Two In The Think Tank - 143 - Tommy Wiseau & The Room (with Naomi Higgins!)

Episode Date: July 18, 2018

This week we're joined by comedian, writer and dear friend, Naomi Higgins, as she tells us about one of the most infamous films in history - The Room. It is a ridiculous and hilarious mess! Report begins at 10.50Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out Matt's new podcast Prime Mates : https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/prime-mates/id1410556976  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You could start your new career in months, not years. Take classes online or on campus Visit PlanetBroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On My Name is Dave Warnke and as always I'm joined by Mats Shoeb and Jess Perkins. Hello. Hi Dave, Jess you're so happy just before. I was. Wasn't I? You were so happy. Now, Jess, before you complete that thought, I must say that as well as being joined by Matt and Jess,

we are also joined by a guest this week. Hello, Naomi! Hi! A.K.A. real Bob. I'm not kidding. Has that got anything to do with? Is that way you're in a bad mood? I'm not.

Before we went on air, we decided that Naomi is the new Bop. Naomi decided that. Naomi, and we agreed. Thank you. Radified. Jess, you're cool with that. You've never been Bop now. Cool.

All right, great. Naomi, how are you going? I was feeling great. Now I'm feeling a little anxious about the mood in the room. Nothing in particular, I don't know. Hey, is it possible that I can wrench, pop back off here and give it back to Jess? That's fine, I didn't want it.

I just wanted the attention. If you want to come with your own sweet nickname, we can totally go with that. OK. No, don't force it. Like something might come up through the report. All right, if something comes up and you're like, that's what I want to be called. You're going to fall your heart. You No, don't force it. Like, something might come up through the report. All right. If something comes up and you're like,

that's what I want to be called. Gonna follow your heart. You can't just force it. Yeah, thank you. I was feeling a bit sick. What about the four steps? Because it sounded like force at which Jess said, and I don't have a good imagination.

It's Naomi's choice to make. Yeah. I'm just throwing shit against the wall. Okay, was that what you want to be called? Yes. All right, great. Force ups it is. Well, that is a terrible nickname. No, but it what you wanna be called? Yes. All right, great, four steps it is. Well, that is a terrible nickname.

No, but it's what he chose. That's what he chose. Is it the thing that grips, it's like tongs for babies, isn't it? Yeah, it reminded me of childbirth when you said it. Yeah, great. Yeah. But not when anyone else.

I give up on you. Yeah. That's not very, I'm the childish man. Like a big hairy baby. Sure am. A goo goo go. Well, I fumbled on go go go. She's embarrassing. Okay you haven't formed both skills yet. Classic four steps. Yeah. That is the classic four steps. We all know and some of us love. I love it. Four steps. Sounds powerful. Yeah it does.

Sounds powerful. Yeah, it does. Ripping. Not like three-sips. Look. Give me four of them. Yeah. Oh, I get it now. I'm doing, but you went with it anyway. I appreciate that. No, I mean I get that's is that why they're forced it anyway. What are we? So Dave, do you want to explain the show? No, no, I mean, I hope you know what the show was about because you are an integral part of it this week, but just to remind you, hopefully, this show is all about list is suggested often topics, but maybe not this week because you are reporting where one of us gives a report on a topic and the other people in the room aren't aware of what the topic is going to be. And it is tedious to explain it isn't it? We're very excited to

have you on there. We've been talking about having you on as a guest for a long time, and you've been joking about a possible topic that you wanted us to do for a while. So I'm interested to see if you have brought that top again, or if you've gone with something else. Look, I've not done Flavor Flavor. Oh, I thought it was going to be Flavor Flavor. Flavor, for a long time, she was hassling us on Twitter. I was.

I put it up for the vote. It's in the hat. Did you really? Yeah. It did not get the votes. Did not poll well. Yeah, my friend bought me the autobiography of Flavor Flav. Oh! I started reading it in the eventual case that you would ask me to be on the show and I'd be like,

Ha-ha! Great! I have all the knowledge. Yeah. And then it was about him putting thumbtacks on his teacher's chair. And she's like, Ha, Ha, her ass sat on him and she was so mad. Ha, and I was like, I have to stop. Yeah, good call.

That's good writing. Well, why in the first place did your friend give you the autobiography? Had you expressed interest in flavor, flavor previously for them to be like, I've got the perfect gift. Yeah, he was my housemate and we watched the first two seasons of flavor of love, which was his reality show, like the Bachelor of the School. Oh my God. I did not know that existed.

And there's three seasons of it. Yes. And I couldn't, so season one, he ended up with a woman who then later dated Shaq. And then, and then he went back again, and then he chose a woman who I think was actually in love with him. So I couldn't watch the third season because I was like, this is just for the right

season. Oh, so it didn't work out. Oh, there were three seasons of it. Yeah. Someone at the end of every season. Yeah, one of the same. It's the same. That's right, it's the bachelor every time the same person.

That's it. What was his catchphrase or whatever? Like instead of a rose or... Was it a clock around the neck? Yeah, yeah. But you accept this clock? Yeah, he would literally get a mug. Oh my god, that was not going around.

That was not going around. That had to be. That is good, right? Like a full size clock. And he gave them all nicknames at the start of it because he just wouldn't learn that really. He couldn't remember their name. Yeah, but he could remember nicknames.

Yeah, well then he's like... He's a short red hair. He was short. Yeah. She wants his one and then delicious one season two. Oh. But you could remember nicknames. Yeah, well, then he's like, He's a short red hair. Who's short? She wants his one and then delicious one season two. Oh, don't know. Yeah, it was, I don't think I could watch it now. I mean, how is delicious easy to remember than Sarah?

Delicious is also just gross. What a strange thing to call someone. Oh, it was, how are you delicious? It was very gross. Yeah. Yeah, how does that an easy thing to remember? And whoops, was she like wearing a gear? She liked basketball. Oh, basketball. Again, she thing to remember and hoops was she like wearing she liked basketball

I'll basketball again. She ended up dating Shaq she did like basketball Yeah, she loved it Climb that ladder and delicious. She was a foodie foodie Right. Yeah, I would have called her foodie Instead of saying will you accept this row is some pretty sure he said you know what time it is Oh, I put the clock on I'm sorry if you didn't get it was it like you don't know what time it is. Oh, I thought the clock. Oh, I think the clock. I mean, if you didn't get it, was it like, you don't know what time it is?

Oh, shit. I can't remember how many of you said it. The clock has stopped. Your time is up. Yeah, that's, that's better. That would have been, that would have made far too much sense. Way too good for the show. Yeah, sorry.

So anyway, so you've been up doing an episode on Flavor Flav, anyway. Oh, well, that's a mini report there. Yeah, that's great. I still have no idea on Flavor Flavor anyway. Well, that's a mini report, Ben. Yeah, that's great. I still have no idea who Flavor Flavor is. Oh, he's one half of public enemy. Got it. Hype man, basically.

Oh, I love a Hype man. Well, woo. Yeah, great. I'm like that for this podcast. Yeah. In many ways. In others, not at all. What Matt was trying to get at Naomi is,

do you have a question to get us onto the topic? I do. That's unlike me, so you're already doing better. Thank you. I learned from your mistakes. The question is, what movie had a billboard running to advertise it in LA for five years? Oh, five years. That's too long, Lurican, because by that time, Lurican, they've probably seen it on VHS. What's a movie that could be out that long? Oh, Avatar was in the cinemas for a long time. But not five years, David.

No, Titanic was also in the cinema for a long time. Is that Titanic? No. It's funny, though, because it's a... Is it an episode on Titanic? Is it a big movie? Popular? I have, I think I know what it is.

It's the room. It is. Oh! Oh, shawty. I'm kidding. Honestly, I didn't know that fact about the room, but it's the only film that's ridiculous enough, and so on's bank crawling enough, that they would have built up a five-year spot. That's right.

Absolutely. Did they just... Yeah, me either. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it all disaster-out. No, I've been meaning to watch the room though. Yes, same. I came out of a radio spot a couple weeks ago

on the guy, like one of the main actors, not David Wazawa or whatever is him, is. Greg Sestero. Greg Sestero was coming in. spot a couple weeks ago on the guy, like the maybe the main one of the main actors, not David was all whatever his name is. Greg Sastro. Greg Sastro was coming in. Oh, what? Gary Sastro. Yeah.

Is that him? Greg. Greg. I think his name is Gary. I can say it's so weird. Greg. Greg. Greg.

Greg. Greg. Greg is still Greg. That's Greg. Yeah. As No, that's Craig. Craig is still Greg. That's Craig. Yeah. As you were so. And while I'll play, so I've got to go back in. So did you cross paths with that guy?

Did you? Well, I mean, sure, I touched him on the knee. Oh, was that off here? Yeah. Yeah, that was off there. Great. Well, that's fun still. You tell forever wonder what we were doing before the show started?

We were touching knees. Well, no. Just was dry. I was touching knees. All right, I'm really excited because it is a crazy film. Are you a big fan? They are of the film. I'm a huge fan. Yes. Of the film and the book. My favorite book. And the movie remake, docko mockumentary. It's really good too. Yeah, it's a movie. Movie, let's call it. It's a movie, Matt. Oh, you're really panicking now

Yeah, you know what we're like. Always panicking Very funny thing to say I'm gonna sue you I'll begin. Yes, please the room. This is cool. I wrote this, so I like, re-listen to the audiobook of my favorite book to like, make notes. So someone this is just like me writing. So is the book the book? The backpack check me, bitch. Is the book what the disaster artist was based on?

So when you say the book, the disaster artist. The book is called the disaster artist. Oh, that is actually what it's called, right? Yes, I mean, it was based on the book, yeah. Right, okay, cool, cool. Cool. Okay. I begin. Please. I don't know how these things go. So the room is a cold movie that's so bad

it's good. It's been dubbed the Citizen Kane of Bad Movies. The movie stars a man who also wrote directed, produced, and executive produced the whole thing. I'm the producer and executive producer. whole thing. I'm the producer and executive producer and junior. What is different? I think executive producer. That's the top dog. Right. But what do producers do? Everything. I ask that question. They do like everything. They organize locations. There's also people. Yeah. A bit people are also I think believe in film moneybased producers as well. So they help put up the money. Oh, yes, yep.

Are you, do you have a producer credit on your new show? God no. I panicked enough just acting in it as right. Yeah. So I imagine if I had any responsibility, I'd kill myself. Since he's such a mysterious man, the story is basically has to be told through his best friend Greg Sesterow. Sorry, Gary.

Greg. Matt, don't have a go? Greg, Greg, Greg. Greg. Greg. Yeah, we're good in there. Greg first encountered Tommy in an acting class in San Francisco. Did I say his name?

Tommy Wiseau is the mainstayman's name. The producer's last executive producer. Slash star, slash Rasha. Yes. Yes. Slash director. Slash director, I'm the mainstay, the star. The producer, Slush executive producer. Slush star, Slush Rasha. Yes. Yes. Slush director. Slush director, I'm so sorry.

Sorry Tommy. Slush Katera. Mr. Wiseau. Yeah, did he, was there anything he didn't do? He was also... There's a lot of things he didn't do. What? He'll get to it.

He was the best boy. What did they do? He was the worst boy. Yeah. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know. I forget. I don't know. the best boy does.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does.

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I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the best boy does. I don't know what the answer to the question I asked. How? Do you? God, I hate men. Yeah, I've got another one now. Well, I'm sorry that I'm sitting next to her on Best Boys. Been one my whole life. Yeah, you're the best boy.

That's true, I agree. Jess is on screen. She's not too fast about what people are doing. Oh, I don't deal with the crew. Yeah. You're talking about the talent. Yes, my dad look at me Don't touch my knee I love that song that you do

Thank you. This is like the first day I sit everyone down and I sing this introductory song So we're all the same page, you know, don't look at me. Don't touch my knee. I expect coffee for free Look at me, don't touch my knee. I expect coffee for free. She's so sweet. Me, it is. Normally, everyone's crying with the... Ah. Because it's a beautiful moment.

It's very moving. Yeah. Maybe she's not so bad after all. And then I fire six of them on the spot as a power play. Yeah. That is powerful. And I rehire them back three months later at half the pay.

Three months later, when the film is complete. Yeah, we have another job. Then I get in five from that job. I'm half the pay to work on my film. Can you just whisper and please, please come back. I'll pay you half. What a weird system, but I love how you can make your work. But it works.

