Two In The Think Tank - 142 - The Great Train Robbery

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

In 1963, a gang of crooks robbed a train. But what was so great about it that it's gone down in history as one of the greatest heists ever? Did they get away with it? Who are they? Where are they now (then)? All will be revealed on this week's episode!Report starts at 7:45. Check out Gamey Gamey Game: http://gameygame.com/dogoonSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodWebsite : dogoonpod.com Support Dave's Gloveless Finger Palm Coolers Pozible Campaign: https://pozible.com/project/gloveless-finger-palm-coolersSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] and other reading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9musU7Ke0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Train_Robbery_(1963)https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-21619150 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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always with two dear chums, Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. I'm a dear. You're a chum. And I'm, yeah, I'm dog food. Chum-chum. I'm a cute little dear. Ah, headlights. I'm in a good mood.

Which is good. So, yes, because you weren't able to make it into the last week's episodes. So it's good to have you back. Yeah. One week on, how are you feeling just? I am. Fine. Thank you.

It's a great recovery. I had to take the next day off work. I couldn't get home from here. I had to come get picked up. But I'm okay. I'm fine. Everything's fine. Sorry about that. For those who missed it, go back and listen to it. Yeah, go back and listen. Go back and listen to the lack of jazz throughout the last week's episode. Technically, technically I was physically present. Yeah, physically present. Except the two times I left the last week's episode. Technically, technically, I was physically present. Yeah, physically present. Except the two times I left the room.

I was gonna say there were times you weren't physically present. Yeah, but you carried on because you're professionals, unlike me, who leaves the room to spew. So this podcast, we go on if you are new to it, it's a podcast all about things. Each week we do a show about a different topic, which has been suggested by a listener. It'll be picked out and a report will be written by one of the three of us.

The other two of us don't know what that topic is. And this week it's Jess and we start the topic with a question. Yes, and my question is, have you heard of? I love these ones. Yeah, because I don't think you'll know this one because I certainly didn't. Okay, so no is the answer. Oh, what is it? She's guessing. I'm presuming. I love these ones. Yeah, because I don't think you'll know this one because I certainly didn't okay So no is the answer. Oh, she's guessing I'm presuming I could be wrong You know what presuming does it makes a cruise out of sue and me. I'm assuming Well, I lost control of that one. Do you want me to say assuming? Yes, okay? I assumed you don't know

You know what assuming does that makes an assuming about N and G? Okay, fuck, alright, please just ask the question. Have you heard of the great train robbery? Yes. Ronnie Biggs. Yeah, he just, oh, I was gonna tell you the story, but I'll let you do that. That is the most just thing to ever have. No one's heard of this obscure story. I didn't know how else to ask.

I don't know too much about it. I was just going to add the bare bones. The bare minimum. Yes, I'll be the same. I know the skeleton of this story. I know enough for a pub quiz. Great. This is great.

I knew that it was in the news not too long ago. Yeah, it would have been. Yeah, that's great. I don't know. This would be similar to like things like escape from alcatraz and stuff like that. I vaguely know it, but I don't know. I don't know the bloody meat only, no the bones.

Yeah, right. So I put this in the hat with two other topics for our Patreon, Sydney Shineberg listeners to vote on. And this was a, like, double anything else. Like it was a big front runner, even though there was another one in there that I was very keen to do, because it was ridiculous.

So I might try and put that up again another time. What was, was there a general topic where they all try and related? No, they were all kind of event or like wacky events. Initially, because I'd done three biographies in a row wanted to do something A little bit diff, yeah, so see the little diff That is so you Thank you, you know me, unpredictable

I really do I don't know, I would dare not predict, but I'm bloody looking forward to this report Right, well I'm sorry that I did presume you were both idiots like me. Yeah, you met a sous-out of prune me. What? This was suggested by Ed. Funnily enough, I think we have to see only this. From Ed, the TV show. Yeah, Mr. Ed.

From Mr. Ed. Yeah. That's a lot of Ed TV shows. Ed TV. Ed Ed and Eddie. Thank you. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. Wait, what was it Ed Ed and Eddie? Yeah, there was the first one had one day Second edit

Which is silly Eddie My grandpa's it was also that there was a duo in the 90s called someone in Eddie and that is someone went Baby, you will never find another girl Oh! In this heart of mine In this heart of mine In this heart of mine You can hear my high, when you hear my heart and high Where'd I find her? No, you baby, would I lie to you?

That's amazing, the bullshit that remains in your brain. Was that like three 90s hits together? I think so. Maybe, did I, sorry. I think that might have been a bit of a mess. That was a mashup. Was that like three 90s hits together? I think so. Maybe did I, sorry. I think that might have been a bit of a mess. It was a mash up. Was a job on him, mash up. Anyway, so no, just Ed.

Tested this side. No horse. No horse, no ed with two days or an eddy involved. Okay. Charles and Eddie is saying would I lie to you? Important fact. Charles and Eddie. Yeah. It's not like a bad name. I think a one hit wonder. Do you? Important fact. Charles and Eddie. Yeah, that's not a good bad name.

I think I won hit one though. Do you think the names were Charles and Eddie? Oh, no, no, no. The 90s was a wild time, Jess. You simple or you were a 90s child, okay? Yeah. I wasn't an adult in the 90s. Please do go on, I'm so sorry, Jess.

So, at 6.50 on Wednesday, the 7th of August, 1963, the traveling post office train set off from Glasgow Central Station, on route to Houston Station in London. It was scheduled to arrive at Houston at 3.59 the following morning. That was a long journey. It was a long journey.

Like, is this some sort of a time traveling? It's set itself to arrive the next day. That's cool. What is it? Is it the lorry? It's like it's leaving at night. What? And then it arrives in the morning. Just like, that's cool. I don't know if it's a sci-fi thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a true story. You be the judge. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Lothman Part 2. So the train consisted of 12 carriages and carried 72 post-offer staff who sorted mail during the journey. That's six staff members per carriage.

Dave, am I right? On average, yes. 72, weirdly, I didn't notice that. That does bother me a little bit. 12, 10 carriages was 74. No, I'm okay with 12. Wait, isn't 72, that's a multiple of 24, right? I know, but here.

Which is a day? That feels 72 somehow feels like a round number to me. Yeah, 72 feels fine. I don't know why either. I don't understand me. Okay. The second carriage behind the engine was known as the HVP, which was the high value packages coach, which carried large quantities of money and registered mail for sorting. Usually the value of the shipment was in the region of 300,000 pounds. It's not quite a lot of money at the time. Quite a lot, this isn't the 60s. But because the previous weekend had been a UK bank holiday weekend, the total on this

day was between 2.5 and 3 million pounds. That is some hot tamale. That is a lot of pound. Yeah, too much pound. What did you enjoy about that? I don't know, I just like to have used to put it so poetically. I'm like, what a analogy is going to use it.

I play with attention, pausing, being comfortable. Yeah, that's what that's your gift. That's your gift. That's your gift. Which, didn't know silence. Quick compliment her. Oh, friend, we're afraid of silence. Feel the gap.

That is not my gift. That is not my gift. Compliment her. Okay, yes. So just after three, so they're not far from their destination Three I am well they left it's like six fifty p.m. So yeah, so they're sort of in there and that you know when you're time traveling You're in that weed sort of zone in the middle and like numbers are flowing through the sky and stuff and like cows

Yeah, oh yeah, and your mum you're like mum I mean we're all time from yes. Mom? What are you doing? Oh, she's gone. I'm stuck to do a wormhole. But safely. So just after 3am, the driver, a man called Jack Mills, stopped the train on the west coast

mainline at a red signal. Have a piss. No, the signal had been tampered with. Someone had covered the green line and connected a six volt ever ready battery to power the red light. That sounds too easy to do. A bit of branding involved there too. I like to name in shame.

They know what they did. Yeah. They partook. The locomotive's second crew member, known as the second man or fire man. Oh, I mean, fire man's a very confusing time. I would demand to be called the fire man, because second man sounds bad.

Yeah, it's not particularly creative either. But he was a 26 year old guy called David Whitby. He climbed down from the cab to call the signalman from a railway trackside's telephone. Only to find that the cables had been cut. Oh, sick. I once played a train signalman in a sketch and that character's name was Tray Sigmund. Now that is creative. We took out four letters.

I love it. Did you write that? I think no. I think that was Alistair Tromboli Bersh, because we're in that kind of genius. Yeah, that sounds like something he would do. So good. He's so talented. God, I wish it was more like that. As he, so as David Turner and it made his way back to the train, he was grabbed from behind and quickly overpowered. Meanwhile, the train driver, 58 year old Jack Mills, waited in the cab for... Mill Z.

Mill Z, waited in the cab for Whitby to return. Take it at risk. Witters. Gang members entered the cabin from both sides of the train, and as Mills grappled with one robber and attempted to force him off the train, he was struck from behind by another gang member with a club. Like a nightclub?

Yeah, he was struck from behind over the back of the head by a nightclub. Oh my goodness. Yeah, they just hit him with a building. That is quite a blow. Right. Yeah, to itself a him with a building. That is quite a blow. Right. Yeah, to itself a stain. I assume.

