Do Go On - 14 - Triple J's Hottest 100

Episode Date: January 27, 2016

Triple J's Hottest 100 is "the world's biggest musical democracy", a music countdown with a 20+ year history. Matt talks the guys through its beginnings and some interesting facts and figures. Dave tells us how he could've been a doctor. And Jess finds her singing voice. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Melbourne and Canada, we got exciting news for you. And we should also say this is 2026. Jess, what year is it? 2026. Thank God you're here. Right now, I'm in Melbourne doing my show with Serenja Amana, 630 each night at the Cooper's Inn Hotel, having so much fun. We'd love to see you there. Canada, we are visiting you in September this year.

If you've somehow missed the news, we are heading up Vancouver, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto for shows. That's going to be so much fun. Tickets for all this stuff, I believe, are online. And I'm here too. And welcome to do go on another episode of our podcast, possibly your first episode. Could be a thing. My name is Dave Warnacky, and I am here with my co-host,

my chums. Jess Perkins is my number one introductory this week. Yes. Hi, Dave. That is bullshit. Yeah, Perkins. Hello, Jess Perkins. And you are, of course, a rival to your co-host, Matt Stewart.

Oh, he's taken that off my hands. Normally I get to introduce someone. Mm-hmm. That's right. Now, neither of us get to. He does it all. Well, I was always third, and it's nice to be introduced. That's right.

I'm playing you up against each other. It's really fun. No, we're a team. Yeah. Come at us. We were talking... Come at us, fuck Ed. We were talking...

Oh, let's put that on a t-shirt. That is early on in the podcast to be... To be a confrontation. Well, I'm a friend of fuckhead, but there you go. Here we are. And a few people have stopped listening. Thanks for sticking with us, everyone else. I swear we're friends. I swear we are.

We're talking off there about if we were Destiny's Child, the early 2000s R&B group, who we would be and Matt Stewart. You decided yourself that you are the Michelle Williams, the third most popular memory. I did not at all decide that. Apart from the fact that I wouldn't have known her name, you said you're definitely the Michelle Williams.

So I don't see how... Well, I just wanted to be the Beyonce of the group, leaving Jess the Kelly Rollins. But then Jess started singing and yeah, we all decided. She had the best voice. What sweet Vox she has. They definitely had. I do break into song a lot in this podcast.

Really? Too much. Michelle Williams, if you're not familiar as the one, who was often given the third half verse or the bridge as her solo. So she would only sing for a little. So Matt, that's pretty good. You still get a bridge. Look, I'm happy to be in one of the most successful all-girl groups of all time. That's right.

Without having to worry about any of the, you know, the bullshit. You're happy to be the little fish in a big pond? That's right. That's all I want. I just want to be a little fish in a big pond. Still in the pond. And I'm happy to be married to Jay-Z. And I'm, I had that song with Nelly one time.

Yeah. And I don't know what I've done since. I assume I'm happy though. Yeah, money. Just swimming in cash. So much cash. I got a pool full of one. For cash.

Poofoo. Poofoo. Michelle Williams also shares her name with the Michelle Williams Dorses Creek actress, so there's something to us. And Heath Ledger, mother of his child. Yes, correct. The mother of Heath Ledger's child probably would have made more sense. That's okay. Wow, you know.

And here we all are. Here we are. The child of destiny, one, two, three. Okay. What a weird way to start. So, it's Matt Stewart, aka Michelle Williams. Your turn to do a report. What we do on the show is we do a report.

report on one single topic. We each take it in turns to write that report and come back with the report to the class. Now, Matt, it's your turn, like I say. We don't know what you're going to talk about. Are you excited? Yes. Yes, I am. I can hear it in your voice. You have admitted to being up very late last night writing this, and also this morning, you're a little bit late to this recording, so you could continue the writing session. If this is a school class, I am definitely cramming. probably worse than I ever have before. But if I can squeeze out a C plus, I'll take it. All right.

Well, we'll just up the enthusiasm. I just want to say, going for a C plus is a very Michelle Williams attitude. Beyonce would go for an A plus. Kelly, probably a B plus, C plus for Michelle. That's about right, actually, for us, isn't it? I feel like Beyonce probably wouldn't go for an A plus. She'd just get one. She's born with it.

Maybe she's born with it. But you're cheapening her hard work as well, yeah. Yeah. I am. Fuck you, Beyonce. I like Beyonce. My sister's played me some Beyonce from recent years. There's some really sweet stuff in there.

She's a very talented woman. Nobody's arguing. Thank you. I'm taking this like you're talking about my work ethic. Thank you. Yes, I do work very hard. I'm a talented woman and I'm powerful. I am dangerously in love.

You're a strong independent lady? No. No, she's not. She's married. And neither am I. I'm not a single lady either. So the similarities are endless between us. It's all adding up.

It's all adding up. Well, yeah, okay. Can you want... Sorry, if you want to go on... Sorry, Beyonce likes to talk about herself more than Michelle. So going for the C-plus today is you, Matt Stewart. We always start with a question just to lead us into the topic. Yeah, I think if you know this, if you know this topic, you'll probably know this is basically their marketing...

marketing, it's a marketing thing. A stretch of words in like a short sentence. It's like a phrase used for marketing purposes. Sure. It's like a logo, but a sentence. Okay. What do you call those things? What, like a tagline?

Like a tagline. Okay. A motto? A motto. It's like a motto. I'm going to say it's like a marketing motto. Okay. What's just do it for Nike?

It's like a... Yeah, that's their tagline. Does he say Tang-Han? Yeah, I think so, yeah. That would definitely be copyrighted too. So, yeah, right. So if you know this thing, you'll know this. Slogan.

Slogan, that's what I was trying to do. Oh, that is fucked at three. This took so long to remember slogan. But I'd like to point out that Kelly Rowland got it. She did. Yeah, they did get it, which are more reason to believe that maybe Kelly is actually Beyonce. Sorry, I was secretly writing a Grammy Award winning album in the corner here, so. Do try to pay attention.

Another one. No, slogan. That's a much better word. Moto. Okay. Slogan. So the question is, what is the world's largest music democracy? What?

Maybe it's not that well-known of a... Oh, yes, I think I know what you mean. Do you have any idea what he's talking about? Music democracy. A musical democracy where people would vote on music. Like the Grammys? Or like, no? But more, I think the logic of why they call it this is because so many people vote.

Like the grammar. Oh, yeah, I'm with you now. Yep, I'm sorry, Matt, are you talking about the triple J hottest 100 countdown? I'm talking about the triple J hottest 100 countdown. Oh, very nice. Very good. So.

I think we should give context for people that might be from overseas. If you could, thank you. Were you planning to do that or should I just say it? No, no, you're the guy. Because I think of myself as I'm a guy who talks to Australians. I can communicate with your, Every man in Australia. So you're trying to say you're a podcast racist.

I don't, I can't. If someone's listening in Taiwan, turn off is what you're saying. Well, I wasn't thinking Taiwan. I was thinking, you know, like maybe America or something like that. I feel like you can talk. You've got the tongues. If you were like a biblical person, you'd be one of those guys doing the tongues. You talk and everyone understands.

I'm doing the tongues. I'm doing the tongues. Yeah, you're going down. I love that. That's a great phrase. Yeah. Doing the tongues. I'm going down, doing the tongues.

Oh. So you did just say going down. But I'm going to edit that bit out. I like it. I can just have you saying it. Gladly. That's my slogan. Going down doing the tongues.

If you could go down doing the tongues for our international listeners. Biblically. I don't enjoy any of this. All right. So Triple J is, if you are from overseas or if you're an un-Australian person, is an Australia's largest national youth broadcast radio station. It's sort of government funded. It's part of the ABC,

which is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. And the hottest 100, are you going to explain what that is? Yeah, I can talk about that. So, yeah, it's pretty much just our largest youth music station that's sort of aimed between people at what, 16 to 35 kind of thing? That's right, yeah.

That's the idea. I think it's probably aiming even younger than that. Yes, maybe 12 to 30, to be honest, yeah. Yeah, so it's, do you know when it began? How far it goes back? The Triple J hottest 100. 100 years ago, I assume, because that's why they call it the hottest 100. Is it like maybe the late 80s or something?