It's not how you make your work. I'm the Mariah film. I'm so sorry Naomi, please go on. Thank you so much. Is that main Mariah? Yeah, like a diva. Okay, I got it. Oh my God. You got to say which Mariah you're talking about.

There's so many. Yeah, all right. Look, to be honest, I'm sure I'm going to think of another one, but there's go to be. Just letting Naomi go on, I reckon. I'm already so worried about the amount of words. I think you'll be fine. It still doesn't compare to a Warnocky report.

Well, I don't know. We haven't seen how many words you've got there. That's a lot. It's my passion. Don't judge me. OK. So Greg first encountered Tommy at an acting class in San Francisco in 1998 when Greg was 20.

And Tommy walked onto the stage looking like a pirate according to Greg. He has a description here, half comic book character, half hair metal icon, he wore black pants and ostentatious studded belts and gleamingly pearlescent button down shirt. Oh, gleamingly pearlescent button-down shirt. Oh gleamingly pearlescent! Mmm, you're words.

Yes. I'm name of my autobiography. I'd like to embellish. He swung a chair around and straddled it and then started performing a Shakespeare's sonnet. Yes. He had a thick not quite French accent and used the wrong tone for every single word. Mumbling and shouting. They just stopped him halfway through

to tell him what he was doing wrong and he got into a huge fight with her. Greg was impressed with his fearlessness and afterwards asked him if he'd like to do a scene together. Okay, so Greg's an idiot as well. Ah! Okay, can you sing that and be in line? I need to work with that guy.

Yeah, yeah. This guy is gonna be my best friend. Ah! It's a beautiful story, I need to work with that guy. Yeah, yeah. This guy is going to be my best friend. It's a beautiful story. Yeah. It's much like when I first saw you do a stand-up name except that you were talented and didn't fight anyone. You would say. Yeah, but you put the wrong tone on every word.

Very funny, but you're actually a lot. Yeah. Sounded awful. Should we explain who you are? Naomi, I don't know if we did that really, as why of introduction. Oh, yeah. It sounded awful. Have we, should we explain who you are? And I don't know if we did that really, as why of introduction. Oh yeah, good point. Okay.

Canadian and the writer. TV maker, friend, foe, new bot. Isn't that all right? When did you first meet? At a gig at Monash University. It was my third ever gig. Yeah, that would have been like 2015. Yeah, it was 2015.

Jess was there and she was so funny. Classic Jess. Classic Jess. It's back when I was funny and friends ever since. And you're now, so your show is going to be on the ABC TV? Well, I have a pilot. Your pilot, sure. Not a TV, so TV show. Making a pilot at the moment and just being edited, I haven't seen any of it. But it's a show.

My acting is terrible. It might just not make it. Yeah, well, I don't know. You'll get cut. That's still somehow make a story. I made myself a main character. But I'm willing to cut myself out. The executive producer has some bad news for you. It's me. And I'm cut. Yeah, it meant stewards in it for a hot sec. Yeah, one of the bloody pleasure that was. Wow, you look genuinely confused, then. Didn't you remember the tap? He does so much acting work. It all kind of blends into one for him.

Yeah, no, it was a real honor to work with the likes of Namy Higgins, Etowel. Appalachialon, stuff, yep. Yeah, no, it was great. I got to be a farmer, much recalling. Yeah. Someone tweeted me earlier today, said that I look like a nerd, but I'm not a nerd, and they said it's like a compliment. What do you think about that? I think this was a weird place to stop it.

I told someone, someone told me that I am a nerd, but I don't look like a nerd, and I thought that was much better than me. We should, we should switch. Yeah, you've got all the worst things about a nerd. None of the good stuff, like knowledge and, you know, yeah, abilities. Brittle. Anyway, just could find out on the internet. Won't be going on there again.

So I don't interrupt you now. Now I just wanted people to know. Yeah, you're right. We should have. What are you dealing with here? We should have done that a start. And yeah, we really have butchered this. Yeah, we've got one big shot with Nae Nae? Does that stop talking? Okay. Nae me?

Go on. I'd just like to point out that I'm not stopping you at Nae Nae for a nickname. Thank you so much. All right, we will continue to throw them out, you though. Great, please. So even though we had a thick, somewhat European accent, when us, where he was from, Tommy would just say he's American. Okay. Something to point out. They became friends and pushed each other

to strive towards their goals. And once took a spontaneous trip to the place where James Dean died. And actor, they both admired. That's fun. Greg told Tommy he wanted to move to LA to pursue acting further. And Tommy told him he rents a place in LA that Greg is welcome to stay at for very cheap rent So Greg went to stay in Tommy's apartment and got an agent Tommy would be obsessive about Greg often asking him what auditions he was doing among other things Greg's friend then took him to the movie called the talented mr. Ripley, which is about one man becoming obsessed with the other Spoiler alert for the movie. The Obsessive Man kills the other one at the end.

And Greg immediately recognized Matt Damon's Obsessive character as Tommy. He then took Tommy to see the movie, wondering if Tommy would recognize himself in Matt Damon. Tommy did not, but was captivated by the film and was inspired to write his own movie or play. That really, he got the wrong inspiration there. So what did you think of the film? inspired to write his own movie or a play. That really, you got the wrong inspiration there. So what did you think of the film?

It was great. I loved that Matt Damon guy. I love it. I love this film idea. I'm gonna make one. How long have these been around? Oh no. Tommy, is this the first film we've ever seen?

He's just yelling Shakespeare. Yeah, just, ah, um, nice, great. I love that Shakespeare quote. Ah, beautiful. God, what a word Smith. You've butchered it, though, man. I hit it wrong. Yeah, wrong tone on the wrong.

Yeah. Yeah, better. Yeah, you're getting it. That's beautiful. Thank you. That's why I go, yeah. Tommy eventually moved into his apartment with Greg and put up black curtains in the lounge room,

staying up, which is where he slept, staying up all hours of the night playing and repeating tapes to help him with his English accent, saying the same sentence over and over and over an hour. Do you know what the sentence was? It was something like, is that what you think do you? Or something like that? I'm like, is it just quite think do you? Or something like that? I'm thinking, is it quite makes sense?

Nothing that you even need to be able to say. No. Is that what you think do? Yeah, so there is the outing at 80 times. I'll go to that. Oh, exciting. Oh, hello. You have a mystery, a bit of sizzle.

Eventually, Tommy finished a novel called The Room and presented it to Greg. I'm thinking to say eventually he finished the sentence. Is that what you think to you? John. Big finish. 80 times. And it all comes back together. It's one of those great sentences where you don't know where they're going to the end.

And it's like, oh yes! John, it was John all along! Oh, amazing. What about work? It was worth it. Uh, Neh-Haw. What? Nickname, Neh-Haw.

Neh-Haw. On what? Why? What does that mean? I've taken some letters out of your names. Have a note. Who's Neh-Haw? What's your name again?

Higgins. Higgins. Is what you're going for there. Yeah, I can't't. No, I get it now, but it's stupid. Sounds like yay high. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, not. No, not. That's not me. I'm not even salt, because I'm sure. Please allow me to veto this one on your behalf. Thank you so much. Keep him going, man.

So it's my production assistance. Yeah, that's a great. An assistant, I don't think it's going to be a fucking producer. Slash producer, that's great. And a system, I think it'd be a fucking producer. Slash producer maybe? Yeah. So you just said so he's completed a novel. So he wasn't writing a script, was he writing like a novel? Well, it's not clear because I think it did say it was a play, but then it will be like, opens with a panning shot of San Francisco. That's the best. That's the best. I mean, how are we gonna do that in this 45-seat theater? Oh, the director will do something. We're gonna make that.

Pan San Francisco. That's so good. It's written very clearly. Yeah. Good on him. Yeah. It was 540 pages long. That's too many.

Whoa. It's also the length of my report. What a coincidence. God, she's true to her form. I love it. Thank you. Alright, what a wonder. It was about an all-American man, Johnny, who has a best friend named Mark.

He had a beautiful, he has a beautiful girlfriend named Lisa, and Lisa and Mark have an affair. Tommy would play Johnny, a man who is perfect, but consistently being wronged. Um... Tommy was perfect. He really is. Um, Tommy wanted Greg to play Mark, but Greg was insistent that he stayed behind the camera since he didn't want to be seen in the movie. It's worth noting here that Greg believes that when Tommy named the character Mark, he was misremembering Matt as in Matt Damon.

So Tommy saw Greg as the Matt Damon character in the talents of Mr. Ripley. I love that Mark Damon. Oh my God. He's incredible. Oh, we were only just begun. They started pre-production with Greg helping out. From here, Tommy talked about the producers when explaining any weird decisions he'd made. This is what the producers want, etc.

The truth here is that there were no producers. Tommy was financing the film himself. He had a lot of money and didn't like to talk about how he got it. Okay. Yep. That's good. Yeah, that's... I like that.

That's a producer right there. If I had... If I had... Heaps of money. I'd also finance films of my own. Yeah. I reckon I would too. But I would pay very talented other people to make me look good. You know what I mean?

I guess the thing with Tommy is that he is talented, so he didn't need to pay other people. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, well, you waste the money. When do you get to the bit where he's talented? Okay, well, because so far he's just yelled some Shakespeare for a bit. Oh, yeah, no, sorry, I forgot that bit. But it's also practice one sentence, remember? Yes. So he stradled a chair.

Yeah, like a cool English teacher. It's good stuff. I've lost my voice. I'm so sorry. Yeah, um, tell me what true cameras, one 35 millimeter and one HG is a strange for two reasons. One, no one, even huge production companies ever bought cameras. Everyone rents them. He decided to buy. Sure. The other thing is that you don't shoot in HD in 35 millimeters. You just shoot in one because you don't do two different ones. Yeah. But Tommy insisted, so they had to make a rig that had the two cameras sit next to each other,

shooting on both of them simultaneously with two lighting systems and two crews. That's smart. So he was in a lot of ways thinking outside the box. Well, yeah, people were like, no one does this and he's like, then we'll be the first. Where, yeah, is it genius or is it the opposite of genius? I think it's always a fine line of genius, isn't it? It is, it really is. Too early to call, as a safe.

Yeah, we need more information. Yeah, I reckon generations will pass before we know for sure. Yeah. I'm leaning towards genius. Yeah, me too. Dave. Taking an early punt. What are you leaning towards? I did ask you put a YouTube ad today that was a

Hans Zimmer talking about his master class that he's selling. And I said, the only way, if you see a rule, you've got to break that rule, because that's the only way that any form can move forward. Breaking rules. Yeah. And that's what Tommy's doing. So I think genius.

Put it to Hans Zimmer. We've called it early. It's four votes are genius. Yep. Great. Well, we're all on the same page That's great. That's how this works out. I think positively. You're gonna love this guy Okay, so okay here we go Genius, let's read this next paragraph Oh god, the auditioning process was bizarre. There was a bed in the audition room. Always good. Actresses would come in and once they found out that Tommy would be playing the male lead

most left. When he was auditioning, he would yell stuff at them like, your sister just became lesbian. them like your sister just became lesbian. Or your mother just die. Yes, good. How does he know those things? Is that why most of them are leaving? Because you hear that kind of news you need to, you need to, you need to move your family. Your sister became lesbian.

Like she chose so ignorant on me. And it's not changing. I think this happens over time. Yeah. You know, he's like, oh, oh, well, there it is. That's really. But I don't have a sister. Yeah, I do, I do have a sister.

Did she became lesbian? Yes, very recently. Oh, congratulations. So this is kind of, blow my mind, he is a genius. Maybe it was like a work test and you had to behave positively and if you said you were sad about it then he's like, get out.

Yeah, great. He's pretty woke. Worked. That's why he has a bed and yells at him. You haven't found the bed yet? Or do I not want to ask? He would make the women make out with him because the movie would have six scenes. So basically the only women who were in the room were the women who didn't quit.

So you're looking at some very strong people, right? To put up with him. Strong willed. Strong willed people to put up with him. Tolerant. Yes. Yeah, people who really wanted to make it. Wow.

He's a good dude. I was reading it the other way. Matt, don't give up on the guy you called a genius second to go. That's true. I'm sticking fat. OK, a woman called Juliet Danielle was initially cast in the role of Michelle Lys' best friend. It was silly name, isn't it?

Juliet Danielle. Yeah, which one's your first name? First one. Yeah, but Juliet Danielle's not a... That's but... Yes. Juliet, Danielle's not a... That's a good rule of thumb. Danielle's not a surname. No. It's another first name.

