Two In The Think Tank - 144 - Juliane Koepcke, The Woman Who Fell From The Sky

Episode Date: July 25, 2018

On Christmas Eve 1971, Juliane Koepcke awoke alone in the Amazon jungle after a plane she was on crashed in a storm.The sole survivor, she knew no one was coming for her and that despite her injuries, she would have to save herself. Oh, did I mention that she was only seventeen years old? Juliane is possibly the biggest badass we've ever talked about and this is an absolutely incredible story of survival against the odds.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: http://bit.ly/DoGoOnHat Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out Matt's new podcast Prime Mates : https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/prime-mates/id1410556976 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Oh hello Dave. Hello Jess. Good to be here. Hi Jess. Oh Jess is... She's... Fucking with you. She's not gonna talk. She said she was gonna talk, so she's not gonna talk. Well, Zastwin, I don't even want you to talk, Jess. Well, I'll shoot, buddy. She never does what I say. Jess, don't slap yourself in the face. I'm not an idiot, Dave.

Well, that would have worked on me. My Dave? My Dave slapped yourself in the face. It worked on him. Hey Dave, why don't you know on the live episode you do this but you never in the studio audiences, you never start by going, studio audiences. Yeah. I have noticed that people, multiple people know of commented that they really enjoy that

I do that and I never noticed that I did that and I'm glad that I was bringing joy with that even knowing it. So basically we do the live episodes if you haven't heard one and as I approach the stage It's sometimes it feels like the theme song isn't enough to get the applause going that starts a live show So I approach the microphone by going And then people applaud and Well, you're not your born hype man. Yeah, I love to live to hype. Yeah, you're hot to live That's a born hype man. Yeah, I love to.

I lived a hype. Yeah, and you hyped to live. Oh, what? Anyway, shall we do this show? Yes, we should do this. Let me explain to you now, this is a show where one of the three of us is going to report on a topic to the other two.

I don't know what it is. And it's me. And it's me. That's going to report. It's me, it's the top. Pick. And you're going to start by asking a question and that question, Dave, today, tonight. I think I'm going to get it. Is. It's a top. Pick. And you're gonna start by asking a question, and that question, Dave, today, tonight.

I think I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it. No, I never get daves. He's a hard. Well, I've gone more open philosophical with this question. Fuck, that's not why I need to get it. So you can get it. Okay, so Jess, you want a specific question?

Well, it is still open. What is the most terrifying transport? Ooh. Boat, airplane. It is an airplane, that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah. It's one way I said airplane, meaning sea plane. But I got it technically by saying airplane, now I'm the idiot.

airplanes, I mean, I would have thought it would have been something like monster dog truck or something. Yeah, monster dog truck. And I wish you wouldn't say that when we just said we're flying to Sydney. I was about to say we traveled in to stay together, but I don't know if all three of us have ever been on the same flight. Why the fuck is wrong with you? I think that might be because just like the president

can travel with the vice president. And the original big bopper. But also, we don't want to fall for that again. Big boppers famously died in a plane crash. We not going to go up the three of us together to sit in the anyway. Great. Good. It's not going to happen. Yeah. I'm fine up from Tazzy because I got a gig down at Jokers if you're there on the Wednesday before whatever that date is. We should go down. We're the 22nd of August. 22nd of August. If you're in Hobart, come see me at the Jokers Comedy Club. Nice. Nice.

I think we'll all be separate on the way up. Maybe on the way back, we'll finally have the Holy Trinity on one airplane. Adorable. I can't handle it. It's just thingy. One full row of doogalons. And we can finally say, welcome to plane.

It's a deep cut. Anyway, so your report's about aeroplane. Well, one specific aeroplane. Oh. And I'm sorry, Jess, this may put you off flying for a little bit. Don't, I mean, I'm literally flying, I'm flying to see me next weekend.

Don't do that. Is it a ghost hire? Ooh, okay, I'm back on board if it is. Oh. Oh. I gasped within my gas. My normal gasp did a mini gasp inside of it. Yeah, that was cool. That was cool. Double goss. Go. All right. What plane?

So this topic was suggested by Connor Wilson from Ireland. Connor is at full metal fleece on Twitter. Go check him out. All right. So my topic is all about Yuleana Kupka. Have you ever heard of this name? No, she an aeroplane. No, but she had a brush with an aeroplane in the 1970s. She had a brush with one. Oh, yeah. That does sound good at all. Like walking down the street, they just touch shoulders. No, no, no. So she brushed her braids

with an aeroplane in the 1970s. She brushed braids. Yeah, it was the 70s, yes. That would be hard. It was a different time. You won a lot, Matt was true. We're all doing it back then. Russian brides.

I brought it in my beard. I brought my brated beard back then. Okay. I can quite do another B. Back boom. Back boom. All right. Shall we begin? No. No. This time let's just finished there. Yeah, come on Dave. Just I'm just read out the link to the Wikipedia page and then we'll just hit off Oh Dave's not a wiki boy Jess Wiki boy hasn't even heard of it Dave What is wiki boy?

Correct answer now I'm just wondering about how much information to go in to give you with this. I'm not you're going to learn it all as we go. Here we go. I reckon it'll be fun that way. I say fun. Okay. On the morning of Christmas Eve 1971. Is this an unsolved Christmas time mystery? No. Okay. 1971. In Lima, Peru. Right. The capital. Do I correct? Yes.

17-year-old Juliana Coupca. That's a good name. And Mother Maria. Coupca. Also Coupca. We're preparing to board a flight at the capital cities and you really opened it, but you were right, man.

Juliana is Coup, pronounced Cupcake in Australia. No, it's actually spelled K-O-E-P-C-K-E. And if I'm pronouncing that wrong, blame the guy on YouTube I watch pronouncing. Well done, go on with that. Thank you, guy on YouTube. Oh, yeah. I often Google word pronouncing.

Yeah, because I'm going to say her name a lot of times. Yeah, you can just say Yuleana. I can. Yeah, because I'm gonna say her name a lot of times. Yeah, you just say Yuliana. I can. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm like, yeah, I gotta get me a cupcake. And I get him. Cause I'm an independent woman, I get what I want. What a lifestyle, you like? That is a great lifestyle. What a lifestyle. I'm on a basically on a no sugar diet. That's stupid. You're in an idea.

No sugar, no alcohol. No fun. No fun. Yeah, that's enjoyment. I'm eating cupcakes whenever I see him. I feel like a real fool, but I mean, look at these abs, huh? You play baseball on these. You mean, look at these abs. Huh?

You played baseball on these. You played baseball on those abs. Wow, yeah. It's four spread out plates. Yeah. Man, I think you should get that checked. Huh. That doesn't look right.

No, it's a field of dreams. I don't know. I don't know. I said baseball. Sorry. Anyway, back to Peru in the 70s. Yes. Yuliana had the day before graduated from high school in Peru and had attended her school

prom. This all feels like lots of nice things happening. Ah, not another way. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve.

And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. And it's Christmas Eve. at the jungle research station where the family lived and worked inside the Amazon rainforest. Wow. That sounds cool.

A father hands Wilhelm. What? What a name. What? Oh Hans. Hans. Wilhelm. Hans Wilhelm. Cupca. Wilhelm Cupca. What a great name. He was a German zoologist and an anorthologist and an anorthologist he liked birds after horny for on he's an horny horny like birds oh like birds oh like birds oh like birds

oh look at him up there nesting oh Look at my thing. Nesting. I'm like this, I'm like this character. You did it. What are you asking characters? We're gonna harvest their rings. Now he was more like, yeah, birds are good, yeah. Oh birds, they are so interesting.

I must study them. Flip it, flip it, oh, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it, flip it Flippity flip. Oh, oh, oh, oh my god. The other day I watched a video of a penguin chasing a butterfly. Oh shit, it was so cute. Oh my god. What is your life cupcakes and butterfly videos? It my life to answer in one word is winzy. I'll describe it with a rainbow emoji. It was so cute. I showed everyone around me. Strangers? No, look at it. Look at it. It's a bird chasing a butterfly. So cute. He's like flapping around. He's having the best time. Oh, so cute. I think about him sometimes. Right now. He's just flippin' around. It's so cute.

I didn't show you the bit with a penguin caught the butterfly. I pulled it to wing off an Adel. No, they're just playing, they. Playing these still live happily together day. Fine. Oh, God, if you hear me chocolate, that's the wrong thing about that. Okay. Back to Hansvilleham. After graduating university with a doctorate in 1947, he was so desperate to conduct research in the South American jungle

that after World War II without a passport or any money, he dug into a cargo of salt on a shipbound for South America and hid until it arrived. He hid in the salt. Yeah, God. It was a stow away in the salt. There were worse ways to go in my opinion. I just have a little lick every other thing.

And yeah. Ooh, free salt. I feel like why is the salt so wet? Just picking up bits of salt. Oh, that's not good. Once he got to South America, he walked from one side of the content to the other just to reach Peru. That's how desperate he was. He is a bit of a badass. And as you will hear, his daughter inherited many of his badass qualities. Great. A Hansvillhelm met Julianna's mother Maria, a German-born ornithologist. She lucked birds. Look, birds. Look at him. Look, bird. She's high pitched.

