Two In The Think Tank - 140 - The Eureka Stockade

Episode Date: June 27, 2018

The Gold Rush hit Victoria, Australia in 1851, and people quickly dropped everything and headed to the goldfields to try and strike it rich. But then the government started charging large gold digging... fees, and before long corruption became widespread. After the murder of one of their own, the miners had well and truly had enough. The only thing left to do... REBEL! Often referred to as the birth of democracy in Australia, this is the bloody story of the Eureka Rebellion and The Battle of The Eureka Stockade.Report begins at 13:13Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodWebsite : dogoonpod.com Support Dave's Gloveless Finger Palm Coolers Pozible Campaign: https://pozible.com/project/gloveless-finger-palm-coolersSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comReferences and further reading on Eureka:http://www.nma.gov.au/online_features/defining_moments/featured/eureka_stockadehttp://www.lancashireinfantrymuseum.org.uk/the-battle-of-the-eureka-stockade/http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/lalor-peter-3980https://www.britannica.com/event/Eureka-Stockadehttp://www.goldrushcolony.com.au/australian-gold-history-culture-info/australian-gold-rush-history-law-order/law-enforcement-colony/ghttp://www.kidcyber.com.au/gold-rush-in-australia/http://www.egold.net.au/biogs/EG00080b.htmhttp://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/exhibition/objectsthroughtime/1854-the-eureka-flag/index.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion#Political_legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Jess was getting out of hand with those things early on Jess. What, being adorable. Yeah, it was getting out of people with starting to talk talk saying it's distracting. That's right. Those levels of adorability are getting a bit much, but getting in the way of the fact. Yeah, sorry. I'll let the man speak. Oh, yeah. Fuckos. Oh, dear. I think she means you just I've never been referred to a man. I don't think she meant me. You know what made us speak to you. I want both of you to shut up and I want to just get
Starting point is 00:02:49 everything out of my brain. I got all right. Here's what I'm thinking. All right. For a fuck's a deal with butterflies. Today I saw a video of a butterfly that when it closes the wings it looks like a leaf. And then it opens the wings of the butterfly.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It's like I get that that's really handy for camouflage but what about in order when people like to stomp on leaves? You're fucked. Oh no. What about if it's a guy who likes to play leaf harmonica? Yeah and he picks you up. Your harmonica until you get free. Now you're involved in bush poetry or something. Is that what you wanted? Is that what you wanted butterfly? Yeah. Very confusing. Idiot. I've always thought of them as clean moths.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah. I can get into that. Clean moths. No dust. Is that what moths are dusty? They look dust. That's how they get gray. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's dust. There's some beautifully colorful moths out there, Dave. No, they're not. It's some beautifully colorful dust out there is what you meant. Yeah. Wow. Anything else on the chest of just. Ah, so many things.
Starting point is 00:03:52 But we also said we'd get into it. Hey, we should get on with the show. This show works in a way where we each do a report one week after the other or something like that, right? And then we start the report each week by asking a question. This week Dave's doing the report. So he's gonna ask a question now
Starting point is 00:04:10 that's gonna get us on topic. Jess and I do not know what the report is about. Dave hopefully does. Got some idea. Dave, can you tell me now what the report is about so that you and I know, it only Matt doesn't? All right, I'll stop the recording for five seconds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And my back, Jess, pretty interesting topic. Wow. Wait, I didn't even say, did you stop my brain as well? Yes. For five seconds. I've got a question. Yeah, you'll catch up. My question to both of you is,
Starting point is 00:04:38 what is arguably the most famous rebellion in Australia's history. I think I know this one, but I don't know anything about it. Is it the Rum Rebellion? It is not the Rum Rebellion. Is that an Australian thing? That is Australian, which is,
Starting point is 00:04:53 wow, Eureka. It is, yes, I've got it. Is it the Eureka stockade? It is the Eureka stockade. What is the Rum Rebellion? We can talk about it on another episode. That's why I added in arguably. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You said that. Wow. Jess, you already knew the answer to the title. Yeah, I knew that's why I didn't even guess. Because I didn't need to. You can't guess when you know. Yeah, it's not a guess. Oh, can we put that on a T-shirt?
Starting point is 00:05:17 You can't guess when you know. Yeah. I'd just go straight to Tadu. Fuck it. Straight to Tadu. Straight to Tadu. Can't guess when you know. You know. You know. I it. Alright. Straight to tattoo. Straight to tattoo. Next tattoo. Can't guess when you know, you know? You know. I think you know. Is that also on the shirt?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. A whole thing. No, no, no, no. Thank you, no. Come on. Ah, this is great. No, it is the Eureka Rebellion Aka, the Eureka stockade. I know, I know there's a flag and I know there was a stockade a stockade. I know nothing even though my family is from there Really from the Bellarat region. Yeah, I should know that So I was gonna ask because this is in in Australia This is a pretty famous topic a lot a lot of times in primary school early high school you do a project on this topic You guys didn't ever do that. No, I don't think so. Now this was suggested by Hannah
Starting point is 00:06:05 Dempsey from Perth, so thank you very much Hannah, and it was voted for by the Patreon listeners, and a few of them did comment saying, oh that's going to be a bit nostalgic. I did approach it. Yeah, they go. So there you go. It was also, sorry, interrupt. It was handwritten and suggested by Josh and Connor Saunders who visited us. I think they only have a handwritten entry. No, Nestor had a handwritten one as well. Nestor who cannot be Besta. He shan't be Besta.
Starting point is 00:06:35 When Matt Knight- White Besta. The match totally changes the meaning. When Matt Knight did a gig in Ballarat, ages ago. Yeah, like a year and a half. They came to the show and gave us a handwritten submission. Oh, that's really cool. I had no idea about that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. Also suggested by some local Ballaratians. Ballaratz. Local Ballaratz. Nester, Nester, the great suggestser, but not in this case, not relevant. Thank you for piping in then. I thought it would have been whilst as we've done an Aussie topic. but not in this case, not relevant. Thank you for piping in then. I thought it would have been whilst
Starting point is 00:07:06 as we've done an Aussie topic. So I put three Australian topics in the Patreon vote, and this was the one that was chosen. By a landslide. I don't think landslides were voting in this one. Jess was the Patrons. Ah. Thank you to Patreon subscriber 600.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Mr. landslide, your vote got it across the line 51% Wow wow yeah whoa what do you want to keep what put it on my turn stone whoa they want to keep Wow and then I'll put in brackets moments before he died. By a landslide. Whoa, comment. Behind that comment is a landslide. Space landslide. That's what comments are. Whoa, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah. When you think about it that way. I mean, everything's a landslide. In a way. Like you're a podcast landslide, Jess. Dave, you're a. Also a podcast landslide. Podcast landslide.
Starting point is 00:08:03 It's really hard. Anyway, you need a new stereotype. Okay. Give me one. The boy landslide. All right. And you're a B. I'm a B. Well, that was some grab a start of that.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Appreciate you going, boy. As opposed to other options. All right, let's start the report. So this is a home-grown topic also, pretty close to our Victorian heart, this one. So to start this story and set the scene, we have to talk about Australia in the late 1840s. Ah, what a time.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Ah, yeah. The 1840s. That's why I paused. You went, oh, and I was like, here we go. And you didn't do it, and then you did it. And now I feel great. Yeah, oh, and I was like, here we go, and you didn't do it, and then you did it, and now I feel great. Yeah, fucking gotcha. Well, prior to 1851, the colonial government
Starting point is 00:08:51 of New South Wales, which at the time included our state of Victoria. In a way, we're all New South Welshmen. Yeah. It was pretty like most of Australia was New South Wales for a while, think like all the like the East Coast. Yeah, I think early on it was Van. It was like Tasmania. New South Wales and maybe West Australia. Yeah, I think WA has always been there and little thing. Little thing.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, there are third of our country. Everything. In size. In size. And spirit. Yes. Correct. So this is a pride 1851 The colonial government had hushed up news whenever someone found gold believing if the news got out that it would reduce the workforce and De-stabilize the economy basically everyone would quit their jobs to go look for gold right but then the Californian gold rush hit and a lot of people living in Australia decided to travel over there to try and strike a match. Wow. So the government realized it's a mistake and started offering rewards for people who found gold here.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So in July 1851, the Victorian Gold Rush began. So not only do you find the gold? Yeah, surely. That's its bonus. Yeah. Like, so you can sell that for quite a bit of money. Yes, but I think a lot of the time you don't get to keep all of the gold Right if you want to take
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah, so like you sell it on you get part of the gold Right sort of like eBay eBay takes a little fee exactly Yeah, I've got to survive somehow. But they sell in their gold online on eBay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well there you go eBay dot gold rush Is it on eBay? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. eBay.goldrush.
Starting point is 00:10:25 We're like, man. That was so early. They could have had such simple websites, but they made them more complicated. Yeah. Someone got in there and just sort of parked on goldrush.com and this wouldn't. They're like, eBay. And the score. Goldrush.
Starting point is 00:10:40 69. 69. .com. That hot mouth. That was the official government address. Please email us if you fun gold. How shut up. So there were Australians who probably had gold in their backyard who went, I'm going to California. And then that word would have come through when they were arriving. Hey, there's a lot of gold down here. It was, yeah, you didn't
Starting point is 00:11:05 realize it, but your house was gold. Notice it was all shiny. Yeah, quite cold. Yeah. It wasn't actually quite cold. It was quite gold. I mean, I have some gold. I've gone to California. Keterforn, yeah. And it would be back then. It's not just a simple flight over. Is it? No. That was two flights. No, thank you. No plane could fly that far in 1850. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Fortunately, that all changed when they invented the gold plane, solid gold. Yeah. They flew like a plane of gold. So sorry, it's solid gold? Yes. Where did the people sit? Well, that was one of the many oversights. They rode it like a horse.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Everyone thought it was a horse. That seems like a terrible idea. Yeah, crashed into the ocean. And yeah, that's people still looking for it. The lost city of it, plain to us. Well, now it's a gold submarine. That's how they... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 The marketing spin. Sure. You understand. Oh, I get it. So July 1851, the Victorian gold rush began. And this is the setting for today's report. People began to find lots and lots of gold in Australia. For a number of years, the gold output from Victoria alone, second only to California. And if you exclude California,
Starting point is 00:12:19 just our state alone had a greater output than any other country in the world. Wow. So every other country in the world. Wow. So good on us. Every other stuff in the country, California and Victoria. Why? The boat's having more gold. Because we just had a lot of gold. Give it a hell. Just naturally occurring.
Starting point is 00:12:34 How'd it get there? Space. It's gold. What's gold? Lanes glides. How's it happen? Why do we have it? Dreams.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Oh. More people. It's trying to make a understand that I don't we have it dreams? More people I'm gonna make a understand that I don't know I didn't look that bit up You didn't look up what's gold What is that? But don't find that interesting Shall I report that just in one little and Victoria's not that big one little corner of A of a country we got heaps of gold.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Do you think that's cool? I don't know. I mean, it's just a made up thing. We've decided it's valuable. It's just a weird rock, right? This is just the first time that I've ever got excited about the origins of something. And you two are like, so.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I just don't, I mean, I suddenly understand what it's like to deal with me and I'm so sorry I will ask more questions in the future I just think that's fascinating sorry no I yeah it is never really thought about it as hard as you well that's because on the smartest one in the other thinker you got those little grey cells working yeah love those little grey cells so? Yeah, the lovelest little gray cells. So news spread about the riches that could be made and more and more people traveled to Victoria to try their luck.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And also it's just a great tourist destination. Totally. Got lots of cafes. I don't know if it's Valorant, but no Victoria. Oh, Victoria. Bars. Yeah, there's nowhere else in the world.