Anyway, she should have changed. There's a stage name. I imagine that that is her stage name. Yeah, I think I was talking to her with a media page there with three names. Oh, so unbelievable. Someone's probably already registered in the screen act as guild her real name, so she had to go with the fun. Finally, I'm sorry that I'm the only one outraged by this stupid name.

As a person with two first names, you know, I think that's fun. I think people can do that if they want to. Sailor V, you know what I mean? Just like that Irish group saying once upon a time. Bewitched. Thank you. Sailor V! God, hee-caught. It's a good song. Then it goes into like a fiddle solo. It's very good.

Anyway, please continue. The woman cast as Lisa. The lead wasn't right for the part. She was supposed to be an all-American girl, but had a very thick foreign accent. So Julia ended up being cast as Lisa. So the role of Michelle was then recast to a woman called Brianna Tate. One of the oldest members of the

cast was Philip Haldemann, who played Denny the youngest character in the script. And Denny was kind of this like, sun figure for Johnny, but it wasn't really ever clear who he was. He just kind of lived in the same building which is show up out of the house all the time. Right. So this made him walking in on Johnny and Lisa's pillow fights and trying to join in creepy and not sweet

as Tommy had probably intended. Hahaha. Why is he in the bedroom? He was is a pillow fight a euphemism or they're actually adults having a pillow fight. Oh there's no euphemism. Why is there a pillow fight in the film? I think it was supposed to be full play. Kid. Yeah. Works for me. Then they'll like, please leave. Oh, Danny. Oh, well.

The character of Mark was given to a man called Don, who Tommy didn't like very much. Good. So give him the role. Before shooting started, Tommy offered Greg a lot of money to play Mark. Greg mentioned that Don probably wouldn't be happy, but Tommy said they just wouldn't tell him

and would just shoot the scenes twice. Ah! Ah! Using the excuse that the producers wanted to see Greg for something else. But they wanted to see Greg in every scene. That's incredible. So yeah, so they just reshoot scenes with Greg.

And I think, I don't know if I've written down, but at some point Don was like, what's going on? Oh, that's so good. It'd be really good if it took Don a really long time to figure it out too. Like I think we'd probably twig pretty quickly, but I'd like to imagine it was like the last day, and he's like, hang on a second, or six months later. Yeah, at the premiere. Yeah, he's like, hang on. He watches the whole thing, he's like, that was great.

That was great. Wait a second. That was mine. That wasn't me. Oh my lines. Yeah, cut. But my lines remain. Yeah. That doesn't happen. The lawns, they remain.

But the dawn, he is gone. Dawn talks about himself in third person. That's why I got cut. I couldn't tell the dawn that he was cut. Okay, on the first day of filming, Tommy was four hours late. Yep. After two hours, Greg went to his house to go get him and found him inside dying his hair black. His hair is always black, by the way.

I think he was just doing his roots on it. Show. Just mid-dine his hair. When they finally got to set, Tommy started yelling at the crew for not not being ready He ended up being about four hours late every single day. Oh my god. He dies here every day Not every day four hours is so long. It's a really long time. That's a huge amount of time I think what could you be doing in that time? I can't think of something that would take me four hours a nap It's not a nap. that's asleep at that point. Ha ha ha ha.

Breaking what he was doing was not given a fuck. Yeah, like a rad dude. I like that you think you woke up one time, and then it's like, now we'll have a nap, rather than slept in. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. I see if he woke up with plenty of time to get to work early.

Um, and then he just went about some other activities. I love these four hours late every day, but he doesn't think to reschedule the time to be. Yeah, just... What does it start at 12 every day? No, no. I'm paying you to be there for me. Yeah. Well, yeah, and everyone had to be there for me. Just think Casey turned up. In Casey turned up.

In the scene. Yeah. Even if you're not in the scene. And I think only the costuming girl, if my memories are, Just in case you turn up. In case you turn up. Yeah. Even if you're not in the scene. And I think only the costuming girl, if my memories are, she would just show up late as well. She was the only one who sort of got the hang of it. I just was just like, fuck it.

Yeah, I'd fuck it. I'd turn up whenever. I'd wake up on time. I don't think you'd go, Jess. Yeah, I shouldn't go. Are any of the other actors and whoever, like, talented, would they be, or they were sort of pretty desperate for work, so they were...

I think everyone's desperate for work in LA. Right. And this is a feature film. Yes. Many Academy Award nominees. Three? Right. Yeah.

Or number. There were nominees in it. It was a high quality crew. Cuff. That was a joke, funny. That Naomi picked up on and went with, she yes ended. Yeah, not any. If you roll back, let's say, if you'll notice that I was continuing to do that as well.

Oh, okay. None of us knew. Yeah. That's how good you are and I'm going to present you with an Academy Award nomination. Thank you very much. Congratulations everyone, we did it. We did it. It's our first feature. Thank you so much. Good. The set was not a great environment. Interesting. Tommy had his own private toilet installed in the studio. I like the queen. But the put up a curtain instead of a door.

What the fuck? He's the strangest person ever. And there was a toilet right nearby. Yeah, much like the queen. Classic queen. She's always putting up toilets and no doors. Yeah. Why did he do that?

Because he wanted to feel important, I think. Yeah. I don't know why he put the camera on that. But not important enough for a door. Well, how important you feel when you're going to the toilet and at any moment people could bust in. Pretty important, I guess.

Or a light breeze could reveal everything. I think I'm confusing with feeling of extreme anxiety with the feeling of importance. Wow. But they're both a big rush. I think you were sure. True. For sure, for sure. Wow. They're both a big rush. I think you were sure. Great. For sure, for sure.

Wow. To risk. Incredible. Tommy refused to pay for air conditioning. So the studio was always too hot. And he also refused to pay for water for the cast and crew. The cast and crew eventually got into a fight with him about it.

And he threw a water bottle at Brianna's head. Good. Yep. Go playing Michelle, saying nobody in Hollywood will give you water. So I think I think literally anyone in Hollywood would you would get water. Something you fundamentally misunderstood. I mean, he bought two cameras. He would buy water.

As he said, he was giving her water and a very violent way. Sure, but he did do it. Yeah. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Yeah. I'm not giving you water as I throw a water bottle at you. Yeah, generally he was really really tight with his money, but unless he wanted to spend it on a toilet.

On a toilet only he can use. Maybe the curtain makes more sense. Like, that's why it's weird that he was, yeah, so he'd be weird with money. I want this, I'll spend a lot, but then cheap out on this weird last detail. Is that what it was? That is real fun.

I wonder what catering was like. I don't have that in for me. Probably minimal, I assume. I think that was actually not. At least I think that was hard to explain that. I was supposed to draw it. You're gonna say, I was gonna say, saucerola, I was gonna say, one saucerola for all of you. I reckon that feels right.

Look at us. If boys would think that then it's true. That's how history works. Dave, what were you thinking? Actually, to be completely honest, originally I thought pasty and that's because I don't eat meat. Why do you lie? No!

I've never felt like a trade. No, it's fake to that big moment. Can I finish your sentence? No, I was thinking chicken roasts. Chicken roasts. Like he was putting on massive meals but he just wouldn't give you water. It seems like something he would do. No, but he's giving you really salty food so they're

all very thirsty, but he won't give them water. He's also giving them laxatives, but then they can't use the toilet. It's a control freak. Yeah, it's a power play. Everything's a power play with him. Directors. Oh, what are they like? So after they, after he threw a water bottle at Brianna's head, Brianna and several other cast members quit. Michelle was then recast as a third woman, Robin Paris. Carolyn Minnow, who played Lisa's mother, ended up fainting at one point because of the

heat and the lack of water. Oh, Jesus. So these people have quit. She didn't quit. No, but so some people have quit like are they they actors? Sorry you said some of the actors quit. Yeah, I'll do you have to refill them there bits as well I mean he already was refilming them to He's got back up every role

Do you just got Greg playing every day? He's got himself playing everyone. We're so in sync here today guys playing every other thing. I was gonna say he's got himself playing everyone. Come on, we're so in sync here today, guys. Oh, no. The first thing, exactly the same thing. I was thinking that a sausage roll would play. Oh my god, a callback. It's up to 30 seconds to come.

Yeah, remember that? Guys. I don't. I was just thinking about sausage rolls. I'm always thinking about sausage rolls. Not pasties? Oh, pasties. Pasties.

You're a complicated person, both of you. I really am. I like it, you guess. The crew would build sets such as an alleyway, as Tommy was on set using, as Tommy was set on using Hollywood production techniques instead of just filming in an alleyway that was right nearby. Incredible. They built the alleyway in an alleyway.

It's like an inch. It's all an inch out from the actual. They just brick over brick. So they're doing a Hollywood baby. Tommy would often change his mind being the crew would break down sets only to have to rebuild them the same way the next day. Oh. Oh.

Oh. He sounds like a nightmare. A nightmare, but also you're getting paid, I imagine, so you like them. But he was tight with the checks. Oh, okay. They often had to complain to get paid. Oh, okay.

You know, I would just stick around. Why? For the fun of it. People in Hollywood stay pretty desperate. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be losing confidence in the quality of the end product as we went along. Oh, yeah, or they think and he's a genius who works from serious I think a lot of people thought this would never be finished. Yeah I'll never see the light of day. Yeah, yeah, here we are. Here we are

Talking about a bloody podcast. He's made it. He'll hear this. Erkeny's got Google at tell himself for sure. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Hey Tommy. Hi.

What's up? What do you think of pasties? Yeah man. For the many rooftop scenes in the movie, the crew built a rooftop set with styrofoam and a green screen behind it in a parking lot. There was a little shed that kind of looked like an outhouse that was supposed to be the entrance to the roof, but it doesn't make physical sense and characters basically just appear from nowhere.

So it was basically like a tiny shed and they just kind of have to stand in one corner of it and sort of bend down and then just pretend they're coming upstairs. I know what you're talking about and I can picture that and I never really, but yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, but they're coming from something so tiny. Like a little shed. Yeah. Wait, so you did see it? No, I've just seen like in all the previous for the disaster

at us. I know the scene. Well, let me talk about it. Tommy had to do a scene where he emerged from the shed, walked out onto the roof and said, I did not hit her. It's not true. It's bullshit. I did not hit her. I did not. Oh, hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. To Mark who was on the roof. He couldn't get his blocking. He couldn't stop at the right spot. He couldn't remember his lines. And he wrote. And he wrote.

He wrote the whole thing. He couldn't look at Mark when he was supposed to be saying hi to him. This went on for hours until Tommy gave, until Greg gave Tommy a bottle of water and said show some emotion. Which Tommy was like, yes, that's why I have you around. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha They eventually got the shot which took three hours and 32 takes. It's seven seconds long and was the second day of filming. Faaah! And if you watch it, it's still not good. It's terrible.

Terrible. And that was the best one. That was the best one after three hours. That's amazing. Oh, hi Mark. One of the best performances in the room is said to be that of the drug dealer called Chris A played by Dan Oh no Jan Jiggyin

Dan Jan Jiggyin. I've not pronounced that correct. There's a no no in there so Dan Oh no, Dan Jiggyin. Jan Jiggyin. It's a great name. That's a great name. I hope you're pretty sure. I hope a great name. I hope you're right. I hope that's what we're calling him. Dan Jan. Dan Jan Jan again. Ah. This performance. Has he gone on to other things? I'm the name rings a bell. We all know it. Wasn't he in the Lion King? Yes. First maybe I could think of as the Lion King. Just voice acting in that one. Yeah. Still important. I'm not knocking voice acting.

In an animation film, yeah, I would say it's pretty important. Hmm? What's he playing the body of Pumbasie? Ah, okay. He's drawn. They drew Pumbas. There, I said it. But I'm glad someone said that because that was the elephant in the room. Yeah.

Let's pump a drone. Yes, he bloody wants to see. He was. I'm sorry. He was. Thank you. Convincingly, yes. Sorry, HIGGO.

HIGDOG. HIGDOG, like PIGDOG. That's me. That's not a great one. Hey, Matt took that to a main place. I was thinking, thinking like hot dog. Like I like that. Hot dog. No hot dogs like the guy from Big Brother. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Was that what it is? You like hot dogs? Yes. I'm so happy. What a cool dude. I know I like being cold hot dogs as an homage to hot dogs.

I like hot dogs. I hate hot dogs. Working title. Working nickname. That's an homage. One of Matt's favorite words. Hot Dog's Higgins. That's pretty fun. I didn't say Higgins. I'm half anating it. But it's up to you.

