's like, I think it's kind of like picky battles. Like, yeah, get fired up over, you know, really important causes. But it's just a list, like, just like... Oh, yeah. I have no problem with them. Well, I'm no problem with them.

Well, I'm taking it out, shaking it off, shaking it out, whatever. Interestingly, in 2002, Triple J hosts Will Anderson, and Adam Spencer had their own sort of push to get a song into the countdown. Yeah, shocked by that. Yeah, look at these eyebrows. What was the song actually don't know? So in 2002 these guys were the breakfast sauce and they created a fictional metal band named Sam and Hater and they gave the band

that's really good. They gave the band a history, including that they were from the hills of Glenelgen Adelaide, and that they were part of the South Australian Fish Metal scene, which included bands such as Trap Destroyer. And they came up with the name of Seminhade's first single, which was 6.66, 100th of the number of the beasts. Yeah, that's a big math and math game. Yeah, it's a real nerdy guy. And then not long after they were joking about that on it, just talking shit, they got a CD on their desk. They'd been sent in without them asking for it,

someone had gone out and recorded. And recorded the song, 6. is one hundredths of the number of the beast. And so they played it a few times on the show and then started joking about how the listeners should vote for it in the hottest 100. And they did. And it came in at number 26. Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize that. That's really see that's fun. That's more fun because it's part of the station. Yeah, that's fun the station For the song not and it went total I I agree with that as well, but it doesn't tickle the box those eight boxes that they had like it still pushes out

TK mods are from a hundred position right for a joke song that they made up for fun So it's still sort of it's still going at, but that was also along, that was 12 years ago. I just want to say Matt, take a deep breath. Think about, there's a lot of shit going on in the world. Just enjoy the truth. I hadn't thought about that, but there isn't there. Oh my god. Even in 2002, apparently that was shit going on in the world, so.

What am I doing on this fucking podcast? Sorry. Yeah, healing people. With your magic powers. I'm going to get a doctorate of podcasting, and Sorry. Yeah. Healing people. With your magic powers. I'm going to get a doctorate of podcast to be, and I'm going to heal people. I still like for a long time, I'm like, you're a doctor. It's medical.

You're a medical doctor. You can't be a doctor. You can people who say they're a doctor. Doctor something. You call yourself doctor something. I'm like, it needs to be. I reckon too. If I had a doctor, I don't think I could call myself doctor one.

But my, my car, it doesn't even use his doctor title doctor title because he scared that like he'd be on a plane and somebody be like Dr. Nelson help us. This is something hard attack and he's like I have basic first aid. I don't know I can't break is okay? I can crack his back pretty good. I can line him up good, but I cannot save his life It is it is total like why do you need it anyway? It funny when people because like we were talking about with monarchy and stuff, seers, nights of the the order of Australia and stuff, you get to choose where I'm not used the name. So how can you use sir? If I was a sir. Yeah. If I was elderly and respect. So David wore a key. Do you get to choose if he yeah because people would refer to you as sir you don't have to I wouldn't say hey guys

I'm sir David you can opt out you can be so Dave and have to be David There's no reason that you have these things apart from going on people who like find you Send out your um telephone bill. Oh, this is for a sir Matthews you know you could be it might be a You could be a name. It could be a name. Name's not as good. Have they gotten rid of that yet in Australia? Name. Name's in Sears.

I know Abba brought it back, but surely that it was gonna be taken away. You know when, like, as a doctor, it's prestigious to be doctor, so-and-so. But if you're a surgeon, it's back to Mr. Yes, yeah. And they're like, you're breaking up. But if you call a surgeon doctor, they back to Mr. Yeah, yeah, and they're like, You're bringing it to you. But if you, if you call a surgeon doctor,

they'll correct you and be like, Mr. But then how do, how do people know? How do they differentiate? You just say, You may just say, Mr. It's not all, it's not Spelt different.

What they do is they look at the Maserati in your driveway and they realize that you This is probably a surgeon. It's Garza. Arawanka. He's a surgeon of podcasting this is a sure um slice an undyced and rolls

that's pretty good but I don't put that on a raise thank you for that um so the salmon hate a song came in at number 26 and it came in ahead of songs like the songs at the handful after that were by bands like the vines silver chair body jar on hearts, like all these big bands, this is so weird. So weird. I'm impressed. I'm impressed. If you take a deep breath, you realize

it's not that weird and that weird thing's happening. Well, I never thought about this in the context of the world. Um, bloody hell, this is, it's pretty hard, it's actually hard to be impressed by anything when you start thinking about that. Yeah, that's right, it's like, and we're all just gonna die, you know, like, um, just hope you don't mind if I end on fun facts and this is kind of your thing. No, but I like that it's really been started becoming a thing for everyone. Yeah, I like it. It's just a nice way to end.