Starting point is 00:14:05 That's the cafes and bars. The Melbourne Comedy Festival. Yeah. How many others? How many others are there? Yeah, you're not victorious. You were born and raised to young men. It's a fun place.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It's a, I don't like the sound of that tone in fine. It's a golden place. Thank you, David. The garden state. My next sentence here is, it really put Australia, Victoria and Melbourne on the map. Yeah, like our city scene, our bars. Yes. Cafe, bushwalk. Why should we go to Melbourne, our city scene?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Okay. Well, I can get to Melbourne then you'll understand. Well, this is how much it really exploded. This is the population growth of non-indigenous Australians before and during the Gold Rush. So in 1835, none. 1840, 10,000. 1851, when this all kicks off, 29,000, three years later, 1854, 123,000. Then by 1960, Victoria's population had hit 540,000 people. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:09 So it really gone up. 1960. 1860. 1860. You said no. You did say 1960. Oh, did I? So sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's a real track. Oh, I got me. I was about to call it. I was about to like go hard and be like, you fucking idiot. But that sorry was so cute. Oh, sorry. Whoopsies. So people are coming to Victoria in 1860.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Nice. Got it right. Sailors and captains deserted ships, people in city official type jobs were written here, gave up their relatively cushy lives and picked up pans and shovels in the hopes of striking at rich. These hopefuls were called diggers, and not all of them got rich, but many stayed and this transformed Australia. Gold diggers.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yes. It all makes sense now. People came in from all over the world, particularly from China, this period. This had all kicked off, this Victorian gold rush, when a man named Thomas Hizcock. Very good. He was in charge of Hizcock. He discovered, discovered. For the shovel, I imagine, gold in Bun-A-N-Yong, about 11 kilometers from the town of Ballarat.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That's where my uncle lives. Bun and Young. Mount Bun and Young. Oh. Bun and Young. Yeah. Cool. Right near Ballarat in August 1851.
Starting point is 00:16:35 This sparked huge interest in the area and kicked off the Victorian gold rush. I hadn't thought about this before, but at the start of the gold rush, there was no roads to the gold fields and no shops or houses there. So people had to carry everything they needed through the bush. They were, they're travelled by horse or by walking with wheelbarrows loaded with their positions. So they were really desperate to make it work. Wow. You got to travel a long way with a wheelbarrows to get there. Have you seen the Australian film The Nugget? No, that's with Dave O'Neill. Dave O'Neill, Eric Banner? Yep, Stephen Curry.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And now, I still like to think about, now that's what we're talking about, but I can't remember how it ends. And that's killing me. But it's about a big gold nugget? Yeah, they find gold. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. That's real. That was worth me jumping in there. That's a real parable.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'll learn a lot. What would you say is the moral of that story? It's similar in so many ways. It really is. In that they found gold. I've got a whole section on the nugget at the end of the report. Do you? Absolutely not. But if you'd like, I can try and make up a fun fact at the end. Thank you. I would like that, yes. I would like that. Thank you. Is there something called, is there the welcome stranger anything to do with anything?
Starting point is 00:17:50 The welcome stranger, that's the largest gold nugget ever found anywhere. Right. And it's also a Poke's venue in the city. Hmm. Yeah, there you go. They've taken that. I think it was found in New South Wales and... Ah, because I get everything cool. But I mean, this was a Victoria Victoria. I just lied.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Found it. One of ours. California. Molliergull Victoria. Oh, there you go. About nine miles west of Denolli. And it was absolutely massive, but it was a bit later than this.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It was found in 1869. All right. All right. As of 2018, it would have been worth $3.8 million if you found this nugget today, which no one has since. So anyway, people are desperate to make a work. They're wheelborrowing through the bush just to get to these gold sites. And at first it was pretty great because gold was found in rivers or on the surface,
Starting point is 00:18:42 near the surface of the dirt. You didn't have to dig very far, or basically it's referred to as alluvial gold. Alluvial. So it's just in that, most of this is just in the water and you can just use a little pan to extract it. You just got to find it amongst the other grains of rock and dirt there. And it's just on the surface. Anyone can find it.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But thousands of people were panning and as this surface gold ran out, gold stickers were forced to look further underground. This involved digging deeper mines and was much, much, much more dangerous. Much, much, much more dangerous. No, no, much, much more dangerous. Oh, I'm sorry, I added a much. Thank you. I will not be taking it. Oh, you're singing Macho Man. I was singing it. Yeah, Matt was doing a little group. Did a little group. Macho, Macho Man.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I was singing the shake, shake, shake, Joana. Sonora. Sonora. I was, well, I was singing gibberish. Sure. Well, I ended up having nothing to do with anything. But it was, I was singing it.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I was singing the words. Much. Much, much, much, much, manya-che, much, shimo-na-ma. Hey, are you asked? Yeah, hey, that's on us. It was a mouse on a little wheel. That's my brain. My little grey cells, just mice.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, that'll be firing out. Life on the Goldfields, I want to tell you about it. It was anything but easy. Life on the Goldfields. It ain't easy. Great, not easy. The space where someone was digging was called a claim. To keep their claim, a person had to work on it every day
Starting point is 00:20:18 except Sunday. The Lord's Day. Yeah, that's nice. You've got to have a day off. If no one was working a claim, or you took took a day off that wasn't Sunday, someone else could jump in and take it. This was called claim jumping and fights often broke out between people. I imagine if you are a claim jumper, you're a bit of a low dog.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Definitely. And like, I got up early then you. You weren't here by 5am. So now it's mine. I imagine that kind of stuff was happening. Wow. What of imagination, great. What point would you stop? Like, let's say you're just finding like little little nuggets and they're still worth a bit of money, but like, you know, not enough to like make you live like a king forever. So at what point dole wise would you stop? You'd go, I've got enough for this amount of money.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I'm done. For forever? I think it depends. I think the whole gold mining thing is stupid. And I think it's, your maize will be buying a lot of tickets. Was your question about gold mining? I missed the start. Yeah, so it was.
Starting point is 00:21:22 At what point would you cut your losses? I would cut them before I started. I would know I would have stayed in town and picked up one of the cushy jobs that someone left. Honestly, they would have been desperate to have you. Yeah. That would have been so good. I was like, yeah, I'll do it. Just use that double of a pay. Yeah, leverage yourself out to be the CEO of like the biggest bank or something. Yeah, that's what I would have done. Fuck, that is good. Well done. Because it's really hard life.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They lived in tents at first, but little makeshift villages began to pop up. Food and supplies had to be brought in. Again, without proper roads, probably with a wheelbarrow. So stuff's very, very expensive because it's all imported. Finally, many of the people who got rich with the people who set up the shops
Starting point is 00:22:02 and sold stuff to the people, hoping to strike it rich. Right, okay. So people would set up the shops and sold stuff to the people hoping to strike it rich. Right, okay. So people would set up pubs, no pubs or just like grocery style shops, or you know, often to take your mail and that kind of thing. And those people started making a killing off the people who were gambling everything. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:18 The pubs are really popular. I've written here that I imagine that Matt would go all the way from the city to find gold, then end up spending the day at the pub instead. That sounds fun. I mean, someone's going to run that pub. Yes. And I don't know if you just heard that, Matt, but those people were getting really rich. I did not hear that part. You weren't even... I am... Dave, please. That was our little secret.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Sorry, I imagine you were Googling the nugget facts. Save me. We, but again, I just, surely the pubs in town are still better. Why are you going out of these shitty, but imagine how shitty those pubs would be. Oh, mostly they're building them out of bark and like a tense at first and then making sort of more, makes you suffer more. Yeah, and they'd be getting muddy water and they'd let mold grow in it. And they go, here's another sweet brew.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Oh, it's bad. And it wasn't an easy journey to the Goldfields with many of the people who had come from overseas spending seven or eight months cramped on ships just to get to the country. And for the people living in the city that were traveling to or from the Goldfields, they were often held up by bush rangers on the way there. So you're like, I've found a $100,000 nugget. I've just got to go take it back to my family. Bush ranger.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Duh. That would be no good. And when you're stealing cash from someone, like if you just had heaps of cash on you, you could have a little bit, you'd separate it. So they might get some of it, but not all of it. So we're with a gold nugget. Oh, you got to shove it up your chuff. That's the only option. What's your chuff again? The chuff. Your chuff.
Starting point is 00:23:51 My chuff. Yeah. We've all got one. What's wrong with you? No, I mean, it's right. Oh, your chuff. Oh, no, you're not good. You're not good. Gotcha. Dang. They're not good banks. Stop. It's what they call it. It's not what they call it. It's not what they call it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks.
Starting point is 00:24:18 They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. They're not good banks. Gotta make it a positive, the nugget bank. You make it back up to the bank and you have to say, I'd like to make it a positive.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm gonna need a few minutes. I'm good for a sweat. It's a soft metal, isn't it? Oh yeah, I mean, when hot enough, it's not liquid at room temperature. You've got to probably chuff's. Up your chuff means like chimney rot, chimney rot. Yeah, chuff's a lot of chuff.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, chuff's a lot of chuff's. They are very warm chuff's. Now, if you did make it to the morning sites, diets were very poor. Some people died of dysentery and typhoid from the lack of cleanliness and lack of sewage. But remember, you're there to strike at rich. Yeah. It's worth it.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But I'm not mad. It sounds horrible, but I am a dreamer. I'm a dreamer. So you take it. But I'm not very good in conditions where... You don't have room service. Anything less than business class. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, there it is. I need the luxury of an empty trophy. No, I'm not anything. If people are making money, so some people are making money, especially when you first get there because if you're one of the first people there, gold is ridiculously easy to find in comparison to, you know, right now if you're going to get back your art, you don't expect to find it. But at the time, you could be expected to see something, you know, it's not a ridiculous stream. See Zangai shouldn't dig up my backyard.
Starting point is 00:25:46 No, I'm not sure. Just in case. Never know. Yeah, well, I mean, he's not talking about your town. This is a whole different place. I don't know if there's been a gold rush in your neck of the woods. That was found, your gold, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Excellent. Well, like anything, if people are making money, the government are going to ask for a cut of the pie. Yeah, they do that, do they? Why are there pies there? Gold pies. Gold and pie. Under there was that much gold, they just didn't know what to do with it. Gold and plain, gold and pie.