Yeah, you'd feel like a real jackass if you got hit by a nightclub. Yeah, I should have seen this coming. It's a nightclub. I mean, they make a lot of sound. But they are notoriously dark and it was nighttime. That's right. And he was also very high.

He'd have been at a nightclub when they turned the lights on. Oh, it's so sad. It's so sad. I don't think so. Moving at Festival Club once, which is during the Melbourne and Testaricality Festival, it's just Max Watts. It's a venue in Melbourne, but that's where everybody gathers. And it was 5am one time and they turned the lights on,

and it's like, oh, this place sucks in the light. Oh, it's so gross. I can see you all. Oh, not good. The mystery of vanishes. Yeah, yeah. Well, I shouldn't have been there at 5am, but it's having a good time.

Anyway, so he's been hit over the back of the head, but now the robbers have a problem. They had to move the train. The bounces are going, not in those shoes mates. But not sure, thanks mate. I've got three ladies with me. Doesn't that mean something in the 60s? I'm afraid not to.

I went into it. This is, oh, I'm going to show how stupid I am. I went into a bar recently and at the front, obviously they're checking our ID and he's like scanning it. He was making a small talk, then he was taking a photo of us. And I was first, so I then like waited for the person I was with. And I saw what that comes up on the screen for them and it has like your name, age, everything. But then also says your star sign and I was like, that's a bit funny. And then only a

couple of hours later realized that they could ask kids with fake ideas, what's your star sign? And I was like, star sign as well. Oh Virgo, you'll be picking up tonight. I was just like, that's a bit cute that it has that there. I wonder what the point of that is. And so then I had a deal with them Virgo. So in this moon phase, we better keep our eyes on them. They're the perfectionists. You'll be troubled, you're not coming in. Notice that in three Capricorns,

and you will be starting your fight. I know what you guys are like. I know what you fire signs are like. If that's what they are. I don't know. I guess one in four chance. True. If they're fire wind, water, heart, go planet.

Anyway, too many derailings for this railway themed episode. So they've got a problem. The problem is that they have to move the train from where it's been stopped to a suitable place to load their truck with the stolen money. They didn't bring someone who can drive a train. There was a bridge half a mile or approximately 800 meters ahead. They had thought ahead, and hired a retired train driver as part of their gang to help with this exact task. Perfect.

However! What? Despite having driven trains for many years, he was unable to operate this newer type of locomotive. It's not automatic. Yeah. Oh. I don't get it. Where's the coal?

With no other option it was decided that Mills, they just made semi unconscious would have to move the train to the stopping point near the bridge So she's just got to go 800 meters. It's not that far, but he's just got a movement. No, they're like using the club to like wait Getting him maybe we can bash some sense back into it put away the the battering club The waking club. They hit him on the back of the head now Now they're trying to hit him on the front of the head, like can't react it. Turn on this nightclub's lights. You'll wake up. So I'd run him up.

They hit him over there with a health club, a base bar. A coffee club. A coffee club. You'll be able to. A coffee club, that. A coffee club, that. A coffee club, that. A coffee club.

A coffee club. A coffee club. A coffee club. A coffee club. A coffee club. A coffee club. I don't like that. The train was stopped at a Bridego bridge as a robber's assault force attacked the high value package carriage. The train staff were made to lie face down on the floor in the corner of the carriage, and mills and witby were then brought into the carriage, handcuffed together and put down beside the staff. And do the robbers have guns at this point?

Or is it just clubs and there's lots of them? That's a good question. I don't think they had guns. There was approximately 15 of them. So it's a pretty big gang. But I don't think they had, like, yeah, I think they just had like clubs and brute force They fought the robbers they formed a human chain to remove all but eight of the 128 sacks from the HPP carriage So they took 120

Thank you sex of phones sex of phones. Yeah They're very valuable. Yeah valuable if you're selling 120 sex Bloody hell. Yeah, you make a good money a couple of grand a piece. You melt them down. You haven't like, outlite any money. So it's all profit. Yeah. 100% profit. Yes, that's clever business.

Yeah, that's a big band. Oh yeah, yeah. Ready to go. Yeah. So they're all good to go now with their 120 sexifiers. It's like 10-h. Sounds like unfortunately they forgot to bring some on. They forgot to bring that. They forgot to bring some. They forgot to bring someone who knew how to play this saxophone.

So they had to wake up the driver. Mate, so I'm so sorry, we knocked you out again, but can you regain consciousness and test these saxophones? We need to know the best sounding ones. We're going to leave behind eight shit ones, 10's at the best 120. Luckily he also, you had to play saxophone. No, it's a sax of money and Jules. Other other valuables. They transferred this to about 15 to 20 minutes, right? So they've formed like a human chain. It's passing everything on. Have they, do you have to run

drills and stuff like this? Probably. They departed some 30 minutes after the Robbery Hood begun in their Austin Lodestar truck and in an effort to mislead any potential witnesses, they used two Land Rover vehicles, both of which had the same registration plate, which was BMG 757A. Okay, is that cool? That's cool. Is that good to make people run like it's more like you don't remember it, aren't it? I think that's the way they're the the the decoy ones, right? They'll just be confusing. I don't have a feel smart and I can't put my finger on right. I know because then I sort of feel like you've got twice the chances of remembering it. I'm remembering it. Wouldn't you just have no number

played on it? I think it's sort of meant to be like a red herring, right? I I I thought these were decoys that's not where the stuff was. They were just decoy. Well, there's 15 of them, so they need more than one car. Right. Imagine that. Fuck, we've only bought one. I misunderstood, so I thought they all went off in a truck and then there were these

two decoy land rovers. No, they've gone off in that as well. So they hit the road and they're listening for police broadcasts. Mate, they have gone off. They are, they're journey taking somewhere between 45 minutes in an hour and they arrive back. They're journey of growth. Yes, they're personal journey. They're maturing. It's beautiful. Didn't take long though. They arrived back at leather slade farm around 4.30 a30am, which was the same time as the first reports of the crime were being made.

So they were hearing on the radio like people reporting the crime. Now Leather Slade was a rundown farm 27 miles or 43 kilometers from the crime scene. It had been bought two months earlier, specifically to use as their hideout. Right, there's a lot of outlay going on here. Yeah. I mean, they could have just done it up and sold it for a profit. Yeah. It's a farm.

A lot of farms. A lot of farms in the 60s. Hang on to it for five years. Yeah. Trifle your money. Give it a lick of paint. God, say. I know.

God, say. Learn to invest. But now they got all these saxophones to decorate it with. No, it's a nightmare. We're watching a lot of clear eyes as well. And there's one guy who has like all these caps, much like that. Type of hat you like to wear, Matt. He has them all on his wall. And Bobby says, hats are great for the head.

They are not daikol. And that's how I think he would feel about all of those saxophones. Exactly. They're great for the head. They're not daco. They're not daco. Oh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Isn't it doobitibaba? No, that's jazz. Very similar to sand. God, I'm not good at this.

All right, so they've committed their crime. They've taken off. Let's take a step back for a moment. We've heard about the crime. Let's get to know the men behind it. Oh, I love it. This is storytelling at its finest. I wrote all of that down.

Let's take a step back. Okay, so there's a few names here, and I've just got little like summaries of each of them, like what they were doing in their lives. And their star signs, obviously. No, I don't have their star signs, but we can make them up. We're gonna one and 12 share. Yeah, it's gonna be that hard.

Bruce Reynolds was a thief and a teak stealer. He planned the robbery that had become one of the most notorious in British criminal history He was kind of like the head honcho. There was also Ronald Buster Edwards He was a former boxer and club owner widely believes to have been the one to hit Jack Meals over the head with the club He's a club owner that makes sense That makes sense So he brought his nightclub with him. Yeah

You didn't want to, didn't trust it. Oh no, not that. That's true. Yeah, no. If he's not there, he doesn't feel comfortable. I'm not still from the till. There was Charles Frederick Wilson. He was the treasurer who gave it to the robbers.

They're cut of the hall. Roy, I love that they've given ranks for a criminal. It's good, isn't it? Treasurer. It just basically means it wasn't much else about that guy. I don't know what else he is. There was a secretary. There was Roy John James, booking agent. He was a chief getaway driver.

That's a pretty good title. And nicknamed Weasel, he was a silversmith and a proficient racing driver. He plans to invest his share of the cash in new car technology. Elon Musk. Wow. Is that where he came from? Elon Musk. Yes. Yes. I cannot confirm nor deny so I'll say. There was a Brian Arthur field who was a crooked solicitor who helped make arrangements for their getaway. I think he was the one who also helped to buy the farm and stuff like that. There was Leonard Field, no relation. He was a merchant seamen. A skill set, not all that helpful with a train robbery. Guys, if this ship, I mean train, wouldn't go into any water, I'd be the captain, all right? It's agreed. He can't break that habit. Still calling it a ship. I've gone down with a ship. All right, Lenny. Let it get in the fucking truck.