Okay. Can I only do what I could do? Alright, I'm the name Whisperer. It has a certain... Oh, what do you say? What about a hot dog Jan Jiggy in oh there it is there is clocking off Bye everybody hot dog Jen Jiggy Hot dog Jen Jiggy in is here with you in the house

That's good nicknames, please Please, welcome to the stage. Hot Dog, Jan Jiggy. That's a big compliment. Presenting the Gold Logi. Yes. Hot Dog, Jan Jiggy. Yay. Yay. I feel it.

Yeah. I can see it. God, yes. You can see the lights. You're going to be on the cover of upwards of three magazines. Wow, wow. TV, which? Shout out to you. That's what I was. New idea. See? Get out of my magazines. Wow, wow. TV win. Oh, that's what I was thinking.

New idea. See? Get out of my head. See? It's happening. Oh, I was gonna say TV weekly, because I forgot the name. Oh, that's a Hunter and Hound magazine. What's that? It's like a...

Is that for men? Horsenhand? Horsenhand. I watched Notting Hill last night. That's from that movie that I haven't seen. Have you? Oh my God, you must. It's good you oh my god you must it's good really? It's Curtis. It's good. Yes. Is any problematic now easy? Don't tell me that everyone not he feels good

I just not mean just some of it. Why don't anyway? Okay, but what's that movie wrote about the Christmas people's side now every Christmas On this I'm actually I'm actually about that bean. Oh sure. I love that movie. It's terrible Yeah, enjoy it on a tour, what a rollercoaster, that sentence was. Don't write a blog about it, just enjoy the bad, bad bits. No. Same goes for this podcast.

Don't write a blog about it. I'd love you to write a complimentary. Yeah, I'm only positive compliments. You shred us, love it. Don't. I love those negative compliments, we don't want those. I also like to point out that Matt is saying shredder. Steve and I do not stand by those things.

Please don't shred me. I'm very delicate. I am sent. Hot dog. Hot dog, ginger again. What a name. Love it. I'm so happy for you.

Thank you. I'm really happy for myself. Hey hot dog. Please go on. Thank you. Please go on. So we're talking Chris, a man who is not an dog. Yeah. Please go on. Please go on. So we're talking Chris, a man who is not an actor. Okay. He's a he was the best performer. Best

performance. But was he a drug dealer? No. So it wasn't even method. Can you be drug dealer? Yeah. I can. Um, there's a scene where he would confront the man child, Danny, and ask for his money with a gun. So Danny just sort of appears with a drug problem, is that my- Sure, I'm a third. If you said that, another way would be meth-ode. Oh. And that's right. What does it mean though?

Oh. It probably makes more sense than the actual script. Yes. It's just like the air was taking out the room. That moment was spooky. Oh. Oh. Oh.

So that's what I do when I'm scared. Oh. Turkey. Yeah. Pretend to be a turkey. That's in a bear attack. That's what they always say. Yeah, the terrified of us. that's in a bear attack. That's what they were saying the terrified of it

It's like it's like elephants with mice. Yeah bears terrified of turkeys And ghosts as well. Yeah ghost turkeys. You have seen a turkey. Yeah I am scary Yeah, I seen a video of a guy in the car Next to a field of turkeys and he goes, oh, they all go, oh, back in him. It is probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen. That sounds like the best video I've ever seen and I haven't seen it.

I've ever just watching and I'll repeat. You know, when you're just like finding something so funny, you just keep watching it. I was crying. Yes. Oh, so good. Please check it out. I'm going to. I'm going through it. I'll send it to all of you separately later.

Please separately. I don't want a group chat. No group chats. I'm so going to leave it in the year and it'll come up and it'll get so mad. People leave dead groups. Why do they do that? That's true. Yeah, true.

If the conversation's still going and you're like, this is tedious, leave. But if it's already over, I'm like, I got an archive, my old Facebook group chats. I don't want to include that one. Coming up if I scroll down for 10 years. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, I'm scared. Scared my mole. Oh, I don't know why I'm scared. I don't know why I'm scared. I don't know why I'm scared.

Yeah, but next time you'll stress about something, let me know, and I'll just send you a little video of me. Oh, I thought you were going to send the video that made you laugh, but none of. No, no, me. You're just a sin, you. I'm all hyped, I'm sorry. No apologies, please.

Never apologize. Never apologize. I think we were talking about the... That's it, the'm sorry. No apology, please. Never apologize. I think we were talking about the safe house. No apologies. I think you all kind of voted me an apology because you all quite mean to me earlier. I am really sorry about that. Thank you. Hot dogs. Jan Jiggyin. Hot dogs, I think you're talking about the drug dealer. Take the guy back to her. Yes, I'm so sorry, yes. That felt really genuine.

Just surprise. All right. The mic's the one. Yes, I'm so sorry, Jess. That felt really genuine. To my son, Jiggy. Can I? What? I said the mic's so on Jiggy. Anyway. So, yeah, we're at Chris Arth scene, Dan, stating character the whole time he was on set. Now, if you've seen the movie, you would know he's very aggressive. Right.

He's method. He was just walking back and forth, muttering into himself and yelling at people. Now if you've seen the movie you would know he's very aggressive. Right. He is method. He was just walking back and forth, muttering to himself and yelling at people. The scene took two weeks to shoot and goes for 90 seconds. Oh my God, he was muttering for two weeks. He was muttering into himself. For two weeks. And it was pit.

And it was armpit. That's how they do it. He'd mutter into anything. Oh no. Postatic. I only mother into the best of the best. Gotta have standards when you're mother. Um, her mother. At least her or Cam granada.ada. There's a sentence reference excellent. Great. We got the quota.

So two weeks for 90 seconds that is not a good, that's not a good, race, race, not a good race. Everyone's money and time. Dangerously close to the word race, which is what I heard. Greg had to talk Tommy out of including an extension of the Chris R fight scene where Johnny's Mercedes Benz would ascend from the rooftop and fly into the night sky Exposing that Johnny is actually a vampire What's he gonna do for? I don't know. They were on a green screen

You can do anything That is brilliant. So that's not in the original script. He on the fly was like, bang, got a great idea. I'm a vampire. I don't know, but I'm going to say that it probably was. It's it's.

You had to talk him out of it because no one's actually read the script. It's so long. They get to the page and go, Oh, no, we're not doing that. How long does the movie go for? Is it long? It's not that long. Okay, so it's just like a normally. I think it's like 90 minutes or something like that. Okay, it's not like 9 hours, like it should have been. Yeah, well, it's not thinking with the number of pages he's written. It definitely was like a script after the initial, like, novel. The novelised version. And iconic line for the movie is Johnny Yalling, you're tearing me apart Lisa. In the script, the line is written as you

are taking me apart Lisa. And only Greg knew that Tommy was trying to copy a line from Rebel Without A Cause where James Dean says you are tearing me apart. So Greg got him to change it. Because otherwise he would have just said, you are taking me apart. But thought that that was it. Like he named Mark after Matt. By accident. Amazing.

You're taking me apart. Doesn't quite make sense. No. What does it? No, it doesn't. And he often forced them to say the words exactly as he had written them. There's one scene where Greg's character has to say, leave your stupid comments in your pocket. And he was like, can I please say

something else? That doesn't make sense. You're taking me apart, would made sense of it was like a Lego figurine, maybe? Yeah. So the big times would be. That's possible. Yeah. Yeah.

He's also a vampire. Right. What's... Lego vampire. It looks like a vampire. He's very vampiric to be fair. Yes. He's a vampiric man.

He stays up all the hours of the night. Yeah, no, he wakes up when he's supposed to. And then does activities. Obviously, craft hits the gym. Was the role was undead to play? Does that make sense? It's a thought I had and I thought I'd say that word. Loved it.

Over the top of Jess, which was a nice start. Also, it was not worth saying out loud. No, I loved it. Can you add to that bit out, please, Jess? Absolutely not. Fuck. In fact, repeat it when I'm not talking. Now go.

Come on. I was the role he was on dead to play. Fuck, I loved it. Ha ha. Ah, no. Love it all over again. Oh, you're taking me apart, Matt. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

See, it can make sense. Yeah, when you put the right tone on the words. Ha ha ha. It is such a great love, though. It's telling a great love. It's very dramatic. How many takes it that take? Oh I think quite a few. And it's good? No it's so bad. It's filled with emotion. It's fantastic. He's always looking for more emotion. It's so many emotions. I don't know what's taking me so long to watch this. I gotta watch it obviously. Would you say it's worth watching? Knowing all the... Oh wait, it's so good. Okay, you wouldn't just watch the the remake thing. Well that's about the making of the film. Right. I think it probably helps to see it first

so doesn't it? Yeah I think you enjoyed my time.. Do you think it's a movie you can watch by yourself, or should you watch it with other people? With other people, I would watch it by myself. But maybe the first viewing? I think I like bad stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. First viewing, I think you got to watch it with other people. It's just good to experience it with other people, you know?

Because otherwise, when I'm watching something that's so bad, it's good. If I'm by myself, I find it tedious and frustrating. I can say that. I can see you getting very annoyed. But if I'm with somebody else and we can sort of laugh about it together, I'll be fine. Yeah. The first time I watched it with a few friends and it's very fun. Well, I'm with a few friends right now.

So busy. Yeah, no, yeah. So sweet. Sorry. I'm fine. It's OK. Joke is that you're off to catch a plane after this old cat's turn up. And I've got nothing on. Anyway, one scene has Lisa admitting to her mother

that she's cheating on Johnny. In the script, it says that Lisa is talking to Claudette over the phone with the scene ending with Lisa walking Claudette to the door and saying goodbye. Yes. I don't see a problem there. What the fuck is wrong with him? Oh, that's great. Greg couldn't get him to change that bit. It's like, no, no. No, I need this. It's brilliant.

Johnny, then, here's the conversation by listening to their answering machine, which has magically recorded the conversation. What? That's all her answering machine's work. The team tried to convince Tommy that this didn't make sense and they eventually decided on him over hearing Lisa and Claudette's conversation from a stairwell. And then why are tapping their phone using a tape recorder to find proof?

They asked Johnny White. They asked Tommy why Johnny needs proof if you just heard her say it, but he wouldn't budge. This is great. Please in order to know that I'm budge. He's got two, you know, that own bud. He's got a vision. Hans Zimmer, break those rules. Yeah, break those rules, Hans Zimmer style.

Did he have his Zimmer frame? Yes, one of his many inventions. Yes, that was a, yeah, it was a film technique of his. He did a frame. Yeah, and a bench. He did a plot. That frame happened to be of a walking device and then you know Long story short old people walk again. Thank you mr. Zimmer

Amazing the more you know Don't worry about it you two don't look surprised by that, but I'm very She's so old he just comes up with these things sometimes He just knows. We find it's best to just smile a nod. Yeah. Maybe the review was smiling. He'll zone out eventually.

That's probably the third or fourth time I've heard him tell that story. We usually edit it out, but we'll let it go on this time. What are you guys talking about? Yeah, there we go. And he's back. Hi. Hi. Very good.

Who are you? What are you? What are you doing here? This is Hot Dogs. Don't touch my knees. This is an audio form. You got to make it clear that that has not happened. There has been no knees have been touched during the creating of this podcast.

So far. And I'm mad about it. Touch it. Touch it. She's talking to me. Touch it. Touch it. I've got jeans on. Yeah, that's what's really bugging me off. I don't like denim. Ah, right, I touched her name. All right, please continue. Much, much noblier than I thought. I got noblier little knees. The team told Tommy that no one uses a tape recorder to wiretap phones.

Because he was sure. Greg found out years later that Tommy used to record all of his phone calls on a tape recorder, which is why he wrote it into the script. People don't do that. Yes, I do that. This is my experience. Thank you so much. That's strange.

Greg asked him why he did this. So Greg found the tapes at his house. And was like, why do you do this? And tell me said that he was practicing his American accent by listening to Greg's accent. Greg is still not convinced of this. Oh my God, Paul Greg. I could get out of there, Greg.

In the film, you see the recorded conversation that happened, as it happens between Lisa and Mark on the phone, where she says that she's cheating on him, and then you see it played back by Johnny on the tape recorder. The two conversations are different. She's going to get the audio, that's so easy. It's so easy. In the script they're different. So instead of copy-pasting the conversation, he just breathed in. Wrote a different one. And they're markedly different as well, it's not minor.