Starting point is 00:26:15 People are going crazy. Gold and tickets. Wow. There's Willy Wonka in, you know? Yeah. Bloody hell. Yeah, some questions. What do. It's like, who's who was? Tom Quis. What do you like?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh, I'm a disease-like. Gold. Cold. Yeah, he's kind of, he's like, cold. It's like, cold. Spreading joy. Just four days after Thomas Hisscock's discovery of gold, his a guy to keep this whole thing off, that was just four days after
Starting point is 00:26:39 was published by the Jolong advertiser. I did work experience there. Oh my goodness. So many connections. Many, many years later to be honest. Just a few years ago to yeah, much closer to our time than to theirs. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah But just four days after that was published in everyones. Wonder if it was the same editor. He was really lovely. Was he really old? No? Okay But just four days after it was published in Jess's
Starting point is 00:27:06 future newspaper, Lieutenant Governor Charles Lattrobe, proclaimed in the government gazette, crown rights for all mining proceeds. So, you know, that's them claiming their stake. And a license fee of 30 shillings per month effective from the 1st of September 1851. And a license fee is just for the right to have a crack and go and dig, you have to pay a fee. 30 shillings a month, I wonder how much that would be. Would that be a lot at the time? From what I've read, it's not a ridiculous amount,
Starting point is 00:27:41 but for people, if you find nothing, it's a lot. Yeah, gotcha. It's a big chunk of zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, cool. Side note, Jess, I don't know if you remember, but Charles Lattrobe is the guy that Josh Earl from Don't You Know Who I Am spoke about when we were on his pod a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:27:56 He told us that when Lattrobe's wife died, he then quickly married her sister. Do you remember he said that? So Josh was right, and I just looked into this and this is true and apparently it was illegal at the time because marrying your wife's sister was considered incest. Until 1907 when an active parliament in the UK called the deceased wife's sister marriage act of 1907. Holy shit. Was introduced and began allowing a man to marry his dead wife's sister which had previously been forbidden and also a wife could to marry his dead wife, sister, which had previously been forbidden. And also a wife could now marry her dead husband's brother. Okay, I think because I was like, that is a weird, least, specific.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, but can you imagine the guy like this campaigning for that? Yeah. To put that in a still alive context. That's a long time before women got the vote in Australia and so long before indigenous Australians got the vote or Australia and so long before Indigenous Australians got the vote or even allowed to be citizens. We had priorities in order. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? But let us marry. Obviously, top of the list. Yeah, yeah. I want to marry my dead wife's hot sister. It should be the dead wife hot sister. It does seem strange, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Sorry, we were just thinking maybe we could treat women and Indigenous Australians as humans. Yeah, we'll get to it. Have you seen my wife's sister? I need to marry that. Your wife is still very much alive. Yeah, but you won't always be. Yeah, an air and a spare, am I right? Oh, what? An air and a lot. Yeah, but you won't always be. Yeah, and Aaron is spare, am I right?
Starting point is 00:29:25 All right. Oh, what? And Aaron is spare. I've never heard that. What does that mean? It's what people refer to when royalty have two children. Oh, Aaron is spare. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, so I mean, it's just expanded to the second. I'm the first of three spares. Well, you're the first boy. Is that is that still, does that still matter in the British? Then no, not anymore. No, not since I'm printed Charlotte was born. Oh, sick. Good on them. So, but she's still certainly the spirit. Oh, she's the spirit for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Where you would have been here. Right. Wait, what is, ah, doesn't matter. But we shall. Okay. George is a little sister. William and Kate's right since she was born. Yes, it doesn't matter. But we'll show it. Okay. George's little sister. William and Kate's Charlotte. Since she was born, it's changed. Yeah. Since she was born and they knew it wasn't going to be relevant.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah. Cool. No, but it is relevant because I had the new son, Louis, and he would have gone up the chain. Yeah, I mean, he had a head of Charlotte. Right. But now she would still take it first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:25 God, sorry. That's, I forget you guys are Monos. Yeah, we're Monos. Mono Brows, Mono Grans, Monopoly. Mononyms, when people are referred to as just one name, for example, Prince or Dave. Or... Yeah, I'd love example, Prince. Or Dave. Or. Yeah, I'd love it, but I was Dave. People said that and they knew who you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:50 What about Bob? Dave and Melbourne comedy, yeah, we know Dave. Dave, sure, Prince. Bob. Bob actually has a chance. I can't. A lot. Bob has a chance.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Actually, you could be. You're a chance. Steven, you could be a good cheeser for Steven. No, that's taken by that little dog. Oh, wait, so I get you two confused. Well, let him have that fucking death Donald. That's a demon. That's fucking dog.
Starting point is 00:31:15 He liked that dog so much. No, I really like dogs, but that one. I'm really sick of all your cat. Something around him. What does that make you? Dave, still sorry, I guess I'm doing it completely. Dave, right, yep. Dave, try to tell us he's a cat.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm not sure. I'm crying out for help. Yeah. Pairing out for help. Get that man a saucer of milk. Oh, it's a cafe today. And the toilets had two toilets, and one had like a rooster on it. Cox, I guess. But then the women's ones had a cat. Oh, so it is Cox and Pussy. It took me a really long time to get it. Like I was like, why am I going into the right one?
Starting point is 00:32:09 And then I was like, oh, pussy. Oh, that feels like a gross bar, sort of. Yeah, but it was like quite a lovely cafe in Richmond. So quirky. I was like, oh, I don't want it, but I do need to weave. Anyway, get this man a saucer of milk. Anyway, so that was just my little side note on Charles Lattrope. Yeah. And that was our little side note.
Starting point is 00:32:35 On my little side note. Oh boy. Oh boy. Anyway, Lattrope introduced these fees. That's it. Such a big name here Lutrope as well. Oh yeah, Lutrope Valley, Maldial universities, I attended one.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Just one. I miss Suey, just quick, very quickly. He's the governor. He's the governor at the time. Okay. Did he go on to become a prime minister or anything? No. No, we did not.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But yeah, just to, so he's big in Victoria because he was an early government minister. I assume all these old dudes are bad people as well on some level. Certainly by today's standards. Is that fair in this guy's case? Well, I mean, in the stockade, people are often, and I'm all let you see who you wanted side with, often side with the working class diggers, the miners.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And he's basically on the other side. Gotcha. I'm gonna side with the Richies. All right, you and Lattro. Yeah, some all about cash. Yeah, and marrying dead sisters. Yeah. Yeah. No, that Le Trobe introduced these fees for two reasons, the gold license fees. The first is the fast growing population had cost the government a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:33:55 After all, they had to supply services for all these people. So he hoped to raise revenue with the licenses. Services such as many pennies. Yes, optional dental., dental, etc. Yes, free salt, free salt. Oh my God. Valle parking. Yeah, everywhere. Yeah, I mean, he needed cash.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Basically everyone had a chauffeur. Yeah, headed himself into a corner here. Yeah, I don't know what A.N. just said that's all part of the, it's all part of the Victorian service. Yeah, sorry about into a corner here. Yeah, I don't know what Ane just said. That's all part of the Victorian service. Yeah, sorry about that, yeah. Well, there was a time at some point where apparently Melbourne was like the richest city in the world, very brief time. I think it was around this period because of the culture.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I'm not a particular gold, yeah, yeah. And it was just flush with cash. But because the population grew so quickly, the sewage systems and stuff went up to scratch and it started to stink and apparently then started getting the nickname Smelbin. Good fun, good fun little. That is good stuff. Possibly fact there. Yeah, no, we've, I feel. I remember on the Birkenwils, you're saying. Maybe, maybe that's where I learned it when I said it.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Well, that's good that you retained something from an episode so long ago, because I already don't remember last week's episode. And I did it. Jim Belushi. Well, you did post about it this week. No. Hey, we got away with that. No one said anything.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Oh, I just woken up. Anyway, last week's episode is about John Belushi, which Jess spoke about for a bat in our half, and then posted this week's episode's Jim Belushi. It's because I... We talked about it. Well, because the episode's going live at like one, and I woke up at about quarter past one after doing radio till six in the morning. Oh, right, man.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Oh, I'm sorry. Triple J national radio. So I was a little bit delirious and sleepy still. So... Absolutely fair enough. No, it's not, it's no excuse. That meant... Max, Matt caught it so fast and fixed it for me.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I could, but yeah, I was expecting... Because there were comments, but all the comments were positive. And I'll come and wait, I'll like, really? I mean... Oh. Kelly Sue fans fans fair enough. Anyway, let's try. Let's give it just a time to breathe.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Let's try the second reason for having these gold fees. He also hope the fees would stop people from fleeing the cities to try and strike at rich. The gold rush had been a huge strain on the workforce. So the government are struggling to fill jobs basically because everyone's left to go get rich. Good time to be around. Good time to want a cushy job in local government. Only you probably, they wouldn't be cushy job in local government. Only you probably, they wouldn't be cushy because you'd be run off your fake. Yeah, you'd be the one person in that department.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You're the serious person. That's why it smells so bad. Oh, she... Because it's Matt doing a whole city. Oh, all right, great. Smelly man. That's what they called him. You were alive during this period, am I right?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yes. And you were smell lot during this period, am I right? Yes. And you were smelly during this period, right? Yes. I hadn't invented showers yet, I don't think. The stench. They hadn't invented men body wash and I will not use any sort of floral body wash. It needs to be in a black container or I don't go for it. It's got to be suitable for my body, my face and my head, my hair. Do it all. Body wash. I hate when you go into a hotel and they've just got one for everything.
Starting point is 00:37:34 No, that's gross. No. Yeah, that's gross. There is a shower gel in my shower that claims to do all through, right? Which is just weird. You need a conditioner, please. Am I right, Matt? Oh, sure. Obviously you need a condition.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yes. But you do an old body shampoo and then you do an old body condition. You can't. And then a condition. And a can-dution. That's the attitude So the fees are about 30 shillings a month you asked before if it was a lot I've got here regardless of your point I asked before I was thinking that I'm like no one can hear that he's pointing at me so it's fine. I won't mention it I know no no no I'll bring it up Matt, you asked before if it was a lot per month, and I'm going to tell Jess that
Starting point is 00:38:27 I don't tell Jess, she doesn't give a shit. Tell me. Well Matt, for the average minor, it was a lot. For the average minor, it was quite a lot, and it only got harder to pay when the surface gold, this alluvial stuff began to run out. So this is according to the National Museum of Australia in 1852, pretty early on 35,000 miners were in Victoria in the Victorian Goldfields and they were producing about five ounces of gold per head Not bad. Wow. By 1854 just two years later
Starting point is 00:39:01 The population had almost tripled while production had decreased to just one and a half ounces per head So there's a lot less to go around now. Yeah, and more people. Yes, it's so it's hard. Getting harder to make a living in these licenses became quite a point of contention because everyone's paying for them, but not everyone's finding gold. Yeah. And if somebody was on like a real hot streak of finding gold, you can imagine that everybody else would just be hazing. Oh, you just hate them wouldn't you? Wouldn't you hate them? Well, the worst.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. Worse Well, worst. Yeah. Worst of the worst. Our troopers that were referred to as traps. Up come the troopers, one, two, three. Next line. Man, that was a little bit derivative. And they came and they watched and they waited for the Willie Whirl. Who's gonna come over here there now? Everybody sing, well
Starting point is 00:39:52 sing Matilda. I'm loving that some overseas jolly jolly drumming. Aussie culture. This is what we're taught. We're a very young age. We all know those songs. I haven't heard that in a long time, but that was a song I used to hear all the time. Was that not a mischmash of many songs? You tell me. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I think it was a mischmash of... A mischmash. It was a mischmash of... Merry Christmas, mischmash, misch. I think it's... I think you were looking for the word remake. So what did you say, trooper? Troopers refer to as traps, because they're not
Starting point is 00:40:29 liked by the diggers. And they're copspaces. Yeah, so they conducted searches for diggers licenses on the gold fields. And they'd send out men to track down those that hadn't paid. So the Pope, getting in there, enforcing the trope's laws, making people cough up cash that they often don't have.