You mean getting the boat? Yeah. All right. Getting that yacht over there. No problem. There was Gordon Goodie. It was a hairdresser who moved to Spain to run a bar after his release. Also, I mean, maybe we'll help with disguises, I don't know, but like doesn't seem like that essential when planning. In an interview with him, he was talking about how he's dead, like wanted him to go into the family business or something like that. I don't remember what that was,

but he was like, but I wanted to be, and I thought he was gonna say hairdresser, and he's like, a thief. That's like, okay. I love it. Right, you know you. There was James Hussie, he was a decorator, known as Big Jim. Love it.

Roger Cordray. I mean, if they were gonna do it at the house, he's very important. And we also need Roger, who's a florist. This is a rag tag bag. It's so good. Like on, in reservoir dogs, when they get people for their skill sets or oceans 11, it's even more the case.

This is not the, all right, we got the florist. We got the decorator. It started off like the race car driver as the getaway driver. It's like, this is great. I mean, they've got that, but they didn't get a train driver who could drive a train. Yeah, not the oneaway driver. It's like, this is great. I mean, they've got that, but they didn't get a train driver who could drive a train. Yeah, not the one they had.

They also had James White, who was a former paratrooper. He was known as the quartermaster for three. That feels more useful. Yeah, this is a rough and tumble guy. Tommy Wiesby, he was a bookie and self-confessed heavy. Don't, I don't fully understand. It was his role to frighten the train staff. So he was just the big dude.

And there was Bobby Welch as well. He was a nightclub boss and later a car dealer and gambler. So that's the rag tag bunch. So this, this raid, it wasn't a spontaneous thing. Obviously they bought the property ahead of time. It was devised over a period of months by a core team. So goodie and Edwards, along with Bruce Reynolds, Charlie Wilson and Roy James, Reynolds assuming the role of mastermind for the robbery.

And what was his background again, which one's running? Bruce Reynolds was the, he was a thief and antique stealer. All right, cool, cool, cool. And he did say he planned it. Yeah, he was sort of, yeah, one of the leaders of it. This gang, although they were very successful in the criminal underworld, had virtually no experience in stopping and robbing trains.

So then this is the help of another London gang called the South Coast Raiders, this group, which included Tommy, Wisby, Bob Welch, Jim Hussie, were already accomplished train robbers. And that was Roger Cordray as well, the the florist, a man who was a specialist in this field and you had to rig the trackside signals to stop the train. So like, I mean, floristry is that just a cover at this point? Must be. Oh, I mean, like, we all have all three of us do multiple things. See, that's right.

Floristry is the day job. Yeah, who are we, the judge? Passion is train robbery. Yeah. In Get Smart, Don Adams' cover job was greeting card salesman. I'm pretty sure. It's a pretty good thing. It's a similar sort of idea, florist.

Yeah, there you go. Just somebody you wouldn't expect. It's a good cover. I wouldn't expect it. You wouldn't be like, oh, been another big train robbery. Let's go bust a florist. Do you know what? I went to a florist a couple months ago and bought a bunch of flowers.

And it was a very small shop. And he didn't greet me when I walked in, like just ignored me, seemed annoyed that I was there even though I was giving him money. But I noticed as he was wrapping the flowers up, it's so weird that I had this thought. But he had these monstrous hands. I was like, his hands were enormous,

and I was sitting there watching him around these flowers, like, he could kill someone with those hands. Oh my goodness. And now I think that was clearly a cover. Yeah, that makes sense. And the amount you paid, daylight robbery. Flowers are fucking expensive. Do you think I have enough evidence to call the police? I think so. is clearly a cover. Yeah, that makes sense. And the amount you paid, daylight robbery.

Flowers are fucking expensive. Do you think I have enough evidence to call the police? I think so. This man had large hands, arrest him at once. That was so big, they must have committed a murder. They could. If they haven't already, they could. Right, so back up to where we were up to, they've escaped, they've arrived at leather

slayed farm around 4.30 in the morning, just as the crime's being reported. Is there enough bedrooms for everyone? There is not enough bedrooms. Oh my goodness, this is so badly planned. Well, at the farm, they counted the proceeds and divided it into six to... They counted the bedrooms. They counted the bedrooms. We should have counted before, but there's 15 of us and there's only four bedrooms.

It's just not good. Yeah, but heaps of bunk beds. Great. They're fine. Sorry, count and proceeds. And they divided it into 16 full shares and several smaller shares for associates, like the dodgy solicitor who of them by the farm

has a hideout. So they sort of had other associates to pay off, but they gave themselves larger shares, obviously. The full shares came to approximately 150,000 pound each, which is about 2.65 million today. Wow. Pounds. Pounds.

Wow, so that's a really good money. That's huge. Yeah, that is a really good money. I think someone should write that down. That's the quote of the day so far. That's a really good money. I'm pretty sure that is really good money. Oh, no, that is really good money,

but what Dave said was that's a really good money. Sorry, new character. That's is really good money, but what Dave said was that's a really good money. Sorry, a new character. That's a really good money. Italian accountant. Who doesn't do an Italian accent, but does speak in broken English. That's a really good money. That's a more right. Well, I'll add a new language.

I like to nail the accent first, then learn the words. Okay. Multibeni. Yeah. Va bene. Allora. They had food to last them quite a long time in hiding although the plan was to stay there just for a few days before they thought it would be safe to leave. Sort of like hide out, lay low and then they could go home. Apparently they're in really good spirits. They were drinking, they were playing monopoly with real money. They were, wasn't there a couple of gamblers in the bunch?

Oh yeah. They lost their money before the week was out. I think that's so crazy. Like I'd be like, yeah, let's play with the real money, but I'm not actually betting on it. Well, then again, I'm not a gambler, not a gambler. Or a robber. Or competitive, but also I don't give a shit about it.

Or a monopoly player. Or a robber. Or a robber or competitive at all, so I don't give a shit about that. Or a monopoly player. Or British. Try as I might. Or a live in the 60s. That's some more, eh? See, I can't do it. That's a good money. That's a good money.

The police had calculated that instead of taking off with their whole, they'd gone to ground within 30 mile, within a 30 mile radius of the crime scene. With their buddy right. Yes, but this was based on within a 30 mile radius of the crime scene. With a buddy ride. Yes, but this was based on information given by a witness at the crime scene, who stated that a gang member had told the post office workers not to move for half an hour. Ah, for God's sake. The press interpreted this information as a 30 mile radius, which was about a half hour drive in a fast car.

Ugh! Dickhead. Don't move a half an hour and please don't tell them to search the leather, slayed farm. That's leather, slayed farm. Like, can you explain that one more time? What happened there? So one of the robbers has said, don't move for half an hour. So they assume they're traveling within a half hour radius.

So now they have an approximate, they go, okay, well, they'll be driving pretty fast. This is an approximate area they're going to be in. That is, that is really dumb if that is where they are about half an hour away. Yes, Matthew, they are. Did you listen to any of what we said? Where did you go? That is not a good money. That is not a good money. That is not a good money. That is not a good memory. Not a good memory. The gang realised that this information probably meant they'd be found sooner than they

had anticipated. So they decided they would leave the farm the next day to avoid capture. Guys, we haven't finished the game of Monopoly. I'm looking pretty good. I don't want to stop until Matt lands on my Mayfair hotel. We are not any... Someone take a photo of the board. We can recreate this later at our next hideout.

Oh my god, do people do that? Probably. Yeah, sad. But not please, it's a divisive game. It is ruined friendships and things. I've never been near one a completed game. No! Really? It's fun.

I've been played as a kid, but it does feel boring to me. Are we gonna play Monopoly? No. Oh. I'd be well up for it. We'll hold a little dinner, hold a little wine? Hey, we want some wine some cheese. I'll be up for another one.

We played Trivial Pachute or something. Yeah, okay, that makes my sense for us. But I'm an idiot. Oh, I'm not good at it. Let's play Yatsi. Yatsi! Only if I can yell Yatsi every time. That's okay, part of the game.

But I will be only increasing in enthusiasm, Adelaide. Yatsi! Any volume. I think it's a play Trivial Pissue, but still yell Yatsi. Yeah. Okay, can I yell my My NAPALE! Certainly not.

Oh, I'm not coming. Anyway, so they're deciding to leave the farm. Now, it had been arranged that an associate referred to as Mark was paid to burn down the farm in order to destroy the evidence. What kind of evidence are they leaving there? Like fingerprints and... Monopoly boards. Oh, right, of course.

Physical evidence of them being there because they were there. Right. Yeah. However, Mark didn't do this. He did a runner and by the time the gang were ready to get back to the farm, the police had already found their hiding spot under the kitchen of the abandoned house. So they borrowed like, under ground. They weren't just in a house.