Yeah, late 80s, 89. Huh. Which was the same year that Triple J or Double J went national, became Triple J. Okay, so it used to be called Double J. Double J and was Sydney only. So yeah, so the hottest 100 began in 1989 after a Triple J staffer named Laurie Zion. Who was one of my lecturers at La Trobe University? No shit, that's great.

That's cool. Tell me more about him because I don't have a lot on him. Oh, he's a great guy. He's the head of journalism at La Trobe University of Bandura campus in Melbourne. He's a cool guy. His office number is level two. I applied to do a PhD and he was going to be one of my co-supervisors. But I decided not to do it.

What were you going to be a doctor in? I was going to do a PhD about podcasts. I was going to write about it. I'm not kidding. Not kidding. I twice applied. I wanted a scholarship so they'd pay you to do it. I didn't quite get the scholarship, but I got a place,

but they weren't going to pay me to do it. It's like they would just be a... Do you know what I mean? You can get like a wage from the government to research something, which is so dumb, I realize, because come on. Does anyone need my podcast research? And yeah, Laurie Zine was going to be one of my co-supervisors and a very great guy.

That's cool. That's so cool. I wish you were a doctor of podcasts. Oh, man. We could put that all over our podcast. We have a doctor. of podcasts on here. I still might do it one day.

I still could do it. Please do it. I've got the application. I don't know. I can just fire it back in. And you've got heaps of content now to work on. No, now I've got the inside knowledge. Yeah.

There really, there couldn't be many doctors of podcasting in the world. You could get us like two more listeners. Yeah. Laurie Zion would have to listen. And I don't know, maybe, uh, no, it's probably one. You get one more listener. I didn't know that he started the Triple J Hollis. Yeah, he came up with the idea.

I knew that he used to. to be a triple jac sort of broadcaster and he's made documentaries and stuff for the ABC and he's a yeah cool guy that's been in journalism for so long but awesome yeah what a cool thing to hang it out i wish i'd know that yeah yeah i'm like a guy lecturing you who's got something like that in their past it would be hard not to bring that up yeah you think so it reminds me at the time when i started the world's largest musical democracy but i that is such a cool thing that he didn't have to go on about that yeah that's true too what a cool guy What, jeez, even cooler.

And he knew that one day you'd find out. That's right. Through the medium of podcasting. Yeah. See, it's got potential people. Someone sponsored me to do this goddamn PhD. What's not a possible campaign? I've seen a couple of different things.

We should. Yeah. We shouldn't. Sorry, Matt. Just to the government. The government can kick-starter. By petition. Malcolm Turnbull, the Prime Minister of Australia,

to pay me a wage. So he, apparently, from somewhere I was reading that he got the idea from a Brisbane community station, I think it was like four triple Z or something like that. And they had a yearly countdown called the Hot 100, I believe. Oh, okay. So it's quite hot, but not the hottest. But that's what the Triple J one was initially called, the Double J hot 100. And the first three years, it was all time.

There was no restriction on the year. that you had to vote for. So, yeah, you vote for these days it's for the previous calendar year. That's right. Your favourite 100 songs from the country. But at the start, was it just of all time? It was all time. Vote for the Beatles, vote for...

Yeah, exactly. So the first year, Love will tear us apart by Joy Division was number one. And the second year, so it's 89 and 90 again was number one. Wow. then the third year Loveable Terrace Apart was number two with the new song Smells Like Teen Spirit

Oh And so it went straight to be the greatest song of all time Yeah but I mean that kind of shows a bit of a fault with it Because when you've got an all-time countdown And they've done all-time countdown since then There's always a few songs that are from that year It's like you really need to give songs a little bit of space before you call them best song of all time, right?

Yeah, I think so. I feel like you're in the moment. You're thinking, this is the best. Hang on, fast forward six months. You're still going to love this? I mean, you're going to love it, but is it better than Joy Division? You need some sort of a quarantine system.

But as it turns out, like 20 years later, they did another all-time count and it smells like Teen Spirit topped it again. So in that case, they nailed it. But, yeah, in other cases, like... But was it fairly similar year-to-year-to-eat? because I can imagine that every year can it change that much?

It didn't, yeah, that was the thing. It was fairly repetitive, so I think that was one of the main reasons where they decided to change it up. So maybe 90 to 100 changes a bit, but the top 10. Yeah, they did switch around in positions a bit, some songs, but yeah, for the most part it was, you know, a pretty similar countdown. Yeah, so I guess that was one of the main reasons

why they decided to make it a yearly thing instead, just because it was going to get monotonous. And like in the end it was a very smart decision because people care about it. And it's like a little, every one is a little, it's like a time capsule. Yeah,

it's cool to look back at the list of what the top 10 from every year was. Yeah, there's some fucking shit songs in every countdown. I've looked through them all and there's some pretty awful stuff. Like sort of joke songs. But there's still some great stuff as well.

Yeah, there's songs that you just don't remember at all, don't have the staying power, and then other songs that, just classics that didn't rank as high as you might have thought yeah anyway um so what year was the first uh hottest 100 of the previous year so they they after the first three they had a year off um bit of time to regroup yeah yeah that's right they were like they were sort of bit of time to rework it and then they did uh the 1993 countdown was the first one first yearly count so for the previous year

yeah for the uh for the year of 93 okay cool so it was And the first one was actually counted down on the 5th of March, 1989, but now they do it yearly on Australia Day. Which is January the 26th, and it's sort of a bit of a popular thing to have a barbecue and listen to the Hot 100. Because Australia Day is a public holiday in Australia, so most people have the day of work.

Yeah. Do you know, I don't know if you're going to go into this, but how did they collect all that data back then pre-internet? Are you going to go into that? I can, yeah, I'll talk. I don't want to... No, no, I wasn't going to go into it, but that's a good question. Yeah, so...

Because now everybody just does it online, right? Yeah, it's all online now. But back then it was mail-in. Yeah, I was going to say it. And did you have to list 100? No, you're still the same as now. You vote for your top 10. Okay.

And they were told to write them on the back of an envelope, and it took months and months to collate the vote. Whoa. You wrote them on the back of an envelope. Yeah, that would have been like a... Yeah, that was what they said. So people can see your votes. It's not very secretive in that respect.

Does it have to be secret? You shouldn't be ashamed of your music taste. Australia posts are going, they're reading. They're looking at going, oh, what are you thinking? Bit of Scoot. But at the time, you know, when something like, they didn't know this was going to be big or anything at all. It was just like a fun project. But you know how in retail, like, it gets to the busy time of year and they put on Christmas casuals just for, like, those few months to help with the busy time?

Do you reckon they employed people just to come in and take all that day? data and help with that probably. They probably should have. Like a posty person. Not a posty person. Just like, just a few extra people on hand at Triple J to read all the votes and some some data input. Well, yeah, do you know how many, how big it was when it first started?

True. It wouldn't have been as big as it is now. Yeah, it was way small. Now they're into the millions of votes. But then it was, it was nowhere near as big. But they got, apparently they got some quite funny. Submissions? Submissions in terms of the medium that was used instead of envelopes, like,

apparently someone sent in a canvas with them painted on their votes someone sent a sculpture with it chiseled in and apparently someone from someone who was in prison sent 10 robes cigarettes with the votes written on the cigarettes

what a waste of cigarettes yeah no like that's like throwing money away in jail don't they barter with them and yeah idiot he's just passionate about the music. Good for him. Yeah, good on him. Or probably a full bullshit story, but you know what?

I read it on the internet, so. It's probably true. That's truth, truth. Truth on the internet. Preach. And so that, that was the first time also that it was called the Hottest 100, supposedly was the fourth one, the first yearly one. All right.

Do you know the song that won, that topped the first countdown? 93. Is it the cranberries? Come on, Dave, we were three. No, that were the following year. We were three years old, Dave. What were you listening to when you were three? The only older one I know that one is the cranberries, a zombie.

Zombie, zombie. We used to have to, we had a... Cranberries actually were number three in the first, in the 93 countdown. With Linger. That song, I used to think it was a great song until when I was in year seven, we... Do you study it in music? Yeah, did you do what in music? Yes, I was going to play it on guitar.