Okay, so I'll hit you with some. We'll call them the Jess Perkins Fun Facts. Yeah, JPF. JPF. Now, and I also, I want to bring this in, I've just sort of that then. I'll tell you the fact, I'm not going to say they're fun facts. I want you Jess to tell me whether or not it's a fun fact. Love it.

Fun or unfun? Oh, wow! Be brittle. You've got to be you've got to be honest. I don't I don't if these are all fun Then I'm out. Okay. This is the last podcast. I'll do you got to be honest with me. Okay I need you to respect my intelligence please Okay first act the longest average duration of songs in the hottest 100 was 4 minutes and 16 seconds in 1995 and the shortest average duration of songs was in 1998 with 3 minutes and 38 seconds. Interesting, not fun.

Okay, there's the benchmarks, sir. Well, it's interesting, but I wouldn't tell it at a party, you know. I wonder if in the background we've got Sammy Jane Randy rehearsing, I'm just going it at a party, you know? Oh. I wonder if, in the background, we've got Sammy J and Randy rehearsing. I'm just gonna do a quick, they, because they're a musical act. I wonder if Sammy J's ever charted in the hottest one hundred.

No results. Is that a fun fact? No. No, okay. Now the fact, in 2006, with their song Wake Up, coming in at number 53 the living end made it into the countdown for the tenth year in a row. That is pretty fun fact.

Only band ever do that. I did like living it. I did like that song. Suicidal education. And there's so they've got the record for that. There's been a bunch of other bands that have been in consecutive years. Dave Grohl, which over different acts, made it in nine times, between 93 and 2001. Whitlam's made it in seven years or over between 96 and 02.

We're girded to Tata between 95 and 01, made it seven times. And something for Kate also made it seven times between 97 and 2003. These are very facty. Not that fun. Okay, great. All right. These are very facty. Not that fun. Okay, great. All right. Again, interesting. Interesting fact.

But you're missing the point of the fun facts, which is the fun bits. Right. Come on, Pat. These are just facts, which they're the whole show. I mean, now there's need to be fun. You have just written facts. You haven't written fun. Okay?

All right. So I was aware at 3am this morning. In 2005 Wolfmother had six tracks in the 100. Really? The same with the Canaan, but they do that. I just still a record. It was pretty much half their album. It's half their album, yeah.

Album. That's not nameless. That's not nameless. All right, that's not nameless. I thought you wanted fun, fact. I wanted to sing them, that's all um there's been seven foreign language songs that have made the count of years 99 loved nine Very good. What what's some foreign language ones? I haven't heard of

Half of these okay names. I know I've heard of half of these. Okay, okay, I don't know this one Agilogue by Angelique Kijoo I've heard of half of these. Okay. I don't know this one. Agalo by Angelique Kidjo. Nope. Came in at number 99 in 1994. And they languages, Yeruba, which I don't know. I don't know any of these things. So that was the only one in the whole 90s that was fine language.

And the 2000 has been a few more. Ramstein's links to 34. I was surprised. Do Haas didn't seem to appear anywhere, which is surprising. And that was a German song, came in on the 17th. Camille French singer, Tadouleur. That's probably not right, but it sounded French. Came in on the 29th. I think that's someone who goes Oh, is that racist from Mumbling the French words? Oh, ready? Sigour Ross's gobble-dee-gook

Coming in on the 90's 3 That's racist Look at that If you can't pronounce the words don't just make him up. That's so good. Oh no. That's the hardest I've ever got ever broken them. Yes.

So govity govity which is a real somewhere siguros coming up in 93 in 2008. It's Icelandic. Oh. Yeah. It's a word in. I don't think it is Yeah, there's something It's not that I'm gonna cut you off right there not fun In 2002 Dave Grohl was involved with 10 tracks in the hundred

Wow, cuz he's queen's the same as drummer as well The queen's the same age drummer who had five songs in the piano, four songs with food fighters, and one with Navanna. With Navanna had a greatest hits release that year with a new- Oh, a new song. Oh wow, 10% they've grown what a- 10% what a go. That's great. I was telling you- That was fun. That was a fun fact. That's two fun facts. How many to become a list of fun facts? You need one more. I can-

One more, okay. Actually has to be fun. I think you might love this one. I bet. Probably won't. So, I was saying before our thrift shop was the only... The first time I've been... I'm gonna pop some tags, only got $20 in my pocket. Yeah. I'm running.