They were sort of like a bunker underneath. Oh, that's awesome. So they were, I think pretty well covered, but the police found it quite easy. What did they discover that Mark hadn't burned it down so they were trying to get back to that day? Exactly, yeah, yeah. So it was all within a couple of days. Couple of days. Couple of days. So they, I think, so let's say it was a Wednesday when they did the crowd Thursday Wednesday when they did the crime and they were planning on leaving originally it was gonna be like Sunday they'd say they're for a few days and then Mark would do it Monday but they left the next day like Friday and he didn't go and burn the place down so by the time they've realized he's

done a runner and they go back to do it themselves, the police had already found it. So that's not good. The police down. That's been placed down. And in an interview that I saw as well, somebody was like, if you're gonna hide, like, hide in the city because people in the country are a little bit nosier. Yeah. They sort of know what's going on. When a group of 15 guys that they've never seen before, rock up. Rock up. And then you don't see them because they've gone underground. Yeah. What's going on? But they'll go, but they're

truck still there. The police were actually given a tip off from a herdsman who used a field adjacent to leather-slade farm, who obviously must have seen something out of the ordinary that people were probably there or cars were there or something. So he's tipped them off and a few days after the robbery, police sergeant in a constable went to the property, and the farm was deserted, but they found the trucks used by the robbers which had been hastily painted yellow.

It's like that sounds like they've done a shit job. Like, ah, it's a different car. It's like, oh yeah, a bright yellow truck. They also found a large quantity of food, bedding, sleeping bags, post office sacks, registered mail packages, banknote wrappers, and a monopoly board game. I like to try to get away with it by painting a different house like going, we were looking for a red trucker, there mustn't be it, or it's like the guy going, I'm gonna put on this hat. And the cops rock up and I go, our guy didn't ever hat on.

So I can't be him. Sorry to bother you, Mr. Hat. You know how they had like one truck and then the two land rovers that matched? Yeah. Well, they were both there as well. Right, great. And what's the point? I don't understand the point of the number plate thing.

You've got both this. Yeah, I don't know. It almost feels like you have twice the chance of getting caught. Yeah, people remember the number. I thought they were decoys, but it feels like they were just things. They're the same place.

Yeah. It's like people were like, oh, I was seeing double, I must be misremembering, I won't tell the cops. Yeah. Four crusties. I was seeing four crusties.

So they've done a real sweep of all the evidence that's left behind. And then the police undertook a major search. They found out from the crime scene after having failed to find any forensic evidence there. A watch was put on the seaports. And a postmaster general, Reginald Bevins offered a 10,000 pound reward to the first person giving information, leading to the apprehension and conviction of the person's responsible for the robbery. And in the public, it was quite divisive.

Like, some people were like, well, they're robbers, like, they're bad guys, but other people were kind of like, good on them. Because it was so ballsy, because it was such a big thing that they like so much money, an unfathomable amount of money at the time for them to have got away with. Some people were kind of like a bit Robin Hood, even though they weren't giving it to the poor and taking it for themselves. Brash the shit out of a train driver. Yeah, I know. But that's the thing. Like, I'm obviously you look at and go, well,

no, they're criminals. But some people at the time was sort of like, what are bunch of heroes? Jess, you say that some people at the time, me right now, I'm barricading for them to get away. I can't help myself. No, I always do the same thing too. It's like, go on. And then why'd you leave them in uply, boy, fuck!

Even while you were saying that, and then you go, they did bash her, go on, I'm like, oh, yeah, fuck. Yeah, you might change your mind with more information as well. Oh, okay. Oh you go they did bash her go I'm like oh yeah fuck yeah You might change your mind with more information. Oh, okay. Oh, they didn't bash her. Oh no, they did So the first member to be caught was Roger Cordray Think he was a florist Of course who was cool Straight back to the flower shop. He couldn't resist. Bornmouth or Bornmouth Police were tipped off

by a police widow, Ethel Clark, when Cordray and his friend William Bowl, B-O-A-L, Bowl. Bowl. Bowl. Paid rent for a garage three months in advance, all in used 10-sheeling notes. Used, yeah, with no money in brand new, 10-sheeling notes. Um, used, was not worth paying brand new 10 shilling notes. Yeah, good point.

Oh, yuck. So she was like, something's not quite right here, so she tipped off the police. Imagine calling the police about that. The money has been used. In a brutal and heart-breaking twist, William Bowle, who was not involved in the robbery at all, was sentenced to 24 years in prison for the robbery. And he died in prison in 1970. So what was his connection again? He was just a friend of one of them. Renting the garage. Yeah, and his friend Roger were renting this space.

I think he was probably helping him like low. He might have known what Roger had been involved in, but he had nothing to do with it. Ooh. And this is what I think your opinion might change of them because I haven't written this down perfectly, so I'm going from memory here of a docker that I watched. But a lot of them pleaded not guilty in claims.

They didn't do it in their trials. So when he was up as well, they couldn't say, no, no, he wasn't involved because that would then, I mean, they were admitting it. But then somebody made the point that they, like once they're all convicted and they're in jail, then it doesn't hurt you at all to let him just speak up unless they're still trying to deal.

Yeah, but you're like, well, I'm convicted, but he wasn't involved. And he died in prison, an innocent man. Isn't that fucked? Yeah, that's heartbreaking. And like even some of the robbers were like, yeah, that was wrong. He shouldn't, he shouldn't have gone to prison. Oh, that was, that is big of them. Yeah.

No, they had to come back around on the, they were right. So other arrests followed after Roger as well. Eight of the gang members and several associates were caught. The other arrests were made by Sergeant Stan Davis and probationary constable Gordon Charlie case. I don't know why you get Charlie from Gordon, but okay. Just by the way, you know how I'm like, I know this. So I have not known a single case of this so far. I've heard of it is what it turns out. All I knew about it was the name, I think. Yeah. And you haven't mentioned Bigzie yet, I know. I just realized that too.

I think I'm skipped him in my list. Oh, I assumed that he came in. I'm like, where does he come from? There was another run in your room. You're right. I must have missed him in my list. There was Ronald Biggs as well. I can't wait.

I was starting to think that maybe he came in late somehow. I'm like, I really don't know this story at all. No, he didn't want to question that. In fact, he's in like a sentence I have like, I really don't know this story at all. I don't know if he's in a question. In fact, he's in like a sentence I have coming up about his background there. I don't, I don't remember what he's sort of, hang on, let's, I mean, he said another,

when he said Ronald, yeah, I thought, well maybe when he goes on the run, he changes his name and maybe he picked that up. So that's why we all know him. I've got it here. Ronnie Biggs. Yeah, because I'd always assumed he must have been like one of the real key players. Like the leader, I thought. But it was, but maybe it's just because something that happened later made him capture the attention. Well, yeah, Ronnie, I don't have much here about like what he's, you know, how the others were like a florist or a racing car Ronnie, I don't have much here about like what he's, you know, how the others

were like a florist or a racing car driver. I don't have a heaps here about what his main skills were, but he did go on to be one of the most sort of famous of this group for what he did after this. Right. So, and I'll talk a bit about that later as well. He came an Olympic runner, triathlete. Amazing. Looking forward to that part of the story.

I mean, don't. I mean, that's really hiding and playing sides. Yeah. And he also. Representing your country and getting a gold medal. His nickname that he gave himself was the fastest man who had ever gotten away with a train robbery. And it was catchy.

I mean, if you ever robbed a train, would you call yourself that? Yeah. No, no, of course not. No, that smart. That's what they call them bigsy because they had big brains. What's a big money? It's a big money. So on the 16th of August, two people were taking a morning stroll in doorkin woods. Doorkin, about the people who lived around there a bit lame.

Are they just? Yes. Oh. They discovered a briefcase and a camel skin bag, all, both of which contained money. They called the police. Who also discovered another briefcase full of money in the woods, in total of some of 100,000 pounds was found. I never find these briefcases, not once.

Have I ever found a briefcase without a thousand of them? You're not looking. Yeah, no, I know, get off my ass and look for the brave Care course you sound like my mom If you're in docking wood you find a hundred grand equivalent to what two million pounds or something these days Do you call the police? Yeah, if you're a dog you do yeah, and these guys are dogs

I hadn't connected that. Yeah. Inside the camel skin bag as well was a receipt from a cafe, a restaurant. I said one train robbed, signed, bludgeoned man. We'd sign off like that, but... And it... I mean, he had a concussion. Yeah, that makes let me see.

Got his name. It had Brian Fields' name on it. So this led to his arrest a month later on 15th of September. How many times you got to a restaurant that give you a receipt with your name on it? Yep. What an idiot! And if you don't want to get...

Give a fake name. Taken by the cops, don't go to a restaurant. I mean, it's in the name, arrest. No, I'm not giving you that one. No I am. That is. That's a crowd splitter. Sure. It took too much of a run up. You're a great divider. I know with you know I always try to go with you on things but that was a piece of shit. Honestly I have annoyed the crap out of me on this episode and I'm so so over, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, She did now. And then I crashed again. Yeah, and spewed a bit more. And then I had to go home and go to bed. I was not okay. Roll a coaster.

Oh, cool. What a day. So then following all of this as well was the capture of Roy James, Ronnie Biggs, Jim Hussie and John Daley. So pretty much all of them. Are they running each other out of this point, do you think? No, I don't think so.

