Do Go On - 140 - The Eureka Stockade

Episode Date: June 27, 2018

The Gold Rush hit Victoria, Australia in 1851, and people quickly dropped everything and headed to the goldfields to try and strike it rich. But then the government started charging large gold digging fees, and before long corruption became widespread. After the murder of one of their own, the miners had well and truly had enough. The only thing left to do... REBEL! Often referred to as the birth of democracy in Australia, this is the bloody story of the Eureka Rebellion and The Battle of The Eureka Stockade.Report begins at 13:13Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodWebsite : dogoonpod.com Support Dave's Gloveless Finger Palm Coolers Pozible Campaign: https://pozible.com/project/gloveless-finger-palm-coolersSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] and further reading on Eureka:http://www.nma.gov.au/online_features/defining_moments/featured/eureka_stockadehttp://www.lancashireinfantrymuseum.org.uk/the-battle-of-the-eureka-stockade/http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lalor-peter-3980https://www.britannica.com/event/Eureka-Stockadehttp://www.goldrushcolony.com.au/australian-gold-history-culture-info/australian-gold-rush-history-law-order/law-enforcement-colony/ghttp://www.kidcyber.com.au/gold-rush-in-australia/http://www.egold.net.au/biogs/EG00080b.htmhttp://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/exhibition/objectsthroughtime/1854-the-eureka-flag/index.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion#Political_legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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And welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnocky and I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. That was an explosive, hello. It was explosive. Were you trying to put me off so I didn't cover you again? I saw you clock me first. Oh no. I appreciate that.

I appreciate you did that. Jess was getting out of hand. With those things early on, Jess. What, being adorable. Yeah, it was getting out. People were starting to talk saying it's distracting. That's right. Those levels of adorability are getting a bit much.

But getting in the way of the fact. Yeah, sorry, I'll let the man speak. Oh. Yeah. Fuckos. Oh, dear. Oh, no. I think she means you.

Just play. Because I've never been referred to as a man. I don't think she meant me. You don't want me to speak to you. I want both of you to shut up. And I want to just get everything out of my brain. I go. All right.

Here's what I'm thinking. The fuck's a deal with butterflies. Today I saw a video of a butterfly that when it closes the wings, it looks like a leaf. And then it opens the wings of a butterfly. It's like, I get that that's really handy for camouflage. But what about in autumn when people like to stomp on leaves? You're fucked. Oh, no.

What about if it's a guy who likes to play leaf harmonica? Yeah. And he picks you up. No, you're a harmonica until you can get free. Now you're involved in bush poetry or something. Is that what you wanted? Is that what you wanted, butterfly? Yeah.

Oh, very confusing. Idiot. I've always thought of them as clean moths. Yeah. I can get into that. Clean moths. Hmm. No dust.

Is that what moths are dusty? They look dusty. That's how they get grey. Yeah. It's dust. There's some beautifully colourful moths out there, Dave. No, there aren't. Some beautifully colourful dust out there is what you mean.

meant. Yeah. Wow. Anything else on the chest of Jess? So many things. Flam. But we also said we'd get into it. Hey, we should get on with the show.

This show works in a way where we each do a report one week after the other or something like that, right? And then we start the report each week by asking a question. This week Dave's doing the report. So he's going to ask a question now that's going to get us on topic. Jess and I do not know what the report is about. Dave hopefully does. I've got some idea.

Dave, can you tell me. me now what the report is about so that you and I know and only Matt doesn't? All right, I'll stop the recording for five seconds. Okay. And we're back, Jess. Pretty interesting topic. Wow.

Wait, I didn't even say, did you stop my brain as well? Yes, for five seconds. I've got a question. Yeah, you'll catch up. My question to both of you is, what is arguably the most famous rebellion in Australia's history? I think I know this one.

But I don't know anything about it. Is it the rum rebellion? It is not the rum rebellion. Is that an Australian thing? That is Australian, which is why? Oh, Eureka! It is. Yes.

I've got it. Is it the Eureka stockade? It is the Eureka Stockade. What is the rum rebellion? We can talk about it on another episode. That's why I added in arguably. Okay, great. In case you said that.

Wow. Oh, Jess? You already knew the answer because I told you so. That's why I didn't even guess. Because I didn't need to, you can't guess when you know. Yeah, it's not a guess. Oh, can we put that on a T-shirt? You can't guess when you know.

Yeah. I'd just go straight to tattoo. Fuck yeah. Straight to tat. Neck tat. Can't guess when you know. You know? I think you know.

Is that also on the shirt? Yeah. The whole thing. I think you know. No, no, no. I think you know. Come on. Oh, this is great.

No, it is the Eureka rebellion, aka the Eureka Stockade. I know, I know there's a flag and I know there was a stockade. A stockade. I know. nothing, even though my family is from there. Really, from the Ballarat region? Yeah, I should know that. I was going to ask, because this is in Australia, this is a pretty famous topic.

A lot of times in primary school or early high school, you do a project on this topic? You guys didn't ever do that? No. I don't think so. Now, this was suggested by Hannah Dempsey from Perth, so thank you very much, Hannah. And it was voted for by the Patreon listeners, and a few of them did comment saying, oh, that's going to be a bit nostalgic. I did a project.

Oh, there go. So there you go. It was also, sorry to interrupt. It was handwritten and suggested by Josh and Connor Saunders who visited us. I think they only ever handwritten. Yeah. No, Nestor had a handwritten one as well. Nestor who cannot be Bester.

He shan't be Bester. Wait, bested. When Matt and I did a gig in Ballarat, ages ago. Yeah, like a year and a half. They came to the show and gave us a hand-werect. written submission. Oh, that's really, really cool. I had no idea about that.

So that's also suggested by some local Ballaratians. Ballaratts. Local Ballarats. Nestor, the great suggestor, but not in this case. Not relevant. Thank you for piping in then. I thought it had been whilst it's been done in Aussie topics. I put three Australian topics in the Patreon vote and this was the one that was chosen.

By a landslide? I don't think landslides were voting in this one, Jess. was the Patreon. Ah. Thank you to Patreon subscriber 600. Mr. Landslide. Your vote got it across the line. 51%.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Whoa. To quote D. Warnocky. Whoa. Put it on my term stone. Whoa.

Dave Warnocky. Wow. And then I'll put in brackets moments before he died. Buy a landslide. Whoa. A comet. Behind that comment is a landslide. Space landslide

That's what comments are Oh, that's cool Yeah When you think about it that way I mean everything's a landslide In a way Like you're a podcast landslide Jess

Dave you're a Also a podcast landslide Podcast landslide It's really hard Anyway I You need a new stereotype Um Okay

Give me one The boy landslide All right And you're a beard landslide Great All right Well that was I'm glad I'm glad I'm

out of that. Appreciate you going with boy. As opposed to other options. All right. Let's start the report. So this is a homegrown topic. Also, pretty close to our Victorian hearts, this one. So to start this story and set the scene, we have to talk about Australia in the late 1840s.

Ah, what a time. Oh, yeah. The 1840s. That's why I paused. You went, oh, and I was like, here we go. And you didn't do it. And then you did it. And now I feel great.

Yeah, fucking gotcha. Well, prior to 1851, the colonial government of New South Wales, which at the time included our state of Victoria... In a way, we're all New South Welshmen. We are. It was pretty like most of Australia was New South Wales for a while, I think. Like all the East Coast. Yeah, it was...

I think early on it was like Tasmania, New South Wales and maybe Western Australia. Yeah, I think W.A. have always been there on. Yeah, a little thing. Little thing. They're a third of our country. In size. In size. And spirit.

Yes. Correct. So this is Pride 1851. The colonial government had hushed up news whenever someone found gold, believing if the news got out that it would reduce the workforce and destabilize the economy. Basically everyone would quit their jobs to go look for gold. Right. But then the Californian gold rush hit, and a lot of people living in Australia decided to travel over there to try and strike it around. Wow.

So the government realized its mistake and started offering rewards for people who found gold here. So in July 1851, the Victorian gold rush began. So not only do you find the gold. Yeah, surely that's its bonus. Yeah. So you can sell that for quite a bit of money. Yes, but I think a lot of the time you don't get to keep all of the gold. Right.

If you want to claim your reward. Yeah, so like you sell it on, you get part of the gold. Hmm. Right, sort of like eBay. eBay takes a little fee. Exactly. They've got to survive somehow. Were they selling their gold online?

On eBay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. eBay.com. Dot com. That was so early. They could have had such simple websites, but they made them more complicated.

Yeah, someone got in there and just sort of parked on gold rush.com and just wouldn't. They're like eBay underscore gold rush 69. 69. Dot com. At hot mail. That was the official government address. Please email us if you find gold. House shadow.

So there were Australians who probably had gold in their backyard who went, I'm going to California. And then that word would have come through when they were arriving. Hey, there's a lot of gold down here. It was, yeah, you didn't realize it, but your house was gold. You didn't notice it was all shiny. Quite cold? Yeah.

It wasn't actually quite cold. It was quite gold. an entire house of gold and they've gone to California California and it would be back then it's not just a simple flight over is it no no it was two flights oh no thank you

no plane could fly that far in 1850 yeah fortunately that all changed where they invented the gold plane solid gold yeah flew like a plane made of gold so sorry it's solid gold where do the people sit

well that was one of the many oversights they rode it Like a horse. That seems like a terrible idea. Yeah, crash into the ocean. And yeah, that's people still looking for it. The lost city of it plaintiffs. Well, now it's a gold submarine.

That's how they... The marketing spin. Sure. You understand. Oh, I get it. So July 1851, the Victorian gold rush began. And this is the setting for today's report. People began to find lots and lots of gold in Australia.

For a number of years, the gold output from Victoria. Victoria alone, second only to California, and if you exclude California, just our state alone had a greater output than any other country in the world. Wow. Good on us. Every other entire country, California and Victoria are both having more got, because we just had a lot of gold. Yeah, but how?

Just naturally occurring. How to get there? Space. What's gold? Landslides. How's it happen? Why do we have it? Dreams.

Oh. More people. I'm just trying to make a understand that I don't know. I didn't look that bit up. You didn't look up what's gold? But don't you find that interesting? Shaller report. That just in one little,

and Victoria's not that big, one little corner of a country, we've got heaps of gold. Do you think that's cool? I don't know. I mean, it's just a made-up thing. Okay. We've decided it's valuable.

It's just a, It's just a weird rock, right? This is just the first time that I've ever got excited about the origins of something. And you two are like, so? And I just don't, I mean, I suddenly understand what it's like to deal with me. And I'm so sorry, I will ask more questions in the future. That's totally fine. I just think that's fascinating.