So you had to... Because it's only like four chords. the chorus bit, but we had a tone deaf music teacher who would sing over to the top. Tone deaf music teacher, what's going on? It was so great. It's not good. Yeah, we studied it in New 7. I was going to say that.

That's so weird. You guys are the same. We're the same person. Same person. Same destiny child. All right. So the first, well, the first song was a number one in 1903. It was a gimmicky song.

It was a comedy song. Oh, is it? I'm an asshole. It was the asshole by Dennis Leary. Do you know that song? Yeah, do. Yeah. That was the number one song.

Number one song. But I mean, that's the kind of thing that would come up, you know. But they thought, this has got legs. This is really good. Well, you know, at the time, it was quite a catchy song. I think it's sold pretty well commercially as well. But number two was Creep by Radiohead, which is still a scene as a classic. Well, obviously, that's not quite as good as I'm an asshole.

Yeah. It's like, if you go through the top 10 of that year, I think most of those are still seen as been pretty great. What else we got? Blind Melon, No Rain. Great. tune. Okay. The breed is cannonball.

Rage against the Machine, killing in the name. Well, I'm still, it's, they're just no asshole, but please. Yeah, that's true. Yorn. I can't go on because nothing's going to be asshole, is it? I'm an asshole. Wow, my God. Yo, yo.

Yeah, so that was the first countdown. Cranberries did top the next one with zombie. You'll be pleased to hear. Did you, sorry, how does zombie go? No, I'm not seeing it. I won't. I can't remember. I shan't.

I can't remember the tune. It's not good. I found this Latrobe University press release about an ongoing study they've been doing into trying to figure out characteristics of songs and artists that tend to do better in the poll. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Is there a lot of joke songs and stuff in there? Relative to how songs chart and the aria, the normal aria charts, the popular chart.

It is relative. So if it goes to number one in the Australian chart, it's more likely to be... This Dr. Liam Lenton, could have been a colleague of mine decided to avoid a career in academia I love the idea of Dave as a doctor Dr Dave I'm trying to work out

So that I would How long would I've done now I'd be going into my third and final year Damn I should have done it I should have done it It's not too late buddy It's not too late No I could do it part time over six years

I could become a doctor secretly But now I've told people on a podcast Yeah but nobody Not a huge secret Well I mean it is this podcast So it is still pretty big secret. That's right. Because no one really listens.

Hey, we do all right. We do all right. We're doing great. Hey, we've been in the top 20. That's right. Thanks everybody for listening. Thank you so much. Oh, no.

Yeah, that sounded me. Yeah, Matt's the ungrateful piece of shit. But Dave and I appreciate you. No, I'm impressed. I'm actually impressed with the numbers. I was deprecating, right? No, you're a piece of it. But all I was doing was telling our listeners that...

You were hurting people. They're worthless. They're worthless. Yeah, sorry everybody. Sorry, everybody. Sorry, everybody. Sorry, everybody. So what does Dr. Liam at La Trobe say?

These are some of the things they've found to be advantageous to a song getting in the... Oh, you're trying to write the perfect song to get in there? Yeah, I want to know the perfect song. Well, comedy song is clearly the... Comedy song definitely else. You just need one comedy song. There's been a bunch of comedy songs have made up. But they didn't know that.

They said promotion and airplay on the station is an advantage, which probably... Oh, yeah. These days, I feel like every song that is number of... one, it's always been something that Triple Jay have smashed all year, right? Not necessarily. I think what I've found is that often the number one song

is a big crossover song. So Triple J will play the song a bit and that artist a lot, but not necessarily that song. I feel like sometimes it starts out on Triple J, then it gets really big. Potentially. And then... Advanced Joy or something gets played on commercials

and it's just everywhere. And then, yeah, that's how it probably helps, because it's just in everyone's minds. Because I think a lot of people vote in the hottest 100 that don't necessarily listen to Triple J all the time. And I think there was that campaign last year to get Taylor Swift in there as a joke, even though that Triple J's never played it. I'm going to talk a little bit about that in a bit. Perfect. All right. So how else do we get in the...

So promotion and airplane the station is advantage, but that feels like that probably goes without saying a bit. Yeah, they took three years to work that out. Yeah. No, it's ongoing. They're still checking out. This has taken years and years. They also said that playing on Triple J festivals, like in the past Big Day Out and stuff helped

because that was their touring bands at the time when the voting's open. Oh, okay, cool, that's good. So that, like, they're in your mind. You've just seen them and thousands of people go to festivals. They've been all the Triple J Festival. Yeah, and also, I don't know if you guys do that thing, but if you're going to a festival, you listen to the bands that are going to play at that festival because you want to enjoy the music that you're going to.

recognize. Yeah, yeah, you would be more familiar. So then sort of, you might become a fan of a band or more of a fan than something you, yeah. It wouldn't have previously if you weren't going to the festival. I definitely do that. And yeah, one of those festivals I get all right is Meredith and that usually my votes is one or two Meredith bands, probably for that exact reason, I guess.

Apart from the fact that Meredith's just pick fucking sweet tunes and bands to play. His podcast now sponsored by Meredith Oh my God, I've imagined Matt would just die He'd die a happy man Also, whether or not the song It's featured as an album of the week During the year

Okay They still do that on Triple J, album of the week Yeah, and they go through and they like They just flog it And they talk about like Hey guys, this is blah blah from Powderfinger And we wrote this song when And then they play the song

So you get a bit of background You get to know the band The references we're giving make it sound like we've recorded this podcast 10 years ago. Big day out. Powder finger. It was just the first non-controversial band I thought of. Yeah, and they're also...

Well, I think they've got a big history of being number one. It's just not right. They're the only band ever to top the chart twice. And I did it in back to the years. Is that right? Yeah. And Bernard Fanning got number one with his solo song. A couple years after that.

So Bernard Fanning's had three number one. Which song of Bernard Fanning's? I just want to wish you will. I was a big Bernard Fanning fan. Fanning fan. I had like the sheet music. I used to play all these songs on piano. So sad.

I used to pretend. It's not a lot of Bernard Fanning. I'd prefer his name was Fernad Banning. Wouldn't we all? Wouldn't we all? That'd be nice. Maybe you could be a cover. Oh yeah, you should do like a tribute.

Fernad Banning. Fernad Banning. Probably already exists, I reckon. They also found that early alphabetical ordering of the song name provides an advantage. Oh, because it's often. Often a drop down these days, and you vote on the internet. So you go, you log on, you have to pick your 10 songs, and you hit a button and like songs drop down, you can sort of scroll through them.

So if your song starts with A. You can pick them A, B, C, D and just see the whole list of songs started. Oh my God. Ardvac. Just name you sung Ardva. But interestingly, they found that the band's name, which is also in it, you can also search alphabetically by band. Having your band studying with a letter early in the alphabet doesn't help. It doesn't.

No. Oh. So people, if they're searching for a band, I guess they're looking specifically. But if they're looking through songs, they're just going, let's have a, let's have a browse. Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of people. Just browsing, thanks. Thank you.

Just browsing. Do you think like a lot of people, they go in there, all guns blazing, they're like, they know their top three maybe. Like, definitely. And then they're like, oh, I've got to pick seven more. And then there's a lot of songs they know, but they're like, oh, so then they just go, oh, 8, 9, 10, A, B, C, so those people get the pity votes. So if you, if your song starts with that. You've taken the easy way out. I take the pity vote.

Oh yeah, totally. Big time. I think there's a federal senator, Australian senator who got voted in basically his party sounded like the Liberal Party, but also they do like a ballot to see where you are on the ballot. Like that's all random. And he was first and his party had liberal in the name. So he's got him based on people not reading it properly and him being right at the stuff. Okay, number one.

Done. Next. Now let's get a barbecue or whatever happens. Let's get a barbecue. That's great. That's not like, let's get a sausage is all. What have we got to do today, hon? We've got to vote.

We've got to go to buttings and get a barbecue. Get a barbecue. We've got to get a gas bottle. We've got to set it up. Yeah, probably just a sausage. Just a sausage, all right. Okay. All right, mate.