I just didn't think they're covering their tracks. Very much covering their tracks a lot. I mean, one of them left 100 grand in a forest. It's not very cover. With a receipt in it with his name on it. Like, you're not bright. Now, the trial of the robbers began at Ellsbury, Buckingham Shire, the next year, in the January 20th 1964 because it would be

necessary to accommodate a large number of lawyers and journalists. The existing court was deemed too small and so the offices were specially converted, the offices of the rural district council were specially converted for the event. I thought that's pretty cool. I mean more tax pay money wasted on it. So the defendants were brought to the court each day from Al's free prison in a compartmentalised van out of view of the large crowd of spectators. And Mr Justice Edmund Davies presided over the trial which lasted 51 days and included 613 exhibits and 240 witnesses.

He's gonna sound like a dumb question, but this is first name justice. I also thought what a fortunate name. Isn't that great? So good. Mr. Justice. It's like that actor in America called Judge someone, what's his name? Dress. Judge. Oh, I don't think I know him. I've ever made that up.

You think you have Ashley Judd? I think you have Ashley Judd. God, I don't think I know him. I've made that up. Can you give Ashley Judd? I think I'm Ashley Judd. God, she's good. She is good. God damn it. Double jeopardy. Is that her? Yes.

So, on the 11th of February 1964, there was a sensation when John Dele was found to have no case to answer. His counsel claimed that the evidence against his client was limited to his fingerprints being on the monopoly set found at Leather Slade Farm, and the fact that he went underground after the robbery. But his counsel went on to say that Dele had played the monopoly game with his brother-in-law Bruce Reynolds earlier in 1963, and that he had gone underground only because he was associated with people publicly sought by the police. This was not proof of involvement in the conspiracy and the judge agreed and the jury were directed

to acquit him. I mean, if putting a hotel on Parkland and Mayfair is a crime. Ah, put me away now. Lock me out. Lock me out, man. But if it's not a crime to charge reasonable board for a great facility at a very high price hotel, then let me go because I have a hotel to run. Thank you. Exactly.

I rest my case. Get it. You could represent yourself. I will. I'm okay. I mean, you'd almost definitely go to jail, but you could. I could. You could if you wanted to.

I don't understand any of the processes, but I'm going to try. So, so they're directed to a quiz. This guy gets off. He was involved. Yes. Guy not involved. Bow all. Yep.

In jail. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Gosh. As for the rest of the accused, 30 years in Prismat was handed down to seven of the robbers, while Brian Field and Leonard Field, no relation, successfully appealed the all the rest of the accused, 30 years in Prismat was handed down to seven of the robbers, while Brian Field and Leonard Field, no relation, successfully appealed the charges of conspiracy to rob, meaning they would only serve five years for the lesser crime of obstructing justice. So they got smaller sentences. At the time, the severity of the sentences caused some

surprise, particularly given that their sentences were longer than the sentences handed down to murder as an armed robber's at the time. When mastermind Bruce Reynolds was arrested in 1968, he allegedly told the resting officer Tommy Butler that those sentences had a detrimental effect. According to him, they'd promoted criminals generally to take guns with them when they set out on robberies. Because it's like, you're going to get 30 anyway. That seems weird. Oh.

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what? He wasn't a 68. He was about five years or something, they were on the run. So the masterminds on the run, he'd be thinking, well done, don't squeal, don't use squeal. Yeah. And so his son talks about the day that the cops turned up and got him and that his dad was kind of like, so the office's name, the arresting officer was Tommy Butler. And he saw him and was like, Tommy? Like he was waiting for it basically that whole time. And then he went off to prison. What do I do? Pretty full on. Tommy Butler. Tommy, I know why you're here.

Tommy, no, wait, you're here. Tommy Butler. Yeah, I know why you're here. Tommy, no, why are you? Tommy Butler. You're just shows me. If it isn't Tommy Butler. No, Tommy. Doesn't this feel like a car, Rachel? Then why would you, Tommy? Yeah, Tommy. Tommy the Tatler. Here we are, hey.

New York coming, Tommy. Jessus, lend back. She's let me go. Once to see what happens here. Not going anywhere. That's fine. Good to see you, Tommy. not going anywhere, that's fine. Good to see you, Tommy.

Thanks for coming by. Let's go. I'll stop you there. You are going somewhere. You're going to jail. No, no. Oh, right. Sorry.

I was thinking of a different Tommy. You're the cop one. I thought you were the florist. All right. Off we pop. We're getting the bad event. Here we go, Tommy. All right.

I mean, you could just walk quietly to the cage. I've done commentate the whole way there. Here we go. Left right left right. One foot half the other. A C L. Mama used to say to me, left right. All right. Here we go. Opening the door now. All right. Put my first leg in. Second leg. Watch your head. Watch my head there. Butz on the seat. Watch your head. Watch my head there, butts on the seat, buckle up, shut that door. Here we go, start the engine,

drive enough, round the corner. Here we go. All right, we're on the M1. She's a highway and Melbourne, interesting choice of direction to take. Feels like a long way round. And sing. Weeding the say there, as we're... the side there as we're.

No, enough. I've got a bit of a where are they now? I'm going to leave Ronnie Biggs to last. I love a where are they now? Well, where are they then? It was basically out. Where are they then? I can't quite do. Where are they then?

Let's find out. Well this is what happened to them after their trials and imprisonments. Okay. Bruce Reynolds fled to Mexico on a false passport, then later to Canada with his wife, Angela, and son, Nick. As we were talking about just then, in 685, he's after the crime. He returned to England and was captured

and jailed for 25 years. So that's how he got away. He went overseas for five. He was released in 1978 and lived alone and broken. A small flat off London's Edgewear Road. He was jaddled again in the 1980s for three years for dealing and fedamines. After his second release, he went on to work briefly as a consultant on the film about the robbery, the film was called Buster, and published the autobiography of a thief in 1995.

He died in February of 2013. But the only ones that Jeff are 10 years. Yeah. And just a quick note of all of these, it doesn't really seem like this rubbery paid off for any of them. I mean, first of all, they got court and jail, so they don't actually have that money. But none of them went on to have great lives, to be honest. Right. I mean, they just had so much potential. Yeah. And did you take it all back to not having the place burnt down? A couple of those big mistakes? Oh, I don't know.

Do you think they would have got away with it without that evidence? Yeah. I think there's just too many people. Yeah. 16- and a least. 16 people know about the crime. You catch one and there's one speech. Got to catch them all.

Oh, yeah. Got to catch them all. Honestly, I think a trio, for example, us, is the crime. You catch one and there's one speak. Got to catch them all. Yeah. Go catch them all. Honestly, I think a trio, for example, us, it's the perfect. I will write you out so fucking fast. Are you kidding me? Well, yes, that's only if they get you. Yeah, but I would say, let me off, if I give you the name to the other two. And I said, no, we know it was Matt and David, you three do everything together. And I go, nah, shut up, we don't. It's the same people. Say you'll let me go and I'll tell you what really. Yeah. And then he named people that's innocent. Yeah, it was Mark, Brun, Adam Knox, we had a group, but they did it. Yeah. Zach was not present. Zach is a good boy. Anyway, Brian Field, after being sentenced in 1964, he served four years of his

five-year sentence. He was released in 1967. He changed his name to Brian Carlton to disappear. Sometime after he's released from prison, he married Cian from Wales. And in the mid to late 70s, they worked for Children's Book Centre in Kensington, High Street in London. He and his wife were responsible for the company's operation in Central and Southern Europe to where they shipped English language books and held book fairs at international English schools. I was going to say you're right, everyone seems like that. A horrible life after it's worked in books. Yeah and like the head of Southern Europe or whatever that says pretty big.

Field aged 44 and his wife aged 28. He's dick exploded. Oh fucker. Oh When he's dick exploded. Where did you get dick exploded from? What was the where was that coming from? The Drowned and succinct. I don't think I imagine it came at a no-fim as well There's a lot burning and then all of a sudden but the explosion exploded went from a lot burning to explosion way too quick Yeah, then I realized that the light burning was the wick Well, there are a wick hanging out That's really painful. It's not died in a car crash You must have in some ways that is more tragic

than a penis exploding. In some ways. Yeah. Right. That's unfortunate. Yeah. And that was in 79. So when he was 44. Starting to feel a little bit like that movie, final destination. The Pharaoh's curse. Yes. That was what the seventh sequel, final Destination, The Theros Curse. That probably would have been a better film than the first five sequels. Then there was Ronnie Edwards, Ronald Edwards, like Bruce Reynolds, the former boxer and club owner, fled to Mexico after the robbery, but gave himself up in 1966, something called years later. The year the Saints won the Premature. He lived to see the Saints win, And then the side. I don't care. Yeah. After serving nine years in jail, he became a familiar figure,

selling flowers outside London's Waterloo Station. He was found hanging in a garage in 1994. Oh, again, I was about to say that sounds. Oh, that's okay. That's a career. At the age of 62. Charles Wilson was captured quickly and during his trial earned the nickname The Silent Man because he refused to say anything. Makes sense. Not one of those ironic men. He would not shut up. He was jailed for 30 years but escaped after just four months only to be captured again

in Canada after four years on the run and he served another decade behind bars. Four years on the run is pretty good. Yeah, it's great. And another decade because his sentence was 30 years, so that's not too bad. When he finally emerged from prison in 1978, he moved to Spain, where he was shot and killed by a hitman on a bicycle in 1919. This does sound like a curse. Yeah. Totally.