Yeah, he lucked birds. So maybe we could catch up for a movie. we'll watch a movie, bitbirds. What are you working on? Alfred Hitchcock's the bird. Yeah, that seems good. What do you think of what's the birds in it? What do they steal my character? What the fuck? Oh, sorry. Patriarchy, yes. Yeah, oh, sorry, yeah, I should've known. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I should have known my place.

I'll take this one from here. I'll play the lady character. Sorry. I have so many, I'm got some of these personalities. I just forget who I am sometimes. I understand. I apologize. No, that's OK.

So do I. Oh, dude. Fuck you, but damn. Fuck off, bird lady. So sorry. We'll not be hearing from Per again. Anyway, the pair met at a university in Germany and together they lived and worked in Peru. Maria was a department head for a

university affiliated natural history museum in Lima. Both of Juliana's parents are still highly regarded in their own fields, so they were totally a power couple. Oh, I love a power couple. Totally. Okay, quickly. Top three power couples. Beyonce and Jay-Z. Okay.

Alves. Bill and Melinda Gates. Okay. Well, they've given away more money to charity than any other couple in history. Oh, yeah, that's what we're talking about charity. I'm glad. Dave, Dave, Dave, what we're talking about charity. Oh.

Dive, dive, dive, dive, dive. It doesn't get up. Kim and Kanye, Alves. Sorry, sorry. And third, um, oh, Sunny and Shae. I put ya' all a little heavy-mice. Good song. It's really fun. It's a great song.

Babe. Is that that one? Yeah. It's a good song. It's really fun. That's a great song. Babe. Is that that one? Yeah. I got you, babe. In 1955. Ah, God. Oh, sorry. In 1954, the power couple became a power trio.

When you were young. They adopted a baby. Oh, yeah. But you're the out of camera. She was born in 1954. Born in Germany, she moved with her parents to Peru and lived in a very simple hut with her family at the research station that they called Panguana.

She adapted well to the lifestyle and even had a pet toucan, a type of bird. Yeah, no, we yep. That toucan's a cute too. Oh, there's a photo of her with the two cans. It is so cute. What about, there used to be an icy poll called the two cans. Oh, good, yeah, and like, you can split them?

Yeah, they were like two stuck together. So you'd split them and you'd share them with them, mate. That were good. What a time to be alive. I know. A two cans. Did you have those in the poor Southwest?

I mean, I mean, you're from... You know, we look through binoculars that you've rich kids and then you can't almost taste it. We had single cans. There was no splitting. They came pre-split. And they were on the ground in the dirt. Yeah, okay, that's odd.

That's only because what I was... People kicked us in the face. It seems like there's all odd things to have happened. Yeah, it's pretty tough. Yeah pretty tough But I don't know what you just what I did was I'd get my two-can two sticks. I get one Throwed in the dirt. Yeah, and then I'd kick a poor poke in the face. Yeah me too. So as was tradition So Matt that may have worked out. Yeah Sorry if we have a kick two in the face Two-can there's a two-to in the face. There's a 2Kan, look, here's the Shameless plug.

Jess and I talked about a 2Kan in our episode of Primates, a podcast made in this very studio about primates from popular culture. And Jess and I talked about George of the Jungle. And without hearing all of your episodes, I'm going to say it's the greatest one. It did feel it was one of the most fun for sure, maybe the most fun. Obviously, I don't want to shine anyone else in the room. We can also hear a 2Kan on my podcast, 2Kan, play that game.

And start a solo pod, so. Hey, do you know the name of this 2Kan by any chance? Or you just know that she had a pet 2Kan? Joseph. Fuck off. I love animals with human names. Joey 2Kan. It sounds like a mobster. Yeah, hey Joey Tukan Hey, hey, I'm Joey Tukan over here. I'm talking here

That's great Totally I made that up. I made that up. It wasn't called Joseph It is now it is now You went straight for Joseph. Yeah, his real name was Trent. Trent the Duke. Trent. Trent. Trent.

He's not coming back. She was at first home school before attending a German speaking school in Lima. The capital of Peru, I already mentioned. She also spoke Spanish. Great. So she can dress with the locals as well. Yeah, she's got a two-can. She's gone to Lima and she speaks Spanish, triple threat. She's amazing.

Oh, when not at school, she spent a lot of her time mastering skills in the jungle, canoeing and also caring for the animals. She was most at home amongst the wildlife at the dense and sprawling Amazon rainforest around her. She sounds like... Georgia the jungle. Only can speak more than... Broken English. Yeah, she can speak fluent German and fluent Spanish.

Possibly also broken English, I'm not sure. Yeah, probably. To Georgia's level, probably. So back to Christmas Eve, 1971, as I spoke about the start, Yuliana and her mother Maria were set to catch Lancer Flight 508 from Lima, Peru to Pucolpa in the Amazon Rainforest. It was only a one hour flight. The airline, Lancer, had already had two aircraft lost in previous crashes. In 1966.

That's good. In 1966, a Lancer flight had crashed in Peru and all 49 people on board perished. So what year was that? 1966. That is a very good year. Did you guys know that that is the St. Kilda Football Club one there? Why not only the FL Premiership? I met someone for the first time the other day and a group were talking about Fuddy and she said She was in Kilda fan and she said yeah, we've only won one one Premiership and I went ah 1966 and she went oh do you go for the safe as well? I was like no No, no many years. I can tell you but I hear about it constantly Sorry, it's also the year that England won their one-on-one the World Cup in the football soccer. Which still rings true.

Still rings true. Two-zone day. And weeks ago. That's going to take years before. Anyway, 1966 I've playing crashed. Yes. Lancer. Then in 1970, less than 18 months before Julianne's flight, Lancer flight 502 crashed killing

over 100 people. I reckon don't book flights with them. Only the co-pilot survived. So how convenient. It was co-pilot survived. Oh, how convenient. It was an inside job for sure. His injector seat worked. Quick, inject the heroin. This is going to be awful if I'm conscious.

That actually sounds really handy. I mean, if you're going down and on. Oh, man, I would take that. That's the time I draw heroin would that's the time I try Everyone That's a time I go straight to man There's two oxygen mask drop down and one was like laughing gas and mom was oxygen. I'd grab the laughing Oh, yeah, just need to become all laughing

Yeah, like a maniac bit giggly. It's gonna be giggly. We're going down It's going to be giggly. We're going down. We're all going to die. So everyone knew Lancer had a terrible reputation, including the cupcakes who were very wary of the airline, but they desperately wanted to be with their husband and father for Christmas. Every other flight was booked out. Her father asked them not to fly a Lancer, but her mother said, I think it will be okay. Well, you don't want to say think.

You don't want to say think. You don't want to think. Now, I cannot explain how dodgy this airline was, but I'm going to give a shot. After the airlines. It was BYU Chair. Well, how do the airlines... No, that's Ryanair. After the airline's second crash, an investigation discovered that the mechanics that looked after the plane's engines had previously only repaired motorcycle engines.

Very good. They're similar. And some of the pilots didn't even have licenses. Okay. And to make things worse, they often carried more passengers than they were legally allowed to. Sure. So when the plane crashed, that meant more people more, you know, more people died than that too. So the net to their. They're obviously this amount of people have to

die. Yeah. But then we've killed extras. They also flew exclusively a type of plan called the Lockheed L-188 Electra. This type of plan was introduced in 1957. And over the next 50 years, 58 out of the 170 electros would be written off because of crashes and other accidents. That's more than one in three of them crashes or had an accident. That's missed. And two out of three of theirs had already crashed. And since the two Lancers crashes, the airline only had one plane left. When you said two out of three, oh, right, not two out of three flights, but two out of the three planes they had. Yeah. So the cause of only got one, they've got two Lancers crashes. They've only got one plane left for the whole airline. That's

incredible. So it had to do continuous round trips. What the matter of time. Are they only flying, do you reckon they're only flying from one place to another? No, they're doing a few different cities. They're doing a Costco and the Peruvian Mountains. This place that Juliana's going to, and then also Lima. And flats were expensive back then, right? Yeah, it's cost a lot. And also they're flying over the Andes Mountains. They're flying over a rainforest,

and that often means like, because at the bottom of the mountains, that often attract storms because of changing altitude and air and stuff. So on this particular day the plane was seven hours late. That's promising. So everyone was tired, angry and desperate to get home for Christmas. Because it was so late the two flights after Yuleanas were cancelled because the people had to wait for that plane to go to their place then come back. So they said we're not going to be able to come back. Yeah.

So her and her mother felt lucky and overjoyed because they were able to go home because they were on the one of the three flights that day that weren't canceled. They were like, yeah. So the plane took off about noon with 86 passengers and six crew members. You'll be on a satin row 19, two from the back sitting in seat F against the window. Her mother was in the middle seat and a large Peruvian gentleman in her own words had the aisle seats in her own words. And he immediately fell asleep. No, but like if she has those words and if we know where she was sitting she shouted it from the plane. Okay, I stay corrected. And of course

people notice that kind of thing and write it down in their diaries, which are published many years later. Everything seemed normal for the first 25 minutes of the flight. Food came around and everything seemed pretty run-of-the-mill. Then when they're traveling at 21,000 feet, the plane entered heavy dark cloud. Juliana's mother was nervous, but Juliana herself didn't mind flying. It didn't think anything of it. That was until 10 minutes later, when the plane experienced severe turbulence.