Sorry. No, I, yeah, it is. I just never really thought about it as hard as you. Well, that's because I'm the smartest woman in the universe. You've got those little gray cells working. Yeah. Love those little gross house. So news spread about the riches that could be made

and more and more people travel to Victoria to try their luck. And also it's just a great tourist destination. Totally. Got lots of cafes. Ballarat. But no, Victoria. Oh, Victoria. Bars.

Yeah, there's nowhere else in the world. Busch walking. The Melbourne Comedy Festival. Yeah. How many other? How many others are there? Are you hating on Victoria's? You were born and raised here.

It's a fine place. It's a, I don't like the sound of that. Tone in fine. It's a golden place. Thank you, David. The Garden State. My next sentence here is it really put Australia, Victoria and Melbourne on the map. Yeah, like our city scene, our bars.

Yes. Cafes. Bushwalk. Why should we go to Melbourne? Our city scene. Okay. Well, I can get to Melbourne, then you'll understand. Well, this is how.

how much it really exploded. This is the population growth of non-Indigenous Australians before and during the gold rush. So in 1835, none. 1840, 10,000. 1851, when this all kicks off, 29,000. Three years later, 1854, 123,000.

Then by 1960, Victoria's population had hit 540,000 people. Wow. So it'd really gone up. 1960. 1860. 1860. You said no. He did say 1960.

Oh, did I? You're so sorry. That's a real track. I got me. I was about to call him. I was about to like go hard and be like, you fucking idiot. But that sorry was so cute. Oh.

Oh, sorry. Whoopsies. So people are coming to Victoria in 1860. Got it right. Sailors and captains deserted ships. People in city official type jobs written here gave up their relatively cushions. lives and picked up pans and shovels in the hopes of striking it rich. These hopefuls were called diggers, and not all of them got rich, but many stayed and this

transformed Australia. Gold diggers. Yes. It all makes sense now. People came in from all over the world, particularly from China, this period. This had all kicked off, this Victorian gold rush, when a man named Thomas Hiscock. Very good. He was in charge of Hiscock.

He discovered, discovered, with a shovel, I imagine, gold in Bunnanjong, about 11 kilometres from the town of Ballarat. That's where my uncle lives. Bunnon-Yong. Mount Bunningong. Oh, yeah. Cool. Right near Ballarat, in August 1851, this sparked huge interest in the area

and kicked off the Victorian Gold Rush. I hadn't thought about this before, but at the start of the Gold Rush, there was no roads to the goldfields and no shops or houses there. So people had to carry everything they needed. through the bush. They travelled by horse or by walking with wheelbarrows loaded with their possession. So they were really desperate to make it work.

Wow. You've got to travel a long way with a wheelbarrow to get there. Have you seen the Australian film The Nugget? No. That's with Dave O'Neill. Dave O'Neill. Eric Banner? Yep, Stephen Curry.

And now it's all I can think about now that's what we're talking about, but I can't remember how it ends. And that's killing me. But it's about a big gold nugget? Yeah, they find gold. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

That was worth me jumping in there. That's a real parable. I'll learn a lot. What would you say as a moral of that story? It's similar in so many ways. It really is. In that they found gold. I've got a whole section on the nugget at the end of the report.

Do you? Absolutely not. But if you'd like, I can try and make up a fun fact at the end. Thank you. I'll find something. Yes. I find something. Thank you.

Is there something called? Is it the Welcome Stranger anything to do with anything? Yeah, the welcome stranger. That's the largest gold nugget ever found anywhere. Right. And it's also a Pokey's venue in the city. Yeah, there you go. They've taken that.

I think it was found in New South Wales. Fuck, they get everything cool. But I mean, this was Victoria? I just lied. Found it. One of ours? California. Moliagul Victoria.

Oh, there you go. About nine miles west of Donnelli. And it was absolutely massive. but it was a bit later than this. It was found in 1869. All right. All right. As of 2018,

it would have been worth $3.8 million if you found this nugget today, which no one has since. So anyway, people are desperate to make it work. They're will borrowing through the bush just to get to these gold sites. And at first it was pretty great because gold was found in rivers or on the surface, near the surface of just the dirt. You didn't have to dig very far up. or basically it's referred to as alluvial gold.

Alluvial. So it's just in the, most of this is just in the water, and you can just use a little pan to extract it. You've just got to find it amongst the other grains of rock and dirt there. And it's just on the surface. Anyone can find it. But thousands of people were panning, and as this surface gold ran out,

gold seekers were forced to look further underground. This involved digging deeper mines and was much, much, much more dangerous. Much, much, much more dangerous. No, no. Much, much, much more dangerous. Oh, I'm sorry, I added a much. Thank you. Oh, you're singing macho man.

I was singing a... Yeah, Matt was doing a little groove. He did a little groove. Much, macho man. Ah, I was singing the shake, shake, shik, shiwana. Sonora. Sonora. I was, well, I was singing gibberish.

Sure. That ended up having nothing to do with anything. But it was, I was singing it, I was saying the words. Much. Much. Match. Match. Match.

Match. Match. Match. Mania. Anyway, you asked. Yeah. Hey. That's on us.

There was a mouse on a little wheel. That's my brain. My little grey cells are just mice. Yeah, they'll be firing out. Life on the gold fields. I want to tell you about it. It was anything but easy. Life on the gold fields.

It ain't easy. Great. Not easy. The space where someone was digging was called Acclaim. To keep their claim, a person had to work on it every day except Sunday. The Lord's Day. Yeah, that's nice. You've got to have a day off.

If no one was working a claim or you took a day off that wasn't Sunday, someone else could jump in and take it. This was called claim jumping and fights often broke out between people. I imagine if you are a claim jumper, you're a bit of a low dog. Definitely. And like, I got up earlier than you. You went here by 5 a.m., so now it's mine. I imagine that kind of stuff was happening.

What of imagination going on? What point would you stop? Like, let's say you're just finding like little, little nuggets. And they're still worth a bit of money, but like, you know, not enough to like make you live like a king forever. So at what point dollar-wise would you stop? You'd go, I've got enough for this amount of money. I'm done.

For forever? It depends. I think the whole gold mining thing is stupid. and I think you may as well be buying lotto tickets. Was your question about gold mining? I missed the start. Yes, it was. At what point would you cut your losses?

I would cut them before I started. I would have stayed in town and picked up one of the cushy jobs that someone left. Honestly, they would have been desperate to have you. Yeah. It would have been so good. I was like, yeah, I'll do it. You could just double the pay. Yeah, leverage yourself out to be the CEO of like the biggest bank or something.

Yeah, that's what I would have done. Fuck, that is good. Well done. Because it's really hard life. They lived in tents at first, but little makeshift villages began to pop up. Food and supplies had to be brought in, again without proper roads, probably with a wheelbarrow. So stuff's very, very expensive because it's all imported. Finally, many of the people who got rich were the people who set up the shops and sold stuff to the people hoping to strike it rich.

Right, okay. So people would set up pubs, you know, clubs or just like grocery-style shops or, you know, offer to take your mail and that kind of thing. and those people started making a killing off the people who were gambling everything. Wow. The pubs are really popular. I've written here that I imagine that Matt would go all the way from the city to find gold then end up spending the day at the pub instead. That sounds fun.

I mean, someone's going to run that pub? Yes. And I don't know if you just heard that, Matt, but those people were getting really rich. I did not hear that, but... You were on your phone. I, um... Dave, please. That was our little secret.

Sorry. I imagine you were googling the nugget facts. Save me. But again, I just, surely the pubs in town are still better. Why are you going out of these shitty? Imagine how shitty those pubs would be. Oh, most of this, they're building them out of bark and like tents at first and then making sort of more makeshift and stuff.

And they'd be getting muddy water and they'd let mold grow in it. And they go, here's another sweet brew. Oh, it's bad. And it wasn't an easy journey to the goldfields with many of the people who had come from overseas spending seven or eight months cramped on ships just to get to the country. And for the people living in the city that were traveling to or from the goldfields, they were often held up by bush rangers on the way there. So you're like, I found a hundred thousand dollar nugget.

I've just got to go take it back to my family. Bush ranger. That would be no good. And when you're stealing like cash from someone, like if you just had heaps of cash on you, you'd have like a little bit, you'd separate it. So they might get some of it, but not all of it. But with a gold nugget. Oh, you got to shove it up your chuff.

That's the only option. What's your chuff again? The chuffer, your chuff. My chuff. Shuff it up your chuff. We've all got one. What's wrong with you? You know what I mean?

Throat. Yeah. Shuff it up. Your chuff. Nostril. Your nostrils. Your nugget hole. Gotcha.

Day. The nugget bank. Stop. It's what they called it. That's not what they called it at all. Check it up the nugget bank. Got to make a deposit, the nugget bank. You make it back up to the bank and you have to say I'd like to make it deposit.

I'm going to need a few minutes. I'm good for it, I swear. It's a soft metal, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I mean, when it's hot enough. That's right. It's not liquid at room temperature. How, you've got to probably chuffs.

Chuff means like chimney, right? Chimmy's a warm. You're going to shove up. Yeah, but it's warm. They are very warm chuffs. Now, if you did make it to the mining sites, diets were very poor. Some people died of dysentery and typhoid

from the lack of cleanliness and lack of sewage. But remember, you're there to strike it rich. Yeah. It's worth it. What a nightmare. It sounds horrible, but I am a dreamer. I'm a dreamer. So you take it.

But I'm not very good in conditions where you don't have anything less than business class yeah yeah there it is I need the luxury of an empty truth unlike anything

if people are making money so some people are making money especially when you first get there because if you're one of the first people there gold is ridiculously easy to find in comparison to you know right now if you go into your backyard

you don't expect to find anything but at the time you could be expected to see something you know it's not a ridiculous dream so you're saying I shouldn't dig my backyard. I reckon you should, just in case. Never know.

Yeah. I mean, he's not talking about your town. This is a whole different place. I don't know if there's been a gold rush in your neck of the woods. That was found your gold yet. Excellent. But like anything, if people are making money, the government are going to ask for a cut of the pie. Yeah, they do that, do they?

Why are there pies now? Gold pies. Golden pie. And there was that much coal, they just didn't know what to do with it. Golden plain, golden pie. People are going crazy. Golden tickets. Wow.

Was Willie Wonka involved? Yeah. Bloody hell. Obviously, of course he was. Oh, dumb question. What's he like, huh? What does he like? Gold.

Chocolate. Yeah, he's cold. Joy. Spreading joy. Just four days after Thomas Hiscock's discovery of gold, he's the guy that kicked this whole thing off, that was just four days after it was published by the Geelong advertiser. I did work experience there.

Oh my goodness. So many connections. Many, many years. later, to be honest. Just a few years ago. Yeah, much closer to our time than to theirs. That makes sense. Yeah.