How fucked is this? So he was shot by a hitman like a curse. Yeah. Totally. How fucked is this? So, he was shot by a hitman on a bicycle. Yeah. I don't know if he was on the bicycle or the hitman was on the bicycle. I like the hitman. I like the idea of it. I can ride by.

Yeah. And they're just slightly cheaper than those driving hitmen. Yeah. You go to the hitman agency and you weigh up your price, you're like, you could probably earn the afford. Maybe you got a bike, scooter, if you raise a scooter. No, I was thinking more of a mo-ped, but no, raise a scooter, that's really low budget. All the skates.

No one's going to think they're a killer. True, they think they're whimsical. Yeah. Because they are. No one's going to think they're killer. True, they think they're whimsical. Yeah. Because they are. And then there's Roy James, after serving 12 years of a 30-year sentence, he sold silver at a market before moving to Spain. In 1993, he was jailed again for six years for shooting his wife's father and hitting her

with a pistol. He died soon after getting out of prison, aged 62. Okay. Couple dying at 62. He sounded like a bad guy. Yeah. A lot of them are going to Spanish-speaking countries, including Spain and Mexico. Well, there's no extra edition there. This one, I don't have, look, I've been doing this a lot, not on purpose, but you guys

are going, oh, this sounds okay, and then I hit you with something painful. Yeah. This one, there's nothing bad here. Gordon Goody was released in 1975 and he moved to Spain to run a bar I have no further sentences. Really? That one sounds okay. Still there parting to this day. Who knows what happened? Mahito's a dusk. Is that a thing? Is now? For the name of the bar? Yeah James Hussie was released in 75 after working on a market stall, he laid open a restaurant in Soho. In 1989, he was jailed for seven years for a drug smuggling conspiracy with fellow train

robber, uh, Whizby. Oh, okay. So they, they were still friends, which is cute. Roger Cordray, our florist, um, he was jailed for 20 years, reduced to 14 on appeal. Following his release in 1971, he went back to the Flour business and moved to the West country. Nothing bad, nothing bad. Oh, that's pretty good. The Flour business. Yeah. Tommy Wiesby, I just mentioned before, he was the bookie and the heavy man. He was sentenced to 30 years and released in 1976,

but he was jailed for another 10 years in 1989 for cocaine dealing. After his release, he ran a flower stall and went to live in North London. He suffered several strokes as his health deteriorated. Do you think are these flower stores like dealing drugs or something? Is that possible?

There's so many of them that go to this business. Yes. Flower stores. Like with the Glasgow ice cream malls. Yes. Which we did an episode on. Which episode on? Because they were getting the ice cream trucks because it was easy to sell drugs to kids through that. I don't know. Maybe it's a good front. Maybe. Now I'm gonna trust a forest again. All those poppies. Yeah, that's right. OPM.

OPM. Of course. We got a couple more. Bobby Welch, who was a nightclub boss, was sentenced to 30 years' relief and was released in 1976. So he was released early as well. Bobby Welch.

He was late. Straight name. He later had an operation on his leg and the operation went wrong. So he was left. With three legs. He did operation on his leg and the operation went wrong. So he was left with three legs. He did it on his arm. After J. Lee became a car dealer and gambler in London. He's the... Car dealer or car dealer?

Car dealer. Car dealer. Not like Maxwell's mother. John Whedder was a solicitor who was convicted of conspiring to prevent the course of justice. He was sentenced to three years and released in 1966. He went on to live in Surrey. Again, nothing to mention. And that is horrible. The worst fate of all. I'm not good goodness. That always saved until last but... Not knowing anything about Surrey.

I'm not afraid to say an absolute hole in the ground. Oh my goodness. No, beautiful place. What, I'm sorry. Now, you could pretty much do an entire episode on Ronnie Biggs, but a little bit of a rundown for you here. After only serving 15 months, Ronnie Bigg successfully escaped from prison in April of 1965 with the help of an escape team. He had plastic surgery in France and moved firstly

to Australia and then Brazil evading a number of arrests. During this time he courted the media with his story. Detectives traveled to Brazil in 1974 and the hope of catching him, but they were thwarted because Biggs by then had a fourth son, Michael, with his Brazilian girlfriend, who made him legally untouchable. It was like, out of their jurisdiction.

Three sons fine, four sons. You got four kids. No, four races in the hall. They're on the plane and he's like, Bizzily go and come on, that's a one of the kids. He's like, he's like, come on, boning real good.

Okay. For a second there, I was considered you did not know how, where kids came from. And I was like, oh, dear. It's just not just you. He's just like, he's just like talking to his wife's belly. Come on. Come on baby. One son. Come on. Baby.

One son. It needs to be a son. So the direct in the plastic surgery is any good? What's he done? He's had a bit of nose work. With a nippin' tuck. All right. I mean, like if they, I mean, is it purely for,

because he wants to look different or is he also like taking lipids and be like, look, I've always wanted to have. I'm sure you would. Wouldn't you? I mean, if you were going to do it to change your appearance anyway, you, I've always wanted to have. I'm sure you would. Wouldn't you? I mean, if you were going to do it to change your appearance anyway, you'd change your appearance for the better. Yeah.

You know, you're not going to be like, make me uglier. Yeah, but maybe. You do, I do it for practicalities. I'd get my eyebrows put out three inches in front of my face to get some rain falling on. Oh, amazing. Three inches.

Yeah, like a peak of a cap. I'm on one of the only little sticks. Permanent hat. Oh, amazing. Three inches. Yeah. Like a peak of a cap. I want to go on like little sticks. Permanent hat. Panging out. Yeah. How are they attached to your brow? No, they were you like a whole, to me, that was a real dumb question. Dave.

Yeah, Dave. You don't get it. Sorry, you think the tuffs of hair are just longer. No, no, you've, you've, you've forehead your extending out in a thin, you're basically turning, um, you've forehead into like the brim of a hat. Oh, sorry, that was a dumb question. I'm so sorry. No, no, no, I don't know that it was.

I'm not a visual thinker, so I apologize. That's why you do the plastic surgery around you. That's right. And you're still booked in for Tuesday morning? Please. Just, uh, just do what you will. I'm living up to you. Well, I think I've got some real big plans for it. I've got I already have quite a large far ahead. So this will be interesting. Putting your nose on your mouth. Well, people will never suspect me of being a robber. Yeah. mouth. Wow, people who never suspect me of being a robber. Yeah. The plan. I'll never talk again. You're a mouth breather. Watch out. Yeah. I'm putting your ears on your mouth.

It's also just moving everything to your mouth basically. Oh, thank you. You're a very crowded area. Yeah, I look so different. Nobody will ever know it was Dave. A few more fun facts about Ronnie. He released a single with the six pistols in 1978. After lead singer Johnny Rotten, I'd left the band. What say he's the new Johnny Rotten? And so this whole time, everyone knows it's him.

He's living it up in Brazil. Yeah, but I can't touch him. In April of 1981, he was kidnapped by a gang of British ex-soldiers who were hoping to collect a reward from the British police, but the boat they took him aboard suffered mechanical problems of a Baba dos. Oh no, they didn't have a son who could drive a boat. And the strife. We'll have to wake up the train driver. Psh, psh, psh. This stranded kidnappers and pigs were rescued by the Barbados Coast Guard.

Barbados had no extradition treaty with the UK and pigs were sent back to Brazil. Eventually, in 2001, who was very ill, he decided to return to Britain and face a rest. He self-contended to deteriorate while serving the remainder of his sentence, and he was finally freed in 2009 on compassionate grounds by then just a secretary-jack straw, and he died in the early hours of the 18th of December of that year. So he went to jail for eight years?

Yes. Wow. Yeah, right at the end of his life. So what year did he die? Because I remember this in the news. 2009. 2009, right. I believe you. Why do you reckon that Brazil didn't have good health care? Is that why he needed to job? I was so vaguely remembering doing media in my childhood. Sorry, he died in 2013. 2013. Right. So he was out of prison for a few years. Oh, right. So he had been, he wasn't in the whole time. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like I remember seeing him interviewed on TV a bit. Yeah, he is, I heard it, I think. Yeah. Like a book tour or something. What's the, if you're doing that sex pistol song? Yeah. Like, he's such a big fuck. He's quite an interesting life. By the looks and that, like I mentioned that he could do, I could go on and on and on, probably about him. So that's why he was the most famous in the end, the one we've heard of because of how long he got away

from the authoritized. Yeah. And he was a bit of like a fuck you, sort of. Yeah. He was like, eh, eh, eh, you can't get me. It was a bit of that. Right. So that brings me to the end of my report

on the great train robbery. I can see why it is the great train robbery. Yes. Even though it all went wrong very early on. Yes. Only one train robbery has that title. It's crazy. Almost was like they were cursed by something.