So you're turning the script back four pages and looking at what you wrote yesterday, he does not have to freeze stuff. Brilliant. I think this is what I wrote. Breaking rules. Yeah. This is a general context. Amazing.

Amazing. Anything goes. Anything goes. I don't know how that goes. Well, anything goes. That's true. That's me. I'm hot dog.

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but it turned out that he was watching the tapes every night when he got home to see what people were saying about him, mostly laughing about his poor acting, which might explain why he was so late every day, because he was up till the early hours of the morning. So he spends eight hours on set, then goes home and watches eight hours of him on set. I hear the strangest person ever. So if ever anyone said anything bad about Tommy, it was caught by the guy filming him. Do they not know that or do they just not care? Probably a bit of both. I imagine people probably were saying not nice things

about them too. They were mostly laughing at him. Yeah, or complaining that he wouldn't give them for money. For the job they're doing. Yeah. The film ended up having three different directors of photography because they kept quitting due to poor conditions

and not getting paid on time. And the thing about D.O.P.s is their crew goes with them, so it was like three whole different crews. Fuck. Very good. So there's a lot of consistency then. In people quitting, yes. Yes. Brilliant. Wow. Look, Jess, the only consistency is change.

Oh, wow Naomi. Is that Hans Zimmer? Yes. Oh, it was many inventions. That's so good. That's sentence. Was that your year 12 year book quote? We didn't, I went to a poor school.

Oh. We didn't have quotes. I don't remember what mine was actually. Now I want to find my year book. Go out and brought that up. I would not want to see what mine was. You wouldn't have had a beard, so I'd be weird. I don't like that.

Yeah. Look, imagine that face just as it's supposed to be. Ooh. He had that look for the majority of his life. Ha ha. No, I think. Probably not now. What are you reckon the ratio to be is a non-beard? You, I think. Probably not now. What are you reckon the ratio to be is?

You'd be 50, 50 by now. First beard was probably about 7, 7, 800 years ago. Right, and how old were you? 7, 800 years old then? I was here before that. I didn't record birthdays. I reckon about 98% beard. Wow. And then 2%...

2% baby. Yeah, baby mustache. So I had a really little mustache. Oh, so cute. A little baby one. Yeah, a little baby-sauce. Oh, cute. I'm gonna tell that it's cute.

A little puarot. Oh, stupid. That is a door. I mean, that's me. That's my story. That's my truth. Um, live it. Yeah.

It's brave. You got to. Thank you. Thank you for being so vulnerable in this space. It is hard. Oh no. But how do you feel? How do you feel now that you've, you, it's a way lifted.

Yeah. I feel airy. I feel fairy. You look, you're glowing. I'm floating on life And support yes life support from you guys my friends Turn that off Jesus Dave

Although then we get he's share of the cold hard cash. Yeah, I don't have any Stuart Treasurer share of the cold hard cash. Yeah, I don't have any. Stuart Treasure. You give us the map. I'm so sorry you've it's a myth. Now Amy has a very long report. I'm so sorry we keep derailing. This is you're doing so well by the way. Yes. You're having fun. Oh, this is the show. Have you ever heard this show before? I've never heard of this show before. But have you ever heard the show before? Plenty times. Love this show before. But have you ever heard the show before? Plenty of times, love it. She's a big fan. I have to be aware of what's no follow up questions. What's your favorite episode? I don't even have a favorite. Do you? What is it?

I don't know, because then you're just going to say me too. Say, um, I went through a phase of just listening to it on repeat, not on repeat, not the same episode. And then I moved on. I just listened to podcasts for like a month at a time. So it was a while ago. That's a long stretch. Yeah, that's great. Have you?

But now you part of it. I was reading a while ago actually. I mean, a maths cheat sheet. Listen to you talk about it Titanic. Oh. Right. Do you remember anything about maths or is it all about icebergs?

Yeah, the whole exam I just wrote about icebergs. We're going down. The funny thing was they had enough of a laughable answer, but they took them off because they wanted more decking. Anyway, X equals, I don't know. More decking. Hey, man, you know what's good for you?

More dick! Don't look at me like that. Please. Jess. Yes? Where were we? What's happening? Okay.

Every odd moment in the room has an explanation behind it. Kyle Voit played Peter, Johnny's psychologist friend. Kyle had told Tommy months ago that he had a commitment coming up and wouldn't and would need to be done shooting, but shooting had blown out and Kyle scenes weren't done. Tommy blew up at Kyle and Kyle was so stressed about it that he smacked his head against the stairs during a blocking of a scene on his last day and blood was gushing from his head. He had a concussion, so he kept blinking and grabbing pieces of the set during the last scene of his visit.

Oh my god, he's stumbling around the set and they're not calling anyone. They still keep filming. Oh my god. He also says straight into the camera, which you can see in the final cut. Does he just crying help? He says to him the barrel? He's eyes are crying. So you can actually see him really struggling.

Yeah. Oh my God. You didn't know that so much. When you saw it. No, but nothing seems out of place in the film. It's all dumb. Yeah, it's really odd, but it's like in the book everything that seems odd. This like a whole explanation. Right, there's Like back story and it all comes back to Tommy. Yeah, there's a traumatic event for every single

Weird, so if you took out all of those weird things and it was made Made as it was scripted would it be better? It'd be less weird obviously if it was made as it would script it, it would be way worse. I'd be worse, right? It's because it doesn't have any influence. I'd be influencing him to make it better in coherent. Right. But all the weed little things like the concussions and stuff, if you took them out, would

that improve it? Or make it, is it more interesting because of those weed stories? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you don't know about them. You just see a guy at us in the middle of a seat just looks straight at the camera. You just think he's unprofessional. Really? He's not a good actor.

He's got a concussion. He's in a lot of trouble. He's struggling. Yeah, not his best scene. So since Kyle had to leave, Tommy created a new character, Steven, who takes the rest of Peter's lines and just appears in the last third of the film.

What the f**k? Love that. So he's just there. No, no explanation. He's just like Lisa, stop. Did someone in the film say who is this guy, or is that what we're saying, what's in it? That's what we're saying.

Right. There's no explanation at all. No. No one's in the film. Come on, man. Come on. Everyone picks it up. It's a different guy. There's Peter or something.

What, you only have one friend? It's true, it's a movie like real life. Do you have other friends? Yes. Who are they? No. So answer however, gets me out of this quickest. Do you believe him?

But he has other friends or that he doesn't have other friends because he said both answers. I believe one of them but I'll never reveal which one. Oh my god they're killing me these two. You guys are crazy. Sorry hot dogs. What's his surname? Jan Jiggy in. Spockets good. I could just forget.

I will. Oh yeah, you're right. There are several sex scenes in the room. Several. Several. Too many. At least three? I think more. Why is there so many? There's so many and they go for so long. Tommy's bear us without for his scenes with Lisa and he thrusted me her belly button the whole time, which is very obvious when you watch you're like why is he doing that to mid torso? Great. He likes some shots, people told him that it looked like he was bayonet belly button but he's just kept doing it. He likes some shots from the first sexy and reuse them in the next sexy scene because he thought people wouldn't notice, but it's extremely noticeable. Is it like a different location?

No, it's the same bed and everything, but it's just like just the same shots. I think it's even the sequence of a few shots. The first time I watched it, I like that's scrappy I expected better from this film so he's asked and we've seen many times in these scenes he's still insisted on a shot of him walking from behind naked so you can see his full ass on display he likes his own butt he loves it he got that from a movie with Brad Pied in it. Okay. What's the, what's the, what's the, like, Dave? But he's quite a muscular guy. Right. We'll say that for it because he's been, I don't, I don't know if you know how old

he is, but you know, it's, I think speculated upon. He's quite an older, older guy, but yeah. So he, um, that's a great part in answering your question. Thank you. But you don't want to look at it. I mean, not for not that many minutes. Right. And maybe a glance. If you really look like, because he's walking, I feel like you can see just like the,

the silhouette of his scrotum. That's all you want to say though, isn it? If that. Yeah just a hint of a story. All you want to want to see, that's what I want to see, sure. Show me that Scrooze silhouette. That's great. I want to know that it's there. But I don't want to see it. In all the detail. Just a hint. A hint of Scrooze. A hint of Scrooze. Am I getting a, A hint of scroat. My mic getting a... How do you say hint of scroat? I'm gonna throw an opinion out.

I don't care if it's there. Yeah, a great point. Did you get that from a bread pit film? I don't know, I don't know, the scroat of a shot of bread pit. The scroat shot. Scroat shot. Scroat shot? Is that a good nickname? Oh, sounds like a superhero.

Ah. Scotch shot. Oh, then it is. What, you love it? Do you want it for yourself? All right, Scott shot. All right, Scott shot. All right.

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I'm his pronounce on a podcast. Any more questions? Yeah. It's funny. Trust me. Throughout the film, Lisa cheats on Johnny. It tells everyone that Johnny, he told when he didn't, and then lies about pretending to be pregnant with his child. Lisa doesn't sound very nice. She's not. Johnny's perfect. She's staring at my part. He just keeps getting... What was it before?

He's perfect, but... He's constantly getting wrong. That's right, thank you. Yeah, I have a purpose to say. Are the people wrong him? Women don't come off grade in this film. That's just as a side. The movie ends with Johnny being fed up with this world. That's just as an aside. The movie ends with Johnny being

fed up with this world. That's a quote from the film. Trashing his house and shooting himself. Before he shoots himself, however, something happens. This is how it's written in the script. He reaches in and pulls out more of Lisa's clothes and throws them on the floor. He lies on the clothes, unzipping his zipper. He is breathing hard and riding with pelvic thrusts. When he finishes, he suits up and picks up the gun. Okay. What is that? What is happening? So if you watch the movie, you see that and you're like, is he fucking a dress? And you're like, no, it's probably just some weird quirk and then you read the script and it's better than the script said.

Wow, okay. So is he fucking a dress? Yeah, great. Yeah, cool. Everyone was like, why? Yeah, that's an excellent question to ask. Emotion. Was there an answer?

Yeah, emotion. Oh. emotion. Emotion. Was there an answer? Yeah, emotion. Oh, I don't think so. Oh yeah. But he would, he's done a lot of Q&As and stuff right after, he would have done a lot of interviews and a lot of movie Q&As after screenings. Yeah, but he hasn't really answered them properly. Like there's a lot of American football in the film. I was leaves his assessor with America, but they're just like throwing a football to each other and they're standing like two meters apart or like one meter. And they ask them, why do you have, like, why are they playing football in tuxedos at one point two meters apart from each other?

And he says something like, America is such a beautiful place. Football is so fun with your friends. So, it never really answers any questions. No, it's not. It's not a question. Next question. What do you fucking dress? America is such a beautiful place.

And dresses look lovely in the summertime. Next question. Well, you know what he's about? Sorry. Hey, that spoke to me that answer. Thank you. It's a beautiful place. Thank you.

And? And the rest of it was also good. Quite a memory on you. I'm very old. When filming his suicide scene, there was a blood splatter mechanism that would go off when the first AD yelled bang. But every time they did this, Tommy would not fall down and just stay there kneeling with the gun and his mouth. You would just forget to pretend to die.

Okay. I said bang! No. Where does this mix of like super confident but it's like no good or at once. Where does the confidence come from? I think a lot of people are like. Yeah. Probably. Where does the confidence come from? I think a lot of people are like... Really? Yeah.

Probably, yeah. And that, because all of it makes me think, is he a genius? I still am not sure if he's a genius or not. I mean, he has a dream. Fine line. It is a fine line. At one point in the movie, he,

so Greg was wearing a, had a beard for most of the film. And then at one point point Tommy was like, you have to shave it for this scene and he was like, why? He really didn't want to shave it, but Tommy made him shave it and Greg was disappointed because his, his plan was to have a beard in the film, have his name printed differently in the credits and pretend it wasn't. differently in the credits and pretend it wasn't. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Greg was a line producer and a lead actor. A line producer does everything. But he also introduced film to him, didn't he? No, he never seen a film before. No, he just took him to one film. Tommy was always obsessed with film.

And the rest is history. Yeah, thank you. Greg. Wow. And he's the guy I touched Elbers with, is that right? Yes. He's the one who's been in Australia recently. Yes.

Is that genius? You touched Elbers with the I'm not tough on me I do feel smarter. I don't think it has If I can be honest, okay, no you can I've noticed a different place for me to be honest really do you think he stole some of my genius? Yeah, I think so. That's what this guy does Zero on the cusp of a big discovery. Yes. And now, nothing.