Just four days after that was published and everyone sort of... I wonder if it was the same editor. He was really lovely. Was he really old? No. Okay. But just four days after it was published in Jess's future newspaper, Lieutenant Governor Charles La Trobe

Oh. Claimed in the Government Gazette, Crown rights for all mining proceeds. So, you know, that's them claiming their stake. Ours. And a licence fee of 30 shillings per month, effective from the 1st of September 1851. And a license fee is just for the right to have a crack and go and dig.

You have to pay a fee. 30 shillings a month. I wonder how much that would be. Would that be a lot? From what I've read, it's not a ridiculous amount. But for people, if you find nothing, it's a lot. Yeah, got to. It's a big chunk of zero.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, cool. Side notes, Jess, I don't know if you remember, but Charles La Trobe is the guy that Josh Earl, from Don't You Know Who I am, spoke about when we were on his pod a few weeks ago. He told us that when La Trobe's wife died, he then quickly married her sister. Do you remember he said that?

So Josh was right, and I just looked into this, and this is true. And apparently it was illegal at the time, because marrying your wife's sister was considered incest. Oh. Until 1907, when an act of parliament in the UK, called the deceased wife's sister marriage act of 1907. Holy shit. Was introduced and began allowing a man to marry his dead wife's sister,

which had previously been forbidden. And also a wife could now marry her dead husband's brother. Okay, because I was like, that is a weird, least specific. Can you imagine the guy that's campaigning for that? Yeah. To put that in a... Context, that's a long time before women got the vote in Australia and so long before Indigenous Australians got the vote

or even allowed to be citizens. We had priorities in order. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? But let us marry... Obviously, top of the list. Yeah, yeah. I want to marry my dead wife's hot sister. It should be the dead wife hot sister.

It does seem strange, doesn't it? Sorry, we were just thinking maybe we could treat our women and Indigenous Australians as humans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Have you seen my wife's sister? I need to marry that.

Your wife is still very much a lot. Yeah, but she won't always be. Yeah? An air and a spare, am I right? All right. Oh, what? An heir and a spare? I haven't heard that.

What does that mean? That's what people refer to when royalty have two children. Oh, an heir is there. I'm the spare in my family. It's just expanded. I'm the first of three spares. But you're the first boy. Does that still matter in the British?

No, not anymore. No, not since Princess Charlotte was born. Oh, sick. Good on them. But she's still certainly the spare. Oh, she's the spare for sure. You would have been in the air. Right.

Wait, what is? It doesn't matter. But who is Charlotte? Okay. George's little sister. William and Kate's Charlotte. Right. Since she was born, it's changed.

Yep. since she was born and they knew it wasn't going to be relevant. Yeah. Cool. No, but it is relevant because I had the new son, Louis, and he would have gone up the chain. Yeah, he would have been ahead of Charlotte, but now she would still take it first.

Yeah. God, sorry. That's, I forget you guys are monos. Yeah, we're monos. Mono brows, monograms, monopoly. mononyms when people are referred to as just one name for example prince or Dave or yeah I love people I was Dave people said that and they knew who you were talking about

what about Dave and Melbourne comedy yeah we know Dave Dave sure Prince Bob Bob Bob actually has a chance a lot Pop has a chance actually you could be Stephen you could be a good chance for Stephen No, that's taken by that little dog Oh wait, sorry, I get you too confused I'll let him have that fucking death That's a title That fucking dog

You hate that dog so much No, I really like dogs but that one I can't have out of him I really secretly a cat Something about him What does that make you? Dave still, sorry I guess I do get confused

I'm Dave Right, yep Is Dave trying to tell us he's a cat I'm not sure crying out for help you Meow Perring out for help Get that man a saucer of milk

I went to a cafe today And the toilets There was two toilets And one had like a rooster on it Cocks I guess But then the women's ones had a cat Oh so it is cocks and pussies

It took me a really long time to get it Like I was like Why am I going into the right one And then I was like, oh, pussy's. Oh, that feels like a gross bar or sort of set up. Yeah, but it was like quite a lovely cafe in Richmond. So quirky. I was like, oh, I don't want to, but I do need to we.

Anyway, get this man a saucer of milk. Anyway, so that was just my little side note on Charles LaTrope. And that was our little side note. On my little side note. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Anyway, La Trobe introduced these fees. Such a big name here, La Trobe as well.

Oh, yeah, La Trobe Valley, multiple universities. I attended one. Just one. I missed who he was. Just quick, very quickly. He's the governor. He's the governor at the time. Okay.

Did he go on to become a prime minister or anything? No. We did not. But yeah, so he's big in Victoria because he was an early government. I assume all these old dudes are bad people as well on some level. Certainly by today's standards. Is that fair in this guy's case? Well, I mean, in the stockade, people are often, and we'll let you see who you want to side with, often side with the working class diggers, the miners.

Right. He's basically on the other side. Gotcha. I'm going to side with the riches. All right. You and La Trobe. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm all about cash. Yeah. And marrying dead sisters. Yeah. Hang on. No, that's not right. It's not a necromancing thing. I mean, he's not that bad.

Is that what necromancing is? Doesn't matter. Please do go on. Anyway, Governor La Trobe introduced these fees for two reasons, the gold license fees. The first is the fast-growing population had cost the government a lot of money. After all, they had to supply services for all these people. So he hoped to raise revenue with the licences. Services such as Manipedes.

Yes, optional, dental. Dental, etc. Yes. Free salt. Free sale? Oh my God. Valet parking. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Everywhere. I mean, he needed cash. Basically, everyone had a chauffeur. Yeah. Headed himself into a corner here. Yeah, I don't know what Eden. And he just said that's all part of the Victorian service. Yeah, sorry about that.

Yeah. There was a time at some point where apparently Melbourne was like the richest city in the world, very brief time. I think it was around this period because of the gold. Yeah, yeah. And it was just flush with cash. But because of the population. and grew so quickly at the sewerage systems and stuff went up to scratch and it started to stink

and apparently then started getting the nickname, Smelben. Good fun, good fun little possible fact there. Oh yeah, no, I feel. I remember on the Birken Wheels, you're actually. Maybe that's where I learnt it when I said it. Yeah, no. Well, that's good that you retained something from an episode so long ago because I already don't remember last week's episode and I did it.

Jim Belushi. Well, you did post about it this week. Hey, we got away with that. No one said anything. I just woken up. Anyway, last week's episode is about John Belushi, which Jess spoke about for about an hour and a half, and then posted this week's episode's Jim Belushi.

It's because I... We talked about it. Well, because the episodes go live at like one, and I woke up at about quarter past one after doing radio till 6 in the morning. Oh, right, man. Oh, I'm sorry. Triple J National Radio

So I was a little bit delirious and sleepy still So Absolutely fair enough No, it's not, it's no excuse I mean That makes sense Matt caught it so fast and fixed it for me I could but yeah, I was expecting

Because there were comments But all the comments were positive I can't wait, I'm like, really? I mean Oh Kelly Sue fans, fair enough Anyway, Let's try to

Let's give Jess time to breathe. La Trobe's second reason for having these gold fees, he also hoped the fees would stop people from fleeing the cities to try and strike it rich. The gold rush had been a huge strain on the workforce. So the government are struggling to fill jobs, basically, because everyone's left to go get rich.

Good time to be around. Good time to want a cushy job in local government. Only you probably, they wouldn't be cushy because you'd be, you'd be run off your feet. Yeah, you'd be the one person in that department. You're the sewage person. That's why it smells so bad. Oh shit. Because it's Matt doing a whole city.

Oh, all right, great. Smelly Matt. That's what they called him. You were alive during this period, am I right? Yes. And you were smelly during this period, were you not? Yes. They had invented showers yet, I don't think.

The stench. They hadn't invented men body wash And I will not use any sort of floral body wash It needs to be in a black container Yeah Alright go for it It's got to be suitable for my body My face and my head

My hair Do it all Body wash Oh I hate when you go into a hotel And they've just got one for everything No that's gross No Yeah that's gross

There is a shower gel In my shower that claims to to all three, which is just weird. You need a conditioner, please. Am I right, Matt? Oh, sure. Obviously, you need a condition. Yes.

But you do an old body shampoo and then you do an old body condition. Candition. And then a condition. And a candution. That's the attitude. So the fees of 30 shillings a month. You asked before if it was a lot.

I've got here, regardless of you. I asked before. I was thinking that I'm like, no one can hear that he's pointing at me. So it's fine. I won't mention it. I know. No, no, no. I'll bring it up.

Now, Matt, you asked before if it was a lot per month. And I'm going to tell Jess that... Don't tell Jess. She doesn't give a shit. Tell me. Well, Matt, for the average minor, it was... For the average minor, it was quite a lot. And it only got harder to pay when the surface gold, this alluvial stuff, began to run out.

So this is according to the National Museum of Australia. So in 1852, pretty early on, 35,000 miners were in the Victorian gold fields, and they were producing about five ounces of gold per head. Not bad. Wow. But by 1854, just two years later, the population had almost tripled while production had decreased to just one and a half ounces per head. So there's a lot less to go around now.

Yeah. And more people. Yes. So it was getting harder to make a living in these licenses became quite a point of contention because everyone's paying for them, but not everyone's finding gold. Yeah. And if somebody was on like a real hot streak of finding gold, you can imagine that everybody else would just be hating them. You just hate them, wouldn't you?

Wouldn't you hate them? Ugh. Worst. Yeah. Worst to the worst. Troopers that were referred to as traps. Up come the troopers, one, two, three. Next line.

Matt, that was a little bit derivative. And they came and they watched and they waited for the willy wall. Who's going to come over here there now? Everybody sing, la la la la la la. Weltsing Matilda. Two, three. I'm laughing that some overseas... Jolly, jolly jump.

Muzziculture. This is what we're taught. Yeah, at a very young age. We all know those songs. I haven't heard that in a long time, but that was a song I used to hear all the time. Was that not a mismatch of many songs? You tell me.

Yes, it was. I think it was a mish-o-mish. A mish-mish. It was a mish-mish-mish. Maybe kish-mish-mish-mish. I think it's... You're looking for the word of remit. But so what did you say, trooper?

Troopers refer to as traps, because they're not liked by the diggers. And they're the cops, basically. Yeah, so they conducted searches for diggers' licenses on the goldfields. And they'd send out men to track down those that hadn't paid. Right. So they're the po-po. Getting in there, enforcing Latrobe's laws, making people, cough up cash that they often don't have.

There was widespread police corruption at all levels of enforcement as well. The miners claimed that the police were extorting money, accepting bribes and imprisoning people without any due process. The diggers could also be forced by the gold commissioned police to relocate without compensation. So you've worked on a site for a long time, hoping that any day now you find a nugget of gold and then out of nowhere they could just force you to move on for no reason. Right.