It really does feel to me like they have made a, there's been a mini series about it or like a two-parta series in the UK. That is quite mini. It feels like that's the guy richy film waiting to be. Yeah. You know, that's like a lock stock type film. It also has a bit of a feel of the greater scape is sort of our picture, you know, spoiler alert. A little moment there for people to haven't seen that old movie.

But towards the end, the escapees will you follow their stories outside of the prison camp and a lot of them don't end well, nearly none of them. Yeah, it's just so interesting that yeah, even after even as some of them only serving a relatively short period of time, for a 30-year sentence, they only serve say like 10 of it, let's say. Us for 30 years feels wild for that. For that, yeah. And that's I think again. Apart from maybe the one who beat the guy, but it did the train guy survived, okay? He, he didn't go back to work, I don't think. He wasn't able to. Wow. He was left. I believe brain damage. Oh, okay. And he died later. I think you got sick. I'm remembering leukemia. Right. Okay. So yeah, hefty sentences make...

But he wasn't murdered at that time. You know, like, you see in a movie like a go-gong, donk, and they pass out and you picture them waking up the next day and... What happened? Yeah, or like even like half an hour later, be like, oh! Anyway, back to work.

Yeah, but obviously that doesn't happen. No. That large sentence for that crime was part of why people were sort of like thinking of them more like heroes or all kind of starting with the being a bit more sympathetic towards them because it felt like it was maybe it overboard. But none of them really seemed to learn from, well a couple of them didn't go back to crime, but most did and were later put in jail for other things. So it's like they were just criminals,

regardless, like they didn't learn from being caught. Right. And serving time, they went back to crime anyway. The prisons are famously places where you learn to be better criminals, aren't they? They used to be. They didn't, used to put so much time and a rehabilitation, I think, are they better now?

I have no idea. I studied criminology a long time ago. Yeah, back in the 20s. Yeah, back in the 18s, 20s. You pioneered the field. Yeah. Yeah. The labeling theory, that's what I'm on.

Is it? No. That's right, don't lie to us. What have been so many to be proud of? Yeah. I'll do. But you have nothing to be proud of. No, I'll do. You have nothing to be proud of. Yeah. No.

And I don't, I don't feel bad for saying that. That's a big money. And that's a big money and that is a bigger reporter from Jess. Well done there, that was a good story. Yeah, fun. Enjoy the ride there. I'm looking forward to the guy, Richie Film. Are you going to be awesome if he's listening, which Oseumi does.

Yeah. We can't. I would, yeah, I would happily be a consultant on that film. Yes. Play a minor role, perhaps. Sure. Okay, minor. No, I'm humble.

And also, most of the big roles are men. Hmm. I believe you. Typical. Yeah, in this day and age, I reckon they could cast you as Ronnie. Thank you. I could do it. Maybe they could they could do a gender swap as well. Yes, oceans eight style. Love it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's not fallen apart though. The pitch meeting, they just say, no!

It's still be runny. They've got their pen on the checkbook. Oh, just got a cross-crick tea. Unclick. Oh, by the way, the man carries things around up. Thanks for dropping by. You're pointing at the door. Stop doing physical gags on this podcast.

You're never working this. Very podcast. You're never working this. Very good. You're never working this town again. Oh wow. Yep, so there you go. Thanks, Bob. That was great. I really did know nothing about that.

I tried. Do you know what? I wrote that report with Dave Warnakian might. Right. I was like, how would Dave do that? Yeah, it was a real Dave Esk. DeRechan? Yeah. You know, I liked it so much.

Yeah, I like it. Not just saying that. No, I'm not just saying that. That's why I started with like what happened and then I went back and there. I love the jumping around. That really appealed to me. Yeah. So thank you.

My favorite part was probably the where are they then, Sammy? Me too. That's a real Dave segment. I would definitely do that. Where are they now? Also, I looked up, because I'm sure people will be annoyed by the short mention. Judge Reinhold is the actor's name, but it's a nickname. His real name's Edward Ernest Reinhold.

I also look up Judge Reinhold. That guy. What's he from? Beverly Hills Cop and stuff like that. He is he is He is a mum's boyfriend in something Wow the role he was born to play it's either in a TV show. No, it's in a film He is the boyfriend of somewhat is he He's in stripes with Bill Murray. Yes, he is in stripes.

Well, he's in Gremlins. No, Beverly Hills Cop. No. I mean, yes, he's in these. Beverly Hills Cop 2. Ah, no, so where is a mum's boyfriend?

That is Dane, who's got the will. Oh, wow, that's bad. Is that the name of a film? Yeah, Bank Robber, Beverly Hills Cop 3. Ah, the Santa Claus. Yes! Yes, he's the new, he's like the step oh, the Santa Claus? Yes! Yes!

He's like the stepdad in the Santa Claus. Oh my God, I did it. I was gonna say opposite Robin Loomis, but it's him out. Is this weird? He's in Beethoven's third. Earlier tonight, I was playing Beethoven's third symphony to the others for some reason.

Wow. Wow. I guess we're in Wow. That is weird. That's borderline weird. I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out here. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do.

Oh my God. Stop. Let's just thank some people. Oh great. That's our way out of it. Our way out is to remind everyone that if you love the show and you listen every week and you want to keep the show rocking and rolling, you want to give back a little bit in exchange for some rewards like bonus episodes and shout outs and voting on the topics that you decide what

we talk about each week. You can do so at patreon.com slash do go on pod, you get all the above mentioned things at the different levels and including being thanked on one of the episodes, which is for six lucky people going to happen right now. No, well just before we do that we've got our new famous segment. So famous the Dave will never forget it. It's called. Fact. Quote. Or questions. Dun-dun-dun. What's it going to be this week, Maddie? Dun-dun- That's not all questions. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan.

This is of course submitted by a Patreon subscriber at the Sydney Shahnberg level. This week, Dave, it is a question. Come on, Dave! This week's Sydney Shahnberg level Patreon is Daniel Summers. Hello, Danielle. And also every week, the Sydney Shahnberger gets to give themselves a title before asking a question or giving a fact or a quote.

And this week, Danielle has said she wants to be titled this week's Ringo. Oh, love it. Yes. Good decision. She said, all makes something up. But I like this week's Ringo. Yeah, that's great. Oh, love it. Yes. Good decision. She said, or make something up, but I like this week's ringo. Great. We are very lazy. We will love me doing that. Thank you. Dave, quick. First thing we come to you had a title. John the Baptist. So you got two options there, Danielle. One of those being the one you came up with, which is way better.

Or so one come up with someone who is a semi-professional comedian. Semipro. He's going semi-pro everybody. And the question Danielle or John the Baptist or this week's wringo asks is what would be the title of each of your individual autobiographies? John the Baptist. That's what your Dave's life work titled John the Baptist, the Dave Warnicky story.

That's confusing. And I love it. Mine would be, hey, I tried. Oh, that's nice. Maybe what would Dave's be? He could see he clearly can't come up with something. Golden tonsils. Yeah, go on tonsils.

Why do you have a title that I've been working on? Well, fucking why? Why? First question. If anyone would want to read your fucking memoir. First question, why? Second question. Why didn't you answer that in the first place?

Yeah. Because I went with the joke hands at first. Oh, you always does. Is that what it's called? This isn't for a memoir, but I've always wanted to call a show this. And it makes sense for a book. So why not call it this?

What? A war diary of an illiterate pacifist. What the fuck is wrong with you? There you go. That's quite a funny title to me. Why would an illiterate pacifist write a war diary? It makes you think. That's also in brackets.

Because it even won't get it otherwise. There's paragraph in brackets. Because I don't even want to get it otherwise. There's paragraph one sorted. Dave, can we be acknowledged in your book? In my ward, Iry. Yes. You certainly will be. You should call yourself Brigadier Wargate. I remember I brigadier major David James Wargate.

Please. Matt, you're tired? Yeah. Uh, genuine answer. Right now it would probably be Matt's book, but I don't want to lock into that. I don't want to lock in. That seems like something Matt would call his book.

Dry ginger male, obviously last year's show, title, maybe that would be. That would be good, yeah. I'm thinking, at the moment, my next year's show, which doesn't exist, I'm thinking about male comedian. Yes. How do you spell male?

Is that a genuine question, Dave? M-A-O-E. We went through this last year. I was thinking M-A-L. I was thinking, like, Rick M-A-L. I was thinking M-A-L. Because last year I was, I also asked the same question. I do remember asking that.

So yeah, I don't know what buddy. I'd love to, Danielle, you've probably, I mean, you came up with a better title for yourself. You'd probably would have come up with better book titles. I feel like it comes up fairly often anytime somebody, it's sort of the same when, you know, when we, I just hear a random collection of words and say that would

be a good band title. Sometimes I like to, like when people say something that sounds a bit funny, I'm like, well, that's the name of your book or something like that, you know? But I can't think of one right off the top of my head. I'd like to be in a film one day and then reference it, like total recall. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's good. That's so good.

It's such a good book. It's totally recalling his life. Well, I have a list of, um, of, like, potential show titles that I've kept. Oh, last few years. Give us a go. Let's see, I'm just finding it in my, uh, okay. Ha ha.