What else? So, because Triple J promotes local acts, that's part of their charter, and they have a whole month, I think November's Australian Music Month, which is just leading up to when the voting opens in December, late December. So that helps lots of Australian acts get in. Every year there's been more and more Australian acts getting into the countdown. It started off at about 25% in the first year,

and then it moved up to, in 2014, it was up to 59%. Wow. So over half the countdown is now Australian. I'm fairly sure Triple J would have in their chart that they have to play a certain percentage of Australian music. I don't know what the percentage is. So that's my. That's great.

It's obviously working. Yeah, totally. And I mean, whether or not, I think there's something about that is like, that's cool, that's great to give Australian bands leg up. It probably makes a countdown in terms of its legitimacy as a worldwide countdown. It shrinks that down a bit. You know, it's like you're saying this is a big worldwide poll, just 60% of the favorite songs.

in the world. Or Australian, of course. That's right. All those Argentinian people love Australian music. Yeah, yeah. So it makes it seem a little bit sillier. But I think it's great because they're bands that just wouldn't be heard otherwise, I suppose. You've probably heard about this over the years.

There's always a bit of controversy that males tend to dominate the countdowns. Yeah, that's right. There's always, it seems to be a preference from voters to go for male vocals, especially, but even male-dominated bands. Although, I mean, you might say the voters do that, but there's probably a chicken and egg thing, right? Because there's also probably more male artists. Who came first?

Man or woman? We'll never know. Well, in the Bible, I think it's man. And then women gets made out of the ribs. It's scientifically proven that men are superior. Is it really? Yeah. You got bigger brains.

You're stronger, smarter. We just sort of hang around until one of you marries us. and then one of us? Yeah, one of you. Oh, okay. Jeez. Fucking out.

Women. No, I'm pretty sure that there have been, I did a trivia question once, that's what I do, I write trivia questions about the only four times that female singers have featured, singers or musicians are featured in the number one slot. Really?

Yeah, only three times of vocalists. So it's the Cranberries. Cranberries was the only one with the lead vocalist. The other two was Gossier and Kimbra. Which Kimbra had a cameo. Featuring. Great song though. Angus and Julia Stone.

Yes. Well done, Dave. And also. Spider Bay. Spada Band. Janet on bass. That's right, but bass guitar. On the bass.

Yeah, but that's strange. Oh, for Southern March. And only one lead vocalist. Yeah, that's kind of sad. I say Julia Stone's probably a co-lead vocalist, but yeah. Yeah, that's true, but not. But her name does come second. Yeah.

That's just alphabetical. I think that might be alphabetical. Julia and Angus sounds. Or maybe he's the older, I don't know. Don't put the age. Well, you assume he's older because he's a man. Check out the patriarchy over here. Because men always come first.

I told you that Adam was older than even. You have an older sister. What? Do I? Do you too? Do you as well? Do I? Oh my God.

Do people bet on it? Yeah. You can, can't. It's quite big business. Yeah, it is. There's the favorite for this year, which is going to have already come out. The day before this is release. is called Major Laser Lean On, I think.

Okay. I'm seen as the strong favorite. Yeah. Cool. But what kind of odds are we looking at for if you were to bet on that? I think that one's coming like it's only a plan a few bucks. Like it's a pretty strong favorite. But it's weird.

Let's put money on it right now. There are people who know the result already. Yeah. So it's kind of crazy that you can bet on something that is already decided. Maybe we should. put $50 on it and then the listeners will know whether we've made money or not

by the time it's come out. Oh, yeah, good one. But I haven't even been paying attention. Do you know what the problem is? Like, I, for the last few years especially, I've always had to work on Australia Day. So I haven't paid as much attention to it as I would like to. Do you have a favourite year, Matt?

Oh, hang on. King Kunta's into number one favourite. That, I'm voting for that. King Kunta's at 250. Lean on 275. 250 for Kendrick Lamar. Yeah. Which to me, I don't want to put down

Kendrick Lamar like I know a lot of people like him but to me that sounds like in 10 years that will be a joke song. Oh really? I really think so. Yeah, I think people will look back and go yeah well remember that was funny. I don't think so. I think you're wrong. Let's listen back to this in 10 years. We'll meet on this very day in 10 years time. I'll feel like a fool at 35. That album's like that album's topping yearly critic charts over and over again. They're saying it's album of the year's best album critically acclaimed album. People love the album. He's changing music.

Through his album. With that album. Maybe I just don't get, I just don't really get hip-hop, to be honest. You're very wif. I've got a bone to pick with hip-hop. Interestingly, did you guys know how many hip-hop songs? Because hip-hop's obviously quite a popular genre on Triple J. How many hip-hop songs do you think have been number one in the hottest 100 countdown?

Six. I can't think of any zero. Well, it's in between you two. It's one. Ooh. I think Dave was closer. Oh, what was the big? What was the number one?

Hip hop. Hip hop. Hip hop. I mean, if you're thinking hip hop, you're probably not necessary. He's not the most hip hop of hip-hop guys, but he's like he's hip-hop. All the same. I'm out. It's only a few years ago.

Macklemore. Oh. Oh, yeah. You said this is a hip-hop song. Yeah, of course. Also a joke song, in my opinion. Yeah, it's kind of a bit of a. gimmicky song

yeah maybe yeah gimmicky is how I feel a bit like the King Kunter as well yeah yeah

alright look agree to disagree um like I feel like in like 20 years you'll be you'll come on

you'll be like yeah this is great and your kid will be like what the hell is this which I feel like we probably said about a lot of Beatles songs

or a lot of you know well Dave please have a little respect sorry to Des Kendrick Lamar R-E-S-P-E-C-T

You guys know there's been a heap of spin-off countdowns. Like, they know they're under a good thing. It's their highest rating day of the year and that sort of stuff. Oh, they do the 100 to 200 or something? They do, yeah. They now do the second 100, which is great. I often prefer that countdown because they're the sort of, they're the popular songs that have been the overplayed songs.

What other spin-offs are there? Other spin-offs they've had the hottest 100s of all time. They've done that a couple of times. They did it in... I feel like you need to say that more dramatically. Of all times. In 1999, they did it and in 2009. And like I said before, it smells like Teen Spirit, one at both times.

So I kind of like that idea of doing it every 10 years or so, kind of refreshing it. Yeah, you have a bit of time to. Yeah. Have some new songs, have some new people's opinions, yeah. They did an Australian album's hottest 100 in 2011. Oh. And that was topped by, would you believe it? Back in black.

Powderfinger. Oh, Powderfinger. I'm happier with Powderfinger. Back in black was number three. Oh, what was number two? Number two, frog stomp, silver chair. Ah. Living end, living end, number four.

And in excess kick, number five. The all-time countdowns, they changed a bit in it. I mean, it's fun to sort of see where over 10 years or in this case, 11 years, how the all-time countdown changed. So Nirvana stayed in number one spot both times. Dennis Leary in there anywhere. Dennis Leary, I don't think he was, no. Throw your arms around me, came in at number two of the all-time countdown in 98.

It also did come in at number two in the original 89 countdown and the following year in 1990. So it was a big song for Triple J and Double J listeners early on. But it started to slip in the all-time countdown of 2009. It only made number 23. Also in 1998 in the yearly countdown, Paul McDermott unplugged. from Good News Week. His version of Three Arms Around

He came into number 31. When was that, sorry? In 98. Wow. Yeah. Fact. Do you know what I frequently YouTube? Because Paul McDermott has a great voice.

He's a good singer. Good singer. And I frequently look out, but there's a song that he did. He did it at the gala one year. I can't remember what year it was. And it was called Slow Ride Home, I think. And it's amazing. He's just got these guys coming out and play with him and it's beautiful.

So YouTube that. Sweet tip. Thank you. Sweet tip. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. And then Pearl Jam in 98 in the old time cat down came in a number three with Alive.

And then 11 years later when they did the countdown again in 2009, it slipped down to 25. So a similar sort of downward trajectory to three arms around me. So in 10 years time, it might slip out of the top 50. Could do, yeah. I mean, it makes sense because it's like a. drifting further back in your memory. Interestingly, some songs come get higher up. Oh, yeah, so you can improve?