Just kick you off. And obviously, people hate that. There was obvious malice between diggers and officials and the police, and by 1854 in the month of May, Governor Charles La Trobe resigned in despair at the, quote, atmosphere of insurrection in the gold fields. Insurrection. Yeah, so he...

That means like, can't get a bono. It's going in inside. Right. Oh, my God. And I imagine if that was the atmosphere doing that. Oh, my God. Any dicks. Why'd spread any dicks?

That would be too. Widespread. Like, chodey, chodey in these. Because of the atmosphere. Wow. The air was causing it. I did not know that about the Euricus. So is that, do you know what's causing it?

Yes. It's the air. It's the air. And then he was like, I've got to go. I quit. And the spare? No, that's why you have a spare. Okay.

You keep them in a different, an oxygen-proof chamber. You open the chamber. They've suffocated years ago. Right. You thought you'd save them, but you didn't. It's funny how the systems I used to have is in it I know I really should have thought that through

Technology's really moved so far James I'll come back when I need you I'm going to put you in this oxygen-free chamber Goodbye James we need you James Oh dear Oh dear I should have had a third spare

A second spare No a third spare I had two Two inside the oxygen-proof chamber James one and James too. I have no longer happened James. So Charles La Trobe, he just suddenly quit.

He had to wait for the new governor to arrive. Another famous name is Victoria replaced him. Oh, Ian McKellen. Wow. Gumble gore. Gumble gore. Let me try again. Each other word copyright over there.

Oh, Gumblegaw's here. No, I shall not gas. Is he Gumbled or Gandolph? Gandolph. But both together is Gumblegore. Gondel Gour. That's great. The former Supreme Wizard being.

They are basically the same character, right? I look. Bearded guys. I'm going to tend to beards all look the same to me. So Sir Charles Darwin. Yes. What? No.

Writing on a turtle. Charles. Tortus. They've named a mountain after him. Dandyong Rangers. Charles Blue Mountains. No Victorian mountains. Charles Kosiosko.

Charles Buller. Charles Buffalo. Charles Hotham. Charles Hotham! Oh, fuck! It was Sir Charles Hotham replaced him. So mad, you got it. I mean, I did have all the guesses, though.

I'm surprised. Yeah, typical. Yeah. Privilege. I don't know, Charles Hotham. So Charles Hotham arrived. He found the colony's finances in chaos. the deficit for the year was two million pounds and revenues were falling sharply.

And back then, two million pounds is like all the money in the world. Wow. That's a lot. That can't be. Look. So there was no money left in London. It's all the money in the world except for one pound. Wow.

There's one pound going around out there, feeding everyone. It's very dangerous situation. Oh, no. Oh dear. According to an article by the Lancaster Infantry Museum that I read, As many as half of the diggers didn't pay for their license fees. People are evading at all costs. Ballers.

So Hotham chose to take on the miners and collect the money that the colony badly needed. This meant more police raids and the divide between the so-called law and the diggers became even greater. The so-called law. I know which side Dave's sitting on. Yeah. I don't have any of a bias side here. Most of the diggers hadn't found their fortunes and anything they did, they found they thought of theirs and theirs alone. and at this stage they didn't have any rights to vote

so had no hope of overturning the legislation enforcing the taxes. They've got no say in it, which also was pissing them off. There was a lot of stuff parling up now and all that was needed was one incident to tip the diggers over the edge. Oh my God, what's it going to be?

Bad batch of stew. That's it. Let's build a stockade. That's it. This is bullshit. This juice sucks There was riots in the streets It was a really bad bad

That got me so much This two sucks They're all grumpy teenagers Oh I hate you I hate you so much Hotham I want to go live with dad You're not even my real dad

Hotham Latrobe was my real dad And he's gone Shacked out with His wife's sister She's not even my real mom She's my auntie. Now she's my stepmom.

It's very confusing. It sucks. But there's one incident that's going to tip them over the edge. And that incident came on October 6th, 1854. Ooh. There's a lot of stuff piling up, as I said. And there was one incident to tip the diggers over the edge. What was it?

Murder. Oh. Oh, tag it. It was target. I'm married though Well it was Scottish minor James Scobie Scobie

Not the most Scottish sounding name I've ever heard James Scotchy Scobby Scobby He's done a wee scobby James Scobby Went to the Bentley's hotel

To have a drink with a friend Peter Martin No big deal Just having a drink with a friend But there was a big deal Because when they got to the pub The place was shut And Martin claims

A hand smashed through a window and hit James Scobie. Okay, that is odd. It's also been said... Does the piano you play? Stop? Well, it couldn't before. No, it's also been said that Scobie tried to break into the closed pub.

To me, that makes more sense. Rather than someone punching through a window to punch you, why would they do that? Just come outside and punch me. That's pretty badass, if that is with somebody did. It's so good. Yeah, that's cool. Or super coward punch. I'm not sure which.

window. Either way, a scuffle broke out between Scobie, his mate and the people inside the pub and Scobie tried to fight back, but his friend Martin dragged him away. The pub owner, James Bentley and his staff thinking that Scobie had smashed the window, which he may have done, tried

and tried to break into their pub. They followed the men and attacked them. Scobie was hit with what Martin described as something resembling an axe. Possibly an axe. Scobie died of his injuries. murder. I'm so confused. Wait, so either he was in the pub, and joined the pub. Oh, it was closed. So either he tried to break in and smashed a window or someone smashed a window to punch him.

Oh, through the pub. Through the pub. And he was walking path. That's what his mate says. That's a little far-fetched. It sounds fun. But basically, a scuffle broke out, Scobie was murdered. An inquest into his death was held that same afternoon. Scuffle, people don't die and stuff. scuffles. That's not a scuffle. That's a brawl. That's a brawl. A really big scuffle broker. Dave, say brawl. It's not big enough to be a brawl, Jess. It's a legal definition.

Wow, he's good. He's by the book out, Dave. Thank you. Well, something that wasn't by the book was the inquest that they held that day. They did it. Inquest to the... Stars. Mudda. Oh, okay. Inquest to the stars about... At the inquest, James Bentley, the...

pub owner. He was the one that was accused of killing Scobie. He denied taking part in the death, despite the evidence against him. The evidence was that people witnessed him yelling, die, die, die. And my axe to your face. The local miners, Giblets. Ghiblets. My favorite character, him and gumble gore. Gumble go. So he got off. And then he was released. He bloody loves a broken glass window, punched to the face, murder. The local miners felt that justice had not been served and were frustrated with what they saw as a dodgy decision made against one of their own.

One of the court members was a police magistrate, well known to have taken bribes from Bentley, the guy accused of murder. How very interesting. The diggers came together and began to protest this miscarriage of justice. The anger came to a head when 10 days after Scobie, death, a group of 5 to 10,000 men and women gathered together to discuss the case. That is a big discrepancy. It's also very difficult for 5,000 or 10,000 people to discuss anything.

Good point. Oh my God. Imagine being in that group. Hey, hey, guys, no, no, my turn. No, no, no. Let's listen to what Jess has to say. Okay. Hey, you 8,000 over the back.

Come on. A small group decided to take action into their own hands, and they burnt the Bentley hotel to the ground. Whoa. Whoa. So they burnt the pub, the guy who was accused of murder and got off. He owned the pub. Some of the arsonists were arrested for their crimes and sent to six months in jail.

Whoa. A few days went past and a new witness came forward that implicated the pub owner in the murder and he was eventually found guilty of manslaughter and sent to three years hard labor. I did not know any of this. Huh. Really? Really. Really.

Three years of hard labor for manslaughter. That's interesting This event is seen as pivotal And pivotal In the lead up to the culmination of this story This was the Oh God, we haven't got to the story yet Pivotal in the culmination of the preamble

No this was the first major time The Diggers had come together in such numbers And rebelled against authority I think that they were just starting to see The power that the people united has Power to the people That's right. Over the next weeks,

the miners met and elected leaders who approached the new Victorian governor, Charles Hotham. They demanded the release of the men who burnt down Bentley's hotel and cheaper miners' licenses. But the governor, being a bit of a wanker, took offence to having demands made of him and dismissed their grievances.

Get out of my chambers. I'm trying to have a bath. Oh, was he having a bath? He didn't mention that, Dave. He was having a bath. In blood of the mine. The common man.

Was he some sort of a vampire governor? I don't bathe in it. Oh. They drink it. Oh. It's arguably worse. Yuck. You need a lot less to drink than to bathe in.

Good point. I mean, what, average person is about six liters? You're feeling a 200-liter bath. Oh my God. You killed a lot of people. Just for a bath. So, Hawthor's a bit of a wanker, but sensing that these people should be completely ignored,

he then dispatched 150 British soldiers from the 40th regiment of foot to Belorat to reinforce the police and soldiers already stationed there. Just in case shit started to get real. He sent in some reinforcements. Oh dear. And on the way over to reinforce their colleagues, it did get real, Jess. Uh-oh. It did.

Spaghetti. An army baggage cart was stopped by armed. I imagine it was that. It was stopped. By arm diggers. A soldier was badly beaten and a drummer boy was shot in the leg. Oh my God. Not the drum.

I know. He's the most innocent of all boys. Parapapum-pum. Hopefully, yeah, especially, I mean, leg at first, I'm like, I think God, I was on his leg, he can still drum. But drummer boys often had those symbols between their knees. Oh, no. So that, I mean, hopefully he's not one of them, because that, I mean, he can't do any of the crashes.

Well, no, I'm thinking of one-man bands. Yeah, he was not a one-man band. He was a one-man drummer boy. Okay. Thank God. Thank goodness. Elsewhere, diggers attacked mounted policemen with clubs and stones. So violence is starting to take place here.

Sensing a change in atmosphere, the diggers held another mass meeting on November the 29th at Bakery Hill. There's a McDonald's at Bakery Hill. They met in the McDonald's car park of Bakery Hill. Pete Jones in the room next to us currently at the time of recording. From the Kentucky Fried chatting podcast. Pete Jones. I believe his favorite McDonald's in Ballarat.

What a, that is a fun fact. I think people have just pulled over. People who were driving down the highway, I've gone, I need to take a moment. No, what they need to do is call their friends because what they've just realized is that I know that about my very good friend, Pete. But do they know their friends, favorite McDonald's?

Favorite McDonald's? I doubt it. I doubt it. Just ask a question. Just reach out to one another. Yeah. Connect. Get off your phones.

Yeah. Connect with one another. My favorite one is the one that has the two big archers that from a certain angle, it looks like it spells. Boobes. Is that the original one? Yeah, it was the one that Jess talked about in the McDonald's episode. Yeah, it looks like boobs.