Starting point is 00:40:45 There was widespread police corruption at all levels of enforcement as well. The miners claimed the police were extorting money, accepting bribes and imprisoning people without any due process. The DIGAs could also be forced by the Gold Commission Police to relocate without compensation. So you've worked on a site for a long time, hoping that any day now you find a nugget of gold and then out of nowhere they could just force you to move on for no reason. Right. Just kick you off. And obviously people hate that. There was obvious mellus between diggers and officials and the police and by 1854, in the month of May, Governor Charles Lattrobe resigned in despair at the quote, atmosphere of insurrection in the gold fields. Insurrection.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yes, he, um, that means like can't get a bone off. It's going in inside. Right. Oh my God. And I imagine if that was the atmosphere doing that. Oh my God. Any, any dicks. Why it's bread, any dicks, widespread, like, because of the,
Starting point is 00:41:44 any dicks. Why it's bread any dicks. Why it's bread it's like choddy choddy because of the atmosphere. Wow. The air was causing it. I did not know that about the urethus. I did do know what's causing it. Yes. It's the air. And then he was like, I've got to go I quit. And the spare or. No, that's why you have a spare. Okay. Keep them in a different an oxygen proof chamber You open the chamber they've they've suffocated years ago, but you thought you'd save them, but you didn't I think the systems I used to have is I know could have just thought that through but the technology is really moved so far James I'll come back when I need you and we want to put you in this oxygen-free chamber. Goodbye. James, we need you.
Starting point is 00:42:26 James? Oh dear. Oh dear. I should have had a third spare. A second spare. No, a third spare. I had two inside the oxygen-proof chamber. James one and James two. I have no longer have a James. one in James 2. I have no long average. So Charles LeTribus, suddenly quit. He had to wait for the new governor to arrive. Another famous name is Victoria, replaced him. Oh, Ian, McKellen.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Wow. Gumbelgaw. Gumbelgaw. Gumbelgaw. Gumbelgaw. I'm trying again. Each time I would copy right over there. I'm trying again. He's talking about copyright over there.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Oh, Gumblegaw's here. No, I shall not go. Is he Gumbleg, Dumbledore Gandalf. Gandalf. Gandalf. But both together, he's Gumblegaw. Gumblegaw. That's great.
Starting point is 00:43:20 The form of supreme wizard being. They're basically the same character, right? I look bearded, guys. I'm going to tend to say yes. Be're basically the same character, right? I look bearded, guys. I'm going to tend to say yes. Beards all the same to me. So we'll sit. Oh, sir. Charles Darwin.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yes. What? No, right? He's writing on a turtle. Charles. They named him Mountain, after him. Oh, Danny Young Ranges. Charles Blue Mountains.
Starting point is 00:43:44 No Victorian Mountains. Charles Coseosco. Charles Blue Mountains. No Victorian Mountains. Charles Cossi Osco. Charles Buller. Charles Buffalo. Charles Hotham. Charles Hotham. It was so Charles Hotham replaced him.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Oh, so mad you got it. I mean, I did have all the guesses though. Super hot. Yeah, typical. Yeah. So, I don't know Charles Hotham. So, Charles Hotham arrived. He found the colonies, finances in chaos.
Starting point is 00:44:12 The deficit for the year was 2 million pounds and revenues were falling sharply. And back then, 2 million pounds is like all the money in the world. Wow, that can't be. Look, so there was no money left. It's all the money that we've loved and set for £1. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:30 There's £1 going around out there, feeding everyone. It's very, it's very dangerous to do it. Oh no. Oh dear. According to an article by the Lancaster Infantry Museum that I read, as many as half of the diggers didn't pay for their license fees, people are evading at all costs. So, Hotham chose to take on the minors and collect the money that the colony badly needed. This meant more police raids and the divide between the so-called law and the diggers became even greater. The so-called law, I know which side Dave's
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Starting point is 00:45:33 That's it. Let's build a stock out of it. That's it. This is bullshit. This stew ox. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. That was right. It was a really bad back.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Haha. It got me so bad. This juice ox. It was all grumpy teenagers. Aww, I hate you. I hate you so much, Hotham. I want to go live with dad. You're not even my real dad, Hotham.
Starting point is 00:46:10 The trope was my real dad and he's gone. Shacked out with his wife's sister. She's not even my real mom. She's my auntie. Now she's my stepmom. It's very confusing. It's really confusing. It sucks. But there's one incident that's going to tip them over the edge and that incident came
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Starting point is 00:48:05 Sorry, James, Scotchie. Scoby. Scoby. It's done a wee scoby. James Scoby went to the Bentley's hotel. To have a drink with a friend, Peter Martin. No big deal, just having a drink with a friend. Maybe there was a big deal,
Starting point is 00:48:20 because when they got to the pub, the place was shut. And Martin claims a hand smashed through a window and hit James Scoby. Okay, that is odd. It's also been said that the piano you play top. Well, a good and before. No, it's also been said that Scoby tried to break into the closed pub.
Starting point is 00:48:43 To me, that makes more sense. Rather than someone punching through a window to punch you, why would they do that? The horse have been said that Scoby tried to break into the closed pub. To me, that makes more sense. That makes more sense. Rather than someone punching through a window to punch you, why would they do that? Just come outside and punch me. That's pretty badass if that is a little bit. It's so good. Yeah, that's cool. Or super coward punch.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I'm not sure which. Through a window. Either way, a scuffle broke out between Scoby, his mate, and the people inside the pub. And Scoby tried to fight back, but his friend Martin dragged him away. The pub owner, James Bentley and his staff thinking that Scoby had smashed the window, which he may have done, tried to and tried to break into their pub, they followed the men and attacked them. Scoby was hit with what Martin described as something resembling an axe.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Possibly an axe. Scoby died of his injuries. I'm so confused. Wait, so either he was in the pub. No, so he joined the pub. Oh, it was close. So either he tried to break in and smash the window or someone smashed the window to punch him through the pub through the pub and he was walking. That's he's made says. It sounds a little far-fetched. It sounds a little far-fetched. But basically, a scuffle breakout Scoby was murdered. An inquest into his death was held that same afternoon. Scuffle, people don't die in scuffles.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah. That's not a scuffle. That's a brawl. That's a brawl, Dave. A really big scuffle breakout. Really big. Dave, say brawl. It's notwl. That's a brawl, Dave. A really big scuffle breaker. Really big. Dave, say brawl. It's not big enough to be a brawl, Jess. It's a legal definition.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Wow, he's good. It's a big, he's by the book our day. Yeah, thank you. Well, something that wasn't by the book was the inquest that they held that day. They did it. Five. inquest to the stars. Mother, thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Oh, okay. The inquest to the stars about the inquests, James Bentley, the pub owner, he was the one that was accused of killing Scobby. He denied taking part in the death despite the evidence against him. The evidence was that people witnessed him yelling, die, die! And my axe to your face. The local miners. Ghiblets. Ghiblets. My favorite character.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Him and dumb gummoggle. Gummoggle. So he got off. And then he was released. He bloody loves it. Bloody loves a broken glass window punched at the face. Mordo. No, the local miners felt the justice had not been served and were frustrated with what But he loves a broken glass window punched at the face, and made no. No, the local miners felt the justice had not been served and were frustrated with what
Starting point is 00:51:08 they saw as a dodgy decision made against one of their own. One of the court members was a police magistrate, well known to have taken bribes from Bentley, the guy accused of murder. How very interesting. The diggers came together and began to protest this miscarriage of justice. The anger came to a head when 10 days after Scobie's death, a group of 5 to 10,000 men and women gathered together to discuss the case. That is a big discrepancy.
Starting point is 00:51:34 That's also very difficult for 5,000 or 10,000 people to discuss anything. Good point. Oh my God, imagine being in that group chat. Hey guys, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's listen to what Jess has to say. Okay, hey, you ate that, let's go over the back. Come on. A small group decided to take action into their own hands
Starting point is 00:51:53 and they burnt the Bentley hotel to the ground. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. So they burnt the pub, the guy, he was accused of murder and got off, he owned the pub. Some of the arsonists were arrested for their crimes and sent to six months in jail.
Starting point is 00:52:08 A few days went past and a new witness came forward that implicated the pub owner in the murder and he was eventually found guilty of manslaughter and sent to three years hard labour. I did not know any of this. Hard labour, three years of hard labour for manslaughter. That's interesting. I did not know any of this. Huh. Really? Hard labor. Three years of hard labor for Mancetta. That's interesting. This event is seen as pivotable, pivotable,
Starting point is 00:52:33 and pivotal in the lead up to the culmination of this story. This was the, Oh, God, we haven't got to the story yet. Just this is the end. Pivotal in the culmination of the preamble. Now, this was the first major time the Diggas had come together in such numbers and rebelled against authority. I think that they were just starting to see the power that the people United has.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Power to the people. That's right. Over the next weeks, the miners met an elected leaders who approached the new Victorian governor, Charles Hotham. They demanded the release of the men who burnt down Bentley's hotel and cheaper miners' licenses. But the governor, being a bit of a wanker, took offence to having demands made of him and dismissed their grievances.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Get out of my chambers, I'm trying to have a bath! Oh, was he having a bath? He didn't mention that, Dave. He was having a bath. In blood of the miners, the common man. Was he some sort of a vampire governor? I don't bathe in it. They drink it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh, it's arguably worse. You need a lot less to drink than to bathe in. Good point. I mean, when average person is about six ladies, you feel under 200 liter bath. Oh my God. Yeah. I killed a lot of people. Just for a bath. So I was a bit of a wanker, but sensing that these people should be completely ignored. He then dispatched 150 British soldiers from the 40th regiment of foot to To reinforce the police and soldiers already stationed there just in case shit started to get real he sent in some reinforcements. Oh dear. And on the way over to reinforce their colleagues it did get real Jess.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Uh oh. It did. Spaghetti. An army baggage cart was stopped by armed, I imagine it was that was stopped. Oh. By armed diggers, a soldier was badly beaten and a drummer boy was shot in the leg. Oh my god Not the drum. He's the most innocent of all boy. I wrap a pump. Um, hopefully yeah, especially I mean leg at first. Oh my god. I was in his leg. He can still drum but
Starting point is 00:54:35 Drummer boys often had those symbols between their knees Oh So that I mean hopefully he's not one of them because that I mean you can't do any of the crashes Well, no, I'm thinking of one man bands. Yeah, he was not a one man band. He was a one-man drummer boy Okay, thank god Elsewhere diggers attacked mounted policemen with clubs and stones so violence is starting to take place here Sensing a change in atmosphere that diggers held another mass meeting on November the 29th at bakery hill As I am McDonald's at Bakery Hill? Isn't that beautiful. They met in the McDonald's car park of Bakery Hill. Pete Jones in the room next to us currently
Starting point is 00:55:15 at the time of recording. From the Kentucky Fried Chatting podcast. Pete Jones. I believe he's favorite McDonald's in Bannerite. What a fool. That is a fun fact. I think people have just pulled over. People who are driving down the highway have gone, I need to take a moment. Yeah, it breathes. No, what they need to do is call their friends because what they've just realized is that I know that
Starting point is 00:55:38 about my very good friend Pete, but do they know their favorite McDonald's? So they know what? Favorite McDonald's? Some of them. Or their. Or their. Just ask a question, just reach out to one another. Yeah. But do they know? So they know what? Favorite McDonalds? Some of them, Belarat? Or Dada? Dada. Just ask a question.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Just reach out to one another. Yeah. Connect. Get off your phones. Connect with one another. My favorite one is the one that has the two big arches that, from a certain angle, you can, it looks like it spells boobs. Is that the original one?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Yeah, it's the one that Jess talked about in the McDonald's episode. Yeah, looks like boobs At a certain angle looks very sexy Anyway, they're a bakery hill 10,000 of them congregated to hear the news of what Hotham said to their demands When they were told he ignored their pleas. They decided to form the Belarat Reform League So BRL the BRL. The BRL. Borrow. Borrow.