Yeah. Like a fine wine or cheese. You was wondering if they could get any, I don't know, your song gets better in your mind. Yeah. Or is it used on a campaign or something so you remember it? What does happen, like, do you know, the foo fighters ever long? Oh, yeah.

That's a great song, and that's considered a classic. Yeah, that didn't even make its yearly countdown. In the Hot 100. Yeah, so the year that that song came out, it didn't even make it. So that was from 1997. And yeah, it didn't make it in anywhere. In 2006, an acoustic version of it came in the yearly countdown at number 61. So it was starting to gain in popularity.

Then in the 2009 all-time countdown, it came in at number nine. All-time. It just went straight right into the top ten. Wow. It didn't make its yearly 100, but it made the all-time top 10. That's really strange, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's long been a favourite of fans, but it's just been building.

It's got a great film clip as well, I think. It's got a great film clip, but it's a lot. It's a really great film clip. It's a gondry film club, I believe. And I think David Letterman requested it to be the final song played on his show. That's right. Yeah, so they're the all-time countdowns. They've also had, so the Australian album one.

but they also did the most recent one of these that they did was the 20 year countdown so they the 20 years of the hottest 100 so from 93 to 2012 you could vote for any songs released in that 20 year period

oh right okay yeah cool so that was counted down in 2013 and the number one song in that ended up being Wonderwall by Oasis oh wow today it's gonna be the day I got to throw it back to you. Food Fighters, Evalong, was number six in that.

I don't believe in anybody. That's not Everlong. Seven Nation Army, while the white stripes came in number two, when it came in its yearly one at number three. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? So it's just like, I think some songs slip out. Over time, they're seen as they've aged poorly,

and other songs become classics. And sometimes it is because I think in one, One of the all-time countdowns, Tiny Dancer made it. Hold me closer, tiny dancer. And that was... He never lets me get out more than a sentence. Probably wise, but also frustrating.

In the 2009, all-time countdown. Power through. I'm just fully pounded. Sorry, that's rough. No, please go. Do it. I think I'm going to edit out all the talking of this, and it's just going to be like a 15-minute episode of you scene.

Oh, a medley. Medley. Great. Jess Medley. That's a real person. I met her once. Is that a person? I don't know.

Anyway. So Tiny Dancer. Tiny Dancer made the all-time countdown number 66, never having made any of the other countdowns before it, any of the all-time countdowns prior to that. And the theory on that would be because of the almost famous scene. Let me down the sheets of winning. Do you remember that scene in Almost Famous?

Yes. You had a busy day today. That gave that song a new life. It's funny when, yeah, stuff does that. Yeah. Also, you know, the Shins, their song, New Sank, featured in Garden State. Oh, the Garden State was big, wasn't it as massive soundtrack. So it didn't feature in its year of release either, but in the 2009 All-Time Countdowner camera number 72.

It's like crazy when it misses its year, but then gets in the all-time. Well, I think you could say Zach Braff choosing that song for that movie. and yeah, it wasn't that big of a song until a few years after it came out because of that movie. It's interesting. So yeah, they're sort of the spin-off ones. They're sure to do more of those in the future

because I think they're great fun and they normally is on a work day rather than a public holiday makes them go down so much sweeter for a work week. Love it. I fucking love countdown so much, as you probably know. Any sort of list, I'm in it.

I'm into it. Matt, I want to tell you. the listeners about this. You have, um, you make playlists of songs on Spotify. Yeah, I'm a fucking wild cat. I just, I'm a wild cat. I make playlist of songs on Spotify. You do like crazy song, like, um, here are 50 songs where they have a pause. Yeah, yeah. Like you have strange, what are some categories you've used? That's probably my favourite one. Paws are so good because when you're playing it and you're, but it's a strange thing to bring all these songs. Different genres, just a pause in the song and then it starts again.

We did it because the first time we did the pause mix was with a group of friends and we all had to bring a pause song in. No one knew what the pause songs. So you are a wildcat. And so we played them. We're drinking beers. It was New Year's Eve one year.

And it's just going on midnight. So we're celebrating. And to celebrate, we put on the pause mix. And you're all waiting for it. We're standing in a circle around the music outside of it in country, Victoria. And every time a song came on where there was a,

Every song, every song did have a pause, but every time the pause happened, everyone just yelled, pause, pause, how good was that pause? It went forever. What, but you didn't even listen to the pause? You filled the silence with noise. Losing the effect of the pause. And then one of the guys, Rhino, he chose a song that he swore had a pause.

Oh, no. Are you telling me that he didn't listen, to confirm the pause. He's like the live version has a magnificent pause and he's played the studio version. No pause. It was a print song. So it got to the end and you were like,

where was the pause going? He was like, what? He's like, I swear there was a pause. That's so great. Rino. Bloody love a playlist. You do. A friend who also is in a Dan,

he's done ones that are like, he's a more obscure. I couldn't think of any of this one. he's like songs where the singer's eyes are slightly too close together or something like that. I don't know, I don't even know where that, how do you, where do you like? Where do you draw the line? Did you draw the line? Is it a percentage of photos?

That one did not take off. I think he put one song on it. Yeah, I reckon he had one idea and he was like, you're, well, there you go. Balls in your court. What does that even mean? Anyway, and then what else he is? If you are out there and you know a singer who's eyes are too close together, please tweet as a picture.

And what song would you choose for the playlist? Let's get it. That's right. We'll get it happening. We'll get Dan's playlist off the ground. It also feels like a slightly mean-spirited playlist. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, it's not about the music.

It's about this weird-looking person. But he's like, the songs are got to be great as well. Oh, so that's just too hard. Cowbell was a good one. Classic tunes of Cowbell. Hand-clapping. Like, these are, like, lots of songs about hand clapping. But they're probably more common.

ones but that yeah. Fuck, I love a fucking love a playlist. Newbody wildcat, you are made. Settle down over here, champ. I will not. I will not settle.

One of the big news items about the hottest 100 in recent years was the Taitae Controverse Day. Oh yes, yes. You guys familiar with that? Am I familiar with a Tate? Yeah, so you've seen Taylor Spiff fly.

Yeah, not by choice, but... Oh, come on. What do you mean? I'm not a huge fan. I accidentally paid $300 to get a seat. I didn't pay. My friend had a spare ticket. Not by choice.

And she'd been given the tickets. Did you offer to pay? Well, she'd been given the tickets. She didn't pay. From who? That's great. An ex-boyfriend, they broke up after he'd given her the tickets, so she had two free tickets. She's like, you're coming with me.

And I was like, do you want to take somebody who really wants to go? She's like, no, I think it'll be funnier to take you. I think I'd not for anything like that, especially if it's great. It was great. I bet she put on a great show, didn't she? But there was a girl in front of me, like, nearly fainting. She was in tears at one point because Taylor Swift was breathing the same air. And I was just like, yeah, shake it off's fun.

All right, we're done? In similar situations, I've seen Nickelback. I've seen Michael Boobley. Booms would be great. Nicolbach, really? Both at Rodlava Arena. I want to know what Nickelback was like. Were they actually all right?

I just said boobs would be great and neither of you noticed. Boobes would be great. So that at the end, too. Imagine. Oh, man. Matt is simulating a chest full of breasts. A chest full of breast. Oh, wow.

No. He's done it again. Nickelback, all right? Nickelback? Because they get a lot of shit, but I think it's probably a little too much now. Yeah, I agree. I think they've definitely tipped too far over the... It's just like the easy target thing, which is always a bit annoying.

But yeah, they were fine. Like, whether or not you think their music's much good, that's up to you. I would say that it is not as shit as like... As people want you to believe. But it is pretty shit. Yeah. When they say stuff like, I want your pants around your feet. Stuff like that.

Pretty good. It's pretty, I mean, that's... It's romantic. Get behind that. So, anyway, yeah. Oh, so the Taylor Swift controversy. So in the 2014 poll, there was a social media campaign

to get Taylor Swift into the House 100 with their song, Shake it off. And it wasn't just people talking about that are big fans of Taylor was. It was more of a shit-stirring thing, right? It was a bit of both. I think there were definitely people who were into it, but they were also, yeah,

it was definitely like, let's hijack this countdown. I make a song that Triple J would never play because it's quite an alternative station. Yeah, it kind of is, but the countdown is always. Yeah, but it doesn't have like beat Rihanna or Lady Gaga or things like that. No, okay. Or one direction, Justin Bieber.