Oh. But a certain angle looks very sexy. Anyway, they're at Bakery Hill. 10,000 of them congregated to hear the news of what Hotham said to their demands. When they were told he ignored their pleas, they decided to form the Belarat Reform League. The BRL The BRL Brill

The Borl The Borl The Canadian minor Called Captain In quotation marks Henry Ross Produced a Captain Henry

Ross Produced a flag stitched together by English women Anastasia Withers Anne Duke and Anastasia Hayes It was a white cross

With a star At the end of each arm On a blue background They called it the Southern Cross and it was hoisted up a flagpole as a symbol of their resistance. I hadn't yet discovered the actual Southern Cross.

Pardon? I mean, there is a Southern Cross. That's right, the constellation. And they hadn't figured that one out yet, I'm guessing, or chose to ignore it and make up their own Southern Cross. Well, I think this was their just their bad, like, yeah, I'm assuming this is their bad attempt at it, was it? Yeah, sort of, I think it's to represent.

I mean, the Southern Cross, to me, it looks like an off, it's kind of a skew-if diamond, if anything. Who's seeing a cross in that anyway? That should be called. That's what it should be called. The skew-if cross. Yeah. No, the skew of diamond. The Australian skew if diamond.

Get that tattered on your leg, mate. Oh, beautiful. Anyway, they group gathered before. My granddad died under the skew if diamond. The group gathered before and saluted the flag. In Australia, this is a very famous flag, and to this day still use, as a symbol by labour groups and unions. Yes.

Now the meeting passed a resolution, quote, that it is the inalienable right of every citizen to have a voice in making the laws he is called on to obey, and that taxation without representation is tyranny, end quote. So that's what they're gathering towards. They want to be able to vote,

and they do not want to be taxed unless they vote. The newly reformed league shot their guns into the air, and threw their gold mining licenses onto the fire. Yeah, stick it to the man. Did the bullets rain back down on them? No, they shot them at an appropriate angles. Oh, okay. But they rained down on someone.

Oh, that's good. That's one I never really thought about. Like, as a kid, I just, yeah, it doesn't disappear into the sky. Surely in the history of humanity, someone has shot it into the air and has just come down and hit an innocent person just a few miles away. Bloody hell. Makes you think, doesn't it? I'm going to think twice next time I fire my gun into the air haphazardly.

I have been just willy-nilly 21 gun salute for everything. My wheatbecks were delicious this morning. Anyone counting so far? I think it was six. So I'm just buying my bullets at the self-scanning register before I go and shoot. You're buying the bullets at one at a time? They don't have a value pack? One bullet.

Yeah, one cent apiece. It's a real good deal. It is a good deal. Okay. I don't know. Keep going. All right. Now I'm going to load the gun.

What does that sound like? How many does this is gun hold? That's three. Four. Five chikas. Six. That sounds appropriate. No, okay.

It's got more than that. That's a seven shooter. Wow. Oh, wow. Three full rounds. And you do your 21 gun. Salute. Is that what you said? Is it a silencer? Can you take the silencer off?

It's more effective that way. Thank you. Oh, wow. Can you stop kicking that dog under the table and start faring the gun? Sorry, I forgot what we're doing here. Sorry, pup. Sorry, I'm going to sell someone that pup later. People thought you were firing a gun, but you were just kicking a pup. All right, so you've done three with a silencer. Four more to go.

Sorry, you want me to do the other... Just do the rest of this, click. And then we'll do the others after the show, right? Some more without the song. Okay, great. Sorry, that dog is really... Sorry, I'm...

Sorry, mate. Just give us one second. It needs to be fed. Mike, come on, just let us fire the gun. Fip! Did you just pop a champagne bottle? Because we've only done three bottles. I was ready to celebrate, but I forgot.

The job at hand needs to get... completed before we... Four minute ago and then we'll have us champagne. All right, sorry. All right, here we go. Last four. No! Sorry, someone just put their hand up my chuffer.

All right. Well, sorry about that. I won't put my hand up there. Four more to go. Okay, just let me bloody shoot this gun, will you? Oh, okay. That was one. That's two.

Well, up the chuff again. Sorry about that. Dave, please. I'm trying to shoot my fucking gun. Sorry, I'll let you get your light off. Cops are here. Well, because you've been shooting a gun into the air and kicking a dog. Fucking fuck, all right.

The ambos. Oh, my God, the ambulance. Did you just step on, step in something? I just cannot shit. Did you step on that champagne bottle? Yeah, crunched it. All right, here we go. Bang.

Bang. Bang. Oh, you got one more bullet to go. Bang. Bang. Wow, the seven-shot salute, finally. Oh, wow, so you just do that three times, Jess, every time you want to celebrate something.

Is that correct? Absolutely. Well, that will not be tedious. I imagine you'll trim that out. No, leave all of that fucking goal in. And hopefully you're coming to a do-go automation to you somewhere soon. Good luck. Good luck, Joe Didier, John.

All right. What are we talking about? The authority started to sense that something was going on, mainly because dogs are being kicked, champagne bottles popped, and guns being shot into the air. So what better way than to stop this craziness than to add fuel to the fire and go on another gold license hunt? As they move from tent to tent demanding these licenses,

this is the police, a large group of diggers decided that had enough. A man named Peter Lawler stepped forth, clutching a rifle and demanded that his fellow diggers take up arms and stand up for their, quote, rights and liberties. About 500 answered his war cry and this group marched back to... Sorry, Dave, his war cry?

Matt, what did that sound like? Let's get him, boys! I reckon it did. And with that war cry, they went to Bakery Hill. Yeah, that's where all the wars start. Back up to the Maccas Car Park. A couple happy meals.

The flag was still flying there. Happy meal and hand. Beneath this flag, Peter Lola, who became the leader of the Ballarat Reform League, swore, this is a famous quote in Victorian history, We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and to fight to defend our rights and liberties. To party. And to party. So Ballarat is still the party capital of Australia.

Oh, yeah. His mum walked in and said, what's that noise? I'm just jealous. It's the Ballarat Boys. Beasie Boys. Right. So who was this hero? Are you asking Jess? Thank you for saving me there. I didn't realize you guys were not as down with hip hop as me. We do not have licenses to ill or otherwise.

Just to kill. Just to kill. So who was this hero, Jess? Well, I'll answer that question. Peter Lawler was born in Ireland in 1827. He was the youngest of 11 children. Too many. We have to ask, why? not stop at 10. Correct.

And also, do they know what was causing it? 11. The youngest of 11. See, my mum... It's a Baker's Hill doesn't. Very good. Mum's one of nine kids, which means there's 11 in their family. They should have...

I mean, it would have been nice if there was 10 of them, but that would mean that my uncle Jeff wasn't alive. And he's arguably my favourite. Stinky Jeff. Stinky Jeff. I mean, I like that you got rid of Jeff before. Or just adding another child, that would have taken. No.

That's not right. 12. 12 would bother me a little bit too. A dozen. Dirty dozen. Sure, that's fine. Yeah. No.

You guys don't get it. Yeah, we don't get the number. I'm so sorry. It's a weird thing. I don't know. It's got to be round numbers. Yeah. It's got to be groups of 10 or 5.

Yeah. So 12's not good, even though it's divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12. Great point. Now that you've put it into maths. for me. Thank you. Now, if you could just relate it to geography, my other strength,

then you'll fully have me on board. Do you even fucking know who you're talking to? She asks that a lot off air. She says that, do you know who I am? Do you know who you're fucking talking to? Do not look me in the eye. You scum people. That's what I say.

Anyway, back to Peter Lawler, one of 11 children. He was a trained engineer and originally moved to Melbourne to work on the Geelong Melbourne Railway line, but like so many, deserted his job to go to the goldbrush. Wow. He was reportedly a charismatic man, well-spoken,

and he was elected as the rebellion's leader, as I stated. Lawler, come boys, let's get him. So charismatic. And it sounds really Irish, too. To be sure he does. I mean me. I does. Yes.

Thank you and good night. The queen was there. Now I'm saying Lawler It's actually spelled L-A-L-O-R I read that you say it That they said Lola And the suburb that we call Layla Laylor

Laylor is named after him Even though they now say it wrong I did not know that Yeah so but I At the time What I've read is Lawla But obviously when you see it written down It does look like Layla

I think in like You got me on my knees La La La La So Lola Lawler, I should say, and the 500 or so rebels that had joined him, threw up a ram-shackle-stockade around an acre or so under their southern cross-flag. Must have been a big night if they were throwing up a ram-shackle stockade the next day.

Sounds like a few of Matt's weekends. Well, like any big night, it involved a German blacksmith. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hammed out some crude pikes. That's a sex position, of course. Oh, baby, what do you reckon? We do the German blacksmith.

It's a special occasion. I'll get the horseshoes ready. Clop, plop, clop, plop, plop, plop. A lot of role play going on there. Yeah, got to keep it fresh. So the blacksmith hung out and hammered out, some crude pikes and others gathered timber from the nearby mine shafts and created a stockade.

And if you're not familiar with the stockade, basically it's just a small wooden flaxen. fence type fortification to stand behind as defense. They made a picket fence. I was not sure what it was. Okay. You weren't sure? Oh, right, sure.

I imagine, I only knew what it was because of this story, I imagine. Because researching this story for this exact podcast. No, but just growing up because I think... So you learned this quite recently. No, I knew this from Sovereign Hill. Doubt it. We can talk about at the end of this episode, if you like. No.

Which we will not talk about at the end of the episode. Hastily built. This is the stockade. I'm trying to move on quickly. It wasn't meant to be a giant fortress or anything. In the words of Lawler, quote, it was nothing more than an enclosure to keep our own men together and was never erected with an eye to military defence.

It's been criticised over the years because people see there's like paintings and stuff of it and it looks pretty shitty. People are like, how are you going to win a war with that? And basically, it was just a little structure. And his plan was if shit got really real, they'd run away, lead the invaders to another part and then have their last stand. So it wasn't even going to be the place where they, you know,

laid down their guns and died. Wow. But over the next two days, the men and women remained in and around the stockade, many performing military drills in preparation for a possible conflict. A military structure was assembled and people were divided into brigades led by different assigned captains. 200 Americans arrived at the stockade to aid in the rebellion.

Most of these people were armed with revolvers and possessed horses and were a welcome addition. They bought in some new supplies with them. But nearly all of this group left to ambush a group of enemy soldiers and police that they had heard were arriving from Melbourne. Many of the other men and women left on the Saturday night thinking it's not possible that the police would attack on the Sabbath of a Sunday. So now there was only about 150 people left inside the stockade. It feels like you're mentioning these things because that's not good. The commissioner?