It was so bad that it was obvious to all that something was going horribly wrong. Overhead luggage compartments opened in baggage, packed with Christmas presents and Christmas cakes, shower with the cake. Oh no, cake shower. There's a cake going everywhere. Oh yum Yeah. That is that good or bad. I'm conflicted because that would be fun That'd be real Perfect. Just the icing. It's got you out of her hand. Yeah For a second I was imagining it like it was there on like some sort of space shuttle and you you could let float around to get the cape, but gravity still applies here.

Yeah. Yeah. The luggage flew around them and the passengers began to cry and scream out. Juliana held her mother's hand, but neither of them said a word. Then the lightning started. And it seemed to strike all around the plane.

It was pitch black. And the lightning was the only thing that lit up the cabin. Juliana looked out the window and saw an incredibly, incredibly bright light hit one of the engines and heard her mother scream, that is the end, it's all over. There's a lot of first-hand accounts here, Jess. I didn't pick that up, but that's... You always picked that up, though.

Not this time, that's got to be good news. It's got to be good news. Unless there was a big audio recorder. That would be the last word she ever heard her mother say. Oh. Although it is not uncommon for engines to be hit by a lot of it. What do you record her? That would be the last words she ever heard her mother say. Oh. Although it is not uncommon for engines to be hit by lightning. Because she went deaf. I think it was.

And lives a very normal life. Right Dave? I can't confirm nor deny, as I often won't commit to either. Damn. Although it's not uncommon for engines to be hit by lightning, the electro aircraft they were on wasn't built for flying in heavy turbulence due to its very rigid wings. So...

This is... It's a piece of shit, Brian. It's a piece of shit run by a piece of shit airline. Fucking hell. They're still around, I assume. We'll talk about that. Oh, no. Are the planes...

So tell you who we booked us to go to Sydney with? No, Dad! Just because they were cheap to go to Sydney with. No, dad. Just because they were cheap. Yeah, we're flying by the jungle. So 19 hour round trip, even that would be quick. The plane went up and then into a heavy nose dive. Oh, no. As the passengers began to scream and terror, it was pitch black at this point.

They were falling into darkness and then the plane began to loudly disintegrate around them. Suddenly, for Yuliana, the noise stopped, replaced by a wind flying past her ears. She had momentarily passed out, but when she came to, she realized she was outside of the plane. She was flying through the air in a free fall, still strapped to earth, row of three seats. Her mother and the man sitting next to them had both been ejected and she was all alone. As she fell, Yuleana could see the green jungle canopy below spinning towards her. She described it as being like broccoli.

She described it. Again, she yelled it really well. She did. To a reporter on the ground. They looked like broccoli! They're like, she is not okay. She's not okay. You're right up there, kid.

Broccoli everywhere! They're like, she is not okay. You're right up there, kid. Run, go away everywhere. Say it again. But record what's in on. She had no- She ejected her row of seats. Injected. Oh, so you injected that bloody hell.

Also, she's very high at this point. She's taken a lot of crack. That's, you can't do that anymore. That feels like a cool function. Where are you ejecting through the roof? No, no, no, the plane is just falling apart around her. She has not hit a jet. She's just been ejected. Right. I find that crazy that the plane is just falling apart. The turbulence, because it was so rigid. It was so bad. And yeah, what's it? This plane is not designed to go through crazy storms and wind, which is just

just full the parts that have any give. Yeah, was it because the engine's been taken out, it went into a nose dive and it's flying so fast, practically straight down. The air is just a rip in a distress. And then why big like tall scar scrapers will have, they'll have given them. So they, they go with the wind. If they were rigid, they would just snap in half. Basically, that's what's happened to you.

It snapped. So she's flying through the air, looking at the broccoli, she had no time to be afraid. It all just happened very quickly. The seat belt squeezed there so tightly that she couldn't breathe, that she blacked out and lost consciousness. Oh, is that, I wonder if there's a parachute on this

row of chairs. That would be very convenient. Otherwise. They should have parachutes on planes. Yeah, just on everything. Yeah, good point. Everything on the trip. Yeah. I saw two guys trip on the exact same step at the gym today. And I was like, I don't know, I just see one of the gym, though. Yeah, I did. I'm sorry. If they had had a parachute, would either of them be alive today? Maybe.

We'll have enough. Again, I cannot confirm nor deny. Did you orderly laugh her out? No, I just did a little, I mean the steps were all lit up like there's They really go to a lot of effort to make the step visible. Yeah, well, I didn't say it. Okay, so I'm sorry I mean idiot would trip a step. Oh Okay, so now I'm an editor. It's not your name. Yeah Shut up.

I know you are, but what am I? That's a classic. I'm probably used to use that one a lot. Anyway, Dave, sorry to go on. So something obviously very dramatic has just happened. She's been ejected, she's fallen through the sky. What the fuck? What the fuck?

Your honor had just fallen more than three kilometers or two miles to the ground. Amazingly, the next day she woke up and looked up into the canopy of the jungle. You know that is the exact distance of the Melbourne carp. She fell the Melbourne carp. She was definitely thinking that as she was falling. Which is all. So how did she know it was the next day that she'd woken up? She believes that she had hit the ground about lunchtime,

been passed out all afternoon, all night, and then woken up the next day. Right. I reckon she's just woken up. Anyway. Straight away. She was underneath the seats and covered in earth and mud from the rain that had showered her unconscious body all night.

She called for her mother but all she heard was the sound of the jungle spreading out for miles and miles and miles around her. She had lost her glasses but she relied on quite heavily. So she's a square. Up for eyes. Well no longer. She's now cool. Normal. Normal. I'm wearing my glasses right now for those. Yeah. Before you tweeted me, I also wear glasses. I didn't fully get the, I didn't fully get what just was saying then. I'm like, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, I'm saying. She'd lost her glasses. She was only wearing a self-described sleeveless, skimpy mini skirt and one sandal.

Many skirts have sleeves. No. Sleeveless mini skirts. To be addressed. It's got to be addressed. It's a mini dress. They've just does not get fash on. Hey, I said self-described.

That's what she described her outfit as. Yeah, true. I would describe it as flaming and one sandal. One sandal. The other one had come off in the crash. Interesting. She was suffering from recombinant and could barely see. I left I was swollen shut. She couldn't see well out of her right eye. And also she didn't have her glasses. She'd also had a fractured collarbone, which she could see through the skin, but apparently didn't hurt. She had some deep gashes across her body. She had a ruptured ligament, but was able to walk.

Although it did take her a few times to get up because she was so concussed everything was spinning around every time she tried to stand up. Oh, that's not a good feeling. Now, you're probably wondering how the hell does someone fall from a plane the height of the Melbourne cup without a parachute and survive? That is what we were thinking. Well, Yuleana herself has three theories as to how she survived. of the Melbourne Cup without a parachute and survive. That is what we were thinking. Well, Yuleana herself has three theories

as to how she survived. Love it, mole people. Number one is mole people. Yeah, Yuleana, she gets it. Big puffy broccoli. You just bounce around the tub of that. Yeah, I love broccoli. I'm sorry.

I'm not broccoli too. You can just eat it. Eat it raw, eat it cooked. Eat it that sweet spurt in the middle where it's not quite cooked'm not broccoli too. You can just eat it raw, eat it cooked, eat it that sweet spot in the middle where it's not quite cooked, not quite raw. You can roast it, you can steam it, you can chuck it at a stir fry, yum, yum, yum. It's a wonder plant. A wonder plant as a German people.

As a Hans-Villhelm. Yes. Wunder plant. Oh, I'm so sorry. Juliana, eat your wonder plant. Oh, I'm so sorry. You Leanne eat your wonder plant. Yeah So three theories number one she fell on a large jumping castle Now these are the real theories are during storms I kid I kid During storms, I've got you we got pumped right here on live TV

Sorry, Ashley, ashton you mr. Cue during storms jumping castles are often blown into the others God he's so good. Somebody stop me! I have a drink at my voice. Okay, serious ones. Serious answers only. Serious suggestions only. All right, good. Drink storms. Jumping houses can be inflated to twice the usual capacity. No, drafts of air are known to be sucked upwards into the sky and this could have slowed her falls. So she's coming down, air's coming up.

Yeah, okay. Maybe. Second theory is that she fell, when she fell, she was wildly spinning. Remember the broccoli was spinning around. The role of chairs, she was trapped too, because she was in the middle, so she was on the, sorry,

may have spun like a helicopter. Slowed. What? Both of those are sick. And finally you are going to get there. You can go for theory number three if you like, lock one in. And finally she fell on thick finds that were entwined between trees and the thick Amazon jungle. And this really could have cushioned and slowed her fall. And I made this sound burr. Burr.

Yep. What number noise was that? That was number one, baby. Number one, canopy, saving woman's life. Number one with a bullet. Oh, bullet, did you say? Buh. I think my mum's personal favourite, there was banger.

Banger. You've got many bullets in the repertoire. I think my mum's personal favourite, there was BANGER. BANGER! You've got many bullets in the repertoire. Sorry. I think it was a group of Guardian Angels. A group of, yes. The group that got her and flopped their wings and gently put her down and then broke her leg. Put her down.