Can I, I, I was going to do this later, but I'll do this now. Here are some surprising songs that have made it into the countdown over the years. All right, I'll tell you whether I'm surprised. Okay, great, let me know. Your eyebrows will tell us, Dave. You've got a very expressive face. When were you born here? In 1990.

1990. You might not be familiar with some of these early songs. These ones are from 1993. K.D. Lang, constant craving. Just from K.D. Lang,

I'm a little bit surprised. I know who she is, but I don't know the song. Okay, I'm surprised that that made it. 993 also in at number 29. Ace of bass with all that she wants.

All that she wants is another baby. He's gone tomorrow and all that she wants. I don't know the song. Baby, still the word. Sorry, this is not helping. Do you order that song? Do you order that song? A Scandinavian.

No, I know who Ace of Ava. Okay. Haven't we talked about that before, anyway. Again in 1993, and number 78. East 17 with Deep. I don't know the song, but East 17. Mm-hmm.

That's all like a boy band. Yeah. That were a pre-Backstreet Boys' boy band. 94, Kylie Minot, confided me. I mean, that's kind of a cool song. Also in 1994, Tom Jones. Okay, I'm surprised. I only knew

what I could do to make you, make you love me make you love me I'm surprised That was top 10 Wow That's great They came in number nine

995 TLC waterfalls Don't go chasing Waterfalls Oh this is gonna be so hard to listen to Waterfalls is She just looks so offended

Oh, that's so good. She was so offended. But it's going to be because of that thing, which is what we were talking about. Yeah, back pedal. It's because people hate listening to people who can sing. I cannot sing. If you're going to, like, I'm fucking about and it's like, look, this dickhead, he's been a fuckhead. I'll let it apart.

I'll let him do a Tom Jones impression. But she can sing. Take it elsewhere. Not on the podcast, sister. I think when you listen back to this, you will go, oh no, no, no, no, she can't sing at all. My mistake. Please stick to the rim.

I am a bit surprised about TLC, yep. Yeah. Going to hurry your way or nothing at all. What else? 97, number 11, smash mouth walking on the sun. Really? Man, I'll be fucking on it. Yeah, I'm surprised.

And 11 as well. Yeah, that's high. In 97, Carla Minoguean, did it again. Did it again. Oh, yeah, I'm surprised. Did it again. That's surprising. 99 in 1999.

Madonna, Beautiful Stranger. Beautiful Stranger. Yeah. And 2000, again, Madonna with music. But wasn't Beautiful Stranger in like, And Austin Powers. Yeah, that was probably... That might be why.

And he was in the film clip. Yeah, that's right. That's why I remember it, yeah. Do you remember what music is? What, do I know what music is? Ah, yeah, Matt. Matt, have you been listening to the last hour of this show? I am music.

By, the song by Madonna, Jess. Music. Oh, yeah, is that... Yeah, I do know that one. It's not music. No, um... I reckon that could be a small clip from it. Somewhere in there.

She says music. She says at one point. Music. Music. Yeah, so they were all, I went through and skim through and they were all. They were standouts. Standouts. But there were heaps of songs I hadn't even heard of.

But other, like, Kyle and I got another song in, but it was a duet with Nick Cave, which sort of makes it make more sense. Yeah, he made her cool. But what about the Taylor Swift thing? What did they decide on that? So, Triple J, so it became a hashtag, which was trending. in a big way, hashtag Tay for Hotest 100 and companies like BuzzFeed

BuzzFeed kind of started and KFC jumped on board and had promotions around it. Buy a piece of KFC and vote for Taylor Swift afterwards. Tell us, something about tell us why you'd wanted to vote for Taylor Swift with this hashtag

and KFC hashtag and we'll give you a bucket of chicken. Yeah, yeah. And it built up a lot of momentum Triple J didn't comment on it until the morning of the countdown. They were just like basically given it the no comments, which is what not commenting is sort of another way of saying that. They didn't comment.

I think so explaining that to our international listeners. They were giving it the no comment sort of answer. In which they decided against commenting. Yeah. It might led to believe that... Sun's comment. Might led to believe that no comment was made. Nien commentae made.

More or less, Dave. Yeah. More or less, yeah. I mean, you're simplifying it a bit there, but... Classic Beyonce. But then on the morning of the countdown, just after the countdown started, they released a website,

which was a spoof of a BuzzFeed website with a listicle. And it was called Eight Hilarious, but totally true reasons. You won't hear Shake It Off in the Hottest 100. And they, so they listed the eight reasons. Number one, don't buzzfeed the trolls. As well as being the internet's primary source of cat gifts, BuzzFeed also is an international media company worth approximately $850 million.

The attempt at shaking their hashtag wait around to directly influence a publicly voted music poll started as a bit of a joke between myself and a few colleagues to teach those music snobs a lesson. That's a quote from BuzzFeed. Whilst their advertisers enjoyed the sweet page views, it's not legit for other media to try and troll the poll. That was reason once. There's eight of these reasons. And they've got gifts and stuff. So it made it look much like that.

Number two, haters going to vote, vote, vote. And they said, as a result, it became pretty clear, pretty quick that a lot of people just wanted to prod some hipsters for the lulls. So that was another reason. Yeah, I felt that it was. Yeah. They said, number three, do we really want to talk about it every year? They're saying if we let Taylor Swift in then next year, which has happened.

Anyway, there's a bee bird. Oh, people are trying to do it again. People are trying to get B-room. But they were saying, if we let Taylor Swift in, it's just going to happen every year. Yeah. Ruin it. Number four, not every KFC idea is a good idea.

So the hottest 100s, an opportunity for individuals everywhere to cast their votes for their, for real's favorite songs of the year. The invitation doesn't extend to fried chicken companies eager to wrap their greasy fingers around a freshly minted hashtag. Oh, a burn. And yeah, it's like, it's going. for the burn. So whilst a chance at some free-battered chook is tempting,

we'd prefer if people voted for the love of music, not for the love of cholesterol. Oh, that's great. Last time KFC came up with a great idea, this happened, and they show the one where the buns are chicken. So disgusting. Oh, yeah, that's right. So instead of buns, you had chicken holding the chicken burger together.

Yeah, yeah. That was a photo. I just read out a photo. I didn't think it could be done, but you did it. You did it. Number five, more like TK for Hottest 100. I said 18-year-old Adelaide rapper TK. Midesa made it into the list at number 100. If Taylor Swift was in, she would have been bumped out.

So they're like, what about her? It's a bit unfair sort of thing. That's cool. Although they overstated a bit, I think maybe. They said, you know what that would be? It'd be a travesty. Okay, well, she meant to 100, so let's not. Yeah.

They said number six, 13,511 more reasons. Taylor Swift got played on Triple J a total of zero times in 2014, adding to a cumulative total of zero plays since we started as a radio station in 1975. Luckily, I mean, some of those years she was born, so it's a pretty ridiculous sort of, you know. Luckily, other Australian radio stations picked up the slack and played shake it off 13,511 times, and counting since it was released in August. If we included... Oh, there's another photo.

I'm going to read it anyway. If we included every song we never played on our website shortlist, it'd be as big as this comically large cat. And is it a picture? Wait, is it a picture of a rather large cat? That is a large cat. The nurse holding that cat, or a vet nurse probably, presumably looks in pain.

Yeah. From holding that comically large cat. That's quite a big cat, but I have seen a tiger. Oh, me too. I wasn't going to read all these out because this does feel a bit tedious. Number seven, I'm number one, so why try harder? And that's saying, after all the tweets, et cetera, and trolling everything, corporate intervention, Shagadoff still only got enough votes to become number 12.