I know. Of the Ballarat Goldfields, Robert Reed had no intention of observing the Sabbath. Oh, what? Incensed by the rebels practicing military drills, he called for the police and army to destroy the stockade at first light on Sunday the 3rd of December. Apparently, he was also very well informed by spies from within the stockade and knew that most of the men and women had left by this point. Do you know what snitches get? Not good Christmas presents. Correct.

Riches? Yep. Yeah. Really? I guess they do. Sell them out all the way to the bank. It really pays to be a snitch. Yeah, right.

Yeah, they get a bad rap. They do. But really, they're just savvy. Yeah. Good business people. Yeah, they think they're putting them first. And sometimes you have to do that. You have to run this bloody world, do you?

You're not wrong. I'll tell you what I'm not. Wrong. Wrong, what you said. Yeah. Just underlining that. Mm-hmm. Thank you.

Well worth. Underlining. Thank you. Tell you what you're not? What's that? Going to hold me up anymore. Okay. At 3 a.m. on Sunday the 3rd of December, a party of 276 soldiers and police under the command of captain.

They're partying now, Jess. 3 a.m. is first light. I knew there was going to be a party reference. Party dude. First light. No, so they're getting ready for first light. So at 3am, they get together under the command of Captain John W. Thomas. Thomas Town.

Party boy. Oh. Party boy, you know him. Under that, the 276 soldiers approached the Eureka stockade. Thomas reasoned that most diggers would be asleep or still drunk from the night before. The perfect time to sneak up on them and catch them unawares. Bananas and pajamas style. Do not sneak up on me when I'm hung over.

Oh, boy. Unless you're sneaking up with a gatorade and some hot chippies. Yeah. Then come on over. Maybe an orange juice. Help me get in the shower. A couple of... plastic chair in the shower.

Yeah. No, let me sit on the floor. Okay. I deserve that. Yeah, that's true. You've got to get the water pretty hot, I find, because by the time it gets to the floor, you've lost much of the temperature.

Do you reckon? It's a disgrace. Oh, but you are tiny. Yeah, I'm so close to the floor. I am, well, I'm in the drain. You picture in like some sort of, like a honey I shrunk the kid's scenario. Oh, yeah.

Where he's in this shower, where it's... Huge droplets. Yeah. And he has to dodge them. Or he'll draw. And there's a beetle there. He's friends with Andy rides a bee. Do you have fun, Dave?

I had a great day. Do you like showers? Thanks for shrinking me, Jess. Every shower. Every shower is possible death. But I don't want to smell. So worth the risk. So they're sneaking up on the stockade.

Thomas, the man in charge, ordered no shooting unless his bugler. gave the signal. Is that the signal? Yeah. Obviously. Why else would I make a silly sound in the middle of our report if not to help the story?

I thought you might have been gassy. Matt made a fart joke. Pretty happy with that one. Burb joke. 140 episodes. Finally on board. You finally get humour. Appreciate it.

Welcome. At dawn, there were spotted Less than 200 yards from the stockade. Now there's a bit of line. How far's a yard? How's like most of a metre? It's like 80 centimetres or something like that? 70.

91? No, one. Fuck. 91? Yeah. Oh, why? Is it a certain amount of feet? I mean, most things that are non-metric don't convert to metric very well.

That makes no sense. 91. 90's stupid enough. 91. But that's comparing any measurement to any. measurement. Because that 91 is 100, 100% of a yard. Wow, good point.

But how many, what goes, this doesn't matter. But is it feet and inches go into a yard? Or is that just someone else? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Sorry, Dave. I just, I didn't know how far 200 yards was. I do know that ex-prime minister Bob Hawke for a while

held the world record for scowing a yard glass, which is a yard of beer. Oh, he's all class, isn't he? All class. Bobbork. Oh, Bobby. What a guy. Sorry, Dev. So it's, yeah, okay.

So sneaking up. I have a visual picture now. One yard equals three feet. You happy with that? Sure. Three feet. Like three foot longs. Yeah.

Tell to me in sandwiches. So they were spotted less than 200. But how many six inches? Well, six. Ah. Wow. Got it. At dawn, they were spotted less than 200 yards on the

stockade. A bit of a lot coming up now. It's debated as to who shot first. Probably Grito, am I right? Is he the one not Hans Solo? Hans. Hans Zimmerman. That's Bob.

Is that Bob Dylan's real name? Who cares? Robert Zimmerman. Robert Zimmerman. He invented the Zimmer frame. But anyway, I'm trying to get to the bit where they start shooting it. Shot started ringing out from both sides, and then Thomas's bugle gave the signal. As if it wasn't already apparent.

Jess, if you want to step out. We can pause if you need some time. No. Show must go on. So now there's bullets flying everywhere. The digger's leader, Peter Lawler, was among the first casualties badly wounded. Oh. During the heart of the battle, he had been shot in his left arm. He then took refuge under some timber and was smuggled out of the stockade and hidden.

In someone's chuff? Like heroin. He was hidden in the chuff. He got mule. out of there. His arm was later amputated. Not his left one. That's my favourite one.

That's my favourite of Peter's arms. Yeah. The miners were easily outgunned, taken by surprise, and outsmarted by the professional soldiers. There was a brief, vicious fight inside the stockade before the diggers surrendered

and Captain Thomas ordered a ceasefire. The assault was over in 15 minutes with at least 22 diggers, including one woman and six soldiers losing their lives. according to Layla's report 14 miners, mostly Irish,

died inside the stockade and an additional eight later died from the injuries that they sustained. These are like minors as in gold diggers. Yes. So 22 gold diggers and eight police or soldiers.

15 minutes. That would have felt like an eternity though. Yeah. Oh, because I take so long. So you said they were outgunned, outsmarted. And taken by surprise. And taken by surprise.

They're the big three. Yeah. Feels like you need a lot. But they had a great structure at least. Oh no, fuck. Oh no. They did. They had a, well, a stockade.

A small fence. A very small fence. Chickens couldn't get in. Or out. No, they could get out. It's very. It worked against them. They had a little chicken flap in them.

But it only went one way. Out for some reason. They installed it backwards. It was meant to be an elaborate chicken trap. It was just that. They fucked it. It didn't. I bet the opposite.

One of the soldiers, John King stole the Eureka flag as a souvenir. Did it run off with it? Does it still exist? We'll talk about it. It does. The police arrested and detained 113 of the miners, so a lot of them. Eventually... Just arrest two more.

All right, we're going to need arrest two more. I would have to let a few go. We'll have to let three go. Thank you. Let 13 go, Jess. Wouldn't that be... Oh, that would be much better, thank you. Jess, how about this?

They let 100 go? Because eventually only 13 leaders were taken to Melbourne to stand trial. I mean, they let 100 go. Yeah, that's all right. It's a nice amount of people to let go. If we look at it that way, sure. But the 13, I don't love that. It's a Baker's Hill dozen.

13. Unlucky number. For those 13. Well, actually not because they were... They all won lotto that day. Yeah, they went in on a single ticket. No, they were lucky because, I say lucky, but only 13 were taken because the press and the public were in the most part on the side of the miners.

Right. And eventually, Jess, obviously not on the side of the miners. It's sparse. It's a weirdest. It's a weirdest sneeze I've ever done in my life. It was like, doom. I thought you'd shot a gun for a second. It sounded more like a gunshot than anything we've heard on this podcast.

Sorry. So the public and the press are on the side of the minus. And eventually they got so behind them that they were all released to great public acclaim. Holy shit. Public acclaim. Yeah. So it was more like these working class guys were standing up for everyone's rights. Woo!

Throughout this time, Peter Lawler, the leader, had been lying low and hiding out. Hotham offered a reward of 200. Lying low and hiding out. That's the big two. His bed was a, he didn't have a frame, it was just a mattress on the ground. You're right. And he had his legs out the window for temperature control. He got very hot.

Hot feet. He got very hot on his right remaining arm. Hotham offered a reward of 200 pounds for information, leading to the apprehension of a quote, person of the name of Lawler, misspelled. Height 5 foot 11, age 35, hair dark brown, whiskers, dark brown, shaved under the chin, no mustache, long face, rather good looking,

and a well-made man. Do you reckon if you were Lola and you saw that wanted someone? And you'd be like, rather good looking. Thank you. Okay, I'm coming. Yo-hoo! Yeah, that was his plan all along. Flatter him.

And I've also liked to cast this man in a feature film so if you could reach out to me via his agent or himself. Also, we assume massive schlong. I reckon he's got a big old ding-donger. I mean, it goes without saying this. I started that sentence, not fully knowing where I was coming. You started with... And a massive...

No, I knew the general theme, but I didn't think shlong was going to come out. I'm so sorry. It's a great word. It's not. It sounds big. It's fun to say. A small one can't be called a shlong. No, it's got a shlaughton.

So there's a reward on lawless head, but no one came forward for it because of the public were very much on the side of the diggers, as I said, and they weren't going to sell out the leader of it all. He was seen as like, you know, a real rebel. Short. Whilst hiding out, Lawler's damage arm was amputated, and according to the online Australian dictionary of biography, legend has it that Lawler recovering consciousness during the operation and seeing one of the doctors with signs of faintness yelled at him, Courage!

Courage! Take it off! What a guy! He was actually talking about Danny's shirt off. Take it off. He called his shirt Courage. He was a strange man. Courage, coach. take it off. I'm very hot. As I said earlier,

get my legs out the window. I need strict temperature control. My massive shlong keeps me warm. Lawler remained concealed in Belor out for several weeks. And from there, he was taken to Geelong where he was cared for by Alicia Dunn and he married her on

the 10th of July 1855 was St Mary's Church. That's cute. Why haven't they made a rom-com about that? It's not that calm, is it? No, not enough calm. A bit rummy though Rommy

Make a rom-y about No enough comb Make a bit more comie Okay Not red enough for me The public rallied behind Lola And bought him One hundred and sixty acres

Of good land near Ballarat They did a bit of a crowd fund for him A hundred and sixty acres You know what else is currently being crowdfunded That is a Gloveless finger palm-coolers by do go on We're up to over $200 In donations

Of 10,000 Stop which is about 2% overall. So 98% to go in three weeks, and I'll be making a living of it. So get involved. Just didn't put a link in the description of last week's episode, but I will.

So click below, check it out. I said, you said there'll be a link, and I said there absolutely will not be a link. And I wasn't. I do not lie. No. Like my hips. Don't lie.

They do not lie. I was thinking. Why is she going with this? Why does she bring up her hips all? I'm surprised didn't end in the word shlong on that time. I'm surprised too. My hips don't shlong. Just before the diggers were acquitted at trial, the reward for lawless capture was withdrawn.