Oh no! No, just like a leg. Put her down. Oh no. No, just like... They lay her down. And when she wouldn't pay up, because this was cause of fee, they broke her leg. You pay up or we break down. And they stole it glasses. And then did they repair her leg and break her collarbone? Yes.

She had some sort of ligament. She had a sore ligament, that's right. You're right. Idiot. You pay up or I will damage one of your of ligament. She had a sore ligament, that's right, you're right. Eww, idiot. You pay up or I will damage one of your leg ligaments. And walking will be possible, but uncomfortable. Quite uncomfortable. Hmm, yeah, that's what I thought.

Yeah, that's what I thought. You would pay. Okay, so parents' research station was only about 30 miles away from her body had landed. But to travel through the thick jungle, it can take hours to just get a few hundred meters, and that's where the machete and proper clothing. So she's got nothing. Oh my god. During a time at the station, her father taught her a lot about the jungle. Unlike nearly anyone else I can imagine in this situation, she didn't panic. She could hear planes flying overhead, obviously searching for survivors, but the jungle canopy was

so thick that she knew they couldn't possibly see her. The jungle was so dense that the authorities couldn't even see where the plane had crashed. It was like it just been swallowed up by the jungle. Usually there's like a flaming wreckage somewhere and they can be like, there it is, you know, there's bits of it, but they couldn't see it. Wow, that's kind of cool. Yeah, but that makes it so thick that maybe that canopy of vines or whatever theory. Maybe so.

Yeah, it could be possible that all those things happen. Yes, it could be a combination of all three of those things that just basically. Four of those things, Guardian Angels. Yes, basically it's a miracle. A lot of people. The biggest miracle, of course, being Guardian Angels. Yes. But Julianna knew how to deal with the jungle.

And knowing that no one was going to find her, she now knew she had to find help herself. She remembered that when she was a young girl, an American man had gotten into trouble on a hike into the Sierra Mountains, not far from her family's research station. The American had accidentally shot himself in the leg, and his group sent one of the members to go get help. However, he soon became lost in the jungle, the guy looking for help. Luckily,

he found a small river, and knowing that most of the time, small streams usually lead to larger rivers, and if you follow a large river, you'll usually come across civilization. Sure. He did this in eventually two days later, found his way to Yuleana's family's research station, and they were all rescued. She never forgot this story and its lessons for those lost in the jungle. Find a stream, hit a river, find the people. Remember that. And if this podcast saves one life in the Amazon rainforest,

we will take your million dollar reward. Yes, please pay up. Should you say it's a lot of a millionaire. Vigilian air. Oh, Vigilian air. And then they give us millionaire, a billionaire. Oh, a billionaire. And then they give us a million dollars each. I wasn't listening. What was the three steps?

Find a stream. Find a river. Find the people. Stream river people. Three simple steps. What if you, is it, is it an issue if you get straight to the river, say can you just go river bit or just find the people? If you find the people, keep walking till you find a river. No, stream. If you find a river then you know you're on the right

track defining a stream, which will get you back to the river, which will get you to the people. Yes, and if Matt saves one life on this podcast, if you don't collect all three in order, you will start again. You will not make it. You will not survive. When she was able to get to her feet, she realized that she could hear the sound of running water. Oh, that's convenient. Probably you'd have been there, she'd been there for hours and hadn't really noticed

the sound of suddenly her ears sort of became a tune to it and she went, hang on, I can hear water. And she followed it, hoping to find a large river. The only food that she was able to find around her was a bag of candy that had fallen from the plane, and a Christmas cake that landed near her. The sweets were edible, but the Christmas cake was covered in water and mud. And it wasn't completely smashed, like that would be a smushed cake.

Yeah, when she tasted it, it tasted so bad that she left it behind. She wrote it, later realized that this was a very, very full list because she should have taken every morsel of food with her, no matter how badly it tastes. But at the time, she had no idea how long she'd been in the jungle for. The sweets ran out on day four. So she rashed in them. She's clever. Yeah, I can never do that with sweet. Imagine living on sweets as well. Oh, that would be great. Like just the, that's the only food you're getting.

It would make you stomach feel weird. It would be great. Yeah. So she began to walk through the jungle and in all her time throughout this year, only came across other people from the plane once. That's how spread out everything was. A four days after waking up in the jungle, she heard the noise of a landing king vulture.

She knew though only land when there was a lot of meat available and instantly knew it was landing to eat a dead body. Oh, wow. only land when there was a lot of meat available and instantly knew it was landing to eat a dead body. Oh wow. So she knew she was... She knew... Oh, because she... Dead parents love birds. Yeah, she knows a lot about birds. King Vulture, that's... So she knows what a King Vulture is. I'd never heard a King Vulture. Yeah. But the ones with her neck, they're sort of... Fuffy neck. neck. Now the ones with the crown. Oh, really? And a cape.

So you've got to be, it's like it's full-born into it, royalty. Yeah, you've got a bow. And just and I would respect that, but you wouldn't. Yeah, fuck the crane. Or the king, king of vulture. That's what they are, royal family body vultures. Yeah, the king of all vultures.

So she had this vulture. She soon came across three bodies, still trapped, strapped to their chairs. They'd hit the ground so hard that Yuliana could only see feet sticking out from where they made the impact with the earth. Obviously, whatever made her survive hadn't happened to these people. They'd just smashed into the ground as you would expect anything that falls to Mars from the sky. Just gross and awful. She wanted to make sure that none of the house from the sky. It's just gross and awful.

She wanted to make sure that none of the bodies was her mother, despite the fact that later realizing why would her mother have changed seats midair, but she still, at the time, thought I've got a check. So she grabbed a stick and turned one of the bodies' feet over. It was a woman, but her toenails were painted, something that her mother never did. So she was satisfied. It was a different person. She felt relieved, and at the same time guilty for feeling relieved about someone else's dying. What a strange feeling. No, it would be. That's fair. She followed the stream and reached a large river, but was disappointed to realize that this river was not navigable, and therefore

she wouldn't quickly find people along it. It was really windy, and it just didn't look like people would live along that. She had to continue to follow it downstream. She swam, waited and floated through the now deep water of this large river, often seeing crocodiles in Gritza 2 or 3. Oh shit. Oh no, I've got my blood pumping. Imagine that. Imagine surviving all that to get done by a crocodile. So they'd just be sitting along the banks and all dive into the water towards her when they saw her. Most people would flee into the jungle at this point. But Yuliana held her ground and kept swimming knowing that going to the jungle was certain death. You couldn't get anywhere. She sounds like the smartest person. What a ledge. Wow. She also knew from

a time at the research station that this type of Cayman crocodile are almost always afraid of humans. And rather than diving at her, they were diving into the water to hide and she would feel them swim underneath her. Oh. So she's just holding a nerve.

She knows, what kind of crocodile is this? A Cayman crocodile. Cayman crocodile. They're more scared of you. They're vegetarians. Okay, cool. That's interesting. Creepy though.

Yeah, that would be, that would be a rush. Oh, fuck. Wouldn't your heart be pounding? You know, you'd be shitting yourself. Oh, your ass would be pounding too. Everything's pounding. My ass is pounding.

My collarbone feels fine, but my ass is pounding. Oh my god. She was most wary of poisonous stingrays hiding at the bottom of the muddy water. So whenever the water level... This river has fucking everything. It's reminding me of that episode of The Simpsons where, um, what was the, the, um, Day Devil? We've talked about this, that's the jump! That's murder!

It's murder, I got to jump the pool, judge sharks in it, and like, electric eels, and that's what it was all about. Oh, it's okay. So that's basically this river. So she was worried. The water level when it was shallow enough to weigh, she would carry a large stick and poke the water in front of her in case these stingrays were there. These stingrays were the only animals at the forefront of their mind.

Not the snakes, crocod mind, not the snakes, crocodiles, piranhas, spiders, jaguars, or scorpions that she was also likely to come across in the jungle. What about those ones that, those little fish things that swim up your dick hole? As it always come back to them. It always does. It's been a while since we mentioned them. And I'm glad you brought them back to our tent.

Was it you who taught me about them? Was it me who was I think one of us would have found them when we were working in in um for for a quiz show. Sure. They are a mirror. They are a myth. But what a what a man. What a man. My legacy could be to come up with a myth like that.

My God. I would die. Happy man. I see travel downstream. Capca discovered more wreckage from the plane, just little bits and pieces here and there. Sadly, no food. She also saw a fly, planes flying overhead over the first nine days, but when this stopped, she theorized that the search had been called off.

Sadly, she was right. The authorities had given up on fighting any survivors. She was all alone, she knew now more than ever that she was gonna have to be the one to save herself. This is a good time to remind everyone that she's only 17 years old and has one sandal and no survival tools whatsoever. I feel like we've talked about a lot of bad asses,

but at the moment, she's gotta be towards the top. Yeah. The baddest of all. And I never heard her name before. No, neither. Crazy. Admittedly, I'd never heard of Nilly any of the names. Good point. Of the badasses?