Oh, I was going to ask if they ever released if it was going to be number one. Yeah, so they said they're basically saying on that one, they're like, still, with all that stuff, still didn't beat Chet Faker because he got thousands of more votes. That's kind of cool And Number 12 is pretty good I mean yeah I didn't really

I was just like Oh whatever they decided I don't really give a fuck It's their countdown or whatever Do you reckon there's ever just been like one vote in it Between say number one and number two There hasn't been But I'll tell you soon

The closest ever between one and two And it was pretty close But normally it's hundreds or thousands of votes But yeah And then the eighth reason was I mean I think you're stretching to cause a reason But it's we ain't even mad That's reason number eight.

They're saying, To be clear, Triple J doesn't have a beef with Taylor Swift. She's smart, she's cool, she's successful, and she has great taste in BFFs. I get a photo of her with.

Lord. Oh. It's funny, like Lord and another huge international pop star. They're happy to play her, but anyway, whatever. It's like,

it's an interesting line where you draw the, between two pop, doesn't need it or whatever. Too commercial, yep. Well, I think the line is probably just whether you play it on your station or not. But not necessarily.

Because they've also had songs make their countdown in the past that never got played as well. That is, and I even said on their website that you can vote for songs that haven't been played. It's not an issue. So that, it's, they played Lord because she wasn't big when they started playing her, I guess. So maybe they see her as their own. But what, but if people had just voted for Taylor Swift without the huge push. Yeah, then they would have had no way of, it would have been a lot hard. to justify pulling it.

And would they have, though? They should, I, they would say they wouldn't have. But, I mean, there would have been no publicity about it. People wouldn't even know. I guess some people inside, they would know. But I'd say they would play it. I mean, that's why they've played Madonna in the past and stuff, because there was no.

Yeah, there was no hashtag for Madonna. She just, um, got the votes. So I reckon they definitely would. And they do put in, there are heaps of really commercial songs that get in that don't get a lot of Triple J play. It's just, yeah, I think it's, it makes sense to me because it, I think the main one is, if they let it in, the countdown would get hijacked. Every year, it would be more of those things until it was just like unrecognizable and they'd have no control over it. It'd just be, Twitter would decide.

Yeah. I don't even think that's enough. Still part of the hashtag. You got too many characters. Stop typing now. That's too many characters. It's going to be a three or four parter. Yeah.

That's fine. Triple J will listen then. Please don't tweet that on our account. Please, Dave. If you tweet it, we will delete it. Tweet it, delete it. Hashtag, if you tweet it, we will delete it. Yeah, that you can hashtag.

End hashtag. You got to sign off your hashtags. You don't have to write end hashtag. No, the pause means, in this case. Put that in your playlist. took that and you and smoke it. I don't even know what that means. And then they finish with this, which is always, it feels like it,

I hate when people, if someone's upset about something, I hate when people say stuff like this. They go, now it's time to take a breath. Remember, there's a lot of other shit going on in the world and just enjoy the tunes for what they are. You know, there's a lot of, I'm upset about this, and I also am aware, and I know there's bad stuff happening, and I'm also worried about that.

But don't tell me I can't have an opinion, be worried about this anyway. Also, if you think about that all the time, what's the point in voting for a shitty music counter? What's the point in doing anything ever? There's a lot of bad stuff going on the world. I think the point is like, don't waste your time voting. Pick your battles.

Yeah, collaborate, like, you know, shortlisting songs. Don't spend four hours making a top 10 for the music. I think it's kind of like pick your battles. Like, yeah, get fired up over, you know, really important causes, but it's just a list. Like, just for your life. I have no problem with them taking it out, shaking it off, shaking it out, whatever. Interestingly, in 2002, Triple J hosts Will Anderson and Adam Spencer had their own sort of pushed to get a song into the countdown.

Yeah? Shocked by that? Yeah, look at these eyebrows. What? What? What was the song? I actually don't know this at all. in 2002

these guys were the breakfast house and they created a fictional metal band named Salmon Hater and they gave the band That's really good They gave the band of history including that they were from the hills of Glenelg in Adelaide

And that they were part of the South Australian fish metal scene Which included bands such as trap destroyer And they They came up with the name of Salmon Hader's first single, which was 6.66,

100th of the number of the beast. Yeah, 666. Adam Spends as a big mathematician. Yeah, he's a real nerdy guy. And then, not long after they were joking about that on air, just, you know, talking shit. They got a CD on their desk

that's been sent in without them asking for it. Someone had gone out and written and recorded the song, 6.66 is 100th of the number of the beast. and so they played it a few times on the show and then started joking about how the listeners should vote for it in the hottest 100 and they did and it came in at number 26

wow I didn't realize that that's really see that's fun that's more fun because it's part of the station the station bore the song not and totally I agree with that as well but it doesn't tick all the box those eight boxes that they had like

it still pushes out TK. Mardsa from 100 position, right, for a joke song that they made up for fun. So it's still sort of, it's still going against something, but that was also a long, that was 12 years ago. I just want to say, Matt,

take a deep breath. Think about, there's a lot of shit going on in the world. Just enjoy the tunes. I hadn't thought about that, but yeah, there is, isn't there? Oh my God.

Even in 2002, apparently there was shit going on in the world, so. What am I doing on this fucking podcast? I should be out healing people. With your magic powers. I'm going to get a doctorate of podcast to be. And I'm going to heal people.

I still like for a long time I'm like if you're a doctor it's medical you're a medical doctor you can't be a doctor people who say they're a doctor if you call yourself doctor something I'm like it needs to be I reckon too

if I had a doctor I don't think I call myself doctor one of you But my carapractor doesn't even use his doctor title because he's scared that like he'd be on a plane and somebody would be like Dr Nelson help us somebody's having a heart attack and he's like I have basic first aid

I don't know I can crack his back okay I can crack his back pretty good I can line him up good but I cannot save his life. It is totally, like, why do you need it anyway? It's funny when people, because like we were talking about with monarchy and stuff, sirs, knights of the Order of Australia and stuff,

you get to choose where I don't use the name? Do you reckon you'd use sir? If I was a sir? Yeah. If I was elderly. Sir David Warnocky. Do you get to choose if you, because people would refer to you as sir. You don't have to.

I wouldn't say, hey guys, I'm Sir David. You can opt out. You couldn't be Sir Dave. It would have to be David. There's no reason that you have these things apart from going, hang on. People who, like, send out your telephone bill. Oh, this is for a... Sir.

Sir. Sir Matthew Stewart. You could be a Dame. Dame's not as good. Have they gotten rid of that yet in Australia? Dame. Dames and Sirs? I know, Abbott brought it back, but surely that was going to be taken away.

You know when, like, as a doctor, it's prestigious. to be doctor, so-and-so. But if you're a surgeon, it's back to Mr. Yeah. And they're like, you rank again. But if you call a surgeon doctor, they'll correct you and be like, Mr. But then how do people know? How do they differentiate?

You just know. You may just says Mr. It's not all, it's not spelled different things. What they do is they look at the Maserati in your driveway and they realize that you. This is probably a surgeon. This guy's a-er-wanker. He's a surgeon of podcasting, for sure. slice it and dice and lulls

it's pretty good put that on my reins so the salmon hater song came in at number 26 and it came in ahead of songs like the songs the handful after that were by bands like the vines silver chair

body jar on the hives like all these big bands this is so weird wow so weird I'm impressed not that weird like if you'd take a deep breath you'll realize

it's not that weird and that weirder things are happening. Wow, I never thought about this in the context of the world. Bloody hell, this is... It's pretty hard. It's actually hard to be impressed by anything when you start thinking about that. Yeah, that's right. It's like, and we're all just going to die, you know? Just hope you don't mind if I end on fun facts.

I know this is kind of your thing. No, but I like that it's spreading. It's really best started becoming a thing for everyone. Yeah, I like it. It's just a nice way to end. Okay, so I'll hear. you with some. We'll call them the Jess Perkins fun facts.

Yeah. JPFF. JPM F. JPM F. Now, and I also, I want to bring this in. I've just sort of that then. I want, I'll tell you the fact. I'm not going to say they're fun facts.

I want you, Jess, to tell me whether or not it's a fun fact. Love it. Fun or unfun. Oh, wow. Be brutal. Yeah, you've got to be, you've got to be honest. I don't. I don't.