Amazingly, the colonists generally shared Layla's judgment of the stockade, even the people in government. This was written about him. Neither anarchy, bloodshed nor plunder were the objects of those engaged. Stern necessity alone forced them to do it. So everyone eventually agreed, yeah, you had it pretty tough. Yeah. You did the right thing. They were protesting unfair conditions.

Totally. And he never faced any legal consequences for his actions. The outcome of the rebellion was very positive in the long run. Governor Hotham's promised Goldfield commission came out, because out of this he basically said, all right, I'll look into it. I'll look into it now. About a similar time that Lawler's reward was revoked,

digging license fees were abolished, replaced by a £1 per year claim titled deed, which also gave a digger the right to vote in council elections. So there are two things there that they were asking for. Lost revenue was made up with a new export tax on gold bullion. The rebellion had affected a real change. In the assembly, Lawler spoke out for the interest of the diggers and he successfully advocated compensation for the victims of Eureka.

So the families were given compensation of the people that were killed. Good. I shouldn't have been killed. Charles Hotham. She has our words. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they were there shooting at the cops. Yeah, with their words.

They were spitting rhymes so fast. And it sounded a little something. No, it didn't. Charles Hotham died a year later, so he didn't stick around for long. But it turned out that Peter Lawler's political life was only just beginning. Oh, oh. He became the first digger elected to the legislative council, so he became a career politician. By 1880, sorry, by 1880.

Sorry. He was Speaker of the House of Assembly, a position he held for seven years, which is a very high position. He died at 62 in 1889. So he, yeah. Holy shit, that's kind of cool. Did it really well out of it. He would have been in Victorian Parliament when Birkenwills were expeditioning.

Yeah, what if they knew each other? And when the Australian rules football was kicking off and stuff? That's very exciting. It's so much time. Yeah, so many, it's like a lot of the Australian-based episodes have been around that back end of the 1800s. What a time to be alive in Melbourne. Yeah. What a clever nickname.

That's something I did. I was starting to remember that before he got there that he got into politics. I think, and maybe I did learn a bit about it at primary school. I just can't. Very vague memories. A long time ago. Definitely is. Probably around that.

time. Yeah, it was around that time. At the time, it was in history. It was current affairs. They just read out the newspaper one morning and you remember that. Yeah. Which is good of you. The Geelong advertiser.

Obviously. Jess's future employer. Yes. Yeah. It was like back to the future though. So everyone's like they were played by the same actor just with like old timey clothes. So there was someone there called Jessica Perkins's grandma. Great Grandma.

Nice. Oh. And you guys, neither of you've seen back in the future. Yeah, we have. Have you? I was someone I always loved about it. They just had every generation had the same actors. Yeah.

There were a different name. Yeah, well, yeah, there were different names. Because my name is Jessica Perkins. That's the thing. Yeah, but your name is not Jessica Perkins' great-grandma. Good point. Yeah, half anided. You dropped that half-un-name.

Yeah. After the wall. I'm just going to remember. wrap up here the legacy of the Eureka Rebellion or the Eureka Stockade. Today the Eureka Stockade is seen by many as the birth of democracy in Australia

and it's one of the most influential things to ever happen in our home state of Victoria. Many things are named after the Eureka Stockade, including Melbourne's tallest building Eureka Tower. The Eureka Stockade story has been incorporated into the design. I didn't know this. The building's gold crown

represents the gold brush. A red stripe represents the blood spilt during the revolt. The blue glass cladding that covers most of the building represents the blue background of the stockades flag. The white lines also represent the most parts of the flag. I didn't know that. That's cool.

It makes sense. Yeah. Did you know that? I didn't know that, but I mean, they're really shoe-horning some of that. Oh, big time. But that's cool. Beautiful.

Beautiful shoe-hawning. It is hot. I mean... Shoe-horning. Wait, are these guys doing the German blacksmith? I mean, it is difficult to... They're doing the reverse German black sheep. So, yeah, that's with shoe horns, not horseshoes.

It is difficult to finish the report with fun facts, which is why I did not package that as a fun fact. Yeah, it wasn't that fun. I thought that was a fun fact. I wouldn't tell that at a dinner party. You've really swapped there. Just seemed quite like, yeah, yeah? And you were like, nah, it's pretty boring.

And then now you're like, oh, yeah, Jess is like, that's fucking... Yeah, we keep you guessing. Yeah. That was a good fact. I just, like, the designers going, You know, though... Oh, there's often a lot of pump and wank, isn't there? To get, you know, get picked out of the 40 architects that probably submitted for that design.

If you wanted, if they really wanted it to be an homage, right? Surely you'd... Be your what, sorry? An homage. Uh-huh. You know, you'd put that old school Southern Cross on there or something, but... Yeah. I mean, they named it the Eureka.

That fuck. I don't... Jesus, all right? Nothing against anyone. Good on you all. Wow. Wow. Now, Australian soldiers are colloquially referred to as diggers, popularised during the First World War,

there's debate as to where the term exactly came from, but many point to Australian soldiers calling themselves diggers, reflecting the mateship and independent spirit of the Eureka people. That's kind of cool. I actually didn't know where digers came from. I mean, also they did dig trenches. Sure. And often they did it for their lives. Like, landing at Gallipoli, you've got to dig to create any form of barrier. But that.

So we're good at. digging. Yeah, and some people refer to this, though, is why they're called diggers. Now, the final fact here, amazingly, the original Eureka flag survived Matt. Matt, that's a question you asked earlier. Trooper John King retained the flag and it was held by his family for 40 years till it was lent to the Bellarat Fine Art Gallery in 1895. It's quite damaged and bits are missing, but it can still be seen in a Belarat museum today.

The original one, it's all framed and it's got corners missing off it and it's a bit cut up. But it is the original flag. That's pretty amazing. That's sick. Keep in mind too that like Australia is a very, very new country relative to a lot of other places in the world. So like... Yes. Talking about white Australia is like one of the youngest.

That's right. So like, you know, buildings that are 100 years old here are. heritage listed and amazing. And then you go to like Europe and you see things that are centuries and you're like, okay, we're very new. So something that happened in the late 1800s for that to still be around is we go, wow. Yeah, that's right. How amazing.

Go to Europe and things are. But then at the same time, Indigenous Australian culture is the oldest surviving culture in the world. Yeah. which is hectic. Yeah. 50,000 years, 60,000 years. I think they often, every time they discover new things,

they realize, hang on. It's even further back. They've been here for a long, long, long, long, long time. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. Isn't that, yeah. White Australia, very new. It is a, it is a weird thing when you go to buildings in England or something.

I was like, oh, this was around since before. Yeah, like seeing ruins in. Before even my grandparents' rule. life. And they're old. Yeah, it's amazing. Now, Jess, I'll start the episode. I promised you some fun facts about the nugget. Oh, I thought...

Did you just look them up while I was talking? Yes, I did. Well done. And I found one trivia item. One little nugget. One little nugget, if you will. Thank you, Matt. And I will.

High five, definitely. Warranted. Definitely warranted. This is from the IMDB, uh, trivia part of the nugget, the 2002 Australian film. It says here, Eric Banner was the first choice to play Xander Cage in Triple X, but turned it down to do this movie. That's so good.

What a fantastic decision. I love Eric Banner so much. A big saint supporter. Do you know that about it? Is he? That is fun, Dave. Thank you. He got the Saints into, what's that, what he, Adam Sand the movie from a while back?

It's about a stand-up. He was playing a stand-up comedian. Funny people. Funny people. Yeah, there's a whole scene in it where Eric Banner's explaining footy in the sense playing Collingwood on the TV. That's right. Do you know how much triple X grossed?

Yes. 277 million. Oh, Eric. Good on you for doing that. A lot of that was in the Vince Colossomo performance, though. Finn Diesel. No, Vince Colossimo. You had it right the first time.

Fake. Always follow your gut. When your guts is. Vince Colossimo. But it's amazing to me still. Eric Banner is like a Hollywood. He's been a leading man in Hollywood and he was a sketch comedy actor on Australian TV in the 90s. He was so funny.

So funny. Poitre. Poitre. And every time the voice I would say Peter. Poitre. It's poitre. It's poitre. My favorite one is.

Him doing Ray Martin. Very good. I love when he's doing a cooking show. He's like, now I'm going to tell you how to cook a seven-course meal. That's a pie and a six. pack. What a guy. That is great.

That is my hero right there. So thank you very much to Hannan Dempsey from Perth for suggesting that topic. I think it's a good one. I think maybe reminded a few Aussies about their primary school, high school days

and overseas people, I imagine you hadn't heard of that. Probably not. And yeah, shout out to our Ballarat locals. Josh and Connor. Yes. Who also suggested it and, you know, are just lovely humans. Shout out to all that peeps in Belorat.

And shout out to that McDonald's. I agree with what they're doing right now. Flipping. Flipping burgers, I reckon. Doing what they do best, baby. Hey, so it's time. Is that in a report? Great report, Dave.

Yes, I thank you very, very much. Thanks so much for that's such handy knowledge to put back into my brain. Yeah, I think. I was given that flag. I've got that flag. What do I do with it? It was given to me as a present like years ago. I'm like, cool.

It's a great present. It's a really nice looking flag. Is it a full size? Yeah, full-size flag. Right. You don't know. I wear it as a cape, obviously. Yeah.

You're not an idiot. No, it's just folded in a drawer. I'm like, oh, because I mean, that's store, it's, I think it's been, it's used sometimes by, for maybe less nice reasons. But it's sort of like a symbol of the union movement still in Australia, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, totally.

So, yeah, trade unions. And anytime people are fighting for, like, labour rights, that flare comes out again to be like, hey. Remember the people. I'm a man of the people. I'm from the, obviously, you guys are the man to me, and I am the people. Yeah, we're the Hotham and La Trobe,

and you're the pit of Lola here. Yeah. I'm the one on name. I've got a mountain named after me. I'm Hoth. by the way. Nice. I'm the one

that illegally married my dead wife sister. Typical. I don't regret nothing. She's hot. She's really great. So this time the episode we,

in our Patreon, which is the supporters of the show who help keep it all running. Yeah, that's right. And if you would like to get involved at any time,

you're welcome to do so at do go onpod.com and you get a bonus episode, shoutouts, you get to vote for things like this. This could have been a different episode, maybe you people at home.

We're a, Patron, you could have maybe steered it. Especially if you're a landslide. Yeah. But one of the new rewards on the Sydney-Shineberg level of patron is you get to give a fact, quote or question, which we read out at the end of the episode, and it could be about anything. This week's fact quote or question is from Mark Rie. Mark Chopper Reid, as we go on.

Thanks, John. Thanks, we've met him a few times on the live chats. And they get to offer a fact quote or question, and they also get to offer a fact quote or question, and they also get to give themselves a title. And Mark has given himself the title of Refreshment Liaison Officer. Oh, love it. What's done, Mark. Mark, that's great.