Yeah, the bad. Yeah, good point. Most of the badasses are from the world or two as well. Yeah. Which obviously is a whole other thing. But yeah, she's a smart. lot like I reckon a lot of people would have made so many different worst choices so far. So a lot of people, possibly I've heard people's theorized

about this would have just stayed in the spot hoping to find help, but she knew in that dense jungle and no one was gonna see it. So she'd see these planes and there's no way to signal them. She didn't have a flare on way to signal them. Correct. She didn't have a flare on her by any chance? Yes.

And she didn't use it. There was no left sandal. Oh no. She had a flare for fashion. She was falling, you mean? She had a flare for survival. She sure did. I need to hear more, please keep going.

That's so cool. At night, just before nightfall, she'd get out of the river and she'd need to find a place to sleep. She'd look for something that protected her back like a tree trunk and then would cover herself with leaves for a bit of protection. It would often rain all night long. Oh my god. The cold droplets felt like stinging needles as they hit her skin, which sounds terrible, but if it didn't rain, it was probably worse as that meant mosquitoes would almost eat her alive all night.

Oh. Yeah, but like a bit of mist rain would be okay, you know? Half way. That kind of misty rain. Yeah. That'd be all right. Yeah, is that too much of us? That's quite nice.

Oh, hot night. Yeah, a little mist. A little mist, though. Off to sleep, I go. No, no, I should. No, no. I think it would be horrible to be cut shrouded in mist all night long. It's okay if I was hot enough, it'd be alright.

And if your back was protected by a tree or something. Yeah, and you're covered in leaves or something. Yeah, if you're on a water bed. Yeah, you don't want to. Yeah, if you're feeling a mist and you're sleepy on a water bed. Something's going wrong. Yeah. You're probably sharing with Edward Sussanhand. I'm going to like. I'm going to like. Patch that lake. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now.

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Okay, I need to ask, do you mean species of bird or specific bird? Is it Jonathan? That bird. It's a Joseph. Joseph. Joseph, Joseph Lewin saved her. He was looking for a, he never gave up. He never gave up despite the planes. No, she heard a bird, she recognized a crested chicken.

What's a crested chicken sound like? I think you already did it before. Ah! Yeah, that's what it would be. Yeah. She knew that from any other person. Yeah, she's like, oh, that's a crested chicken. Crested chicken, a jungle chicken.

Is it a kind of chicken? It is a, I don't really know much about the crested chicken. I mean, it feels like it's a kind of chicken. There would be other questions from us. We're not gonna just say. I don't really know much about the Christopher. I mean, it feels like they kind of chicken. There would be other questions from us. We're not gonna just see. We're not gonna let you get by with a Christopher chicken. Fact drop.

Come on, mate. Come on, mate. Do you know us at all? Jesus, the waves. Christopher, chicken. Buk-buk-buk-buk-buk. I made it a jingle. What?

What have you done? It's the one I'm looking at. It's also known as the reptile bird, skunk bird or stink bird. I wish she'd called it a stink bird. So really she smelt a bird she recognized. You gave it the friendliest of the names. Oh, stink bird. Crested chicken sounds almost like majestic.

Magistically delicious. I want to know what I'm saying. Stinkbird on the other hand. Stinkbird. Was it who was a skunkbird? So maybe it gives off some kind of stench like a skunk does. That's my guess. I mean, that's, yes, skunk makes you think that, not stink.

I mean, stink's even more directly. Yeah, a good point. Hey, check out the stink boards over here. Like, Mordy. That's how me a stink boy. Do you mean a skunk boy? No, I mean a stink boy. Are you talking about a crested chicken boy? Oh, Mordy. Mr. Chicken Boy? Oh, Monty! And soon. Wow.

Unhappy couple, I guess. Unhappy. Yeah, yeah. Unhappy couple theater. Yeah, thank you. Unmoved. So she heard the Christopher Chicken AK, Skunk AK, Stingbird.

She knew that they lived along larger bodies of water. So when she heard their call, she knew she had to follow the sound of this to find a larger body of water. Larger she heard their call, she knew she had to follow the sound of this to find a larger body of water. Larger than the river she's already in. And hopefully, civilization. Wow. She found a long and winding river.

A long and winding river. River. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. Who's that? My least favorite of all the Beatles number ones. Really? Yeah. I just can't get into it. Yeah. This is my least favorite of all the Beatles number ones It's too dooo I just can't get into it. Yeah, I just hear it and think shit What do you think sorry?

Shit And I'll tell Paul to his face wow I wouldn't even think of it. Matt just looked up a picture of it. Oh, that's a stink boy. Chris, the Crested Chicken, and it's amazing. It's got like a... That's a party, boy. What a hairdo.

Yeah. That is amazing. It's got a party, dude. Party, dude. It does look like a very 70s book. Yeah, yeah. It does not exist now. No, it died December 31st, 1979. Okay, okay.

She found a long and winding road and traveled down it for days. Sadly, she had no idea that another nearby river that travels in the opposite direction has boats traveled down it all throughout the year. If this had been the river she'd found, she most likely would have found help within a couple of days. However, there are several offshoots of this main river that travel deep into uninhabitable jungle. So she'd been accidentally washed down any of them she may have never been found. Is it a waste, Westerlyn Peru? Yes. Deepest darkest Peru? Yes. Paddington. Paddington Country. It is, this seems like a very... Is this the origin story of Paddington. Paddington country. It is, this seems like a very...

Is this the origin story of Paddington? I'm getting to the bear! By the 10th day, she couldn't stand properly and just drifted along the edge of the large river. She recalled, I felt so lonely, like I was in a parallel universe far away from any human being. I see into the quote. She never felt hungry, but without any source of food, her body was starting to give up on her. Yeah.

You'd be, you'd get to a point of over hungry. So you wouldn't really be feeling hunger anymore, but you'd, she'd be so weak. And I think she's just like in this headspace of must survive, must survive, keep going, keep going. But it gets to a point where your body's like, I need energy. And did you try and eat the stink boy? No, no. I think it would be difficult for it to catch with their bare hands. Probably can't eat it. She's got bare hands. Is she patting it? Yeah. You hate yourself. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. That does not say much. He's an idiot. This is all true. That's not the idiot voice, Dave. Yeah, I think it is. That I do. Is that what I sound like?

Oh my god. It's like the most animated your face ever gets. It's full mouth open. On the 10th night, she found a place to sleep on the side of the river. Now so weak, she didn't even notice a boat tied up in front of it. She's just sort of zoning in and out, basically semi-conscious. That would feel like a mirage. When she came to, she noticed a small boat thinking that it was an hallucination. So she sort of put her hands out and touched it and was

like, oh my God, it's a boat. It's a very small boat. She looked around for people, but instead saw a steep in-bankment with a hut above it. She tried to get up the in-bankment, but was so tired, it took her hours just to get up this little hill. It's very muddy and she had to sort of just basically roll up. With a broken collarbone too.

Yeah, oh, she it. Eventually she got into the hut. She saw a boat engine wrapped in plastic, but no people, and being so tired, she it. Eventually she got into the hut. She saw a boat engine wrapped in plastic, but no people, and being so tired, she just fell asleep. That's still, what a sick point. That would be the best sleep she's out in the world. Oh, oh. One of her injuries was a gash in her arm.

It was really deep, but it didn't bleed. So it was probably like a piece of metal or something, it cut it deeply. It was so deep that a fly had laid its eggs in the wound. Oh, damn it. Yuck. Magnus had a hatch in there. Oh, no.

Yuck. This is out of here, maggots. They're one centimeter long. The Dave shot up. One centimeter long maggots. Inside the wound. Yuck. Hey, Subbom.

Stop it. She was terrified that if she survived all this, she was going to lose her. She was going to lose her baby maggots. Oh. She was prepared to do whatever it takes to stop her from losing her own arm. She remembered that once her father had treated a dog's wound that had become infested with maggots by putting kerosene onto the wound. Oh.

So she sucked. I don't want to lose my arm. I'm going to set it a lot with kerosene. Oh my god Dave, Dave don't say that next sentence. I'm going to read. Don't. Oh, don't. It's not that bad. It is. You said sucked.

She sucked gasoline out of the boat engine in the hut and then poured it into her wound. Yuck. The pain was intense as the maggots tried to get further into her. Oh, how you piece of shit? No. Then, fuck, she's such a boss. She pulled 30 maggots out of her wound. One by one.

Yeah. Her magic was like chopsticks or something. How was she doing it? She's getting in there. Just getting her whole hand in. Yeah. Wow. Pinch my mouth. Probably a couple of fingers. She is the biggest bad old. She's such a...

Oh my God. That's disgusting. Then when it was all over, she was proud of herself and went back to sleep. What a legend. Yeah. Yeah. What happens now? The maggots are going like, cuss clear, and they all jump back in. Go back in. Go back in. Oh, that's disgusting. No, that is... What's the kerosene do then? Survival. It's like basically cleans the wound and kills the maggots. So she pulled out dead maggots?

Yeah, so they're sort of drowning and it's sort of fencing the wound. Yeah. I don't think it's the drowning. Otherwise, it could have just been water. Yeah, well, I think it's yeah, I guess it's poisoning them. Okay. Yeah. Don't try to try to modicule us Dave. Yeah, we can take it on. Doesn't sell that we can. I can't. Should I go on or should we stop there? Oh, I'm... That was sick. In nearly every... Every, every thing. Let's move on from that. So you went to sleep.