Starting point is 00:56:30 The Borrow. Borrow. A Canadian minor called Captain in quotation marks, Henry Ross. Producation marks. Yeah, Captain Henry, Ross. Produced a flag stitched together by English women, Anastasia Whitters, Anne, Duke, and Anastasia Hayes.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It was a white cross with a star at the end of each arm on a blue background. They called it the Southern Cross, and it was hoisted up a flagpole as a symbol of their resistance. I hadn't yet discovered the actual Southern Cross. Pardon? I mean, there is a Southern Cross. That's right, the constellation. And I hadn't figured that one out yet.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I'm guessing, or chose to ignore it and make up their own Southern Cross. Well, I think this was their, just their bed. Like, yeah, I'm assuming this is their bed attempt at it, was it? Yeah, it's what I think it's to it, it represents. I mean, the Southern Cross, to me, it looks like an off, it's kind of a skew-if diamond, if anything. Who's saying a cross in that anyway? That should be cool. That's what it should be called.
Starting point is 00:57:36 The skew-if cross. Yeah. No, the skew-if diamond, fuck. It's probably a skew-if diamond. Get that tatted on your leg, mate. Oh, beautiful. Anyway, they grouped gathered before. My granddad died under the skew if diamond get that tattered on your leg mate. Beautiful. Anyway, they group gathered before my granddad died under the skew if diamond. The group gathered before and saluted the flag in Australia.
Starting point is 00:57:53 This is a very famous flag and to this day still use as a symbol by labor groups and unions. Yes. Other meaning past the resolution, quote, that it is the inalienable right of every citizen to have a voice in making the laws he is called onto obey, and that taxation without representation is tyranny. End quote. So that's what they're gathering towards. They want to be able to vote, and they do not want to be taxed unless they vote.
Starting point is 00:58:23 The newly reformed league shot their guns into the air and threw their gold mining licenses onto the fire. Yeah, stick it to the man. Yeah, to the bullets rain back down on them. No, they shot them at appropriate angles. Oh, okay. But they rained down on someone. Oh, that's good. That's not I never really thought about. Like as a kid. I just say, yeah, that doesn't disappear into the sky. Surely in the history of humanity, someone has shot it into the air and has just come down and hit an innocent person a few miles away. Bloody hell.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Makes you think, do you want to? I think twice next time I find my gun into the air, happy acidly. I have been just willy-nilly 21 gun salute for everything. Yeah. Oh, my weight-bix would be delicious this morning. 21. 21. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Anyone counting, Siva? I'm just buying my bullets at the self-scanning register before I go on shoot. You buying the bullets at one at a time? I don't have a value pack. No. One bullet, you buy me a gun. Yeah, one centipede, it's a real good deal. I have a good deal.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Okay. I don't know, keep going. Alright, now I'm going to load the gun. Was that sound like? How many of these have gun holes? Now I'm gonna load the gun. Was that sound like? Shhh! Shhh! How many of these have gun holes? That's three. Shhh!
Starting point is 00:59:50 Four. Shhh! Five to two. Shhh! Six, that sounds appropriate. Nope, okay. It's got more than that, sir. That's a seven shooter.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Wow. Three, four rounds and you do your 21 gun salute. Is that what you said? Shhh! Shhh! Shhh! Shhh! four rounds and you do your 21 gun salute. Is that what you said? Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- I'm sorry, I'm doing a soul soul someone that pop later. People thought you were firing a gun, but you was kicking your butt. Alright, so you've done three with the balance. Four more to go. Sorry, you want me to do the rest of the rest of the circle.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I can't. And we'll do the others after the show. The song's off now. Form over that song. OK, great. Sorry, that song is really... Sorry, I'm sorry, mate. Just give us one second.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It needs to be fed. Come on, just let us fire the gun. F***! Did you just pop a champagne bottle? Because we've only done three bottles. I was ready to celebrate, but I forgot. The job at hand needs to get completed before we'd celebrate.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Four more to go and then last one. All right, sorry. All right, here we go. Last four. No! Oh my god. Sorry, someone just put their hand up, my chauffeur. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Well, sorry about that. I won't put one put my hand up there Okay, just let me buddy shoot this gun. Will you? Oh? Okay, that was one Up the truth again, sorry about that Dave please I'm trying to shoot my fucking gun. Sorry, I'll let you get your line off. RUP! RUP! It's a kelp'sa here.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I got... Well, because you've been shooting and cutting into the air and kicking a dog. Fucking fucker. RUP! The hambo's on my chest. Oh my gosh, yeah. Croc. What did you just step on?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Step on something. What does Ken not show? Did you step on that champagne bottle? Yeah. Crunched it. Alright, here we go. Bang! Bang!
Starting point is 01:02:20 Bang! Bang! Oh, you got one more bullet to go. Bang! Wow, the seven shots salute, finally. Oh, wow, so you just do that three times just. Every time you want to celebrate something, you use that? Is that correct? Absolutely. Well, that will not be tedious.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Imagine you'll trim that out. No, I would leave all of that fucking goal. And hopefully coming to a do-go animation to you somewhere soon. Good luck. Good luck, Joe Dedea. John. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:52 What are we talking about? The authority started to sense that something was going on, mainly because dogs are being kicked, champagne bottles popped, and guns being shot into the air. So what better way than to stop this craziness, than to add fuel to the fire and go on another gold license hunt?
Starting point is 01:03:08 As they move from tent to tent demanding these licenses, this is the police, a large group of diggers decided that had enough. A man named Peter Lawler stepped forth, clutching a rifle and demanded that his fellow diggers take up arms and stand up for their quote rights and liberties. About 500 answered his war cry and this group might back to, sorry Dave, his war cry. Matt what did that sound like? Let's get him boys. What are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:03:39 And with that war cry, they went to bakery hill. Yeah. That's about the war. Back up to the Makers Car Park. Couple happy meals. The flag was still flying there, happy meal in hand. But Nithis Flagg pitilol who became the leader of the Ballarat reform league, Swore. This is a famous quote in Victoria History.
Starting point is 01:04:00 We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and to fight to defend our rights and liberties. To party. And to party. So a ballerad is still the party capital of Australia. Oh yeah. These mum walked in and said, what's that noise? Let me just gel us.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It's the ballerad boys. B.C. boys. Alright. So who was this hero? Are you asking Jess? Thank you for saving me there. I didn't realize you guys were not as down with hip-hop as me. Hey, we do not have licenses to ill or otherwise. Just a kill. Just a kill.
Starting point is 01:04:40 So who was this hero, Jess? Well, I'll answer that question. Peter Lola was born in Ireland in 1827. He was the youngest of 11 children. Me, me, me, you are. What's the big question? Why not stop at 10? Correct, thank you. And also, do they know what was causing it? 11.
Starting point is 01:05:00 The youngest of 11. See, my mum, like. It's a baker's hill buzzer. They're good. Mum's one of nine kids, which means there's 11 in their family. They should have, I mean, it would have been nice if there was 10 of them, but that would mean that my uncle Jeff wasn't alive. And he's arguably my favorite.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. I mean, a lot that you got rid of Jeff before, just adding another child, that would have taken 12. No, 12. That's all, 12 all right 12 would bother Not a dozen dirty dozen sure that's far. Oh, yeah. No. Yes, I get it Yeah, we don't get the number. I'm so sorry. It's a weird thing. I don't know. It's gonna be round numbers Yeah, it's gonna be groups of 10
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah, yeah, so 12's not good even though it's visible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12. Great point. Now that you've put into math terms for me. Thank you. Now if you could just relate it to geography, my other strength, then you'll fully have me on board. Do you fucking know who you're talking to? Dave. She asks that a lot off air. She says that, do you know who I am? Do you know who you're talking to. Dave. She asks that a lot off air. She says that, do you know who I am? Do you know who you're fucking talking to? Do you not look me in the eye? I just do. You scum at people.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I just do that. I just do that. Anyway, back to Peter Lawler, one of 11 children. He was a trained engineer and originally moved to Melbourne to work on the Jolong Melbourne railway line, but like so many, deserved his job to go to the Goldbrush. Wow. He was a reportedly a charismatic man, well spoken, and he was elected as the rebellions leader, as I stated.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Lola, come boys, let's get him. So charismatic. And very, sounds really Irish too. To be sure he does. I mean me. I does. Yes. Thank you. And good night. The Queen was there.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Now, I'm saying Laura. It's actually spelled L-A-L-O-R. I read that you say it that they said Laura. And the suburb that we call Layla. Layla is named after him. Even though they're now say it wrong. I did not know that. Yeah, so but I at the time I what I've read is Lala but obviously when you see it written down it does look like Laila. I think in like you got me amannies. Laila. So Laila, Lala should say and the 500 or so rebels that had joined him through up, Aram Shekel stockade around an acre or so under their southern cross flag. A German. Must have been a big night if they were throwing up Aram Shekel stockade the next day.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So it's like a few mats we hear. Well, like any big dotted involved a German blacksmith. Yeah. Who had it out some crude pikes. That's a six position, of course. Baby, what are you reckon? Do we do the German blacksmith? It's special occasion.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Oh, get the horseshoes ready. Top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top. What a role play going on there. Yeah. Gotta keep it fresh. So the Blacksmith hanging out and hammered out some crude pikes and others gathered timber from the nearby mine shafts and created a stockade. And if you're not familiar with the stockade, basically it's just a small wooden fence type
Starting point is 01:08:19 fortification to stand behind as defense. They made a big defense. I was not sure what it was. Okay. You weren't sure what it was. OK. You weren't sure. All right, sure. I imagine I only knew what it was because of this story, I imagine.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Because researching this story for this exact podcast. No, but just growing up. Because I think this is quite recently. I know I knew this from Sovereign Hill. Dadditch, we can talk about the end of the episode of your video. No. Which we will not talk about at the end of the episode. Hastily built.
Starting point is 01:08:44 This is the stockade. I'm trying to move on quickly, but it just, it wasn't meant to be a giant fortress or anything. In the words of law, I quote, it was nothing more than an enclosure to keep our own men together and was never erected with an eye to military defense. It's been criticized over the years
Starting point is 01:09:00 because people see there's like paintings and stuff of it and it looks pretty shitty. People are like, how are you going to win a war with that? And basically it was just a little structure. And his plan was, if shit got really real, they'd run away, lead the invaders to another part and then have their last stand. So it wasn't even going to be the place where they laid down their guns and died. Wow. But over the next two days, the men and women remained in and around the stockade, many performing military drills in preparation for a possible conflict. A military structure was assembled and people were divided into brigades led by different assigned captains.
Starting point is 01:09:38 200 Americans arrived at the stockade to aid in the rebellion. Most of these people were armed with revolvers and possessed horses and were a welcome addition. They brought in some new suppliers with them. But nearly all of this group left to ambush a group of enemy soldiers and police that they had heard were arriving from Melbourne. Many of the other men and women left on the Saturday night thinking it's not possible that the police would attack on the Sabbath of a Sunday. So now there was only about 150 people left inside the stockade. It doesn't, that, that, it feels like you're mentioning these things because that's not good. The commissioner of the Balarat Goldfields, Robert Reed, had no intention of observing the Sabbath. Oh, what? Incensed by the rebels practicing military drills. He called for the police and army to destroy the stockade at first light.