But I'm feeling quite pumped. And where the hell are you? I need you, Mark. Matt needs you. I am. I'm dry. Dry ginger mail. And he's offered a fact this week.

And his fact is the shark in the jaws movie. was named Bruce. So named after Stephen Spielberg's lawyer. I've seen that shark at Universal Studios. Really? Oh, so it's a big physical... 1998. 98, baby.

So basically, you go on the Universal Studios, like, ride. Yes! And it goes around and it's all movie themed and you see, like, the house from Psycho Up and a Hill and all this stuff. And you go on a bit where you go along a bit of water, and then the music starts playing. And then a giant mechanical... Manicul, shark comes out, and when my dad lent over to take a photo of jaws,

his sunglasses fell off and landed in Bruce's mouth. So it was like the shark 80 sunglasses. And we never saw him again. And as an eight-year-old, that was so funny. Oh, I thought you were going to say scary. Traumatic. I got really scared on that ride at the part with Godzilla. Not Godzilla.

What's a big monkey? King Kong. Actually, an ape, not a monkey. That bit scared the shit at him. Really? Oh, no. It's a common thing people get wrong with the primates, getting monkeys confused with apes, which I talk about a lot on my new podcast, primates.

When's that coming out soon? It's coming out soon. I'm just waiting on Evan to get the music to me. I've recorded a few episodes, including one that you've been on. Jess is going to be on one soon. Jess should be on the King Kong one after that. No. No.

As punishment. Tripod have a song about King Kong, and the chorus is just, Get to the Far King Monkey. Because that Very disappointed Yeah Get to the fucking ape

Thank you Anyway It's a great ape Thank you Mark Chopper Thank you Mark Chopper for your Fact about Bruce That is cool So cool

So cool So cool Now another thing that we do With our patrons Is thank them at the end of the episode And then We do a little thing With their names

Or where they're from What are you thinking Jess Anything I was thinking of giving them an amount of gold that they would have found. Oh, okay. Right on.

Like a metric fuck ton could be one. Yes. Yep. Or we could do dollar amounts. Six yards. Or you could think of something else we could give them. Well, can I kick it off? Oh, sure.

Yeah, how much gold are they going to get? Let's do it. Yep. Hey, we were talking about this man earlier in the episode. from Camperdown in Victoria, Mr Connor Saunders. Connor! What are the chances that we thank you on this episode where you've suggested the topic,

so I really hope you haven't listened to all the way through Connor. Thank you so much for the suggestion and the support of the show. Someone mentioned you on Facebook this week saying, geez, that red-headed guy on the front row is really well lit in one of the live episodes. They weren't talking about you. Yeah, good question. I didn't qualify that.

Is that weird that I? assumed it was Connor or not me? Yeah, that is weird. You're not in the front row. Thank you. Well, technically, maybe some people view that the stage as the front row. Well, then they're thinking of us as one of them, and that is very, very wrong. Well, no, I feel like one of them.

Yeah, you would. Yeah, maybe they were trying to. Revolution. I'm a diva. Now, how much is you are? Hey. And, all right, you are not. Connor.

I'm going to say Connor, Connor's got a chuffle. He's got a chuffel. An entire chuff full. An entire chuff full of coal. Coal. Sorry, Connor. Wow. Gold.

Oh, gold coal. Gold coal. Coal gold? Cold gold. Maybe you paint it black to sort of smug it out. Rolling stone style. Thank you. I was going to, yeah.

You paint it black and chuck it up your chuff. And then when you go through customs, they go, they check and they go, don't worry, it's just coal. Just coal after chuff. No way, sir. On your pop. Carry on. No way, sir. Off you go.

welcome to the country Have a bloody good stay, mate Oh, I got really threatening at the end there Have a good stay Hope to see you again Where you're gonna be staying? Like, ah Sounds to be like Michael Cain's

Fallen on hard time Yeah Paul Barson We've all been there I'd also love to thank if I may Please From Thetford In the greatest of Britain's

Great Britain Oh Philip Greer Philip Greer What a great name And Thetford is a great sounding place too, just looking out where that is. Thetford.

Thetford. Thetford. Bet they do a great real ale. Oh, yes. In between Cambridge and Norwich, if you zoom out. So on the, towards the... Oh, only if you zoom out, though. East Coast.

I'm thinking... Yeah, between, um, Ireland and Germany, if you really, do that. It's funny because I don't understand geography. I'm guessing that's true. An empiric pintful of gold. Oh, wow. An empiric pint? Empiric pint.

That's the big one, right? That's the big one. That's a lot of gold Congratulations to Philip And thank you for your support Now I've got to ask you Matt I don't want to make a competition Between our listeners

But is that more or less than a chuff full Well it depends on the chuff But Connor is a big man He's a big guy And I assume he's in proportion Then he's got a big chuff Which I still don't fully know what it is Yeah

You'll figure it out one day Little buddy We'll show you It is it the It's the chuff Right Can I thank some people Yes please

I would like to thank. I meant Imperial. Did I say Empiric? Sorry, it doesn't matter. Imperial Pint. Oh, that's what I imagined too when you said it. I think you may have said empiric.

But I would like to thank from Agnes Banks in New South Wales, Noah Wright. Noah Wright. Agnes Banks. I don't know if I've heard of that. He's Googling again. Angus Banks. I've just got the match open. Agnes.

Agnes Banks. That's a place, not an elderly woman. Hello there. I'm there. I'm Agnes Banks. Would you like a toffee? All right. Yes, please.

All right, just one toffee each. Okay, thank you. Oh, Matthew, you can take a second one, you cheeky little bugger. Thank you, Mrs. Banks. On your way, then. Cheeky little chuff. Now, get off my garden and don't ever get back on it, understand. Sorry, Miss.

Sorry, Miss Banks. I've been sweeping so many chimneys lately. Thanks, Miss Banks. It's a lungful of call. I hope to see you again. again one day. Oh my God. What the fuck?

This took a real turn. Where's Agnes Banks? It's just... She's in her home just leave it be. She's just east of the Blue Mountains. Oh, lovely. Noah, Noah, Wright. How much gold did Noah Wright find?

Noah Wright. I mean, I've done them all so far. What's your day ago? An arc full. For that, I mean, you'll be way more generous. That's like a big boat. That's heaps. Noah.

Noah's arightful. Oh, I know her right. Noah's Ark full of gold. He decided to let the animals drown and instead stocked up on gold. Savvy. Yes, savvy business wise. Makes sense. He did destroy humanity and animal entity.

Animal anity. Flora and fauna. Thank you to Noah. Congratulations on your Ark. And I'd also like to thank from where is this, Tuncurry? That can't be right. Michelle Claire Michelle Claire

Tung curry exists Tung curry Surely it's not Tung curry That just sounds Maybe it's Kuntari No it's Tung curry Tung curry Tilly

But yeah but they're probably Surely they say it differently Tung Kri Tung Kri Yeah That makes more sense Tung curry It is

Michelle Michelle I reckon has done very well Michelle's done well A metric Tung curry Well A well full.

A well. And it was quite a deep well also. Wow, good. You need to stipulate that. Yeah. A very deep well. It's a well that they've concreted in and she's put one nugget on top of it. You know what they call wells, they call them nature's chuffs.

Yeah, that's true. They do. They do call them that. Yeah. So that's good that we've clarified. Thank you. That's a little fun fact, a little bonus fun fact at the end. there.

I like that a lot. Now, I would like to thank, if I may. Please. All the way from Woodbridge, Ontario. Ontario. In Canada. Which is just outside of Toronto. I would like to thank Kathleen Neves.

Kathleen Neves. Kay Neves. You make me weak at the Neves. Thank you so much, Kathleen. I mean, Sure. How much gold has she got? Kathleen Neves.

Kathleen Neves. I think Kathleen only got a couple of those little ones. What are those little ones called? Little Nuggies. Bolivial gold. Like a couple of specs. I only got a bit of that. She went panty and got a couple of specks.

I mean, she can have anything. No, I'm sorry to be realistic, Matt. You think they can all have arcfuls? No, yeah, Dave really. Well, no one really stole a lot of gold from everyone else. I'm a realist. Don't say she's unhappy. Don't oppose that.

I didn't say she didn't have a wonderful life after that. You know what? She met the love of her life. Really? Yep. Yeah, and his name is Noah Wright, and luckily he had a shitload of gold. She made him weak at the knees.

Even Noah didn't find that funny. I mean, it's not funny. And he's the love of her life. It's not funny. It's beautiful. Jess. If you're getting weak at the knees, you should see a doctor.

Well, you're going to pay him with specs of gold. She doesn't have enough. I think. Often, you know, this is a monkey paw sort of thing, isn't it? You don't, you wish for an arc full of gold, but that just fucks you up. Too much. Too much gold. Yeah, no, I just had a fantastic life.

Imagine the bush rangers that would be swarming around it. But like you wouldn't be able to trust any friendships beyond that. And if you're putting that up your chuff, obviously that's going to be painful. A couple of flecks. I don't even notice. Yeah. Flinks in the chuff. You wouldn't have a sore chuff.

I'll tell you that. Kathleen, in summary, thank you. Finally, I would like to thank from Manchester in New Hampshire. Have we ever thanked someone from New Hampshire in the US? I'm not sure. Far Eastern State. I would like to thank Benjamin R. Brisson. Been around for a while.

That's right. We've got a few tweets from Benjamin R. Brisson, who is very, very keen for us to do a report on Joseph Stalin. Ah, yes. Benjamin, we may get there one day. Stalin would be a great report. you're voting a lot so if it comes up in the hat I hope you do vote for it and just quietly

between you and me. Diehard is a Christmas movie despite the war we had on Twitter that time. How is that quietly between you and him when you just said it on the podcast? Which gets millions of downloads. I also... They had to invent new numbers. That's definitely a Christmas movie. I mean, they're at a

Christmas party. If it wasn't Christmas, then you wouldn't exist. I assumed he was being ironic when he argued that. Possibly. We should do it. Dave never assumes irony. I think that would be a fun vote the hat one time, maybe. Not fun. Fun is not the right word.

But like a dictator or a tyrant vote. Yes, maybe we can organise one of those coming up. That would be good. But thank you very much for your support, Benjamin Arborist. And I do appreciate it. And so does Justin Matt, and I think that you have one limo full of gold. Whoa. A limo as seen in the Christmas film Die Hard.

A little shit. Man. I'm just hearing them sleigh bells ring jing jingling. That's right. But thank you very much for your support all the way in New Hampshire. Hopefully we've got some other listeners in New Hampshire. Let us know if you're out there. Let us know if you're on.

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