The next day, she suddenly heard voices of several men outside the heart. No. To her, they sounded like angels. Uh-oh. She knew she was... You called it, you called it, Jess. Got in angels.

I know that I'm scared. Are they safe men? When this group of Peruvian lumberjacks first saw her, they freaked out and stopped talking immediately. They thought that Yuleana was some kind of water goddess, a figure from local legend who was a hybrid of a water dolphin and a blonde white skinned water. As opposed to a land dolphin.

I may have taken out River Dolphin, who knows. But when she spoke to them in Spanish and explained what had happened, they'd heard about the plane crash, obviously. They treated her wounds and gave her food. She rested up in the next day, they started to take her back to civilization by boat, which took several hours. Oh my God! Her eyes were so bloodshot by this point that the people she encountered along the way

thought she was some kind of devil. Merged with a water dolphin. What dolphin? No! A land dolphin. Space dolphin. Space dolphin flying through the sky. I'm a space dolphin.

The next day, the space dolphin was reenacted with their father. No, they held each other very tightly. No way. She had spent 11 days alone in the Amazon rainforest. I remember 17 years old. Oh my God. I see. Isn't the story just crazy? That's insane. She became known as the Miracle Girl and was hounded by Peruvian media and became world famous for a story of survival. One journalist was so desperate to get an interview that she pretended to be a nurse at the hospital. That's no good.

That is unethical. She received hundreds of letters from people she'd never met before. Some of the letters were simply addressed, Yuleana, Peru, but they all found her way to her. When you heard a good question. She's like, share now. She's the Yuleana. So that's some great news. Wow. Yuleana and her father waited for news of what had happened to her mother. Yeah. On January 12th, news came that her mother's body had been found in the jungle. Alive.

Sadly not. Though all this, I don't like this bit. Juliana let her discover in a letter written by her father that her mother also initially survived the crash. It was badly injured and couldn't move. So she may have died several days later, which was really awful for obviously to think about. Why tell the dad that?

Well, basically he knew that because he had to identify the body. Right. And when he saw the body because he's a man of science, he was like, if she's been gone for two weeks in humid weather, she'd be really decomposed, but she looks quite fresh. So she's probably alive for a long time. Oh. I also read somewhere that they discovered

that as many as 14 others may have survived the initial crash, but when I'm able to seek help and died awaiting rescue'm waiting rescue. So awful. I know. But that is like, it feels like that is almost what authorities would have told you to do. In something like that, stay close.

Is that? I don't know. I wouldn't know what to do. Normally, like, if you get lost in the bush, people they say stay put. My mom used to say that in the shopping center. Yeah. If you get lost, stay put say that in the shopping center. Yeah. Forget lost, stay put and I'll find you. Yeah, but Jess, she needed to survive.

First you must find a stream, then a river, then you find the people. Then you find a staff member at Target. First you get to get your floating down the river. Target. Help me. Help. Can you please page my mom?

Okay, what's your mom's name? I don't know, I'm for just say mum. Mum. I don't even figure out her name yet. Mum's have names? Just page mum, she'll know. She knows I call her that. Sometimes I have to call mum Annie now we were out.

Because if I go mum, she doesn't turn around anymore. I'm like, are you ashamed of me? She's a mum. I don't know, maybe. Been too long. Yeah, she's trying to forget. I'm like, are you ashamed of me? Or... I don't know, maybe. It's been too long. Yeah, she's trying to forget. I'm like, oh, Annie, and then she turns. Oh, she turns all right.

Mama. Mama. Bit of aftermath, not surprisingly, after this third crash, Lancer Airlines ceased operating. Interesting, because they, no, not because of any kind of legal ramifications, because they ran out of fucking planes I've got no planes left. We've decided with the current circumstances. I not having any planes where Probably gonna take a little break on our terms. Yeah, and we're gonna go back to fixing motorcycle engines

That's crazy It's not just absolutely crazy that airlines like that could exist Some I mean there are some crazy airlines all around. Do you know, the Libyan National Airline is banned from most international airports. For example, you can't fly the Libyan Air Carrier to say London or something because a lot of the planes don't have lines. Isn't that just the National Air Carrier? Isn't that just crazy?

How are you going you probably need them? Yeah. Oh, do you have them? Yeah, especially if you're not. Not flights. Not flights. What about inside the plane? Inside the plane?

No, not. No, reading lights. How, well, I read. You get a torch. One per row. That's fine. Look at how much you sell. And then just hold it up.

Like an old school torch, like flame. I was many, one of those camping ones you have to wind. You wind for 20 minutes to get two minutes of light. I've never been camping. We can talk. Yuleanna initially returned to study in Lima, but journalists continued to hunt her and her father suffered a panic attack. So sent her to live and study back in Germany

where she fully recovered from her injuries. Like her parents, she studied biology at the University of Kiel in Germany, graduating in 1980. She received a doctorate from Lordwig Maximilian University, great name, and returned to Peru to conduct research in mommology, specializing in bats, so she became a bat expert. Mommology. I love it. Brilliant. I don't know what that is. Oh, study, if you bat expert. Mommology, I love it. Brilliant. I don't know what that is. Oh, study, if you say it, ring down, it's mammals. Ah, mammology. Got it. I was like, mammology.

Yeah, no, it's a weird thing. Being a mum. Honestly, you say it, ring down, you're like, I don't know whether it is. You say that, Leo? I'm an expert in mum. Mammology, got it. Oh, cool, bats, bats are her thing. In 2012, she published a memoir called

When I Fell From the Sky. So for a long time she didn't talk about it. Yep. And she avoided the media, but she still does the occasional interview. As of a couple of years ago, she was the head librarian and deputy director of the collection of zoology and Munich,

where she met her husband, who is an expert on wasps. Fuck yeah. Did she, she had a head library? Yeah, it's a library of heads. Huh, full on. Yeah, the jungle will do weird things to her. You know, Futurama, they've just got all those heads of celebrities in like jars, it's like that.

Right, tracking that's what the future is going to be. Like, I hope so. Yeah, just keeps evolving in a, in a jar. Yep. Especially people from like the 90s, the 80s and 90s and today. It's funny how the people who are in jars are from such a brief period of time. Yeah, but that's just how it happens, I suppose. That's insane. She's still devoted to her parents' research station, Pangawana.

Wait, she's still alive. I don't know why that's surprising to me. Yeah, she's still alive and her and her husband visit at least a couple of times a year to Peru. She'll outlive us all. So she has to go on planes, which she amazingly can do. Apparently she gets quite nervous flying, as you can imagine. Yeah, imagine she's pretty picky with her carrier. Yeah, for sure. Probably doesn't fly a Libyan air. No. A few years ago, Pangawana became a nature reserve in Peru.

The incredible filmmaker, Werner Herzog, made a TV documentary in 1998 called Wings of Hope, which is named after the inscription on the monument to the victims in Peru. There's a monument there. And the wings of hope are, there's also a monument to her because she was able to survive. You can watch it on YouTube and it's really great.

He made the documentary because at the time of the crash he was making a film in Peru and he was due to fly on the plane that was canceled that I mentioned at the start of the episode because Juliana's flight was delayed. Wow. So he was basically getting on the next flight. And I've linked to the docker on the show notes. It's really good, it just goes for an hour.

In 2010, Juliana, racked by survivor's guilt, said this, I had nightmares for a long time, for years, and of course the grief about my mother's death, and that of the other people came back again and again. The thought, why was I the only survivor? It haunts me. It always will. Yeah. It would.

And you also feel a lot of pressure, I think, to like make something of your life. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. It's like something I was supposed to survive or something meant that I was the one who survived. Now I have to do something with that life. That's crazy.

That is amazing. And to think that other people survived for a bit and then didn't make it and she just kept going. That's incredible. I know. That is the end of the report, but she must be in our hall of fame of badass. Oh my God, she's amazing.

How incredible. I just would have sat there and cried. You'd need a fair bit of therapy though, wouldn't you? Yeah, actually, she said the best therapy she had was. So in this documentary that Werner Herzog made, they go back, he flies her to Peru and then they go back into the jungle and she finds bits of the plane, which is still there. It's just the jungles grown up around it.

And there's, they've lift up bits of the plane and which is still there. It's just the jungles grown up around it. And they've lift up bits of the plane and it's got the marking still along it like that. The branding is still on the airlines. So crazy. And she said that was probably the best therapy she ever did because she had to go back and relive it with her husband alongside her, sort of giving him moral support.

And yeah, that was, she sort of had to confront those demons. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Dave, that was an amazing report. That's fantastic. Thank you so much. Can we give him a little golfers round of applause?

And the suggested, top of the suggested. Connor Wilson, I personally had never heard of this story. No neither. So I just went through the hat and I was trying to find a varying one. So this was voted for by the patron people, I should say. And I just went through the hat and I was trying to find a varying one. This was voted for by the Patreon people I should say. And I'm glad. So basically I put three options in there and two of them were so neck and neck that

they kept overtaking each other. And at one, at some stage I just had to start writing a report. So I, this was in front and they kept overtaking each other. But I hope, hopefully, the people that voted for this or the people that voted for the other one, which we will get to one day, we're still satisfied with that. This week's Fact Quotal question. Oh, yes.