I do feel different. Yeah. I thought it was better. No, it just was. Your feeling was wrong. Sorry. Your general vibe makes sense to me now. It was lately.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't like it when you guys were being mean to me. Now I'm doing it to Matt. I'm sorry Matt You are the heart and soul of this podcast And we love you. It's been a few years now Jess. I'm pretty well used to it I'm not Pretty well used to being the heart and soul

We thank you for it When the film was finally done Tommy rented a billboard on sunset Boulevard that stayed up for five years. It said now showing even though the film was not showing anywhere yet. Yes, this is just copying other billboards. Yeah, five years. It's so good. I didn't know that. It was, it became sort of a fixture because his face is quite menacing. And it was just like the sort of...

So it's just a giant thing. Like black and white, his face is quite menacing and it was just like sort of sort of just a giant like black and white his face so that as a the room now showing legend I think it said the Tennessee will new Tennessee Williams oh yeah a title he would give himself like a quote but like it's not attributed to anyone because no one said it yeah it was like fake quotes oh very good like what we put on our posters, now. Yeah, that's over in the Tennessee Williams. Yeah, it will now. It listed his phone number on it,

and if you called to an answer and tell you to go see the movie. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. He had a premier screening at a cinema in 2003. He showed up with Greg in a limo that he put the room poster on each window. And when they got there,

they weren't enough people lining up outside. So they just kept doing, went around the block a few times, until there were enough people, and then they stopped and got out. That's great. But they also couldn't see that through the window. So they had to kind of semi-get out every time and go,

not enough to get back in. Yeah, and I think the, yeah, was filled out by extras, the whole. I'm not. And Greg says, this is his quote, people were hypnotized with laughter. He ended up paying for the film to screen at a cinema and it made $1600

in its two-week run. $1600. And it cost $6 million to make. Oh my god. I am notoriously not good at maths, but I'm going to take a stab if you guys will create a safe space for me to do so. I'm gonna guess that that is probably what would be considered a box office smash. Smash, do you hear it six million? Yeah, that's crazy good. That cost, cost. Yeah, yeah, cost price, wow.

That's great. That's great. All profit, right? Is that net or profit? All of it. Yeah, net and profit. That's amazing. $600. But still some great value as well. Do you think? Yeah, absolutely. I don't think I could do it for that. Six million. So it was made for $1600 and it made $6 million. Yeah. That's one of

the best. That's the way I said that. That's the best ratio I've ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. Where would you project? Move over. Yeah, in fact, with all the best ratio I've ever heard. Yeah, that's... Where would project move over? Yeah, in fact, with all those actors, I don't know, all of that would have gone on like their wages. No wonder he couldn't afford water. Yeah, he couldn't afford water. No way! He was good with money.

Wow, he really stretched it. Yeah. He spread it beautifully. No. Hang on. Cost. That's not good at all. Six million that he's absolutely crazy. He's personal money. Why did he have that?

I'll get to a sort of exciting. Oh my God, I'm so excited. Yes. Um, in that two weeks, it got a small number of fans who saw it multiple times a day and led a campaigns to bring the film back Email him thousands of times. So $1600. That was actually only 20 people seeing it like 10 times it far out. That's sad By 2004 they were regular midnight screenings of the film in Los Angeles by 2009 They were read midnight screens happening in New York City and other places

Matt just many exploded. We just shocked. That's 2009. 2009. Don't make me hiccup with the light. What a year. So since then the rooms become this cult movie kind of like Rocky Horror Picture Show. So there are a lot of rules when you go see it of things that you're supposed to do to um...

Like when you see the outline of his throat. He yelled. Scrored, Scrored, Scrored. Oh that's great. The love that's great. Give me that's great. Oh, similar. And if you have a Scrored, you're supposed to grab yours.

Woo! Yeah. As Dave did, it was straight. I grabbed it here. I grabbed it here. I swear. You did not make one that was Scrored. You did not touch Jess's knee. Woo!

All right, what are the rules? I think I know one of them. Some of the rules, I'm not gonna read them all, because there are a lot. Number one is the room is filled with picture frames that have stock art of spoons. And so when you see spoons on screen, you have to throw plastic spoons at the screen.

Yes, that's the one I knew. Pretty wild. Is there an explanation of why they're a stock out of spoons? Yeah, they just, they had them there and then they're like, should we swap them out? And I can't remember if Tommy or someone else who just didn't care anymore. I think it was Tommy who was like, no, they're nice. Like, just leave the spoons. Yeah, okay, cool.

Count every time that someone says that Mark is Johnny's best friend, because multiple times it's just like, Mark is Johnny's best friend, or I can't do this Lisa. Johnny's my best friend. So does everyone just yell out like three? Yeah, but they're literally counting. I think we're counting down. Sorry.

Yeah, yeah, they just say you are or you're just counting throughout the film. Great. Cool. I don't think we've been to a screen. You sounds fun. Yeah, it's really fun But the ones in Melbourne have gotten overwhelming at this point because it's so popular now that it's just like You can't hear anything. I can't actually hear because people throwing spoons are yelling Counting the whole time. Yeah, because there's so many rules it'd be hard to keep track of the rules And then you can just yell out just stuff you notice. Yeah Scrooid in Scrooid.

In a proper way. Scrooid. Bum. In a pro. Scrooid. Yelling focus at the screen when the camera isn't focused properly. It just happens a lot. No, it's not.

They often just didn't check because they were like, this isn't going anywhere. No, I'll never see this. Also yelling unfocused when the sex scenes are happening. Another rule is to leave during the room during the longest sex scene of the film. Because it goes to like, I don't know how long. Well you just go get like popcorn or something. Yeah you go to bathroom, have a cigarette or something. Wow.

That's hilarious. I thought I don't recommend about a second. But I do recommend using the bathroom where you need to. Free day, I do it. Get out. Me too! Really? Yes!

I love you. I know friendship. There's a part in the movie where Tommy seems to look to the bottom of the corner of the screen and wave, and people sometimes run to that corner of the screen and wave back. Oh, that's kind of cute. It is cute. This happened because it took Tommy ages to get his blocking and lines right for this one scene. And so on the one take that he did it right, he waved at the first AD to celebrate that he've done it.

Oh! Rather than wait for them to say proud little kid. He's like, I'll do it! There is now a room, the room video game, a book written by Greg Sestero called The Disaster Artists, which again is my favorite book, and where I got all this information. And later a movie was made based on the book starring James Franco. So in the movie, The Disaster Artist, who is Dave Franco playing? Greg.

Greg. I thought so. Okay, cool. I'm with it. Yeah. And is Alison brilliant at? Yes, I'm. Yeah, she prays. She plays, I think. She plays Greg's girlfriend. Who talks about it in the book, but who gets? One thing one fun fact is that Tommy Wiseau would only sign the contract if he was in it. Of course. For a certain amount of time, but they didn't say that it had to be in the final cut. So making the final cut, but he is in the credits.

That's smart. And it is bizarre to see it because they're like dressed the same. Put him in, put his meat. Yeah, it's James Franco and Tommy Weiss. And also James Franco stayed in character the whole time. So really? He was directing. So it was like him directing a movie where he started and playing a director who also started.

Wow, it's so meta. Hopefully he was like a bit more, a bit easier to work with than the actual Tommy, you know? No, they went on that have water. Oh, no, come on. You're own brother. Method. When Tommy introduces the film, he always says more or less the same thing. You can laugh, you can cry, you can express yourself, but please don't hurt each other.

Okay. All right, mate. Great line. Wow. There's a documentary called The Roomful of Spoons that tries to find out where Tommy is from, that Tommy hates and run a smear campaign against online. Recommend you tubing that. It was going to air at Sydney Underground Film Festival until they were contacted by Tommy's lawyers. And this is the quote, we received these emails from an apparent lawyer

of Wizo film saying that we'd breached copyright. It was really funny because all the emails were misspelled and had really terrible grammar. And if you read it in the Tommy Wiseau accent, it sounds exactly like Tommy. That is incredible. Yeah. So they did actually not film it, uh, screen it, whatever, they didn't screen it Sydney Underground Film Festival. So I haven't seen it, I really want to see it. Um, have shown it at other places. But yeah, he just like sends some threats. He doesn't like it. He was initially on board, but whatever. Tommy's often said that he's born in 1968

as his driver's license says, which Greg saw. But Greg's brother's partner, however, tracked him down in public records, which state he was born in the 50s. He doesn't actually say in the book, but it's said to be around the 50s. He's got a fake driver's license. Well, yeah, I don't know. Okay, so I'll just, so Greg pieces together stories.

Tommy has told him to come up with a backstory for him. Great, but again, it's not confirmed because Tommy won't talk about it. So this is Greg just figuring it out. Yeah, so if you ask Tommy how he financed the film, he'll just say selling leather jackets. Yeah. $6 million. Easy. Easy.

Easy. Okay, so he grew up under Communist rule in Europe, most likely Poland, and was always obsessed with America for which he was labeled a traitor. He escaped to France when he was a young man, but was still scared of being caught as he worked in a restaurant for an abusive man who threatened to get him sent back. He eventually made his way to the US to Shale-May, Louisiana. He eventually moved to San Francisco, California, where he sold trinkets on Fisherman's Wharf. And he got known for like this bird that you would throw up in the air and it would whistle. So they called him the bird man.

Sure. That's when he changed his name to Tommy Weizo because Weizo in French means bird. Right, okay. But it's like the spelling's a bit different. He worked in restaurants and opened a fashion store that sold mis-shape and levers. One leg is significantly longer than the other. Like one's long enough for a stilt. You a stilt, which leg? Have I got the jeans for you? Ah, I've a leg. Don't worry, I've got about the back. He's got everything, though, he's got everything you need. Every kind of shape.

Oh, yeah. It's a very inclusive dodgy jeans. That's brilliant. Uh, eventually buying and renting out large retail spaces in and around San Francisco and Los Angeles, making him independently wealthy. Though it's hard to fathom, someone could make that much money

from a regular blue jeans and trinkets. Greg says he doesn't think Tommy has gotten his wealth from any mob connections or drugs. Okay, I was gonna say something dodgy, but okay. Yeah, well that's what Greg's like, I'm just convinced that it couldn't be that. He just couldn't see him like, comprehending. Yeah, he couldn't pull that off.

I feel like you would have come out by now somehow. Yeah, you've got to be pretty sneaky and clever. And he doesn't feel either of those things to me. We've got a lot of good things to say about criminals there, Jess. How is sneaky a good thing? Clever? Clever, yeah. Well, dinosaurs can be clever. Yeah they're great, not

terminals. Animals are clever. Yeah, still bad example. Please move on. Can I have your right? Dinosaurs can be clever. It's a really good point. That is a great clever. It's a real dead. Ebiots. Gotcha. Got those stupid honestly. Greg and Tommy have gone on to create another movie together called Best Friends because the R is in brackets. So it's kind of like best themes. Oh wow. Based on a road trip they took in 2003 during which Tommy believed Greg was going to kill him. What the fuck is wrong with him? Why did Tommy think Greg was going to kill him. What the fuck is wrong with him? Why did Tomi think Greg was going to kill him? I...

Okay, sorry. I shouldn't question the plot. They were in... I can tell you actually. They were in the place where Alfred Hitchcock filmed the birds. It was already spooky. The Wise O's, sorry. Oh, a Bodega Bay. What's the name of the place? I don't know. It was actually filmed there, but that's what it said. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that's it. Well done. It's true. It's true. I don't know another. And they only had one bed left and so they weren't gonna rent it to the both of them. So Greg was like, Tommy just stand out the back and I'll just get the one room and we can share it and Tommy thought that Greg didn't want anyone to know he was there so that he could murder him and no one would don't. And that's what that movie's based on. And he didn't run for it. He's like, well, okay. Well, where else is he gonna go? It's middle-knowing. Great point. So, and despite Greg, he wrote the disaster out of the book. Yes. Despite him writing that, which obviously portrays Tommy as a bad guy, a crazy guy, a terrible actor, a terrible director. They're still friends.

They're best friends. They talk every single day. Has he not read the disaster out of the book? I don't know. I just think he just goes along with whatever. He wants success. He has made him famous. That's what they wanted.