Starting point is 01:10:30 On Sunday, the 3rd of December, apparently, he was also very well informed by spies from within the stockade. I knew that most of the men and women had left by this point. Do you know what snitches get? Not good Christmas presents. Correct. Riches? Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Really? I guess they do. They sell metal to the bank. Really pays to be a snitch. Yeah, right. Yeah, they get a bad rap. They do. But really, they're just savvy.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah. Good business people. Yeah, they think they're putting them first. Sometimes you have to do that. Yeah, after this bloody world, Yeah, you're not wrong. I'll tell you what I'm not wrong. What you said. Yeah, just underlining that. Thank you. Well worth underlining.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Thank you. Tell you what you're not. What's that? Gonna hold me up any more. Okay. At 3 a.m. on Sunday, the third of December, a party of 276 soldiers and police under the command of Captain. How do they have party ignoer, Jeff? 3 a.m. is first light. You thought it was going to be a party reference.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Party, dude. First light, no, so they're getting ready for first light. So 3 a.m. they get together under the command of Captain John W. Thomas. Thomas sound. Party boy. Oh. Oh. Party boy. Thomas. Mm-hmm. Thomas sound. Party boy. Oh.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Party boy. You know, I'm... Under that, the 276 soldiers approached the Eureka stockade. Thomas reason that most diggers would be asleep or still drunk from the night before. The perfect time to sneak up on them and catch them unawares. But I wasn't sure on the start. Do not sneak up on me when I'm hungover.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Boy, unless you're sneaking up with a gatorade and some hot chippies, then come on over. Maybe in orange juice. Help me get in the shower. Couple of plastic chair in the shower. Yeah, now let me sit on the floor. Okay. I deserve that. Yeah, that's true. You've got to get the water pretty hot I find, because by the time it gets to the floor, you've lost much of the temperature. Two chickens that are just gross. Oh, you are tiny. Yeah, I'm so close to the, I am. Well, I'm in the drain.
Starting point is 01:12:33 You're a picture of some sort of, like a honey- I shrunk the kid's scenario. Oh, yeah. Where's in the shower where it's? Huge droplets. Yeah. And he has to dodge them or he'll drown and there's a beetle there at least friends with Andy rise and be dear fun Dave great day you like showers thanks for shrinking me just Jess. Every shower. Every shower is a possible death. But I don't want to smell.
Starting point is 01:13:08 So worth a risk. So there's sneaking up on the stockade. Thomas, the man in charge ordered no shooting unless his bugler gave the signal. Is that the signal? Yeah. Obviously. That's quite cool. Why else would I make a silly sound in the middle of our report if not to help with the story?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Hopefully you might have been gassy. Matt made a fart joke. Pretty happy with that. Hey, a bad joke. 130, 40 episode. Found it on board. You finally get humor. Appreciate it. Welcome.
Starting point is 01:13:44 At dawn, there was spotted less than 200 yards from the stockade. Now there's a bit of life. A fuzzy yard. How's like most of a meter? Ha ha ha ha. It's like 80 centimeters of that. 71. 91.
Starting point is 01:13:59 91. 91. Yeah. Oh, why? Is it a certain amount of feet? I mean, most things that are non-metric don't convert to metric very well. That makes no sense. 91.
Starting point is 01:14:11 90 is stupid enough. 91, but that's comparing any measurement to any measurement. Because that 91 is 100% of a yard. Wow. Good point. But how many, what goes it does doesn't matter. But is it is it feet and inches going or a yard? Or is that just something else? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Sorry Dave. I just I didn't
Starting point is 01:14:34 know how far 200 yards I do know that ex-prominus to Bob Hawk for a while held the world record for scoping a Yard glass, which is a yard of beer. Oh, these old glasses, isn't it? Old-class bubble. Oh, what a guy. What a guy. Sorry, Dave. So, it's, yeah, okay. So, it's sneaking out.
Starting point is 01:14:52 I have a visual picture now, thank you. One yard equals three feet. You have everyone out? Sure. Three feet. Like, three foot longs. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Tell it to me in sandwiches. So, there was a spotted less than 200. But how many six inches? Well six. Ah. Got it. At dawn, there was spotted less than 200 yards from the stockade. Bit of light coming up now.
Starting point is 01:15:17 It's debated as to who shot first. Probably Gerido, am I right? You see the one, not Hans and Solo. Hans. Handsome. Handsome, that's Bob Dylan's you'll know? Who cares? Robert Zimmer. Robert Zimmerman.
Starting point is 01:15:35 He invented the Zimmer friend. But anyway, I'm trying to get to the bit where they start shooting it. Shots started ringing out from both sides and then Thomas's bugle gave the signal. As if it wasn't already apparent. Just, if you want to step out. We can pause if you need to.
Starting point is 01:15:52 No. Show mask, go on. So now there's bullets flying everywhere. The biggest leader, Peter Lola, was among the first casualties, badly wounded. During the heart of the battle, he had been shot in his left arm. He then took refuge under some timber and was smuggled out of the stockade and hidden. In someone's trunk? Like heroin.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He was hidden in the trunk. He got muleed out of there. His arm was later amputated. Oh, not his left one, that's my favorite one. That's my favorite of Peter's arms. Yeah. The miners were easily out gunned, taken by surprise, and outsmarted by the professional soldiers. There was a brief, vicious fight inside the stockade
Starting point is 01:16:32 before the diggers surrendered and Captain Thomas ordered a ceasefire. The assault was over in 15 minutes, with at least 22 diggers, including one woman and six soldiers losing their lives. According to Layla's report, 14 miners, mostly Irish, died inside the stockade and an additional eight later died from the injuries that they sustained. These are like miners in gold diggers. Yes. So 22 gold diggers and eight police or soldiers.
Starting point is 01:17:01 15 minutes. That would have felt like an eternity though. Yeah. Oh, because it takes so long to be. So you said they were outgunned, outsmarted. And taken by surprise. And taken by surprise. And taken by surprise.
Starting point is 01:17:14 They're the big three. Yeah. But they had a great structure, at least. Oh no, fuck. Oh no, they did. They had a, well, a stockade. A small fence. A very small fence.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Chickens couldn't get in. Or out. No, they could get out. It worked against them. They had a little chicken flap in them. But only went one way. Out, some reason. They installed it backwards.
Starting point is 01:17:43 There's meant to be an elaborate chicken trap. It was just that late fucked it. It didn't, I bet the opposite. One of the soldiers, John King stole the Eurica flag as a souvenir. He ran off with it. Does it still exist? We'll talk about it. It does.
Starting point is 01:18:01 The police arrested and detained 113 of the miners. So a lot of them eventually So rest too more All right, we're gonna need a rest too more I would have let a few go. We'll have to let three go. Thank you. See you 13 go Jess. It would not be that would be much better Thank you. Just how about this they let 100 go because eventually only 13 leaders were taken to Melbourne to stand trial I mean they let a hundred go. Yeah, that were taken to Melbourne to stand trial. I mean, they let 100 go.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Yeah, that's a nice amount of people to let go. If we look at it that way, sure, but the 13, I don't love that. It's a baker's hill, doesn't it? 13 unlucky number. For those 13. Well, actually not because they were... They all won a lot of that day. Yeah, they went in on a single ticket
Starting point is 01:18:54 No, they were lucky because I say lucky, but only 13 were taken because the the press and the public were in the most part on the side of the miners eventually Just obviously not on the side of the miners Weirdest Sneez I've ever done in my life was like I thought you'd shot a gun for a second. It sounded more like a gun shot than anything we've heard on this podcast. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:19:10 So the public and the press are on the side of the line. And eventually they got so behind them that they were all released to great public acclaim. Holy shit. Public acclaim. Yeah. So it was more like these working class guys were standing up for everyone's rights.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Woo. Throughout this time, Peter Lawler, the leader had been lying low and hiding out. It was more like these working class guys were standing up for everyone's rights. Woo! Throughout this time, Peter Lawler, the leader, had been lying low and hiding out. Hotham offered a reward of 200... Lying low and hiding out. That's the big two. His bed was, he didn't have a frame, it was just a mattress on the ground. You're right. And he had his legs out the window.
Starting point is 01:19:42 For... Temperature control. He got very hot feet. He got very hot. Feet. He got very hot on his right remaining arm. Hath them off at a reward of 200 pounds for information, leading to the apprehension of a quote, person of the name of Lawler, misspelled.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Height 5'11, 8'35, hair dark brown, whiskers dark brown, shaved under the chin, no mustache, long face, rather good looking, and a well-made man. Do you reckon if you were Lola and you saw that wanted sign, you're like rather good looking thing? Oh, okay, I'm coming. You. That was his plan all along.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Flatter him. And I'd also like to cast this man in a feature film so he could reach out to me via his agent or himself. Also, we assume massive shlong. I reckon he's got a big old ding-donger. I'm so sorry. It goes with that sentence. I mean, it goes with that sentence.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I started that sentence. Not fully knowing where I was coming from. You started with, and a massive, no, I did the general thing, but I didn't think Shlong was gonna come out. I'm so sorry. It's a great word. It was not.
Starting point is 01:20:51 It sounds big. It's fun to say. A small one can't be called a Shlong. No, it's called a Shlorton. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So there's a reward on Lawler's head, but no one came forward for it because the public were very much on the side of the diggers, as I said, and they weren't going to sell out the leader of it all. He was seen as like a real rebel. But that's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Whilst hiding out, Lawler's damaged iron was amputated, and according to the online Australian Dictionary of Biography, legend has it that Lawler recovering consciousness during the operation and seeing one of the doctors with signs of faintness yelled at him, courage, courage, take it off! What a guy. He was actually talking about Danish shit off. Take it off.
Starting point is 01:21:42 He called his shirt courage. It's a strange man. It's courage, take it off. I'm very hot. As I said earlier, get my legs out the window. I need strict temperature control. My massive shlong. It's me warm. All the remaining concealed and bellerat for several weeks. From there, he was taken to Jolong where he was cared for by Alicia Dunn and he married her on the 10th of July 1855. It was at Mary's church. Oh, that's cute.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Why haven't they made a rom come about that? Oh, it's not that rom. It's not that calm, is it? No, not enough calm. Bit rummy, though. Rummy. You're not calm enough. No, not calm.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Make a bit more calm-y. Oh, okay. Not red enough for me. Make a wrong me about. No, enough come. Make a bit more, call me. Okay. Not red enough for me. The public rally behind Lawler and brought him or bought him 160 acres of good land near Belirat. They did a bit of a crowd fund for him. 168. You know what else is currently being crowd funded? That is a Gloveless finger palm callers by Dogecoin. We're up to over $200 in donation. I don't know, really. Of $10,000.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Stop, which is about 2% overall. So 90% to go in three weeks and I'll be making a living of it. So get involved. I just didn't put a link in the description of last week's episode, but I will. So click below or check it out. I said, you said there'll be a link and I said there absolutely will not be a link. I was, I do not lie like my hips I was thinking Where is she going with this?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Why is she bringing up a hip soul for some? I was aroused in ending the words long on that My hips don't Shlaw I'm surprised. My hips don't swallow. Just before the diggers were acquitted at trial, the reward for Lawler's capture was withdrawn. Amazingly, the colonists generally shared Layla's judgment of the stockade, even the people in government, this was written about him. Neither Anarchy bloodshed nor plunder were the objects of those engaged. Stern necessity alone forced them to do it. So even everyone eventually agreed,
Starting point is 01:23:47 yeah, you had it pretty tough. Yeah, you did the right thing. They were protesting unfair conditions. Totally. And he never faced any legal consequences for his actions. The outcome of the rebellion was very positive in the long run. Governor Hotham's promised goldfield commission came out because out of this, he basically said, all right, I'll look into it. I'll look into it now. About a similar time that lawless reward was revoked, digging license fees were abolished, replaced by a £1 per year claim title deed, which also gave a digger the right to vote in council elections. So there are two things there that they were asking for. Lost revenue was made up with a new export tax on gold bullion. The rebellion had affected a real change.