If these are all fun, then I'm out. Okay. This is the last podcast I'll do. All right. You've got to be honest with me, Jess. Dramatic. Okay. I need you to respect my intelligence, please.

Wow. Okay, first act. The longest average duration of songs in the hottest 100 was four minutes and 16 seconds in 1995. And the shortest average duration of songs was in 1998 with three minutes and 38 seconds. Interesting, not fun. Not fun. Okay, there's a benchmark set. Well, it's interesting, but I wouldn't tell it at a party, you know?

I wonder if in the background we've got the same. Jamie J and Randy rehearsing. I'm just going to do a quick... Because they're a musical act. I wonder if Semi J's ever charted in the Hotest 100. No results. Is that a fun fact? No.

No, okay. Now the fact, in 2006, with their song Wake Up coming in at number 53, the Living End made it into the countdown for the 10th year in a row. That is pretty fun fact. Only band ever do that. I did like Living End. I did like that song. And there's, so they've got the record for that.

There's been a bunch of other bands that have been in consecutive years. Dave Grohl, which over different acts, made it in nine times between 93 and 2001. Whitlam's made in seven years a row between 96 and 2002. Regurgitator between 95 and 01 made it seven times. And something for Kate also made it seven times between 97 and 2003. These are very facty. Not that fun. Okay, great.

All right. Again, interesting. Interesting. But you're missing the point of the fun facts, which is the fun bit. Come on, Matt. These are just facts, which has been the whole show. I mean... Now these need to be fun.

You have just written facts. You haven't written fun? Okay, all right. So I was aware at 3am this morning. In 2005, Wolfmother had six tracks in the 100. Wow. Really? 6% of the counter.

What were they? Do you know? That is still a record. It was pretty much half their... It's half their album, yeah. Let's not name them. Let's not name them. All right, let's not name them.

I thought you wanted fun facts. I wanted to sing them, that's all. There's been seven foreign language songs that have made the counten over the years. 99 Luftballoons. Nine. Very good. What's some foreign language?

Which ones? I haven't heard of half of these. Okay, names are ones you have heard of? I've heard of half of these. Okay, great. I don't know this one. Agalo by Angelique Kijo. No.

Came in at number 99 in 1994. And the language is Yoruba, which I don't know. I don't know any of these things. In 2000, so that was the only one in the whole 90s that was foreign language. In the 2000s, there's been a few more. Rampstein's Link's 23-4. I was surprised. Duhars didn't seem to appear anywhere, which is surprising.

And that was a German song, came in number 17. Camille, French singer. Tadouler. That's probably not right. But it sounded French. Camera number 29. I think that's the one that goes, Dambi,

Dhabi, da, is that racist if I'm mumbling the French words? All righty. All righty. Sigur Ross's Gobble de Gook. Camera number 93.

Okay, that's racist. If you can't pronounce, If you can't pronounce the words, don't just make him up. The hardest I've ever got him. You've broken him. Yes. So, Gobutti Gook, which is a real song by Sigur Ross,

camera number 93 in 2008. It's Icelandic. Oh. Yeah, it's a word in. I don't think it is. So, yeah, there's something. It's not that. I'm going to cut you off right there, not fun.

In 2002, Dave Grohl was involved with 10 tracks in the 100. Wow. Wow, because he's Queenslander the Stone Age drummer as well at the time. Queens of the Stone Age drummer who had five songs in the canon, four songs with Foo Fighters and one with Nirvana. Because Navarna had a greatest hits release that year with a new track. Oh, a new song. Yeah. Oh, wow. Ten percent.

What a guy. That's great. That was fun. That was a fun fact. Yes. All right. So that's two fun facts. How many to become a list of fun facts?

You need one more, I can. One more, okay. Actually has to be fun. I think you might love this one. I better. Probably won't. So I was saying before our thrift shop was the only first one of hip-hop. I'm going to pop some tags.

Only got $20 in my pocket. Yeah. I'm running for a hum-up. This is fucking awesome. So that was the first and only hip-hop song to make number one so far. Before that, There was a few songs that made number three, so they were all the equal heist. They were Coolio's Gangsters Paradise.

What a great song. Guerrillas featuring Delah Soul with Feel Good Inc in 2005. Also I enjoyed. And Hilltop Hoods three times have been number three. Ah, that hurts. With High Road Chase That Feeling in Cosby's sweater in 0609 and 14. I was going to say it was interesting. I didn't want to show that.

That is, is that? Three times. So three, that's kind of fun. All right. I guess it's fun. That's a third fun fan. Third fun. I made it.

I'll give you, there's just a couple more here. Get through one of them answers the question of Jesses earlier. Hopefully that's fun. But firstly, there's been, we were talking about this before as well, there's been many instances of songs making the countdown without any triple J airplay. According to this article I read. Although there are no real records of. songs that were played on triple j in the 90s now they've got there's websites like jay play and stuff

which tracks it all but um it's believed that alanus morissette was never played on triple j and in 1995 she had three songs in the countdown you ought to know not hand in my pocket i know it not not singing i can't do alana's monos and all i really want uh you two reportedly reached number 40 with elevation despite not getting any air play in 2001. Elevation! You'll sing you too, but you won't sing Alanis.

In 2009, the Food Fighters came in at number 100 with their song Wheels, which is like a bonus track of their greatest hits or something, and that was never played. And then apparently, which doesn't sound right to me, but apparently in 2014, Sears' Chandelier was never played on Triple J.

I'm not going to do it. I thought you're going to sing Shandals. No. I can't hit that note. We'll do the bit without the note. It's all that note. Yeah, fair enough. All right.

No, without a few. Chandelie. Nope, see, no. She knows the limits, though. I think Evan just probably cried downstairs. Here's the final fact. All right, this better be fun. I think it's fun.

So, Jess, you asked before what the closest between one and two was. This happened in 2007 when Hot Favorite Street. Straight lines by Silver Chair was pipped. At the post? At the post by only 14 votes. 14. That's not many at all. I wouldn't have voted that year, so I could have made that 13.

Do you know what it was? No. It was straight lines. Was Muses Nights of Sedonia. Oh, that's a great song. But is it fun. Yeah, it's fun. That was fun.

That's a fun fact. 14 votes. Stewart. Stuart. He's fist pumping. Stop now. Do you reckon that? Okay.

Well, anyway, that was. that was a pretty loose episode about things on on and about the hottest 100 any further questions do I have any questions well by the time this come my question is what will be number one for 2015 by the time we come

for the time I come out I just happen to your face I just broke on cum soon as cum came out he broke do I have any questions yeah where do you get on Question one

My only question remaining is What will be number one for 2015 When it comes out the day Before this is released So everyone who know You can If you're listening to this You can Google

You can find out If Kendrick Lamar's joke song King Kunta made number one What a joke song I'm surprised It's favour now That's pretty cool Am I too late to get in

Do you reckon If I put something on YouTube tonight To get into the hottest 100 I reckon I could If you put something on YouTube tonight So just Google, Hottest 100 for 2015, see if Jess Perkins made the 100. We're going to find out.

Without hashtag help, it's going to be tricky. Nah, I reckon I can do it. I've got a following. All right, well, on that note, thank you so much for listening, everyone. Which note? Give us a note, Jeff. On that note, right there, thanks very much for listening. Matt did go on about a topic that I feel like you had a bit of passion for, so that was good. A little bit.

Not like you and the queen, nothing like that. No, well. Love you, Lizzie. You can't compare much to Queen Elizabeth the second. Oh, with Shnade O'Connor, her friend. Anyway. Jess is going to be back next week, hopefully not singing, but doing a report.

Oh, hopefully not singing. Probably singing. Ouch. Possibly a musical report. In the meantime, please do go on to follow us on Twitter at DoGoOn Pod, and we'll catch you next time. Thank you so much for listening. And for me, I say goodbye.

Bye. Shenato can I made it many times. Latest. That was not fun. Or the whole show. No, that's a fact. I'm in the fact. I'm a multi-millionaire, and I have no worries about PAPS.

It's a popular vote. People, I find it funny every year, people are like, it's gone so commercial. Every year, it's the most popular song when millions of people have voted in a thing. It's going to be a pretty popular song. That's how popular votes work. You fucking idiot.

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