Coming in from one of our delightful Patreon supporters. Yes. So for those who don't know if you're on the Sydney Sharnberg level on Patreon, you get to each week we take a different suggestion from someone in that group with a fact, a quote, or a question. And this week, it's a question. And this week it's from one of our and greatest supporters, Mr. Richard Frederick Schubert III. Oh, the third. Oh, tray, the third. No, we got it.

Yeah, I mean, every little piece of that name is magnified. Like, I don't know why you wouldn't give that to your child. Yeah, because it's so good. What happens after the third? You don't hear of the fourth much? No, I mean only in royalty, really. Well, you will when... Oh, what a rich at Frederick Schubert.

Yeah, the fourth. Yeah, let us know. Are you planning to name one of your children after yourself? They also get to give themselves a title. Mm-hmm. In the past, we've had titles like The Unbestable Master and also The Most Average American and The Refreshments Liaison Officer amongst others. But this week, Richard Frederick

Schubert III, as if he'd even bother giving himself a title, but he has, he's got himself the caveman, which sounds like quite at the opposite end of the spectrum or what is. I love it. And the caveman, this week has asked us the question, what are your guys favorite books, novels, graphic novels, and why? That's a slash, slash, slash, so. Whatever you like, do you wanna hear his first before?

I got you guys, you have some inspiration. I said personally, I quite enjoy the Hellboy graphic novels. Absolutely love Mike McNoller's, the creator the Hellboy graphic novels. Absolutely love Mike McNuller's The Creator of Hellboys writing. His ability to combine elements of mythology, Cosmic Horror, and religion in a such a cool and deep story really draws me in. If you guys haven't read any of the Hellboy books, or just any of Mike McNuller's works, I highly recommend them. Thank you so much, Caveman.

Thank you. Thank you, Caveman for the suggestion. I highly recommend them. Thank you so much, caveman. Thank you. Thank you, caveman for the suggestion. I have heard that a bunch of times that Hellboy is a great graphic novel. This is gonna be embarrassing to some. Possibly surprising, possibly not. I've never read a graphic novel, Jess.

Are you asking me if I have? Yeah. I have because I studied literature at uni. So did I. Well, one of them was like a children's literature and there was a graphic novel in that. Right. I don't remember what it was called.

Oh, if you're talking picture books, sure. For a few of those. Spot goes to college or whatever. Oh, yeah. That's probably not a real one. No, that's a good stuff. Richard Scaries, as a kid whatever. Oh yeah. That's probably not a real one. No, that's a good stuff. Richard Scaries as a kid.

Oh yeah. Loved Richard Scaries. That one where he went around the world. Forget whatever that one was. I think the books, probably my favorite book that I've read this year is a book called How I Escape My Certain Fate by Stuart Lee, an English comedian, and a lot of people recommended him to me, like, oh, you must like Stuart Lee. I know him, but I don't, I'm not really familiar with him. I read this book and it was really great. He sort of, it was kind of like a little memoir,

but he, it also included the transcripts from three of his festival shows, annotated. So I talked about what I was just really fascinating books. I really, that's probably the one that I've loved most recently. I like Stuart Lee. I once when I was in the UK on a trip with my girlfriend took her along to see Stuart Lee and she hated it. Really? Because he's like a comedian's comedian. Like a lot of, I'm like, my friends would kill to be here and she was like, this guy's so bad. So funny. It's like, I enjoyed it.

Wow. That's interesting. And you're still together? Yeah, amazing. Have you, did you ever get any graphic novels? Are you a comic book kid? Yes, the Phantom. Oh, of course.

Obviously. Of course, the cheap, cheap event. The only graphic comic book kid? Yes, the Phantom. Oh, of course, obviously, of course, the cheap, cheap, the only graphic novel I ever owned was I used to like this band, co-heating Cambria. I would talk to you about that. I was right into them briefly. And I was also into them in high school. And basically, they're like a concept band. And they sing about, well, a concept. Yeah, they're like a high-concept emo band. Yeah, too hard to explain the concept. Because even I don't really understand it. And what they would do is they'd bring out comics,

went along with the albums, but they did about four different series of, they'd be like, nah, nah, those comics, that's no longer canon. This is the new one, buy this one. Nah, nah, nah. And one of them was, they did a graphic novel. And I looked at it, it was great. But then they stopped that and said, now we're going back to the comics, the graphic novel, that's no, no. So, and one of them was, they did a graphic novel. And I looked at it, it was great.

But then they stopped it and said, now we're going back to the comics, the graphic novel. That's not it anymore. Right. Yeah. But yeah, I've still got it somewhere at home. But that's really my only brush with the... What about novels in general?

Yeah, favorite book. I reckon if I went back and read it now, it wouldn't be as impressed with it. But a very influential book on me was when I was in year 10, about 16, my mom, I believe, got me a copy of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, the Hunter S. Thompson classic. And I read that multiple times cover to cover, and I found it very inspiring because I didn't realize that you could write like that. It's gonzo-style journalism. And all this crazy shit is happening, and he takes a lot of drugs and it's just

So so wild and I didn't realize that that's what a writer could do Yeah, and it inspired me and I was like I want to take lots of drugs. Yes. No, I want I want to cover the mint for 100 The motorcyclist no, I want to I want to be a writer is what I thought at the time But and I haven't gone on to be at a writer to speak But I think it had it pushed me towards creative stuff. So I still hold that novel dear. That's cool. Yeah, so I'm probably put that up there.

How about you, JP? Comic book wise, Archie comics. Oh, what is that? Sugar, sugar, is that them? Is that the Archie band? I think that was the first cartoon band of another one here. I think that is the Archiband. Yeah, I think so. But I never, I didn't really do much in terms of comics. The books that spring to mind are always books that I read as a teenager or into my early 20s. I think it's same as what you were saying there, David, that they're like books that probably influenced me or hit home for me at that time. Yeah, sure, sure. I came along with

a, you know, a developmental stage. Yeah, I think now I tend to let things wash over me a little bit more and books don't really hit me as much. But like the books that I, I think I read, looking for Ella Brandy, like a dozen times. And then she, Malina Marchetta, also wrote on the Jellico Road, which is amazing. Although I haven't reread it as an adult, like late 20s, I want to reread it because I remember just being blown away

because it was like there was two stories happening at the same time, and then it all ties together. And I was just like, oh, that is amazing. And the characters are sad. And they're like, they're not just perfect people. And it was sort of like the first time you could see.

It was an antagonist that I, not an antagonist, protagonist that I liked, but she had shit qualities. Like you could see things, you know, that like a real person. I was like, you kind of suck at some things, but I still, I'm still rooting for you. You know, that's kind of something. Yeah, cool, right? Yeah. Well, that's a complicated character. Yeah, it was. And that was cool. And then more recently, I've liked a few, like memoirs. I was reading when I was on Rocho a couple of years ago, I was reading Magda, Magda, Sabanski's autobiography, Reckoning. And a few times I'd be reading in the back of the car

and I just had to like put the book down and I was just staring out the window for a bit. Like it just kind of, I related to it a lot. And I was like, wow. You know that feeling, you're just like, I can't, I can't read this right now. I just had to stare out the window for a bit, to feel some things.

She's a great writer. So many memoirs are written by people who aren't writers, who have done amazing things in different fields, but they're not writers, so you're kind of like, okay, it's a bit like, and then this happened. Yeah. And then I did this, and then this happened. Then I want to grab me.

Yeah, but hers is like, whoa, she's a great writer. So yeah, that's my answer. I love it. I'm not rambled, but hers is like, whoa, she's a great writer. So yeah, that's my answer. I love it They're rambled but like we got there Did you like that caveman? That was for you He said he liked it

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You get shout out, switch for about to do now, and also a two bonus episodes that no one else here is every single month. So if you want to check that out, it really helps the show and we thank you for it. So Jess, what are we gonna do to thank these peeps? We're going to name the locations that they were trapped in but survived. Oh, okay. So like our geographic also,

would we say Peru or would we say the Amazon? Could be anything. I love it. Dave, just before we do, do you wanna apologize to someone who you butchered their name? I mean, we butcher people's names every week, so it's weird to apologize to a single one out. Well, I'm gonna do it because I felt so bad. So I recently received a tweet about two weeks ago, we thanked Amy Gibb. Turns out that I had a copy and paste of that name. I fucker, I thought so at the time. I know it's

so bad. Your name is Amy Gibb's and you are Dr. I fuck it correctly. I thought so at the time. I was like, this is not a gift. Your name is Amy Gibbs and you are Dr. Amy Gibbs and I apologize and I'd like to say, I think you can. Maybe that's what you put the down for, deeper doctor. Yes. Gibbed. Yes, please.

You've been gibbed. You've been gibbed. Then add that down there. She can't say gibs to Kenchi. Is that mean treated? Yeah. You walk out of the doctor's office. You've been gibbed.

Gibbed. Tell your friends. She goes, office, you've been gibbed. You've been gibbed. Yeah. Tell your friends. It goes, hi, I've been gibbed and that's Dr. Gibbs off TV commercial. Yeah. So I do. So from these, happy gibbed customers.