Starting point is 01:24:30 In the assembly, Lawler spoke out for the interest of the diggers and he successfully advocated compensation for the victims of Eureka. So the families were given compensation for the people that were killed. Good. I shouldn't have been killed. Charles Hotham. Let's see if there were killed. Good, I shouldn't have been killed. Charles Hotham. Let's see, is there words? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Yeah. I mean, they were there shooting at the cops. Yeah, with their words. Yeah, the words. They were spitting rhymes so fast. And it sounded a little something. No, it didn't. Charles Hotham died a year later.
Starting point is 01:25:02 So he didn't stick around for long. But it turned out that Peter Lawlerless political life was only just beginning. Oh, oh. He became the first digger elected to the legislative council, so became a career politician by 1880. Sorry, he was a speaker of the House of Assembly, a position he held for seven years, which is a very high position. He died at 62 in 1889. So he, yeah. Holy shit, that's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:25:28 It did really well out of it. He would have been in Victorian Parliament when Perkins Wills were expeditioning. Yeah, one of them knew each other. And when I, the Australian football was kicking off and stuff. That's very exciting. So much stuff happened. Yeah, so many, it's like a lot of the Australian football was kicking off and stuff. That's very exciting. So much stuff happened. Yeah, so many, it's like a lot of the Australian-based
Starting point is 01:25:50 episodes have been around that back end of the 1800s. What a time to be alive and smellbin'. Yeah. What a clever nickname. That's something I do. I was starting to remember that before you got there that he got into politics. I think, and maybe I did learn a bit about it
Starting point is 01:26:10 at primary school. I just can't. Very vague memories. A long time ago. There's something that is probably around that time. Yeah, it was around that time. At the time, it was in history. It was current affairs.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yeah. They just read out the news, everyone, one morning, and you remember that. Yeah, which is good to me. The Jolong advertiser. Obviously. Just as future employer. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Right. Yeah. It was like back to the future though. So everyone's like, they were played by the same actor, just with like old Tommy clothes. So there was someone they called Jessica Perkins, grandma. Great grandma. Nice. Oh. And you guys neither of you have seen it back to the future. I have. I have someone I really love to be able to say, every generation had the same actors with a slightly different name. Yeah, well, yeah, there were different names because my name is Jessica Perkins. That's that's the thing. Yeah, your name is not Jessica Perkins great grandma. Yeah
Starting point is 01:27:09 Yeah, half-enated you drop that half-ename. Yeah after the war I'm just gonna wrap up here the with the legacy of the Eureka rebellion or the Eureka stock. Today the Eureka stock is seen by many as the birth of or the Eureka stockade. Today, the Eureka stockade is seen by many as the birth of democracy in Australia. And it's one of the most influential things to ever happen in our home state of Victoria. Many things are named after the Eureka stockade, including Melbourne's tallest building, Eureka Tower.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Yep. The Eureka stockade story has been incorporated into the design. I didn't know this. The building's gold crown represents the gold brush. A red stripe represents the blood spilt during the revolt, the blue glass cladding that covers most of the building represents the blue background of the stock AIDS flag, and the white lines also represent the, I don't know most parts of the flag.
Starting point is 01:27:57 I didn't know that, that's cool, it makes sense. Yeah, did you know that? I didn't know that, but I mean, they really shoe horning some of that. Oh, big time. But that's cool. Beautiful. Beautiful shoe horning. It is hot.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I mean, shoe horning. Wait, are these guys doing the German blacksmith? I mean, it is difficult to... They're doing the reverse German blacksmith. So yes, that's where shoe horn's not horse shoes. Yeah. It is difficult to finish the report with fun facts, which is why I did not package that as a fun fact.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Oh, it was. Yeah, wasn't that fun. I thought that was a fun fact. I wouldn't tell that at a dinner party. Oh, you've really swaps there. It just seemed quite like, yeah, yeah. And you were like, that's pretty boring. And then now you're like, oh, yeah, just like, that's fucking... Yeah, we keep you guessing.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Yeah, that was a good fact. I just like the, the designers going, you know, they're... Oh, there's often a lot of pump you guessing yeah, that was a good fact. I just like the the designers going You know though. Oh, there's often a lot of pump and wake isn't it to get you know to get picked out of the 40 architects that probably submitted for that design if you want it if they really wanted it to be an homage right surely You feel what sorry an homage put the you know you'd put that old school selling cross on there or something but yeah, I mean they named it the Eureka That fuck I'm Jesus all right nothing against anyone good on you all Wow Now Australian soldiers are colloquially referred to as diggers popularized during the first world war
Starting point is 01:29:20 This debate as to where the term exactly came from. But many point to Australian soldiers calling themselves diggers, reflecting the mateship and independent spirit of the Eureka people. That's kind of cool. Actually didn't know where diggers came from. I mean, also they did dig trenches. Sure. So, and often they did it for their lives, like a ladea, Gallipoli, got a dig to create any form of barrier. But that. So we're good at digging. Yeah. And some people refer to this though as we're good at digging. Yeah, and some people refer to this though, as why they're called diggers. Now, the final fact here,
Starting point is 01:29:51 amazingly, the original Eureka flag survived Matt. Matt, that's a question you asked earlier. Yes. Trooper John King retained the flag, and it was held by his family for 40 years, till it was lent to the Bellarat Fine Art Gallery in 1895. It's quite damaged and bits are missing, but it can still be seen in a Belarat Museum today. The original one, it's all framed and it's got corners missing, I'll say, and it's a bit cut up. But it is the original flag. That's pretty amazing. Because keep mind too that Australia is a very, very new country relative to a lot of other
Starting point is 01:30:30 places in the world. So, like, you can... Yes, talking about why Australia is one of the youngest. That's right. So, buildings that are 100 years old here are heritage listed and amazing. And then you go to like Europe and you see things that are centuries and you're like, okay, we're very new. So something that happened in the late 1800s, for that to still be around is we go, wow. Yeah, that's right. Where is how amazing? Go to Europe and things. But then at the same time, indigenous Australian culture is the oldest,
Starting point is 01:31:08 surviving culture in the world, which is hectic. 50,000 years, 60,000 years. I think they often, every time they discover new things, they realize hang on. It's even further back. For a long, long, long, long, long time. Yeah, you're right. So it's not yeah. That's it. That's it. That's it. Australia. Very new. It is a it is a weird thing when you go to
Starting point is 01:31:31 buildings in. Oh yeah. In England or something. I was like, oh this this was around since before. Yeah. Like seeing ruins in before even my grandparents were alive. And they're old. Yeah, it's amazing. Now, Jess, start the episode. I promised you some fun facts about the nugget. Oh, I thought the Eric Bennett. Did you just look them up while I was talking? Yes, I did. Well done.
Starting point is 01:31:58 And I found one trivia item. One little nugget. One little nugget, if you will, thank you, Matt. No, no, I will. High five definitely. Warring to definitely warrant it. This is from the IMDB trivia part of the nugget, the 2002 Australian film that says here. Eric Banner was the first choice to play Zander Cage in Triple X, but turned it down to do this movie. That's so good. What a fantastic decision. I love Eric Banner so much.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Big St. supporter. Do you know that about it? That is fun. Thank you. He got the St. into what's that bloody Adam Sandler move from Wildback. It's about to stand up. He was playing a stand up comedian. Funny people. Funny people. Yeah, there's a fact. So it's about to stand up. He was playing a stand up comedian. Funny, funny, funny, funny people. Yeah, there's a whole scene in it where it's spying it. There is. Fuddy and the science playing Collingwood on the TV. That's right. Don't know how much triple X grossed. Yes. 277 million. Oh, Eric, good on you for doing that. A lot of that was in the Vince Colossum O performance. So,
Starting point is 01:33:03 Vin Diesel. No, Vince Colossamo. You had it right the first time. Pete. I always follow you, Gert. When you're Gert says Vince Colossamo. That's amazing to me. Still, Eric Banner is like a Hollywood, he's been a leaving man in Hollywood and he was a sketch comedy actor on the show on TV and the 90s.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He was so funny. So funny. So funny. Poida. Poida. And every time the voiceover would say, Pida. Poida.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Poida. Poida. It's Poida. My favorite one is him doing Ray Martin. Very good. I love when he's doing cooking shows. Like, now I'm going to tell you how to cook a seven-course meal. That's a pie and a six pack.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Oh, the guy. What a guy. What six pack. What a guy. What a guy. What a guy. Is great. That is my hero right there. So thank you very much to Hannan Dempsey from Perth for suggesting that topic. I think it's a good one. I think maybe reminded a few Aussies about their primary school or high school days and overseas
Starting point is 01:34:04 people. I imagine you hadn't heard of that. Probably not. And yeah, shout out to Ballarat locals. Yeah, shout out to Connor. Yes. Who also suggested it. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:16 I just lovely humans. Shout out to all our peeps in Ballarat. And shout out to that McDonald's. What are they doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now?
Starting point is 01:34:29 What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now?
Starting point is 01:34:37 What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? What are you doing right now? knowledge to put back into my brain. Yeah, I think I was given that flag.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I've got that flag. And what do I do with it? It was given to me as a present like years ago. I like cool. It's a great present. It's a really nice looking flag. Is it a full size? Yeah, a full size flag.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Right. You don't, you don't, you don't, I wear it as a cape, obviously. Yeah. You're not an idiot. No, it's just folded in a drawer. I'm like, oh, because I mean, that's store it. I think it's been, it's used sometimes by, for maybe less nice reasons, but it's sort of like a symbol of the union movements to the Australia, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah. Yeah, totally. So, trade unions and anytime people are fighting for labor rights, that flag comes out again to be like that. Yeah. And I remember the people. I am a man of the people. I'm from the, obviously you guys are the man to me and I am the people. Yeah, where the Hotham and the Trobin, you're the Peter Lola here.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Yeah. I'm the one. At least I got a mountain named after me. I'm Hotham by the way. Oh, nice. I'm the one that illegally married my dead wife's sister. Typical. I don't regret nothing.
Starting point is 01:35:49 It's hard. It's really great. So this time the episode, we in our Patreon, which is the supporters of the show who help keep it all running. Yeah, that's right. And if you would like to get involved at any time, you're welcome to do so at doogawonpod.com
Starting point is 01:36:03 and you get bonus episodes, shoutouts, you get to vote for things like this. This could have been a different episode, maybe you people at home were Patron, you could have maybe steered it directly. Especially if you're a landslide. Yeah. But one of the new rewards on the Sydney Shahnberg level of Patreon is you get to give a fact-quotal question which we read out at the end of the episode and it could be about anything this week's fact-quotal question is from Mark Reed, Mark Chopper Reed as we go and we've met a few times on the live chats and they get to offer a fact-quotal question and they also get to give themselves a title. And Mark has given himself the title of Refreshment Liaison Officer.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Oh, love it, a lot of landmark, yes. Mark, that's great, but I'm feeling quite powerful and where the hell are you? I need to. And he's... Matt need to. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm drink. I am dry.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Dry ginger mal. And he's offered a fact this week and his fact is The shark in the jaws movies was named Bruce So named after Steven Spielberg's lawyer I've seen that shark at Universal Studios really also it's a big Physical 1998 You got in the Universal Studios. So really? Oh, so it's a big- Probably the same physical- 1998, baby. So basically, you go on the Universal Studios, like, ride. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:29 And it goes around and it's all movie themed and you see like the house from Psycho Up and a Hill and all this stuff. And you go on a bit where you go along a bit of water and then the music sounds playing. And then a giant mechanical- Yeah. Shark comes out and when my dad lent over to take a photo of jaws, his sunglasses fell off and landed in Bruce's mouth.