Look at the phone, I'm up. This is fucking awesome. So, that was the first time I only... Uh, hip-hop song to make number one so far. Mm-hmm. Before that, that was the first and only Hip-hop song to make number one so far Before that there was a few songs that made number three. So they were all the equal highest They were cool. Yo's gangster's palette us 95 Gorilla's featuring D last soul with feel good ink in 2005 also enjoyed and

Hilltop Hood's three times have been number three. Oh, that hurts. And with high road chase that feeling, Cosby Sweater and O609 and 14, I was gonna say it was interesting. I didn't wanna show the end, but that is, is that? Three times for three, that's pretty, that's kind of fun. All right. I guess it's fun.

Well you have it, that's a third fun fact. Third time. Yeah, I made it. I'll give you, there That's a third fun fact. Third time. Yeah, I might it. I'll give you a couple more here. Get through one of them answers a question of Jess earlier. Oh, hopefully that's fun. But firstly, we were talking about this before as well.

There's been many instances of songs making they count down without any triple J air play called in this article, I read. Although there are no real records of songs that were played on Chibble J in the 90s. Now they've got those websites like J Play and stuff which tracks it all. But it's believed that Alana Smarraset was never played on Chibble J and in 1995 she had three songs in the countdown you ought to know Hand in my pocket Not singing. I can't do a last one and all I really want You two reportedly reached number 40 with elevation despite not getting any app play in 2001

I'll see what you'll sing you too, but you won't sing a lanus In 2009, my best fighters came in at number 100 with their song wheels Which is like a bonus track of their greatest hits or something and that was never played and then apparently Sunsand writes me but apparently in 2014 See as chandelier was never played on triple J. I'm not gonna do it. I thought you're gonna sing chandelier No, I can't hit that note. We'll do the bit without the note. It's all that note.

Yeah, fair enough. All right. No, worth out of. Chandelier. Nope. Save. No. She knows the limits though.

I think Evan just probably cried downstairs. Here's the final fact. And this one. All right, this better be fun. I think it's fun So Jess you asked before what the closest yeah between one and two was this happened in 2007 when hot favorite straight lines by silver chair was pipped at the post at the post by only 14 votes Wow

That's not many at all. I wouldn't have voted that year so I could have made that 13 Do you know what it was? No, it was straight line. Muses, knots of Sedona. Oh, that's a pretty great. But is it fun? Yeah, it's fun. That was fun fact 14 guys, so let's do it. She's fist pumping. Stop now. Okay, well anyway, that was that was a pretty loose episode about things on Out on and about the hottest 100 any further questions. Do I have any questions? Well by the time this come my question Is what will be number one and by for 2015 by the time we come Well, the time I come out I just my on cum. Soon as cum came out, he broke.

Do I have any questions? Yeah, where do you get all of them? Question one. My only question remaining is, what will be number one for 2015 when it comes out the day Before this is released so everyone you can at if you're listening to this you can Google you can find out if Kendrick Lamar's Joke song King Kuntar made number one a joke song. I'm surprised it's favorite now. That's pretty cool Am I too late to get in? Jerk in if I put something on YouTube tonight to get into the hottest one Iurekin, if I put something on YouTube tonight, to get into the hottest one, I reckon I could.

If you put something on YouTube tonight. So just Google, House 100 for 2015, see if just Perkins made the 100, we're going to find out. Without hashtag help it's going to be tricky. Nah, I reckon I can do it. I've got a following. All right, well on that note, thank you so much for listening everyone. Which note, give us a note, Jess. On that note, thank you so much for listening everyone. Which note gives a note, Jess. On that note, right there. Thanks very much for listening.

Matt did go on about a topic that I feel like you had a bit of passion for, so that was good. Little bit. Little bit. Not like you and the Queen, nothing like that. I know, well. Lovey Lizzy. You can't compare much to.

No, you can't compare. Oh, a Shenandoah Conor over it, Anyway, Jess is going to be back next week, hopefully not singing, but doing a report, possibly a musical report. In the meantime, please do go on to follow us on Twitter at do go on Pud and we will catch you next time. Thank you so much for listening and for me I say goodbye. Bye Shenato, kind of made it many times latest That was not fun

That fact Or the whole show That fact! I'm in the fact! I'm a multi-millionaire and I have no worries about PAPS. It's a popular vote. People, I find it funny every year, people like. So commercial. It's got so commercial. It's like every year.

It's the most popular song when millions of people have voted anything. It's going to be a pretty popular song. That's how popular votes work. You're fucking idiot. LAUGHTER Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT.

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