Do apologize. Got gibbed. Sorry, I'm not gibbed. I'd love to thank this week, David, Jesse, for me. Please. Please. From Philadelphia in the fair state of Pennsylvania, Penn State, go penguins. Andre.

And penguins chasing butterflies. Go, pans. Jason poxed just. So cute. Jason rings. Feel like it rings if they win. They get cups chasing the Stanley. Jason pox just. So cute. Jason rings. Feel like it rings if they win. They get cups.

Chasing the Stanley. No, they probably, I often give rings in American sports. I probably do get a ring for that. Yeah, they love it. I love a ring. It wouldn't be cool. I mean, it's something you can wear. Yeah.

On your fingers. As opposed to a medallion. Yeah, which goes in a cabinet. I think the rugby leagues definitely follows American sports more, but they've got rings here as well, but AFL it's all medallions. Medallions and cups.

I'd love to thank Mr. Andre Rarig. Oh, Andre, I should say Mr. but Andre, I say Andre Rarig from Philly, Delphia, born and raised. And yeah, survived, but it was trapped in, but survived a playground. Where he spent most of his days. Yeah, chilling out, Max and relaxing.

What were we talking like a slide situation? Yeah, no, they, they, they, there's a couple of guys. They closed the, the park and they locked the gate and he was stuck there overnight, but they got there's a couple of guys they closed the the park and they locked the gate And he was stuck there overnight, but they got out the next day. Wow I was harrowing. I'd love to do a report on that so far Yeah, I'd like you to do a report to Andre Rarig is Bonafide badass. He's candy you ran out on day four Uh, he went well and truly home by then

Just eating candy and he went and got more candy. Yeah, got day four. He was well and truly honed by that. Just eating candy. And he went and got more candy. Yeah, he got more candy. He was at the shop. The day he ran out, he was actually in a candy shop worked out real well. Yeah, it was very convenient, indeed. I'd also love to thank from Lancashire in Great Britain. Sorry for the World Cup loss.

Tasha! Ha graves! Oh, okay. You're doing like a real ring announcer. Sorry for the World Cup loss. Tasha, ha graves. I love it. It's, you're doing like a real ring announcers. Yeah, it's fun. In the red corner with the wheels of steel. Wheels of steel, okay. Just as waving me off there.

Tasha. I think she was lost in a Toyota dealership. Okay, for how long? For how long? 17 minutes. They went out to lunch, but it was a quick lunch, because they work harder Toyota. I love it. I have one of their cars.

Oh. Still going strong. Hell yeah. It is an old car. Drive it into the ground. I will. Yeah. Wow. And Tasha survived.

Harrowing. So brave. So, so brave. Couple of real bites. Yeah. I had a couple of heroes to thank. May I thank some people? Please do.

I would like to thank from Hawks Bay in New Zealand. Sorry. Amy Rainford. Oh. Hawks Bay in New Zealand. Sorry. Amy Rainford. Rainford. So what is, it's what they survived or what they escaped? Where they were trapped.

Where they were trapped. Nobody dies in this. Okay. Everyone survives. Amy Rainford. She was trapped in an icicle. I was a geogacier, yes. Great, she was frozen inside of it.

Wow, how long? Four centuries. Wow. And she thought out Austin Power's style. She was thought out Austin Power's style. She had to piss for about. She had to piss for nine minutes. See, so that was so funny.

She had a Swedish penis pump. That's not my That was so funny. Yeah, that's Swedish penis pump. That's not my bag, baby. Oh, some of it holds up. I swear. I'm glad you were thought out from several centuries ago and you've taken well to the podcast technology. Yeah, thank you, Amy.

And I would also like to thank from Maple Valley. Oh delicious Wow. What's WA Washington? Do we have this conversation every time? Yeah, we do. Maple Valley. Michael Galvin. Oh, what a grudge. Jesus. Do it. I've never heard such great names as the name we think at the end of the show. That's a classic American name isn't it? Michael Galvin. Yes. Please, Galvanate me to you. Sorry, a little keen there, Michael. Hey, back on.

Michael was stuck inside Mount Rushmore. Wow, inside the heads. Yeah. The head library. Side one of the mountains. That's the big head library. Like Richie Richstar? Yes.

Stuck in a mouth. Which was actually, people don't know that, but that was actually, that film was based on Dave's life. His childhood. Yes. He had a McDonald's experience. And we had a rollercoaster machine. A rollercoaster machine.

It made rollercoaster. Yeah. How do you think we got the fortune? Yeah, smart. He worked for it. Well, the people that maintained the machine worked for it. So we paid them very little. Michael was trapped for three days, actually.

Inside the heads. Inside the mouth, because he was injured. Which, which president's mouth was he in? But they, um... LBJ. LBJ? Oh he wasn't there. He's very small head. LBJ was the you know that link that Michael was trapped Dave if you'd let us finish LBJ all the way reported to the media that Michael had been trapped inside. George Jenkins. Meep George Jenkins.

George Jetson. The far left. Really? Stalin. That is far left. Anyway, continue. All right, thanks Michael. I would like to thank, well, it's my turn. I would like to thank from Shaker Heights. Whoa, that is a great name. Shaker Heights in Ohio. Oh, Ohio. Gzamas to you, Nicholas Gilbert. Nick Gilb.

I love that's a Shaker Heights. Shaker Heights. I mean, Shaker Heights so high, can we go there Dave? Can we go there Dave? Dave please. Can we go there Dave? Oh, I'm looking at where it is. It's close to Akron.

Ooh, yeah, baby. So that's a strong yes from me. Tire country. Fuck it. And let me tell you, just a little bit. The wheels still. From Gary Indiana, we're looking. Just a short five hour drive from Gary Indiana.

We can put that on the gold and mile trip. Hell yeah. That's another thing we should say. I think we're over 85% of the way to where American tour goal on Patreon. That's right. And every person we've so far thanked helping us get there. So thank you. Nicholas Gilbert from Shaker Heights, Ohio. Where was he trapped? That's right, and every person we've so far thanked, helping us get this, so thank you.

Nicholas Kielbitt, from Shaker Heights, Ohio. Matt, where was he trapped? He was trapped inside his own mind. Wow, for how long? For three and a half million seconds. Wow. I don't know why I put it in those terms, but I just wanted to hear Dave figure it out. It sounds like a lifetime. All right, let's do it

Three and a half this is good radio. Just would you get away with this some triple J? Have you ever had a cooler text in and say how long is three and a half million seconds? I've never had that I've never had a cooler texting ask that question now. Stick to maths, Math 4. Right, three and a half million, so you've got 60 seconds. How I'm Googling, I'm going against the clock here.

Oh, I Googled how Google? How Google? How Google? The hell log is, what did I say? Three. 40 days? Okay. Yeah, I what did I say three 40 days? Okay. Oh, yeah, I mean, that's a long time in your mind. Similar to Jesus in the desert. So, yeah, 40 days and 49.

Yeah, that's true. Was that no, was I? No, was I was more that was a much longer. That was two of each. Yeah. It's a whole different kettle of fish. Two of them. So he was stuck inside his own mind for 40 days.

40 days. But only 39 nights. You know when you just get trapped in your own head on stage? Story in my life. Yeah. I'm just two in my own head. I'm just two in my own head. Thanks so much.

I just got to feel it. Just, you know, be there. Be present. Be in there. And finally, I would like to thank all the way from LBJ. I would like to thank from Black Wall New South Wales, Chloe Hawkins. I love that name a lot. Me too. That is a rad name. Yes. That's a rock star. Good stuff, Chloe Hawkins. Yes, that's it. Yeah. I think she was trapped in a jukebox musical.

In Siberia? Yes, wow. Like the bad comeback song from that band that Red Salmons was in. Skyhooks, Skyhooks. Yes, absolutely. Chloe Hawkins, thank you so much for your support from Blackwall. What a place. Let me just see if Blackwall's near Sydney and whether you'll be coming to our show. While he's doing that, I'm going to sing a little bit of Duke Boxing Siberia,

which I loved as a kid, by the way, but I've been told since this is a bad song. Here we go. kid by the way, but I've been told since there's a bad song. Here we go. A du-bucks in sa-bir-ri-ya. A du-bucks in sa-bir-ri-ya. Well, let me just cut you off there, Matt, because Chloe Hawkins is only, if she left now, she could be at the Giant Dorf Theatre in one hour and 16 minutes. Whoa. Worth it? Hell yeah. Ah, yaaas.

Walkin' on drive-ins. Walking. I mean, driving. Oh, half a hell Hell yeah. Yeah. Walking on driving. Walking, I mean driving. Oh, half a hour long walking though. Nine hours, 42 minutes. What about public transport options? Can you put it into millions of seconds? Four hours, nine minutes public transport? Oh, that's not good, is it? That's shocking.

We'll pick you up on the way through. Yeah, it can't be that hard. Can you pick up with a plane? I think if we ask nicely. We'll be there in about six weeks. So, about three and a half million seconds. Can you plane pull? Oh, that's not far away, I reckon.

Yeah, I reckon. Yeah, I reckon. Zap me up. Remember the pick, good chasing a butterfly? Yeah. So cute. I'm going to pull it up and show you. Remember the bad good chasing of Butterfly? Yeah. So cute. I'm going to pull it up and show you.

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