Starting point is 01:37:51 So it was like the shark 80 sunglasses. And we never saw him again, and that was an eight year old. That was so funny. Oh, I thought you were so sad. Traumatic. I got really scared on that ride at the park with not Godzilla. What's the big monkey?
Starting point is 01:38:04 King Kong. It was a king Kong. Actually, with Godzilla, not Godzilla. What's the big monkey? King Kong. It was a king Kong. Actually, an ape, not a monkey. That bit scared the shit out. Real, oh no. It's a common thing people get wrong with the primates getting monkeys confused with apes, which I talk about a lot on my new podcast primates.
Starting point is 01:38:20 When's that coming out soon? It's coming out soon. I'm just waiting on Evan to get the music to me. I've recorded a few episodes, including one that you've been on. Jess is going to be on one soon. Jess should be on the King Kong one after that. No! No! That's wrong. No! As punishment. Try pod have a song about King Kong and the chorus is just get to the fucking monkey. Because that's very disappointed. Yeah, get to the fucking ape. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Anyway, it's a great ape. Thank you Mark Chopper. Thank you Mark Chopper for your fact about Bruce. That is cool. So cool. So cool. Now another thing that we do with our petrons is thank them at the end of the episode and then we do a little thing with their names or with their form. What are you thinking Jess anything?
Starting point is 01:39:09 I was thinking of giving them a, an amount of gold that they would have found. Right on. Like a metric fuck tonne could be one. Yeah, or we could do dollar amounts. Six yards. Or you could think of something else ton could be one. Yes. Yep. Oh, we could do dollar amounts. Six yards. Or you could think of something else we could give them. I love that. I love that a lot. So what can I, can I kick it off?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Oh, sure. How much gold are they going to get? Let's do it. Yep. Hey, we were talking about this man earlier in the episode from campedown in Victoria. Mr. Connor Saunders. Connor!
Starting point is 01:39:46 What are the chances that we thank you on this episode where you've suggested the topic. So I really hope you have listened to all the way through, Connor. Thank you so much for the suggestion and the support of the show. Someone mentioned you on Facebook this week saying, she's that red-headed guy on the front row
Starting point is 01:40:01 is really well lit in one of the live episodes. They weren't talking about you. No, yeah, good question. I didn't qualify that. Maybe they didn't eat. Is that weird that I assumed it was Connor or not me? Yeah, that is weird. You're not on the front row.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Thank you. Well technically maybe some people viewed that the stage as the front row. Well then they're thinking of us as one of them and that is very, very wrong. Well no, I feel like one of them. Yeah, you would. Yeah, maybe they would. Revolution. I'm a diva. Now how much is you are? Hey and can't. All right, you are not. Connor. I'm going to say Connor. Connor's got a chuff full. He's got a chuff full. A tired chuff full. A tired chuff full of coal. Well, coal. Sorry, Connor. Wow. Gold.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Oh, gold coal. Gold coal. Gold gold? It's a one of those things. Maybe you paint it black. Just sort of smug it out. Rolling stone stone. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I was gonna, yeah. Paint it black and check it out. You should've rolled it first off. And then when you go through customs, they go, they check me out. Now I just call, just call after chuff. Now I say, on your pop. Carry on.
Starting point is 01:41:07 No worries, say, off you go. Welcome to the country. Have a bloody good stay, mate. Oh, I've got really threatening at the end there. Have a good stay. Hope to see you again. Where are you going to be staying? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:19 So I feel like Michael came full on hard times. Okay. Full bus. We've all been there. I'd also love to thank you for May. Please. From Thetford in the greatest of Britons. Great Britons.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Oh. Philip Greer. Philip Greer. What a great name. And Thetford is a great sounding place too. Just looking at where that is. Thetford. Thetford.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Thetford. Bet they do a great real ale. Oh, it's in between Cambridge and Norwich if you zoom out. So on the towards the... Oh, only if you zoom out though. East Coast. I'm thinking... Yeah, between Ireland and Germany if you're really there. It's funny because I don't understand geography. I'm guessing that's true. An empiric pintful of gold. Oh wow, an empiric pint. An empiric pint.
Starting point is 01:42:07 That's the big one, right? That's the big one. Nays. That's a lot of gold. Congratulations to Philip and thank you for your support. Now I've got to ask you, Matt, I don't want to make a accommodation between our listeners, but is that more or less than a chuffful? Well, it depends on the chuff, but Conor is a big man.
Starting point is 01:42:23 He's a big guy. And I assume he is in proportion, then he's got a big chuff, which I still don't fully know what it is. Yeah. You'll figure it out one day, little buddy. What are you? Peter's at the chuff. It's the chuff.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Right. Can I thank some people? Yes, please. I would like to thank. I'm an imperial. Did I say empiric? Sorry, it doesn't matter. Imperial point.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Oh, that's what I imagine too when you said it. I think you may have said Imperial, but I would like to thank from Agnes Banks in New South Wales. Noah Wright. Noah Wright Agnes Banks, I don't know, I've heard of that. He's Googling again. I've just got the the maps open on Agnes. Agnes Banks, that's a place not an elderly woman. No, and I'm near on Agnes Banks. Would you like a toffee? All right. I guess please. All right, just one toffee each. Okay, thank you. Oh Matthew, you can take a second one. You're cheeky little bugger. Thank you Mrs. Banks. Oh, you're born you waited. You're cheeky little chuff. Now get off my garden and don't ever get back on it, Thank you Mrs. Bank. I'll need a ball new way then. Check your little chest. Now get off my garden and don't ever get back on it.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Understand? Sorry, Miss. Sorry Miss Banks. I'll be in sleep in so many chimneys lately. Oh my god. Thanks Miss Banks. So long for a call. I hope to see you again one day.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Oh my god. The fuck? It took a real turn. Where's Agnes Banks? It's just she's in her home, just leave it be. She's just east of the Blue Mountains. Oh, lovely. Noah, Noah Wright, how much gold did Noah Wright find?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Noah Wright. I mean, I've done them all so far. What about an arc full? Well, that, I mean, you're being way more generous. That's like a big boat. That's heaps. Noah. Noah Wright. Noah An arc full. For that, I mean, you're being way more generous. That's like a big boat. That's heaps. No, no, no, no. I know her, right?
Starting point is 01:44:08 No, it was arc full of gold. He decided to let the animals drown and instead stocked up on gold. Savvy. Yes, Savvy business wise. Makes sense. It destroy our humanity and animal entity, but. Animal entity.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Flora and fauna thank you to know congratulations on your arc and i'd also like to thank from where is this tonkari that can't be right Michelle Claire Michelle Claire tonkari exists. Tunkari. Surely it's not Tunkari. I just say it.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Maybe it's Tunkari. That's Tunkari. Tunkari. Yeah, but they're probably, surely they say it differently. Tunkari. Tunkari. Tunkari, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Yeah, that makes more sense. Tunkari, it is. Michelle. Michelle, I reckon, has done very well for it though. Michelle's done well. Oh, a metric tonkery? No. Well, a well for. A well. And it was quite a deep well also. Oh, good. You need to stipulate that. Yeah, very deep. It's a well that they've concreted in and she's put one nugget on top of it. You know what they call wells, they call them natures chufs. Yeah, that's true, they do, they do call them that.
Starting point is 01:45:31 So that's good that we've clarified. Thank you. That's a little fun fact, a little bonus fun fact at the end there. I like that a lot. Now I would like to thank if I may. Please. All the way from Woodbridge, Ontario. Ontario.
Starting point is 01:45:49 In Canada. Which is just outside of Toronto. I would like to thank Kathleen Neves. Kathleen Neves. Okay, Neves. You make me weaker than Neves. Thank you so much, Kathleen. You look so good, everybody.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I mean, sure. How much gold has she got, Kathleen Nives? Kathleen Nives. Oh, I think Kathleen only got a couple of those little ones. What are those little ones called? Little Nuggies. Olivia Gold. A couple of specs. I only got a bit of that. She went panty and got a couple of specs little ones. What are those little ones called? Little nuggies. Little of your gold. A couple of specs. I don't know. Got a bit of that. She went panting
Starting point is 01:46:26 and got a couple of specs. I mean, you can, I mean, you can get, she can have anything. And that's a good thing. Well, I'm sorry to be realist. I'm going to say. I think they can all have arcfuls. No, yeah, they're really, well, no, I really stole a lot of gold from everyone else. Sorry. He was a realist. Don't say she's unhappy. I didn't say she didn't have a wonderful life after that. You know what? She met the love of her life. Really?
Starting point is 01:46:50 Yeah. Yeah, and he's known her right and luckily he had a shitload of gold. So she made him weak at the knees. Even Noah didn't find that funny. I mean, it's a fun love of her life. It's so funny, it's beautiful. Jess. If you've gotten weak at the knees, you should see a doctor.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Well, you're gonna pay him with specks of gold, you know, she doesn't have enough. I think often, you know, this is a monkey-paw sort of thing, isn't it? You wish for an arc full of gold, but that just fucks you up. You're not. You're not a gold. Yeah, no, I've just started a fantastic life.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Imagine the bush ranger that'll be swarming around you. Oh, maybe like you wouldn't be able to trust any friendships beyond that. And if you're putting that up your chuff, obviously that's gonna be painful. A couple of flex. You don't even notice. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Yeah, flex in the chuff. You wouldn't ever saw a chuff do that. Kathleen, in summary, thank you. And finally, I would like to thank from Manchester in New Hampshire, USA, have we ever seen that thing somewhere in New Hampshire in the US? I'm not sure. Far Eastern state. I would like to thank Benjamin Arbrisson. Been around for a while. That's right. We've got a few tweets from Benjamin Arbrisson who is very, very keen for us to do a report on Joseph Stalin.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Oh, yes. Benjamin, we may get there one day. Stalin would be a great report. Obviously, you're voting a lot, so if it comes up in the hat, I hope you do vote for it. And just quietly between you and me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie, despite the war we had on Twitter that time. How is that quietly between you and him when you just sit on the podcast, which gets millions of downloads?
Starting point is 01:48:25 I also they had to invent new numbers. That's definitely a Christmas movie. I mean there are a Christmas party if it wasn't Christmas I assumed he was buying up being ironic when he argued that They should do it. They've never assumes irony. I think that would be a fun vote in the hat one time I made not fun fun is not right word but like a dictator or a a vote in the hat one time, maybe not fun fun is not right word, but like a dictator or a, um, a tyrant vote. Yes, maybe we can organize one of those coming up. That would be good, but thank you very much for your support Benjamin Arborson. I do appreciate it and so does Jess and Matt. And I think that you have one limo full of gold. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Let us know if you're on and you can let us know at any time by the way anything by tweeting us Going on our Instagram following us on Facebook or emailing us all the links are now conveniently located on our website
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