When people started calling the room a comedy, he was like, yep. Yeah, sure is. Intentual. Yeah, that's what I was going for. Nailed it. Black comedy. So it's crazy. So I bought the script online because in the book it says

that the script is so much worse. And it's, I've only read some of it. But there's just some characters just, they're not in scene at all. And then at the end, it's like, Denny leaves the room, and everyone's like, by Denny, you were the only one who made me. That is funny. So I bought it for my boyfriend actually as a present,

and he was overseas when it came. And I just clicked signed, copy, and then it came in the mail, and it was like, Naomi, folly or dreams. And so I was like, oh, I called him and I was like, I got you something and I got it signed, but they signed it to me. I'm so sorry and he's like, oh, you keep it, you keep it.

Like he was so sad and I was like, in any other scenario, I would keep it. But in this scenario, it's perfect that it's yours. Yeah. Because it's tied to the wrong person. Yeah, that works. Yeah. And then I did meet the wrong person. Yeah. Yeah, that works. Yeah. And then I did meet Greg Cester when he was here and he was dead behind my eyes.

Where did you meet? The Nova was doing screenings of the disaster artist and he was there like signing staff. So I brought the script for him to sign it. I brought the book as well. And he just, I feel like he's met a lot of cult fans. Yeah. And he was just, he's just like started asking questions and as soon as I'd start answering it, he'd just ask another one. Like, he was trying to get out like a quarter of words.

Yeah, bang, bang, bang. And he just kept like, interrupting me out by the way. And I was like, oh, and then he's like, did you like the book? I was like, oh yeah, I really? He's like, what was your favorite part? And I was like, oh, I really like the end of it. How you thought it was?

Like, did you like, did you think the friendship was funny? And I was like oh I really like the end of it hate I'm raised like did you like did you think the friendship was funny? And I was like yeah yeah but this don't you want to get out of the conversation? So yes I mean if that was what he was doing it works but it was just some of me like do you think that that's funny? It's just do you like me? Oh yeah so does he seem like a really weird guy as well? Well that's what because I always thought he was normal but then I was like So does he seem like a really weird guy as well? Well, that's what, because I always thought he was normal,

but then I was like, he's best friends with Tommy Wiseau. Yeah. I kind of feel like it started out making no money, but now it's because it's got that cult following and then with a disasteritis, I feel like Tommy's got what he wanted and I'm a little bit mad at that. Like, he doesn't deserve what he has now Why not cuz he's tried so hard

Fuck good point I find it really inspiring to be honest. He took a real gamble. He can make it Yeah, you just got to believe you just got a blindly belief So he's made his money back Yeah, definitely sells underwear online of doubt. Yeah, definitely. He sells underwear online now. Underwear? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, because he always wanted to be an underwear model and I think when he was doing the house show, he was like, I could be an underwear model. Yep. And he believed in himself and now he sells underwear online. That is inspiring. I mean, anyone could sell underwear online. That's the beauty of the internet now.

You just do that. We let you on the internet one time. And now you think, you know, is everything about the internet? I got popped up a little couple of shops. Couple of shops popped up. Yeah. A little pop up shop. Yeah, I can wear a couple of shops. Yeah, great. What did you buy? I didn't buy. I sell a cell underwear. Oh, I have underwear. The most exquisite. Wow, you can think of. What material? Denim.

Denim, Mondies. Fabric. Ooh. Linen. Linen and Andy's breathable. Curtains. Curtain and Andy's. Are you selling curtains also?

Fox. Jimnaizier. Yeah, we've lost him. One pair of fabric, please. Or are you selling curtains also? Fox Jim Naysie. Yeah, we've lost him one pair of fabric, please I'd love to sell to go on underwear. No, I think it's time. I think it's time as well. Do you go on underpants? Do you go on? You're a butt underpants. Do you go underpants is good?

Yes, all right. We'll do oneup. Do you get... Do you get underpants is good? Yes. Alright, we'll do one thing. Hot dogs get it. Hot dogs. This topic was actually suggested by a couple of listeners, including Cecil and also Daniel Spring. Daniel Spring. Daniel's a figure.

What's the fun? It was Philadelphia. Yeah, that was a great report. Well done. Thank you, hot dogs. That was huge. That was huge. Right.

Or what was the Scrop Dog? Scrop Dog, Jenny. I was like, I don't remember signing off on that one. I was like, yeah, the Scrop Dog, get into Gen G. Scrop Dog, Gen G, yeah. That was great. Thank you. We could feel the passion.

Yeah, it was awesome. So how many times do you have seen the room? Ten, ten, fifteen, which time? And did you enjoy the disaster artist, the film, and the taste of your favorite book? I did. I was like, this doesn't have every single detail from the book. It was like a fake story about Malcolm in the middle in there. Yeah, why is Brian Cranston in it? Yeah, that's not real. No, James Trinker was like, I just thought it would be cool to have Brian Cranston from the 90s,

from, and I was like, okay. So, it was like me watching the Hunger Games, you know? Like, why are you living out the best bits? Why is Brian Cranston in the Hunger Games? Why isn't this movie 10 hours last? I get it. To cover everything. When I, I was told, I first heard that they were making a movie about making the room.

That is the worst idea for a film I've ever seen. And then I watched the trailer of him stuffing up. I did not hit it. I did not. Oh, I'm okay. And they take 30 takes or whatever. And I was like, this looks amazing. It was like the quickest turn around.

So 90 second trailer really won me over. And I enjoyed it. It was a looks amazing. It was like the quickest turn around. So 90 second trailer really won me over. And I enjoyed it, it was a good film. It was great, I really want to see room full of spoons. Yeah. That doesn't cool. Hard to get your hot little hands on that one. All right, you'll find a way. You'll be resourceful.

I'm scrappy. Yeah, clever. Oh no. Sneaky. Yeah, how's it feel? I'm not sure. I'm just sorry. I'm not a criminal, I'm a good girl. Not that I know of. Stealing all those hearts.

As the time, time of the show, over that fun segment we call... Fact, Quotal, question, where our Patreonoenberg, level supporters get to give us a Fact Quotal Question. This week the question is from Nesta Gujarro. Nesta! I'm not saying I should really know how to say your name right Nesta. No Dave does it best. Dave does it best. Do it best Dave. Wait, Ghiarro.

Ghiarro Nesta Ghiarro. And they also get to give themselves their own title. And this week Nesta has given himself the title that we once gave to him before, the unbestable Nesta. Yes. Oh. Yes. Ooh. Yes. Cannot be bested. And his questions get for so to keep.

That's what I'm going to say. It's a bad, like, ad for a shop. And our process cannot be bested. Oh, by the way, I'm nester. Otherwise that just makes sense. To me, that's a good ad. Roll the ad. Yeah, and they had one take.

Did you write and produce that? Yeah. Oh yeah. His question is, I'm gonna sped a read someone else's question. No, it's a real dog. Oh, gee, whiz. Oh no. Oh no. What are we, fuck?

Fuck. I hope it's what's your favorite animal noise to make. I'm ready if it is. When you're scared? Yeah, specifically when you're scared. No, it is not. Fuck! It is. If you guys had a three-way steering contest. Oh God! Oh thank goodness! Thank him! He took my turn to get that. We all, the three of us went a very different direction. Steering context.

I'm obviously very naive because that did not enter my mind, but I also was able to see the following words, so that probably helped me. If you guys had a three way... Just say steering context. A steering contest. Who would win? And who would have a three way of? And who would be the first to give in?

I mean that. Okay, so then you've just got them just take out the word staring contest. No, certainly leave it. Who would win the three way? Okay, staring contest, I reckon David win. Yeah, I would give up the quickest. Are you guys going to go good? I'm pretty good because I used to be good, but my eyes, now I've got to wear glass and stuff.

I find it hard to focus on looking. I just get bored. And I'm not competitive at all. So I'd be like, this is dumb, I don't care. How are we gonna do? Well Dave's already, we've already decided he wins. Now you've visited me.

And maybe no me, Dave can talk. I just blinked. Did you? No. All right. See? No, I'm number two. and maybe know me, Dave can talk. Ah, just blinked. Did you? Did you know? No. See? No, I'm number two. I'm number two.

Yeah, I think you'd try. Let's get the title, I don't even have to prove it. Great. I wake up, little colon. It'll take, come for my crown. Ready, wait, ready. You say you call it. I'll call it three, two, one.

Open. All right, I'll watch Matt. I'm watching Dave. I'm watching Matt. I'm watching Matt. I'm watching Dave. I'm watching Dave. Dave, I'll watch Matt. I'm watching Dave. That just went like, Dave, it's almost immediately. I'm panning blinked. It's really hard. Now you two have to do it to see you do the worst.

Oh. See, this is what I mean, I don't care. Feel like I've got a propaganda. All right, come on then. You have a propaganda. I mean, you blink. It's probably best if I do blink because it's terrible audio.

Yeah, true. Dave, I mean, Dave, it seems like you're wheezing out. No, I'm honestly, I'm happy to crown Matt the champion of this. Well, Nest didn't say do it on air. He just asked us to hypothesize. And we hypothesized wrong. We all thought I'd be good. Yeah.

And I was not true. I didn't realize it was going to be so easy to win. Both of them were within 10 seconds. I'm like, I could make 20 seconds. Yes. Well, that was good fun. Thank you so much, Nestle. It is true. You cannot be bested. And now me, there's another part of the show, maybe since you've stopped listening, which obviously breaks our hearts, but since then that's a new segment over from last you, maybe the last month. Yeah. we do. Stop listening. That's a segment we do. We call it stop listening. And the other

one we do is reading out some patrons, supporters, and Jess comes up with a fun game, somehow relating back to the topic this week. Okay. Punry, my voice is going to come back now. What do you mind joining in? I'd love it. Don't you shout out to someone? Okay, I think should we either give them a movie title, like their version of the room or change their surname to a French word.

Oh, yeah. How many French words do we all know? Yeah, couple. We got six, we got eight names. Oh yeah. Okay, let's just give them a movie title then. Okay, girl. Is that okay? Yes, that is certainly, that's fine.

All right, great. Well, last. Dave's gonna go first. Dave's gonna go first. Why is it called the room? Yes. Um. Why is it called the room? Yes. Um. Why is it called the room?

I can look up, you know what? I'll, I'll look up the explanation that he gave. It's that, I was just, yeah, because I'm memorable. I can't remember it now. All right, you sure you want me to go first? Yes. I would like to thank from great Britain. J.B.

All the way up in Glasgow. Oh, Glasgow. Glasgow, all the way from Glasgow. Modo. I'd like to thank, I'd like to thank Taggart, for being a great show. Obviously. I'd also like to thank Fraser Craig.

Fraser Craig. Fraser Craig. Fraser Craig. Are you happy that we can say it properly? Fraser Craig. Fraser Craig and I want to that we can say it properly? Fraser Craig. Fraser Craig and I want to call it the mode though. The mode though. That's also a bird thing because it's the same thing.

A mode of course. The mode though. The mode though. The mode though. Starring Fraser Craig. And to be honest, it could be anything and it would be better than the room. So that's pretty good. Thanks to you support all the way up in Glasgow.

And congratulations. We can go to CU sometime soon. Over in the UK. I'd like to thank all the way. Now this one, I'd love to say we have to see you soon. And it's my dream to go back there all the way in Iceland. I've spoken to you a few times on Mess and Joe. You've sent a few messages to the page. Thank you so much.

I'm going to have a crack at your name. The way you explained to me how to the page. Thank you so much. I'm gonna have a crack at your name the way you Explained to me how to say it Seagaburg Seagaburg, sorry Seagaburg Seagaburg Seagaburg And you also said that we could call you Seabah Seabah is a nickname. Not even gonna have a crack at your last time because it is very

There's a lot of a lot of what's in there. There's a lot of accents and things going on there Seagaburg is very- There's a lot of umlets in there. There's a lot of accents and things going on there. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets.

Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets.

Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Umlets. Um The omlet. The omlet. Is there an omlet in omlet? No, but there's an e-all in there. Oh. There's also an egg.

Oh. The omlet. What do you think that's about? Ah, magic. Disabreif's an opsis. Okay. We open rolling hills. Yeah.

It's just a play. A title. It's just a play. A title. 1906. A good year. Hills. That's beautiful. That is so good.

There's a 40 minute dance sequence. Oh. Then an interval. Okay. We come back for the fight scene, followed by the tasteful sex scene. Yeah. role credits. Right, and the omelet was symbolic. Dave, I just explained the whole film.

How do you not, I mean, I'm not an auto like you. Well, we just don't have the time to meet it. I need it spelled out to me. Okay. With all the umlauts, please. Just very quickly, what's the murder about? The murder. The murder.