Perkins nine to five. Yep. Oh, that's great. Especially if it's like a, uh, work-based autobiography. Just we forget. I was suggested by Bob Franklin. That is pretty good.

Probably offensive. Yeah, I'm like, Bob Franklin suggests it. So I'm okay, was it? It's fine. Friend to the end. Malady. Malady. I think Malady is a bit funny.

Malady. But for now. Good jazz perkins story. Anyway, I hope that answers your question, Danielle. Bob, it's something, could be Bob and. It could just be Bob. Bob. Bob. Yeah, probably would be Bob. I like one word.

Yeah, Bob. Bob's good. Thank you. Bob. Yeah, I was talking about you. You're good. Bob's good. Bob's good.

How's Bob? Pretty good. Bob's good. Danielle, I was talking about you. You're good. Bob's good. Bob's good. Has Bob? She good. Bob's good. Danielle, I'm sorry. So that was an unsatisfying. I'm sorry to everyone who listened to that. Sure. I think that's fair.

But let's thank some people. What do you reckon? Let's startle Bob Franklin. That needs to be a segment on the radio. Let's startle Bob Franklin. And then callers would call in and try to start on him, and I'll say something like a fact or something, and then Bob Franklin will be like, oh,

yeah, that's pretty good. It was very rarely startled by them. I bet. Let's start, Bob, as a Tony Martin. That sounds about like something they bloody do. Very fun. Who'd like to go first? What are we doing with them Oh yeah. Now you're back in form this week. Some great train robbery. What are you thinking? What mode of transport would they rob? Yeah, okay. Okay. All right. If any of you go on to do these crimes, I don't want to hear that this was our fault.

No. And by me saying that there, I've just covered our ass. Thank you, Jess. We'll legally. Thank you, Jess. You're welcome, Matt. Dave, would you like to thank me? Because if you don't legally, you're back in the gun.

Yeah. Oh, no. I don't know. No comment. Yes. Yes. No, that doesn't. I plead to fifth. No comment. Yes. Yes. No, that doesn't. I played the fifth.

I'm bleeding the fifth. I'd love to thank if I could from Newsted in Queensland, which is a sub of Brisbane that has a great little brewery, the Newsted. brewery. I'd love to thank Anna Cox. Anna. Thank you, Anna. Thanks, Anna.

Anna, clearly, Anna. Anna, clearly, robbed a a canoe. A sea plane. Oh, sea plane, great. Oh, I love sea planes. I mean, I'd never go on one. They look terribly unsafe.

I've been one. Really? Yeah, I'm very cool. Why and where? I was in, uh, where was I, Queensland? And we went on a jet ski tour and it stopped at Little Island and the

sea plane captain was bored and he said, do you guys want to come for a quick joy for that? And we said yes. That sounds like magic. Obviously he charged just later, but it was still fun. Hold on what? Obviously he charged you later. It's right, but still sneaky. But we got to go for a little ride, and I felt very sick, but it was very fun. It was the landing incredibly rough? No, landing's fine. It was just that he was like, you basically flying along and then to go up,

which I think is a technical term. Yes. He just went, woo! They're like straight up and it was not good for this stomach. Well, like a rocket. Yeah, it was like a rocket. I was a spaceman for this stomach. Well like a rocket. Yeah, it was like a rocket. I was a space man for the moment. Was he by chance? Baloo the bear. Yes. That's funny that you will ask. That's the only C-plane I can think of if

and if it was from tail spin the Disney cartoon. Right, okay. That was a weird spin-off of jungle book where Baloo started flying planes. I don't remember. Have I made that all up? Thank you, my name is a weird spin off. It's a very weird spin off. Maybe I've made that up. Maybe it's not a spin off. Do you have a dream?

I have had a dream, yeah. I had a dream earlier today when I had a nap that two of my teeth fell out. It was not a good dream. I was like in a shopping center. If they were you with them, teeth that would have been really handy. That would be handy, because I'm going to have to get that done. If I could also think from McKinney in Texas United States of America Elizabeth Lafiva. Oh, that's nice. Lafiva. Are you when is that right? I love it. It's about a start singing again, which I will try and not do anymore.

Well, you should keep singing because I think it lives with Lafayla. Rob's Gondolas. Oh! Oh! And the moon hits your eyes like a big piece of pie. Just the time the saxophone again. Kiss, give me a lot of money. Gondola.

The great Gondola robbery. I got away with 38 euros. Thank you, Elizabeth. Is that how you would pronounce? It feels like a... Lefever. But Lefever sounds so good. Of course it does. I'm sure that's it.

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As I always say, how do I say a male? M-A-Y-A-D Y a double L. It's another Rick mail Can't have too many and I would like to thank from South Yerah We're lovely suburb here in Victoria in Melbourne Amy Gibbed Gibbed GI double B.D. Gibbed. Great name. Amy Gibbed. Amy Gibbed. Amy Gibbed.

She. Rob's A. Time machine. Sparbath. Was that movie cool? What time machine? No, like time machine Sparbus. What's it like a... Yeah, I love it. They redid it in Thailand. Yeah. Time traveling. Wow. Sparbus. Thanks Amy Gibbs.

I don't know why you're robbing that, but um... Yeah. Can I stay in the Jacuzzi too long? You'll get all pruny. Amy? Amy. Hopefully she did that in Australia where the notes are made up plastic, because if you did that

in one of the countries with paper money, they're gonna fall apart. Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I like to swim up bar here in Australia. Keep your wallet in your bathers, no prop. I mean, I got a big wallet and tiny bathers. Wow. Bags don't have pockets.

How scandalous. Oh, that was stupid. Anyway, I would like to thank May I, please? Please. I would like to thank from Columbia South Carolina. Now, do any of us know any facts about either North or South Carolina? Okay, I'm interested. Just said a lot of facts, so let's get a map.

Okay, yeah, okay. I mean, I've got quite a few. Love the Carolinas, both of them. But did you know Michael Jordan, let you do legendary, legendary basketball. Oh, that Michael Jordan, I was thinking of the other Michael Jordan. I was thinking of Michael B Jordan. No, no, I'm talking about air Jordan. I was thinking of Michael Jordan,

the one who's who, who inspired air bud, the dog. Yes. He went to a university and he used to wear university shorts and those shorts were made of magic, magic Johnson somehow, right? Okay. Which is a new fabric of the time. But they shorts had such power that when he went into the NBA, basketball, uh, association, national. He continued to wear those shorts, made a magic,

all the way to the top. That's a fascinating fact. Where did you hear that? To be honest, I heard that from a little documentary called Space Jam. I've heard of it and I've heard good things. Yeah. Me too. Okay. Can I thank the person down there? Yeah.

Well, I mean, no, people wouldn't know anything about North or South Carolina. We didn't put into context. Yeah, luckily. So from... I'm sorry about how all of the Carolinas have now been... ...highjected. ... been hijacked into North Carolina? I would like to thank from South Carolina. Sorry, South Carolina. David Berry.

The barren man. The barren man. David Berry. That's great. That's a great name. Another great name. David Rob Day. Ambulance.

Ambulance. Wow. Brutal. Organ donors. He steals the organs. They're very valuable cells in the black market But not a great guy No, but rich. Yeah, and some would argue that's the same as being a good person. I would argue that yeah I love cash cash. I love Berryman. I love berries. What's your favorite berry? Hmm raspberry boys and Barryman. I love berries.

What's your favorite berry? Raspberry. Boise and. Straw. Yeah. Now, boys and, boys and, like, a mashup berry. Boys and very ice cream. Holy shit, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And actually, I had some croissant waffles recently, because I'm 27. You won't start talking about them. They're so good, but they had the freshest raspberries I've ever eaten in my life. What? And I was like, I'm back on board the raspberry tree. Oh freshest raspberries I've ever eaten in my life. What? And I was like, I'm back on board the raspberry trying. Fresh raspberries, delicious. Yum yum yum.

Blueberry. No, not a big bloop. You know the bloop fan. I love bloops. You see bloops. Right in the room. Strops. Bloops.

Boys. Yep. Cran. Cran. Oh, I could take a leave at Cran. Yeah, big time. Where's your cranny, Granny? Don't give a fuck. Is the answer before you go on?

Yeah, great. Cran produced, though. From Ocean's play. Okay. I'm just going to thank the last person. Thank you. Even that, they're not still hanging around. Yeah, that's interesting to this.

From Los Angeles. Ooh, la, la land. Zack Gidding. Zack Gidding, that is a great name. He rubbed a horse. Yeah. A race horse. Zack rubbed a race horse.

Give me all your money. All your race money. Where is it? In the saddle bag. Dengus. It's not the horse started losing races, because it had to keep all its race money. Where is it? In the saddlebag. Dengus. That's why the horse started losing races because it had to keep all its prize money on it at all times. By the 10th race. He got involved with some pretty bad horses and they they were not friendly. They left their human head in his bed. Thank you Zach. Thanks so much Zach. Thanks everyone. Oh my goodness, what a great batch of people.

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Woo! Well, like I always say, that's a good money. You let us in and we killed you. I can't remember what your phrase was, is that it? I think it is. That's a good money. That's a good money. Well, we've got to go now.

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