Okay. Is it just an episode of Taggart? We open. Rolling City Skull line. Yeah, we're going to. Glasgow? No! No!

Oh, Dave, that is the dumbest question I've ever heard. Sorry. It's a fictional city in the future. Oh, go glas. Gloglas. Thank you. And obviously, 35-minute dance number. Yeah.

Coldly onward. Yeah. And this movie for some reason. It's a bit like the Nutcracker. It's like the cracking eggs. Okay. Uh, then it's followed by a rousing speech by the president of Glow Gas. Uh, inspiring troops.

Yeah. Battlesine. Right. Uh, but more like World War One trench warfare, which is interesting. Back to the future. Yeah. Um, because I figured that's the best war. Yeah.

So they do that again. They're great. They call it the great war. And that's why. Well, they've tried to top it since and they haven't. Um. Good luck. Tastle sex scene. Does anyone get murdered?

Ends in a wedding. Okay. Roll credits. Please don't make me do this rule. I really have to go. And what's the murder symbolic? Dave. Sorry, sorry. I have a lot of was the murder symbolic. Dave! Sorry, I have a lot of dumb questions at the end of films.

They get married at the end. Ah! Common phrase. You get more for murder. More for murder. More for murder. The marriage is not going to last long. More for murder. What's a murder?

There we go. So thank you to... Yes, you're good. Yes. Over to you, Jessica. Wow. Okay, I would like to thank from Bloomington. Oh. Andrew Frankzick. Frankzick. Frankzick.

Frankzick. Frankzick. Frankzick. Oh, there's a cane. Frankzick looks good. Frankanzic. Franzic. Franzic. Franzic. Franzic. Oh, there's a K in the US. Franzic looks good. Franzic. Looks good. Feels real. Thank you, Andrew. Is that Indiana? I am in the US? Yeah. They've got to. Yes, it is. I sat next to Dave on a plane while he played the game, learning all of the states. Oh yeah. And you're what I did.

Had a nap. Because I know how to use my time. You've got to use your time right. You know Gary's in Indiana, just as an aside. So Andrew, what would Andrew's film be called? I mean, just because he's got a friend in a surname, I can't help but think of a movie of the Nanny. Obviously. Film adaptation. The Nanny. Maybe it's a spin off though. It's called mr. Sheer field the movie I love it. Yeah, and when is it set at set in the distant past? He walked through a wormhole just before the movie begins so I've never explained The jungle of dinosaur days. No.

Yes. When the world was called Dino World. And he somehow used the skills that he got from present day, Queens. And he got the dinosaurs to dance for 35 minutes. Wow. And a musical. Roll scenes.

Beautiful. Roll scenes. Roll scenes. That's beautiful. Andrew was just a three-hour drive from Gary and Deanna. What? Just a three-hour drive. Just hot one down.

I mean, what are you doing in Bloomington? I'm sure Bloomingdale's as fine. Bloomington. Bloomington is also fine. Bloomingdale is fine. But Bloomingdale's is fine. Bloomington. Bloomington is also fine. Bloomingdale is fine. But you're so close to greatness. Well speaking of being close to greatness, someone much closer to us, and we are great.

In Carlton North here in Victoria, would like to thank Erica Steele. Erica Steele, she is an old friend of mine. No way. None of her many years. How dare you call her old? Hello, Erica Steele. That is a fantastic name.

Yeah, that is a great name. What's Erica like? She drives trans. The woods. She drives trans. She's a tram driver. The tram driver. Her film is called the woods.

It's black and white. Tram driver. I feel like I'm being trampled in a bit here. Don't make just do this again. The woods. Is what you want to call it? Yeah. Okay. Well, what's it about then? It's my nose. What is it about? Well... A steel factory. Open. On a steel factory. How do we know

it's a steel factory? Is there any sort of writing on the building that says steel factory? No. Is there any sort of writing on the building that says steel factory? No. Open. Yep. Kid, this is a steel factory. Oh, thank God that kids there. That's the opening line. Yeah.

This is a steel factory. Brawl credits. Oh, short film. Yeah. That's right. No, it's for an hour and a half. Oh, yeah. That's beautiful.

The credits alone or? No. Certainly not. That's beautiful. The credits along or? No. No. No. No. No. You're going to be a minute, too. And the wood. Is that literal or?

What do you think, Matt? Oh. The woods in their mind all along. Yeah, there it is. That's one interpretation. I don't want to speak. I don't want to. People can get what they want from the beach.

You know what I mean? Right. The message is the medium. don't want to speak. I don't want to People can get what they want from the I mean the message is the medium. Yeah, so to speak. That's beautiful. Thank you Erica Steele Thank you very much soon. Bye. I would love to. Bye. I hope to see you soon. Wait, was she just on the phone then? Did you call her? Yeah, she heard that live. Oh wow. Oh polite, didn't say anything. That was very polite. What a treat. What a treat. Matt, take it away. Could I, uh, thank please. From Queen Bien in New South Wales, Australia.

Queen Bien. That's a great name, love that. Ebony, common. Ebony, common. Ebony. And ivory, black and white film. It's called and ivory. Yes. And it opens with Ebony sitting at a piano.

Notice Dave's been very quiet in all of his movie plot ideas. Interesting. I mean, I'm just letting you guys go with, because they all are so great. Okay, opens Ebony. She's in a sequin gown. We can tell it's sequin because it's sparkling, but I don't know what color it is

because the film is black and white. I think blue all red. She plays a version of So Sally can wait. Do you, the line from the heroicist song? Yes. What year is this? Don't look back in anger. No, no, no, she plays so Sally can wait. Right, so they've written a new song for the film. No, no, no, it's not Oasis. I feel like an idiot. It's so Sally can wait, which hasn't been written yet. Yeah. But it's the song that makes it gets really famous because of this film. Yeah, yeah. So you sing that and then her lover, he comes in, he's a 1920s mob boss.

So it's said in the 1920s? No, he's a really old mob boss. No. So there's a big shootup, my boss. No. So there's a big shoot up, not of drugs. There's like people shooting each other. Not with drugs. No, it's guns, guns, weapons. And it ends with her holding him, I see things he's dying, and he's bleeding through his shirt and it's red, roll credits. So it was a bit of a shin lose list rip off. Correct. That was cool. I know. Maybe that part of shin lose list, that sounds cool.

Yeah. I was thinking of... Cools one word. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. I was thinking of the Wizard of Oz when the witch gets shot and she bleeds out. All right, we're gonna speak through this case. Jess has to go to the airport.

I'd also like to be more subtle than me, but I won't be. Rebecca Mountain. From Athens, Georgia, I think. G.A. Dave. Sure. Rebecca Mountain, that's a sick name. Think GA Dave sure Rebecca mount not a sick name name if you got a good a film for Rebecca mountain The flat land

Where on your brand you access your ideas from that's fascinating. Oh, it's crazy. Can you give us a quick rundown because Jess apparently has to go to the airport and that means that, you know. We open at a podcast studio. Yeah. Oh, so relatable. We're all sitting in a room. Unbelievable. Three of them, happy, fine.

One, steam from areas. Coral credits. Wow. So that's what the flat lands. No. Oh, three are epic. Two, like two hours, 20 minutes. Wow. That's for the flatlands. No. Oh, it's a three hour epic. Two, like, two hours, 20 minutes. Wow.

That's a good length. That's pretty impressive. Oh, I'm just neat it for all the plot. Rebecca Moutan is a sick name, by the way. Thank you so much, Rebecca. You are an inspiration. An inspiration. An absolute inspiration.

A legend and an inspiration. Naomi's also going to thank some people too. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. an inspiration. Naomi's also gonna thank some people too. Thank you so much. Thank you, no thank you. Not you. Oh, okay. Thank you, Joseph Diana. Yeah, is that him?

All right, Kim. Diana. Joseph. Where's Joseph from? Oh, Lala, Paris friends. Oh! Lala! This is an international episode.

Hello. Hello, what? The Bouch. The Bouch? Which is mouth. Oh. Oh. Why did you look terrifying when you said that?

Because before when you said we have to name French words, that was the first one that came to my mind. I'm like, I think I've got the only one I know. Lepolm. Lepolm. Lepolm. That's it. Is that Apple? Pomp? Uh. Lips, palm. Lips, lip, palm. That's it. Is that, is that apple?

Palm? Uh. Is that all right? Anyway, we're going with Bouch. What happens? We open. Uh huh. The mouth.

On the, we open. We go out of a kid's mouth. Like the camera is coming out, like a, like a worm, but a camera. Wow, camera. Through the mouth, we see the alpha tail. Anything you like a worm, but a camera. Wow, camera. Through the mouth. You see, we see the alpha tail, anything you're in Paris, but really, we're in Las Vegas, baby.

Sweet twist. Montage. I've like gambling, a little bit of Celine Dion show. So it's a day in the life of someone at Vegas. So you actually see a 60, no 90 minute Celine Dion show from one see no, from one one person's mouth was seated. So they're eating with eating maltese's chocolates.

I thought they're just like they're just so shocked the whole time that their mouth is open. A cape. And it ends with them brushing their teeth. Wow. Beautiful. Thank God. It's a message. Athouse. La bouche. Is that what it is? That's beautiful. There's one more person here. Yes. Thank you so much to Joseph. Thank you Joseph. Thank you Joseph. Thank you Joseph.

Who's our last, our final person? Sorry, that's racist. Um, Connor Maldon. Ooh. Thank you, Connor. Connor Maldon. Maldon. Maldon. That's Connor from? Um, he's from Fandale in Michigan.

Which is Michigan and I, I knew that. Yeah. I wasn't going to say Mississippi. Fandale. So it's very confusing with their naming conventions. There's a lot of M.I. ones. What So it's very confusing with their naming conventions. There's a lot of MI ones. What's he's about? Fando.

Dave? Oh, sorry. Sorry about him. La Bouch. It's called the Art Teacher. Ooh, I like it. Set in Austria. Oh.

In the 1600s. Yes. Yes. Tell me more. He's an art teacher at a university, a lecturer, a professor, some would say. And he changes a lot of lives for the better. Through art. Is it a beautiful movie? And then it gets to the end of the movie and he is being forced to retire because they

budget cuts. Oh, and then he, his wife takes him into an auditorium and there's all of his past students and they play a song for him. Like she was like Mr. Holland's open. Great film. So beautiful. Yeah. Holland's open. Yes. Great film. So beautiful. Yeah.

Roll credits. Thank you. To a single tear rolling down his eye. Which is red and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone's like, are you okay? And then it's, oh. So thank you to Conor Maloon.

Thank you Conor. Thank you Conor. And thank you to everyone the support of Sir Patron. It makes a difference to our lives. It does. I found the quote. All right, Connor. And thank you to everyone that supports us at Patreon. It makes a difference to our lives. It does. I found the quote. All right, great.

It's kind of how I feel about this podcast as well, so... Well, strap in for this. Oh, boy. Um, at the time, I thought about a special place, a private place, a place where you can be safe. And it's not a room, but it's the room. I thought, and I think that a lot of people would relate to it. So the room is a place where you can go. you can have a good time, you have a bad time and a safe place.

He's insane. That's actually one of the nicest things he's ever said, but I mean... It still doesn't make sense. He never explains that nice feeling. I think people can relate to that, but you don't get that feeling from watching the film. America is a great place. Football's fun to play with friends. Next question.

It's beautiful. Roll credit. Well, no, I mean, thank you so much for taking the time to write that report. Come in here and report it back to us. Thank you so much for having me. What a joy. We appreciate that. We've been such a pleasure. An absolute privilege. It's been a long-term dream of ours to have you on the show.

Yeah, and mine too. And we've all ticked it off our bucket list. We have. Now where can people find, follow, keep up with what you're doing, when's this pilot coming out? Can we get behind it in any way? Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe to me. I'm on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

My handle is non-strosity. Nice, we're on the long-stros. Yeah, just link it. It's too hard to explain. In the description of this episode of the show notes. I'm online, baby. And the pilot. It's a call. Do you have a title?

Why are you like this? Relatable. It's about a place. It's a room, but it's not a room. It's a safe place. I have a good time. But it's through Fresh Bud, so it's not a room. It's a safe place. I have a good time. But it's a, it's a thru fresh bud, so it's a pilot. Just a pilot, then there's four pilots,

and one gets made into a series, so. A one in four chances. It's pretty great. Yeah. But it should be good. I don't know when it's coming out, but it'll be on Ivy or ABC. Just the pilot anyway, so yeah. Look out for it.

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